I have trichotillomania and tricophagia (compulsive pulling and eating of hair). I only do it with thick hairs like beard or moustache and they don't really floss your teeth, just get stuck there and you have to floss to get them out.
I, too, have this problem. I think I'm somewhat fortunate of my poor hair genes in that I'm almost bald so I keep my hair really short. But for awhile it was a major problem. I find keeping my hair short also makes it a bit more difficult to pull out which causes me to go longer periods without pulling. I'm trying to grow a beard now without having the urge to pull those but beard hairs are coarse and more fun to pull. If you can call it fun.
I started to pluck but noticed I rubbed my nose a lot when they started growing back and it itches. Makes me look like I've just been for a line when I'm in the pub.
One day about a year ago, I was inspecting a zit on my nose when I noticed.
Nose hair is not pretty.
I didn't think I had any that poked out, but it turned out that I was wrong. It wasn't crazy or anything, but it made me feel unkempt and gross.
The main thing you need to do is to feel good about how you look.
Dress nicely. Keep yourself clean. Groom your hairs. Smell nice and stand up tall!
Threw a birthday party for a friend of mine. Anytime he talked to me... there were hairs that looked like octopus legs that came from the depths of his sinuses.
I hired a guy once because I could tell he grew MOUNDS of ear hair but that shit was neat and trim every time i saw him. He knew, and he trimmed it- Meticulously.
Jajoo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:28:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was a carpenter, so it was technically unrelated, but tangentially related. I've hired many many carpenters and the ones that dress sloppy work sloppy, every time. Sharp dressed, they work sharp too. They aren't the ones using dull blades and recking the finish of the wood.
One day I thought I had one of my dogs hairs sticking out of my ear after some rough playing. I go to pull it out and its attached. I have an almost inch long hair sticking out of my ear. Then I see that I have more. Since then I have been on a crusade to make sure all ear hairs are plucked.
DWillows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have zero ear hair. Though, i should probably buy some kind of nose hair trimmer or something. well, as long as it's not at the stage where it's poking out right?
heap42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nose hair trimmers also work well on getting those stray hairs that grow around your eyebrows. It helps me quickly keep the shape with out having to sit there and pluck. I'm a dude so I don't worry about them too much but I try to make sure they aren't too bushy or all over the place.
I've learned this as I've aged. It's like I hit 40, and my nose and ears shot out hair overnight. Now, I'm always worried I have a long nose hair.
LucianMp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an Indian I cannot stress on this enough.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also eyebrows. This goes for men too. Pluck that unibrow, clean up the rest. You don't have to get brows on fleek ๐๐ป, but some cleanup is good
Jokkerb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a 32 year old man of Irish/German descent and I'm starting to get black hairs growing on the outside of my nose around the tip and nostrils... Is that normal or am I going cro-mag? I already have a cro-mag hairy neckline on my manscape maintenance schedule, this is just another sign of my hairy ape-like doom.
I read that as "Trim your nose hair and eat that hair" and was very confused for about 10 seconds
scur827 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, I knew a college professor whose nose hair came out and curled up around the sides of his nostrils like a handlebar moustache. It's pretty much the only thing I remember about him, couldn't even tell you the class.
Awasawa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mlunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That and wearing a well kept pair of shoes, and a nice looking watch. My dad's good looking secretary told me girls loom at that for a first impression.
ngator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-bishpls- ยท 4708 points ยท Posted at 14:17:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let your spit dry out close to your lips and form a grainy white coating.
RockGotti ยท 2389 points ยท Posted at 16:30:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guy in my workplace is like that.. nice guy, but im always scared a big gloob of white, starchy, melted shortbread looking gunk is going to escape the chasms of his lip opening and embed itself in my face.
[deleted] ยท 4086 points ยท Posted at 18:19:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Make... Make out with him.
EDIT: WOW, thanks for the gold! As yellow as the crust on the inside of his lips!
pedoduck ยท 1546 points ยท Posted at 19:17:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually dry heaved.
cail123 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 22:14:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on the sub, a score will be hidden for an amount of time specified by the mods. This is to keep herd voting from happening, and allow for people to judge the comment's value for themselves.
tron2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
now kith
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A girl I was seeing earlier this year picked a guy with the mouth-crust over me. She left me for him. I know she kissed him and did a lot of other things with him.
Well, im a guy also so I cant comment too much on his attractiveness in respect of this thread title.. but his girlfriend is pretty stunning, so it cant be that big of a deal (to her)
I dont think it bothers him to be honest, and ive not heard anyone else in work bring it up so its not really a big deal. It doesnt stop me talking to him, I just get distracted a little incase I get a facial.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have this problem, it's due to the fact I dehydrate really easily.
I will drink litres of water a day and just piss it all out for whatever reason, been like this for years. My lips and mouth dry up super easily and cause this/ sometimes cracking of the lips.
I remember Cyrus Grissom having a line in Con Air about "white stuff that accumulates at the corner of your mouth when you are really thirsty".. so I dont think its a medical issue. Maybe he just needs a drink, all day.
no need its really not that big of a deal to be honest, if it were, the gossip mongers in this place would be having a blast with it. As it were, he's well liked and Ive not heard anyone else mention it, so Im happy to leave it be.
My 6th grade teacher had this problem. He often wiped it on students clothing and desks. It was pretty damn gross. Another funny thing about him was that he got caught kissing boys and got fired (catholic school) the funny thing is that he ran off and married a fella named Larry. His name is Chuck...
icanhe ยท 711 points ยท Posted at 19:02:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have this a little when I was younger. A lot of it is to do with being dehydrated. Dehydration means that your spit id thicker and your lips usually get grooves as they dry. From there, especially if you talk a lot, it just builds up in the corners. I actually drink water now, so this doesn't happen any more, even when I talk a million miles an hour.
That must be water weight from all the water you're drinking. An easy fix would be to drink less. Going until your spit becomes a bit thicker should do the trick.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i thwear to god it thoesn't happen anymore
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:08:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This happens to me, but I drink SO MUCH. I'm talking like 3L or more of liquid a day. Do I need to drink more? I don't get it. I'm always thirsty so I drink shitloads but I still get that gunky stuff and always need to check myself.
3L might not be enough if you are quite active and sweat a lot. I've drank nearly 4L in a couple hours at the gym before. Otherwise, 3L should not leave you dehydrated.
DiggerW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen a doctor? Any chance you may have diabetes? Or do you just do a ton of activity?
Same exact boat dude, past few years or so I've noticed my mouth dries out a lot, especially when I'm talking or whatever, and I'm always having to drink water.
Gonna see a doctor as soon as I can
damir33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, idk what it could be but it's very annoying.
DiggerW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's probably nothing, but never hurts to check! If anything, I'm sure they'll have some good insight.
Hmm I'm not sure. Honestly, my dehydration thing is mostly anecdotal, since it worked for myself and a couple of friends I also got into drinking more water. Do you have braces at all? I also think, unfortunately, that your lip shape might be able to influence you likelihood of it.
mcrbids ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also much more likely when you have diabetes (which causes dehydration when your blood sugars run high).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only person I've ever seen with this had diabetes.
When I worked in a deli as a teenager I was talking to people all day and I can confirm that talking to people makes this shit build up. I got that shit constantly.
I just didn't really drink much of anything. Half a glass of milk in the mornings, and then not even 500ml of water in the day, and this eventually tapered off to nothing in the day. Eventually, you just stop realising you're thirsty since dehydration is the default.
Same. First thing I do in the morning is wash my mouth and scrape that shit off. It's annoying and disgusting and makes me anxious about still having it once I wake up next to an eventual SO. Yuck...
It happens to me (and many other teens) who are on Accutane. It makes your lips drier than California during august so this kind of stuff is unavoidable. Also, perpetual chapped lips
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:16:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure everyone is mistaking this for dryed skin. The white stuff is dead skin that died from dehydration.
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:52:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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danzey12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:35:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how I have so much spit in my mouth all the damn time though, I was like, low singing along to some music in work and could hear myself fumbling over the words because of the damn lake of spit in my mouth.
Why doesn't it stop?
I didn't either until high school (close to ten years ago). I had a teacher named Mr. Fatheree and he had a penchant for yelling at us at all times, even if it was positive in nature. Usually it wasn't. He would have glob of white, nasty spittle between his lips as he yelled, and I was always waiting for that exclamation that we were "SAD!" or "EMBARRASSING!" that would be the straw that broke the camel's back and that glob blob would just fly on someone.
I take a couple of medications that give me constant dry mouth. In my full time office job I can manage, but my part time retail it can start to get really bad, really fast. I have a couple people that will give me a heads up, otherwise I just make a conscious decision to wipe my mouth every few minutes.
Basically, it sucks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a professor in college who at the end of a lecture would have full-on stalagmites and stalactites form into disgusting little pillars of spit on his fat, seemingly uncloseable lips. They haunt me, still.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:14:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How would you prevent this? By drinking lots of water?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wipe your mouth with a tissue
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:15:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, my father in law just CONSTANTLY has this, and I think it comes from his drinking problem. Good thing I never have to see him though, he's always taking my son out to do stuff in space and other dimensions.
Edit: I'm Jerry Smith and I looove sucking biiiig sweaty dick and licking disgusting, furry testicle sacks.
sebaz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:34:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh.
Name42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:39:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see now, thanks.
kindred7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude...
wiirenet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
totally thought rick just from reading the first line........
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:12:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice! Without the reference, that comment just starts normal and then goes completely insane. Which, actually might be better.
English IS my only language and I have no idea what this is referring to
Reid_bry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:51:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I fall asleep mouth opens and struggle with having a white tounge. I use a tounge scraper two times a day for about 2 weeks now and haven't noticed a difference. Is there anything I can do?
blammer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get hydrated I suppose? Keep a bottle of water close by and chug every hour.
Reid_bry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I drink two-three 32oz nalgenes a day. I'm legitimately confused about what I can do.
damir33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, idk what it is but it sucks.
blammer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd suggest something like getting a diagnosis using traditional chinese medicine but I don't know if you are open to that or if the TCM clinics in your area even have legit chinese doctors. It's basically an imbalance in your qi, generic answers will be that you sleep too late/liver is weak/etc.
Reid_bry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a minor and my parents.... Well are trump supporters so I don't think that's going to happen. Thank for the advice though.
droofe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking Bruce... it isn't like Bruce doesn't know any better, he is a professional speaker with multiple degrees from LSE, but god damn it Bruce wipe your mouth, take a drink, do anything but keep speaking with the white strings building up on your lips.
This drives me crazy I had a Spanish teacher like this in highschool. I couldn't stand to look at her because I had no idea what was going on and it scared me lol
I used to think "gleeking" was the coolest fucking thing, this kid I knew in like 4th grade could do it and I could never figure it out. I remember being so jealous of this talent... now it just randomly happens to me on dates and job interviews.
God I was on a date with a guy once and this happened and then he got really pushy about me giving him a kiss even though I really didn't want to but finally I did just to shut him up.
He also made me high-five him every time we had something in common. There was never a second date.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PopNTod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saw Hannibal Buress with this dilemma during his stand up last year. It was a small comedy club in Manhattan, so I got to see it up close. I'm assuming it was a good act, but I wasn't strong enough to remove focus from the frothy mess hiding on the sides of his lip as much as I wanted.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like we're setting the bar a little low here.
babybush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how do people not notice they have this?
Ttyller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This always happens to me. When I realized I've been walking around like this, I feel like a SHITBALL.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a restaurant and this happens to me frequently. I try drinking more water, and not licking my lips at all, but it still forms. Any way I can prevent it?
like my friend on day 3 of a cocaine bender...uggh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its comments like this that make life worth living.
BobbyDOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cant be more true.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My "bible in schools " teacher had this so badly that I don't remember a single thing she said because I was too busy getting ready to dodge any projectiles. That's probably why I am an athiest now.
... Doesn't that just make you not look mentally challenged? Is that really an attractive quality, 'not' having white scuzz on the mouth? Wouldn't an equally attractive quality be not having three rats gnawing on your lip? Or not having a six inch wide hole from your belly button through to your back? Or not having a horizontal buttcrack perhaps?
"So, how'd your date go .. female??
"Oh he was a real dream! No mouth scuzz which I find necessary for my men to not have, much like a tail or an extra chin off to the side. I find it attractive when my dates don't have extra things that are weird. Veeeery attractive... (Wink!)
Ugh, as someone who takes medication that causes drymouth/weird saliva issues, fuck. This has been happening to me and it's mortifying.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You tend to get that when you're dehydrated. So basically just stay hydrated and the bitches will be all over you!
dtnk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:26:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man!
[deleted] ยท 4416 points ยท Posted at 15:16:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
head up, shoulders back, and tighten your core when you're walking. if you want to look and feel more confident, change your posture, even if it means faking it (eventually you'll start to believe it).
learn to breathe correctly; a lot of people are shallow breathing fucks. breathe from your stomach not your chest and set aside a few minutes every day to take very deep breaths. this will do wonders for your stress levels. a weary heart is often times visible on your face.
drink more water, eat more vegetables, stretch, and exercise. If you don't want to go to the gym then get off reddit, put on music or a podcast, and go walk outside for at least 30 minutes every day. your body is meant to move, do it.
respect yourself and be much more gentle with yourself. people are finicky, one minute they like you, the next minute they don't. the only constant is yourself, so be more attractive for you.
Your last sentence stuck with me. I've been feeling really sorry for myself recently with a girl ignoring me one minute and then showing interest the next. Thanks for that.
She's not worth your trouble then. If she doesn't want to commit to you, don't commit to her.
Had the same thing happen early 2015. Finally gave up on her after a stressful period of my dad having a heart attack and open heart surgery, then losing my dog after a month of her being in the vet ICU.
Decided I don't have time for someone that's going to change her mind on a weekly basis. I have bigger things to worry about and life is too short to give someone attention they don't deserve.
Thanks man i needed to hear that too. Had a very similar situation after moving my parents to a new city and my one of them having a stroke, while I was trying to talk to some girl who was wishy-washy. Realized how trivial waiting for someone else to give you happiness is when you have so much more to deal with. Sure enough, everything comes easier now. Hope your pops is doing better! ๐ช
If you haven't showed full interest and are moving in between the zone of friends and flirting and nothing's happening you gotta break into it and just say I really like you will you go out with me sometime.
If she says no at least you know youve tried. Nothing worse then waiting and waiting and both of you getting tired of not making moves because you're afraid to break or disturb what you have with each other or how other people will see you (especially if you're in a small group where everyone knows eaach other).
Even worse, I've already made my intentions completely clear, and got a hard maybe. Like "oh, I'd love to go out with you sometime/someday,". That doesn't really make me too confident y'know? I dunno at least tell me a definite answer, it's the least you could do right? Its kinda hot/cold; I'll just stop contact, and shell send me a sweet good morning text a day later. Its like she's interested back, but were barely scratching the surface. When we hang out, I can talk to her, but that's another thing; we can't hang out since she's always working or 'busy'.
_AMuse_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:27:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I'm going through this too... Thankfully I've got bigger things on my mind so it's not effecting me too much. I think that's the best way to deal with it; don't focus your whole life around whether or not you'll get this date. Keep conversations light hearted and if she eventually pulls through, you should have a date.
That's a hard one though. Its good you made your intentions clear but that's the thing. You gotta show your interest but find a balance between your pride and wanting her.
If I were you and there were no awkward group dynamics (friend's sister/friend's ex/family friend) and you have absolutely nothing to lose then you could go straight up, set up a date to just talk or hang out and tell her you really have to tell her something. Then when you meet just really tell her that you're serious about the relationsihp. Say that you don't want to feel like you didn't try your best. Maybe you can find out why she won't say straight up "no" and why it's a "maybe some day".
Truth be told, maybe she likes having you around but doesn't wanna commit because she wants to have the freedom to not be held down by a relationship. Each situation is unique but the advice I'm giving you is basically so that you dont end up down the line regretting that you didn't "try hard enough".
Nothing worse than a girl going "well....you asked that one time so I didn't know that you were interested". Or some other craaazy reason like she saw you hanging out with someone and made assumptions or she heard from a friend that you were also interested in someone else.
Its surprising how very little misunderstanding can change everything forever. So best thing to do is to put it all on the table, let her know your intentions and don't be afraid for her to say no. If she says no then you can rest easy and move on if that's what you desire.
And that first few sentences is what I'm struggling with to be honest with ya. I think I've got the balance down, but every now and again some intrusive thought will make me think crap like "Am I weightlifting right now for me, or so I can try and get her,". And it's stupid. Too freaking stupid. But I'm trying to break that train of thought.
And that's some really good advice, and how I feel I should really go about talking to her from this point forward. I mean, its honest, and there's really no way I cant get a respectable answer from it. You hit the nail on the head; I've always been so afraid of trying too hard that I'd end up often not trying at all, so now I'm just scared of not trying enough.
Thank you for taking the time out to help me better my situation, I really appreciate it :) Sometimes you just gotta slap your dick on the table and see what happens I guess!
This is LITERALLY my EXACT situation. She likes me back as far as I could tell, but after asking her TWICE, once out and once what her hard maybe meant, she fucking told me that her hard maybe wasn't a rejection and then gave me a really nice smile. Then she said she was busy to go out with me over holiday break.
This was a month ago, and since that interaction she 1. met a random asian dude 2. was infatuated with him since she met him 3. has ignored me over break and said she was "busy" when she said she would hang out with me and a friend 4. went out with the asian kid christmas eve and christmas day and a few days after.
Last contact I tried to ever initiate with her was I think the day after Christmas cause tbh I was just gonna ask "Is he going out with you now?" and just tell her, "awesome for you, guess I got my answer :P" and leave it like that, but she didn't respond to my "Hey, how was your Christmas?" text so fuck her.
Basically, if she's giving you that maybe, you fucking text that girl right now and tell her, "Look, it's not cool for you to string me along. Either a yes or no.". I don't like maybes even more after my situation.
I think I am you. And I'm sorry to hear about that christmas; it sounds rough bro. But for real fuck that shit man its not fair for you to get toyed around like that. We should totally just forget about both of them and go out with each other loljk:)
Thanks for the advice; I'll get an actual answer the next time I talk to her!
Guys I'm unclear why any of you accept "Maybe" as an answer? It's a holding response. Basically saying "let me exercise my other romantic options and if they don't work we'll go out." Go out and find someone new. It's happened to me many times before. You are much better off with someone who,if they are busy, can at least tell you when they aren't.
A maybe isn't a static thing. It has a couple reasons. One, she's laying off the hard "no" for a while later, or she's trying to deny you nicely. Another is she legitimately wants to explore other options before settling for you, which is stupid in it's own right and really should just be a no for her. Another is that she likes you, but she's unsure if she actually does want a relationship cause they could be going through some personal problems.
Either way, a maybe is not a no and that's the exact reason people will accept it as an answer. I won't anymore cause the first time I did, this girl decided to lead me the fuck on and I ain't dealing with that anymore.
A static no? Maybe lol. Every which way you describe those maybes are derivative no's. What I derived from the description these were very premature stages of casual dating and a relationship shouldn't be on the docket anyways. If we're talking month 3+ and she's ducking messages, grow a metaphorical pair and leave it. Don't look at it for what it should be, look at it for what it is. First step of sorting this is communication and if you can't at least do that, it's done before it started.
I feel you. My girl dumped me for a Asian dude right before the Holiday season, saying that I wasn't there enough for her when he lives in another state. Ever since I see her status updates saying "I've never been so happy" and "He makes me smile" helplessly eat away at my core. But you have to keep moving. I've had people tell me that she left someone that genuinely cared for her to someone she's known very little of and rushed to. They say she will come back. I don't know whether to take her back even when she said she would never leave me for him and did 2 weeks later. I don't know if she will come back. But I do know this, and pay heed to my words.
Improve yourself. You are the only thing that you should truly care about in the end of the day. As selfish as it sounds you need the confidence. Maybe she will notice how great of a guy you are, adaptive to change and willing to.
So do what you have to do, be patient and if nothing works out, move on. I'm still waiting for the day she comes back to me. But I wont stop moving forward because of one person. Show her the best you can be and if she's blind to it, then she's missing out not you.
Don't build feeling for someone else that doesn't give half a damn as you do. I learned that, and I'll carry that on to you. I thought she cared, and I'm sure she did until she started talking to him. I respected her privacy and only told her to not let things get out of hand but they did, that's when I learned that even when she claims to care, she didn't, all she sought out was her blind happiness to someone who treats her like a trophy. But this isn't about me, I want to make sure you don't give into other people's emotions too much. But go out there and find someone that cares, it sucks to leave behind someone that you like. I had to be on and off with her until 2 years later she managed to say yes, after being best friends. Don't let your emotions seep into someone else because when they leave, they leave with them. It's best to leave her be and keep whatever feelings you have to yourself rather than devoting yourself to her only to get them crushed.
That's my tip of advice, I might make relationships seem dark, but its about you at the end. Don't let someone who won't stay in your life scar you.
hrmfll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:22 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I was just gonna ask 'Is he going out with you now?'"
Dude, don't be a masochist. You already knew the answer, what did you think you would gain from this?
When she gave you a soft rejection that was a small pain she inflicted on you. You then kept inflicting more pain on yourself by obsessing over who she was interested in, and trying to force her to tell you things that would make you feel bad.
If interacting with someone makes you feel bad stop doing it. Having a crush and flirting, even when it's going nowhere, should make you feel better about yourself, not worse.
Flirting and dating is always going to be filled with maybes, and no amount of demanding is going to change that. The best way to prevent being hurt by indecisive people is to build a strong sense of self that has nothing to do with their opinion. Don't obsess over why they do or don't like you. Don't judge yourself against the person they choose to date. None of that has anything to do with you.
If someone tells you they might date you at some future point in time you are still single and don't owe them anything. If attempting to woo them is enjoyable to you, keep it up. If it makes you feel like shit, stop perusing them and put your energy into something you enjoy.
Learn to hear 'maybe' as "you seem like a nice and date worthy person but I'm not currently interested." Remember that why they are not interested is none of your business and you'll only hurt yourself trying to find out why.
Most Definitley! No matter how much I want her, its not healthy to put my life on hold for some bullshit.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if she gives an enthusiastic "yes I'd love to" then never texts you back when you try to set something up? I just moved on because I've been too busy to really worry about it but that one always bugged me.
It really depends on the situation. That's really weird to be honest. Perhaps she lost her phone or something. Like if she's a friend/friend of a friend then you can set up a meeting. If she's tryna avoid you then she will find a way to not see you. If she's a random you met and never saw again then that's harder to stay connected with.
Like if she said "I'd love to" online (tinder/fb) then she probably really meant it, if she's a random and said "i'd love to" maybe she wasn't tryna turn u down and hurt your feelings if face to face. Depends on the situation.
Either way its awesome that you moved on. Hopefully she didn't lose her phone or something and really wanted to meet you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:50 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She was a coworker, we kinda talked/flirted a bit at work but we were never really close. I finally asked her out and got her number because I was promoted and transferred to another facility. She was pretty hot and interesting to talk to, we seemed to mesh pretty well, normally I would have given it another shot but I was in the middle of moving and starting a new job working 12 hour shifts so I figured it wasn't worth the hassle if she couldn't make the effort to text me back. I hope she didn't just break her phone or something, I'd feel pretty shitty if that was the case.
For the record, she was most likely only trying to be polite. If she didn't respond to messages about major events in your life, its because she wasn't interested in supporting you through them. Casual responses to major events are the best you can expect from someone who has already decided you're not a priority. Who knows, maybe she had her own shit to deal with that she didn't feel like dragging you into.
At the same time, she was leading me on. Saying she'd come over and hangout and whatnot, then never show up or just stop responding. Come to find out, she was seeing another guy and was trying to hide it while keeping me on the line.
It wasn't one of those polite "I'm not interested" type things. She would say she was headed over, never show up, then claim to have "fallen asleep" at like 6pm. She admitted to lying after I called her out.
Then she'd show up out of nowhere when something happened (dad's heart attack and dog dying) saying the same stuff, that she liked me and that she should come stay the night, then never follow through with plans. She finally started getting the one word response treatment from me, letting her know that my dad was okay and that I was fine after losing my dog. She got the hint finally.
I kinda need help with that last part. I understand the concept of not responding to people that don't respond to me. But yet I can't help but message them it's like an urge
I used to have that problem, it took forever to get over. The last straw was really the particular girl in my situation. Now I find it pretty easy to see when they don't care.
What it took for me was just a lot of forcing myself not to do it. Keeping myself occupied so I didn't think about it at all.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:29:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
self-pity is one of the most debilitating emotional states you can get yourself into; itโs a sure fire way to remain stuck in your current situation. donโt chase after people and donโt let yourself be in a place where your happiness is at the hands of another human being. itโs okay to let go of lovers that arenโt yours.
from my experience in life, when i really really want something, whether it be a career or relationship or money, and iโm coming from a place of lack believing that the having of whatever it is that i wanted would bring me happiness, the more difficult it's been to attain it. however, once i let go of needing that thing to be happy, then those things come much more easily.
But they're so awesome, and they'd be the one that got away, I am sure of it.
tm82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All your other punctuation seems good, now let go of the need to capitalize that first word of a sentence.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:53:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's really common, just so you're aware.
Idk if it's girls in general, or guys do this too. But I've definitely had more than one experience with a girl where they're all over you one day and act like they could give a shit less the next.
Some are just busy and only really give you attention when they think about you. Others are playing a game and very carefully thinking of every word they text/say to you.
The way you should react is the same for either case. DONT BE OFFENDED BY IT. Just talk to them how you normally would whether they're replying for the first time I'm a month or for the 40th time in an hour. Cuz the ones that aren't thinking about it will be caught off guard, like "wtf? I'm just talking to you when I can, why are you mad?" and the ones that are doing it intentionally will be turned off by your inability to keep calm.
Maybe I'm an idiot and don't know what I'm talking about because this is a conclusion I made after limited experience with these situations.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:25:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drop the fuck out of that broad dude. Games are 12 year olds. If she's going in and out of interest, you're a back up. Drop that shit and find someone where you'll be her #1. trust me.
Just treat her the same way she treats you: Enjoy the flirtation when she decides to come around but know that it isn't going anywhere. She'll just be that one girl you flirt with every now and then when she shows up, you'll expect nothing more and nothing less from her. She might go away for good because some people get their kicks from leading others on, and once it shows that you're not under her spell any longer she'll gravitate to other guys she's leading on. Regardless, flirting is a confidence booster and worth practicing for when it counts with the right girl.
One thing that's helped me is a bit of introspection and seeing that I am the man I want to be. Shit can go wrong, things can fail, but if you look in the mirror and are proud of what looks back you should hold on to it. If you see a difference (an internal one, not a shallow one) you can usually take steps to bring yourself to who you want to be.
Don't feel sorry for yourself. My friend in college when we were broke as fuck, failing education, failing with women, always kept an attitude of "bro, we're still the best." This wasn't public cockyness he would say it with just me and him and I knew it was to keep our heads high regardless. Present day were both doing great.
I bet if you are more confident with you and show that you'd like her attention but don't really give a shit if she is ignoring you, she'll stop ignoring you. In my experience people who do shit like that can't handle not having that little bit of pseudo power
Honeslty, whether you should break contact with this girl is probably dependent on how you handle it. I went through something similar a few times, but once I noticed it I simply changed my approach.
E.g., Maybe she wants to be flirty occasionally, I can do that, too. I'll just diversify my interests to make sure I have a couple people I'm talking to, and when she wants to flirt I'm all for it. Maybe it'll lead to something one day, but I'm cool just going with the flow and playing little games until then. If you aren't comfortable with this, then don't do it. If you can handle it and control your view and understanding of this back-and-forth, then it can be kinda fun. Either way, good luck :)
I'm actually going through the same thing right now. Hang in there man, if she can't make up her mind about you and makes you feel like that, she's not right for you.
She is who she is. If things happen, they happen. You're only accountable for you.
Frosma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally you should drop these girls. There's no guarantee she won't follow the same pattern during a relationship if you get there, and ruin it within days or weeks.
And they always seem to show interest when you finally get over them! Then the cycle begins again. You feel down in the dumps and it mixes with everything else you're unhappy about in life into one big mudslide.
I'm so glad I found these comments. Been kicking myself for being affected by something so trivial. But I guess that's part of being human. Reading this gives me more motivation to work on my dreams and goals. Best of luck to everyone!
I really cannot stand people who do that. How pathetic do you have to be to play with others' emotions? When someone does this to me I ignore them once and for all.
I feel you. I have a girl in my life that has a boyfriend, but is constantly sending me signals that she likes me, but she won't text me for some reason. I feel you when it comes to that haha.
Life is short, find someone who wants to be with you because they genuinely like you for you (and not because of who they think you are or who they want you to be or how you appear to be).
You're probably just REAALLY into her and experiencing the neuroticism that comes with that. It's a natural overreaction don't sweat it. If dating was easy then how would we weed out lesser genetics?
smthsmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:12 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a girl ignoring me one minute and then showing interest the next
it's called a shit test, bro
Ancel3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:50:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
head up, shoulders back, and tighten your core when you're walking. if you want to look and feel more confident, change your posture, even if it means faking it (eventually you'll start to believe it).
My Dad was a correctional officer of nearly ten years, his first day on the job he walked in like he owned the place and everybody treated him like he did.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:38:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put your shoulders back slightly to give yourself more breathing room, just subtly. Here's an exercise: push your stomach out when you breathe in, then push it in when you exhale, to give it some push. This should help you get used to using your diaphragm, don't overdo it when talking though. But sing a little note when you breathe out, you should feel a lot more air behind your note than usual. Cheers!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. Read half of it, and forgot all about it. Goin back to read other half.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:08:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The breath deep breath is really important. Especially, for anyone with anxiety. Keep your breathing in check when freaking out or anytime nervous. You'll notice you'll be breathing in a shallow fashion. Deepen them. Diaphragm should expand etc. We assume breathing is always done automatically and correctly but as with anything else, you can develop bad breathing habits. It really is a more significant thing that I didn't realize until having a few panic attacks around 20 years old. Very important.
Beautifully said. Especially that last bit. I have to remind myself of this all the time. People's opinions are fickle. Become the person you can respect and respect from others will follow.
gizakaga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always had it in my head to walk like a superhero wearing a cape. Keeping that kind of posture makes you look and feel a lot more confident
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have bags under by eyes so I'm basically fucked as a guy who always looks weary when I'm not. Unless I want to go full metro and wear makeup every day.
I tried for weeks to fix my posture by just trying to remember to straighten my back, shit never worked, just hurt my back and eventually I got sick of it and just let it rest again in the shitty posture that it's in
Dingo989 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do not put your shoulders back, this is bad for your posture by putting you body in a position that is not natural.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally just put on headphones, go outside, suck in your stomach flab, stand straight, shoulders back, start playing the soundtrack for Star Wars Episode V, and walk. Best thing ever.
Bryaxis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
head up, shoulders back, and tighten your core when you're walking. if you want to look and feel more confident, change your posture, even if it means faking it (eventually you'll start to believe it).
Don't do it in a way that looks forced, though. That'll just make you look insecure.
smthsmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:42 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
respect yourself and be much more gentle with yourself.
this is religious thinking: totally unprovable, and terrible advice.
Spoke to my soul. I recently realized that at the end of the day we only have ourselves. Good words brother!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even better, is to listen to a podcast on current events while walking. NPR has some great ones, that way you can exercise and have something to offer to conversations later on
learn to breathe correctly; a lot of people are shallow breathing fucks.
If you need help, just ask your asthmatic friends. When we're not dying, we get really fucking good at breathing because we relish the times when we can.
All these are so so true and really do wonders. I would also add just caring about your health is really effective. It bleeds into so many categories of your life.
"respect yourself and be much more gentle with yourself. people are finicky, one minute they like you, the next minute they don't. the only constant is yourself, so be more attractive for you."
please make a meme of yourself saying this and post it to r/GetMotivated
You should breathe using your diaphragm which feels like it is below your stomach. A lot of people seem to pick up a habit of breathing using their shoulders which results in shallow breathing. Slowing down your breathing by using your diaphragm is a great way to relax.
Scarf123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. I love this
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Head up, shoulders back, calm assertive energy. You are the pack leader.
head up, shoulders back, and tighten your core when you're walking
Adding to this - press those gluteus medius muscles in! This really helps keep your shoulders back and your sternum up, while giving your core the support it needs.
[deleted] ยท 2746 points ยท Posted at 14:25:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.
There's kind of a notion like "why don't my friends do anything cool", "why are they like this", "I wish my life was full of really awesome people". But the reality is that you can be the one to make it happen, to be who everyone would like to be with.
[deleted] ยท 644 points ยท Posted at 17:14:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow.... that's so true for me. I have a group of friends who I freakin love to death and would do anything for, but they just don't ever do anything fun or exciting. We'll occasionally go to my friends apartment and drink and talk about stuff and play video games and what not, but we barely do that. Other times we just chill and talk for a couple hours then go on our ways.Then I have these other friends who I'm not quite as close with, but am still pretty cool with, and they do everything. The other day they were telling me how awesome their summer was with the partying and slight dramas here and there with girls and they have another group of friends who they do everything together with. I hung out with them a few times in the summer, but that's only when they had parties. I really want to hang out with them and their other group of friends more, but I don't want to try to include myself because they are all so close and spent every waking moment of the summer together and I feel like I'd just be the outsider while they talk about all the fun they had together.
Meh just gotta start hanging out until you become part of the stories. I moved into a flat this time last year with a random group of people who are also super social and proactive on activities like the group you want to get into. They have also known each other for around ten years.
They have so many stories about each other! So many stories I am not a part of but apart from giving them the joy of telling someone new about their favourite memories, I find laughing with people helps create a bond and I also get to know a bit of their history.
It's been a year and there's still (& always will be) references to times pre-me but you can't look at it as exclusive, it's actually inclusive - they want you to hear the story and react.
I'm a way better person for living with these guys, they make me more confident, they've found out I'm kind of funny in a dry, sarcastic way and their enthusiasm is catching, I'm a happier person in general.
I used to live on my own and am pretty quiet so upon moving in I promised myself to try participate & add to conversations. Saying yes to offhand invites, coordinating errands like going to the mall together, asking what they actually do at work each day, just to get involved in their lives. Now it's assumed I'll be going on trips and I want to hear any new stories/contribute to the re-telling of new ones.
I also became best friends with someone who is hugely entertaining that I don't live with (more like your situation) by going to see her often when she was sick and by matching her enthusiasm about nights out, events etc.
So, I guess, in summary, just get involved, even it feels forced at first. Find the person you get on with most in the group and create expectation of contact through text or visits.
Familiarity breeds friendship. Not one great night out. It's why people keep the same friend groups from high school even when they dont really get on any more or have anything in common.
You only make new friends by letting them know you want to hang out and then hanging out to find out if you like each other.
Sorry for the long post, I just really want you to make the leap like I did - it's literally the best thing that's happened to me! They've improved me, and my life, so much.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 20:11:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I mean, the similarity to where you got to and where I want to be is almost congruent. Thank you so much for this. I just don't want them to think I'm annoying by trying to include myself. Did you ever feel that way?
I know what you mean, I tend to over think social situations and feel like I might be getting annoying but I have a suspicion it's mostly in my head ;)
With these guys I never felt annoying, but they are pretty welcoming - if your group is like mine in lifestyle possibly they are in this too?
More like they would just genuinely forget to invite me places while we were transitioning to real friends, those "oh you should have been there!" sort of statements which could have felt awkward but think it was just them taking time to mentally add me to plans. I would just say to sign me up for next time - which gives something to plan for with them.
It's a bit harder not living with them but maybe try instigating an activity and invite them based on something you know they would be into then just push it enthusiastically. Even if you only get a couple of them at least you can feel like you are "taking a turn" at leading the group and not just tagging onto their activities.
One of my flatmates loves cooking so I talk to him about that or randomly text during the day and ask if he's made something before and for advice - sets up for conversation later.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To this I say just try to be a funny, cool dude and they will naturally want to include you. People like having fun people around. Also, try to invite them along to simple things that you do like grabbing lunch or going grocery shopping, eventually they'll start inviting you to things in return. The biggest key to all of this though is to be nonchalant about it, as in don't make it seem like a big event to get a bite to eat or whatever. Just play it cool.
"you can't look at it as exclusive, it's actually inclusive"
That's the perfect way of putting it. I'm part of a close group like that, friends that I've had for years since grade school. It's often hard for those who join us to feel included but we honestly don't want or mean for it to be that way. If you take interest in us, we will return the favour.
I think a change of scene can really help change internal mindset. Mine was literally four blocks in city distance but living here gave me a much better view of confident, proactive people who do what makes them happy - dive, cook, run, shop, read, drink good gin - and took away the idea that these people are somehow just naturally better at life (they are just normal people, who knew? haha) and helped me to realise it's ok to do the same.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I won't lie it has been amazing luck. I moved here from a very anti social flat - basically lived alone as both flatmates chose to spend most nights at their boyfriends' places - so I made a conscious choice to find a social flat and really push myself to join in with them and not hide.
So happy it worked out
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's exactly that - a shared house. We all pay for separate rooms but share the kitchen and living areas. We just call them flats in New Zealand, probably due to our British origins :)
Semi related/semi interesting fact; if you say room mates in New Zealand people may assume you mean actually sharing a bedroom (different beds). I have a few Canadian and American friends and had to get used to that!
I've been wanting to do this but one thing that stops me from finding more enthusiastic friends is since I'm more on the "chill" (not necessarily quiet but I usually just throw in occasional comments into a group convo) side I always would think they would prefer to hangout with people more similar to them
How did you start to realize they actually enjoyed hanging out with you despite you initially being more reserved?
There was no real moment I knew, I just kept participating and being in the room to keep up the side comments, (it's mostly my conversation input too). I doubt I'll ever be as close as they are but that's because of shared history and also everyone is starting to get SOs which is diverting their time in another direction.
I suppose if I had to pick a moment type it would be when we laugh at something together and are both part of the joke, that feels like friendship :)
I've been thinking as I've written the above and I figure I've actually just stopped asking myself if they're my friends. I just assume it to be true now. Maybe it's a mindset thing. Don't get me wrong, I think we would all struggle to keep contact if we didn't live together.
I don't think that answers you very well sorry. I'm finding it a tough question!
I just re-read. I think when they started inviting me to things straightaway. And set up an expectation I would attend, e.g. "stickman_ninja will come, won't you?"
Thanks for really trying to put thought into my question!
Your first response kinda did answer in that you don't really question it after hanging out for a while. A better question I should ask is how did you reach that point in the first place? So you randomly found these housemates and then they just invited you to hangouts since you lived together?
Yes, I found them advertising the room on a website and they all were my age, working professionals and wanted someone who would be part of the flat.
Everyone is independent in the flat though, so if I had stayed in my room try would've just left me to it. There's a couple here that pretty much have their own lives and we see them occasionally. So early on i could see i could be like them or force myself to take part.
For example, I didn't used to watch tv much but it's actually a great way to trigger conversation which can branch into anything. Just by having these random conversations, I became more comfortable with them and a part of the group.
Most planning for events and trips take place in the kitchen or living room from an offhand remark so basically I initially just increased my chances of an invite by being present! Can't be forgotten if I'm in the room ha. The couple who keep to themselves are still generally only invited as an afterthought/effort to be polite and they have been here 6 months longer than me.
Ok so you were putting yourself out there as soon as you moved in. I was imagining that at first you mostly kept to yourself outside of polite chit chat then you started to warm up to the idea of being around them
in-kyoto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bravo! I was the complete opposite of you. Moved to different country 6 months back where I don't speak the local language, so it was always going to be a bit difficult for me. But I stuck to a "group", went out with them (I am not the most sociable person, more like a lost puppy in a crowd. Shy, in a cocoon. Can't initiate conversations cause I am not the small talk kinda person), and this has given me a new lease of life. It's almost always in the head. People don't know you, so you can be whatever you want to be. And I became closer to what I have always wanted to be. :)
Marriage in general is the start of the death of a friend group. Half of my old friend group got married and now we barely do anything together although I've been trying to prod us to do more things together, I don't know how long that will last.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
anderct ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:19:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
breath....now listen ....don't live your life through others ....be the change you wish to see in others.
There's kind of a notion like "why don't my friends do anything cool", "why are they like this", "I wish my life was full of really awesome people".
There is a fine line with this. Because of social media sometimes we compare ourselves to what people are doing.
The basic shit to do is go to a bar and post pictures of you and a few people having drinks. I'm way past the "Oh my god, you're life is amazing because you have drinks almost every weekend."
Fuck that!
I'm jealous when I see my friends hiking and traveling. So me and a buddy decided that we would start hiking and taking mini-roadtrips.
With 4 people, everyone pitch in $20 for gas. The driver (who ideally would be driving to a 4-5 hour away destination) has breakfast and/or lunch paid for.
The memories that you walk away with on this day-long excursion are price-less.
I don't have a problem with drinks, but if 80% of what you share is drinking, then that just makes me feel you're not an interesting person and need alcohol to compensate for your lack of intellect.
There is a fine line with this. Because of social media sometimes we compare ourselves to what people are doing.
I learned this with one of my best friends I used to party with. She's constantly snapchatting her nights out with new friends and her boyfriend, having a seemingly glamorous time, but when we do catch up she admits she got too drunk, fought with her boyfriend and can't even remember over what. She seems more miserable than happy most of the time, but refuses to give up the lifestyle.
I see this all the time. Main reason I don't have snapchat and avoid Instagram posts where someone is at a party.... that stupid:
"I'm gonna hold my phone over my head. Look who's here. Scream and yell everyone. Look at where I am. Look at all the people. Look at this table. We got bottle service. Kissy face"
Or the:
"I'm getting ready. Look how pretty I am. I'm playing Drake in the background. Playing with my hair"
People love the attention. They want you to see the best aspects of their life.
Chances are she won't post that fight she had or her stumbling around in heels. Or her getting kicked out cause she was too drunk. Her throwing up or her visiting Jack in the Box at 3AM.
I don't envy party-goers. Maybe when I was 21 but I've always hated going out to clubs. I'm a dieing breed.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't drink too much at parties due to past negative experiences, and along the way I've found myself a little bit, so at the parties I went to with my other friends that I mentioned above, I usually get along really well with everyone, and really there's nowhere id rather be in that moment than kicking back and having a nice conversation with someone who is just as sober as I am. So it's not the fact that I need alcohol to feel interesting and have fun, it's the fact that I really cherish the limited interactions I hold myself back from outside all of my friends, and I feel like my other friends who take me to parties allow me to get that experience more so than my main group of friends I have right now.
Well, you gotta just do it dude. My group of friends is like the one you're talking about and pretty much everyone we're around wants to be a part of it at some point, so we let them!!! You don't get a group of awesome people by excluding people. The more the merrier is our creed. The longer you wait the less memories you have to share. You can even start your own! Make friends with sociable, open minded/accepting people and it is pretty easy to get things rolling
Tutorem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just moved from one part of Denmark to another, i knew nobody near where i moved to. My old friends and i are all really close and have known each other for ages, but a lot of them are not that fun at parties, at least not all the time. At my new school i got into a pretty grouped up class, they rarely do stuff on the weekends and when they do it's in smaller groups. Luckily i met some people in my maths and physics classes (Yea, i know, not the most party type people) and they are great fun hanging out with and almost always up for hitting up the city on the weekends. I feel like i got pretty lucky that they were so open and welcoming, they'd invite me to their stuff very soon after i'd initially met them, but what really got me a lot closer with them was that i started hosting pre-parties/drinking nights, and i'd just invite the people i knew there (5 or so people) and tell them that they could bring friends if they wanted. Now it's about 6 months after i met them and the group of closer friends i have at my new school has grown a ton, and i have a crew of people who are always down to party or just chill and play some videogames.
As an introvert, I really enjoy sitting around and playing video games or watching movies with friends. The trick is to have a balance of people in your life to meet your needs. You won't get everything you're looking for from one person, or one group. What might be fun and exciting for you may very well be draining to them and vice-versa. Granted it's easier said than done, it's all about balance and compromise.
Dude, go talk to them! Sometimes it's good for a group to have a breath of fresh air! You might not know it, but you could be the one that holds everything together.
I feel like from the outside these sort of people seem like they do so much awesome stuff constantly, but if you're actually there a lot they don't do as much as you think. Still more than your other friends, but when you get the after-stories it sounds like it's so consistently awesome that they never just sit around and talk like your friends.
Sort of like the Facebook effect where you just get the highlights and none of the bland stuff that makes up the majority of the time. Not that they aren't doing more than your main friend group, but it just seems exaggerated until you're a part of it.
No one else said this in the other replies that I noticed.
Invite their group to things. Take the initiative in joining their friend group. You don't have to intrude on their stuff though, bring them into your stuff.
If they have a party or invite you to something cool have them all over for dinner or a barbecue or something as a thank you. Gets you in and makes them feel good at the same time.
Or even better invite the cool friends to a potluck at your house and make sure your lame friends are there as well. Ideally they'll socialize and you'll blend your friend groups but worst case your lame friends will realize they need to step their game up. And potlucks are fun.
It's not about what they can do for you, it's about what you can do for them. If you want to be invited to do fun stuff, then start by inviting them to do cool stuff. There are a lot of people out there that will say things like "we should totally hang out" every time we run into each other, then I never hear from them unless I initiate. Conversely, being friends with people who will contact out of the blue to invite you to something fun is the best. It's taken me years to build up a solid group of great friends and while there's always room for someone new, I'm going to put my energy towards the people who are also investing in the friendship.
but they just don't ever do anything fun or exciting.
That was me in high school, until I started to BE the guy who came up with plans and would suggest stuff a couple weekends out and then plan it and execute.
I really want to hang out with them and their other group of friends more
So start suggesting fun trips. Weekend camping trips, shooting range trips, driving range trips, movie night, drunken pie night, poker night, etc...
"Anyone can be your friend. You just have to hang around them long enough."
Will McKenzie, from Inbetweeners.
So goddamn true. Had an acquaintance with whom I shared a great number of friends. Never cared much for him, mostly because of a minor, perceived slight suffered some years earlier.
At some point, he began inviting me over to hang out. After declining a couple of times, he started inviting himself over to mine. We became good buddies and roomed together a few years later.
Stee19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, this is me right now, word for word. Love my old homies to death but they aren't as outgoing, which sucks. Met a new group (little bro and his friends) this past year and have been having a blast.
c_dawg7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a Yes man. Never turn down an invitation to go out unless there's a good reason for it. Invite those friends out for a drink (or just a couple of them, chances are the rest will be there too).
Only way to not be the outsider is to stay in contact with them and include yourself (at first). They'll come around and realize you're a cool person and get you in on the fun times.
If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.
Been staring at this spoon for hours, OP. This shit aint working.
slrarp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no spoon.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:48:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you bring up ideas of fun things to do, even as small as bowling or hiking or anything like that and they all refuse and just sit in the basement playing halo.
Are you boring? Maybe find some new hobbies that you find more interesting and others will too.
DWillows ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, i acknowledge that problem, but the problem lies in what i could do to change that. What would be something that both my friends and I would like, AND is cheap, AND is relatively near us? usually the answer is not much.
ginballs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard trying to be the hero of your story all the time though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to be that weird character in sitcoms everyone likes. Turns out that in real life that guy is annoying and now I don't know if I can stop.
smthsmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:54 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the reality is that you can be the one to make it happen, to be who everyone would like to be with.
but the reality is this is an overly optimistic generalization meant to make you feel better about yourself and get internet points.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:57 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Conversely, when I entered college I decided I wanted to be as successful as possible so I tried to locate and make friends with as many successful freshman as I could. It ended up working out well and they've all helped me a lot. I'm not saying this works for everyone but I like to surround myself with successful people to motivate myself.
That seems like pseudo-profound bullshit (that's the technical term). I don't think there's really any actual advice in there, just some motivational sounding nonsense.
The only constant in ones life is their own perception. One has the power to see everything how they wish to. Once one realize that a lot of doors open up for them.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"To be someone everyone wants to be with". Got it. Step one- become a woman that's really hot and then everyone will want to be with me.
SpongHits ยท 3492 points ยท Posted at 15:18:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If unable to sudo due to lack of root wife permission, reboot wife and insert live disk to override. Sometimes (approximately 25% of the time) the front disk or usb entry is bugged/corrupted; in this case use rear entry. Enjoy sandwich.
Also, wiping memory will be helpful to avoid marital prosecution (this is because the wife package is known to be buggy and frequently exhibits memory corruption and logic errors), this package is available as:
sudo apt-get install Cosby. The --force parameter has been found to be useful with this package.
Note that although the standard output of wife has been redirected, it's still quite chatty and verbose, so I normally pair it with a system-wide mute command to prevent it from outputting. This may or may not be necessary, depending on your own hardware, some have found that they can tune out the noise without this step.
Final note, for those without a package manager that can install wife, this is usually due to missing dependencies. Typical missing libraries include those related to job, car, hygiene, money, and/or the incompatible library libnmomsbasement. Install missing dependencies and compile from source, that may take a few years, depending on your hardware.
Note that some of this code may not be legal in your jurisdiction, if not, just deny you did it with:wget http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrZDMlnnjVQmirror
All code in this post is licensed with the following license.
wolfenx3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 20:57:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HeyFlo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:09:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can always tell the latter group. Nodding through your conversation, and then they just machine gun through every problem they have and you have to nod along as if it's the most important thing in your life.
CJ_Guns ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:17:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I treat conversations like a bunch of musicians playing together. Everyone wants a solo. Keep a mark and listen to what's being said, and if someone's interjection gets muddled, wait for a quieter moment and instead of talking yourself say "Hey X, what were you saying?"
See X's face brighten up.
Robotkio ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:25:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's an important one, too!
If you, say, cut someone off because you're super excited about saying something; I've seen it do wonders to acknowledge what you cut off and guide the conversation back to that person. Doing so helps to show that you were just really excited about the thing you just thought of rather than showing that you were just ignoring what the other person had to say.
And if a loud talker starts talking over someone telling a story who is softly spoken, I like to make eye contact with the quiet guy and really engage with his story so he doesn't get embarrassed and stop talking.
I've grown to become so disinterested in what people are saying that I'm having trouble focusing on things I actually care about. If I don't take an active part in the conversation I will find my mind wandering elsewhere.
No shit. It's crazy how many people I encounter that are clearly just waiting for me to STFU so they can then commence to flapping their dick hole.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If you do this, give people a fair chance and also have a nice tone, I noticed you can avoid a lot of internet arguments. It's very easy to not fully listen to people yet think you are listening.
Jesus Christ on a cracker..I was just thinking about this as I had to deal with a wonderful guest for the weekend. I still live with my ex (we own a house together so we are just roommates at this point) and her younger brother just got kicked out of where he was living. He was planning to stay with us so he could get himself straitened out (get a job, get his shit together, ect). I tried to give him good advice, but literally would just change the subject to whatever was on his fucking mind for the second. I then told him this, he doesn't listen to what anyone is saying, he just uses the time when people talk to think about what to say next. One of the things I told him was that he can't fight with my ex and yell at her. If he wants to argue, do it civilized. Off course he gets into it with my ex and she promptly kicks his ass out of the house.
He went from potentiality living there long term to being there 2 nights.
Robotkio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one's pretty important and something I still work on.
I've been guilty of "just waiting for my turn to speak" and not really responding to the other persons points or topic. It's a good way to kill conversation. After I became more aware of what I was doing it took some effort to set aside the really interesting thing I wanted to say and wait until the current topic was ending to bring it up rather than bringing it up mid conversation.
Likewise I've been in conversations where the other person wasn't really responding to things I said and it's a rather big turn off. It can feel a little like the other person is saying, "I don't care about you, I just want an audience."
This is waaaay bigger than people would ever expect. It's one of the largest keys to Acting. Many actors are excited to say their lines, they forget why they need to say them, because they're supposed to be connected to the other person in front of them.
I work with a girl who is a good friend but she really likes to talk, and many times instead of listening she'll keep talking and you can't get a word out. I just find it funny now because she doesn't do it on purpose.
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So much this.
You have no idea how angry i get when people don't brush their teeth.
I absolutely LOVE it when people take the time to listen to what I say. Honestly, I don't get why people wouldn't want to spread good vibes with something as simple as listening
Ricobasc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate when people don't listen like you tell a story and all they want to say to you is "Shane you interrupted, I was telling you about my mom just passing away and you're trying to tell me about this post you saw on reddit. You're rude." Like who just interrupts me like that? Yeah I get that you don't like some of the stuff on reddit but you don't have to be a bitch about it.
Came here to say this. Listening (and retaining what you can) is really, really appealing to people. And I'm not just talking about first dates and your grandma. Your boss, your friends, strangers even. You will make a much bigger impression as a listener than someone who is pretending to listen just long enough to butt in and explain how the current discussion affects you.
allholy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try so hard to do this, but I struggle a lot. I've tried many different meds and nothing is working. Does anyone have a LPT to help?
I never noticed how little I actually do this until I recently tried to do it more. Couldn't agree more.
biscaya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad this is the first reply. I would add, act like you are interested in what other people are saying and ask a lot of questions. Smile more, and be thankful for what you have. That kind of stuff goes way further than (flashy anything you can buy).
This one is actually kinda hard for me because of my terrible ADHD. It's not because I'm disinterested in what you're saying; I'll just zone out without even realizing it, even when someone is talking directly to me.
It's pretty crazy and once I realize I've zoned out I kick myself over it. Doesn't happen all the time though, only during long conversations. Most of the time I'll apologize, tell them that I zoned out, and ask them to repeat what they said.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And summarize what they've said so they know you've listened. Bitches love that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to try too hard to listen to what people are saying. I used to wish that I didn't give a shit enough not to.
RiD_JuaN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's mind blowing. My mother has the talent to listen deeply to people, you wouldn't believe the life experiences people tell her after like 5 minutes of speaking.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is attractive, it let's them know that you're interested in what they're saying. That makes them feel comfortable, important it allows you to become more personal with them with out having to do much. Typically when I'm on a date I ask a few questions to get them talking about themselves. I'll reinforce what they've said previously to let them know I'm listening. If they're talking and I'm not completely dominating the conversation this gets them thinking about themselves and what they're going to say and kind of puts them on the spot and takes all of the pressure off of you. Now that they're on the spot, those words they're saying feel more important and it feels great to know someone's listening to everything you just said. During that whole time you basically get a free pass; with little said about yourself, they haven't judged you on something you've said and you're not on the defensive in any way. They feel good about themselves for getting to freely say what they want and feel even better that you cherished every word they said. Now you've made them feel important. In my experience most people just want to say what's on their mind and truly just want someone to listen.
I feel like this explanation falls flat, as Obi-Wan is intended to be the good parts of the Jedi. Yoda is blinded by mysticism and Palpatine's influence, Mace Windu is dogmatic, and everyone else is a bunch of worthless followers.
In contrast, Obi-Wan is out there fighting, uncovering the conspiracy, and trying against all opposing forces to do the right thing. If everyone else is a bunch of hypocrites, Obi-Wan is the only non-hypocrite among them.
Yeah, I feel like Obi is the spiritual ancestor of balance in the Force that Luke momentarily achieved. The Jedi were heavily misguided and perverted the Force as much as the Sith did, just in a different and more subtle way. Obi Wan is the most progressive Jedi that was still a Jedi and I think his teachings passed down to Anakin and eventually Luke. It was just that Luke was stronger than Anakin and managed to resist the dark side enough to not succumb to it but rather accept all aspects of the Force.
It's a shame the prequels are overshadowed by excessive CGI and poorly written dialogue. The story overall is pretty good.
Someone actually explained it to me in a plausible manner. Something about the context of the situation and the involvement of what else was said before and after that. I cant remember but maybe someone will come along soon.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:23:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not at all plausible.
ptrst ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:35:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a big Star Wars fan, and I drive my husband (who is) crazy with that. I'm not sure if the Jedi come across as as completely ridiculous and wrong to people who are paying closer attention to the movies/actually give a fuck, but as far as I'm concerned I'm not convinced they're the good guys.
A lot of the video games, especially KOTOR are involved with this. I mean, the Jedi order basically kidnaps infants that are force sensitive to brainwash them into a religious order where the only people that have power over them is the Senate, who actually can only say "yeah, we would prefer you not to do x or y," and the Jedi can say "we are going to anyway." The Jedi don't see this as bad or anything either.
I think the more one looks into it, the more one realizes that "light and dark side" does not mean "good and evil side." Sure, the Sith can be pretty evil, but the Jedi are much more subtle with their manipulation and flaws.
sure, the Sith can be pretty evil, but the Jedi are much more subtle with their manipulation and flaws.
I don't think this is fair to the Jedi. They've always been an extra government organization and for the most part benevolent. They only step in when requested by the Senate and most of their lofty position comes from savings the republic's ass time and time again. If they wanted to control or manipulate the Senate they could just walk in and do it. Or "suggest" something to enough senators to get it passed. The Master Jedi understand the power they wield and still don't step in and try to manipulate anyone when they see the Chancellor holding his emergency powers. Once they know he's a Sith they pursue him but they are using force not THE Force.
It'd be way more accurate to compare the Jedi to Communism and the sith to capitalism
Inherently the Jedi order is supposed to be good. And if they followed their ideals and didn't add in more crap as they went/misunderstand rules (from control emotions to no emotions; from seeking willing force users to taking Innocents for "the good of the verse" etc) then they would be good. But what keeps happening is a slow decline into decadence and vigilantism.
Comm equivalent: for the proletariat turns into "we know best so we will just keep it"
The sith on the other hand are supposed to be inherently evil. They are uncontrolled and volatile. Sometimes completely ruthlessly practical and other times harmlessly indifferent or irrelevant. But they keep on getting pretty good results (galactic peace, multiple super weapons that are able to enforce the peace, they don't kidnap children quote as frequently) although their methods are usually despicable (mass murder).
Capital equivalent: spread of freedom through propping up dictatorships and getting into some really really questionable situations. (I'm sure someone is gonna pick on this but I didn't feel like coming up with a better example).
Drihzer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:32:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really think it is fair. When the grey wanted to break off and do their own thing, the jedi took them prisoner and we're going to execute them. All because they believed the jedi were wrong.
The jedi don't need to take over the senate. They only need to keep the status quo. Which they do by keeping the Senate afloat for centuries, and in return the Senate allows the jedi to collect force sensatives and train them to think with the jedi mindhive. Im sure the senate also supplies them with everything they need in return for the galaxies best mercenary group.
Quite frankly, at least you know the sith are dangerous and to keep away. The jedi are treated like heroes for killing off anyone who opposes their religion. The grey are about as close as you can get to good guys when it comes to trained force users.
I really think it is fair. When the grey wanted to break off and do their own thing, the jedi took them prisoner and we're going to execute them. All because they believed the jedi were wrong.
The Grey is such a blanket term though. You have all sorts of odds and ends in there. Mystics, witches, the Voss, all sorts of weird side plots. Again I don't think the Jedi are the end all be all good but the grey might have secrets of the order they could start telling people. Or they might be zealots or anything. Or the Jedi might have a delusional leader who has lost his way, order the entire order has lost its way. And sometimes you need that so whatever lost Jedi can become the next sith/be corrupted by the sith. Is it kind of annoying that the narrative is so circular? I can see why people would feel that way but that's literally the nature of the force. At the end of the day I'd rather have Jedi fight each other than mass murder the Senate like a Sith would if they had a massive temple on the government planet.
The jedi don't need to take over the senate. They only need to keep the status quo.
And this allows the corruption to become rampant. But the status quo wasn't really bad. I mean it started out pretty great. Any conflicts were small and localized and the galaxy didn't even need a large standing army. Of course things soured over time like they typically do with 100's of years and quadrillions of dollars floating around. But I don't think you can directly blame the Jedi for the overall decay of galactic politics. What would you have them do? Kill or imprison "evil" senators? Use force control to direct senators in the "right" direction? I would be way rather have superheroes (BC that's pretty much what jedi are) play a passive role in politics than an active one. They aren't all knowing and they can control their enemies. That's a recipe for disaster.
Quite frankly, at least you know the sith are dangerous and to keep away. The jedi are treated like heroes for killing off anyone who opposes their religion. The grey are about as close as you can get to good guys when it comes to trained force users.
Idk man I would fear anyone who can just control my mind and cut through the walls of my house. Anyone with half a brain would stay far far away from Jedi/sith if they could. I mean most of the galaxy doesn't even interact with the Jedi on even an occasional basis. The orders are really either only involved in high level politics or isolated in their backwater temples and stuff. The average person in the galaxy either doesn't believe in the force or thinks of the Jedi and sith as a fairytale. I mean the Catholic church was endorsed by multiple governments but you didn't want to just hang around for the Spanish Inquisition. Anyone with makes up less than a percentage point of the galaxy but literally wins space wars at will is someone I'm going to spend a lot of time avoiding.
I think one of the overarching themes in the movies is how outdated and corrupt the Jedi Order became. Anakin destroying the Jedi Order was actually an important part of restoring balance to the Force, because the Jedi weren't the balance. They were a perversion of order and control over it. I like that no one was really a good guy in Star Wars. Everyone had their faults, and it was Anakin and eventually Luke's acceptance and embracing of this ideal that led to the destruction of both extremes in the Jedi and the Sith.
Although Anakin may have gone about it in a slightly... maladaptive way.
She's untrained but she's stronger than she knows.
teamhoun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From StackExchange:
That scene was actually there to express how Obi-wan was a hypocrite.
When Palpatine had told Yoda that his arrogance had blinded him, this was true, and was the reason why Yoda afterward had been struck by a concentrated blast of Force Lightning.
This shows how the Jedi and Sith in some ways had become very similar, without the Jedi Masters taking notice.
It is paralleled, when Obi-wan, telling Anakin "only a Sith deals in absolutes" reveals himself as a hypocrite, likely unknowingly.
Again, another subtle theme packed into the story.
emdeema ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it meant eradicating the dark side of the force. Anakin fulfilled the prophecy by killing the last of the sith (himself and Palpatine).
Doesn't really fit the typical definition of "balance," but it's what I like to believe.
they never explained it. it's supposed to be so mysterious that even the jedi kept misreading it. they never said where it came from, either, though that old guy in Clone Wars season 3, ep 15-17 knew about it too, somehow. A lot of people said it meant "murdering all the jedi in Episode 3," but that's people trying to justify palpatine and anakin, which is really weird. If you follow that line of thinking, then it's really about Vader killing the Emperor in the end of Return of the Jedi.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The balance in the force was never meant to be equal amount of Jedi and Sith. It meant that there were no dark side users at all since they bring unbalance.
But I don't know if that have been ret conned in the animated series or everybody just went full retard and forgot ep6.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah thats the whole point of the council I guess, to maintain a balance in the force, shame that they completely suck dick at it in the prequels.
when did they establish that? the whole thing comes from the "prophecy" and we still don't really know what it's about. They do mention it as a major plot point in one of the story arcs in the animated series, though
In the OT it was that Vader brought balance by killing the last two Sith. Only a Jedi remained. Balance achieved.
In the PT (prequel trilogy) the prophecy wasn't really touched on, just mentioned. Anakin killing all those Jedi wasn't meant to do anything with the balance. It was his fall.
For me it all made sense since the beginning, but I'm extremely confused why people treat the force as a scale.
Switche ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:21:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Deals" is the key word. It's regarding ultimatums, not simply that only Sith can say anything in absolute terms.
But do you see the apple or do you just blindly ate it?
LoppyQ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:56:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who am i to waste a perfectly good mold covered apple. heeuurrg.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets find out!
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tootsie pops are 3-hit passives? Do they also dash, knock you up, and provide cooldown resets?
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends. You could probably enchant a tootsie pop for special skills.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need a black soul gem for that.
Xavanux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a 3 auto attack spell so once you auto attack 3 times you do true damage thus getting to the center of the tootsie pop.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tahm Kench ate Vayne, this is what happened.
RAA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To actually answer your question, there are a sunset of people that find value in appearing low effort. Blindly hating on something is easy because it takes no risk to say you dislike something, while saying you actively like something is putting your tastes on display for others to assess. For some, that can be scary.
thunnus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you see some appeal in [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
lbeefus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The appeal is that, at first glance, it makes you look like someone who doesn't blindly like things. It's only at the second glance that it becomes obvious you're still blind.
I can see the appeal in blindly hating things. I mean, it makes you feel superior for thinking something is beneath you. I get that. I don't blindly hate blatantly hating things, but I still do hate it, even though I see the appeal in it.
Haha my partner does this. He has a tendency to rant extensively about things he has just encountered without giving them a chance - but he really doesn't have issues with these things so much as he just loves to rant for ranting's sake :P.
Sedu ยท 962 points ยท Posted at 18:13:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely agreed. "That's not my thing" is a phrase that will come across much better than "I hate that." So you're going out with someone who likes Twilight? Well guess what. We all have guilty pleasures. Maybe that's just theirs.
abqkat ยท 1585 points ยท Posted at 20:50:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And, especially in casual settings, just let people have 'their thing.' Lady you're talking with at a party likes astrology? This is not the time to prove what a genius you are and how 'astrology is bogus!' Just let her rave about it. Ask a question or two. Let her have it, it clearly serves a purpose for her. You can mock her in your head if you must- such a Capricorn approach!- but the height of social grace is to make others feel welcome and included. Don't be a dick to people that differ.
Especially since many people are aware that some of their hobbies are a little silly. My best friend always reads her horoscope - she knows it's BS - but it entertains her.
If you get high-and-mighty on the topic upfront, you don't really have time to learn if the person is awesome. You likely just turned them off completely.
Read an account of a well known socialite (can't remember name) who was having dinner with a younger woman who was not accustomed to eating in fancy restaurants. When finger bowls were placed on the table, the younger women drank hers and ate the flower floating in it. The socialite didn't embarrass the younger woman by pointing out her error. Instead, she drank her own finger bowl and ate her flower, too. That's class.
That being said, if the other person is going overboard, at some point it is totally ok to be like "That's cool. This isn't really my thing, though, so I feel like I can't talk about it well. What other interests do you have?" Some people are completely unaware that their hobbies do not appeal to everyone, and then it gets awkward at times.
jpsi314 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:35:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather will talk at length and without break to any random person he meets about high school wrestling in eastern Pennsylvania and actually seems to think people all know who these kids are.
Oh, yeah cool bro. That's totally cool that you're into that, and I respect that you're into that, but it's just not my thing. You know? Like we're all allowed to have our things and interests, which is totally okay with me. I respect it. I'm just not into that, bro. You know? Yeah. Totally dude. I respect that. Totally fine by me.
Subnuba ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:17:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I shot myself in the foot more than I care to admit by shitting on others' attempts at small talk. "Oh, you like horoscopes? Let me tell you what a crock I think they are" etc.
When the friends they've been waiting for show up, they're more likely to be introduce and include the person they've had a conversation with instead of the dickhead who trashed their interests.
But seriously, bottled water costs 1000 times more than what you pay in taxes for the equivalent amount of tap water, tap water generally undergoes much stricter and more frequent health and safety regulation and testing due to government oversight in comparison to water bottled by private companies, and in some cases, expensive bottled water is literally drawn from the same public sources as tap water!
On top of that there are all the environmental issues involved, not only just in terms of the resources used to create the bottles and the pollution created by the garbage they become, but there's the whole problem of natural water supplies being used up by private companies, or drought-ridden regions having their populations' water supplies being sold off by the state to private corporations for pennies...
So unless you're in some Third World locale or post-apocalyptic shithole like Juarez, Mexico or Flint, Michigan, that lacks the basic features of civilization like a clean water supply, it is pretty much completely insane and idiotic to buy bottled water.
So how could you not feel compelled to tell everyone this if the subject comes up??!!! How can you resist the urge to speak out?
"Whoever pulls a "well, actually" almost always shifts the conversation to himself. And now we are no longer following along with your friend's joke, we get to learn how much more you know..."
People who engage in this behavior (which we all do sometimes) tend to see it as an enlightening behavior. But in a lot of ways it's really an attention-seeking thing.
I do this too and it's great. The only problem is sometimes a few minutes in I realize that I'm actually not interested in whatever they're going on about (or at least my interest has been exhausted) but we're in too deep now so I have to let them get it all out.
I have found is that if I am not really into something I might say, "You know, I've never been able to get on board with (ex.) rap music. What are some good albums I could listen to that might win me over?" or "That's something I've never really gotten into, what do you like most about it?"
People love talking about themselves and this is a great way to be the friendliest person at the party and maybe learn something new along the way.
Jerilo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:51:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the height of social grace is to make others feel welcome and included. Don't be a dick to people that differ.
Well said! It also shows that you can respect people for their differences, which in turn will make them more willing to talk to you about...anything, since they know they won't have to worry about you beating them down just because you both don't share the same interest / opinion.
You've hit upon the core reason for manners. They are not for you, they are for the other person.
If someone hands you a water glass at the table and asks for more wine, you give them more wine. In the water glass. With a smile.
abqkat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:05:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Sometimes, manners is your Sunday best with 4 forks and elegant conversation. Other times, its eating spaghetti off of a paper plate while your uncle rambles. Norms and customs and manners change by context and adapting is perhaps more important than the actual thing
Except this practice will train you to no longer be genuine. It will bite you in the ass later as you become a chronic liar to make everyone else happy. People in this thread are too focused on the moment and just completely ignore the long term.
Astrology though? Fucking seriously? I mean, it's possible to be interested in why people believe dumb shit but I'll be damned if I do anything more than smile and dismiss someone raving about astrology. I won't be a dick but I'll either leave the conversation or politely express opposing views.
Yeah but I think it's pretty obvious that I meant the situation in which they thoroughly subscribe to its ideas. In that situation, they are being silly. And I'm probably being a dick. Whatever, conflict isn't always bad.
Yeah rather be straight and say you don't think astrology is valid , and if they don't want to talk about it to you leave it at that.You don't have to rant about how it is not science or whatever , but to fake a smile wtf
I got called out on always telling people they're wrong on new years. I can see how it's annoying so I'm trying to stop, but at the same time why do people have to be so wrong??? "Your speed triples for every second you fall!" Ummm.... no it doesn't.
vestais ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention you can actually change peoples mind this way! If you just dismiss it without a second thought, they will only feel more justified in their opinion.
Last time I went off about astrology was while I was doing minor work around the house. Long story short my rant about how bogus astrology is was cut short by burying a large knife very deep into my foot.
I give zero credence to astrology but the one time I argued with someone about it I ended up at the hospital so I leave that shit alone now.
Lvxurie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i wish more people viewed the world as you and i do
This is so fucking hard for me. Like half the girls at my hippy college believe to their core that this shit is true, and I swear I could have gotten some numbers if I didn't berated them about how fucking stupid astrology is. I think of everything on here this is the best example for me. I really like to debate shit but sometimes I get ahead of myself such as berating a drunk girl for saying I am outgoing because i'm a gemini, if I had shut the fuck up maybe I would have even gotten laid that night. On the other hand, really? Cuz i'm a gemini? ...damn crystal hippies..
I'm a Capricorn and I find that I mock people inside my head but I never let it come out like that because it's really rude. It works for me though and people don't think I'm rude so.
I feel like a lot of redditors need to realize that this goes for sports too. My home NFL team just won its division for the first time in a half a decade, but if my roommate is in earshot when I try to talk about this with friends, the conversation will quickly become inundated by some iteration of the classic "Lolol I love sportsball! Hit the puck for a field goal!!!"
I do know enough that I can go to a Superb Owl party and cheer, make some comments about how that was bullshit, and "huh, that's a weird play. I wonder what they're working on." (or last time "I'm going to the TOUCHDOWN STORE do you need anything?" which became a running gag for a couple of months) I've woken up early (like WTF o'clock) to go to a sports bar with my then-gf to watch the gold medal hockey games.
I've said it before: If you're so smart, why can't you figure out how to be social if people "dumber than you" have it sorted?
Sedu ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:52:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same mindset as people who brag about how much they don't like/don't do something. "LOL, I never read! If I picked up a book, I probably wouldn't remember what end to start at!" or the people who will pull out their encyclopedic knowledge of all Harry Potter lore to explain in excruciating detail why they dislike its world/lore.
I asked my coworker the other day if he liked the new Star Wars, don't worry no major spoilers, he said not really. Upon inquiring he said, "who has a medieval European sword in a world based on feudal Japanese society." that was literally his only major complaint about the whole movie.
Sedu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:15:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I... what? That answer would just stun me for a moment, allowing him to get the upper hand and finish me off. Your friend is a master.
This is funny to me because for decades it's been the other way around. Try to go into a mixed social group and get people to listen to you talk about Magic: The Gathering or Dungeons and Dragons.
I guarantee it's easier to talk about football.
whyspir ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:33:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am with you. My partner -loves- the Twilight movies. I tolerate them for his sake. Because my love for my partner is orders of magnitude greater than my distaste for twilight.. I watched the 2nd through the last movies with him. Because he's my goddam husband and sometimes sacrifices are required... Now if I could just convince him that nerd stuff like MtG is actually fun...
AnthX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:13:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found some of those card games really abstract. But when I got to Settlers of Catan with a board and little pictures and models it was fine. Of course it was still symbolism.
Maybe that's his issue - it's hard to relate to it because they're just cards.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:03:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll do you one better and suggest, "What do you like about Twilight?" make it sincere, not condescending, and you'll appear invested--because hopefully you are--in hearing about them and their values.
Envy121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only shift to hate if people get in my face about it.
breqwas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you're going out with someone who likes Twilight? Well guess what. We all have guilty pleasures.
Twilight Sparkle is a great pony, and a very relatable one! I feel no guilt in liking her. Why anyone should?
I have a moderately laissez faire attitude about most things except Twilight. If it's a guilty pleasure, I'm okay with that...if you think it's the best literature ever, you will be excommunicated from my fallout shelter.
"I hate that" isn't even that bad, It's cool that you don't like it, it's fine that you hate it... Don't tell me that it's bad tho...
If I say I listen to Deadmau5, you can say "I hate him". You can't say "he's fucking terrible".
a) because now you're making me feel bad for enjoying something and
b) because you're objectively fucking wrong, his sales and awards and praise speak for themselves. but it's fine if it's not your thing.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I'll happily accept if someone just "doesn't like" something. Rather than if they give me one reason they don't like which I can counter with a few second of thinking logically. If someone just doesn't tea, that's fine. But if they say tea is too herb flavoured then I should be able to give them a different flavour right? Not always.
Very true! Everyone has something. The world would be very boring if everyone was into the same movies / books / music. I'm 28, got myself a Justin Bieber ticket. One, I love pop music. Two, I used to dance and I can't wait to see the choreography for the show. And three, I really want to see him live and see how he holds up performing on stage. Everyone at work made fun of me. Whatever, I'm not asking anyone else to go or like him! People can hate whoever / whatever they want but why is it so hard to accept the fact others may like it?
Yeah, one of the things I've learned is that only idiots (of which I was one) say that something sucks. That's the wrong way to look at things. If you like something, say that you like it, not that it's good. If you don't like something, say that you don't like it, not that it sucks.
I don't like rap music, but I no longer say that it sucks. It just doesn't appeal to me, and that's ok. And if I don't like that other people like rap music, then I can try to expose them to other music, but I have no control over what other people like. That's life.
I once went on a date with a new guy. He was cute, we were getting along. I went on a 5 minutes diatribe about how golf is boring, it uses up so many resources and is horrible for the environment, it isn't really a sport, etc etc etc.
Then the guy tells me that he went to college on a golf scholarship.
I still don't like golf, so we clearly weren't a good fit.
Oh that's too bad, almost seems comedic though. Having said that and also having worked at a golf course in the past....Golf IS a total waste of resources, the amount of water used is staggering.
True. I think you misunderstood though, I meant it as a waste in regards to resources, specifically water management. Not necessarily arguing the entertainment aspect. It's like saying I get lots of fun dumping buckets and barrels of water off my apartment. I'd have fun doing it but it is still considered wasteful. The water can be used for a lot more than just leisure.
Same thing happened with me and this German girl who was anti semetic, except I didn't say anything until after I had sex with her I whispered in her ear, "how does it feel to get fucked by a dirty jew right in your nazi cunt"... Great sex too.
I wouldn't date you either. Golf is the best. You get to do a leisurely outdoors and enjoy the fresh air, it's good exercise if you're walking, there's still a ton of nature put into courses with grass, wooded areas, lakes, etc, and it's just a fun activity that you can enjoy literally from 5 or 6 up until your body completely breaks down.
If you were railing on racing and all the fossil fuels it burns up, we'd be cool.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the water used for golf courses is both more renewable and pollutes less than the resources used for NASCAR/most racing events.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not immediately. 'Sucks' is a pretty casual word and if a date says they like, for example, The Dark Knight Rises, I would feel completely comfortable saying, "I thought it sucked but I can see the merit in it. What did you like about it?"
Boom. No hard feelings, and I have still expressed interest in what they have to say. If there are hard feelings, oh well I guess. It wouldn't have worked out anyway.
Saying "I thought it sucked" is a lot different than just saying it sucks.
Boinkerz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:05:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No need to neuter your language at that point, the same message is getting across. People aren't going to nitpick the differences between your phrasing of "I think it sucks" and "it sucks" in a casual conversation.
So true. I am always turned off by people who put other people down because they like something that they claim is stupid or sucks or whatever. It's not hurting you that someone likes a TV show, movie, song etc. so let them enjoy it without making them feel bad about it.
Pendylan ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:43:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I don't like having cancer.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:39:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the spirit
Sw3Et ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't overly fond of that Hitler fellow either.
Well, rap music really isn't my thing, but I've only really listened to eminem and Jay Z, are there better artists out there?
I think I Got it!
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:01:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that question about rap is serious, I'd recommend starting with notorious B.I.G. or Tupac. Unless you're looking for something more modern, in which case I'd recommend kendrick lamar
Yeah I can't imagine you listen to Eminem and jay-z and don't think they're very good. Jay-Z love depends on the person, but Em is great at what he does!
t_hab ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:25:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with this advice for the negative things, but for the positive things, it's okay to get excited and carried away. Saying "this ice cream is really good" or "my brother's band is awesome" is fine, so long as you don't get offended when people disagree. Enthusiasm can be contagious, so strong positivity isn't as off-putting as strong negativity.
dunckle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish more people approached different opinions the way you do. And I hope you can extend that approach to all aspects of your life!
Xavanux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I learned to just not say anything about a topic unless it's one I like. If I don't like your interests, that's ok because that is what you like. I just say, "I'm not into that but I'll listen to what you want to say."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would explain why. To use rap as the example again (and generalizing heavily), I'd say that it doesn't really speak to me, that I prefer the sound of guitars and real drums, that rap seems to have more in common with poetry than song and that I've never really understood poetry, etc.
I always try to be prepared to have my opinion challenged if I express it.
Yes, especially with music. If I don't like a band or a song or a style, I make sure I can explain my opinion before sharing it. That's conversation, versus just taking a rude dump on something someone else likes.
bambo758 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree with you...
But.
I do feel like when someone says that something sucks, or that something is good, it is implied that it is their opinion. I'd always assume that, until they explicitly state that something is objectively bad, at which point I'd point out that they're an idiot for stating an opinion as if it was a fact.
That's true, but if you say "Oh, I really enjoyed Gravity" and the other person says "Ugh, Gravity sucks" - well, it's kind of a conversation killer. It's certainly not going to make them instantly more charming.
If you're trying to become more attractive/likable, there are better ways to disagree with someone.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:25:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll take what OP said a little further: If 'sucks' or 'good' is all you can come up with you haven't given it enough real thought and you don't really get to determine if it is 'good' or if it 'sucks'. They are not real or genuine answers(and being genuine is attractive).
'Sucks' and 'good' are filler words that really don't mean very much and don't take very much thought to assign to something. They should be your initial reactions to something and a basis on which to form an opinion, but they should not be the end of the opinion. Take a little more time to think about it; form a real opinion on it. Turn it from 'this sucks' to a well thought out answer that informs the people around you who you really are and what your real tastes are.
maybe there is already a well-formed opinion but the thing to which is being referred isn't important enough to merit anything but an "it sucks".
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is the title of the thread? It isn't how to efficiently say things, or how to use the least amount of words possible, or what thoughts or feeling are important; it is Simple things that make you more attractive. The opinion: 'This sucks' isn't attractive. Having a fully formed well articulated response to things that you don't like is.
i suppose elaborating to strangers might be more attractive but i don't know how often people have the opportunity to do that anyway. i would only use "it sucks" with familiar company who already know me so the whole thing seems a bit hair-splitty.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some things really are just legitimately shitty though. I don't need to form a well thought out reasoning as to why a $2 half-finished game on steam is shitty. Quickly labeling it shitty is the best thing I could do because to give it any more thought simply wastes my time and the calories I've used up creating that thought.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$2 half-finished game on steam is shitty
That is more than enough thought, and says a lot more than 'sucks'.
I can now infer quite a bit about you, it makes you seem more genuine, and you pretty much said it yourself(by not thinking it was a well formed opinion) it wasn't that hard to do.
Secondly we're not talking about what takes the least amount of effort. We are talking about what makes you more attractive. If the person is not worth the 'extra calories and time' to think a little harder why are you trying to attract them?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:57:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the difference is that you won't be making people who do like the thing (rap, a video game, giraffes) feel bad or attacked.
Framing it as a difference of opinion leaves a lot more wriggle room and can actually result in some fun conversations.
Telling someone that their favourite band "sucks" is just going to make them feel bad and like you less.
farfle10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are some things I say I don't like, and some things I say are bad. Using which depends on my expertise with what I'm talking about. If I understand what it's trying to do, and I'm knowledgeable of the context in which it exists, then I don't mind using the b word.
Another perfect example of "it's not what you say, but how you say it." I wholeheartedly agree. Personally I like to ask people about what they are interested in because as usual, nothing is as simple as it seems and it is amazing to see how in depth certain interests can go
God so many people from my church are like this with music (they're al on the worship team or whatever.) I say I like a band and they're like "Oh that band sucks." Rather than "Ah I don't like them." It's so infuriating. How dare people have a different taste in music than them!
pirarchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a matter of phrasing. A preference is a preference.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I started taking this approach years ago. However I'm still very guilty of that mentality when it comes to popular music. 99% of the music I hear on the radio is garbage to me; I just can't stand it. I've not heard a single Drake song that I can say I even remotely enjoy except for "Forever," and that most likely has to do with the fact that he's hardly in it. The sound of his voice just irritates me and the style of his flow always makes it sound like someone who's way too high to be rapping is somehow stringing together "lyrics." I totally understand that that's my relatively ignorant point of view because I've never listened to his body of work outside of radio hits and the occasional random song of his. But I just fucking hate him. I do think he sucks, personally.
As I said, I've utilized this mentality for years now because it's a mature way to approach things - to be able to separate the subjective from the objective. But popular music on the radio...god damn it, I just can't. I really honestly can't stand the sound of most of it. Occasionally some songs are on that don't bother me, but most of it hits my ears and it just annoys me. Ellie Goulding is one of example of a popular music artist that I actually kind of enjoy. I've heard nothing but rave reviews about Bieber's new album from many different people...enough so to actually make curious enough to check it out eventually.
I don't like kiddie porn but I guess...no, it's just wrong.
satchoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rap music is great!!!!!!!!!!FUCK U
rmphys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With music or art, that is fair (although I would argue there is intrinsically more artistic value in some things than in others, but lets leave that be for now). But some things are objectively worse than others. For example, I would not entertain the idea that someone prefers to drink vodka during a marathon rather than water. That's just stupid and I can give them reasons why. This is obviously and intentionally ridiculous example to proof a point. Also, rap is great, sorry.
Why do you have a problem with other people liking it though? I mean I do think it's good to expose to people to new forms of music but why do it to drive someone away from something they like?
Six months ago I would have said, "I don't like rap music." I'm surely not the target demographic - 47 year old chubby suburban white guy.
Now I wouldn't say it.
I wouldn't mention that I like it, out of some sort of embarrassment, but there are some really talented people doing clever things with positive messages these days under the "rap" banner, and you might take another look.
Folks like Macklemore and George Watsky are the first two I think of, but there are a bunch of them.
Being honest and saying what you feel is better than dancing around for fear of hurting somebody's feelings. Are you part of the young Political Correctness generation? Sounds like it.
[deleted] ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 17:20:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should at least see the appeal in me rather than hate me without giving me a chance.
joshg8 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:02:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did, and you squandered it by being a dismissive jerkoff.
The bad part is the mentality some have that other people should change to make their lives happier/better. Whether they should or shouldn't doesn't really matter; thinking this isn't going to help that person. What they should do is actively work to improve their own lives, regardless of how unfair they perceive things to be.
I can go the other way as well. All too many times I've had fans of show/game/some other thing tell me that I couldn't dislike it, or I haven't seen enough, etc. Recently wasted 50 hours watching every episode of Game of Thrones to settle disagreement with a friend that I can dislike it.
LoppyQ ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:02:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you can totally dislike it but can you can atleast see why they would like it.
Heh. They can be rather dull if you don't get seriously into the lore. Can't stand most, but have been on RuneScape so long I am 90% about the lore.
LoppyQ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:18:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cant get into mass effects gameplay. mostly cause i suck at shooters. but the lore! i'm into so hard into it don't even care.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
World of Warcraft's setting isn't all that generic, though. It has a ton of steampunk influences, with everything from airplanes to tanks to gatling guns to giant submarines.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well the whole colorful MMO fantasy look. but now that i look back on it i think im blinded by the shoulder pad guy with large weapon look. I see it all the time. IMHO Panda place is best land. Cow is best race. Thats how much wow i've played.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:35:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not defending one way or another here I'm just saying if you go into something with the assumption that you aren't going to like it.... You probably won't like it.
This is true, but not always for me. (luckily!) Usually expectations match up, but I had expectations of Breaking Bad being dull that turned out to be a close second for all-time favorite show. It's unusual, but hey, at least it happens!
I don't like people like this, but I have been this person.
I have a friend who refuses to watch HIMYM. I normally wouldn't care, except that her reasons for not even trying to watch it is because she doesnt think it will be funny (i can handle that, even if that reason is completely unfounded) and because of NPH character. She heard someone describe Barney and decided that the show was awful, because Barney is the opposite of real life NPH.
The worst part is my friends and I all quote the show to each other, and she always laughs and asks where its from. We tell her, and she still won't watch it. I think she's just being stubborn at this point.
GoT, though, that's a different story. I love the books and I enjoy the show, but it's not for everyone. It has elements of everything, but first and foremost it's fantasy which isn't everyone's cup of tea.
Kudos to you for sitting through it, how you managed to even pay attention to something that doesn't interest you for that long takes dedication. You must be one stubborn sumbitch (in the best way, of course). It probably meant a lot to your friend that you did that, though.
Haha. Yeah, stubborn sums it up. I love fantasy settings and I perhaps would like the books more, depending how far drawn apart they are from the show. Just something about the show didn't work for me. Maybe I just like having characters that last on average a season before death. Hah.
I resent some of the deaths, some were necessary haha
There's always the whole books vs. movies/shows argument, but in GoTs case the books really are better.
The show misses out on all the inner dialogue/inner struggles which makes a world of difference I find.
Also, the books have so much more information that the series just can't cover. For example, Brans story isn't my favorite in either form, but at least in the books it has a specific role and has more depth to it that keeps me wanting to see what happens to him. In the show, I see Bran and I roll my eyes haha
If you do like fantasy than I recommend the books. The first 3 are the best, IMO :)
The first real death seemed... To set the tone. It seemed necessary to the story, in a way, but seemed like the entire story was just a repetition of that moment from then on. It disappointed me. Brann as well, seems such a supporting character
It really was, it was the cataclyst that put the whole cluster fuck in motion haha
Some of the other deaths were necessary, most weren't. I think GRRM is a bit of a sadist, or he was running out of plot twists so he created some lame ones.
Brans story seems like its turned into a supporting role, but for a while there it was leading to something huge. I don't know if it'll still get to where I thought it was going, but I hope so because it'll be quite the game changer.
Indeed. I think BB took much more investment in death. Every death in BB fluidly led into a continuing storyline or arc. Sure, some did in GoT, but most ended up being passing notions later on at best.
From the start it seemed Brans would be a huge, huge storyline and then it really ramped up to it.. Then it was kinda, eh, he's here every few episodes, oh he did this... Not much focus, just clips.
Most deaths in GoT seem to want to be significant, and I guess they could be weakly argued that they are, but until all the story lines start actually advancing again they're just annoying.
Like Catlyn. I'm not sure how far in the story you are or how much you know, but her death started to be significant and then it seems like that story line was just forgotten about.
IMO after the third book, when it seems like GRRM starts reaching, the deaths just start seeming unnecessary.
I covered all TV episodes. Her and Rob seemed to want to be such a major one- But it just... Wasn't. Yeah, it set off a chain of events with Brianne. That became it's own story arc, which just passively mentioned Catlyn a few times later. That's pretty much it.
In the books it turns into something way better. I've heard whisperings that it'll be included in this season of the show, but I just don't know how they'll do that. To tell all the other stories, and hers, and not have any of them edited to crap to the point of taking away from them to fit it all in?
Unless they make it more than 10 episodes, it doesn't seem to likely :(
Brianne and her story... I don't know where it's going really. In the book or the show. Sansa's arc has really deviated from the book, and the next book hasn't even been done yet.
Yeah, idk, it seems like Brianne/whatever is done almost or will be a 'I'm here in the background of yet another Sansa/Arya' scene. Maybe down the road she finds herself in Braavos and happens upon Arya again, after failing duty to Sansa. Just seems like she's a mess of a character. Shame too, her character is interesting to me. Just meh writing for it.
Like most of the characters, she's got a lot of potential that we will probably never see her reach.
I don't mea to keep saying this, but in the book she's a far more interesting character! Again, that comes from being able to read her thoughts and how she's processing everything.
Yeah, I will definitely give the books a try. I like the characters for most part (except Geoffrey. I know he's supposed to be the complete shit character you hate, but fucking hell I couldn't stand looking at him) and the setting so might as well
Haha even the way his name is spelled is douchy. Geoffrey.
At least in the books you can picture his face however you want lol
You won't be sorry you read the books! The series is my favorite type of book to read, especially the effort that gets put into the world itself and all the lore and history!
This discussion we've had inspired me to re-read it again for the 5th time now haha, I can't get enough!
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignore the username, but I'm incredibly annoyed by people who wouldn't stop bitching that "the book is better - the book is always better!!!" Who is even making a comparison? Is it a competition? Who cares if movie Ana behaved a little differently towards Mr. Grey?
Prepare for /r/iamverysmart people bleating about the upcoming Ready Player One adaptation. It's gonna be the male equivalent of Twihards and Beliebers.
I think it depends completely on what's being adapted.
In some cases, books are better, in others the movies are.
People are going to compare them because it's the same story being told in different mediums, it's inevitable. There's going to be differences, which version of the story is better?
For example, I hate reading Stephen King, his writing style isn't for me, but I love his stories and I'll watch movie versions.
Another example is GoT, the show deviates from the books in significant ways. Is it better or worse? I can't actually answer that because the next book hasn't fucking been released yet, but when I have something to compare the show to I'll form my opinion.
Some people take differences between books and movies/shows really personally, some people enjoy it. Unless something gets really fucked up in a terrible way, I usually enjoy differences. Sometimes GoT the show makes changes I don't like, sometimes they do. It's kept me really engaged in the story though, so I won't complain haha
Recently wasted 50 hours watching every episode of Game of Thrones to settle disagreement with a friend that I can dislike it.
That's dedication. I think I have patience when it comes to these things, but 50 hours is beyond the call of duty. Good on you sir, it means you care about the other person. I've also come to terms that yes, there are people out there who can dislike Game of Thrones (though I sure hope you don't hate it).
I wouldn't say full hate. I hate the fandom it's gained, at times, for the people who seem more interested in the various sex scenes than anything. But by large, I don't hate it. Nice world. I'd like to like it, as it seems to be a deep and colorful world, as is why I love RuneScape.
Just some of the characters and storylines really make it hard for me to actually like it. Most of the Daenerys Targaryen storyline I actually liked. It oddly seems to be the most consistently upkept along the seasons thus far. A good range of emotions, sex scenes that made sense story wise (Sorry, some of the others just... Seemed placed for views.) and a good character to follow, who makes judgment calls instead of defaulting to betray instantly.
Yeah, it's kind of peaked and is going down hill, albeit slowly, especially the most recent season. Personally I like the books better, but then again, they're not even that different, they're kind of the same thing except one is more detailed and you can hear their inner monologues. It's just that the the way the books handle things is kind of better. Many of the things which may not have made sense in the show adaptation made more sense in the context of the book where everything was actually fleshed out and not rushed or comes out of no where.
Still, they're long as fuck and if you watched 50 hours of Game of Thrones and felt nothing, then I sure as hell wouldn't recommend the books (maybe as an audiobook if you frequently walk your dog and want to do something while you walk him like I do - even then, it still might not be right for you).
Dexiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had the same thing happen with Naruto. I watched almost 100 episodes, constantly being told "it gets better soon".
I didn't enjoy Game of Thrones either but thankfully haven't been nagged to watch that much. There's been a personal effort though because I feel left out. Started reading the books instead and I can actually understand what's happening now!
I might pick up the books or at least read an eBook some time. Good world and characters, maybe the dramatization just ruined it for me.
SirTD ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:34:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend often has blind hate for things, just because. It's fucking frustrating when he shits on something and won't listen to people who try and explain why they/others might like it.
LoppyQ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate that especially when you want to convince them otherwise and they interrupt you with. "No no no no i don't care." Boiling rage.
SirTD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:15 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Or "bro I'm kidding". Maybe, but also maybe not.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:44:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At the same time, having a negative opinion on something you know about gives people the impression that your backbone isn't a limp noodle, and that you have some interesting personality quirks.
LoppyQ ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:50:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't mean you cant see the appeal in it. I mean i fucking hate apple products but i can't see why people would use them.
And hating something as a personality quirk varys. Like, "I fucking hate redbean paste" compared to. "Gee wiz i hate those blacks."
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:11:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah.. I'd have to say being a skinhead isn't exactly the kind of endearing personality quirk I was getting at.
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I agree. Don't be one of those people who starts to fake shriek in pain because some song you don't like comes on. Just say you dislike it and move on.
This is incredibly true. I keep telling one of my friends who struggles with talking to women that he'd have better luck if he just looked at things with a more open, positive outlook.
Lo and behold, I overhear the conversation he's having with a prospective ladyfriend...
Her: "The fog last night was so cool!"
Him: "Fuck fog, fog is the fucking worst."
Her: "Well, it's pretty, and--"
Him: "No, it's fucking stupid. I can't drive in it, it's annoying, and I can't see shit in it. Fuck fog, fuck everything about fog."
Her: -sip-
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see shit like this all the time with my mother and stepdad. If he keeps that up.....
This is great advice. You can understand and appreciate something without liking it. It just makes you come across and more friendly, accepting and diplomatic while still being honest.
I always use Ryan Seacrest as an example. You can not like Ryan Seacrest, that's totally fine. But don't dismiss the entire empire he's built around his brand and how he's lined himself up as the successor to Dick Clark. That shit is impressive!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my sister does this. She always "I HATE this or that" but then she's really into things like Twilight and bad tattoos. I find it funny that she doesn't see a connection about how the world is always love and hate. Sometimes there's a middle ground.
BZH_JJM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've started doing that more and more, and have felt generally happier and better about my life. Getting mad about things that I might not like is simply tiring.
To bounce off of this: picky eaters. But mainly people who refuse to try new food.
My boyfriend hates seafood. But he has literally avoided the stuff like the plague since he was 4. So I keep asking him to just TRY it. There were SO MANY foods that I hated at age 4 that I love now (cheese is one of them!). He's 25 and he won't eat anything but chicken nuggets and Mac & cheese and it's literally embarrassing eating out in public with a man who eats like a child and won't try a single fucking 'adult' food.
My family made the mistake of inviting him to one of those really fancy restaurants where he ordered ravioli expecting chef boyardee and got chef ramsey. He was literally revolted and never touched it. Ordered a side of French fries and ate that instead. It is literally his absolute worst quality.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remembered where id only eat chicken nugs and mac and cheese when i was freaking 9ish. If i didn't change my tastes i wouldn't be as ...whats the word... "eat everythingy" as i am now. I always take risks when eating out. I want to taste foods around the world.
This is why I watched the first three Twilight films (all on planes). Hating something I saw is more justified than hating something I didn't.
mlong14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm shocked when people react so harshly when I mention a celebrity like Kathy Griffin. She automatically says she hates her. How can you hate someone you never met?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you have a good, well thought out reason why you don't like something popular, try not to talk about it as if you hold someone's interest in that thing against them.
rimsh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great one. I think that caring about people includes caring about the things they love. Some people I used to be friends with acted that way all the time. I got pretty into comic books, movies, shows, etc. kind of recently and even though I wasn't talking to them about it nonstop it would get shut down almost every time no matter what the situation. I'm a pretty emotional person (not overly emotional, I've worked on improving that aspect of myself a lot) so this hurt me pretty deeply. I found something I loved and I just wanted to share it with the people I loved. It kept happening and I just couldn't take that.
What I'm saying is that this simple thing can make the difference between keeping and losing friends.
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LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend recently introduced me to the Arctic Monkeys. I like them.
I'm one of those Nickelback sympathizers who say they don't deserve the amount of hate they get.
My boyfriend has commented several times that he's happy that I take an interest in his interests. And I really appreciate that he, too, takes an interest in mine. Thanks to this, my interests have grown, his have grown, and we have more in common now.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having similar interests to your SO is totally the bees knees. Me and my boyfriend have similar taste sin videogames so whatever he buys i would want to play too.
On the subject, but I'm so glad we have so much in common, like I'm REALLY glad him and his best friend like fighting games, we sit up at night playing Mortal Kombat X and it's just a blast. None of my friends like fighting games, besides Smash Bros, so I never have anyone to play some of my favorite games with. It's even better now that we've played enough, and he's gotten good enough to beat me. So much more fun when there's a challenge and no holding back.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend kicks my ass in a lot of games. Does make me salty sometimes but im glad we dont get mad or argue when i cant win a single match. I cant wait to move in with him so we both can increase our console count. he has a PS4....and i have so many games i have yet to play. I haven't even played mortal kombat X yet.
My boyfriend had an old CRT TV and an NES. I practically live at his place anymore, and from this, he now has wifi, my flat screen, ps4, and WiiU are at his apartment, as well as my blu ray movies. As well as a few more pots, pans, and cooking utensils, seasonings, and I have a tooth brush and some make up there.
The rest of my ~40 consoles and 1150 games are still at my apartment. I take what I want over, and try not to clutter his place up.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hnnng collections. I wanna see. Gotta be a big apartment
This is the biggest issue I have with my girlfriend! She will blindly hate things and feign ignorance at why anyone would enjoy it.
Drives me up the fucking wall.
katha757 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In one of my graphic design classes in college our teacher made a point of making you backup your opinion on something. If we were critiquing each others projects, we had to say why we do or don't like it. It really made me start thinking instead of spewing bullshit like I used to do.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
some people have the worst reasons to hate stuff. Like it can be watered down to. "Just because" or "cause its stupid" and then the pure rage comes. That is a good way to practice not blindly hating something.
What if my friends prefer the Star Wars prequels over the originals??
And what about sand? It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PANIC. also sand makes glass! so there is that. Just think of sand as pre-dish substance.
rblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like anal sex? Everyone online gets mad at me when I tell them I think it's gross since poop comes out of there.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a double edged sword. It's gross but feels hella good giving and receiving. gotta clean back there....
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
I wouldn't blame ya for not liking it for that reason.
rblue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll try it on my wife next time she falls asleep on her side.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Careful she might try it on you.
rblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good call. I may wind up as a moderator at /r/pegging. ;)
Edit: oh shit. It's an actual subreddit. NSFW guys.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)!! If that surprises you, try not to go in too deep!
rblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taste is almost impossible to see the other persons opinion on. Bleh- Olives.
vededju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. My sister in law is like this. It's gotten to the point that I don't even bother to ask her if she wants to do something (let's all go the aquarium, or let's all go watch Star Wars) because there is a greater than 50% chance that she will think it's stupid and she will go on and on for 20 minutes about how stupid it is.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Infinite rage. My sister would do that but with restaurants.
jaxxon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is good. Not easy, but learning to gain appreciation for things - mostly showing genuine interest in the things other people are into, especially so that you can have empathy for them, is super super helpful.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less hate makes your life super great.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it's radiohead and pearl jam. Then you're allowed.
It will trigger the "wow, you're fun at parties" thought.
N8CCRG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I time every journey to bump into you, accidentally
I charm you and tell you of the boys I hate
All the girls I hate
All the words I hate
All the clothes I hate
How I'll never be anything I hate
You smile, mention something that you like
How you'd have a happy life if you did the things you like
Franz Ferdinand - The Dark of the Matinee
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know I've always hated genocide, but now I can see the appeal in wiping out an entire "race" of people. I'll have to give it a chance next time, thanks for the advice!
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still hate glee even though I have given it plenty of viewings with my ex. Why would I enjoy watching kids sing / ruin songs they weren't even alive to hear. The show is stupid and the premise is stupid. If I had a nickel for every signing show America has I would be able to buy the networks and stop them from making sing/ dance shows. Woman can we get a better hobby than these. Half the time you all don't even like talented artist who are good at singing or dancing. I mean Adele is the bomb. But many of you want to hear Taylor swift whine or listen to selena gomez. It's just laughable and sad that girls love dancing and singing as a hobby but yet all the tv you see avoids talented artist and we praise the mediocre ones.
I also have been raised in music because my mother has a degree and taught it for 25 years. Anyone who has taken music classes knows the shit on the radio and tv is garbage. Not saying all of it is. But the majority of mainstream music now a days is trash.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really have to wade through all that trash to find anything good these days. Just like older days. Pop rubbish passes. You cant ever rely on mainstream media for influences in your tastes. Afterall they want to show the average person what they want and not specific people with specific tastes. I dont watch tv anymore. Cable box has been out of my room for 2 years now. You dont have to put up with mainstream medias crap anymore.
Isn't that what opinions are though? I love how reddit spouts out some anti-human behaviour suggestions like its nothing, but in reality this is impossible to achieve. The reason people with similar interests get along is because they blatantly dislike the same things, no need for an explanation or an attempt to see the appeal others might see in it.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is more like expanding upon yes or no. you can still hate it. But you kinda seem like a dick just saying "I hate it just because" Hey a lot of things are human nature, like shitting but we control our shit.
Exactly, and when you're in an argument remove yourself from it and try to see it from the point of view you disagree with. It may help you change your mind, or at least it will help you understand how to better continue the conversation.
Physically: a very simple skincare routine of face washing and moisturizing gives you a glow. Very simple workouts like pushups and sit ups* and squats (and, and, and) make a fairly quick and noticeable change in posture which makes you walk more erect (giggity) and is apparently an attractive trait
Mentally: read, have interests and learn how to share knowledge
Justin620 ยท 1647 points ยท Posted at 19:43:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
AFakeman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:53:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humour.
All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit but look great.
caljor ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:12:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently bought the same products following Patrick Bateman's skincare routine, except for the ice pack (you can get the same result by drinking water regularly) and final moisturizer lotion.
It was a big improvement on my looks and I even feel better during the day. Takes some time but you can do it faster when it becomes routine, and it is worth it in my opinion.
Pitta_ ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:59:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
caljor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I don't follow the book or the movie blindly, but adapted it to what gets me the best results, and used some threads on /r/skincareaddiction as reference.
Also, I have really oily skin, so routines like exfoliating every day might not be for everyone but have been great for me.
As a fellow oily-skinned person, I want to encourage you to look into other options for keeping your oil at bay. This may be an effective short-term solution to your oil problem, but it is extremely harsh and will have very negative long-term effects on your skin.
caljor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What products have been succesful in getting this effect for you? How many times a week can I exfoliate without damaging my skin?
I wouldn't recommend physical exfoliation at all, but you could probably get away with doing it once/week as long as it's not too harsh (eg. wash cloth is gentler than an almond scrub). Chemical exfoliation can be done daily.
Finding a heavy moisturizer that didn't break me out was the best thing I could do for my oily skin. I'm oily as a result of my skin over-compensating for how dry it is, so feeding it as much moisture as possible helps.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:02:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much does this cost altogether? Do you buy brand name or generic?
LameBond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, we need products and links man!
caljor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:07:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't give you links because I bought them locally, I found what I wanted on an Avon catalogue and then ordered then directly from a person.
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I think in the link I posted they put some expensive products, you could probably find them cheaper from other brands and get the same result. The price should be very different because I bought them in Brazil but it was around $40-50,00.
LameBond ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:53:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually looking at this exact page earlier today before I even saw your post! The reason I asked was because I also noticed the products were expensive and wanted to get a second view so I appreciate your response, I'll look into avon thanks.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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caljor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He said "your skin looks good, so soft" and tried to touch it. I pushed his hand away with my fist and replied: "the compliment was sufficient, Luis"
There is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping your's and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.
stymie99 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:47:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's one hell of a routine, only a psycho would do that every day
Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.
Zohren ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:52:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This just feels like so much time and effort.
I can think of a thousand other things I can do with my time that I would enjoy more than doing 1000 stomach crunches.
How long does all this take you?
Also, sounds expensive.
Edit: I'm an idiot. I knew that shit sounded vaguely familiar. -_-
I liked the movie. I was told the standard "Then you'll love the book". Book was a good read but maybe this was a case of movie beating book. Christian Bale at his best.
culnaej ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got to 'balanced' before I could tell where you were going.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, is it bad that the most crazy part of that (in my opinion) comment was 'an herb-mint...'?
I know that Americans pronounce 'herb' without the 'h', but to see a written example that reflects the difference in pronunciation... Ah, so weird. So so weird.
qdhcjv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once you're done with all that, it's time for bed again
thekream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jesus christ every morning? You must look like a newborn baby from all that
At first I was thinking "Wow this guy has his shit to together" before catching the reference.
fugazied ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I did all of these steps, I had all the characteristics of a human beingโflesh, blood, skin, hairโbut my depersonalization was so intense, had gone so deep, that my normal ability to feel compassion had been eradicated, the victim of a slow, purposeful erasure. I was simply imitating reality, a rough resemblance of a human being, with only a dim corner of my mind functioning.
EDIT: Oops it went over my head :( I figure most people already know this but I guess I'll keep this comment here for education purposes.
US doesn't regulate self cleaning products, and virtually everything you've said is pseudo science, you don't need special lotion to clean your pores, you need a substance that attracts particles with negative charges and particles with positive charges separately, IE basic water and soap. That's how cleaning before anti-bacterials works. Many of the skin care products you use are potentially bad for you with prolonged use, and could actually be worse than just using normal body wash or bar soap, and shampoo. A few bit of the things you've said have some truth to it, IE alchohol evaporates quickly, but whether or not that actually makes you look older begs the question, I could see it potentially drying out skin, but why you are just splashing alcohol on your face in the first place is beyond me.
Basic science:
Not enough sleep will make you look tired and sick, and less attractive, so just sleep on a normal schedule (6 - 9 hours), the same happens when you get too much sleep, but that usually takes effort on the part of the individual sleeping. You would have to try under normal circumstances to get too much sleep.
Being off your sleep schedule will have the same effects.
Exercise is also like sleep, you'll need it the same way you'll need sleep, but humans never actually lifted weights in prehistory, we ran to hunt our prey. You don't need to bench press for it to be considered decent exercise. Ideally if you want to not deal with the gym, you can do pretty good by doing at 45 minutes every day for running (this typically includes weekends, and you typically exploit the free time there to extend your run to maybe 1:30 to 2 hours if you are serious).
There are some caveats to this. When I say running, I mean actual running, it may not be fast all the way through, but your leg motions must match the human running motion, you shouldn't be walking. The main difference between running and walking is the number of feet you have on the ground at any given time, in walking you can have both, but in running you only have one.
Additionally you will want to not stop, it is recommended at the bare minimum 20 min of continuous running to actually get real muscle growth, but you shouldn't be stopping like that during your runs at all, it should be a straight 45 min run.
One thing you should know about the bodies of mammals in general, is that the more muscle mass we have, the more energy it takes to supply energy to these muscles. I believe muscles grow in the number of cells they have when you get stronger, unlike fat which you keep the same number of cells and they just become bigger, but regardless what happens is that the number of mitochondria, bacteria that animals host inside their cells that produce energy for your body, increases, requiring more sustenance to sustain supply to your muscles. So getting fit increases the rate at which you burn calories even if you are just sitting still.
This means that attaching another work out routine to your run is useful, and typical of decent runners, this typically includes a combination of push ups, crunches, leg lifts, elbow stands, and other core and arm work outs that don't require special equipment. Additionally these help with tone rather than bulk (well actually tone is a bullshit word, you have no control over your muscles other than how much you train any of them, so what were really saying here is that this exercise will help grow and maintain these muscles to a point that doesn't enter the "Human Hulk" stage of muscle growth)
It is also useful to perform stretches after a work out (though honestly it doesn't matter too much if you aren't training for a race) with your legs, and doing short sprints (a quarter of a mile or less, or 400 meters or less) which can be done before your long distance run, and take between 5 and 10 minutes to complete. Additionally sprints can be used as their own workout, and use some different muscles than long distance running, so its possible to interleave these workouts. Sprints also are not meant to be done consecutively, but you are also meant to feel the work out faster than a long distance run. An example of a sprint may be sprint 100 meters one place and back, have a thirty second break, and sprint again. The problem with full work out sprints is that it may cause damage to those who are older with sufficient persistence, humans, once again, were built for long distance running, not 100m dashes, and planning around them is much more complicated than long distance runs.
When talking about aging, especially for those of lighter complexion (and really even if you are of olive or light brown tone as well) avoid staying in direct sunlight with out sunblock for prolonged persistent periods of time. One sunburn isn't going to turn you into a leather wallet, but you are constantly in the sun with out any protection, especially if you are white, you'll end up looking like you are fifty by the time you reach your thirtieth birthday. Tanning salons are also a no no, they provide no net benefit from a real attractiveness point of view (the idea "darker = more attractive" in the west came from the industrial revolution in Great Britain, those who were darker where people rich enough to afford to escape dark smoggy indoor industry work to the coast lines or colonies where they were able to tan more, its associated with wealth). The sun over time destroys your skins ability to repair itself, tanning is a byproduct of this repair mechanism, and causes the leathery old texture you see in individuals who tan a lot, but even more nuanced effects are noticeable in attractiveness.
Exfoliation typically involves deep scrubbing on the skin. This is a stupid thing to indulge in. That deep scrubbing actually means a rough enough texture to lightly cut the surface of your skin. The reason people get zits is because your white blood cells are attacking foreign materials and organisms that have penetrated below your skin through our sweat glands (hence why most other animals don't get zits like we do). This is also why zits are white, white blood cells in high concentration. So when you "exfoliate" You are really just giving bacteria an easy entry point into your skin. Not worth it.
I would vouch against products that /u/Justin620 is talking about later (like "herb-mint" facial, I've found scant academic journal evidence that any facial does anything, or anything that results in a positive "youthful" appearance, something may increase the moisture retention in the skin for thirty minutes, but it may also reduce the elasticity of skin, making it look jolted and un-youthful). Because the US doesn't regulate personal health care products, using exotic products, or products that you don't normally use outside your normal regiment may have adverse effects. Case and point, the recent Crest case, and chemicals that increase sun sensitivity put in special shampoos, moisturizers and conditioners that cause skin problems when used before direct sun exposure. Any strange products that Justin, or others recommend you should talk to your dermatologist or other personal doctor first before trying, they can tell you what is actually in that product, whether it actually helps you and whether you are safe using it.
Bonus: heres an explanation of the bullshitty-ness of moisturizers, who knew when you put water on your skin with a coating of grease it stayed there? /s
Also note when you see "anti aging" in a product, it is typically just a moisturizer, in the US at least, there is no official terminology for anti aging, so advertisers are allowed to use the term ambiguously.
I did this kind of shit before I had kids. Now, ain't nobody got time for that. I'm lucky of I get a shower every third day. And that shower is taken with the ultimate speed because one of the three rugrats is doing something wrong.
So many things about this are actually really bad for you in the long-term, even if it provides you with satisfying short-term results. I highly recommend going to /r/skincareaddiction for advice on adjusting your routine to something less harsh.
SUNSCREEN. please wear a sunscreen. It sounds like you take great care of yourself, but a sunscreen will make so much difference in the future, helping to reduce wrinkles, chance of cancer.
Or you know....don't be a bitch and get the fuck to the gym. Way easier said than done though...it took me years and achieving a fully developed brain (Age 25) to grasp this concept. 9 weeks of going 3-5 times a week now! I'm starting to look pretty good. Got a ways to go though!
Bodyweight exercise is totally a viable option. You won't get super built, but you can definitely get hard. I always found going to the gym and working out for an hour a big hassle and super boring. Doing stuff throughout the day whenever I feel like it works way better for me.
I used to have problems with boredom at the gym, but now I either go with people and I'm never bored or if I'm alone I listen to pumped up music and that helps me a ton. I go for 2 hours 3-5 times a week now. I started 170lbs with a fat belly and now I'm 178 with a small belly. I had a horrible skinny guy-dad bod going and it had to go especially being only 26. I'm selling myself short if I don't allow myself to have my body looking good while I'm young. I also wanted to feel better about myself and just in general.
Sponjah ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:07:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you, but you sound like a GNC store clerk.
I've never found a table that made this comfortable, but let-me-ups are indeed a great reverse pushup! You just have to find the right railing, or a pair of parallel bars where you can put your feet up on something.
Probably a good idea. If you've got questions about calisthenic exercises like pullups, and training, pop by /r/bodyweightfitness. They're a helpful bunch.
Hyoscine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you should. But a pull-heavy physique is probably more generally attractive, with regard to posture, which is what this thread is about. Also less likely to cause issues with your shoulder tendons.
For pushups, bodyweight rows are good. The best way to think of it is movements, so pushups are horizontal pushes, balance them with a horizontal pull. Work in a vertical pull & push and leg work and you have a full body workout.
Yup, totally serious. Why work only half the muscles in your arms and torso? A strong back is important for daily living, and biceps look good, yeah? So do some pull-ups or rows.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
truth has been spoken.
this is actually a problem with most workout programs. people neglect the 1:2 push to pull ratio a lot.
Some strength coaches recommend this technique as a good way to build a balanced physique. The bench press is a push movement - you move weight away from your body - while something like a row is a push movement.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
an optimal push pull ratio is 1:2 which means for every push exercise (like bench press, OHP etc.) you need to have two pull exercises (like rows, pull ups etc.) to balance it.
This is not just a loose recommandation.. it is important for long term joint health. Save shoulders and elbows by not neglecting it!
There is also the option to balance it by volume because in my first example one assumes the same amount of sets or roughly the same volume per exercise. If you want to balance it with volume you could do it like: 3 sets of Bench Press and 6 Sets of Rows.
I prefer to balance it by using both ways.
Generally you should go with the 1st way and follow up with the 2nd if necessary. Band pull aparts are a good daily exercise to help with the balance.
Get under a chair, grab on and lift yourself a bit, using your legs/lower body to make it easier/harder as you need. Not perfect but it gets the basic job done.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To further your point, for anyone wondering what a reasonable pulling exercise could be, try overhand chin ups.
Bent over rows are a decent accessory pulling exercise. Make sure not to round your back though. Otherwise laying rows using a solid table work very well.
Sure, as another poster said, bent over rows! But your back can get pretty strong pretty fast, so make sure your dumbells are heavy enough to make it a challenge.
Maybe a little. I practice with a bent left elbow (holding the bow) and my right arm is never straight during the draw, so it's probably not as imbalanced as you might think.
Right, but your left arm is working to keep from bending (working triceps mainly) and your right is working to stay bent (biceps mainly) so your arms may be unbalanced. It should be good on the back and shoulders though.
I have, but it wasn't recently, and I never got good at it :P
It just seems like since its an asymmetrical position, it's likely to have some associated imbalance, so I wanted to bring it up. I'm sure you can judge better.
It is an asymmetrical position. You're right there, but the actual muscle strain is pretty symmetrical on the back. I just went and tried it....less symmetrical in the shoulders though.
So given I was talking about balancing pecs, this is a pretty good way to. :P
There's no can about it, they ARE. Solution? get a chepa set of dumbells and a pull up bar.
Sit ups, push ups, pull ups and you can do dumb bell squats. For ~ ยฃ35 you can do a full work out at home that is easy to expand on without really buying anything extra. Can add bicep curls, and any number of shoulder exercises.
The muscles you use to push also pull your shoulders forward and rotate your arms in (so your thumbs face your body instead of your palms). If they get much stronger than the muscles in your back that perform the opposite functions, it can result in a resting posture with shoulders forward, back hunched or rounded, and elbows pointing out. Another poster described it as "like a gorilla ".
Ah, okay, good to know. So what exercise counters that?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:48 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not bad to do an exercise or two of pushups and not back. However, Its bad for your posture if you do lots of pushups/other chest exercises and very little back. This is because your chest muscles will become over developed and back muscles under developed. So your chest muscles will pull on your shoulder more than your back and your shoulders will be pulled forward. Same goes for all muscles, when you develop one muscle you want to develop its antagonist (opposite). i.e. bicep/tricep abs/lower back calf/tibialis anterior and so on.
True that. Screwed up my hunchback way worse while working towards the 100 push-ups in one go routine to try to get pecs. Wound up looking like a gorilla.
Weighted pull-ups and weighted planks are one of the best to do for basic weightlifting, even if people have to start out on the lightest weights.
Lifting gets a LOT easier after you get comfortable on those with proper form
Very true. Tip to new gym goers: you have heard what a bench press is, you want to get it as high as possible. If you don't do an exercise such as a bent-over row (or some row varient) in 6 months your chest muscles will be way stronger then your back muscles, pulling your shoulders forward and giving your terrible ape-like posture.
Get in the habit as a newbie and you'll have a lifetime of regret free, balanced gains (bro).
Rows for the ho's. Benches for the wenches. But seriously though doing a push/pull superset e.g. Dumbbell press/ single arm row is a good way to build strength and keep body fat low.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, really? I used to do a ton of push-ups and nothing else back when I didn't have time to go to the gym regularly, maybe that's why my posture is so shit.
Yes! People don't realize that you need to balance yourself out if you're lifting. Otherwise you'll look stupid as fuck like that guy from Jersey Shore. Mike I think was his name
ahhter ยท 353 points ยท Posted at 19:06:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you elaborate as to why situps are bad? I haven't done any situps in awhile, mostly just the various crunches I learned while in martial arts. I'm just curious.
Supposedly they put pressure on your spine in a bad way. They're also using your core muscles to put yourself in an unnatural position (curled up) and it would be better to practice using them for what they're for, which is primarily stabilizing your body while you do things, hence planks.
Two years from now we're going to be told situps are good again and all the other things are bad.
Chuurp ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:36:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The people who actually study this stuff are almost never the ones jumping back and forth on what's good and bad. It's the people reporting on it, trying to make a story, or selling something.
Aleski ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 19:36:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm... not really. Anything that puts strain on your lower back is going to be bad for you.
po-handz ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:34:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cefriano ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:07:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a nice gym routine for a while where I would start with 120 crunches. I now have pretty severe sciatica in both legs that makes it incredibly uncomfortable to sit for more than like 30 minutes at a time. No idea if the two things are connected (the overtime I was working at my desk job certainly didn't do me any favors), but damn I wish I had seen this comment sooner.
I'm sure your injury and situation are far different from mine, but what cured my sciatica was deadlift. With almost zero weight at first, just finding the way to move that didn't hurt, I repatterned the muscles. The nerve pain that would cause me to seize up was my body saying "whoa! joint very unstable! do everything possible to keep it from slipping out!" It was a false signal, of course, my body just wasn't getting any nerve signals from the muscles that are supposed to stabilize the sacroiliac joint, and the ones it had been using had been strained beyond their ability to cope.
I know most sciatica goes away on its own in six weeks, but I really credit the deadlift because I experimented several times: every day off, it would get worse instead of better, every day I went to the weight room and painstakingly exercised it would get better. Even though it took me several stages of contorting myself just to sit down on the bench.
cefriano ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, that's what's kinda weird about mine. There's no action that makes it get sharply worse; it just sort of gets gradually worse throughout the day. This has made physical therapy pretty challenging, since my therapist will have me move different ways and will push on parts of my back to see if anything makes it worse, but nothing really changes when he moves things and since I do my therapy in the morning, it's very mild and hard to give feedback. It used to be so bad at the end of the day that it felt like there was a hot metal wire coiled around my leg all the way down to my foot. Now, my butt and the bottoms of my thighs just feel gradually more and more prickly until it feels like I'm sitting on needles. And unfortunately, mine hasn't gone away after almost six months (I waited a stupidly long time to start therapy, because I thought the leg pain was due to something else).
My therapist says a lot of my back and leg muscles are pretty tight, so right now I'm trying to roll everything out twice a day. We'll see if that helps. But unfortunately I don't think it's a lack of strength in those muscles that's causing the issue, as deadlifts were also a regular part of my gym routine.
Well, it's possible to deadlift using only your quads and spinal erectors if you do it wrong. The muscles I needed to learn to use were weird hip ones like the piriformis and gluteus medius, normally your body recruits those as needed but I had to have the pain as a tutor to show me I wasn't using them.
Before figuring this out I just avoided the issue by always using my computer lying down flat on the floor.
osqer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which part of lower back? Does this mean bicycles are super bad since there is minimized weight on upper body and legs and it's all focused on your back? A cushion underneath makes the weight acceptable right?
Can you explain? This really sounds counterintuitive.
Aleski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not an expert, but posture matters. Basically, you want your muscles doing the work, nothing else. That's why you're always told not to round your back when picking things up off the floor.
Um, I'm kinda bad at explaining this, there are others who would do better than myself.
Depends on form. They way you lift something heavy will strain different parts of your body. You don't want to strain your lower back because of the problems it can cause, e.g. slipped discs, chronic pain, etc.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:47:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They've been telling us that sit-ups are bad at least since I was a kid, so 20+ years. I don't think that's going to change any time soon.
What has changed is the recommended replacement. When I was a kid, they told us to do crunches instead. Now the conventional wisdom seems to be heading in the direction of planks being a superior core exercise.
klethra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sincerely doubt it. The reason they're considered bad is because you can get a herniated disc, and the movement is almost useless compared to the alternatives. It's highly unlikely that hitting yourself in the hand with a hammer will be the next fad even though it's frowned on now.
Sasamus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another problem with both sit-ups and planks are that they can not be progressed without weights and/or simply doing them for longer.
None of which are optimal. Weights are cumbersome if not using a vest and doing them for longer will mostly just train endurance, if you want to get stronger that will plateau fairly quickly.
L-sits and it's progressions are usually recommended and those progressions will last a lot longer until weights will be needed.
I can't say for sure, or explain why, but the fitness community seems to be kinda down on crunches as well. At least the kind you do lying on your back. But cable crunches (where you kneel and hold a cable machine's handle behind your neck and crunch downward) are kinda in vogue.
Really, if you want to do some general fitness things with a focus on core strength, I'd say do Yoga.
I was told that if you must do sit-ups, grab your ears. It'll keep you from yanking on your neck while putting your arms in the generic "sit-up" position.
Personally I use a sit up bench so you're not curled up in such an unnatural position. Worked wonders for me after regular use!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:11:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently crunches are better than sit-ups though, since you can focus more on bringing your legs to your chest rather than bringing your body up to your knees. Less movement on the back and all that. There are other workouts that hit the core and don't involve the back much though.
sosern ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:15:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whichever, point is just do something. But to be fair I have actually heard the same and your recco is probably gonna save at least one begginers lower back
There's a difference between progress pain and injury pain. I'm not there nor an expert so it would be irresponsible to just say "work through it".... If you have the $ maybe get one session with a personal trainer to work through form or a Pilates or yoga class could help and Groupon I practically giving those away.
Also www.bodybuilding.com is the most amazing free resource I've ever seen for any endeavour.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out the site I linked and look into some beginner routines. Be very very very sure to stretch (beginners and experts alike miss this) and be sure to focus on diet and drink water too.
No better feeling than waking up stronger. I promise you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm post injury myself and plan on getting back into it too - if you ever wanna bounce progress or frustrations off someone, friend me here and we can do that.
The shaking can be a couple of things. First, it's possible you have weak stabilizer muscles and they are literally shaking under the weight (which is good, since they are being worked hard, thus getting stronger). Second, it could be a CNS response to the workout. I've been consistently benchpressing for a while now but I still get shaking whenever I do it, even on not very heavy weight. It's just your CNS responding to the load on your body. (Why it happens, I'm not sure...maybe the shaking somehow balances the load on your muscles or something, but now we're venturing into broscience territory). Supposedly if it is the CNS issue, it will go away after a while but I have not yet found this to be true.
If you have back problems (like me), lay on your back, bend your knees so your feet are flat on the floor and push up on your feet and raise your butt. It works your abs, front of thighs and butt without hurting your back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the exercises that I did to strengthen my core to support my back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sit-ups might not be great, but doing something is better than nothing
solzhen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a puss snd join a yoga group. Great for core, posture, back, joints, everything. All needed to add for total fitness is some cardio and a little strength training.
Yoga and Pilates should be an intro, if not regular part of excersice routine
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well just go do body weight squats and heavy deadlift.
Dorocche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now what are those?
tvp61196 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are situps bad?
buckyddd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
leg lifts and situps with straight legs work your hip flexors more than your abs. Most people already have tight hip flexors from sitting for hours which results in anterior pelvic tilt and your lower back shifting forward (your belly protrudes forward). Doing those exercises makes this problem worse.
Griitt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a right and wrong way to do sit ups. The right way is really more of a crunch (I pretty much think of both as equivalent). Either way, leg lifts are better. However, I find I can never actually get a workout from planks; it takes so long, and my arms tend to get sore just from the pressure. Any advice for that?
So I just switched out sit-ups for leg raises in my little workout routine I do at home. Are they supposed to work the obliques at the top of my legs as well? On my first 40 it seemed like it was all on my core, but the last set of 20 it seemed like my obliques were taking a lot of the strain. Just wondering if anyone can say whether this is normal or whether I was losing my form.
For the record I was following these instructions, and doing them with straight legs.
Planks and leg lifts are good but sit-ups are more effective, and they're only "bad" when done wrong. That being said decline sit-ups and crunches are a lot more effective, but also harder. Also try Bicycle Crunches, they work all of the frontal abs.
I might look into the skin care & workout. I knew physical activity was important, but maybe just a little exercise would go further than I assumed. And I work in fast food, so the skin care is probably much needed.
For workout, I like to do short, intense workouts. Good if you're busy and don't want to spend much time exercising, but still get great benefits. I just look up HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) online, there's lots of great free videos. Many you can do at home w/o any equipment. Even if you only do 15 minutes (esp if you aren't currently very active), you're going to feel it.
I love it. I recently started that because moved to a small town w/ lame gyms. I never used to be a fan of working out at home. But, I've really gotten into it lately. I did invest in a few sets of hand weights (lighter weights are good for HIIT). And, a kettle ball. But, usually I'll google something like "20 minute HIIT no equipment" and find good stuff. I'll PM you a couple of my favorites. It's good to mix it up w/ different routines. I get bored really easily, so something like this is perfect for me. I don't know people can run on a treadmill for 20+ minutes. My husband does that. But, whatever exercise you enjoy is the best exercise for you.
Afrood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your goal is to fix your posture, 2-5 minute stretches once in a while is fucking magic. Lots of good stretches out there depending on your problem.
Sped21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've learned over the last few years that nobody gives a shit what you have to say, just what they do. Learning how to keep yourself and the other person active in a conversation is an artform.
For abs try leg raises. Lie on the floor (or bed or yoga mat if you have one) and raise your legs as close to 90ยฐ as you can. Slowly. Too hard? Bend leg at knee. Too easy? Find something to hang off (pull up bar, tree branch, really tall and strong guys arm) and perform the same exercise, albeit rotated 90ยฐ.
In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
felesroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a single bar of non-branded soap and I don't own any moisturizer. It's like we live at two ends of a spectrum.
Conversations are like golf: it's all in the approach.
That and "the right time and the right audience makes it hard to say the wrong thing" - Adolf Hitler (not really though, but my point is that with those things in focus its hard to be a "prick")
21, was on accutane, skin is still bad. Washing my face causes my skin to peel badly (even with moisturizer). So break outs or facial rashes. Hard to choose
But know what? I respect the guy that falls on the ground after two more than the guy who won't get on the ground to try
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. Most men severely underrate the effects of proper skincare. I started a few months ago, went beyond twice a day washing my face and putting lotion, and my skin hasn't been as nice; dark circles are way paler, no more random acne (if I do, it is only one).
Simply moisturizing in the AM gets rid of that 'gray, dull' look most people's skin has that they don't even notice.
It's crazy how many men don't take skincare seriously... Like guys; we have hair sprout from there that either sits and collects grub, grime and shedding skin cells OR we spend a portion of our time dragging razors and clippers across it -- we NEED that tlc on our skin
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do slightly disagree with the x-challenges thing though; yes, it's useless if you start and end there but the thing that got me into the gym to begin with was a "300" challenge I had at work -- whoever could plank for 300 seconds won.
I won. But to be fair I did change positions at least twice (one arm up, next arm up, leg up, side, etc) stayed in plank though
Sunscreen is vital! I have a complexion that doesn't necessarily receive or show too much sun damage so I don't use it (and thus didn't list it) but this is so key.
Most people with a posture problem are arching forward. Only doing pushups and situps will disproportionately develop your front muscles, exasperating the problem.
I don't mean "pretend everything is fine all the time" but don't let yourself engage in - or especially start - that low-level bitching that so quickly becomes a habit. Try and find something positive to say if you're struggling to make conversation, and if you can't then express your opinion plainly. Don't talk about being annoyed by something, talk about being disappointed. Don't be the person who is always tearing stuff down.
I cannot tell you how unattractive it is when somebody around you whines or is negative a lot, and once someone notices you're doing it, they can't un-notice. Also people will stop wanting to be open and honest about how they feel about something around you in case you're negative about it.
If all you have in common with someone is a love of putting stuff down and complaining about things then one day in the future you'll realise that the only thing left you haven't yet complained about in detail is each other and then the real unhappiness will start.
Don't criticize or complain is the first piece of advice from How to Win Friends and Influence People
It is amazing advice!
-Rixi ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 19:49:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this book. It really works wonders.
uriman ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 20:59:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, but the advice seemed a lot of wishy-washy back patting. Seems to go in line with Buffet and Trump saying everyone who works for them is "doing a great job" yada yada yada.
I think it depends if you really agree with what the book is saying. If you just use the things they say to do because you desire the final result, you're essentially just going through the motions.
What the book is saying, is to be a person who is genuinely interested in people, be positive etc and people will naturally be drawn to you. Do it for yourself, don't do it just to make people like you
Be a person that can't not be liked, don't try to make people like you
Yeah I think the guy above missed the point of the book. It's about taking a genuine interest in people and their concerns, not faking a genuine interest in peopleand their concerns
It's easily overlooked at how powerful it is to be genuinely interested and curious about people. Every person is a hub of experience and attained knowledge since the day they were born. They'll genuinely have different perspectives, have varied hobbies and interests and also concerns.
If you can know one or two things in whatever area is current in their minds and/or lives from each person you meet - you'll benefit yourself from taking that piece of wisdom in a matter of seconds from someone who has lived it.
It sounds simplistic but it is also literally the only way to accomplish anything.
If you want something in life, work hard to become somebody who deserves it. You may still not get the thing, because life is super unfair. But you'll have much better chances.
That's part of it. But in general it's also a big list of advice for how to present oneself.....in 1936. You can cherry pick some good stuff from it. But in general I think anyone actually following it today would be pretty offputting.
Cianalas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:26:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seconding this. I had a friend who I happened to know was reading this book and everyone around him was painfully aware of it when he kept trying use it's advice in the real world. He just came off super manipulative and awkward. Its still worth reading but with quite a few grains of salt.
Some people read a book and it becomes gospel to them for a period. That's not the book, that's the person.
Vleda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you want to make people go away? I think I'm a dick and I'm generally pretty blunt but it seems to make people want to open up to me for some reason. Stupid humans, ogre want less talking and more doing things. Things with the stuff. Stuff good~.
Because people who are blunt tend to be honest. It is easier to trust someone who says things the way they are than to believe someone who constantly sugar coats things
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then maybe they shouldn't title the book How to Win Friends and Influence People.
Whenever I hear this book mentioned, I think about how this is the book that Charles Manson studied in prison and helped him become such a master manipulator.
I'M NOT SAYING THIS BOOK WILL TURN YOU INTO CHARLES MANSON. I'm just saying the two are forever connected in my mind so the book creeps me out a little.
I actually just got this book. Do you really think it's worth a read?
I actually used to be an extremely positive person when I was younger, but I find myself becoming more cynical in my thoughts everyday, which genuinely frightens me.
-Rixi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I highly recommend it. This book was a life changer for me. I was very negative and disliked people when I was younger, mainly because I couldn't understand why they didn't enjoy my company (Yes, it was a vicious cycle). After reading the book, I made more friends than I ever thought I could. I love being with people now. Many of the principles are explained through lengthy anecdotes, but you can just read the main topics if you decide not to read the entire book (it would still be beneficial).
Edit: I forgot to mention that this book has made my life a happier one. I hope it will dispel any pessimism in yours too!
Ha I literally thought of this as soon as I read your parent comment.
I've read a chapter of that book every day for the past year and I will for the rest of my life, you'll never not need to reread a chapter in that book if only to help remind you why you're doing those things as principle in the first place.
I truly believe people could benefit from picking this book up and reading a chapter every day, then when the book is done start over again. It never won't be relevant to your life and what you have going on.
15 days makes a habit, I already read every day and the chapters so are short so I'll stick it in front of whatever I'm reading and knock it out first.
I wish my dad would read and heed this book, sadly unless it was written centuries ago and about Jesus, he's not interested.
Right now he's going through a rough patch after my mom left him. Now all he does is bitch, complain, and be a giant ball of negativity. He then gets upset and wonders why nobody wants to be around him or answer his calls.
detmoose ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:39:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Call him back! Even if he's set in his ways and only complains, he needs some positive influence in his life. Plus getting a call from his kid would make his day I'm sure.
Sometimes I audit my Facebook to try and work out if I am being too negative- I usually do okayish, with the occasional monthly explosion like when I get ripped off by the bank (โฌ100 in fees, whaaa?).
OTOH, when I look for someone to collaborate with on a film I get scared off by repeated bitchy vaguebooking about people who offended them in the tiniest of ways... I do NOT want to be the director being bitched about in a few weeks because the food on set was cold or something.
Looking back at FB's version of timehop has shown me just how petty, annoying, compliment-fishing, and vaguebooking I was as a young adult. I don't know exactly when a change happened but I know it was influenced by reading comments on sites like Sixbillionsecrets that shouted some common sense and critique into the whiniest of posts.
I think everyone has a manipulative friend who thinks he's a genius for having read this book haha.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:39:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously you can use influence to manipulate people, but I think the book just lets you know how to be a nice and genuine person that people naturally like. At that point it's up to the reader to decide how they want to use that knowledge.
Currently reading the book now and I definitely don't see it as manipulative. It's more about being more self aware of your own habits and actions and developing better ones for the people around you.
I already do those stuff at least most of them, and I'm not bragging, but people should realize this over-time. My weak point is remembering people's name. At the same time, I like when people are themselves, hopefully people don't be out of their element or uncomfortable when following these guidelines.
rmphys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know for a lot of people (myself included) some of these are not the way we are naturally. The most simple example is smiling. I will smile if something is funny or fun, but otherwise my generic face is closer to a frown (not quite a bitchy resting face though). I honestly feel extremely self-conscious smiling at people. Although I do a few of the others naturally.
I know for a lot of people (myself included) some of these are not the way we are naturally.
I realize that but some of the most fundamental points can be taken naturally or from moral points of your culture,religion, parents and school.
The most simple example is smiling. I will smile if something is funny or fun, but otherwise my generic face is closer to a frown (not quite a bitchy resting face though). I honestly feel extremely self-conscious smiling at people. Although I do a few of the others naturally.
I have bad teeth and since 4th grade I had a half tooth till my age of 20, and still I can't stop smiling sometimes, I always smile with people.
That's a very uninformed thing to say about the book. If you could sum it up in one sentence it would be: "Here's how a nice person behaves, try to be like this." It's basically a Jedi's diplomacy guidebook, not a manipulation manifesto like the 48 laws.
Missed the tone of the text. It's clearly a joke since obviously that wasn't the title, but it still implies, not jokingly, that the book has something negative about it.
Seriously, if anyone here thinks "Win Friends" is about manipulation, read only the chapters in "48 Laws of Power", I guarantee that you'll puke. Actually, here's a link: http://home.earthlink.net/~denmartin/flp.html
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's book about a way to improve oneself not manipulate others. I have loads of other books with instructions on how to use psychological triggers to manipulate people. So far this one is nothing like them. It's unfortunate about your "friend".
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Influence the psychology of persuasion by Robert B Cialdini. It's a national best seller with psychological triggers your friend can play with. Read it yourself so you can be aware of those triggers within yourself.
I can't recommend the rest as I haven't completed them yet, but I have a small stack of social engineering books and my goal for my next read is The Crowd by Gustov Le Bon.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:16:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read the first few chapters, but I was borrowing it from my boss at a job I ended up quitting so I gave it back. Really wish I had finished it.
It's really not about manipulating people, at least from what I gleaned in the short time I read it. It's basically just social and conversational cues that make you more approachable. Stuff that engages other people in conversation. People are naturally drawn to you when you genuinely value what they have to say. Now, this is where assholes can manipulate that to only make it appear as such, but that's definitely not what the book teaches.
The book is basically just like, don't be an asshole. Actually listen to the shit people are saying to you.
sludj5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it Charles Manson? He literally used that book to manipulate people (or so he claims).
sludj5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it Charles Manson? He literally used that book to manipulate people (or so he claims).
Gin4NY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I would agree with this only partially. I suppose it depends on what conversations you have with your friends. If you never criticize or complain about anything I'd imagine people would assume that you may be boring because you don't have opinions about anything. But then again I haven't read the book so forgive me if it's addressed later on. I am assuming the book is talking about complaining and criticisms rather than debates.
It tells stories about historical figures like President Lincoln, and quotes. Then it explains the difference. I tried condencing a chapter in to a couple sentences. You should check with your local library, and see if you can find a copy to look over. It'll be easier to understand than trying to get me to rephrase everything.
Bluffz2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That book is amazing. I have 2 more chapters left, but there's a 100% chance I'll do a re-read.
A coworker and I read this together, and while learning that first rule, whenever we caught each other complaining, we would listen and then simply say "what are you going to do about it?"
Why do you like it, what is nice about it? My instructor taught us the BPURE concept with art. Balance, proportion, unity, rhythm and emphasis; if you like some art try pointing out exactly what you liked.
Positive reinforcement apparently has longer lasting effects than that of negative reinforcement. As the positive aspects you point out will be preserved, and added to over time. While anything negative you say will be resented, and discarded after you leave.
At least that's the idea.
Edit: Paragraph format.
bstix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The book is called "How to win friends and influence" not "How to make constructive criticism".
It's not about anyone getting better.
Btw I really like your username.
stufff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Anyone who would do this is useless to me. I had a paralegal for a while who would make a game out of relentlessly and publicly criticizing any grammar or punctuation errors he found in documents I drafted. Kept me on my game and years after I left that firm I'm still friends with him. My engineer friends are always suggesting better ways to do things.
People who can't take our won't give criticism can fuck right off while the rest of us get shit done.
People who don't give criticism are "panderers". These are people that hate to have a contrary opinion.
RiPont ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the pieces of advice in that book is "people like hearing their own names."
Well, let's remember to adjust that for today's multi-cultural workplace. People do not like hearing their own names horribly butchered.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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RiPont ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing wrong about asking, but there are some syllables in other language you literally can't hear and can't pronounce unless you've had quite a lot of exposure.
If someone's name is spelled "Xkt'ntra" and they ask you to call them "Jim", it means they want you to call them "Jim" and not butcher their real name.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once corrected a teacher (politely) when she was talking attendance, and she just said "I don't care"
:(
Note: My last name is Irish, it's not that farfetched.
Very little, like next to nothing in all honesty. Despite college I don't feel very knowledgeable about much. In fact all my learning has seemed to do is point out how little I truly know.
I don't know about that book. After reading a bit of The 7 Habbits of Highly Effective People, it really makes How to Win Friends and Influence People look like a cheat sheet of how to trick people into liking you. If you haven't read 7 Habbits already, I'd recommend it. It focuses more on being a good person rather than just looking like one externally, although I could do without the religious parts.
So far I haven't picked up on only external presentation, and I thought this was intended for self improvement. I'll be sure to check out 7 habits though. I'm curious now.
I started reading the book and it's amazing. I really get the idea and I don't see any doubt in that. Execution is what difficult for me. I'm that type of person who is paranoid about something, for example I have dissertation topic which is going no where and I'm about to fail at it horribly. So until and unless I finish it the anxiety will not leave me and I end up complaining in front my friends and families.
HO-LY-SHIT THIS. I unfortunately had to learn this lesson the hard way.
I was doing this exchange with this one chick in Europe. She had that weird way of bonding with someone over how awful things were. At a restaurant: "This is ridiculous, the service here is awful." At a bakery: "These pastries are terrible." And she would expect the other person to nod their head in agreement and be like "omg totally we deserve better" and they would get this mutual satisfaction over it.
I made it a point to always counter her negativism with over the top positivity. Since then, that concept has transcended beyond this one person into my everyday life since then (and it's been ~5 years). Honestly, nothing is more unattractive than being a negative person, and you would be surprised how much people like being around positive people.
by no means did I have fun, or even like the Marine Corps. I have zero decals on my car or tattoos and bought a Toyota corolla in full after three years as a lance. I just wasn't part of the crowd that griped about all the shit all the time. I was the crew that got hammered with his buddies on weekends and spent most of my free time working out or playing xbox and minding my own shit. When you've been cleaning the laundry room for 5 hours the Corporal walks in for the third time looks around and couldn't find any dust. Then he looks at the broom and says spend an hour cleaning the broom now, there's dust on it. what did you do? freak out, cuss and whine or just shake your head and chuckle after he left about the retarded situation you put yourself in. I'm just the guy who laughs it off and keeps going. Tracks was a bullshit MOS, the friends I had who chose other MOS had a blast. I simply existed for my time. I wish I could go back and choose another one, proud of the Marines, not my job inside of it. Tracks try to act like the toughest motherfuckers around by hazing and treating each other like shit specifically 1833's but really either you scored really shittily on your asvab and were too much of a puss puss to be infantry or scored really high and didn't get armor.
How can you act/be genuinely happy when you feel like shit?
I'm quite an emotional person, so it's kinda hard for me to grasp. I can't avoid my negative emotions, because if I do that too much, I WILL become depressed.
don't avoid emotion just embrace them in a positive way, if you're sad go for a run and think about why you're sad, clean your house alone and think about how you ended up feeling pissed or sad an correct your behavior or correct the person who treated you incorrectly. If you're truly depressed because of something tragic seek help if you need it or ride it out. I honestly think being a life long learner helps with that. one time when i was kind of upset so I just figured out how a toilet worked 100% and now I can fix everything in the bathroom with a trip to home depot. I felt good because I accomplished something and have a skill. renovation up to dry wall are really interesting to me and kind of a hobby, I volunteer too, that can help a lot. doing something for someone else who's really happy that you're there and wants to talk to you is good. When they say people who are dicks are tiny people I imagine them like tiny people with little grappling hooks trying to bring me down and it's kind of hilarious to think about. deal with your feelings when you need to just do it in a way where you come out having either learned something about the world or yourself.
Kaden3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:38:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference though between being super positive and not being an asshole, they aren't strictly tied together. Like, generally, I'm not a super positive person, I enjoy dark humor, and I'd say my outlook on life is closer to being pragmatic than being optimistic. On the other hand, I can deal with people who are optimistic and positive, and I have several friends that are like that. The annoying part is when it gets to an extreme, and they aren't even necessarily being fake. Sometimes it just gets annoying to deal with someone who never seems to express a negative outlook.
marsepic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really care to be bubbly and positive, but I do make a point to be kind and say something nice. People get addicted to criticizing, they think they're the goddamn Batman of whatever and can't turn it off.
This. Overly happy people are just as bad as complainers I think. There is a word for it where I live. Klรคmkรคck. I don't know what the translation that is overly happy/excited/positive in a very forced way.
RAA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then there's people that take "fake it till you become it" and embody it completely. Positivity enhances everyone's outer experience, and tends to assist one's inner turmoil too.
Okay, but complaints have thier place in society; they can facilitate change every once in awhile. If your waiter is being a shitty waiter maybe they aren't aware of it. I'd say most complaints are just a complainers way to make a wrongdoer(or others, if it's gossip) aware of the wrongdoings.
A lot of positive people myself tend to do a few things, - if we like something we say so, if we don't we either a) say nothing or b)try to rationalize why or how it didn't go as plan, and if possible try to spin the options. B is usually the stickler but as a personal example - Went camping and was getting completely rained out, I told myself i should've looked at the weather forecast more closely, and created a nice fire in a nearby cookhouse to play cards and drinking games, our negative friend complained for 6 hours before coming with an excuse to leave. I probably sounded like a fake super positive person to them, but for me I was making the best of the situation.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And those people tend to be negative people. everyone rants, but some don't know how to do nothing else - There is a bit of running joke of asking how bad this one person's day is, I honestly think her happiest was an 'i'm okay ....' . I just nod my head (what they want) and, when i can, remove myself from their [usually] toxic environment.
heyreech ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:27:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
on some level I 100% agree with this. But on the same note, when I do force myself to be positive it's easier to see the good things in this world and life seems a bit less miserable.
I've known a few fake-nice people who do it to maintain a public image. If you were to just chat with them however, they might start gossipping or something.
I do give benefit of the doubt though, as everyone has sides. To be perfectly happy all the time and shut out everything negative isn't healthy.
I always just opted for positive attitude because being negative about a situation just makes the people around you not so happy either. Plus it wasn't fun being negative all the time. Went through that in middle school and I absolutely hated almost everything in middle school. Didn't get out of that funk until the end of high achool, which was too late for me. College was a lot better as I got new geoupanof n people to hang out with.
You don't have to like everything to not criticize things. You can just choose not to talk about the things you don't like, and only focus on the things you're positive about.
Of course, and I know a few people like that and they are great to be around.
But then there are the "fake" people I'm talking about who some how LOVE EVERYTHING!! They love your ugly shirt and the mangy dog. Rather than just not mentioning the shirt or the dog.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It feels good when others share your likes or dislikes
karayna ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. I've had false, backstabbing friends who suddenly turned into the most positive, happy and friendly people in the world... they're so sweet that they make sugar melt. And my spider sense is tingling... no, burning... I don't trust them at all, because even their voices seem so fake when you know how they used to be. Yet they make new friends all the time...
Maybe they changed? Seems like you're continuing to be negative.
karayna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone would think this. :) But no, I've gone from a rough period in my life when I indeed was negative, to having a way better outlook on everything (still trying to improve myself every day). The people I'm talking about are almost creepy in the way they act and "sell themselves". I do know genuinely positive people, and they're a lot more "natural" in their body language, speech pattern and wording. You know it when you see it! :)
jlking3 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:36:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When your life experiences don't give you many positive experiences to work with, you become negative.
You end up withdrawing because things are so awful and you know you bring people down and lose friends.
It would be nice to have consistent positive experiences that could then be used to counter the negative, but those are usually too expensive, or the people that could help make that happen aren't interested in doing that.
When I've tried to "Fake it til I make it" it doesnt seem to work because i know i'm lying to myself. It's like this: telling myself I got an A on a paper when I failed it doesn't help me feel better about the grade, nor does it turn that F into an A.
So now I'm in a position that whatever I say or do always seems to turn out to be the wrong thing or the wrong time or the wrong place or to/with the wrong person. And if I choose to do nothing, that's wrong too.
It's very hard to start to be positive when every objective criteria is pulling you down. And when the best thing you can come up with to boost yourself for the day is that you took a shower without crying, that's not really helpful as a foundation.
I've disappointed myself and everyone around me and I continue to do so. I accept that it is completely my fault and every bad thing that happens around me is because of poor judgement on my part or mistakes made that cannot be forgiven or undone. For example: when the soda machine takes my money, there was something I must have done to make it fail. When my car breaks down, it was because I wasn't driving it properly or I didn't have a certain procedure done at a certain time by a certain mechanic. When I am rejected online, it is because i didn't choose to lose weight in my 30s or waited too long in my teens to get treated for acne.
I must be perfect at all times to even have a chance for people to accept me--any mistake I make will be considered a dealbreaker, whether at work, or socially, and since I cannot be perfect and I will always make mistakes I have to accept that I will not be accepted.
Everything I do ends up hurting myself or hurting someone else. So it's better for me not to do anything at all. And of course, that's bad, too, but since I accept that everything I do is bad, it's a matter of trying to find the action that hurts others the least. Which usually means choosing the action that hurts me personally the most.
It's been this way for at least 35 years. One day it will be over and i will be at peace. until then, i try to numb the hurt inside and try not to show it too much.
Okay, so if you're not talking to a health professional about depression/dysthymia and getting treatment, you need to be. I'm absolutely serious. You don't have to suffer like that.
You might find this reddit comment about cognitive distortions to be insightful.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Screw the Bullshit feel good shit, just know only you can take the initiative. That initiative is just waiting for your go response. Also check your vitamin levels and any sign of inflammation in the body
Individual brain chemistry/biology certainly plays a significant role in baseline happiness levels. However, I find it hard to believe you (or most people, for that matter) have maximized your biological potential.
This, for example, is evidence of a less than ideal internal monologue:
I must be perfect at all times to even have a chance for people to accept me
This just can't be objectively true... interpersonal relationships and human nature don't work like that. A first step toward self-improvement might be to at least qualify it (i.e. "almost perfect most of the time for some people" rather than "I must be perfect at all times").
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:24:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Second and the last sentences talk to me on a higher level. I completely relate to your text. Some day, it will all be ok
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes the bad shit that happens to you couldn't have been prevented in any way and it's not your fault. It just happened.
Life isn't fair.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:43:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't you just run away from your current country and start fresh in a new one, like mexico or another country where they don't speak english? Get a job there and work your way up. It's a complete reset.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:43:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't you just run away from your current country and start fresh in a new one, like mexico or another country where they don't speak english? Get a job there and work your way up. It's a complete reset.
I think a lot of it is simply learning to not nitpick, and to mask being negative in prettier language.
First, if something is generally good, avoid commenting on how it could be better unless prompted. Let's pretend you just saw a movie that you felt was worth the $15 bucks you spent to get in. Avoid pointing out how in that one scene there was a guy wearing a pair of Nike's made in 2014 when it was supposed to be 1998. It's annoying if you do it too much. Focus first on what was good about the movie, and then the little nitpick is more of a cool observation than the constant downer.
Second, if the movie was NOT worth the money, say so using pretty words. Don't use absolutes. Instead of saying that movie sucked or I thought that movie was terrible, say that you didn't enjoy it, or that you thought it wasn't well made. You're saying the same thing either way, but one uses negative words like suck and terrible and the other use positive words like enjoy and well made. It makes a difference in the way people perceive what you say. Putting a not in front of a positive word also makes it easier to agree with you, which people want to do anyway, by making it a more neutral statement. If you say it wasn't well made, I don't have to think it was BAD, just not GREAT.
This stuff won't make you a positive person, but it will make your negativity less irritating to people who are annoyed by it. Positive people aren't really always positive either; it's often just a trick to stay happy. If I don't like the food at a restaurant, I may comment that the service is good or the decor is nice. I won't pretend that the food is good, it's not, it tastes like shit, but I will try to find things I DO like so that I don't get into a funk, which is something I'm inclined to do.
There's a difference between other people being positive versus assholes trying to silver lining you. Those guys are jerks.
I.e
You: I'm sad my dog just died.
Asshole: Well I'm sure they are better off now they were probably in a lot of pain.
Feel free to hate those people its not you its them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean "People who are always positive aren't your thing" right? :)
I'm negative about a lot of things, the problem is that I'm not actually mad or anything, people just misinterpret it. It honestly sucks because few people can relate. I don't want to sound like an arrogant prick, but I would seriously rather just call like I see it instead of essentially lying.
I can identify with this.
I'm not sullen and angry or mad or anything, I just have opinions that I apparently like to share. I'm very critical of everything (myself included) and I think that's what it is.
-del2phi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:47:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you can do it! I used to be a very negative person, which grew out of a sarcastic and caustic sense of humor. I started to dislike who I was becoming and was slowly able to recalibrate my perception and outlook to be more positive. Life is only as much as you make of it, so make it a good one.
I was you, it takes years and heavy motivation to change your outlook and your attitude. I began the change, managed to bag a partner who sees the best in everything and have been improving myself from there. Not for his sake, but his influence has helped. You just have to really focus on what kind of person you want to be. Then be brutally honest with yourself about whether or not you're living up to that. And don't give up on yourself. Everyday is a second chance.
snoharm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a boss threaten to fire me once because I was too positive.
I'm not even that upbeat a person, she was just such a negative whiner that I felt constantly compelled to point out how fucking fine we actually were.
greg9683 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It'll take a lot of proactivity, but try and remove a negative item every once in a while. So at the beginning it would be limiting it from your normal amount. I think that would work. Then it'll become a lot easier and require less thinking.
mxndx420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. When I come across someone like that it makes me think, are you insincere or just stupid? I don't trust people like that usually. Though, it depends, some relentlessly positive folks rub me the right way too, but more generally they're just full of shit.
The doesn't mean I'm constantly shitting on things, in all thing moderation amiright?
irving47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shift your hatred to those that deserve it... Like politicians and the writers of press releases. Examine the bullshit buzzwords and let the hate course through you... Then say something nice about my awesome glasses.
I think a big part of breaking that habit is to not speak the first thought that comes into your head. I have a friend that brags "oh I have no filter haha" no that just means you are an inconsiderate bitch. I am a big believer of listen more than you talk. This helps me take a moment and try to see the other persons point of view and find something good in it even if I don't agree with them. Example - "omg I love this song!" I could say "ugh country music sucks" or instead "oh I've never heard this song". Sometimes it is work, but getting dragged down into the negative all the time is exhausting.
I work for a motivational speaker, yes, constantly being and acting positive can be very annoying. It just feels unnatural that a person can look up all the time.
Haha.
My favorite "a pessimist is an optimist with experience".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genuinely don't know how to handle it when I literally hate my life and feel sick all the time. I know I've become a complainer, but my life is full time being physically sick and in pain and severely depressed. I don't like my own company either but I literally have nothing in my life to talk about because I'm too sick to do anything :( I don't know what to do. Suggestions welcome as long as they're not 'try this new hobby/do more things' I literally can't.
clon3man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I know how you feel. It's very demotivating to hear people excited about a bunch of activities when you know they are not a good fit for your life, at least "not yet". Your entourage sees this argument as "excuses" - they simply don't understand what it means to be unwilling to partake in high-energy, high-involvement activities, or even simple ones.
It's easy for this to become a spiral because whatever reasons you have to not want to go out and do shit, is often accompanied to other problems, financial, health, relationship etc. (when it rains it pours)
My best advice is "other people" often have no understanding of your suffering, even if they say they do. And they are quick to point out obvious, long-term, objective problems you have, and somehow tie that in to a present, subjective situation about you not wanting to do something. They say something like "well since you're not working , what else could you possibly have to do? C'mon man you gotta do something!". It's very difficult to brush these people away because they (a) often have better things going for them, (we look up to them) and (b) they make valid points about some, (but not all) of your problems.
You have to remain strong and not give in to activity/outing/hobby suggestions/ that you know have a low chance of bringing you any value. Just because you've made mistakes and you're in a rut doesn't give anyone the right to force you to "do something fun".
As for advice: Make a plan for how you want to fix your problems (including identifying problems you've decided not fix). Write that shit down. Track your progress. As soon as you feel like shit, or you feel as though you need a reason to dismiss someone's advice about how to live your life, refer to your plan and your progress. If someone's comment makes you feel like shit, channel that into working on YOUR PLAN that you know make sense, not THEIR PLAN. If someone makes a comment about my clothes, I'll use that energy to do more exercise, not buy better clothes. It's their insults, but it's my game.
As someone who uses complaining as a means to find solutions (I'll bitch about something quickly and probe for suggestions) I get mildly infuriated when someone complains about my complaining. Hey asswipe, I'm here at this venue to learn something and find solutions and motivation, not hear about how GREAT something is for hours on end. Someone who dismisses brief complaining isn't a positive person, they are an entitled , self-interested asshole. Just watch them later in the night on make the most obnoxious face at something and quickly push for a change of subject. But hey, they aren't negative! They never complain!
Honestly, nothing is more unattractive than being a negative person, and you would be surprised how much people like being around positive people.
Had a coworker for a number of years who was the most unpleasant woman to work with in my experience. She'd always talk about how horny she was, and how she bet she could make me cum with her "amazing" blow job skills even though I'm gay. She was always grumpy about something, and I quickly learned that if you were on her shit list, you didn't get off it, so I made sure I was pleasant with her. She got a different job and after a few months wondered why she hadn't heard from me at all after she quit. I told her she mistook my friendliness for being friends, and instantly she just starts insulting me and I'm like, "And this is why I haven't talked to you in months." And I blocked her number. Don't need that kind of negativity in my life any longer.
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:51:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She'd always talk about how horny she was, and how she bet she could make me cum with her "amazing" blow job skills even though I'm gay.
How the fuck is she allowed to say that to your face? Just because you are gay doesn't mean you shouldn't stand up for yourself. Imagine if it was man saying to a woman? Not trying to start a "whataboutism" but you get my point, I would at least complain to a manager or supervisor.
5arawr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:04:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the advice said not to be a complainer, silly.
Honestly, nothing is more unattractive than being a negative person, and you would be surprised how much people like being around positive people.
My only problem with this is positivity can turn cultish, at least in the workplace. I get sick of people telling me I'm "negative" when I point out all the issues at work - with the intention of fixing them. I've since learned "negative" just really means "calling me out on my shit work" and is a means to put those who actually do useful shit down. Nevermind the number of times my "negative feedback" would have saved hundreds of thousands of dollars and a customer outage, or the number of times my critical thinking saved us from the same fate... Just because I can spot problems does not make me negative, it's how you deal with them.
Like everything it goes both ways. Something approaching neutral is best. But for us folks that ignore the good because it's already good, and focus on the bad so we can improve it - we get shit on a lot no matter how "positive" you spin negative things - yet we are by far the largest force for positive change within any given group.
I think you probably have a communication issue here. Or perhaps you need to mix in some positive so you're not only pointing out the negatives. I point out things that are wrong at work all the time, and it's never been a bit of an issue. We fix it and move on, even if it's me that ends up doing the work to fix it. Of course, I also build up the same people when they do things right, so it's not just all knocking them down.
When I was much younger I used to bond with people in this way (by finding a mutual dislike of something) but I have since changed my tune. Perhaps I can provide some sort of insight in the glass-is-half-empty thought process at the time. Maybe my experience might be reflective of others who think in that way.
At the time it felt like one could bond more authentically with people who have shared some sort of mutual pain; that'd be our common link. Growing up as a surly teen the mutual dislike of school was the bridge to others who shared a similar angsty mindset. As a young man working a shitty retail job I bonded with the other angry clerks when we were mistreated by upper corporate management. Dealt a bad hand? I feel you brother! That isn't to say that it was my default state of mind; I don't think I was an insufferable bastard who was always a negative nelly. But sharing that mutual pain or injustice with others felt like the default means of experiencing something real genuine with someone else. Pain is not something that a person would fake. Pain felt really real.
In time I guess I got tired of being angry. Got older and experienced love. Sharing joy with friends. My world became less dark. I bond with people primarily on mutual interests now and things that bring joy. Life feels less heavy without that negativity. But I also understand those who try to connect through negativity because I had been there before.
I think a lot of people go through this phase in their teenage years. I know I did. I think part of it is just a way of dealing with getting to a point where you feel old enough to start having control over your life, but you still don't get to make your own decisions. So, we just criticized everything around us to make ourselves feel smarter and more mature than we actually were.
There's nothing wrong with complaining about bad service or food, it's the diction and delivery that matters.
As an example, compare: "Fuck this piece of horseshit restaurant! I've had more edible crap drop out my ass than what they serve here! And that waitress? Does she even see me waving at her? Not to mention her attitude, ugh" /snarl
to
"Dude I'm really let down by the service today. I thought this would be a good place because the reviews were mostly positive but this meat is overcooked and bland plus the waitress seems to be having an off day. Want to go somewhere else?"
If I don't like something what should I say then? If the food is actually terrible or the service sucks?
Some suggestions!!!
1) Does it? Does it really suck, or are you just looking for an outlet for your bad mood?
2) Consider whether you need to say anything at all. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". Obviously that's dumb advice to take universally, but some people need to hear it. Often negativity is more about wallowing or attention-seeking than solving a problem.
3) On occasions where criticism is warranted, that doesn't always mean a bad attitude is warranted. Just like you can "disagree without being disagreeable", it's possible to critical without being abrasive. Look for the constructive side.
I feel like people who are negative don't always want to realize that being negative is a selfish psychological release. We're not solving the world's problems - we just have emotions we feel a need to share. It's a lot like taking a massive dump: I get that you may need to do it every once in a while - everyone does and it feels good - but that doesn't mean that people want be there when it happens. It's about balancing your emotions with respect for the emotions of others.
I don't know about that, haha. I actually think a lot of this sort of thing is genetic - doesn't mean it can't be learned but I doubt I can give meaningful advice.
I guess in general I'm just a proponent of taking oneself and one's emotions less seriously, and taking other people more seriously. Like, trying to actively care less about what you are thinking and feeling, and actively care more about what other people are doing. I dunno, it's so easy to think that the entire Universe takes place in our own heads, I guess it just takes active effort to try and quiet that and focus on other people. Try to not give a shit whether things go well or go bad. Try to enjoy pain moments for the silver lining that comes with them. It's like any other discipline. Exercise is hard too, but the more you do it the more natural it feels.
Then again, I've been accused of not being in touch with my own emotions, so there's that.
Anyway good luck!
Thanks I think you out it best In a way I could understand it.
The idea of a group of people where one is being overly negative about anything and then someone else starts acting mockingly positive about everything but in a seemingly sincere way is just hilarious to me
Man, I'm talking to this girl, she would be perfect except it's always down right the harshest, most negative things come out of her mouth. "Oh this steak isn't rare", "oh he's the best, nothing anyone else does matters", "oh she's ugly", "oh I'm ugly". I try to tell her at least be positive. At least say something nice first. At least don't talk shit about what I like. Unfortunately she is hot and I want to be tap that all day and night. Cannot even converse with her anymore.
Be strong! She's probably has such a shitty personality cause no one ever calls her out on her bullshit in the first place. Maybe if you stand your ground and give her the business she'll respect you more.
Oh my god thank you for just the smallest insight. I think you're right. She is extremely firm in her beliefs. But I also know she surrounds herself with what one might call "hardass" dudes. All her friends are guys and she commonly refers to herself as a whore because she cares nothing for feelings because "they make people weak". I don't want her to think I'm some flimsy liberal treehugger guy. But feel free to keep talking :) I'd really love to hear about women.
she commonly refers to herself as a whore because she cares nothing for feelings because "they make people weak".
Sounds like a pretty sad person to be honest. My advice is to just stop worrying about what she might think about you altogether. If you're a liberal treehugger, or whatever, just do you without apologies. Don't be afraid to have an opinion she or anyone else doesn't like, or push back against bullshit (but always in a jovial way, not as a lecturing douche who needs everyone to feel the same way they do). Don't defer to her or her hardass friends. People enjoy interesting characters, who have a backbone, and they hate snivelers who fake a personality to ingratiate themselves to others. And there's no need to take her "I'm a whore / feelings don't matter" stuff seriously - those are the words of someone who has been hurt / is scared and is throwing up a wall around themselves. Ignore that stuff and try to connect with the real person underneath.
Honestly I have no idea if that will help, but as Miyamoto once said: "Cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them it doesn't always go so well." :P
Keep in mind that I'm just a random idiot on the internet and not like a love guru or anything.
I've always said that random advice and insight is what helps me best. I have intuition but no practicality in some areas. So treating her like I would anyone else and speaking to the sad person in her is good advice for me. Thank you sir, I was lost but now I am found in the world of this wild woman. Thanks random internet stranger
I thought I'd just reply to this again... I started talking to her like she was not some hardass and used a little of your advice. A couple days later, she tells me she wants to cuddle and that she's sad. God dammit this is why don't hate internet strangers. Thanks
Things went on for a while, the post patched up some things but she was just too harsh and cold and all she cared about was sex. Which was a surprisingly dirty feeling. Then she moved away and is fucking other dudes and dropping them as well.
See, I'm the opposite. My girlfriend is ridiculously, over-the-top positive. And I like that about her, i really do. But when she's giving genuine, heartfelt advice or telling people to be careful, I like to give a counter proposal that usually would end in their death.
"Everything is gonna work itself out. You just have to be patient." She says to a friend in a crisis.
So my immediate response would be "But it's gonna be a long ass time, so you should probably just butt-chug this absinthe to forget your problems."
Even though she and everyone involved knows I'm being 100% sarcastic, the face she gives me will never get old.
I refer to it as "bonding over mutual conflict." It is poison and a way I screen those I want to share my life with. Unfortunately only 5-10% of people make the cut. Our society seems to have a taste for building ourselves up by putting others beneath us. I'm pretty sure it's the source of racism.
Kaden3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think being "over the top positive" is much better though. Honestly to me a lot of the time that doesn't really come off as encouraging or happy it just comes off as irritating.
Had a friend who would constantly complain about everything and I would be her wing woman, agreeing with her and chipping in with negative stories about what would annoy me, too. Guess it was a way for us to bond.
It got to a point when she started to then complain about how people in her life dislike her, like her in-laws, her colleagues... even her other friends stopped being friends with her. She kept going on about why she's always the victim, "Why does it always happen to me", etc, it then made me question, "Maybe it's you that's the problem?" So I then started to give her advice that maybe she shouldn't blame everyone for everything bad that happens and that maybe she should start taking responsibility for some of her actions.
She did not like that at all.
She then started leaving passive aggressive statuses on Facebook about how some friends when they're meant to be on her side start to make her feel really stupid.
This shit continued on for months on end, not once did she even attempt to correct her attitude or behaviour. I stopped encouraging her negativity by trying to be positive but she really did not want to hear any of that, she was too happy being miserable. (The ironic thing was was that she kept a blog broadcasting that she was the most positive and happiest person ever to her readers and they should all follow suit).
Had to cut off the toxic friendship after about 2 years of knowing her. The experience really made me re-evaluate my negative self and changed the way I projected myself on to other people.
I'm in no way the most positive person now, but I'd like to think I have grown up from that sort of behaviour, and for her sake I hope she has too.
Just be careful that you're not swinging to the other extreme. I agree non-stop negativity is draining and unattractive, but every normal person has bad days and sometimes they feel comfortable enough to air those grievances with people around them. It's very human and relatable. However, I knew someone who could not handle that and would make a point to counter everything with something "positive" but more often than not it just came across as smug and passive aggressive because she was doing it as a jab. She prided herself on being this beacon of positivity, but in reality she was petty and conditional.
Complaining sucks, but most people just need a little perspective and a lot of understanding.
TL;DR
If you get enjoyment out of taking jabs at "negative" people, you may not be as positive as you think.
As much as I hate negativity there are studies that show that mutual complaining is a good way of bonding so I understand where this lady was coming from. For example if you and your coworkers hate your boss it will bring you closer to complain together.
ya27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did she react to your counter positivity? I would almost feel hostile or passive aggressive if I countered every "This thing sucks" with "I think that thing is amazing."
As awful as shit can get, there's always something worth savoring. I never understood dwelling in the shit when you can be riding on a cloud of the silver lining.
I second this. I broke up with a girl that was like this. I couldn't stand it. It took a few weeks but it all made sense when I realized that she didn't like Halloween, The Chicago Bears, Cleveland Browns, or the Broncos because she hated the color orange but she claimed that she "loved football" Her least favorite food? Fish. I slowly learned many things she hated but NEVER what she liked. She always focused on the negative. Life is too short for that.
Being a waitress this happens too often. there are way too may negative people who complain about the littlest things, such as putting down good food for their pleasure.. Or trying to get it for free
agree 100%, i know a few people that are so overly negative about everything and i just don't understand it. being negative doesn't help the situation 90% of the time, it actually makes things worse because constantly being negative is not healthy at all.
plus, my mindset when it comes to complaining is that if you can't change it then don't fucking complain about it. obviously this doesn't apply to every situation, but it does apply to most.
I was on exchange with a girl in Europe exactly like that too. On top of the negative comments she would always compare things to how "great it is in America." Everything was shit in Europe compared to America, Americans do things better. WHY DIDN'T YOU FUCKING STAY IN AMERICA THEN???? Deborah James Downer.
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Iwillyea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you cut her out? I can't deal with "my friend's" negativity. Lately she has become even more toxic and I need an out but she's part of my social circle which is making it hard to cut ties.
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Iwillyea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the advice, I really appreciate it. Btw you're friend sounds very similar to mine.
I find positive people are usually very fake.
I can't stand a person being fake, it really pisses me off, so usually those positive people who really annoying me.
Just be honest it's far easier
I would like to add to this that complaining about social issues falls into the same category. Whether you're doing it online or in person, tirades about your perception of injustice in society doesn't make you deeper, smarter or more compassionate than the very people you complain about. It makes you more annoying. In the end you're doing the same thing as the people who aren't as "open minded" as you - namely nothing. Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your actions do. Be the change you want to see, don't just whine about it.
My current boyfriend does all of this all the time that I truly feel there is nothing to his personality aside from complaining and critiquing things. Its bringing me down so much that im on the verge of breaking up with him. Whenever I get a message from him it's more than likely him bitching about how something sucks. He even goes to critique things that I balantly say I enjoy. You know what I have to say about all this negativity? Fuck this.
I'm in the same boat. It's going to have the same outcome. I assume it'll just add to the list of negative things that'll pour out of his mouth the rest of the month, but fortunately, I won't have to be there to hear it.
I was in a relationship with someone like this. It became quite a bit more toxic once we moved in together. He began criticizing and openly hating everything that made me happy. My friends, my hobbies, my pets...It was a tough breakup because I did love him, but I know it's one of the best decisions I've made for my emotional well-being.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:43:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was that person in most of my relationships. Kind of realizing now how much of an impact it has. If he's fucking up your life with his negativity then you should do what you need to do in order to be happy again. If you're not happy with him then that's really all that matters. And if you're "on the verge" of doing it, you're really just waiting for a "good" reason. But you already have one. He's negative and brings you down.
As I said, I've been that person. I complain a lot and bitch. This little exchange of comments though is really helping me put things into perspective.
At the very least, just tell him that his negative bullshit is ruining your relationship and go from there. You'll have the answers you need once he responds. I know you weren't asking for opinions but I felt that since I've been the negative asshole that drove someone away I would comment on it.
so do you think its worth at least pointing out? like in the sense he doesn't realize how negative he is and just needs somebody to help him realize that?
space253 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:56:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I have been on both sides, he probably has no idea.
I've pointed it out in the past. Doesn't work, and it's not my job to stick around and make it work.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:35:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely worth it to point it out if you haven't. Maybe all he needs is the wake up call. My ex pointed it out to me and I didn't see it like I should have. The other issue for me, was that she was quite miserable and negative but complained about my being negative which only made me worse.
Your situation sounds different. If you haven't pointed it out to him and you love him then I would say you should talk to him about it. It's going to need to be a serious talk, but without ultimatums. Don't say "if you don't start being less negative I'm leaving." Make it a positive, which I'm sure you can do from the sounds of it.
I've always been cynical and pessimistic but didn't realize how much it affects those around me. Right up until people at my work started to bitch and complain about everything after I began to learn to shut my trap. Now I see it a lot more since I talk less.
The cynic in me has one last comment though. Don't expect him to change. It's VERY rare that people genuinely change. Something like this is not an easy fix. And it will probably take work from both of you to make it happen. But if you really love him and feel like it's worth it, that's your call. Just don't sit around for ages waiting for him to change after you point it out to him. Be reasonable but don't be a push over.
I think you will handle it well. From your comments you sound like a very down to earth person. You can always PM me if you have any questions. Since I'm a negative fuck I may be able to give slight perspective. Good luck!
DiggerW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is always a yes! It's not a relationship if you can't communicate, and this one's pretty basic. Even if you know you're going to break up with him, consider it practice! In all seriousness, communication -- good and bad -- is key to any healthy relationship.
He even goes to critique things that I balantly say I enjoy.
I literally just posted a comment about this but I spent 6 years in two relationships with people that complained about the things I enjoyed - going to the gym, making new friends, going out with friends. I stupidly tried to change myself to make them love me but even if you don't change yourself, don't choose a dark cloud. The world is full of ones you can't avoid so don't actively CHOOSE them.
Have you talked to him about it? Many people don't realize they're doing it until you point it out. It's a very easy thing to fix once people are made aware.
i dont really want to bother because hes also very stubborn and sensitive. so im worried if i bring it up he'll get super defensive and upset and i sadly don't value the relationship enough to deal with it. i suppose i should at least try and if the conversation goes south just end the relationship.
i sadly don't value the relationship enough to deal with it
i think you know what you need to do. i've been there and it sucks but deep down you know what you need. you'll thank yourself later. stay strong and you'll be a better person afterward. dont try to talk to him just because you think its the right thing to do. try talking to him only if it feels like the right thing to do.
It's sad to hear that you're in the relationship even though you don't value it. You don't it to owe, but even if you have already decided to move on from the relationship, perhaps you should say something to him so that he might improve in the future. Maybe it goes in one ear and out the other...maybe it changes his life.
I was going to say something similar about talking to him about it. If you love him deep down and the only thing holding you back is this attitude then this is definitely something that can be fixed. I was him in my last relationship. My girl ended up cheating on me with several different guys over the course of 4 years, we owned a home together for 2 of them. It destroyed me. She blamed it all on my negativity. Not to make excuses for the way I was, but that's bullshit. We've all got issues. If you're that miserable with someone, you leave them. I was completely unaware of my problem because she never spoke up about it. In my opinion, her way of "handling" it was just as bad as my attitude towards life. Your boyfriend's attitude is a clear indication that there is something wrong, he is unhappy, and possibly depressed. It could be a cry for help. If you think it's worth salvaging, find a way to talk about this without being accusing. Show him this thread.
How can this be fixed? I've had some terrible things happen and feel myself going down this path. For the sake of my relationship and my health I want to get it under control.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's where I'm at now. I noticed how negative I've been and I am going to work hard to change this way of thinking.
space253 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a 3 in 5 rule that states if 3 out of 5 times on average or more there is a negative interaction with you, people will start to notice and stop liking being around you.
Acknowledging that you are going down this path is the first step, for sure.
Seeking professional help or finding someone who you feel comfortable with and will talk to you openly about it is the next. If you're in a relationship, try to speak to your SO. Let them know that you're feeling this is an issue and you'd like to work on it. If you can't be that open with your SO, you're probably not in the healthiest of relationships to begin with.
For me, when I found myself going down this path, the first step was to pause and think before you say something negative. "What purpose does this comment have? Is it only to make someone feel bad?", I would think. If I was even unsure, I would try to hold back those words. Or I would try to mix in something positive with every negative thing I said. Balance it out.
I also found someone who I could openly say the negative things with and they would tell me "No, you're overthinking that" or "Ok, I see where you're coming from, but...". It was important to me to be reminded my opinions weren't necessarily any more right or wrong than others'.
"Very easy" might not have been the best phrasing. But I think it's not a particularly hard thing to fix for most people. They just don't realize they're doing it until someone calls them out.
rizaroni ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:35:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god. That was so my ex. It seemed that every situation we got in, he had a complaint about it. A complaint about where we lived, what we were eating, who our company was - EVERYTHING was not up to his standards. It was almost as if he felt that every situation was set up solely for his own benefit/enjoyment, so if it wasn't going well, there was hell to pay - and it all fell on me. I was goddamned miserable. Honestly, I don't think people like this really change very easily, so you're probably best getting out as soon as possible.
yea i've considered bringing up to him and maybe trying to convince him to be more positive but he's also a very stubborn and sensitive person. so i'm worried if i mention it he'll just get defensive and upset. plus i don't think its my place to ask somebody to change, even if its for the better.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He may be sensitive about his own feelings but he sounds very insensitive about yours. Toxic people poison everyone around them. From your description, it sounds like everything has to be about him. It also sounds like nothing is good enough to please him, even you. Sorry, but I doubt this will end well.
no reason to be sorry, i'm enjoying hearing everybody's input. its super helpful. i figure its at least worth a shot to talk to him and if you're right, and he doesn't listen then i can end it right there.
You will have to mention that, he wont stop unless you make him aware of it. And maybe you'll be all the stronger afterwards. Or he will bitch about you mad about him bitching.... or something like that
Don't break up with him because of this, break up with him because he didn't change to become better. Talk to him and help him change this attitude, if he doesn't then he is a lost cause.
thats a great point ill definitely try talking to him first, thank you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I'm in the same situation with my gf. I don't tell her this, but I always wonder why she always has to be such a downer. It makes for toxic days, and somehow it seems to happen more often on my days off that causes me to enjoy them less. Ugh. But is it worth pointing out or not? I don't know.. I tried once, and I came out feeling like the bad guy, somehow apologizing, and letting it go..
bstix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yo, I heard you like complaining about your boyfriends complaints, so I'm gonna complain to you about the hypocrisy in your complaint.
You deserve better than that negativity cancer. It will eat at your soul.
gordo65 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its bringing me down so much that im on the verge of breaking up with him.
That's the big problem. Constant complaining brings everyone down. It's very selfish, because whatever satisfaction you get out of it comes at the expense of everyone else.
If you do decide to end things, be honest about why. Don't pull the it's-not-you-it's-me thing to ease the blow. Let him know that his negativity is bringing you down and you don't like the person you are with him, or whatever. Even if he is a dick about it, or blows it off, it may have an effect on him and help him get a grip on his sour outlook. Maybe he doesn't realize there's an alternative.
Source: used to be a bit like your boyfriend
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not being negative. But the title 'current boyfriend' makes it seem like he is keeping the seat warm for someone else.
Do it. If he's so negative he outright disrespects the things you enjoy, in time he'll either drag you down with him or you'll burn out trying to defend your right to not hate everything. Don't let that happen.
I know right? I fucking hate it when people do that, like, I was having a great day filled with pleasant thoughts until these negative fuckers couldn't find anything better to do than annoy me.
I know right? I fucking hate it when people do that, like, I was having a great day filled with pleasant thoughts until these negative fuckers couldn't find anything better to do than annoy me.
My ex and I were pretty bad with this. We got into the habit of flicking one other in the arm/hand when that person was excessively/unreasonably whiny. Negative reinforcement is great for stuff like that.
I hate to be that person but... I'm pretty sure you mean positive punishment (aversive consequence [e.g., introduce an unpleasant stimulus to the environment] for a behavior you want to reduce), not negative reinforcement (appetitive consequence [e.g., remove an unpleasant stimulus from the environment] for a behavior you want to increase).
It's such a tiny thing but it makes a world of difference!
I used to absolutely dread going into work, until one day I realized that half of why my job sucked so much was because of my shitty attitude about it.
When you go to work with the mindset "this is the last place I want to be", it's going to suck.
Now I'm back in school and it's even easier to not hate being there because I know it's only for a little while longer!
I used to work ALL the time. PT jobs, 2 jobs at the same time. Temp jobs, FT jobs. You name it.
It got to the point where I hated the working life and longed for change.
Well, I ended up losing my job and was unemployed for 8 months.
So here I am wasting my days on the couch watching netflix and playing video games regretting that I ever wished for life away from work.
So now I go to work happier. Not too happy because I don't wanna piss someone off by them thinking "Why is this asshole always so happy, ugh"
But it's nice to know that I am not that guy you see on TV anymore that sits in traffic pissed off half asleep and walks to his desk mad and is upset all day.
It's nice living a life without daily seething anger!
A job is still a job, and unless you're one of those rare people who truly love what they do, it's good to be able to show up to your job and not totally hate it. If you can find a way to enjoy it, even just a little, more power to ya!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've found it really helps if you like the people you work with.
Out of the jobs I've done, the only one I didn't like much was my first one, because I didn't like the people I was working with.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man I feel you so much there - I spent about 5-6 months of last year unemployed living off savings. Holy fuck it was horrible, going to gym was basically the main going out thing I did because I paid my membership for the year when I was working.
Having nothing that I had to do or get done each day really plays on your mind after a while.
I would wake up and search the job boards for a few hours while watching Netflix.
Head out to the gym for 2 hours or so. Come back home and search the job boards again.
Several days a week. It got really fucked up.
When I lost my job I had co-workers saying things like "You should go to the beach and enjoy the rest of your day"
Well.... after like the 2nd day of realizing there is absolutely nothing to do in life as an unemployed person, that whole 'Freedom' becomes pointless.
I think when I was feeling fine I would actually go to the park and read a magazine under s tree. The park was empty minus some kids and parents and was a nice change, but you can't live off of 'nice empty parks' all your life.
The last Friday before I started my job I took a tallboy to the beach in the late afternoon.
Sometimes we need to go through trials and tribulations to appreciate how far along life has taken you.
I guess that was the wake up I needed to realize that the grass isn't greener on the other side.
juel1979 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. My kid was super excited to get back to school - see her friends, enjoy her routine, and she loves her teachers. My ten year old niece tried SO HARD to suck my kiddo into complaining about going back. I got my first "I want to stay home" today when getting my kid out of bed. Just had to remind her that was more of my niece talking than her, since she loves school.
Oh man, I have worked on this for years. At one point someone told me that all I do is complain and I didn't even realize it. Then when I took notice I realized how fucking annoying it is to be around someone who complains all the time. I've made a huge effort over the years to not complain a lot even in front of my fiancee. It means I have to bottle a lot up, but I let it out in other ways like intense exercise.
Hmm I do this... but I only noticed it a few months back. I hate it when other people do it but it's actually very hard to stop. You get in the habit of making conversation BY complaining about something, and your opinion on anything becomes why you don't like it, rather than why you do.
So got any tips? I guess being aware of it is a step but something else is needed!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:45:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The irony of your comment, and everyone else in this thread, is that you are all complaining about complainers. The hypocrisy is palpable.
Well, I made the comment because it's something I myself used to do a lot. I stopped by working on my filter. If I was in conversation then I'd just pay a lot of attention to what I was going to say. I realised that I did the negative thing most when I was feeling a bit nervous or self-conscious. There was probably a period when I didn't talk as much as I used to while I got into the habit of cutting off the kneejerk negative comments. But one I'd gotten the hang of recognising it I could start working out how to adapt what I was saying into something positive. "That album was so bad" became "Oh I loved their next album so much".
So I guess be aware of it. Take notice of when and why you do it. Don't expect to change all at once, accept that it takes time and be patient with yourself. Enjoy the small victories and stick with it. Good luck :)
Make something your positive topic for the day. Before you fall asleep the night before or the morning of, depending on your personality of course, think of something you want to talk about. Then when someone approaches you and asks how you've been or what's going on you can say "Oh I had this great burger this weekend. It was from Joe's Burgers. Have you ever been there? No? Well let me tell you about it!" or "I'm pretty good. I actually watched this awesome documentary about the Caribbean and it is so beautiful there. I had no idea!" Chances are, people will be able to relate to most positive things in a positive manner. And after so many days or weeks of picking a topic to talk about it will start to become more second nature. It helps if you're smiling and enthusiastic about the topic. It will get the other person excited too and you guys can feed off each other's positivity.
I feel like this too, and it's like my automatic reaction is to only notice what's wrong rather than noticing what I like. It's so automatic that I can't interrupt it and I usually don't even notice when I'm doing it except when it's too late. I've been able to notice it sometimes when I do it to my husband or my kid because I can see their face fall and I'm like, shit, I've been an arse again, and I follow it up immediately with something genuinely positive but it's too late and it sounds fake. I need to work on it. I guess that noticing as soon as I do it is a start? I've just realised I did it this morning, though. Husband spent hours setting up mine and the family computer with parts he'd researched and upgraded and all I said was "Oh damn, but that old card worked better with my old game, can you swap it back?" ARGH. Such an asshole move. I need to make it up to him.
I know it sounds stupid, but how did you contained yourself? It's what I find hard. I talk before thinking, maybe complain about something or whatever. However afterwards I think it through and I'm like "that was a good time to keep my mouth shut".
It takes time and practice. You start by just paying attention to the way you talk to people without trying to change it, so that you have a clear idea of how it goes when you get into a negative place. Then you start to notice what makes that happen. Then you start to realise that it's about to happen. Then you start to experiment with taking control of that situation.
Learning to deliberately take control of what you're doing is a skill that you can apply to so many things in your life and it is what ultimately will properly make a difference to how you do shit. But it takes time and it takes practice.
But over time you start to see yourself becoming someone that you yourself would like to spend time with, and it's an amazing feeling. And it can totally happen for you.
This is so true, thank you for bringing it to light. I hate being around negative people when you're just trying to enjoy yourself and keep a good mood going. I'd rather be alone than with someone constantly bringing everything down.
This is huge and it is/was a particularly big problem in my family. My mom complained constantly so my sister and I learned it. Complaining about your latest health problem or your shit job is a great way to drive people away. If you don't have anything nice to say...
Oh GOD people who always complain about their latest health problems... ARE THE BEST (trying not to complain)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my mom is exactly the same. She loves to say awful things about strangers she sees at the grocery store, whoever she's currently dating, her coworkers, her siblings, and everyone and everything else. It's exhausting and a major mood killer. I don't like spending a lot of time with her because of it.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone with a chronic disease... fuck you, quite frankly. I'm gonna complain about my health problems because they dominate my life every day. Healthy people are so fucking insensitive to people with chronic pain and sickness. You try being in pain every day of your life and see how positive you can be. Getting all that stuff out there, talking about it, helps me deal with it. I'm sorry my 'negativity' is annoying to you./s
I'd say the exact opposite. There's nothing more entertaining than hearing someone say "fuck this shit" with amazing eloquence.
I would also not hesitate to be open with those people. If they tear me down for it, I know that's just their style, and don't take it very personally.
I work at a gas station and I extremely dislike several of our regulars because they don't know how to small talk without complaining. There is one guy that no one even asks how he's doing because he'll be there for 4 minutes telling us all of his problems.
This is especially true about complaining about your own life. Self deprecating humor can be good, but if you overdo it, everyone around you just feels awkward. You might not think you're attractive, but you're sure as hell not going to become more attractive by constantly reminding everyone of all of your flaws and issues.
I don't think of myself as super positive, but I have had a number of people tell me that they want more people in their life like me because of my positivity.
I don't jump on the bitchfest bandwagon, I notice (and say something) when someone does something good (either their physical appearance, or a good job at work, or they said something interesting), and again, none of these are over-the-top and I'm certainly not walking around skipping and chirping, but it makes other people feel more positive, and they like that feeling.
This is so true. And I'm on the other side of it. I just had a serious talk with my boyfriend yesterday about how rocky our relationship has gotten lately and his main complaint was that I bitch and moan and see the negative in everything all the time. And I do, he's right. Breaking this habit is going to be the hardest thing I've ever tried to do to save a relationship. It's just second nature for me for so long.
But it can be done, and you can do it. Realising that there's something you need to change about yourself to be happier is a step a lot of people never get to. Now go kick ass.
This is so fucking true and I had a friendship that ended partially because of this. A few years ago it was so fun to be negative and hate everything together. Then I grew out of that and realized how annoying that is...but she didn't.
I can recall two occasions where I was on a first dinner date and didn't complain to the staff about legitimate grievances because it would have spoiled the mood.
My rule about this is that there's a very big difference between bitching (a time-honored military tradition) and whining. Everyone bitches. It's cold, you're in the rain, you're bored as fuck, whatever. It gives you something to talk about and keep the boredom and cold at bay. But whining is something very different and is never once okay.
No matter how shitty my last Field Artillery FTX we tricked ourselves by saying "I'm just happy to be here." everytime the times got shitty. Was definitely sarcastic but was enough to make the suck better.
OoLaLana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree whole-heartedly.
One of my most valuable life lessons was learning to play the 'silver lining game'. No matter what happened, I looked for the silver lining. Because it's there. Always. It's just waiting to be found.
Now I default to being positive without even thinking. Life in general is so much more pleasant. And the complainers keep their distance because their negativity never gains traction with me.
Just want to add... I collect quotes and this comes to mind: "Some people find fault like there's a reward for it."
I work with the queen of low-level bitching. She has nothing positive to say, ever. At a certain point people just stop communicating with her unless it is absolutely necessary because she'll just bring you down.
This comment will probably go unnoticed but what you said sort of touches directly on one of my philosophies in life. If you have a problem in your life, its something that can A.) be fixed, or B.) can't be fixed. If it can be fixed (A) then quit feeling bad about it, complaining about it ect. and get off your ass and fix it. Or (B) it can't be fixed, in which case feeling bad about it, complaining or generally getting down it the dumps about it does nothing, cheer up and move forward.
I've suffered from depression going on 20 years now, mostly untreated because my family doesn't like to talk about unpleasant things and I developed some really unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with it.
Anyhow, I've been reading this book about personality traits people with depression tend to have in common and this one is at the top of the list. It's really hard to force myself to read it because it feels like someone is pointing out all my flaws, and I don't know where my personality stops and depression begins.
The thing that I am coming to realize as I try to fight back against it is, negativity attracts negativity. I have very few friends that I do more than sit around and bitch about things with. It's so ingrained in me I don't know how to begin to turn it off. But I am more aware of it now, so maybe that's the first step.
Yes ! I briefly dated a guy that was just negative, I don't even remeber any other aspects of his personality. On the first date the questions he asked, repetely, were "What do you hate?" "Who's a singer that you hate?" "What are you ashemed of?".
I cut it off before relapsing into depression.
From then on, almost a year, I always make an effort to be more positive. It makes a great difference just to think less negative thoughts, also I never want to be that person. The biggest lesson I learn in 2015.
I used to be guilty of this because my mom is like this. It was normal to me. It wasn't until my (future) BIL brought it up to my boyfriend and he brought it up to me that I realized that ALL my small talk was petty complaints. I've been a lot more conscious of what I say now.
gratitude is everything! no matter how shitty of a day you have, you can still be grateful for something as small as toothpaste.
HuoXue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even just to appear attractive, but to not appear bitter and spiteful. There's people that I've worked with that, at the first sign of something not going quite the way it should (see: immediately and often), they turn so sour that milk curdles in their presence.
"This job sucks. This is why everyone quits. I can't believe it fucked up again. I can't wait to quit this job."
And it just makes you not want to be around them, in any capacity whatsoever.
I mean, shit dudes, you gotta be here til your shift is done anyway.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the only reason I attract decent people I guess. My friends are kinda bitchy and they wonder why the only guys who ask them out are bros who don't listen. It's because you have done nothing but complain since you met.
Occasional bitching is okay. Not like every week, maybe every few months when something really pisses you off. For example, if some fucktard at my work messes up his laptop and then blames me for it, then someone forgets to do the finance sheet at the end of the day, THEN the shelf in the back room breaks spilling now broken electronics everywhere you bet your ass I'm gonna bitch to my friends because I need a release.
Hang in there buddy. The fucknuts that we work with will always be fucknuts, but at least we get to go home at the end of the day and know that we can still be cheerful even though brad printed all 400 pages of that spreadsheet again
I told my kids the following and they seemed to take it to heart:
You know what you will never, ever hear someone say? "Man, I love whiners! People that whine and complain all the time are the best. It's so much fun to be around someone who is constantly whining about how they didn't get their way or they don't like something. I go out of my way to be friends with whiners." You'll never someone say it, unless they're joking. You'll never hear it because nobody likes whiners.
Winos, on the other hand, who doesn't love a wino?
In a similar vein, don't put yourself down constantly. This doesn't mean you can't have a self-deprecating sense of humor some of the time, and it really doesn't mean be a self-important, preening ass. But I used to try to mask some of my insecurities by constantly making jokes about myself, in part figuring that I'd beat the other guy to the punch, in part to show I have a sense of humor about myself. Trouble with that second part is, do it enough and people will start to see the truth behind the "jokes."
A friend tried to set me up with a friend of hers a few years ago. We had drinks, hit it off, friended each other on Facebook, and kept trying to set up another date, but something always came up, either with me or with her. Thing is, though, the one thing I saw about her status updates was constant self-deprecation. It was worth a grin the first couple times, but pretty soon, it became evident that she had some real baggage and that I didn't want to have to deal with it. It's about three years later, we're still friends on FB, we still like or comment on each other's posts, and I genuinely like her (and think she's damn good looking besides), but she pretty much blew any chance of my trying to take things to the next level.
This has the added benefit of positively affecting your thoughts and feelings long term. If you don't give an outlet to this petty negativity, the thoughts become less common.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I started highschool I quickly became the "eh, I honestly don't care" kind of guy. Really sticks with you if you don't do somthing.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just made me realize why and how my relationship of 4 years fell apart, we both liked how negative we both were and that's where our similarities came from. What an eye opener, great answer !
PC509 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That pisses my wife off to no end. I always have something nice to say about someone. There is always a positive about everyone.
What I've noticed as I got older is that I start to push those negative people out of my life. If you constantly nag and tell me I can't achieve a goal I have set in my life I will slowly remove you from my life.
PSU02 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel that there still is a need to complain when it ABSOLUTELY NEEDED, but not all of the time.
I don't mean "pretend everything is fine all the time" but don't let yourself engage in - or especially start - that low-level bitching that so quickly becomes a habit. Try and find something positive to say if you're struggling to make conversation, and if you can't then express your opinion plainly. Don't talk about being annoyed by something, talk about being disappointed. Don't be the person who is always tearing stuff down.
I cannot tell you how unattractive it is when somebody around you whines or is negative a lot, and once someone notices you're doing it, they can't un-notice. Also people will stop wanting to be open and honest about how they feel about something around you in case you're negative about it.
If all you have in common with someone is a love of putting stuff down and complaining about things then one day in the future you'll realise that the only thing left you haven't yet complained about in detail is each other and then the real unhappiness will start.
Man this is why I've stopped spending time with several of my friends.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and once someone notices you're doing it, they can't un-notice
Holy crap, this! I am known in my family as the negative one because i used to be very negative as an angsty teen. In my 20s my sisters and I went our own ways and didn't see each other too much, so they still view me as the negative person i once was.
This is something i noticed and realized over the holidays as i visited with my family. Now, over a decade later, they (my sibs) perceive negativity from me even when there isn't any there. I'll be the one who is told off for being "negative" even though a) other people are also being negative whether i am or not, and b) i'm being neutral or even positive.
Example: We were watching the start of a football game, and the Nat'l Anthem is sung by a group of guys. My dad and sister both make fun of them (Dad: I'd NEVER pay money to hear these guys sing; Sister: Their name is ____?! That's so stupid!), whereas i said "Well, i think this is way better than the showy style of performance, because these guys are doing a singalong! It shows community and togetherness by having everyone sing the anthem together." Yet i'm the one who was chastised for being "negative", and neither of them were.
TL;DR: I was a negative person as a teen. 10 years later and my siblings still perceive me this way even though i'm not nearly as bad as i was then.
If all you have in common with someone is a love of putting stuff down and complaining about things then one day in the future you'll realise that the only thing left you haven't yet complained about in detail is each other and then the real unhappiness will start.
I also have experience with this. My last relationship was as you describe, and we did run out of things to complain about. We turned on each other, and it was a very messy breakup.
I made away with a cool crock pot that she forgot, though!
Can't even put into words how true this is. Its so easy to bitch and act entitled. But are those the types of people you want to be around? Learned this after realising that all of the people whose company I sincerely enjoy are those that are not constantly bitching and seem to genuinely be optimistic people.
I stopped seeing a woman who refused to find the joy in anything in her life. Everything was negative, all the time. Job was terrible, ex-husband was difficult, friends were boring, TV shows weren't as good as they used to be, movies were a waste of time. It was like dating the worst parts of Reddit.
I cut that one loose. I can't function feeling like everything all the time is terrible. Plus I suspected that I'd simply be another disappointment in her already terrible life.
Yes, I totally agree. I had a roommate who was a really cool guy otherwise, but whenever we'd be in a shitty situation (awful heat at a music fest, party people left our house a mess), he would just bitch, bitch, bitch. It's the last thing anyone wants to hear when we're already in an annoying situation.
On a second date in a run-of-the-mill pub in London, I, as a foreigner, told her how absolutely, maddeningly stupid the separate water taps one can find all over the UK are. She said, "You are so grumpy. But you have a smile on your face at the same time. It's weird. I don't know what to think of it".
It's been over two years we've been together, and in that time she has gotten me two custom made presents with the word "grumps" on it, and I love them both.
I don't know if there's a moral to this story, but if there's one, it's "be yourself".
Hang in there - sometimes the best thing that can happen in a day is to truly understand what you want to be different about your life. Good luck, bud.
There's a woman at work who really wants to be friends with me, but it's kinda sad because it will never happen- she bitches constantly about the customers, especially the kids- knowing perfectly well that I'm a preschool TA at my other job and I love kids.
She might be fun to hang out with if she didn't exude low-level hate at all times.
Just like laughing, you should be complaining with people, not at people. Commiserating with fellow coworkers or students? OK! Bitching about how much you hate the newest hit movie? Nope, nope nope.
this really resonated with me. i am a debbie downer a lot and my last job really brought it out in me. now i've been trying really hard to complain less and really think about what i'm saying. i'm sure i've burned many bridges unwillingly from this bad habit. i just hope i can stop the burning now.
This is why I was terrified of my aunt when I was a kid. It was like walking on eggshells so I just learned to not say much to her.
Dr_HQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you need to be able to vent once in a while. Every now and again we just need to get shit off our chest and let out some pent up frustration.
But otherwise I 100% agree with you. When I say once in a while, I really mean once in a while. Like a couple of times a year. Maybe it's my Jewish heritage, once in a while a good kvetch can be therapeutic. But nobody wants to be around someone that's always kvetching, that is totally unattractive, annoying and stressful.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally just yesterday realized my one friend is Cancer. Went to an NBA game with him and it was hate and depression from him the entire time there, during, and coming back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I am guilty of this. Im like that guy in boyhood when in his teenage years (at the end of the movie) I need to grow up :(
It's so true. Eventually all the people who are motivated and driven will put distance between themselves and The Complainer, and all that will be left is a group of malcontents. That group doesn't really impact the world in a positive manner.
Unless you're in France. You need to complain to fit into French culture.
mmo115 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If all you have in common with someone is a love of putting stuff down and complaining about things then one day in the future you'll realise that the only thing left you haven't yet complained about in detail is each other and then the real unhappiness will start.
I like that
ethang45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I've slowly been learning this lesson the hard way.
Illblood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to stay away from super negative people. It really is contageious.
mwashu66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're really good at complaining. I have a friend who literally bitches at everything. She'd find something at fault in a pile of fluffy kittens. But the way she bitches is hilarious and it's never personal. She bitches about the world, not the individuals in it, which makes hanging out with her a 24/7 comedy routine. She's a lot of fun to be around and we love her for this exact trait.
The negative person in our department just quit. It's a good thing since he made it very clear how much he hated his job, his clients, our company, and everything else in his life. I snapped at him a few weeks ago after he said he hated three unrelated things and went on to badmouth them in the span of an hour.
We had a party after he left.
hfourm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you do complain, at least have good humor about it.
You may have just changed my life. I have been on a roller coaster with this. There are times when I'm positive, but it seems more often than not I turn the other direction.
I notice it myself, but simply think "man, I should try to be more positive."
Reading this makes me seriously rethink my commitment to being positive.
Ugh I have a friend who is a complainer, such a drag to be around. Even if something good has happened he finds a way to complain. Total buzz killington.
If all you have in common with someone is a love of putting stuff down and complaining about things then one day in the future you'll realise that the only thing left you haven't yet complained about in detail is each other and then the real unhappiness will start.
This was the basis of my last failed relationship. I am happy to say I am a more positive person and engaged to probably the most genuinely nice woman on the planet.
Someone once told me during a general conversation about hobbies that if the topic doesn't interest him he was not going to waste his time talking about it. Probably the most depressing thing I have ever heard.
My brother (whose only a little older than me, but damn if that man isn't wise for his years) once told me, "having things to complain about doesn't mean you need to be complaining about them. "
It's pretty obvious to me now, but it definitely stuck with me.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, this hit home. Just in the last few weeks I noticed myself slipping into this habit.
Thanks for this. I have been actively trying to avoid complaining for a while now, and it's hard since I am surrounded by coworker's and family who seem to enjoy complaining.
I definitely fail and end up complaining, too, but I am trying real hard to be an optimistic, approachable person.
Scythe95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With that and good personal hygene you het a long way.
pmartian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something I consciously notice at times is when a group of ppl spend a lot of time gossiping about someone we all know we have a problem with. It's just like "ok...we all know this person sucks...why are we now spending 5...10...30mins just bitching about them?" There's a huge irony in spending your time/thoughts/feelings on someone you profess to not like.
Lmao, reminds me of a girl I liked in college. I'd say she was a solid 8, at the least, in the looks department, but the more I hung out with her and realized how much of a downer she was, the less and less she looked attractive. I couldn't be around her negativity.
I said hi to her over Facebook this Christmas because I saw that she had moved to NYC for a new job and was quickly reminded of her negativity. It took all of 5 messages before she started complaining about her job. Like damn girl, you're living in NYC, making decent money doing a job in the industry you wanted to work in. Goddamn, grow up, you're not a student anymore, life is about having to adapt and growing up especially means you have to adapt.
jenseits ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and once someone notices you're doing it, they can't un-notice.
Preach. I've noticed one of my friends is one of these Negative Nellies and now I've noticed either that she's relentless or that I've started looking for behavior that reinforces my perception of her. It's a brutal cycle.
I absolutely cannot be attracted to someone who has more opinions on what they hate than what they actually like. I wouldn't get along with a lot of reddit due to that fact alone.
I get it, you hate Justin Bieber, Kim Kardashian, Rihanna, Apple, Christians, daytime television, reality television, all television, skinny jeans, hipster glasses, uggs, Michael Bay, twilight, Katy Perry, republicans, liberals, feminists, literally everything that you personally don't like. Hell I might even share your dislike in some of those things. But if that's all you ever fucking talk about then shut the fuck up because you're just a writhing ball of negativity hoping someone will join you in your superiority circle jerk.
Lebran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am so with this. I work in a good environment with a group of people who, myself included, earn way way way more money than a lot of people in much better qualified or harder jobs, and ALL HALF OF THEM DO IS MOAN. I really enjoy my job, and when I don't, I realise that I could work elsewhere, earn half the money and still have days where I hate it too.
The amount of times I have to bite my tongue not to yell 'why don't you stop whinging and leave then!?' is ridiculous.
chumothy ยท 5240 points ยท Posted at 14:14:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arrested Development too. Not AS popularly mentioned here as it used to be, in fact I havent seen mention in months. But its a big site. I'm sure people still talk about it a bit.
Here's one example. Can't vouch for taste though. It's not much different than adding cream to a sauce or something. My mom makes a pretty gnarly looking dish that I call milksteak, tastes good, doesn't look so good.
of coke not too long ago...didn't fuck with it though. Also found a geocache without GPS or coordinates due to this habit. I'd say over the last 3 years I've found around 200 dollars by just looking at the ground.
It's standing on a piece of wood while it obeys the laws of gravity. No one's ever gonna call you out on it and its easy enough to fake just being out of practice.
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You know what's weird? I have Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker. It's a sweet sword in both Diablo and World of Warcraft. I have it in both games, and still have no idea what this reference is.
Well, you did it. You took my one chance for happiness and crushed it. Crushed it into little, tiny, bite-sized pieces. I really expected better of you people. I guess I'm a loser for that too. Don't bother showing up tomorrow, I'll just tell them you all died in a marching accident. So thanks, thanks for nothing.
What kind of monsters are we? That poor creature came to us in his hour of need, and we failed him. Squidward's always been there for us when it was convenient for him. Evelyn, when your little Jimmy was trapped in a fire, who rescued him?
Right. So, if we can all just pretend that Squidward was a fireman, or some guy in an ambulance, then I'm sure that we can all pull together and discover what it truly means to be in a marching band.
guaranic ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:26:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's make Squidward proud!
A one. A two. A skiddly diddly do!
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:06:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew this was gonna happen. They're just gonna have to find another band to play. I just hope that...SQUILLIAM DOESN'T FIND OUT! SQUILLIAM! What are you doing here?!
Don't thank us yet! We're not done until someone replies to me and we finish the episode (and on the topic, I'd assert it's one of the best episodes of television ever)!
RC_COW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hobby is asking if there is horse raddish in of the sauces or spreads at restaurants because im severely allergic. Throat swells up a stobs me from being able to breathe.
Mayonnaise isn't an instrument. The thing you dip in the mayonnaise is the instrument. It's the instrument you use to get more mayonnaise in your mouth.
ROO3D ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:14:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, currently eating an instrument
w116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's an obsession in the Netherlands, go to any restaurant serving "patat" in any country of the world, introduce your group as bunch of clogs, and extra mayonnaise will be offered on demand.
snorlz ยท 1085 points ยท Posted at 16:46:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
see the problem with this is that not all interests/hobbies are given the same weight. if you love video games, thats not something you want to bring up when youre on a date
mocylop ยท 3270 points ยท Posted at 17:31:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You can have "consumer" hobbies, and those are fine. However, when people mention having hobbies or interest they mean ones where you are a creator/instigator.
When you play a video game or watch a movie you are consuming something, and regardless of how into that you are it is harder for you to share that or be interesting unless another person is also into that "consumer" hobby.
On the other hand if you have a hobby where you are an instigator you can much more easily share that with someone and let them experience that with you. You can teach someone something as you do it and share the experience.
A couple of examples:
I'm really into outdoorsie stuff. I love to backpack, camp, canoe, etc... This is stuff that I can bring someone along and teach them something, see something cool, and share a memorable experience.
OR if you are into photography. You can go somewhere interesting to take some pictures. You create a unique memorable experience and are able to share/teach someone a skill that they didn't have previously.
To be clear I'm not trying to be down on Video Games. I've put literally thousands of hours into Dota 2, Arma, Mount and Blade, etc... However, I'm not gonna use that as a basis of getting to know someone because it will almost certainly be a situation where you are passively consuming some content within the confines of your home. It isn't an interesting/ unique or memorable situation. You aren't going to come out of that experience with a greater or closer understanding of another person.
Edit: By consumer I don;t mean the "I open up my wallet And it's full of blood" capitalist consumerist machine that we live in. I mean that it is a hobby where you are generally consuming the creation of someone else. Passive might be a better word. E.G. Watching Gilmore Girls is a passive hobby. While playing intramural kickball is a instigator/creator hobby.
chumothy ยท 429 points ยท Posted at 17:37:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great response, thank you. I replied to them as well, but this is the crux of what I originally intended when I said "hobbies or interests."
I think in the context of becoming more attractive, a its pretty clear what they mean by a hobby. Watching football on Sundays, no. Playing flag football on Sundays, yes.
[deleted] ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 18:25:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 19:06:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of that only works well with other people who have similar knowledge, so it doesn't really help much. Such hobbies can certainly be rewarding, but they're not particularly social except with other people who share the hobby.
mocylop ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:14:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mentioned this a bit in my main post, but there is still a difference between a consumer hobby you can talk about and an instigator hobby you can show/include someone.
More likely than not. You discussion of cinematography will be over their head unless they are also interested in the same consumer hobby as you. Which solves the problem of consumer hobbies being relatively uninteresting by virtue of that person having "bought into" that hobby also. Alternatively they might be really into you so your discussion of cinematography will be the greatest topic ever because they really want to jump your bones.
The key difference is that an instigator hobby is something that you can share with someone who has no experience in it. During which you can learn about each other, share a unique and memorable experience, and show your skill at something/show that you are interesting. In short you are creating content.
And people like folks who create content.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:31:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where does Reddit fall on that continuum? You're "consuming" content made by non-professionals, but on a for-profit website that very carefully optimizes for addictiveness. OTOH, some Reddit "hobbies" (I'm looking at you, imgur), are now businesses in their own right worth hundreds of millions of dollars. It's a community that is larger than several nation-states, but also one where outsiders really won't get most of the in-jokes.
tsein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really like where you're coming from, but...
The key difference is that an instigator hobby is something that you can share with someone who has no experience in it.
This is not true of all instigator hobbies. I enjoy writing computer software, for example, and while the end result of some projects (those which make pretty pictures) can be interesting to people with no relevant domain knowledge, most of what I do does not fall in this category.
I'm certain there are far more instigator hobbies which you can share with pretty much anybody, and the discussions you might have about them are also likely to be deeper and more interesting than the ones focused on consumer hobbies, but if you're taking up a new hobby as a means of trying to become more interesting or attractive, you will still need to pick and choose a bit to avoid following one that the people you want to be interested won't relate to.
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you can share that! Sure you can't talk about the code behind it but you can talk why you did it, or something to that effect. You have to build the conversation to who you are talking to. I've been able to turn Warhammer 40K tabletop into a conversation piece because I found out she was an artist and I painted my own figures. So I focused on the art rather than the game.
it doesn't really work that way, that's like saying your hobby of watching football is the same as someone playing football, because they know the same rules and stats.
The way I think of it, the "interesting" hobbies are those that develop one's capacities in some way. Lifting weights, playing an instrument and cooking are three obvious examples. But so is learning about science by reading or studying, even though there's a sense in which this is a kind of "consumption." People like Richard Feynman are engaging because they use their capacity for scientific understanding to illuminate the subject for others.
As you mention, one can learn about film in much the same way as one can learn about science or other subjects. But needless to say, that is not what most people are doing when they go to see a movie. Most people aren't developing any significant ability or understanding when they catch Star Wars at the local mall.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:20:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is an awesome response. I've been trying to find the way to describe the difference between having say running or sailing as a hobby vs video games and watching movies/sports. I had once told a younger friend seeking advice, "get good at something that doesn't involve a screen." But I like your breakdown a little better, since you could argue that creative writing is a hobby that involves a screen but is definitely not of the "consumer" type, which is more what I was telling him to branch away from.
Ooh an eloquent explaination on why I cringe when people say anime is their hobby. Not cosplay, not role play, just - anime. It's like saying TV is a hobby. You just sit there :/
RaitoGG ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:34:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still a hobby. The guy you responded to literally labelled it a "consumer hobby", so it's still a hobby.
Ok? Youre upset about what activities I personally find cringe-y? Its not that strange to find sitting around watching a bunch of episodes of anime a distasteful activity. Sitting around watching anything (movies, TV, etc) is boring to me. So what? I never said it wasnt a hobby. I said I had a mental reaction to people saying "anime" was their hobby
klethra ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:40:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in a similar position with one exception. One of my friends is truly into anime and video games as expressions of story, and he uses these media as inspiration for his own creation of a video game. For this guy, it's a creative hobby rather than one based on consumption. He calls himself a weeaboo, but honestly, the self-deprication strikes me as being pretty unnecessary.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:36:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He calls himself a weeaboo, but honestly, the self-deprication strikes me as being pretty unnecessary.
Like 90% of anime fans jokingly do this.
pomegra ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:24:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just odd that you felt the need to specify and isolate anime specifically. And odd that you find it distasteful. I find watching football boring, but I don't think that it's distasteful to watch it, nor do I think that considering it a hobby is cringeworthy. That's a bit extreme.
Not to say that you're not allowed to feel the way you feel. It's certainly not uncommon to find anime distasteful. That's a very common opinion, in fact. Usually because they think it's childish.
Or overly cartoonish. Or just too nerdy.
You can go right out and say it, if that's the case. You don't need to hide behind a facade of disliking watching things in general, when it seems clear that your ire is disproportionately focused towards anime.
Im not hiding behind a facade of not liking TV, lol. I really dont like watching movies, I see maybe 1 a year in theaters if that, im a grad student, so yeah I really wish I was hiding behind that excuse and secretly loved movies bc I could sure use some time to zonk out. i just dont have time for it anyways. sure it was super focused on anime when I made that comment, but people can find whatever they like distasteful. I dont think ANIME is distasteful, I find obsession over it to the point of it being their main hobby distasteful.
pomegra ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:33:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, why anime specifically? It's fine to find anime distasteful as I've already said. It's a very common opinion. It, however, doesn't make sense to find it more distasteful than movies and TV for the reasons that you've let on.
There's a reason why you focused on anime over the more intuitive option of simply saying "I think it's odd when someone's main hobby revolves around watching a screen"
Keep in mind Im not attacking anime, take this from someone who was into anime, went to Cons, fuck dude when I was like 10 I ran around my basement with a necklace pretending I was some chick-inuyasha.
Maybe its my podunk state, but The cultural obsession over anime in my area is all around weird. The rabbit hole for anime seems to go pretty deep, which is fine most hobbies do. I know plenty of people obsessed with star wars, tolkein, supernatural, downtown abbey, netflix in general, cinephiles, etc too, and it doesnt seem to take over their life and create a suck of isolating escapism like anime does. I know people prone to wanting a mental escape will sometimes gravitate towards these other "cultures" or "religions" in their media. But sometimes, the surrounding culture is just obnoxious and even the adults who have jobs and are just into it as a hobby seem pretty immersed and thus isolated with each other, maybe thats my issue. Losing a friend to a "hobby" you once shared kinda sucks, maybe its like doing drugs, you decide to quit taking them, then see who was just friends with you because you had the full DVD series of cowboy bebop. lol
pomegra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that makes more sense. Sorry, it seems I misunderstood what you meant.
The culture around anime can definitely get to an obsession of that degree. I thought your issue with anime was more to do with the medium itself rather than the rabid fans. And although some might say that the fans are more to blame, what you describe is certainly something characteristic of anime fandom specifically.
no i love the medium and the art, and Im still a fan of a few shows. I just dont like to generalize when it comes to fandoms. so the cringing comes from someone introducing this potential "flag" to aspects of their personality that I might not jive with. That can stereotyping to a degree but in my only experiences someone is either a casual fan and wouldnt list it as a hobby, or insists they arent obsessed but only talks about all the different shows, figurines they bought, plushies, conventions, and their next cosplay. I totally respect its this big world that seems kinda fun, but its so isolating if you are just a casual watcher trying to hang out with these people. I feel the need to really actively construct activities sans-anime to make sure I can be included, only to still be "removed" (i.e. I set up a wine and paint night at my house and picked a video tutorial on cherry blossoms, they wanted to sketch pokemon instead)
anime itself can be great. I dont dig the childish ones and the cheesy shit, which somehow always stay in vogue with the adults. Whyy.
I watch TV/Anime/Movies/Read Comic Books for my hobbies and I enjoy them.
What is the difference between this and general reading, that people seem to think is a damn good hobby?
I enjoy the stories that come from watching these shows/movies, and I feel like it is not cringe worthy.
Now what might be cringe worthy is if they watch anime just to "watch anime"
I feel like if you watch something there should be a reason to liking it to, something that can spark a discussion maybe.
"I watch <this show> because it makes me laugh" or "I watch this show cause it is a good thriller/mystery and I want to try to figure out who the killer is" or even " I watch this show cause the animation is great, and I enjoy that" I would not find that cringe worthy at all.
Sorry I think I just went a little more "neckbeard" then I wanted there, but the point still stands that there is nothing wrong with "just sitting there"
Ok you kind of got me there, but I would never call it "cringe worthy", and again at least with Anime there is a lot you can still talk about it. As long as it is not just the Standard ones and they watch it just to watch it kind of thing.
Maybe that is just me though.
PPL_93 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:04:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't find it "cringe worthy" but most others do unfortunately.
I sometimes enjoy anime, but still find it cringeworthy. People try to use anime to start a conversation with me because I like Japanese things, but I find talking about anime to be incredibly boring. Usually the anime watcher just identifies with watching anime, playing games, and collecting stuff, so there's often not much else to go on.
lcg18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nobody said theres anything wrong with it, we are saying non consumer hobbies are more attractive
theRLO ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:35:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is wrong with it. It's just been labeled as a consumer hobby and not a creative one - which was a point in the earlier comments on the thread. I'm not sure how you missed that context other than you were searching for a little soapbox to stand on to make a point that's already been made.
You did go a lot neckbeard there, not just a little.
We get it. You like anime.
I'm also pretty confused as to why you hate on people who purely watch it to watch it. Elitism, I suppose.
God damn, you did not even try to go with a conversation you just went full attack mode there didn't you.
Plus if you read the thread, I was starting to see her point a bit, like what your supposed to do in a debate/conversation.
But ok whatever.
theRLO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man....
Sorry if I touched a nerve. I looked at what I said and although I don't think I went "full attack mode" I do see how it could have rubbed someone the wrong way.
You are pretending to be a victim when you did basically the exact same thing here in a way that could be construed as much more offensive than my critique.
I feel differently about TV and movies than most people I guess. The passive absorption even when you are watching interesting and educational stuff just gets really old really fast for me. Reading is much more engaging.
How though, i mean your still absorbing the information right.
I mean if that is the way you feel, then that's cool that's your thing, but you should not i guess knock TV if it is not for you, cause it might be for someone else.
Things don't just get a free pass from criticism because you like them, we are on reddit, and can dislike anything as freely as you can like something, and you are required to have an equal amount of respect for my dislike of an activity as I am of liking an activity.
People are free to like/dislike what ever you want, and I am free to ask questions about why they don't like them and offer counter points to strike up a debate.
Ahh mode of absorbtion is very important to me, and reading engages much more of your brain. Im still sitting on my ass, but at least a book makes me work mentally, instead of staring at a screen (for even more time than I am forced to for school or work). All that brain involvement leads to me feeling like I actually did something instead of passively being spoon fed a TV show. Thats just me tho.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Now a days though, Television based story telling has gone up.
Look at the Netflix shows (with no ads mind you)
Look at some of the shows that have been out now such as Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Sherlock, The Flash. Admittedly those are the shows I love and you might not, but you can still see my point.
Also, with every medium there is good and there is bad, TV has Kardasians and all that, Books have Twilight. It just a medium that has to be molded and used the right way, and I think TV is really starting to get up there now.
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mastelsa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:16:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reading actually does engage different parts of your brain, mainly because you have to imagine quite a bit as you're reading. TV can be just as effective for telling a story, but it's not very effective at making us translate words to images. Which is an important mental skill. Reading fiction (as opposed to watching TV) also appears to enhance general brain connectivity and develop empathy. TV/movies are probably the most passive type of media we can consume.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:41:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
yes, reading is much more mentally engaging. Sure you are still sitting around, but at least you are forcing your brain into more activity than just staring at a screen. Thats just me tho
Renyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of depends on the level of interest they have though. You can "just sit and watch" the show, or you can take more active interest by reading the source material, thinking out plot points and details, trying to understand the deeper aspects of a character, and watching and discussing it with friends which can be really fun itself. Especially with something like Anime it can also act as a window into another culture. Yeah, it's not that accurate, but it provides some insight into the music, food, traditions, and language.
Consuming doesn't have to be inactive. It still broadens knowledge and understanding of a subject and can lead to other new interests and ideas.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine if you think watching anime is not your thing, but why is it cringeworthy? That's kind of an extreme reaction, don't you think?
Also anime is not the only hobby where you just "sit there". I don't know why you had to specify anime unless you had something against anime specifically.
I find it socially isolating, friends lost and obsessed with the culture who used to do other activities now just only interact with con-friends. I used to be really into it so this isnt some anti-weebo whatever. sure thats my experience and my opinion. Some people find black lipstick cringeworthy. Idk. let them cringe.
No I guess it's a feeling I have towards movies and TV in general now that I think about it. It's so passive that even when it is good and interesting and educational I just can't stomach it for longer than one movies time. I know movies can engage your brain and emotions but to me it's not fulfilling. Discussions about said movies or anime, cosplay, fan groups, it really doesn't do much for me, I know.
aizxy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:43:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All this is completely true, and explained very well, but that's kind of snortz's point. Some people genuinely aren't interested in hobbies where you are a "creator." I don't think you are trying to say that having a hobby where you are the creator is inherently better than one where you are a consumer, but like you explained, the second is much harder to connect with someone over, so what do you do then?
For me personally, the hobby that mostly closely fits the "creator" role is working out. I love writing workout plans, learning theory about why and how different programs work, your anatomy and its relation to lifting. But if someone asked me what my hobbies are and I said lifting, they would probably be much less interested than if I said something like woodworking or classic car restoration. Unless they are already interested in that topic, people don't usually care enough to want to learn more or listen to you talk about it.
rmphys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
classic car restoration
My friend did this back in college, and its something I really want to get into, but I don't have the time, money, or knowledge.
Weird.. I had almost this exact same thought earlier today when I was reflecting on how I split my time between more interesting creative hobbies like brewing, woodworking and the like and gaming/computer stuff. Realized I needed to look at it through the lens of someone nearing the end of their life. What will I be proud of? The cool table I made or the time I sunk into games? I am going to use this to shift my motivation when I want to complete tasks and feel myself being lazy. It's a case of immediate but fleeting gratification vs. Delayed, enduring gratification.
Nothing wrong with games, of course, I play tons, but everyone can game/watch TV (or any other consumption hobby) so while it can give you a platform to connect with others socially it doesn't really make you unique.
I'm far from a pro, but it was a combination of the latent interest (I looove well-finished wood furniture) running into a motivation surge from a recent breakup. I needed a table for my apartment after my ex and I split up so I started googling for plans and realized pretty quickly I could do it myself. As I browsed around I got more serious and did loads of research on how to make one that would last and be a statement piece etc. I've always been the sort to just dive into stuff and get a little obsessive so it fit well with all thr time I had on my hands.
It can be hard to get into as there is definitely a bit of an equipment barrier to entry but there are ways around it. Maker spaces, community woodshops etc. I was lucky as my dad had loads of old tools around (that he never used) that covered most of my bases. If you have a decent drill, an orbital sander and a table and miter saw (or just a crosscut jig for the table saw) you can do a lot of damage.
Now I need a bed frame I can break down to fit up some stairs so that is my next project.
There's nothing quite like that post-breakup drive for self improvement is there? I've been looking for a new hobby lately and I think I would enjoy a project like that, although probably something simpler than a table haha. Anyways thanks for sharing and good luck on your next project!
Thanks! Doesn't matter what you do or how it turns out, just that you're doing, and learning, something. There tons of DIY guides out there to get you started, all you need is an idea of what you want to do. The folks at /r/woodworking do some amazing stuff and are really helpful too.
What if you just don't want to be a "creator/instigator"?
This is a problem I seem to have.
I have tried different hobbies where I am making something or doing something....and they were not fun at all, nothing has really seemed to get my interest besides watching TV and video games and all that. Just for the fact of its relaxing.
I just plain find it more relaxing to consume then to do/make anything.
Don't get me wrong I just don't sit on my but all day, I have a good job and all that. But on my free time I just like to relax, not really think, and just enjoy a good story/game.
mocylop ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 19:07:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can still be an interesting person with a consumer hobby. It just that you have a much narrower group of people that you will be interesting to.
The key diff. between the two is that in consumer hobbies you need to find someone who is also bought into that hobby for you to really be able to capitalize on it. While in a instigator hobby you can usually grab anyone off the street, and integrate them into your hobby in order to create a memorable experience.
I should also elaborate that these things don't necessarily need to be "hobbies" you know. They don't have to be things that you are super proficient at and are really into. You could literally just enjoy doing "stuff". Like to dance at the bar, go out for drinks, casually play a sport, cook on occasion, or you might like to climb tall things when you get a chance. Like they can be pretty minimal things they primarily just need to be things where you can bring someone who hasn't done them before along for the ride easily.
This is huge. The only sport I would really consider myself "good" at compared to your average Joe is golf. But if you are passable at most sports...know how to dribble and shoot a basketball, throw a spiral, play some tennis....you are set.
Yep. Several of my friends have met their spouse through ending up on the same intramural softball/flag football/volleyball teams.
I'm terrible at basketball, and getting stuffed when you're 5'4" kinda sucks. I'm terrible at making my way towards the basket. But I can still pass, shoot, and screen, and so while I'm never the first pick out of the lineup, I can still play.
I'm not sure if I understand the distinction you're making.
You say that someone has to be "bought in" to a consumer hobby, but how can you take someone camping if they have no boots/sleeping bag/tent?
I can see your point for example, in finding TV shows two people watched separately, and now they can talk about them once they've later met.
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just used that example because I have that extra equipment and if multiple people want to go renting is relatively cheap in my area.
It applies to me but might not be applicable if you live in downtown N.Y. City or something.
The main point is that in passive entertainment someone needs to be interested in the thing before hand to be able to be interested in your conversation, generally speaking. Whereas, in a more interactive hobby you can bring someone in who as little experience with it and give them a fun experience.
I don't think many people would like some of the "stuff" answers.
"So..what do you do for fun?"
"I drink"
"Oh....."
Who knows though.
In any case though, I think the point was you were saying that people should have a "creator/includer" hobby, and I am just saying sometimes, people just don't want one.
mocylop ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:12:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I didn't mean that it was a thing you talked about. I meant it was thing you actively invited people to go do.
And that is fine. Live your life however you want to live it.
Tried to learn Photoshop/do some art-sy kind of stuff
Snorkeling
Camping
Programming for fun (I work with computers for my job, which I enjoy)
Was in a few sports teams when I was a kid but that never clicked.
Right now I am trying to do podcasting which is fun, but it is all about something I like to "consume" (Power Rangers btw) and the guy I do with it with is doing way more with it (he is WAY more outgoing then me and to do something like that you do have to have a sort of "presence" which I can't pull off)
That was just a few of them that I remember.
In the end I try but then just stop cause it feels like there is no "end-goal" as it were so what was the point. Especially when I have more enjoyment, reading comic books and watching "good" TV/Movies ( i know good is relative but you get the idea).
One thing that has clicked is cooking, but I think that clicked a little more cause there is an end goal of "you gotta eat" might as well make it taste good, but even then I don't tend to have fun doing it, like if I did not have to eat would I keep doing it?
Hmmm...I suppose there really isn't an endgoal for those things, except to have fun. But with music and art, I don't think I really started to have fun until I started to feel proud of my accomplishments, even the meager ones. And the first step to being good at something is sucking at something.
You'll never see me knock passive hobbies like Netflix and video games. Check my history and you'll see a lot of Smash Bros posts, ha ha. But there is a beauty in creating a piece of art or writing a song that I don't find in watching TV or playing most video games. And the cool part about creating something is that you can share it with someone special. Like, you can bake a cake or play a song for/with someone.
Ok before I keep talking, just want to point out that I get your point and I am just keeping the conversation going and not trying to send an attack or anything.
Also, FYI I do tend to ramble with these kind of things so if I start to make no sense, my bad.
I see you're point, I really do. I just don't think I am wired that way.
I feel like you should not just have a hobby to share with people just to share(that just seems like your showing off) and I feel like you need to get enjoyment from doing said thing on every step of the process (even if it is hard and you are learning or w/e). Like I get some things take time to learn, but then it goes with to you feel like it's going to be fun to learn this skill. (not saying I want it to be easy, I just want it to be an interesting challenge).
I feel like for me to enjoy an "active" hobby it needs to do 2 things, it needs to have a kind of purpose and it needs to be fun from start to end. If there is no purpose then why am I doing it, and if it is not fun, then it is just work.
This is why I like cooking to a degree cause it fills those 2 roles, but I will never make something just to share, I will make it cause there is a situation (party/potluck/etc) where I need to make it. But then again when I get to my normal day to day stuff where I don't need to cook something interesting....then I don't and I go back to television cause it is relaxing.
mastelsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you tried many crafts? Most crafts require a little bit of economic investment for proper tools and such, but there are lots of things you can learn to do that will both make stuff you can use and that have fun and/or relaxing processes to them. I know plenty of men and women who enjoy knitting/crocheting, which can be done while watching TV. Whittling, wood burning, and woodwork can be great ways to learn a skill while also making unique birthday/holiday presents for people that they wouldn't be able to get at a store. Baking, cake decorating, and candy making is fun and challenging, and you get to eat your results. If you live alone you can always get rid of excess baked goods at work or at a local retirement home--your efforts will not go unnoticed. You don't need a pottery wheel or fancy clay to mess around with sculpting stuff--get yourself some Sculpey and see what you can make. I do these magnets that look like fictional characters out of Sculpey and paint and now I barely have to buy Christmas gifts for anyone. If you get decent at what you do (or if you do something really unique) you can even make it a self-sustaining hobby by selling it on Etsy.
There's definitely a learning curve for all of these things, but when you do them you're working on actual projects that are a little more concrete than scuba or camping. A lot of craft stores offer introductory classes to various crafts, and almost every community college offers low-cost enrichment classes to get you started in stuff like this. You should give it a shot--you might be surprised how crafty you can be.
I see what you're saying, no worries. I'm not taking it as an attack at all. :)
You say that a hobby needs to have an endgoal and it needs to be fun from start to finish. I agree! And for me, drawing or playing guitar meet those requirements: my endgoal is to create something beautiful, and usually the process is fun from start to finish, though I do admit that practicing scales gets old. But I know what you mean about being "wired that way." For instance, I'm not wired to enjoy most team sports, ha ha.
Just to clarify: I don't cook for my friends, or make them art, to show off...I just like to share things with people who appreciate them. By the same token, if someone creates something for me, I never think they're showing off or anything like that. So I can't really relate to that part of your comment, honestly
In the end I try but then just stop cause it feels like there is no "end-goal" as it were so what was the point.
A great way is to set attainable end goals. Learning guitar? Don't set out to master it....just try to learn enough to break out a guitar at a party and play 3-4 popular songs.
Sports is an example for me. I can beat my girlfriend in almost any sport besides tennis. She played in high school, I didn't. My main drive at trying to get better at tennis isn't to be the best, its just to beat her. Its all about setting attainable goals.
End goal might not be the right word actually, I think a better word is purpose.
(note I copied this part from another post)
I feel like for me to enjoy an "active" hobby it needs to do 2 things, it needs to have a kind of purpose and it needs to be fun from start to end. If there is no purpose then why am I doing it, and if it is not fun, then it is just work.
This is why I like cooking to a degree cause it fills those 2 roles, but I will never make something just to share, I will make it cause there is a situation (party/potluck/etc) where I need to make it. But then again when I get to my normal day to day stuff where I don't need to cook something interesting....then I don't and I go back to television cause it is relaxing.
This could just be the way my brain is wired honestly.
In the end I try but then just stop cause it feels like there is no "end-goal" as it were so what was the point. Especially when I have more enjoyment, reading comic books and watching "good" TV/Movies ( i know good is relative but you get the idea).
I think this is where a lot of people differ on their hobbies. I enjoy a lot of my hobbies because there is no limit to what I can achieve, see, or accomplish. I'm always learning new songs on the piano and guitar (or at least I was when I had access to those), checking out new hiking trails to see new sights, hitting smaller and smaller targets further and further away with my rifle, that sort of thing.
You can do this with cooking - you can always try a new dish, and experiment with new ingredients.
Just some of my own food for thought, but to each their own.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need to define your own end goal for each hobby. There are hobbies like learning programming where it's limitless but YOU need to have goals in the hobby.
Perhaps music is a better choice. Hard as fuck at first, but once you get past that true beginner stage it can be great relaxation to play. Plus it is one of the best creator hobbies and everyone enjoys music, including pretty girls.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that's the other side of the coin... I think that is true for pretty much everyone. Consuming is easier than thinking, doing, or producing. If you have a demanding and stressful job, the natural reaction is to use your off time to do things that are not demanding.
But... Most people think they have a stressful job. Rarely will you find a person who says "yeah, work is work, but the nice thing about it is that I leave it feeling energized and ready to tackle the rest of the day." If you are looking for new friends or a date, being someone who has a stressful job and just wants to relax afterward is normal... but not very interesting. Being a person who has a job and who persues interesting, challenging hobbies outside work is (a) more interesting, (b) showing a higher level of general fitness and stamina, (c) showing they have a drive to better themselves and make use of their innate potential. Not that a person who only does their job can't be or demonstrate these things, but having active hobbies demonstrates them more so.
Seeing as this is a thread about making oneself more attractive, I feel it safe to assume that you yourself would be interested in exploiting this idea. If so, I offer these:
1) Make your hobby different than your job. If you are a construction worker, you are probably physically beat, so start off trying something more mental, like learning a new language. Conversely, if you are an engineer, you are probably mentally tired, but not physically tired, so you might try something like weightlifting or parkour ir cycling.
2) Make it social. As an introvert myself, I feel like people make a bigger deal about introversion than really exists. Sure, small talk can be draining, hanging out with people who bore you is draining, but talking about something you are interested with someone you like is almost always enjoyable. Meanwhile, the greatest tool humans have for learning, growing, and creating are our social networks. If you feel like you are part of a community, like people want you around and expect you to be there, sticking to a schedule for your hobbies becomes infinitely easier. Learning and getting good fast is easier when you can quickly ask for help. The hobby becomes cheaper, since you can borrow equipment and materials. Extroverts can often accomplish this socialization by combing their large social networks for other people who are similarly interested. But for introverts, there are more solidified social institutions to help, like clubs, leagues, and businesses (like gyms) where newcomers are welcome.
3) Keep searching until you find something. Really, there is something out there for everyone. You just need to find the right interest with the right community. If you don't have a real idea of what might interest you, start searching the internet fkr things that sound cool. Go to a few related events, meet people, and generally try to make a real effort to see if you like it. If it doesn't work out, who cares? You had one more experience in your lifetime. Even if you end up hating it, at least it is different, and you'll have something to talk about other than "did you see the new episode of xyz?" Just being a person who tries new things makes you more attractive.
3 is so much more important than it may seem on its face. I guess it's just by virtue of our hyper competitive society but once you come to the realization that you're going to fail alot if you ever intend to succeed at anything, things get easier. It may be frustrating, embarrassing, shameful and otherwise unpleasant but you have to push forward because each failure is a teachable moment if you put your ego aside and actually learn from it.
Failures tend to also make good stories once you've managed to reach whatever goals set while also making you seem like a more genuine person. Everyone is willing to talk about how great they are at X as if they didn't fail numerous times. Why not be that person that cuts to the truth and lightens up the room?
klethra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yeah. Of course it's easier and more relaxing. If you find something that engages you, it can put you "in the zone" where it's both challenging and rewarding. The hard part is getting past that first bit where it's challenging, but not rewarding.
See i feel like even the "challenging" parts should be fun to a degree also.
Like why do something as a hobby if it is not fun from start to finish.
klethra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I would say that a lot of hobbies worth doing aren't fun from the very start. Lifting and running are two big ones for me. Neither were the best thing ever on day one, but now I wouldn't want to miss a day.
Again, it's not really a problem, we are just talking about ways of being more attractive or interesting, and being that creator or instigator is always going to be more interesting than someone who just consumes media, because well, anyone could sit there and watch those same shows, and the end result is the same.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watching Gilmore Girls might be something you want to bring up, though. People that like Gilmore Girls have good taste.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:59:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:07 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't believe how many replies I got that are essentially "I am nerd and women are shallow and will never seem my greatness".
Yeah, the important thing about instigator/creator hobbies is that they tend to create adventure and get you out of the house by themselves. If not that, then they leave you with concrete evidence of time well spent. An example would be a painting you finished. The important part is that you have to grow as a person to pursue the hobby. It's less about doing things that impress others, and more about doing things that impress yourself, and having evidence left over that you can impress yourself.
Kayaking is my favorite hobby and one i'd highly recommend, if you're kayaking on a lake you're going to get great exercise, it's so relaxing just to float in the water and look to shore, or if you want more thrills take it to a river.
Raknarg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know... I usually come out of my Call of Duty sessions with a better understanding of my mother, and the number of prepubescent boys she's had intercourse with.
Zbruhbro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is stuff that I can bring someone along and teach them something, see something cool, and share a memorable experience.
Something I have done time and time again with video games...
mocylop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm not saying your experiences are invalid, at least I don't intend to.
These are pretty broad strokes that I'm making here, and they won;t cover every possibility.
Renyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, video games can definitely be a bonding experience and a great way to meet new people. Depends on what you're playing of course.
Helium_3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That honestly depends, if you create content from a video game (streaming, YT channels) it's no longer a consumer hobby, though I'm not sure how many people would be interested in your popular twitch steam.
sylendar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, this was an eye opening way of explaining things. I can't believe I didn't see hobbies like this before.
I get what you are saying, and agree for the most part. However, I'd argue that just HAVING hobbies and interests makes you more attractive, whether or not you SHARE them with your date. For example, if I'm on a date and ask 'What do you do for fun?' and the person says 'nothing, really. I work a lot.' I have nothing I can follow up with. Whereas if they say the play video games, I can ask which games, why they like them, if they play with people online, what was their first video game, etc and the conversation keeps going, and the fact that they can answer those questions is more attractive. I do NOT play video games, but if someone does, or any other consumer hobby, it's still better than having nothing. OR, if it's an obscure hobby, I still find it interesting because making stained glass lamps is something I have no interest in doing myself, but sure have a lot of questions about.
mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, having something you like to do is better than being an empty vessel.
This post is in a weird place between dating and how to be interesting. I;m aiming more towards how to be interesting to other people in a very general sense. If you've got a date there is already a certain amount of buy in from your partner.
Good point. I feel like a lot of this advice is how to LOOK more attractive (which is helpful), but I read it as BE more attractive. I guess I'm thinking of the very good looking, yet boring people that I know. Or the very interesting yet 'wouldn't give a second look on the street' people. Either way, it appears that the first step is to be clean!
Exaskryz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, except not of those instigator hobbies are fun or shareable if they are. I mean, the most instigation of my hobbies that I have is basic coding, otherwise it's reading up on stuff on the internet or watching youtube videos or playing video games.
Edit: How about board games? Are those any better than video games? Though I'd imagine that nice multiplayer games are far better than the solo games that you listed (I think those games are solo..?)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've got it pretty much dead on here. When I want to talk about the "gaming" facet of my life, I talk about how I super enjoy building performance PC's, from research and purchase to personal assembly and planning of complex systems like liquid cooling mods.
I can come up with a million excuses as to why I only have video games as a hobby, but I'll skip that and just ask if you have any ideas for some people who may be looking for a new hobby but can't afford the typical things or have the space for larger hobbies?
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It kinda depends on where you live and your interests. I live around a bunch of state/national parks so outdoorsy stuff is relatively easy for me.
I also think people harp on hobbies a bit too much, and yes I just made a giant post about hobbies.
Really though the broader idea is to be an interesting person, and you don't need to be hardcore into any specific hobby to do that. You just need to do stuff that people find interesting, that you can invite people to, and that define who you are in its on little way.
Invite folks out to the bars or the beach or whatever activity. People like being invited places, or like I enjoy climbing tall things. Its not really a hobby of mine but its a thing I do. So sometimes when I meet someone i mention it and occasionally take someone to a really cool tall place I found. It isn't a hobby or anything. Just something I enjoy that I can invite other people to do with me.
I realize I am rambling a bit, but I personally feel it is a lot more important just to find things that you enjoy and do a bunch of them. Live life on your feet and don't be afraid to invite others to do stuff with you.
choss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing response, if you are from my opposite sex I would be so into you right now.
AAA1374 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand, gaming is a very good bond between people who have something in common. It can enhance a relationship to have that link there- but definitely keep in mind that there are other great hobbies that often times sound better for a date. But don't pretend you don't game if you do though- it just gets awkward.
sidepart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why brewing beer worked out so well for me. I'm the creator and consumer...
Cobertos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what if you do something that takes up a lot of time but can't be done with other people? I feel I can't date because I have a hobby that takes up much of my time. I program a bunch but I can't really share that with someone else unless they have a good grasp on that. I would think it would be the same with woodworking. For both of these you would need to find someone who is actively interested in that hobby to be able to share it effectively. Are there non-consumer hobbies that this just doesn't work with?
mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With that kind of stuff you can dumb it down a bit.
Say you made an app for the Iphone. Don't talk about the code behind it. Talk about what inspired you to make it and the problems you were hoping to solve. Hell pull your phone out and show it off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is just stigma really playing kickball takes no more or less effort then playing a moba. Also why the word intramural is there something more special about playing kickball inside or for an institution vs. regular kickball. As far as I can see this would only give you credibility... as a kickball player... which is really lame. I'd rather tell someone I played dota.
mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no. I just did some intramural kickball at one point in my life. You can do whatever kind of kickball you want!
It isn;t about effort. Its about making interesting experiences for others. If I hit it off with someone I am hanging out with I can invite them out to play kickball with us and we have a nice way to hang out and get to know each other more. To build up shared experiences and have some fun. I can't do the same with Dota 2.
If a person already likes Dota 2 we can bond over that, but I can;t just randomly invite someone to play.
It isn't about effort. It is about being interesting to other people and one way to do that is to include them in your life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dota2 smashbros, marioparty, cooking mama. I think it's about age as far as that goes though. The younger the person the more likely they will be willing to try something dealing with technology.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hit global elite in csgo, 3 years ago when it meant something
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hit global elite in csgo, 3 years ago when it meant something
jesset77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fine, then I create video games. Or I stream on Twitch. Record let's play's for Youtube? Administrate game servers? GM D&D?
I would say that cracking open Eclipse and hammering out some fresh interactive content for either the Unity or Unreal engines in Java or C# would count as a "production" hobby. You are creating things that other people get to consume.
However, I would challenge you that nothing of this sort is ever going to qualify you as a "babe magnet". :/
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The idea isn't that you are a "babe magnet" but that you are an interesting person who leads a fulfilling life and does something cool.
If you literally made a game in Unity that makes you an interesting person. How many people does a person know who makes games?
The aim is to be a complex individual.
jesset77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:05 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The aim is to be a complex individual.
No, the topic of the thread is "What are some simple things you can do to make yourself more attractive?". I offered these examples to demonstrate how what you may generously call being a complex individual is completely orthogonal to the goal of being found attractive to other people.
And let's be honest: deadbeats with no jobs who can score 1million on guitar hero tend to be found significantly lacking in attractiveness, while deadbeats with no jobs who can pick up a guitar instead of a guitar-shaped controller and actually play covers of at most one or two the songs from the game tend to be found significantly higher on the attractiveness scale.. even though the actual skills involved in either feat are nearly indistinguishable.
In contrast, the gainfully employed and motivated person who actually creates a game like guitar hero rates lower in attractiveness than the hobo with a guitar because reproducing the same song everyone's already heard before strays into courtship territory while creating basically anything computer-related is viewed as staunchly the opposite.
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:33 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who are you people?
Like honest to god I've gotten I don't know how many replies that are basically repetitions of some "Woe is me for I am nerd and women are only attracted to shallow men".
No, the topic of the thread is "What are some simple things you can do to make yourself more attractive?".
And being a complex individual who has opinions, and is passionate about something in their lives is attractive. You get to that point by hundreds of tiny decisions you make every fucking day. Talk to someone and talk about what you are passionate about and take an interest in their lives. Invite them to go do something fun.
If you code don't sit there and talk about shit they don't know about. Tailor the conversation to the person. Talk code to coders and ideas and reasons to non-coders.
FFS I talked to a girl at a party about my Warhammer 40K models. She was an artist and I paint my own models. So I talked about how I painted them and the tricks I used and my visual goals. I did not talk to her about how the game of 40K is played. I tailored that conversation to her so that we could share a common interest.
lrginger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that is probably the best GY!BE reference I've ever seen
Wow! This really resonated with me. It's also made me realize that if I want to do more things to add value to my life, to focus less on consumer activities and start engaging in more creative/instigator stuff.
Yeah by saying your hobby is video games you are basically saying "I like to not concentrate on others around me but rather on my own skill that is portrayed digitally on a screen."
I love playing Smash Bros with the bros but it's not because I am trying to teach them a unique experience that requires a decent amount of practice. I just wanna stare at the screen and work on my own personal skill so I can kick their ass!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is true to an extent. You aren't literally creating anything. However, you can create experiences for people.
If I invite someone canoeing I create what is hopefully a fun and memorable experience for them. In a way I am creating fun.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm intentionally painting in a very broad brush here. That works but you also aren't gonna meet someone and invite them to play League with you when they aren't a already decent capable at playing League. Whereas it is a lot easier to break down other complicated things to newcomers.
chumothy ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 17:33:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if you're already on the date, you've been deemed attractive enough for a date, so you're farther along than I think OP was asking. Part of dating is finding the right person. It's about sizing each other up for compatibility, it's not about making a sale. If your hobby is video games, and that turns someone off, then you can decide that person may not be right for you.
Additionally, people may not give video games the same weight as other hobbies, because it may be seen as the equivalent to "I like music/movies." Lots of people like those things. If you're really passionate about it, you may be able to express a deeper interest or more active involvement than the average person. And that would make you interesting and attractive to a lot of people.
If somebody's less interested in you because you mention "video games" as a hobby, that doesn't necessarily mean that they look down on it/don't think it's a valid way to spend time, it might just mean that they think you must be a bit boring if the only thing you can think of as a hobby is "video games". It's like if a woman said "shopping" was her only hobby. It's not necessarily a bad hobby, it's just that it's not particularly interesting.
After reading this sub thread I'm just glad my girlfriend plays video games too.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:59:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why OP basically said you need to bring more to the table than just "I like video games."
If you have an anecdote of an old school game or something, bring it up. I'm not talking about just beating your friends, but if you can use it to segway into a story about how you got the game you always wanted for your 14th Christmas and then your older brother took it out back and burned it in the trash out of spite, boom. So many potential conversations right there.
You can segway into how you and your brother are best friends now, or ask about their fondest Christmas, or hey, if they like video games too, you can go deeper into that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's an issue. If you said you were into speedrunning video games, or you were into competitive video games, or you were into retro video games, that's a bit more interesting. If your hobby is video games, you need to ask yourself what you like about video games and convey that specific aspect, rather than just video games in general.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that might just be the case for everything. For example saying sports is meaningless. Which sports?
Well, yeah. That's exactly what Moozilbee was saying.
BigMax ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:57:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you have to already be on a date before hobbies can make you more attractive. Just having something interesting to say to someone in a conversation can make you more attractive. And if it's a hobby you like, you get the bonus of having something interesting to say, as well as having something that brightens you up when you say it.
For example, "what did you do this weekend?" is a conversation starter that we have all been asked at some point. If you have a hobby you love, saying "I went rock climbing a the most beautiful place!" is a more interesting and attractive answer than "not much, just hung around at home."
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:56:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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BigMax ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:11:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're kind of backing up my point... Maybe you're projecting, but I never said that an interest in good films or literature wouldn't be considered interesting. Having an interest or hobby about something is good, and gives you a great way to engage in small talk while seeming more interesting
chumothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree, but their comment seemed to be focused on what they were going to talk to while they were on a date, so that's what I was responding to.
I think this is the most important point made so far. You shouldn't try to be something you're not just to meet somebody. You'll live the rest of your life lying to that person and yourself and won't be happy.
Exactly. The goal of dating is to find a companion who you are compatible with, so there isn't much point in hiding your hobbies and interests because if it's a deal breaker for them, you're much better off finding that out right away.
Own your passions, and if they dislike you for it both of you are better off parting ways anyway. The hope is that you'll find someone who either shares your passions, or is at least cool with them (and, more importantly, who you are as a person. Which really is the bigger factor vs. shared interests anyway)
Talk about whatever interests you. If your relationship is going anywhere they will find out anyway. And it is better to be up front and have someone become interested in the actual you, than for them to find out you are not the "interesting" person you (mis)led them into believing, later on. That doesn't foster trust and wastes both parties time.
jicty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:50:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, I don't get why people lie on dates. The only time that is a good idea is if you are trying for a one night stand. I should know, I am a successful doctor and I have just started training for a nasa space mission.
[deleted] ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 17:28:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly can't really open up with sooo..... Pathfnder or Dungeons and Dragons?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, that's your problem right there. There are far more tabletop RPGs than those two. What if they're really into Mutant Chronicles?
I've played Pathfinder and DMed 5e. Pathfinder is great, but I still prefer 5e for the simpler mechanics. I'm a role-play first, mechanics second guy though.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:43:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here man playing pathfinder is more difficult than dming a session of 5e lol
Oh geez. Just looking at one monster stat table gives me the shivers. I like that 5e drops pretty much every but 6 abilities, HP and AC, and their attacks. That's all you need to know to handle most monsters.
I've been playing and DMing 3.5 for a few years, and now mostly Pathfinder. I've heard on many occassions that 5e is pretty good, but what's so good about it? Could you tell me what parts of it you like most?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:56:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It removes a lot of situational bonuses/penalties and replaces them with advantage/disadvantage which is rolling 2 d20 and taking the higher for advantage or lower for disadvantage. It makes it faster and simpler. Feats are now much more powerful and rare they are taken instead of a stat increase. They define the character.
Another great part is backgrounds which are mostly roleplay related histories of the character and what they did before they were a adventurer. It grants some roleplay boon and gives you skills.
Neat, thanks! I had heard of the advantage/disadvantage before but didn't know it was anything like this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The way I've heard it described is that unless you started with it 5e is everyone's second favourite edition. It's an overall much more simplified and streamlined experience which is both why a lot of people (Like me) love it and a lot of people (Understandably) don't.
Perhaps when I'm done DMing my current campaign I'll try out 5e for the next campaign. I've just heard so many people support it that I've gotten curious.
Joke's on you. Gandalf died and had to reroll. Of course the unimaginative jerk just built the same character again. At least he rolled higher Int the second time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah man he got the boss kill and leveled up.
folderol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother said that to me the other day. I was asked if I'd started playing a game by a friend. I said in a really drab unemotional voice, "Yeah I started the campaign last night," as if I'd just started some inevitable chore. He just said, "fucking neeeerds!!". We are both in our 40's.
On December 23rd, I dove back into the world of pen and paper RPG's with a reunion of highschool friends after a near 15 year break. Jumping from 3.5e to 5e is going to be interesting.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a lot simpler I think you will like it. Moves a lot faster and more fun less math.
Diredoe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My introduction to D&D was 4th ed, and while I enjoyed it (at first... it gets awful unwieldy awful quick), my friends who played every edition of D&D from the beginning has said that 5th is hands-down the best.
As one friend put it, "It's like 3.5 but done right!"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me it'll be easier then jumping from 5e to 3.5 would be.
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was mostly teasing. I've not gone past 5. I'm only doing Pathfinder at the moment. I've been thinking about getting into other RPGs, but I just don't have the time right now. Stupid real life.
Is there an online resource for 5e like there is for Pathfinder? I might be joining a 5th edition campaign but I know little about it relative to Pathfinder lol
Google 5e Basic Rules - it gives you enough to run the game for a couple of levels with limited options, the other commenter doesn't know what they're talking about.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres a nifty android phone app for 5e character sheets and one for DM tools. Can't run a campaign on 'em but they help organize things. Fifth Edition Character Sheet and Fifth Edition DM Tools. By Walter Kammerer. They're very useful but they do get taken down every now and then
genapsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just started a 5th Ed game myself and I enjoyed pf much more. Have to see what expansions come out though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How come?
genapsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just my opinion, though i find that the the current edition falls flat somewhere between the streamlined style of 2nd and the simple and easy mechanics of 4th ed. Just to me its that everything works decidedly, while i like a little bit of interpretation flexibility. All separate they are fine parts of a good roleplaying game, I just don't like them together.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have found a few people who say the same. What parts don't you like together?
There are so many feats, spells, archetypes, etc. in Pathfinder that you can build some pretty ridiculous characters. My last character built in Pathfinder was a level 8 wizard who specialized in grappling, and he was actually pretty scary. When he has the chance to buff himself before a fight he has a CMB of 21, often allowing him to take down things a size category above him (which with enlarge person is very big). His shirt of immolation also did damage whenever he was grappling, and I think his hair could even grapple someone while he was grappling someone else. Good luck doing that in 5e.
That having been said, 5e has it's benefits also. I just find it's character creation to be restrictive.
atsu333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I personally find the addition of class archetypes to continually bring more to the table in character creation in Pathfinder. However, I'm giving 5E a chance, my PHB arrives tomorrow, and then I just need to find a game to join...
Of course I also feel like my love of Pathfinder comes from initially learning in a 3.5 environment, then seeing the light of pathfinder about 5 years in, as well as the free SRD that contains (at least almost) everything released in the books themselves.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From looking at the Core Rulebook for 5e, I'm not sure I like the advantage/disadvantage system which seems to be an integral part of the edition. It seems to me like most of the time it just means you'll always pass these rolls and fail those rolls. Granted I've never played 5e so feel free to prove me wrong.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not at all it works out to be about a + or -5 its far from guaranteed you will pass or fail. A weak skill will still have a high chance of failing even with advantage in some cases.
What's better about 5e? I've only ever played Pathfinder.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a lot faster combat take far less time, enemies stay relevant for longer due to bounded accuracy a lot of the simple +1 to this and +1 to that have been removed. Situational bonuses are instead advantage/disadvantage based. You have background of what your character did before adventuring and that helps some roleplay.
Feats are much larger combining 2 or 3 pathfinder type feats and they are an optional thing instead of mandatory. They are taken instead of a stat increase, each feat however has so much impact it defines your character.
I identify most with Arthur in the Guide, which probably puts me squarely in the "not quite as fun as Ford or Zaphod, but at least a bit more fun than Marvin" category.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:42:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They see me rollin my d20
jaybusch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if those fail, just bring out your hugging pillow. That's sure to start a conversation.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
yumcake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're otherwise an attractive person to the date, Pathfinder or D&D in and of itself can be pretty interesting hobbies to discuss with someone. Vin Diesel played D&D, and you can be sure he's slain plenty of pussy in his life. People are drawn to confidence. I'm pretty certain he wouldn't talk about his time with the game, or himself in a self-effacing manner, and he's got the social skills to talk about it like a normal person who loves a pasttime, rather than an obsessive person who's oblivious to whether or not the other person is interested or would prefer to change the topic.
Or take Jeff Cannata. The guy's extremely passionate about boardgaming, but he's also got the rest of his shit together. Sociable, happy with himself, and well-groomed. He's also an example of the kind of person who'd certainly be able to explain Pathfinder to a stranger without putting someone off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude if you keep with that line your entire life, eventually, you will meet a fine lady who can rock your world in ad&d.. and then she will diss you for a higher level wizard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Psh like I am going back to thaco. Not a chance 3rd edition and up is the only way to live.
milky228 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That kind of question is how you end up with a 30 minute lecture on why you should be playing PBTA.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um... Yes it is. If video games were my primary hobby I'd be open about that. If the date I'm on isn't accepting of it then, then that's a good thing for me. Better I learn that sooner than later.
And you might discover she likes games, too! Like a zillion of us do.
I can't get over the generalization or assumption that women don't game (though I'm not accusing you of that). It's so weird to me.
Skoma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
While I agree to some extent, in my experience you can have virtually any hobby (within reason, animal torture is a hard sell) and have a good conversation about it as long as you are passionate about it and can explain it in a way that makes them see why you enjoy it so much.
For example: I used to LOVE playing video games with my little brother as a kid. Most of the time he was a pain in the ass and I couldn't stand him following me around all the time, but we really bonded over old games like Mario Kart and Zelda. As we got older and moved away, gaming has been a great way for me to stay in touch with him and old friends who might otherwise have fallen completely out of touch. It doesn't hurt that it's SO much fun --way better than tagging each other on Facebook or talking about our boring Tuesday on Skype. With just a computer and the internet we can all be together for a few hours, playing through crazy stories or just goofing off. It's almost like we never moved apart. That connection is really important to me.
You can talk about admiring the work that goes into game design and how your interests fall in line with that, or storytelling or music, comparing it to great films or composers, show them how gaming has become a real experience.
Why DO you game/ Even if it's because you have no friends you can spin that in your favor lol.
Speak for yourself, man. I have a crush on this guy at my school and the few times that we talked we takes about tv shows and he mostly talked about video games. I could listen to boys talk ardently about their passions, whatever they may be, for hours. I want to know you. If video games are important to you, then tell me.
Saw a profile on tinder earlier "if you play video games, don't even try" to which I thought upon swiping right "How easily can I hide the fact that I play video games occasionally?"
Therein lies the frustration of looking for interesting dating profiles, most girls just list off things like this as interests. They probably feel the same when I say I'm into video games though.
Kabufu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:09:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the worst are the ones who write "Too many to list!" and then write none. Like that's cute or endearing somehow.
At least when someone writes "I like video games" at least you can ask, "Which video games?" It's not a great conversation, but at least it's something. The "Too many to list!" response gives the sender no hooks to start a conversation.
Thankfully there's fewer of those. The most frustrating is when I find someone who is very cute but all they have listed is an interest in movies, tv, cooking, and the outdoors. And then a generic list of common popular movies and shows as their favorites. It feels really hard to dsicuss TV shows in an interesting fashion, for example. There's nothing to hook onto for an introductory message.
Look for intellectuals instead if you're doing online dating. I have plenty of female friends who are not ugly who are into specific types of literature, the arts, and actually going out and doing things (hiking & going to concerts mostly). Yeah, they're not bubbly and they're a bit introverted, but worth talking to versus chicks with generic interests.
trouty ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:19:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It shouldn't be frustrating. Descriptions like you mentioned save you the time spent eventually reaching the realization, "shit... literally the only thing this girl/guy does is sit on the couch and watch movies." Does not sound like a relationship worth pursuing, imo.
Yes but now I've browsed a ton of profiles and have no messages sent. I'm getting nowhere. Realistically in-person chemistry is more important than any of these things and you can't tell that from their profile.
trouty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:41:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely true. For my own anecdote, I've been in a relationship for two years with a girl I met on tinder. I was on the app for almost a week before talking to her and found myself saying the same shit to everyone and everything getting depressingly formulaic. Her description read something like "accountant/yoga/student" - I didn't read a ton into it. But instead I skipped the usual spiel and just asked her to meet me for a drink that evening. Long story short, we moved in together a few months later and have spent very few days apart since.
I guess I was only able to try that approach just once (lol), but it was way more enjoyable than texting each other stupid things for several days before actually meeting them in person and realizing they're a dud. Maybe shits changed, but I'd think it's best to use the chat feature for dating websites to confirm a) not a robot, b) not a serial rapist, and c) not a complete douche (tinder pick-up artist, etc.)
For the record, my description was something like:
25 years old. 6'4 drummer & architect.
Yes, I pulled the height card. Guilty as charged, lol. It worked.. or did it fail miserably if the ultimate goal of tinder is the one-night-stand?
I don't know, I'm a woman and it's generally dead pan when I say outside of work (which is with dogs) that I have an amateur dog sled team. Almost seems like I'd be better off with "I watch a lot of Netflix?"
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:04:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I see you are also familiar with online dating.
rezachi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Travel can definitely be a hobby. I do it for both work and fun, you just have to make sure that you go out and do something more interesting than "I sat in my hotel because I had to do something in the morning."
With the exception of Netflix, all of that you listed are generally social activities with other people. And please don't defend using steam chat or ventrillo/teamspeak as social activities
If you play Magic: The Gathering, be sure to shave your beard below halfway down your neck, and keep it tidy. While you're at it, be sure to work out regularly and maintain a healthy body weight.
Or you could just wear a belt and get rid of the fedora. Either way, make sure you don't look like the stereotype.
Why would you not bring video games up on a date? If video games are actually a big part of your life, don't lie about it! I'm having trouble understanding why you'd pretend to be somebody else on a date. That's just setting yourself up for failure.
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. While programming is nerdy my wife likes that I do it because she can brag about how I am smart (which I'm not, I'm terrible at math and she is way smarter) and can tell people projects I have worked on that are a big deal. I'm also into mentoring other people as well, so I teach a few hours a week for free because I like it.
I also mountain bike and kayak a lot.
Those hobbies work because they have value. My late night gaming addiction does nothing. However my interest in music does since I am a go to for all of our friends for new music.
Exodan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feh, first date with my girlfriend of 3 years had talk of Halo, Final Fantasy and what MMO's we had played. Speak for yourself, mate.
Unless the girl is really into games. Yes, actual gamer girls do exist, it's just that the attractive gamer guys usually snag them up. Really, the best way to be initially attractive to someone is to be visually attractive. If you're visually attractive, those gamer girls will actually talk to you and hear what you have to say and see how attractive you are on the inside.
Of course there are exceptions, but for the most part that's how the world works.
__Peak__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Videogames are so mainstream now, I really don't think that the majority of women would scoff at it.
addama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that if you love video games, that is exactly the time to bring it up. If it's important to you, and it turns them off, maybe that's not a good fit. Either you'll have to give up your favorite hobby, or you'll just be sitting around unknowingly in limbo until they get frustrated with it and you have to deal with it in a much more involved situation.
You kidding me? My boyfriend and I love gaming together. Fucking hatless scrub is almost on my level too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You dating the wrong people? I mean... in my relationship, playing Mario Kart IS a date. We're on the more casual end of the gamer scale, but if someone thinks a hobby you're really into is crap, they're not the person for you. I mean... as long as gaming doesn't interfere with everyday things like bathing, paying your bills... it's cool.
if you love video games, thats not something you want to bring up when youre on a date
I bring this up on every date I go on. Most women don't seem to give a shit. They may not be into it, but they don't care. A lot of men like video games.
ianme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no reason not to bring up your love for video games... if you enjoy it, talk about it. If you're going to date this person, they should know you like video games. If they blow you off because you like video games then... on the next.
Depends on how you say it and how she responds. Whenever I'm asked what I'm into, I rattle off a short list of things. Whichever one peaks her curiosity is the one I go more in depth with.
If she isn't receptive to videogames but you keep going on about them, then it isn't gonna end well.
If videogames are your only hobby, then I'd suggest putting an effort into finding some more. That way you not only have more options in your free time, you have more avenues to connect over and more interesting conversation starters.
dssx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've brought up video games on dates. If you're embarrassed about yourself, that's unattractive. I unabashedly will say I play video games. I'm not proud of it nor am I ashamed. I love gaming just as I also love hiking or playing sports or whatever.
Also, because I love gaming, and because I imagine who I date may end up being who I marry, I want to know ASAP if they're gonna give me grief about gaming in my free time.
Is that really a problem that not all people have compatible interests?
prennis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If you love video games, why wouldn't you want to mention that on a date? If your date also loves video games, your love of video games will probably only make you seem more attractive to them. Unless you aren't interested in getting into a relationship, you have to be honest about who you are, or else you'll find yourself in a relationship with a person who doesn't know (or worse, doesn't care) who you really are.
stufff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. I like video games. I'm going to spend a lot of my free time playing video games, reading about games news, listening to game podcasts, going to game events. Ideally and historically my mate would join me in these activities but at a bare minimum needs to be aware and tolerant of them. I have too many friends who aren't "allowed" to play much any more.
If you game enough to call it a hobby, your better off being upfront about it in the long run.
Yes you should, you should be yourself. If your hobby is video games don't be afraid to mention it because the person you want to be with is cool with it and the person you don't want to be with wont be. Why are you trying to win over women who won't like who you are?
You can say you enjoy video games, but if that's all you enjoy you're probably boring. Pick up another hobby or two, singing, pottery, crafting, guitar, woodworking, hiking, tennis, dancing, whittling, whatever. Most people aren't super impressed if your personality literally does not exist outside of video games. This applies to women too, nobody wants to date that weird chick at work who doesn't go outside because she's sitting in the same spot she was 14 hours ago playing LoL. They are much more interested in the girl who plays an hour or two per day but also loves to go camping, paints, and plays racquetball. She's much more well-rounded.
Of course, two people who love nothing more than spending 16 hours straight playing games might be perfectly happy together, but if that's what you're hoping for you have an extremely tiny pool of potential mates.
I've had photos purchased by national corporations and top posts in the sfw-porn network but when I say I like photography it's invariably the, "That's nice dear" treatment.
You better be damn fucking good at video games. So good, that you can do your dissertation on that video game. If you're like, "I play cuz fun." Sorry, can't do it. But lets take Counter Strike for example. If you can sit down, draw out the map, draw in set pieces to optimize crossfire, discuss rotation strategies. That's awesome as hell. Or if you play quake. You better know when all the map power ups are. Or that thing with fighters where you're looking at frame rates to block/strike (or something...I don't really play fighters)......sick as fuck man!
But if it's like, "I like playing because it's fun? Not interesting. "I'm having fun," isn't an interesting topic.
I think video games are fine as a hobby, but it's simply not a very interesting one. The majority of the younger population are at least casual gamers. Plus, it's a rather lazy hobby. You're not doing much besides sitting there and pressing some buttons. I think a hobby should either be something interesting or something physically or mentally demanding (yes, yes, I know that video games can be mentally demanding. But that's usually not why most people play them) - at best both. For example, soccer isn't really interesting, but it's something that keeps you fit. It's a sign that you're probably in somewhat good shape. Or take something like lockpicking - it's not terribly exhausting, and every fat slob can do it, but it's something unusual. Way cooler than video games if you want to bring it up in a conversation.
nahfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man. I have a few hobbies but one of them is fish tanks and Aquascaping. That's one I never bring up unless others do and I don't go into it how much. I may say "oh man I love fish tanks" if they're mentioned then if someone chimes in I can tell them more in depth. Shit, even when people come over and see my bitching underwater forest and say they like it I just go "yep, me too" that said I do have other hobbies which arent so weird
Lanoir97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, messaged a tinder match approximately 36-48 hours over 5 days, said I play video games in my spare time. She hasn't said anything since, and that was 3 days ago.
I dunno. Sometimes it can score big points if you're looking for a fellow gamer. I wore my "Old School" tee shirt with Clyde on it to my first date with someone I was set up with.
But I knew he was a gamer and I wanted someone who wouldn't judge me (he totally does) for loudly excaiming when my Pokeball didn't stay closed or some boss kicked my ass for the upteenth time because I'm out of potions.
Nearly three years later and we game side by side. So maybe not totally mention it if you don't know the other person well. But it can be a good way to bond.
I kinda feel its exactly the kind of thing you bring up on a date. Me for example, if you like video games, you're like 50% there, I already have the next 3 dates planned out in my head. However some girls (crazy ones) really despise video games, and you don't want to end up with someone who is gonna bitch at you every time you wanna have a little fun.
memicoot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a good hobby!
enarc13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you feel ashamed of your hobbies. I love video games, so I always brought it up on dates because it's going to come up at some point. If I'm on a first date with a girl and her response to me loving video games is something along the lines of "aren't video games for children?" or "video games are stupid" then I know not to waste any more time. Eventually I found a girl who also loves them, and 2.5 years later we're still together and currently playing Lego Marvel Super Heroes together.
The exception to the rule here is if you're just trying to find someone to fuck, then by all means say whatever it takes.
unless you make youtube gaming video's and get 10million + views a month, which is around $30K/month in income. Then again, i wouldn't mention that either....
Well you know what. I proved myself the opposite. I've always been a huge gamer, and yeah, it's not the subject you'd bring in a date right?
I'm now also competing in gaming. I'm traveling for tournaments, helping run tournaments and even host streams. And to my biggest surprise this prove very interesting to a lot of girls I met. They were simply curious about someone passionate about what he does. They would even watch the videos just out of curiosity. Someone dedicated and passionate is cool. You just have to know how to present it.
If you love video games, you should absolutely bring it up, especially if you're looking for a partner who also likes gaming.
What you might want to avoid is something like "yeah, on weekends I roll out of bed and play WoW for 12 straight hours without bathing," or only talking about video games.
I feel like a lot of relationships get off to a bad start precisely because people try to hide things and present an idea of themselves versus who they actually are. I think Hitch had a nice quote about this with maybe not showing the whole picture, but showing the real you.
I mean, ask yourself - if you really love gaming in your free time, are you going to be happy with a partner who despises it, or thinks less of you for it?
Yes, it is. Look, you get into a relationship, she's going to find out you play video games. It looks worse if you don't own up to it. If she's going to judge you for it, then you want to get that out of the way as well.
What if you don't have any? I haven't ever had any interests, hobbies, or passions.
catlast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No interests at all? I'd suggest just trying some different creative projects, anything. You'll have to find that passion or hobby. I feel as though I don't as well, but it's just a lack of motivation for me.
None at all. Never have. I've tried loads of stuff, both creative and just normal activities. Never been the creative type, more logical than creative. It's worth mentioning it's likely caused by the depression I've had for over 15 years. Or maybe the depression is caused by not having anything worthwhile or enjoyable in life. Who knows. All I know is I've done a ton of crap and none of it has ever tickled my fancy. It's come to the point where I honestly do not believe that every human has some hobby or passion out there that they just haven't discovered yet. Some of us just don't have that out there.
Try cooking. Cooking is kind of science based and women love a guy who can cook (and vice versa)! It doesn't take much to learn basics (googling recipes, or browsing cooking subreddits) and is very impressive. Or maybe astronomy? Those are also very cool hobbies
Took both cooking and astronomy about 8 years ago in high school, I did not enjoy them. I feel like I've done something at least closely related to every hobby and passion out there, and none of its enjoyable. Sure, some things are better than others. I'd rather race go karts than pick up dog crap and mow the lawn. But racing go karts and things like that are no where near enjoyable enough to warrant the misery required from working to survive and afford those things. Nothing is worth it.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I've tried to find other hobbies, but all I really enjoy are video games. And, like other posters have said, it's not even a "real" hobby.
Have you ever tried getting into the r/c or quad copter crowd? As a video gamer a lot of the experience easily translates as controls are fairly similar to console racing and flight Sim games. Not to mention you receive satisfaction from building your own high performance quad copter or r/c vehicle.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:53:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you talking about tying flies for fishing? My boyfriend is just starting to get into fly fishing now, and tying his own flies. It makes him happy, which makes me happy.
For heaven's sake, yes. Nothing is more boring than a SO who can only speak about The Bachelor, clothes, and work gossip. I don't care if you like politics, chemistry, programming, horticulture, stamp collecting, gaming, Japanese literature, or technology. Just be interested in something and tell me all about it.
... that don't involve playing video games all day. Make sure the hobby you choose allows you to develop a useful skill (like painting or playing an instrument), gets you outside the house (like hiking or fishing), or gets you "out there" with other people (like golf or community theatre).
Nothing wrong whatsoever with video games occasionally (some people have a beer to unwind, some play Fallout or something) but as a former "gamer" do NOT make games your defining hobby. The perception is getting better but video games are still mainly seen as the hobby of choice for the socially awkward or those who simply don't try in life. 90% of the gamers I knew fell into one of those camps... and as an adult, it's unfortunately the second one (video games require little effort to master compared to learning how to play the piano or learning the techniques to oil paint - video games are an easy vehicle, like alcoholism, to achieve a certain level of satisfaction).
But mainly, all those hours spent mashing buttons and clicking the mouse can be used to develop other skills... I could have mastered several instruments, gotten in awesome shape and written some killer short stories in all those hours wasted in front of the computer and television.
If you're wanting to date and someone's top hobby is video games... well, as a former gamer, run for the hills. If they aren't discussing video games they are the most boring people ever.
EDIT: And yes, I understand that some people can make a living playing video games - I get that. But for the millions of players, only the top 1% ever make it to that level. It's no different from sports like hockey or football so get off your high horses.
Fiurilli ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:14:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does the hobby have to be a skill? One of my hobbies is watching movies and I enjoy that the most when I have someone I can have a discussion with about the movie (what it did well, what it did bad and the like).
Also another hobby I enjoy is playing boardgame just because I like the strategical thinking that most games have and the heavy social aspect that comes with it, am I now domehow a lesser person because I don't go canoeing or something?
Someone has to have a hobby they are passionate about, it doesn't have to be a skill or whatever.
majinspy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:22:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody wants to say the obvious: outdoorsiness is cool. The romantic idea of strong independent man confidently mastering the outdoors is manly and hot. That's why I'm getting into it. Nobody wants to her about my awesome shadowrun game even though it was much more mentally taxing than walking a trail.
stratys3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:39:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
roma258 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cool, but you also learn useful lifeskills. How to survive a cold night outside. How to orient yourself in unfamiliar surroundings. Knowing you can hike 20 miles with a 50 lb backpack, if necessary. How to prepare a quick, nutrient rich meal. I'm not a hardcore survivalist, but shit can go wrong and it's pretty useful if you have some idea of how to respond.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:10:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure the hobby you choose allows you to develop a useful skill (like painting or playing an instrument)
Painting is kind of useful, but playing an instrument really is just as useless and uninteresting as playing video games 90% of the time. The piano is probably the one instrument that you might get an excuse to play, without having a significant chance of it making your date like you less. Playing a guitar kind of works, but only if you're charismatic enough that you didn't actually need the guitar.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the skill itself that leaves an impression (unless you manage to have an excuse to demonstrate it.) It's the fact that you spent the time doing something that is constructive.
Plovesa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point is how is it more constructive than learning to play a video game?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:18:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can make something new that's easily appreciated by most people. You paint something, most people can see it and know that you spent time developing that skill. The closest you can come to that in games is maybe Minecraft art.
Also, games are much easier to learn. It can take thousands of hours to get really good at some creative skills. If you're spending thousands of hours on a game you're either grinding, exploring the game world, or playing with friends. And you really have to be a gamer to appreciate any of those.
Plovesa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd have to appreciate art as well to see its qualities. Granted the the entry level may be easier for something like art. People are just too quick judging games as there are games out there that are not easy to master by any means and require the a big amount of effort and excercise to perfect.
I love video games but playing an instrument is way more useful, creative and constructive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:20 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Debatable. It'll depend a lot on what video games you play. There's a pretty big difference between what you get out of playing a beat 'em up compared to what you get out of playing strategy games.
I'm well Aware of this. I was obsessed with sc2 for the first 4 years it was out. It's immensely technical and the pro level is super impressive but it's not as creative as an instrument and I'm general not as useful or constructive
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:51 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think instruments are inherently creative. It's certainly possible to be creative with an instrument, and they may attract a lot of creative people, but if all you actually do is play by notes composed by someone else, there's no imagination or creativity and barely even any thought involved. Creativity certainly helps, but it's not necessary and you could play an instrument every day for your whole life and not gain anything from it other than technical skill with that instrument.
Playing soccer or League of Legends or whatever at even the most amateur level requires far more creativity than simply playing an instrument does, because at least then you can't predict exactly what's going to happen and have to spend much of your time improvising and adapting to changing situations.
In general they are far more than a sport because even the strictist music teacher will force students to learn improvisation. It's by far the most encouraged part of being a musiciann. In soccer and esports you're assigned to a rigid position and are mainly concerned with fulfilling a certain aspect. You don't have e to be creative to be a goalie, you just have to pay attention.
you could play an instrument every day for your whole life and not gain anything from it other than technical skill with that instrument.
Not true at all. There's multiple studies showing that even rudimentary emulation of musical phrasings and songs will improve a multitude of cognitive abilities. Drums, piano and classocal guitar in particular require separate syncopation of limbs which improves mental abilities. Hand eye coordination alone drastically increases let alone the improvement of your ear at distinguishing notes and sounds. There's a vast amount people learn sub consciously from playing anything at a decent level on instruments.
Playing soccer or League of Legends or whatever at even the most amateur level requires far more creativity than simply playing an instrument
Ehh not really. At anything other than a VERY high level these things are dominated by a repetitive metagame. You do the right builds in StarCraft and league and you can get high ranked with a lot of ease. You don't have to be creative until you get to the pro level, and even then many just exploit a meta game, its hardly creative. The creative people are the ones who change the metagame, which is rare
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:53 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In soccer and esports you're assigned to a rigid position and are mainly concerned with fulfilling a certain aspect.
The opposition isn't going to behave the way you want or expect them to. Even if your task is clearly defined, actually figuring out how to do that task is going to require a lot of improvisation. In sports you have an opponent who is actively trying to sabotage your plan. You may not need much creativity in deciding on an overall strategy, but second to second you're largely improvising.
The opposition isn't going to behave the way you want or expect them to.
in starcraft and league, 99% of the time it doesn't matter. You can get REALLY high ranked in starcraft (the most technical esport that exists) by using one build effectively. at high level you're correct, otherwise it doesn't really matter. Strong macro or micro mechanics can pull you to a win in most situations besides surprise cheese builds.
Also i don't really get this argument's validity over musicianship as playing with other musicians is just as random, even if playing a song you all know. Sometimes it's more random. Improvisation is a MASSIVE part of being a musician, you're always conscious of what your bandmates are doing.
In Sports and esports the VAST majority of the time you can break your opponents plan down to 2 or 3 possible outcome. In starcraft a single scout will tell you what kind of game is going to follow and you can choose a pre-determined build to play from there. Same goes for soccer, formation is largely key - you just have to be consioucs of your position and what the ball does but because everyone is assigned a position you won't be thinking or doing much for half the game.
eg. a defender won't be doing much when your team has the ball and is on the attack, a striker wont be at the home net when the opponents team is trying to score - thats the defenses job. On the other hand, you're ALWAYS actively doing something in music when playing live. if you miss a note the band will respond or at least notice (good members may even improvise and save you - and you should respond in turn). Playing music in a band situation at a decent level is incredibly difficult.
I've played esports to a pretty decent level (and play with aspiring pros who are incredibly high ranked), played team sports for local teams and played in a local band. The band situation required way more thinking in general. You're definitely underselling the improvisational aspects of playing an instrument. Besides, like i said earlier, there's countless studies that show how active the brain is when playing music, even if you're rigidly performing a piece of music. drums and piano especially require the minds seperation of limbs
But mainly, all those hours spent mashing buttons and clicking the mouse can be used to develop other skills... I could have mastered several instruments, gotten in awesome shape and written some killer short stories in all those hours wasted in front of the computer and television.
But if you don't like doing any of those things, you are still going to be no more happier in the end.
Definitely. I'm just throwing out examples that have made me happy... for someone else, it could taking up archery, hunting, or baseball. The world is your oyster :)
Moebiuzz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:56:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a useful skill (like painting or playing an instrument)
So useful...
stratys3 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:38:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the other post articulated it better: You want a hobby that's active instead of passive. You want a hobby that involves doing something other than just consuming.
That's why I've gotten into board games. A lot easier to get new people into. They come I. Thinking boring games like monopoly and come out super excited after playing games like King of Tokyo, codenames, and 7 wonders.
I used to play video games a ton, mostly counter strike and other first person shooters. I was in a gaming clan and played competitively for a while.
I also play a bunch of instrument, sing, dance, oil paint, sculpt, make furniture, throw pottery and a dozen other more socially acceptable hobbies. Learning to navigate Dust II by memory, to control your spray, or to hit a headshot from across the map are just as hard as centering clay on the pottery wheel or accurate placing notes of color on an oil painting.
Those other skills are really only more impressive because we've been taught that they are more impressive. Also, it is partially because there is no team flashing or teabagging or 12 year olds fucking your mother when you are in front of an easel. But mostly the cultural baggage thing.
I'm fucked because my main hobby is gaming and my work is game development. I... could... talk about programming and 3D modelling instead as my hobbies?
Hmm, I never though about one's work and hobby possibly being the same thing lol. Talking about the processes of work (like the ones you listed) is more interesting than hearing someone go on and on about all the stuff they did in Fallout - not everyone has the knowledge of programming and modelling and that sounds cool :)
Not sure about you, but if my hobby and work were pretty much the same thing I would be going crazy haha.
It's a little different, at work I'm stuck doing one task. At home I get to play and immerse myself and sometimes be amazed at what others have done and I appreciate that. There's so much to do, so many times I go "Why didn't I think of this? This is awesome!".
But it's still only one hobby/interest, and that can get old fast. Even if I'm talking about something more different like Virtual Reality or using biometric feedback on games.
Really depends. Playing piano and playing StarCraft at a passable level are pretty much the same (anybody can get to gold in a few days, just like anybody can play basic songs in a few days)
Playing piano at a really high level is more impressive and harder though, not to mention far more creative. Try play some Bach on piano or compose a technical piece of music. Being a matter pianist takes well over 10 years or sometimes far longer. The best SC players in the world became the best in a few years(most before they turn 23) Still incredibly skilled but there's a ceiling there that doesn't exist with piano.
(Also let's be fair, a lot of getting good at StarCraft and dota is memorizibg the popular metagame and exploiting it. That's super easy)
herpbot ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:15:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
video games are an easy vehicle, like alcoholism, to achieve a certain level of satisfaction
This is the worst part of your biased argument.
Grade-A comment man. /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And like alcohol, it can also be used in moderation or with friends, to have some harmless fun.
herpbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I re-read his comment and I think I see that point now. I think he's taking it a little too far though with how detrimental video games are. Plenty of people spend a lot of time gaming, but it doesn't completely hinder them from other hobbies. I don't know, his comment just seems really extreme, and biased from how much it affected him negatively.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The same could be said for a lot of other consumption hobbies, anyways.
herpbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, pretty much. It doesn't necessarily become a major addiction though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It totally does for some people. Just like overeating or porn addiction.
Behaviors that are healthy in moderation can easily become a form of escapism.
herpbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No definitely. I'm more pointing out, like you said, it's for some people. The guy was talking about it as if it applies to everyone, like everyone who games a lot is addicted.
Obviously some people have more addictive personalities than others, though. I'm sure his message applies to some people.
Nacksche ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a gamor, I'm a little butthurt that you single out video games when it could be a discussion about active/creative hobbies vs. passive ones. I can imagine a book or movie geek being just as boring. Or geek anything really, a fitness nut who can't talk about anything else than working out is probably not a very interesting person (once you get over his hot, hot body and strong arms).
What's attractive is confidence, broad interests and opinions, having ideas and an inner drive to do things. Some people are, some are not, I don't think it makes that much of a difference what hobby you have.
I could have mastered several instruments, gotten in awesome shape and written some killer short stories in all those hours wasted in front of the computer and television.
Sure. But in reality you would be pretty good at a few instruments, be in decent shape, and your short stories would probably mostly suck. You seem to have that idea that the pure act of taking a pencil in your hand is better or more worthwhile than playing a good game. Well I disagree, making art for yourself is mostly entertainment and/or masturbation. Who benefits from an attic full of your mediocre, unoriginal, or maybe even good paintings? When you bring joy to people or get good enough to achieve some sense of accomplishment, that's where art probably becomes a better hobby than games.
video games require little effort to master compared to learning how to play the piano
It takes thousands of hours to be top tier at a single competitive game. Depends on your definition of "master" I guess.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pet snakes and tarantulas?
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And try to be good at it so that someone may be impressed.
Don't do what I generally do and have many half arsed ones. People are interested in the fact you are good at something more than being shit at lots of things :)
chumothy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:41:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Talents too many, not enough of any.
It's my problem, too. I have too many hobbies. Tried to get into crochet late last year. Didn't finish one damn washcloth. I still managed to find someone, though. He has even more hobbies than I do.
This. Have passion about your interests. I like guns and cars, among other things. My girlfriend tells me I positively light up when I talk about them and that she finds it attractive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have an outdoor or team sport or somewhat athletic activity you practice regularly. Running, bicycling, hiking, climbing, etc. Or something like basketball.
Have an intellectual interest in one thing to the point that you are considered knowledgeable about the subject, and be able to explain interesting facets of this subject. Make sure it's not something the typical 12-year-old is fascinated with -- you don't want to be a Star Wars fanatic, for example.
Wow so much this. As a guy with a lot of hobbies,a girl with hobbies is at least +2 points on the scale. I don't even care if it's knitting, or rock collecting, leaf pressing - it doesn't have to be cool. Just be passionate about SOMETHING. (although it's WAY hotter if it's something like snowboarding, dirt bikes, working on cars, shooting etc...)
To expand on this, be interesting. Be able to create small talk and long talk when it's appropriate. Small talk is pretty straight forward. Show interest in the other person, how they're doing, what they're up to. Talk about some recent local or world news, show them you are informed and care about the world you live in. Long talk is a bit harder, this is where the interests and hobbies come in. Have certain things you can talk about at length. Hobbies and interests are easy cause you will know alot about those things and you can expand the other parties knowledge on it, and hopefully find some crossover in your interests. It's much more deeper than I have explained but if you can successfully perform small and long talk(and when it's appropriate to perform both) people will perceive you to be more interesting, more passionate, and informs them of your character traits.
tom808 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Linux and Warhammer 40k don't seem too effective.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is way more true than I had first thought. If you start dating someone based on physical appeal alone, they immediately start to seem very unattractive if they are a bum.
Aka, if all you do is watch Netflix, I really hate dating you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one is huge. Even if I have little to no interest in their interest or hobby, just seeing someone have a passion for something can be super attractive.
Videogames, tv shows and movies don't count apparently. Also avoid talking about politics, random facts about science or comic books. And for the love of god don't mention you play Warhammer.
Be sure to have cool hobbies like soccer or woodworking or car maintenance.
I believe a lot of people place considerable emphasis on having hobbies whereas interests are disregarded somewhat. Many people feel that they don't necessarily "do much" in their spare time. However I think there is a lot to be said for people who have many interests. For example, in history or particular periods of history, in philosophy or philosophical ideas, in politics or current affairs, learning about different languages and cultures. Even being interested in things like this and able to talk about them can make someone more attractive.
josmu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine are pretty boring to most people I meet though to be fair.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my own experience, this is a winner right here! You inadvertently look cool, even interesting, simply doing the things you love to do without even trying! I've also heard of people finding it attractive when people have something that they're passionate about and talk about with that fiery passion.
This is a real thing. I know a woman who has no hobbies. No interest outside of work and every time I mention she may want to get something to busy herself with outside of work, she says she doesn't have time. But conversations about work only go so far, especially outside of work, so she goes to work more.
MJWood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does redditing not count, then?
Peil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know they say girls love guys who play guitar. It's kinda true. I've known girls who say playing guitar makes you 10 times sexier, but I'd say that a minority. What I do know is when you say you're learning guitar people are impressed, especially if you started in your teens or as an adult, and when you tell them you're teaching yourself they find you far more cool.
Coppatop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets.
poom3619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paradox's Grand Strategy game?
ianme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I phrase it as "Learn a trade".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I should tell everybody about my Dragon dildo collection?
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like you just did.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ones that actually give you value. Yeah video games are cool but being good at them will not make yourself more attractive.
Pick up an instrument, take acting classes, something that gives you value.
This is so fucking hard. Every time I try to motivate myself to have a hobby I start thinking about how everything in life is pointless and meaningless and I might as well just fall asleep on the couch eating nachos because nothing matters in the end anyway. Does this happen to anyone else?
My main interests are politics and sports, and my hobbies revolve around those things. Not exactly the greatest topics to discuss with the ladies. Especially if they know I'm an obviously evil republican. Though when you find women into those things it's a home run.
Orion_7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This for women so much, when I was single I'd ask them "What do you do for fun?" If I got the usual answer or "Idk like drink with friends." or "Idk like Netflix." My brain wuold shut off and I would count the minutes til I could fake having to go home....
It's kinda weird that my favorite hobby is making furniture from scratch (not scratch really; I buy wood), but now since I moved to a city I had to give it up.
Cut soda out of your diet. You'll miss it for a month and then won't give a shit. I've had maybe 3-4 sodas over the past 2 years, they taste disgusting to me now. Only way I'll touch coke or sprite is if there's rum or vodka in it, and then it better be the sugar free kind.
[deleted] ยท 2311 points ยท Posted at 20:06:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
sugar free kind
Us dirty soda drinkers refer to that as diet, and it tastes like cancer.
Edit: I didn't know there were so many diet soda drinking plebs on Reddit.
That's pretty much how I started on diet sodas as well. I wanted to lose weight so I quit drinking soda entirely for three months before trying diet soda and now I drink that often instead.
Hear hear. I'm a big fan of Dr. Pepper 10. The regular is too sweet and sugary, and the diet tastes a little funky. I assume Canada Dry 10 has a similar balance.
[deleted] ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 21:25:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer Diet Coke
sboshoff ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 22:38:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, regular Coke makes my teeth feel weird. Too much sugar or something?
eelsify ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 00:04:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One can of coke has over 9 teaspoons of sugar.
9!
Can you imagine putting 9 spoons of sugar in your coffee? It would taste ridiculous.
FishWash ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 01:18:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lala447 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:37:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
worked at a coffee shop and had that ordered... twice! It was disgusting. Not to mention the one guy complained that we hadn't stirred in the sugar enough! Throwback to grade seven science: a liquid can only dissolve so much before it reaches its supersaturation!
You can dissolve almost a kilogram of glucose in a liter of water at room temperature. Or, in American figures, roughly 1 ounce of sugar per fluid ounce of water. 1 ounce of sugar equals about 28g of sugar. 9 teaspoons is about 27g of sugar. Therefore, a can of coke only really has an ounce of sugar, or 1/8 a cup of sugar.
Admittedly, the carbonated water probably lowers the total amount of sugar the beverage can dissolve, and the lower temperature of soda (typically) will certainly lower the supersaturation point as well. But 27g of sugar in a 12 oz can is pretty easily dissolved.
tl;dr: You have to dump a ridiculous amount of sugar into hot coffee to leave any sugar undissolved.
I think it's the stickiness. Try spilling a little of each and watching them evaporate. You get a patch of disgusting sticky residue from the non-diet, because it's nearly saturated with sugar.
HH-Rob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me that was the indicative moment that I preferred diet coke, or even coke zero.
Cancer or no cancer, I'd rather much drink that from a taste (and after-taste perspective) in addition that I won't be filling my body with useless calories.
This is why I've stopped drinking coke actually. I still drink soda but mostly when I go out to eat as I've been trying to cut back. It never used to happen years ago but Coke makes my teeth feel like they've got a film of gunk over them and it makes them feel softer.
I used to drink coke and cherry coke every day at home, 2-3 cans a day, on top of not exercising any more because my high school doesn't have a PE class, just something called HOPE in 9th grade and then you're done after that.
I haven't got any real exercise since then. I've gained a lot of weight (not necessarily a bad thing, I used to weigh maybe 90 lbs in 9th grade and I weigh ~150 now as a senior, most of that is just fat weight, I used to play sports recreationally before I moved to Florida and everything down here is competitive which I'm not interested in) but I've been wanting to start going to the gym but I don't have my own membership so I usually just go with people like my brother which isn't very often. He just recently moved in with me so hopefully we'll get to go more often now.
I also know my posture is shit because my shoulders are always hunched over from the way I lean back in my nice office chair at my computer all the time. Recently, one of my friends who's really good at giving massages felt the space between my shoulders and neck towards my back, whatever that is called, and pointed out how that space basically feels like a slab of concrete because it's rock hard and I just then realized it too. I'm not sure if just going to the gym and exercising will fix that though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will absolutely fix that! Bro you need to get your back, legs, and shoulders strengthened asap. I've tried to fix my posture for years before I actually went to the gym and started doing squats and deadlifts. After a week my posture was as good as it can possibly be.
My brother used to be a gym rat for like four years before he hurt his back doing squats I think it was. He took a personal trainer class and could get his cert so all I need to do is go with him and he can help me. Now that he lives with me and my dad he can also cook healthy for me like he did for himself as well. It's all just a matter of finding time.
cvak ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 22:18:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you prefer diet coke to regular coke. The real question is, do you prefer diet coke to coke zero?
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:27:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only drink sugar free cokes, and primarily I drink diet coke, because coke zero wasn't around when I started. So, I prefer diet coke. I still drink zero from time to time though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never tried Coke Zero, sorry. I mostly drink water and cider, to be honest.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer diet coke, and I can't even look at coke zero without wanting to vomit. It's like they hired the world's worst chemist to mimic the taste of sugar with chemicals normally used for making meth.
I'm sure you've already gotten a dozen replies on the subject, but try Coke Zero. I follow a keto diet and it's one of my guilty pleasures when combined with a little rum
swiftb3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm not a diet coke fan, but coke zero is surprisingly good.
Do they not use aspertame or whatever in Coke Zero? I'd have 0 issues with diet soda, but the aspertame/substitutes they use just leave a long-lasting nasty taste in mouth.
To my understanding, they're both the same in both ingredients and nutritional value. However, Diet Coke was created as a standalone product with a completely different formula/taste than Coke. Coke Zero is essentially Original Coke with aspartame instead of sugar/high fructose corn syrup/etc. I think stevia is replacing aspartame in the recipes of both drinks though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Replacing in the future? Because my bottle definitely says "With/Avec Aspartame" on it still.
As a poor student and tea addict I've nearly stopped drinking soda, I use it only to vanish the taste of vodka on parties, but still I'm not able to drink the diet sodas...
I've always liked diet soda better. :( Regular is too sugary to me. I hate it when people assume I think getting a bunch of unhealthy food and a Diet Coke is "healthier". No. I like Diet Coke, damnit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet soda with alcohol gets your more drunk faster.
I'm not a soda drinker because diet soda tastes like cancer and gives me a headache. My one guilty pleasure is Mountain Dew, but I recognize that it's just not worth it so I usually don't.
I stopped drinking soda a month ago and I do miss it. It's the nectar from the gods. I crave it every day and it honestly hasn't gotten any easier for me.
I can't stand diet sodas, I'll occasionally have a taste of regular soda but it usually gives me the hiccups. So drinking lots of water makes my life a lot easier.
There's a reason it tastes like cancer. Aspartame is usually the artificial sweetener used in diet sodas, and it's a carcinogenic. I don't know how much it affects you when it's drunk, but you will get cancer if you somehow spill undiluted aspartame on your skin.
I don't drink soda often but diet soda is disgusting, and, according to a semi recent study, actually makes you more likely to gain weight (sweet without calories confuses your body and makes it crave more calories)
Can't agree more. The first month you'll crave soda like you never have before but I found that sparkling water helped a lot. If you don't like the taste of soda water I recommend jamming four or five lemon wedges in your glass. Started doing that when I got sick one year, and became absolutely hooked. Eventually I weaned myself off lemons and now I knock back soda water plain even though I used to hate it. Makes you burp like a champ too.
Nowadays soda isn't necessarily disgusting to me, it's just so so so sweet that I can't drink more than a couple sips. I found that it curbed my cravings for other sweet things too, except sour gummy worms. You can't take that away from me
I remember reading somewhere that the CO2 in soda water made it pretty acidic and bad for your teeth. I could be wrong though, either way, still healthier than 42 teaspoons of sugar
I'm a soda addict and sometimes I go through periods of not drinking and the only thing I've found that's really good and doesn't make me miss it is the selzer at Trader Joes. It's surprisingly delicious.
I'll second lemon in water. I add the tiniest pinch of salt. I don't get it often as lemons don't last in my house.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In winter, hot water with lemon and honey is amazing. Slice up the lemon, squeeze the juice from the ends into the water, put the neat slices in there, stir in a little honey to take the edge off. Best drink.
Yeah, I switched to club sodas with a few dashes of lime juice and/or bitters as an evening relaxer. I just enjoy the carbonation too much, I guess, to switch to water outright, all the time.
I'll have a full-calorie soda as an occasional treat, most often at the movies as an accompaniment to popcorn. As a teen, I was probably drinking two cans of that crap a day. Really glad I was able to wean myself off that habit.
Actually, if saving money is the goal get a Primo brand carbonator at a yard sale or thrift store. Instead of SodaStream's proprietary valve design where you pay $15 for a CO2 refill, it uses the standard 20 oz bottles that go in paintball guns, and you can get those refilled at beer distributors or sporting goods stores for like $3.
I can't stand sodastream because i feel like the bubbles are too large. Smart and Final has 2L club soda for $1.19, and sometimes on sale for $.99. That's an even better deal than the 4 12-packs of cans for $9 that Ralph's used to offer.
Yea instead of soda, I drink club soda and then add a flavouring to it like Mio or something. Probably terrible for me too, but at least it's better than soda.
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:30:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut soda out of your diet.
And smoothies and all that shit. If you're going to drink something, drink water. You can obviously make exceptions for coffee and alcohol and whatever.
[deleted] ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 20:14:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about only alcohol
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:31:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it obvious? You can't have a hangover if you are always drunk. Try replacing the milk in your weetabix with fruit cider to start, and slowly begin to introduce vodka over time, works like a charm!
Coffee isnt bad, but it does develop a dependency and is proven to make you wake up less awake the more you drink coffee, but coffee is healthy in moderation.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coffee is (kind of) addictive, but otherwise good for you. Unless you over-consume it like crazy (a dozen cups per day), there are no health problems associated with it, but it does seem to protect you against things like Alzheimers in the long run. It can stain your teeth, though.
The withdrawal effects only last a day or two, so it's easy to quit if you want to. But it can be a bit inconvenient while you're "on" coffee. The severity of the symptoms also varies wildly; I can personally forget to drink coffee for a day and feel nothing.
It's pretty much exactly as bad for you as diet soda.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:00:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the difference between "cut out 90% of the bad stuff and manage to actually stick to that for the rest of your life" and "cut out everything but get tired of it and quit after a few years", which are realistically the two competing options for most people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:01:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly. Cutting soda is a measure that has big impact on ones diet since soda is something most soda-drinking-people drink all day everyday. Drinking alcohol moderately at weekends, on the other hand, can't be considered unhealthy, and even if you want to consider social drinking unhealthy to cut alcohol ingestion in such frequency has little to zero impact on ones diet.
Most coffee people drink is fucking terrible for you. I've gotten myself into a nasty espresso habbit over the past semester of college (when I study etc) and I think it shows from all the sugar I'm consuming. My family said I looked skinnier (probably in my face) but at the same time I feel like I'm starting to grow a gut.
yagatov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink it Black. Once you go black you never go back. That happened to me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we include tea? All I drink is pop, water, and juice, with the occasional tea, so I'd like to keep a hot beverage.
Kuritos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:27:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I cut soda out, I refuse anything sweet because it didn't taste good anymore.
Huh. I just got a sweet tooth when I did it. Not enough to counteract the benefits of not drinking soda, but I definitely didn't stop liking sweets.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is wrong with smoothies? Or are you talking about smoothies with a lot of sugar added? Fruit juices are also good as long as they don't have sugar added.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fruit juices usually contain a ton of sugar by themselves, so you don't have to add any sugar to get fat from drinking them. They contain a lot of vitamins and stuff too, but that doesn't in any way cancel out the sugar. Nor does the fact that it's "natural", because the "added" sugar is also extracted from plants.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fruit juices are also good as long as they don't have sugar added.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fruits contain sugar. Lots and lots of it. That's why they're tasty enough that people want to make smoothies out of them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware. I think encouraging people to not eat fruit, smoothies, or fruit juices for health reasons is ridiculous unless the person's goal is to lose weight, especially given that you said exceptions for alcohol are okay. You'd need to eat a lot of fruit for it to be an issue unless you have diabetes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you are missing something. No one has encouraged anybody to not eat fruit. People should eat fruit daily (not more than 2 ones, though, 'cause, you know, it's full of sugar). Fruit Juices is something else, because in one cup of juice (300ml to 400ml) you'll have usually more than 3 juiced fruits - and sometimes you have two cups at lunch and one more at dinner - , plus the juicing itself facilitating sugar absorption.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:54:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not missing anything. Telling people to not eat smoothies just because they have fruit in them is telling people to not eat fruit.
I didn't tell people to drink 5 cups of fruit juice a day just like /u/splergel didn't tell people to drink 6 beers in a day.
sje46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water or milk. Milk is my absolute favorite beverage. Will have tea on occasion.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Milk is about 5% sugar by weight, plus the fat. It's not as bad as soda, but from a weight loss point of view it's still bad.
Anrikay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoothies aren't bad. Couple times a week, one of my meals is a smoothie with kale, frozen berries (mostly raspberries), almond milk, peanut butter, and chocolate protein powder. Given that I only eat once or twice per day, it doesn't seem that bad. It's a good way to consume a lot of food in a short period of time and keeps me going for hours without getting hungry.
Smoothies with frozen yogurt and shit though, that's awful for you.
Rmano90 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:26:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah so true, I'll have like one Coke on the weekend as a guilty pleasure and the rest of the week just water. Makes a huge difference
I used to drink soda daily and cut it entirely. Wow it feels good! I used to have a hard time sleeping at night and needed something like melatonin to help me, but when I cut soda I no longer needed it. Artificial sugar is terrible for your body, and the less of it the better. Seriously, I can't recommend dropping soda enough.
My immediate thought as well! Like, that ain't possible.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That absolutely did not work for me.
I cut it for a few months, which obviously sucked, and I never once felt better. Stomach aches were a constant annoyance. I woke up the exact same and never regained any energy. Not to mention how absolutely boring water can be to the taste buds. In fact, after a few months, I broke my rule once, had a Coke Zero. The carbonation finally settled my stomach that night, and I had my energy back.
And before you start suggesting the carbonated water, it all tasted like piss and no amount of flavoring stopped it. It was either keep a constant stomach cramp and feel tired while never exciting my taste buds, or start moderating how much soda I drank.
The latter is infinitely better.
Exaskryz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I would recommend Arizona Diet Green Tea. It has caffiene, it tastes awesome, and green tea is good for your skin. I also drink those white Monsters that have zero sugar/calories but that might not be for everyone.
Are we talking about like the flavours squirt bottle that you add to water or flavoured water to buy that has been pre-mixed? I've noticed that the pre-mixed flavoured water often has a ton of sugar in in.
Personally I only drink soda when I mix it with alcohol but since Rum and Coke is my drink of choice I'm wondering if switching to diet coke would make any difference.
Yep. I pretty much only drink water now, except for the occasional root beer. Now that it's occasional I can spend more on a good brand instead of shitty soda
Was about to say. Only time I buy and drink (I occasionally have a ginger ale or coke) soda is for alcohol. Not saying that's a healthy mix but it is nice never craving soda and wasting the money on it at restaurants and for home use.
I've been off soda for a year or more, except from the occasional drink to remind me how ridiculous it is to put something that sugary and artificial in my body on a regular basis (have to offset the other unhealthy things I put in my body somehow). There, that last parenthetical hopefully reduced the smugness.
Kappadar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it bad that I get nauseous when I drink two soda's? So like two Cokes cans in the span of an hour
agreed. i haven't had any pop in 5 years until recently. last week my SO said she felt nauseous so she had some dr. pepper. a few days later i felt nauseous so i was like meh, i'll try it. i took one sip and almost gagged. and the carbonation burned. not sure how i ever enjoyed pop so much before.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to drink about 2 - 3 cans of Fanta and Coke a day, now it's a friday treat, ONLY FIRDAY, unless I go drinking then it's Coke and Disaronno.
So what do you drink when you wanna experience something more interesting than water? Juice? Serious question. I drink tons, and unfortunately a lot of it is soda. But because I drink a lot, just drinking water gets ... quite boring.
Cut soda out of your diet. You'll miss it for a month and then won't give a shit. I've had maybe 3-4 sodas over the past 2 years, they taste disgusting to me now. Only way I'll touch coke or sprite is if there's rum or vodka in it, and then it better be the sugar free kind.
Can confirm, did exactly this. Now I drink nothing but (unsweetened) green tea and water. Can't stand soda anymore, especially the way it coats the inside of your mouth...don't know how I ever tolerated it.
This guy is right. Completely cut it out because I really couldn't control my intake. Sucked for a month and half but now I don't feel the need to drink soda anymore. Feel loads better and look slimmer
I did good for a long time, then one day I decided I'd have a coke because I needed some caffeine, but a whole coffee gives me panic attacks, while a can of coke is just right. I thought it was gross, but drank it anyways. Very quickly I was back in the habit of having one almost every day. Shit is so addictive. I need to revert back to carbonated water. I guess I can do that as a belated New Years revolution.
Soda is as bad as cigarettes and I wish more people would realize this. Drinking soda regularly will take years off your life, it'll create long-lasting and potentially fatal health issues, and it'll make your life significantly more difficult in every way. Just like cigarettes.
Stop drinking soda. Just stop. It does nothing good for you. It does not benefit you in any way. It only hurts you.
Water is literally the opposite of soda. It only helps you. It will increase your lifespan, give you more energy, and make you a happier person overall. Stop drinking soda. Drink water instead. It's all you need.
Sugar free soda tastes better anyway. I don't understand how anyone can drink regular soda. Not only is the aftertaste pure ass, I always feel sluggish afterwards.
On the flip side, last February I went from 2+ sodas a day to very occasional. Went completely without for 3-4 months, and now I allow myself one or two every couple weeks. Still absolutely delicious to me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm happy as hell I never got on board with the sugary drink habit.
Diet soda has been shown to get you drunk more effectively than regular.
delli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had soda every day when i was in middle school and the first couple years of high school. Then I just decided to stop drinking it (cold turkey if you will) during my Junior year of high school. Now 7 years later I've only had about 10 sodas. Sometimes a crave a ice cold coke on a hot day, but other than that I never have the urge to drink soda #water4ever
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only soft drink I've drank in the last 5 months was Fanta Orange for captain morgans and Shloer at christmas time.
Honest to god, this guys right, even if you love soft drinks, drinking water for like a month and you will never even feel the urge to get a soft drink again.
BZLuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We were poor as kids and couldn't afford soda. I never developed a hankering for it. Maybe once or twice a year, I will have a Dr. Pepper with greasy real Mexican food, and that's only if they have it cold, and in a can. And I will still only drink half of it.
cjog210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had maybe two last year, and they still taste good, but they don't taste as good as I remember.
Im really happy because i cut out soda also (great choice) but once in a while a mexican coke or jarita with mexican food tastes great!
ffejbos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i keep thinking that not drinking soda is healthy for me, but then i go and look at all the beer/liquor i drink instead of soda...all in all not much has changed
There's no need to go to that much of an extreme. Don't cut it out entirely if you don't want, just cut back. I only drink pop when I go out to eat which is very rarely. So I end up having a glass or two a handful of times per month.
Everyone says this, and i did it successfully for about three or four months. I always, ALWAYS wanted soda. Especially when i ate. After a breakup with the guy who convinced me to do it, i went right back to soda and didn't feel any different.
Rationally, intellectually, i know that soda is awful for you, and if i cut out out, i would be much better off. But honestly, it never made a difference to me when i tried it. That makes it so much harder to convince myself to try again. I aim for limiting it to one a day now.
Same. Only 23 went strictly water and alcohol last year. Had 3 colas since and I absolutely hated them. Like Bill Burr has said "the same way you get addicted to eating like shit, is the same way you can get addicted to eating well, just keep doing it."
herbuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People always say this, but going long periods of time without soda just makes it way more delicious when I finally have some.
I spent the better part of my childhood and into my 20's consuming mass amounts of soda, specifically Pepsi and Coke. I'm talking up to 2 2liter bottles a day. Finally wised up, got into fitness and now over 10 years later the very thought of drinking a soda repulses me. I'm also 37 and in better shape then I was at 18.
My father is foreign and never bought soda for whatever reason, and that shit is absurdly sweet. I can't believe people just pour refined sugar down the gullet.
Wanted to let you know the artificial sweeteners they use in zero-calorie drinks may actually be worse for your health
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Used to be a huge sodaholic. Cut it out of my diet about 4 months ago and have never felt better. In addition to improving other aspects of my diet, cutting soda has helped me look in great shape.
Can verify. I cut out soda about 6 months ago. I used to drink an obscene about of diet soda in a day. I'd probably estimate about 10 cans worth in a day or more. Towards the end I had all but replace water with soda and I felt devoid of anything that resembled health. Cutting out soda was hard. It took a few tries and honestly cutting out the caffeine gave me pretty harsh withdrawals so I had to ween myself off. Now it's been 6 months since I've had any soda or caffeine and I feel much better. The truth is since I was drinking diet I didn't loose a bunch of weight or suddenly start running marathons. I still struggle with the motivation to work out or eat better but step by step I am moving towards better health. It took me having a kid and want to be a good role model to make the plunge but there's a reason out there for everyone to make a change.
So true. Used to drink soda all the time and I found water to taste disgusting. Now I only drink water (and occasionally juice) and love the taste of water.
Just take the plunge, drink water and you will be over it in no time at all.
I don't drink soda anymore but coca cola from McDonald's is the best drink ever I could down a large in one drink
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cut soda out almost 3 years ago. Had one can of Coke about a year ago and I thought it was absolutely putrid. Couldn't get down more than three sips before pouring it down the drain.
I used to drink at least a cup of soft drink a day ever since I was young but for some reason I just completely called it quits and now I have no desire to drink anything remotely sugary. I just have no desire for sugar anymore. Water is the best!
Not only do they taste disgusting, whenever I have soda it burns my throat. Also, if I have more than one soda, it makes me feel really full and just shitty overall.
Stick to just water, and balance it with alcohol, of course.
Well that would make sense, since water has no calories and is super healthy, while "sugar" drinks are packed full of calories and are super unhealthy.
Rmano90 ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 18:58:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I know it sounds pretty obvious but it's one of those little things that makes a big difference
I ran into one of the old security guards from my high school a few weeks ago. Since I graduated 3 years ago the dude lost 45 pounds, apparently with the only dietary change being switching from mountain dew to water. I guess he had been drinking like 5 bottles/ cans a day, and cutting that was enough to do it
danzey12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:28:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've lost 35 lbs in 6 months from literally nothing but drinking water all the damn time, and tea.
It was the game changer for me. Even a shitty greasy hamburger will make you full at some point. A Coke won't and is therefore that much more dangerous if not controlled.
Also sugar drinks, like soda pop, are loaded with sodium that just makes you bloated, dries out your skin, and increases hyper-tension. Also, they have a ton of weird acids and other crap you don't want making you feel yucky.
some people cannot stop drinking that shit though. i stopped drinking pop about 6 years ago and feel great. i love coke, but only have it like once in a blue moon. It makes it taste that much better.
It makes sense yet people still need to be told to do it unfortunately... I mean all you need to do is know what is a healthy intake of the different groups (fat, sugar, carbs, protein, fiber, etc.) to understand that soda is horrendously bad for you
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:49:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
all you need to do...
Not that simple with the bullshit USDA food pyramid.
Actually it is really simple with the whole internet at your finger tips. We've known the food pyramid is bullshit for like a full decade at least, and there are toooons of studies ongoing and completed about which diets are better for what. It is this simple: eat more protein and fat than carbs, try to cut out as much processed sugar as possible. Once you are at your desire weight, you can add in more carbs, but low carb high fat diets have been shown to reduce body fat %. You want more simple? Don't eat more calories than you use. Hungry? Drink a tall glass of water. You're still hungry? Eat smaller portions and only eat until you are full. When I was 16 I lost 45 lbs in about 2 months just by changing my diet and continuing to play my sport as normal. Nobody was coaching me and i wasn't writing down calories or anything
Why are people so ready to look for excuses? If you live in the US, you are pretty much guaranteed to have the internet, and therefore a wealth of information is readily available to you 24/7 at your own convenience.
lilleulv ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:42:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In a shorter perspective, they also make you temporarily bloated as they're carbonated.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But...but I took the stairs this morning!
wormee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was once told it like this: You wouldn't be very clean if you took a bath in Pepsi!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean is subjective. If all lifeforms were based on Pepsi instead of water, then a Pepsi bath would be perfectly bubbly
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:36:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't think there are any nutritional benefits to sugary drinks though, are there? The kind of sugar your body needs is natural sugars combined with fibers, I thought?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I wasn't disputing the science behind it. I actually don't eat sugar unless it's from fruits and I feel fine. I'm not sure what you're insinuating. I just don't feel like energy from things like artificial sugary drinks are worth the crash and headaches they come with, in my experience. Especially when you could be getting the same energy and reaping more benefits nutritionally from better options.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It takes at least a few hours to convert carbs to glucose. Sugar requires less than a fraction of that time.
I have determined you don't really know what the fuck you're talking about based on the fact that you refer to carbs and sugar as two different things and seem to not realize that sucrose is a mixture of glucose and fructose.
Empty calories don't help you and sugar itself is an empty calorie so whether you are eating fruit or drinking a soda, the difference comes from what else is in whatever you are eating. You shouldn't have too many empty calories because they make you gain weight and hold very little nutritional value. Sugar is necessary, but only in very small amounts.
I'm willing to bet you only heard/read this somewhere. No professional in this field say empty calories. A calorie is a unit of measurement just like grams, joules, watts, etc...
That whole empty calorie was marketing by the food industry to sell marked up foods. Now they run the organic slogan. You're just a sucker for marketing like most people.
I was using it in reply to someone else's comment, who used that term. Regardless of where it comes from though, it's just an easy way to describe something that is loaded with calories and very little nutritional value. That doesn't make me a fool for marketing dude.
Yes, they really are. They're full of garbage along with the sugar. They provide nothing beneficial. Yes, humans need sugar, but not from pop. You get more than enough from fruit, carbs, etc. Sources that are providing you with nutrients and fibre along with the sugar.
From another perspective, soft drink producers put too much sugar in their drinks.
There is literally nothing beneficial for you in soft drinks (okay, I mean, you could count the water, but then why not just drink water). Only stuff that is detrimental to you. It really doesn't matter how much sugar they put in, it's unhealthy either way.
Also, I am not against pop. I love Pepsi, and drink it regularly. However, I realize it's unhealthy and don't try to justify it in any way.
This is not remotely correct. Sugar provides nothing more than calories, which you can get from any food. The ideal amount of sugar in a person's diet is zero.
Eh, most foods you eat contain vitamins and minerals and an energy source: either carbohydrates, proteins or fats. sugars are short chain carbohydrates and the stuff you put in your coffee is called fructose which is very chemically similar to the sugar your body turns in to ATP to power your cells, more specifically glucose. When you eat a longer chain carbohydrate or fat or protein your body breaks down those chemicals into glucose and eventually ATP but when you eat fructose your body doesn't have to change it very much before it can turn it into usable energy. Because sugar has so much quickly usable energy for little investment from your body it is quickly used but if you consume lots of fructose in concert with other foods your body won't need the energy from the foods later and will turn the unused calories into fat. So lots of sugar is bad for you because you get the energy without the vitamins and minerals but if you wan't a little energy fast and eat well otherwise sugar is your best friend.
No, I agree with what you're saying, but this isn't related to the claim of the previous poster. The poster was saying that one needs to eat table sugar/corn syrup as found in soft drinks in addition to the glucose they obtain from carbohydrates found in other foods. If you fix the total amount of calories in your diet, it's nearly always better to get those calories from other carbohydrates in food than from table sugar/corn syrup. If you are, say, a long distance runner, eating pure glucose is not so bad, but it's never necessary when a bagel would suffice; both carbs.
That's definitely understandable and you certianly don't need to consume sugar unless your diabetic and only on occasion. I only disagree with the generalization that the perfect amount of sugar in a diet is zero. What you said about the long distance runner I think can apply to a less specific and athletic group. I'm kinda poor and a little too skinny so the extra sugar is great for me because I make an effort to eat healthy foods at other times and exercise regularly.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If your body needs sugar, how is it that people are able to live on low or zero carb (ketogenic) diets? If you claim to require sugar to get faster energy, what about other refined carbohydrates such as wheat flour? Why would sugar be necessary when I could eat a piece of bread and get the same caloric effect?
Everything that converts to energy has to be converted to sugar first.
This is simply not true. Apparently, I listened a little more carefully in college than you did.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:15:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The starch in bread made from refined flour is converted to glucose extremely quickly, starting in your mouth. The only difference between eating 100 calories of bread or 100 calories of sugar, is the bread possibly has fiber and other nutrients which the sugar lacks. You get more than enough glucose to live from foods, you do not need to eat table sugar or anything sugary to survive.
The reason doctors tell patients to not abandon sugar is because people would simply ignore this advice. The fact that obesity is a huge worldwide problem should tell you that something needs to change.
olbeefy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI, you're one of the people on here spreading misinformation. Your post above this starts with soda being "not super unhealthy."
Yes, you need sugar in your diet. However, you NEVER need to get it through a soda. One can of soda alone is already too much sugar.
How are you trying to explain anything to people when you don't even get that much?
makes you feel a lot lighter/slimmer than if you have a couple sugar drinks
Yes, consuming 0 calories does make one feel slimmer than drinking 2 (a couple) sodas that have 400 calories.
lol
I lost 80 lb in 14 months and this type of shit makes my day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drinking water also makes you alot lighter/slimmer than eating cheeseburgers.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:31:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The real life hack is when you realize that if you eat a cheeseburger and drink water with it, you'll be both slimmer and happier than with any other option. It's not the cheeseburger that makes you fat.
I wish there was this big change for me when I quit habitually drinking soda. Everyone always says how much better they felt after cutting it (or at least drinking less) but I am throughly... unaffected. Less guilt for drinking soda, I guess, but I wish I really felt the effects of less sugar from it.
People don't realize that 2 sugary drinks a day can amount to 500 calories easily
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's worth giving the sugar free versions a try. They taste just as good once you adjust to the slightly different sweetness have only a few calories per serving so will have no impact on weight gain. The fizziness might still cause short term bloating though.
tPRoC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The key is finding the good diet versions. Diet Coke tastes like ass for example, but Diet Dr.Pepper and Diet Gingerale taste basically identical to the real thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:37 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coke Zero is actually really good, I could never go back to diet.
I am very guilty of this. They say if u are thirsty, it's too late. And I am thirsty all the time..
Edit: I already had blood test, not diabetic.
[deleted] ยท 591 points ยท Posted at 19:02:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to enjoy waiting til I was super thirsty and then CHUGGING a butt ton of water.. the sweet relief felt so good, I thought I was doing something right.
But other people do this more regularly. If your whole family does it as well, I've always wondered if this kind of thing is indicative of genes of people who were more nomadic, such as le desert, and didn't have access to water all the time? While others with more stable backgrounds? I don't know how genetics works.
JWBails ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:33:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to start being healthy: if it's good/you like it, stop.
Read this first as 'butt chugging' a ton of water was a bit confused how an enema was relieving your thirst. But yes, I used to chug a glass to two for the day.
sometimes i forget to eat for the whole day and get super fucking hungry before dinner and i feel that rainstick cracking noise in the back of my head, and i feel like my digestive organs are shrinking, and i'm so hungry i just lay down and can't move for hours and just accept my starvation until morning.
It's something that is mentioned for heat stroke. If you are doing activity outside when it is hot and sunny and you're working, then you should drink constantly and not wait until you are thirsty.
If you're just sitting at your desk, then you're fine drinking when you're thirsty.
The way I heard it was that if you're thirsty, your body is already lacking in water, the same way that if you're hungry, your body is already lacking in food/energy. Not that you're dehydrated or starving, just that preemptively drinking/eating is a good thing
All the info posters I see say that. Course I don't think its that drastic like you're going to die thirsty, but it means you are already dehydrated.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being dehydrated is a serious condition, and it is not the same as being thirsty. Thirst is just a signal that your body's normal amount of hydration has dropped. It could be as low as a 1% drop. You'd have to ignore it for a while or lose a lot of fluids to sweat (or other means) before actual dehydration would occur.
It's too late in the sense that you can't avoid becoming dehydrated because you already are.
Baial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If only humans had some sort of structure, like the glomerulus.
Quenz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:58:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been drinking at least a gallon a day for several years now. I think as a result, it makes me chronically thirsty. I never like being too far away from water for more than an hour.
eksyneet ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:36:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you should probably get your blood sugar checked, just to be safe.
Quenz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:44:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know I'm not diabetic. I just had a military entrance physical and they went through all the things. So far, they haven't said anything.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:06:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone through this three times. The waking up at night to drink water, the constant thirst. I never got diabetes. I just had to train myself to stop drinking water every hour or every time I got thirsty. You have to figure humans didn't evolve with a water source nearby to sip from every 20 minutes, drinking too much isn't natural.
That's because you're taxing your kidneys for no good reason and pissing out electrolytes like magnesium and potassium in quantities that you probably shouldn't be.
Reduce your salt intake and your water intake slowly, no one needs a gallon of water a day and it's far from optimal, unless you're running a marathon everyday.
God I thought I was the only one. I've been in the same boat for about 3 years now and at this point, if I forget my water bottle, I just have to go buy a new one because I get too thirsty otherwise.
input ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:21:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Polynesia? Have you been checked for diabetes. Probably nothing.
chardop ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:18:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a sticky note right on my work monitor that says "DRINK WATER". Takes up the whole sticky note.
I had the same thing on my college laptop back in the day, if that is more your age group.
I even have a "Drink water" sticky note on my bathroom mirror.
Your body can use a whole hell of a lot of water, and if you aren't used to drinking enough, you'll be shocked of how much it helps to simply hydrate.
Sounds like for you personally, you might be like me. My doctor said that some people just simply need more water than others. I used to have the feeling of thirst ALL THE FUCKING TIME. It never ended. Even now that I hydrate normally I still find myself feeling thirsty too often. Just the way I am, I suppose.
TLDR: go to excessive lengths to drink water.
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like my god, I'm playing a game at my computer and putting away what is like 2 litres in no time and having to stop to go and get more.
I've easily drank a gallon of water since I got home from work. But it just feels so good to drink it.
Most people are chronically dehydrated, but also if you're concerned get checked for hypothyroidism. It surfaces in a lot of weird ways like this. Always thirsty, lips dry, feet cold, etc. all the minor discomforts that a person can have basically.
I'm borderline hypothyroid and don't take medication but might start eventually. I'm never actually cold but my feet are always freezing.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:07:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No offense but that sounds rediculous. A day maybe, but two!?
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea it is weird. I started to force myself to drink. Up to 64 ounces a day. I would also only piss once a day. Couldn't be healthy but I just wasn't thirsty. Maybe I got it via foods.
It's common for people of certain ancestry to require very little water. Many native Americans from the southwest have been reported to go days if not a week without water and only minor discomfort.
The best way to stay hydrated is to buy a reusable water bottle you like and then LITERALLY TAKE IT EVERYWHERE. I go nowhere without mine; it's great.
numberIV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The part about it being too late if you're thirsty is complete bs though. The purpose of thirst is to tell you that you need to drink. You're not already dehydrated. They don't tell you that you're already starving by the time you're hungry.
r7ndom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I've experienced since I was a teen. Now I consume hundreds of ounces of fluid in a day, which isn't all that great in the afternoon or in middle of the night when you drank a liter of water right before bed... Note that I say this after drinking two sodas, two glasses of tea, two pints of beer, and at least five glasses of water in the last three hours.
It isn't a compulsion at a mental level (I never think about it) , I'm just thirsty most of the time and will drink when I've got it.
I'm always thirsty too, have been ever since I was a little kid. My doctor tests me regularly for diabetes (it runs in the family), but so far my blood sugar is just fine. I just make sure to keep a glass or bottle of water nearby and refill it whenever it gets low.
Now I'm taking spironolactone for hormonal acne and wow, I really crave water now. And salt. Mmm, salty goodness. (For those wondering, spironolactone reduces the amount of sodium your body can absorb. So a lot of the sodium you eat goes down the drain with your various wastes, and your body goes "Wait a minute, I'm trying to maintain my electrolyte balance here! Gimme more salt!")
I've always had the same issue. Blood tests have never come back for diabetes, and I'm in better than average shape... I looked into Magnesium deficiency symptoms, and started taking a supplement which seems to help a little bit, but it's still noticeable.
I've heard this so many times. But I also heard that just listening to your body is enough. When you feel thirst, drink.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your body has a thirst mechanism for a reason. It is not too late when you're thirsty. Godamn, why does everyone believe this shit?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a bit of a myth -- about it being too late. Our bodies are pretty good at alerting us when we need hydration. Drink when you're thirsty. No more, no less.
Im thirsty all the time too, not diabetic. I can't seem to find the cause. If I drink too much I get headaches because of overhydration
y-c-c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no science behind that claim! If I remember there's in fact publications to the contrary. Basically you should be fine drinking water when you are thirsty instead of forcing yourself to drink even when you don't particularly feel like it. Your body produces that sensation for a reason you knowโฆ
srd42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:29 on January 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What helped me start drinking more water in general more than any other thing was to just start every day by drinking water. When you wake up is often when you are most dehydrated and by sticking to this one habit you realize that it really is possible to make incremental positive changes and you might become more likely to drink more water throughout the day.
At least this is what I have found. There are also many articles about this being an effective first step.
Plus! - Being well hydrated helps you be in a better mood (see link), think more clearly, and helps you feel full (because sometimes you'll feel hungry and want to snack, when really what you need is water).
andr8009 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:35:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a silver bullet though and some people are exaggerating how much water you actually need to drink to stay hydrated. Here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbHp7cu2Ubk
Proven medical fact that After awhile when you drink 40 gallons of water a day for 2 straight months your bladder will enlarge to be able to only have to piss once every two weeks.
I always have a drink (usually water, but not always) in a glass or bottle with me at all times. As soon as one feels somewhat parched, a sip of water is sitting right there.
I have no idea how other people get by drinking so little so rarely.
I am one of those people who just don't seem to drink enough (save for coffee). I just don't notice. Same thing if you're hungry. You just don't notice after a while
Adequate water intake also greatly helps your digestive system. If you're having trouble pooping, drink a lot of water over the course of the day. It will help a lot!
Around June/July I completely removed sugary drinks from my life and switched to only water. It's amazing how much just changing what you drink can make you feel a lot different.
Drudicta ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:43:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus it helps a ton in hot, dry weather. I would know, I live in a desert. :D
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only drink water and booze. Weird thing is that I am never thirsty. I have to force myself to drink water everyday. Even before I started drinking s minimum of 64oz.
I don't think people really think of it that way though. Like, yeah you need water to survive. But it's probably the single easiest and hugely effective thing you can do to make your self feel better. No big diet change, you don't need to work out all the time. You can eat crap, smoke, and drink still. Just drink more water and you'll notice a big difference. Especially since most people don't drink nearly enough a day.
Yeah, I make fun of friends that don't drink enough. When I hiked a lot I developed the habit of drinking close to a gallon per day, and while I'm not at that level anymore it never fully went away.
Makes me think what's the deal with all the "don't get overhydrated" commercials.
ufbam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was awful at drinking enough water. Got an app for my phone the other day, 'water balance'. Now it's like a game to try and keep hydrated. Definitely took the tired look from my eyes..
I think the rule is, drink half your body weight in ounces everyday.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Completely agree! I have a habit of keeping 1 litre juice/cordial bottles once they are done and using them as giant water bottles. Fill them up, add a bit of juice if your feeling fancy, and carry them everywhere. I have about half a dozen around the house or in the fridge at one time, and one in my handbag. My skin has never looked so good, I no longer have headaches (which I assume was maybe from a bit of dehydration) and its helped with a more active/healthier lifestyle.
Its such a small change I think, but the benefits are massive. Plus, I'm a tad tight-fisted. I can't imagine paying for bottled water everyday when our tap water is pretty decent and free.
Zinski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Major ๐.
Major
sean7755 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure increasing my water intake is what cured the mild-moderate acne that I've had for 8 years.
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Having a water dispenser next to my bed has drastically increased how much water I drink. Mine is a simple ceramic one with a 5 gallon carboy on top. Put one where you spend the most waking time at home with a nice visible cup and it's crazy how fast you go through it.
But water tastes so bad and bottled water is too expensive
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also find people who will have water at dinner over soda/milkshakes look more fancy. Alcohol excluded from this, obviously. People who read the wine list always LOOK more cultured.
Keep in mind though, drinking 8 glasses of water per day is a complete myth; there's no scientific proof drinking extra water has any benefit. Your body is very good at letting you know when you need to drink. However, when you do drink something, water is the best option.
Dont forget.. You also nees it to live. Its not trendy its survival
atomater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, the ๐ is to drink water, then?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the past I would reach for a coffee during the day when I was feeling tired. Turns out dehydration is one of the primary causes of drowsiness, I started drinking a bunch of water and now I never feel tired unless I get very little sleep.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is such bullshit yet EVERYONE just blindly believes it. I would like to know where this misconception started...
I've found that... drinking water hasn't helped a lot. I rarely drink soda anymore, if only a small glass to compliment a meal more completely. But the majority of the time I drink water, and a lot of it. It makes me feel like crap (gives my stomach that butterflies feel), and while I do believe waking up is... somewhat easier, all the other effects are fairly nonexistent. The only reason I really drink it is because I dislike soda and it tastes better (I do a fair amount of lifting and moving).
Poof_ace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This, I cut out everything except alcohol about 2 years ago. I very seldom get sick, have lost and kept weight of, saved boatloads of cash not buying soda/tea when eating out and feel better overall.
Absolutely. Part of my new year's resolution is to drink the right amount of water daily. I was never getting anywhere close to it before. Now I'm more energetic, my mind is the clearest it's been in a long time and it's even helping keep cravings in check. And, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's even helping my mood. The things proper hydration can do is amazing.
It doesn't just make you look more awake, you are more awake. I love coffee, but nothing wakes me up quicker in the morning than a pint of chilled water.
If you always feel tired the number one thing I would ask is are you getting enough water, I drink two to 3 litres a day and rarely feel tired or worn down.
IAmBroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough, it keeps you more alert, too. I've stayed up all night without getting sleepy, and without caffeine or other drugs, simply by drinking lots of water. When I wanted to then go to bed, I did... no post-coffee jitters stopping me.
Late, but. Yeah. Then there's my sister/roomate who takes that advice and can't get a decent nights sleep because she's up 2-4 times a night to pee. Or can't go 45 minutes without peeing without exaggeration.*
Now she has health problem because of it (and other horseshit white girl food issues). And has chronically low electrolytes from obsessively drinking water (thereby flushing out minerals and throwing off the balance) due to trendy advice meme she read years ago.
Bottom Line : Drinking ____ cups a day is debunked, shitty advice. Drinking A glass of water in the morning, and eating vegetables will absolutely give you the hydration and benefits you need. Further adjustment for diuretics or if your low on water retaining carbs for the days eating.
*Or can't give 10 god damn minutes in the bathroom alone without saying "I have to pee!". But no, nah, I'm not bothered. I'm cool. Really.
TL;DR Drink a tall glass in the morning before breaking fast. Eat vegatables. Adjust accordingly. And that's good enough.
On the same note, MOISTURIZE! I know it seems girly, but as a guy it makes your skin look 100% better and people notice.
Good skin is the most underrated attribute IMO. (No offense here...) You know those overweight people you see and think, man if only they lost a few pounds....Well I'll bet 9 times out of 10 they've got great skin.
I've learnt that as a man I can either get away with scruffy hair or a scruffy beard, but never both. I'm currently rocking short neat hair and a stubbly tramps beard.
sylinmino ยท 1976 points ยท Posted at 18:51:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scruffy everything gives off the impression that you don't care for how you look.
When you have parts that are deliberately neater and more styled, the parts that are scruffy look more deliberate.
[deleted] ยท 1462 points ยท Posted at 20:23:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just the impression that I don't care. It's an accurate observation.
I always make an effort after a bad night out to try and bring some respect back to the situation... I'm currently sitting at work with brushed hair and a nice jumper... All of my colleagues know that last night must have been a messy one.
Are you lost? The title of the thread is ways to make yourself more attractive. If you don't care if people are attracted to you why the fuck are you here?
I'm married and in the same IT job for the last ten years. I started my first few years with dry cleaned clothes. Then just dry cleaned pants. Then polos and nice pants.
I'm lucky to even bother wearing pants now. Let alone shave and worry about my balding head.
TedUpvo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey look, my catch-phrase.
mealzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like your non style
Chuurp ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:14:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also applies to clothes/hair.
I've noticed that I can get away with fairly scruffy looking clothes if my hair's good. It just looks like a style. Once I let my hair go a bit though, it just looks sloppy.
Sloppy hair also sometimes looks like a style if I'm wearing nicer clothes. That one seems to be a little more hit or miss though.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:07:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also applies to just clothes. You can have a really distressed piece mixed in with some cleaner pieces and it just looks fashionable. Go all distressed pieces and you just look homeless.
Am I, like, the only one around who has a genuine love of homeless fashion? You can have a completely crust-punk fashion sense if you compliment it with a kind personality and a striking intellect.
I want a partner wearing dumpster-dived denim cut-offs, a promotional t-shirt, accidental dreadlocks, and a bachelors in engineering. But hey, that's just one mans opinion.
Not to tell you how to live your life, but I'd be cautious about that mindset. One of the secrets to an extremely happy and long lasting marriage is to never stop trying to woo your spouse. This can be in many different forms, obviously, but the important thing is to not treat the actual wedding like the endgame where it can stagnate past that.
Idk, just putting it out there. Feel free to disagree with me. One of the nice things about marriage I guess as well is that you don't always have to remain at the top of your game. But you should still try for it once in a while, right?
Though if you keep a good haircut and don't grow facial hair, that's already a chunk of the battle.
Vleda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In other words, your wife should always be your girlfriend. (If that makes sense)
I'll admit, I'm not married (still in college), but my parents have taught me a ton about healthy marriage just by how they treat it. I this respect, the sentence you used really does apply. Both my mom and dad still go to the gym at least 2-3 times a week (my mom goes like 5 times a week), still try to surprise each other with new clothing (whether on themselves or for each other), have a date night at least once every week or two. Even when my parents are lounging around in the house and don't have their hair or clothing super well done, they're still showered and not looking bad or disgusting by any means.
It's a bit like the old beaten down WV Beetle I saw a while ago. The paintjob was faded and it was full of (surface) rust. But it was spotless when it came to dirt, and the rims were shiny.
Looked really cool, while a bit of grime and different wheels would have left a very different impression.
I read your username as stylinmino. It seems appropriate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think if you are athletic and clean, it doesn't matter how scruffy facial/head hair are. Clothing can be unimpressive too as long as it's not falling apart.
Yeah I hardly style my hair either. I just keep it short. But I'm almost always clean shaven and dress nicely. And as long as the food I eat is healthy and I'm working out consistently, my skin stays pretty clear too.
Depends who they're trying to impress, I guess. As a lady, I find some scruff basically irresistible. Bonus points of you're wearing thick rimmed glasses. I should stop before I get carried away...
That's the key--some scruff shows that you do care how you look, but don't care too much so you're not insecure about it. It shows attention to oneself, but relaxation about it. At least, that's what I'm theorizing.
But out of curiosity (not because I'm challenging you, but because I'm curious), what if the guy not only had messy hair and facial hair, but also always walked around in a worn out t-shirt, gym shorts or sweatpants, and flip flops? That's what I'd think of as an overload of "scruff", no?
It's also a matter of how that person carries it, no? A CompSci student who just spent the last 15 hours in the engineering building has levels of scruff that is hard to really consider attractive. And that's far different than that of someone who just came back from a backpacking trip and didn't shave while on it. I should also mention that I've been in both of these scenarios :).
circa717 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe hipster?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah exactly. I think there's some sort of psychological appeal to women as well. We want a man that's well-groomed and domesticated enough to fit in with society, but not too much.
People hate on this type of style a lot, but that's exactly where the appeal comes from. I bet that beard actually requires a fair amount of upkeep, but it doesn't look like it does.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:53:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I agree. I spend a lot of time making sure I do my laundry correctly, as well as ironing. I just like wearing nice looking clothes all of the time cause it feels good, and it supplements the fact that my hair is always messy cause I honestly don't know wtf to do with it. But, once you have a sizable collection of nice clothes, it takes very little effort to just grab something out of the closet and throw it on, knowing that no matter what, it looks nice.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 20:31:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:06:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it offends anyone, it just probably makes you look more attractive to them if you don't do that. That's what this whole thread's about.
rawbface ยท 5094 points ยท Posted at 18:52:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap you're right. I never put it together before, but if I'm bumming it and do my hair, I look rugged, while if I'm clean shaven but leave my hair messy I look suave. But if I'm scruffy and my hair is messy I look homeless... Nice insight.
I just turned 36. I will always remember this as the age when I stopped getting carded every time. I stopped pulling out my ID because I got tired of hearing "You're ok, sir!" It's enough to make a man quit drinking.
Before I started getting the grey on the sides to go with the thin on top, if I thought they might card me I just gave them a big grin and showed them all the crow's feet.... :)
People always assume I'm much younger than I am, which sucked as a early 20s or a teenager. Now I'm almost 30 and people usually think about 22-23. I need to stop smoking though. I feel like it's gonna catch up to me.
I'm 28 and if I stay clean cut and shaven I look like my wife's teenage son. I've been rocking a short, semi-ginger beard for 4 months now and the other day when I bought wine for cooking the cashier tried to go about everything else before doing the age verification and said "Oh, you're old enough." I felt pretty good about that.
But if I let it get more than about 3/4 of an inch in length I look like I just crawled out of the gutter and am going to stab you for a ham sandwich.
I always ask my girlfriend when shaving/trimming if she wants the 16, 18, or 20 year old me. I'm 25. My girlfriend is 36, so I really do look like her teenage son.
A lot of places that sell booze have a policy of carding everyone. It makes sense just to cover their asses. Also, if they get the same kind of treatment a lot of tobacco shops get, then the narcs probably come in somewhat regularly to secretly test that they're carding people.
Back when I worked for an unnamed gas station we had a guy get fired like this in the most ridiculous way. The policy is if they look under 40 you card them. Guy comes in and buys a pack of smokes. This man is obviously old enough to pass this test so he doesn't get carded. As soon as the sell was final you hear him laugh in glee while slamming his I.D. down. He was 39. Poor dude got fired that night over that BS. I learned that day that no matter how old they look (even 90) I'm going to card you. You can complain until you are purple in the face. My job is on the line.
There are people who thrive off the suffering of others. It's cruel and wrong but such is the world. Life is a harsh place. If you can't thrive in it or speak the doublespeak around then you lose. I learned that no matter how much sympathy you spread if you aren't ready to cover all your bases it's over.
sunnyjum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... surely you don't have to check them if their ID says they're under 40, only if they LOOK under 40. Otherwise the age on the ID determines the age that you check the age on the ID, which renders itself redundant.
That really sucks for the guy you used to work with.
It is. It's actually hugely redundant but how do you gauge someone's specific age like that just on sight. I think the point is to check everyone's ID but in order for corporate to make a show about "fast friendly service" they have to do something to show that they "expedite the process". It all boils down to no matter what your situation is you can easily be replaced and in this economy it isn't hard.
I used to work door at a place like this. Our policy was to card everyone even the grey haired lady with the walker with the tennis balls on the bottom of it. I've lived in Europe and travelled the world and the whole 21 to drink think in America is rediculous to me. I felt embarrassed having to get my manager to yay or nay letting some senior citizen into our bar. Also, on that note, when youngish Europeans would try to come into the bar with no ID and get all pissy when I asked for their ID, stating that in their country they were allowed to drink at 14 or whatwver. Yes, I know our laws in the states are rediculous but this isn't your country. Just because you can drink at 16 in Denmark doesn't mean you can in America. I'm just trying to do my job. You should know by now that you're going to get carded here in the states. And furthermore, when Europeans come into bars and restaurants and don't want to tip or act ignorant to the culture it pisses me off. If you're even remotely worldly or well traveled, you know that the service industry in the states Survives off tips. Yes, we should have a better wage for our service workers but we don't. Don't act like you "didn't know" we have a tipping culture in the states.
I'm in my early twenties and am one of those people. I'm one of those that got away with everything underage from always hanging out with older people, and my high school boyfriend had such an epic beard he didn't get carded when he was 16, so I don't take chances. Plus if I card one person at a table. I card everyone. Unless they're like really obviously 45+.
I'm 22 and look like I'm in my early 30's because of the way my beard/hair looks currently. Kind of hard to flirt with girls my age if they think I'm 10 years older than them. Having grey hair in both doesn't help either haha
tarsn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:28:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience girls around that age love older guys
Not a problem if your hairline starts to recede at 25
Silent-G ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:15:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hairline started to recede at 22, everything else was thinning by 24, currently 25 and recently decided to just stop trying to hide it and shave it all off. It's so much easier to just shave my head once a week and not have to think about it rather than spending every single day trying to comb my hair just right and keep it that way for the whole day.
I'm 20 and my hairline has been slowly receding since high school. I got lucky though, my brother had to start shaving his heading his junior year because he was already going bald (receding hairline combined with a big bald spot on the crown of his head).
I hear ya brother. I finally shaved my head at 30 and now it's just one less thing to worry about. And I save $20/month on barber trips.
I also realized that now that I am married and have an infant daughter, nobody gives a shit what I look like anymore anyway.
Yevad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, I feel like i get carded more often in my 30's then in my 20's because now I shave more often.
Turned 28 today, expect to be carded when going out because I'm gonna shave.
I don't mind because I know I'll be able to pick up all the young hot chicks at the bars if I end up 40 and unmarried ;D
Vleda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than being the opposite. Rugged features, early receding hairline, built like a brick shithouse and walking with a slight limp from an injury as a kid. I looked like I was in my late 20's when I was 16. Lol
Hell, I remember once at a party when I was 17 I almost hooked up with a chick who was a year younger but she stopped me to tell me she really likes me but can't because she's only 16. I asked her why that would be a big deal and she got weird and disappeared. Turns out she thought I was the host's dad. Da'fuck?
It never really clicked to me until I realized 90% of the women I attract have daddy issues to some extent. Most people guess I'm almost 40. I shed a manly tear inside because I'm still in my early 20's.
Not trying to say I'm ugly, I just look old. Well maybe I'm a little ugly, but still.
To be fair though, in some states, if you look under 35 you have to be carded.
Source: I'm a cashier
w0wzers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Samething here, I'm 31 My ID picture is a picture I took when I was 12 so that doesn't help the situation.
SazzeTF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hasn't your ID expired? Here in Sweden regular IDs (like the ones from banks) expire after 5 years, and international IDs and passports after 10.
w0wzers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it does but they have auto renew so I did that every time it was going to expire, I'll be 37 when it expires but they have new Id regulations so I might have to actually get a new picture.
jblv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arizona?
mfred01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell? I had to get a new ID when I turned 21. And then every few years after that.
w0wzers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to get a ID when I was 12 to fly(thats what i was told) then when I was 16 i got my learners permit. The person at the dmv processing me had some degree of down syndrome and they tapped the screen and didn't select the picture i just took for the permit, and then 2 weeks later I got the id and been auto renewing ever since.
23 here, still hoping ill get a beard for my 24th....
besaah ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:34:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just get a toupee and some glue. worked for me.
Vleda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a transplant? They can extract a few pubes and give you a healthy chin dusting. Hell, the more the better, right? It's practically a win/win; less maintenance to keep your dick from looking like it came straight out of Jumanji and you get a full beard.
Nofgob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guys just need to go bald, then you just look like you have cancer.
Not OP either, but if I am clean shaven I look 19, if I don't shave I look like a 14 year old Latino boy on his first try at facial hair.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:03:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I look like a nerd. Sure I look smart when I do but I still look weak as shit when I do that combined with the casual dress shirts I always wear and the glasses I occasionally do wear.
A year ago I started growing my beard out and thought it looked okay, then decided to shave it and looked at myself and thought I looked like a little fricken kid. Never again will I shave, at least be close shaven. I'll forever have a beard of some kind lmao
I think it's just contrast effect. I thought I looked okay (got plenty of attention from the opposite sex as well) when clean shaven, and when I shaved after growing out a beard for a month or 2, suddenly I looked pathetically bland and unmanly. I couldn't imagine any lady being interested in me again. That feeling eventually faded as I got used to my old look again.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:43:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Practice expressions in the mirror. When viewing shows with good looking shaved men, try to imitate their expressions while watching.
People think I am 20-21 when I am clean shaven. I am almost 27.
JezzaN1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haven't clean shaven my face for about a year and a half as i look like a child when i do. it is honestly night and day between having some well groomed stubble and a clean shaven face for me.. i'm scared to go back.
I definitely look like a man when clean shaven and hair done... Maybe you should try a different haircut then the same one you have had for years? Im about to turn 22. With facial hair i can pull off maybe up to 30, but i definitely look my age clean shave and hair done. Right now i have chops and a goatee that have been growing since the first of dec. and people keep asking me if I have kids and talking to me about "our" generation when im actually just a stupid millennial
Definitely this. My wife hated my facial hair when I was 21 and grew shit. Now that I have a decent beard she still talks shit, but I shaved the day I proposed and she said, "What the fuck did you do?"
I looked 15...just like when we met..
Best part?
Her coworker told her I was definitely gonna propose. She said I couldn't because the ring was being sized. Expedited. Blew her mind.
Same here. When my hair is neatly trimmed and cut and my face is cleanly shaven I will honestly get carded for an R-rated movie. I'll be 29 next month.
He would probably, and he'd think I'm weird and give me crap about it for a while. My barber is a friend of mine, I get my hair cut in his living room and in exchange I babysit his kids.
I agree, my facial hair grew when I was 11, and continued to spread like a pine forest across my face.
Now 17 and trim beard and clean it up every other day, makes for a nice look.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:42:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all about the double dirty look. I'm a straight male, but 5 days without a shave and messy long hair speaks to me. I'm also a dirty fucking hippy.
chase82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also rock that look. I work in R&D and wear a lab coat. They call me mad scientist. Really, I'm more of a mad engineer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right on brother. I work as a personal trainer and also make cold pressed juice for a yoga studio. Khakis, tie dye, and flannel everywhere I go. Clients don't seem to care or notice and the juice always comes out great. A smile and good physical condition go a long way.
Same. I have long hair for the first time and I feel like such a hobo some times. But then I trim the beard and I got that John Wick thing going on and I get lots of positive feedback.
Yup , I purposely don't shave and have long hair pony-tailed in order to look homeless. I'd rather be judged on the content of my character then by how I appear. Get's rid of shallow people pretty quickly :D
Yeah, I'm well into the hobo phase at this point. If I have a hoodie on with the hood up, I just look like the Unabomber. I do have aviator glasses to complete the ensemble.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, For women I learned in my teens that wearing clothes revealing legs should have conservative top without cleavage, back, or too much arms, and when revealing more upper body (cleavage, arms, shoulder, back) should have below knees covering legs if not down to ankles. There are variations but when both top and legs are revealing then it is trashy looking to be avoided. Source: dressed slutty in high school and did not follow above advise
I just realized this can apply to girls too. I can make my hair nice and no makeup and I look pretty good, and with makeup and messy hair it looks like I did the messy hair on purpose. I'm totally taking advantage of this later.
Late to the holy crap. Can't find it but I found some picture of a model who's apparently fairly known in the gay community. I couldn't put my finger on why his style was perfect but /u/Dawn_Of_The_Dave just nailed it.
He was toned, with a big ass scruffy beard and that flawless side shaved hitler youth cut young guy have these days. Scruffy and flawless. I've heard the term "Hi-Lo" used in similar fashion, for fashion, and style in general. Even art. Ie; "I listen to baroque chamber music, and trap beats"
Anyways.
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that flawless side shaved hitler youth cut young guy have these days
an undercut? I have one too, and the worst part about it is how you can't change to a different hairstyle without letting it grow out and look messy for a while. Looks like I'll be shaving until my next haircut!
Precisely. I gave it a shot, then just shaved my whole head because I never had. Or "Ukranian Mobster" as I like to call it. I suppose you could grow it out and trim the top, but the stylist would have to be good.
The female equivalent is colour; you can have colourful hair or colourful clothes, but both makes you look like a children's entertainer.
Octavia9 ยท 1405 points ยท Posted at 21:10:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend I wish would get this. She's short, past 40, overweight, with pink hair and hot pink and purple clothes and crazy bright makeup. She looks like Mimi from the Drew Carey Show.
henkera ยท 829 points ยท Posted at 22:31:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She's short, past 40
The exact point in the sentence where I thought: "he's going to say Mimi from the Drew Carey show".
I've often wondered if he got sick. I know I shouldn't because according to his book he was very thin before beer. But he looks really gaunt to me, but maybe that's age.
Edit - In this pic its the hands that make me feel so.
score_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:48:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been a long time since I've seen that show, but if there's one thing I remember about Mimi, it's that she didn't give a single fuck. So good for her I guess.
The point is contrastโ whether it be in art or design or fashion or what have you. When everything's bland, nothing stands out. When everything's vibrant, nothing stands out. When everything's different, again; nothing truly stands out.
Contrast is important in order to draw attention to certain appealing things or whatever it is you are trying to draw attention TO. Pocket squares, ties, eye shadow, lipstick; you choose ONE or TWO things you really want to draw attention to, and you make them a nice, bright or contrasting color. Even just dressing in muted colors with one vibrant color does the trick. Or, adversely, dressing primp and proper, keeping your facial hair trim and neat; then adopting a tousled hair look is perfect.
Contrast draws the eye, makes things stand out, downplays other elements, and ultimately can pull together a work of art, some interior decorating, or an appealing outfit.
People always found it funny - I wear totally benign colors. Grey, black, blue jeans, browns, a flannel over it if I'm painting or working outdoors. Very boring. It's just my preference, I am not a "loud" person.
My hair, however, is very much blue and turquoise. People notice it right off that bat. I don't do it for them, I do it because I friggin' love the colors, but don't want to wear them as clothing. But you're absolutely right, people comment on it all the time. (And not in a bad way at all - or if they do, I don't hear about it.)
I have a friend I wish would get this. She's short, past 40, overweight, with pink hair and hot pink and purple clothes and crazy bright makeup. She looks like Mimi from the Drew Carey Show.
I'm at the point where I don't think it's anyone's business what another person chooses to do with their hair, clothes or makeup.
I used to judge people for not dressing "their age", like there was some arbitrary number where they were no longer allowed to outwardly express themselves how they wanted but instead had to wear makeup in muted shades, and strings of pearls and sensible shoes. I got a lot of that outlook from my mom, who was always pretty conservative anyway, but especially so as she's gotten older.
But as I get older, I'm finding that I don't want to abandon the way I look for a more "mature" appearance, just because I was raised to believe I should. I am by no means edgy in a modern sense (i.e., only a nostril piercing, one small tattoo on the back of my neck, regular old red hair from a bottle), but if I want to wear eyeshadow that would make a macaw jealous, or cut the shoulders out of my t-shirts and wear skinny jeans, I will. Not because I have some need to tell the world who I am - trust me, what you see is not what you get - but because I like what I see when I look in the mirror.
I'm just doing me, and I won't be held to some unwritten standard for how we should present ourselves as we age. As long as I think it looks good, fuck what anybody else has to say about it.
You'll hold to those standards if you want to be evaluated well, for you will be evaluated by those standards, by and large. Obviously some people won't care, but that's not society. "Not caring what people think" is great for manic pixie dream girls who look sexy while doing it, but not so much for people who just look like a socially unaware train wreck.
For the record I find androgynous alt girls with pixie cuts super attractive..... But some people have really poor taste in clothing and they can't pretend that taste is completely relative. It's like making music some people like, vs making music randomly without concern for atonality... You can legitimately say the music sucks, and it's not illegitimate statement just because you're using a standard of a musical scale to base the statement on.
Octavia9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really care what she wears except when she rants about how great she looks and waits for me to agree. It's awkward.
Does it matter as long as she's happy with how she looks?
rmphys ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:01:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely not! But the entire point of this thread is to be advice for people who aren't happy with the way they look and generally want to be closer to societal norms of beauty. If someone wants to do something else, no one should care, but its just not relevant.
Octavia9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't except that she fishes for compliments. Her kids are embarrassed of her behavior more than he dress. She drinks with her teenage daughter and tries to sleep with her daughters male friends. They are 18-20 but it's still weird.
pirarchy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:56:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knows your friend.
roxxe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is she single?
Octavia9 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:55:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She is and her ex husband would love for her to have someone new to stalk.
Well by your unflattering description I imagine it's her way of competing for attention in a world where over weight 40 year old women aren't a hot commodity.
I think every person knows that '40+ overweight woman with brightly coloured hair and weird clothes', usually accompanied by bad tattoos and a piercings.
navybean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed it happens a lot more with unattractive women, or women who believe they're unattractive. They won't admit it but most of time I'm convinced it's a sort of rebelling so hard against being attractive.
Octavia9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think she is clinging to the past. She was a stripper and NBA basketball cheerleader once upon a time. She craves attention.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The colours are to compensate for the fatness. Trust me, I know. I paint my face and put my hair up just to go grocery shopping to make myself look passable and maybe distract from my lardass. I also know it doesn't work....sigh
Octavia9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not happy with how I look either. Not fat but showing my age at 36. I try to be and dress invisible which isn't good either. While I don't care for the bright flashy look, I admire the self confidence of women who go that route.
Gohack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Pick 2: Skinny, young, and attractive. (To wear out of the ordinary hair colors.) If you only qualify for two of these traits, it might work out. Anything less you might think it looks great, but it is probably not aesthetically pleasing to those around you.
Personally I just really hate seeing pink in women. It's not like red which is brashly a color of desire but neither is it white which might symbolize purity. It's somewhere stuck in the middle and in most of the girls I've seen sporting this it generally indicates that this person has been brought up on Disney and just wants to be a perfect little princess.
Both honestly. The latter I find somewhat more disturbing but really it's just a matter of personal aesthetic. With that said I can see how my comment makes me seem like a total asshole. Perhaps a better phrasing would have sufficed.
Or the loose / tight thing. You can have a loose top and tight pants or a tight top and loose pants, but both of either make you look sloppy or trashy.
(I'm talking tight, not fitted. Fitted top and pants is fine.)
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 22:08:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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bamforeo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:56:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg this is the struggle.
I just wanna wear cute crop tops without looking like a tiny tent ):
I was asked when the baby was due when I was 14. I stopped wearing flowy empire-waisted tops after that. Almost a decade later and I still refuse to wear loose tops.
eukomos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:49:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will very frequently look too intense for the situation. It's not universally true; if you're going to a fancy casino or you're in a play then a smoky eye with blood red lips will look great. But in most situations a look like that will wear you, not the other way around. That's just life, and aesthetics. Both of which are notoriously unfair.
Your answer makes it sound like these dramatic looks are worn by mousy people with no confidence. Then yes, the look might wear you. But the society I live in is full of awesome people with different styles that fit them perfectly.
Rules of makeup are stupid, since makeup often is used as a way to show your inner self to others. A dramatic lip and dramatic eye is no big deal if it's worn with self esteem (especially on a cool person with clothes that fit the style). I see confident women wearing bright red lips and smokey eyes as their daily makeup all the time and it always looks great. So if they dare to - good for them!
People really should stop telling other (women) what's alright and not alright to do with their own face. If they feel good about it, it's never "too much". Don't be the person pushing people down for having fun with their appearance - it's none of your business what so ever.
eukomos ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:38:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're in a thread about how to look attractive, do you really think your appearance is no one else's business? It's the business of the people you're trying to attract, the business of people whose respect or goodwill or trust you're trying to get. We do huge amounts of communication with our appearances in our society. When you wear makeup that's visible to everyone, or that's invisible to most people, or none at all, you're making a choice about what you're trying to communicate. There is no opting out of this system. And bright lips with dark eyes (or even bright eyes, if that's your jam) is not always going to communicate what you want to say to people about yourself, no matter how much you love the individual colors.
If the colour of an eyeshadow determines whether or not someone's being respected, I'd say the person judging is the one with the problem.
Also, don't forget that the top post in this thread is about not complaining.
NoDoThis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:51:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're going all out, and headed to a night club or somewhere else where it's dark but you need to look nice, a dramatic lip and dramatic eye at the same time really is too much.
Also, I don't think things can be myths if there's no solid answer. I think it's a pretty common "rule" of make up application, however.
Ugh. Sorry, but I don't buy that, I think it's a pretty shitty attitude.
Rules of makeup are stupid, since makeup often is used as a way to show your inner self to others. A dramatic lip and dramatic eye is no big deal if it's worn with self esteem (especially on a cool person with clothes that fit the style). I see confident women wearing bright red lips and smokey eyes as their daily makeup all the time and it always looks great. So if they dare to - good for them!
People really should stop telling other (women) what's alright and not alright to do with their own face. If they feel good about it, it's never "too much". Don't be the person pushing people down for having fun with their appearance - it's none of your business what so ever.
NoDoThis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:53:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, you're taking this incredibly personally and being unnecessarily rude. No one is telling anyone what to do here. It's a general "rule" that's pretty commonly heard, that's all. I personally find that people who do a big* dramatic eye and also dramatic lips tend to be a bit overdone for general day wear*, but that's just my opinion. Chill out.
Nope I'm not at all, I just think it's an unnecessary thing to say. Young girls and boys are affected enough already, they certainly don't need more people making up rules about stuff they might be curious about and grown up women don't deserve to go to work and be judged for their make up. I can't see that saying that this or that is "too much" is making anything better. You don't agree with this?
NoDoThis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:36:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm saying it's my opinion. I'm not going to walk up to someone on the street and tell them they suck or anything, it's just my opinion. I love women (and people in general) who rock their own shit and do what makes them feel happy, that doesn't mean that I personally find it aesthetically pleasing. It's a matter of personal taste. Again, not sure why you're making this into such a big effin deal. You don't like my opinion, I get it. I'm not oppressing anyone by having my own opinion on it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And people always do their lips last which is why they never notice their lip color is too dark until to too late.
eukomos ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:24:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has been so hard for me to learn. I love my brights, but when I put them all on at once even I'm uncomfortable. Last summer I had a day where I was aiming for restrained but fun, and ended up with a coral shirt (which is totally business casual-worthy on its own), orange lipstick, and yellow nails. A server at the liquor store commented that I was "not afraid of color" and I was like "what? But I left the turquoise eyeliner at home! What does society want from me?!" Clothes are hard.
That sounds kind of awesome. I learned my lesson the day the guy at the sandwich counter casually asked me if I took drugs. In retrospect the outfit might have suggested as much.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
agree. it would be even better with the turqoise too. Who gives a shit what the dude at the liquor store counter thinks? colour is fun
eukomos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, I'm not too bugged about the opinions of liquor store employees, but I had just come from work...
Orange may have been the kicker. I've only seen one person, who wasn't advertising the color, look good in a more orange shade...and it really was more coral. But I'm sure you looked cute! I fear colors
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a few colorful items of clothing, like a bright red skirt, things like that. One day at work a man really creeped me out by out of the blue saying something like, "Where's all your color?" like he had been noting my clothes each day. Not even I keep track of that. I think I wore black and gray for like a week after that though.
I think people just notice if you habitually wear color or not, especially in an office setting (which is usually plagued by muted, dull, neutral, what have you). They also notice if your clothes fit well if everyone else is wearing clothes a few sizes too big. It's a visual comparison thing.
I've experienced this too, but I also tend to mix a couple colors, a couple patterns, or a pattern + a color AND have bright red lips... so people notice when the lipstick is gone or if I'm decked out in neutrals.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd notice if a coworker wore a certain kind of clothes, but this was just some guy who apparently came to where I work often enough to notice, even though I'd never seen him before.
Depends. If the colours aren't too bright, it works perfectly. For example, I have violet to wine red hair, and natural greens and dark blues match perfectly.
I have brighter red and just about any shade of blue looks amazing, but almost every green makes me look like Christmas which is No me gusta.
I'm jealous. I never really missed green until it was a non-option haha
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:50:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you do it right. It's a matter of degrees, I find. My wardrobe is mostly pastels and brights with a lot of patterns (I don't do neutrals or darks well), and for years now I've been dyeing a few sections of colours like blue, purple, and pink into my hair. I can pull off both bright hair and clothes at the same time...it works best if I wear a colourful top and then a basic on the bottom, like a pair of jeans or some white denim shorts or a simple skirt.
You're absolutely right, and you obviously have a good understanding of colour. TBH anything can be done right if you're confident in what you're doing, and even if you're NOT really rocking it, the world will forgive pretty much any sartorial faux pas if you're a kind, funny ray of sunshine.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm more like a mawkish, friggen special ray of sunshine. ;) That seems to work too!
RedKamo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:11:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: it's hard to find someone who wants to bang a clown. But not impossible.
Pastels make anything (everything?!) easier on the eye. The main problem there is having to maintain pastel hair. It's like a part time job, I swear.
secsual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I ended up giving up and going brighter than I first wanted so it would gradually fade to something I like. I have different hair every time I step out of the shower basically haha.
Yeah, I've always felt since I have so much color on my head (natural redhead), I need to keep my clothing colors pretty muted or I'll look like a clown.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makeup too. A smoky eye or a red lip, pick one, not both.
I pick colorful hair! Although I prob only have a few more years left of being able to test the limits of how red I can go and still look good (especially now that I'm entering the professional world). I'd rather keep being able to have some level of my obviously not natural color, and dress like I never really moved past a goth stage (I wear mostly dark colors and dislike patterns).
It's important to point out that looking like a children's entertainer is necessarily a bad thing. If anything you're doing brings joy to the infants of the world I'd say you're living well.
Not sure if this is only for females, but you're right that is probably more applicable there.
Suddenly, I'm not so concerned about my mostly monochrome wardrobe. This makes so much sense, I'd never really noticed that before.
Tylensus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree! I think people should wear less professional or nuetral colors in general. Colorful hair is always a plus for me.
marlow41 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:08:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One could also, if avoiding colored hair, accessorize their hair with colored things like hats, ribbons, bands, etc... But I'm a guy, what do I know other than that shit is super cute 90% of the time.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 20:51:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Tylensus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:07:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware that most people style themselves the way they do intentionally. I just wish it was acceptable to dress how you'd like to at your place of work. Office workers shouldn't be limited to a pallete of black, gray, beige, and white. Obviously these aren't hard guidelines, but they're what employers expect for the most part.
My wife is an elementary music teacher. She actually is a children's entertainer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Serious question. Is there an age limit on colorful hair? I manage a decent sized group of people and a few Monday's ago I walked in to 3 women in their 30's rocking freshly dyed sea foam green hair. It felt weird if I'm being honest.
Probably depends on what you do and who you are. I know a sixty-something Dutch lady with very long, vibrant red hair. She is gorgeous and she totally rocks it. She's also crazy and makes great art. It just works.
There is a similar combination with clothing where the difference is sexy or sexual. Top half and bottom half clothing.
You can wear revealing top half clothing with abundant cleavage and bare skin but the bottom half should be decently covered- full length pants or below knee skirt. Or the opposite: short shorts/ micro mini skirt but with complete coverage of the top half- long sleeves, even a turtle neck.
Both together risk being asked how much for a blow job, one or the other leaves something to the imagination ie sexy.
And now I have boring browny-auburn hair and a predominately grey and denim wardrobe and I just feel blah because I had a boring conventional job for a while and couldn't be purple anymore.
That, and (for makeup) eyes OR lips. Very few people can get away with doing both in a serious situation. Theater/film/drag is different, but if you are going to a party, you can quickly look out of place/comical with too many focal points.
I'm pretty sure it's actually with clothes. You can wear the spaghetti strap shirt with pants, or you can wear the super short skirt with a blouse, but you can't wear the two sexy things together or else this makes you a skank.
More or less. People have very different opinions of what is too sexy though and if you care much about that you're going to have a bad day. For context, I live very close to a very large orthodox jewish area/ community. I'm not going to stop baring my whore legs and wench arms for their benefit.
mawrtian ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:21:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of my rule for my daughter: flowy top with a fitted bottom, flowy bottom with a fitted top top. Flowy on top and bottom looks frumpy. Fitted top and bottom looks trampy. (unless you are actively working out, not just wearing workout gear instead of real clothes)
chiller8 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:49:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caveat for tight top and bottom..tutu skirt over tights/leggings/jeggings to break it up. I have a 5 year old daughter and was taught the rules by my wife and sister. "Flowy" is taking up valuable space in the already limited sector allocated for vocabulary.
Clean cut up top, week old non-shaven beard on bottom. While I was home for the holidays, my dad just didn't understand why I had to go and get a haircut. Like bruh, gotta be clean.
I was actually going to comment on beard grooming. I keep a very short, neat haircut and a full beard. It goes over well even though I work in a very formal environment.
My own suggestion for the fellas (and maybe a few ladies) is to keep your beard hydrated. I apply a small amount of beard oil after my morning shower and use a bristle brush to smooth things out. It definitely makes a difference. You wouldn't go without conditioning and hydrating the hair on your head so why do differently for the hair on your face? The moisture gives you a healthy glow and adds a level of well keptness (if that's even a word.)
Tylensus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen a lot of videos about beard oil, and it never seems to add a visual difference. Is it just really subtle?
It takes a while for the effects to fully become evident since it's a daily regimen that improves beard health over time. At first it's just a superficial application but the real changes occur when you continue doing it daily and the oils fully penetrate the hair fibers.
For me, I have a beard that's blond, brown, and red, the hydration make it look warmer and brings out the darker colors without appearing oily if that makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:08:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hah, best advice an ex has ever given me! "Cut your dreads or shave your beard, you look homeless with both!" apparently it's not "sexy" to look homeless.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:39:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fix one and the other is clearly deliberate. People might not agree with your stylistic choice, but they can at least recognize that you put some effort into that miserable atrocity, which earns you a little respect.
It's true too. If you fixed neither, it's probably because you were too lazy. If you fixed one, you probably put at least half a second worth of thought into which one you'd do something about.
On a similar note, I have always been a shave once a week guy. I get real bummy. I also get my hair cut about once every other month. There are times I look like a straight up bum.
Then, this Christmas, I got a beard trimmer/groomer and my facial hair game is on point. I can tell by the way people look at me. My hair? Still wolfin', but I part it, so it looks fairly neat. I've also noticed that my single greatest physical feature is my head hair, so I make sure to keep it neat even when it's a little shaggy on the edges.
Tylensus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which of the two does he have nowadays? I need a haircut and finally have a beard. I've been thinking of taking my hair down to like a 1 and keeping the beard.
My God. Much like Isaac Newton, you, good sir, have stumbled upon a law of nature which lay before our very eyes since the dawn of time yet which no one had ever discovered until now.
cqm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Date Americans. They will come with a completely different valuation scale for you and your hair styles. Actually, all you'll need to do is talk.
HRP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hair is fucking atrocious right now and it's making me hate myself when I look in the mirror. Just booked an appointment to take care of that shit Thursday evening. Christ, it's been since May.
I've noticed something similar with women's clothing. A baggy flannel shirt with shorts or tights is cute. A long flowing skirt with a tank top is cute. Top and bottom loose-fitting looks sloppy, while top and bottom tight-fitting looks trashy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THISSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! I told my SO exactly this! He looks great with a scruffy beard and a fresh cut or clean shaven with scruffy hair but he likes to combine the best of both worlds and ends up looking like a crazy hobo.
I've got a question. A dear friend of mine rocks has messy, low man bun (plus bad, evident premature balding poor guy) and a lost-in-the-woods-for-a-month beard. Without the beard, he looks like a guy who lives in his mother's basement. Am I a bad friend if I point this out to him? I feel like it's kinda not my place, but he's only 22 and stopped getting carded at bars before he even turned 21...
can confirm, if your hair is shaggy shave and if your beard is shaggy cut your hair
Bones_MD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. I can't grow a full beard, but for roughly a week following a haircut (I do standard skin fades and gentleman's fades as my barber calls them) I can rock my shitty facial hair and I feel 100x more attractive than when I have longer hair and can't be assed to shave.
That's a solid observation man, one I've never really thought about.
What about long hair and stubble? Ive spent like a year growing this shit out so i aint cutting it but I look like im about 14 when im totally clean shaven. Recently went clean shaven for the first time in a while. That was a 5 day mistake Ill not repeat
McRodo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On beards, I never really cared for mine either until I bought some beard oil while traveling in the US. They are practically everywhere nowadays that beards are fashionable and they go a long way and the price varies depending on the brand. These things are fenomenal, they get rid of the beard smell and tidies up your beard a bit giving it a more natural look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can have Lumberjack or you can have Bedhead, but don't do them both unless you're going for Starving Artist.
Buwaro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am trying to grow my hair out for a new style, but it is in the in between stage where I can't do anything with it yet, and it is winter so I have a burly beard. I look like a bum.
Yuup, I'm doing the low shave with low cut hair. It's like a more suave daring look. But I have to keep the hair cut more than anything. Let it get out of hand, and I just look like a lazy bum.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the opposite. I've got long hair but a nicely trimmed beard.
Same but opposite. Clean-shaven and scruffy short hair.
The lineup is like ... one person long.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know... I haven't cut my hair in almost 2 years, and I trim my beard down to 1/4 inch once a month (though I still keep it clean), and I've never had any complaints.
YogiOak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Got shoulder length curly hair and decided to grow my beard out for a while. Took a family photo to realise it's one or the other. kept the hair and gone for a neat short small beard and have been told I look so much better
Yep, clean cut hair and long scruffy beard is very in right now. When I had both, I looked like a stoner. Now I keep my hair clean cut and my beard long, it's normal.
JakePF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment made me get up and shave. Congrats you were right, best advice I've gotten in a while. Thanks dude
Indulge in one vice at a time. Kind of the same idea
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I shaved today and felt a lot better about my messy hair, which never looks neat, no matter what I try.
So I guess clean shaven is just how I should be.
Someone told me I look like I've been writing a novel, may be time for a hair cut...because I'm not shaving my beard (I look like the boss so much that I am constantly mistaken for him by other company employees, he doesn't have a beard, so I'm keeping that difference)
This reminds me of the fact that my husband, before he met me, he would grow out his hair and beard all wild, then shave EVERYTHING bald when it got too long.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I'm rocking a nice beard finally, but I shave the sides of my head and keep a nice neat man bun. First day of college was today and I already received compliments.
My scruffy hair is staying, that's nonnegotiable. So that means I need to do something with my scruffy beard, but I don't know what. It's a bit patchy and thin in parts and light everywhere, I don't know how I can keep it looking good. And clean shaven is also a no go, I don't really have definition in my chin and I hate it.
#2 haircut and slight stubble, a semblance of having your shit in order mixed with a sense of mild alcoholism.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definite +1 on this. For about a year I had scruffy hair and a scruffy beard, only now do I realise how awful I looked. If I was some rock musician snorting cocaine off of groupies 24/7 it might have been okay, but I wasn't. I think facial hair suits me, so I have a very professional haircut with some 'free' facial hair and it seems to suit me a lot more.
happy_K ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you live in California. GF doesn't want me to ever shave or trim hair. Basically the more disheveled I look, the more she wants to bone.
What sucks for me is that I'm at that stage of a beard where the whiskers on the chin are nice and full but I still have the scraggly, nasty shit on my cheeks. Going to give it another couple of weeks to see if it fills in.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all about balancing it. Wear a really smart posh suit? Grow a bit of stubble. Wearing a leather jacket and jeans? Shave.
The SAFER version of this advice is that a clean shaven man is always attractive. Facial hair is ALWAYS a gamble.
bossmt_2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is incorrect. When it comes to any look your own confidence and personality are what sells it.
Granted it's apples and mega hot celebrities. But we've seen guys like Christian Bale, Jared Leto, Colin Farrell, Chris Hemsworth, and a stable of rock stars pull off long hair and scruffy facial hair. Now the catch and maybe what you're referring to is having a really long beard (like say Joaquin Phoenix in that movie where he pretended he was crazy in public)
But again, 90% of physically looking good is confidence. Especially if you're a guy. If you ask enough women you'll hear some very fugly dudes be described as attractive.
Cgdb10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old double scruff
E-sharp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So for minimum effort, cut hair, wait ~3 weeks for it to start to get sloppy, trim beard/shave, wait a week, and repeat. I've been rocking this cycle the past few months to great effect
3sheetz ยท 1856 points ยท Posted at 18:56:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
According to Tinder, don't mention you smoke.
EDIT: Also, don't smoke.
EDIT 2: Damn, this exploded and I thought it would get burried. For detail, I am a male and I've been "experimenting" with Tinder. Thought I'd be honest and mention I smoke in my profile and that resulted in WAY less matches. Not that I was rolling in them though. I AM trying to quit, and believe it or not, this discovery is helping. Always knew it was unattractive, but I'd never seen the results so obviously. I've been out of the dating game for a while and when I was, I surrounded myself with people who smoke at smoking friendly places (college). It was a lot easier then. Now I realize that it is true that less than 15 percent of the USA still smokes, and I know why.
Yes, I was only talking about tobacco. I pretty sure a massive amount more women find tobacco way more repulsive compared to weed.
Tebeku ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 20:36:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tobacco is gross. I think it's pretty much only attractive to other smokers since they want people to smoke around.
I think it looks cool. It's terrible for you, I definitely don't do it myself, but I'm not gonna sit here and lie to myself and say it doesn't look cool.
Something that was pointed out to me that changed my opinion was that it isn't the smoking, but the person. I mean when I think of cool people who smoke I think of James Dean, Audrey Hepburn, Jimmy Stewart (I don't know why I can only think of old actors). These are cool people who made the smoking look cool. Think of someone's old aunt smoking a pack a day in her pale yellow couch. I kind of imagine Mac's mom from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The image of a cool person doing a rebellious thing is badass. Also just a person having something in their hands is kind of cool. A stylish person with a cup of coffee can actually give off a similar vibe, but again has to be a cool person, otherwise you just look like everyone else.
It's all about the vibes you give off. Some days you look like an ugly fuck smoking a dart waiting for the bus. Other times you can be a cultured intellectual enjoying a puff as he reads his literature in front of a crackling fire. Edit: Wearing a housecoat. Disco cane optional.
[deleted] ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 22:17:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:04:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
grew up with a father who smoked a lot. has made me find the smell a lot more appealing than it has any right to be
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:18:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:20:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fair enough mate. i just really looked up to my dad when i was little, so it made me glamourise sort of everything about his character. the smell of nicotine is nostalgic to me.
My grandfather uses smokeless tobacco all the time. The smell on him and his shirts when I hugged him comforted me when I was younger and now, I know its disgusting but I still like the smell
Not necessarily. I have something of a crush on a smoker who drops by my place of work regularly and the instant the smell of smoke + cologne hits me, it takes a lot within me to resist the urge to strip naked and scream "take me now!"
Some people wear the smell really well. One of my exes smoked, and I never noticed it on his lips or hands, and my bff in college smoked. Whenever I smell someone smoking her brand I get nostalgic, not grossed out.
But my dad and his family mostly smell terrible, and I smell terrible after being with them.
And to be honest its a good conversation starter, smokers are a social bunch, and people just feel a lot more open when they're standing outside a bar than inside it.
Yeah. I must say, my favorite part about the bar might be the outside smokers conversation. It's like we all share the feeling of "fuck whatever is inside, I'm trying to be outside just chilling and smoking a cig."
I am not condoning it (quit six years ago) but I think it is sexy. The taste, the smell, everything. I fucked too many hot smokers in my formative years I guess.
The formative years are when you are 1-5 years old. Unless you actively grew up with a child predator, please consider changing your phrasing so you don't get confused downvotes or upvotes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a Monet. Looks cool at a distance, but up close it's a mess. The smell, the breath, the ashes and butts everywhere, the disgusting noises and coughs. It's just gross all around.
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:28:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Smokers always say they can, but they never do. Maybe they think they do, but it's always obvious, and disgusting, to those who don't smoke.
And that's not even getting into the longterm health implications, the callous disregard for the health of those around them, and the constantly having to halt what you're doing for a smoke break.
Seriously, smoking is a complete non-starter for me.
Did you ever consider that there are people out there that smoke but you didn't realize it because they didn't have those features? I am by no means trying to defend smoking, but that sort of mentality is a very common one. "All people of X kind have the really distinguishable Y trait." "No not all of them." "Well all of the X that I've seen are Y."
Sure, there's definitely gonna be a correlation. Someone coughing up a lung and reeking of smoke indicates pretty well that they smoke. But just because a trait shows an attribute, does not mean the lack of that trait shows a lack of that attribute.
Consider the fact that in the US, roughly one in six people smoke. In your day to day affairs, going to restaurants or shopping at a store or waiting in line at the bank, etc. etc. do you notice one smoker for every six people you see? I'm guessing not, but statistics would bear out that anywhere from one in ten to one in five people you would encounter on a regular basis are smokers. The number of smokers with glaringly obvious traits, however, I assume would be much smaller than that, unless you're regularly meeting or noticing people on a daily basis in those ratios that reek of smoke and and are loudly coughing and wheezing.
Now perhaps your own personal conception of a smoker doesn't "fit" the average smoker. There's a difference between someone that has a few cigarettes each week and someone that goes through a pack a day. But even someone that only spokes a cigarette once or twice a week is still considered "a smoker" and they avoid those traits just fine.
Mammal-k ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're being a dick. I don't smoke around other people unless we are outside, I don't blow smoke toward them, I am not disregarding any bodies health but my own.
Also I don't know about your friends but I can wait until I have finished doing something before I have a cig.
And on your previous comment; smoking outside, using a bin, chewing gum and good hygiene fix most of your complaints...
what he's describing is somone with a smoking problem. there's a difference between that and a smoker. I've dated someone that always tasted and smelled nasty and was always coughing and hacking and it made me gag to listen to. He smoked way too much. I've also dated lots of people that smoked, and it wasn't the same at all.
mrgmzc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YES. I hate everything about smoking but I'll admit that it looks incredibly cool. But, yeah, the smell hits and then I'm all 'get the fuck away from me'.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:43:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I started smoking. Sounds dumb, doesn't it? Probably is, but I just respect the work of all those highly paid marketing executives, who actually pulled it off that something so profoundly dumb is deeply ingrained in our collective cultural consciousness as cool, and I want a piece of their work.
SazzeTF ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:27:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, but to be honest people do a lot because it looks and seems cool. And to be even more honest, i tried cocaine for the sole reason that it looked awesome in movies - and hot diggity, it was awesome. Not wonder people get addicted to it!
I don't think it looks cool. But I think it's cooler than those huffers everyone has now. At least when you smoke tobacco, you are saying to the world "I know it's bad, and I know there are options, but fuck it, I WANT to smoke these things."
To be honest, I think it looks really lame. I remember all of the kids outside in the smoke pit outside of my high school during breaks. haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't feel like it looks cool. My dad always smoked and my dad was an Asshole, so I think I was never affected by the "cigarettes are cool" mentality. They've always seemed just like a way to shorten your life span very early.
But there is a similar thing I think is cool: having a Twislers in your mouth, constantly. A cigarette-length poking out. That's cool. Try it.
As a heavy smoker, I refuse to date women who smoke because I hope it'll help curb my helpless addiction. I can, and have, quit but only when I WANTED to and a non smoking partner helps me want to. Just a thought.
JakePops ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:24:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop waiting for the perfect moment, create the perfect moment.
So true. I want to be a musician and I spent forever trying to find friends who would join me in a band. After 6 years of saying "I can't because nobody will join me. Poor pitiful me." I just said fuck it and recorded some stuff and threw it online. I told friends about it and someone ended up calling me.
Oh man, 100% true. Like it just makes it that much easier to quit, because you don't have a reminder around or someone to bum from, and you don't want to drag her outside, etc.
lmao if you currently smoke you never actually quit you helpless drug addict so don't use that term because you don't deserve it, just belittles the real people out there who've done what you can only imagine ya fuckin chode
I started again after a 6 month break so yes I did not truly quit, I apologize for any insult. Also, calling me a helpless drug addict is less "ha in your face" and more of a sobering thing so thank you. I think.
Depends on the level of smoking. I smoke when I drink or I'm super stressed out (Maybe two packs a month at worst.). I find girls that do the same to be more attractive than non-smokers, but I find habitual smokers less attractive than non-smokers.
Finding out someone smokes immediately kills any attraction for me. I can't stand the taste. Have kissed really attractive smokers - instant disappointment.
I'd never thought about the taste issue from smoking until my very attractive friend told me at a Halloween party. Both a bit faded, she gives me a really seductive look and says "You shouldn't smoke, you know. Your clothes will smell better, your breath wink will be fresh".
As I type this I've got my vape pen and hopes for a smokeless, better-smelling-and-tasting future
The commercials with the "smokers be like" line make me want to buy a carton and consume the entire thing in one sitting. I don't even smoke habitually and it has that effect on me.
It's like having a craving out of obstinance. I know it's bad and I don't really want to smoke but obnoxious shit telling me not to smoke gives me a strong desire to smoke.
This is why I haven't tried tinder. It's nice to know that it's not filled with nothing but 64 year old men with a huge black van, tinted windows, and a box full of puppies in the back as I've imagined.
Rampachs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:07:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing about tinder is that if the 64 year olds are telling the truth about their age you won't ever see them if you restrict your age lower. And if they lie, you swipe against them and they can't message you. Only those you match with can message. As a woman who has used other dating sites, not having men as old as my father telling me 'age is just a number' was a huge plus.
I finally picked the thing in an attempt to meet more people. I musta been late to the "Hookup" boat. About 92% of the Profiles I read say "NO HOOKUPS, Serious BFs only" or some shit like that. Not that I wouldn't mind finding a GF on Tinder, but I want to talk to someone first.
Maybe I'm breaking one of the Two Rules of Attractiveness, but I've been getting zilcho bites, and when I do, they rarely respond.
Zur1ch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely don't smoke. I will say this on every relevant comment thread I can find until the day I die from something other than lung cancer: My Papaw was a helluva guy, and he did not deserve to die the way he did (lung cancer from decades of smoking). No matter who you are, someone out there feels like you're a helluva guy/gal too, so maybe don't smoke so they don't have to go through the process of you dying from something awful and preventable.
Yeah, it's not, nothing in life is 100% preventable. But why raise your risk by so many factors, knowing it's such a nasty way to die? Your chances of getting lung cancer as a non-smoker are miniscule compared to those of a smoker; there's an overwhelming body of evidence to back that up. It's like wearing a seatbelt - sure, you could still die in a car accident, but it's a good idea to wear the seatbelt, because it does indeed prevent you from dying in most car accidents.
kaizex ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:46:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sigh. My paps died when icwas 14 from esophegeal cancer. It stemmed from two things in his formative years, unhealthy eating (the larger factor actually for this specific cancer) and smoking. Always rhought i wouldnt ever smoke. But then life happened. Now im a pack a dayer. Ive got people who care for me and rely on me. And one day ill quit. When we start trying for a family ill quit. But today. Today i smoke for me. There are few things left in my life that i decided for myself. And this is one. Its a part of who i am based on that. One day soon ill decide a whole new life. And thats the day this habit will die. But today. I hold on to what i have
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:01:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a European who quit yesterday I would beg to differ. I realised that a very large amount of the people I know looked down on me for smoking and that it made me look trashy, so I'm done for now. Smoking fucking sucks.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man that first week after your last smoke is hell, but at the end of the week, stand up, and revel in how good your body feels compared to a week ago. It really is incredible, and you don't notice it at all until you quit.
England here, smokers are liked less and less. Everyone converted to vaping.
Personally I hate both but I mean who am I to judge you basically ruining everything about your life, and mine. 10/10
Meant to say the concept of smoking is liked less and less. My first point still looks about right, but my "social circle" isnt the mainstream, so I cant really tell you about peoples opinions. I used to hate smoking, still do. Idk about the rest of you
Fun fact, a lot of that "vaping is just as bad for you as smoking (maybe)" talk comes from big tobacco companies. I think they've even funded studies to try to prove it.
This is just blatantly untrue, and I don't smoke or vape. We know exactly what's in the liquid and it's a hell of a lot better for you than tobacco. No tar or smoke particles for a start, which do basically all of the damage of smoking.
We don't entirely know long term, but it's definitely not as bad as smoking. We don't really know what nicotine will do long term without being masked by the effects of the other things in tobacco.
You wouldn't be... Generalizing a topic would you?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:23:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're so uninformed its almost funny. Yes they do. It's called vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, and nicotine. Do moooore research. And no there are no dangerous fumes when these are vaped, because they don't reach a high enough temperature to do so.
Oh yeah, cause the FDA has an amazing track record with calling stuff safe, there's no history of them approving drugs or anything that's caused major health issues. Only way to know is by the public being guinea pigs and us seeing the effects afterwards.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao aight you could apply that same logic and ignore every item in a grocery store.
I mean your health is your problem. As long as I dont get harmed (passive smoking), and you dont stink (meaning I can actually be around you in social places), im fine.
Im personally against both. I dont see the point personally, but to be fair I dont drink so to each their own, right?
Its a way better alternative imo. I mean if you want to harm your body, you do you, but dont make me deal with the consequences of your actions.
Everyone knows you are a smoker. You can't hide the smell. We all know you sneak out to smoke. You stink when you walk into an elevator, into an office face, at the cash register, sitting next to someone on the train. You smell bad and you are annoying. I avoid smokers like the plague and have avoided relationships with people I have liked a lot because the smell is so gross to me.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:29:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EDIT: Also, don't smoke.
But my brain tells me that I enjoy spending lots of money propping up sadistic corporations that sue countries and that I actually enjoy littering and lowing my life expectancy and those around me :(
3sheetz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:31:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might be able to say the same thing about oil.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:10:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oil? Well we all know that's bad for the environment but it's pretty difficult to cut that out of a normal persons life.
Cut fuel out of your diet. You'll miss it for a month and then won't give a shit. I've had maybe 3-4 refuels over the past 2 years, they taste disgusting to me now. Only way I'll touch fuel or oil is if there's rum or vodka in it, and then it better be the sugar free kind.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it economically sound to install solar panels on my head now?
Hmm what if it's not cigarettes? I can't stand cigarettes they make me feel nauseous which is why I can't ever smoke them but I occasionally smoke weed (maybe 1 or 2 times out of the week). Also lately I've noticed that most guys don't mind that I do. And I've always wondered why they don't mind if they don't like to smoke themselves. Especially if smoking is an unattractive habit.
3sheetz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my book, weed, salvia, DMT, or any other smokable that isn't crack, meth, or PCP is fine.
According to Tinder in my city, if you don't rock-climb you're pretty much out of the running. Seriously, every single girl has pictures of them rock-climbing. There aren't enough rocks in the world for the amount of climbing they claim to be doing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not huge on cigarettes, I mean I've bought a few boxes when I go out, have like five or six within 20 minutes then begin to feel sick which makes me depressed and I always throw them away. I'm a pretty big weed smoker (several times daily) and for some reason I could never smell marijuana smoke, but I decided to smell my bong yesterday after smoking and it smells disgusting. Makes me question when I would smoke and walk inside incognito thinking nobody could smell a thing.
Aldog44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found a chick who's main pic was her smoking a bong made out of a ketchup bottle once. Fastest I've ever swiped right (after I took a screenshot of course)
I'm pretty ambivalent about dating smokers, but when it's such a part of your personality that you mention it on your profile, I find that problematic.
I'm tony, as you can see I work out and I love animals but I'm really into cigarettes and smelling my own fartsss
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I quit not too long ago, but I hated the smell of other people smoking. I started about 6 months ago for reasons I'm not going to get into, and it was fine during a smoke. The smell AFTER or smoke from someone else was annoying to have around.
It's not just about it being unattractive. It's about the negative long-term consequences it can have on your health. If the smell of smoke giving me headaches didn't scare me off, this certainly would.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Smoking is a hardcore deal breaker for me.
Yup. I was sitting next to a very attractive guy at the dmv but he smelled like an ash tray. It turned my stomach so bad I no longer found him attractive.
adavidz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to quit smoking, think about trying one of those electronic cigarettes. My mom smoked for decades. My dad got her an e-cig for christmas one year and she never had another cigarette.
vth0mas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ex-smoker, can confirm. I'm not swimming in pussy by any means, but I definitely get plenty more positive female attention than I used to. Two female coworkers in particular used to really treat me poorly, and that's since changed.
It's not just the smell. Those things are nasty and they ruin your health, make you irritable and snappy. They damage in you in so many imperceptible ways that, even though I'm still fighting off the last of the post-quit anxiety and depression months later, I am still astonished by how different I feel today.
So yeah, having potential friends not be scared away by your glassy eyes, furrowed brow, fidgety angst, bad scent, sarcastic yellow smile and your incessant need to break away from all the healthy people to do your nonsense is definitely a good idea.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair I was a smoker, I don't get why I wouldn't put it in my profile, they're going to find out anyway.
Another motivator: Your cum tastes absolutely horrible if you smoke. Quit smoking and there's a lot better chance of getting the girl to swallow when doing a BJ.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even really mind smoking, it doesn't gross me out the way it seems to gross other people out. Still wouldn't date a smoker (at least, not for more than a hot minute) because they're not a viable longterm partner. Chances are pretty good that they're going to get awful cancer and die an awful death and leave me alone at like, 70. I don't want to go into a relationship knowing there's some big habit of theirs we already have to change if we're gonna have a satisfying longterm partnership.
Can always do a social experiment. Best to do it with a female friend and tell them what you're doing, especially if you can show them.
Get a picture and make a female profile with a cute girl, make TWO. One smokes, one doesn't. Keep everything else the same. (Probably should change the picture though).
I legitimately will change the way I see someone if I find out they smoke. It means : 1) You are gullible and unoriginal and just follow the pack.
2)You probably smell bad which explains the amount of cologne you use.
Shhhh. Don't challenge people's biases on reddit or you'll get downvoted.
Tbh I'm actually amazed that so many think this way of smoking, it's like they don't realize that smoking is an enjoyable activity and that you're retarded for enjoying something unhealthy.
that you're retarded for enjoying something unhealthy
Yup. I'm wondering how many of these people are judging smokers through a haze of Cheeto dust, in-between checking their Hot Pockets and popping another Mtn. Dew.
Well, I mean doesnt smoking also involve vaping nowadays. Its just instead of cigarettes they vape. Same concept, same act, different product.
At least then youd have been just part of the pack, but honestly I dont understand how people get into smoking now that its a minority. Looks cool maybe?
PurpleMTL ยท 4777 points ยท Posted at 14:05:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your ass
orochiman ยท 1444 points ยท Posted at 17:16:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit don't change until you get up and wash your ass
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:14:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God bless the kid
mdogg500 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:26:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God blessed the kid, took his homie to the show and this is what he said...
juskajo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:37:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Fuck am I 'posed to do when I'm lookin' at walkin' licks?
The constant big money talk 'bout the mansion and foreign whips.
The private jets and passport, presidential glass floor.
Gold bottles, gold models, sniffin' up the ass for
Instagram flicks. Suckin dick. Fuck is this?
One more sucker wavin' wit a flashy wrist.
My defense mechanism tell me to get him
Quickly because he got it.
It's a recession, then why the fuck he at King of Diamonds?
No more livin' poor. Meet my four-four.
When I see 'em, put the per diem on the floor.
Now Kendrick, know they're your co-workers,
But it's gon' take a lot for this pistol go cold turkey.
Now I can watch his watch on the TV and be okay.
But see I'm on the clock once that watch landin' in LA.
Remember steal from the rich and givin' it back to the poor?
Well that's me at these awards.
I guess my grandmama was warnin' a boy.
She said...
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:12:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it was just a way of saying you can't expect things to get better by themselves, "get up and wash your ass" meaning the situation on Compton won't get better until people make am effort
Oh sweet! And that's a pretty good question. I imagine it has to do with the overall theme of the album, which is combating black commercialism, and marketing campaigns that are focused on blacks in America. My opinion is that it's about grounding the "kid" that the album is about, and reminding him of his roots in compton.
Think about it. "Shit don't change" is a double entendre. First meaning is in the colloquial sense you see people use that phrase and the second meaning is literal as shown by the rest of the lyric - washing your ass.
So then "wash your ass" becomes a double entendre as well. First meaning being the literal, second being doing what it takes to change real life issues.
I know this movie won't inspire many references on reddit. But I just have to say I am really glad to see at least one person saw it as well and made the connection haha this comment is too long
krankie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In public? And she didn't at all feel a little self conscious about doing that?
Tufflaw ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:05:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK so right now I want to you create an image in your mind, the first thing you think of when I say "crack whore" - she was 10x worse. I don't think "self conscious" came into play.
And she clearly had done this before, she pulled up her skirt to piss (while sitting on the seat) and then nonchalantly sprayed her horrible parts when she was done. And while it wasn't super crowded there were plenty of folks on the train.
I also saw a dude in Penn Station taking a shit behind a garbage can, he seemed surprised to see me walk by.
Yeah, and especially if you're going to be intimate with someone.. there are a few sexual positions that really highlight an unclean ass... It's nasty.
skynex1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:01:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually dumped a chick because it smelled like poo when I did her from behind.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depressing story: I once went to catholic school with a girl whose parents were Super Catholic. To the point that they should have been Mennonite because of the things they would make their kids wear (long skirts everyday, even in gym) and what they wouldn't let them do (organized sports, sleepovers). Well this girl was known as the smelly girl. I came to think of it as a mix of regular body odor, nasty period vag, and swamp ass. It was causing such a disturbance in class that the teacher had to take her aside and talk to her. Later I learned from my mom that she smelled bad because she was taught that her body down there was never to be touched. Ever. I felt really bad for that girl. She was pulled from the school by her parents and homeschooled the following year.
That poor girl would have been better off in foster care. Those parents should have been charged with abuse. Auful.
Mazza1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does this really need to be said? Jesus how has these been upvoted at all.
nsto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I know a dude who broke up with a girl he was dating for about a month, and was pretty into, because the first time he plowed her doggy style, her butt-smellz wafted into his face. He didn't want to tell her to wash her ass because that would be super embarrassing for both parties, so he just ended it rather than smell her butt when they had sex.
A few years ago, it was revealed to me that a friend of mine didn't know she needed to wash her body. This girl was around 24-25 when somehow showering came up in conversations and she explained what she did. She told them that she's been washing and conditioning her hair and thought that the rinse of that was enough to clean her body. It somehow did not occur to her that she should be washing her body with soap. She was shocked to learn she'd been showering incorrectly for years.
This was not the first time she showed her dumb.
Edit: ok, due to popular opinion, I'd like to rephrase this. The girl I'm talking about did not know people used soap on their bodies during showers and wasn't informed until her 20s. I wasn't the one to label her as being dumb for not knowing but I think it was an accumulation of things that got her labeled as dumb.
Something similar happened to me. My parents taught me how to shower, but never thought to mention that you're supposed to wash your ass. So I probably had swamp ass for my entire childhood.
The kicker is that when I was 12, they realized I wasn't washing my face correctly. They made me shower in front of Mom in a bathing suit so she could reinstruct me, and she still didn't say anything about washing my ass. I think I was in my late teens when I finally figured it out.
This just goes to prove that you can never be certain about what the other person knows, unless you ask in detail.
I joined the Canadian Forces, and part of the training included instructions on how to use an ordinary shovel. This got added to the training course, because people showed up to work, and didn't know how to use it. They apparently grew up in an urban environment, and had never used a shovel.
My first drill sergeant also taught us how to shave.
This is why I take great offense at people, who take offense, when being taught basic things.
I wash it like I'd wash any other part of your body basically. Get some hand scrub action going on, it's okay to touch your butthole in the shower.
treycook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:28 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't use soap on your anus or urethra. They are self-cleaning organs. A water-only bidet method is preferred. Hyper cleaning your privates can lead to anal fissures, anal leakage, urethritis, UTI's, etc. Same reason douching can cause such problems for women.
Have constant swamp-ass? Have brown marks while wiping throughout the day, even if you were completely clean just an hour ago? Stop using soap on your bum hole. Use water and wipe with your hand if you need.
Yeah, like the other person said, you can put some soap on your hand and just scrub like you would anywhere else. Then just wash your hands right after. But make sure you don't get the soap inside the butthole, that would not be fun.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but if the soap is (lathered) on your hand, it'd get in it the hole. Unless you mean the actual cake of soap... that would be bad.
The soap is not getting in the hole in any significant amount unless you shove your soapy finger up inside it. You don't do that, you just wash the external part of the hole.
AnthX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ahh, just basically where you would wipe anyway. Maybe a bit more. I do that a bit yeah.
Yes! I had to think for a little while because I'm not friends with her anymore.
She had an older but reliable car. It wasn't anything special but it was free from her parents. One day, the oil light came on. Not that it should surprise you, but she wasn't very good with car maintenance. So obviously she ignored the light for a while, no matter how much her friends bugged her to get it done. A mutual friend brought her oil to put into her car and left it by her front door because he suspected that not only was she overdue for a change but she must have been low, based on how long she had been ignoring the light. You won't believe what happened next!!
Very soon after the friend left the oil for her, the car stalled and completely seized. And then her parents bought her a brand new car. That made almost every friend who knew about the oil light really annoyed because we knew she had suffered zero consequences from her lack of responsibility AND got a brand new car she didn't have to pay for.
Well to be fair, if she had long hair, there'd be a fair bit of water and surfactant flowing over her skin. Certain crevices might not have been as squeaky clean as one might desire, but unless someone, you know, tasted down there, she'd never know there was a problem.
I didn't know this either. I have no recollection of being taught how to bathe/shower. I would wash my hair in the shower and I thought that was the purpose of showers. Then my grandmother mentioned something about how she washed her hair at the sink, and I said, Well if you do that, why do you still take showers? She thought it was hilarious, and that's when I found out people wash their bodies.
Mollyu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people don't need to use soap daily? I always thought that that was normal. Although then again I'm a sweaty person that spends a lot of time either exercising it outside. (Or both.)
kagaku ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:11:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Some people seem to think that soap has some magical cleaning properties. It's a surfactant, so it helps dislodge fatty substances, and because of that, bacteria don't like it. But you can do most of that through water pressure and some rubbing, and there's no reason to kill most bacteria that live on our skin because they're going to grow back anyway.
It seems that on one hand there are people completely unaware that they smell bad, and on the other hand, there are many clean freaks who think they're going to smell if they don't rub their skin raw with soap.
Soap drys out your skin which can lead to overproduction of oil to compensate, same goes for hair. Unless you are actually grubby or have just gotten an awesome sweat up at the gym then you don't really need to use soap.
In the long run having dry skin from overuse of soap can age your skin too.
You could try it. You don't need soap to wash off sweat. Showering every day with soap is apparently not great for your skin.
Mollyu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people don't need to use soap daily? I always thought that that was normal. Although then again I'm a sweaty person that spends a lot of time either exercising it outside. (Or both.)
I have no issues with someone intentionally doing this, if they know how and what they're doing.
I promise you this girl really and honestly did not know she was supposed to be using soap on her body in the first place. It had not occurred to her. So yes, she may not have smelled or I didn't get that close to her physically , but that doesn't take away from her not doing it out of ignorance, rather than a need to do it.
I get what you're saying, but I'd tweak it. She didn't know that other people use soap every time that they shower. There's no "supposed to".
Karanime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
It's a little strange that people think you're "supposed" to use soap. According to who? Not evolution. Your skin keeps itself clean naturally. Johnson & Johnson, maybe?
It only occurred to me last year that you need to wash your belly button. Ex pointed out to me that my belly button stunk. Like duh, I don't stick my finger in there, even to clean it... Not in at least a decade.
Nothing can immediately ruin the start of my day more than when I take a shower and shortly after realize I forgot to wash my ass. Having a freshly cleaned ass is the best part about taking a shower.
I've never had that problem with the peppermint one.
You know how icy your breath feels when you inhale just after a peppermint lifesaver? That's how your whole body reacts when you get out of the shower after using this.
Do you have one of those removable showerheads that you can put on blast mode? Its like getting a rim job in the shower, and cleans your ass for the rim job later.
So we have 2 showers. One in our master bedroom and one in the bathroom that I use to comb my hair, shave and poop. The one in my bathroom has the removable shower head, but I always shower in the master bathroom. When I do shower in my bathroom, I stick that thing right under my grundle and it's amazing.
Sorry am noob, but how the hell am I supposed to wash my ass? I was never taught this but I assume a rag? A rag seems a bit primitive though because of shared showers they may find your secret rag. I also don't think my shower head is removable. Am I really supposed to lather up my hand with shampoo and scrub it like some sandpaper against wood? Seems rather disgusting to me.
It's simple. While there is water running down it, stick your hand up under there and scrub it out. Or use a cloth and some soap. You're not gonna get anything dirty, you're in the shower.
You ALWAYS gotta follow the showering priorities:
1. Genitalia
2. Ass.
3. Hair
4. Genitalia again
5. Armpits.
6. Rest of body
Seriously, most of the body doesn't ever smell. Have you ever smelled your torso (excluding under-tits for the ladies; they can be treated like armpits) or your forearms and though it smelled bad? Showering is mostly for 1 thru 5 on the above-list.
Oh yeah, the best part of the shower is cleaning your ass and genitals as well as armpits and getting the hair product out of my hair. I seriously can't sleep well at night if I don't shower before bed.
Well, don't just rub the soap on it. Get a rough wash cloth like they use at hospitals (mine are stolen from hospitals) and scrub your ass with deodorant soap or some Summers Eve wash, which is phenomenal stuff for cutting the waxiness of ones junk and butt, and also removing sex stuff. "Stuff" was the least gross, most complete word I could think of.
At my last workplace this topic somehow came up (it was a retail job that had an extremely laid back atmosphere).
As it turns out, this is a thing... lots of people, apparently, don't directly wash their ass. They think that shower water running down their ass is sufficient.
One guy, when pressed further regarding his thoughts on this subject, said that he doesn't wash his ass because it's dirty and he doesn't want to touch it with his hand (because "that would be gross").
So this guy has a part his own body that is so gross that he won't touch it... which is why he won't clean it...
So it's a never ending cycle. Poor guy is stuck in an infinite loop.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:29:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wash my ass with water after I use the bathroom but I still smell like literally shit. And don't tell me I don't have a shower often enough I smell like shit right after I have a shower! How does that even happen?! I also know people who bathe less often than me, and they don't smell like shit. Anyone care to explain this mystery?
Yeah, actually I keep some in my backpack, ha ha. When it comes to my hygiene I'm a little...anal
sarge21 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:02:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you're just unlucky. Go see a doctor
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:11:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am too embarassed to see a doctor, I know they know a lot of things but I can't even talk to my parents about it. So if I build my confidence some day it's definitely the pest solution to talk to a doctor. Thanks for the advice.
sarge21 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:00:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you see a doctor you're going to look back and wonder why you were so embarrassed. Do yourself a favor and skip the waiting.
Google "butt itch" and you will find horror stories from tons of people who were similarly too embarrassed to talk to their doctor. Obviously it's a different issue but reading about what these people put up with for no good reason (in some cases for DECADES) might help change your mind. Doctors have seen it all, that's their job and patient confidentiality exists for a reason.
If there's one thing I've learned about doctors, it's that you shouldn't be embarrassed to talk to them about anything. They've seen and heard worse, I promise. The last time I was embarrassed to talk to a doctor was to ask my obstetrician almost 11 years ago if it was safe to use a vibrator while pregnant. I felt silly about it after.
In case you're wondering, yes it's safe to use a vibrator while pregnant.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:52:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the baby might cum prematurely!
m205 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:28:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dude
jordbus_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:41:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dr Bronner's Pure Castile Liquid Soap in scented baby mild. You need to soap that a hotspot up. Use the Dr Bronner's to wash and get a washcloth system that allows you to change the cloth out daily. More laundry but cleaner parts. Also, do you have hemorrhoids or another medical issue? Is so, some dietary changes or medicine mag help.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't grab a hold of the product you linked since I don't live in the USA, and no I don't have a medical condition. At least, I am not diagnosed with one up until now. Thanks for the advice.
The baby mild is totally...mild. No burning, no additives. Just Castile soap. It is a-ok for babies! Other kinda are kind of strong - peppermint, rose and lavender can burn. (I'm not suggesting you try this - please god don't - but I bet you could drink small portions of the baby mild. I wouldn't burn, but I'm sure it would mess you up some other way!)
I'll go against the flow here, and suggest that it is your washing technique. You should still see a doctor, though
I noticed a problem for me, when I found that I still lightly stunk after a shower.
I started washing it 3-4 times in 1 showering. The same goes for my face, ears, and hair. My legs get 2 washes, and my feet get 1 or 2. I have very oily skin.
Here are some instructions on how to get literally squeaky clean.
Rinse your hair.
Lightly wash your hair and face and ears; just enough to get the dust out. Don't rub too hard. You don't want to rub the filth into your skin. Rinse
Lightly wash your genitals and bum. You don't want to rub the filth into the skin. Rinse.
Wash your hair and face and ears with more soap. If you are using bar soap, then try to get a lather going by rubbing for a few moments. Rinse.
Wash your genitals and bum in the same way as step 4. Rinse.
Wash your hair and face and ears, heavily. You want to add a lot of soap, but not waste it. You want to get a good lather. You should be able to move your fingers through your hair and over your skin easily before you rinse. You want to rub that soap in, and maybe even scratch your skin to push it in as far as possible. Rinse thoroughly, but scratching and rubbing the skin aggressively. Once you have rinsed it all off, you should have a slightly difficult time running your fingers through, in the same way that you would have difficulty running your fingers over plastic cling wrap.
Wash your crotch and bum in the same manner as step 6. Rinse in the same manner.
Washing your body is not a good time to save time. Spend 30-60 minutes. Keep the room warm, and turn off the water, when not in use.
You can tell how clean you are by how squeaky your skin is, and how easy it is to run your fingers through your hair. Greasy hair is lubricated, but it also slows you down. You can also tell by how clean your towel is. Is it brown after a week?
Also, I find that clean skin feels more sensitive from the skin's perspective in the sense that it feels more natural, but filthy skin feels more sensitive from the skin's perspective in the sense that it feels like I'm rubbing something in.
Also, I use certain parts of my clean underwear to dry my genitals and bum. I use parts of the underwear that will dry quickly. I use the upper part of socks to dry my feet. I use these items, so that as I use them the normal way, I end up bringing in fresh cloth to dry myself. It keeps things moving, instead of using a stagnant towel.
Wait... Drying with Underwear and Socks? Towel is brown after a week??
THERE'S your problem! If you have oily skin, or find you lightly stink often, wear clothes once before washing them. And a towel might be good for 2 showers between it being washed, but if you're discolouring it, I'd wash it after every use.
I used to have a friend with an odour problem, we found nothing would work until we went into his bedroom & saw his bed sheets. It was only slightly discoloured and he thought nothing wrong of it, but he couldn't perceive the stink coming from his sheets and pillow that he was putting back on himself every night.
TL:DR - If there's any fabric that touched your body for extended periods, wash the fabric, or it will stinkify you.
THIS. Take a detachable, multiple-mode shower head and direct the fucking flow into your ass. I don't care if you're "not gay" or think you shouldn't clean a place where literal shit leaves your body, do it. When I realised this I smelled a lot better and people actually approached me instead of avoiding me.
I got all paranoid when I saw this mentioned on Reddit so I started doing it. I mean, I soap my buttocks and a bit inside my crack when I shower but I had never thought you were supposed to take soap and literally wash your anus. Have I stunk like ass my entire life?
So I did that for a while, and after a month I was having a terrible time with my asshole. It itched all the time, it was painful to wipe, and I started seeing blood on the TP. Then one day I had a horrific, sharp pain there while sitting down on the toilet.
Long story short, the soap was drying out the skin around my asshole, and after awhile it got so dry the skin itself split open and I had a big crack in the skin radiating from the center of my anus outward, about an inch long. It's called an "anal fissure," look it up on Google image search.
Not googling that, but keep in mind that rinsing properly is just as important as soaping and scrubbing. Damn amateurs. Also, you win the appropriate username award.
Well, I'm not a total dummy, I did rinse. But I still dispute that literally washing your anus with soap is something a person needs to do. Hot water's more than enough to remove any "debris" from there. And it's not like you're not going to go for days without taking a crap, it's going to get dirty again anyway.
Shanack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soap may not help in all cases of swamp-ass. A bit of shampoo goes a long way if you are a bit hairy. Failing that, 1 part baking soda, 1 part water, about two joints of your index fingers worth. Apply directly before shower and rinse it out at the end (and wipe once out of the shower). Your grundle will smell great for days.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If ya must
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently went down on a girl who apparently does not clean herself downstairs. At one point I nearly threw up on her, I actually gagged. I can't imagine how you could let your body get to that point. It was expected that we were going to hook up that night, so it's not like she was caught off guard.
I can't believe how common it's here in Europe for people to walk around with shit in their asses.
They only use dry paper and that's it... And they dare call me a weirdo for washing my ass with water.
Apparently it's disgusting to wash my ass with my hand then wash my hands with soap, but not disgusting to have shit around your asshole and go about your day like that.
This is how addictions get started. You begin with sniffing tiny bit of rotting teeth morsels, then you start doing whole lines of them. Pretty soon, you're a hobo on the streets with the best teeth in town.
EDIT: Honestly I don't think this gold should be mine, the parent comment inspired mine. swaggatracin is the real MVP here, not me. Nevertheless thank you.
You're joking obviously but homeless people love floss. Even if they don't give a shit about dental hygiene it makes fantastic sewing thread.
Source: am homeless, sew all my clothes with floss and am very disappointed those care packages old ladies give us always include toothbrushes and baby wipes but never any damn floss.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I wonder how I could be addicted to Reddit ... and then someone says something so weird and disturbing and hilarious like this. Thanks for feeding the addiction.
You must be talking about Pearly Joe! He hangs out around 54th Street. Brightest grin this side of the Mississippi. He does a mean Charleston also.
frikk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a filling get royally screwed up by the dentist when it was put in. It basically didnt set properly, so much so that I could "floss down" but not "floss up" without the floss getting caught and threatening to rip out the filling. I had to get special "glide" floss so that I could "floss down" and then "pull" the floss out from the side, without it fraying. I could pull entire pearls of food out, and it was immensely gratifying. I kept thinking that if flossing was this productive every time, it could get addicting!
As it turned out, I ended put off getting it fixed for 6 months, and it created the most awesome flossing habit. If I went 12 hours without flossing, I could store about 3 grains of rice worth of food between my two molars. I was a flossing machine. Still am (it's been fixed for about 2 months now).
When I finally got it fixed I told the dentist she should do that all the time so that people are forced to get into the habit. I don't think she found the anecdote as enlightening as I did.
Yes, speaking of, do you know what keeps me flossing? When my dad told me that yes, he flosses, and I quote "when the line between my teeth disappears". When I'm done holding back a dry-heave thinking of that, I'm sure to keep up on daily flossing.
[deleted] ยท 580 points ยท Posted at 17:49:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, people that don't floss have no idea of the shit in between their teeth. I can just imagine someone who hasn't flossed in years flossing for the first time and seeing the crap on the string and smelling how bad it is. Disgusting.
cyrusm ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 20:46:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wife is a dental hygienist. She can confirm. People who don't floss bleed like stuck pigs when she's cleaning their teeth, and they don't even notice.
She also has people who say "oh, my gums just bleed" like it's nothing to worry about. If you washed your hands and they started bleeding, you'd probably take notice! If you floss and brush daily, your gums won't bleed a drop.
It hurts because the food particles were embedded deep between your teeth and your gums healed around it and became attached. When you remove the food particles you are ripping them from your gums so you bleed. Yes it is painful but in the long run it is good for you. Would you rather have disgusting old food on your gums? Eventually you won't bleed much if at all. But the first week or two will be sore every time you do it.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:57:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should not just jam it down you have to slide the floss back and forth while working it down at the same time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:44 on January 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, people think just jamming a piece of string between your teeth is flossing?
I floss and brush twice a day (first thing in the morning, last thing before bed) and my gums bleed almost constantly. I wake up in the morning and the first thing I have to do, every morning, is rinse the blood out.
I don't suppose your wife has any tips/ideas that could maybe help me?
Do you breathe through your mouth when you sleep? My dentist told me that can be one reason why healthy gums can keep bleeding. (It's a problem for me too)
Do you brush your gums as well as your teeth? And have you tried using a softer toothbrush?
Take a multivitamin every day for a few months and see if it clears up. You might have a vitamin deficiency. Not talking crazy supplements here, just pick up a bottle of vitamins at the supermarket.
Someone I know commented that they always had bleeding gums. They started brushing harder thinking they weren't doing enough. Turns out they had periodontitis and it wasn't picked up for ages. Now they have erosion in their mouth and their gums are pushed back from overbrushing. Teeth need to be replace but their isn't enough of a foundation in their jaw without major surgery.
If you're worried talk to your dentist - periodontitis can be seen on the xray. Don't ignore issues in your mouth
StdSam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just keep at it, eventually your gums will be stronger and healthier and the bleeding will stop.
IanJL1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:39:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really scared that if I run a piece of dental floss on the gums between my teeth they will slice open, like getting a papercut on the skin between my fingers. Is this fear rational?
Edit: Like in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71-5CM339o
No its not rational, its string, not some sick razor wire assassin stuff
IanJL1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it looks like wire
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cyrusm ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:12:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Actually, the real truth behind the matter is that we eat an inverse metric shitload more sugar than our ancestors did, which leads to crazy bacteria buildup and requires more rigorous dental hygiene. If you eat a diet of nothing more than non-processed meat and vegetables, you'll have a healthier mouth. Fun anecdote: My wife actually had a vegan patient recently who had never brushed her teeth, and only chewed on sticks to keep them clean. Apparently it was the healthiest, cleanest, mouth she had ever seen in her career.
Azryhael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Flossing goes between your teeth, but scaling covers the other surfaces. Both are important.
cyrusm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you floss regularly, you shouldn't have to go in for a scaling every year before too long. What a scaling is is when you have pockets so deep that they have to numb you up to get down to shovel all of the crap out. This is to get rid of calculus, which is the hard crap that forms from the stuff flossing and brushing gets rid of.
derefr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you floss and brush daily, your gums won't bleed a drop.
I still bleed a ton. Then again, I take a few drugs that can cause that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a poem about being
EATEN
My one desire, my only wish is to be-
EATEN...
The longer I live the more I'm dying to feel the pain
EATEN...
I would do anything to be-
EATEN...
My one desire, my only wish is to be-
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[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:23:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:44:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If there's blood it means you have awful plaque build up and have gingivitis and need to floss more.
[deleted] ยท 553 points ยท Posted at 18:52:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dental hygienist here. People like that get what's known as calculus or tartar build up. All that crap between their teeth eventually hardens into a stone which can only be removed by dental instruments. If that calculus sits there long enough it starts to eat away at their gums, periodontal ligaments and bone causing tooth loss.
SemSevFor ยท 1284 points ยท Posted at 19:14:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
calculus
Guys the advanced math is fighting back. The derivatives are attacking our gums!!!
L'Hopitals rule is a way for determining the limit of a function where the numerator and denominator both approach 0, by taking the limits of the derivatives of the numerator and denominator. (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LHospitalsRule.html)
You won't need that until the horror that is BC and limits.
And the stones pun is going back to the dental meaning for calculus, which can also be called a stone.
You know, this kind of joke would be a lot funnier if it was a misspelling. Unfortunately, calculus relating to dentistry is spelled the same way as mathematical calculus.
And it leads to caries. Very confusing to laypeople.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:43:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dear dental hygienist,
My teeth are close together and it involves a lot of force to get the floss between my teeth and then it gets "stuck" when I try to pull it back out and I panic really bad because I'm terrified of pulling out my teeth or something.
My teeth are the same way. Seriously. Glide changed my life.
Nabber86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. My teeth are so close that even Glide floss gets stuck sometimes, but it is the only thing that works.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:15:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try placing the floss at the space and then gently sawing it back and forth as you move the floss down in between the teeth and using the same action to bring it back out. You should never force the floss straight down in between the teeth as you can traumatized the gums (this is why we don't recommend those little disposable floss sticks). Once you've gently sawed the floss down in between, wrap it around the tooth and continue the sawing motion downwards until you get the floss below the gum line. Then wrap it around the adjacent tooth and do the same thing. This video helps give a better visual.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:17:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah so that part at like 1:17 where she just pulls it out? That doesn't happen for me. I go to pull it out and it just gets stuck at the end of my teeth and I can't get it out and start to pull and panic.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what soft plaque turns into when you don't brush it off and leave it to sit there. It hardens into what's called calculus or tartar. Once it gets to this point it can only be removed by dental instruments. Everyone gets some degree of calculus build up which is why it is necessary to get regular cleanings at your dentist. This person's case is quite serious though.
18scsc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew that story before I even clicked it. I always use that when people say they hate dentists
My bf just went to the dentist for the first time since he was a kid(after much badgering). He said the hygienist was sucking chunks of that shit off his tongue after she scraped it off. Blegh. Also his breath is 100% better and his teeth are whiter. He's flossing after every meal now like a champ and his gums are already growing back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Help soothe my mind. I haven't been to the dentists in three or four years (ironically because I thought I'd always been so clever at keeping my teeth clean and healthy that I wouldn't need regular checkups), and I just recently started noticing this shit building up on the back of my lower teeth. It hasn't completely covered my teeth, but it's definitely starting to fill up the cracks. Am I screwed? Did your bfs gums, bones and teeth recover completely?
Shit I just saw this, my bad. He's actually doing great and his case was moderate to severe. You can already see his gums have begun repairing themselves.
Is that what they're checking for when they start scraping around there?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:37:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they're scraping it means they found it and are scraping it off. Long and painful dental appointments can be averted by flossing. They look at your teeth, see no buildup, maybe give you a fluoride rinse or take an x-ray and you're done.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:48:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is what they are scraping off, yes. It's common for most people to have some calculus build up which is why it's good to visit the dentist for regular visits to have it removed.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:05:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Build up on lingual retainers is super common. I have one myself and no matter how much I try to brush or floss I always have something there when I go for a cleaning. Don't beat yourself up about it just make sure to keep up with regular visits to the dentists to have that area cleaned.
I also have a bottom bar and try to floss there as much as I can. They scrape a little more back there than they do on my other teeth, but I've noticed the more effort I put into cleaning that area, the less they scrape. It's just really hard and annoying to floss there.
Get an electric toothbrush. I'm in the same situation and it changed my life. Don't have to worry about flossing that area because it stays very clean now for the most part. I go for a dental cleaning every 4 months too, so that helps a lot too.
twersx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally, but dentists can see signs of tartar without having to scrape. When I had tartar removed it was basically with a thin metal rod, bent slightly at the end and it was just rough scraping/picking to get it off.
Moffee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:16:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a way to get rid of tartar other than going in for a cleanup?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:20:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No there aren't any tools available to the general public that remove tartar. You need to use hand scalers or an ultrasonic scaler.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:11:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes actually they are very good. We tend to recommend them to people with limited dexterity who can't floss normally or people who just hate regular flossing. The important thing about flossing is not only removing the stuff stuck between your gums but also stimulating the gums which promotes blood flow and keeps the gums healthy.
thamag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you recommend for people with braces?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush diligently and use a floss threader to floss your teeth. If you have lingual retainers (those bars they glue to the back of your teeth after you're finished with braces) use a proxy brush to clean between teeth and stimulate the gums in that area. Ask your dentist or orthodontist for these things if they haven't already provided them. They'll give you free samples.
thamag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I only have the lingual retainers, I wonder when I'm supposed to have them taken off since I just turned 19 and got my braces off 5+ years ago, since that would obviously make it all a lot easier
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We actually recommend you never take them off as your teeth continue to shift as you age and will go crooked again. I had my braces taken off at 17 and I'm 30 now and still have my lingual retainers. You just have to make sure to brush and floss those areas thoroughly as they're a common spot for plaque and calculus build up.
thamag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had my lingual retainer in for some 10 years now. I've thought about asking to have it removed as I'm a little worried about my gums receding on the teeth with it. Buuut my husband never had one put in and now his teeth are all wonky again and he gets worse buildup because of the teeth overlapping weird.
Fwiw when mine broke for the 15th time the dentist I went to said he really doesn't like them since they breed tooth decay and that if I wear my retainer each night I should be fine. It's a pretty nice feeling having the back of your teeth slick after 5 years.
thamag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually dont have a night retainer, maybe i should
Also, gum recession. Once your gums recede, they don't grow back. I can attest to this.
Hornborg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that, but bacteria associated with gingivitis and parodontitis have been found to be a causing factor in many heart conditions and strokes. Shit gets to your blood stream from your mouth and make their way to the heart or to the brain, causing complications. They can also build up growths over joint prosthesis, leading to some pretty nasty infections. Floss, yo.
Actual question: is it still that bad if you brush your teeth two or three times a day but never floss?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes because your tooth brush doesn't remove the stuff that gets stuck between the teeth and under the gums. I'll admit that I'm not the best when it comes to flossing but the way I got into the habit is by starting slow and doing it once a week, even that will make a difference. Then you just build up to doing it daily from there. A good way to get into the habit is to leave floss in an area that you frequently spend time in like on your coffee table so when you watch tv you can sit there and floss. Or at your desk at work or near your personal computer.
Yep, and when you floss if you can taste an acidic, metallic taste coming from your gums, that's the acid that literally dissolves your bone. You might need a deep cleaning where the dentist scrapes deep between the gums and teeth to remove tartar.
BNLboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently got a sonicare toothbrush for Christmas. I really wanted one and my teeth feel so god damn clean every time I use it. Now the rest of my mouth doesn't feel as clean. I used to brush my gums all the way up and down my mouth and under my tongue and it felt great. The vibrations of the toothbrush feel way to weird to do that and the instructional videos on youtube don't mention the rest of my mouth. Now I just scrape my tongue, floss (like 3 times a week, not daily), and brush my teeth. The really minty fresh taste and feeling just isn't there anymore.
So am I doing it wrong or am I just normal for the first time ever? Also I'm noticing less tonsil stones but that could also be because I'm using a humidifier when I sleep now.
Please give me free advice and criticism on the internet
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Brushing your gums is actually not a good idea because that can cause gum recession and traumatize the tissues. Flossing is the best thing to do for your gums. Brushing the inner cheeks is good though. Scraping the tongue is also great for preventing bad breath.
With your professional background, how healthy and comparable are products like Waterpik and other water flossers to regular string floss? Asking for a friend of course.
Nayr39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that might explain my deteriorating gums from the front of my bottom row of teeth(so now you can see teeth where gum usually is below your visible teeth). Probably doesn't help that I never floss, brush my teeth once a week and haven't gone to a dentist in 4 or 5 years.
I hope you see this, because I'd appreciate some clarification:
I went for years without flossing regularly. I just hate the feeling and I hate making my gums bleed. Several months ago I bought a Waterpik Aquarius, and it's changed my life, I floss with it every day.
Is water flossing pointless? is it truly a replacement for old-fashioned string?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're gums were bleeding because you weren't flossing regularly in the first place. Aside from cleaning debris, flossing helps promote blood flow in the gums keeping them healthy. When you aren't stimulating the gums the blood stagnates around the gum line causing the red puffy appearance that we call gingivitis. When you go to floss after not flossing for a long time that blood sitting there gets released. Aside from all that waterpiks are really great and we tend to recommend them to people who either aren't able to floss because of limited dexterity or just hate flossing the traditional way. The water works to stimulate the gums the same way flossing does.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's inevitable. Some people brush and floss like crazy but we always find something that was missed which is why it's recommended that you go for regular cleanings.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm! I have to get surgery on my mouth because I was lazy and didn't floss and now one of my teeth might fall out!! Don't be me :'(
Can confirm. Thought I chipped a tooth eating a meal, felt a piece missing off my tooth. Turns out it was a piece of this calculus that chipped away. It built up over so many years that it felt like a part of my teeth. Dental assistant had to pull out the big guns to blast the rest of the crap away and expose my teeth.
Right now, try tonguing your rows of teeth. Try to find spaces in between your teeth especially the bottom row. Chances are some of you notice there's not as much space between you teeth as you remember. Please go see a dentist. Your 60 y/o gums will thank you.
Can you tell me why when I floss it doesn't bleed, but every time I go for a cleaning it's like the elevator scene from the Shining? I'm 98% sure I'm flossing as deep as it can go.
Didn't even realize that was my Cake Day! Haha! Thanks!
eksyneet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:43:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i flossed for the first time in 22 years a few months ago (don't judge, in my country flossing isn't even a thing, i've never even heard about it, not even from a dentist, before i started interacting with Americans online) and it really wasn't that bad? it definitely didn't smell.
superkp ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:46:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose it could be that you are very used to it, or that americans/westerners have such a calorie-rich diet that even our oral bacteria are eating better.
No, I think that it's because of the brushing technique.
Whenever I start flossing after an extended pause, the foul smells only come from a certain location [right upper side], but the other locations aren't too bad, relatively speaking. I even asked a dental hygienist [or was it a dentist?] about it. The person had no clue.
1 day, it dawned on me that I was not brushing well. I started brushing up and down on the side teeth, and sure enough, I could smell it even while the brush was still in my mouth.
It isn't just a casual up and down motion. Because my current bristles are aligned in a shape, it actually is important to move the brush slowly forward and slowly backward, while I brush up and down. This is true for the inside of the side, too.
I'm surprised that nobody seems to be talking about this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because everything hardened and got scraped off by the hygenist in a cleaning last time you went to the dentist
eksyneet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i've never gotten a teeth cleaning at the dentist. it's just not something dentists here routinely do.
Is that why we don't get told about flossing in the UK if our NHS covers the cleaning that flossing would prevent the need for? We have the most healthy teeth in the world so we must be doing something right.
It makes sense that flossing helps, but it also makes sense that there must be another influencing factor. Before people put effort into teeth cleaning, a lot of them still managed to keep their teeth. People need to remember that flossing is a very modern invention.
My dad was in the navy (Vietnam era) and one of the dentists in there was so mad at his patient for not maintaining his teeth that he got a piece of bread and put all the gunk from flossing on it. Then he made the guy eat the bread. Yuck
As a person who used to hardly ever floss their teeth, it was pretty painful the first few times and I actually bled in between my gums. Not fun. But that's only if you don't floss regularly
Not a dentist, but I've heard that flossing still helps because it disrupts any bacteria and stimulates the gums. So I'd guess it would probably still be beneficial?
folderol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't really take it seriously until I had braces on. I started using brush picks all the time. Now I swear I can't eat without a pick because it drives me nuts having all that shit stuck in my mouth. Never even noticed before.
No shit in between my teeth for bacteria to feed on.
Jordanjm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh so I never really flossed that often until like a month ago when I Google how to do it properly and I gave it a proper try. I was shocked and disgusted and I do it probably 2 or 3 times a day now. My breath is better and my teeth feel better.
I completely agree and try to floss regularly, but damn if it aint a bitch to try to floss on your bottom teeth when you have a permanent retainer on them :/ I feel like my top teeth are much healthier than the bottoms :(
bcgrm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use a product called superfloss. Walmart sells it (in Canada at least). It is floss with a stiff end that you can stick between your teeth, between the wire and your gums.
I haven't tried that particular brand but will look into it. The problem I have found with similar products is that the wire across the retainer on the back of the teeth is so low, and my teeth are so close together, it feels impossible to get something in there. My teeth are little :(
Mine used to be really tight at the top, but after a few weeks it opened up and is now really easy to get the floss through. I think this due in part to my gums being healthier and no longer inflamed.
Waterpik. They are amazing and clean your teeth better than brushing and flossing, or at least feels that way. Combine those with the waterpik and your teeth will feel professionally cleaned on the daily. I effectively stopped my periodontal disease and reduced all of my 5-6mm pockets to 3 and under.
As in a permanent retainer? Get interdental floss brushes, or you can shell out for a Sonicare Airfloss (On that note, holy hell every person ever needs to also upgrade to a Sonicare toothbrush. You've never experienced pleasure until you clean your teeth with one).
superkp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yup. just got an off-brand electric toothbrush, and I thought only dentists could make my teeth feel like that.
Also, my wife has a permanent retainer - she also uses those little floss-on-a-stick things. She says it works well.
Ew. Seriously, shell out the money for a Sonicare (even the cheaper ones will do). They're incomparable to other electric toothbrushes.
I tried the floss on a stick things, I can't seem to use them with my retainer. I can kinda use the pointy bit but it doesn't really work.
superkp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:30:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, the one i'm using isn't cheap - just not sonicare. It's philips, or samsung, or something. High quality, just not the original entrepreneurs in the space.
Also it's not floss held taut by a stick - it's floss mounted on the end of a really thin toothpick, so you can push it through and then move it back and forth/up and down , and then finish pulling it all the way through.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use an interdental brush instead, not floss on a stick. I have a wire and it works perfectly for getting the teeth there clean.
I use a product called superfloss. Walmart sells it (in Canada at least). It is floss with a stiff end that you can stick between your teeth, between the wire and your gums.
haydiddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:09:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's only awful if you've neglected your teeth for years. If you can't remember the last time you flossed, can't remember the last time you went to the dentist, and/or your gums bleed often, there's a very good chance your breath is kicking out some shit smell.
Like, if it was me, how can you put a price on your breath not smelling like shit? GET TO THE DENTIST!
I have issues as I smell these shit breathed people on the tube. No excuses. You can afford all the shit that rots your teeth so you can afford to look after your teeth too.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:43:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was in a showerthoughts post a while ago, saying how someone has probably masterbated more times than flossing, a joke went round saying people should masterbate after flossing to keep a 1:1 ratio
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be at the top... I also rinse my mouth with hydrogen peroxide (diluted of course). I've found this to be the best solution to having good breath.
Do you think using mouthwash is an acceptable alternative?
grace_c ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:07:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dental student here. In a word, no.
Halitosis results from the products created by bacteria (usually between the teeth), namely acid and other shit. This is best removed by physically scraping it out.
Mouthwash doesn't remove the bacteria (aka plaque), it just washes over it due to how it attaches to your teeth. It'll temporarily make your mouth smell nice, until you swallow a few times or drink something.
TL;DR floss your damn teeth.
raitono ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is mouth wash good for anything?
grace_c ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a good additional method, but it shouldn't substitute flossing. Current literature says that adequate brushing and flossing means that mouthwash isn't necessary for good oral hygiene, but it doesn't hurt to add it to your routine either
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:29:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
After you smoke weed.
Edit: you know its true. Listerine Breath Strips? No nutritional value, less effort than chewing gum, and way too strong just to get fresh breath. Thst shit was made for stoners
I read somewhere that 80% of bad breath comes from your tongue. T/F?
grace_c ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:18:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A dirty tongue certainly does contribute, but not 80%. Maybe 40-50%? I use a tongue scraper for that, it's inexpensive and very helpful to reduce bad breath!
AnthX ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can that dental hygenist respond again? Tongue scraper sounds like a scam.
darkmana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um...
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygienist? Do you mean dental student? If so, I am that OP, the same person who advocated a tongue scraper. Mine was $5 AUD from the pharmacy and holy crap the amount of white gunk I scraped off my tongue was ridiculous.
AnthX ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:16:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$5 isn't too bad if it works and you say it does. What about the ones on the tooth brushes? Do they work or are they just a ploy "feature"?
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well personally, if I am without a tongue scraper, I'll just use the normal side of my toothbrush. It's not as effective as a tongue scraper, but probably better than those tiny rubber points.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, the ones on the back of the brush are a gimmick, but the proper ones work. Good to know.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I can't get my other hand in my mouth. And my cheeks are in the way.
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try a floss wand. Not as effective as the dexterity from using your hands and free floss, but better than nothing.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I should. This thread inspired me to go buy new tooth brushes too. What's the difference between an old toothbrush and a new but soft one?
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Depending on the number of teeth you have, you should change your toothbrush (or toothbrush head on a power toothbrush) every 1-3 months.
Unless you have sensitive teeth, don't buy a soft toothbrush. They're a marketing strategy to make you buy it, but are less effective at cleaning your teeth properly.
If it's within your price range, buy an oscillating-rotating power toothbrush. The low end ones are around $30 AUD and (in Australia) are available in some supermarkets. Studies show they're more effective at cleaning in between the teeth than manual toothbrushes, so they'll save you money in the long run if they prevent or delay extensive dental work.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What happens to the brush when it gets old? It frays and isn't as firm? (Like the soft brushes you mention.)
I saw some in Coles for around $30 to $40 yep! (Even a brand name too.) (And it's easier right, since you just move it around, don't have to go back and forth manually?)
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct, it loses its structural integrity and thus isn't as effective at removing the plaque.
I would say that yes it is easier, but watch a few YouTube videos about proper brushing technique to maximise the effect
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. Ta
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:13:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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carputt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then your problem can't be solved by a dentist. See an ENT and get your tonsils out.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:21:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or use an interdental brush (if you can get it between your teeth). Way better than flossing imo.
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how much space there is between your teeth. Everyone's regime will be unique, so yes, it's really good to have options!
Unfortunately no. Another big part of flossing is rupturing food pockets that develop in your gums. They house a ton of bad breath causing bacteria.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:33:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats what actually got me to start flossing. I was always told it was to remove the food from between your teeth. Never really thought there was any food getting stuck there. When someone told me it was to disrupt the bacteria colonies that form between your teeth I started flossing immediately.
superkp ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:51:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exactly why I started.
It's not to take the bacteria out, otherwise why bother? those little shits are just going to multiply overnight, aren't they?
It's actually to remove the shield (aka biofilm) that the little shits have set up to protect themselves.
It helps to think of them as an alien species and you are destroying their force field to expose them to your more effective weapons.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of mouthwash (You still should floss), use a diluted mix of hydrogen peroxide. Floss, brush teeth, rinse with hydrogen peroxide.
u38cg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit has a real idea in its hive mind that flossing is made up and stupid.
I still can't get an answer for why hygienists and dentists do it, every one.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dentist recommended against it and suggested that I just use an interdental brush since that cleans way better. Not an option if there's no small gap between your teeth, but if there is then it removes way more than just flossing.
I was always told the mouth smell was from the tongue, so we need to brush the tongue.
Unless people have been lying to me then why do I need to floss if I'm thoroughly brushing my teeth and tongue?
girkabob ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:38:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's both. Bacteria builds up on both and it stinks in both places. In addition, the bacteria on your teeth will eventually start eroding your enamel and gums.
Because plaque will build up between your teeth, especially deep in the gumline. Mouthwash and brushing helps, but it's not going to do much to disrupt the bacterial film between your teeth. If you have pockets of bacteria between your teeth, it's going to have an impact on your whole mouth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I anyways wondered if there's really a difference between flossing and just using the pics
I like to balance a little bit of mouthwash in my mouth WHILE I floss and really get the mouthwash in there. Mouth feels so clean, really has minimized any bleeding, and I want to think cuts down any bad breath. Also, BRUSH YOUR TONGUE!!!
Smelling my used floss was what got me to finally start flossing regularly. It was horrifying. I still don't do it every single day but I do it a few times a week and it no longer hurts/bleeds when they do it at the dentist, so that's an added bonus!
mopizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have some of those plastic floss "picks" in my car and do it while driving. I know that they aren't as effective as regular floss, but its either use those or don't floss at all.
Can conifrm. I just started wearing Invisalign to straighten a few of my teeth and after each meal I have to brush and floss. Most people don't realize all of the gunk, food, and buildup that chills in your teeth after each meal. It's disgusting...
Only two more months of Invisalign and I will still floss after each meal.
Suivoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is good advice. But dont use a push pin... metal isnt good on your teeth.
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have those little floss picks I use at my desk. No one ever notices and I do it everyday after lunch.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I said this a sub earlier this week but-- for the love of god-- take care of your teeth. Once your mouth starts to go, so goes the rest of your body (ever meet anybody with fucked up gums/teeth that was a model of otherwise perfect health?). Plus it only takes one root canal to figure out that major oral surgery is something you really want to avoid at all costs.
I saw someone suggest that rinsing with warm salt water in the morning and at night is really good for oral health too.
In addition, try that coconut oil mouth rinse, tablespoon of coco oil swisher around your mouth for 20 mins a day, it is profound how much this improves dental health, and reduces halitosis.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i used to face a wall and would floss at my desk when my desk neighbor wasn't there, but only if there was something stuck in there (popcorn or something).. spot flossing, with a stick, not a full floss session.. I'm lazy.
But now I face the whole office. So, I floss in a stall in the bathroom.
TIL: Never reddit at lunch. A seemingly light topic just made me lose my appetite.
kghyr8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a light scrape between the teeth with a push pin gets the same effect.
Not quite. A push pin can not get in between the contacts of your teeth like the floss does. Better to have some floss picks at your desk. More effective and more socially acceptable.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to start flossing but I legitimately need help. Like, I try to do it and just end up looking like an idiot with floss around his finger trying to fit his hand into his mouth
Bad breath prevention is not the only reason why flossing is important, in fact it's just one benefit. Heck, lots of breath stank is coming from that white carpet towards the back of your tongue (scrape or brush it daily).
If you don't floss, that white gunk (bacterial colony) builds up and begins to erode the enamel due to acid created. After a while, that gunk hardens and becomes calculus (tartar) and can only be removed by a dentist by which point damage has been done and your teeth will appear pockmarked and separated.
leetee91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$50 crest whitening packs (sold literally everywhere) do wonders and take less than 2 weeks.
txfoodie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful what you scrape your teeth with. Whether you realize it or not, Staph (that causes infection) is everywhere and it just needs an entrance into the bloodstream. My aunt nearly died when she picked her teeth with a paperclip and got a little too close to the gums causing her to bleed a tad, but enough for Staph to walk right in... Maybe stick to floss
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
brush the tongue
A lot of people don't realize the tongue is like a sponge and don't brush it appropriately. Brushing one's tongue with a toothbrush is really not the way to go. There are tongue scrapers that are better suited for the task.
So many of my coworkers come into work in the mornings, and when they talk, I see a black stain on their tongue. It looks as if they just rimjobbed someone with an unclean bum. It's fucking disgusting to see, and once it's noticed, it's really hard to unsee it.
Hootbag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Daily flosser here. You can hear the hygienist's panties drop when she checks my gums. There's nothing that turns them on more than pocket depths of 1 to 3 mm.
when I brush my tongue or use mouthwash I get this layer of stuff on my tongue that doesn't seem to go away. I use a tongue scraper but it doesn't get rid of it very much, and the scraper also makes me gag.
what do?
Flossing sucks ass, learn to use a fucking toothbrush if you can get white shit out between your teeth after brushing. They have tiny hairs for a reason.
I really feel like electric tooth brushes are detrimental to teeth health because they can barely reach anything, feel like shit and neglect a lot of thinks like inbetween teeth.
Personally dont like flossing nor can i do it properly because my teeth are too tightly next to each other, giving me my stunning perfect smile, and its held in place by a permanent dental thingy (invisible unless you put your head in my face) which has to stay there forever for some reason.
If you don't dig on flossing, get a Waterpik. There's always a debate somewhere on how it's either worse/same/or better than flossing, but overall the opinion seems to be that it's about the same, and it's certainly better than doing nothing.
cyrusm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't floss at your desk. That's grosser than clipping your nails.
I think it was Mitch Headburg that said "The only thing harder than quitting smoking is starting to floss". I do regularly now and my mouth feels fucking nasty if I skip it, even directly after brushing. It doesn't hurt after the first few days if you do it regularly and no blood, fools. People that use that excuse need to understand that's like saying they don't brush their hair because it's too tangled. That only flies if your end goal is dreadlocks or a solid mass of tartar.
macsb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It can also become this nasty disease infested cesspool of death, decay, and despair.
Source: Have a coworker who clearly hasn't flossed since the Mesozoic era. The result is a giant build up of tarter and decay between each tooth, creating a bridge of nastiness along the gum line.
Also why is everyone telling me to beat off after flossing?
They probably assumed you were male, perhaps they should have told you to flick the bean or whatever the kids are calling it these days.
you should masturbate and floss though because when askreddit asks what should you do more often, those are the top 2 answers. I presume there is a study saying it's healthy to frequently masturbate (or at least have sex or masturbate, but this is reddit and noone gets laid).
spect3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pro tip! Keep a bag of flosser sticks in your car! And floss while you drive :D
It wasn't until Steve-O did an AMA and that got me to floss more (out of all people) when he quoted Knoxville on his bad breath. โSaying Steve-O has bad breath is like saying Weeman is short.โ
red-bot ยท 5323 points ยท Posted at 14:27:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Put your damn shoulders back, have a confident walk, and don't stare at the ground all the time as you walk. I've always been told these things by my parents and others.. I never really noticed how stupid it looks until I saw some people walking around my college campus with their head at a 90ยบ angle to the ground while walking.
I never noticed how bad my shoulders were. I saw a video of me walking recently and I looked like a god damn Neanderthal. I now make a point to walk with my shoulders in the proper position. Not only did I notice my back start to feel better, but the confidence that you project with correct posture is amazing.
Feels off at first but you get used it it. Just need to retrain your body.
Bo_Bo ยท 5135 points ยท Posted at 17:24:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Just imagine your nipples are headlights and you're trying to light up the road in front of you.
Edit: Thank you for the gold, most kind and generous stranger!
Nardo318 ยท 4047 points ยท Posted at 17:38:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Shine on you crazy nipple
Edit: damn you people are easily entertained
More edit: thank you for the gold. I feel strangely appreciated and can now sleep well tonight.
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caveat to that is the realization that when our actions truly do hurt other people or create risks, we have to take complete responsibility for it. Don't whine and use excuses like 'all men cheat' or 'corporations deserve to be stolen from' to justify your own bad habits.
Realize that actions have consequences.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start lifting. And then sit back and let the girls start running to you.....and gay dudes...that's also an unwanted side effect.
p1-o2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, make eye contact, greet people first, walk in the front, keep your elbows away from your sides, keep your hands out of your pockets, point your toes toward the person you're talking to, add a new shirt and pants to your wardrobe every 2-3 weeks, and keep your hands on the table not under it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine your penis is a magic wand that cures all diseases. Go and poke everyone in front of you.
E-J-E ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't stand or sit with your arms crossed. Have your hands stay down by your waist band whilst standing. If you want an anchor point. Touch your thumb and fore finger together. Don't hold your drink in a bar. Look sound and you will notice most men have the one arm beer across chest posture. Put yours down. You'll feel better.
If youre a male with gynocomastia, this is the exact opposite of what you are inclined to do. Would you rather look like a hunchback or look like youre holding two dinner rolls under your shirt?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere a while ago to walk as if someone is keeping an invisible string attached to the top of your head taught. I visualize it once in a while and people compliment my posture : )
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tits to the sky
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulders back, tits out!
TmickyD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did that once and got flashed by the people in front of me.
I live in Brooklyn NY. I kinda need to keep my eyes on the ground to watch out for dog shit. Its not a confidence thing. Its a not wanting to scrape dog shit off my shoes thing.
i have found that reddit can word things in such a way that impacts my teenagers better than anyway i could word things. this is going to be the 2nd time i print out something and attach it to their bathroom mirror. this time i'll also add photos! thanks bo.bo
This is literally what my coach yelled at my color guard when I was a senior in high school. Imagine a very flamboyant African American man just screaming "LIGHT UP THE ROOM" from the top of the gym bleachers during practice lol. Worked every time
Man, if that were true id never be able to see where I was going. Id have the visual field of a horse. They kinda point out at a 45 degree angle these day. Stupid babies making my boobies sad.
We all know you don't need to put a stupid edit into your comment to thank the person who gave you gold.
[deleted] ยท 603 points ยท Posted at 17:31:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed that people who start working out start 'broadening' their shoulders because they get used to utilizing and stretching out their chest and back muscles. I bet someone could find correlation of confidence building and working out as a result of the appearance change from a better posture learned through exercising.
I have a reasonably sized chest from lifting and when ever i walk with a straight back friends call me out saying I'm trying to puff out my chest.....No! you damn orangutang I'm just walking with decent posture!
I have now lost 50lbs since January 2015. There are so many weird things happening to my body now. I have these hard lumps in my chest, shoulders, back, legs and arms! I find myself flexing at weird times just because I never had muscle in those places before.
Last night after the gym I showed my wife how "swoled" (I actually said "Honey look how swoled I am!)I got at the gym. Side effect I never knew about working out...less than 3 minutes after she was feeling my muscles we were banging like high school kids.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured that a part of it was just that your muscles are essentially "pulling" your body into place so that it's easier for you to assume a more naturally correct posture.
At least that's how it felt for me after a while. But it definitely partially involves walking more confidently with your body.
Also, you just naturally start to revert to good posture if you have a comprehensive workout routine. Work every muscle the same and you will end up with good posture.
I got taller! I already had pretty good posture from a background in dance, but after just 4-6 weeks of doing compound lifts 3-5 times a week, I was noticeably taller. At the squat rack I went from having to use the second rack from the bottom to the third.
Over developed pecs would usually worsen your posture ehehh :(
red-bot ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:59:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet someone could find correlation of confidence building and working out as a result of the appearance change from a better posture learned through exercising.
Oh, of course! I haven't studied the connection, but I know there is one. I've heard so many times that exercising helps out with confidence and even can help fight off negative feelings or depression. Not only does your body get stronger, your mind gets stronger. You feel better about yourself in so many ways; physically and even how you perceive yourself and how you think others perceive you.
li0ns22 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 19:31:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I made a decision before the holidays to get in shape and change myself. 6+ years of depression, daily suicidal thoughts, no confidence, no idea of self worth. 4 weeks later, no suicidal thoughts, my confidence has improved dramatically, I love myself now, and even the negative thoughts I do have get quickly pushed away once I realize what I'm thinking and how it has no bearing on my life. It's insane, I honestly thought I would have killed myself at this point because nothing else seemed to worked. Therapy, medication, none of that seemed to help but hopping on the treadmill for an hour a day is like crack now. I can't stop.
red-bot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:39:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GOOD! This is so happy to read. I think people forget that humans are still animals. We still have underlying needs, even though we might not recognize them or they might not be promoted by society. Exercise is one of those things that most people don't get, I think. Exercise can help so much mentally.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is just wonderful to read! Congratulations to you, I'm really glad you're better now.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:47:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely! I just started working out here and there a couple months ago, the joy I feel every week when lifting heavier weights than last week is just great. Finally being able to do 3 sets of pec flys with 40's (on dumbbells) was a huge rush, I jumped up off my bench and actually punched the air because I was so happy!
I'm still pretty damn skinny even after all these months because I don't eat enough protein to gain much weight, but I still am much stronger than I was and it most certainly shows in my posture and how I carry myself. Not to mention I just feel better all the time; more energetic, more willing to work for hours on ridiculous code at work (software developer).
I don't even do that much, my workouts tend to take less than an hour and all I needed was a $50 dumbbell kit with some weights. Then I drink a protein shake on workout days. 3 days a week, most simple thing ever!
santoxeu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's your workout routine?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
santoxeu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I only have dumbbells too, I'll give this a try.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem! Just eat lots and lots of protein, I've definitely toned my muscles because I'm not eating enough so I'm not bulking. One of my goals for this new year is to put on a ton of clean weight!
Good luck :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get enjoyment out of lifting weights at all =/ I've tried on several occasions. Each at 4 month intervals. But I hate it so much. How did you force yourself to like lifting? Every day when I knew I scheduled myself to work out (3-4 times a week), my day was completely ruined. Knowing that I had to lift actually made my life WORSE. I don't understand how people can just go every day and make it a routine and enjoy it. I envy you guys. I hate lifting =/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well.
I started after my last girlfriend left me, she was supposed to be the "one". Like we were perfect together and everyone that knew us thought we would be married blah blah blah... When she left me I took a look at myself and realized I wasn't happy with who I was anymore. Too skinny, not enough hobbies anymore.
So working out, for me, is something I do because I need to get bigger and healthier. I also honestly love how tired I get, the adrenaline rushes and all of that. I like feeling sore the next day and pushing my body to its limits because I know I'm just getting stronger and building myself into a better person.
To me, my girl leaving me (wasnt to do with how I look, it was something else) was kind of motivation to stop being fucking lazy and do something with myself. I probably would not be working out if it weren't for her leaving me.
The first couple weeks sucked, I hated it and I just felt weak because I could barely lift anything. Now I'm a couple months in and I kind lift heavier weights every week, so its really just a good feeling when I know I'm building the muscle I want and need. You will probably hate it for a little bit, but it starts to not hurt as much after a while. I still push my body almost as far it can go, but the soreness doesn't last as long afterwards.
Just commit to it, find a reason. You won't lift if you don't want to, so make yourself want it. Are you not comfortable with what you look like? Are you too big/small? Well there's your motivation. Get fit, it also helps in every day life. I just feel more alert and willing to work now.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. But really, try it!
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still pretty damn skinny even after all these months because I don't eat enough protein to gain much weight
Ditto! Haha. Glad you found a good routine and that it's making you feel good!! :D I should really get a gym membership or something..
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! Actually I do all my workouts at home, I use my friggin' coffee table as my bench :P I can't be bothered to pay a lot of money to only go maybe 3 times a week when I can do it all at home (at least for now)!
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neat! I can't really afford it either, at the moment. My school might provide a gym, but it's kind of far away.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he means more the fact that your posture changes due to new muscle groups etc might also unintentionally affect mood via body language.
What if working out makes you angry? After an intense workout I don't like how mad I am, I don't understand it. It's like hulk mode.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hm.. I'm not sure.. Usually, for me, it's the other way around. If I work out when I'm angry, it helps cool me down. I'm not sure why you would get angry after a workout.
I doubt it. Mine is barely within normal range as is, ~350. I'm 21.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe talk it out with someone you trust or start writing in a journal? I'm not sure why anger would be connected to working out, but working out is a good thing and you don't want that connection.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:01:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I first tried to go to the gym, they had this compulsory doctor who examines your current fitness levels (liability reasons) and talks about stuff to do with biology.
It was explained to me that a lot of people have shoulders that kind of hunch in, because the primary muscles in their upper body that get a workout are across the chest. So, lifting shopping bags etc, is achieved by tightening/pulling in those muscles in the chest.
To broaden the shoulders, you'd need to do exercises that use the muscles between the shoulder blades. They'd end up getting tighter and pulling the bones back.
Yup, I've noticed that Boxers and MMA (also swimmers and gymnast) fighters tend to have great physique and awareness of posture, because their sport targets the back and core so much.
They have well developed back muscles compared to average population.
ahhter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started getting back into shape a couple years ago and it completely fixed my slouching. I credit the increased strength (and tightening) in my upper back and shoulder muscles.
tableman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I developed my upper back it became weird not to stand like that.
can confirm, after i started lifting weights, i have better posture and more confidence when walking looking forward all times sometimes deep into peoples soul
I started working out seriously about a year ago. I went to the gym yesterday, and looked in the mirror. I actually noticed my posture. I was surprised at how much better I carry myself. My shoulders are no longer rounded, and I keep myself upright. Even though I still have another twenty pounds to go, my more defined shoulders make a huge difference!
HBxSAUCE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely feel more confident after working out
Aulm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll also most likely strengthen the deltoids which will give the appearance of broader shoulder as well.
Oh, certainly! Working out and doing a lot of sports drastically improved my posture. I mean, I still sit in a couch like I'm trying to hug every piece of fabric, but I noticed that I stand and walk with a vastly improved posture.
I had to quit sports due to health issues, but I'm not planning on doing that again any time soon!
Shivern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My posutre isn't very great, and if I don't work out for a while it is really bad. So if I'm taking a break from working out I will notice how bad my posture gets, then I'll go to the gym and just after a set of deadlift (pretty much as heavy as I can) I immedeatly have a much better posture (+confidence).
delaware ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just building muscle. My shoulders widened just as much from doing mobility and flexibility drills as they did from lifting weights. I still tend to walk around with hunched shoulders but it's slowly getting better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I noticed that too (which was why I said stretching their muscles, rather than building). People who work out are more aware of how much they need to stretch out as well, which is where I think the better posture comes from.
There's a certain forward roll of the shoulders that people who workout only their front get. When you start to workout your back, it corrects and gets really good looking.
I've heard there was a study that says just standing in the superman pose for like 2 minutes a day changes your confidence level. I didn't read it tbh. Here's the research
There's a TED talk about how certain postures affect your mood/confidence. Confident poses like standing with your hands on your hips like superman have a physiological affect on your body. Doing one for a minute or two before a stressful situation like giving a presentation or interviewing can make you appear/act more confident. The presenter goes into more postures and the research that backs up her findings.
sephera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It can but you have to make sure there's a balance in strength. My pecs were pretty tight and my rhomboids weak, so my shoulders rolled in. I have a straight back but still working on more back strength
absolutely. i lost alot of weight while also doing strength training and i ended up feeling so much better simply because of how i carried myself naturally. its a combination of all the benefits of working out, even if people dont notice it specifically, they always get the impression subconsciously about you from how you carry yourself.
Cessno ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 16:30:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boot camp will fix all of those posture problems, for a bit at least
Yeah, they definitely come back. I know a dude who went to basic and came back with a ramrod-straight back. He looked like a different person (he's actually quite tall) but over the years his slouch has returned pretty hardcore. Shame.
I'll second that! I thought I had pretty good posture until I got to boot camp. Learning the "position of attention" with a few crusty, pissed off E-7s screaming at me proved that I actually had no fucking idea what "standing up straight" meant.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:25:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're in an office environment and you couple this with holding a folder and walking briskly through the halls everyone will get out of your way and let you get back to reddit faster.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you are a Neanderthal. The average European is 2-3% Neanderthal.
Yeahhhh I get people telling me I walk like I'm trying to puff my chest out, but really I'm just walking straight.
It's insane how terrible the posture is with some of my friends. One is 6'3" or so and looks only 5'10" due to his slouch.
mrsparta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A piece of advice someone gave me once was to do the "superhero pose" 10 minutes throughout the day. The pose is when you stand straight with your head level, shoulders back, elbows cocked out, and your hands/fists are on each of your hips. Do it when you're observing something, when you stop to think, when you're talking face to face with someone. It's a sign of confidence and is also great for posture because unknowingly you'll start to do the pose all the time, helping ultimately with the way you stand consistently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got back in the gym gym recently after being sick for a few years and losing a lot of weight. Two of the biggest parts of my workout have been deadlifts and pull ups. Each work your lower and upper back respectively. I noticed almost overnight my posture had improved without me even having to think about it. It's like a grew another inch and a half. Women noticed too.
This has always been my biggest problem. I slouch like crazy and every time I remind myself to straighten out my back, I do and it only lasts for about a minute.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always was confused by comments like these because try as I might, proper posture starts to hurt my back remarkably fast, no matter how long I stick with it. Thirty minutes of proper posture and my back is in agony. I brought it up at a recent doctor's appointment and my doctor said "welllllll" and pointed looked at my prodigious breasts. Awwww man. (Before the obligatory /r/abrathatfits comments, yes, I'm on it, I'm trying new bras now)
I went a little over the top with it when I first noticed my poor posture. I was walking around campus and one of my friends was like "you're walking like you are ready to fight someone".
Gkoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you do this without looking like youre intentionally popping your chest out?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deadlift more for posture correction. But if you do it wrong, you will also destroy everything so be careful
nixzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I heard this advice when i was in high school, and noticed an immediate effect. Then I grew manboobs and it stopped working as well.
I'm a tall guy so hunching over came pretty natural. However, I found once I started to work out and do squats and dead lifts that my back got a lot stronger and having good posture came naturally without me even needing to think about it. I also got big muscles and no longer look skinny fat. Which also helped with the ol' confidence factor.
So if people are having trouble with good posture, I'd recommend start weightlifting and doing work outs that work on the core muscles. Also, check out /r/fitness because they're pretty insuring and usually has good advice.
I started putting shoulders back but realized that's not enough. Its also important to lift your body from your core. Which is challenge every day. My music teacher used to say imagine someone has you on a string attached and they're pulling up on it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dancing makes a world of difference! When I first started belly dancing, a lot of attention was devoted to teaching us proper dance posture. And it didn't take long before I started paying attention to my daily posture and realizing how slouchy I'd become.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So in other words you looked like a redditor
manrider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
in fairness, neanderthals probably had better posture than the average first world human of today.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't over do it though like that girl freshman year who'd walk with her chest stuck it to try and hide how flat and nonexistent her tits were.
Sometimes I wish I had an invisible camera following me so I could watch the video later and make notes on how I should change my appearance or the way I act.
Ktbear23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work a little bit harder on improving your low self esteem, you stupid freak. โ Weird Al, "Your Horoscope For Today"
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may remember me from such reddit threads as: "what are some simple things you can do to make yourself more attractive" and "whats your favourate meme of 2015?"
scy1192 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:05:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Life is hard, alright? WRONG. Life is easy, you suck.
I'm going to try to keep at these twice a day for a month and see if it helps correct the slightly humped look I have to the back of my shoulders. I'm too young for that shit. After doing them this afternoon and again this evening, I think I may be sore tomorrow.
Haha - okay, I'm glad you asked. I did the exercises for three days in a row. After the third day, I had incredible, keep-me-awake-at-night, can't-think-straight-in-the-day pain in my neck and upper back so I decided to take a couple days off, just gently stretch and wait for the kinks to work out. After a week of severe pain and no improvement with warm showers, Tylonel, and gentle stetching, I called my gp and got some flexeril. It was another ten days or so of gentle care plus the muscle relaxants before the pain backed down.
I talked to my physical therapist (was seeing him for an ankle injury) about my reaction to the posture exercises, and he said, essentially, that they were too advanced for me and that I should start at a much lower gradient- just standing straight up with my back and back of head against the wall. Right now I'm just so relieved not to be in pain any more that I haven't made much of an effort to start back in on any sort of posture exercise.
Interesting note though- I am much more aware now of my head position when I'm sitting or standing, and whenever I notice it, I pull my head back to be more over my neck/shoulders.
Yikes! Sounds like the ol' reddit advice backfired this time. Glad to hear you're no longer in pain. I've been thinking about trying this exercise, but it sounds like it's best to start off slow and ease my way in. If you don't mind me asking, were you a relatively active person to begin with? Wondering if a young, fairly active person like myself could experience a similar injury-- maybe if those muscles aren't normally pushed to that extent.
Normally I am a very active and even borderline athletic person, but I have been much less active for the past 8 months while rehabbing from foot and ankle surgery. I'm thinking my posture is just really, really bad from a lifelong habit of hunching over books. Even given that, it's never bad to start into a new activity gradually, as you suggest. Also, if it hurts bad the first day, and even more the second day, instead of pushing it and continuing a third day like I did, you probably have the common sense to back it down a notch. :)
bren553 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Piggybacking sounds effective. Strengthens those muscles.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! Thanks so much for sharing that video. I think I've seen that one before. Here's one from me to you if you'd like to watch and share with other people!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fixed my forward head with these. I'll also add, a couple simple exercises at the gym that helped me almost immediately were Cable Rows and Face Pulls. Strengthening the muscles will help with the muscles getting tired and gradually pulling your head forward.
At least a couple times a day I'll put my back against a wall in what feels like a neutral position to see how far forward my head is to keep myself in check. It's not enough to do the exercises (though they help a lot), you need to work your way up to being able to hold your head in place throughout the day.
larlelar ยท 286 points ยท Posted at 16:35:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is HUGE. I've had horrible posture the majority of my life, and only recently have been trying to keep my back straight and my shoulders back.
I always thought I had awkward, broad shoulders. Nope, just really bad posture. It also makes it way more obvious I've been working out! (You can see my shoulder, back and upper arm muscles much better.) Plus, posture obviously helps with pain and whatnot.
Good posture, man. It's important.
Daevar ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 17:35:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Bad posture has a lot to do with weak shoulder/back muscles (you won't ever see a picture of a well-trained person with bad posture. It's not only a confidence thing). So, working out normally fixes the posture problem basically as a side-effect, which is great.
edit: To all those asking for specific advice: I won't be giving any because I'm no fitness expert and don't want to spout any nonsense that might even be harmful in the end. I just went to my coach at the gym and asked for instructions - but at the gym there are obviously weights to throw around, so it's not exactly "at home without dumbbells" stuff.
I actually was hoping someone would say this. I got a breast reduction a few years ago which helped my posture tremendously, but the biggest difference came when I started lifting weights - I've actually had several people comment on how good my posture is since I started working out regularly.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 20:16:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too many women simply refuse to lift weights because they "don't want to be a body builder."
I mean, you don't just accidentally get huge muscles. Shit, I've been working out with the intention of getting big for a couple of years... I do not even remotely resemble a body builder
Haha yeah, I don't think a lot of women realize the dedication to fitness/intense diets that it takes to be a bodybuilder. I'm not, and will never be, a competitive fitness lady. I just like to lift heavy shit and put it back down.
Wootery ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:06:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to respond to this kind of nonsense by applying the same thinking elsewhere:
I don't read books; I don't want to be a professor.
Seriously this makes me so sad! I love challenging myself physically, which involves using weights, but so many other women are afraid of looking like body builders. I mean it's not like you're gonna wake up in the morning with some surprise muscles :/ I sure haven't yet, lol.
I have to wonder why they assume they'd look like a female bodybuilder and not like a female fitness model.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:04:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've just started lifting for the express purpose of trying to be able to heft my massive tits without pain. Do you have recommendations for exercises that particularly help? Trying to have proper posture is excruciating really quickly, and I've given up on fixing the problem with some sort of magic bra. I'd like to give it a proper go with lifting before giving in an getting the reduction.
I totally feel you - I was hunched over for years and I still feel the effects of my bad posture years later.
Some exercises I've found are helpful are:
Dumbbell arm/shoulder raises
Dumbbell chest flies
Bent over barbell row
For more in-depth discussion/answers, you can always post your question over on /r/xxfitness - it's a great community of ladies there who will happily give you some support/advice, too :)
You should be much more worried about an injury during good mornings than an injury during a deadlift. A deadlift done properly has very little risk of injury. If you go too heavy on a good morning you fucked.
I'm pretty sure the number one muscle group for keeping your thoracic spine from bending forward is the lower trapezius. They push your sternum forward, and keep your upper spine from drooping. But I'm not sure the exercises I did will work on someone with breasts: floor Y's and chest supported dumbbell row.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've done chest supported dumbbell rows before, they can be done, though they are uncomfortable with the squishing. I'm not familiar with floor y, could you expand on that if possible?
You might need to do the rows specifically focusing on the lower trapezius to build the mind-muscle connection. If you pull straight up instead of sweeping your elbows into your back pockets, you feel it in the outside of your back instead of the center.
Floor Y's are like so, you can't add any real weight on those but just learning how to feel the lower traps and flex them does wonders. Your brain, with the nervous signals to the traps re-activated, stops trying to lift your neck with your worn-out upper back muscles and uses the lower traps instead whenever you straighten up.
How was your recovery post op? Also, which method did they use? Thanks for any info, and I understand if it's too much to ask, I'm a nosey, nosey person :)
Oh, no worries! I'm happy to talk about this stuff.
My entire experience was amazing. I chose the Anchor Incision method because my surgeon said I was more likely to retain nipple sensitivity, which he said I may lose a bit if I opted for the Lollipop Method (bonus: they're even more sensitive now. It's great).
Post-op was fine; they gave me Fentanyl for the surgery (which was insane - I hallucinated bikers in my post-op room), then Percocet and T3's for my recovery period. I was a bit loopy for a few days afterward, but on day 4 I went back to work, and by day 5/6 I was riding my bike around like normal. I was a bit stiff, so I took the drugs as needed to help with mobility, but no intense pain or anything at all.
Mostly I just remember not being able to reach stuff above my head for a week, lol.
I went from having giant, uncomfortable and frankly not terribly perky giant boobs which caused me back pain... to nicely-shaped, perky C-cups. My 'new' boobs look far better than my old ones did, and they'll look/feel better as I get older, too, which was a concern.
Yup! Goodbye $75+ bras, hellooooo 2 for $30 bra sales!
remlu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sacrilege.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:42:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not true. I'm very strong in my back and shoulder, have been lifting 5 days a week for 2 years yet my neck posture still suck due to hunching way too much in front of the computer.
Any advice for someone who does work out/is in good shape but still finds themselves slouching at their desk. I've tried to fix it but it's still a conscious effort and as soon as I start concentrating on a task at work I go back to slouching. It's really frustrating.
ceha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, same for me. It's hard to focus on your posture every damn time. And it also hurts at the end of the day. Any idea, recommendation?
TIL I need to start working out. I don't even know how to begin, nor do I have access to a gym. Oh well, there went that idea.
Doc-Rush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started with Simple and Sinister with a 16kg kettlebell. Total cost $72 and I can workout at home. I haven't put on muscle like a body builder, but I'm certainly stronger, back is more muscular, heart rate is way down, and energy is way up. And my wife says my posture is much better.
To be fair, you do move with the program and you will need heavier bells. And the heavier, the more expensive.
But, it took me from "I should work out but don't love gyms/groups of people/exercise" to "I'm actually enjoying this".
People go to the gym to be seen at the gym. Google/youtube some at home workouts. If you don't want to spend any money search for body weight exercises, calinsethics or "prison workouts". If you don't mind spending a few bucks, get a dumbbell.
Learn a routine that you can do while standing up and watching youtube/netflix/sports/twitch for maximum laziness. Playing video games? Workout on loading screens/in between matches/after dying.
Yup, before I started weight lifting two years ago I used to slouch all the time even when standing and had an unattractive "hump" at the top of my back just from the way I held my self when standing but it's entirely gone and I stand up straight with pretty good posture now. It's something that when I see in others I find really unattractive now as well. Good posture and knowing how to present yourself makes a big difference.
DB Overhead press, L-sits, handstands, bridging, handstands pushups, chinups.
ermundos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
actually, many athletes have a terrible resting posture, the reason you dont see it in pictures is, well, because they are pictures
Ashuvain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. A lot of people who work out have horrible posture. I myself had horrible posture for a long time even if I worked out, and working out only made it worse. If you don't work out properly and you don't pay attention to your posture, it can definitely make it even worse.
If you make sure you work out your back enough (which a lot of beginners don't do) and your core (and I don't mean just your abs) and do enough stretching, then you have a recipe for a good posture.
Also your shoes, wrong shoes for your feet's anatomy can mess up your posture. I need thick heels and a cupped ankle support and I stand up way better than flat sole shoes.
I have great posture, and I've trained myself to walk with confidence. I'm only 6', but everytime I walk through a hallway on campus, or any hallway really, I can feel everyone turn and look at me. I've had plenty of people say that they would guess I'm 6'2 or 6'3. Makes you look taller when you walk with authority, even if you have none.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awkward broad shoulders? Yeah, I have those- they go with my uncomfortable handsome face and tragic hefty penis. Life's tough, bro- stay strong.
larlelar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:18 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha! I'm a lady.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:09 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In elementary school and middle school I did exactly this. I also didn't move my arms at all while walking. One of my closest friends was in elementary with me, though we didn't become friends until 8th grade. She told me that she thought I looked like a child that was abused often.
My brother and dad eventually started making fun of me so I picked my head up and forced myself to move my arms (I had to actively think about it or I'd forget to move them). It took a while before it became natural.
I still have some posture issues with my shoulders though.
I remember reading an article many years ago that people that walk without moving their arms may have a mental illness and since then anyone I see doing this always sticks out to me.
I like to walk with my arms swinging in tandem with my legs--so forcing them to swing the opposite way of what is natural. This makes you look like big foot and people will definitely think you're crazy.
Holy fuck, this has me laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes. I was like, is it really that weird, then you mentioned bigfoot and I got such a vivid visual.
dmandnm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:22:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a decades-old study that indicated that a "Frankensteinian" walk as a young child can predict (to a very limited degree) schizophrenia in adulthood. If I can find the article, I'll link to it.
"Frankenstenian's Monster" walk. Im not saying your wrong, merely whoever named it in the first place. Everyone always forgets the monster was not named Frankenstein, the doctor was.
Shit, I do this. I've been aware of it at least since middle school (I'm in my 20s now), but I've always been too self-conscious to force myself to swing my arms because I'm afraid it'll look unnatural. I have really bad social anxiety, and this just makes it worse. It's not so bad walking on the street, but crowded places are terrible. Sometimes I'll walk with my arms behind my back, but I don't like doing this for too long because it looks weird, like how a samurai would walk or something.
If you hadn't read that article, would you notice someone doing this? Does it look really peculiar?
I probably wouldn't notice, no. I had horrible posture in my mid-20s and worked with this guy that had amazing body confidence and never slouched. I started straightening myself out after that and it finally stuck. I don't regret the time I spent (few weeks walking to and from work) making myself walk with proper posture.
Edit: I'd say to put the time in to fix what you feel comfortable fixing (maybe do some crack-of-dawn walking), but the anxiety in crowded places/parties hasn't gone away. That said, I've noticed that it does get easier over time to appear relaxed.
eek04 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:02:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have really bad social anxiety, and this just makes it worse.
Have you had help with this? There are cognitive therapy protocols for dealing with it that are usually effective, and there's also medication that can be helpful.
I'm not equating rank to severity, and I think it makes for a better joke to couch it in terms of "hey, look on the bright side" when discussing depression and anxiety rather than playing up the commiserating/whining/pity angle by saying something like "ooh, that's some bad anxiety...you didn't even get off easy with Private or even Corporal anxiety."
I'm not a comedian, though, so it's up for debate, I guess.
I had just finished listening to Robin Williams on the way home from work. Not wishing someone to be a comedian might not be such a slight. When you think of the demons some of the best funny men that have had to deal with.
I'm older and just meant that I'd start swinging my arms so my wife would notice the behavior and force me to go to a psych for my overwhelming anxiety :)
I love Olyphant and his show Justified and noticed this too. I was wondering if he did it to create extra tension. I can tell my wife that I need to re-watch those first few seasons for science :)
I don't know if it's for tension, character development, or actually the way he walks. I see him walk this way in everything I've seen him in, though. A few examples:
I didn't move my arms until 8th grade, and i have no mental illnesses (that I am aware of). I remember actually deciding not to move my arms when I walk just because I thought it was pointless and was extra, unnecessary movement that I could do without. Then, later on, I decided to begin doing it because it would look weird if I did not, and why not? Everyone else did.
I don't remember any problems with balance, but you are probably smarter in some ways than 8th grade me.
chuzuki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Similar story here. I was carrying some toy that caught on my pants, which pried it out of my hand and it landed somewhere inaccessible. Decided not to make such a stupid mistake again.
Nochek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:41:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a sign of possible schizophrenia in your later years. You may consider going and getting a gene check in 20 years.
I actually consciously stopped moving my arms when I walk because I read it burns more calories (because it's less efficient, I suppose). So that's what I think of every time I see someone not moving their arms while they walk.
Psudopod ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:42:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people over exaggerate the arm swing since they want to burn more calories. See: middle aged women power-walking. It is just another tool to tune how you go through your calories.
I think u/Splendidissimus meant it burns more calories to NOT swing your arms because...I'm not sure, but it makes sense. Maybe a non-arm swinger is not taking advantage of the free energy that momentum gives you, or maybe it is just harder to balance without an arm swing so you have to engage your core muscles. Though power walking with an exaggerated arm-swing may burn more calories simply through shame because it makes you look like such a doofus. I mean, i dont power walk but I do look like a doofus, i feel, quite a lot of the time and I'm skinny, so? Maybe I should market this....
Psudopod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, that does make more sense, I think?
Call Dr Oz, let's get this fad diet on the road. Doofus diet. Guaranteed to make you shed pounds!*
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never did walk with my arms until
my mother put me down day after day saying I looked like a retarded neandrathal. I started to force myself to walk "normally."
I guess there might be some correlation between this and mental illness. I have anxiety and depression problems, and dissociative identity, along with other minor things like horrid chewing misphonia and tinnitus (but I doubt tinnitus is a mental disorder).
I only move one of my arms when I walk. I've been told I look like a soldier with an invisible rifle before. No idea how that would fit into that study.
The one I've heard with good research behind it is that people who have early-stage Parkinsons (often undiagnosed) tend to move one arm a lot less than the other while walking.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all go through those phases. Sometimes someone just needs to point out what we are doing. I bit my nails for years - with my parents of course trying to get me to stop. One day in junior high someone mentioned something about my cuticles and I more or less stopped biting my nails immediately. Its like I didn't think anyone noticed, but then realized probably everyone noticed.
Gimegkos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LibCat93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone approached me in 8th grade and said she was afraid of me because I never moved my arms when I walked. She said she thought I might be possessed by a demon. I was severely depressed. I tried to make an effort to move my arms after that. And to smile, even if I was putting on a fake one.
Jerlko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I looked like a child that was abused often.
My brother and dad eventually started making fun of me
"Some kid at school told me he thinks I have an abusive home life."
lol. I can see how you might think that, but it was more like playful teasing than abuse. My dad tries to give constructive criticism, but he kinda just sounds like an ass. It's partially his voice though. Obnoxious, loud Mexican guy whose normal speaking voice sounds like he's yelling at you (I'm not exaggerating). My brother and I poke fun at each other.
Holy shit me too. I thought I didn't "need" to swing my arms while walking so I just held them firmly at my sides. I did this for years and was teased immensely. When I finally started swinging my arms it was so weird. Like a bipedal baby deer.
Youre just like my brother. He walks around with his shoulders slumped and never moves his arms. He just lets them dangle. He's also 16, and we keep telling him to fix it.
Does he at least realize how silly he looks walking like that? You can try recording him if he doesn't.
Does he ever go out or have friends over? Next time he wants to hang out, have your parents tell him he has to do work first. I was kind of a bratty teenager like him and that worked for me. If that doesn't work just threaten to take his gaming console.
I was tested for it in 8th grade and was fine, so I doubt it. I don't have any unusual back pain.
ReptiRo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I slouched a lot in school (mostly when sitting) because i was so much taller than my classmates. I still slouch it actually hurts me to sit correctly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, my brother and mom used to make fun of me when I was kid, my posture was so crappy when I walked they called me Shaggy (as in Scooby-Doo shaggy). Take a look at that dude walk its the epitome of shitty posture.
I had a friend who didn't move their arms much. It was strange. Guessed it was as a result of bullying. Didn't help with the bullying. But then, sods law, not much that bullying does to you doesn't help you not get bullied.
Stand in front of the mirror and push out your chest. Twist your back and repeat. Stretch and move your arms out while doing this. It won't fix your posture, but it'll help a bit. Try to look forward more often. I still catch myself staring straight down when I eat.
Have you been able to talk about your abuse? If it still bothers you a lot, it'd be a good idea to see a professional about it.
I was never as bad as that, but I sometimes accidentally stop moving my arms when I'm walking. What's really awkward is when I become aware of how I'm walking and suddenly it's impossible to watch normally.
I looked at the symptoms and some of them fit, but these didn't: I'm not bad at social cues (maybe not good either, but not bad), I understand other people's points of view very well, and have high empathy.
Edit: I also don't plan schedules or have checklists.
[deleted] ยท 720 points ยท Posted at 17:09:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm an archaeologist, I cannot not look at the ground when I walk, that's where you find stuff. Not just artifacts mind you, sometimes it's money. I found a baggie of coke not too long ago...didn't fuck with it though. Also found a geocache without GPS or coordinates due to this habit. I'd say over the last 3 years I've found around 200 dollars by just looking at the ground.
[deleted] ยท 445 points ยท Posted at 17:42:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, all I found was a very dirty crumpled piece of paper meant to look like a $100 bill. Instead you opened it and it told you about Jesus while experiencing crippling disappointment.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:52:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found $100 one time when I badly needed it for glasses, after mine got broken and were held together with tape. Years later I lost $100. I'm even now, and good with that. No archeology involved!
Archaeologist here also, but retired now. Found a fifty once and one twenty. I find a lot of tools, coins and other shit. I can tell you soil type and color almost everywhere I go. This has no practical utility to me at all, but I do it just the same.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, yeah the internal dialogue of 'that's some nice 10yr4/3 Silty clay loam right there." Though TBH, I couldn't do that anywhere I go, I have yet to have the need to consult the red and funky blue hues yet though I have encountered them in my travels.
Oh, it takes me a while in a new place, but it's within a week usually. The differences between the intermountain west, Cascade mountains, and northwest coast are amazing. I'm still addicted to the Roadside Geology series and look at it before day trips.
It's amazing how good you can get at scanning without breaking stride. And I'm completely unable to pass by a plowed field or excavation, especially if it's rained recently. Stuff turns up, I have to go look.
My family uses me to find stuff too, had an aunt drop a ring in the front yard, she enlisted me. I rolled my eyes but I did find it :)
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you mean earrings that you find during surveys or just walking in general? Golfballs are my reoccurring object that always seems to be present during surveys. That and clay-pigeon fragments. The only earrings I've found while working were lying next to a skull.
I haven't really surveyed in years, aside from a few small linear surveys here and there and yes, unless I'm really trying to observe my surroundings, like I'm in a bookstore or grocery store or a new city, I'm always looking at the ground. Was that skull found during an excavation?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:53:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a late 19th century / early 20th century cemetery excavation in Indiana. Very good preservation despite the low quality of coffin construction and material (it was in association with a hospital, so these individuals had no family and/or were too poor to afford conventional burials and were thus buried on hospital grounds by staff. The cemetery was forgotten until construction workers found them.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really and here is where I get confused and my ignorance shows. My forensic PI could likely explain it thoroughly, but I never thought to ask: The skeletons in Indiana were well seemingly intact but their clothing was long gone, which often seems the case, however, when I have worked with bodies with little to no preservation (the skeletons are gone or crumbling) the clothing is more often intact. It's like a strange trade off that has to do with soil acidity I'm sure, but I can't say for sure.
Soil chemistry, amount of water/dampness, etc, bunch of factors to consider. Yeah, where I work the bones just turn to dust because the soil is so basic, as opposed to acidic.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:50:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah water can do some crazy stuff to bones. I thought I had a skull once that showed signs of osteological trauma or disease, but when I pointed the deformations out to the PI, she explained a sort of "bioturbation" that occurs with bones exposed to water. Essentially water can cause postmortem constriction and expansion of bone marrow that leaves the skull looking pretty gnarly, though not necessarily decayed.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:53:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always look under the bar when ordering drinks. It's amazing how much money drunk people will drop on the ground and not realize it.
Further to this.. If I don't look at the ground when I walk then I usually stumble or something because I'm unbalanced and the uneven ground throws me off!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:46:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's in Alabama. Snorting what is likely very highly cut cocaine would probably leave you feeling pretty dirty during the comedown. Snorting highly cut coke that you found by the stop sign in the ghetto of a small town in Alabama would just hurt your soul.
TmickyD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Geology student here. Im the same way. I always manage to find the best stuff on field trips because no one ever looks down. I found a 300myo calamite fossil just sitting in the middle od the trail. Everyone else walked over it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You still got that coke? Asking for a friend here.
My dad is always finding things. Money, jewelry he's found checks. When my siblings and I were kids our parents would take us on walks every Saturday and we would make a game out of who could find the most money. My sister and I still do this sometimes. She find $20 at Golden Gate National park in San Francisco not too long ago.
Why are there so many archaeologists on Reddit? I didn't get the memo we were having a meeting here.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because we live in hotels in rural areas and this is our way to stay in contact with the outside world. duh.
choss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The highest amount I found was $40 that fell from someone(s) on the street and landed in a sleeping homeless man's hat. I couldn't believe it, it was a great day for sure!
Ghitit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always look at the ground for the same reason. I found $20.00 once because I was looking at the ground. I've probably seen $200.00 in pennies but I never pick them up. I leave them for those who need them.
Well when the biggest online job market is called shovelbums, it's not surprising that archaeologists walk around looking for spare change.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the truth.
uwila ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not an archaeologist, but a "treasure" hunter. There are so many nifty things that people walk right past. But I find in general, people seem to neglect the world around them as they move through it.
zmansman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are a highly skilled ground-watcher as opposed to those other lay people who do it and don't find anything cool.
DrSuviel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL people with archaeology degrees aren't unemployed because there are so few archaeology jobs. It's because they find so much money on the ground they don't need to work!
One day I was cleaning up metal that was lying in the street using a magnet. So, I was looking at the ground a lot. I covered a couple miles of road, picking up about a couple pounds of junk metal. I looked in a patch of dirt and saw something that looked like a button. I picked it up and it turned out to be a Los Angeles train token from 1929. I live about 20 miles from Los Angeles too. I wonder how long that token had been sitting on the ground like that, everyday people passing by.
Money and cocaine is made by man. Therefore artifacts. They belong in a museum!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found 75 cents today. #winning
tejaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have found a total of $180 in my life (so far) by looking at the ground. Also found a twenty in with the cabbages in the produce section once, but I'm not counting that since I didn't have to look down to find it.
Surveyor here. It's the exact same thing for me. There's so much information just sitting there on the ground; nails, pins, spikes, paint, service location markers. If you look up you'll miss all of this!!
Hell yeah! I've found loads of money, two gold rings and lots of sterling silver, earrings mostly, which is cool because I am a silver smith. My favorite find is a 24K gold ring I found in a cemetery. Spooky.
I found a baggie of coke not too long ago...didn't fuck with it though.
Nope: Onto the mirror, raked into a few neat lines, and straight up the nostrilsโno fucking around waiting for trouble.
Dhrakyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine that you prioritize finding stuff on the ground over your appearance, that's good! But it isn't what this thread is about.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:02:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cannot not look at the ground when I walk, that's where you find stuff.
It's where you find stuff but miss all the people. And even if you see them, they miss you. That's the trade off. You end up a lonely collector of neat stuff.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't say that's how its worked out for me. I landed a hot professor, have plenty of friends and would consider myself an extrovert. I don't need to exude confidence to the random strangers on the side walk.
I learned this by myself when I started catching the subway everyday to work. When you act determined and with a good posture, people just dodge you like you're the president, it's crazy.
The con is that here in my region there is a lot of ignorant and uneducated people who are able to see that you're not going to stop and bump you on purpose so they can try to pick a fight. It's ridiculous, already happened to me several times, but it's more of a third world problem, really.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:58:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah I exaggerated a little on that one. And that's what really happens, sometimes you just move a little to get out of the way.
But posture avoids most of the dodging tho, I literally used to walk like a drunk bastard to avoid people before I started to keep an eye on my posture.
Keinichn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The con is that here in my region there is a lot of ignorant and uneducated people who are able to see that you're not going to stop and bump you on purpose so they can try to pick a fight.
I have seen people like that as well. I just keep walking. I'm not gonna stop for some stranger who bumped into me. Same reason I don't even acknowledge the presence of a beggar when they call out to me.
Learned this when working retail and the shoppers would never move for me. Started walking like I was going to knock them over if they didn't move and everyone just naturally made room for me.
Keinichn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I used to work retail as well and it helped then. I still do it when I'm in a crowded area. It can look a bit...suspicious sometimes depending on what you're wearing, but it gets the job done.
I'm guilty of staring at the ground while walking but that's mostly because of a compulsion I have to walk on the ground in patterns.
For each tile of sidewalk or section of brick, I have to step on it first with my right foot and end with my left (so that I'll start the next one with my right).
If the sections of brick are divided by something, I can not step on the bricks that are cut off which usually means I take a strangely long stride around there.
Corners of tiles and stuff like that shoot off imaginary lines that I can't step on but if two of those lines intersect, then they create a new imaginary line that is angled so it's in between them. So if one was shooting NE and the other was shooting NW, the new line would shoot N since that is in between those two directions.
I can sometimes get myself to ignore these compulsions if they get too annoying so it's not a big enough problem that I'd go to a doctor and see if I can be diagnosed with something.
EDIT: Yeah, it's a lot like OCD but I won't call it that unless I get it diagnosed because I don't like it when people are all "lol I'm like so OCD". I won't get it diagnosed because it's not worth it. If you do any of these too, let me know which ones rather than just saying "same".
[deleted] ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 16:59:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. Except my pattern is to average out the length of my stride according to the length of the tiles so that I don't step on any lines.
My feet have to hit cracks at the same spot on each foot, and if I miss the right spot, I have to hit that spot on my other foot in addition to the other.
factoid_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:05:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I suspect lots of people have this to different degrees. I feel this in a very real way. If instep on a Crack with one foot the other for feels uneven until I step on a Crack with that one.
But unlike many people who feel this compulsion much more strongly, I can basically turn it off any time I want. I can just stop doing it and walk naturally and the feeling doesn't make me go crazy or feel weird other than it takes a minute to completely forget about it.
I think this is one of those things everyone feels to some extent but never talks about because they think it makes them sound crazy
I know exactly what you mean, except I do it with crossing lines. Stepping on lines feels wrong. I feel like it's some sort of really low-key OCD.
I can't turn it off just by not doing it, it's like the whole "manual breathing" thing. The best cure I have is to just stop looking at the ground.
factoid_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:24:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I feel it with lines too, but it is more pronounced with cracks where there is a physical sensation drawing my attention to it
One foot has to hit the line on the heel and the other foot has to hit the line with the toe.
sjog ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:11:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would drive me crazy. I would feel it through the soles of my shoes and it would feel off all day. I would have to hit the heel and toe of the corresponding feet to make it even.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was waiting for this. I don't usually do it, but if I take notice of stepping on the crack, then I have to.
VanTil ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:02:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying not to break your mother's back?
derp6667 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His father's spine
WilcoRoZ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:41:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same. My brain is sorta lenient in that if it's a longer tile I can go right-left-right on a tile, as long as I go left-right-left on the next haha. So sometimes I can avoid those awkward long strides that make people you're walking with look at you funny
What I used to do was only allow the arch of my foot to land directly over the line so it would feel as if I hadn't stepped on the line, but then I had the compulsion to make sure my right and left arches both stepped on exactly the same number of lines by the end of each city block.
mist91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tend to try to not step on lines by making my heel just touch it. Not on the line but not completely avoiding it either
Hmm I avoid the cracks/sidewalk breaks but don't change stride length. Might need to give that a go as I often end up with repeated awkwardly small steps. I also do not step on thresholds.
Oh god. This started as a game for me when I was younger (maybe 8 or so), and now it's... well, it's more than a game now. Now I concentrate really hard on it, and plan routes meticulously to prepare.
Mine's similar, but my feet do have to touch the lines that divides the sections of the sidewalk. Specially if it's a 3-step tile, I have to touch the lines!
Mine was always starting a staircase with my right foot and ending it with my left. If there were an odd number of stairs, I would double step on either the first or second-to-last (can't remember anymore). Eventually I stopped caring about which foot I ended with, but I still typically start staircases with my right foot.
There's something comforting about nothing being unique. Nearly every thought, action, and feeling is likely shared with hundreds or thousands of people in the world. Only our specific blend of characteristics are what make us unique as people.
kman273 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
unless u like Joffrey. like as a person. then ur fucked.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved Joffrey. Jack Gleeson nailed that role.
kman273 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was going to think of something that possibly only one person would think of including juggling, maths equations and sex with a unicorn, but couldn't be bothered.
Talono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Birdyer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! And on tiled floors my foot needs to step at an exact 45 degree angle to the edges of the tiles (from corner to corner) and step on each tile once.
I've done something very similar to this as long as I can remember. When you go up a flight of stairs, do you try to always start on the right and end on the left as well?
I also count my steps in groups of 4, not sure why but that's the reason 4 has been my favorite number since I was a kid. I tried to explain all of this to a girlfriend once, but I got off topic into a rant about why 4 is the perfect number.
Now the game stays in my head.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You both physically pain me. Groups of 5. Volumes, steps, objects. All have to be a multiple of 5. 3 is ok sometimes, depending on what it is, but never for volume. Volume always has to be on a multiple of 5.
Silent-G ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Steps for me have to be even, so that the next set of steps always starts on one foot/side and ends on the other. Volume, quantity, mass, etc. need to be in multiples of 5.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For each tile of sidewalk or section of brick, I have to step on it first with my right foot and end with my left (so that I'll start the next one with my right).
Ugh, I can't do that ever. I feel this compulsion to start each sidewalk tile with a different foot. It's so awkward, I have to do this little shuffle thing.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your mind naturally makes a playground out of something as minute as walking, doesn't sound like something to diagnose :)
Adarain ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:28:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It always depends. I had a phase like that as a kid and it was terrible. It was completely irrational and I knew it, but I couldn't stop it and I kept inventing new rules. I don't remember how I got over it. I probably eventually had the brilliant idea to disallow walking in a weird manner or so.
If this were still going on, it would be a significant impediment to my daily life. It's not like the funny floor is lava. It's more like the real one.
I still do weird pattern stuff, but most of the time it's harmless. When I was little, though, I had this thing I did with my fingers that I started prioritizing over other tasks. It got bad enough that I would carry stuff around with my wrists because I didn't want to stop doing the finger-thing. Eventually grew out of it, but yeah, it can get bad.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just used to trip a lot. I always need to be aware of where I'm placing my feet.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seem to have grown into my feet and got my shit together
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to stare at the ground because I might find something fun. Or I'm just clumsy and want to avoid any hazards
faze47 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your post really gets me, cause of how precisely you described your habits. You also asked to tell you about similar experiences, but not the same, so I thought I would share.
I have an obsession with some numbers. In particular, 4 and 7 and all variations with them: 11 (4+7), 28 (4ร7), 47 (you know), 16 (1+6=7). It is a whole lot of them, but I try to follow them everywhere like a maniac. I set the volume and brightness on my phone exactly within them, I try to look at the clock when it is time with them and so on in every part of my life.
I usually walk just like you but with an extension: I try to walk exact amount of steps between tiles, on wet and dry parts of the road and such. I think you know what I mean. Basically same as you but with steplimit. It fucks up my walking so hard but I'm so used to it I can't not do it.
I don't know why I wrote it, but I felt really connected. And now I'm afraid I may really have OCD. I haven't heard of it before, but after some googling I started to worry.
You haven't heard of OCD before? It's one of the more well known ones. As long as it isn't really interfering with your life then there's no need to look in to it but if you feel like it would give you some peace of mind, go for it.
Wow, I have something very similar to that. I do it in multiples of five with every new surface I step on starting with the left and ending with the right. So when I step on the road I either need to take 10 steps or 20 or 30 and so on. Then when I walk on the grass the same thing starting with my left again. It used to be just multiples of five but now I feel the need to start on left and end on right for the sake of evenness.
I'm able to ignore it from time to time when I need to and so I don't have to do the funny hop and a skip to fix my steps if I didn't approximate right on how many I'd need to cross a surface. And yeah, it does go to other things such as volume and how many times I press a certain button but for fives instead. Reading sentences too. If I find what I read to not meet my multiple of five rule in syllables I go read something else to try and complete it.
I do wonder sometimes if it's something I need to worry about and maybe it's using a lot of my brain power or something to think about these things. I dunno. At the very least it's interesting to see that other people have things similar.
Therapist here. That is a compulsive behavior, but compulsive behavior is just the 'C' in OCD. There has to be an obsessive thought pattern as well. People with OCD act out the compulsive behaviors because, in the short term, they are a way of coping with high levels of anxiety brought on by obsessive thought patterns. In the long term, however, the compulsive behavior encourages the obsessions to continue.
It's unusual for compulsive behaviors to show up on their own in otherwise normal individuals, but it can happen.
You need to reach out for help when these obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviors take over your life. I was diagnosed with OCD three years ago. It took a long time to catch because I have what used to be called 'cognitive compulsive' OCD. That is to say, I have no outward compulsive behaviors. My compulsive behavior is to compulsively worry, overanalyze things, and by compulsively hypervigilant in a few areas of my life. On the surface, that looks like straight up anxiety. It wasn't until I sought out some therapy for the anxiety that I realized I actually had OCD.
With some medication and hard work, I got my life back. I'm a much happier person.
That is a compulsive behavior, but compulsive behavior is just the 'C' in OCD.
I've actually thought about just calling it CD since I don't seem to have the O. I've already determined that I'd get help if it ever progressed to where it was starting to take over my life (that's the D part in OCD, right? If so then I guess I'd just call what I have C). It's cool to receive your input on this, thanks.
No problem. It's highly likely that you have an O, it's rare in developmentally normal persons to have just the C. That would mean you do have OCD, but if it's not interfering with your life, then we would call that 'subclinical'. If it isn't impacting the quality of your life or interfering with your ADL (activities of daily living), then it's clinically insignificant and it's functionally the same as a personality quirk.
Just out of curiosity - what happens when you make a mistake or are for some reason forced to walk 'normally.' Or, as Peter Griffin would say, does it make you feel feelings?
People put a lot of stock in the doing of the C, but what happens when you can't do the C is something to pay attention to as well. What happens to a germaphobe if they don't have a sink/soap/hand cleaner/towels? What happens to the hoarder when you throw their stuff away and don't let them accumulate anymore? What happens to the anorexic if you don't allow them to control their own food intake? I'm guessing that in your case, you don't have any negative effects from not walking like that, but in a person with clinically significant OCD, it throws their entire world into chaos. That's what makes OCD tricky to treat - however maladaptive, the C is a coping mechanism, and people can be terrified of getting rid of the only thing they've even known to work. As they say, the devil you know . . .
When I do mess up it's more of just a weak "darn" feeling. Nothing feels wrong for more than a few seconds. If I mess up a few times in a row or I'm going over a more difficult section of ground then I just say "fuck it" and ignore it and walk with a normal stride. I'll still recognize when I mess up but it just doesn't bother me then.
I get that too. It's almost like a game and a boss was thrown at you when you were unset leveled and not in the right frame of mind. Sometimes for me it can weigh over my conscience for a few hours if I mess it up while trying to get it right. I always forget it over time but for a while it just feels off and unbalanced.
Edit: Thinking on it, that's also probably why I made the rule where I'd I don't step using my whole foot out doesn't count. It helps when I need to fix my steps real quick and don't want to look too word so I kinda just tippy toe my way through hah.
Yeah, unless it gets worse, it doesn't sound like there is any reason to be evaluated by a mental health professional (although bear in mind I'm just some stranger on the internet.) Like I said, statistically speaking, you probably do have an O somewhere in there, but trying to identifying it is a waste of your time right now. As one of my colleagues used to say, "Not everything needs a cause. Some things just are there." (He's a Buddhist, which was great to have in a colleague, it was a neat viewpoint to hear).
You're not the commenter that I asked that question too, and I couldn't find a similar comment in the thread from you about similar symptoms, but if you have the same compulsive behaviors (or any compulsive behaviors) and your mind's response when you can't carry it out is what you described above, you absolutely need to be evaluated by a therapist.
Oh, okay. Yes, hoarding is a pretty extreme example of OCD. I don't think people realize this, they think they can just throw everything away and the hoarder will be fine. They have no idea how traumatizing this can be, and that without therapy, it will be a cycle that happens over and over.
I usually have to step in the center of something right left left right. all while sometimes adhering to some of those rules that you have yourself. And sometimes I make the pattern go bigger. So we normally go with R LL R L RR L L RR L R LL R.
It's easier to keep track of it when you think of it in fours. I usually just twitch my thumbs to fulfill the pattern. But I used to sometimes do it with my fingers with each finger doing one twitch, then pinkies at the same time, then I do it with my hands, biceps, forearms, thighs, and calves, followed by sucking my gut in, pushing it out, and then flexing my abs. I haven't done it in a while though.
I must not have explained it as well, because my pattern is always in groups of 4's. You do a small group of 4, then that becomes one fourth of the new bigger group of 4's and so on and so forth depending how stupid I get. Basically you just described how I do it.
I do the same thing and have a couple of anxiety related problems, which OCD is, but I wouldn't classify it as OCD either. It's not so much a compulsion as more like a game to entertain myself while I'm walking somewhere.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I mean it's like the difference between going to the doctor for blood loss and going to the doctor for a nosebleed. It's not really a problem for me but if it does get worse I'll look into it.
BNNJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Colors, shapes, height of everything on the floor used to make the ministry of silly walks stamp me with their seal of approval.
I also counted letters in the sentences i read, wrote, heard or spoke.
Few other things concerning urban landscapes. And then some more.
I all went away progressively. But i still walk silly from time to time, for nostalgia's sake.
One thing I do is when I'm riding shotgun in a car, I focus my eyes on the road or trees so that I see two images of a particularly noticeable spot on the windshield. Then I move my head around so that both images always pass over objects like signs, telephone polls, and cars; I can't let one touch something and the other not touch it. Also they have to go all the way through the object.
BNNJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to store in my mind the shapes of things i encountered and play a mental tetris.
I hear that when kids with Turrets Syndrome go to this one summer camp for TS kids, they often trade tics so the parents have to deal with entirely new ones. I wonder if something similar might happen in this thread.
EDIT: Yeah, it's a lot like OCD but I won't call it that unless I get it diagnosed because I don't like it when people are all "lol I'm like so OCD".
Don't compare yourself to other people: the only question you need to ask is whether it causes distress to you. The definition of a 'disorder' is something that causes you distress or interferes with your life negatively. When I finally looked up the symptoms of OCD online, I found quite a few that I related to that were causing me a lot of distress. Previously I had been afraid to attribute OCD to myself for the same basic reason you stated, but ultimately it was helpful to self-diagnose as having OCD, even though it's comparatively mild. I can now see when I am behaving obsessively or compulsively and stop before it gets stressful (there's a great guide for how to stop OCD thoughts on this page). It might be worthwhile for you to check for other symptoms online. (My own distressing symptoms are not being able to stop an activity without 'finishing' e.g. can't stop playing a video game until this quest line is over, and obsessive ruminations.)
the only question you need to ask is whether it causes distress to you.
I have and since it doesn't it's fine. I personally think it's just really mild OCD.
ideababy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So that's not helpful for anything. I advise you get over it.
loller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I often find myself hopping just so my right foot will land on the next crack and my pace won't be thrown off. Been doing it since I was a kid. My other weird compulsions have all mostly disappeared.
I do the whole "gotta step over the lines" thing. Doesn't matter which foot, as long as I don't step on the lines. And when there's brick (I live in the city lots of brick sidewalks) then I have to cover a whole brick and two lines with each step.
Weird, maybe. A little compulsive, sure. OCD, not even close. What people with OCD suffer from is FAR greater than my little compulsions with the sidewalk.
Are you me?! Holy crap, anyone I've confided in about this thought I was nuts. Is there a name for this specific idiosynchracy?
cacanova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to end sections with my right foot, although this isn't as big of a deal to me as ending sets of stairs with my right foot, which has lead me to waste an enormous amount of my time memorizing how many steps various staircases I frequently use have.
Oh my gosh I do this too..maybe we have an overactive imagination?
RoyMBar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to take an even number of steps on each tile, going so far as to take an extra baby step at the end of tiles if necessary.
rauer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the projected lines thing and the rules about which foot to use, but my rules are left foot for up (up a curb or up from tile onto carpet, etc) and right foot for down.
Wow. I can't tell you how comforting it is to hear this described. Mine is different but the same: If my foot lands on the crack i have to land on the next crack with the opposite foot in the same section of my foot. If I don't I have to fix the fraction over the course of the next few steps.
Additionally, Power lines make geometric patterns but I don't have time to explain.
The biggest interference I've gotten is I stopped playing a JRPG because my character's experience totals got way out of balance and there was nothing I could do to fix it.
apoco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I count my steps.
I know that on my walk into work, for one section of the side walk, I fit in 4 steps/4 steps/3 steps for each pad of concrete. For the next section with longer concrete pads I fit in 6 steps if I'm in a rush and taking long strides, 7 steps otherwise.
I always make sure to not step on the lines, even if that means having one stride that is only half length. I try to keep the steps per square consistent.
Ks427236 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can be more out of habit than a diagnosable medical issue like ocd. Yeah its annoying when people say things offhand like "lol I'm so ocd", many people with ocd absolutely SUFFER from it. Affects day to day living, social interaction and overall health and wellbeing.
Tl;dr- props for knowing the difference between a genuine compulsion and something you tend to do
I have a habit (wouldn't call it a compulsion necessarily) to walk and step with my heel directly on the crack. Specifically sidewalks. Although, that is likely from being in marching band in high school. I still do it and can hear the beat in my head with my pace too.
Corners of tiles and stuff like that shoot off imaginary lines that I can't step on
I used to do this! I finally got myself over it, goddamn was it hard to do
jaybusch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I move like a knight on small square tiles in the kitchen. I started it as a joke because of xkcd, now I do it subconsciously. Helps that it fits my natural gait.
I used to do that. It became annoying, so instead I started planning steps to intentionally hit the parts I previously tried to avoid. Instead of picking between hitting and avoiding, I think of the spaces as different categories, all of which can be hit. I try to set a pattern that matches my normal walk.
The only time this doesn't work is with the seam on treadmill belts. Fuck those things, they are always off-pace.
sjog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the exact same thing, except with the opposite feet (start with left and end with right). It results in a lot of hopping and ridiculous sized steps.
I do this with cracks on the sidewalk and colors of tiles, it was a game i played in elementary school where you were supposed to walk on only one color of tile. i guess it kinda stuck
PSU02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get it diagnosed bro. I went and for a year met with a counselor. I'm now happy to say that I hardly ever have obsessive thoughts and I VERY rarely have to perform compulsions.
Nofgob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to look at the ground while walking when I was younger because I would go fishing/hiking a lot and would end up finding a ton of cool stuff while fishing and while hiking on loose rocks you have to look where you're going. Was a weird habit to break.
nit4sz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god!!! I do similar things! Though my rules are slightly different
Earfdoit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like your views on OCD. I was never diagnosed but I had it in a pretty extreme form when I was younger and one of the only things I've retained from it is a similar issue with walking patterns. I still wouldn't tell people that I have OCD though, because I think that it's stupid to say you have a mental problem that makes some people's lives hell when you just like a clean room or have to pay attention to how you walk.
YES. I also do this, but to the point where it can actually alter the direction I'm ealing because stepping off a certain row of blocks bothers me so much. Is this something that I should get checked out, I've never really considered how strange it is.
If it is so annoying that it will actually stop you from doing something like walking down the street, then it's a problem. If it's just a little annoying like it is for me, not really worth it. If you do have OCD, another symptom is anxiety but I've only felt that once or twice for a short period of time.
Mental illnesses usually won't kill you directly; they'll just make you miserable at most.
brastein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude I do the corners thing too! It's funny hearing someone else describe it. Pretty sure I've mastered just walking on them like a normal person, but I always recognize them, my old friends. Only you take it to the next level with the 2nd degree lines, fuck! Do your lines shoot into the shape as well as out?
The 2nd degree lines isn't even where it ends sometimes. I kind of color the imaginary lines as red and the 2nd degree ones as green. If a green and a red intersect, then they cancel out and no line is produced but if a green and a green intersect they make yet another line but the 3rd degree line doesn't have a color since they are rare. I don't always do 3rd degree lines either.
For me, lines don't exit the shape that they are in, they just bounce around a little.
brastein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting you have colored lines. Mine are colorless, at least as I remember. I guess they're less visual, it's like I sense them with some other, indescribable sense. They permeate through space indefinitely, both in and out of the corners that spawn them, kinda like mathematical lines. But after a couple steps I forget about them :D
KrekyDaG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was diagnosed with ocd in elementary school. I used to count every single step like all the way into the hundreds. I don't do that as much anymore now its like what you said left foot right foot stuff thats all just too much to try to explain.
immelol4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fuckin wicked 'tistic, bro
Tunaluna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this a lot when walking my dog and such. Same foot forward onto the sidewalk every time , or at work I watch how my shadow changes on the ground as I walk past the lights.
I was told by a psychologist that it's not OCD unless it interrupts your daily life. Stuff like: do your compulsions prevent or delay you from showering, eating, working, socially interacting? Only then is it a condition that requires medical treatment.
It sounds like you're able to control it, which is a very good thing. There are forms of therapy that can help you learn to control it even better, and sort of "rewire" your brain, to not have those compulsions anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went way too far with it when I was on campus, I just wanted to avoid it, but didn't know where to look or what to really do with my arms, SO I was walking around like I was Brock Lesnar
my appearance didn't help me NOT look somewhat intimidating, I had a few friends I made there who would say things like "Man, I'll admit, when I first saw you, I thought you were some kind of hard ass looking for a fight"
NOPE, just didn't know how to walk
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! It does feel really awkward. One thing I noticed was when I was watching House and I noticed Chase really exaggerated his strut so it would read better for the camera. You don't really notice it until you look for it. It's kind of the same thing they teach in theater class, too. You need to exaggerate your motions so that even people in the back row of the nose bleeds can pick up your intention in your movement.
I walk with a slouch because of gyno. If I walk out with my shoulders back it looks like I have boobs, and I'm trying to stick them out. Sucks, but I'm so self conscious about it, it's like a loop of low self confidence.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep trying! I have the confidence that you can kick the low self confidence cycle >:D
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have wonderful posture. And then I became an entomologist. There are so many fun things to look at on the ground!
Tuck your chin in too, so that it is pointing straight down to the ground. You might feel a muscles pulling at the back of your neck, on either side. That muscle is usually heavily undeveloped, and when you get older you'll have that posture with your head sticking out to the front. Fix your chin posture.
This is great advice unless you are a clumsy oaf like me. I tried breaking myself from the habit of looking down while walking and you know what I discovered? I trip over things a LOT. Uneven pavement or sidewalks, sticks, my own damn feet. The worst was a couple of weeks ago, on some black ice. Had a gigantic bruise on my ass and may have screwed up my hip. So I may look stupid staring at the ground, but at least I don't trip.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least look up and around on occasion! :) Let people see those beautiful eyes.
Look, just because I'm female doesn't mean I'm not allowed a bad day, right? Maybe I'm thinking about how my dad is dying at a young age because he didn't take care of himself like the doctors told him too. Maybe I'm thinking about my shitty job and my shitty, immature boss and how I can't afford to quit because of my shitty student loans. Or maybe I'm just tired. It doesn't matter. Telling some complete stranger to smile is just rude. I'm here minding my own damn business; I don't need to smile just so that you feel that much better about your world. My default face is a slight frown just like most people's. Do you tell men to "smile"? Most likely not. It's just women who for some fucking reason need to be constantly smiling like it's their fucking job.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooook.... I usually don't tell strangers I walk past anything. If anything, I make eye contact and make a quick smile, and then go about my business. And yeah, I do that for guys too. Sometimes a smile from a stranger can go a long way. It does for me. And I understand that some people might be having a rough time or maybe it's just their resting face. All I'm trying to accomplish by smiling at people is to possibly brighten their day or encourage them to look on the bright side of life. They don't have to think anything of it. The people who I actually say 'Smile!' to are usually people I know. Maybe they are having a rough time. I'm not trying to make light of anyone's troubles or heart ache. I'm just trying to encourage them that it gets better. I don't do it because it makes me feel better about my world when everyone around me smiles. It's not a selfish act. Maybe you've had experiences in the past where people were rude or inconsiderate about telling you to smile or whatever. It's obvious that something set you off. I'm not sure what it is, but I'm sorry it happened. No, you don't always need to smile. Yes, it's important to show your emotions, even if that's sad or mad or scared. But I will say that I hope things get better for you and that you will be able to smile when the time is right.
"And I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, 'If this isn't nice, I don't know what is.'" - Kurt Vonnegut
I do smile when something or someone makes me happy. I also smile when I'm being polite, or when I'm paid to smile (yay customer service side job!). But those in-between moments, when I'm trying to shrug the work off and think about life things like dinner and chores and Pokemon, there are a hundred different thoughts that go through my brain and the vast majority of them don't merit a change in facial expression. You telling me to smile is assuming I'm frowning on purpose. I'm not, that's just my default face. So I'm supposed to just smile because it makes you happy?
"Iโd actually done that a couple times before myself, and each time I thought the request was playful and innocuous. Itโs just that, when presuming that nothing could possibly be that bad in an attractive womanโs life that she dare not smile, you are dehumanizing them. Itโs a โniceโ form of dehumanization, but itโs still dehumanization nonetheless. Itโs also transparent. You donโt see men running up to homeless women and the elderly and asking them to smile. The request is usually made when the requester thinks the requestee is attractive. Itโs not about a legitimate need for women to be happy as much as itโs that smiling/pleasant-looking women are easier on the eyes and more inviting to approach. Itโs really not about the woman at all."
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, I think you're assuming I've done something I haven't. And also, again, if you've had bad experiences with it, I'm sorry, but sometimes those aren't the intentions. I don't get told to smile by women on the regular, and I'm not a woman, so I don't know how often other guys say this to women. I honestly think that most people, whether they smile at you or they say 'smile' have good intentions. It can be taken the wrong way, too. I think, by you saying they can read your mind, you are assuming you can read their intentions, which isn't always true. I'm sure there are people out there that say things like this for bad reasons, but you can't always assume people are out to hurt you or make you upset. The way I'm understanding you is that you would be offended if you were having a bad day and someone told you 'I hope you're having a good day' or 'Have a nice day.' If that's the case, I think you are looking to be a victim of something that just isn't there.
I think it depends on the situation. If you're flirting with someone, telling them to smile can definitely be a compliment. You're interacting with them as an individual and you're trying to express that you find their smile beautiful or something, that's fine.
When it can get annoying is if you're using that "line" on any female near you, as casually as a, "How are you?" It stops being about an individual you're interested in and just comes across as a command without any context into that persons life.
It can be hard for people to tell the difference between you using a line on them, and you being genuinely interested in them, so your delivery is the most important part. People seem to prefer to be appreciated as individuals.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't say it, or often at least. If I ever said it to anyone, it would definitely be intended as "Hey, I think you're pretty, and I think you have a pretty smile" or as a reenforcement of their confidence. Is that acceptable? I would never try to use it as a means of demeaning someone or try to make them feel small or objectified.
Honestly, it's probably fine. If you seem genuine, I'd take it as a compliment and move on. But there are other women that are definitely harassed a lot more than me and they're the ones who are more likely to take it negatively. Definitely something to be aware of, but I think it's awesome when people compliment others.
malbane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fixed my bad posture on campus by putting my shoulder straps for my back pack slightly farther apart, it pulls your shoulders back automatically and makes it super uncomfortable to have your head down (note do not do this with a really heavy backpack, it really hurts). After doing it for a while I naturally walk like that now
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice! I think I've tried tightening my backpack straps to make it hug my torso more so it pulls my shoulders back.
This is such a diffrence maker, on the days (or let's be honest weeks) when I'm not feeling quite as confident I just roll those shoulders forward and it's amazing how remarkably unnoticed a 6' 240lb man can go and feel.
If someone breaks their clavicles we take cravats (bandages that look like bandanas) and make a backpack/bra thing. It pulls the shoulders back and relieves pain. I make one of these for my self when I find my self slouching on the computer, it works wonders.
I remember reading someplace that there are studies that show walking with your head up, helps keep you mobile in later life by improving balance and brain health.
The left side of my neck had been aching for the last month but then I did those excises in the shower and something just clicked (there was an actual pop). I feel amazing now, 100% better. Quality post, thanks. You're now tagged as "saved my neck".
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah! That's great! I'm glad you feel better now. :D
Furfaidz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I second this. Also, stare at the person you're talking to or who is speaking. It shows you're confident. Just, don't do this if you're in Japan or where ever it would be considered rude instead of confident.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pro tip: Working out will do wonders for posture and confidence. Your chest and shoulders become broader so you walk with better posture naturally without having to concentrate on it.
And that's before getting into the testosterone and energy boosts you will get from it.
Confidence. Good thing to be taught. I remember being taught as a kid , when you meet someone new you look them in the eye and shake their hand. Had a job interview once , and was hired. The hiring manager told me a few months later , he had hired me because I was the first of about 15 interviewee's that had looked him in the face when they introduced themselves.
I always do these things, and while I don't think it makes me more attractive. It does make you feel more confident. I don't get why people look at the ground so much, it's not going anywhere
I just saw the Life Pro Tip post about improving your posture so I came here to say improve your posture. If only I could link the two posts as an infinite loop.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're still correct, though! :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean by put your shoulders back ? Like just relax ?
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like, straighten up! Some people slouch and it feels like there are heavy sand bags on your shoulders/shoulder blades/back that push them forward (actually probably just weak muscles). What I mean by straightening up is taking those sand bags off of your back and carry them like grocery bags and puff your chest out and hold your head high. It's probably not very relaxing of a feeling. Slouching is comfortable. Straightening up is going to use your weak back muscles.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea slouching isn't professional looking at all in certain situations. I just have trouble looking up at peoples faces and stuff. Im just socially awkward like that but ill follow your advice the best i can
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also amazing how much better you FEEL when you walk this way. It's like you've created confidence within yourself, and it's noticeable not only by others, but internally as well. I've gotten in the habit to straighten up as soon as I notice I'm slumping (which is often). It's like standing in one of those power stances; you just feel better.
I know you have a zillion responses but I can tell who the high schoolers walking home are because they hug their binders to their chest and stare at the ground as they slowly trudge home.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do have a zillion responses! Or so it seems! I'm not used to it either. ; - ; but you're probably right about the high schoolers. It doesn't help that kids are so damn cruel to each other.
aidenegf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so true! That Ted Talk you posted? I saw it a few years ago and usually I'm the kinda girl who'll make herself smaller in stressful events like job interviews etc. So last May I had an interview for a internship at a psychiatric institution for my masters degree in neuropsychology. I was really terrified and felt like this would fail. I would fail. Than I thought about this Ted Talk I once saw, and stood in the Power Pose for a couple of minutes. Okay, remember, it's only an interview. You can give the best you have, and that should be okay. And after that pose and some self motivation I actually felt more confident! I got the internship!
red-bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:59:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually did this for internship interviews as well! I did a couple of interviews, and while I didn't get them all, I got one. :) Congratulations on your internship!! How is the program going? :)
aidenegf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations to you too! Thank you :) My program is very interesting and sometimes a bit stressful. I don't have that many (maybe 1 or 2) friends or so with mental health issues so now I'm around people with issues all day, it's very very educational. How is yours?
(also, can't find my post in the thread. This was my first reddit reply ever. Oh well...)
red-bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! A reddit account for 9 months and no comments? :0 Well thanks for joining in on the conversation! :) and yes, this is a reply to the previous comments!
My internship is also pretty interesting but stressful. I've heard it compared to grad school, although it's not considered grad school. I don't think I'm smart enough for that. Ha. I'm more into the clinical side of things, not so much research. I've got about 7-ish months left of school/internship left! Is there anything you've learned that you could tell me that you think is super interesting and would blow my mind? :)
aidenegf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I love to read askreddit but never replied because first my English is a bit rough around the edges and second most of things I'd like to respond are already posted when I start reading the thread.
Sounds great! I actually like the clinical side more than doing research (still ignoring the fact I should start searching for a thesis supervisor..). Hmm, there's nothing on the top of my mind at this moment. Something I've learned is that some people that are in a coma can actually eat and walk with help. That's something I learned a couple of weeks ago and never really thought of. And maybe (by doing a lot of IQ tests) the fact people structurally overestimate other peoples IQ (including myself). I'm attending university and yet I think my score will be around the higher end of 'average' or the lower end of 'above average'. A lot of people compensate with their verbal intelligence, so others will overestimate them and that's kinda key for failure in real life. In what field do you work? Any super interesting facts?
I used to have a combination of massive self confidence/esteem/image issues along with social anxiety (they're still there, just not to the same extent and I try to let them not control me any more) and I used to be the person who walked staring at my knees/chest, not even just my feet or the floor. This was made worse by the fact I was at a school with no friends.
I knew what was correct posture, as my mum and old school tried to teach us and over time I started working on some of my issues. I forced myself to glance up, look up, just walk with my head up. Then stand up straighter. And it's funny but the whole 'fake it til you make it' thing is true. I wasn't confident but walking with purpose with proper posture made me look like I was. Even now, if I feel like shit and want to hunch over myself I force myself to walk properly and the act of it helps my mood and my confidence. Walking with purpose even when you're lost also helps you look like less of a target.
I don't know if it makes other people like me better, but it makes me like myself a little more.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for sharing your story. :) It definitely helps me feel better too!
mces97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to always walk and look down. I'm so glad I got out of that habit. It definitely is a much more confident way of just being out and about.
red-bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:12:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed recently I did something that nobody ever taught me was bad... Everybody knows you should straighten your back, even if they don't care and have only heard old timers say it in black and white movies, but nobody ever told me to push my hip forward
Or, actually just put it in its natural position. I used to walk around with my butt sticking out ever so slightly.
If you stand sideways in the mirror and you straighten your back and notice the shoulders, try to look at your hips to see if your back curves down there.
As soon as I noticed, I changed my posture, and I felt as if I had super human balance all of a sudden. Carrying myself became so much easier and I just fall in to a healthy posture by default.
Keeping a good posture is important for a multitude of reasons. Bad posture does not necessarily make you unattractive - but a good posture amplifies it (not like you're going to get broken up with by a girl because you accidentally slouch over when you're tired. It's actually natural to raise your shoulders when it's cold fx, and that doesn't look unattractive).
But more importantly, keeping a bad posture is a huge waste of energy. Sure, if you have bad posture and you're just changing it now, you feel clumsy and weird, but as soon as you start doing anything, your movements will be optimized, saving you energy.
And secondly, it will make you feel better about yourself
red-bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:28:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with everything you've said! Also, I've felt at times that by behind was sticking out a bit. Never really felt I've had a comfortable fix for it, but it's not like I'm always aware of it either.
I fixed my posture through wake boarding a lot. When I was taught to wakeboard I was told to pretend to hold something with my shoulder blades ad while that may be a little exaggerated it certainly helped me.
KA1N3R ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did the same thing.
I changed it and now people tell me I sometimes walk like a model.
So...I guess I improved.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It took me over a decade to realize why my posture was so bad and to begin correcting it. I always thought it was my backpack that's three years younger than I am, but around a year or so ago I realized that it's because of how I'm tall. I've always been tall, but unlike most tall people my height comes from the waist up. My legs are average length, but my body is longer than normal. As a result, shirts don't fit well and I have to bend down to put my hands in my pockets which is the key to the whole thing. I've been doing that for as long as I can remember and sloping my shoulders and slouching in the process. People don't usually believe me when I tell them I'm 6'3" because I'm slouching, but if I stand up straight the usual reaction is "Oh, that makes more sense now". I gain at least three inches by standing up straight.
Now that I'm aware of the cause of it all, I've started fixing it. And I've noticed a difference, I feel more confident in general. There's still progress to be made in that aspect, but the progress I have made thus far is promising.
I've actually been working on this lately, and just realized I get so many more comments on how tall I am. I'm 6' 3" but when I walk all hunched like usual I look small. Once I started putting my shoulders back and walking tall it makes me feel and look more confident too.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit, as a pitcher in baseball I have naturally developed my right shoulder to stick out and always looks weird to people.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Professional or school??
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Natural curve!! What you're explaining sounds about right. Head, shoulders, butt, and heels. :)
If you're a female, this is ESPECIALLY important as it helps your breasticles from sagging and furthering back problems you could potentially have. I have to physically correct my well-endowed sister all the time.
jcrdy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i dont do this because then more people will ask me for money. i live in a major US city and I do like it here but if you use public transit to get around the city or go to main areas you will be asked for money almost every block. if you have headphones and keep your head at that 90 degree you won't be harassed by as many people. its not that i am not confident or that i want to look at the ground, its that the last time i looked up a man with face tattoo was making eye contact with me..
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can understand that. A lot of people seem to think that I mean to never look down. There are obvious reasons why you may want to look down, just don't make it an all the time habit.
jcrdy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which is completely understandable, sorry for being that exception to the rule poster that reddit always seems to have
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No need to be sorry! You're not alone. And it's really OK! :)
In addition to the links you've got so far, might want to add this /r/Fitness thread - only just started using this guide myself about 2 weeks ago, and while there's not much visible result yet (when I'm not actively thinking about it, anyway) I already feel much better, particularly the middle of my back
My grandpa said this to us constantly. Sit up straight. Stop slouching. Put your shoulders back. You look like you're falling forward all the time.
He was right.
PyrZern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do a bit of classic ballroom dancing (Foxtrot, Waltz, or American Tango). You get into the habit of looking awesome just standing still or walking around. Great posture.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i fixed my walk and oddly i felt much more confident
On a side note, I noticed that I used to look at the ground when I walked quite a lot, especially as a kid. Once I got glasses I generally walked with my head up more as I could see more clearly where I was going and wouldn't have to worry too much about tripping up.
If you walk with your head looking at the floor, try going to the opticians!
I always just look at those people staring at the ground as they're walking, hoping they'll pop their head up. Why are they so afraid of the world that they literally can't look at people when they walk?
I'll edit your advice OP, always walk as if you have a purpose. Hold your head high.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk as if you have a purpose. I like it!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In general, just try not to look downward as much as possible unless there's a good reason to (steps, very uneven surface, ice), even when standing still.
If you're in a crowded area and someone's looking in your direction, you can look behind or to the side of them, above their eyes, etc. while keeping your head up or bring a book (you won't appear to be less confident if you're looking downward to use your phone or read a book).
Hey thanks for linking that video! I've been thinking about that instructional video for a few days now, having seen it on here before, but hadn't been arsed to hunt it down. Cheers!
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem! :)
Standoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love this
jdol06 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit I've been trying to find that video with the Australian fella forever. I saw it in a thread about posture correction but couldn't remember anything about it. awesome! now, has anybody found success off of following it?
I get this all the time when I get photos taken. I know I hunch my shoulders a bit when I walk, but I don't know how to put my shoulders back. Can someone show me photos of what to do?
Taymac45 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:57:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok pretend that there is a string attached to your breastplate. (Middle of the chest) and that is pulling your chest up. Then I usually just roll my shoulders back a bit and the way they comfortably rest in this position will be ideal.
Source: Mens Choir.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Puff your chest out a bit. Put your arms by your side and then put them further behind to your side. It feels really stupid, but when you look in a mirror, it looks good. Slouching feels much more comfortable, so you will probably need to actively think about it. I'm linking this Ted Talk to a few other people responding. I recommend watching it!
Confidence, ESPECIALLY via body language, is so damn attractive in a man for me. I know it sounds like bullshit but it's not. Yes, other factors play into attractiveness, but I can assure you that confidence as an attribute is hot as fucking hell.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never really noticed how stupid it looks until I saw some people walking around my college campus with their head at a 90ยบ angle to the ground while walking.
Some people just have too much going on in their head to give a shit about such arbitrary shit. I have ADHD and work in a STEM field. My mind is racing 24/7 with real things to think about not how I'm walking. I'm attractive, in shape, cycle and power lift 4x a week sometimes 5, and have good hygene. No matter how self aware I am of my posture my brain shuts that shit down as soon as I'm walking and become bored.
red-bot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:24:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No I completely agree. I often have a scatterbrain too and I don't seem to notice that I'm walking with poor posture. It's a constant effort to remind myself to straighten up. I can totally relate to your comment.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did try changing how I walk, but it just made me look even more "stupid". The whole fucking class laughed at me and that's when I finally understood that whatever I do they will still laugh. Gotta stick with my modest ground-looking so called "stupid" walk. It's a lot more comfortable than it looks.
red-bot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely feels more comfortable. I have to actively think about making the change most of the time. Don't worry about your classmates. Kids are fucking stupid and cruel. Correcting your posture doesn't mean you need to look like Vince McMahon. But correcting your posture will make you feel more confident and make you exude confidence. Here's a Ted Talk about the power of posture.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:02:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man, you definitely made me feel better, and thanks for the link.
red-bot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a problem, man! Make sure to check out my edit in my original comment. Some other redditors pointed out an instructional video for how you can correct your posture. Good luck to you :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best advice I ever got was "walking like you're wearing a cape"
I'm not sure if it's because I keep my shoulders back, but in recent months I've noticed my back has been feeling very uncomfortable. Probably not the right place to post this, but any idea what it could be?
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea, and I'm not a professional, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I'd ask you what your body type is like and what your exercise life is like. I don't think it's likely to just be your posture if you're already maintaining a decent posture. Maybe you're just trying too hard with the corrected posture? Are you carrying heavy things, like a backpack, a lot?
Even though I haven't lifted in the last couple weeks, I am usually training very intensely 4x a week. I do feel like sometimes I think about my posture, so it could be that I'm over-correcting it? I'm 5'9", 155 lbs, with about 8-9% BF, so I'm in pretty good shape. Sometimes I feel like thinking about my back makes it even more uncomfortable, but I can't help it!
stel27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulders back head floating above the centerline of the middle of your body; walking as if you are being pulled by your pubes, bottom of the core lightly, constantly engaged.
My Pilates teacher taught me how to walk at 35 years of age; never too late.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy deadlifts and squats will help you attain all of the above.
don't stare at the ground all the time as you walk
You will get shit on your boots really soon.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously look down when you need to be careful about where you're stepping and use common sense. Where are you walking that you constantly need to worry about shit on the ground??
Where are you walking that you constantly need to worry about shit on the ground??
In a city where people dont bother cleaning sidewalks after their dogs.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, shit..
Drudicta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put your damn shoulders back
This actually hurts my lower back, a lot. Just stand up straight man.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For people who have problems slouching, putting your shoulders back just means to stand up straight. If you already have good posture, you shouldn't have to worry about putting your shoulders back more.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stare at the ground because I trip on air.
zhytwos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretend to be confident. Whether you have high self-esteem or not, other people seeing you confident is a definite +1. As a bonus, eventually you won't have to pretend anymore.
But that's not pretending to be confident. Confidence is not always being right. It's knowing who you are and what you're capable of. Say you're in some fuck-all meeting with the head of another department and they ask you question you're not sure of. Don't hesitate to say you're not 100% and that you'll get back to them after the meeting. Not hem and haw and try some obvious redirect tactic or something.
Being confident means you're okay with being wrong in front of people because you know that doesn't change who you are or what you're capable of.
Perfect. Confidence isn't about swinging your dick around. It's being self-aware and respectful of the people around you, respectful enough to know that you don't know it all, and being happy to admit it. It's about knowing your strengths and flaws and playing to both in the right situation - voicing your opinion when you know something, asking questions when you don't and being prepared to learn if your ideas are challenged. Honest self assessment and adjustment is the key to becoming the sort of person that other people respect.
eazolan ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:11:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We...we can still swing our dicks around, right?
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence isn't never failing, it's knowing that failing is ok.
triethan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:50:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But.. You know.. After the meeting you can still swing your dick around..my mouth
derefr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's not that you're always right, but it's closeโit's that you're always high-status. Confidence is basically acting like nothing you or anybody else does can take away the respect people give you.
When you're high-status, it's okay to be wrong, or to fuck up. Imagine the way you would react to fucking up if you knew people were not allowed to think less of you for fucking up. You'd laugh it off and move on, right? Maybe get someone to fix it, or volunteer to fix itโbut only because it needs fixing, not because you're now suddenly "in trouble" and have to absolve yourself by fixing it. That's how a confident person fucks up.
If you have trouble picturing this, picture an entitled personโa rich prince who thinks the world owes them everything. Joffrey Baratheon, say. But now picture them nice, and gentle. Same opinion about the worldโthat nothing the world says can make them less important/on top/etc. than they currently are, so none of it really matters too muchโbut now covered in a layer of humility and empathy and delight in making other people happy. That's confidence.
The alternative having a low self esteem or being a bit of a downer?
I would rather hang out with someone who is self conscious or a little depressing than someone acting like a cocky asshole. Sure confidence is great, but there's a fine line between confidence and cockiness
Matter of preference I guess. I don't have patience for depressing people and I don't see value in being any more self conscious than is necessary. Self aware is good but being self conscious is like wearing a straight jacket, sure it protects you from yourself but it tends to just be restrictive.
gigem_07 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:07:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some science behind "fake it 'til you make it". Also pretty cool how our body language affects our own brain just as much if not more than it affects others' perception of us.
On that note, don't confuse being confident with being a douche. Just speak up in conversations, laugh a little more, etc. Confidence is just being sure of yourself and being natural in any environment.
i never used fake it till you make it, always act it till you are it for me. Think about it, if youre faking being an awesome mountain biker and youre pulling 360's you arnt faking shit! So youre acting like the biker until you become one. Just my way of thinking
But for the love of all things logical, eventually be the part instead of an actor. American Idol was the best case of "fake it until you make it" gone horribly hilarious.
hthu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:11:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Head up, shoulders back, clear voice. I dont think i have ever came across as shy, i dont count myself low confidence. I recommend working out though. It helps :)
eksyneet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'd do that if i could but i just can't help the physical reaction! it only kicks in in more extreme situations, like public speaking or when i'm seriously embarrassed, but when it does, there's about as much i can do as with a bout of explosive diarrhea =/
Everyone is nervous at public speaking! They fake not being, of course they are its not natural. Haha well mate next time you get nervous just remember that you told reddit you have explosive diarrhea.. if you can do that you can do anything
1pptouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I went to see the new Star Wars movie, a Kung PubPanda commercial was on before. One of the characters said something like:
If you don't do more than you can, you'll never be more than you are.
It stuck with me.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I'm usually wrong?
Sinrus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence isn't about always being right. I did the "fake confidence" thing all through my last two years of high school, and it mainly involved laughing at myself and owning how terrible and incompetent I am at everything. The opposite of confident isn't "wrong", it's embarrassed. You can be confident and fuck up; your failure isn't awkward or embarrassing unless you make it that way.
It took me years of faking it to get it down pretty well. I honestly can't tell anymore if I'm actually confident now or just so good at faking it that I've fooled myself.
Tsarin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a bonus, eventually you won't have to pretend anymore.
So much this. It's also a similar principal with smile and pretend you're happy. Eventually you won't have to pretend anymore. You become the person you portray yourself as.
Sebbiie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Acting confident makes you confident. Smiling makes you happier. And nothing cures feeling shitty in the morning better than jumping out of bed and shouting out lies like "it's a beautiful morning" or "Good morning world, what a great day".
anumati ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First, make sure you know what confident actually looks like. It's not "I'm right, regardless". It's "I think this" and then no explaining or justifying and if someone challenges you no getting all defensive and nasty - instead actually weigh up the merits of what they said and be honest if they have a point (and if they don't, just stop at "I don't agree with that" which is just more not explaining or justifying).
These are just a few things I jotted down on a piece of paper when I was younger and I treaded it like a check list when going out to a bar. It worked well for me :D
Or when you can't be confident, be genuinely humble. A lot of low-self-esteemy people seem awfully vain and self-involved, they make everything about them. Like if they see an impressive work of art, the only thing they have to say is "I can't make art that good ::sadface:: ...."
It's attractive when someone humbly accepts their limitations, and does not let their limitations be a blow to their ego. Instead of being like "poor me, I'm not perfect!", they are attitude is more like "It is what it is."
I do this and people always tell me I'm "always in good mood" and that makes them feel better. It's really just that I know I can't fix a lot of things that bother me so I mentally tell them to piss off. I only get frustrated with things I can fix and have influence on. So overall I'm always pretty confident and in a good mood. However, when I get pissed off I'll put you through a freaking wall.
i know someone who is confident regardless of the situation. he usually ends up in deep shit, or blame someone else. many people like to be around him, but if you can see through his lies, he is extremely unpleasant to be around.
This is hard as fucking piss to do without looking like a total fucking jack wagon that is trying way too hard. Luckily I either have it or I don't, and the days/times when I have it are naturally occurring! ^ _ ^
I don't like this advice. In my experience, this advice is doled out in areas that are filled with stress and people bottling it up. About a year ago, I went to a crisis ward where they take in people who had attempted suicide. The group I had of about 20 adults between 18-50, including myself, had one common reason for being there:
We needed to look strong for other people. So we pretended to be confident, by never saying anything to anyone.
So no, I don't like one bit of this advice. I think it's highly toxic.
Be confident. Just be like "I know what an airplane is!" - eugene mirman
heres another.
"Women love danger. If they could, they'd just date a fire."
mwashu66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought my older brother was this cool, super aloof and confident guy, and always wanted to be just like him.
Two years ago, I told him that's how I always viewed him growing up and he was shocked. Apparently he was always super shy. But from the outside, he didn't look shy, he looked confident. The kinda kid that didn't need to be the center of attention to feel good about himself.
Ancel3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mother's motto is "Fake it 'till you make it". You would be surprised how far you can bullshit yourself into something if you just look like you're supposed to be there.
Yeah like the chick I met on NYE who I acted super confident to and now I have a date tomorrow for lunch. Now that we've talked and I learned more about her and realize she is completely out of my league. All I have to do is keep up this act for the rest of our relationship. Shouldn't be a problem.
Yeah but... faking it is kind of a tell in itself. It's not as easy as you might think to be convincing. What I really find sad is when you meet somebody who's obviously shaking in their boots nervous as hell, but they're trying so damn hard to look normal that they actually start looking more nervous. Stuff like, laughing way too much at every chance they can get, is a sign of insecurity. And people will judge you for it. They'll either feel sorry for you, or they'll immediately rule you out as weak. Beta. And the worst thing is there's no way to get better at being social, something you're probably terrified of in the first place, except for being social. A real Catch-22.
I for one would love if anyone had any suggestions to this conundrum.
BethWNYX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not going to be a sleazy fake. I hear this advice all the time. It's disingenuous.
I want to append a warning to the "fake it 'til you make it" advice. I spent a lot of time faking it, and I did such a good job people believed it completely. I made a ton of new friends, got a great-on-paper boyfriend, went to tons of parties (some of which I threw). There was always something to do on Saturday nights, was the most popular person in any room I entered.
And I grew to hate them all, because I was spending so much time on faking it there wasn't any time left to, well, make it. I had to sacrifice a lot (including the boyfriend) to actually figure out what mattered, what made me feel good about myself, and how to get that. I still have some of the friends and others will be there when I'm ready, so that's good. My life's a lot less sexy/glamorous than it used to be and I do miss how much fun I had, but I'm so much prouder of myself and less willing to put up with shit that makes me miserable, so I think it'll be worth it in the end.
Dressing a little nicer helps a lot. I'm usually just a T-shirt and jeans kinda guy, so when I do khakis and a button up, people usually take notice. Nothing too fancy, but it seems to have an effect.
Haha that's actually a real lesson. I remember in my acting class I had a romance scene with a woman I thought was hilarious and awesome, but always had her hair up.
Then on the day of our scene she let it down and she had this incredible mane of elbow length black hair. It was like a totally different person.
[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 23:44:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom always taught me to make my make-up look very down to earth and natural most of the time. And then when I do myself up more for special occasions, there's that wow-factor :)
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:25:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Umm, I can't do this because I'm completely hideous without makeup.
TNUGS ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 03:07:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know you, but that's probably not true.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:15:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, that's the thing, it doesn't mean without :) for me personally the more casual make-up is concealer for under the eyes (makes a huge difference), some powder on the eyelids, a little eyeliner and mascara.
Sometimes I'll put some shadow on too, but nothing too bold. Overall it makes me look a ton better, but not like I'm wearing a bunch of make-up.
wewora ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:11:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do people think that? I mean, you weren't born wearing makeup. At what point did you start thinking you looked ugly without it?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:37:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugly people exist, saying that it's something only in their head is something pretty girls say because they can't empathize with the fact that lots of women don't look great without makeup.
wewora ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:08:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. That's a new perspective for me. Thanks. But I do honestly wonder when people start to consider themselves ugly.
My girlfriend actually has some pigmentation around her right eye and cheek, she always hated it. Said it made her feel horrible.
while I on the other hand thought it was actually super cute, and thought it truly was unique and super cute.
Don't know if that really helps you, but similar. It completely killed her self confidence, while the guy crushing on her thought it was adorable.
So wear it with pride. :D It's what makes you....YOU.
Nixie9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not always 'ugly', just sub optimal. I don't look shit without make up, I have the odd fb profile picture without it, but generally, I look way better with a bit of slap on.
If I'd never seen myself with it on then I'd not care, but since I have, I feel comparatively ugly without.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called the "no make-up" makeup look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am one of those persons. I have dressed to impress almost every day of my social life and in turn it has been the norm when people see me. Problem is that now if I dress in jeans and a T then people say I look "dirty" and if I dress in a suit then I look weird.
in my previous job I always wore khakis and a button up. this new workplace is more lax so I just wear pants and a polo but the few times I wore button ups I got a lot of compliments
As a tshirt and jeans gal, this is my life. My favorite reaction was when I worked for a fine dining place. As a server my uniform was a black fitted button up, black dress pants, and black shoes with my hair in a tight bun, and this is how my coworkers and patrons saw me pretty much every day. I came in for the first time as a supervisor and basically all I did was wear my hair in a looser but stylish updo, put a colorful lace top under the same old black button-up, and threw on some lip gloss and pumps instead of food service crocs. Seriously an extra 10 minutes worth of effort, if that. Everyone freaked out. "Why don't you do this more often?!" Because I'm lazy. And I married a guy who goes for the tshirt look, so long as I maintain basic hygiene I get laid.
I have this problem currently. I've been in a coat of tails with a top hat and cane for the past two years. I've become invisible again and I don't know where to go from here.
Start the cycle over. Stop shaving and showering, wear clothes that are bland and don't fit well, and bite the bullet for about six months. Then when you put on the khakis and button up again the world will be none the wiser.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:30:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No kidding, girl in one of my classes usually wears baggy jeans and tshirts, but yesterday she wore a skirt and nice blouse and did her hair. I couldn't stop looking at her, she looked incredible.
That's kind of my fashion sense in a nut shell. I love bumming it, but that means when I throw on a pair of heels or some lipstick, all eyes are on me.
I try to explain this to my mom but she's not havin it
SantiGE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. This is basically how I dress all the time, and while people don't tell me that I look good "today", I've been told quite a few times that I'm the one that dresses the best at work.
I take no pride in that, as I simply wear button-down shirts, sweaters and nicely cut jeans most of the time, but people do notice I make an effort to look presentable.
vj7usa ยท 2496 points ยท Posted at 14:33:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a similar note, dress to fit your body type.
Some examples: Don't be the guy that wears an overly large shirt which fits awkwardly. If you're a bit bigger in the stomach area, consider tucking your button-down shirt in - it'll make you look skinnier. Wear the right style of jeans.
[deleted] ยท 3119 points ยท Posted at 15:26:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The good ol' chub and tuck
[deleted] ยท 2132 points ยท Posted at 17:18:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, Ethan, great boobs! Keep them up. Proud of you!
[deleted] ยท 307 points ยท Posted at 18:46:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I always thought she said Moves....
EDIT: i can't tell from the 10+ replies, are you guys SURE she does?
[deleted] ยท 623 points ยท Posted at 19:13:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you really think Michelle fucking Obama would say "boobs" publicly to a guy to compliment him?
Sempere ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, she's the First Lady. She'd scream "Nice tits!"
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 19:14:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you really think Michelle fucking Obama
Well, if Michelle is fucking Obama publicly, I wouldn't be surprised.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*moves
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:13:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well no shit
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:19:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why the fuck would op say boobs? Its not funny and doesn't make sense in context
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it sounds like she says boobs.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't really, anyways it's well known that its moves
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you have to admit it at least sounds like moobs.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:20:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ill give you moobs
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thx bb ;)
[deleted] ยท 263 points ยท Posted at 16:36:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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GDudzz ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 16:49:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen the seductive chub and peek?
RevMick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never noticed this until I moved to the south. Suddenly it's acceptable to have a giant lower center tit flopping out from under your shirt and over your fly. WTF!
I can't view the image (imgur is blocked at work) but I think I know exactly what it is: a person whose shirt is tucked in, but their gut is still hanging over their belt, so really you're just seeing exactly how fat they are. How close was I?
That used to be me, and I've gotta say, if your options are to tuck your shirt around your gut or leave the shirt untucked, leave it untucked. Maybe baggy doesn't look great, but the gut-tuck looks worse.
jsellout ยท 960 points ยท Posted at 19:28:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How close was I?
Pretty damn close.
Ormagan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:32:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing he missed was that the guy wasn't wearing a belt, but that's just nitpicking really.
NKHdad ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:48:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he truly couldn't see that image, his description is incredible. I think by "hanging over the belt" he basically implied belt-line so I'll allow it.
Ormagan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:03:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, it's one of those things that you can tell he either has personal experience with the effect, or he knows someone who fits that description.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:35:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you meant to type, "Spot on."
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:47:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gqgk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:28:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guessed right, but as someone else mentioned it's because the pants are too tight.
RaitoGG ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:39:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So they're supposed to wear jeans that are as wide as their stomach? That doesn't make any sense. If you're chubby, your stomach will almost always be wider than your legs and hips. It will always look like that.
gqgk ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:50:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a balance. In that picture the guy is practically being strangled by his pants.
RaitoGG ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:53:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine has a lot of chub on his stomach and tucks in his shirt into his jogging pants sometimes. He looks like 20% fatter when he does it. Don't tell me pants as baggy as those are too thin.
gqgk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:10:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL. Into running pants? Again. Running pants and jeans and dress pants are not the same. We're talking about a button down shirt. Nothing should ever be tucked into running pants unless you want to look like erkle. Go look at MFA for how what I'm saying actually works instead of talking about obscure corner cases that nobody mentioned but you.
RaitoGG ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:13:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Show me one guy with a lot of gut who looks skinnier with a shirt tucked in than out and I'll believe it.
vj7usa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:44:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I said a little gut, not a lot - probably more like a beer belly. Walk around any office in corporate America and I guarantee you those slim looking guys in suits or the business casual doesn't have a six pack going.
Granted, it's clearly not the same outfit that'd be a bit harder to find sorry I think something very important to notice is where his pants are sitting in the 2 as well. In the suit, they're actually probably sitting on/near his waist NOT his hips something most casual mens clothing doesn't do. How'd I do /u/thoggins ?
thoggins ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:29:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that there is a certain chance his weight between the first two pictures fluctuated quite a bit. Even if it didn't, though, your point of waist vs. hips is pretty important. You don't get a lot of clothes off the rack that will fit on your waist comfortably.
Being a celebrity probably helped him get access to well-fit trousers that sat in the right place. The rest of us aren't generally so lucky, so tucking a shirt in, when we've got enough gut, makes us look like the fat slobs we are.
On that basis I've decided to disappoint regarding the eating of any footwear.
If the pants are worn at the hip - not the waist - probably shouldn't be tucked in if you've got more than a little muffin top, and pants that made to wear at the waist aren't typically casual wear for men.
honestly though, same goes for women - there's a reason there's a lot of highwaisted stuff for women. Even w/o a tucked in shirt it shows wide hips instead of gut. In theory at least.
No matter what being in healthy shape will make even the best/worst fit look better.
thoggins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:44:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll eat my shoes if anyone can actually prove this.
Lol @ MFA. The only place on the planet that goes full rainman over boat shoes and the difference between charcoal and charred coal
folderol ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:25:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right but this person is also not slightly bigger. The pants are supposed to be worn closer to the naval than the hips. When I tuck in it does look better because my pants sit in the right spot. Plus my gut isn't quite that big.
The pants are supposed to be worn closer to the naval than the hips
I tried to get my husband to buy pants that would do that (he's got a bit of a gut that hangs over), but he didn't believe it would work. Granted, we were looking at dept. store jeans, so not exactly the best fitting in the first place. Any advice or where I could go for advice?
bp92009 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:28:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men's Warehouse.
I've found that jeans there cost more, but last far longer.
I just got 2 new pairs, replacing an older pair that I wore for close to 2 years. Yeah, they cost $75, but they are jeans that you can wear to work, around the house, or out to various places.
High Quality and good looking clothing is better to cheaper clothes that wear out faster (a $100 purchase once a year costs less than 4 $30 purchases).
Thank you. Maybe I'll save up and get a trip to MWH for him as a birthday gift. I don't think he would splurge on himself like that. Especially since he wants to lose weight, he'd probably have the mindset that he should wait to spend money on good clothes until he's lost weight. I'm a believer that I want to wear clothes that fit and look good now and I want that for him too.
bp92009 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing that may convince him is that Jeans with a belt can drop several sizes without an issue. Unless he's going to drop 4-6 sizes in a very short period of time, it's generally not an issue.
That was what belts were designed for. Holding pants up that were too big/loose to fit normally. Belts can be used as a sort of "Measuring Stick" as you have several holes in the belt that you can use as the basis for how much you have lost.
Think of it this way, get good clothes now, that look even better in the future. Even going down a single belt hole would be a big morale boost that keeps things going ("Yes, I've got actual, tangible proof, that I've lost weight, and the goal is to get to the point where I NEED new pants because the old ones are too big")
Nasdasd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pants should not go over a gut, gut should hang over pants
folderol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't wear jeans much. For everything else people often suggest tailoring. /r/MFA takes some flack sometimes but that's where I usually get my advice.
I disagree, I think there's a good midway. Untucked, and a dress shirt would look like a loose dress. A looser tuck would make it look neater without emphasizing the gut.
xrimane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think that, because it just seemed to accentuate the body, but I changed my opinion. Actually, everybody sees how fat you are anyway. If you tuck it in, you a) assume and thus project more confidence, b) actually take up less room as if you hide your body behind curtains and c) clothes hanging around look like they'd get in the way when you move, so tucking them in looks like you're more active.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The gut tuck doesn't look as bad when your gut starts hanging out from under your button up/t-shirt/sweater.
Nasdasd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh fat guy here who wears button downs. The tuck is still important. You get a bit larger shirt and let it be a bit baggy. It helps you not look like shit. An untucked shirt at overweight looks really shitty.
They block "personal file storage" sites, presumably to prevent you from uploading customer credit card numbers or something like that. It's an ISO 9001 compliance thing, I think.
And every now and then a Reddit thread will get blocked because someone mentioned marijuana, but that's just the web filter being overzealous.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fat guy checking in and there's a fantastic third option, depending on your body type: Get bigger pants.
My favourite pair of pants is a 46 in the waist. That doesn't sit at my hips, it goes comfortably around my entire gut and sits at my natural waist. I can ratchet it down with a belt so that it won't slide down uncomfortably over my love handles, or hang them from my shoulders with suspenders.
Now of course, you're going to look a little more olde timey with your pants so high, so you'll have to be okay with that. Also it probably doesn't work with jeans, I wear slacks all the time as a matter of habit. Good occasion to start wearing vests if you're into that. I get away with it mostly because I've got kind of a tall torso, all things considered.
I'm a big guy too, but have been getting into shape over the last few months (lost 70 lbs so far!) Anyway, the current solution I've been using for the gut tuck is to wear a slightly snug fitting sweater over my tucked in dress shirt. It's a perfect style for Fall and Winter.
Or just wear your pants where they're supposed to be, just below your hips. There comes a point in a fat man's life where he has to decide whether his pants fasten above or before his fat shelf and he usually chooses below because above makes his pants 4 sizes bigger but then you have this problem.
I have friends slightly smaller than me that look fatter because they do this. I wear my pants around my waist, that is, my belt crosses my navel. They wear theirs below their "fat fold" so even though they're the same size as me, they can think they're a 38" waist rather than closer to 50". The result of which is that despite being a big guy I still look decent with a tucked in shirt, but they look like slobs in the same outfit.
Everyone is saying it's because his pants are too tight, but honestly hes just got a big belly. I think what the person you responded to meant was that for those at a healthy weight, but perhaps a little excess fat and less muscle definition, tucking in provides a more slimming look, which is true.
Speaking as a heavier girl, this is something I taught a few male friends of mine who are huskier.
1) Go to Old Navy.
2) Go try on women's jeans. Find a pair that settles higher up on your waist and is just a hair too tight (this is important. they tent to lose some of their snugness during the day). Make sure they are a nice dark blue.
3) Tuck your gut into the pants, this will help contain it to a certain extent and the pants will give a uniform smoothness, even if there is a gut.
4) wear a button down shirt over the pants, not tucked in. A nice dark blue and red plaid usually looks good. Roll the sleeves up to 3/4 length. (put a safety pin inside if you're a tragedy like I am and fail at keeping sleeves rolled up and uniform)
5) pair with a nice pair of boots (IE hiking boots or Doc Martens) a low cut uniform color sneaker (black vans) or cuff the jeans and wear with a men's wing tip in brown or dress oxford (wear some nice blue or brown dress socks with these)
You'll look like a hipster, but clean lines with a little bit of color and a laid back attitude are decent on a man. Old Navy jeans for women are super comfy and fit both genders pretty well, this look also will hide some of your weight by not breaking up the fat into easily identifiable areas, with the shirt masking some of the weight and the pants helping create one smooth line down your legs. :)
Part of the problem here is the lack of a wider leather belt and not keeping his "gig line" straight. I don't know if there is a name for it outside of the navy but a gig line is the line created by the buttons of your shirt. That should be in a straight line with your zipper. The belt will keep your jeans from creating the muffin top look by "bracing" the fabric of the belt line. If you do that, it will make you appear slimmer. It doesn't magically make you look skinny or anything but done right it will minimize it.
Yeah, the true waist might be around your belly button, but that's still not where pants go. For fat people, somehow dragging normal jeans that high up will just yield mashed genitals and this
http://i.imgur.com/RRIEiwD.jpg
If you're a bit bigger in the stomach area, consider tucking your button-down shirt in - it'll make you look skinnier.
Uh...this might work for guys who have a little bit of belly, but I've got a bit more and when I tuck in my shirt my belly it really highlights how fat I am when my gut hangs over my belt. if I leave my shirt untucked then it's harder to tell.
And yeah, I'm taking up running to fix this.
mihametl ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 21:11:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You cant outrun a bad diet. Want to lose weight? Eat less. If you're at a stage when your gut is over your belt running will just blow out your knees.
If things start to get overwhelming and you feel like you need a break, CUT EXERCISE. Diet is at least 10x more important than exercise so if you've gotta cut back on one to maintain your sanity then keep the diet going but slack on the exercise.
Whether it's strength training or cardio, the main point isn't to lose weight it's to get healthier. With ST you are trying to build muscle. With cardio you're building up your cardiovascular system, making your heart and lungs stronger, and conditioning your body to deal with the stress of running. Burning fat is an afterthought of ST and a bonus side-effect of cardio.
But diet, diet is king of weight loss. Diet is all ABOUT shedding fat and it's great at it. Diet + Time is the best equation for a healthier weight.
Nice! And please remember to keep it up, even if you can't see any results immediately. They're there and will show if you're disciplined. It's insane how much confidence you can get from eating smart and exercising as much as you're comfortable with. And then slowly start progressing into the uncomfortable zone.
I've noticed in my struggle to keep the weight off that other people see the progress before I do, and it's usually a good confidence boost if they say something out of the blue.
It's easy to see progress when you only see somebody once a week or even less frequently, and when you're not looking at them all the time. You're almost always looking at some part of yourself at least, and you probably look in a mirror multiple times per day. It's hard to see results yourself until they're really impossible to ignore.
Think of when you were a child. Did you ever notice "Hey, I'm taller now" out of the blue? Probably not. But when you look at those notches in the kitchen doorway marked with your birthday you notice that you're much taller now than you were then.
TNUGS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stick with it. try lifting too! after a few months, you can start to see progress, even if you're still losing weight.
Tehjaliz ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:39:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaactually, I've picked up running a few months ago, and very quickly I realized my mindset was starting to change to "ok, after all the efforts you've put into running, are you reaaaally sure you want to waste it by gobbling up all this shit?".
Same here. Before I started jogging & exercising last year, I'd come home exhausted and stressed and frequently reach for some not-so-healthy food to make me feel better.
Now, after jogging for a half hour and lifting some weights, I come home energized and actually crave healthier options.
Today I ran for the first time in 2 weeks and I got home feeling awesome and made a giant salad with some chick peas because I just didn't want anything unhealthy.
As someone who used to be a lot bigger but lost the weight, /r/keto was a life saver for me. I followed it closely and I did the Couch to 5K program and saw results really quickly.
dt204196 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this. My initial answer was lose weight, but if you're already at a healthy weight that wouldn't apply, and I was sure someone would have already mentioned it anyways.
But yeah, running (cardio in general) burns so FEW calories that it's really more a benefit to your overall health, but not so much your physique. Weight truly is almost entirely related to your diet; people want to fight that as much as they can, think they can keep eating the same as long as they workout, it's simply not the case.
byron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't get this position. If you run 20 miles a week that's easily 2k calories; an entire days worth!
dt204196 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you did there ;)
The problem is, you most likely didn't get overweight by eating 2k calories a day, more like 2k calories a MEAL.
Cormath ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:58:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a fellow fat guy, buy bigger pants. They should be able to sit on your belly button, if they can't go up in size until they can. Then tucking them in will look a lot better.
It's funny how some bigger people seem to have this stigma concerning their pant size. They'd rather buy 38" pants that can't go over their gut, hence making them look sloppy, than buy 48"+ pants that would fit them comfortably and look better. The arbitrary number is more important to them than how they actually look and feel. Kindof sad. (And this is coming from a big guy.)
Actually, I did it because it helped me lose weight. I figured if I kept going up in pant sizes, I'd just keep letting myself go. So I stuck at 32 and if pants didn't fit and hurt to wear, I still wore them as a reminder to stop eating so much fatty. It actually helped me lose some weight and now I'm comfy in size 30" and feel great.
I looked at it as a goldfish in a fishbowl. I'll stop eating so much if I keep feeling like shit. It worked.
That's great that it worked for you. But myself and a couple of friends have been about the same size since high school, over ten years now (actually they've gained some and I've lost some), and I've been dressing stylishly and comfortably for those ten years while they've remained dressed sloppily and uncomfortably for a decade. So mileage may vary.
Ya, I did it 10 years out and I put on some weight, and it helped me lose it. But I still dressed nicely, and part of it is that I want to look good. It all depends on what you want. Obviously you want to look decent and they don't care, or at least not enough.
I've never worn my pants over my gut. I wear them below and wear a 36. My gut hurts from hanging over. I'm gonna look for some new pants and try the over gut wear.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a big guy but I do have a bit of a beer belly and it made a world of difference to go up one pant size.
The old pant size I wore looked very tight on me and when I sat down or bent over, my belly was VERY visible. Going up a size it's a lot less in-your-face.
It was mentally hard admitting that I'm in my 30's and can't wear the same size I wore in high school, but it made me look & feel a lot better.
More important than running in losing weight is controlling your diet. Don't expect to start jogging 1-3 miles and suddenly become 10% body fat. The diet is way more important than the exercise in losing weight: it's easier to not eat 500 calories than it is to run it off.
I'm not saying you shouldn't run, running is definitely an excellent thing to do regularly, just don't get discouraged if you find running alone doesn't produce the results you're looking for, take your diet into consideration as well.
Now get out there and be the person you want to be, I'm rooting for you!
Be very careful though. Swimming makes you hungry as hell, because you work out more muscles (if you do it right). And if you don't control your eating afterwards, you'll end up eating even more and gaining weight. Source: me after swimming a mile every other day. I gained 5-7 pounds in a month. Some of that was definitely muscle, I could see it in my legs and shoulders, but the rest was fat. All my fault though, I'd get home after working out and I'd destroy the kitchen, something that didn't happen on my normally sedentary life. You can definitely gain weight even if you just eat proteins and veggies, which is what I mostly do. Keep tabs on it!
But I 100% agree that swimming is better than running for someone who's overweight or obese. Don't destroy your knees/feet!
Hate to be this guy but if you really want to do something about it then running won't be enough if you don't change your diet. As mentioned in this threat cutting soda for water is an amazing start.
I can not emphasize how import diet adjustments are. Keep track of how much you eat and try cutting out soda or other sugary drinks (Juice is common. Surprisingly sugary.)
Changing your diet will work a lot more effectively than just running. Hell, you may not even have to run if you eat filling foods and keep a caloric deficit.
svesrujm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:14:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Running won't fix that.
[deleted] ยท 269 points ยท Posted at 17:53:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's tough for us strangely shaped males. I wear a totally normal dress shirt size you can find virtually anywhere, but my neck needs to be 17.5" for me to button it closed and wear a tie.
You can't find a shirt in my size that has anything more than maybe 16.25" around the neck. I deliberately go to the Big and Tall stores to get the correct neck size and then have to get the bodies tailored to fit. Expensive.
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t1smth30 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:58:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same size, minus a half inch in the neck, same problem. Same problem, all of the store have big and tall. Nothing for someone who's just tall, and especially fitted right. Online is always the answer.
Same. When I found out that the store I work for carries a 36F online, I ordered 4. It's not cheap, but I want fitting bras, dammit. Now I gotta wait for them to ship.
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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:00:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 6' and have a 6'4.5" wingspan, so my ape index is a little rediculous. I just roll all sleeves up to avoid the tailor. Some day I will go that route, but it's a completely accepted look.
I have this issue as well. If it fits well in the waist it is always wag too tight on my ass and thighs. If it fits my lags, then I have like 3 inches of extra waist.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:58:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm opposite. I'm a woman with a high waist and straight hips and no ass. It's not flat really it just doesn't smile as much as It used to.
Women's clothing is so inconsistent in measurement and sizing, but if I find pants that fit in the legs and hips and don't give me extra folds in the crotch, they are usually too tight in the waist. Fit in the waist, the ass sags.
I usually use a small elastic band around the button hole to secure my pants. The zipper still closes, but that extra inch or two flexibility eliminates a lot of muffin top.
megagreg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After years of cycling I have this problem too. I need fat-guy pants with a 32" waist and a 36" leg.
I cycle a lot too and also have the ghetto booty + big thigh problem. I played soccer for years growing up as well, so it's basically all self-inflicted :(
megagreg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, you're like a combination of me, the cyclist, and my wife, the soccer player. We figure our kids will either be track cyclists, speed skaters or trampolinists.
Not a Cyclist but almost same issue with 32" legs and a 36"-38" with massive thighs and calves. Jeans that fit all around great i have found 2 pairs in 5 years maybe... My thighs are and calves are sculpted like a statue of a Greek god
I feel your pain! broad shoulders and chest with small gut but long torso so xl fits a little tight up top but not enough length and B&T are generally to open or big. (XLT) so i have to suffer the 2xl and look a little fatter than i am
Not only do they fit better, you get to pick out some awesome color or pattern combos, get your initials embroidered on them and even french cuffs. I get compliments from colleagues every time I wear my button downs instead of polos. I pay $30 a piece on a Hong Kong business trips from a master tailor a local customer recommended me to.
Bonus, I get my jeans hemmed too. I'm in between the standard sizes of 30 and 32 inseam, more like a 31 which I can never find.
Next up I need to find size 14 socks instead of 11-13 or 15-17.
anduin1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother brought a bunch of shirts he had tailored while in Hong Kong. They fit him great and the material is top notch.
There are a bunch of websites that sell bespoke (custom made) shirts that will cost you the same or less as buying big and tailoring down, and will look a lot nicer. I don't want to make a recommendation because the place I got mine shut down, but googling "bespoke shirts" will hook you up with options.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
might be cheaper at this point to go with a made-to-measure place like proper cloth
I'm 5'6, muscular- around 195lbs, and have a 17.5" neck too. I hate renting tuxes. last one I got fitted for, he did the neck last, I said "and this is where the shirt will hang to my knees" He chuckled and measured me and with a nearly pitiful look on his face said "I'm sorry"
Just order from a company like Charles Tyrwhitt online probably cheaper when they have a sale then what you pay in stores. You can basically order a custom made shirt. These are really nice shirts.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Custom made shirts? They're really not that expensive and will probably look a lot better than tailored big and tall shirts.
I'm somewhat similar. To get a fitted shirt that actually fits, the neck is too small. So I currently use two of these for the neck collar (a tie covers them up), and then one on my left wrist to accommodate an over sized watch. This way the shirt fits like it should everywhere, and no compromise in fit has to be made.
The problem here is that I have such odd proportions that what fits my shoulders leaves me swimming in the torso/stomach and what fits my stomach traps my arms to my sides. Then there's the problem of finding long enough arm lengths to for my arms. Then there's the matter of finding 30:36 jeans/pants.
Shirts that are tight around or under the arms make me uncomfortable (and trigger the sweat waterworks), so I tend to dress for a size or two larger than I am. Comfy in a loose shirt is better than looking like I'm about to be investigated by the IRS in a tight one.
My husband has a problem with this, he's got a long torso and has trouble finding shirts that are long enough. Usually the ones that are long enough, are also gigantically wide and make him look like he's swimming. There's no big and tall near us, so he doesn't really have any options. And you're absolutely right, he looks like he doesn't know how to dress simply because he can't find shirts that fit
I got some shirts fitted while I was interviewing for jobs. Got a job where I sit at a desk all day, and now those shirts are snug, look awkward and are uncomfortable. Nothing looks worse than wearing clothes you don't fit in, and getting close fitting clothes puts you in that state more quickly. I am losing weight, but, in the meantime, I have shirts I can't wear.
arclathe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in average shape, a little chubby around the middle but I can't get away with a nonfitted button up shirt. Sometimes it will look okay from the front but then I turn to the side and oh 15 feet of extra material just hanging straight out of my back. How does this look good on anyone besides those going for that 90s look.
I know a few guys at work who do this. They're skinny guys but they buy these massive billowing dress shirts that are obviously like 2-3 sizes too big in the chest.
I want to pull them aside and be like "dude, slim fit exists for guys like you".
Ashuvain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every goddamn button up shirt I try is the wrong size. I am slim and of short-average height, and the shirts I try are either way too long (and I don't want to tuck my shirts in) or too baggy. No exceptions.
People don't know their sizes for shirts or how it should fit....ESPECIALLY sleeves my god people. With your arm at your side your shirt cuff should sit no lower then the top bone of your thumb, the knuckle. The sleeve seem of the shoulders end at the edge of your collar bone NOT the meat of your shoulder. Same shit with suit jackets. Sleeve seem EDGE OF COLLAR BONE not shoulder. This fit is absolutely key as you can't tailor this part of a jacket. With the top button buttoned slide your right hand under the jacket onto your chest, palm down, hand open, and then clench your fingers into fist. That is the maximum space there should be any more and the jacket must be tailored and brought in. Jacket sleeves sit at the top of the wrist brushing the palm and exposing about 1/4 inch of shirt.
Mother of god does it look bad when men don't wear suits or button ups properly.
If you are tall and in good shape, they don't make the right size. If you are to tall to fit a large/34 inch sleeve, eeevverything is a parachute.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:55 on January 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get exactly what you mean, but those of us with "strange" body types tend to have trouble finding well fitting clothes. I'm short and stocky. Most of the clothes made for people my height are also made for people that aren't as "thick." I'm not chunky, but my shoulders are a bit wide. On top of that, I need a 29-30 in the waist, but most of the pants made in my length tend to be too small in the waist. It's a pain in the ass and probably most of the reason I wear the same clothes for years.
Same with pants. My friends all have athletic legs that would look great in slimmer or tapered jeans. It breaks my heart when they wear relaxed fit dad jeans instead. I'd kill to fit into some 511s.
RVelts ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:32:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I run a ton (40+ miles a week) and lift at the gym on the other days. I'm very fit and athletic, so buying Jeans are difficult. Usually I pick up a size 32 and it's just right on the waist, and potentially even baggy below my knees, but my thighs are large and hard to fit into. Levi 511 are tiny and I wouldn't wear those unless I was very skinny and unathletic. 514 is usually good for most people, but again too tight on me and most other people who do a lot of running but still lift weights.
I finally went to Banana Republic and got a pair of their "regular/straight" jeans. They were snug for a little while but loosened up over a week or two of wearing them to work. Much better now. The waist is actually a little loose (I got a size 33) but I wear a belt and it's good.
I have the same problem but it's because my thighs are just fat. I wear the 541, which has more generous thighs but tapers at the knee, and I was able to find some with I guess some spandex in the denim so they're stretchy and comfortable.
RVelts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard good things about the 541 as well. I didn't get a chance to try on any Levi's before I found the pair I ended up buying. Maybe for my next pair of jeans... next year...
That's funny, I had the exact same problem and I just picked up some 33/30 Banana Republic jeans. Like you said, a bit loose on the waist, but for once I have jeans that fit!
rmphys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you tried Levi's 513. They are a bit bigger in the waist and ass but skinnier in the legs.
RVelts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those seem too slim based on the name. 513 is Slim Straight. 513 is just Straight.
I want to know where they even find relaxed fit jeans that are actually loose. I can barely squeeze my thighs into any pair with a small enough waist. (And the few fits I've seen that accommodate both taper too much and look line girls' jeans to me.)
rmphys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
511's are just a little too tight in the ass for me, but damn I love my 513's!
So ladies get dresses but men can't get breezy shirts? It's the same concept, that feeling of not wearing clothes while still actually wearing clothes.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:12:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yep, it's not fair, but that's how it is.
estafan7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have the downside of a metabolism that allows me to change weight really fast. I get fat, then lose weight all the time. The worst part is trying to find nice fitting clothes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The other problem with being in good shape/athletic is clothes get more expensive if you want them to fit you properly.
I used to be able to wear $20-30 button ups that were classic fit. Now I gotta have slim fit/tailor fit and that's almost always going to cost more.
Its nice though, knowing I need a shirt that is 'slim fit'.
rolata ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:30:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
on a side note: not every fashion trend will suit your body type. What looks good on a mannequin may or may not look good on you. I have seen mroe often than not, women in particular buying a dress that "looks so pretty". What they need to consider is will they look prettier after wearing it or not
I work in an op shop and so many women come in buying things that are not good for their body types and make them look awkward just because it fits. We literally teach our regulars how to shop for their body type.
I love flannels for this. If I wanna hide my stomach I just put a shirt on underneath it and only button up the bottom few buttons.
ROO3D ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:13:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear the right style of jeans
Not totally sure what you mean by this, expand?
Or is it as simple as using jeans that fit body type?
tamor911 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:30:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure jeans fit well (i.e. not too loose or too tight around the waist or thighs). Tapered or slim fit jeans from the knee down are in style right now but that's subjective. Also make sure the jeans aren't too long or short. As for the color, dark indigo washes are more in style compared to lighter stonewashed ones.
mkosmo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On this note: guys, please get more than one pair of shoes. Nothing ruins a nice outfit faster than a beat-up old pair of black runners or shoes that don't match the style you're wearing (eg: if you're wearing dress pants match them with a pair of loafers). It's not going to make you any less manly if you have a few pairs of shoes.
depends. If its cool and you look good wearing it, who gives a fuck if something is a little big. Its when you wear shit thats too fitted that looks really dumb
At 6' and 145 soaking wet, all shirts are overly large and fit awkwardly or don't have long enough sleeves. Don't even get me started on finding pants with the right measurements.
What I need to do is date a tailor.
pogrmman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the same build with a 6' 3" wingspan -- any shirt that fits my torso had ridiculously small sleeves.
Drudicta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been buying the "in" clothes from last summer, and they are all REALLY long. But they fit close to my chest, and I can't buy a smaller size. It's weird.
fritopie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Imo "dress a little nicer" is hard for a lot of people to grasp. What's considered nice varies a lot from person to person in a lot of different ways. Fit, however, is a pretty solid thing. Go look up how a shirt or pair of pants is supposed to fit. That part isn't hard. The "hard" part is searching in the stores for items that fit you right. Also, taking some of your nicer quality clothes to a tailor is a big help. Not only will they make sure your shit fits you right, but they can give good solid advice on fit and shapes specifically for you.
How about tall guys? If i get a large shirt its not baggy but doesn't cover my stomach correctly. If I get an xl shirt it covers me but it looks horrible and baggy.
I've never heard that to be true, the chub n tuck thing. I need to keep my shirt tucked for work and it absolutely makes me look heavier than I am. It seems like anyone who isn't totally slim waisted automatically looks paunchy when the shirt is tucked.
vj7usa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think this too but I bought a pair of dress pants that are a bit stretchable and about one size bigger as well as a nice dress shirt that wasn't slim fitted but covers the area well. Now people think I'm "skinny" even though I clearly have a beer belly when I have my shirt off.
I wear a lot of flannel patterned shirts, should I tuck them in anyway? People always shocked when I tell them I'm overweight (when I don't really look the part when I dress the way I normally do).
Flannel patterned or actually flannel? Flannel shirts are pretty casual and in general aren't meant to be tucked in, but if you're just talking about plaid shirts then they can be worn either tucked in or not depending on the formality of the outfit.
Yes! Came here to say something similar. Wear clothes that actually fit you. It makes a huge difference. I've seen guys that are overweight look better by wearing jeans that fit and an untucked button up shirt that fits. Nice shoes too.
I don't know. I do like my slightly baggy shirts. It gives me room to feel comfortable. Plus a "long fit" shirt is actually in style now. It's just a regular shirt that hangs a little low. I do get what you're saying thought. There is a fine line between a little big and too big to look normal
Speaking of shirts that fit awkwardly, does anyone here wear St. John's Bay flannels? They're nice material with nice patterns, but they fit awkward as fudge. Like they have wide bottoms. I just got a batch of them for Christmas and was wondering if anyone felt the same. I'm afraid to ask /r/malefashionadvice.
Just to play devil's advocate my boss has a huge gut and wears shirts 2 sizes too small and tucks his shirt in. It's really awkward looking so be careful with this one.
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, can't do it with shirts that are too small if you want to pull this off
Another level to this:
Clothes can be labeled your size and might be long enough in the arms and to the waist but still might not looks like they fit you because, well I'm not sure how to put this but they're made for someone heavier than you, so there's extra material. I've noticed that male t shirts from American Eagle fit me tighter and are more stylish than those from other stores
I'm not super-fashionable. At all. I stick with the basics. I'm not very formal, and rarely do I dress past "business casual." And I'm not brand-conscious. But this I do know: fit is way more important than price, or brand.
Perfectly fitting cheap clothes look much better than ill-fitting or baggy expensive clothes.
You can look like a million bucks in a cheap suit, if it fits correctly. You can look like a chump in a Armani, if you take it right off the rack and wear it ill-fitted, like you're wearing your daddy's suit.
Fit is king. Take the time to learn how to wear clothes that fit your body. Basic tailoring (nothing extreme is needed) can make such a world of difference!
I always say this to my coworkers - fit your body, not the size you think you want. A skinny girl in pants too tight will look worse vs a chubby girl in clothes that fit her body.
My go to rule is fit before brand. You could be wearing a $20 suit from Goodwill that is tailored well and you'd look better than someone wearing a $2000 dollar Armani suit that isn't tailored well
Staleina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the tucking suggestion for those that are a big bigger. I see larger individuals with shirts that are too small too often and you can see their belly poking out from underneath. Perhaps the shirt fit before than shrunk, I don't know, but it's something that draws the eye pretty quickly.
I love finding clothes that actually fit me. I'm fairly tall and way too skinny but when I find somewhat long clothes that are slim cut I often get compliments
One thing that was sort of annoying until I figured it out: If I ever bought "Straight" jeans, even though they fit my legs fine, eventually the butt area would stretch and it always looked like I had no ass, and my butt would be baggie and saggy.
Finally when I was at one store one of the employees suggested skinny jeans(which I laughed st at first), but when I tried my size on they fit really well. They're just a tad too tight on my calves, but they frame my butt and lower body SO much better than a pair of baggy jeans.
DWillows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but i love overly large clothes, they're so much comfier.
What are you on about I've seen fat guys do that and they look like a fucking ice cream cone
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When did I say fat? I said bit bigger in the stomach area, so more like a beer belly.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:25:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you're saying that guys who tuck their shirt in look like ice cream cones. A couple of coworkers and I hide our beer bellys pretty well and you can't even notice when we tuck our dress shirts in. Definitely does not look anywhere close to an "ice cream cone".
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:33:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha funny thing is I'm considered "fat" by Asian standards but normal or skinny by American standards, go figure. It's the craziest when it comes to celebrity judgments in Asian countries.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a bit bigger in the stomach area, consider tucking your button-down shirt in - it'll make you look skinnier.
This is counter-intuitive. Usually tucking in makes me feel like my fat gut is on display.
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't mean people with huge guts, just a slight beer belly. Lots of people who dress business casual buy the right shirt and are able to hide their beer belly well.
ofoot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Skinny guy here. Skinnier pants and womens button-ups serve me well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
people with pear-shaped bodies should never wear pear colored clothing... Grimace.
And get to know your local tailor/seamstress (many laundromats have one on staff if you can't find a standalone shop). Having clothes that actually fit your body makes even inexpensive items look really good.
Don't be the guy that wears an overly large shirt which fits awkwardly.
Sometimes it isn't a choice. For me, it's not that there's a belly it needs to cover, but I just have an unusually long torso. Most shirts my size just don't fit so I have to go up a size or two to prevent me from showing the top of my ass everytime I raise my arms or bend over the slightest bit. There are a few companies that make long shirts that fit better, but none of them look at all interesting. And then the problem becomes that there's just a giant tube of solid color that just looks bad.
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel ya man. I have much shorter arms than a lot of people so I have to get my nice shirts and suits tailored a lot. It costs a bit more out of pocket but it's well worth the confidence and style that comes with dressing well.
I didn't think clothes would make me feel so much better. I never really wore jeans until well into my adulthood. I was the kid that wore khaki cargo pants until his mid20s. I recently bought my first pair of jeans in well over a decade and goddamn do I look good in them. The first thing I did was trash all of the khaki clothes I owned. I feel so much more confident now because I just look better. It's an amazing difference brought on by a simple pair of jeans. I never would have expected it.
If you're a big person just accept you're going to have to get your close tailored/hemmed. You're rarely going to find clothes that fit you like they would everyone else.
As a fat guy, I disagree... tucking my shirt only accentuates my fatness as all of a sudden I have a gut hanging over my belt. I would suggest finding nice button down shirts that are styled to purposely not be tucked. Vertical line patterns are best. That way, it elongates your mid-section but doesn't let others exactly see how fat you are.
mrthbrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All shirts are either too short or too wide for me :(
Kev-Mo88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see too many people attempting to wear what they THINK looks good or what they WANT to look good, but it usually just results in showing all of their unflattering features even more. My girlfriend and I think its fun to point these out to each other when walking or sitting in areas with a lot of people (amusements parks, concerts, mall, etc) and we usually notice how often girls or woman attempt to wear booty shorts when they shouldnt be, or guys with baggy pants to their knees. lol
jargoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a bit bigger in the stomach area, consider tucking your button-down shirt in - it'll make you look skinnier.
This is one thing I really struggled with. When you have a fat buddha, you think tucking in your shirt will accentuate it. But nope, walking around with your button-down shirt untucked like a slob is what makes people notice your fat gut. It's the equivalent of going into the pool with your shirt on.
Bmandoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really just wear clothes that fit. Though this can be difficult if you're in the process of losing weight. It is striking how much of a difference properly fitting clothes make.
Nice clothes looks like shit if they don't fit. Shit close can look a LOT better if they fit right.
I've got some navy blue tee-shirt that I wear when I'm just hanging out at home or don't really care if anyone sees me. To me it's just a regular t-shirt, no fancy brand or anything like that. But my ex used to love it. She thought I looked so good in it, because well, I did look good in it. It just fit perfectly. Just the right length, just the right width.
It's not necessarily WHAT your clothes look like, its HOW they look.
Nasdasd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I hate it when guys that have a beer belly wear a shirt several sizes too big that looks like a dress to try to 'hide' it
A) Don't be ashamed of your body, some people like a gut on a man
B) If you're trying to hide it... That only draws attention to it
Umm. I never noticed how large Aziz Ansari's gut was until I saw him in a tucked in shirt
Ancel3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it looks ugly, but bigger shirts are just so damn comfortable. I'm a "big" guy, but I like to go a size up because I live in Florida and it's really annoying when your shirt sticks to your back from the sweat.
If I'm going to be indoors, then yeah, I dress right - But for a day at the park, I a big shirt is amazing.
This may often involve walking out of certain stores entirely because nothing fits well. And that's fine. Don't waste your money on clothing that doesn't fit excellently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wear 3xl tall tees every day and I ain't stoppin' for no one
Important fatshion rule: everyone already knows that you are fat, so you can either try to hide it - which never works - or you can embrace it and work with it.
Find things that fit well, that work with your contours, and that complement your body instead of burying it in fabric.
Zapsie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if I tuck the shirt in, I won't be able to hide a half-chub by draping my shirt over it, and they'll see how overly tight my khakis are
Did you know that Dockers were predominantly designed for the growing waistline of post-World War Americans? Someone had the idea that pleats help slim the figure.
That someone is an idiot. Buy a good pair of slacks and invest in a tailor. A decent one isn't that expensive.
Hell, get a credit card to Banana Republic if you're tall or average to athletic build. Use their sale days to get fantastic fitting suits and a free/discounted tailor. Seriously, it changed my professional life.
Please please for the love of god don't buy and wear button-down shirts, this is not the 80's.
tahiko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tucking the shirt in makes you look business like (depending on the shirt) but certainly not thinner
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the person. For my coworkers and I, it definitely covers up the beer belly and makes us look athletic haha
tahiko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably depends on how much youre overweight as well ;) whenever i see a rather overweight man with a tucked shirt, showing all the fatrolls i always think man you would be better off not tucking that shirt
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I don't mean like obese but just a bit of a beer belly, which is more normal than not for a guy in his 20s or 30s working in the corporate world
tahiko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, then tucking is preferable ;)
UZworm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black slacks.
Nothing but black slacks.
ALWAYS WORKS
MAG7C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coming from the (business casual) corporate world as a gravitationally challenged person, I've never been a fan of tucking in shirts, especially golf/polo shirts. I eventually started wearing bowling style shirts which have no tail & can be left untucked. I realize some people hate these but I think they look good when sized correctly and don't have lame patterns.
Some might say they look a little sloppy but I find that preferable to the stuffed sausage look. Lesser of two evils and all that. Meanwhile I'm working on the whole losing weight thing...
As a big fella with (not a brag here) huge shoulders and arms and a medium sized gut, this is is harder than I would like it to be. Designer button ups are cut for manlets, not bears. This ain't no bullshit, but I see 'Slim Cut' XXL shirts quite often. Fuck you Nordstroms!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:55:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less ur Eminem
theStork ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:04:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a bit bigger in the stomach area, consider tucking your button-down shirt in - it'll make you look skinnier.
Actually that's the opposite of what you should do. Generally speaking larger men will want to wear somewhat looser clothing to conceal their weight. When larger men tuck in their shirts, they will have stomach pudge sticking out over their pants. Leaving the shirt untucked draws less attention to your gut. For more formal situations where you need to tuck in your shirt, a well-fitting blazer is great for covering up a gut.
Or learn to sew - taking a shirt in isn't as hard as it seams (okay, couldn't resist that).
I learned how to do the basics in grad school from a girlfriend; it wasn't perfect-perfect (if you're going to a job interview/meet the head of state, pay a tailor) but it was better than the original variety.
I find that large shirt fit great but are too short. Tall sizes are exactly what the doctor ordered. I even have some Tall under shirts now so they don't untuck inside a tucked shirt. Lifesaver.
The only really lousy part is that I'm a jeans and T-shirt guy and finding regular T-shirts that fit right is a pain. I either buy the XL for the (minimal) extra length but look baggy, or larges and risk my asscrack showing when I sit down.
So does Eddie Bauer, which you can get online. I'm a medium-tall in a polo shirt now.
thetreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:33:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As does Old Navy. Or find a place with styles you like and take them to a tailor. Don't have to do it with everything but for clothes you wear when you want to look nice it is essential. Wearing clothes that fit your body type is essential to looking good.
kushper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck JC Penny, they dont know shit when it comes to slim. I get my stuff from Express and online. Where i live its department store after department store. Being a slim guy looking for clothes that fit in a city of under 100,000 is a first world problem. /vent
dos8s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find an online outlet that builds shirts to your measurements. It's going to cost 2-3x more a dress shirt but in my opinion it's better to own a few quality articles of clothing that fit perfect over a large number of low quality poorly fitting items. Indochino and moderntailor are 2 vendors off the top of my head.
courtFTW ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:49:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a good tailor. This is the most important piece of advice I can give anyone who is looking to dress better. A good tailor can make a not so exceptional off the rack garment look like it was made for you. Buy less but buy better and have each garment tailored to you.
Second this. Banana Republic slim fits are perfect, and the style is always ahead of the curve. They are a bit pricey, but they have great sales for card members. Like, $70 shirts for $15 type of sales.
Kep0a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly this is BR's pricing model, they price way above what it's worth and then put it on sale. Not to say they aren't good clothing, though.
Slim fits. I have the same issue, 5'10" and I'm only 130lbs. Depending on the brand of t-shirt, some larges look ridiculous on me. Thankfully I'm not too tall so this isn't always a huge issue, but it's not uncommon for me either.
Came here to say this. My husband is 6'1" and 150-155 lbs. I look for Slim Fit or Slim Cut. American Rag (I get them at Macy's) has some nice casual shirts, Express (if you're in the U.S.) has some dress shirts in a ton of colors.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm about the same height and weight as you (I think) and small fits me just fine.
Ah ok, I'm in the US so maybe that's why? Still odd that there's that much of a difference. Maybe my torso is just longer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I assume that out bodies just vary in ways other than height/weight. Either that or my shirts don't fit me as well as I think they do. Could be a regional thing also.
Let me guess, either a medium is too short but a large is too wide? Yeah that's me too. You need to buy either slim fits or tall fits. Exclusively. slim fit large would be right up your alley
Online shopping is the best friend of anyone who wears an unusual size or fit. A lot of places will pay for shipping if you need to exchange for a different size.
Gap, Banana Republic, and Old Navy sell Medium Tall clothes if you look online. So does Eddie Bauer, and I think Tommy Hilfiger. They also have a lot of sales online. My boyfriend is tall and usually wears medium too, if they're long enough.
Old Navy has "tall" sizes for all their shirts and and jackets. They have a nice fitted look on me and are 2-3" longer than their normal ones. They're online only though, no tall sizes in stores. They usually have free shipping deals and good sales so I can buy shirts for 5-10 dollars.
Banana Republic (also Gap and Old Navy) sells medium tall in most their men's tops online. I'm 6'5 195lbs and medium tall fits perfectly, its slim around the waist and chest but not too short like most mediums.
Turn it inside out. Have someone pin the shirt close to you so that it's tighter. Sew a straight line by the edge (make sure to go in reverse over your stitches on both ends to secure them) and then a second zig-zag line closer to your body so the seam never pops. Trim the ends, and voila! Shirt tailored just for you!
Robo3000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go post details over at /r/malefashionadvice in one of their recurring simple questions threads and I guarantee at least a few helpful suggestions and possibly even someone with the same body type giving you a lead on something perfect.
Darko-- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get slim fit or tailored fit. I'm 6'-7" 220 LB's of skinniness and I can find dress shirts that fit right.
BigEd781 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy decent shirts and find a good tailor or seamstress.
enyoron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy online from Asian retailers, they're all about the slim fits. Also, if you've stopped growing, get your nice formal and business clothes custom tailored. It's worth it.
My son is 6'4", and to get shirts that fit his length for his arms and torso, then takes them to a little old lady at a local dry cleaners that alters them to fit him better around the middle. He looks great, and his shirts look custom.
I'm really thin and 6'2" and I've found relatively inexpensive shirts at J Crew Factory. It's supposed to be lower quality, but price is low and they have slim fit options. They also have tall options. And I haven't had any problems with their t-shirt quality thus far.
josh4050 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are good at keeping you clothes nice getting a few dress shirts tailored can be incredibly worth it. Especially for body types that don't fit the standard cuts.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Banana Republic Tailored Slim Fit Non-Iron dress shirts - the only dress shirts I've found that fit tall+thin properly
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at target at the mossimo big and tall t shirts. $12 and fit nicely. I'm 6'3 155 lbs.
My husband has the same problem with shirts; we order all of his tees, dress shirts and sweaters from Lands' End - on the website you can filter their shirts for ones that come in "tall" and "tailored fit". Have also had some luck with tall shirts at Eddie Bauer.
umadbroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:32:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H&M
imacyber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a similar issue; shirts that fit me in the shoulders are too long in the arms.
imacyber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a similar issue; shirts that fit me in the shoulders are too long in the arms.
Go to a tailor! Buy a cheap shirt at target, and spend $10 extra at a tailor to get it properly fitted. Just show up and say you want to have these shirts fitted. Since you're skinny, the tailor will probably take in the sides and around the arms and you will have a nice slim fit shirt that will feel great to wear. I'm serious, it makes a $15 shirt look like a $150 shirt on you. Doesn't matter if you're a bit chubby, a bit twig-like, or a bit neanderthal-looking, properly fitted clothes will make you look good.
Edit: The same goes for pants, if you find yourself having awkwardly fitting pants.
You can buy Tall Medium online, or buy shirts in the store that fit your arm length and have them altered (tailored) to fit your torso. Not as expensive as it sounds, and you're going to love having clothes that fit you properly!
Either get something larger and get them tailored, or go thrift some shitty looking shirts to practice on and a sewing machine. Otherwise, talls would be your best off-the-rack option.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Enough people have thrown out good ideas on where to get pre-made tall guy clothes, but for good shirts you already have, get them tailored. Tailoring makes all the difference in clothes looking good on people
SiON42X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at large slim/tailored fits or find tall shirts. Uniqlo has some good ones at times.
Their shirts are designed to worn untucked, so maybe a large shirt won't balloon around your waste as much like a normal buttondown does. I'm the same way btw but between small and medium. My shoulders are very broad but my waste is a small, so most I hope to find medium shirts that are tight around the middle or small shirts that are loose in the shoulders. It's infuriating.
Here's button down in black on sale at Jcrew.com right now. Slim large is the only size left. Ends up being $15 with the extra 40% off. There's a good amount of tall tshirts/polos and slim fit button-downs on sale right now if you don't mind ordering stuff online.
it will cost a little extra, but you can take them to a tailor and they'll adjust them to fit you perfect. I recently did this with a jacket that was too big for me and people actually took notice.
My tall, skinny boyfriend likes to get his dress shirts at Express. A little pricey normally, but you can catch good sales. I'm sure there are plenty of other places too, you just have to shop around a bit to find the right fit for your body type.
Buy your dress shirts at Ross, marshals, Burlington or any other outlet. Take them to a tailor, get shirts/slacks altered. They'll fit perfect. $20 for shirt prob $10 to get tailored.less if you get a few done.
TheRare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look into Express for button ups and pants. Large or medium but their "fitted" or "extra slim" cuts tend to fit really well for tall skinny guys.
For any sort of button up shirts, plenty of places sell slim fits - it might not be the intended slim/tight fit on you, but it won't look baggy. Also, look online if there isn't any type of specialized store for tall guys around you, because they definitely exist.
Get shirts tailored. Taking in the sides of these shirts is super simple and cheap if you find the right place - especially if you have a few at once.
Get a sowing machine. Making small clothing modifications is super easy. Maybe practice on a cheap shirt first, but it's really not all that difficult.
Dude, there's a million stores on the internet. Find one that sells relatively cheap shirts in different lengths. Charles Tyrwhitt for instance. Try a few different ones and when you find a fit/size/length you like, buy a bunch of shirts and you're set for ages.
J.Crew factory outlet website. They have tshirts that fit and feel amazing and they come in tall sizing. Highly recommend it because they are like $11 each and they offer free shipping pretty often.
Look for slim fit. I'm the same way and even if you have to pay a little more for brands that offer it, it's life changing. I had people complimenting me on my weight loss for months. All I did was buy the right shirts.
I'm 6'0 and medium is just fine most places. You must at least be 6'2 or just have really bad anxiety of possible showing your belt buckle when reaching your arms over your head.
There's plenty of stores that have tall sizes. Sadly. Many of them are just online, but they exist. Please don't go through life with I'll fitting shirts.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
test out smalls and mediums. I'm all torso so sometimes mediums are long enough but end up being too baggy.
When you tuck in your shirt, try to tuck and fold the side seam of your shirt over the back panels. It'll pull the loose fabric tighter and keep it there as your waist/belt holds it in place. Makes my shirts all look tailored as fuck.
gildoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a tailor like every well dressed man you've ever seen has already done.
American Eagle also has M-Tall shirts that fit perfectly as a 6'3 slim-man. I bought one of them online and immediately got compliments on how well it fit.
J Crew Factory, Gap and Banana Republic do tall sizes. JCrew also does slim which is awesome for the more athletic builds. Great V drop!
SlowFive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a tailor. Usually you can find a hole in the wall place to do I for $10.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon! I'm 6'6" and pretty damn thin. I get the XLT's and they fit perfectly.
There are other places that people have recommended but you can literally find anything on Amazon. I found jeans that fit me perfectly that I can't find in the stores.
Hannarrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know that Ralph Lauren has a "big and tall" line, but you could also get large clothing tailored. It usually isn't that expensive and will make your clothing fit so much better
Old Navy has nice casual button up shirts and you can buy them in the tall section online. My boyfriend is 6'5" and wears LT (large/tall) and they fit him perfectly. Also they always have 30/40% off! :)
Also, since some of those subreddits show outfits that cost over $1,000, /r/frugalmalefashion is a nice alternative for people who don't want to go broke
Edit 2: OK, so apparently all those subreddits suck 24/7, and they also only suck most of the time, and also some of them don't suck. I don't know...
[deleted] ยท 354 points ยท Posted at 18:01:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
a fit is an outfit. A post is... an image posted on a forum. Fam is family but used for friends.
'Talk shit post fit fam' is an abbreviated way of saying "if you are going to critique other peoples clothes friend, post an example of what you wear or people won't take your critique seriously".
FWIW I've literally never said this before.
JV19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:43 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I do think it is but it's just an echo of a pervasive theme in human group dynamics and society at large:
"If you want to tell us if something is bad, prove to us you know what you are talking about."
Lots of ways to say it, most of them more eloquent and less abrasive, but it serves a real purpose.
It just seems less legitimate in a space like fashion where there at least appears (to me and most other laypeople) to be a lot of ambiguity about what is right or correct and so hard to tell who is knowledgeable.
eh, thats still unfair tho. I can know an outfit doesnt look good without being super fashion conscientious. like, if somebody wears a suit made out of tacos i ican tell them its shit.
Yea man I feel you but thats just not the way fashion conscious people think, or really the way anyone who has put significant time into understanding a market or trend thinks.
Fashion people (again, not me) think of it like any other hobby, snowboarding, arduino robots, stock trading, video games, whatever.
If you didnt play many video games would you walk up to a gamer and tell him the game hes thinking about buying is shit and not expect him to check whether you actually play video games before taking your advice?
If your friend gets a new snowboard and you say its not that good of a snowboard, hes probably going to ask if you have ever ridden a snowboard.
If you look at someones arduino code for their robot and say its poorly optimized, hes probably going to prod your coding skills to see if you know what you are talking about.
Its hard in fashion to prove you know what you are talking about, but a really easy way to check is to look at what someone is wearing. People who care about that stuff can tell immediately from a photo if you are also someone who cares, and consequently someone who has spent a lot of time examining fashion.
well it all comes down to opinion sure, but it still a little different. i think EVERYBODY has a least a tiny bit of fashion sense. sure, they might not be competent, but they can tell you whats shit.
You'd be surprised, actually. For really basic stuff this is true, but you might not know what to look for in well-fitting clothes if you don't own any yourself, just to give an example.
It's like yeah, I can tell you that your piece of art is shit, but if I'm not an artist then my critiques aren't going to be phrased in a way that is constructive to the subject.
P9P9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what brand the suit is. If its a real supreme taco suit /r/streetwear will love it
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:36:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I mean the idea is that giving critical feedback that is contrary to general opinion without evidence of your own knowledge of style isnt helpful. it's a shitty way to say something that is pretty reasonable, given the purpose of the forum you're posting in.
They're like all of Reddit in that they have a hive mind of what they like. But they're awesome for helping with specific styles if you look a bit deeper and ask
enyoron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're alright on generic advice (ie what types of fits suit a body type, what colors match the season), but they're incredibly elitist when it comes to specific brands and the cost of clothing. If you post an outfit with top labels that costs $700+ then you'll be considered a fashionista (regardless of how good or bad you actually look). If you post an outfit that fits well, has balanced colors but uses cheap brands you'll have people telling you how you need to upgrade to some brand that costs 5x as much (they give this advice even if they think you look good). Though occasionally they'll have budget threads which aren't too bad.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:56:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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enyoron ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:17:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The subreddit culture may be different now, but it was what drove me away from that sub around ~2012.
spraj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you find a single example of this happening?
mrpeppr1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have never seen anyone recommend a more expensive for the sake of it being expensive. It's very rare actually to name a specific brand when recommending something.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:37:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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enyoron ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:12:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The basic advice is very good but it has the 'high fashion' problem of valuing brand names and 'trendy' (re: expensive) clothing regardless of how good it actually looks.
I don't think so, their sidebar has tons of useful advice. Of course it helps a ton to have some fashion forward friends to bring along to see if the stuff you're considering buying is actually worth buying. This is how I ended up buying a neat $50 button up in what I assumed to be my size that I never wear anymore.
Its for beginners into fashion and it would be a really big improvement for some people!
farfle10 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:25:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If dressing in the confines of MFA is like a 5/10, and 90% of guys in America (assumed) are like a 1/10, then you're still going to be looking 4 points better than 90% of the guys out there. Some quality boots, slim jeans, and well-fitting button up is basically a meme at this point for MFA, but in reality you'd be looking better than the vast majority of people you see in person. People that post on MFA and MF are trying to impress each other, not necessarily the average person, which is why if you spend too much time on those subs, you start to get a warped sense of what actually looks good. If you're draped in Rick Owens and you're going to some college in California, then you probably look like shit to everyone else. It's all about perspective and knowing your circles.
it's not a shithole. it has great tips for starting off. in fact, anyone's judgement looking at the suggestions there can tell them if a post is more akin to a wacky inspiration concept or a plausible outfit with practical tips on how to execute it.
Yeah I just went to check it out. It could have changed or I may have confused it with a sub about hairstyles because I was remembering a sub where in every comment section people were encouraging the OP to ditch their current style and go for something like this.
Edit: The link was crap because I'm on mobile but basically shoulder length hair styled to look like an aname character and equally cringe worthy clothing.
soretits ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 20:20:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
usremane ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:00:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
hipster
hipster
hipster
Nice memes, but it isn't hipster to care about fashion or how you dress. To many its about improving self confidence or self image and to some it becomes a hobby. Blowing it off as hipster shit is really just ignorant.
soretits ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
usremane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm sorry but I went on and checked top of all time and didn't see this post you're quoting at all even remotely close to the top and I went pretty far down. I'm not gonna take your word on what are elf boots or an ugly t shirt because honestly I don't trust it. Some people have the money to spend extra on fashion and if that's what they wanna spend it on so be it, that doesn't make them hipster? Is it wrong to admire someone's expensive high quality items when they can afford it? You make it sound like if you go on MFA and ask for a recommended white tee theyll recommend some $200 rick Owens plain tee but in fact they are humans who can be aware of people not wanting to spend absurd amount on a t shirt and would more likely offer a $15 uniqlo t shirt.
klethra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm looking in my crystal ball and seeing chelsea boots and everything else SLP.
soretits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It has become less about giving tailored advice specific to the individual and functions more as an echo chamber where everyone just prescribes current trends male fashion and down-votes anything that the MFA hive mind doesn't agree with.
You can learn a lot of things from it. But if you are super impressionable and believe anything you see style wise, (which is a lot of people,) you're going to come out the other end looking like a fucking all black ninja turtle.
It's a good place to see ideas, different types of clothes and how they fit on others that maybe you never considered or never like because you saw someone else wear it horribly wrong.
A fair amount of the posters in there are a bit over the top or avant grade in the way they dress. But you can still take a look and find what you don't like about those clothes and what doesn't work together for you personally, and can avoid those snafus in the future. Also some people have no concept of affordable and don't realize the rest of us aren't trust fund babies or living with mom and dad and can't afford a $800 jacket, or $300 sneakers that look slightly better than $50 sneakers.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:13:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped going because it was mainly American shops/sites/sizes (to be expected.), everyone seems to assume everything needs to cost $200, and it seems to be a lot of people just guessing.
Plus when I used to frequent it, every reply was pretty much shirt, cardigan, chinos.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sidebar suggestions are good for people who don't know how to dress properly. The fits have a lot of people who spend a lot of money on looks that are trendy/artsy which to me look pretty stupid in public but to each their own.
bobsp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is it gives advice for beginners who want to move out of the teen fashion phase. And their usual advice of an OCDB, CDB, and chinos are good and smart options, despite it transforming into a circle jerk. It's not an overly fashion forward subreddit because that's not the purpose, though it does house a fair amount of openness to such things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It seems great if you are into the young professional with varying degrees of but not full on hipster looks, and for many people that will be great, but for many others it's kind of useless.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:16:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a stepping stone, that's why it's called malefashionadvice
deelar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was my experience a while back. Maybe its changed, but at that point it was pretty much like a group of alcoholics trying to run a rehab program.
farfle10 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:26:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol why because you spent some time there and got used to the 'beginner' look that MFA offers? If dressing in the confines of MFA is like a 5/10, and 90% of guys in America (assumed) are like a 1/10, then you're still going to be looking 4 points better than 90% of the guys out there. Some quality boots, slim jeans, and well-fitting button up is basically a meme at this point for MFA, but in reality you'd be looking better than the vast majority of people you see in person. People that post on MFA and MF are trying to impress each other, not necessarily the average person, which is why if you spend too much time on those subs, you start to get a warped sense of what actually looks good in everyday life. If you go to school at some college in southern California and you're draped in Rick Owens, then you probably look like shit to everyone else. It's all about perspective and knowing your circles.
Frugal fashion advice goes from 800-1,000 dollar jackets to 400-600 dollar jackets. It's male fashion advices deals sub, it's not about frugal fashion. On the front page is a "deal" for only 70 euro scarves.
"How to look like a goddamn hipster that has never grown any muscles in his life"
Those pants they advertise there would never fit on me. Neither would the tiny armed shirts -_-
It should be called /r/howtodresslikeagayerskinnierabercrombiemodel
No matter what your body type: "Skinny jeans and fashion boots. And don't forget the cardigan and/or overpriced varsity jacket to finish off that 'I learned to dress by watching Glee' look."
Sneet1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:35:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like you dress like shit fam, is that a hint of fragile masculinity I'm sniffing out there?
I'd dig in to that, but I'm afraid that, like most self improvement stuff, the first step is going to be "spend a lot of money that you don't have."
klethra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you really want to get into it for cheap, look at their stuff on sizing and how clothes should fit. From there, evaluate your wardrobe and pick up whatever you need from a thrift shop.
If you want to look like a carbon copy clone of the hive mind outfit of the month, then that's the place to go. It's a decent enough place for kids moving out for the first time or Uber slobs, but it ends there.
Biyori ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:22:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You say that, but is there a better alternative for people just starting with fashion?
It's a good starting point, if only just to be exposed to things. Other good reddit options are to go to subs devoted to specific clothing items like jackets, jeans, watches, suits, shoes (shout-out to /r/goodyearwelt ), etc.
/r/malefashionadvice is a fine place for someone just starting out. It covers the basics very well and then from there it's just a matter of figuring out what you like. I personally don't like a lot of the styles posted there, but it's still a good resources.
There's a difference between looking good and looking fashionable, and without taking the person's overall look into consideration, it's impossible to assess what someone needs.
If you're an average-looking person between 15 and 22, who has no muscle and is of average height, /r/malefashionadvice is probably a decent starting point. But if there is anything at all unique about you, start elsewhere.
ZuXzu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:08:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to a reputable clothes store and ask. And by reputable I don't mean a store that predominantly sells stuff with huge logos on it.
Biyori ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:36:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By doing that you will get varied answers depending on who you speak to and which store you enter. Also going by your advice, people will most likely enter a store and ask "how do i dress well?", and the store clerk probably just find him/her clothing and be done with it. /r/mfa has a great sidebar. I'd rather read the book first before asking the teacher questions about the things I don't know, if you catch my drift.
is there a better alternative for people just starting with fashion
Yes. Meet a girl. Go shopping with her AND HER SISTER, FRIEND, AND/OR MOTHER.
Never go shopping with just one girl -- she'll either turn you into the last guy she was fucking, or she'll like everything no matter how bad it looks on you.
klethra ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:31:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely not. If you want to dress well, ask a fashionable guy to go with you. Girls know male fashion about as well as guys know female fashion.
Acrio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:06:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why should a girl know more than you about male fashion? Fashion isn't some alien language only taught to females, you can be interested and develop your own style as well. Some of the most god-awful fits I've ever seen on guys were crafted by their girlfriends.
My advice, if you're genuinely interested in being fashionable, is just to put a minimum amount of effort into reading, researching, and observing. From there you can start developing your wardrobe.
Biyori ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:43:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that a friend circle tend to have similar taste in clothing. Lets say you go out with this emo or anime girl you just met, and there's a chance they're going to recommend you emo clothing or my little pony t-shirts. And just because they're girls doesn't mean they're knowledgeable in fashion.
geoman2k ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:07:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really silly characterization. Look at it like learning to be an artist - most people don't go straight from picking up a pencil to becoming Picasso. They start by learning the fundamentals, the simple basic rules. Then when they're comfortable with the rules, they are able to branch out and find their own style. Picasso was doing realism paintings long before he ever dabbled in cubism.
The community at MFA is all about that. If you look at any of their guides, they are all about teaching the fundamentals first and foremost - how clothes should fit, what are modern wardrobe basics, what clothes to wear on what occasions, how to match colors/textures/fabrics... This is simple stuff that everyone should know, no matter how they want to dress. They are rules that apply weather you want to wear the basic MFA "uniform" or if you want to go for a more stylistic approach like streetwear, techwear, etc.
carbon copy clone of the hive mind
I really don't understand the idea that there's something wrong with following popular styles when you dress yourself. A lot of people aren't trying to make some grand artistic statement with their clothing. They're just trying to look good and well put together. If you walk into a room wearing a well fitted OCBD, some nice chinos and wingtips, chances are 9/10 people are going to think you look great. The 1/10 people who might take exception with that style probably have a very specific style in mind which they are looking for, anyways.
MFA is a place for absolute beginner who wants to dress better and have no idea how. I'd rather wear the MFA uniform (OCBD shirts, chinos, desert boots) than dressing like shit. Go to the sidebar, ask a question, you will get the gist of how dressing well works because the people are generally pretty helpful there.
Knowing how to dress properly is just the first step. You can't play chess unless you know how to set up the board.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to look like a carbon copy clone of the hive mind outfit of the month, then that's the place to go.
If you're looking for advice, that's probably a good thing. You're not going to go from slob to trendsetter in a day no matter how many posts you read. Being a duplicate of everyone else is fine. That's a huge step up from being dressed worse than everyone else.
I don't really use the sub, but given he mentioned khakis and a button-down as a noticeable improvement, I think MFA would be a step up for him - as it likely would be for most people on Reddit. Norse Projects, Uniqlo, a tailored suit, Goodyear welt boots, etc probably aren't going to hurt many people's dating game.
If you're like me for much of my 20s, "dress nicely" and "have clothes fit" didn't make sense to me. I mean I understood the concept, but no one taught me. So guys, here's a few primers.
Your clothes are about creating lines and a silhouette. Simple fit tips:
Your pants shouldn't bunch up more than once if they do at all. If they do, they're too long. You can show your socks when you are sitting and cross your legs. If you see your actual leg, they're too short.
Your shirts should have the shoulder seam where your shoulder ends. Not before or down on your arm.
Black doesn't go with nearly as many things as brown. Have some nice brown shoes.
Similarly, wear navy, it goes with most stuff. A classic look is navy pants and a white dress shirt. You will look good, I promise.
Hygiene habits that take 2 minutes per day and make you look so much better:
Shave your neck if you have facial hair/stubble. Create the correct line by drawing down from your earlobes then across your neck making a line about a finger width above your adams apple. Shave below that. Do not shave super high so that the facial hair starts right where your chin is.
Pick a hairstyle that is clean and simple. Take the time to do it every day. Don't know what to get or how to style it? Go to a nice barber one time and get their opinion and let them go crazy. Bonus: a nice haircut is a supreme confidence boost.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black doesn't go with nearly as many things as brown. Have some nice brown shoes.
A year ago I bought a pair of RM Williams chestnut brown Chelsea boots. Work casually and can get away with them in a suit. Brown is good gents, just make sure your belt matches.
Similarly, wear navy, it goes with most stuff.
I've yet to see a navy suit look bad, unless horrendously fitted, but light greys and even blacks? Not so easy. Blue suits work for just about any occasion.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've recently adopted the power of the navy sportcoat. Instantly takes you up a notch in style. Works with pretty much anything.
cqm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a personal designer.
When the opposite sex dresses you, they unintentionally dress you in ways that more of the opposite sex also likes. Yes, your clothes might be tighter than you thought, yes more of the same sex will also hit on you. These are just additional forms of validation.
Also why married men have ironed but bland clothes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. It's insane how people react to you when you try to wear something different than a tee and jeans.
To back this up, wear clothes that fit better. Instead of buying relaxed fit jeans from wal- mart, consider buying some slightly more slims jeans. They don't even have to be fancy, they could be from H&M. Obviously this goes both ways, if you are a bigger person, make sure you wear clothes that fit, like flowier shirts and nothing that is overly tight. Also make sure your shoes are clean and shampoo your fucking hair! Or wear a nice hat or something, greasy hair has to be the worst.
You can look good in jeans. I have a few pairs of dark color jeans that I keep just for looking decent. Maje sure they are not baggy. Levi's 514 are my favorite. Only wash your nice jeans when they smell or are visibility dirty.
Once the color begins to change they became my regular jeans until they rip.
For Americans (and I am one as well, so shut up), wear something that fits, goddammit. Enough with the baggy clothes two sizes too large; wear something form fitting to your body.
vanessow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wish I could properly explain how hot I find my boyfriend in adult clothes. He likes to wear sweatpants and shorts all the time. If he wore a non-T-shirt and even dark jeans. . Sploosh.
The way I see it, is have a style. Whether that is black t-shirt and jeans. Button up and khakis. Boat shoes and chinos. Whatever it is. Own it, look the best you can in it. Make it seem like you actually put some distinction into what you are wearing, not just the first thing thing off the hanger or in the drawer.
Same goes for shopping for clothes. Yea sure, the clothes at the gap or walmart technically cover you just like all the other clothes from nicer brands, but you can tell. You don't need to be wearing name brand labels, but you want to be wearing quality clothes.
DWillows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, on one hand fancier does help, but on the other, my silk pj's are pretty damn amazing.
A decent rule that I like is to always dress just a step better than the norm of the men I work with. If most men at my workplace wear khakis and a polo, I wear sport or dress shirt. They wear dress shirt? Add a tie. Have that be YOUR norm. Don't try to show people up or dress o the nines all the time; you may be look over dressed or come off as pretentious. Don't be the guy in a suit if accepted code is a polo shirt. Just bump it up a notch and it looks like you put in solid effort to look good, and people notice.
Don't even need to dress up. Just a well fitting, clean shirt and proper fitting jeans. I wear a lot of nautica shirts (cheap and comfy) and jeans and it's just a clean, simple look. But if one of the shirts is wrinkly or the jeans too baggy it looks way off and I look like a 19 year old college bro again.
I tucked in my shirt today and I've gotten several remarks at the office. ugh.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
T-shirt and jeans can work, but...
Go to a nice store (I know it's a chain, but Nordstroms is good about this) and get someone to properly fit you. Learn about inseams and waist lines and learn how to wear your damn clothes.
Yes, at a nice store, they will tailor most clothing to fit (especially jeans). This is important, even if you don't buy the ridiculously overpriced jeans there (seriously; they're bad). But once you have your appropriate measurements, you can usually find factory-direct prices online and just order what you need. A nice t-shirt that fits and a well-made pair of jeans that fit, paired with a good pair of shoes (id est, not your fucking tennis shoes or trainers) is a perfectly decent set of going-out clothes. For a bit of fun, try throwing a casual jacket or blazer over the outfit and BAM! Now you have a look that is effortless, cost-effective, and wouldn't get you thrown out of most nice restaurants.
Sure, they just need to be paired with tallness, thinness, and broad shoulders. I don't understand why 2/3rds of the men in the world don't get how easy it is!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But who needs tees when there are lightweight thermals whose sleeves you can push up?
And so flexible! Want a nap? Already in pajamas! Care for a ski? Guess who's already wearing long underwear, you clever fellow! Get covered in burrs? Exude the charm of the outdoors!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Canadian, some of us don't live in Narnia where that is practical wear.
For instance, it was a balmy 50 degrees here today. How's that for January.
Good lord, do you have special gutters to catch all the melting aluminum!? Wait a second... you're participating in some kind of American cointelpro where a bizarre counting scheme makes your temperatures look much hotter than they actually are, aren't you?
50s are a great temperature though, I would be happy with constant 50s. You fuckers are probably wearing longcoats and toques when it's 50, shivering in horror at how any person could survive such conditions. At least that's the impression I have about southerners based on Floridians, but I'm told that's a comparison that gets people killed in some places.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Flurrida isn't really the same thing as Texas.
That said, no, 50 is not long coat weather. 30 is.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:54 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We need to talk about the Shannara Chronicles.
I know your love of bad sf TV precedes you, and my snobbish elitism marks me not as a man of class and distinction but as a curmudgeonly old, but so help me I cannot stop watching this pap. It's so offensively awful that it's come around full circle to good. What is wrong with me?
Sweet, I remember Terry Brooks! Read all that shit along with the David Eddington stuff--good times.
"Game of Thrones has ushered in an era of epic television, and a production of the Shannara novels, another beloved fantasy series, is our way of following in its footsteps."
Right on.
An MTV production.
Oh fuck off you bunch of wankers.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:17 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ffs, every elf looks like they stuck funny ears on the cast of some teen drama.
I don't care enough about any of these characters to be invested in this stupid race. "May the best elf win"? Oh fuck off.
... they're literally at a party talking about who they want to ask out to prom, while Imagine Dragons plays in the background. I have not drank enough for this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:40 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep going! Keep going! Eventually the pain fades and you experience bad genre tv nirvana.
I... think I'm going to watch this religiously. :(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:57 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of us! One of us! Gooble gobble gooble gobble!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find when I dress like that I attract girls I don't get along well with. Maybe I have bad luck but I just dress like I normally do and I attract the girls like me
IW1911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly why I am a t-shirt, hoodie/flannel shirt, Jeans and Converse guy 90% of the time. I wear well fitting clothes, I'm just always laid back with my style. So when I do scrub up, it gets the nod of approval.
krankie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is honey mustard dressing okay?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't care about clothing or don't know what you to wear, go to the store and buy what the mannequin is wearing as long as you don't hate it. This has scored me so many points and saves me from my usual wardrobe of jeans and a white T-shirt.
It's not only dressing nicer. Anyone can dress in nice clothes and still look less attractive than they could because they're missing personal style. Then there's be attractive to who for what reason. Pick a style that works with your style that appeals to the people you're interested in that shows your own personal creativity that expresses who you are.
But then you'll start getting creepy guys and aliens calling you at 3 in the morning
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
button up
On this, iron it properly. Whether I'm wearing a formal dress shirt or a linen button up for casual stuff I always iron my shirt properly. Don't be the guy wearing a shirt that looks like you ironed it with a rock.
This is my go-to style on the reg, with a nice printed tee underneath. I don't have any really expensive clothes, so most of my khakis, tees, button ups or flannels are usually $10-20, tops, or maybe even $25 if it's payday from places like TJ Maxx, Marshalls, Ross, Old Navy etc. Really, my tees are probably the most expensive things I wear since I like to get them online from gaming sites. And remember, khakis don't have to be tan, get a nice grey pair and they can go with almost any top, and tend to make you seem like you have an idea what the word "style" means; really, any color but tan will make you look pretty stylish - at least, it does to me.
If you just buy one $15-20 item on each paycheck, after a few months you'll start to notice your own style changing up a bit and you'll subtly start defining it without effort. You don't need to do some 80's ass makeover shopping spree.
arclathe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dark grey weathered jeans have the same effect in my experience. It looks like "Hey I like wearing jeans, but I'm still going to go a little further to look good." Those combined with a brightly-colored and even semi-dressy shirt (casual polo/flannel/button-up) make for a pretty good result. It also helps to find unique-looking shirts and jackets. Something to stick out a bit without being too in-your-face. But again this is just from personal experience.
It all depends on your willingness to look like a shiny little hipster.
Graphic T's just don't look good on any guy past the age of like 23.
Buy some shirts with buttons. Maybe a name brand or two, you don't need to stock your whole closet with Gucci, but a nice pull-over / couple nice dress shirts / and a sport coat can make the world of difference when you want to make an impression.
Also, guys under 30, seriously learn how to wear & tie a tie.
AdamGeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People typically request that I dress like a savage, because khakis and a button-up are too uptight, apparently
Jeans that fit and a white t-shirt seems lazy but if you're wearing a dope pair of shoes you're way ahead of most guys.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once I was in a gentlemans club and got approached by a dancer. She asked if I wanted a dance and I said no thank you, I'm ok, I don't have the money. She said come on! Anyone dressed like you has their shit together. I was in a button up and khakis.
jmcdon00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My only piece of fashion advice is wear a dark top with a light bottom, or light bottom with a dark top.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I swear to fucking god putting on some nice clothing and getting a haircut at an actual barber (no, not fucking great clips), and you INSTANTLY go from a 5/10 to a 7 or 8. Seriously, it's that fucking easy. You can be a legitimately unattractive looking person genetically, but if you dress yourself nicely and have a cute personality, people will be into you. Just go buy some decent basics from H&M or Uniqlo and spend 25 dollars on a good haircut and you're like 50% of the way to being good looking.
The secrets to being an attractive man:
Dress nice. Buy like 2 pairs of jeans (don't get baggy shit, at least something slim-ish/fitted/whatever you want to call it. Don't drown in your clothing.), and some shirts. Go on ebay and buy a pair of white low-top sneakers. The first pair of decent shoes I bought were a pair of Stan Smiths for 8 fucking dollars, and I'm still wearing them as I type this. Stan Smiths are 10000% my recommended starter shoes because they're really comfortable, look nice, and also look good when they're beat the fuck up. Buy a decent coat if it's wintertime. After you've done this, just google "[your city] barber". It is very simple, and Google will nicely display a phone number for you to book your appointment.
Have a nice personality. Don't be a dick. It's simple. Be nice to people and at least feign interest in them. If you fake it, eventually it will probably become genuine.
maintain your fucking hygeine. If you show up to social events with dirt under your nasty long fingernails and you have yellow teeth, people will notice. When you begin the process of showing interest in other peoples' lives, they will be less inclined to respond twice if a wave of stench comes from your mouth.
Kinda ties in with #3, but just don't be fat. Seriously, lose the weight. If you have a better diet, it'll also make your skin look nicer, and your face will clear up. The first step is ALWAYS to stop drinking soda. Just cut it out right away. It's pretty easy to transition from soda to gatorade and then to water. Then quit eating frozen food, etc. You can still eat fast food and shit, just take calorie deficits into account. You don't even have to be super fit either, just don't be fat. Obviously being particularly fit gains you bonus points, but being fat is a lot more negative than being fit is positive if that makes sense.
It's just very frustrating to see people complaining about girls not liking them or feeling ugly when they can make some very simple changes to fix it. I see some guys that would legitimately be quite attractive if they'd clear up their face, get a haircut, and quit wearing sandals and cargo shorts everywhere.
Lengador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just discovered "khakis" doesn't mean "camo". Not sure why I thought that but some descriptions of characters in books make a lot more sense now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats not exactly simple, espeacially if you are low on money..
Sylxian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a personal experience to add to this. Within the past last year I started doing just this. Normally have to wear a button up shirt, slacks, and dress shoes for work anyway. But things just didn't seem as good as they could be.
Being a smaller yet stocky guy, its dam hard to find some good fitting shirts. So, pulling from my NJROTC days, I actually bought and started using shirt-stays again. Big difference now. Hell, being in IT, I can get under desks and reach up to high places and never have to worry anymore about my shirt being untucked. Just a quick pants/belt hitch, and bam, back to everything being in place again.
Also, with the most overall difference being this, I wanted to start incorporating vests in my normal work outfit. So I bought just one to try out, and dam! The compliments and thirsty looks just fucking rolled in. Ha, and gender didn't matter either with both. So the vests are here to stay. I look better and feel better with them on. Also, the even act a subtle fore-teller, to you, of your stomach size fluctuations.
The latest improvement is on winter wear. Zip-up jackets always did that flair out thing due to my stocky shoulders. And I've always hated puffy, cumbersome jackets too. Plus both always stop at the waist line, so when I sat down or bent over I was always greeted by Jack Frost's kiss to my lower back if I wasn't careful. So what did I do? I bought a nice wool-blend pea coat. World of difference; all the old issues are totally absent. And a big plus, it's a kind of formal coat to begin with. I can wear it anywhere and people mark remarks - even when I'm dressed more casually underneath.
Everything doesn't cost much either if you find them off of ebay. (Oh, I also got slim ties) The 3 ties were no more than $4.50 together, pea coat was $40, quality shirt-stays were $20, and if I ever stop procrastinating the vests are $10 a pop. So for $74.50 you can be a new man. In the future, however, I'm going to spend more on the vests. I'm also going to get a matching fedora (OMG, he just said that?!) for the pea coat. Know Your Hats: Fedora vs Trilby for most of you, if you don't click the link, think Indiana Jones you uneducated bastards. And, I still need to get better dress shoes, but since the ones I got are serving their purpose for now, I'm going to wait a bit more.
Problem with this is when you work in a casual dress office. When you wear khakis or anything even remotely close to being nice, you get asked how the interview went.
khakis are the least sexual garment ever invented, bar none.
Those pink bunny pajamas Ralphie wore in a Christmas story? Those have more sex appeal than khaki pants.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, don't wear running shoes casually. It looks sloppy.
Source: Am wearing running shoes with khaki
snowqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:04:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also dress "a little nicer" while wearing jeans and tshirt. Chose jeans that have a bit of a tighter fit, instead of the cheap, wide and ugly ones. And don't wear geeky shirts like this, because they are very often very ugly and don't fit very well. Wear t shirts like those (except #4).
Btw. I dislike Khakis, that's why I commented. (Button up shirts (that fit well) are cool, and also fit to jeans!)
I appreciate what you're trying to do - and it is indeed possible to look nice in jeans and a t-shirt, but bro, come on. If you're paying $227 for a sleeveless t-shirt, you're a fucking idiot.
Get a solid color v-neck tee for $15, wear it with a nice pair of jeans ($40-$60 usually) and you can look fresh and crisp without going broke.
snowqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I would never pay that much, and many discounters have look alikes of the shirts I posted for 10-40$
To take it one step further, throw a sweater over that button up. Chicks dig layering.
You're the man now dog!
SiON42X ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:37:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeans and a t can look fantastic with the right shoes and jacket/hoodie.
[deleted] ยท 255 points ยท Posted at 14:27:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do things that broaden your horizons. Take something you do and do it bigger. Do things completely new. Go where you're least comfortable. Do the opposite of what your gut tells you every once in a while.
Try to have at least 1 new experience a year, even if you think you might not like it.
A few years back I implemented this plan and went to a ballet on a whim. I honestly didn't think I'd like it, but I wanted to expand my horizons. Turns out, I loved it and have been back each year since.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:48:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Professional dancers are frickin' incredible! But until you've sat close to the stage? it's hard to appreciate. Just like pro sports, until you've seen it up close? You haven't really seen it.
I was front mezzanine so I guess I was close enough. It still blew me away. Lincoln Center in NYC is gorgeous, and Swan Lake was stunning.
Also - Alvin Ailey will redefine your ideas about dance if you haven't really been exposed to dance before. They're awesome.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jealous!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:23:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With proper, logical judgement. If a hobbyist were interested in pyrotechnics there is a point where it becomes too large and "gut" reasoning may be sufficient.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:54:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nonsense! Crashing and burning always makes for a more interesting story. Nobody wants to hear about that time you did everything right.
I'm going back packing as soon as I graduate. When I told my sister (9 years older) her immediate reaction was to laugh.
Not in a bitchy way because she's given me a few really good ideas and she's a traveller herself, but she knows it's really out of my usual kind of personality. and that's EXACTLY why I'm doing it. I'm excited but also a little terrified at the same time. I honestly cannot wait :D
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:50:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome! Do it! That's what I did, except I didn't wait until I graduated, and I rode my bicycle. It's a great way to travel. I just packed a tent and slept in farmers fields most of the time. A farmers daughter or two might even remember me.
I'm used to being a city bloke and kind of a house hermit. Decided end of last year after saving up to start doing sailing courses. Almost got my coastal skippers and will be sailing to Australia as a first mate quite soon. Exciting and new times!! Hopefully..
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:32:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very nice! I crewed my way to India once. It's amazing. Nowadays I stick to my little beach-cat. The ladies love it!
Charlotka ยท 1141 points ยท Posted at 15:05:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ask questions about other people.
One of the biggest turn offs for me is when people don't ask questions about others. It gives me the impression that they are self-centered and don't care about anyone else. Seriously.... ugh.
I sometimes wonder if people actually know something about me, because I'm that guy that asks a lot of stuff about other people to be kind and show interest. I love hearing those stories and I will remember them, usually the slightest details which I can amaze people with that I still remember them after a long time. But I've never had anyone to ask stuff happening in my life. This resulted in me keeping everything for myself. When I want to talk about myself to someone, I suppress that thought. I cringe of times I actually said something about myself to someone.
[deleted] ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 19:17:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have the same problem, one thing I started doing lately is when someone tells something about themselves, I tell them the same thing about me. Example: A friend tells me he is watching a certain show, so I tell them which show I'm currently watching. Then I ask them about their show, because I'm afraid it might come off as me trying to put the focus on myself. I'm awkward :(
Theovide ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:23:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think there is anything awkward about that. Telling them something similar about you as they told you is a way to relate to them, and asking questions is a way to seem interested. At least that's what I do .
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:03:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not awkward to talk about yourself a little, that's healthy conversation. The real trick is learning how to control the flow of conversation. One of the best things I did for myself which got rid of a lot of the awkwardness was I'd listen to what they're saying... fully. Then wait for the healthy pause to keep the conversation moving. I used to have something to say that would be planned way a head of time before they were finished talking and thus doing so I would kill the flow because it may have been off topic off of their finishing point and things would kind of stagnate. Nextly I stopped holding back what was on my mind to a healthy extent. Being afraid to say something or how you really feel about something can totally ruin a conversation if you're just mindlessly reinforcing what they're saying. They want to hear what's on your mind too, just at the right times. A great example is I went on a date yesterday and I'd ask her a question but we'd go waaaaay off topic. But I didn't try to go back to some funny comment that I thought of earlier because it would've been irrelevant at that point and instead just let it flown it's natural course. Most importantly I've learned I can't get a long with everybody and not everyone is quite worth your time. So don't expect to have an amazing conversation with everyone. Luckily I live in the south and it's quite easy to practice small talk with just about everyone I encounter.
You can have a logical transition to have your own opinion. I like asking questions too and learning more about them, but I feel like people deserve for me to give something back"
"What shows you watching? What do you like about that show? Blah blah blah blah. That's interesting because it's kinda/nothing like the show that I'm watching. Have you heard of it? Yeah, I really like this part"
This is called normal conversation. Don't feel bad about talking about yourself as well. If they're a decent person they'll be interested in what you have to say.
Exchanging things about each other is how a conversation develops. If one person is talking about themselves to you the whole time, I wouldn't call that a conversation, i'd call it a lecture; I get lectures at university, I don't need them in normal conversation as well.
I do the same as you and recently I had people tell me that I never share anything about myself. Well maybe if they asked me like I ask them..
approx- ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:34:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just really bad at thinking of questions to ask on the fly. Like... how was your weekend? Good? You went skiing? Ok, cool... ... well, I'll just be over here at my desk then. People (like you) ask questions of me and dig into deeper details of my response which is great, I just can't quite figure out how to reciprocate it. My mind doesn't work fast enough or something.
I have this and also the problem that I feel I'm annoying people if I interrogate them. I know this isn't the case, because I like being asked questions myself, but it's difficult to remember that.
That's fine and I get that. But when people (like me) start telling them about stuff we do, at least act interested. A lot of people just don't seem interested when you start talking about yourself.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Practice makes perfect. A big thing is the difference between guys and girls. With guys I can totally speak my mind and talk about anything at all. With girls I bring up emotions more because I feel they relate better with that sort of thing. ig: guy- "what's up?" Girl-"how're you feeling today?"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! I love sharing thing about myself and would love to hear back from you, I'm just not quick enough on the draw to think of questions to ask back in response. It's a problem.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:18:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this happens with me too - my family tends to not ask about my day any more. It's definitely a self-propagating cycle because, on the occasions that my mother does ask, I'll usually give her a single word answer and not elaborate. Other times, if something interesting happens, I'll share of my own volition.
With friends it's about the same but if I harp on about a certain topic at length (I'm taking Japanese lessons right now and will bring it up fairly often), they'll definitely ask me about it.
So, yeah, share of your own volition and you'll get regular enquiries is my take away from all of this.
And you need to share about your job because now I'm curious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can totally understand why you might need to explain things in a simple language... I mean, sometimes I have to explain what I do in layman terms and I'm just a software engineer. :P
All I got from the wikipedia page was that you make magical chemistry predictions using computers... and that's pretty cool in my book. So have you actually managed to synthesize something new in the time that you've been working? Or do you tend to observe the current set of compounds instead?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:35:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't tend to meet people in such an obscure line of work on the regular so this is highly fascinating to me. :D
What are your methods though? When you're working to synthesize something, that is. I presume you just go off from what the mentioned organic chemists are theorizing. What would happen if a theory is viable?
JezzaN1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is me to a tee. maybe not quite to the extent of cringing about times i have spoken about myself, but 90% of conversations that have a good flow to them are because i ask questions or am generally interested in the other persons stories or what they have to say.
B4107 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 2 things to say.
1 - Are you me?
2 - I've gotten to the point now where I just act like I remember the story but not the small details now because at one point it got to where it weirded others out and I just decided to stop that even though I still remember small details.
I do that because otherwise I'm really bad at talking to people I don't already know really well. It seems to work...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i talk too much so i usually just annoy people. I feel the same way you do sometimes.
Even when I ask good questions people give the shittiest of answers so i kinda just stopped asking.
JenPo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a good and a bad side to this. I remember this girl I studied abroad with. She aggressively grilled people about themselves like an interview, where people barely had time to take a breath and fully answer her question before she had another, and another, and another. By the time you were done telling her about your great-great-great grandmother's cousin, you just wanted to get the hell out of there. Then she would complain that she only asked questions of people--no one seemed to want to know anything about her!
The thing is, we would have loved to know about her! Especially if it made the questions stop! If you're just asking questions hoping that people will ask them of you, then you're doing it wrong. It should definitely be a conversation, not an interrogation. I like the answers about following up with what you're doing after you ask them. That way you can start building common ground on what you're sharing.
Not sure if this story will be of any use to you but figure i'll say it anyway :)
I am exactly the same in terms of asking people questions. I love learning about the people i interact with and remember details because they actually interest me. When i started university i was 22 and i lived in halls with 7 people i had never met before, the first time i had lived away from home. I had a great year with the people there, and 6 of us became great friends. I did exactly as you said with learning so many personal stories and details about each of them and we really grew close, but i never brought up anything about myself. I answered the questions i was asked but in general i try not to go into too much detail as i feel like i'll be boring people with my stories.
So at the end of the year, we all get together and have a final meal before we all moved out in the summer. As we were so close we decided to go around the group and say our favorite thing about each other and also our least favorite thing, because we knew we could all take it without getting upset. To my surprise when they got to me the group were unanimous in that the negative thing was that they felt like they didn't know enough about me. They said they all often wanted to ask more but didn't because they felt like i didn't really want to discuss myself with them. Essentially i had been distancing them from getting to know me without even realising the whole time.
It taught me quite a good lesson. While i try not to randomly talk about myself in group conversations or bring up irrelevant information, i do make an effort now to actually say something about myself that relates to the conversation and just generally believing that people might actually want to get to know me and learn more about me as a person. I feel like it's made quite a big difference in terms of me actually becoming close with people and them knowing who i am.
If nothing else, people respond to your behaviour. If you seem reluctant to discuss yourself people will quickly stop asking, and while you might feel like nobody else is interested it might just be a case of them not wanting you to feel uncomfortable. You have to give out a bit of information to start with and the questions and interest will most certainly follow :)
I can't tell if you feel this is an issue for you, but im the same way- genuinely interested in people's experiences, opinions, etc. i am very private though, and prefer it that way. people don't ask because I give them nothing to ask about. put yourself out there a little and that will spark the conversation/questions. but also some people are just obliviously self centered.
Yea I'm this guy too. Heres the thing, I feel like sometimes people are so surprised and excited that someone is actually taking interest in what they are saying/talking about that they forget to ask questions sometimes, and that is fine by me. Honestly it is fun for me because I have always been a jack of all trades type person so people also get really surprised and excited when something comes up and they had no idea I could do that! I'm kinda the human form of "theres an app for that" which is cool with me, it is probably what I take pride in most. That, and the fact that people tell me they just naturally feel comfortable around me, which is forsure a result of being interested in them as well as encouraging and accepting of what they tell me. So, I know it makes you cringe, I used to get that too, but people probably love you and probably would love to hear about you for a change even if they aren't explicitly asking.
That's something I had to overcome. But you have to start somewhere. People want to listen. Tell cool or funny stories. Sometimes people don't laugh or find interest in what I say, but that's fine. I just shake it off by saying"No? Tough crowd" or something. Then they smile and life goes on
I feel the same. If we talked together a black hole would form
Mesha8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have to talk as well, otherwise it's not a conversation, it's an interview. If you want to talk aboit something, let's say a concert you went to. A good way to start conversation is by asking if the went, maybe one more follow up question. Then you tell them about you going. There needs to be a rytham of back and forth, telling and asking on both sides.
I always feel like I'm really self centred if I say anything about myself in a conversation. It's not as bad online, but I've had friends in real life who know nothing at all about me.
I think part of my mistake is I don't know what to ask people. I've been trying very hard to come up with questions on the fly and make sure that I ask things but I still think I need more work. Any extra advice would be super helpful.
I used to be like that for a long time, and then people started asking questions about me instead of just mentioning stuff about themselves while I listened.
Now I practically need to say stuff about me in conversations. I notice it, a lot, and it sucks 'cause I know I'm pulling attention to myself, but no one comments about it. Gotta re-learn to shut up and let others ramble.
at_home ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get this too, and i feel that when i meet new people im more likely to remmeber them but they wont really remember me.
I'm a bit like you. It really makes me feel good when I see someone again and ask them about the little things they told me and they are like, "Wow you remember that about me? Thank you, your so nice." Just know your attention is a real pick me up for a lot of people and so you give them a bit of joy. People will remember you as a kind person, that's what they will know about you.
Ashuvain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am in the same boat. Except for a small detail. The reason people barely ever ask questions about myself, is because I barely ever talk about myself, and the few times people do ask something about me I always try to answer the question as simply as possible without revealing too much about me. I just don't like the way I live my life and take no pride whatsoever in telling other people about me. I don't have confidence problems, I am perfectly fine with who I am and how I am around people, I'm just not satisfied with what I've achieved because my ambitions are so much greater than my daily actions that I just cannot fathom why I would want to tell anyone who I am.
I think a lot of us who are lonely are like that. We think other people don't care about us, but it's us who shut ourselves out from other people, and then they pick up on it and act accordingly.
Ugh this sounds like my workplace. I know so much about everyone's lives because I ask about their weekends, children, pets if that's their thing, whatever they've mentioned in conversation. I don't think anyone knows anything about me because I don't think they've ever asked.
frediiih ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me something about you please.
TKBaja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! And sometimes the only response is something about myself.
That is a huge social skill to have, but I don't think it's just a question of self-importance. Personally, I have a hard time asking people about themselves if I feel like they're above me. It's kind of hard to explain, but think of having a conversation with a kid, where you might ask them questions like do you like school, what grade are you in, what's your favorite class, and they'll answer but they won't have anything to ask you.
I guess what I'm saying is that not asking questions feels more like taking a submissive role in the conversation, rather than not caring about the other person.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I spent a summer working with someone like this. She was a fun coworker but by then end of the summer I knew every single thing there was to know about her and she didn't even know where I was from.
There's a balance to it. When people only ask questions it feels like an interview. Statements should be treated as an opportunity to contribute to a discussion, not the entirety of the discussion itself.
Asking question is part 1. Part 2 is actually listening to the answers people give you.
There is a woman I work with that is as nice as can be, but I avoid conversation as much as I can. She loves to start up a conversation with you with a question that is something you can answer, maybe something simple like "how you doing?", "did you have a nice holiday?", "you seen the new Star Wars movie yet?", etc. But once you start an answer, she interrupts and it is all about her.
Example conversation from when I came back from a trip to Las Vegas (not a word for word replication, but similar enough):
Her: Hey! How was Vegas?
Me: Oh great, we had a---
Her: My husband and I went to Vegas probably about 10 years ago, and it was just great. We stayed at Caesar's Palace, and it was just incredible how big it was. You are probably to young to remember this, but when I was younger there was a guy named Evil Keneval that would do all these tricks on his motorcycle. Jumping over stuff. Well years and years ago, he did a jump over the entire Caesar's Palace property! It was incredible. Of course when we went and I presume how it is now, Caesar's Palace is way bigger than when he did the jump.
Me: Yeah, it is pretty bi---
Her: Everything there is just so big and flashy. Can you believe how much money it takes to build one of those places? It is insane.......
........And on and on and on. Basically to the point where it seems obvious that she pretty much started a conversation with you so she could talk at you. The few times i have heard other people try to get words in edgewise (especially if the topic is something they care about) basically trying to talk over her, she just says "yep" one or two times then walks off.
TL;DR-- It is just as important to listen to people as it is to ask them questions.
I've been making a conscious effort to ask people about themselves and pay attention to what they're saying. I didnt really notice I was only paying attention to myself until I found some people sort of light up when you ask them about themselves. It made me feel good seeing them get happy about it. I like to make people laugh even if it means making an idiot of myself. So when I noticed they get happy about me asking about them, I added it to my mental list of how to make people happy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is literally everyone I work with.
Source: currently at work.
Exaskryz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, what kinds of questions are there to ask? Because I can't take in 50 points of information all at once such as your favorite kind of pizza or how you got your dog or what your cat's name is or how many sisters you have.
Because anything that I can ask that I can relate to, they probably don't care about. Oh, you look at cat pictures on the internet too? Awesome!
malvim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, listen to them when they answer. I've seen people ask questions just to be nice and never really listen to you when you talk. It's frustrating.
I think I have a problem with not knowing what kinds of questions to ask people. I wish it came more naturally.
A habit I also possess that I am not sure is bad is when someone tells me a story, a lot of the time I feel like I try to relate by sharing a similar experience I went through (broad, I know, but you get the idea). I'm not sure if that's bad practice but it usually stems from not having enough words at the tip of my tongue to say more than like "Oh that sucks or that's awesome!"
I'm one of those guys. And frankly, I don't ask questions because I don't anyone to ask questions about me. I find those sorts of questions annoying and a turn off.
So... I'm just doing what I'd like to have done to me. Am I uninterested? Yeah, kinda. But I expect it back and it makes me happy. And you learn things about people as you go, so I've never found it an issue.
This is what I'm terrible at. When I talk about to people I normally just talk about the usual stuff.
"Oh you're at a climbing place, how long have you been climbing?"
She's wearing a school shirt, "what are you studying?"
But beyond the obvious, I get stuck like a deer in headlights. Is there a way to learn those kind of social skills besides going out and winging it? I'm not a social recluse but I'm not a butterfly either.
Would like to learn
itaShadd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not always easy: some people are so uninteresting that you can't come up with anything to ask, bar general small-talk. But I guess that's the kind of people by which one doesn't care to be found attractive.
I do that too much, apparently. I'm experimenting by with talking about myself and then asking a related question, or asking and then answered by myself. It's a bit hit-and-miss so far, but it's getting better. Balance is good.
I'm one of these people you're talking about. I notice it and I hate myself for being that quiet not interested guy.
But it's not that I'm not interested, just as soon as someone is talking to me, my head is empty. Even simple questions like "How were your holidays" appear in my head hours after a conversation.
Xwolfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that depends sometimes - some people just wanna know stuff about other people so that they can then criticize said person for it or talk behind their backs about it. I personally prefer to talk to everyone myself (If they happen to be around that is).
ooplease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially hard when you actually are really self-centered
I do wish people didn't give half-assed replies to them all the time; I'd certainly be much more inclined to do so. Often it seems they are too busy doing what they are (which isn't typically anything). Ahh, but the goodness when they give a meaningful reply, it becomes worthy.
The aspect of this that is often overlooked is that it puts so much pressure on the person asking questions, because, without them, the conversation dries up.
Start with, "how was your day/how is your day going?". Hopefully you get more than a one word answer and you can build on their response.
If you just get a good/bad, follow up with "why? what happened?", or be more specific like, "work going okay?".
Once the ball is rolling it's easy to ask deeper questions about the topic at hand. Just start general and unassuming.
JorisK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To add to this: Ask people why they do/think/like things when they give you an answer. Oftentimes this leads to actual conversation and interesting remarks instead of a more 'interview'-esque conversation with 'shallow' answers.
I'm alright. Honestly, just crossing off the days until vacation in a few weeks. We're surprising the kids with a long weekend in Florida. They've only flown once, so I can't wait to see their reaction when we pick them up form school on a random Weds and head to the airport. :D
Cheers!
zedoktar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been trying to learn this but I never know what to ask. Part of it is my damned anxiety, makes my mind go blank and tongue lock up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I pride myself on smelling good. I'm a big guy, I look like a dork, I dress like a hobo but I smell fabulous. I love it when people tell me I smell good, because there's always that hint of surprise in their voice. I look like I should smell like pot and salty garbage, but I don't!
[deleted] ยท 853 points ยท Posted at 17:06:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what all do you mean by "smell nice?" I wear deodorant, but I don't know much about colognes and such, I'm all uncultured
Randyy1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:17:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go with an EDT (Eau De Toilette).
They usually have testers in stores, so bring a female friend, so she can tell you which one smells the nicest on you. A fragrance that works for your friend (or a youtube fragrance reviewer) might not work for you, we all have different natural odors that go better with some fragrances than others.
Apply 2-3 spritzes to the chest and the neck, right after showering. EDTs usually last 3-4 hours, so you would apply it before a date or whatever, so it's not an all day solution. If you want something longer lasting, go with a EDP (Eau De Perfume), which last 4-5 hours. EDC (Eau De Cologne) only last 2 hours or so.
adaminc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:28:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most importantly is that cologne is meant to be discovered, not announced.
IMO just go with an EDT, there are ones that last all day long and they usually have milder sillage so they don't smell across the room which is nice. Check out fragrantica.com.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:28:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a science to it! I went to a museum that had an exhibit on the science of perfumes and colognes. Why certain ones smell good to some people and bad to others. Also certain fragrances smell different whether they are applied to fabric or to your skin. It also had a giant machine with tons of buttons so you could combine different notes to make your perfect perfume.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:11:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is. You need to find a fragrance that mixes well with your natural scent. Based on your body chemistry the smell of cologne while wearing it may be different than how it smells in the bottle. Also many people tend to wear lighter more citrus like fragrances in summer and heavier scents like woods and leathers during winter.
Edit: Some grammar
_asfuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Biggest tip with cologne: don't wear too much. Like, one or two sprays. You can't smell it yourself due to olfactory adaptation but it'll still be there. You want girls to smell how nice you smell when they happen to get close to you. You don't want them to choke on the scent trail you left behind 5 minutes after you leave a room.
As for a recommendation: Burberry Brit Rhythm is possibly the cologne I've been complimented on the most.
I have a small unlabled bottle of generic mens cologne smell in my bathroom that I use from time to time sparingly. I've had it for years, I don't remember buying it and neither does my wife. For all I know it could be topical medicated spray for dogs, but it makes me smell nice when we go somewhere special. Never liked Axe or any of those other sprays that make you into a walking biohazard. Just shower, clean clothes and regular grooming.
Axe is okay if you pick the right kind. I'm a fan of their Pheonix scent as well as Peace. Not sure if they make it anymore, as I haven't seen it lately, but I had a gift set of it that was Metallic or something, had iron in it. Noticeably got compliments on smelling nice while I used that.
Exactly! They literally put instructions on the can. I think it's just one swipe from the top of the chest to the back of your neck? I don't even use that much. Still won't stop people from spraying a cloud of it on themselves. Not sure why I was downvoted for liking Axe though.
I make sure to shower and wear clean clothes. I just have some generic deodorant that smells kind of nice (I know not to wear Axe, at least) but I don't know what a good deodorant or cologne would be
FYI, every woman I know (myself included) loves the scent of the original Swiss Army cologne. I make my husband wear it because I love it so much, he could care less, lol. But I recommend trying that one!
l0te ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I work with you, a coworker is the exact same way! While he looks like a hobo and I dress in "nicer" clothes, pretty sure he smells better.
Unobud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that I often do smell of pot is the reason my personal hygiene game is so on point. Not going to work smelling like Harold and Kumars apartment.
I heard drakkar noir covers up pot best, but I don't smoke so I've never needed to try it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I smoke a lot of weed and have yet to come across something that actually covers up the smell of weed. I've worn some pretty fragrant cologne but it's a leaf in the bowl compared to the dank smell of bud.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a coworker who was, well, pretty obese. Not just fat but like "oh dear I hope he's going to be ok" kind of fat.
Anyway, you'd think a dude like that sweats and stinks, but this guy was always 100% fresh. He'd walk by and smell like he just stepped out of a spa shower. Totally changed my initial opinion of him. I wanted to tell him he smells nice because it was just that good but I thought I'd come off as a weirdo.
I wish my husband does this. He does shower in the morning before work, but after he gets home he is smelly again. Really don't want to hug him it kiss him after that.
413612 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you make yourself smell good? I wash with soap every night, and occasionally a spray of cologne. Is that all? How do I know I'm not the smelly kid?
-shrug- I'm comfortable wearing baggy jeans, t-shirts and hoods. My wife's opinion is the only woman's opinion that matters to me. She finds me sexy and vice versa. No model or anyone really could ever change that. :)
RallyUp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:14:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHO TOLD YOU!?!
FashBug ยท 760 points ยท Posted at 19:11:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to add something.
I used to find my skin so dry it would crack and bleed, even with lotion. My hair was so dry and frizzy I could pull it out without effort. I remember in middle school I was sent to the office because my hands bled all over my class work. I got a slip to see the doctor.
He told me to stop showering every day. My skin was being dried out constantly, and the lotion wouldn't work because I'd wash it off. My hair had no natural oil in it. It was stiff and frail. He told me to shower every other or every third day, and to use a washcloth on sweaty areas i.e. my face, pits, and breasts. He told me to only shower two days in a row if I had done a strenuous activity like a workout or yard work. And finally, I was told to start using artificial oil in my hair.
The difference is night and day. My hair is beautiful, my skin is soft and smooth, and I'm still hygienic and glowing. If anything, decreasing my showering increased my appearance.
I understand your point. Practice good hygiene. But if someone's reading this who doesn't shower everyday, you're not gross. Find a schedule that maintains both cleanliness and comfort in your own skin.
anumati ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:04:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, for those who tend to dry out: When showering, use the cool or tepid water if you can. Much better for skin and hair. Also not staying in there for ages. If you're not washing your hair, you can be in and out in 5 minutes or so. And only using soap/bodywash on areas that need it not everywhere.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:43:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. In another comment, I suggested staying in for 30-60 minutes. That being said, we don't want to waste time, water, and soap. We don't want to damage our skin unnecessarily.
Use cold water for as much washing as possible [e.g.: hand washing throughout the day]. The cooler, the safer it is for your skin.
On the other hand, cold water doesn't rinse out the soap as well, so we do have to figure out what works best.
If we need more time in the shower, then turn off the water, while lathering.
anumati ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The kind of soap can make a huge difference. I use olive or black soap. Gets me just as clean, way less harsh on my skin.
Yes avoid like the plague any products with sodium laureth sulfate - pure detergent (check hand wash too)
Calypte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:14:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get sulfate and parabens free shampoo from The Body Shop, and use Dr Bronners Magic Soap for my body. After my shower sometimes I put a tad of coconut oil in my hair while it's still wet as a leave-in conditioner. The state of my skin and hair has vastly improved since I switched to less harsh soap.
Yep, showering and soaping up all of your skin EVERY DAY is seriously bad for your skin (and if you use shampoo every day your hair will be a frizzy mess unless you're lucky).
But people still think you're disgusting if you don't shower every single day. Their loss, your doctor and you are right!
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:35:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use a shower cap when I take a shower. I need to wash everyday because I'm a janitor but my hair was getting really frizzy because of it. I've also started braiding it because ponytails would just cause knots (long hair) and buns killed the ends.
eelsify ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've started braiding my hair before sleeping and using coconut oil treatments, my hair is so lovely now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I use too much oil when I do it so I haven't. I have started the no poo thing again. I did it for a very long time until I got tired of having to make it.
eelsify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting the oil out of your hair is definitely the hardest part. Sometimes I have to shampoo like 2-3 times to get it out.
I was thinking of doing no-poo but I'm scared!!!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just make sure you rinse it all out. It won't hurt your hair at all. There's tons of recipes and stuff when you're doing the vinegar part make sure it's not a lot of vinegar to water otherwise you'll smell like a pickle and I think it makes your hair greasy. I think it's darkening mine but my hair fluxates from an ash blonde to a wheat blonde all the time.
conse105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
use apple cider vinegar diluted with water and rinse your hair with it. it makes it feel awesome and clean and the cider smell goes away after like half an hour.
Calypte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get fractionated coconut oil with a dropper bottle top. Put 10 drops in your hands (+ 1 drop essential oil if you're feeling fancy), rub together, then run your hands through your hair right after your shower while it's still wet. The wetness distributes the oil better than dry hair, and it's a small enough amount to not feel greasy while still making your hair feel soft.
It has more to do with how they smell and if they have shit on them rather than me asking how much they shower.
Chuurp ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:43:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the problem for most people is the transition period. If I were to shower every day for a couple months, then skip a couple days, my hair would get disgustingly greasy and I would get sticky and itchy. You need to find a time to suffer though the transition, then cut your frequency back and let your body adjust.
I absolutely understand, I've heard from more people that because of their excessive hair washing their hair gets disgusting after one day.
But to stop that you've got to power through that transition period indeed. Have you?
sogwennn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP, but I've moved to solely clarifying conditioner, no shampoo. The transition period wasn't long, but I still struggle with stretching conditioning because I struggle to find clarifying conditioners.
I play rugby and I probably end up working out anywhere between 7 to 10 times a week between weight workouts, practice and games. Because of this, I always shower at least once a day and a solid amount of the time, twice a day. Should I not be doing this? I mean my skin and hair seem fine but I don't want to fuck it up. I don't want to be walking around smelling bad all the time either though.
FashBug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:06:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no doctor, but if you're hygienic and comfortable, don't try to fix what isn't broken.
You still lose some oils. Even a plain-water shower can be drying for sensitive skin, especially depending on your tap water.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may have just changed my life. Thank you!
afettz13 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:42:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started the baking soda for shampoo and apple cider vinegar for conditioner. Works wonders for I'm between cleaning with out stilling the oils outta your hair!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another shampoo that is good is fermented rice water, common in Asia.
afettz13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:31 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was pretty much my advice here, but just to reiterate what FashBug said.
I'll probably shower every day, but that just means running water over myself. Every 2 or so days I'll use soap on my body, and probably once a week I'll shampoo my hair. You're body will naturally take care of it's self after about a week or two. You build up effective, no greasy oils and they keep you clean and stink free.
Yes, all of this. Finally my hair could grow past my shoulders after switching to washing it once every 4 days.
Nova8787 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I initially thought you were gonna try to sell something... Anyways, i have extremely curly, dry, brittle hair, learned a long while ago not to wash it everyday! It's much more manageable!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glowing?? Are you sure you arent using radioactive uranium as a lotion?
FashBug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So THAT'S why I've been able to read my cat's thoughts...
I was the same...felt like a wrinkled nasty prune with impossible hair until I went down to showering every three days. Yup, do the freshen up with a washcloth of the sweaty bits, day 3 I might use a bit of dry shampoo but that's rare now, and I look and feel so much better. I don't even need to moisturize any more. Saving time, saving money, win win!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I shower every day but don't use any products other than what's needed for brushing my teeth most of the time. I wash my hair about once every four days, the rest of the time I just tie my hair up and keep it dry. I get dry skin too, but ever since I stopped using most products I've been fine.
What kind of oil/how much do you put in your hair?
I have a fuck ton of hair but damn it gets frizzy so nowadays I only even get it wet once every few days or even once a week... cause the oils that build up actually keep it tame and decent looking.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of oil should I get? And you're saying to do it after showering without shampooing/conditioning? But while getting your hair wet?
FashBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I use Moroccan oil after a shower with shampoo and conditioner. While it's damp, but not dripping. I put it on my ends. My hairs so long, my natural oil never gets there.
Ok, you keep saying roots but for some reason I keep thinking you mean the ends of your hair. You mean you apply the oil directly onto your scalp and spread it down toward your ears? You don't apply it all the way down your hair?
FashBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:08 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooo, opposite. I mean roots as in where your hair comes from on the scalp. Do not oil there. Start at the ends.
Damn this post just confused me even more. So when you say start at the ends......... you mean the roots near your scalp? cause usually the ends of hair means.... the end not near your scalp XD
FashBug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:31 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A root is a place from where things can grow, namely your hair. Your roots are on your scalp.
This is important for a lot of people, I had a similar experience to yours.
Fun fact I recently learned - if you need to add moisture to your skin, put on oil (coconut, almond, etc.) while you're STILL WET FROM THE SHOWER. Lotion locks whatever moisture is (or isn't) on your skin in, so if you want to keep that part, do it after the oil to seal everything in.
Also, if you have frizzy hair, use a silk pillowcase, as cotton absorbs moisture (duh) and dries it out. Satin works too, but my skin would break out - silk breathes. I assume this is great for the skin too, saving up myself.
RallyUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for dashing the confirmation bias I had just absorbed. I was starting to think I needed to adjust my routine because I wouldn't fit in unless I wash (with soap and shampoo) daily.
I do it every other day or third day but I still shower daily to rinse off and hydrate the flesh under my pores.. And I still get dry skin but I cope with it for the most part.
I'm the opposite. The thought of not showering before leaving the house is terrifying. Even it I take a 3 hour nap I wake up all greasy.
Erzsabet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've decreased my hair washing to once a week (but bathe more often than that) and my hair went from frazzled to long, smooth, and shiny, even if I color it.
Yeah, my girlfriend has a really bad reaction to frequent showering and usage of soap but she substitutes it with lotions and there's this awesome bubble bath/shower gel that feels really good on her skin. She showers once every day or two but almost rarely uses soap and she still smells great. Likewise I have really mild eczema but get bad reactions on my armpits if I use deodorant often so I occasionally (twice a week, ish) exfoliate my armpits to clean out my pores and reduce sweat build-up.
tl;dr you have to find the routine that suits you while maintaining your health and hygiene. Don't feel weird because you don't do what's "normal". Everyone is different!
This also varies from person to person. My skin produces way too much oil to do this. Not washing my hair just results in terrible oiliness.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:02:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. North Americans are the only people on this planet that shower every day, it's so weird, and totally unnecessary. Yeah maybe for that small part of the population that gets really smelly in one day it's necessary, but for most people it's doing more harm then good.
All scent should be limited to your personal space. Pleasant or not, nothing should be detectable beyond a couple of feet away.
This makes scents much more attractive because the scent is more exclusive. You only capture the scent by chance or if you were invited into the person's personal space. Super hot or super creepy depending upon the people involved.
Being clean and well-groomed goes a long way. Wearing too much cologne can be a major turn-off for those of us with allergies to fragrances...it's great when you take her breath away with a romantic gesture, but not so much when it's because of allergy-induced airway constriction.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:24:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that in general, if people can smell your cologne without invading your personal space, you're using too much of it.
I love the smell of just a clean person. Not one who is doused in Cologne or perfume, but one who smells like soap and as if they just hopped out of the shower. It is a huge turnoff when someone has doused themselves in perfume or cologne (a very subtle spritzing is okay though).
Honestly, even most people without allergies to perfumes and colognes don't like it either. It always brings me back to memories of the smell of middle school hallways... Barf.
montagic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably around people who are still wearing old spice. A nice, uninvasive cologne does wonders, especially when it's nicer quality.
Oh god this guy at my work you can smell his cologne after he's been in the toilet 15 minutes later. Normally can smell him 10m before he gets to your desk, he must go through liters of it and half the girls LOVE it and the other half are like "dude tone it down" its quite funny
Psych555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a choice, do you want to have general appeal towards everyone or maximum appeal towards a smaller fraction of the population.
I just started binge watching..again. And I honestly don't shower everyday. if i do then i don't wash my face or hair, only my body. my hair has never looked better btw.
Yeah, no, I agree that you don't have to shower everyday. My friends seem to agree, too, so I don't feel weird about it. And absolutely true about the hair, coming from a guy with thick hair.
Showering every day is bad for your skin and hair, im a guy with long really thick hair so I wash it every second day and it stays clean way longer and my skin is no where near as dry as it used to be when I showered daily. I dont start smelling like sweat and b.o after 1 day, maybe if your doing physical exercise then have a rinse afrer but if not no need to shower every single day. Just make sure when you do shower you soap up and wash your asshole otherwise the smell of sweaty feces permeates through the air
Grazer46 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:54:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every day is overkill though. Taking a shower every day can have negative effects (Too lazy to find the sources right now, though), so I shower every other day instead. I still smell nice, and it's better for my skin.
mapguy ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:50:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except that washing everyday is bad for your skin. Wear deodorant every day and wash every other day.
Showering every day regardless of activity level is actually bad for your skin/hair/immune system. Every 2-3 days is more preferable.
Of course, this goes out the window if you're physically exerting yourself (either by working out or by an active job) OR if you're in an environment where cleanliness is important (medicine).
Otherwise, save the water, save your skin, save some time.
I would like to know more about this "smell nice" please.
I usually just slap on deo and call it a day, and shower twice a day. While I know nothing about colognes and other fragrances (I really don't; am not Jon Snow though), I'm wondering if that's what you're referring to with "smell nice".
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:47:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Showering twice a day seems like a lot...
But honestly just use bodywash in the shower, deodorant, wear clean clothes, and brush your teeth and you should smell fine. I rub some Cologne on my wrists/neck if I'm dressing up, otherwise smelling "neutral" is fine.
I don't know much about other people's routine, but I've actually been told that by other friends before but never thought much about it because I've done it that way for many years. I'd like to put it to you here to see if it is indeed weird/excessive:
Every morning I'll shower before work, and I'll shower once more after I come back. Whenever I shower I also shampoo my hair, in addition to using a soap bar and facial wash after. I like showering twice because I cannot stand the oily feel I get after a long day; my face feels oily, sometimes my body feels icky and my hair gets oily too. I'm starting to wonder if showering so often (and shampooing) is causing my hair to shed more as well (I don't have MPB but my hair is quite thin that I can see the scalp).
Thanks for your insight!
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:14:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They say you're not even supposed to shampoo your hair every day, let alone twice a day. Nothing wrong with an extra shower but consider using less product.
Personally I wash my hair twice a week (long hair) as otherwise my hair becomes really dry and brittle from stripping the oils and falls out a lot way more so that may help.
I've grown up applying a mixture of coconut and almond oils to my hair before I shower. I slightly heat up the mixture before application and leave the mask on over night but even 20 minutes is good. It's helped with the dryness, sped up growth and less hair fall out.
With shampoo and soap you aggressively remove ALL OILS from the skin (you dry that shit out). Twice a day?!
That'll only cause overproduction of hair oil probably in the end.
My hair is oily and my skin gets oily (and flaky in the shower).
Yeah thanks to the other redditors I've realized my mistake now.
EDIT: haven't had anyone share the shower with me point that out to me explicitly and I've been living like that since I was young and thought it was normal
Do you have a procedure on how to narrow the selection down to what you'd like?
KMFDM781 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I ask random female co-workers....troll the fashion subreddits and ask...you can get a pretty good idea from those. Generally speaking, a good cologne isn't cheap....expensive scents smell expensive and classy...
Keep in mind that some colognes work better with your natural body chemistry and make you smell amazing. Buy magazines that have samples in them, open the flaps and rub them onto your arms...it's enough to tell how they will work with your body.
I usually ask my girl friends if they like my cologne. So I guess the answer is get samples of what you personally like, then ask your close girl friends.
On that note, while wearing cologne/perfume can make you smell nice, wearing too much has a negative effect. People don't need to be able to smell you across the building or have a coughing attack while standing near you. Something subtle goes a long way.
Having good smelling Cologne does some good shit for you. As long as you don't go overboard and no one can smell you from 15 feet away, it will definitely spark some people's interest.
It's gotten to the point where not showering is an actual choice I have to make, whereas roll out of bed get in shower is completely standard. And this is as a guy who has problems making habits (ADHD).
Why? As a teenager I was told a few times that I smelled bad, once or twice at a job. I can't smell. Learning from somebody else was horrifyingly embarassing, so now I just live in a perpetual fear of my own stink, which is completely undetectable to me. If my only activity on a given day is a quick run to the grocery store I still shower before going. I own zero sweatpants. There are no sweatpants days for me. I shower before doing ANYTHING that involves going outside the house.
Problem is, when you met people who are bombarded with perfume ads and they don't remember anymore how human species smells. So even if you wash yourself every day, you still smell awfully for them, because you don't remind them of some kind of fucking walking fruit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*wash yourself thoroughly = getting down and scrubbing your legs and feet. Soapy run off from your torso is NOT sufficient.
I'd like to emphasize this part seeing as how so many disgusting turds don't understand this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hothr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear something with the swiss flag on it. Its a big plus.
Crash324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't shampoo everyday.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone whose worked in sales, nothing would get me to walk away from someone faster than if they smelled bad. Sometimes their scent was literally unbearable. It was at a computer store too and this was a common occurrence there.
However, try not to wash your hair every day. Skip a day in between every washing. Your hair won't balance the oils and it will become dry and frizzy on some days and overly oily on others.
Do you really need to take a shower every day, though? A person can keep themselves clean and present themselves as such without dumping gallons of water down the drain every day. The opposite extreme is someone like my brother who seems to never shower and walks around in a perpetual cloud of stink-like Pigpen. I think every other day is a completely viable alternative.
devatrox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every two days is enough.
Woyaboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, unless you actively sweat or have a job that gets you really dirty, you're not supposed to wash everyday.
I don't bother with a full shower every day, you can easily get away with an "essentials" shower inbetween. Face, pits, crotch, ass - done. Saves water and you won't dry out your skin as easily.
ALTHOUGH...You do not have to wash your hair every day (or actually even your body). You're hair and body builds up natural, effective oils to keep your self clean and smelling okay. I'll wash my body with soap every other day or two, and just hot water and a washcloth otherwise. I'll wash my hair maybe once a week. It takes a week or two for your hair to get used to taking care of it's self, but it'll look a lot better soon and it'll take way less maintenance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That said, it's better for your hair if you don't shampoo it everyday. It may start off getting oily really fast, but if you fall into a routine, it will produce less oil. Your hair will be healthier for longer in life.
Envy121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's more important is actually changing your clothes every day. You can get away with the occasional no shower day, but the same clothes...don't do it.
Synux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being clean and smelling good are important but be careful with the overuse of shower soap. Suds up the pits and the bits always but the rest is pretty good with a rinse and maybe a little loofah. The idea is that you don't want to scrape off what your body needs only to then rub in some lotion to synthesize the stuff you just deleted.
Murgman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on the person. If I shower everyday my skin gets dry and irritated.
Taking a shower EVERY DAY is pretty bad for your hair and skin, it sloughs off the natural oils.
Zapsie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a bonus, always wear deodorant/antiperspirant in your armpits (and your legpits if you're feeling classy) and never wear clothes multiple days in a row without washing them. Not even jeans, and especially not underwear or socks.
Smelling nice isn't about wearing aftershave or perfume. It's about being healthy. I don't often encounter people who put aftershave or perfume over sweat, but it's revolting.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:01 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
every other day unless it's absolutely necessary*?
Taking showers every day is supposedly very damaging.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:06:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be in the top 5 tips. I've met quite a few people who think it's ok to skip washing for a day or more.
They do it because of dry skin or something similar, but a much more reasonable approach is to shower and scrub every day with water and just skip the harsh cleaning agents.
P.S. I would guess this seems pretty radical to some people, but scrubbing with water alone is 100% better than skipping a day of washing.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was hanging out with some friends and the topic of showering came up and I was like the only one that consistently showered every day. That's just weird to me, I hate feeling gross after a couple days of No hygiene.
KMFDM781 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to skip a day and I just can't...I feel like I'm swimming in bacteria and my own sauce in the morning...I have to smell and feel fresh.
kccogirl ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 20:58:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let your problems define who you are.
I know a few people who have nothing to talk about expect for their bipolar depression, or their failed relationships, or how they have no friends, etc etc.
You shouldn't ignore these things, or pretend they don't effect you, but those are the sorts of things that people who are close to you get to know. Don't bring them up in casual conversation or a first date.
Kccogirl is on point. I might even say that if said issues are something you want to resolve; depending on what they are maybe counseling? As some of my closest friends have told me, you need to be able to be happy while being single if you want to be in a healthy relationship. It has taken me some time and thinking to understand that this does not mean flipping some sort of switch and going "oh ok I'll be happy with what I got e.t.c." Events will happen which will make you unhappy and possibly for a while. I have gone through phases like this when recent events made me extremely unhappy. I did go for counseling for a little and stopped but I plan on going again. Of course I'm just speaking from experience.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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kccogirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course the people closest to you will know, and if you are going to be in a serious relationship with someone they'll need to know about any medical/mental health issues you have, but that's the stuff you talk about after you're close with someone.
When you're getting to know people, that is your chance to show the best/most interesting things about yourself.
I highly doubt that any problems you have in your life are the only interesting things about yourself. If you feel that way, first seek some help via counseling and second work on developing your skills and hobbies. Develop things that you are more proud to talk about than your problems.
mkameli ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 22:26:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't exactly simple, but it's the most important: identify and confront your big personal flaws or shortcomings.
For me, it was realizing and accepting I had an anxiety problem, and so I bit the bullet and spent a year working with a counselor on that, and it changed my life.
At the same time, I stopped thinking so much about why I wasn't seeming to be attractive to women, and focused instead on trying to live really fully and openly: I trained for and ran a marathon (had a lot of time on my hands), read a bunch, went to lots of concerts, and got over my fear of rejection by going on a lot of first dates. Nobody who's emotionally healthy will want to be a solution to your loneliness problem โย they'll be a person with a full, vibrant life who sees you as someone who also has a full, vibrant life that's worth sharing.
Now, I feel like it was all a book and its left the niggling feeling of incompleteness.
What happened to the guy? Did the Shining Wizard addle his brain farther? Did A-ko ever tell him that he could have found any other hooker for a lower price, b that because she knew him she hiked the price? Did Denko ever marry his brother?
So many questions.
myrden ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:24:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As funny as that is it's still pretty creepy in its own way.
You know, it's funny that you say this, because I was recently robbed of the woman of my dreams because her ex planted gps tracking software on her phone and constantly called her and followed her when she left her house. This happened more than a few times when we went out together.
She said we couldn't see each other because, and i quote, "He must really care about me if he's being this persistent."
Great way to ring in the new year, 11/10 would recommend.
Forgive me. I feel it againโฆ the call from light. Supreme Leader senses it. Show me again. The power of the darkness, and nothing will stand in our way. Show me, grandfather, and I will finish what you started.
folderol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a very good method. It is also appropriate to have cat vomit in your pocket and to rub dog feces your body to show that you are an animal lover.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:18:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't know how I can justify spending a lot of money on cologne without having the ability to try different kinds, see what I like. But yeah, no doubt cologne > Axe.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:41:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is awesome, I expect to see scentless shampoos and deodorants in my future! I just got a small 1ml of Green Irish Tweed by Creed from DecantShop. So I will start there and see where I can branch to find something I like.
Have travel version's of those things in your car and office in case shit hit's the fan. Baby wipes, mouthwash, tooth brush, deodorant. If you keep smelling something throughout the day it is probably you. I heard about artificial saliva recently, use it like Visine if you have dry mouth day or night.
I see these things a lot in threads like this. Is this really a struggle for a lot of people? Don't get me wrong it's good advice but damn it seems like common sense to me.
BZLuck ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:34:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perfume and cologne should be discovered not broadcasted.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This does not mean shower yourself in perfume.
Don't forget that cologne & perfume aren't the only things that contain perfume. If you're putting perfume on after your scented shampoo, conditioner, soap, lotion, and deodorant, you won't smell clean. You'll smell like a baby prostitute.
That's an amazing way of putting it. What do you reccomend how much you should use? Just a spray on the chest? (I do armpits because they can smell about 6 hours into work if I don't)
Vetches1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Know any good deodorant that isn't Axe? Been trying to find a totally not expensive one and have failed thus far.
Chances are.. we're mostly adults here. We know how to apply a reasonable amount of spray-on deodorant. This isn't middle school and we're not inflating our tshirts with a cloud of Axe every time we go to our lockers. The stuff smells good when using as directed.
You can get body wash, traditional stick deodorant / antiperspirant, and spray on (which is a fine replacement for expensive cologne) all in the same fragrance so you don't smell like walking by the perfume counter at Macy's, and it can be found in just about any grocery, drug, or megamart store there is.
Stop perpetuating Axe as the Nickelback of men's care products. Sure, their naming schemes are laughable.. and we've all had experiences with douchebags that love them too much.. but get over it already! There's much worse out there to categorically hate on.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if my teeth look like i ran in to a brick wall and im too poor for braces?
HerraIAJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would recommend brushing teeth before smiling, please don't ruin any lives here mister yatter.
c_dawg7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use Lynx Dry (the UK version of Axe). Yes, it has teenage connotations but it is seriously the best anti-perspirant I've been able to find and I'm a sweaty guy. I don't need to use much and always use a small amount of aftershave so I smell of that when people get close enough to smell it.
lambda26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to smell nice. Buy a body wash and wash everywhere especially under your arm pits. Wear an antiperspirant(not just deodorant, looking for the sporting stuff ) in your arm pits. Then on casual/sweaty days wear your body spray(axe) apply >1 second of spray under each arm and chest and back. For formal or try hard days use a cologne. One spritz on neck and one on chest. Brush your teeth and use mouth wash. Keep gum in your car or pocket for after smelly meals. Do this everyday you don't know how bad you smell so don't rely on that.
The Axe holes are the worst, especially in middle school when my immune system was still so fragile. I believed I had an allergic reaction because every time I smelled it suddenly I couldn't breathe anymore.
Its just as bad when girls fucking douse themselves in that shit. It I'm standing next to you and can smell you, fine. If I'm a cubicle over and can smell you, well, you need to go unfuck yourself
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And floss too! There is nothing worse than meeting a cutie and getting close to them, only to discover that their mouth smells like rotting turds with black shit in between their teeth.
I don't use it as a normal deodorant, but use it for "oh my god, I just finished a lot day of work but my feet smell horrible and I don't have extra socks" type of situations.
It's great for those sorts of emergencies.
anarchyz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy clothes that fit well; as rule of thumb just a little slimmer than you think you need is usually just right.
Work on walking without looking at the ground, shoulders slightly back and slightly down.
General hygiene. Pay attention to your hair, use a repairing lotion on your skin / face, wear something that smells good without needing a reason, brush your teeth.
Make eye contact with people talking to you
In the spirit of New Years, it also wouldn't be terrible to pick up a gym membership and check out your meal portions on occasion.
To expand on the last point and for anybody who recently picked up a gym membership as part of a resolution here are some tips on making your time commitment effective.
Stop considering it a resolution and start considering it just how you live now. Fitness never really stops, diets never really stop. It's about changing who you are rather than "trying something out". To that end you should ease yourself into whatever you do. Don't suddenly go from 3,000 cal/day to 1400 cal/day because some website told you. Drop down 250 cal/day each week (wk1 - 2750 cal/day, wk2 - 2500 cal/day, ect.) from whatever you eat now into something more appropriate and you won't feel like you're sapped of your mortal energy.
On the topic of food, there's a common phrase "You'll never outrun your calories" that's absolutely true. The only way to lose weight is to take in less calories than you use. Anybody who has ever used a treadmill for 20 minutes just to find it reports they've only burned 180 calories knows you'll never "run off that milkshake". The only real way to use more than you eat is to eat less. Drink LOTS of water, eat calorie efficient foods (see: veggies), and avoid calorie dense things like butter, 2% / Whole milk, certain types of bread, pasta (there seems to be some confusion here. I'm not saying your diet itself is to avoid those foods. I'm saying those foods will use up a lot of your calorie budget without making you feel full / satisfied at the end of the day. They are absolutely fine to eat, you just may find it difficult to stay within' budget). Trust me, diets only suck for the first week until your stomach contracts to suit your new intake. You'll stop being hungry, and it'll make you feel good.
The gym by and large is for building muscle / structure (edit: changed from "toning" which is to ambiguous), not losing weight. When coupled with a diet it can be insanely effective but it should never feel like a "job" or "chore". Pick a certain time of day, pick certain days of the week, and do them like clockwork. You'll find it much much easier to fall into a schedule than you will to sporadically go when it's convenient. Make the gym a kind of club you attend. Make friends there, be a regular, chat it up with the girl at the check in counter, be courteous. Be the kind of person you'd want to meet at the gym.
Weigh yourself at regular intervals (edit: previously said everyday but that's more what works for me and not always good advice for everybody), and track that shit no matter how ugly it might get. You need to see the positives, and you need to see the negatives. You need something to look back on to recognize patterns in your habits. I'd suggest either MyFitnessPal or LoseIt!
MOST IMPORTANTLY you're there for nobody other than yourself. It doesn't matter what weight the guy 2 benches down is putting up, you don't know his story and couldn't possibly compare your experiences. All that matters is you, where you started, and where you are now. Nobody but you looks at that scale every morning, nobody but you plans out your meals, and nobody but you feels the benefits of your actions. You deserve it, you've got a stud / babe inside you waiting to get out, and nobody but you can carve that marble.
Edit - Helping others and offering advice is one of my true passions in life. I love seeing people happy with themselves and feeling the excitement inherent to making progress. I've long since had to stop responding to comments in this thread, but if you want advice, or simply to shoot the shit about a healthy lifestyle please don't hesitate to PM me. Have a great start to your 2016 everybody!
[deleted] ยท 780 points ยท Posted at 14:42:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
to add a little to that
smile
treat people well (like you'd like to be treated as well)
if you don't have time or money for the gym, try to daily or at least weekly do a little excercise. push ups, jumping jacks, lifting a 1L bottle of water in each hand (equals 1kilogram each) and taking a run al work wonderfull.
most important thing to see the results is to keep it up. keep it simple and it'll be easier to keep your commitment (try 12 pushups every second day for example)
[deleted] ยท 207 points ยท Posted at 17:53:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
most important thing to see the results is to keep it up
Very true. I've been doing push ups every day for the past few months, usually when waking up and/or before going to bed. About 20-80 throughout the day.
It works, chest feels and looks better. All of that for less than 10 minutes a day, every day.
Consistency is key.
Something we did in my taekwondo studio was "50 push ups in 50 days"
Basically, you start off on day 1. You do one push up when you wake up, and 1 push up before you go to sleep. Then day 2, you do 2 when you wake up and 2 before you go to sleep. Then day 3 you do 3, and so on until day 50. Every day, you're only doing 1 more push up than the day before. If you have to split it up into increments of 10 or 12, that's ok. Just take a few seconds to catch your breath and shake out your arms, as long as you do all the push ups scheduled. 50 push ups is not as hard as it sounds, and doing them every day helps you get better and helps get exercise into your routine. After day 50, you keep doing push ups, and maybe other exercises too. I did a modified version of this, where I would do 2 sit ups for every push-up, so I ended the 50 days with 50 push ups and 100 sit ups. I really recommend this to anyone who wants to try exercising at home more
Ooh similar to what I'm doing now. I want to do 1000 push ups in January. I started with 18 on January 1st, 19 on the 2nd, 20 on the 3rd, etc. On January 31st I will do 48 for a cumulative total of 1023.
Current plan is if this goes well, continue on February 1st starting with 55(short month, boo) and I'll end up doing 83 on the 29th for a total of 2001 in February. 82-112 in March for 3007, 119-148 in April for 4005.
Looks like I have some catching up to do! But I'd love to join you on that! also reading some other comments, some people have said you should do a pulling exercise to counteract the push ups as well.
Yes do it! I'm ramping up like this for a physical event I'm doing in May. I have a pull up bar that I haven't used much but am trying to get into it. It's a top of the door frame kind and it just feels wrong because I'm so tall.
Moter8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:59:07 on February 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not actually good though, you aren't progressing at all. Look at /r/bodyweightfitness for a good workout. Only doing way too many reps of pushups is NOT good.
And as everyone likes to say every time motivation is mentioned: Motivation is good, but it comes and goes, whereas discipline is always there. You might feel motivated to do something one day, but not the next, whereas if you're disciplined then you'll do it each day regardless of how you feel on that particular day.
Point taken and truth be told, just like motivation and commitment, you can't buy discipline either. If you buy gimmicks in hopes of them making you work out, is itself an exercise, in futility.
jblv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I've been in a pretty strict workout routine for around 6 months now, and i just got a fitbit for Christmas. I like this little bastard. It may be uncool, but i really like the heart rate monitoring during my workouts, it actually pushes me to go harder.
Trying to get this going for me too. My day job has me at a desk all the time, so I've been doing flutter kicking while I'm sitting just to stay active. Gonna try working in a few push ups after I get put of bed.
Hopefully the weather changes soon. Rain kinda sucks for biking.
watrasei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How long did it took you to see results ?
I've been trying it some month ago, along with eating better (no more soda, less fat etc.) and i've not been able to keep up for more than a month because i've seen abolutely no result and it was just awful to see that
Wondering why you're the first person to mention smiling so far. Smiling is the number one most attractive thing to me and virtually everyone close to me.
Investing in a $20 door frame pull-up/chin up/hammer bar will work your arms and back more effectively than curling 1kg weights daily but totally agree with the rest.
3PNK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or don't smile, when I smile I look like I'm missing a missing chromosome, but I look just fine with a straight face.
don't hold a fart in, you look akward and uncomfortable.
Codazoa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could do jumping jacks. Any jumping of any kind and I hear popping in my head and get a horrible headache. If I stand up I get light headed and almost pass out. And last time I did push ups I did 10 and I was sore for 3 days. Probably because I haven't worked out for 6 years.
triethan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat people the way they want to be treated
FTFY
Moore0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Treat people as you would like to be treated."... I'm a masochist. This just validats what I would like to do... But seriously treat other people like you would want you mother to be treated...
I totally disagree. I want to be dominated in bed. I definitely am not going to dominate my partner if that's what I want. I mean, I'll do it if they ask but that's the point.
Treat others like they want to be treated.
bl0bfish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:53:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you don't have time or money for the gym
It only takes maybe an hour to get a good workout in. For example, if you do some kind of High Intensity workout you will need to warmup (Maybe 15 minutes) and then workout for probably another 8-20 minutes? Time is a good excuse for someone that doesn't want to put in the effort.
And arent most gym memberships like $10/mth for a anytime fitness 24/365 gym?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
time is a serious thing for most people. and it takes a lot of dedication to continue to spend a hour at the gym when you have other obligations each week.
Some people don't have the means of transportation to go to the gym.
Some places don't have gyms.
Some people hardly make ends meet each month.
And some people are embarrassed to go to the gym
The thing is, you want to make it (the training) a part of your life.
To get results you need te be dedicated.
To keep dedicated you have to keep it achievable. That means small goals and slowly building it up.
Keep it small, keep it simple and get routine. That's the key for starters.
fynx07 ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 17:38:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Trust me, diets suck for the first week until your stomach contracts to adjust to your new intake.
It took me several times of dieting to finally realize that. It made the first week of my new diet so much easier to bear. It's absolutely true. Mine usually happens after only about 3-4 days. I go from eating a whole plate of food at Applebee's to usually eating less than half of my meal from Wendy's.
Also, cut out the eating fast food as much as humanly possible. Even the smallest stupidest meal you can get is going to be loaded with wasteful calories. You can go home and (I'd highly recommend a George foreman grill) quickly and easily make yourself a much healthier, calorie efficient burger meal. Plus as you are patting out the burger, you can throw in all different kinds of sauces and seasonings to customize your burger and make it 1,000 times better than that micky D's. Grab some different spices from your grocery store and experiment. The spices are cheap for copious amounts and will make your diet much more bearable.
It sounds like you've done this a few times already, what's causing you to go back to eating a whole plate of food? I honestly couldn't return to my previous habits at this point.
fynx07 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:24:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Weak willpower and people around me aren't helping. Everyone keeps saying "oh eat some more! Eat more there is still plenty left!" over and over until I eventually just give in, or if I accidentally miss a meal/snack (good way to keep your stomach shrinkage is eat small meals with small snacks in between. Keeps the stomach constantly fed with small amounts of food so it doesn't balloon up with bigger less frequent meals) and then I get hungry and scarf large amounts of food. Or drink one soda one day then start binging on them again. Soda is another huge empty calorie thing. Just cutting that out can have a huge impact on weight loss.
That and my wife is very self conscious so she tries to get me to eat more so she doesn't feel as bad about herself while she is pregnant. Once our daughter is born, my wife will end up back on dieting and working out and it'll be easier on us both. I'm 5'7 and 180 lbs, so I'm not skinny by any means, despite her constantly telling me I'm "too skinny".
Oh I had that at the start. People either encouraging me or teasing me to eat more; I snapped one time (might also have been a bit drunk) and told the girl teasing me, and I paraphrase, "shut your fat bitch mouth before I ram this plate down your throat". No one bothered me with stupid bullshit like that after that episode. Nowadays I just say "no, thank you" and smile when I don't want to eat something/anymore.
I also don't start hating myself or feeling guilty if I do slip up or just plain don't think about what I'm eating. Shit happens and I'll be ok in the long run; but that rarely happens nowadays. For example if the whole office is having pizza i'm not about to go all lame and refuse to eat because it's high calorie or whatever the fuck; I'll just chow down and have a good time and maybe offset it somehow in the following days.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:04:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"shut your fat bitch mouth before I ram this plate down your throat"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well, that counts, and it's damn amazing.
Endur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me, the diets are alway a temporary measure. The goal is to get to 11% or 10% bodyfat and then increase how much I eat to gain muscle mass. Usually I get a little too enthusiastic and diet again in 3-4 months
Also, replace snacks with water. Hits the oral fixation and helps fill the stomach a bit, plus is actually good for you and does not contribute to your caloric intake, plus actually increases metabolism.
fynx07 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:34:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely this too. Might make you pee every 20 minutes (it does me anyhow) but it makes a big difference you can feel.
ya27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find replacing snacks with hot tea works much better than water, especially in the winter. Still doesn't contribute to caloric intake, but it also gives the added motivation of interesting flavors and aromas.
Eh, I'd rather pretend I'm a captain of industry, like Rockefeller or Carnegie or in the more modern sense, Bezos or Musk.
Only way I know to do that is to not sleep.
gsfgf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:41:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd highly recommend a George foreman grill
Imo, there are far better ways to cook meat. Georgia Foremans just leave you with a dried out burger. Don't be afraid of fat just because it's fat; the amount of fat in lean beef is completely fine and makes the meat taste a lot better. Fat isn't what gets people; it's all the super calorie dense sugars and refined carbs.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How well does it work for pressing sandwiches? I currently put the bread and cheese in the toaster oven to melt the cheese and ever so slightly (basically just warm) the bread and microwave the cold cuts for my sandwiches. I like the result, but I'm always looking for easier/better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm... I don't know if you saw my ninja edit with my current method. But I don't have a toaster oven at work. So I may try bring the GF so I can bring a pre-assembled sandwich and just cook it in the GF. So cooking spray is necessary but works fine? (Can't do butter or mayo on the diet)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
La Madeleine
They still exist? The one near me went out of business more than ten years ago.
I read that as girlfriend and thought you were trying to make a joke but then the punchline never came. Then I figured out you were abbreviating George Foreman.
Also, don't "diet." Make life changes you intend to stick with. Viwiing it as something temporary will make it exactly that. Find things you don't love and start working to cut them down/out of your diet. Do you really love pop? How about the junk food everyone leaves around the office all the time? Starting with these thinfs sill make it easier to stick with the changes and aill help you develop willpower to abstain from the harder stuff later.
ya27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, when I start focusing on my favorite foods that I am allowed to fit into my calorie limit instead of obsessing about what I can't have, calorie restriction becomes easier. I get up every morning with the mindset of, "Okay, I have a fresh set of calorie currency to spend today. What delicious foods am I going to choose to pay for today?"
It also removes guilt from the equation when you have junk food cravings, but find a way to fit them into your calorie goal.
Sounds like you've got the right mindset. Thanks for wading through my typi-riddled post (what happens when I'm on my phone) and good luck with your goals!
I go from eating a whole plate of food at Applebee's to usually eating less than half of my meal from Wendy's.
This was good for me to read post-holiday gluttony. Currently going from being able to demolish three full plates of food plus one of dessert at a Mediterranean buffet to 2000kcal/day. Day 2 and I am hungry but everything will be back to normal soon...being back at work is a blessing for my daily calorie intake.
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you mate! Stick with it and don't let anyone get you down about it, especially not yourself.
Also, was super confused for a minute. I read 2000kCal instead of 2000kcal. Makes more sense when I pay attention to capitalization.
God, that first week, that's the hurdle I need to overcome, I keep failing :/
I'm pretty excited that my current relationship has moved to the "Hanging out" phase, so we're spending more time at each other's places. It's allowed me more opportunities to cook and break us away from eating out together 3-4 nights a week. I've already started leaving several cooking utensils and pans at his place so I have more to work with, and he really appreciates it because home cooked food can, and will, taste better than any restaurant once you get it down. And hopefully help me lose some of this weight I've acquired recently.
fynx07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck! And remember, if you can make it the first day, you can make it the next day and after a few days, you won't even begin to feel hungry anymore. Also, try smaller meals with small snacks in between, don't starve yourself between meals!
Thanks! I've lost ~40lbs back in 2014, but gained back 15lbs over the last few months, I had a few rough months as my mother lost her battle with cancer, but my will power is recovering again, I kicked cigarettes for the 2nd time, and now just to get back to my 135lbs that I want to be :)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I can barely eat half of a small Wendy's chili, which is bad now because I need to eat more carbs since I've been diagnosed with T1D.
eazolan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:13:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't sound like a diet, that sounds like starving to death.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually feel really full after. My parents pretty much try anything to get carbs in.
eazolan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's 90 calories. That is not enough to live. You need help.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:49:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see a lot of comments saying dieting sucks for that first week, but then your body gets used to it and everything is fine. I have a pretty bad fast food addiction and I've tried to quit several times. My last failed attempt I went 2 months eating healthy and constantly felt like I was going to break and go back to my poor eating habits.
Right now I'm three weeks into dieting again and the cravings are killing me. I seriously had a dream the other night that I was eating bottomless French fries.
ya27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a fellow fast food addict, my advice would be to focus on your calorie count right now, rather than try to limit the type of food you eat.
I've been happy with my weight loss progress taking this route with the help of MyFitnessPal. For me, this has involved fast food several times a week, and not just salads. The key is that I never exceed my calorie limit. On heavy fast food days, I just make sure my other meal of the day is very light, and sometimes I have to forgo snacking. But I love certain fast food meals so much that it is worth it for me.
Letting yourself have whatever guilty cravings pop up (while first making sure you can still stay under the calorie limit if you eat it) is a much better way of losing weight for people like me who get these intense, obsessive cravings. Sometimes I even take a few bites, realize that my craving is already satisfied, and keep the rest as leftovers for a future craving.
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many Calories did you go from and how many are you eating now? Dropping too quick can make it hard, also, are you drinking lots of water and eating small snacks between meals?
Third, what kinds of foods are you eating? Some foods are low calorie but also don't fill you up for shit. Some foods like cheeses, chicken, peanut butter etc are a little higher in calories but fill you up a lot longer.
Not only is eating out bad for your calorie budget, but also your monetary budget. So many people struggle with money and yet grab fast food every single day. It adds up so fast.
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really does. It may seem cheaper because you are only spending a few bucks at a time, but honestly, if you add up every time you go to fast food, versus how much you spend at the grocery for a week, I think most people would be shocked.
I don't know what's wrong with me but I had the opposite experience when I started my diet. Before I started watching what I ate, I couldn't ever really finish a meal, especially eating out at a restaurant.
Now I just devour everything on my plate. I guess maybe my metabolism got better.
Hey. Good logistical advice for getting healthier, but do you think you might be able to re-word the part where you say "Cut out the eating as much as humanly possible"? I know it's a small thing. But I recovered from a health binge turned eating disorder, and it's little stuff like that from people who seem healthy that sticks in a lot of readers' heads, and while most might not take it literally, some will. Maybe you could phrase it as "Don't eat little meals that you're not going to make dinner" or "don't waste a little bit of being hungry on a small meal when it's unnecessary or when you can make something better and more filling yourself." I know it's a small change, but I just think it's important to make sure that instructions for getting fit - even if they don't feel like instructions, they are - be kind and unexagerated.
That's all.
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually "cut out the eating out as much as possible" but I can see how that can be misinterpreted. Sorry about that. I will try to reword it to be less confusing :)
You can also go with my way of dieting which is being too lazy to get up and get food. Not sure how healthy it is, but over the last 5-6 years, I've lost weight. I'm 19 by the way.
See, the problem is that people view dieting as something you have to "get through." It's not. It's a lifestyle change, and you're so correct to say that learning to cook even a little will make a big impact. Even learning how to dress a basic salad can take you far: good olive or sesame oil, good vinegar, sea salt, fresh pepper, spices if you want. And when you cook, you control your portions, how much salt or butter goes into it. That's HUGE when you're trying to lose weight.
When I worked my first desk job, most of my co-workers were obese. I gained weight too, at first, but I realized I was eating from boredom and because snacks were always available. People would sit next to me and eat movie-theater boxes of candy every day! I began bringing in salads, carrots and hummus, boiled eggs, avocados - easy, healthy stuff that makes you feel full. But all around me, people told me "oh, you just have a thin body." Bulllllshit! I'm coke-bottle shaped, always have been, and I gain weight easily. I also love to cook, I love to grill and bake bread, love good wine and chocolate and bourbon. So I balance. That's all a diet needs to be: balancing health and pleasure.
I don't mean to sound like a self-congratulatory asshole. I definitely struggle to keep my weight down, especially during winter. There are days when I can and do eat an entire loaf of rosemary bread straight from the oven, drowned in olive oil. But if you can embrace eating healthier, exercising moderately, and stop craving really unhealthy food, it's not that hard. It's often a pleasure. Except for kale. FUCK KALE. Red cabbage should have been kale. Red cabbage is wonderful. Fuck kale.
People need to also stop fad dieting. Y'all know that shit won't work. There's no one reason people are fat. It's lots of cumulative stuff: not exercising, eating out, eating too much sugar, eating too much meat. Go to a thrift store and check out the cookbook section. It's all former fad diets. Go to the electronics section. It's all juicers now that the trend is over. Seriously.
I go from eating a whole plate of food at Applebee's to usually eating less than half of my meal from Wendy's.
Haha, do Americans really think that healthy eating means smaller quantities of garbage?
fynx07 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:30:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you stop reading immediately after that sentence. Literally the next thing I said in the next paragraph is cut the eating out, I.e. Fast food as much as possible. Don't be an anti-america dickhead, there isn't any need for it.
drakeg4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, America is the only country with fast food. You do realize fast food is still food, right? The most you'll get from eating too much is high sodium and saturated fats. The first is fixed by drinking more water and the next is fixed by eating smaller portions.
Ok dude. You keep eating garbage and I'll keep eating my whole food, plant based diet. We'll see who dies first. And when you do die I, for one, will be delighted. Absolutely delighted.
drakeg4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:25 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awwww, poor wittle guy doesn't like that I eat meat. T.T
as rule of thumb just a little slimmer than you think you need is usually just right
I love slim fit clothing on me. How do I do this with men's shirts? For reference, I'm 5'4 and a half and rather scrawny at 115-120 lbs (been a while since I weighed, just guessing). My waist is about 27. I love my figure, and don't plan on changing it much; it's the clothes that are the problem.
I find it difficult to shop because the men's section is usually too big. Not just in length and width, but I can wrap the sleeves around my arm like twice. Kids' stuff fits better but sometimes its too small. I'm generally happier with the kids' clothes I buy though. I own two women's shirts that I think fit me well, too.
Edit: So many suggestions. I don't have that much money! I'll build up slowly. Thanks everyone!
It can be difficult sometimes to find far end of the spectrum "slim" fits like this. One thing I think a lot of people overlook is that tailors do their job very well, and often will only charge $5-$10 per article of clothing which includes getting your measurements. You could do some research regarding a tailor in your area.
Another suggestion I'd make is to look towards certain "collections" of clothes known to cater to thinner builds. For instance for dress clothes J. Ferrar has very thin shirts. I myself wear their 15.5 medium slim collection shirt and it's snug in all the right places while having appropriately long sleeves and torso. I think at least one cheap outlet for J. Ferrar is JCPenny which I find usually has great sales.
Straight up though I wouldn't feel a goddamn shred of embarrassment over wearing kids or women's clothes if that's what fit well though. The problem you may find is in torso / sleeve length as kids and women have different proportions.
I'll happily second the other guy in saying that a good tailor can be your best friend when it comes to clothing. Style is one thing, but it doesn't matter what you wear or how fancy/expensive it is; if it fits poorly it'll look a fraction as good as it should. Find a good tailor, and then pick clothes that fit your shoulders. Clothing can be taken in, sleeves can be shortened, hems can be increased, but you can't really add material where it doesn't exist. Even a $5 shirt when fitted correctly to your form, will look like a $50 shirt.
I'm a really thin guy and, although I'm not super short, I do find JC Penny's is pretty good for buying pants. You also can buy Levi's online and they can pretty much get you any size that you want. I also do wear a bunch of gals clothes for both jeans and shirts though as they do tend to fit skinny people a bit better in my opinion.
Fatvod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Awesome suggestion! I might check those out myself!
rafyy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out Zara and H&M too...they have extra-slim fits, theyre cheap, and stylish.
thehoods ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:54:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very similar in proportions to you, 5'4" around 125. Lots of people make a size XS now, some of my favorites are American Eagle and J Crew for fit. American Eagle makes jeans in a size 26 waist. In recent years American Apparel has really improved as well. Their XS is the slimmest and smallest I've found, and it's relatively cheap. I'd recommend checking out /r/malefashionadvice and /r/frugalmalefashion it's been a very big help to me.
I'll check those three stores for XS. I've been wearing the same pants I wore in high school (like 6-7 years now) so I'll look into pants too. Idk if the subreddits are for me. At least not now. Good to know they're there if I need them though. Thanks for the response!
jarrit0s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hollister chino's worked well for me. Really comfortable and they were only $20.
stiicky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this may sound stupid, but a lot of the larger retail stores where you might buy clothes don't usually have great slim fit options. You are better off shopping in 'hipster' clothing stores like H&M/Urban Outfitters/UNIQLO which have actual slim/skinny options.
I am also part of the skinny struggle, instead of buying slim/skinny fit clothing to be edgy I have to do it more out of necessity
Hey there. We pretty much have the same body. Same weight and height. I'm in my late 20s, but I wanted decently fashionable basics. I found Everlane.com and I love their stuff. They have XS and I'm all about it. Also, look into TopMan, they also carry small sizes and good prices and more diverse selection. I don't know your budget, but you can build the wardrobe over time, and it's a good investment because you're paying for quality. I hope that helps. :)
Totally get that. Looking good in college definitely gets you noticed depending where you are. Definitely nice as a Christmas present. I pay full price because I find ways to rotate all my clothing so they have repeated uses throughout the week if need be. Anywho, good luck fellow slim-man!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Banana Republic is out of my price range unfortunately.
H&M looks good and the prices are just what I'm looking for.
I've done some dumbbell lifting to keep my arms a decent width. I don't think I need to hit the gym for another few years.
andersmb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm about you're your size at 5'5 and 135-140, a little more filled out( I've got tree trunk legs) You just have to find a store or two that sells what fits you well and stick with them. For example, I always by my jeans from the same store, they have a size that fits me well and sell jeans that are comfortable and look good. I have no problem wearing men's small shirts. Sometimes sweaters are a bit long in the sleeves, but typically it's not too much of an issue. Look for stores that sell slim fit items too.
You may have to adjust your personal style a little bit to find clothes that fit well too. Nicer/quality stores usually offer clothes that are styled/tailored to fit better, this goes for all sizes. Sometimes paying a little extra really does make a difference.
Also, one good tip I've learned from r/malefashionadvice is to build a wardrobe. Piece outfits together little by little, you don't have to overhaul your wardrobe in a week. When you find something you like that fits well, buy it and soon enough you'll have a closet of good looking, well fitting clothes.
Taiyoryu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may need to shop labels that are not domestic. Zara which is a Spanish clothing label skews short and thin. I had to get pants for a wedding (groomsman and all that) and the stores didn't carry my size 6'1", 190 lbs. so I ended up ordering online an XL (I don't ever recall wearing an XL pants before that order) and thankfully they fit but was still on the snug side. Most online Chinese stores which often ship world-wide tend to skew one-size smaller than comparable US sizes if an exact measurement (typically metric) is not listed. Most reviewers who are first-time shoppers will indicate having to exchange an item to go one-size up. So if you are typically a US medium, you would just order the large. But since you are slim to start with, you can probably just order without making an adjustment.
I know the feels, bro (5'4 130ish). I love slim-fit suits, but usually what fits my shoulders and waist are too long. Get something that fits your shoulders and waist (neck for a shirt) and get them tailored. It's not that expensive (think in the $30 range) and there is a huge difference, especially for us little guys. You don't want to look like a child in his dad's suit. Also, wear pointed toe shoes. I'm a size 7 but it makes me look like I have real feet.
First of all the men's section in stores keeps getting smaller and smaller. Pretty soon it's just going to be a rack back near the restrooms. If you wear button up shirts there is a company called Tactical Gent (www.tacticalgent.com). All you have to do is go to a local tailor and get your measurements. You can upload them on the site and order custom dress shirts for about $30 each. It's about as much as you would pay for a shirt off the rack from Kohls, but it's custom to fit you. Just to be clear I have no affiliation with the site. I just started using it. I usually buy one new custom suit every fall that runs between $500-$900. I just bought a custom suit, custom shirt, tie and pocket square for $360. And it's all really well made.
Look for "Fitted" instead of "Slim" next time you go shopping for shirts. "Fitted usually has that "V" shape dimensions and look a lot better. I really don't know what's up with "slim", but they vary too greatly for me to even consider anymore.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah more than half of my clothes were bought in high school and I graduated four years ago. I'm gonna try some of the stores suggested in the comments here. Hopefully they help you as well.
No my friend your short, maybe skinny but for your height you could be a jacked 135. For me I should be 170 at minimum (going by MMA stats on weight/height so it's kinda overshot).
Edit: seemed blunt but being short is by no means a bad thing I feel like I said it in a way that could be interpreted as negative.
I'm comfortable with my current height and body and I'm still growing. :) You don't have to get to 170 if you don't want to. Just do what you're comfortable with.
I don't think I could pull off a blouse either for that same reason. The women's shirts I own are similar to men's except they have low V-necks and short sleeves, and most importantly they hug my torso to show off my figure.
I honestly have to be fussy with my slim fit shirts. Even those are sometimes a bit too big now, especially since I dislocated my shoulder.
Lots of physio to strengthen the joint > even bigger shoulders on someone who already had an hourglass figure haha
I even try to stick to coats with belts because they nip me in at the waist.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:08:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love slim fit clothing as well. I specifically only wear joggers because I like the feel and they go really well with a casual shoe, like sperries or janoskis.
Joggers are like a sort of slim sweatpants (a little less casual than sweats), sperrys are boat shoes and janoskis are skate shoes. Sperrys and janoskis are both really popular in casual day-to-day wear.
kheltar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hit up as many different stores as you can. I find fit varies (often wildly) between stores.
I'm 6'4" and about 190lbs, I cycle and run so have big thighs.
Gap jeans are my saviours at the moment, found some tapered jeans that are big in the thigh and thin down toward the ankle. They look much better as they actually fit properly.
Shirts are a bastard, being thin, but tall and with long arms is a tricky combination. Once again, shop around, go to department stores, the shirt sections here are usually of decent size and have people that will give you good advice.
It's a matter of finding the brands that work for you. It's annoying and limiting, but when you find stuff that works it's easy.
Taking someone decent at fashion with you helps, and usually those people like shopping anyways, so happy days.
Check out Guess, but sign up for their emails and wait for 30% off at least. Their XS should fit you fine, as I'm about the same measurements. Banana republic has XS online (and get tailored slim fit shirts) too, but I find some of their other stuff pretty boring especially if you're not in a cold climate. Also wait for sales.
I used to weigh about the same and I'm 5'5 so I know exactly the predicament you're in. No matter how small of a size I would pick at big department stores like jcpenny, sears, kohls, macy's they still wouldn't fit me right. I tried shopping around for a bit and found that H&M, Forever21 Men, Zara, ExpressMen, and Uniqlo usually had cuts that fit me better.
pullish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're going to have to shop around, but generally nicer shirts will fit better off the rack. Otherwise, you might have to get your shirts tailored. Hugh & Crye has shirts that fit slim and skinny guys really well.
jarrit0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a similar body type as you end usually end up buying boys shirts in XL. I've had good luck at H&M for jackets, though.
Edit: But really, though, you give a tailor $10, and he/she will take a $15 shirt from target or walmart and turn it into a form-fitting shirt that you love to wear and looks like a $100 shirt. You can turn all of your clothes into properly fitted clothes.
hotrock3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tailors are going to be your best option. At 6'3" and 150 lbs it's also my best option. They aren't that expensive when compared to the cost of the clothing your wearing while looking professional. For causal clothing or your not at work but still nice clothing it may be a bit pricy. Use some older shirts that you probably need to get rid of and do some internet research and see if you can tailor it yourself. If you just want to figure out what you need to do to make it fit right use cloths pins to pull areas tighter along the seams.
I quickly figured out that I knew what needed done to make any shirt fit well but I sucked at actually doing it.
Look at shopping from european or asian stores/brands/franchises. They're typically a size smaller for the same mark in a US store, and carry sizes smaller than you would expect to see.
If you want the slim look and normally dress up, you just need to find the right stores. Express caters to slim fit and might have something in your range.
Go on Ebay and look for Korean fashion. Their stuff runs very small and still looks pretty damn good (and is cheap). Even the adult stuff is rather small, as their sizes are twice as small as American.
Go to the tailor. Buy things you'll wear repeatedly and enjoy wearing, spend more on each, and buy fewer things. Get them altered to fit you correctly. My nicest/favorite clothes are ones I bought second hand and had the sleeves shortened on. I have broad shoulders and T-Rex arms, and every nice coat/blazer I have had to be altered. Dress shirts come in appropriate sleeve lengths, fortunately. The most critical thing is fitting tops to your shoulders and chest. The rest can be easily adjusted.
As a somewhat oddly proportional guy, I always had a hard time finding dress shirts that fit. I'm skinny with long arms, and larger sizes usually get girthy. I'd recommend shopping around at major stores, find a brand that fits, and stick with it.
I'm generally happier with the kids' clothes I buy though.
Yea but it's hard to find age appropiate styles, and they rarely last more than a season or two. Might be better off getting them tailored. Just do one shirt/pant at a time so it's not a big hit on your checking account. I'm 5'11" and 152 and even smalls are too big in the torso.
Yeah, I was the same way. If I lose any fat without gaining a lot of muscle, I'm going to have trouble buying pants that fit again. It used to be a serious issue.
Very similar build to you. I have a lot of luck with Gap and Banana Republic -- if you wait for the right deals and/or get the Gap Credit Card like I did you can get some really great deals. I also have a fair bit of luck with Nautica.
You just described my boyfriend's body perfectly. When I buy him clothes, I look for men's extra small. It fits perfectly on him. Also, you can look for specific types of clothes. I'd give slim fit a try.
flyibis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you live in a decent sized city, look online for tailors who fly in and size for custom shirts (and pants, etc) a few times a year. You get to pick from hundreds of shirt fabrics, choose your collar and cuff style, pocket or no pocket... once you get a custom shirt you will never buy off the rack again. Just don't be that guy who gets the free monogram on his cuff ;-)
The stuff is typically made in Hong Kong so the price is often less than a designer shirt off the rack, though marginally more than a mall type store.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 5,5 but weight about 145. I'm not scrawny by any means but i m similar in waist (28 instead of 27) but check out shirts xs. They usually fit me tighter and should fit you slim.
Or take in your shirts yourself. I have an old sewing machine. I take in the pant legs and sides of shirts. Just a little, makes all the difference.
I didnt realize how much tayloring helps, until I had some Marriachi pants made custom for a wedding. Best looking pants i ever had, but they were for a gas. So i laid them out, and copied the measurements onto some jeans. Now all my pants are done that way. Feels and looks great.
I agree with all of this, except weighing yourself every day. For many people, that can cause obsessive behavior. And also, since an adult's weight can fluctuate by 6 pounds over the course of 24 hours, depending on time of day that you weigh, what you've eaten, when you've pooped, etc., it's not going to give you an accurate picture. Once a week is better, IMO.
That's why you should weigh yourself the first thing in the morning, preferably after the morning poop. Doing it once a week is no better to combat the fluctuate since you might weigh yourself on the low end one week and high end next week and think you gained weight and lose motivation.
Daily weights will let you recognize your daily fluctuations. You may worry for the first few days, but most people will quickly learn to average the numbers.
You are going to get the same fluctuations over a week as well. If you lose 3 lbs, but weigh yourself during an upswing daily fluctuation you could end of feeling that your entire week's effort was a waste. This is much worse than being a bit obsessive.
Taking less measurements usually leads to poorer quality data. Source: I'm a scientist.
ztatiz ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:19:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trained as scientist and currently work as statistician, can confirm. The idea that weighing yourself once a week leads to more accurate estimates has baffled me for years. All the stuff mai_tais said is exactly why I would much prefer to weigh multiple times a day, under multiple conditions, every day.
When I'm trying to lose weight, I weight myself every day, at the same time (first thing in the morning, after going to the loo) I have 7 day rolling mean, and only Draw conclusions from that.
ztatiz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:30:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
every day, at the same time (first thing in the morning, after going to the loo)
Yeah I think that makes a lot of sense. I like to have a sense of what's a reasonable fluctuation after x activity too though (eating, running short distance, running long distance, etc.). Without being interested in all of that though, I think most people would do much better to follow a weight measurement plan like yours, as compared to weighing once a week.
You don't need accuracy. Overall trend and its psychological effect is more important than quality data.
ztatiz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Overall trend is not mutually exclusive from quality data. I would argue that they're kind of maybe just a little bit related?
I'm guessing most adults can decide for themselves if high frequency weigh-ins is having a harmful psychological effect, and I certainly feel they are free to make that choice for themselves. The point I and I think other redditors were arguing was about accuracy, not "ought."
I think what they mean by accuracy is how accurate your weight fluctuates in response to diet changes, as opposed to water weight and minute changes that are irrelevant in this context.
Don't overestimate how much people know about diet and their bodies, if someone saw their weight drop for 2 days straight and then go back up, for normal, expected reasons, but didn't know about these natural fluctuations they might get discouraged right away or, thinking they're eating too much, restrict calories more than needed, and find it unsustainable, and give up, before reaching a week or two where they would notice the overall trend.
The data of minor weight fluctuations isn't really valuable if you're not tracking other data such as meal timing, macros, your sleeping habits, stress, etc.
And all those things would be too much to start for someone who knows nothing about weight loss, and not even needed/worth it at that stage.
ztatiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah but if you weigh yourself once a week you can still manage to weigh yourself when your weight has fluctuated up (you may be at a lower end of your own weight range when you weighed yourself on Monday of week 1, but Monday of week 2 may be your highest weight day). Lower frequency weigh-in doesn't circumvent the problem of a weigh-in that captures "normal fluctuation" as opposed to "response to diet change."
I should have clarified in my original comment, and have done so in a few others by now, that I'm interested in those fluctuations for myself but that if others aren't interested in them that the best (clarification: as in more accurate, and more accurate as in, in response to diet and not in response to drinking a liter of water or something) way is to weigh under consistent conditions, not differing ones. But in that case, consistency is key for understanding your weight's response to diet changes, not reducing the frequency of measurement.
But the week or two weeks gives time to tell if the diet is working: If you lost however much you were hoping for according to calculations, you're on the right path. If not, then you need to up/lower your calorie intake.
EDIT you're right that consistency is really important, obviously even if you're weighing yourself two weeks apart it should be under similar conditions.
munketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really if you weigh yourself when you're heavier than normal. I can wake up 3lbs heavier some days for no real reason and using the same conditions. If you weigh yourself one week and it's normal then next week it's 3lbs heavier, you can't know whether you've gained 3lbs, it's a 'heavy day', you've stayed the same, or you've lost weight. Once a day under the same conditions will always be the best.
The time gap you weigh yourself at should be enough to make it evident whether your weight fluctuation is due to diet.
munketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
? and what if the 2 days you weigh yourself in 14 days are days that you're heavier than normal and the next day you would be 3lbs less but you'd never know.
Yeah, I have a daily spreadsheet with a column for time of day, and a column for notes, e.g. if I'm wearing a full suit (my scale is at the office), if I just ate, pre/post morning dump, etc. I like to know the variables!
Edit: Typo. D'oh.
GND52 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:48:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I weigh myself twice a day, right when I get up and right when I go to bed, always fully nude. Makes it much easier to compare the data.
What kind of difference do you notice between the numbers?
GND52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm usually 2-5 pounds heavier at night than in the morning. Day-to-day usually varies no more than 1-2 pounds, depending mostly on my calorie intake (which I also track, as best I can).
For trends I look at a 7 day rolling average, which helps to smooth out any noise.
Hachifac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you me? I weight myself twice a day and write it in a google spreadsheet, been doing it for almost a year to track my weight loss.
There's a few times that I lost 4~6lb over 2~3 weeks but if I had weighed once a week I might have thought that I plateau'd
ztatiz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:34:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
more often yes, but more conditions? I'm not sure it's appropriate for tracking changes to your weight. I weigh myself daily in the morning, after going to the bathroom, before getting dressed. I know that food/recent activity/clothing will never drastically impact the measurement.
ztatiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I clarified in a different comment that I weigh myself under those conditions specifically because I want to get a sense of what's a reasonable fluctuation for those conditions. I find that information inherently interesting I guess. Short term variance can be as interesting as long term trends IMO.
Anyway for myself, I've learned that recent activity certainly can and does impact the measurement by a lot. For instance, it may not be a hard and fast rule but my weight before and after a long run helps me determine if I hydrated well during the run, if I need to continue to drink more afterwards or if I'm basically good.
Sorry, my last sentence was poorly worded. I meant that, by weighing myself under conditions that are as repeatable as possible, I can avoid the fluctuations that recent activity/eating would cause.
Don't do that unless you're using the data for other stuff. The better plan is to weigh yourself every time at the same time under the same conditions. So every time after you wake up after you pee is probably the best time.
OR, you can do it for fun little things. Example: I'm 180 pounds before my run. I'm 173.4 pounds after my run! I just sweated out 3 liters of water! HOLY SHIT! Better drink as much as I can to recover (this is how I use pre and post run data).
Alternative: I'm 180 pounds, I wonder how much poop is in me...but everyone has done that :P
ztatiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:36 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes. It's absolutely possible that if you only weigh yourself once a week that you bust your ass on the treadmill, maintain a 1000 kcal daily deficit and still find that your scale shows a higher weight at the end of the week. That's incredibly demotivating and can stop your plan to lose weight in week one.
But i also understand that not everybody understands and doesn't have to understand variance. However, understanding that weighing yourself only provides you with a point of data that you then use to figure out a trend is always preferable if you are able to.
lilleulv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found a daily weigh-in after toilet visit in the morning, but before breakfast that I type into Libra right away the best for me. Even with daily fluctuations I can look at trend and the trendline and see that it's all right.
Weighing myself only once a week led to a shit, squiggly line and I quickly abandoned that.
I think the pointis that the trendline is the important thig, not the individual measurements. Weighing yourself every day means thst the trendline is more accurate.
lilleulv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly.
solepsis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a fan of my smart scale. I weigh myself after showering in the morning before I eat anything (seems like pretty close to a baseline number with regards to intra-day fluctuations) and the data syncs automatically with MFP and any other apps I want to allow that info.
An alternative to weighing yourself everyday is to take your measurements. Waist, hips, chest, arms, thighs, etc. Once you start seeing the numbers drop on your waist, you really think twice about eating a big meal. Plus, it reminds me keep better posture. Many people can take an inch off their waist just by standing up straight.
I agree with this. I recently lost 70 lbs and when I weighed myself every day I quickly found myself restricting more and more, working out too much, not meeting my protein recommendations because of low calories, etc. It's very easy to go from "tracking but allowing yourself indulgences" to "obsessive weighing and working off every extra ounce".
Jbota ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:09:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you weigh yourself at the same time in the same way that helps limit the swing. I like getting up in the morning, peeing, then weighing myself naked.
FrejGG ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:04:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On that note, a guy over at /r/fitness said he preferred weighing himself every day because it made him understand his body and natural fluctuations. Not disagreeing with you, just saying different people work differently.
fritopie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same time of day as well. Like first thing in the morning after you've gone to the bathroom and with little to no clothes on. When I weigh at home, it's usually pretty consistent. But at the Dr. it's all over the damn place. Once they didn't even let me set my purse down before they recorded my weight. So that time I was like 3 pounds heavier than I should have been.
Once a week is good for seeing if you are losing or gaining any weight at all, but daily measurements are good for seeing a trend. I typically weigh myself everyday and average the weeks. That is what I found to be most effective.
I weigh myself at the end of the morning workout on Fridays. I can be sure I had a whole week of good eating, and I'm likely to be empty in the rectal region by this point as well. Plus it sets the goals for the next week knowing what I'd accomplished.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you just weigh yourself every morning (or night , or both) and take that into account.
I can't remember exactly, but there is a 'correct' way to weigh yourself. I believe you poop in the morn, then drink a certain volume of water. You weigh yourself before breakfast and after (x) minutes of drinking said volume of water. Haha sorry for not knowing the values but maybe that'll help someone!
I weigh myself every morning and watch my monthly trend. If my weight isn't going the direction I want when I check the month, I find a way to change what I'm doing. That being said, you can indeed see daily progress. I was going down a pound every day or two for about a month and the scale showed it. I guess it's different for everyone.
weighing yourself first thing in the morning is the best way, if you want to do it. That said, I agree with the obsessive behavior thing.
Endur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd want to do everyday at the same time and look at the trend. Like in the morning after you go to the bathroom
leptons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weighing yourself every day at the same time every day produces consistent results. The best time is immediately after you defecate in the morning, and before you consume any food or liquids. I collected data like this for a year and it is very accurate. It's so accurate, you can see the bumps where the weekends are (extra calorie intake), and especially the holiday food binges.
You can be getting in awesome shape and will not lose a pound if you're doing a program where you're trading fat for muscle. The scale will discourage you, while its how your clothes fit and how you look in the mirror that will keep you motivated.
Edit: obviously this doesn't hold true if you're starting out obese. This advice is more for those with dad bods.
Salvyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They said at regular intervals, that doesn't mean every day.
xakeri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally agree that taking each instance of your weight in isolation is not a good idea because it can fluctuate so much even just based on how much sodium you had the day before.
I have a fitbit, and in the fitbit app, there is a section for adding your weight, and it automatically puts it in a line chart for you. So while one day I might weigh 3 pounds more than the previous day, as long as I weigh myself regularly, I can see the trends in my weight over the course of a month or two. It also averages your weight for a given 7 day period, which is also pretty useful.
I agree to disagree with you. I'm an RN and we weigh patients daily who need to be. I see where you're coming from about the mental aspect, but daily will provide more accurate results as opposed to weekly especially if you "fluctuate 6lbs"- I don't believe that to be true. A 6lb fluctuation would cause serious concern for me
That's why you weigh yourself at the same time of day, generally in the morning.
Once a week is a terrible idea. The point is to track intake vs weight fluctuation, which is impossible if you only weigh yourself once a week.
munketh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That daily fluctuation is exactly why you should weigh yourself daily...
[deleted] ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 17:07:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A couple things here.
Blanket diets are useless. Whole milk, butter, red meats, etc. can all very easily be part of a balanced diet. Especially if you need to gain muscle (or "tone"). Dietary fats DO NOT make you fat. Excess glycogen stores are far more of an issue. Fat is your body's primary fuel source, so by limiting carbohydrate intake, you can keep your body from storing excess fats and utilizing what is quickly available. Read more on the glycogen dynamic here:, and here:.
On the topic of "toning", no amount of elliptical, treadmill, or high-rep, low-weight nonsense is going to "tone" your muscle. Definition is created by having muscle mass and low bodyfat. So if you want to tone your ass and legs, you need to put some muscle on them. If you don't have the glutes, quads, and hamstrings already, losing bodyfat is going to do nil to make them look better. Don't get scared of adding muscle; you will NOT get "too bulky" overnight. You will get some shape and definition however.
Weighing yourself everyday is sort of a fool's errand, in that day to day fluctuations will demoralize you. 2-5 pound changes occur each day with solids intake and fluid retention. So average out the daily weights by week, and track that. Also, weigh yourself after using the bathroom and before taking in ANY water or food in the morning. This will give you a far more accurate gauge than when you're at the gym or before bed after eating and drinking all day.
Also note, fat fills you up. Carbs do not. If you want to feel full, eat something with some fat in it. If you want to feel like your starving, eat a bunch of carbs that end up turning in to fat anyway and making you fatter.
I find it's best to incorporate all three. If you're trying to build muscle though only carbs and protein go into that. But fat is still just nice to have for satiety and flavor.
Blanket diets are good for people that don't understand nutrition and don't care enough to learn yet still want to lose weight.
The best course to eating healthy is definitely to know the ins and outs of nutrition and how things like whole milk, butter, and red meats, etc can fit into a balanced diet. Especially considering "a balanced diet" changes depending on what you're trying to do.
Trying to lose weight? Eh, macros don't matter too much. Just eat calorie-efficient things and not too much of them. Trying to bulk hard? Oh god give me all the protein and carbs you've got and then some more, and then even more protein to top it off. Fat? I don't have anything against it other than it's not protein and carbs so get it the **** out of here. Trying to lose fat and build muscle? Exercise fasted, use that fuel you've already got inside you! After exercising get some god damn carbs and protein up in this. Replenish those glycogen stores and get that protein to work building muscle. Don't exercise while you're recovering and full of food. You're just throwing away calories your body SHOULD be using to make that sweet sweet muscle. Those are NOT the calories you wanna burn, you wanna burn the ones stored in those fat cells so do more fasted cardio!
To truly know what you're doing with dieting you have to at least know slightly more than the basics of nutrition. And a lot of people are incredibly ignorant about nutrition, so blanket diets are their only hope because they're not capable enough of working out a good diet on their own.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Allow me to rephrase then: fat is your body's most abundant and available fuel system. Adipose tissue can supply a virtually endless amount of energy in the context of exercise. It cushions your organs and brain, amongst other essential functions.
And again, carbs are an athlete's best friend. They are essential for long hikes, climbs, or treks. They help your body transport and break down other essential nutrients, and come in vitamin-rich packages.
I am only suggesting that for those looking to eat at a deficit for weight loss, cutting carbs will be more beneficial than cutting fats, all else being equal.
Blanket diets are useless. Whole milk, butter, red meats, etc. can all very easily be part of a balanced diet. Especially if you need to gain muscle (or "tone"). Dietary fats DO NOT make you fat. Excess glycogen stores are far more of an issue. Fat is your body's primary fuel source, so by limiting carbohydrate intake, you can keep your body from storing excess fats and utilizing what is quickly available. Read more on the glycogen dynamic here:[1] , and here:[2] .
Always funny to see the ketards out in full force on the main subreddits.
Caloric excess makes you fat, whether it's from fats or carbs. Most of the foods with the highest satiety index (highest level of fullness for lowest level of calories) are high carb food sources, like potatoes, and most vegetables. All the other ones are from food high in protein (the macro most consistently linked with satiety).
While liquid carbs aren't great for satiety (with milk being an exception), fats aren't all that different from carbs, and are often worse (because of the lack of fiber in high fat foods).
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:55:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not pushing Keto. I'm merely stating facts. If your goal is weight loss, you'd do well to utilize fat faster and more prominently as a fuel source. There's a large gap between ketogenic dieting and optimizing carb intake. Carbs are essential components of protein transport, high-intensity athletics, and others. I'm not starting a witch hunt.
Cals in vs cals out is the macro of weight loss/gain. But that doesn't mean the micro isn't worth working on. You could theoretically follow an IIFYM macros diet and be in terrible shape. At some point you need to give your phytovitamins and amino acids their due. This is no different.
EDIT: I linked to the Keto resource site solely to offer a source and illustration on the principle.
Evidence has consistenly shown the macronutrient most beneficial to fat loss and weight maintenance is protein, whereas differences in fat/solid carbohydrate intake provided negligible benefits.
What do you mean by optimizing carb intake? Do you mean around workouts to replenish glycogen stores, or to reduce carbs during caloric restriction? Because reducing fat is just as effective (as long as it's still above the essential requirements of about 0.2g/lb/day), and maintaining high levels of glycogen during caloric restriction and exercise means you can still workout and not feel like crap.
Excess glycogen stores are far more of an issue.
Based on what evidence? Also are you talking about hepatic glycogen or muscular glycogen? Because I'm pretty sure hepatic fat is much more of an issue than hepatic glycogen is.
Fat is your body's primary fuel source,
Again, what are you basing that on? When you have food the carbohydrates are the substrates most readily utilized for energy, whereas the excess fat (above your caloric requirement) are stored for later use. Your body preferentially uses carbohydrates, not fats. In fact, your body will readily undergo gluconeogenesis to produce carbohydrates (at great physical cost) because some tissues in your body can't rely on fats as a predominant fuel source. Carbs are the predominant fuel source for the body, not fat.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Red meat is now suspected to be a carcinogen by the WHO. It's all part of a balanced diet but in this case you need to be especially careful.
Vague correlation isn't even remotely cause for concern. Humans are designed to eat meat and plants. Red meat is fine.
mwapo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly would cut the milks and red meats for a while to see how your body responds. It's very easy to overlook your body developing lactose intolerance or red meats upsetting your stomach which cause you to feel worse which leads to you not wanting to work out or even diet.
I lose weight much faster cutting dairy because my general mood and health improve. But dairy doesn't have enough of a direct impact to have been noticeably the reason I was having the lethargy I was.
Try out cutting some of the foods people tend to have reactions to. But in the end calories are calories if you aren't having negative reactions.
It's likely that the sugar in the milk you are drinking is what is causing you to not feel so good. Low carbohydrate diets prevent spikes in your insulin levels caused by high blood sugar as a result of high carb intake. Those insulin spikes tend to make people feel lethargic. If you stick to creams and hard cheeses you will probably feel better. I have no idea why you feel bad eating red meat but if a person doesn't there is no reason to limit red meat intake.
Red meat is in general not as healthy as white meat. You should limit red meat consumption for your overall health and eat white meat. Saturated fats are still not that great for you and there is higher cholesterol in red meat than white meat.
Sorry but you are behind the time. This isn't true at all. Check this out. In summary: dietary fat is not bad for you and neither is dietary cholesterol. Last year the the department of Health and Human Services also said the same thing. There is no reason to think white meat is better for you than red meat. Fat is not bad for you.
Seems like you don't actually understand nutrition at all. There are multiple types of fat and cholesterol. LDL is "bad" for you, and should be consumed at a much lower rate than HDL. HDL is the "good" type of cholesterol. Essentially we have known for a long time that high HDL foods are good for you. As for fats, Saturated fats are still bad for you, but in general unsaturated fat is still healthier. You're taking a blanket article and generalizing it. If you actually read the guidelines it takes it from, you will find that it still supports reducing saturated fat, calories from sugars, and refined grains. It also mentions low consumption of red meat and higher consumption of seafood and white meat.
You do understand dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol right? Did you read the article? It clearly says that dietary cholesterol has no effect on serum cholesterol. Serum cholesterol is what is produced by the liver, and what runs through the blood and can be found on the inner walls of your vascular system. Further more, there is no such thing as "bad cholesterol." LDL cholesterol levels are more correlated with heart disease but the issue is that LDL is not actually cholesterol, they are what are called lipoproteins, that's what the second L stands for. Bother HDL and LDL carry cholesterol. You can have the same counts of LDL and have two very different measures of cholesterol. Typically large fluffy LDL is considered much better for you than small dense LDL. Furthermore, LDL does not correlate as well to heart disease as triglyceride levels do. Triglycerides tend to increase with intake of carbohydrates. But none of this matters because the primary argument is whether saturated fat is bad for you. Take a look here. If you can't see that one, view the summary article here. The conclusion is that increases saturated fat, does not increase the fat in your blood, aka triglycerides.
Narissis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:09:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Addendum: to improve chances of long-term success, think of "diet" as a noun, not a verb. If you diet, or if you go on a diet, then you're giving yourself the option of ending or going off the diet. Do that, and the weight comes back. Instead, change your diet - diet in this case simply meaning "the way you routinely eat". Don't try to lose weight and then go back to the lifestyle that made you overweight. Adopt a newer, healthier lifestyle and eating habits that will keep you in shape into the future.
Yangoose ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:20:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter what weight the guy 2 benches down is putting up
This one is huge. Also remember that we all have different body types and different things we excel at. Short dudes are just built for some lifts while tall guys are good at others. My bench numbers suck, my deadlift numbers rock.
What does your diet currently look like in terms of the usual foods you eat, how often you eat per day, what your physical activity throughout the week?
Zorgogx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I eat about 2000 calories a day in 3 meals, and I exercise pretty intensely for about 2 hours a day, and lift once or twice a week.
Understanding ones basal metabolic rate (BMR) and how your activity throughout the day effects it is SUPER important in knowing how to control your weight. The average male of moderate daily activity has a BMR of 1500 cal/day (this is how many calories your body will burn passively just from being alive). You can add onto this any activities you do (100 cal/mile for running, ect.)
Although 2,000 calories IS undoubtedly a "recommended" diet, it's often only recommended as far as maintaining weight, or in some cases losing weight. With 2 hours of physical activity a day + a few days of muscle building exercises a few times a week you could easily be burning more than 2,000 resulting in your weight staying low to the point of bothering you. You can easily bump up to 2,400 - 2,600 cal and still be within the non-bulking "healthy" diet range. In doing so I'd suggest trying to maintain healthy macro-nutrition ratios. 1g / lb of body weight work well for protein intake to promote muscle growth. Keeping your carbohydrate calorie intake to 50% of your daily total is also a great way to ensure you aren't getting to many fast burning calories.
It might be intimidating or difficult to decipher at first, but looking up a beginners bulking routine on bodybuilding.com can be a great way to get started. It sounds like you're doing enough current exercise to where a light bulk will be effective.
Zorgogx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not too late or too early to start, today might just be the perfect day. You're gonna do awesome man, sounds like you already have a great foundation!
mhende ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good recipe and all but you could really replace it with pretty much anything that will give you a lot of calories with decent macros.
A shake like that probably has like 25%fat/50%protein/25%carbs
Which is pretty good but you could always use more carbs and less fat when trying to build muscle.
Still a very good simple recipe. You can even change up the flavor a bit. Add a banana for more carbs and it'll taste great.
I've even seen powered peanut butter which is like 80% protein and would help a recipe like this cut down on fat for those looking to do so.
You could even add a bit of chocolate syrup sometimes, or probably find a healthier option. If you're trying to bulk up it's not too bad to include stuff like that anyway.
I found eating out all the time and drinking a bunch of beer in college helped me pack on a lot of weight. Of course it was pretty much all in my stomach.
No joke, start eating a couple extra slices of bread or a roll or some other pastry with every meal. When you want a snack, skip the carrots and go for a PB&J.
I'd like to add to this list to get a fucking haircut. Not some bullshit $10 cut from great clips or super cuts. Go to a real salon and get it cut. It costs a little more, but its totally worth it. First of all, they shampoo and massage your head which is awesome, second, you will look much better, and third, the girls that work at the nicer places are usually better looking!
On the last point, I hate it when people say they don't go to the gym because they feel like they are going to be made fun of. I've been a part of several gyms including the one at my university, and I have never seen anybody getting bullied or whatever. If I see someone that's smaller than me, or someone overweight, I usually just think " hey that persons trying to better themselves, good for them" and then go back to my workout. I feel like people that are uncomfortable and feel like their being made fun of are usually just have their self-esteem playing mind games with them like "that guy who is more in shape than me looked at me, he must think I'm a loser".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if going to the gym IS a huge issue for someone (which I agree with you that it really shouldn't be), it's really no excuse. You can make a huge amount of progress with only a pull-up bar and kettle bell at home. Hell, you don't even need that much equipment.
Ugh, it can be hard not to fall into that trap. Just remembering Tech School, little 115lb Air Force chick on a Navy base, embarrassed to go into the weight room with all the Marine meatheads. I went to the gym exactly once the whole time and felt judged the whole time, although that probably wasn't the case.
I think an important thing to realize is that these "meatheads" didn't crawl out of the womb with a six pac. They had to go to the gym when they were just starting out, and they probably felt judged too.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:50:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's not like there isn't value to avoiding certain foods. Sure you could eat 1500 calories of chocolates every day and lose weight but that's not a lot of chocolate, you'd still be hungry. The idea of avoiding grains or pasta or butter is the same idea as avoiding calorie dense foods as they'll use up more of your calorie "budget" without really making you full / satisfied.
In terms of "toning" when referring to combining diet and exercise it's a very real thing. Muscle growth provides a good framework for your body to distribute skin / residual fat over. Is it necessary? Certainly not. But in terms of "attractiveness" building muscle can alleviate areas where skin might bunch up or fold.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I usually view "toning" as a combination of cutting and bulking. You are losing fat while gaining muscle. Whereas usually with cutting you are focusing mostly on losing fat and with bulking you are focusing on gaining muscle.
mwapo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think toning is used to describe exercise designed to burn fat while not really gaining muscle mass. It's not particularly useful, but hey, if people are exercising, more power to them.
To add to your 1500 calories in chocolate thing, the spikes in insulin from spiking your blood sugar could make someone develope metabolic syndrome ultimately resulting in TII diabetes.
Everybody should really spend a couple of weeks weighing and measuring their food just to develop a sense of how much equals how many calories. You can read guides on estimating portions, however you don't really get it until you practice it for a while.
Absolutely correct. I started my workout diet 7 months ago and have since, just from doing it so often, developed an innate sense for how many calories something is and how much of it I can eat reasonably. It's pretty crazy how well attuned your brain will become to estimating calories and just inherently knowing what's good and bad after a month or two of measuring and tracking.
jseego ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:54:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make friends there, be a regular, chat it up with the girl at the check in counter, be courteous. Be the kind of person you'd want to meet at the gym.
This is such good advice.
Deako87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the topic of food, there's a common phrase "You'll never outrun your calories" that's absolutely true. The only way to lose weight is to take in less calories than you use.
Speaking as someone who has lost 89 lbs since March '15, thank you for speaking sanity.
Very well written and comprehensive I must say. I've been working on eating particularly for the past month, and boy did I underestimate that the hardest part of getting healthier for me would be to stop energy drinks. Going from 6 a day to 0 is very much not pleasant.
Heh, thanks. Still not exactly doing great, but it's a start. A Pepsi here and there is a far cry from 900-1500 calories in Monster (let alone everything else) a day faithfully.
"Oh I'm not doing great, I quit smoking cigarettes but I still sit near a campfire every now and again."
Dude, from 6 monsters a day to a pepsi here and there is amazing progress to make. Sugar and caffeine have ridiculous hooks in people and here you are kicking them in the face one passed-up drink at a time.
You deserve it, you've got a stud / babe inside you waiting to get out, and nobody but you can carve that marble.
This is a great way to put it. If you consider yourself unattractive (for WHATEVER reasons; bullied at school, shitty friends, mean strangers) even a little, when you start seeing results after sticking to a gym/diet routine, you notice that feeling starts going away. You start noticing others notice you more than before. Whether it's because you pay more attention to it, or because it's significantly more prevalent now, you notice.
That makes your day better. Then you feel better in all other aspects of your life. It's such a worthy investment.
Listen to the man/woman above; he wrote it in a way that's realistic and effective. You don't need to become a mad gymbro and sacrifice a ridiculous amount of time. 3 hours or so out of the week, plus a bit of planning when eating, isn't all that much. On top of that, it gets easier after you get into the groove.
wait, is that why every conversation i have with a stranger ends up in awkward silence? i never look someone in the eyes because im extremely self conscious. :o
does anyone else have this problem, and if so, do you have a hard time making friends?
It is weird to see how many people, mostly males, wear shirts that are to big for them. I understand if you are trying to hide something but most really aren't. That line on the shoulder of the shirt is intended to be up towards the top of your shoulder, not halfway down your tricep. But if you like your clothes to run big and know they are big for you then who cares.
So on the topic of fitness I need to gain weight. What are some good tips? I'm 22 years old and have been roughly 120lbs for around the past 3 years and am about 5'8.
Do you have any sort of gym routine? What does your current diet look like in terms of how often you eat, what you eat, and when you eat?
"Bulking", or the act of going into caloric surplus for the sake of tissue development, is a great way to gain weight in preparation for a workout routine, or to supplement an existing workout routine. Looking up a beginners bulking guide on bodybuilding.com can be a great place to start.
If guides and macro-nutrition are intimidating or difficult to understand let me know and I can help you to understand the basics and where to start.
Thank you! I do not have a gym routine but I do 20 to 30 pull ups a day run for 3 or 4 miles twice a week. As for diet I don't have much of a plan so that's probably the largest part of my problem. I'll need a minute to look 91st the website but I'll let you know if I have questions. Thanks again!
While Townie did give you great advice, I always urge people who have trouble gaining weight to get their thyroid tested by a medical professional. If you have hyperthyriodism and get it treated, it can help immensely.
No problem. Thyroid problems don't run in my family, they amble slowly through my family, shaking hands and getting to know every single one of us. I can't tell you how many of my family members have had weight problems, in both directions, that all but disappeared after getting on thyroid meds.
Hahaha, I'm a mechanical design engineer and project lead for a private firm in the Twin Cities. A lot of my work is taking clients out, hashing out system designs, coordinating other engineers working under me, and overseeing development. The few days after holidays are usually slow days for communication as my clients return from their time off work. This just happened to be a topic I'm passionate about.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also pick an exercise you like!
I'm a runner, and I run enough to where I kinda need to eat a lot. But a lot of people hate running and that's totally okay! If you hate it you will never do it to a point where it's efficient exercise. You need to find something active that you like, whether it be surfing or basketball or lifting or yoga. Whatever it is. Only do something you enjoy the process of. Do it a lot and you'll be healthy looking. Maybe you won't have sixpack abs or a perfect body but you'll definitely look better and feel better
To go along with working out - Find something you LOVE to do. I hate running. I hate stationary biking. I hate the elliptical. But I tried Zumba once, fell in love with it, and lost a ton of weight, gained some muscles. And I am so excited on the days of the week my gym has Zumba. If you hate going to the gym, it's probably because you hate your workout. Try out different things, see what doesn't feel like a chore, and stick to it!
you're there for nobody other than yourself. It doesn't matter what weight the guy 2 benches down is putting up, you don't know his story and couldn't possibly compare your experiences. All that matters is you, where you started, and where you are now.
Sometimes it's hard to overcome a lot of the stigma surrounding body image, self esteem, and the perceived judgement of others. If you're having specific issues and would like advice or just somebody to listen, feel free to let me know!
KazROFL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What skin repairing lotion.. There are like a zillion things that call themselves this.
I use this which you can find at your local target for cheap. It comes in varieties for sensitive skin, everyday use, or intensive care. I find it to be non-oily so it doesn't spur on blemishes or zits as well as very efficient in terms of using a little and having it go a long way. It smells incredible too.
I'll put a little on my face and neck after a shower to avoid dry or irritated looking skin. I'll also apply a little after using a zit treatment cream on the off chance that I have a little breakout.
This is where I start acting autistic. Where do I look? Do I stare at something straight ahead? If someone's walking in my direction, do I stare at them or give a glance and not?
Hahaha, I laughed pretty hard at "This is what I start acting autistic. "Staring" at anything is kinda the wrong action to use. Eyes forward to the horizon is perfectly acceptable. Hell, let those fuckers wander. Look at your surroundings, check out that fuckin' tree! It sure is beautiful this time of year. Look inside that bar you're passing, make a note to stop by sometime because shit is that like 22 taps? There's a big ass world out there and nobody is going to blame you for scoping it out. Just don't spend your time looking in the least interesting direction, down.
To expand on the last point and for anybody who recently picked up a gym membership as part of a resolution here are some tips on making your time commitment effective.
Go to the gym in the morning before work / school.
You'll have access to machines you want when you want, nearly all of the time.
You'll actually get goals met.
You'll avoid the excuses that stem from other people's presence.
You'll be awake and ready to kick the day's ass.
It's easier to commit to going to the gym when the night before you say, "I'm going to the gym tomorrow morning."
This is all from personal experience, YMMV but I did more in the gym in the morning in 3 months than I did trying to go off and on in the evenings for years.
This is something a lot of people don't get. Diets aren't something you just do for a few weeks to lose a couple pounds then go back to eating shit.
I started eating better and working out in July. I don't know how much weight I've lost because it's a bad indicator of what I've accomplished. I know I've lost 5 belt loops. But, my friends/co-workers ask me how much longer I'll be on my diet. Well, hopefully forever. I mean, I will eventually get to a place where I don't mind having the occasional pizza/bbq/cheeseburger for a meal. But, the point is to eat better long term, not just for a few weeks.
It's sounds like you're doing awesome man! And you're absolutely right, hopefully forever is the exact attitude one needs. I wish you nothing but luck in the future, and that you may inspire some of your friends to do the same.
A point regarding hair: that does NOT just mean on your head. Take care of ALL your hair, especially your facial hair. You want to have a beard? Great! Lots of people love beards! Keep it neat and clean. Maintain your eyebrows, your nose hairs, and especially the hair on your neck. There is a huge difference between the attractiveness of someone who has facial hair that is full but neat and clean with a tidy neck and someone who clearly just completely ignores it.
If you wear your hair short, you probably need to clean up the edges between haircuts unless you're getting your hair cut every 2 weeks or so and even then sometimes things can get messy looking.
No matter what your style is, neat and clean is almost universally more attractive than messy and sloppy.
adubbz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are eating more calories than you are burning, but still going to the gym and shit. It's still good for you right? Your body will still build muscle/tone? I never really understood that.
Like I don't necessarily want to lose weight all that much, but I want to be more fit generally. I still want to eat a fuckin' pizza though if I want to.
Absolutely. Bulking is the act of intaking a calorie surplus for the purpose of building muscle and structure at the expense of small body fat gain (2-4% increase on a decently lean bulk).
If you are pushing it at the gym your body will use anything it can get it's hands on to build muscle. There are certainly foods that build leaner muscle, and foods that help promote muscle growth (see: protein). But ANY calories can be used to build muscle.
I am at the gym for an hour and 20 a day on a 5 day /wk split with a workout diet in place but still go out for drinks on Saturday nights and just blow my calorie budget away. It's totally fine to indulge every now and again as long as you put in the work and maintain a theme of healthy living.
adubbz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool. So it's never a waste going to the gym. Quality post by the way!!
Hopefully someone will see this. Regarding your point on eating butter, milk, bread, and pastas and then no making you feel full/satisfied...if you eat foods high in protein (e.g. lean meat, nuts, eggs, etc.) it will make you feel full. Therefore, if you're feeling particularly hungry between meals just eats some peanuts or almonds, and for meals makes sure you're getting a good amount of protein. Not only will this make you feel fuller, but it will also help you maintain or even build muscle mass while you're dieting!
You aren't wearing cologne if it's an assault on the nose, it's wearing you. Cologne is a fickle scent on the breeze so subtle you aren't sure you smelled anything at all. It's an invitation to get closer, gift box that demands opening.
I'm sorry you have adverse reactions to various scented products, but when in proper use on others they shouldn't have such bad effects on your. The issue is the user, not the product.
Taiyoryu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On "wear something that smells good without needing a reason", you can honestly just get by with that "clean" smell just by showering as often as you expect to be in public. Also use antiperspirant for those that sweat easily and have B.O. That should cover everyone except those with a medical condition.
For the lazy that don't want to accost themselves with cologne and perfumes, well that's where scented body wash comes in. If you have a significant other or have access to friends who are of the gender and persuasion you like to attract, bring them to the store. Have them pick and rank a few body washes they like the smell of. Then of those options pick one (or two if you are undecided) and try them at home. Make sure to have that same person smell you again after you've used the body wash because the fragrances are going to be affected by your own body chemistry. Personally, I use Old Spice Swagger.
Also if you do end up using a body wash, get yourself a loofah or scrub brush. Be efficient and exfoliate while you clean.
You can find this at your local target for pretty cheap. It's what I use after showers and after any acne treatments I might need for the odd breakout.
It's non-oily so it doesn't cause any sort of shine, it's very efficient and a little goes a long way, and it's non-irritating to more sensitive area's like the eyelids. It also smells amazing.
Gold Bond's been doing this for decades, they know their shit.
lars5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop considering it a resolution and start considering it just how you live now.
this is probably the most important thing. don't think about changes as goals, think of them as building new habits.
The way you think speaks to me on a very logical, real yet understanding level. Most people could benefit from this method of processing cause and effect with applied solutions to one's problems. Unfortunately, many have trouble letting go of the denial and unrealistic expectations that demotivate efforts.
In addition to great advice listed here, I believe admittance and acceptance helps in the first step towards changing one's way of perception and growth into a better you.
Oddly enough, half of those tips were told to us on the ballroom team to help your partner want to be closer to you. The closer you and your partner are, the more connection you have, and the better you dance together
And remember you're looking for general trends, not day-by-day changes. People's weights fluctuate, even if they're going in a general downward direction over the long haul. I guarantee that at some point, one day you'll be down two pounds and the next you'll be back up five. Don't let that discourage you; a better, if less easily quantifiable indicator, at least psychologically speaking, is noticing when your clothes start feeling looser.
If you don't have enough time for the gym I find that these simple workout routines help me tone quite a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-9L0J_9qag
This is an 8 minute ab workout and there are up to 5(?) levels I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWc8gHlAkoM
This is a 12 minute chest workout also with X(not sure) amount of levels. You can do both of these routines without any extra weights and adding in cardio to these and you have a pretty good work out routine without the gym membership!
Who thinks it's awkward; you, or the person you're making it with? I feel like people too often don't ask this question of themselves. In your head is the only place a lot of these cringy or awkward moments live.
That being said however, eye contact can be guided with context clues. Don't maintain it all the time, but hold it during important moments. Good parts in stories, after a good joke, after both of you have a good laugh, to highlight how important something is to you. Use eye contact as you would use a smile, as a way to communicate, to say that you're interested, invested, and like what's going on.
It shouldn't be "We are talking so I should maintain eye contact", it should be more like "I made eye contact because of what they were saying".
That's actually a really good point. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
But what I meant when I asked was that I have a habit of making eye contact with strangers in public, especially when there are a lot of people around.
The gym by and large is for building muscle / structure...
This is true, but one of the primary benefits of the extra muscle is all the extra calories burned all the time. Lean mass is like your body's furnace and the more lean mass you have the more calories you burn even when you're at rest...
Oh and also, workouts (particularly high intensity ones) ramp up your metabolism (furnace) for several hours after the workout, so you're burning even more just doing what you'd normally be doing otherwise.
spydud22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've gotta find that in yourself through motivation. However I find the gym to be a lot more fun if I have a partner and make a few friends that I can shoot the shit with around the weight-room. If it's a matter of feeling tired or worn down give a half scoop of pre-workout a try 20 minutes before lifting. Pre-workout is a pretty non-jittery energy booster with a few other effects like helping your body absorb/use nutrients and promoting good blood flow.
You can also look into which lifts in particular effect your mood negatively. Going from no gym to 5 day a week split is a big jump, I worked from a 3 day split, to a 4 day split, and then into a 5 day split over a few months. Your body in the early stages of gym development needs more rest time between workouts to repair muscle fiber, otherwise you'll find yourself tired and worn out all the time.
just a little slimmer than you think you need is usually just right.
i like your post, but hopefully people don't take this line incorrectly. a lot of people (girls especially) wear clothes that are too tight and are not flattering. maybe you are talking about dudes though. :)
it also wouldn't be terrible to pick up a gym membership
I dislike the phrasing of this, if you've decided that you want start going to the gym, you really have to commit to it. Don't drop by every few weeks and go for a walk on the treadmill. If you're not fully invested and are not GRINDING to make an actual change.. stop crowding the place up, it's busy enough as it is. More importantly you're wasting your own time.
MOST IMPORTANTLY you're there for nobody other than yourself. It doesn't matter what weight the guy 2 benches down is putting up, you don't know his story and couldn't possibly compare your experiences. All that matters is you, where you started, and where you are now. Nobody but you looks at that scale every morning, nobody but you plans out your meals, and nobody but you feels the benefits of your actions. You deserve it, you've got a stud / babe inside you waiting to get out, and nobody but you can carve that marble.
Life advice right there.
This attitude applies to all areas of life and all ages, not just the gym right now. Thanks for this! I'm gonna write it down somewhere.
MOST IMPORTANTLY you're there for nobody other than yourself. It doesn't matter what weight the guy 2 benches down is putting up, you don't know his story and couldn't possibly compare your experiences. All that matters is you, where you started, and where you are now. Nobody but you looks at that scale every morning, nobody but you plans out your meals, and nobody but you feels the benefits of your actions. You deserve it, you've got a stud / babe inside you waiting to get out, and nobody but you can carve that marble.
There's nothing more heart-warming than a genuine smile. If I'm walking down the street and somebody smiles at me, whether it be one of those grand twinkle-in-eye beams or a more reserved slight-curve-of-the-lips crinkle of a smile, I always feel like a tsunami of warm goodness has crashed over me. It's that powerful.
Lpt request: how to smile at people without leading the creepers to believe you're interested. I work at a grocery store and I've resorted to grunting like a warthog while scanning things to make my disinterest abundantly clear.
jargoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A quick nod and then going back to what you were doing works to cut off the interaction
I read this interesting article about smiling and genuine vs polite smiles. It said that when a person flashes a genuine smile at another person, the second person anticipates the smile and starts to smile back before it becomes apparent that the first person is smiling, like we have smiling precognition or something. People only return polite smiles after seeing them, though, and you can instinctively tell the difference.
You don't necessarily have to be happy, but when you smile, mean it. If you're not happy to see someone, why the hell do you care what they think of you? Life's to short to try to impress people you don't like.
Always with mouth open. It is a sign that you love/accept yourself the way you are. There is nothing more attractive than that. You can't love others unconditionally if you can't love yourself unconditionally first.
People always say that whole "you have to love yourself first" thing but I don't get it. I'm not attractive. I'm not sure I ever will be. The most I can hope for at this point is to make myself less unattractive. I love "myself" as in my personality, but I despise my body / appearance as it is more or less the entire reason I have difficulty in relationships. But I feel extremely confident in my ability to love others. I love my dog. I love my family. I love my (few and kinda distant but still awesome) friends. I can't possibly judge others based on looks considering my own, and I greatly value those with a kind and genuine personality like my own. I try to always be grateful and generous when others are kind to me, especially since it doesn't happen very often. I'm admittedly overgenerous to those who I am romantically inclined, and though I am hesitant to say I've fully loved someone given I've never actually been in a real relationship, there's no question in my mind that if I could only find the right person willing to take a risk on me I could fully and unconditionally love someone, despite my own frustrations with myself.
To me it's more about self-esteem. It's about learning to be comfortable in your own skin. As soon as someone is hiding their teeth then it could be because something as insignificant as how there teeth look bothers them so much that they want to hide it. That's how I read into it. It makes me sad because then someone is stopping themselves from smiling just because of that. Then I know that something is bothering them and not letting their mind be at peace. If someone's bothered by their smile, then there might be other things about themselves that makes them feel bad too which might prevent them from acting how they actually want to in a situation.
Here is where we differ: you think hiding your teeth makes you less unattractive. I think showing your smile is more attractive than hiding your teeth.
I have bad teeth yet am constantly told I have a great smile; just like most attraction issues, confidence is key.
MAG7C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I had a friend in high school who didn't have much enamel on his teeth. They were pretty wrecked. Yet he had no problems getting women by the fistful (he was tall, as was I -- also slender, as I was not). And yes, full disclosure, I have seen his dick, it's pretty much average.nohomo He eventually got his heart broken and lost much of his mojo with the girls. He also got a new set of teeth.
I don't have "bad" teeth, they're just super crooked. I am super self conscious about it and anytime anyone tells me I have a nice smile I get all weird about it. I know I just need to have more confidence but it's really hard since I was teased when I was younger about it. Also, young children have a habit of pointing it out and it's very embarrassing.
Same for me. It's the thing I'm most conscious about. It's obviously most attractive to have good teeth, but I guess it could be worse. At least I don't live in the US where they obsess over white and perfectly straight teeth.
I do live in the US, which is why I imagine little kids point it out. Crooked teeth are a bit of an anomaly to them, I suppose. That's usually when I get the most embarrassed because it gets so, so awkward.
I'm sure I'm the one who notices it the most but I can't help but feeling that my smile makes me unattractive. I've thought about getting my teeth fixed but it's expensive and I'm 24 now which seems too old for braces.
I used to cover my mouth every single time I laughed but I've at least stopped that habit.
I can relate to that for sure. Every time I smile, I think about it. I'm 22 but it still feels too old to get braces... Here, you can get your teeth fixed for free if you're under 18. It's covered by the schooling system or something I think. But once you hit 18, you need to pull out your wallet and it's priced at $10,000 dollars to get braces. I'd considered saving for it or even taking a loan, and I still am. It's just so much money :(
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true there is something about the way Jewel smiles that makes her sexy and she does not have nice teeth
I think Drew Barrymore is pretty attractive and she doesn't have perfect teeth. I think it's because it makes her seem more relatable and more..normal.
I've read this as well, but the difference is attracting a woman in the first place and keeping her.
The first thing a woman is going to see in your dating profile is your picture. So maybe the brooding look is more attractive, just like larger breasts are more attractive. However, once you actually start dating you'll do a lot better with a smile and a good nature to go along with it than if you try to be a brooding, frowny action hero. Just like big boobs might get more attention on dating sites, but if the girl is an insufferable narcissistic idiot most guys will take a pass on a serious relationship with her.
dlk272 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm gonna need a source on this please...
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 16:55:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit
2gig ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:58:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Menโs photos are most effective when they look away from the camera and donโt smile." Source
pacotes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:23:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an aside, that blog is fucking great to read. I have never bothered with online dating, but I find OKC's blog fascinating reading, because it is awesome numbers/stats science presented in a rather readable manner.
Cool stats blogs like that which make statistics interesting are always a great find, as often people are turned off stats by their school/college experiences of it being a dry, dull topic.
I came here to say this...smile...it is very powerful
Srapture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't necessarily good advice to guys for looking more attractive. There have been a few studies now doing things like having women rate images of guys' attractiveness from pictures 1-10, and they would consistently rate the same guy with a "smoulder" face (so, like, slightly angry looking) higher than the rating they gave him when smiling, so one might be better off not smiling if they want to appear more attractive to people out and about. It's probably different in a more personal setting.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was this study done right after all those vampire books came
Out?
Srapture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would reading a book effect how someone perceives faces?
I don't think it's related to that. Certainly could be. Then again, I don't have the sources, so what I say means nothing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a joke. The vampire book craze had all those moody brooding teens didn't it?
Srapture ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get what you're saying, but surely it would require the films for girls to find that attractive. Don't think a description of a mopey face would quite cut it :P
Question, what do you do if your teeth aren't that nice? I have to false incisors (born without the adults) on a retainer which has very noticeable metal clamps on the sides. Sometimes when I smile I'll catch people glance at them and immediately become nervous.
Posted the same thing, because I thought it wasn't on here. I'm surprised how far down this is.
I'd take a good smile over almost all the other things people do with their faces to look attractive/hot/sexy. Just smile.
BZLuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus this is WAY too far down the page.
I don't care if you have permanent resting bitch face, at least turn the corners of your mouth up a bit. Be conscious of it as you go throughout your day. No, not a big shit eating psycho grin, but just the slightest of smiles is very noticeable.
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You haven't seen me smile, it's eerily reminiscent of Mr Burns' smile.
don't know why this isn't top comment. you look at a person with a smile you think: fun times, confidence, achievement, babies I have with this person will also have fun times, confidence, achievement
I cannot smile, whenever I try it always ends up like a grimace or my lips are simply flattish, ive tried my entire life but I can just never get a "good" smile.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I smile. A lot. Mostly cause I'm happy, but also when I'm nervous or uncomfortable. A lot of time I just have nothing to say so I stick a smile on my face. Anyway, I smile a lot!
When I worked in a factory, I caught a lot of shit for it. I had the nickname 'smiler', said sarcastically or endearingly depending on who you're talking to. I got on with most people. My boss though, constantly called me out on it and said I was 'undermining' him and called me a joke. He'd point out the most miserable, down-and-out people and say I should be more like them as they take their job seriously.
When I worked in sales, I had a similar nickname, 'smiley'. People are creative. But everyone would compliment me on it, and encourage me to stay positive.
I guess the point of the rambling is - it's really weird how one facial expression can be perceived so differently in two different environments.
Ashuvain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smiling reduces the other persons inhibitions, and will make them feel more comforatble around you.
I addition they're more likely to reciprocate this friendly action and be more welcoming.
Plus it aids the release of oxytocin which is important in relationship formation
emrau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
are you saying "you'd be prettier if you smiled"? Because everyone who's ever said that to me has made me want to never smile ever again. I don't know you, I do what I fucking want, and I don't give a shit if you think I'm "pretty", random old creep at the grocery store.
Try to align yourself parallel to the ground. If nothing else, at least you can name yourself a hoverboard and be closer to the truth than the alternative
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure to stay face up and ask girls if they would like to try out the hover board.
My trick? Go to grocery store, fill bag with cosmetics and health foods. Get home, dump everything out of bag. Put bag on my head. Continue to do nothing different.
mytwin_ ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:50:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey if you're a girl you already have higher standards than me.
[deleted] ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 14:10:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Shfiend ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:39:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In other words: we are all human beings. We all eat and poop like normal homo sapiens. That hot girl at the corner? Yes, her poop is stinky as fuck. Now, why don't you talk to her like a normal human being. She's not as intimidating as you think she would be.
more like: don't treat others with superiority or inferiority. i, for example, like to be given constructive feedback, but some of the people i know hate it. i can't treat them as i'd like to be treated.
At work everyone smiles when talking to one another. It's awesome going into work feeling like crap and ending up smiling from ear to ear an hour later
Janube ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once you're comfortable with this, start treating people the way they want to be treated (within reason, of course).
I can be perfectly fine with someone being an asshole to me, but despite that, I realize most people aren't okay with that, and I go out of my way to try to treat them how I believe they wish to be treated.
Rusork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What most people I know talk about, I have no clue of what to say. I usually end up smiling and nodding.
If by chance they get to any of my topics, I end up talking alone.
If you have no clue what to say because it's something you have no clue about, then it's perfect for conversation. Do you know why it's perfect? It's perfect because you have GENUINE questions; all you have to do is ask the questions. Most people love talking, so help facilitate by asking them questions.
ThatWasEasy
calebmke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But there's also the obvious point of being generally interested in what the other is discussing. If all they have is what's ripe in pop culture and you can't stand to care about it, make nice and try to change the subject. If that doesn't work remember "you can't please all of the people all of the time".
I assumed it was for someone Rusork was genuinely interested in because this thread is about being more attractive. If Rusork is solely interested in the person because he/she is hot, then I don't have solid advice for a person like that because I'm not that kind of person.
If you really try doing this it will work and it will be beautiful. It worked for me and made me very happy.
[deleted] ยท 218 points ยท Posted at 19:56:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop smoking, if you smoke. Better skin, better smell, more money for clothes. Wish me luck. Day 5 now. By the way you're all blessed with a fabulous look.
Fun Tip: However often you bought cigarettes/weed/whatever you're quitting, keep the routine. But instead of buying it, put the money into a container you can't see inside of (no glass jars. or do, whatever). A tin with a hole in it for example. Give it a year and open it, surprise fortune! Or if you fail to quit, you can value your achievement by time length and money saved, and try to beat it next time.
That goes for anything you're quitting. My tin is really heavy from quitting vending machines at college, but I don't wanna open it yet
i-opener ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:52:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I always used a debit/cc. I feel your message, I just can't practically adapt it.
mwashu66 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:38:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Open a money market account with your bank and transfer the money there instead.
You got this! The beginning is the hardest, but you can pull through! Don't think of it as quitting, think of it as a lifestyle change. Think of all that extra money you can waste on something else...
Get it! Stay strong. Quitting is an absolute mother effer at first but it gets easier. I was quit for about a year and a half until I fell off the wagon about 6 months ago. It just takes one to make you think you can handle having one "now and then".
I hopped back on the quitter train a few days earlier than you did, today is number 8 so I'm right there with you. You can do this. The first the days are the worst so you're through the hard part, it gets easier from here. Remember though, no matter how easy it gets, you're never more than a couple of lame excuses away from going back.
Hey keep it up man, it can be tough but you gotta power through
shiivan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:35:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
5 days? That basically means that hard part is over mate! Congrats! I will follow in your footsteps soon.
fandandy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:46:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soon? Why not just start now man? You'll continue putting it off until it's to late. It'll be worth it. In the famous words of Shia Labeouf "JUST DO IT"
shiivan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha you are completely right!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I quit a little over two months ago. Stick with it mate, the extra money really is nice :)
You got this! I know nothing about smpking, but I know a think or two about encouragement and persistancd, so I just wanted to say, you're gonna be fine. If you ever worry about how you're gonna feel, as someone who battles themselves internally on the hourly, just think, it's just your brain making it up. Think of those thoughts as an entirely different being and ignore it.
Best of luck - this Internet stranger believes in you!
0j0s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the best to you! I've managed to decide that from now on I only smoke when I'm drinking. And I sort of want to reduce drinking to once/twice a week. So far so good.
tek1024 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've got this! In another few days the smells and tastes you'll experience will feel like coming home.
Not too happy. Those people are creepy. Like overly happy people working in the industrial industry - they're either liars or morons. People aren't supposed to be that happy.
Aleski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure this is more applicable to parties or nights out at bars. Nobody wants to drink with Mopey McMoperson.
...I don't go to those. Too much happiness in one place. Can't take that much positive energy all at once. andtotallynotbecauseI'mneverinvited
Aleski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
totally not because I'm never invited
I've gone alone a few times. It takes practice but after a while it can be fun sitting at the bar and meeting strangers. You potentially meet some really cool people :)
And hey it doesn't have to just be bars. It can be w/e you're into. Concerts - parks - beach. Find something you really enjoy yourself and then meet others with similar interests.
This is true!
But... I don't drink at all, and I hate pop music and such. I... need to get out more. Studies, though, I suppose.
Aleski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate pop music too. Doesn't stop me from going to metal and electronic shows and dancing my ass off. I only referenced going out to bars because it seems to be on of the most common outings for folks, but totally do you man. All it is is finding something you enjoy, putting yourself out there, and practicing. Never give up :)
Just realised, you're too happy. This is suspicious.
(For serious though: Thanks for the encouragement, and the nice words.)
Aleski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I suffer from mild depression and other mental illnesses I don't want to post on my main account. Cheering up and encouraging others is a way for me to feel happier about myself.
Find a good indie coffee shop to hang out in. Join a book club, gym, hiking club. The fire dept and EMS always need help. Lots of ways to come out of your shell :-)))
Aha, actually, I do know some people I would deem as 'creepily happy'. To repost something I said on a previous thread about them:
There is literally nothing funny about that slightly odd looking letter 'S' on that billboard, or regarding your inability to do a question during Maths. What gives you the right... to impede on my miserable git brooding?
I don't know why it angers me so. To give perspective, I know somebody like this, and every time she laughs, it's so infectious, I smile too, but it infuriates the hell out of me. The very fact that it does cause me to smile makes me even angrier.
Regarding the anger, it was an 'irrational hatred' thread, haha.
Nobody likes a downer, but nobody likes phonies either.
Whatever your emotions, be genuine without being overbearing. Don't project your crap or your awesomeness onto someone who might be having a different kind of day--or life--than you.
That's where being considerate and kind enters the picture. That's what really matters.
You don't have to become a gym rat. But do something. Martial arts, sports, yoga. Whatever. Your balance will improve. Your posture will improve. Your metabolism will improve. Your sleep will improve. Your mood will improve. It's a magic fucking bullet. Never stop.
[deleted] ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 14:13:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Switch things up. I'm usually a jeans and shirt kind of person. But when I put on a dress, or even a skirt, it not only gives me a little confidence boost to be wearing something out of my norm. But people tend to notice. That little confidence boost can be picked up on by other people.
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 15:27:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely notice when a girl makes a change like that in fashion. A jeans and t-shirt girl is my type but seeing them in a skirt on occasion can really turn heads
Sure, people notice, but most people I know would just weirdly ask what I was dressed up for...
[deleted] ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 18:56:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. I've known many people over the years that turned out to be gorgeous as fuck when they lost weight.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:28:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
And if you're ugly having a nice enough body will make up for it.
On a serious note. going from super skinny to looking like I lift has made a huge difference in interactions with girls. They approach me sometimes now.
Being fit also gives you a huge boost in confidence.
lizper ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:14:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously!! Weight loss and just being in shape make such a huge difference in everything from how the person looks (obviously) to how they carry themselves. Just look at Chris Pratt for example!
Everyone keeps giving these B.S. feel-good answers of "Oh be confident" or "Be positive and happy". Those are great and all but they're so damn vague and trite. Let's face it... you can act like a Disney princess but nobody's going to be attracted to you if you look like Honey Boo Boo's mom and smell like you just walked out of a dumpster.
Put the pizza down, join a gym, take a shower... you're welcome.
CrashXXL ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I make fun of my boss. "You didn't realize you were ugly until you lost weight."
How does one gain weight? I've tried so many times and can never gain a pound. I eat so much and don't really do much (lol) but I stay way under weight. I'm 5' 10" and like 110 pounds.
I mean, I don't hate my body but I would love to be at least bigger than the average middle schooler.
Trezi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:02:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity have you ever tracked your calories per day?
My brother is an inch shorter than you but same weight and same deal. He eats a TON of crap, but I tracked what he ate for a few days and it turns out whilst it looks like he eats a lot, and eats a sheer variety of food, his serving sizes were relatively small so never ends up eating enough to gain any weight.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:58:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try switching things you currently eat for more calorie dense versions of the same thing. Trade skim milk for whole milk, margarine/cooking spray for butter, eat fattier cuts of meat, etc. Eat more avocados and nuts. Be sure to eat a lot of different veggies and fruits as well, to get all your nutrients. Also, make sure you're actually eating enough. I have a tendency to feel like I'm overeating because I'm constantly snacking, but actually eat far less than I'm supposed to. I've noticed the same problem in most of my friends who think they can eat whatever without gaining weight.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
count calories c: try something like an extra 300~500kcals a day from your TDEE (do recalculate when gaining weight until goal). To gain weight you must eat more calories than you burn, you probably don't eat as much as you think (calorie wise)
plsfight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. 170 cm and 92 pounds. Particularly with the new wave of expectation for girls to have larger butts and breasts, while I'm sitting here with bones and a chest smaller than a 10 year old's.
I lost a lot of weight since college, hasn't helped me much. Its like sure I'm healthier but I don't care about living longer or not having heart disease or diabetes when I'm older, I just wanna be more attractive, damnit!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It works. For some crazy, quasi-magical reason, it works. I've only managed to sortof make that particular transition successfully, but the difference between my mindset before and my mindset now is very real. It's awesome, and despite my anxious nature, it improves somewhat every day.
wggn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:53:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pretending to be confident is 90% of being confident
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:05:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually the real tip, I was horribly insecure at a point in my life. Just pretending to be confident actually made me more confident. Being a bit more confident allowed to pretend to be even more sure of myself. Rinse and repeat.
Edit: Try not to let it go to your head though, nobody likes arrogance :)
Mark7A ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just smile then
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Act like it. Walk with your head up/tilted back (not like a complete douch though), shoulders back and realize that most people you talk to are too worried about their insecurities to notice whatever causes yours
Drop the focus on living a life catered to meeting a desired perspective and do what interests you. Nothing criminal though.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:18:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you are a piece of shit. Then stop doing that
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:01:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but this is poor advice; there's nothing here to take action on or to help you achieve such a vague goal.
vlslatto ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:14:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, I will be more specific. In my experience, I've found that both men and women are attracted to confident people. People who like themselves, what they do, and who they are. It's easier to find love if you love yourself.
Therefore, if you're not confident in who you are, why? What don't you like about yourself? I'm not talking physically, but personality wise, what do you like/not like about yourself? If there's something specific holding you back, change it. If not, embrace yourself and be confident with your decisions. It will make you more appealing to a partner.
People are attracted to confident people because attractive people tend to gain confidence over their life through positive social reinforcement. Not because they just unconditionally love themselves or what they do or who they are. Actually, there are numerous attractive yet insecure people, but their insecurity is often hidden by their social success- people simply treat them better (the "halo effect.") When an unattractive person acts confident they usually come across as arrogant or "creepy."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have to disagree with that. As a super nerdy guy I don't shy away from that especially on dates. I love who I am but not I'm a narcissistic way. I'm honest about who I am and what I enjoy because if I'm with someone I want them to like me for who I am. All my friends enjoy being around me and have respected who I am as a person and I've successfully brought it over when it comes to dating.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:44:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the words I live by tbh. I'm a nerdy guy and play that card with everyone I meet. Not that I talk about all the nerdy things I enjoy with dates but I'm honest about what I enjoy and show some passion in doing so, regardless of how nerdy it might be if it were to come up in conversation. What people like to see in you is passion and more so being honest with youself and them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You missed my point a but, they just didn't give any means to achieve such a broad goal.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're either comfortable in your skin or you're not. No one can help you achieve it, it's all about you coming to terms with yourself. Sorry
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:13 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No one can help you achieve it
That's bull; otherwise what's the point of this entire thread? All I wanted to say was that they didn't provide any concrete steps for advice. Cheers.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:00:40 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's believing in yourself, no one can do that for you. It's vague advice but it's the mind set you want this wasn't a thread on how to become this person, it's what they look for. Sorry these aren't the answers "you're" looking for.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:32:35 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're done here; no need to continue. Cheers.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:41:05 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey man believe in yourself." -"No that's such bad advice." ~sucks to suck
You make it sound so easy for an insecure loser like me.
mkameli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the first step towards this is accepting who you are, which might mean first coming to terms with your failures, weaknesses, and scars from your past.
This is going to sound silly, but honestly, just being a decent human being. Don't say anything behind someone's back you wouldn't say to their face. Treat people with respect. Own up to mistakes. Be someone people look up to for those reasons, because in the end it's not going to matter how physically attractive you are. Some of the people I've been most attracted to haven't been lookers, but they are genuinely kind people and the kind of people I want around.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Own up to mistakes
this is hard. i made a mistake and it took me a full minute of thinking if i should admit im wrong or not before i said anything
Walk as you do naturally. If you walk with your chest broad and you walk with confidence, your arms will swing naturally. Don't think too much about it, otherwise you'll walk like an idiot.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What show was that with the lady who walked with her arms straight? Was it Slug on IASIP? Was it Seinfeld?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that was Seinfeld
jkv811 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually get so self conscious I cross them when I walk, which I'm sure looks weird.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:06:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been said to walk like I am carrying rolled up carpets under my arms.
I don't know if this is a particularly bad thing, and people have said that I walk like I think I'm "hard" which I suppose makes me look confident, maybe too confident.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The army bit is everything and the hardest thing for the people who need it the most.
On that first point, my brother is without a doubt someone who wears way too much deodorant and perfume thinking it's better with more. It's really not, that shit reeks.
Tutorem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speak and walk with the confidence of an army behind you
Well said! This does however not work if discussing lack of payments to sketchy people and do not in fact have an army behind you!
Get a haircut. Buy new, nicer shoes that don't cost 19.99. Invest in some button downs that are form fitting - not baggy. Invest in slim-fit jeans or chinos.
GotHamm ยท 357 points ยท Posted at 15:07:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A nice fitting pair of jeans looks good with almost anything. Girls also like seeing nice butts too so don't get them too loose.
Cheese, mayo, and peanut butter are probably flowing through my veins in place of blood right now. Bulking season 12 months of the year, especially after losing 9 pounds from being sick.
But vaggies have the micronutrients you need to feel good. Trust me. For a whole week, actually eat 5 servings a day and chug water. It really does help.
You'll have to forgive me if I'm not swayed by your compelling argument.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard for your body to absorb the nutrients from a multivitamin, and you end up pissing a lot of them out. You also need the dietary fiber from vegetables. The antioxidants don't hurt, either. Not to mention that eating veggies means you'll eat less other crap, which is always a bonus.
I feel bad using such a harsh word but this argument is just... stupid.
You still need 100% of your daily recommended value. And multi have usually from 50-100% of your needs depending on the vitamin or mineral in question. If you're likely to encounter the nutrient in even a shitty diet they include less so you don't go overboard. If it's a vitamin that is non-fat soluble it'll lean towards giving you extra because you'll just safely excrete the extra through urine.
Multi's work for certain lifestyles and diets and according to all these anti-vitamin article I've been reading mine is one that multis work for.
I'll give you that I picked a bad article, I just chose one at random...there is a paper I found on it. But essentially if you already have a balanced diet then you shouldnt need a multivit, they are expensive and you could find better alternatives that do a better job.
Phoenixx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Multivitamins aren't as readily absorbed into the body. You'll pee out a lot of it. Foods that are rich in nutrients contain other compounds that help the body process them, like dietary fiber.
Veggies are important for gains. They act as a buffer so that your food digests more slowly. The result is that more energy is utilized from your proteins and carbs. That means more becomes muscle and less becomes fat.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just have to start doing work outs that don't involve the pool.
lilnomad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Sometimes it doesn't seem like even a million squads would you get you a big butt. Playing baseball is the key to this. When I played baseball like 8 years ago, I had it, and now I do not.
Actually, a large majority of women at least state they don't want the ripped 6-pack guy, because they're not soft enough to lay their head on lol.
That's what we say but it's really just because we don't want to feel self conscious about our own bodies in comparison. Looks-wise an athletic type (not super cut bodybuilder) is best.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it depends on who the body belongs to. Some bodies look good on some people, and some don't. I usually care about the aesthetic of the entire person.
I wear baggy pants for this very reason. I hate it.
t3irelan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did/Do you happen to play hockey? I always hated my big ole booty and wondered why I was the only one in my family with the badunkadunk gene...Then came the realization that I played hockey for my entire life and that booty cushion I once hated is a direct result of the sport I love.
Also, chicks started to grab it a lot...so that kinda clued me in.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:58:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do it. As a larger guy that lacks a butt, my pants give me 'elephant butt'. While I'm envious, I am working on changing that, no matter how much squats make me ache.
Wait, the female people like guy butts ? Holy Fucking Shit. It all makes sense now.
For those wondering. In highschool there was a girl I really liked, but I thought she was teasing me about my butt all the time. Because, well she never shut up about it. Every time she saw me, she made a remark about my butt, and how it fit into jeans.
I mistook that for sarcasm, and might have lost my temper at her. I didn't know girls like butt too. Damn it.
Ask yourself this again. Why would anyone look at a 10 year old's butt?
didattoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn what about hips.
mine are kinda wide and I hate it
B4107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I as a male fortunately or unfortunately understand this well, now how do I get women to stop grabbing it at random? I now know how women feel when a douchebag is in vicinity
As a girl, honestly, I don't really care for big beefy arms. Or abs. Ever. In fact, I enjoy a nice Andy Dwyer body. However, I CAN appreciate when a guy has nice glutes. I just like it. I like nice, round girl's butts too.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girls have like butts die as long back as I can remember
All the jeans I used to own that fit were either squeezing on my ass like fabric vice grips, or they looked like a full diaper. I shopped at h&m and such. Their jeans were okay looking but the fits were inconsistent.
Please , when you find a perfectly fitting pair of jeans, buy them. Don't go vice ass and don't go diaper butt. It enhances your appearance so much.
Also! Wear a belt! Even if your pants fit perfectly!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my god for some reason women love my ass and bring it up often. Yes my ass is big (not fat man ass) but damn it makes me self conscious.
now if i could talk about their ass too without them yelling at me about "being a perv" even though they just praised mine x(
I can't count the amount of times a girl/woman has commented on my ass/assaulted it. I seriously think I've been sexually harassed more than most of the females I know. I'm not even hot but apparently my ass is catnip?
I just discovered slim fit Levi 511 and my life changed forever. Not totally overpriced and good quality, plus they look as good or better than those shit designer jeans.
Take that mom, you and your $200+ pairs of jeans.
efitz11 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:10:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of the best jeans I own are like 11 bucks. Men's slim fit chinos are like under 20 usually, if you can find a great store/pair. The ones that are like 200 bucks are stupid to me.
Took me forever to break the expensive jeans habit. All through middle and high school, my mom pushed that expensive bullshit on me, telling me that none of the others fit well or looked good.
Now that I'm out on my own, and have been for several years, I've discovered that that's bullshit.
Turns out, my parents didn't want me buying things that said "skinny" because they thought they were skin tight skinny jeans. That was false, slim and skinny Levis aren't skin tight on me and actually look damn good if I may say so myself.
I mostly thrift or shop at places like Primark and H&M and shit. Men's jeans in there are 20 or under, and women's as well (yay!). There is such a difference between skinny jeans and real skinny jeans - I once knew a boy who wore skinny jeans and we wore the same size, meaning this dude fit into a size 3 skinny girl jean.
Levis jeans are notoriously different fits each time -- make sure you actually try each pair on.Don't do what I did which is decide a certain style works and just buy it every time and assuming my body was now a different size.
I hate shopping in stores but pants are now the one thing I make a rule of always trying on before buying.
The question is "how can you make yourself more attractive" - maybe the style doesn't work. maybe the haircut was bad. maybe the shoes are old. it's about improving.
unseine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simply put, shoes make or break an outfit. A dude can be wearing a perfectly fitting $2,000 suit, but if he's got a pair of these on, he will look like a dipshit. No exceptions.
I can't believe this is this far down. When I get a haircut, I definitely notice how differently strangers treat me. I get more "hi, "hows it going?" and smiles from complete strangers.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a GOOD haircut. Just because you can get one for $10 doesn't mean that it is going to be good, invest in a good haircut, and use good product in your hair. While I still struggle with anxiety and depression I decided that I wanted to dress well, so I wear short sleeve collared shirts which I get at outlet stores for big brands. A $60 shirt will 9/10 times look better than a $25 shirt, and it will last longer.
Tebeku ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I bought like three pairs of these really fly flower pattern 19.99 summer shoes. A girl said she thought they were neat, so I'm sticking with it! Suck it!
I was just in italy. I was in this small town called monte fiasconi. I bought chinos there. ~$90 They're the best pair or pants i've ever owned. They fit nice, they look nice, its easy to remove stains, and I can wear them way longer before they need to be washed than all of my other pants. Chinos here don't compare. I'd love to get another pair but I have no idea where I could get them here.
Well, for example, there is a Primark near me. They sell chinos for 20 or less and they are an amazing cut and look. You can try places like H&M and Express.
Azonata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At times like these being rich actually does make a difference.
cjog210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Along with haircuts, actually go to something better than sportsclips or any other cheap barber if you can.
You change your clothes daily, but you're stuck with your haircut for weeks and sometimes months.
Alovhell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if you like having long hair, treat it nicely. I use special shampoo, conditioner and some drops from a hair-repairing liquid. If you do that, people will see your hair as something diferent and atractive.
ThreeLZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting shoes is the hard part. I feel like there's not much for men in-between dress shoes and sneakers. Theres those brown skechers that dads in cargo shorts wear, then there's boat shoes that frat guys in polos wear.
Invest in some Oxfords or whatever they're called. Sneakers are great but it really depends on the pair, I feel. Like, don't be chillen around in your ratty running shoes.
ThreeLZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I mean just something more casual than dress shoes.
It may be important to mention how slim the jeans are. My boss and managers wear jeans on casual Fridays, they're well fitted jeans, not tight as holy hell jeans. Jeans that look like you tucked them into your shoes don't look good. My boss and managers are men btw
Step 1: Go to a thrift store and spend under 10 dollars for a pair of nice looking pants and a shirt. Source: Have dressed many men this way for success
I think you missed the joke..."Billy" is the nickname Johnny Manziel gave himself over the weekend when he went to Las Vegas disguised in a blonde wig and a mustache. Unfortunately for myself and other browns fans, what I just said is not a joke...
snorlz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a child a of the 90's in America huh? Nada Surf- Popular. I loved this song in HS. I would categorize it as a one hit wonder. I don't remember much else from them, but I'm not from Cali where these guys are from (if I remember correctly). What makes the "lyrics" really interesting is they are from a How To dating book back from the 50's one of the band members found and read verbatim. If you listen to the song, these are words of advice from a dating advice book written ~60 yrs ago.
Edit- link broke
That's a pretty song. I don't remember it ever being on the radio here in Jersey, but I like it and I'm glad you posted it.
That video is so 90's it makes me smile. I miss the 90's. I miss a time before social media ruled the world and when I called my friends their parent's picked up and asked me how I was before I awkwardly asked for their kid to talk.
I loved this song. Always made me laugh when they say, "and if you see Johnnie Football Hero in the halls, TELL EM HE PLAYED A GREAT GAME! TELL EM YOU LOVED HIS ARTICLE IN THE NEWSPAPER!!"
90's music ruled. The last great decade of pop/rock music.
Just realised I'd never seen any of their videos before. But I knew their music (OK, mostly that song), as a 90's kid from the opposite side of the Atlantic.
I started washing my hair with baking soda two years ago and find I have to wash it much less often, plus it's healthier. I only wash it twice a week in the summer and once a week in the winter, and have noticed a drastic decrease in both greasiness and split ends.
pighalf ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:09:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When is a good time to tell him about my one month limit on dating?
I didn't know about this no washing hair thing until recently.
Mind you I am a 28 year old male. I live with my fiancee now.
Apparently NOT washing your hair (when it comes to women, at least) for prolonged periods of time makes your hair grow stronger and better. There are natural oils that your scalp produces that your hair needs.
Shampoo actually gets rid of all this and actually makes your hair dry and split-ends occur more commonly.
It's sort of disgusting if you sit and think about it, but if you think about how little girls sweat as opposed to guys then you start to accept it.
My fiancee has been doing this lately as well. However, she uses a cleansing conditioner (it's not shampoo) which she'll use for about 2-3 weeks. I guess it helps her hair but doesn't clean out the natural oil and doesn't make her hair smell. After 2-3 weeks, she'll shampoo once and start the process all over again. I do notice her hair looking much better lately.
I stopped washing my hair daily recently and I had made it much softer and doesn't stand up nearly as much. Two weeks sounds like way to long to not wash your hair though...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Catch biggest fish, use right bait.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:40 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surely the natural method is to wash your hair every day, and immediately after washing rub an oil product into it that makes it look like you didn't wash it.
fordr015 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:21:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to cook. I learned to cook with shrimp every day i cooked shrim with different flavors and styles. They cook fast and are small and rady to controll a few at a time. It gave me an understanding of flavors and the difference in cooking something and overcooking somthing.
ostermei ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 20:27:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
every day i cooked shrim with different flavors and styles.
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it.
You need a propane burner, a piece of plywood, some harnesses and duck take, a medium frying pan, ingredients and you're ready to go.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps carry with you a flame thrower and a pig on a spit?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would really help is being able to list every single shrimp dish in the world.
[deleted] ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 18:18:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be rude. Seriously, you could have a face carved by God himself, but if you're a major douche bag it will take your attractiveness level down several pegs... People who are genuinely kind, and friendly, are way more attractive than those who are not.
It doesn't matter if your appearance is a 10...
If your personality is a 3.... then you're a 3.
There have been a number of times I've looked at a guy and thought he was super hot...then he's started talking and all my attraction has evaporated (either bc he's douchey/rude or an idiot).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has happened to me as well.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's where this one gets confusing: be CONFIDENT and nice. People are usually more attracted to confident assholes than terrified, sniveling nice people. (a lot of folks will deny it, but it's clearly true.)
If confidence is equal, then yes, a friendly person will be more attractive. But being confident AND kind/friendly is harder than being nice and wimpy, or a confident asshole. That's why a lot of people are one of the other.
Aelo-Z ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:28:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My nose was chiseled by the GODS themselves
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ehh more like a 6
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look, I am not saying that you should get into a long term relationship or marriage with this type of person. I hit the lottery in that I date a 10 with a great personality. All I am saying is that true 10s are unique and can be breath taking simply by his or her beauty. This breath taking beauty will not be reduced to what a person will normally perceive as a 3 no matter how bad his or her personality is. I feel like most people try to downplay this phenomenon because of jealousy or something.
This gonna get buried, but here's the usual difference between attractive and non-attractive people, males in general. (Only the things that can be changed)
Get in shape, stay in shape
Skinny-fat? Gain lean mass, lose fat. Fat? Lose fat. Scrawny? Gain lean mass.
Not talking bodybuilder-ripped, but just so that you don't have a gut hanging out. It will also give you a nice, defined face.
Hygiene
Fat, sticky hair is gross. Same is a repulsive BO, dirty nails and hands.
Poor facial hair
Just let it go. If you can't grow a real beard or mustache, shave it. If you have a massive neck-beard, shave it. You either have a complete beard (trimmed, or full), or you don't. Don't lie to yourself.
Haircut
Try to keep up with the times. Get your hair cut regularly, and find something that fits you. If you're balding, keep it short.
Buy clothes that fit
Not saying that you must go out and buy 300 buck jeans or 5k$ bespoke suits, but at least learn how long trousers should be. How a dress shirt and sweater should fit. Don't cheap out on these items either, meaning: NO MORE DAD JEANS OR ILL-FITTING CARGO SHORTS FROM WALMART. No more $20 sneakers that look like the belong on senior-citizen. No more dye-tie t-shirts, or fedoras, or XXXL "funny" shirts.
Read male fashion advice, styleforum, or something like that for tips. You'll also be amazed how much longer certain clothes last, once you invest some extra money.
Take care of your teeth
Lets face it, the teeth are probably one of the most important first impressions you get from a man. Barring some terrible diseases, there's no excuse to have poor teeth. Yes, I know, I know, once you're there, it's hard going back.
Brush your teeth twice a day, and after meals. Floss religiously. Get 'em serviced annually.
I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
I get that's a joke but I actually agree with that sentiment. "Work on your vocabulary", what so you can be another shithead who gets posted to /r/iamverysmart?
Knowing how to talk to people in a non-condescending way is a much better life skill. If you work in a very tech heavy job, don't go spouting about complex subject matters to a layperson, put it into terms they can easily understand, or if they wouldn't be able to understand it without a huge amount of pre knowledge - don't fucking mention it.
There's no reason to go swot up on the thesaurus other than to be a pompous asshole. Just by not being a moron and living life in your native country you will have a huge vocabulary by adulthood anyway. There's no point being overly verbose other than to alienate people. Everyone can use big words, only people with no social skills choose to in an effort to impress people. It's not impressive.
Also, at least in the UK, I don't know anyone other than my parents (who are very anti swearing) who don't swear. Swearing seems to correlate with honesty.
C_Alan ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 16:04:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another one to go with this... Listen more than you talk. I know a lot of people who would get more done if they simply didn't open their mouth, and spew out non-sense.
And avoid playing one-upmanship. When someone is telling you their troubles, avoid trying to compete. It's natural to commiserate, but do so in a way that projects empathy not competition.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This, very much. Ended too many friendships because they became contests. I simply do not want to be compared with for everything I do, highs and lows.
Oh ffs I went to dinner with my husband the other night and this super loud 19yo was talking to her friend with no regards that everyone could hear her talk about "Oh Em Gee what 20yo can't cook bacon??" She had the valley girl accent and everything. I understand even more why teens are hated so much. Bonus, she dropped a few F bombs and caused a family to move tables and caused everyone to be uncomfortable.
So what if both parties are going this route? Just silence then? I don't understand why I'm always the one that is supposed to talk less than the other person. Someone is probably going to talk more, but it should be about even right?
Exactly this. Don't talk about your work, ask others what they do. You can learn so much stuff while you won't learn anything from talking about yourself.
I'd like to amend this one a bit, just to save any future pedants a top spot on /r/iamverysmart.
Using some profanity is totally fine, especially in the appropriate setting. Calling someone an ass has a very distinct feeling that jerk or butthead don't quite cover. "Sorry about my buddy, Mitch. He's a bit of an ass." It has a very specific meaning that isn't quite covered by other words.
So use profanity sparingly, and in the proper situations.
As for improving your vocabulary, Faulkner said it best:
Does he[mmingway] really think big emotions come from big words? He thinks I donโt know the ten-dollar words. I know them all right. But there are older and simpler and better words, and those are the ones I use.
Don't use big words, don't use small words, don't use complex words, don't use simple words, don't use obscure words, and don't use common words. Just use the right words.
As for improving your vocabulary, Faulkner said it best:
Does he[mmingway] really think big emotions come from big words? He thinks I donโt know the ten-dollar words. I know them all right. But there are older and simpler and better words, and those are the ones I use.
Good quote. The attribution is backwards. Hemingway said that of Faulkner. The source appears to be the book "Papa Hemingway", a memoir by A.E. Hotchner recalling his conversations with Hemingway. It's likely a paraphrase rather than an exact quote. Here's the source:
Word. A few people can pull off simple writing (I would give Carver that distinction), but I would take Virginia Woolf's meandering, fluid sentences over Hemingway's "minimalism" any day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, you have me hooked. What's a good Hemingway novel to just jump in to? Never read his work at all, but I'm generally well read.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, he wrote terrible poetry. It's shocking to me that someone so skilled at being succinct and expressive could be so bad at the art which embodies those qualities.
Yeah, I thought that sounded odd. Hemingway is a much better writer than Faulkner because he doesn't try to prove his worth with every sentence. And prose aside, his stories are just better in terms of plot. Fuck Faulkner.
thing___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Faulkner was a poet:
The hill rises, cresting. He has never seen the sea and so he thinks. "It is like the edge of nothing. Like once i passed it i would just ride right off into nothing. Where trees would look like and be called by something else except trees, and men would be called by something else except folks. And Byron Bunch he wouldn't even have to be or not be Byron Bunch. Byron Bunch and his mule not anything with falling fast, until they would take fire like the Reverend Hightower says about them rocks running so fast in space that they take fire and burn up and there aint even a cinder to have to hit the ground."
Going along with this theme, using more descriptive words is important too. As Mark Twain said,
โSubstitute 'damn' every time you're inclined to write 'very;' your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be.โ
The point is not to simply stop swearing, nor is it to use words like "very" in its place. You have no reason to say "it's damn hot out" when you could say "it's boiling out there". You can make your language more colorful easily.
Malician ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are both great points, which I'd like to support with a couple examples.
When it comes to profanity, the key is to use your words effectively instead of mixing them with excessive slang and throwing them around constantly like it's some sort of tick. For example, saying "Sorry about my buddy, Mitch. He's a bit of an ass" is totally fine and sounds intelligent. However, saying "Dude, I'm fuckin sorry man. Mitch can be such a fuckin dicksmack" just sounds retarded.
As for vocabulary, I just want to reiterate your point - just use the right words. Rather than looking for a bigger word to say what you mean, which comes off as pretentious, just try using a more concise word.
For example, I would say it sounds perfectly acceptable and normal to take the sentence "Brendan Dassey's trial wasn't fair because when the cops interviewed him, it seemed like he didn't really know what was going on" and make it a bit more specific by saying "Brendan Dassey's trial seems unjust, because in the interview footage with the police, he doesn't appear to truly comprehend the situation or the consequences that could come from his answers."
However, saying "Brendan Dassey's trial appears completely inequitable, based on the circumstances surrounding his interrogations and the inarguable fact that Brendan was not cognizant of the severity of the situation, nor the repercussions that would ensue in court due to his inconsistent confessions" is starting to push the boundaries of sounding like a pretentious asshole.
saying "Sorry about my buddy, Mitch. He's a bit of an ass" is totally fine and sounds intelligent. However, saying "Dude, I'm fuckin sorry man. Mitch can be such a fuckin dicksmack" just sounds retarded.
"Sorry about my buddy, Mitch. He's a bit of a dicksmack" is the superior third option.
My friend does exactly this (regarding your last example) and no matter how many times I try to explain, she just can't grasp how it actually makes you sounds LESS intelligent. Speaking like that only makes you sound smart to dumb people who think big words = smart. People who are actually smart adjust how they communicate depending on their audience and think you're an idiot when you make a facebook post that sounds like it's straight out of some pretentious book review.
p.s. I found your comment extra funny too because she loves the word 'cognizant'.
When I was an intern in law school, I drafted a motion to dismiss that started out looking like the second example but once the Harvard educated attorney got his hands on it looked about 1000 times more pretentious than the third. The motion was denied.
Harvard failed to pay attention to the first rule of legal writing: know your audience.
If you want to send a letter to a fellow top law firm attorney that requires a masters degree in English, a lifetime of spelling bee competitions, and copies of Black's, Webster's, and the Oxford English Dictionary on the desk in order to decipher, go for it. They'll be pissed, but go for it.
If, instead, you are writing to Joe Schmoe, an elected judge of the third district municipal court of the East Boondock County in the state of Appalachia, realize that his clerk, who probably went to an even shittier law school than he did is going to be the first person to read that thing. And if he can't understand it, he's going to recommend a denial and chances are the judge is never going to see it.
If it helps, I think the biggest thing that matters in "speaking intelligently" is being simple and concise. In the three phase example given with Brendan Dassey, the second one is longer than the first, but ONLY because it added more information. The third scenario is longer while actually losing information (the source footage).
Additionally, the third example shows a common mistake of attempting to sound too certain, passing off subjective content as objective content. "Inarguable fact that Brendan was [unaware]" is exactly the kind of nonsense you hear sometimes.
Explaining complex things in simple terms is an invaluable skill. My son is in the fourth grade and has expressed a lot of interest in science. I have gotten very good at explaining how the universe works in terms a fourth grader can understand, and it's served me well in other areas of my life. Especially at work.
I think we all do this occasionally. In my friend circle, there are a lot of people who have very technical skills and we will talk about them fairly in depth, eventually the conversation gets to a point where either the ideas or the wording is just alien.
A good thing to do when this happens is to just cut them off and say "word vomit" or "using English?"
No feelings get hurt, and it's a good way of telling them that you're smart enough to keep up, but no one can juggle word soup. And it serves as a reality check that not everyone specializes in or is even vaguely familiar with your area of interest/expertise.
Right, and people that like to use "big" words will sometimes use them wrong or pronounce them wrong, and then the jig is up!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used go sell computers, trying to use all the proper terminology with an 80yo grandma would lose me so many sales. One of my coworkers never quite figured this out sadly.
"Brendan Dassey's trial seems unjust, because in the interview footage with the police, he doesn't appear to truly comprehend the situation or the consequences that could come from his answers."
IMO this would sound fine in a piece of writing, but if you actually try saying it out loud in a conversation then it sounds really forced, as if you're actively trying hard to sound intelligent.
I totally see what you're saying, but at the same time I think it depends on your audience.
I said this sentence almost word for word this morning (which is why I used it as an example) during a conversation I was having with an attorney friend about our thoughts on the case. I mostly put my emphasis on the "doesn't appear to truly comprehend the situation." Sounded alright in context, considering we were discussing whether or not we believed the Dassey trial was executed properly or not.
But again, that was in a conversation with a lawyer. When talking to my SO about it, I just said "UM OK THAT WAS NOT FUCKING FAIR AT ALL" with a mouth full of Doritos. So, ya know, audience. :)
Alright, that makes a lot more sense. Yea, context is everything, from your comment I assumed you had said that to a friend or SO, which would be weird as fuck.
Remember who your audience is. If you know the people you're talking to don't have good vocabularies, regardless of the right words, you might want to use simpler words even if they're not quite as good.
Very valid addition to my point! And even if your audience does have a strong vocabulary, it can still come off as pretentious to use unnecessarily technical or "big" words in small talk or casual conversation.
I guess the point is just to gauge the situation and the audience, and adjust accordingly.
I like to play basketball, and we have what's called a KYP error.
KYP stands for "know your personnel".
Basically, if I'm playing point guard and I make the right pass, but the guy I pass it to has terrible hands and drops it, it's actually my fault for making a pass that he couldn't handle. That's how I look at it. Even if you're using the right words, that doesn't matter if the audience, be it one person or a stadium of people, doesn't know what you're saying.
It works in any sport, and I suppose it works in business, too. If you hand off a task to an employee who clearly can't handle it and he/she fails, it's actually your fault because you knew his/her limitations.
I think it's safe to say that variations in levels of vocabulary are entirely subjective, particularly pertaining to law; legal language can be notoriously precise and difficult to understand. In general, what's pretentious to one person might simply be effective use of language to another. It's all about context and using words of which you are confident of the meaning.
HAHA i actually felt more fluidity from your last example; although I had never seen the exact word "cognizant". Other than that I loved the way you rephrased it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found the alliteration helps to make the last sentence even more pretentious.
Am I missing something? I don't see any alliteration..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inequitable; Interrogations; Inarguable
Completely; circumstances; Confessions
They might not be right next to each other, but it still made itself pretty clear to me when reading over it. Especially the "C "(as in K) sound (Also there are a couple more words with the "C" that I didn't include because not all would consider those an alliteration with the others).
Ah, when reading it aloud it does flow very nicely. I can hear it, I just don't really notice when reading it I guess. That and I never consider vowel sounds when observing alliteration, so my brain glazed right over those first three. Neat!
"Brendan Dassey's trial seems unjust, because in the interview footage with the police, he doesn't appear to truly comprehend the situation or the consequences that could come from his answers."
That sounds pretentious. Get rid of 'truly' at the very least.
omgacow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:16:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
because in the interview footage with the police, he doesn't appear to truly comprehend the situation or the consequences that could come from his answers."
Honestly the only good part of that sentence was adding the word unjust. The rest of this sentence is overly wordy and doesn't sound intelligent at all.
Unless English is not your best subject, in which case lean over to the person next to you and quietly ask what the first word to come to their mind is, because all you can come up with is "fuckin nuts."
Don't use big words, don't use small words, don't use complex words, don't use simple words, don't use obscure words, and don't use common words. Just use the right words.
This right here. Every synonym of a word, whether it simple or complex, well-known or obscure, whatever, conveys a slightly different meaning. Knowing those slight differences is what makes you sound smart, not knowing the most complex word out of all of them.
I cant stand it when people use an ill fitting, but fancy word to say something that could be said much more eloquently using a more common, but more precise word.
No need, really. "Avoid profanity" is reasonable advice when you consider that is does not mean never use it. Avoiding it as a general rule and bringing it out when appropriate tends to make it more impactful. If you're generally soft spoken and pleasant, a simple "what the fuck?" will be far more expressive from you than from someone who includes "fuck" in every other sentence.
Clarification may be more in order regarding vocabulary. Knowing when and how to use them is as important as knowing the big words. In a way, it is much the same as with profanity. If you overdo it, it loses impact and makes you sound like you are trying too hard. But used more sparingly and without trying to force it can enhance the meaning you're trying to convey. Even when a word has essentially the same meaning, using one that not as over-used can make a simple expression more memorable. E.g. /u/troublehunter 's example of using "unjust" in place of "not fair" below (or wherever his comment shows up relative to this one).
You must admit, Troublehunter does sound like a male name. I agree as well. Having an expansive vocabulary doesn't necessarily mean you pepper your speech with big words. In many cases you may even use one precise word in place of many. Just as 'Unjust' replaces 'not fair', a word like 'amidst' in place of 'in the midst of'.
Does it? It's actually a reference to this Astronautalis song about the Revolutionary War Battle of Trenton.. Not sure what the deal is with the music video though; I guess the low budget days were rough on Andy.
Only because, and this is a male perspective, men tend to hunt trouble more than women. Cool song. I googled it and it's supposed to be about the battle of Trenton. The video makes no sense if that's the case.
I agree, but I'm pretty good at hunting trouble myself. :) And yes it is the Battle of Trenton - that's totally what I meant! Astronautalis is really underrated in my opinion; he's super versatile and has thoughtful, intricate lyrics that hold my attention. He did a song with POS called Story of My Life that I adore.
I like the line, "You can find a swarm where the stingers hold back" in the refrain. I take that to mean, we find companionship when people are welcoming and not throwing verbal darts out at people.
Coincidentally, I was just reading about the Battle of Trenton in Sarah Vowel's new book on Lafayette.
except for the part where you imply that I am male because I'm not.
Apologies. No slight was intended. Personally though, I am more inclined to using male pronouns generically when gender is unknown rather than the more cumbersome "he/she", "his/her" method.
Exactly, and using the right words improves the more words you know. Just don't be one of those people trying to use words to show off rather than say something
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hemingway wrote one of the saddest things I've ever read. Very simple. No big words but it really gets the feel across to you.
Don't use big words, don't use small words, don't use complex words, don't use simple words, don't use obscure words, and don't use common words. Just use the right words.
LOL ok. That just made vocabulary the most complex problem we face today.
You should save yourself first from /r/iamverysmart. You just attempted to cite Faulkner, which is already a little obnoxious. But in so doing, you managed to switch Hemingway and Faulkner in your attribution, which would be impossible if you had actually read either of them.
Ya caught me; I misread who the quote was attributed to this morning. I didn't even know they were authors. I thought they were professional wrestlers or something.
While I don't cuss hardly ever, words like douche don't really have a non-profane equivalent. When I hear that someone was a douche, I know EXACTLY what that person was like. You don't get that from other words. Otherwise, I use substitutes. Fuck-> screw, shit-> shoot/ crap, etc.
Cuss words are more versatile, but not worth everything that comes with it. Also, huge turn off for me.
I think this is ridiculously stupid. Just be yourself and stop worrying so much about grammar to impress people. Impress them with who you are. Bunch of fakers if you ask me
That's a really good quote. Any advice on how to improve your vocab?
Fan_Boyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:50 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a Mitch ass
MrSlothy ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 16:11:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless who you are is profane as a sailor. Almost every girl I've dated has sworn as much as me, you'll be happier being who you are and having them accept you for it than holding back all the time. Unless you're meeting their parents, then you should dial down..
I try to hold back my sailor vocabulary until I'm familiar with you/know you can handle it. Once we know each other a bit I will fucking tell you every shitty part of my god damn day having to deal with all these fucking assholes in this shit hole of a dead end job. Its fun to curse.
Girl here. I have a sailor mouth. I realize that it can be unappealing to curse so much, but eh. I try to watch my mouth around people I don't know well. I curse a lot around my friends. I don't curse at my parents. Finding a guy with a sailor mouth would be extremely helpful.
If your in the UK just look north. Anywhere above Nottinghamshire will be packed with pottymouths
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, that won't improve your general appeal though.
z500 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I don't want to appeal to people who don't interest me.
MrSlothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're suggesting being something other than what you are to fake appeal to the opposite sex? Like intentionally misleading them to like you? Seems legit.
naghator ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:38:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WATCH YO PROFANITY
snorlz ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 16:47:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a girl and I've had guys tell me they love it when I curse. Its strange bc every woman ever has told me guys hate women who curse. I guess it differs between people
The thing about swearing is its impact wears off the more you use it and you just begin to sound like trailer trash. From the hostesses point of view, she isn't thinking... I want to get with this guy and listen to him wax rhapsodic about life, the universe and everything. She is thinking... sit this guy away from the respectable people.
My best friends new boyfriend once said "Why do you use so many big words? Why don't you just talk normal?"
Not long after my best friend of many years cut me off completely without explanation, last thing I heard they were engaged.
I wish I could remember what was the big word that I said. Something like "exorbitant".
Sometimes people just don't like you I guess.
It really is hard for me to not use profanity especially when I'm excited about getting a point across. However, when I do use profanity I lower my voice extremely almost to the point of just mouthing it and it seems to help.
feo_ZA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely the vocabulary.
Nothing less attractive than someone who can't string together a decent sentence.
I curse all the fucking time but I also have a great vocabulary and can articulate myself very well to people even whilst cursing. I attribute it to my love of hip hop and gangsta rap.
I find that mixing profanity with an above average vocabulary allows me to seamlessly traverse both the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. I'm just kidding. I don't fuckin' mess with the bourgeoisie.
You can be intelligent and have a large vocabulary and still use profanity. Profane words are just words, they've just been arbitrarily assigned as "bad" words. I find it amusing that people who tend to think that profanity makes you sound stupid think that psudo-swears such as gosh, dang, and crap are ok.
The question was centered on attractiveness. If you use 'fucking' in front of every noun, you are objectively less attractive. It's not necessarily because you are using a 'bad' word, but because you have this huge vibrant city of words at your disposal, and you confine yourself to the slums.
Never is for choirboys. I should have said avoid lacing your speech with profanity. The less frequently you employ it, the more impact it has when you do.
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wait so you cant use emojis in irl convos??????? bruh smfh lmfaoooooooo
same for dem akronyms? sheeeeeeeeit
also the same for memes? yeesh
zedoktar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a ridiculous vocabulary but I prefer swearing like a sailor as it has far more impact and adds a great deal of emphasis. It also helps that fuck is probably the most versatile word ever invented. It can be used in any part of a sentence for any purpose.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is certainly one of the better comments I've seen.
Have you not read Auden, Joyce, Pynchon, Gaddis or McElroy? You can be both if you're not surrounded by prudes who fear a word. But, you go ahead and keep throwing words around and lame quotes in an attempt to sound smart.
There were actually some studies done that found swearing helps with pain relief. Knowing what words to use and when to use them is more important than just having a big vocabulary.
itaShadd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I possess a bounteous vocabulary but indulge in prolific obscenity?
Ancel3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This annoys me to no end on Reddit, I swear everyone on here is just edgy tweenagers who just found out they can swear when the grown-ups aren't looking.
And every time it comes up, someone gives the "Well they're just words, it's society that randomly decided that these words are bad" argument.
It doesn't matter if they mean nothing, they're ugly and I will instantly think less of you if you blast the F-word three times a sentence like my brother does. Like /u/HelmetTesterTJ said, they do have a very specific purpose in that they're stronger than other words, but don't call someone a fuckin' asshole at a kid's birthday party.
I realise it has nothing to do with being Scottish but my American friends were stunned at how much I swore. I try to keep it trim. I wasn't even aware how much I was doing it. I can't remember who said it, it may have been Billy Connolly, but we tend to use "fucking" as a comma.
But...but....but some words just can't get the message across like a well placed curse. And fuck is such a fucking diverse word that make sense in a fuck load of situations.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:23:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a coworker that likes I use big words wen he is talking, he will stop after he says them and ask if you know what it means. It makes him look like an ass, in casual conversation about football or the Marvel movie he just saw there is no reason to use SAT words, it doesn't make him look intelligent he looks like a pompous ass. Just imagine Frasier talking about Pokemon
Big words are more commonly used by not so intelligent people. Really intelligent people will use simple language.
Jonnycd4 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, however from my experience when you're 18/20/21 the girls of the same age I've come across at least, think this isn't attractive at all, more swearing the better.
boedo ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:42:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is me in about three months when I finish this new years cut. Trying not to think about it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a similar path. Lost 25 pounds last year and now have ten or so to go. I've been on a plateau for 6 months and have just started today my new year's cut. Good luck!
This is me in about three months when I finish this new years cut. Trying not to think about it.
Brainous ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:47:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just losing weight isn't enough, you also need to exercise and build muscle mass. I lost 15 kg last year and was in underweight category, which sucked. Combined with my white skin I looked sick and I was once stopped on the street and asked if I was okay. It was my wake up call.
boedo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:53:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true for you, but most people would benefit from losing weight. Especially redditors, am I right guys!?
And eat their most attractive body parts. By doing this, you will absorb their attractivness molecules and become more attractive yourself. It's a win-win!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:44:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At that point it wouldn't matter... I'd be the only person left...
tori1965 ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 15:36:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NOTE: for those of us sensitive to smells, perfume and aftershave need to be used VERY sparingly....after dealing with customers who seem to have bathed in some strong smelling stuff, i have a headache the rest of the day
Yeah, and a lot of guys, especially young guys, seem to bathe in aftershave or cologne. Like, I can walk into a large room and already smell them if they're sitting 20 feet away at least. And when they leave the room still smells like them an hour later. Suffocating! And I'm a guy so it must be even worse for women, who apparently have a better sense of smell.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:33:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, bitches have stronger sense of smell than humans.
What is with people not liking axe ? I am getting serriously worried here, I have only used axe, since, well since I started needing to use deoderant.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:52:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The commercials kinda gave people the notion that no matter how much axe you use, women will flock towards you. Leading to people spraying half a can and leaving any room they walk in smelling like the stuff. I liked it at first, but it started giving me a headache when I walked past people who douse themselves.
Noted. I usually just 2 second spray under each of my arms and a single spray to my neck.
Sometimes I wish I was a woman. A woman without sweating problems, like exsessive sweating. Women who don't use deoderant, even the non scented stuff, smell fucking awesome. I wish I could smell like that.
As for your description of how much Axe you put on, I have no clue if that's too much since I've never used Axe before. As I stated before, I'd axe other people if they can smell you from more than 3-4 feet away. And when you ask them, don't tell them how much you put on; it's irrelevant. If they say they can smell you, simply put on half as much, then ask them again some other day. Rinse and repeat. If they can't smell you until they're within arm's reach, then you're doing it right.
Ok, so I am not in school anymore so it won't be snitching. Everybody I knew from school who bathed in axe, was a smoker. You didn't hear this from me.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:33:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
one spritz to the neck, one to one wrist, then roll the wrists over eachother. That is it with cologne, gents. It is either cologne or aftershave, you cannot have both.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like when riding a bike behind someone else and you can identify their cologne, that's too much cologne people!
Just to give people headaches I'll make it my life's mission to mingle 24/7 and wear my t-shirt that I held in liquid perfume at least 10 hours before wearing it.
There will be a day where people with perfume allergies can't even leave their house without smelling us, the active perfume activists.
Life without perfume is worthless!
People who work in service industry - you are all extremely fucked. Expect us. Customer is always right, I'll make sure to ask lots of questions and practically never leave!
3 sprays max. One on the torso, one on the wrist and rub that against the other wrist, and one on the back of the neck and rub it against your whole neck. It gives you a nice thin coat in respective areas where people come in contact with you.
Edit: At least for guys. Don't know about application for girls. May be the same.
This is a thread of specific advice that most people would find more attractive. Drowning in scents most people find repulsive, which they were noting, nobody is telling you not to do so.
Colopty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:51:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the main idea of your comment was to say that you're an ass.
I'll help out: You're responding to advice on how to be more attractive to more people with basically "ppl can do whatever they want - fuck off."
This has no value to anyone here. Obviously you can do whatever you want. Obviously you can refuse a small piece of advice that would help many others who weren't aware they were doing something a bit repulsive. Your comment is pretty much devoid of meaning in this thread, besides making it apparent that you're a bit of an ass. Comprende?
I realized this when I was younger. I was in a bar one night and a group of about 4 girls walked by. I'm 6'3 and one of the girls stopped, threw her head up, got on her tippy toes and smelled my neck and said "oh, you smell really good". It was weird, but it made me feel nice.
Fuck that. All any aftershaves and perfumes are a HUGE turn off for me (girl). And I'm not sensitive to smells, I just think it's arrogant to impose the fragrance YOU want on other people when they have no choice.
I like the smell of a clean body. THAT'S the sexiest smell.
Buy clothes that fit!! This is huge. You can pick great clothes you can match them and make them look awesome, but if they are too lose or too tight its all for naught.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:18:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pee on everything you see. The women will see that you are the dominant male and will all mate with you
Sane333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially on that damn ass gay ass rock.
gggh0st ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:02:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Guys in your 20s, start moisturizing your face before bed and in the morning.
Get a nose hair trimmer and tame that shrub.
Invest in a namebrand polo (US polo association polos routinely sell for less than $25), some namebrand jeans, and some nice shoes. If you have a hard time with fashion like I do, drag your sister or a female friend along with you.
Invest in a nice watch. Silver band for lighter skin, gold for darker skin tones. Or, get a simple band (match brown band to belt/shoes - same with black).
Touch up your facial hair everyday! If you are balding at a young age (like me) facial hair is a must - also, don't cling to those string remnants - get an electric razor and use it on your head everyday.
Buy nice smelling deodorant (degree, most axe deodorants, most old spice deodorants). Also, if you're overweight/sweat a lot, try applying baby powder to your genitals after your morning shower.
Brush your teeth in the morning evening AND FLOSS!!! I'm not a woman, but every time I see an otherwise good looking dude with plaque between his teeth I shudder. If you don't think this is an issue, go and floss right now, look at the little gaps between your teeth. People notice this.
If you don't already work out, start doing 3 sets of as many pushups as you can before you shower in the morning. I do 2 sets of 20, then 1 set of 10. This will cause your arms and chest to swell in the short term, giving an acute appearance of an established chest and if you do it long enough will GIVE you nice pecs/arms.
If you use spectacles, invest in some nice ones. Ask a friend to help you find some nice ones. Also, try contacts. I personally don't like the idea of buying $300 glasses so I wear my nerd goggles at work and just wear contacts the rest of the time.
Generally improve your life. Start making sure you regularly get 8 hours of sleep at night, eat a little healthier, work out 3 times a week. Listen more, talk less. Get some normal hobbies (canoeing, hiking, bicycling, camping, working out). It's hard to attract people when you live in your room watching netflix/playing video games all the time.
When you go out, don't get hammered - have enough drinks to get a little silly/relaxed. Try nicer beers/bars.
edit: forgot my biggest flaw here, quit smoking. It isn't cool. Smoking yellows your teeth, makes you smell constantly, causes skin to age prematurely, and reduces vascularity - gimping any workout or physical activity you might be doing.
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pivot5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's where it goes
ostermei ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:24:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
to instantaneously attract all female homo sapians
Bruh.
If they're homo, they ain't gonna want no D, helicopter or otherwise.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:28:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have your species mixed up, bruh. It's homo homo sapian females who won't be attracted to your aggressively rotating dick as it beautifully cuts through the air with such seductive grace, such irresistible ferocity.
BFlocka ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:24:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:49:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident in getting across what you do and do not like. Nothing is worse than trying to make decisions for someone who says "I don't know" or "whatever you want" to everything. It may be a small thing, but it makes a huge difference in others perception of you.
This a million times. I've had multiple girlfriends who suffered from this syndrome. "Where would you like to eat?" "I dunno." It is so frustrating being in charge of what happens in our day all the time. How do I know you're happy if you never have an opinion on anything? Stop being a child and tell me your thoughts, it's not as though you telling me how you feel is gonna make me fly off the handle.
Very sound advice. Coincidentally, I had this conversation last night with a friend who was inquiring about my dating experience. I relayed the wincing story of the multiple girls I've shared a meal with and they often just say, "I don't know," "I guess," or "It doesn't matter to me." Gees. Humor me at least and make something up. The ambiguity is a major turn off. The uncertainty leads me to prejudge future scenarios with you and having to guide your decision making.
I do this a lot, like when I kind of don't want to do something and my husband goes "Well, do you want it or not?" and then I get all wishy washy because I don't want to do the thing a disservice by not choosing it and saying "I dunno... I kinda... Well if you want to...." is nicer than giving a solid answer. Drives him nuts and I'm working on it.
Ennion ยท 1090 points ยท Posted at 18:06:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Don't be fat. How many great looking fat people do you see and then think, "I would love to have sex with that person"? None.
Too much scrolling to get to this. Anyone who's ever lost weight will tell you this is the gospel truth. When I was big, it was such an effort to get a girl to give me the time of day. Met a great girl when I was heavy and lost the weight and she's the one who has to tell me "um that girl was thirsty as hell and you think people are just nicer all of the sudden for no reason?"
Ennion ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 21:44:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I posted this. Great insight. Usually I am downvoted for being honest in these kind of threads. It's not fat people hate, it's just truth. Exceptions to to the 'rule' excluded.
Yeah, but exceptions do NOT prove the rule here. The majority of Americans could stand to lose a few pounds, and convincing themselves that they are "fat but still in shape" is not gonna help. If you are fat, and you think you get an adequate amount of attention from people, and even get laid now and again, then don't change anything, I guess. But if you do want more from life, lose the weight. Don't talk yourself out of it because other people are fat and do fine if YOU aren't happy.
I like how whenever someone says they don't find fat girls attractive, someone instantly brings up "curvy" girls. Like you said, there's a difference between curvy, and a miniature planet
Awwww, mine's getting on for 10 now too!! Honestly I can't imagine a sweeter, smarter dog. Long shot, but are you from England? If so, what line is your dog from? They might be siblings, haha - there's not too many of them out there!
Hahaha, damn! And I've actually never seen another beardie irl other than at shows! I think our breeder holds a deep resentment for us since he's supposed to be a show dog and he's a family pet... we cut him a fringe in. She'd probably cry if she saw.
OMG yes I thought that was just my dog! Scratching his hip and his jaw makes him do the Beardie ecstasy groan hahaha. (did not intend that to sound so weird)
Huh, wow. I thought derpbit was just throwing that out there as a cheap generic compliment like you'd see creepy guys on /r/gonewild post. But that ass is legitimately amazing.
This. I am so fucking tired of being told I am a pig for not being attracted to someone because they are fat. I am like a lot of others here: I like a bit of curve. I draw the line at folds. By extension, I also can't fucking stand the fat acceptance movement. Alright, you want people to accept you and all your extra poundage. Fine. But I don't have to be attracted to you.
You've heard of "but-her-faces" that is an attractively shaped woman with an slightly askew face, so why are you unfamiliar with a "but-her-body" a woman with a gorgeous face, fun personality, well endowed chest buttocks etc it's all in the proportions see the underlying potential/beauty. Want to find a woman who truly loves every iota of your being? Find a bigger woman and over time watch them transform into dime pieces - with a sweet funny warm intelligent personality. Have you ever perhaps had too much to drink and drunkenly made out with a plus size woman. Were they not one of the best kissers imaginable? Could such qualities transfer to other areas of the bedroom?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, as someone who is overweight but actively working to fix it, the whole "its fine to be fat" thing is nuts. Its unhealthy and saying otherwise seems like nothing but denial. By all means learn to accept your self but part of that is accepting that your lifestyle is unhealthy.
When I was fat I had a lot more men interested in me. Im quite curvy now, not fat (no really, I have posted pictures from before and after) and while I think I look better now, people tend to disagree
guaranic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is absolutely correct, but for different reasons than you might imagine. Once I lost weight, I found well fitting clothes, had better posture, was more confident, and a nicer person (a result of the self discipline required and built by weight loss). Losing weight doesn't just make you less fat, it makes you more attractive.
wpiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being filthy rich seems to counter act this.
Kaell311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No matter what anyone says, this is completely true. And you can do something about your weight i promise, I used to be overweight and then i decided to change that and lost 50 pounds and now I'm lengthy and verging a 6-pack. It's not easy but it becomes habit to work out and eat right and I have much more endurance which makes it easy to do fun stuff and also being thinner makes me much more confident than i used to be.
They're fetishists since beauty is an objective standard and, if you're fat, then by definition you're neither beautiful nor healthy. They're mutually exclusive. The only people who actively sleep with fat women/men are those with no other viable options and fetishists. Given a choice the vast majority of people prefer those who are height/weight appropriate and fit.
MumBum ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:09:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I'm chubby or maybe I'm fat. I'm 5'6 and I'm 210 lbs. But let me tell you, I have about five guys trying to fuck me. Attractive guys. Skinny guys. Very fit guys. I have a cute face, a wicked sense of humour and I'm a good listener. And a sweet ass. Yes my thighs are thick and I have a chubby stomach. I birthed three children. But my confidence is high, since five guys are actively trying to fuck me.
FYI I'm not fucking them - I'm in a long term relationship. They are aware I'm not going to fuck them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MumBum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to see this. Get your eyebrows under control it makes a huge difference. I have my stylist do my eyebrows around once a month and it really doesn't hurt that much. Hot wax and rip, 10 seconds of pain max. Completely opens up your face and accentuates the eyes, you'll look so much more well groomed
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:36:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rip
opens up your face
I'll, um... I'll pass.
Kyrru ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:53:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel. Also, don't be shy to pluck them yourself if you don't wanna spend money. Just grab a good pair of tweezers and take off anything that doesn't look right.
Just be conservative. I focused on cleaning up one area at a time, letting it grow out once and redoing it just to sort of solidify that it was what I wanted, before going and doing the inner half of the brow or whatever. You don't wanna do something too drastic that can potentially take a long ass time to grow back.
I think for guys, having shaggy brows or a unibrow are a lot more forgivable than the overplucked look. I mean, contrast Joey Lawrence or Jared Padalecki with Tyler Hoechlin, for example.
Those guys may follow the natural line of their brows, but there is obviously some maintenance there. They're at least plucking above the nose to separate a unibrow.
Barring an eyebrow pencil, the only thing I can think of is making them appear thicker by rubbing against the grain and then keeping your hands away from them so you don't unconsciously smooth them down. (The opposite works to make my somewhat bushy ones look neater without any trimming.)
At least it's natural and not a bad fashion choice?
Me too. I ended up buying nail scissors and cutting the hairs instead of plucking.
0j0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Cutting is important too in eyebrow grooming but only to shorten the hairs that stick out once you've combed them up. You still need to pluck those above and under your definition line. Something like this. I've plucked for sixteen years now... It doesn't hurt, it even feels hygienic.
I mean that I cut the hairs down to the root that need removing. It works well enough.
0j0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you! I guess it surprises me because the root is usually the thick, most visible part in my eyebrows, but that may be proper to ones that are plucked regularly.
kaizex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im in the middle. If you pluck and touch up with an actual eyebrow tool, then it can look good. If you literally take them all of then you look like a chica cholo. There has to be some hair to give a look of fullness otherwise even a nice eyebrow pen looks like sharpie
eyebrow adjustment is not limited to just tools and pens. personally, i just use a tweezer to clean my brows up. there are pomades, powders, creams, and more. you can thread, pluck, wax, and shave brows, but the only ones people tend to notice are the bad ones. when people say "drawn on brows looks bad" what they mean is "i'm only picking out the bad examples, because well drawn-on brows look too real to notice".
this was posted recently on /r/MakeupAddiction, it's an excellent example of how someone with barely any eyebrow hairs can create an amazingly real eyebrow look. now consider that most people do have a decent amount of eyebrow hairs. you're thinking clara bow type brows, but the reality is many many people fill in or "draw on" their brows very often.
kaizex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres still a clear loss of definition in the link you posted though, thats the unreal part, you can change the shading and tweak it around all you want but you cant really recreate the volume of hair as it actually sticks out of your face.
Im aware that many people fill in their brows, and many do it well,but the key is to not take out too much hair otherwise the end result will always be smooth, which will look very unnatural at a second glace. That being said, most fill ins are done expertly well, and i dont mean to put down those with thin eyebrow hair, as you dont get a choice in the matter theres many things you can do with what you have that look very natural and full. But if you decide to take a wax strip to your face and remove every last brow hair, you will never recreate what was there in a natural way
Moffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started plucking my brows fairly recently as the monobrow really was showing. This video helped a little bit of (despite the stupid source: alpha m image consulting?!) but I haven't got the guts to do anything with scissors :/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use the scissors regularly, just brush them upward, then trim along the top line
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have actually been blessed with really great eye brows, i never really thought people gave a shit till a couple people pointed it out
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:06:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Under no circumstances should you EVER consider a comb over a viable option. If you're balding, just let it go. Own it and shave it.
Men: Please try to look decent/clean. I don't care how much girls love it when you're slumming it in sweats or if you think skinny jeans are stupid (I'm not saying everyone should be wearing skinny jeans but I hope you get the point). No matter who you are, the moment you start styling your hair a little bit, wearing clothes that fit properly and a little stylish, and carry yourself like the awesome hot adult you are, you'll start turning heads.
A fat guy with decent hair and clothes probably gets a lot more ass than just a regular fat guy.
GoHiroki ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:12:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Drink plenty of water. Hydration helps fill out fine lines, even skin tone, increase skin turgor, and reduce acne. It's also good for your kidneys, filtering the blood, and overall health.
I'm from a small midwestern town. Any time I go to the local Kroger there at least 90% of the people, minus employees, are in their pajamas. This is anytime of the day on any given day of the week. It's really kinda sad. I'm all for being comfortable but unless you are a coach or just leaving the gym how hard is it to put on a real pair of pants to go out in public? It seems like no one cares about their appearance anymore. Same with airports. My dad always wore a sport coat when we flew anywhere. Mostly because he didn't have to pack it then but still. It's nice to see people put a little effort into their appearance.
I'm fine wearing normal clothes (mostly jeans for me) everywhere, but I can definitely see wearing something super comfortable like pajamas on an airplane. You're going to be sitting in a confined space for a few hours, why wear something that will make you uncomfortable? It's not like you're trying to be social or impress anyone anyways, enjoy the flight and dress well when you reach your destination.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:03:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smart. That said, there's something to be said for packing a pair of slippers in your carry-on. Seat belts on = shoes off.
Han_Can ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:51:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I've flown I dress for comfort. Especially on those overnight flights. Yoga pants can be just too tight for that, sometimes soft and loose pajama-esque bottoms are the way to go
New_Acts ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:53:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The corny-correct answer: Yourself.
Feeling good about yourself leads to you feeling more confident and thats one of those truisms that confident people look confident. Its an attractive trait.
If someone isn't interested in that. Thats fine. its all situational. You wouldn't wear a tux to go get gas in the middle of the night.
But its not a stretch to say people who don't take any care of their appearance in dress or hygiene, probably don't have the greatest opinion of themselves
It's definitely situational. I'll clean myself up if I'm going out for a while but if I'm just running to the store to get milk or something, as long as my balls and ass aren't showing, I'll pretty much wear whatever I've got on. I'm generally just trying to get that over with as quickly as possible.
I totally understand this but too many times have I gone to do some mundane thing only to decide while I'm out to do something else only to be prohibited by my own frumpyness. Now, I like to dress for anything, within reason, because if you're prepared for anything, anything can happen.
That's what I do. I could live in my XXL sweatpants (I'm not fat, just love baggy clothes) but I take the time to put on jeans when I go out. Besides the obvious frump factor there's a good chance of them falling off if they get caught on something or if my kids grab onto them to climb up me.
This seems accurate to me. I live twenty seconds from a grocery store and if I'm going there to grab one or two things than I could not give a flying fuck about changing. Feeling great about your style in public is one thing, feeling comfortable for a ten minute chore is another
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:38:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I do too. Basically if I'm going to be out in public for more than ~20 minutes then I'll change, but fuck the world if I'm just going to grab one thing I forgot from the store. The person you replied to mentioned dressing to impress yourself, which I completely agree with. I love dressing nicely and feeling hawt, but only when it's not an inconvenience for me.
Why do I have to care about how I look?! I barely ever see me!! I'm dressing nice in order to maximise the preferential treatment people get for looking better. Aint getting any of that at maccys
You're at a fast food place and some attractive people of the gender that you like take a table next to you. You don't really care if you're attractive to them.
Well ok, but I think that you're in the minority of single people. The advice is there, and you obviously don't have to take it!
Well, I answered this in reply to your other comment:
You never know if you'll see them again.
It's nice when people think you're attractive (as I said, maybe you don't care if random people think you're attractive. I think most people would like to be thought attractive).
Sometimes, they take the initiative even if you don't.
Heheh, I am. But I still wouldn't go talk to a stranger in a fast food place (or even a bar. Or even a party, really, except to make a joke if we were both waiting for the bathroom or something).
But even if you don't start a conversation, it's nice to have them notice you. And you never know whether you'll see the same person around town again another time. Nice to think that they might remember you. And every once in a while you get a girl who's actually bold.
Those days are over for me, because I'm happily married. But even so, I still want girls to think I look good!
Well there you go. But people might notice you, and if you want them to think you look good, then... but we've been through that.
Ok, take care.
saracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between giving the advice of "Put some effort into the way you look!" and "DON'T EVER GO OUT IN PUBLIC IN SWEATPANTS YOU FILTHY CASUAL. EVEN FOR A MINUTE"
OP literally said to not wear pajamas while grocery shopping.
This is a thread about being more attractive. The advice is to get out of your pajamas when you're in public. There might be people you want to attract out there.
saracuda ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any time I go to the local Kroger there at least 90% of the people, minus employees, are in their pajamas. This is anytime of the day on any given day of the week. It's really kinda sad. I'm all for being comfortable but unless you are a coach or just leaving the gym how hard is it to put on a real pair of pants to go out in public? It seems like no one cares about their appearance anymore. Same with airports. My dad always wore a sport coat when we flew anywhere. Mostly because he didn't have to pack it then but still. It's nice to see people put a little effort into their appearance.
OP is worded it in a way that was meant to shame people. That isn't the same as the advice you assumed it was. If all they wanted to do was give the advice to make an effort in public, they would've said that. Instead, they said people shouldn't wear comfy clothes at places like the grocery store or the airport, and that it's sad.
I replied to someone who asked why he should bother wearing better clothes when he goes for fast food. I don't think that OP's shaming or not has anything to do with it.
To me, the key point is that it's nice to see people put in effort, so put in some effort to look more attractive. Is he or she shaming these groups of anonymous people who wear pajamas to the grocery store? I don't see how. That's not what shame means to me, but it's beside the point because I'm talking about how to be more attractive.
saracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think maybe I projected other user's responses onto the OP's original message and continued to read it in that tone. There are quite a few people on here saying that no one should ever wear lounge wear in public (to a place like a grocery store), which is dumb.
I think specifying the places is what made me think this wasn't good advice, but you are right. If you're trying to attract someone random at a random location, dress for it.
I'm sort of distrusting of anyone who doesn't run errands as comfortably as possible. If I never see someone in sweats or PJs or their comfortable jeans and flip-flops or whatever, all it suggests to me is vanity and an inability to relax.
Honestly, if it's what you'd obviously lounge around the house in, and I ain't seeing your junk, I think it's all fair game if we're talking about when at Walmart or whatever.
Welcome to the Midwest. It's just what they do there.
Source: grew up on the Wisconsin/Illinois border.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The corny-correct answer: Yourself.
Feeling good about yourself leads to you feeling more confident and thats one of those truisms that confident people look confident. Its an attractive trait.
So true. I started dressing better, and now I'm all like "DAMN, you're killin' it!" all the time. I feel super sexy, and confident!
dryj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone needs that. I dress up if I want to look good, and I don't if I don't. I talked to someone once who did her whole makeup/dressup thing even going to the store for milk. Some people are confident whatever they're wearing.
But its not a stretch to say people who don't take any care of their appearance in dress or hygiene, probably don't have the greatest opinion of themselves
Or they don't have the greatest opinion of the way they look.
That was my mindset until recently. The older I get the less comfortable I am looking like a bum in public. I've noticed people treat you way nicer if you dress even decently well. That leads to higher confidence/self esteem, which in itself is the best life hack you can do.
It's about the way you present yourself to the world. I'm not saying be Barney Stinson and wear a suit everywhere, just don't wear sweats and a shirt 3 sizes too big when you leave the house. You'd be amazed how much better people will treat you when you don't look like a dumpster fire
I would say if you're past college age, unless you're going to the gym/workout/do something physical don't wear sweats at all in public. No such thing as nice sweats. But yes if you're going to wear anything probably a good idea to make sure it's clean.
I'm still in college and I'd say about half the student population arrives to class in their pajamas or sweatpants. Heck, when I go to the grocery store it's the same deal. I just can't bring myself to do that... I think the only time I went out in my pj's was to the grocery store at 2 am.
Lol!! Not gonna lie I think I was getting ice cream as well.
saracuda ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:43:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Grocery stores and airports are two places that I definitely don't put an effort into my appearance. I won't know anyone there, I'm not interacting with anyone except the cashier and bagger, I'm not there to impress anyone. Same thing goes for the airport if it's a long flight. Going through security sucks when you're dressed up, and then you're going to sit in a small space with limited airflow for hours. My skin gets oily on flights, and I curl up to sleep - I'm not going to spend time on my makeup just to have it get fucked up, or get my nice clothes wrinkled because some guy thinks I don't care about my appearance.
You wanna judge people on how much they care about their appearance? Judge them at a location where you're supposed to care about the way you look: working with clients, out to lunch or dinner, a night out, a party. When someone shows up to sushi night wearing their pajama bottoms and a tank top then you can say, "Ah, yeah that person probably doesn't care about their appearance".
I can't be assed to put on real clothes and makeup to go get eggs so that some random can be reassured that I take care of myself in the other 98% of my life.
Edit: Listen, if you're rebutting this with anything other than the truth that you believe people have an obligation to you to look nice, to please your eyes, then you're lying to yourself. At least be honest about it. This isn't about people feeling good about themselves, this is about how people make you feel with the way they look.
jenseits ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I put a LOT of thought into what I'm wearing to the airport, but it's all about comfort and convenience. It's not that I'm thoughtless or sloppy, it's just that there's nothing less annoying than showing up to an airport in a structured jacket, a shirt that will get untucked, shoes I need to unlace and relace, etc etc. I want something that won't wrinkle and smell when I get off the plane, comfortable shoes I won't slip in when I'm running to the gate, and enough pockets to fit the crap I need to have handy. Given that 90% of the people I'll run into at the airport have the same concerns, I'm not worried about being judged.
Like I said, my hometown is a very small town. I have never gone into that Kroger and not ran into someone I know. Not that I care to impress them per se but how are jeans, leggings, khakis that uncomfortable? I don't need to know what these people sleep in. I don't look at is as trying to impress someone, it's more of common sense for me. What if you are in an accident on your way to or from said public place? Do you really want to be sitting around waiting for the police/tow-truck whatever in your pajamas? Who knows what could happen while you're out running your run of the mill errands. I'm not judging anyone. That's just my personal choice. I don't find wearing jeans that unbearable.
saracuda ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:25:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you really want to be sitting around waiting for the police/tow-truck whatever in your pajamas?
This doesn't phase me whatsoever. It's not like I'm going to go out for groceries and accidentally end up at a formal gala event. You are judging people, you're making the assumption that they don't care about their appearance based off of a single interaction.
If your town is as small as you say and you're running into people you know constantly then you should reasonably be able to know, based on your other interactions with, if they're always wearing pajamas and lazy clothes everywhere they go or if they just wear them when they're running quick errands.
No one said jeans, leggings, khakis etc. aren't uncomfortable, my yoga pants that I'm already wearing are just more comfortable and already on me.
If you feel that you need to look nice wherever you go, then go you. That's great. Just don't call others sad because they aren't compelled to do the same.
I'm certainly not trying to offend you and I wasn't referring to any particular person as "sad". I think it is sad in general that the majority of people where I am from do not seem to make an effort in public as far as their appearance is concerned. One or two people in their pajamas while I am grabbing groceries on my lunch hour at noon on a Tuesday is not something I would take notice of. I am saying that the overwhelming majority of the public is dressed like they are going to bed. The thread asked what are simple things that an individual can do to make themselves seem more attractive. IMO, dressing appropriate in public settings is something that qualifies this. To each his own. Also, it's 11 degrees where I am right now so PJs ain't going to cut it as far as practicality/comfort is concerned.
saracuda ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't insult me, I'm just pointing out the ridiculous nature of what your post was specifically talking about: not looking your best in a temporary public setting, such as an airport or grocery store.
Dressing nicer is great advice for what the thread is calling for. Specifically referencing when running an errand or at the airport isn't.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my yoga pants that I'm already wearing are just more comfortable and already on me.
Exactly, why would we change an entire outfit just to run to the store? If I'm home and I need something, I'm putting shoes on and going to get it. I'm just as confident in my sweats as I am in my "nice" work clothes.
It's not like I'm going to go out for groceries and accidentally end up at a formal gala event.
I love this line! Yoga pants forever :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't need to know what these people sleep in.
Why? Are pajamas really that terrible that you don't want to see them? They are just comfortable clothes, not some kind of taboo thing that you should never see.
Do you really want to be sitting around waiting for the police/tow-truck whatever in your pajamas?
Sure, who cares? Why should I care what someone else thinks of me? I dress to impress myself, not others. I love dressing up, but I do it for myself. If I get stuck somewhere not dressed up what I'm wearing is the least of my problems.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. If I want to impress someone, I will, and I know I can. I'm not going to put on eyeliner just to pick up some tomato soup in the middle of winter. If I'm going out somewhere to represent, or if I feel like getting laid, yes -- you will see effort. If someone sees me in yoga pants while I'm at a gas station, tough shit. My purpose for being there has nothing to do with looking attractive anyway.
Preach. People who clutch their pearls when they spot someone in cotton pants while they're obviously just getting milk from the store across the street need to get some perspective.
You can put effort into your appearance without taking a lot of time. If you're a female (assumed based of makeup comment), putting your hair up and throwing on decent jeans, a decent top, and nice tennis shoes looks a lot better than daffy duck PJ bottoms, a hoodie, and cartoon slippers.
The former looks like you're active. The latter just looks lazy.
saracuda ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:14:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do I need to look like anything other than lazy for 10 - 30 minutes in public?
hugehunk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:27:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't. I have no idea what the people in this thread are getting so uptight about what other people do. I (a guy) will wear gym shorts in the middle of winter occasionally if I'm just running in and grabbing something at the store. Should I be putting on nice jeans and throwing my pea coat on? Unbelievable
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I just did this the other day. Wearing my workout shorts and wanted to go grab something from Walmart. It was probably 30 degrees out, freezing as hell and snowing but I was only going to be outside for literally 30 seconds while I walked to, and from, my car.
I completely agree with dressing for yourself when you're going out for longer periods of time, but I don't need to make myself look good for the world if I'm just going to go out for 5 minutes. The world doesn't own my body, and I owe nothing to the random strangers I meet. If I decide to dress up, it's for myself. Everyone else's opinion of me does not matter.
You don't if you don't mind people treating you like you're a lazy slob. How you appear conveys information whether you intend to or not.
saracuda ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've never been treated like a lazy slob at a grocery store or airport when I wear pj's, by the employees or patrons. If you treat people poorly because they look lazy in a temporary environment then you're simply an asshole.
How, exactly, do you treat slobs?
Or in general, how is a slob supposed to be treated? What is the stereotypical treatment of a slob?
I suppose I should have said "viewed as", but there are plenty of ways people treat those who look slovenly different. Do you cheerfully greet the greasy bum? Or do you leave them alone.
The bigger question: why do you disrespect yourself so much to allow others, regardless if they're strangers, to purposefully think negatively of you?
It's akin to purposefully not showering. Convenient, but everyone thinks you smell like a barn animal. Your looks get to write the narrative of what others think of you. You may decide it has no bearing, but you don't know if the person you're sitting next to on a flight is going to later be in your business meeting, or interviewing you for a job.
I lived my entire life with people disrespecting me, so the idea of purposefully conveying to someone a message that I'm a slob seems very backwards.
saracuda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You're putting a lot of stock into a superficial aspect to base a person's entire life off of with a sliver of a moment in a place that doesn't require any specific attire. Comparing pajamas or sweatpants to a someone in rags, dirty, or unhygienic? Please. It is in no way comparable to not showering.
So the fuck what if someone who ends up interviewing you sees you wear sweatpants at the grocery store? What are they going to think, "Oh my god, this well dressed, well spoken, and very qualified person in front of me was wearing sweatpants where others could see them?! Clearly I can't be associated with such filth".
No, doesn't fucking happen. Not unless the job you're interviewing for extends outside of the office, like you're a public figure or something.
When you see a person in their PJ's picking up the onion they forgot for their omellete, maybe just think about the fact that you have no idea what is going in their life at that moment in time and you are in no position to pass judgement - especially off of a singular thing such as what they are wearing.
If they squat down and take a shit in the middle of the aisle, feel free to be like "Oh, that person probably isn't doing so well...", but pajamas? Get over yourself.
Edit: Oh, and for the record, being lazy is not equivalent of being a slob - especially when you're simply being lazy, not a lazy person. Two completely different things and you thinking the two are one and the same is inane.
I'm lazy on Sunday when I decide to not make my bed until after I've had breakfast.
A lazy slob doesn't throw away the pizza that's been left out on the counter for 3 weeks.
Either one of those two people could wear any number of clothing at any given time.
Conversely I think you put too little stock in it. But whatever, to each their own.
saracuda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I guess that's the difference between being an uptight, judgemental person and realistic.
And for FFS, I put too little stock in appearance because I think people should wear whatever they feel like at a grocery store? You have no idea what I think is appropriate for any other location or occasion.
I think you're confusing "looking decent" with "formal wear". No, you don't need to dress up like you would for a wedding to go grocery shopping. But that doesn't mean you should go grocery shopping in lounge wear. Put on a proper pair of pants and shoes. Brush your hair and teeth. If it looks like you just woke up, rolled out of bed, and came in to the store, that's lazy, it looks lazy, and doesn't look like you care. It's immature.
saracuda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:18:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I think you're confusing "trash bag" with "lounge wear".
You're into public for 20 minutes tops. It's OK to be lazy and grab what you need real quick. It's not immature.
Going to the grocery store in lounge wear is perfectly acceptable as long as you aren't dirty, smelly, and all your appropriate bits are convered. You're simply judgemental, which is actually hilariously immature.
hugehunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd argue not having the confidence in yourself to not look your 100% best in public, and worrying what others think about you, is the true sign of immaturity
saracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really think it's completely 100% associated with immaturity, but it's definitely associated with vanity and insecurity - especially projecting it onto others. I guess those qualities are associated with immaturity, now that I think of it.
SoyPopo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if you're not trying to impress then does it really matter?
Yes. Your dress conveys information. You should at least look decent, even if you're not trying to impress people. Otherwise, if you look like a slob, you'll be treated like a slob.
SoyPopo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well maybe I just happen to be lucky with where I live because I can't comfortably wear anything that isn't multiple sizes bigger than necessary and the same goes for a number of people I know. Seems more like dress impacts interactions that you don't make where you don't make an impression based on personality. Unless i'm going for some big company job or whatever.
Your dress is your first impression. It's your first statement to someone. You may be able to win them over later with personality, but why not win them over right away?
And let me be clear here, I'm not talking about always wearing a suit. Just dressing with purpose. Making sure your socks match your pants, your belt and shoes match, wearing a hat if applicable. Showing a little class and style. Instead of just whatever you picked up off your floor that didn't smell.
Jeans and a button down take 10 seconds more than jeans and a tshirt, and present yourself a lot better than the former. Little effort, big result.
You should always care about what you convey to others. It shows the difference between maturity and immaturity. Self-respect and self-esteem versus none.
Fortunately, I have enough self-esteem to know that looking good isn't always the goal. Fortunately, I'm mature enough to have the confidence in knowing that buying tortillas in yoga pants isn't going to ruin my marriage. And fortunately, I'm extremely happy to not give a shit about what I convey to others while I'm in a convenience store, just based on my looks. :)
andersmb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, but as someone who flies a lot, there's few things worse than being uncomfortable in a cramped seat on a long flight. I'm not saying you should be a slob in your PJs, but being that dickhead that's holding up the security line because you have to undo half your outfit before you go through the scanner is not a good look either.
You're joking right? Shops maybe but an airport? I'm about to sit in the same tiny seat for 14 hours and you want me to wear my least comfy pair of trousers so that some randoms in the airport will think I look nice? Fuck that, I'm wearing tracksuit trousers
The only time I dress lazy in public is when I'm flying. I'm all about comfort when I'm flying. Once I get to my destination, I'll change into something nice, but until then, I'll be wearing slippers and lazy pants. (It also makes the security line a lot quicker)
Honestly this is mostly a rural thing. I've lived in small towns and large cities and people always dress better in urban environments for the most part. Yes cities tend to have more rich people but the dress code seems to trickle down to middle class people as well. Small towns only about 20% of the population seem to give a shit about how they dress.
We have the opposite problem in Hollywood. Everyone looks like they're dressed to accept their Oscar when they're just picking up some yogurt and toilet paper. Now I have to pick out a nice outfit and apply full make-up just to walk to the corner store in order to not look homeless. I want to be comfortable damn it!
Grocery stores, airports, and gas stations are the best places to wear jammies.
Especially airports, if I wore a suit or something else fancy on a plane I wouldn't be able to sleep, and then I would get angry about it. Jammies keep me chill.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a quote somewhere on reddit "Dress like your dream partner might see you" or something close to that.
I'm not anal or judgy, and I certainly don't want to go back to the (probably mythical) days when people wore nice coats and hats just to go to the store... and I'm all for casual (I love t-shirts, jeans, and tennis shoes myself), but DAMN!!! I do wish people would put a little thought and care into their appearance before going out in public. Just a minimal basic amount, like hide your butt-crack at least!
Nobody cares what you think though that's the thing. I think you're over thinking it, but you go ahead and do your hair and makeup/shave and dress to buy a soda buddy!
Watching the fucks everyone has to give about their appearance rapidly approach zero going from years 1-4 has been fun too
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, I'm not so crazy about what someone dresses up in as long as it's not ugly as shit, and so long as it's obvious they take care of themselves. If you look like you just don't give a shit all the time then yes, I won't really like being around you. But I'm not going to stop liking someone just because they dress comfortably sometimes, that's a little much to me.
Of course we all have different opinions though, standard Reddit disclaimer.
Men: have you ever thought about the state of your eyebrows? No? They might be fine, but ask a woman you trust if there's room for improvement. A well groomed set of brows can work wonders on almost every face. (Same goes for ladies, but most women I know already give too many shits about too many things, myself included)
zedoktar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:59:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figure as long as I pick off the representatives each side tries to send across the divide before they can unite the kingdoms into the United Brow Empire I look fine.
This is good advice. I got a pair of clippers to cut my hair a while back and they came with an eyebrow trimming attachment that I didn't use at first. When I finally gave it a shot my whole face looked different.
A lot of guys, when they get this advice, they shrug it off because they think their eyebrows are fine, or that no girl wants a guy with womanly eyebrows.
It's not that guybrows should be thin, it's that your eyebrows look are like hockey-tape thick, motherfucker.
Most cases are a simple 'pluck those few offenders that give you a monobrow' anyways. All you need to fix those is a pair of tweezers and ten seconds out of your day.
All the time, but fortunately the one great thing I was born with are naturally perfect eyebrows it seems. Women ask me about them often hah
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm lucky all i gotta do is get rid of a few hairs at the unibrow areas, but a few women ask me if i do my eyebrows because they look really good. nope, guess i got lucky.
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i always get complimented about my eyebrows because hopefully they take away from my homely face
emopest ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:46:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of these tips would be much easier if I wasn't depressed :(
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 20:32:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, most things are easier when you're not depressed.
emopest ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:35:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, like everything else in this thread, a good place to start is taking care of yourself. Try and talk to a professional about it. It's scary and embarrassing, I know, but you will feel better in time.
emopest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do that, but I didn't like my therapist, and it ended in me lying enough to be declared cured. I tried taking it up again, but I couldn't find someone I was comfortable with, but I haven't given up hope yet!
Yay, keep on going! Hope you find someone compatible soon. :)
Somebody downthread suggested excercise and you mentioned you're doing it. Please stick with it. As someone with a father suffering from the more depressive side of BPD, it's done wonders for him. It helps that he used to love sports when he was younger so jogging is tons of fun for him.
The bad part is that he usually drags me along and I loathe excercise. :P But, hey, if it puts him in a better mood..
Sorry I can't give you better advice... I prone to feeling low now and again but I usually cheer myself up by going out somewhere. And that's not depression in the least, so.
I'd be careful about categorically saying no to pills. Ask questions before you take them, sure. But let's avoid giving blind medical advice.
emopest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a nice tip, I might try that, but in some other version than specifically vocal.
Also, thank you! I appreciate it<3
jvalordv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey buddy, as others have said, a little bit can go a long way. As someone who isn't a particularly happy person in general, some things have put me in a really bad place lately. I've found though that in my troughs, focusing on minor bits of self care and being even a little active can go a long way. It's easy to fall into the trap of letting hygiene slip and avoiding going out whenever possible, but it's the little accomplishments that'll add up and if nothing else, you can feel better about yourself for those. Cleaning up your room or doing some exercise may suck, but no one regrets it after, and it's at least a small reason to feel good.
emopest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to do this! Every time I have that little extra bit of energy, I try to use it; cleaning, making proper food and so on. I always try to take a little bit of pride in these "productive days". I've recently started pushing myself to have those days. Deciding to do a certain thing on a certain day and mentally prepare for it for several days. It works, most of the time
I'm gonna be a late-to-the-party, asshole of a female but dear men. A guy who bites the bullet and dresses nice every day (not just sometimes) is going to grab my eye, no matter what kind of butterface you're rocking. I'm not talking slacks and a bowtie every day. All I'm asking is for boxers that don't make you look like you have a fupa (plus your junk looks huge in briefs), well-cut jeans that have a maximum of four pockets and none below the upper thigh, a t-shirt that isn't advertising a company you've never bought from (graphic t's are cute and it makes you look like you have an opinion on... something...), and just... brush your hair. Invest in a pair of not-sneakers.
Ladies, you can love your body at any size, but if you acknowledge your own size instead of pretending you have the body of someone else, you can make other people love your body just the same. There are women out there who rock big & tall. Figure out what looks good on you. Ignore what trends are happening. Don't go down a size so you can pretend you're not that big. It doesn't matter what number is on the inside of that tiny label underneath your clothes. What matters is how damn good you look in them. So if you've got a long torso with short legs, here's a hint from me. You're never gonna look good in high-rise jeans. Dresses that go to just under the knee make you look like a bunch of gnomes standing on each others shoulders. Take the extra time to email customer support to ask if that dress you want from that website is longer than 33" because you and I both know that we own too many "tunics".
Tl;Dr: Men, invest in some briefs and stop wearing sneakers. Women, stop kidding yourselves.
Teeth. Take good care of them. I remember I laughed when I was young and people would use "nice teeth" as one of the qualities they found attractive in someone, but I started to realize how important it was when I paid attention to it. There are some people who are unbelievably attractive, and it all goes to shit when they smile.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 27 and people still think I'm weird for looking for "nice teeth."
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:29:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I could trim my beard, remember to shower more, make more money, lift, run more, drink less, play fewer video games, hike more, sail again, play more music, listen to the right kind of music, be more conversational, get a degree, drive a less shitty car, move out of my parents' house, smile more, think about the words I say before I say them, brush my teeth twice a day, be more interested in reality, treat people better, be funnier, be less weird, be up to date on something people care about, have any interest that is actually interesting, really, etc.
There's a million little things I could do but, at the end of the day, meh.
CloudSA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:04:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suggest getting people to laugh, tell some jokes and be easy going. I'm not going to drop the famous " looks aren't everything" line because being well dressed and groomed does play it's part. In the end be yourself! :)
Uhm.. well being unfunny is a thing. Try to seem interested in what others find funny and like to do. Trying way to hard isn't good, just relax and be you. If people don't like you for you than screw them.
Wear simpler clothing (solid colors, more subtle colors)
Never repeat yourself because you think they didn't hear you, they might have just not wanted to acknowledge it. (unless what you're saying is important, e.g., "your turn is coming up")
Keep your hair clean
Stand up straight
Either say what you want to say like you want everyone around to be able to hear it, or don't say it. i.e., don't mumble, if you're not confident enough to say it, don't.
Don't interrupt someone to tell them some trivia you know about what they're saying. Also don't interrupt people.
Don't fidget. Even if you're uncomfortable, pretend you're comfortable.
I did three things.
I must tell you, I feel acne robbed me of my youth and I had pretty bad acne all the way into my mid 20's. I would also get huge cyst like pimples on my chin, around nose area or cheek every couple of weeks on top of my regular acne.
I really cut down on eating cheese and cut mayonnaise completely from my diet. I found those foods would make me break out. I think it was the oils in them. I would suggest drinking more water as well.
I made sure to use a good skin care regimen daily. Cleanse, tone, moisturize. Dont overdo it, or you will dry out your skin.
I got a prescription for minocycline. I take one pill daily still to this day.
My skin has gotten compliments now, considering I turned 40 and i had lots of scaring from acne, I almost cried tears of joy when someone said i had beautiful skin.
Lately I have been using coconut oil as a moisturizer and then I will wash off and apply a light moisturizer when I leave home.
Maybe these will work for you. I hope they do. It changed my life. If i can save you even a day from a having a bad breakout, I will be happy. Best wishes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:26 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks so much. I'll try this stuff- I've been afraid to try moisturizers, especially oil-based ones, because I thought they might make me break out more.
Actually I thought the same thing. But I found out that Coconut oil was antibacterial.
Lots of people say food doesn't trigger breakouts, but as soon as I cut out melted cheese and mayo from my diet, things became better really quick.
I must say that the minocycline was perfect for me. It changed my life. I only wish I tried it earlier. I was emotionally destroyed in college from my acne.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:57 on January 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Minocycline is an antibiotic, isn't it? Have you had any negative effects from being on antibiotics for so long?
I've been off and on it for the last 6 years. It's been an effective backup. I am blemish free since starting with minocycline at 34. Absolutely no zits at all. No side effects i can think of. I was told i should supplement with some probiotics but havent done that yet. good luck.
Ask people open-ended questions about themselves. What are your dreams? How do you spend your weekends? Where would you love to travel? How did you get into your career? Etc. (Actually listening and asking follow up questions is a plus.)
I once had a date that I thought it went really well, and it made me rate the average-ish girl very favourably -- until I realized I didn't know anything about her. She just kept asking me questions and letting me talk about myself. lol
kccogirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To add, ask GOOD questions. I hate the "describe your personality in 5 words" type questions. Those won't help you get to know me at all.
The important part is to not pick your nose and wash yourself in the morning. Do either one or the other, not both. In my experience, a pick, pick, pick, wash rotation over four days works best.
I think the truly important take-away here is that potential mates will be looking for those with more boogers. Therefore, wash yourself every morning, but keep that schnoz au natural
Or try everything with a detached air of superiority(roll your eyes and "pfft..."constantly), that'll mean you're too important to give a shit about what you're doing, let along doing it correctly.
You don't even have to wear nice clothes, just ones that are clean, ironed out, put on neatly and that fit well. That and how you carry yourself can go a long way.
Only use words of passion when you are actually passionate about something.
Throwing words like love, hate, loath, phenomenal, etc., when you dont actually feel that way about something makes it look like you don't mean what you say or say what you mean.
Also, show yourself some love. Im not the most confident person, but i notice i get more positive feedback from people on days where I've given myself attention, done things to make me happy, and given myself compliments. Don't take it as conceit, but just an acknowledgment of your self worth.
rimnii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
surprised how low this is. It was my first thought. Not a lot of kids make eye contact and recently I started doing my share. Now I've realized how many people don't make eye contact and how much I judge them. It's super important, except for occasionally when you're broing out
Smile. A simple trick someone told me, train your brain to equate smiling with doors. Every time you walk through a door, take it as a cue to smile. Walking into the office? Smile. Walking into a bar? Smile. And not a quick smile, smile the whole time. It doesn't have to be a big cheesy smile - just pull the cheeks back a bit. Don't worry about showing teeth. You just want to appear happy. It's amazing how much this changes how everyone else interacts with you.
kccogirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to try this. I have severe bitchy resting face. To the point that people are constantly commenting on it (which ends up just pissing me off)
I'm a soda merch. I walk through a lot of doors throughout my day. I think it could make a good habit to break me of my angry face
i like minimal makeup. when im making out with a caked up girl - her make up gets everywhere (face, clothes, etc) and then i start looking like a pretty motha fucka with powdered lips and i just aint bout that life!
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:16:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you see someone - anyone - pretend that this person is destined to become the best friend you'll have in this lifetime, and that you've been given the gift to go back in time and live that first meeting all over again. Everything will change in you: your posture changes, your face lights up, your energy changes, you become warm and calm and open. And people respond to you in the most remarkable ways. I have a lifetime of strangers telling me their deepest dreams within 15 minutes of meeting them. And have been asked out on more dates than I could ever count.
This is a rare gift, of course -- people letting you into their deepest selves -- so there is a responsibility here, as well. Be sure to keep dignity, humility and respect close at hand.
And I don't. Being genuine is one thing. Pretending that a person is destined to become your best friend and acting accordingly would, in my opinion, come across as creepy and weird - too much, too soon kind of thing. To say that it makes people tell you their deepest dreams in 15 minutes is bizarre. It negates social distance and expectations. Maybe it's a not British thing but I definitely feel it's creepy, and the last line doesn't alleviate the odd factor.
Thanks for the nice slam on my social skills. Much appreciated. Not.
As a woman, this doesn't come across to me as nice, warm, or genuine. It comes across as disingenuous, creepy, too much too soon kind of effect. It would set up alarm bells ringing because this is the same tactic used by car sales men and over aggressive men who don't want to take no for an answer. Charm and harm.
Of course context matters. If you pulled this in a nice restaurant or in a club, maybe it wouldn't seem so bad. If you pulled it on a train or on the street? Insta-klaxon time. Just because it has personally worked for you in the times you have done it, doesn't mean other people can't find it creepy or overly personal.
Again, you missed a few things. I come off as nice, warm and genuine all the time. And no, I don't strike up conversation with random people on public transportation. Who does that? Regardless of who you are, those situations are the ones with the highest chance of getting shut down.
This advice isn't to get into a woman's pants. It's to build rapport with people. It's a good mentality to instill, but as with everything needs to be tinkered with to fit your personality and tailored to each audience.
Yes, sometimes you veer in the wrong direction and can give off this impression. It could be you just didn't connect, or the person your speaking with is not in the mood to be swayed. Regardless, all you have to do is smile and say something to the effect: "Did you know I am in a really good mood today?"
People eat that shit up. They want to be happy for you and they will share your positivity.
Not being so whiny. It's a huge turn off to anybody with a brain and a lot of people do it. Plus, not bitching about everything may help give you a better outlook on life in general.
Buried, but still worth saying. Don't be self deprecating. I know this is along the lines of not being negative, but it's so important it deserves its own mention. Once in a while being self deprecating in a joking way is fine, but doing it in front of people in a serious way is never attractive. I knew a girl in school who once said to me in a very sincere way "I know I'm ugly". The truth is she's not great looking, probably less than average. However by saying it out loud and with terribly insecure body language she made herself so much less attractive. Now, self awareness is good, and in some ways can be attractive. But when you say things about yourself that clearly project a sense of insecurity in your "shortcomings", it just comes off so badly. Be aware of your faults, but don't focus on them with other people unless those people are there to help you improve yourself.
I read an article about this, years ago. The point of the article was that where someone might once have been able to glance over a flaw, they quickly became unable to focus on anything BUT the flaw when the insecure person pointed it out.
Shower. Brush your teeth. Eat less. Comb your hair. Work out a little. This isn't rocket appliances
mytwin_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:56:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
who is gene and why are so many people in this thread greeting him
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:58:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eye contact, and good breath
Roastage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take the time to learn about Cologne/Perfume and find a good quality fragrance that suits your age and the setting.
People seriously underestimate the overall effect of smelling nice to the opposite sex. If you smell fantastic you are instantly more pleasant to be around. The sense of smell is connected with the Limbic System which is also associated with memory, mood and emotion.
You know that sweater you love, but it looks like a sack of potatoes on you? Find a tailor that does alterations in your town, and bring them the sweater. Have them tailor it to your body. Once you see how inexpensive it is to do this kind of thing, you'll start doing it all the time. And you'll start to look fantastic.
It will depend on the weave of the sweater. If the sweater is woven together all as one piece, probably not. But if the sweater is of a tight knit with sewn seams? Definitely. I'm wearing one right now! When I turn it inside out, I can see where the tailor did their work. And it was super simple, too. They just had me stand there with the sweater on, and used a piece of chalk to mark where I wanted it to come in, and the general shape I wanted. I picked it up a day later.
I think I've been pleasantly surprised with the advice in this thread. For the most party people are giving solid advice that will not only make you feel and look more attractive, but also will improve your health and general well being.
Fix your posture.
Smile at everyone.
Dress as well as you can.
Stop swearing.
Stop biting your nails.
Quit smoking.
StarBirb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:24:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile - this to me is the biggest thing. If you walk around glaring or looking bored, you upset or intimidate people. I'm bad at this - RBF big time :( And I see it in other people, too. A smile right away or in response to someone walking by makes all the difference; like, yes, you may not have the best nose, or great makeup, or stylish clothes, but you're a happy person who's fun to be around. You're friendly.
Clean fitted clothes. You don't have to be "hipster tight" with those jeans but just fitted! It goes a super long way!
-Old worn shoes have their place, I love my old boots, but clean maintained shoes, like a casual Adidas or Nike make a good impression.
-Clean back neck. Trim that hair! Most barbers will do it for you for free in between cuts!
-A little starch when you iron your shirt makes a big difference.
-Stand up straight. This takes a lot of practice and habit...but you don't have to change over night...a little adjustment everyday makes a difference.
-Smile more
-maintain more eye contact
-The best thing that trumps all of this...believe you are attractive. Fuck it lie to yourself, tell yourself you are attractive...because if you believe the opposite, that you're not attractive, well that's a lie too...but the former is going to benefit you and the people in you're life more.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Done
SharkEel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:24 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah, I am 5X more confident when high. I just live in the moment and feel happy whereas when im sober I feel all depressed and bored with everything
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:15:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh no
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:05:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone says confidence is attractive, and coke makes you really confident...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:01:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just convince yourself that being attractive won't make you happier, in the same way the 99% convince themselves that money can't buy happiness. That way you just have to sit back and relax.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:27:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These obvious steps- in HS I was the ultimate pud but as an adult I feel I've come into my own.
Develop hobbies that interest you and pursue them. I recommend creative (art,) academic (astronomy, language, etc), physical (hiking, sports, skiing, etc,) and/or a trade (mechanic, woodworking, etc.) Notice I left out video games and TV/Netflix!
Take a shower regularly but careful with your hair. I'm a guy and constantly shampooed my hair when I was younger. It would be huge and hard to handle. As an adult I wash my hair about every 3 weeks and when I do I put a little Bedhead wax stick in it to mellow it out.
Be relatively fit. We all have different body types but that's no excuse to not get out and be active. It will literally make you breath quieter and speak easier. I know- I've been there.
And a big one- be a good listener is very important be but make sure to be an active listener. Ask questions that dig into the details of folks stories and opinions. It's the most flattering thing for us humans to be shown interest in what we're saying.
This is an incomplete list but I think these things will go a long way.
Every 3 weeks?! I have to wash mine every day or it gets greasy. I've heard that it stops getting greasy if you stop washing every day, but I can't get out of this habit because it's greasy the next day.
Try dry shampoo to hold you over on no-wash days. Absorbs excess oil from hair without striping your scalp and triggering oil production.
DrSuviel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:29:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Things I've [26/M] done to make myself more attractive:
Dress better/more interestingly (can be done with thrift-store finds)
Grow facial hair and learn how to groom it properly (find a good-smelling beard oil)
Get chiropractic care and otherwise improve posture (I have a spine condition so this makes a lot of difference)
Pursue higher education (PhD student)
Learn to cook/bake a few things that are kind of interesting or at least fun (if you're a terrible cook, get a good rotary waffle maker; chocolate-chip waffles with whipped cream and strawberries for dinner was received well)
Take time to volunteer (I go to the local animal shelter)
Own a house (my house is also an investment property)
Have cute pets (I think dogs work a little better than cats but I have one of each)
Cultivate other hobbies/skills that might come in handy or would at least come across as impressive
No matter how good you look, personality trumps it.
Have a fun personality, know how to talk to people.
Remember how you talk to specific people because you can't one day be all happy and funny to a specific interest and then the next act all awkward and shy. You're inconsistent and it confuses them most likely.
Try and have your own car. It's okay that you live with your parents...for now. But for the love of God at least have your own car if you want to be seen as an adult or at least independent.
I only say all of this because I'm living all these mistakes right now.
How you look is an extension of your personality. If you dress confidently and groom confidently, you look confident, and therefore you will feel more confident.
And have a car or at least access to one (e.g. if you don't own one because you live in a city with decent transit and don't need one most of the time, a zip car or a credit card you use for a rental is a good option). When I lived in the inner city area and owning a car wasn't an option, I always maintained a relationship with a local rental car counter. Needed a car for a hot date, it was nothing to call up and get a modest car.
If you're a woman, tilt your head forward slightly. If you're a man, tilt it back slightly. Tilting your head forward makes you look more feminine, and back makes you look more masculine.
15700325 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tilting my head forward feels strange, I've always tended to tilt it up/back more often than not.
Be generous with other people:
Be interested in people and ask questions to get to know them,
be generous with your laughter, don't just try to be the only funny one telling all the jokes. Invite people to enjoy food & experiences with you, compliment people genuinely & show appreciation for them. Making people feel welcome and valued is an attractive quality.
I've sent that TED Talk about posture to a colleague. He sits with his head in front on his body and looks down when he walks. It not only helps you look more confident, it makes you feel more confident. It's a feedback loop.
Your head is your crown. It belongs on top of your body.
alex3omg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy better shampoo and conditioner. If you buy two in one 2$ shit and you think your hair is greasy and boring well guess why? Go spend $50 on some real salon stuff and use it correctly. Leave the conditioner in for a few minutes while you remove unwanted body hair or wash your butt or whatever. Then after your hair is dried, brush it for a minute with a real bristle comb to get your grease distributed and break up lumps.
People with bad skin and hair can usually do something about it. Moisturising is a big step. They think they're too greasy but the oil comes from being too dry. Moisturise your skin and hair to combat grease. Wash your face with cleanser and toner first, for added benefit.
And do your eyebrows, clean up your nails and cuticles (watch a video on how to do a manicure.)
Really it's like an extra 10 minutes a day and you'll look so much better. Also floss, wear deodorant, put on lip balm if they're dry, etc. Maybe go to a nicer place for a haircut sometime and see if you look better.
Looking good is time/money as much as natural beauty. People who think they are ugly are probably just frumpy.
From someone who used to be clueless here's some easy tips:
-workout: it really does make a difference. Lose some weight and eating healthy will make you feel better and be more confident
-get a GOOD haircut. Look up photos of actors or models and bring it in. You might feel lost at first but you'll get used to what makes a haircut GOOD and what hair you like.
-dress well. /r/malefashionadvice is good, especially for beginners. At first you'll think it's a place that will tell you what to wear, but after a while you can get your own eye for fashion and know what you specifically like and then you can break the rules there. It's kinda like training wheels and is still an awesome sub to visit and post to because they still have great items they talk about.
-be confident. This one is the hardest, but honestly just remember that everyone is in the end just a person like you and like you they just want to make friends and have relationships through life. Some people you will not have that magical "click" with, and that is okay. Others you will and it will be amazing. If someone is ever rude to you for politely showing interest in them, don't let it hold you back! That really is their problem and you are in the right. That person is just being rude (keyword, POLITELY showing interest).
HydeMD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut your finger nails!
zirtbow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men wearing ties, learn where a tie bar goes. For fuck sake I always see them near belly buttons and it looks idiotic.
Between the 3rd and 4th buttons from the top button (basically near the base of the sternum), and a width equal to or less than, but not less than 2/3 of the width of the tie.
Makes a world of difference.
89kbye ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't sit at home all the time. Even if you're broke.
There are a shit ton of things to do for free even when its cold out! Go somewhere, do something.
I think that beards are the great equalizer. If you are handsome a beard hides your handsomeness and you become less so, but this can be helpful if you are ugly.
Haircut- Go to barbers, look at some photos of styles you like. Take one to barber.
Clothes- Buy some nice ones every now and again. Take a friend that you think dresses well, or knows what looks good on you. (I had a female friend that forced me to buy some clothes I now love)
Better Posture. Walk tall. It'll make you look more assertive, and will improve your figure.
Be confident- The best thing I ever did, when I 'learned' to talk to girls was to Not aim to flirt. If you're interested and they are too, it'll happen. Just treat them like a friend when you first meet and you're away.
Hygiene. Especially brushing and flossing daily. Having pearly whites won't always get you the girl, but having rotten teeth will definitely not get you the girl.
As a guy, I see so many dudes that could be good looking or at least somewhat attractive if they just had the right haircut. So many guys just do nothing with their hair, hair is a big thing that changes how your face looks to other people.
Basic grooming can go a long way, sort out your eyebrows, keep facial hair in check, groom your body.
In terms of clothes, doesn't matter what body shape you are or how little or more money you have, the main thing you should look for in clothes is fit. Make sure trousers and jeans aren't too baggy or tight, make sure you pick up the right leg length. Keep shirts tailored and for ties, go for a skinny tie as its short width will give the illusion that you are more slim. Similarly, make sure suits are tailored, it usually isnt too expensive and you will look put together easily.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of guys would rather have stubble between their eyebrows using a razor than just plucking them, that and a quick tidy of stay hairs, thats all men need to do.
Brush your damn teeth! Teeth are such a HUGE deal breaker and if you don't take care of them it tells a lot about who you are as a person I mean come one. At least twice a day, seriously just brush them!
Blues67 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pay for a decent haircut. If your mom cuts your hair, find a good barber. If you get your hair done at the mall, find a good salon. We spend so much time paying everyone else, yet forget to pay ourselves. Spend the money to look good.
I feel like a lot of guys don't realize that looking harsh and raggy doesn't generally draw in women. Well moisturized faces, using a lip product regularly, decent hair, etc. can go a long way.
I'll bite on this one. Dudes, wear clothes that fit! Throw away any cargo shorts unless you're saving them for a hike or are active military. Also, the ones that go passed your knee caps. Throw those away too. Unless you're 12. Shave your neck . ( that seems to a joke here on Reddit but it's true.) Don't be afraid to wear brighter colors. Find some nice cologne . Don't bathe in it. Keep your goddamn fingernails clean. Wash your face. Use a little baking and soda peroxide and whiten up those teeth. Quit smoking. Drink tons of water. And most importantly . ...more important than all the other suggestions here combined. Don't be an asshole. That includes the internet.
Always treat people as though you are genuinely happy to see them. If you act subtly thankful to be near others without being needy or weird, people will be attracted to you
Foo-ed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A girl once told me that all she looked for in a guy was someone who smelled nice and made her laugh.
So good hygiene and a sense of humour can never go wrong!
GVapers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a better person.
cam2623 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SHAVE THE NECKBEARD!!!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyebrows. Make sure your eyebrows are always kept. Male or female, makes a HUGE Difference in overall neatness. Also basic hygiene, losing weight, staying hydrated, eating healthy. All make you more attractive. Being dehydrated makes your skin look bad, losing weight and eating healthy will help you reduce inflammation and fat in your face that will accentuate your jaw line and bone structure.
MGoAzul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wear clothes that fit. Not stuff that is too baggy or too tight
Take smaller bites of food. You won't make as much mawing noise as you chew, and you won't look like a pig stuffing its face. Puffed up cheeks full of food and a jaw working to slosh it all around is pretty gross and tends to cause a lot of slurping and licking sounds even if your lips are closed.
Same with drinking. Take smaller pulls from a bottle so you don't make the hard glunking gulp sound.
I think that fingernails are often overlooked by individuals trying to improve their appearance, especially men. When I look at guys' hands who obviously chew their fingernails, I immediately judge.
Jokkerb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't lean on sarcasm as your main source of humor, try to be positive sometimes. Make people work to discover your black fatalistic view of the world instead of broadcasting it, nobody likes a downer Debbie.
mepegan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:27:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand in front of a mirror and practice smiling. See which smiles are more flattering to you. Also smile with your eyes. people can tell when someone is faking a laugh or smile depending on eye contact. The eyes chico they never lie.
Super late to the thread but I recently realized how much better it looks when people tweeze stray eyebrow hairs. It looks so much cleaner. Here's a picture I drew for reference
Number 2: do it on purpose. Whatever you're doing with your hair and clothing, do it on purpose and it'll look way better.
Number 3: fucking own it. It's just more of the last, whatever you're doing on purpose own that shit. confidence is sexy and if you're doing all 3 of these in succession, #3 is gona slay the puy or dk, whichever you're trying to slay.
Number 4: Take all 3 of these and apply it to every day life. Like have a fucking life and do it on purpose. Even if you're doing laundry at the laundromat, if you've showered, gotten dressed on purpose, and are fucking owning that laundry, you're gona' look sexy folding that shit.
I think this is the best one on here... I want to look sexy folding that shit too!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:05:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be polite
arby84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:07:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Compliment people. Let them know you appreciate them. People remember when you make them feel good about themselves. And they see you in a more positive light. But be genuine about it.
8) Take care of any skin disorders by visiting a dermatologist
9) Britten your teeth
10) Smile more
11) Laugh more
12) Use less curse words and "ums" in your speech
mrpeppr1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:46:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are all starting to look the same, so I'll add in mine- get enough sleep.
I used to think I was hot shit because I could function on 2 hours a day for months at a time, but really I was just meeting the bare requirements.
I was a husk of person simply with little personality. Everything I did took longer or was harder. I thought I was just a boring and introverted person for all of middle school and HS because of this.
It turns out I need a minimum of 8 hours or I just can't socialize and feel like shit in general.
Nothing to be ashamed of, though, I'm a much happier and interesting now.
ndymn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't use that Swedish app the rates your attractiveness based on an algorithm.
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or creepy weirdness. Take it from an introvert, smiling didn't help but being interested in others and expressing that clearly and without pretense really helped.
Jsreb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. I will elaborate by saying a smile backed with confidence is an attractive quality. I stand by that.
Safromra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear sunscreen every day! To prevent visible sun damage (wrinkles, hyper pigmentation) as well as prevent skin cancer
kpatable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
biff421 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:45:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bro, fucking stand up straight
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:53:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women, wear sensible shoes out on a night out.
When a bloke sees you're clearly in pain stood in those shoes, and possibly even walking home bare foot with your shoes in hand he's just thinking "Mate, she's a fucking nightmate, no chance"
Wear red. I used to never wear red, then heard it as a tip, so figured why not, and bought a red t-shirt.
The next day, a friend walks up to me and says, "ifCreepyImJoking, you look healthier and more handsome today." Those exact words.
Also, if you're a guy with a parting, brush left to right. Superman brushes left to right, Clark Kent right to left. No idea why it works, but I started getting compliments after that too.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:04:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put magnets in your pockets....
What? You never said what you were trying to attract.
d65vid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:34:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like they're speaking another language. El Niรฑo thread, jackets right? Wrong. Everyone unilaterally agrees you wear a Patagonia pateshell or something.
Their obsession with high end technical clothing bothers me.
There are people who need clothing like this because they are in extreme weather, or are concerned about the mass of their clothing, or need multi-functionality to keep pack volume small etc.
The vast majority of the people in MFA will wear their $700 hard shell to the grocery store after driving there in their heated car and will pull out an umbrella to keep their fancy leather shoes clean.
Now, I own high end technical clothing, but I buy it because the cheap stuff has failed me on expeditions or trips in the past, not because I like to show off a brand.
Zardif ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Patagonia is a brand. A shell refers to a jacket usually hard or soft to denote uses. Typically hard shells are water and wind proof and soft shells aren't.
I'd consider the terms "hard shell" and "soft shell" pretty loosely defined terms. If you have a rain jacket or anorak or something and you wear a light sweater underneath, you are essentially wearing a hard and soft shell. The one linked is pretty damn serious, but the term "hard shell" doesn't have to mean "Gore-tex Himalayan mountaineer jacket".
Hm I guess I hadn't realized it was that clearly defined. Can you link me the definitions? I worked in a technical clothing store for a few years and we used those terms pretty loosely. (I didn't sell clothing, only hard goods so I only got it second hand)
Either way I think it's fair to define it loosely for the general public. I personally believe layering is always justified so wearing a water proof non insulated outer layer over top of an insulating inner layer is my advice to people. Whether that fits the definitions or not it should suit most to "survive" El Nino.
That is the great thing about layered systems. I can choose what kind of shell I need for the conditions. Hell, if I am in rough terrain I sometimes throw a soft shell over the hard shell because replacing the soft shell is far cheaper than fixing the hard one.
A full day of rain would be considered extreme. I will take the hard shell if I expect more than a few hours of rain.
Skiing, eh, I have done multi-day trips in a soft shell. It all depends on the conditions. If there is not a lot of precip the breathability of the soft shell makes things more comfortable. If it is snowing hard enough for me to need a hard shell, the chances are I am not doing much downhill. If I were on a tour I would take the hard shell though.
If I'm skiing, I've driven or more likely flown to get there so I'm skiing no matter what. It's at least as much about wind as precip.
Also, you can get a decent REI gore-tex for cheaper than a Marmot/Arcteryx hard-shell so it's not really more expensive unless you insist on specific brands.
REI / MEC stuff can be pretty great. I have a lot of MEC branded stuff.
But lets be honest, the higher end stuff is objectively better if you can afford it.
I went from a decent MEC hard shell to an Arcteryx Alpha SV (that I picked up used) the difference in comfort and fit is very noticeable. I wouldn't buy one new though, I can't justify an $800 jacket.
It's more useful if you get your basics from something like Target and find your own style. For instance, I recently got a pair Redwing Beckmans (factory seconds and the most comfortable pair of shoes I own) for $200 where they retail for $350-$400. Two years ago I wouldn't have thought about buying such an expensive pair of shoes, but now that I have my own style and aesthetic to achieve it's much more reasonable to buy a pair of boots that'll last 5-10 years at worst. They're also useful for me as a slow day at work has me walking three miles at least and occasionally kicking a projector screen into place. My point is that buying something simply because it's on sale will often lead to a closet filled with clothing only worn a few times and then hung up to dry.
zudomo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"My point is that buying something simply because it's on sale will often lead to a closet filled with clothing only worn a few times and then hung up to dry"
This is an assumption. The sub isn't "come buy things that are cheap", it's "Here are some sales, buy it if you want/need it"
And who does it hurt by just putting sales on there?
No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. That's left up to the individual on what they need/want.
Also I disagree with staples from Walmart or Target unless it's socks, undershirts, boxers.
Uniqlo is a much better choice for staples. They fit better and it's relatively cheap.
Considering this is a thread targeted at beginners in the fashion world, I stand by my point. If you take a guy who's worn nothing but ill fitting tee shirts and jeans his whole life then just buying stuff out of the blue won't do him any good. Target actually has some decent button downs and pants while the Uniqlos fit has been re-written for Americans. In other words, they've made it a more standard fit that isn't nearly as good looking as it was in the past. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the sub or its community, but you really need to have your own style before you can justify spending top dollar on a shirt simply because it's on sale. Also I never said that posting sales was a bad thing, it just goes back to my original point of actually having a style.
zudomo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
EDIT: I started doing this about 6 months ago. I used r/malefashionadvice to get ideas of how to look good and lurked r/frugalmalefashion to see what things could cost and if things would be on sale frequently. Now when I go on r/frugalmalefashion, I know if it's actually a deal, whether it's something that has regular sales.
ROO3D ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:23:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Such a bad subreddit, frugal doesn't mean "On sale" it mean "Shit I can't spend a lot of money on fancy stuff"
New_Acts ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:57:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're against the subreddit because of the name? Thats a little ridiculous.
frugal doesn't mean "On sale" it mean "Shit I can't spend a lot of money on fancy stuff"
And when the fancy stuff goes on sale, it becomes reasonable to buy..
I've subbed to that sub for awhile. its not all "this $600 pair of shoes is 20% off". People post downright dirt cheap stuff. UNIQLO is posted there on a regular basis because its cheap decent looking clothes.
I've gotten heads up on sales with coupon codes that stack to get 70-80% off before. Thats frugal
zudomo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a lot of reasonable things on there. A lot of pants for like $18 bucks, shirts discounted to $40. Sure some is still ridiculously high but for the most part it's decent prices. You gotta spend some money on things. The only thing I see really exorbitant are shoes and jackets but those things are costly. Have you even visited the sub?
ROO3D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I have, I just don't sub to it, the times I have been there that's really all I've seen, could just be coincidence but I've mainly just see extremely bs deals
Nope, never going there again. I tried, the flying spaghetti monster knows I tried, but no matter what it was, they were just speaking about shit that had no relevance to what would actually help me.
Dressing fashionably takes a real committment, and a steady supply of money. I prefer buying quality that lasts, but is rarely fashionable.
I don't like playing male peacock. In fact, I like to go the other way. I have a nice German car, but what I drive every day is a beat-up old Jeep .
No, I don't date much. :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I frequent that sub when interested in buying new clothes.
For the people saying that they don't recognize brands/clothing names: Usually people provide links where you can buy the item mentioned. Or do a simple google search on a brand or article of clothing you don't recognize and it will open your eyes to some new styles and options.
People really hate it when I say this (especially women and I am a woman) but have long hair, if you're a woman wanting to attract men. I don't mean like down to your butt crack, but women look a million times more sexually appealing and physically attractive to MOST men with hair longer than shoulders (personally I still feel a bit sexless with shoulder length hair and I feel best with it at mid-back). I know some celebrities look gorgeous with short hair and everyone knows at least one guy who loves short hair, but if you're talking about the general population, the vast majority of guys prefer it long and the vast majority of women look better with it long. Some women seem to be considered really attractive just by having long hair and being not-fat when they're actually fairly average. If you can grow your hair, it's really quite an easy way to appear better looking without doing anything major or invasive.
I would simplify that as have hair that is appropriate to you. Some women can really rock the short hair without looking butch. Some women can do shoulder length hair, some women can do longer... but it's not universal.
My wife for example looks really good with long hair, below her shoulder. She would not look good with short hair. But I work with a woman who looks stunning with short cropped hair... if she grew it out, it wouldn't work.
So is everything, then. A lot of people on this thread say that getting in shape makes you more attractive, but there are people out there who love fat bodies too. I'm just talking about appealing to the widest amount of people and on average most men prefer longer hair (not all, of course)
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!! I love a woman with short hair. To me it shows confidence. Just my thing though.
To add to that, as a man, if I grew my hair out to the extent /u/anxiousgirl89 described, I would look like a fucking pedophile. No one likes a balding man with long hair. I keep a shaved head with a well trimmed beard. No problems in the dating department with regards to my hair length.
Different strokes. I find a fine featured, expressive face with short hair to be incredibly attractive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know... I cut my long hair to shoulder length hair and now random people stop me on the street to tell me they think I'm pretty. I'm considering never growing it back out again. It was very unexpected result of cutting my hair.
Keep in mind that this is the average. In the same way that some women SUPER love bald men (but most are indifferent/against baldness) some guys are SUPER into short haired women. Do your own style, but change it up if you aren't getting your desired results.
Yeah, same here plus I don't think my hair can even grow that long. By long I mean below shoulders.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly the reason people hate it when you say this is because you're expecting someone to make a drastic, continuous change to their everyday appearance solely for your viewing pleasure. That's being an asshole. Hair has to suit the person whose head it's on every day before it suits your boner.
I don't care what people do with their hair and I'm not attracted to women so I don't "expect" anything (nor would I even if I dated women). I was answering a question about what you can do to make yourself seem more attractive and then giving a suggestion lol. I suppose I should have said "nothing! Everyone is equally attractive and no preference is more common than another!"
ETA: my boner? Lol. I have a vagina.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
everyone knows at least one guy who loves short hair
I am this guy. There's definitely a general preference towards longer hair but I think that you should just roll with what you like the most.
As much as I love short hair I will say that it doesn't suit everybody. (Though the vast majority of the time I see a short haired reasonably in-shape woman I think that it suits her.) Long hair, on the other hand, is perhaps a more safe option. I've never seen a woman and thought "long hair doesn't suit her".
You might be a little less attractive to the general male population with short hair but there will be those guys who are super into it (provided that you're otherwise attractive.)
It's not possible for most women, and also on most hair types it turns into a cascade of really thin split ends and stuff. My husband thinks it's gross.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn how to groom yourself as a man. A well groomed man will stand out in the average crowd. Most men don't groom themselves well and you always notice one that is. Learn how to wear your hair, what hair products to use, cut your hair, trim your beard or shave properly. If you don't have a set of trimmers, combs, and hair products lining your bathroom you need to think.
Lose weight. Pretty much everybody looks better slimmer, unless they're dangerously close to (or already) underweight. Makes a huge difference to go from overweight to slim, even to your face. You could have nice features and you could never know if your face is pudgy because that throws them out of whack and blurs your bone structure.
DSV686 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any advice for this? I have changed my diet drastically to eat healthier, smaller portions, I work out a few times a week, and yet I have been the same weight for 2 years (changed my diet and exercise routine around 4 months ago), with only minor variances.
Without wanting to offend you, that's not really physically possible. If you had reduced the amount of calories you eat, you would have lost weight, there's no way your body can work around that. Chances are you're eating more than you think - almost everybody does. Give My Fitness Pal a shot, it's free and lets you track calories...you'll probably be surprised at how much you're underestimating your eating.
All you have to do is count calories. You weigh 200 lbs? OK you'll burn 2000 calories by staying in bed all day. Be mindful of you intake vs. your use.
Learn about how many calories get burned above that baseline if you exercise. It's not really all that much to be honest unless you're really working out hard. You have to be mindful of intake. And ALL intake. That soda from 7-11? Yeah it might be over 1000 calories depending on the size.
It's thermodynamics. You take in less than you burn, then you lose fat. Working out is great too to transform your body because you will build muscle while you lose fat. But you will lose weight either way if you just count calories and realize that you don't need more than you burn if you're not near death from starvation.
Drink lots of water. It fools your stomach into making you feel less hungry because it thinks that you're full because of volume. Plus water is soooooo good for your body in so many other ways. And it makes you more attractive because of that.
Comb your hair and brush your teeth! Simple grooming that everyone should do to look and feel healthier. Healthy people automatically look more attractive to me.
356afan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit whining.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I make eye contact with everyone I pass on the street, even with women who are with their bf/husbands, confidence is attractive.
bpr2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:26:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how I met my last g/f. Made eye contact with her and smiled. Her b/f didn't like that much and fought with me. The victor got the spoils. Hehe. It didn't last long though, she and I were good together, but she smoked and I couldn't get past that and she wasn't able to quit, she tried, but she just couldn't kick it. I bumped into her lately and she's still smoking and with a total nob head that also smokes. Oh well.
DONT SLOUCH WHILE WALKING! Keep that back straight as well, and don't look down! Look like you know where you're going and you have somewhere to go.
This made a hell of a difference for me, being 5'4", it sucks, but at least I feel more confident when I look confident even down to walking.
GMmichel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cultivate decisiveness.
Obviously you should also remain open to and respectful of other suggestions, but knowing what you want can be really attractive. Itโs a demonstrable way of displaying confidence, and therefore probably more useful than simply trying to โbe confidentโ (whatever that means).
I take "be confident" to mean "don't be un-confident". Don't hide in the corner, speak up, stand up straight, voice your opinions, don't talk negatively to yourself/put yourself down in front of others, etc.
I see a lot of people that go strait for the dudebro attitude because they think that's what confidence looks like, but its more about not doing the little things that make it obvious you aren't confident.
If you're worried about fucking it up, head to a local salon that does it. They see men all the time, and won't think it's weird at all. Plus they'll be able to help you get a good shape that you can then upkeep at home.
As a male, there are a lot of small things you can do to improve yourself.
Good haircut, preferably that you feel comfortable in and that it suits you. Use good hair products and already you have improved.
Clothes, not everyone is fortunate enough to buy expensive clothes but that doesn't mean you can't have a sick style on a budget. Stores like Marshalls/Winners are my favorite since they have the semi-designer brands for a decent price. Pair of diesel jeans that cost over $300? Will cost under $100 at a store like winners. And having a sick outfit doesn't mean it has to be flashy/loud. A good fitted pair of light jeans with a slim fit t-shirt and some white sneakers looks good on anyone.
Hygiene. I find this one to be the hardest to follow every day but it's certainly the most rewarding. Use the recommended shampoo/conditioner. Wash your face frequently and apply moisturizer. Obviously brush your teeth/floss. I would recommend the whitening toothpaste as it will whiten your teeth slowly over time without damaging your gums like those whitening kits.
Play sports/gym. Self explanatory.
issius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. Walk like you aren't a retarded puppet.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop being lazy at work. It's hot as fuck when people work hard and give a shit even if it's not a kegger.
If you look tired all the time try using some brightener under your eyes. It's a great little makeup trick that anyone can use. It makes light reflect up to your eyes more and makes you look less tired.
I use Bare Minerals Stroke of Light. I used it on my male costars in a movie and it really looks great and natural on everyone. I like Bare Minerals because I'm allergic to many things and I've never had a reaction to this product.
Table manners. Chew with your mouth CLOSED, don't openly burp, and if you do, say excuse me. Don't slurp anything, ever! Don't let food hang out of your mouth while you chew. You can be the most attractive person on the planet, but if you don't have basic table manners, you're just as bad as Minions...
SteeleK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nrjk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise and eat right.
Exercise is free and frozen vegetables are cheaper than burgers. So, you save money and feel better. The more you do it, the more external validation you get which makes you want to do it more.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Basic hygiene. Shower every day, brush your teeth, use deodorant, wash your hair. Too many people fail at those basic things. To look even better- style your hair and choose clothes that make you look good. Try things on before you buy them. Get a full-length mirror and look at how you and your outfit look before you leave the house.
If you do those things but are still too ugly- time to get a great personality.
Cagi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less crap. Don't think about food as taste things, think of it as fuel. Do you want the dirty gas in your car, or premium? With cleaner gas, your engine will run better, your exhaust won't smell so bad, and your car will be thinner for some reason!
erro16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and your car will be thinner for some reason!
Finally I would be able to fit in those tiny leftover parking spaces!
Iotatl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good...
Shfiend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat everyone the same way you want to be treated.
That hot blonde girl with blue eyes in the bar poops too. It stinks. Obama does it too. So as the homeless dude that smells like weed who lives under the bridge.
Don't judge/expect anything from anybody. Confidence is attractive.
Wear clothes that fit. By fit I don't mean skin tight, but at least make sure they have as little bagginess as possible. This made a big difference for my appearance in college.
Cheap clothes that fit well > fancy clothes that don't fit well.
Be a gentlemen. Yes Ma'am, No Sir; hold open doors for anyone, not just the one you're trying to impress; and just do generally nice things to other people. This gets noticed by a lottt of people. Shows how you treat people that you aren't trying to get their attention or a gain from them.
Believe you're attractive, and let it shine through your personality. There's nothing more attractive than a confident person who truly loves themselves and has a great attitude.
when guys have long nails, uncontrolled beard and their clothes say they didn't really try and the eyebrows don't look like a caveman
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your mouth closed. Ever seen someone just hanging out with his mouth open, a vacant expression plastered on his face? Yeah, shut your mouth and that won't happen. This also applies to conversation: listen more.
Get clothes that fit. Seriously, I was always average looking (mom thought i was handsome) growing up, but when I Started wearing nicer clothes that fit every part of me appropriately (no more loose hoodies or over sized jackes), I Really could tell a difference. Also if you can find a reasonably priced t shirt that fits you well - buy like 10. I really like the crew cut express men t shirts and they often go on sale. They fit me really well. Even simple t shirts look awkward most of the time
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RoboTroy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bathe everyday
brush your teeth twice a day
grow a beard, but keep it short
captkiro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay groomed. Wear clothes that fit (not baggy or too tight). Smile often.
Neckbeards are a fine example of what not to do. Unkept hair, baggy shirts and trenchcoats, and a look of disgust when you dis my little pony.
cubzee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight, drink lots of water, eat well and get enough sleep. Essentially just try to be as healthy as possible. Good health is visually recognizable. It's in our DNA to seek healthy mates. That's why you have never seen a super ugly olympics athletes. Not your type maybe but not busted. (Que pictures of one off ugly athletes to prove the generalization wrong)
Justjo3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clip your nails and clean your ears. I have 3 sister who always told me this growing up. Simple enough!
Smile with your eyes. Most people can pick up on a phony or half-hearted smile, which can make you seem disingenuous or condescending. People who smile with their eyes, and do so often, radiate positivity and happiness to those around them. I'd rather be with a positive and happy person than a beautiful bitch with a scowl on her face.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be an active listener. My professor talked about this all of the time. When you're engaged in a conversation with someone, most of the time you're not really listening, you're thinking of what your response will be. So stop doing that. Instead focus on what they are saying and then when they are done, form your response. You'll sound much more intelligent when you've considered all angles of thought and you'll be much less likely to interrupt people.
Take a shower. I know some people who haven't yet figured this out. It's a good first step to not being totally repulsive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothing that fits, close your mouth, remember to wear deodorant. Brush your teeth, remember that the only thing important about appearance is that people will only care about it if you are meeting them for the first time.
This thread: "Things I do which I believe make more attractive"
I was hoping to see things other people find attractive. I promise you that people who find other people attractive don't know their skin care routine or their flossing habits.
Take a shower every day. Brush your teeth. Clean your ears.
Lead the life you wish to live , believe in what you believe but never ever try to impose either upon any other.
That sums it up :)
Maybe , be active, do stuff, get out every once in a while to do something new. It's good for conversation and you will realize it is good for the soul as well.
take care of your hair if you are male with more than the standar haircut, and female with pretty much any length. Men with long hair can be sexy as hell, but not if their long hair is greasy and tangled. Have the split-ends trimmed!!
anseyoh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less and exercise more.
Or maybe eat more and exercise more.
It's simple, but it's not easy.
Chan9495 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet.. losing weight can make you a lot better if you are overweight.
Don't wear anything more casual than jeans outside of the house/gym. Going out in gym shorts, sweats, etc.. often conveys a lack of effort in appearance.
Start going to bed early (at least by eleven), waking up before the sun does, instantly drinking 16 oz of water, and farting in your hands. Every day. No more excuses.
Be clean and well dressed. Nice cloths don't have to be expensive. Good will it up baby, just don't dress like a the homeless. This applies to both sexes. Also dress your weight. If your a bit on the heavier side don't dress in tight spandex cloths.
Listen to others when there talking and show genuine interest in their thoughts ideas and passion. Not fake interest, but actually listen to what there saying instead of talking about your self. Women love to tell you everything about themselves and men like to feel like they are empowered in what they do.
Just be clean nice and genuine and most normal people will go for that.
Honestly what seemed to work for me as a somewhat recently single guy was improving my shoe game. Women seem to pick up on that. No idea why but it's been working
Doesn't have to be a rigorous routine. All I do is jog for 30 minutes a day, and I've lost 10 pounds in about 2 months. Progress has been slow, but it's not like I'm training for a marathon. After the 1st month, my gf said she could tell I've lost weight. At this point, it's as much a part of my daily routine as brushing my teeth.
sarasti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big keys for me that made a huge difference:
Get a nice haircut that compliments your face shape and keep up with it. (Styling, conditioning, whatever it is that makes it look good)
Fix your posture. (For me this meant strengthening my core a bit and working on back flexibility, but ymmv) Posture can be the difference between looking amazing and looking shabby. In line with this point, keep your head up and look people in the eye. These changes will also boost your confidence, which is sexy.
Take care of your face. Especially for men, this often gets ignored. Just grab a jar of aquaphor and throw that shit all over your face at night. You'll look sharper, more well rested, and your skin will likely clear up. (This in turn feeds your confidence, get them positive feedback loops going)
Lastly, wear clothing that fits and be honest with yourself about your body shape and complimenting it. When I stopped chasing my friends' style and just doing my own thing in correct sizes I felt markedly better and routinely get compliments. Just own you.
Make sure your hair suits you, and I mean all of it, head, face, body. The most important two are of course, face and head, I've noticed that if I let my hair and beard grow out for a while, I get practically no attention, whereas if I'm nicely groomed, I get quite a lot. Also ensure your body hair suits your look, a crapload of body hair isn't going to suit someone who has a cute face, whereas if you're a manly man with a beard and muscle, it might.
Another thing is nails, keep them nicely groomed and clean, it's easy enough to forget, but truly does go a long way, particularly long nails aren't attractive on males, and they're also very easy to get dirty, and dirty finger nails are extremely unattractive.
Voice is also something which I believe most people care about, try be well-spoken and somewhat articulate, most people will appreciate a well spoken person. "Please" and "Thank you" are also very important I believe, it shows you're considerate.
As for females(and some males), skilful application of make-up is very important. Personally, I think make up should be very hard to notice, less is more, women who have half a tub of foundation and have a stick up lip gloss on aren't attractive in my opinion.
Enigmutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a book. Or two. Actually just read anything. When a majority of your knowledge of the world comes from just video games, tv or school you find that holding stimulating conversations as an adult is difficult when you have nothing to offer. Educate yourself outside of school and actually give a fuck about the billions of things in the world you know nothing about. Knowledge is really sexy, but warning: being cocky and having an attitude like you know everything is the complete opposite of sexy.
jaemann ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to dance. I used to teach Ballroom and it really helped the social life of both genders. It isn't just because people who can dance have something to do socially that requires contact, it gives you grace, good posture, and confidence.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less is more. There's a difference between being flashy and attention grabbing and the more subtle eye-drawing quality of attractiveness
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care about those around you. I used to pride myself on being an tough and cool, I acted uninterested in everyone who wasn't a very good friend. One day I had a rare (for me) moment of clarity and realized that I wasn't cool, I was an asshole. Now I show interest in those around me and try to help if I can. Surprisingly people like me better when I'm not an asshole; who'd a thunk?
Eat clean. Hit the gym. Strict hygiene. Take care of your skin. Be carefully groomed. Dress well. Practice dating: i.e. talk to girls anyway you can (e.g. using Tinder, chatting, going to social gatherings, birthdays, sports club with mixed activities - I met my current girlfriend in my rowing club).
Attraction is subjective. Wear makeup properly, don't dye your hair a stupid colour, wear clothes that fit your body, keep impeccable dental hygiene, and don't get tattoos. Everything I just said could be the opposite for somebody else.
Dergono ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your fingernails. You might assume that people won't notice, but they will, and they will judge you for it.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They can judge all they want. I'll still only cut them like once a week so I don't stab people with them. That's being generous enough.
Physically, maintain your hair. Most "weird" or "awkward" looking people have poor hair health or they just don't care for it. I can't afford nice hair products so a simple wash and twice a week conditioning really helps. I'm a girl so straightening my hair helps the frizz and makes it look better. Putting a bit of effort into your mane can really 1 up how you look and potentially feel
Sozerano ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get clothes that fit well.
Get a haircut from a real salon (not supercuts) with a stylist who can give you advice on styling.
Fake confidence until you make it. Confidence is not Arrogance!
If you are balding, just shave that shit off, or just really short, no one wants to see a combover. Yes, you do see them occasionally.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try and exude a quiet confidence (not arrogance, its very different).
Wear what you love and love what you wear- if you're dressed in something you're comfortable in you'll be so much more confident and thus attractive to others. Nothing worse than wearing something you don't feel comfortable in and looking like a twat
Never always claim your opinion is the right one. Of course you can do this sometimes, but if you do it all the time you will be seen as a cunt who you can't have a normal conversation with. Even if you don't agree, try to listen to what other people have to say.
3 super easy things to get women to notice you more, 1: stand tall and dont hunch, 2: look out not down when walking and standing, unless you are looking at a specific thing, 3: take time to formulate a response and speak clearly and concisely.
robohymn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're musically inclined, practice until you're actually really good on whatever instrument you play. For many people, musical talent is a MAJOR aphrodisiac. I'm a pretty average-looking guy who plays jazz piano semi-professionally and I do very well on the dating scene for no other discernible reason. Well, musicianship combined with the kind of laid-back confidence you tend to see among good musicians.
Am female in band. Can confirm. Highly agree with this idea.
I participate in an extra-curricular where EVERYONE is somewhat musically inclined, but the ones who REALLY, REALLY good get all the attention. Males and females alike. Even if I see someone who isn't in band but play an instrument, they are instantly more attractive to me.
Take care of yourself. Shower regularly, keep facial hair trimmed or shaved if you're a man, style your hair, keep it maintained. Pay attention to what you wear; don't just throw on whatever tee shirt and sweatpants are clean, actually try when you go out to meet people.
Smell good. Go out and get some dank cologne. It ain't cheap. Greatly recommend using davidoff cool water (non-deep). I had every girl smelling me in college. They would just talk amongst themselves about how good I smelled.
I guarantee that you will not get arms like Arnold. Muscle mass creates a beautiful shape and beautiful booties. Nothing is sexier than some muscle tone especially on the legs.
Same goes for guys. A guy with a beer belly looks sloppy. A guy with a beer belly, broad shoulders, and muscular arms looks tough. Lose the beer belly and look/feel even better.
Have your clothes tailored. Not only do they look infinitely better, but they're more comfortable and you'll feel great.
I just had a shirt tailored for the first time. I went out, and by the end of the night, someone had asked me to model for a photoshoot for them. Not joking.
Whiten your teeth. Don't go all neon crazy white, but whiten them a few shades.
derp_08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having an open mind. Nothing is uglier than the person who has all the answers and won't listen to others. I tend to stay from those types of people and I'm willing to bet many others do to.
I was going to let this go but since no one has said it yet: be on time.
As someone who is frequently late or rushing or telling people I'll be there soon (which is almost always a lie), I can tell you people hate it. My ex was extremely punctual and would drag me out of the house early all the time, and people definitely noticed the change. If you're always late, you seem unreliable, untrustworthy, and even incompetent. It seems so minor but it can have a big impact in the way people view you.
season22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit properly.
Seriously, doesn't matter about body type; baggy clothing just doesn't look very good.
Don't let that Zurich thing get you down. It's full of shit anyways.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't smoke. Smoking makes you look like shit if you do enough of it.
Hygiene. Seriously, half of looking nice is simply having good hygiene. Brush your damn teeth and keep your hair clean and arranged. Use deodorant, for the love of all that is good and holy. Clothes dirty? Don't wear them out in public.
Keep your hair trimmed. Even if it's long, it will behave so much better if it's trimmed and not full of split ends.
Wear perfume or cologne - not enough to smother passersby, just a dash. I like to dab a tiny bit on my neck and then put one tiny drop in my cleavage. Drives the boys wild. And by the boys, I mean "my husband". And by wild, I mean that once in a while he notices I smell nice.
Wear clothes that fit. Stuffing your body into clothes two sizes too small in the hopes that nobody will notice that you're chubby isn't fooling anyone...and it doesn't make you look thinner, or sleeker, or younger. Clothes that fit you properly will look so much better!! Ditto goes with draping your body in sweat shirts or track pants because you hate it and want to hide it...it just looks like you are sad and have given up. And that might be true, but you could be sad and give up in an outfit that looks fly as fuck if you just take the time to find stuff that fits you properly. It also helps to make sure that the shape of your clothes doesn't hit you in a spot that looks bad or that emphasizes a feature you hate - if you think your ass is too big, this means you shouldn't wear leggings as pants and pair them with a jacket that ends at the waist whyyyyyy do so many girls do that to themselves it looks so bad even if your butt is tiny!!! pulls hair out And find colours that look good on you - if it makes your teeth and eyes look whiter, and makes you look more awake, and makes your skin look bright and nice, that's a good colour on you; if it makes you look feverish or yellow, or emphasizes the bags under your eyes, or washes you out, don't wear it because it's a bad colour on you.
Take care of your body. Eat properly, sleep lots, and be active.
The old saying, "beauty is skin only deep but ugly goes to the bone" in my experience is real. In my 30 years here, I have seen some very good looking people be complete and utter scumbags. Be a good person, treat every person with respect and kindness.
Lose weight for yourself, to be healthier, don't lose it just to be more attractive. Don't be shallow. There are a lot of good tips here already for being more confident and physically attractive, but as I say above, if you are an ugly person i.e. mean, hateful, cruel, and unkind, then nothing here can help you, you have to start from within.
Shave your excess body hair. It will make you feel a lot sexier
mushbo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men, wear women's perfume. I swear to god the women would flock to me and tell me how good I smelled. If you don't want to wear women's perfume, get something that smells like chocolate.
Women, If you smell like a steak (medium rare) or WD-40.
Close your mouth. I am tall (6'5") and this seems to affect tall guys more often. I used to walk around with my mouth agape for no good reason and it made me look like an oaf. It never occurred to me until my sister and I were looking at pictures of ourselves and she asked me why my mouth was always open, gotta love family. She was right though, and i started making a conscientious effort to keep it closed, the result being that i frequently clench my jaw. Anyway, huge difference, I no longer cringe at candid shots of myself and random strangers no longer approach me to ask if I need help.
Wear clothes that for properly. Fight the urge to simply base a wardrobe on comfort. Especially as you hit your 30s. Good, well-fitted clothes make a big difference.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take an hour a day to go to the gym. Control your calories. Eat a bit healthier. Posture. Cut your hair a different way. Get out of your comfort zone and people will notice.
Reyeorts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you meet new people, don't just talk about yourself. Being a good listener displays maturity and social awareness, which is very attractive. And all you have to do is shut the fuck up for a minute...
Don't fidget or pick your nails or bite your nails or scratch your skin or pick your skin. It makes you look like a worrier and lowers your social status/value
I stopped chewing my nails and skin a few months ago. First time I've had cuticles in 14 years
Care for your eyebrows. They can make or break a face. Go get them done by a professional. If you have a serious lack of browage, get a professional to teach you how to put them on. Good brows attract attention to the eyes and make it easier for people to read your emotions.
I think wardrobe is huge. i don't even mean nicer quality clothes, i just mean ditch the tshirt for a button down (which can be found cheap) and toss the sweatpants for some khakis or nice jeans.
also, you wouldn't know it from my post but using proper punctuation and spelling in e-communication goes a long way.
Don't automatically agree with everything your attractee says. Sure you should have some stuff in common, but contrary opinions make for excellent conversation. It also shows you are your own person.
Being attractive consists of two things; personality and physical attractiveness. Personality is a bit tricky because its hard to think about changing that. Being more friendly with random people(especially kids), and showing respect to the world. Your personality effects attractiveness for long term relationships.
For physical appearance however, is about catching someones eye, and this for most people can be as simple as being well groomed and wearing nicer clothes.
Shitburp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posting from phone so sorry if someone beat me to this.
Drink a gallon of water a day. Hydrates the skin, flushes impurities, and helps keep you full so you snack less and have less of a desire for sugary drinks.
Literally buy a gallon jug and carry out with you. The more you hold it, the more you'll drink. Make sure you finish a few hours before bed time. You don't pee as much as you think after a while and will be surprised how easy it is to do after a while.
Got my wife to start doing this when she was pregnant and she still does it and always said she wishes she would have done it sooner.
jedi-son ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not going to post pictures but I was jokingly/seriously voted most improved during college. Here are some basic things you can do:
Start working out. I was about 6' 150lb when I entered college and left around 180lb. Working out makes you feel great and will do an amazing amount for your confidence. Additionally, improving your back muscles can greatly help with posture but in general posture is something you should make an active effort to improve. Nothing to complicated here just stand up straight.
Get a real haircut. I ditched the jew fro for something shorter and easier to maintain. Get a comb and run it through your hair when you get out of the shower. You'll be shocked how much this can change the way your hair behaves. I went from fro to flow with this simple trick (heyo buzzfeed).
Get a decent wardrobe. You don't have to be James Bond but try not to look like you live in a van down by the river.
Practice smiling. This sound ridiculous but it works. I had one of those goofy ass super awkward smiles and I made an effort to fix it. Just look at how you smile in the mirror and try to not look like a goon. Not too hard.
Honestly if you put in the effort the payoff is more than worth it. My success with woman has increased like 10000%. Not trying to sound like a douche just telling you it works.
As a lad, I grew up very nerdy, with that comes wearing my pants closer to my nipples than to my waist level, styling my hair poorly, allowing all sorts of nerd jargon to let fly from my mouth...the works. Textbook nerd.
7th grade, I'm awkward to look at, sat with the outcasts during lunch(brought a lunchbox too), was in chess club, was very pale and gangley...it was a bad time.
Now over the years, I had never wanted to change, despite my mom's attempts at helping me look 'cool'. I told her I was very comfortable with my appearance.
At least until 7th grade, when I realized that I was lonely, saw that I looked like an idiot, and was very tired of being bullied.
I wanted to be cool, and have cool friends, and do cool things.
So I made a change, the next morning, I wore my pants at my waist, didn't style my hair in the ugly manner to which I was accustomed, left my lunch box at home, and asked my 'cool' friend if I could sit by him at lunch.
After that, it all changed, I made so many great friends, started listening to all sorts of cool music, did things I'd never dreamed of doing as my geeky self.
To get the person I am today, it was quite the iterative process, it didn't happen all at once.
So random redditor, I'll leave you with these tips:
-realize that you want to change, not just for other's approval, but for yourself!
-understand that you must be patient, it isn't an overnight thing.
-accept criticism, the good and the bad
-confidence is key, but don't get cocky.
70camaro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DaveySpo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower everyday, keep your hair (including facial hair) from looking nappy. Make sure your clothes smell clean. Keep your nails clipped. Just take overall good care of yourself.
It sounds dumb but I go by "look good smell good feel good"
When I feel clean there is a big difference in my confidence levels.
mooneb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clothing that fits properly makes a world of difference
Have some pride. Don't tolerate anyone disrespecting you. Don't be a pathetic mess of a person who is willing to deal with being treated like shit in hopes of having someone wanting to be with you. If who you lust over isn't into you, walk away.
And most importantly, brush your teeth! ;)
Jakesta7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fix your hair. For men, get a haircut and part your hair with some product.
tabasaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your nails. Shows you take out time to groom yourself in the little things as well. No matter what you wear or look like, I feel hygiene is the most important
As a male, have confidence. Both me and my best friend are honestly equal to each other in attractiveness but in all the years we've known each other I've always had a significantly high success rate with women. He has a hard time talking to women fumbles around himself well I am very confident and know exactly what I want to say and how to say. (Me and him were actually just discussing this last night)
drhorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy clothes that fit you.
They don't have to be expensive, but make sure they actually fit your body type. Only way to do that is to try on clothes until you find the ones that fit you.
Hint: baggy clothes don't fit you well. By definition.
A $25 teeth whitening kit from Walmart. Even if your teeth are crooked or with gaps, whiter teeth makes your appearance a lot better. Thats just a small physical change.
As for attitude - do something you have always wanted to do, but you were afraid of. It doesn't need to be something crazy like sky diving... just do something different.
woman here. I used to think it wasn't important how I looked but if u look nice u get treated differently... just a fact.
so but I'm very simple. I have about 3 "good" outfits I rotate (I'm unemployed so it doesn't matter to me to have more clothes) and when I go out I wear my simple but nice outfits. out my hair in a neat bun or pony, and I always wear eye liner and a bit of makeup, spritz of perfume.
I don't do much jewelry.... but I always keep a pair of earrings in that don't hurt and I don't have to change, and a ring my boyfriend gave me.
and smile. smiling at people puts them at ease and helps them to like u more.
I do take care of my skin..... lotions I sleep in at night probably 4-5 nights a week.
I only bathe once or twice a week - I'm not gross, but growing up in Europe Americans seem to over bathe to me. and when I shower I dry and curl my hair and it stays that way for most of the week....
I'm super simple and not fussy, but you have to look nice for people to like u.... and don't forget to smile....
People notice when you're the guy who never holds the elevator, tips the service staff or waiter, uses the last of the toilet paper, don't return your grocery cart, etc. Basically, nobody wants to date a dick. Take the extra 5 seconds and don't be a dick.
Be positive. Try to see the good, the fun, or at least the funny in everything. You know the proverb: "Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone"? Well it's true โ nobody likes a downer.
With that said, keep it real. Disingenuousness always makes me question someone's motives.
Last but not least, when it comes to appearances โ know what works for you and what doesn't. The latest fashion trends always look good on models because they're models; they might not flatter your figure very well so find out what does and work it! And the importance of good hygiene cannot be understated. In short, self-awareness goes a long way.
I'm late and this will never be read.
Women: makeup. I'm not saying you have to overload it but some foundation and a natural eyeshadow selection will go a long way.
Men: clothing, namely, a suit that fits you well. Get it tailored.
Everyone: clothes that fit. Get some stuff tailored to your size.
Stop walking or looking around with a disinterested scowl on your face.
This is one thing I noticed in other people before I saw it in myself. When you wear a frown like that, it makes you look unfriendly and unnapproachable. I would assume pessimistic things about the world and the people around me but I was only reflecting my own negativity.
Don't smoke. Smoking is the most disgusting habit one can have and turns the best looking person ugly.
Other than that: Shower. Brush your hair and teeth. Wear deodorant and clean clothes that fit. Cut your nails before they're long enough to catch dinner.
If you're a dude with short hair, part your damn hair. Buy some pomade and slather a little (A LITTLE) in there. It can make all the difference between "college freshman with bangs swooped to the side" and "adult".
mkhpsyco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late to the game, but please use shampoo.
I understand if you have looked it all up and read the science and all that shit, but no one just straight up leaves behind shampooing. They just do it less.
Got a friend who has straight up stopped buying shampoo, hasn't shampooed his hair for a couple months or more, his hair is greasy as fuck. If he just washed his hair once a week with shampoo, he'd be way better off.
I'm sure some similar things have been expressed before me. My personal ones. Don't slouch, do trim your nose and unibrow hair. Don't cut people off when talking, do humor people in a casual setting. Don't try to relate everything a person says to a personal experience of your own, do ask them more about what they just said.
Adgum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basic hygiene. Wash yourself. Hair and body. If you have a beard, wash that too. Clean in and behind your ears. Around your genitals. And mainly if you are a guy, your arse Crack (hairy ones mainly). The amount of people I've had to walk behind in public settings putting out a putrid stream of shit is rediculous.
Brush your teeth, floss, use chewing gum daily. Dont eat junk food everyday and your skin won't look so oily. Dont slouch. Look at people when you are talking to them. Etc etc etc etc.
Colbion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be yourself! You can go through life being nice acquaintances with everyone, or you can be yourself and find people who love being with you, and establish real, deep connections with. I'm not saying be a shirt person, but if you like something, don't be afraid to say you like it amd express how you feel. Yes, you'll have haters, but you'll also have real, emotional connections with people close to you. You won't just go thru life being that one dude (or girl) that just "gets along" with everyone, but nothing more.
There's a great quote by Dr. Seuss that goes, " Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
All credit goes to Simple Pickup (YT channel)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit! Many people wear ill-fitting clothes, especially young men. So many wear suit jackets that are too big in the shoulders - you look like a teen borrowing your dad's coat for prom.
Tailored clothing makes a huge difference in attractiveness.
adriD2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man, get a haircut at least once a month and spend an extra minute or two, before you leave, combing your hair and put a little gel or cream in it to make yourself look presentable.
Get enough sleep every night (6 hours bare minimum), be physically active, eat well (eat your fucking vegetables you animals), interact with other humans (practice makes...better).
Here is a simple thing...eat healthier. Here is another...get some exercise. Simple thing, but not easy.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
These are three things I've heard from both men and women over my (admittedly) many long years of life on this crazy planet.
Be confident in yourself. I'm not talking about arrogance; I mean believe in yourself, in your strengths, in your right to happiness, and don't put yourself down or apologize for who you are.
Be nice to people. Don't talk shit about other people behind their backs. Don't make fun of your subordinates. Don't belittle the wait staff. Treat everyone with respect and care and give a damn about them.
Relax. Stop worrying about if you'll be loved or not, if you'll get laid or not, if you said the right thing or the wrong thing, etc. etc. Chill out and go with the flow.
How you look? Not actually that important. Wash your clothes regularly, shower and use deodorant and toothpaste. Trim or shave any hair that shouldn't be there. Stand up straight. Check your breath occasionally. That's about it.
Make sure you smell good, and keep your face and clothing on point. that is a first step. then you could start exercising to make everything increase in value even more
BigGiff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be well spoken. A well spoken individual, who correctly pronounces words and is clear and articulate is very attractive and also usually respected. You don't need to know how to spell things (I sure don't) just sound good. It goes a long way with a lot of things.
Shower, wear clean clothing.(not pj's, pj's mean you just don't give a shit) and brush your hair and teeth. Upkeep on standard personal hygiene makes a huge difference.
I'd bet a lot of homeless people would love a hot shower and clean clothes. And sadly, clean, they somehow become people to other people again rather than "some dirty homeless person". It's horrible how they're treated since many don't have access to things to upkeep hygiene.
But seriously, I know people who are not homeless and they just for whatever reason slack on personal hygiene. You could be physically attractive but if you don't shower, have gross teeth and breath and look like a bird is nesting on your head, that takes away from your attractiveness. Cleaning yourself up is one of the easiest ways to become more attractive if it's something you slack on. *edit for spelling
I'm seeing a lot of "be positive," "be clean," "be confident," and things of the sort. Fuck all that. If you want to be attractive to me, be yourself. Don't listen to what anyone tells you to doโฆ except your doctor. Definitely listen to your doctor.
Be polite, even to strangers. If a stranger is polite, be polite back. Snobby/rude people instantly become a zero in my book, no matter how physically attractive they may appear.
Wear clothes that fit right. Makes such a difference!!!
ikcaj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth and smile. It doesn't matter how God-awfully atrocious your teeth may be, (or what's left of them); get some Crest 3D White toothpaste and brush that lone snaggle-tooth 'til it blinds people. I promise at least I will find you more attractive.
It shows worldly finesse in a potentially awkward situation. Restaurants create a really odd dynamic: Servers are being paid to help you order your own food. This small interaction in itself crosses a LOT of social boundaries; you are talking with a servant that has control over your food. It's a weird social dynamic. Being able to successfully navigate this small but important area shows that you are gracious, informed, worldly, kind, smart, but most importantly aware of the situation's complexity but handle the entire affair as easily as brushing one's hair. It shows maturity.
1wsx10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i meant i never understood why people are mean to waiters. they can spit in your food!
If you have a little bit of a double chin, press your tongue to the roof of your mouth and you can feel that area pull tight. This is especially useful for photos.
Drafo7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
So many people don't realize you project what you feel or how you feel about yourself without even trying or thinking. the brain, in my opinion is the strongest muscle in the body, yet the hardest to train, and is one that needs to be exercised many times everyday. The more you neglect other human interaction the less human you feel to other people. If you are looking for shallow attraction (physical appearances) then step up your hygiene or and or physical activities. First of all start off with knowing what you really want in a person, then decide what steps to take to attract that certain type of person. A lot can happen subliminally with your direction change in searching for a future SO or prospect. Don't change who you are as a person but be open to adjustments, especially if you are striking out. You need to know and project what you want to have; and the universe will serve it (if you put in the effort). Keep in mind that people usually want what they cannot have so keep your standards lower at first while playing the field, but don't settle or tie yourself down too soon. Someone who rushes a relationship is usually insecure and or trying to make you attached before giving you proper chance to realize if they are right for you. Once simple attraction is met and recognized then make your move. Know when to be aggressive and when to be more assertive and play conservative (NO ONE likes someone who doesn't know how to listen, be assertive). Again people want what they cant have, so don't play an illusion but keep it interesting (leaving some imagination in the mix). Like others said the more confidence you have with yourself the better off you will be, but not letting ego get in the way. Confidence has foundation; meanwhile ego is just hot air; only keeping you up for so long.. Putting yourself in uncomfortable situations like talking to a random girl at the coffee shop or volunteering for random things will help you expand your circle and confidence cloud. the more you interact the better off you will be but first you need to work on YOU. hope this helps; just what ive learned in my 23 years of existence.
stop whipping out your smartphone from your pocket, or constantly checking it when you're with someone, especially if it's your SO or a girl you're courting.
Guys, a nice foundation will even out your skin tone, can be pretty affordable, and will add two minutes to your daily routine. Don't be afraid of a little make up.
supervy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat others with the best of manners, compassion, and thoughtfulness--especially friends and families of those you're closest to. In turn you will attract those who appreciate such qualities whether it be in your career, social, or love life.
Wash your pillowcases and sheets at least once a week. It made a noticeable difference in my skin for sure, especially the side of my face that's usually on the pillow all night
The oxytocin can also be created by simply doing something you honestly like. A self reward for doing something you need to do also creates a decent amount of it.
The vitamins D thing depends on if your deficient and how well you absorb sunlight.
I live in the American Gardens Building on W. 81st Street on the 11th floor. My name is silentbeast19. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
kit3high ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile lots, don't forget to make eye contact. Use deodorant.
If you're a girl, get some eyeliner - that stuff transforms your face and isn't too difficult to use.
Girls with glasses - We can be very sexy, but you need to figure out what glasses suit your face - the shape, what goes with your hair and eyes and how you dress. As soon as you do that you'll be amazed at the difference.
raeiou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:21:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat the school hallway as your own personal runway. Chin up, stomach in. I sometimes get head-turns because of the faux confidence I exude, especially when it's a Monday.
The secret is to not constantly talk about those insecurities in the apparent hopes that someone will take pity on you and try to fix you. Don't do that. Not doing that gives even the most unfortunate looking person a couple of extra attractive points. Focus on the positive.
Also, smile. I don't mean become one of those psychotic looking people who are constantly smiling. Just smile when it's appropriate. Smile at people. I know this guy who is normally perfectly average looking. When he smiles, though... good god. Something happens to his face, and he goes from a 4 to a solid 7.5-8.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower: I mean, come on it's surprising how many people don't fucking do this. Although I do work at a gas station and see people at their worst.
Brush your teeth: Even if it's only once a week, do it. I've seen too many fairly attractive people with what looks like lines of plaque on their teeth where their lips sit.
Don't eat like a slob: No one enjoys watching you scarf down food like a starving hog eating slop. Even worse, a lot of people don't attempt to close their mouth and smack. If it sounds like two obese people having rough sex when you eat, you need to close your mouth.
Shut up and listen.
Let other do 95 % of the talking. But when it's your turn, have an opinion. No "i don't know" or "whatever", try to contribute to the conversation.
Makes you look smart. And, to be fair, its what smart is in to a big extend
mad_kap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For girls: Get your eyebrows done, invest the time and money (maybe $30-$40) and get them threaded-threaded is the way to go if you're a wimp like me and it looks best. It cleans up your face like NOTHING ELSE. Well groomed brows are a sign of symmetry and order and, therefore, you wont need to cake your face with unnecessary makeup. That means you can go out with a fresh, undone face and still look like you've got it together (they tend to bring out your natural beauty when they're done). Dont neglect your brows, they're often the most powerful but subtle asset your face has.
360726 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:10 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EXERCISE. It's 100% in your control to do it or not. Instantly makes you a more attractive desirable human
blp0267 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:29:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a confidence in myself.
By being confident in ourselves, we can love ourselves. And it means we can have tender heart to other people as well as
to ourselves. I think it is true that when we love ouselves we are kind to other people.
Yes, make sure you have a clean neat appearance. You can still have your own style but make the best of that style. Your fashion choices do say something about you
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:22:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haikela ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:15:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For men: wear a well-tailored suit every now and then. A suit that fits perfectly really enhances a guy's appearance. Sometimes a woman doesn't notice a guy for years, then sees him in a nice suit, then bam! "Oh, he's actually cute. How come I never noticed that?" Plus, you can actually get away wearing just one or two suits again and again, so it's not that expensive. People won't notice you wear the same suit, just how nice you look.
A well tailored suit is a good first step. You really need three well tailored suits so you can switch jackets and pants and such. A good tailor can help you out with that. He'll style all your jackets and pants to be able to be worn interchangeably which is great for tailored suits. (Your tailor will actually advise you to wear certain shoes with each suit, as well. Over laces, never wings)
Your last and final step is to learn how to wear a suit and act accordingly while wearing it. Learn how to properly collar your tie. Also learn how to decide whether to wear suspenders or a belt, but never both.
Learn the rules of being a gentleman because that's how you should act while wearing a suit. Such as never buttoning the bottom button of the jacket and always undo the jacket buttons when you take a seat(that's also a good interview tip).
One thing you don't actually have to really worry about that will put some flare into your attire is styled socks. You can wear really crazy socks. I'm talking Mario and Luigi socks or flannel patterned socks. The socks don't matter as long as they aren't white and fit your personality.
Tip #1:Stay away from three piece suits until your tailor says your classy ass can handle it.
Tip #2:Always stick to classic suits because they will never be a waste of money. They never go out of style.
HerrXRDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For greater effect, get an S-Class to go with the suit.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No shit. Ask a woman what she spends on average upkeep items.
tL1ght ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys, buy clothing that fits properly. Baggy pants and shirts are not attractive, neither are overly tight pants or shirts. If you've got a belly, find something slightly looser.
Women, tone it down with the make up. If I can see the fondation powder on your face I will not talk to you for very long. If your eyebrows are painted on, go away. Seriously.
Dress to fit your body type and colouring. Finding out your skin tone is helpful- my SO has lovely tan warm skin, he looks great in white, for example, whereas my skin is pale and cold toned, and white is not good on me, cream or off white is better. Also, try to relax in conversations with the gender of people you're attracted to - don't put people on a pedestal. Try to treat them as a person...
Call me a criticizer and complainer, but this whole thread is a joke. Don't do a god damn thing but be yourself. Sure there are basic rules of respect, but that applies to everyone that deserves to be respected. If your altering your personality to become more attractive, you are obviously addicted to love and that's a one way ticket to a bad relationship. Maybe once you learn to be comfortable with yourself you will find someone you can see yourself being with, maybe not, but don't let not being hot dog top #1 be a factor for your happiness. Real happiness comes from within man, and once you realize that, all the rest will follow.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. If you are a nervous wreck with no confidence, just be yourself! You'll get laid eventually if you live long enough. It's Moore's law
eatmeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing with the whole "Be yourself" mantra. Some people are stuck being a shitty version of themselves, possibly the result of years of being seen as ugly and general bad luck and shittiness. So the key is not to be yourself, but to be that awesome version of yourself that you were before all that shitty stuff happened to you.
Being a shitty person implies you are disrespectful. I am saying once you establish a reasonable way to treat people, don't worry about being anything but yourself. But hey, if you want to be disrespectful and you realize that means you won't have mutual connections with people, go ahead lol. But i think people like that might find themselves fighting a natural desire to have human connection.
Why are you nervous? I think asking that question will lead you to finding out either that you are disrespectful or you are not and just too concerned about what other people think of you beyond that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think "be your best self" is a better way of putting it. Don't bring all your bad habits and baggage to the table and expect someone to take it all on, then scream "I'M JUST BEING MYSELF" when they don't like it. Figure out your assets and work to them, while working on your flaws as best you can.
Wh0rse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me personally, ladies, don't be so hard on your weight. Men love some curves. My wife is always running and working out, I told her she was going to run off her titties...she got mad but I am scared....for the titties.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know she was working out for you though? Maybe she just enjoys keeping fit?
mrnagrom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. Speak for yourself. Some men arent really into curves
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:34:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm a skinny dude. I like skinny girls.
mrpeppr1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah I think this is the minority actually. I would take a fit body and toned ass over some extra chest/butt flab anyday.
General Hygiene. Wash regularly (including the undercarriage), groom yourself well (not over-obsessively), and wear clean, well-maintained clothes.
Be Polite/Considerate. Treat others with respect, and try to listen more than you talk.
Confidence. Not egoism or bravado. Simply be comfortable in you own skin, and humble enough to laugh off your own faults.
Humor. People like people who make them laugh. Be wary of the PC-meter; maybe start with the self-effacing stuff.
CarmenTS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we're talking "superficially attractive"...
For women:
Earrings. Nothing crazy. Small studs of any kind. They enhance your face.
Get your eyebrows done in a way/shape that they enhance your face.
Slough the dead skin off of your lips and moisturize.
Clean & moisturize your skin at night.
Thin, midsize or heavy set, wear clothes that compliment you at any size. Just because you have flaws doesn't mean you have to wear baggy clothes.
For men:
Find a good haircut and hair stylist & stick with it/him or her.
Learn what amount/shape of facial hair is most complimentary to you.
Clip and file your fingernails!!
TAKE BETTER CARE OF YOUR ORAL HYGIENE!!!!
Slough off the dead skin on your lips & moisturize.
Stand up straight and learn better posture!
Find a pair of jeans that FIT. Ask someone for help from a jean store.
Stop wearing those Jerry Seinfeld from the 90s running sneakers. There is a category of sneakers called "fashion athletic" that are comfortable and stylish. Converse is an example.
Undershirts are not suitable to be worn as regular shirts. It shows a lack of effort.
IMPORTANT: Kindness, Confidence, Humility, Self-Assuredness and Humor are so SO crucial. So do what you have to do to yourself on the outside to look attractive to other people from afar, but make sure that once people get up close, they like that person underneath all of that, too.
Most of the stuff in this thread is about physical appearance or generic 'be confident' stuff, which is true.
But I'll add that you should also try to interact with people on a deeper level. Nobody's gonna be attracted to you if they don't even remember you after talking to you. Make eye contact when you talk to someone, even if you can only manage a little. When they talk to you, listen to them and empathize with them. Learn their name and tell them yours, and remember their name. Don't be afraid to express yourself or relate an interesting, relevant story or fact. Don't be afraid to tell a dirty joke or a groan-inducing pun. Don't be afraid to tell them your opinion on something and why you hold that opinion. Don't be afraid to let them know what you value.
I don't mean talk their ear off, I just mean a lot of people spend their day making forgettable small talk when, with a bit more effort, you can relate to people a lot more. You are much more likely to find someone you are compatible with, and more people are more likely to think they're compatible with you, when you actually get to know some people and let them get to know you instead of just being a weather, sports, and celebrity gossip robot to all but your closest friends. A lot of people are afraid to say the wrong thing and say nothing instead. But think about the people you're attracted to; you might think some of their opinions are wrong, and some of their favourite music and tv shows are terrible, but you like the rest of them so much it doesn't matter. The same will apply to you.
It will, if you don't actually ask out the people you're attracted to early on. But if you don't even try to connect with people then you won't even get "friend-zoned" you'll get "nothing-zoned."
Pajamas - Guess when you should wear these? At home, lounging around the house. NEVER outside of the house.
Sweats/Athletic Wear - Guess when you should wear these? At the gym, going for a run, or doing some active. Never out to eat, or anything like that.
Jeans/T-shirt/Non-athletic hoodies - This is the very minimum level of dress acceptable for any social/public adventure. This is casual wear. Anything less is loungewear. You can wear this to the supermarket or to hang around at a friends house. Or for a very casual outing with friends.
Most people don't need any more direction than that...but for some more generalized stuff...
If you're unsure of the dress appropriate for an occasion, always err on the side of over-dressed. Being a half step better dressed than everyone else will make you stand out in a positive way.
IF YOU'RE SKINNY - Do not wear baggy clothes. You look ridiculous and you're not fooling anyone.
If YOU'RE FAT - Do not wear baggy clothes. You look unkempt and you're not fooling anyone.
Kapalka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm skinny and I wear baggy clothes, how exactly am I trying to fool people?
Kapalka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was anorexic in middle school and I still have a pretty warped body image. So basically I think I look fat even when I'm on the skinnier side of normal.
He may also have been alluding to that many "skinnier" guys would prefer to be bigger, so they may wear baggier clothing to appear bigger.
This does not usually apply to girls. I know some women don't like being "so skinny", but it's unusual for a girl to wear baggier clothes to try and appear bigger.
If YOU'RE FAT - Do not wear baggy clothes. You look unkempt and you're not fooling anyone.
People underestimate this. While I've lost a lot of weight, I'm still a big guy. But, with lost weight means wardrobe time. So all my clothes fit well, and I make sure of it. Now I get complements constantly on my style and how I look (before I tried to hide my size with baggy). Before I could go to a bar and have no one talk to me. Now I go to a bar and after a few minutes of talking I'm having to hold up my left hand as a "You're nice and all, but I really don't want to be murdered when I get home tonight".
Own your heft, gents. A large guy who is well dressed will be found as sexy by quite a many women. A large guy who looks like a slob just plays into the stereotype.
Typically, NO, sloppy they're not. WTF would a fit woman engage with fat man, like you, unless you were paying her bills or she had some sort of fetish. It's a fact, get used to it.
Dude, honestly go fuck off. You're not the voice for a very diverse population, and your perception is very different from reality. It's clear you spend too much time watching TV and jerking it to midget porn.
Your insecurity is amusing. Beauty is an OBJECTIVE standard. If it weren't an objective standard than fat women would be Victoria's Secret models and in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition. The ONLY reason a hot/fit woman would date/fuck a fat man is because of money/power. Period. End of story. Full stop. They have better options and opportunities. Conversely, the ONLY men dating/fucking fat women are those who are fetishists/feeders or those with no other viable options. The "warm port in any storm" guys. I just love your delusion and willful self-deception.
You know, you pointed out your own flawed argument here. It's objective. It's not universal.
That's the only part of your post that's correct. The rest of your post is pure schlop, the rantings of someone who is insecure (yeah, you claim I'm insecure, I'm not the one ranting and raving like you are).
On this note, if you're the kinda guy (or gal) that poops multiple times a day, having wet wipes is a life saver. It would be great if we could all shower after every shit, but that's obviously not practical. Wipes help you stay clean after every bathroom visit so that you don't smell like a pile of compost in between showers.
Why am I reading these!? I'm married, I don't care
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went from slaying dragons by myself to slaying bitches with 3 simple changes. Got a damn haircut, started working out and walked upright. (Also, joined Marines)
BrennaS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coconut oil each morning instead of creams and other chemical shit. Makes your skin look way better (preventing eczema etc). Also puts a pep in your step just thinking about the coconut.
Get a haircut. People think that because Kurt Cobain looked cool with unkempt hair, they can pull it off too. They can't. Hair like that makes most people look like hobos. Ditto for beards. We can't be as dashing as Zack Galifianakis.
laceyxxx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:57:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This may sound cheesy AF. But the most attractive thing about a person is ALWAYS they're personality! (For me anyway) Just be kind, funny, happy and confident! I guarantee you will seem more attractive than the drop dead gorgeous arrogant arse next to you. And i'm not joking either.
A good haircut or style can do wonders for your look.
tink9995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have image issues, and one thing that I found that worked is feeling attractive. You have to own it, feel it, know you are an amazing person and it will shine through. I can always tell with pictures when I'm feeling insecure or if I feel good.
BebeGene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find things to be grateful for, gain confidence and self esteem...know that you are worth it no matter what you physically look like. Physically people will prefer different looks, but who you are to yourself as a person is more attractive. Looks are just instant gratification to people, getting to know someone who loves the self and others and is genuine can be long-lasting attraction. If you just want to turn heads and that 's it, then work out, diet, and wear skimpy clothes.
Get. Your suits. Tailored. Buy off the rack, get it a little bigger then find a seamstress to do alterations. You'll spend a couple dozen bucks but you'll look like you had something made for you. Ill-fitting suits make you look like a child who can't dress themselves.
slinning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just realized i changed a lot around 2 years ago, and now i check out at all the points listed here, and i have gained an extreme amount of female attention over the last year. These are really good tips, though i never really realized i changed like this before now.
bawzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take showers regularly, groom your face (of you keep a beard), get regular haircuts (don't wait 2 months in between), walk with your chin 90 degrees to the ground, and don't wear baggy clothes.
Shaylily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is directed to women and clothing. Just because it fits, it does not mean that you should wear it. Tight clothing accentuates the fat and makes you look terrible. One or two sizes up and they would look great. Also, comb your damn hair and stop doing those sloppy buns. For reference, I am a women.
Confident speech skills and not broadcasting your problems on others. Instead of complaining to people you meet about how your ex boyfriend was abusive, say "what's up y'all?" Have a conversation, not a rant.
Instead of answering right away, wait 3 "interruptions" before speaking. Works wonders
Elongate your neck when taking a photo, basically stick your chin out. It feels stupid but in the picture it looks better. People with double chins, this makes you look way more photogenic.
Exercise, dress well.
And the biggest one for me is to maintain your hair/beard (for guys, but I guess maintaining your hair works for girls too). It makes a huge difference for me to see a guy with a nice haircut.
Get your eyebrows waxed or threaded. Some people look really different after they get their brows cleaned up. Don't go overboard though, especially if you're a dude because that look is simply creepy. For an example take a look at the guy in The Mist, the military guy/hero/kid.
lizper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good hygiene, a good haircut and well-fitting clothes.
Don't be afraid to laugh at yourself. Embrace embarrassment. If you don't laugh it off, things will turn awkward and people will remember you for being awkward.
EliasDL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a haircut that fits your face. I have a relatively big head and always let my hair get pretty long, which made my head look even bigger and my face fatter.
Also, try to smile more. I have yet to meet someone who looks uglier when (s)he smiles.
Take up a new hobby, or focus more on one you already have. I fell in love with my ex partly because I saw how passionate he was about acting, and he'd read me bits out of books in different accents and we went to open mics together...it's very, very attractive when someone is really into something. Now excuse me while I surreptitiously cry into my sushi.
Carry yourself with self-respect and don't be a fake person. Sounds like bullshit, but most folks are attracted to stable and confident people. If anything, you'll learn how to like yourself.
5cilli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut your fingernails. I'm amazed at the amount of people I know (men and women) with lesbian pornstar length nails with enough dirt underneath them to cultivate a couple of rows of winter vegetables. Nasty.
Take pride in your appearance (shower and brush teeth daily, wearing nice clothes that fit goes a long way for improving both your physical appearance and the perception of those around you, SMILE, improve posture while sitting/standing/walking).
joeripz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a decent haircut at a salon or barber. If your out of middle school your mom shouldn't be cutting your hair
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truly smile. People can see if you're really feeling it when you're smiling, and it rubs off on those around you.
Get a haircut, trim your nails and brush your teeth. Deodorant isn't optional. Grooming is attractive. Take it to the next step and fix that unibrow, guys.
Be interested in the person with whom you're talking. Listen more than you talk, and ask questions about them.
Zanderth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're prone to stupid things just shut up abit and let other people talk do not be too opinionated on the other side if you're quiet speak up. Also try and follow a theme in what you wear smart, skater what ever. Always try to have some smart clothes though people do notice!
Get really good at something. It could be dancing, playing piano, or simply bouncing coins into mugs - few things are more attractive than a demonstration of uncommon skill.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of your teeth... which includes both flossing AND brushing properly and consistently
lose weight. this one is simple because dropping 2 lbs a month will add up over the course of a year - that's a slightly smaller meal twice a day, or one less soda.
fix your posture. i did this with partner dancing and weight lifting, both of which require good posture to do well.
1./Laughter is a lovely thing.
2./Take a moment to become more cultured.
3./Generosity makes for one fine specimen.
4./Walk with confidence and youโll feel foxy.
5./Sticking to Your Convictions.
6./Hey good-looking, do you work out?
7./Put good inside, and get a gorgeous glow.
too much .. ? want simple ? girl don't like skinny guys so get some workout everyday and you will get attractive .
Wear clothes that fit you. Not clothes that fit last year before you gained/lost 30 lbs. Clothes that fit you now. It will make you look so much more put together.
Keep your back straight, got to have good posture. Also smile and do not just feel confident, be confident in everything you do. People will take notice to someone who looks like they got their shit together.
Have a better posture. Don't slouch, don't stare at the ground, etc. Keep your back straight, look forward. Shoulders back. You'll look more confident.
Keep your hair tidy. Get a nice haircut. Comb it regularly, and/or use gel/hairspray. Doubly important if you're growing your hair long. If so, consider tying it back.
Shave! A little stubble's okay, but a forest of facial hair ain't always sexy, so take it off. If you're growing a beard, keep the rest of your face clean-shaven while making sure the beard is neatly trimmed.
Dress well, cuz as ZZ TOP put it - "They come runnin' just as fast as they can / 'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man." Leave the tshirts and the shabby jeans/cargo pants for when you're chilling with friends. Start wearing more collared shirts and khakis. Get some dress shirts. Head down to the suit stores, get fitted, and pick up one or two really nice suits. If you still like your jeans, grab some black jeans, or fancier blue jeans.
But most important of all - BATHE! Sure, you might LOOK nice. But if your stink's so bad that no one wants to be close to you... you're fucking up. Shampoo/Conditioner! Soap/Body Wash! Deodorant! Toothpaste/mouthwash! Shower/bathtub! All that stuff isn't in the bathroom for no reason!
TL;DR: Don't look like a slob, dress well, and don't stink.
Wear clothes that fit you well, whatever your style is. Baggy or to tight doesn't look well.
I'd also suggest you invest in skin and hair care. I don't mean like visiting the stylist all the time, but dry flaky skin or greasy hair if you have the power to change it just makes you look gross. (Folks with skin/hair conditions not included, you'll have you're own care methods).
Smile a lot!
Use cologne, a person who smells good is x10 attractive.
Use nice, stylish clothes that fit your shape.
Get a flattering haircut.
Good hygiene (that should go without saying).
Even if that means having to throw a little gel in, a beanie on, throw it in a ponytail or bun. Just don't leave the house like you woke up and left.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean. Good breath and teeth too, no point showering a lot if you don't look after those too.. Dress well. Smile a lot. Be open minded and not stubborn.
Even an ugly guy (Like me) can do these things, and they really help a lot...
Be mindful of how much makeup you wear! The goal of makeup is not to create a mask but to enhance natural beauty! And make sure your makeup actually matches your skin and tone...there should be no line where your makeup stops under your chin...and it doesn't help to just extend your makeup down your neck...it will just make you look old and weird (unless you are a supermodel who has the advantage of being airbrushed). And if you still don't know what to do...promptly visit a Bare Minerals boutique...that stuff is amazing!
Take improv comedy classes to be a better conversationalist. I'm serious. It basically teaches you to deal with tension, weird scenarios, and silence. And it also teaches you to open up and adequately explore topics in an interesting way. Going into a date, you have no idea what you're going to talk about (usually... unless you're an alien studying humans), which makes you nervous and anxious and uppity or w/e. Improv helps you REACT to what's being said in the moment, whether that's an emotional or intellectual response. When you react (hopefully genuinely) you seem more engaging and interested, and honestly, just taking a topic to some sort of limit/conclusion usually results in a shared laugh or idea AKA a connection. 1) study improv 2) talk gooder 3) ... 4) Profit
Lose weight. It's really not hard, you'll look better, and you'll feel better. If you feel better, your confidence will go up, and guess what else goes up with confidence? Attraction. It's really a double whammy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For guys, before I started doing this I would maybe get a oh you got a haircut etc comment every now and then, but next time you get your haircut ask your barber to just trim down your eyebrows a little bit. It's very subtle and I'll be damned since doing this people are more perceptive and are like oh you got a haircut etc.
Getting my eyebrows done, wearing anything in my favorite color and put on goodbye horses by q lazzurus and tell myself in the mirror " I'd fuck me" before going out
dont have bad gramma or typos or bad spelling on the Internet.
seasond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trolling hard
CXPR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this may not apply but i make sure my hairline is perfectly straight, i also like to have my eyebrows shaped up(not arched). may seem a little feminine but it creates a higher degree of facial symmetry.
Get a good job, have a decent car, don't be fat. Especially the first one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell yourself that you're attractive. Both girls and guys do this thing where they feel sorry for themselves for an endless amount of reasons. That's really unattractive. Nobody likes listening to it and it's really takes from your swag or your demeanor or whatever you like to call it.
Simply take care of yourself. If you do all the things you ought to do to be healthy and give yourself a chance at happiness, you'll carry yourself in a way that is subtly and naturally attractive.
I'm a skateboarder. Its hard to retrain yourself not to look at the ground. Even when not skating. Its there you find something to find to... Jump over. Haha.
Change your hair once in a while. I didn't realize the difference that made until after I changed the hairstyle I had had for three years and my appearance seemed much more mature and people even came up to me to acknowledge it!
Do you bite your nails? Stop biting your nails. People notice.
Do your clothes match? If you don't know, ask someone. Clashing clothes look bad, regardless of how expensive and high quality they are.
Your clothes should be fitted to your body type. If you're slim, the clothes should show that. However, if you're large, your stomach should not be hanging out of your shirt. Button downs might be tricky. Look at sweaters and quarter zips. In the right patterns, they might conceal some areas you might be self conscious about.
If you're a girl, learn to apply makeup properly if you're going to wear it. Badly applied makeup makes you look like the corner prostitute. If you don't wear makeup, maybe consider it. I think of it like a cheat code for my face and I'm sure as shit gonna take that opportunity.
Accessorize. Whether you're male or female, accessories add a little something to your ensemble that just shows that you're well put together.
Smell good. Don't shower in perfume/cologne. If people can smell you five feet away, you're doing something wrong.
Wash your face. Regularly. I'm not stupid enough to think that all acne can be solved by washing your face a few extra times, but I can say for sure that some people don't wash their face enough, and that using a soap specially made for your face makes a huge difference.
Moisturize. Lotion up after your shower every day. You'll feel like a soft little angel after a while. Moisturizer for your face is needed, don't try to use regular lotion on your face, you will regret it.
I'm sure there's more, but if you start with these things, you're on the right track. Add in some exercise and you're golden.
Good posture. Head up, shoulders back, stand tall. It will make you look more attractive and confident.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more. So many people have a beautiful smile and you would never know because they're always scowling.
Zyrokya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exfoliate your face and don't pick at your face! If you have acne try not to pick it. ESPECIALLY DONT PICK INGROWN HAIRS IF THEY ARE DEEP, you will end up regretting the act of picking once you realize that all the blood and the new scab you made looks worse.
Gisbeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cover my face
sonictea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyebrows are so important. At LEAST get them groomed. That's seriously all I ask of a person, they can make or break your face.
Do push ups every morning after you wake up and every night before you go to sleep. If you don't exercise at all you will see a change in your physique in 2 weeks.
FatPinch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be in shape. You don't have to be super ripped or a body builder or anything, but just being generally healthy, as in not overweight and working out regularly. For two reasons, aesthetic purposes, and working out regularly will generally put you in a better mood over all.
-Groom your head-hair (shave it off if you've got a bad receding hairline)
-Consider growing (or shaving/grooming) facial hair; 5 o'clock shadow can be a nice touch
-Wear nice smelling cologne (but not too much!! Just a dash)
-Go to a spa and get a skin treatment
-Cut and groom your finger and toenails. A surprising amount of women look at men's hands and nails to judge their attractiveness.
Hope this helps!
bob493 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets see... of the things you physically have control over... remember, most of this is subjective, and Im mostly using generalities.
1) Don't dress like a slob. Yes taste is subjective, but it's not gonna kill you to get some nice clothes. No you dont need to spend a billion dollars, you can get "off brand" nicer clothes. The only "expensive" clothes you should buy are shoes... because that saves you money in the long run.
2) posture was mentioned a lot, but dont go around "strutting" like a peacock either. Theres a fine line between "confident" and "douchebag".
3) lose weight if youre chubby, or gain muscle if youre scrawny. This is a 3 hour topic on its own, so I'll leave you to it. A scrawny dude with "abs" is about the same as a fat chick with big boobs, imo.
4) Do your f-ing hair nicely. My god, the sheer amount of people I see with tumbleweeds in their hair is astonishing. Its not a "good look" for anyone.
5) cleanliness/smell. Aka brush your teeth and find some decent cologne you like. Dont wear the same clothes for 3 days in a row, and it helps to look like you showered lol.
wip30ut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you're a guy with imperfect skin or over 30 and showing the signs of aging, try BB cream. It's like a concealer, but isn't heavy like women's foundation.
secondly, get your button-up shirts tailored by a seamstress. Instead of having shirts hang off your frame like they're 2 sizes too big or markdowns from TJ Max they'll look like custom-fitted shirts. It makes you look sharper.
End it all!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Just kidding. Maybe look people in the eye, present yourself with confidence, acknowledge and laugh off your flaws, ask people about themselves and be kind and thoughtful.
Sometimes, being attractive isn't just about physical appearance. I landed a beautiful wife just by being kindhearted and making her laugh.
I have always gone with be clean and well groomed and have nice fitting clothes and good shoes and above all smile and look people in the eyes.
Who doesn't find those characteristics attractive? No one goes around saying they are attracted to dirty unkempt people in ugly bad fitting clothes who frown all day.
vegeta10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but unfortunately, everywhere you look; some beautiful girl is with a loser exactly as you described. It's shocking.
Matt2486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Honestly, dress like you give a damn. Just notice trends. There are so many classic style options that are timeless. Well fitting jeans, a nice fitted knit sweater, a peacoat, and some nice boots or tennis shoes (check out topshop) look great together. Buy some fiber from Crew for you hair. Get a bottle of Armani Code and spray it twice, but no more, once you have your clothes all on. You will look better, smell better, and feel better. You will be more confident and, as a byproduct of this confidence, you will be more productive in life in general. Also, start every day with a shower. Seems like this should go without saying, but I'm starting to think it needs to be said.
mecrosis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit and match. Yes even tshirts have a "fit".
Wash your clothes! Do your damn laundry! I used to work with a guy who smelled like when you itch your scalp when your hair is greasy and then sniff your hands. I could smell his scalp smell from across the room.
One simple thing. Self confidence. There is nothing more attractive than someone that exudes self confidence. Not arrogance, confidence. Folks on here have asked, "How can I ask someone out that out of my league?" The first way is to quit thinking that they're out your league. CONFIDENCE.
Spend $15 more and get a haircut at an actual barber shop.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut that fits your head shape and cleans up your look. Lots of resources out there to do this. Just search face shapesand then hair styles. Theres sources on reddit too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress nicely, have confidence (and if you don't, fake it til you make it), talk to people without having the intent of hooking up with them. As a guy, you'll have a lot wider of a variety of partners to pick from if just engage them in a conversation, rather then blatantly hitting on them.
Be genuinely interested in learning about other people before talking about yourself.
Old_Grau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(Men) Get a 50 dollar hair cut with a massage and a beer. Serious. It will change your life. Also, buy designer well fitting jeans at a second hand place. Don't be afraid to embarrass yourself by asking for help as this small moment will change your life.
First off ditch those pajama pants, they're not appropriate attire for being in public. Next bath regularly and use deodorant, why you wouldn't already be doing this is beyond me but it's a common problem. Finally wear clean cloths that aren't greasy to the touch and be nice, that snarky attitude just makes you look like a cunt.
Hope that helps Op.
padvondo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Push ups and Pull ups. A simple regimen everyday will better your posture, help your chest, back, shoulders, and forearms all start to look better, and give you confidence.
r0cx89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Completly agree this will do wonders for you're health and self-esteem the amount of people who just shit and do nothing it saddens me.
Im going to describe this as modestly and humbly as possible, but ive done just a few minor tweak and peaks to myself and ive had significantly positive results
(1) Personal care...First and foremost not the gym(well yes but not what im getting at).
(A) Styling your hair, and taking care of it. Use shampoo and conditioner, find a haircut that suits your face and personality, if you have facial hair make sure it looks good AND IT SUITS YOU. Some people just cant do the beard. Also get some nice cloths, if you don't have a sense of style like myself then I bet a friend or coworker does. You always want to over dress then under
(B) Fitness- You do not need to be a gym rat. Eat semi right, drink semi less, go for a run and gym 3 times a week. You don't need to be the hulk but women like men who take care of themselves
(C)Knowledge- Read, write, explore. No one likes an idiot. Develop some hobbies make yourself interesting. You cant expect people to want you if you don't want you.
(D)Confidence- This will be the hardest one. Some people are born with natural confidence others(like myself) have worked very very hard in order to build it.
A quick background about me, I grew up a socially awkward, obese kid with little to no friends from a broken home. It took me a long time to get where I am now. I was lucky enough, once I dropped all my weight and got in shape, I was an average looking male. But ive recently started doing the above and had a noticeably more successful time dating and receiving more compliments It seems like a lot but a lot of these things have subreddits and helpful tips.
Surely follow rule 2 is the only advice needed here.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lose weight
Noninex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get yourself some nice, comfortable shoes. They don't even have to be dress shoes or anything like that. Even Vans will work. You'd be amazed at how many compliments burgundy vans will snag you. Girls notice shoes for some reason, and I'd definitely rather them notice clean, well kept shoes than dirty, worn sneakers.
Start going to the gym.
Going to the gym is not hard. You go there, you pick stuff up, you put it down. Walk a little on treadmill. Treat it like a playground rather than a gym.
From there, read a little bit about gym, or pay a coach.
Gymming is simple.
That's because lots of people try to start out, while comparing themselves to Arnold, or "a end result" they want.
They don't realize that what you do at first, and what you do when you get more experienced are two completly different things.
Trying to start working out, with a 2 week split, HIIT, is not how you start out.
Starting out is "read about calories and go play outside".
Recently I have stopped going to the gym because I realized it was a crutch. You know, for me to have that one large soda, for me to eat that greasy burger,just because it's "gym day." Now I just do a small simple regimen at home and avoid most fats and sugars, leading to me being more attentative to my hygiene and keeping that up to par as well.
MZ603 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ex-girlfriend is one of the wisest young women I know, and she came up with some of the best advice I've ever heard for men who are struggling with this, and I'm excited to share it with you.
You need to communicate only two things:
1) She is safe with you.
2) You are interested in being more than friends.
"Nice guys" communicate 1, but not 2. "Creepy guys" communicate 2, but not 1. Neither gets laid. Communicate those two things successfully, and you'll be way ahead.
For the long term:
1) Learn to meditate. To whatever degree you blame yourself, turn it into responsibility -- it may be your fault, but you can do something about it. I've literally been on this exact journey, and meditation was a huge help. If you've already done some research on 'how to be attractive' and whatnot online, and you're having trouble making progress with that stuff, meditation may be the key.
2) Focus on improving yourself and doing the stuff you want to do. Trying to attract women is like trying to fall asleep -- the harder you try, the more impossible it is. You have to just do stuff that makes you tired/do stuff that makes you attractive. The good news is, if you already have stuff you want to do, you can just do it! This is NOT "giving up"; it's "building the ship."
You have to build your own "ship of happiness" to invite women aboard; you can't ask a woman to be your ship.
2A) Focus on making good male friends and establishing bonds of respect with fellow men. Earn the respect of men, and you'll get the respect of women. There's bound to be some area of your life where you're passionate or skilled or smart enough to organize something, to try to make some vision come true through a collective effort. (This must piggyback on #2, you can't lead men 'because it will attract women.' You have to actually want the thing to happen.)
A lot of people in this thread are suggesting other short-term things, like focusing on your strong physical traits. This is useful to an extent, but be careful.
It can be a lot harder and require a lot more courage to let short-term stuff go, but work on the long-term principles, and the short-term specifics will fall into place. Trying to engineer the long term by tampering with the short term will likely result in tangling yourself up in self-consciousness. The "how's my hair" rabbit hole is infinitely deep.
Being in this situation turned out to be the greatest gift I ever got -- so few people know what I know, having been through that, and I have skills and sensitivity that most people never need to develop. You will too on the other side of this.
That is one anyone can accomplish. When you start feeling good about youself and arent a douche about it, people tend to want to be around you more. Doing most of these things outlined in other comments will build confidence also.
No one outside of highschool wants to be around the guy staring at the ground who cant make eye contact and constantly bashes themselves.
SMILE!!!!!!!!! Everyone looks more attractive and approachable with a smile on their face. It makes you feel better and smiling at a stranger always makes their day. It's contagious!!! :)
Posture, hygiene, confidence, nice clothes, not saying anything fancy or the sort, just form fitting.
Maraval ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth. Two or three times a day, certainly after meals and before bedtime. Floss. Get routine dental checkups and cleanings. You may not have a smile like a supermodel, but neither do you want your mouth to look and smell like a pit of horror in the middle of your face.
Focus your attention on getting enough sleep every day for a month.
Emerlees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sound conceded, but I believe that fashion plays a huge role not only on how others perceive you but also how you perceive yourself. I always feel more confident when I dress nicely and in a fashionable way.
For guys: get a good haircut. If you don't know what you're doing and haven't had a haircut/trim for a few months, you're doing it wrong. It might be cliche, but yes, long top short sides works for almost every guy. It's one of the only thing you can do to actually improve how your face look.
Be interesting! What I mean by that is, be interested in others and in return, they will be more interested in you. Of course it never hurts to be natively interesting, but you have to start somewhere.
Give a damn about your clothing. Stores have big clearance sales several times a year where you can build up a wardrobe for very cheap. So price really isn't an excuse.
Take time to put together things that look good and iron that shit. Wear clothing that fits you. You can be wearing the finest clothing in the land, but if they are hanging off your body poorly and wrinkled, they will look like shit. This is the image you are presenting to the world, take some pride in it and put some effort into it.
I know some people really hate the process of shopping but it's important. The fact of the matter is, your clothing do say something about you. It is your first impression to the people you meet before a word ever comes out of your mouth. I have been offered several jobs from people in informal settings like bars because the person complimented my attire, the conversation we had showed me to be competent, and they then mentioned their place of business was hiring. Just like people who speak well, people who dress well are thought of as more capable by others. That first moment to impress a person is one you will never get back, so why start every interaction you have with other people at a deficit you must now overcome, instead of at an advantage that boosts you up higher?
Make female friends and go out with them. Don't ruin it by catching feelings for these women though, DON'T. Go out with them to clubs, bars, parties and get togethers. This will increase your perceived value and women will flock to you. It's insane how much easier the game got once I made a few female friends and started going out to chill with them.
DaneMac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spend some decent money on a haircut. This is your body we are talking about. A $10 haircut is going to look like a $10 haircut. If you really can't afford to go to a proper barber/salon find a friend or a friend of a friend who works at one and ask them if they can cut your hair outside of work. They'll usually be happy to because they make more money even though you're spending less.
Wear a button up shirt and a tie. Works wonders for me.
zehflash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygiene....shower daily, put some stuff in your hair and buy some expensive cologne / perfume that you like. It takes me a half hour to get ready in the morning and i get plenty of compliments on my looks / smell and it honestly doesn't cost me much time or money.
wreck3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard giving people ghb will make you appear more attractive, but I haven't had a chance to test this theory...
Elviti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be passionate. A lot of people have said hobbies and I completely agree, but also if you're on a topic of conversation you know or are interested in, be passionate. Makes for far better and longer lasting conversations I've found. If someone is passionate about a topic I have zero interest in, I will very happily have a long conversation because of the vibes they give off.
Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The easiest answer is if you are overweight lose some weight. We are not beautiful and healthy at every weight. I'm not saying be a stick figure. I'm saying most people could lose 10-20 pounds and it would only take 3-6 months tops. You'll have more energy, be happier naked and generally perform better in bed.
My second simple tip is get some sun, go outside and do stuff. Outside hobbies are often attractive hobbies because they have you out in the world instead of hiding from it. I like to take day hikes, powerlift, sperg online and play video games. I'd talk more about the first two. Also going outside helps with weight loss.
Be clean and look like you pay attention to your grooming. Have a beard? That's cool trim your neck and cheeks. Trim it down, unless you're built like a lumberjack a huge beard is silly. Bathe daily, try a gentle exfoliant on your face once in a while. Keep them nails pretty.
Legit though try that coconut oil swishing shit, I thought it was by but gave it a shot, teeth got brighter, and breath was fresh all day long after a couple days.
evs212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop drinking
raosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Criticize others, be mean to those weaker than you, brag constantly and ruthlessly deny anyone other than you a moment in the spot light at all times for the rest of your life.
Okay, all joking aside, see how far you can get by just being comfortable in your skin. And clean up and take care of your body, with the minimum being good healthy hygiene and up to and including regular exercise. Even if it's simple body weight exercises in your bedroom with cheap and/or improvised (but safe!) equipment.
To the men out there, respect women. Treat and see them as equals. Women are people, not machines where you press the right button and sex comes out. Get to know them personally, not all women are the same (and don't read askmen or other bs like that). My life has become immensely better since I started respecting women.
Stay off your computer, keep clean shaven, ask questions in conversation, breathe slower, talk slower, walk confidently, keep eye contact, stay positive, smoke weed when no one's looking, smile more, wash your face, keep a tidy-ish hair cut. All will make you much more attractive.
I know that I'm late but one thing that no one has said is to look for your nervous ticks (like cracking your knuckles, fidgeting with your hair, messing with your clothes, checking your phone, etc...) And stop doing them. It's so much more attractive and you seem confident.
ajstraw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. If I see someone walking down the street looking unhappy and not making eye contact with anyone I immediately get put off. If I see someone smiling and making eye contact with me or other random strangers I automatically am more drawn to them, and more likely to engage with them.
Smile. Even when you have no reason you should smile, really mean it though it makes you more open and friendly. Also practice good posture and try and be confident. I started doing all of this around August and I feel great and have some cool new friends.
Lift Weights. 3x a week, 45 minutes per session, start with very light weight, slowly but consistently increase weight. Even if you do nothing to change your diet, your body will look and feel a lot better.
Just watch the movie Rushmore and try to incorporate some of the independence of interest displayed by the main character, Max. Just get involved with something, show some passion and give an air that its possibly the most important thing anyone can be doing--without arguing for it.
Massage your face a bit every morning with a little avocado oil or moisturizer (or nothing if you want). It stimulates your cells giving your face an awake and healthy look.
Also drink lots of water when you wake up.
GoHiroki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sunscreen. Your 40 year old self will thank you. Also, melanoma sucks and chemo is a great way to ruin the appearance.
The best way to bring your shoulders back and give you better posture is by doing back and shoulder workouts like rows, if you only focus on chest workouts, the stronger chest muscles will pull your shoulders forward. Also for lower back pain and also to improve posture abs are critical, stronger and will pull your core together and straighten out your back reducing back pain while improving posture. Neither of these will be immediate but will happen over several weeks
Keep your hands clean and your fingernails neat, clean, and trimmed appropriately. Nothing grosser than hands with hangnails all over the place, dirt under the fingernails, uneven/jagged nails - it's gross and distracting.
This doesn't mean you have to have a regular manicure - just wash your hands regularly, use a toothpick or something else to get anything stuck under your fingernails out, and use hand lotion. That's all. Not difficult and not expensive.
I can think someone is pretty attractive and be interested in talking to them more - but then if I look down and see that he has gross hands, ew. Dealbreaker.
DuoThree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen. And show interest in what is being said. People love to feel like what they're saying is interesting, and you might learn something new. I've been amazed at how much this works in any situation.
Physically speaking though: (for men)
Be clean but be careful not to look overly manicured. I personally dislike when a guy looks like he took longer to get ready than I did. (That may sound/be sexist, but hey).
Be/look relaxed. Or pretend to be relaxed. Though I'm not sure how simple that is (not easy for me but I try).
If it's really smelly down there after a day/night at work, it needs a really good scrubbing. Taint, crotch, everything. Get a good washcloth with a bit of soap and just bare down and reef on the scrubbing. Basically sanding off a layer of grossness.
As a dude getting older, getting a somewhat stylish haircut can make a big difference. I recently got a decent fade with a razor cut part and a beard trim that matched up. I also make sure to keep the beard moisturized and combed. The wife was very pleased and it feels nice when that whole deal looks sharp.
As is said in this thread already: confidence is key.
A trick to feigning confidence is a simple body language trick. Use your arms to take up more "territory", like putting your arm on the empty chair next to you for example. Dont overdo it, though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whiten your teeth. Don't go buy the expensive box kits that promise results in a few hours. Get the cheap off brand that you put on for 30 minutes for 5-7 days. You might not think it's noticeable when your done but other people will.
apc0243 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile and project self confidence. I find girls that self deprecate insanely unattractive. I don't care what you think about yourself when you stare in the mirror, telling me about your flaws doesn't make you "cute," it comes off as needy and narcissistic.
You're talking to someone else, and all you can think to talk about is yourself? Jesus christ, get a fuckin hobby or something.
raxtich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clean, properly fitting clothes. Don't slouch. Speak clearly and confidently (but not arrogantly). Brush your damn teeth. Learn how to tell a story. Learn how to laugh at yourself.
Take care of yourself I'm not saying go full makeup daily. I'm saying take a bath, trim your nails, wear deodorant, keep your hair neat, brushed and washed. Just have a tidy appearance in general and smell like you haven't had a bath since last spring.
raszio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile when you greet people. It's free and makes everone's lives more enjoyable.
Personal hygiene, keep yourself groomed, work on your self esteem and become more confident
Forky7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't lie.
Smubii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel the need to socially 1 up someone. If someone tells a story of an accomplishment, just be congratulative. You'll come off as a douche so fast.
Workout a few times a week for 30+ minutes. Do some cardio and lift some weights (or bodyweight) like squats, bench press, deadlift, and dips. Best investment you can ever make.
Learn how to be comedic. There isn't a person in the world that doesn't like to laugh. In fact, in most polls asked to women about what the most important qualities in a man are to them, the ability to make them laugh is generally in the top 3. And also, make sure you smile and laugh a lot as well. It shows that you're not an uptight prick and that you like to have a good time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pay attention to your appearance and groom yourself accordongly. Shower, brush your teeth, if you have facial hair that doesn't look good on you, shave it off or trim it until it looks better. Find a cologne that isn't too powerful and blends well with your personal pheremones, you need to spray a bit on your skin and wait about ten or more minutes before you decide whether or not to buy. Use deodorant.
Dress yourself in a more attractive manner. If you don't pay attention to how you dress, start. If money is an issue for buying nicer clothes, go to a local thrift store, you can often find very nice clothing that is now very affordable.
Work out. Even if you don't get shredded you will feel better about yourself, and confidence is attractive.
Ask your most honest friend what they think you could do to make yourself more attractive to other people; sometimes other people notice things about us that we don't notice about ourselves.
Talk a little proper. People pay attention to how we talk, sometimes cussing less and using less slang goes a long way in changing perception.
It boils down to: Dress better, smell better, talk better, better yourself physically, and get an honest opinion.
If you are wealthy, just pay an attractive professional actor to be your permanent stand in.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lift, eat right, have lots of money, an extensive social circle, be confident, etc.
glenngut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Smile. Not randomly or constantly. But those moments when you look around and make eye contact with people, smile.
EDIT: Also, just be aware of what your face is doing in general.
Take care of your feet. If you take your socks off to reveal sharp, jagged toenails and toe jam, that is an instant turn-off.
NPVT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are not going to be attractive to all people. But I like several things, including having a sense of humor and being happy. People don't like depressing or unhappy people. Having a lot of money makes you more attractive to certain types of people.
Dress properly.
This includes. Dress for the body you have, not the one you want/think you have.
and dress the impress and dress for the job you want etc etc
You're not unattractive because you're fat, you're unattractive because you're trying to squeeze into clothes 2 sizes to small.
Learn what your attributes are and dress those up, while camoing the bits of you you're less happy about (large thighs? don't squeeze into short shorts. Big butt/hips wear flare dresses that cinch at the waist and then flow over the butt area. flat chested? push up bra, or enjoy the freedom that comes with less boob and wear a plunge neckline. Big boobs? make sure you're not busting out the top/dress, this might mean a large size. Blokes buy the right size, don't be afraid of fitted shirts just because you carry a little extra, the worst thing you can do it 'hide' inside a giant ass t shirt)
Sometimes in life dressing comfy is more important, no one is saying you should go hiking in a fancy dress and heels, but if you're going somewhere you wanna look and feel attractive, dress like the kind of person you want to be, even if you think your not it.
You want your boss to consider you for promotion? dress like a manager, skirt/blouse nice dress, suit etc
Want to attract a classy dude, don't dress trashy.
The more you do it, the more it becomes second nature, and before you realise your comfy clothes WILL be a nice dress, or skirt/blouse etc Jeans will be something you throw on when you're around the house or popping to the shops and even then they're paired with a nice top and boots.
And actually once people start noticing and complimenting you on your clothes it's a massive boost to your confidence and that in turns makes you happier to take a few more chances with clothing, and in general confidence = attractive.
Pomade, using it really boosts my confidence and it makes you pay attention to your hair/haircut.
I buy Old Spice's spiffy pomade for casual days and more expensive brands for those special days. For six-twenty bucks per canister it's an almost priceless confidence booster that only takes about five to ten minutes every morning.
Squid25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, smile, smile. Even when you're on the phone. Your energy is more upbeat and positive if you smile. A smile is an invitation. So smile.
leetee91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The secret to life is being sweet.
doonkune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wear clothes that fit
Squid25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put a potato in your pants.
Methuus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
joh2141 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh posture was something that came naturally working out with correct form. Of course some people will have to put more effort into it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Vatrumyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suck my gut in. I'm not fat but I have a bit of a belly that I can "fake" to look good under clothes. Other than that I also brush my hair and beard so I look well kept and not a psycho hobbo that meandered on campus.
Sleep. A regular sleeping regiment can help you control eating habits, affect your mood, make you obviously more alert and witty, and makes your skin look better. When healthy living is a goal, this should be number one on your list.
ROK247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
win the powerball
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haircut! yes yes yes. can't overstate that one. a decent haircut, esp for a guy, is super-important. if long hair, neat and well-kept, not sticking out all over and looking like you just got dragged through a hedge backwards. same with beard!
Halfway decent clothing! it doesn't need to be fancy but a decent button-up shirt and jeans that fit and flatter, plus regular leather shoes in good shape. let's just say quality clothing that fits and flatters. (E.G. my guy likes to wear clothes that fit him 50 lbs ago. luckily that's not ALL The time.)
Guero76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a better hair cut
Honestly I change my hair cut and style and I noticed I got more looks from people, also got a bunch of compliments on how well it looked
Running has been shown to even your skintone, which people associate with health. Meditation makes you more calm and happy, which people associate with status. And it also makes you more fun to be around, which is its own reward.
Caforiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are PLENTY of things you can do to be more attractive, and it doesn't matter how "ugly" you perceive yourself to be because 99% of the time if you put a little work in it makes a ton of difference.
For guys:
-style your hair a bit. It doesn't have to be some elaborate hairdo but take some of that clay they sell in stores and slick it to the side/back
-wear khakis. Yes, jeans are acceptable for a casual look, but to look attractive and professional khakis are the way to go. Just make sure you-
- wear Vans shoes. If you wear khakis with tennis shoes you look like a dad.
-purchase a good quality jacket if you have the money. I recently saved up money from work to treat myself to a good quality jacket and I've gotten numerous compliments from a lot of girls
-wear good shirts. It doesn't have to be a dress shirt but avoid the faded t-shirts
-color match. Never wear black on black unless you're in a tuxedo or something. Always try to match things and if you can't get a grasp on it, ask a female friend.
-CONFIDENCE IS KEY! Yes, it sounds cheesy and cliche but it really is the key to so many things. But remember that there's a fine like between confidence and arrogance. You want to walk with your head up and a SLIGHT swagger, but not an exaggerated movement of the shoulders which suggests you think you're better than everyone else
For girls:
-NEVERRRR wear too much makeup. A little bit of eyeliner and whatever else girls wear is fine, but making your face look like you took a paint brush and smeared it on your face not only doesn't make you attractive, it makes you unattractive
-wear things that accentuate your body. I don't mean to wear a skimpy top and see through tights or some hoe thing like that, but try to find things that really bring out the curves. If you're not blessed with big boobs or a big butt, FEAR NOT! I know plenty of guys who prefer small boobs/butts. If you have a little bit of fat and you're a bit chunky, also FEAR NOT! I and a lot of guys love the extra-womanly taste it brings to a girl. Obviously though you can't be morbidly obese so don't lie to yourself if you think you are actually fat. I don't want anyone reading this to think it's okay to be fat fat (unless you have a condition like my best friend does), because it can lead to so many unfortunate medical complications that you don't need.
-maroon is a color that always looks really nice on girls. I read somewhere that red clothing makes girls more attractive for some reason
-don't be a bitch. I don't care how big a girls tits are or how pretty she is, if I don't like her I don't talk to her, and plenty of guys think like that
-finally, CONFIDENCE IS KEYYYYYYYY. While it is cute (at least to me) when a girl has low self-esteem and is kinda shy, it is so sexy when a girl loves her body and walks around like she doesn't give a damn because she knows she's hot. Even if you aren't naturally too attractive it still increases your attractiveness EXPONENTIALLY.
End note:
I know plenty of girls who I thought at first (upon meeting them a few years ago when we were all in middle school) who were very unattractive. But once they started doing the stuff above I really started to notice them and some girls have gone from (to put it bluntly) "disgusting" to "Jesus she is HOT!".
It sounds like such a simple thing, but so many people do NOT do this. Showing a genuine interest in what someone has to say, listening, and having an insightful comment in return is something that not only makes you far more attractive to others, but can help you succeed in other areas as well.
Shaggy hair and a patchy beard don't look good. Get a decent haircut and trim your beard into something presentable. I'm not saying you need to be clean shaven, but keep it in check.
VA1KYR13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes you feel good in. Feeling confident makes you look confident and looking confident is attractive. Find a style you like and stick with it.
JDGamers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
RaylordC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is very simple to answer.
Don't be overweight or underweight, exercise and be healthy
Being pale doesn't often work so get a tan
Good Hygiene
Dress in clothes that suit you, ask people's opinion that are popular for style advice
Smile, see a dentist if required
If you have acne fix it
If your a girl learn how to do your make up
Get your hair done at a place that is to expensive
Be well groomed
If all this is difficult you could just find a way to be rich
ask a feminine homosexual male and do everything they tell you
Practice good hygiene, have better posture, and get clothes that actually fit your body type. This, along with the confidence boost that this combination should give you, will instantly make you more attractive.
katamac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being polite. Even something as simple as saying please, thanks, excuse me, etc..
divi8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a male I've learned to cut my own hair. I do it once a week and I ALWAYS look sharp like I just had my hair cut!
Also, never stare. Don't let people know that you obviously want them. Confidence is sexy.
Exercise even slightly. It doesn't have to be some insane ultra-marathon training, but just DO SOMETHING to the best of your ability. Not even just for weight management, but for self-confidence, skin health, etc.
Close your lips and put your tongue on the roof of your mouth. This is the most natural oral posture and it can greatly improve the tension on your facial muscles and make you more attractive on the long run. It's especially effective to children around 7-9, but it works for adults too. I've been telling all of my family and friend this since I started doing this following the instruction of John and Mike Mew, and have got great results in just months. Search Orthotropics on Youtube for more info.
Dress nice as often as you can. Even if you are just briefly going out among people, dress well. When you dress well, you will feel a lot more confident and people will see that you care about how you look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout
Eat Healthy
Learn how to groom yourself
Take good care of your skin
Stop drinking alcohol
I don't know how easy or simple these things are for other people, but I made these things habits, so I do them automatically with almost no effort.
Graenea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a care in your appearance. You don't have to get all spiffed up but even taking a shower and wearing clean clothes will make you seem more attractive.
Take care of yourself. In my opinion, someone who takes care of themself seems far more attractive than someone who doesn't.
Admittedly I'm guilty of this from time to time, but try not to constantly one-up someone in a conversation, unless you think it'll add to it or keep the discussion going.
Basically, don't try to be the center of discussion at all times.
e39dinan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't farmer blow onto a wood floor in front of your wife after getting out of the shower and walking across the bedroom naked. It might induce vomiting.
Get strong. Applies to the fellas and the ladies. Pays dividends in many of the other areas mentioned (better posture, better fitting clothes, etc). Being strong and fit sends better signals about reproductive fitness to members of the opposite sex. (Note: this isn't "be a body builder". Just do some bodyweight fitness. Take the stairs. No need to get swole.)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put on weight. That way your gravitational pull is greater.
Or eat magnets. Whatever works.
dazedwit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For men, don't wear wrinkled clothes.
For females, paint your toe nails.
volvos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear glasses - my friend calls them sixers because they turn fours into sixes and eights in to sixes
Approach everyone as if they are a long term friend. Treat people kindly, until they prove that they have no desire to reciprocate that. Not being a dick goes a long way.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise? Its simple, but it takes time and dedication, which is probably not what op is looking for.
Wear clothes that fit you properly! This makes a massive, massive difference. You will feel more confident as a result as well,which in turn helps even more.
Unfortunately if you can't afford high end designers (not many can), then it usually takes time to shop around and get a wardrobe of well-fitting clothes (especially for men, as lots of manufacturers seem to think it doesn't matter to us) but it's definitely worth it.
hojimbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
make eye contact when you talk to someone
generally be positive in the way you discuss things. Positivity is way more attractive than negativity
moisturize your face. Dry skin has a profound effect
stand tall and look around at the world
buy clothing that fits well. No matter your size, it just takes some effort to hunt for stuff that was made for your body type. There are subreddits that will help you out
smile
when talking to people, listen to them and respond to what they say
when responding to people, don't tell stories about people you know. Tell stories about yourself, or give your thoughts on something. People don't care about people you know, they are talking to you
don't spend much time looking at your phone
spend less time at home and/or in front of a computer. This usually makes you build more interests, which makes you more interesting.
Finally, and it's an obvious one: make health a pillar of your life. Eat well, move often. It improves your physical appearance and your mood.
There is nothing more attractive than a beautiful breakfast, or a well-prepared dinner for two, or a large dinner party with family/friends. If you have the best cooked dish at a potluck, you are de-facto the sexiest person in the room.
Malinut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Play the guitar.
Look girls in the eye, or the lips, but not the chest.
Express confidence, even if you have to hide nervousness by masking it as enthusiasm.
Never talk about money.
Read books.
Become educated.
Behave with probity and dignity.
Be yourself.
or
Drink/swear/fight and get lots of tattoos.
SPectrXX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A very simple, one has been missed here: get a tailor.
That doesn't mean have all your close made to order. It means go buy your clothes knowing your going to spend an extra $15 in tailoring per item. Personally, I buy 80% of my stuff at Ross/Marshalls/TJM and get it all tailored. The total cost is less than buying a designer and looks better too
Work the fuck out. You don't have to be Swolly McSwollerson, but for fuck sake run a few miles a week, swim, do push-ups, sit-ups, stretch, anything. Most of my fellow Americans look like malnourished, dying piles of turds. And I don't mean malnourished in that you're not eating enough, you definitely are, but you look pastey and gray and you can barely walk a mile without huffing and puffing and you can't even touch your fucking toes. Eat some vegetables and do a few free squats, you need it.
Well, there goes any chance I have of being more attractive.
Kabufu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a puppy, or a baby. Doesn't even have to be yours. Just go out to the park and play with it. Make sure it is adorable. Extra points if you're an otherwise large and intimidating man.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower and groom yourself, get a haircut that matches your face, Where clothes that aren't ragged and old that match and fit relatively well. invest a little time in yourself, like with a hobby.
Keep your fingernails clean, smile often, take as good care of your skin as you can.
And don't be a complainer!!! Nothing worse than being stuck in a conversation with someone with nothing nice or at least productive to say.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm probably going to get shit for this; and this goes for guys and girls. A little foundation goes a long way. If you have a few reddish blemishes in the morning (or night) and have somewhere important to be, consider dabbing a little foundation on there that matches your skin tone. If done well you'll barely notice it's on there and other people definitely won't notice.
Honestly be confident, if you cant be confident, fake it. One thing i always did back in college to make myself more confident was to clamp a chip clamp on my foreskin and walk around with people not suspecting a thing. Sounds wierd but hey, what works works am i right?
Stop arguing. I'm sure you are a smart person and know a ton of awesome information...but stop being so pushy about it no one fucking cares. It shows how immature you are. It's OK to be wrong sometimes. We are not perfect some times we dohear wrong information.
Step three- Enjoy all the attention from ladies you will get. They will be so attracted to you that they will handcuff you and throw you in the back of thier car.
ninja20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dudes, walk into a fucking nail salon, spa place, whatever. Ask to get your eyebrows done. It'll take 5-10 minutes at most and shouldn't be more than 10 bucks if you're going to an Asian place. They're not going to make them pencil thin or anything. Simply cleaning up the hair around your brows makes a world of difference
Have confident body language, including standing up straight, smiling, facing the people you're talking to, and not closing yourself off with crossed arms
Be passionate about something. It doesn't even really matter what it is, within reason. A hobby, your job, getting into shape, cooking, even video games if it's truly a passion instead of what you do because you can't think of anything better to do.
ajvalent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make eye contact. Shows confidence and a willingness to engage.
This is mostly for men, but I guess works for anyone: Dress better - doesn't mean expensive clothes, just nice, quality basics work. Pick colours that go well together, that you like and suit you, and leave things like graphic tees for when you know people will appreciate them. Nice shoes make all the difference. You can make jeans and a tshirt look like a smart casual outfit with some nice dress shoes or boots.
Work out .. it's 100% free to run, do pushups, pullups etc.
Wear the right fitting clothing. I see way too many men in the professional field wearing baggy dress pants, dress shirts that flare out at the waist.. scuffed up shoes.
Having confidence. Or just knowing how to dress so things match is always a bonus. Also the right haircut. Some haircuts just don't look as good on one person as another, deals with facial structure and all that fun stuff.
Definitely make your eyes look like the rest of your face is smiling even if you're not actually smiling. It's basically a scientifically proven thing to be very effective but I'm too lazy to back that bold claim up with an actual source.
JuJewBea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Visually? Accessoires/fasion - cloths make the person. Talk to someone you know who always is dressed right for their input on what would look good on you.
Generally tho, hobbies, interests & the ability to communicate about them without overwhelming the person you're talking to. The most attractive thing a person can rock is a passion
Sigerr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your life has to tell a story.. That is kinda like why girls "love badboys" - it's because their live is exciting.
There are some great inputs here. However, I keep seeing the thing about smiling more. I think this confuses some people who aren't naturally socially gifted. You don't have to walk around with a big teeth-bearing grin at all times. That might come off the wrong way.
THowever, think of it more like you're smiling to yourself, until some kind of interaction or something makes you smile bigger or whatever. It's not a huge smile; it's usually a little one that's often close-lipped and subtle. The result is that you'll end up walking around with a pleasant look on your face. This can turn into a smirk, but you'd rather be a smirker than a grimace. Hell, people may even ask you some day, "what are you so happy/grinning about?" Have a response ready. "Oh just life, ya know?" Be creative. Now you have a conversation going with a person who was drawn to speak with you. Because you changed how you hold your face. Easy.
You don't have to do this all the time, but you should know how to do it, especially in situations where you care how others are perceiving you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read more books, read a sunday paper, learn how to make three great meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner), drink more water, don't EVER drink just to get drunk, be patient and tolerant (even when undeserved).
Zoklett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind. Like proactively. Look for little ways to be nice to those who could use someone being nice to them. Not necessarily the guy/girl you're trying to impress. A good person will find your kindness and selflessness attractive.
kateemo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The clarisonic exfoliating machine is a godsend. Also be nice. Meanness makes you ugly. Niceness automatically gives you a point or two in the good looking direction.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be aware of your features. If you have a large forhead, get some bangs. If you eyebrows are terrible, fix them. If you don't do anything with your hair, get a haircut and stop being lazy.
This is purely physically speaking. I think a lot of people already answered the whole "personality" part. Get some confidence and some hobbies. But lets be real. If you have awful features, you need to learn how to play them down.
Know how to engage in conversation. Show interest in the person you're talking to by asking questions!! It'll make the person you're conversing with feel special. Nothing less attractive to me than someone who drones on and on about themselves.
If you're a guy, try to speak in a deeper voice. Or at least try to avoid speaking/laughing in a high pitch. Of course, you don't want it to seem forced, but once you get used to it it becomes natural.
Patrho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower daily. Being clean is very important. Also, don't use slang for regular communication. It's makes a person seem uneducated and is just plain annoying. Look the person that you are talking to in the eyes and smile.
Shower every day, shave your face(if you are male), get your hair styled in a way that looks good and fits you, try to have good posture, and finally act confident. If you are more dedicated, update your wardrobe, tend to any acne (if you have it), and work out every other day.
Stand up straight. Good posture does wonders for your physical attractiveness as well as your confidence level, and makes you appear (and actually be) more open to social interaction and approachable.
Deftunes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're physically unable to, STAND UP STRAIGHT. Slouching is bad for you and looks bad too.
Fer-999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a good haircut, go to the gym and get some nice fitting clothes.
dssx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take showers (with soap and shampoo)
Wear Deodorant and clean clothing.
Brush your teeth
Drink more water, less soda/alcohol
Exercise 3x a week
Get consistent sleep
Learn to budget
Read a book now and then
Ask people about themselves
Learn a skill
Have a hobby
Take technology breaks
Serious general answer in order of importance to me:
Good hygiene - shower, shave, brush teeth, comb hair and apply deodorant daily.
Dress well - buy clothes that fit, are classically styled and are clean. It is always better to be overdressed than under. You do not need to buy hi priced garments to get decent quality.
Conversation/Interaction - Look people in the eyes while speaking to them, actively listen to answers, ask questions, smile.
Male, female, big, small, short, tall, these three general things seem to be a good starting point. Just and opinion, I am a guy, it has worked for me.
Some people look good with unkempt/unmaintained (not a word, I know) hair/beards. I'm not one of those people. I go to my barber once a week to get a haircut and lineup (beard trimmed and shaped with a razor). I find I'm more confident when I look kept.
Most importantly tho, if you're going to try to look good, do it for yourself first. When you find yourself looking good, your confidence in public will be boosted naturally. My GF hates my hair style and my beard, but I don't care cause I need to be comfortable in my own skin first.
As a man, you need to have a plan, work on it everyday, make adjustments as needed, and have absolute confidence in it. Have a schedule and stick to it. Know exactly where you are and where you're going. Have absolute control over your time and finances. Nothing makes woman more attracted to a guy than one that's really got his shit together.
The paradox is, with there being limited resources lately, (few good paying jobs, less money in the system, cost of living skyrocketing, working longer hours for less pay, etc) the more you have your shit together, the more you'll realize that women are a hindrance in general as they require massive amounts of time/resources (which you don't have).
evilgart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For starters, wash your clothes every once in a while and change it up. I saw that bloody skidmark in your underwear the last 3 times I came over to visit... do you even change? (note: I saw it because his shirts are too short when he bends over and his underwear/crack shows. Yes, he. No, I don't stare.)
Next, wash your hair. Shave your beard. Put on deodorant. Maybe actually showering more than once every few days would help the smell, and probably your skin too.
I care about you because you're my Family Member, and I know from talking to you that you've been working on your confidence and attitude, but you stink and look like a slob and it's gross.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This post is a godsend. I got a rating of "Hmm.." and "Ok" on that Zurich University attractiveness rater that was on the front page today.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bathe.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To sum up what I've seen here -
Fix your posture. Roll your shoulders back, and stand tall, like there's a string holding you up (think of a marionette)
Have interests and hobbies. Also, be knowledgeable and able to talk to people, and lead conversation.
Project your voice.
Dress a little nicer. My advice (for guys): vnecks, collars, also I've found dress socks with cool patterns get noticed quite a bit. Ideally you want to hide our flaws and bring out your strengths.
Exercise! and eat well! It won't pay off today, or tomorrow, but in a few weeks from now, it'll pay dividends.
Whenever this question pops up, I always see guys telling other guys that khakis and chinos are dressed up. NO. Khakis make me think of my dad. Or Target employees. There are pants out there for men that are not jeans or khakis!
Make sure you are clean, and if you have facial hair, keep it neat. Also wear clothing that fits. Regardless of your size, proper fitting clothing is big.
ianme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give. Change your mentality from "What can I take from this person?" to "What can I give this person?". Sometimes all you have to give is positivity, so be positive.
Learn peoples names and address them as such. It doesn't even hurt to overuse it at first in places that you would otherwise use a pronoun, just to emphasize to them that you care enough to know it.
If you forget someone's name, don't be afraid to ask them again. It's not as good as remembering it, but it shows that you want to know it.
If you forget after that, it's probably best to ask someone else while they aren't listening. And as a side note, in the future, try and do better. You shouldn't need to be told three times.
Pluck those renegade hairs that start showing up around your hair line. For me it does not make me more attractive but I feel better being neat and tidy. If you feel better about your self it shows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the gym.
DFxVader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower, brush your teeth, and wear clean clothes. That shit goes a long way..
Deodorant and being clean. No stray hairs, clean teeth, clean, neat hair and attire.
Odor is a big one. Don't smell strongly of anything!!! Even cologne can be a huge turn off.
Confidence and being able to make a decision without being overbearing.
A nice smile and eye contact, don't take yourself too seriously. Be fun and funny, just not too funny.
urgaan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you already look decent being funny makes you significantly more attractive. Humans like funny people, can you imagine wanting to date someone who never makes you laugh?
Everyone has the right to feel sparkly if they want to, damn it!
drwumpus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat with your mouth shut
PerogiXW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shampoo and condition. You want your hair to smell nice, but you also want it to be soft and smooth. Not greasy. Not dry. You want smooth blankety hair.
Unless you have naturally curly hair, in which case ignore this comment.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have to ask Reddit, it's already too late for you
Get a haircut somewhat regularly (probably not applicable for women). Even if you're growing out your hair/beard, it looks disheveled when it's simply grown out naturally without trimming and upkeep. Don't be afraid to use hair products as well.
Vary your wardrobe. T-shirts are fine for casual occasions, and are usually in good taste, but don't wear them all the time. Mix it up. Wear a button-down to a hangout with your friends now and then, and usually on a date.
The above two points go together in a bigger rule: keep yourself together, and looking it. Style, even if it's not all that fancy, shows that you take care of yourself and have your life together. It makes you much more attractive. A clean house/car is a huge bonus if you take a date back to your place too.
notlogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Xams2387 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would recommend BodyWeight fitness exercise. It gives you a really good looking body and also is functional. I get way less tired throughout the day and have better strength and endurance than when I ever lifted weights.
Hold your head up high/keep your chin up. It kind of goes with the other posts about posture. I've noticed that when I solely do this while walking normally, more people check me out. It probably has to do with how your face seems symmetrical or something, and it could be that it's because you seem determined and confident.
Buy clothes that fit you correctly. Girls wearing to small of outfits can accentuate all your problem areas and make you look bigger/lumpier than you actually are.
brotoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Melt that muffin top away instantly! Wear pants that fit!
exoxe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Although it requires effort, try doing 25 pushups and 50 sit-ups every morning or night. Have a notebook next to your bed and begin increasing every week.
Trim your nails properly. Don't bite them. I know it sucks, it's my new years resolution to not bite them. But the difference between my nails now and two weeks ago is astounding.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A simple way to become more attractive? Empathy and a love of life.
Other than that. Work out, eat healthy, pick up a few interesting hobbies, learn good diction, become well read, and travel. Learn about other people and show them the caring and warm side of a person that cares little about fashion trends and makeup tips and more about doing good and experiencing life.
If there is a set of qualities I look for above all in a partner it is intelligence, interesting hobbies, and someone who speaks well. And when I am single I attempt to put those qualities in myself first above anything else.
A little style and a good haircut certainly don't hurt, but make sure those things are for you and not just to attract other people (For whatever reason). If you simply want to make yourself feel more attractive, then become an interesting person and people will want to be around you. Everyone is beautiful. Everyone is someones type.
Health, Intelligence, and Empathy are the most attractive qualities in the world.
This times a million, if you smell gross you can bet your ass i'm trying to get away from you.
Jaumej19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower everyday, get frequent haircuts(one that suits your face) and dress decently. There are tons of clothing stores out there where you can find nice clothes without spending a lot of money. It is very important to always look fresh.
The way you behave has also a lot to do with attractiveness. Make sure to look at people in the eye when you're talking to them, walk with your head up, that will make you look much more confident, which is the most attractive feature.
If you're skinny, start seriously working out. If you're fat, lose that weight until you're skinny. Then start seriously working out.
It might suck, but the fact is that we're mammals working with instinctive sex drives. Everything on the top right now is about how to build on that initial spark. But it's worthless without it. And that spark comes from physical attraction.
MeArio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be easier to lose weight after you've already built some muscle mass especially if you didn't have much before.
Zokrym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be passionate about something, actually listen when someone is talking to you instead of waiting for your turn to talk, have good posture, know that you're an amazing human being, and God damnit know how to throw together a quick pan sauce.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exert confidence. No matter how you look, the way you display yourself will get you some glances your way. Freshman year me hid behind bulky jackets and kept my hand in front of my mouth because I hated the way I talked and the way my teeth looked. These days I wear whatever I want as long as I like it, and I wear it with pride. It's great when you start feeling attractive to yourself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aside from dressing "appropriately" (tumblr would have a field day with that comment, I'm sure) make sure that you, at the very least, make it appear you're having a good time. For some reason people are always intrigued by other people's good times and a lot of times would like to know why you're so happy (or at least appear to be).
Jesus, the things you write while you're waiting on your food to cook.
Being put together physically, such as good posture, haircut and pants that's fit is just the basics. What attracts most people is being engaging and empathetic. Listen and talk. Have opinions without being domineering. But to have opinions means you have to actually pay attention to the world around you. And have some kind of interests where you are actually doing something. Like cooking and painting.
Go to the gym and take it seriously. It's amazing how much difference it can make on how you and others look at yourself. Simply going isn't enough. Once there make sure you are breaking a sweat, burning calories, working muscles. Simply walking on the treadmill for 15 minutes or doing 20 bicep curls with a 5lb weight aren't going to cut it.
Also, the shorter you are the more that weight that you are gaining or losing (hopefully) will make a difference. Women tend to get the shorter end of the stick on this because 20lbs makes a very noticable difference when you're shorter and depending on where you wear it.
Nazaki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence. Have things you're passionate about (interests/hobbies). Be actively engaged as opposed to passively existing. Ask questions & have fun. I think the have fun is really important - too many people go around all grumpy-like.
Be passionate about something. Be polite and we'll mannered. Shower twice a day. Wear deorant and a small small amount of perfume. Meticulously groom your hair, eyebrows, nails, toenails. Tan. Whiten your teeth and smile more. Wear, in season and fashionable, clean clothing. Drive a nice clean car. Have a good updated phone. Walk with good posture. Tip well. Complain less. Have a positive attitude and outlook. Be fun to be around. Workout. Eat healthier. Show love for your family. Be confident and outgoing. Treat everyone respectfully.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've been actively doing all these things for a while now. I rock a solid posture with strong and reasonably big muscles, a clean face with a tidy head. I try to engage in conversation about their and my passions/hobbies.
Lost a great deal of weight in the last 5 years so clothes were hard but now i'm stable. Even if I lost that extra 15-20 pounds left it wouldn't change that much of anything so I started this summer to buy really nice shit for once.
People ask me why i'm at the gym 6 to 7 evenings a week. It's very simple actually, I ask everyone I suspect would want to hang out\eat out/drinks with me every three weeks. About 40% bother to answer with a no next time and they never do ask me out. So what do? Alors on pousse, pousse, pousse de la fonte, pour oublier la honte
I'm getting a lot of attention from chicks I don't feel attracted to at all. The 2/10 to 5/10 kind. But i'm not giving up. I try very hard to understand how I could better myself to make people want to be around me.
I hope I'd had time to be in all sorts of clubs like cycling, hiking, bicycle-touring but if I did my grades would take a hit.
So this is my whining so I don't go around spreading my negative thoughts.
I know some people might not call this simple, but I change weight frequently because my job. Everytime I lose weight, I notice that I get more attention from women.
Tl;DR
Lose weight
Rubieroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always be the person who is glad to see others, who initiates get-togethers, who listens, who is willing to spend time on others. This might not sound like something that will make you "pretty", but you'd be amazed how people are drawn to those who live a life of true and generous hospitality.
kamronb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From a guy's perspective - get a good job and get married. Seriously!!! I never knew how attractive I was until I started working a good enough job and got married. I used to get a girl here or there but the minute these two things happened to me, I had chicks digging my scene. But too bad for them, I'm off the market.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You realize that most people try to become more attractive in order to attract a hubby, right?
Lucky for me, I don't care, so I don't have to care about being attractive either.
Perfect your hygiene. Don't just do the bare minimum.
bloonail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a healthy or even lower weight for your height. Make your teeth white. Develop agility and flexibility - it makes your stance better. Wear up to date clothing. Be groomed.
bath, wear clean clothes. Listen to people and take a genuine interest - get over yourself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit well, and coordinate your outfits. Good use of color (not clashing), and clothes that don't drape off your body make you look like an adult. I know a lot of people who dress like ten year olds, when they're much older than that.
Find a hobby that involves being active and enjoy it, dress stylishly, get your hair did, if need be. look after your skin (hands and face mostly), brush your teeth, chew gum (bad breath sucks). I think it depends on the person also. .Personally though, I think that self confidence may appeal to a larger audience and is better for your soul too, but that's a slightly different topic.
for me I don't like seeing my teeth when I smile so I just do a closed mouth smile. Male Example. Female Example
Picnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bathe
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is up with a third of the posts being "SMILE!!!"? Maybe it's just me, I don't find it attractive or uplifting if someone I know smiles all the time. I'll assume they're just doing it to... well, make people think they're happy all the time and find them more attractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
keep your nails clean and not too long unless theyre well manicured. absolutely nothing worse than seeing someones really long, dirty nails. keeping your hands clean in general is so important imo, but especially nails.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be genuine/nice to your friends significant other/wives, treat them like a brother/sister even if you're a bit of a jerk. This will directly effect how their "single ready to mingle friends" see you. I know it works from first hand experience.
fausse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise. Seriously. Find a sporty thing you like, sweat regularly, you'll glow and feel better about yourself. Also helps with anxiety and panic attacks (for me anyway). I started rock climbing a few months ago and it was really intimidating but I'm way more confident because of it, I feel like spiderman, I'm stronger everywhere, and I enjoy it. That's the gist, find something you like because you can't lose with that.
Not saying you gotta get jacked right now but if you at least attempt to pick up and put something down that's not edible three times a week, you'll lose weight.
At least you will feel like the body you were given is useful for something, even if it's just to prove it to yourself. It's a good hobby, and at least something to do between TV episodes or respawns. Also good if you're depressed and shit
Confidence, and also wearing clothes that fit correctly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What ever style you want, always be neat and clean.
louiseG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be amused all the time, an inner amusement at what you see, the absolute silliness of life and people. It makes you look amused, approachable and in a good humor all the time. Doesn't mean walk around cackling,,just nice and a bit smiley!
Always look polished and presentable. Easy without investing money on new things: Clean shave, neat hair, iron your clothes, keep your nails short and clean, wash or polish your shoes, and always always have clean white teeth.
If you have some money to invest do the following: invest in clothes the fit you not too big and not too small. If you do not have a sense of fashion just ask for help from one of the workers. Time and time again people make the mistake usually of wearing clothes that is too baggy on them. It makes them look sloppy and like they just have given up on life. Also small details make a big difference. Wear a watch doesn't have to be expensive just wearing one automatically makes you look more polished. A nice pair of shoes goes a long way as well. Wearing "workout shoes" with jeans is a no no for me. Invest in some everyday casual shoes that are nice enough for a dinner but casual enough for everyday things.
IDK why but I am assuming you are a guy. From a female perspective just seeing someone with bulky messy shoes, dirty grimmy teeth, and baggy clothes is a turn off.
For some of us, this is like nails on a chalk board. (For those who it bothers, it needs no explanation.)
Kyzzyxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me? Die.
Ryzon9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight and build muscle
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spend more money on the people around you.
Mind you, this is not wise and ultimately not beneficial, but it does make you more attractive to most people if you do it right.
I used to not understand how my scumbag acquaintances would be able to take girls home from clubs and bang them, or be able to consistently have girlfriends. They weren't very smart, attractive, or clever, so I really just couldn't get how they were bringing these otherwise-decent-seeming girls home with them. Turns out, their trick at the club was to drop a grand at the bar on whoever would look their way (which they either got from selling drugs or from credit cards). They also spent all their money on their girlfriends, taking them out and buying them shit. I guess it made those girls think the guys were generous and fun or whatever, I'm not saying they were all just getting fucked for money -- I'm pretty sure they actually thought the guys were decent and they felt special. Since I never did any of that, instead opting for the "just be yourself" strategy, my success rate at bars was significantly lower.
When having a conversation with someone, don't just wait to give your "Oh, that's similar to when I..." Actively participate and ask the other person questions related to their story/information. You'll get more out of conversations and you'll be more enjoyable to talk to.
Have a creative or interesting hobby. Nothing is more of a bummer than when someone asks what you do with your time and you say "Netflix, internet, uh..."
Good hygiene goes a long way. It's worth the extra 30 minutes in the morning to properly shave, brush your teeth/floss, and shower.
A40 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mascara. Most people look more attractive with more visible lashes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
For men: Suits are good. Tailored suits that fit are better.
I often wear jeans and a T-shirt. I am a very casual guy. I spent three years as a percussion Instructor at a local high school that performed on the competitive marching band circuit. I bought four individual suit pieces that fit "ok" for about 140 bucks, paid a further 30 bucks to have them tailored to my specific size/weight/shape, and then showed up to our first competition. The children were on the bus, listening to the radio, and when they noticed me, they opened their windows and all started chanting (they're marching band students, they certainly weren't singing) that "Fancy" song that was so popular a year or three ago. The only way it could've been better is if, I dunno, something behind me was exploding as i casually walked away from it.
It wasn't the suit- lots of men wear suits. I bought a 100 dollar suit, and then spent 30 bucks (and a few hours) making it look like a 600 dollar suit. That's what makes the difference.
So that's how you look good.
Now let's talk about being real. And for the record, i am not talking about being an inconsiderate, judgmental asshole and then just saying something like "hey dog, i'm just keeping it real."
Being real is a lot harder than it sounds, because it means accepting more things about the world we live in than I can possibly list. Physical Violence doesn't actually fix problems. If your first response to any personal slight or offense is to want to kick someone's ass, that's not real. That's you being a violent individual that doesn't know how to actually live with or around other people (or at least, other people who have differing idealogies/personalities/senses of humor than you).
Being real also means engaging in intimate behavior. And I'm by no means talking about sex here. Frankly, with our sexually liberated culture, Intimacy isn't sex, and sex isn't intimacy. Sometimes being intimate is nothing more than allowing yourself to cry or experience true emotion in front of people. You may be a 39 year old male who is deeply touched by a loving scene in a movie and sheds a tear. You may be a woman who has finally had it with men and is asking her friends and family for support as she comes out as lesbian. Hell, you could be a rock star who's finally decided to come clean about your history of drug and sexual abuse- both giving and receiving.
The point is, Intimacy isn't just physical- it's letting people see a part of you that is vulnerable, and trusting those people to care for and about it in a respectful and compassionate manner.
And sometimes, keeping it real is about letting someone know, to their face, with nothing more than your words, that they're a judgmental douchebag, and that the world is full of interesting people with quirks, oddities, and unusual habits, whether said judgmental douchebag likes it or not.
Lastly, and i hope the cliche doesn't take away from the (hopefully speaking) wisdom of my post, but life is short. There are so many people out there who have so many incredible talents that will never see the light of day because that talented person is too busy worrying about work ("I have to make enough money to pay the bills") or what other people think of them ("I don't want to spend another friday night alone with netflix!"). I see a lot of people out there who devote a ton of energy to making the people around them love them, and by the time it's all said and done, they don't have enough mental or physical energy left to bother loving themselves. Let me ask- If you don't love yourself, what right do you have to ask others to love you?
the last thing I want to say is one I consider the most important, but also acknowledge as the least factual:
Respect is the most important thing of all.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not wearing a goddamn suit. I feel hot enough wearing one layer of clothing throughout the year, and I live in a temperate climate!
Be polite. Don't be an asshole. Groom yourself so you'll smell nice and look properly hygienic. Look at people as they are persons, not your personal toys/therapists/servants and act accordingly. Don't be an asshole - this one is never too much to remember.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink enough water and take care of your skin. These don't take a lot of money and make a world of difference. I use coconut oil as moisturizer , make my own masks, ect. Not smoking and drinking plenty of water will make your skin so much better. Even if you have underlying hormone issues, it will improve things. Depending on sensitivity you can exfoliate evert few days with baking soda (and a washclth, but be gentle!!!) Vitamin E capsules popped open and patted under your eyes at night. Honey and coco powder into a paste make an amazing moisturizing mask - baking soda exfoliation, rinse, honey/cocoa mask, hop in shower, rinse before you get out. It's not complicated and doesn't have to be costly but it can take some trial and error to find what's rght for your face. People fucking notice clear skin.
They0001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch how you speak. Speak from your gut, enunciate, eradicate any trendy bad speech habits like vocal fry and uptalking. Model the way that late-night talkshow hosts speak.
Stop doing the unattractive things you do. It's usually easy to point out if you pay attention: horrible posture and facial expressions (no, your face tensed up in a scowl is not your "natural resting face"), bad haircuts/facial hair. Lose weight so that you have an actual jawline and cheekbones.
If you have that one feature that you hate, but you have money, don't be too proud to just go get the plastic surgery and get it over with. Take Elon Musk for example. The confidence you get from getting rid of that bump on your nose will spillover and make you more attractive and successful in other subtle ways.
Shower and brush your teeth regularly. Possibly invest in a (not overpowering) body spray or cologne/perfume.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of guys don't do anything to their hair. Literally takes me 5-10 mins to do my hair in a simple way and makes it look so much better.
TJ902 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take some time to think about what you actually want in a partner/love interest. Do you want an SO? A FWB? A rotation of a couple fuck buddies? Know what you're after/are open to and what you're not. That involves getting a better understanding of yourself. And a lot of people say "dress nice" but I think more specifically you should develop your own sense of style. You don't have to spend a lot of money. Thrift stores or places like Winners, or outlet stores are your friend. Smile, eye contact, know/learn how to read basic social cues and always try to take any attempts to rattle you or test your patience in stride.
Improve your posture. It implies confidence, and at the same time, actually makes you look more graceful, stronger, and healthier.
Also, work with what you have, naturally. If you're a burly sort of hairy dude, put on a lumberjack vest, grow out that beard and rock it. Don't attempt to pull off the clean shaven, metro-sexual look. It won't work. If you have thin, fine, straight hair, go get a really angular, sleek haircut, not a perm. If you have a fair complexion, work that alabaster tone. Don't go fake-baking. It looks ridiculous. Curvy? Embrace that pin-up thing. Whatever you have, work it.
Look at people you find more attractive, even if not sexually, figure out what you see in them that makes them more attractive and emulate those things.
Moreover, notice the things unattractive people do, how they act, the way they look and stop doing those things.
Don't be an asshole to people. Even if it's someone you don't particullary like. Being nice to someone can help you, and others, in a major way. Maybe not in the present. But maybe later in life. Maybe something you said to someone helped them out of a really rough patch in their life.
Fashion sense. I know it's difficult to learn if you don't have an innate sense for it, but it's more than worth doing.
I'm an okay looking guy, but once I finally caved in to my sister's entreaties and allowed them to help me with my wardrobe, things improved dramatically. I'm not saying I was suddenly outgoing and confident, but things slowly changed.
As a drastic example, if a man wearing a dirty trench coat and white sneakers smiles at a woman, it's kinda rapey. But if the same man was wearing a decent looking pea coat, tan couderoy pants, and a good looking burberry scarf, there's a good chance she'll smile back.
Adam9172 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a god damn book sometime. If nothing else, it'll keep your grey matter ticking along as you connect the dots in a story and it's also fun to analyse what characters may do next.
Drink water, lots of water, cut right down on the energy drinks.
Trim your beard if you have a messy head of hair, but let it go if you have a neat haircut recently (obvious exception is when you have an interview, make sure it's all tidyish. Ask a friend/family/random if you're unsure what to do.).
Cut back on non essential spending as well - I used to drink two bottles of beer every night after work (usually with dinner), now I tend to drink one every few days as a treat after a harsh day. My brother did the same with chocolate as well, and now we're both noticing our skin looks healthier by a wide margain. Everyhing in proportion, friends!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress to impress. Seriously.
drmtc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clip your nails. My mom always told me unclipped nails are a huge turn off for girls.
Wear clothes that fit! You can hide the things you don't like about your body without wearing overwhelming clothes. Tailored clothes look polished and snazzy.
chr1574 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this. Proper fitting clothing makes a huge difference, ESPECIALLY if you are slightly overweight or don't have a perfect body. People always think the opposite, that if they don't have a good body, then what's the point, but it makes a huge difference.
Basic hygiene and grooming. Shower regularly (duh). Use deodorant (double duh). Trim your nails. Wear clean clothes. Get a nice haircut, and try out getting your eyebrows waxed (even if you're a guy; it makes a big difference)
Generally, I think the biggest part of "becoming" more attractive, at least physically was working out. Once I became fit, everything else that people have mentioned work even better in making you more attractive. I was a chubby dude when I went to college, but now I'd say I'm pretty muscular now (been 5+ years of smart, intense working out) and that has been a big part in the boost of my attractiveness, on top of the other things I've done. But you don't have to be a fitness model or anything, simply working out and having a slimmer body helps.
Biggest small things I've done:
Messing with my hair (growing it longer, shorter etc.). Ultimately finding a haircut that suited my face with the help of the internet.
Better FITTING clothes. Simply having expensive name brand clothes will not make you look better.
Teeth whitening strips (seriously, I didn't realize how yellow my teeth had gotten from years of drinking black coffee.)
If you solely want to improve physical attractiveness, I've found that these small things dramatically improved me. Again, once I started working out consistently and made progress, every other thing in terms of improving attractiveness became easier, both physically and mentally. So the simplest thing you can do to make yourself more attractive is work out and maintain a pretty healthy diet.
I did the buzz cut for many years just to make showers and maintenence easier and faster.
I let it grow out just barely enough to play around with and you'de be surpriae how far a little bit of hair can take you.
I just comb it to the side a little bit and add a little scruff and it definitley makes me look a little better and a bit less like sid from toy story.
xaapje ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
become filthy rich and no1 bats a eye on how you look.
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Get your eyebrows threaded and/or properly shaped. Your features will be sharper just with a cleaned up brow(make sure you don't get them done thin, just shape your natural eyebrows with a slight arch, nothing is worse than over tweezing those brows!)
Syq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give the other person a compliment. People love being complimented and it automatically makes you look classy af.
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Wear your hair down, yes, it's always easier to run errands and just tie up a pony tail, but if you just wash and blow dry your hair and where it out, it will make all the difference( you don't need to many styling products or any, if you have just naturally healthy hair)
If you push your tongue behind your teeth when you smile, it helps get your mind off of trying to smile and more focusing on your tongue. Also helps you relax a little.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more, but in a genuine way. When I make eye contact with someone I just flash a quick smile and continue on with whatever I'm doing.
Smiles are extremely attractive to me and it doesn't matter what state your teeth are in or if it's crooked or awkward. A genuine smile is always nice
DatBowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting my eyebrows done. Also I'm a guy
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Accessories are your friends, you could be wearing cheap clothes, but if you have a nice scarf, belt, watch, pair of earrings, sunglasses, etc..you've just elevated your look 10x. Be sure not to over do it, a statement necklace doesn't need gaudy earrings as well, pick one show stopper accessory and keep the rest minimal.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be more tactful. A co-worker constantly complains about old grudges and how the world is a shitty place for reasons that make him appear very ignorant of others and different perspectives. My other co-workers don't think highly of him.
You can influence others' perception of your physical attractiveness by your communication skills; i.e. more attractive if you speak well, less attractive if you speak poorly.
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Good Skin! Basic hygiene and a good moisturizer with SPF, and of course drinking lots of water should keep your skin in tip top shape. I despise the use of heavy foundations, powders, etc, all they do is make the face look cake, and they are terrible for your skin! Keep it natural and perhaps the occasional at home facial would do wonders( products like honey, argan oil, etc are great for the skin)
Wash your hair! (And untangle it if it's long enough to get tangled!) Ever since I grew my hair out I've noticed I look much less like a bum if I wash my hair, untangle it properly, and then tie it back.
As a sufferer of RBF, (resting bitch face) I had to teach myself how NOT to frown when my face is relaxed.
I've been practicing this for about six months now, I'm surprised how my coworkers are nicer to me. I think it's helping my face age a little better also.
Cheesy but be yourself, seriously it's the best thing you can do
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure your clothes are not wrinkly. Either lay them out, hang them up on hangers right after they come out the dryer, or iron them a bit before putting them on. Yes, even the T-shirts. Guys, take the extra moment to fold your pants properly. People instantly look more put together when their clothes are neat. And it makes them more attractive. They don't even have to be fancy clothes. But even your fancy clothes can make you look like crap, if they're all wrinkled.
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: A Pair of Comfortable Heels or Wedges. Noticed how I used the word comfortable. Nothing is worse than hobbling all over town, that's not attractive, but if you can comfortable rock a pair of shoes that give you height, you'll see all sorts of looks coming your way...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take up some interesting sports. Learn a new sport every year. My new goal. Physical exercise makes you look better, you have things to look forward to, and is just awesome time to do with others. You're more attractive if you're doing fun things with someone else. Or even just talking about doing fun things.
Some suggestions:
Yoga, Skiing, Skating, Paddle Boarding, Scuba Diving, Regular Diving, Swimming, Kayaking, Rollerblading, Running, the list is endless.
Most of these are more fun when you do them with another person.
Emocmo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. Engage in conversation. Be interested. Read the newspaper, so you can have an opinion.
Of course, having millions of dollars helps. A lot.
Don't be needy, clingy, desperate, or annoying. Don't talk too much or follow people around or be that person that always is the first person to arrive at a party and is the last to leave. Get a life. If you are working on it and aren't quite there yet, pretend that that you do.
When im minding my own business i get tons of looks, sexy sexy ladies ill tell ya!!
The moment i get conscious of it, its over. No more sexy sexy looks
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Less Makeup is More! I've noticed, that if I do a great job with my eyeliner/mascara, I don't need to put on any other makeup besides maybe a tinted lipgloss or stain. Focus on one part of your face or go neutral throughout, I know a lot of women just over do it with the makeup, it's easy to become a walking Sephora ad...
rafaelzf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile! No one is attracted to a grumpy face
JoMich85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Good Outerwear, if you have a great coat, vest, etc., you will look more attractive, even if you're wearing something drab underneath. Invest in good quality outerwear...
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Clothes that fit, nothing is more attractive than seeing clothes that are too tight or waaayy to big on a person. You can be of any size, but make sure you're buying clothes that are age appropriate and fit well, a good fitting bra also makes a huge difference on how tops look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be unattractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remove excess body hair ears, nose, back etc. Take care of your breath immediately bad breath is a huge red flag period. Wear clean pressed clothes as well as clean taken care of shoes. It shows pride in your appearance. Stand up straight show some self belief and confidence for God sakes. Create a masculine jawline, if you don't have one already shave or grown a beard to mask weaker jawlines it appeals to the cave woman inside her. Don't wear to much cologne a little goes along ways the idea is to have her come close to you to have a sniff. Last but not least exercise not for her but for you.. You will look better in your clothes and it will put you miles ahead of the guys who doesn't work out especially as you age.
Depends on what you mean by simple. For me it's said simply but can be hard.
Eat right, exercise at least a little, just generally care about yourself and your body. Seriously if a person can't do that they become a lot less attractive
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lameroni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dem eyebrows
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I often work out before work, usually after riding to training or the gym and then to work. I'll always shower before work but I can definitely see the difference between doing my hair properly and moisturizing my face (tend to dry out after showers) and not doing that. Can wear the exact same thing but I'll look very different.
sarudesu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great smile, Clean appearance, and confidence.. Makeup? sure, that will make girls prettier.. but there is DEFINITELY more attraction to people who are confident, and smile.
Smiling is a huge one for me. I used to be straight-faced and monotone in highschool. I never realized it made me look like an angry person. A girl told me I had a great smile and to use it more one day. So I tried to start smiling more and use more enthusiasm in my voice. Definitely opened a lot of doors for me.
einchi29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women: go for a bra fitting. 4/5 women wear the wrong sized bra. The proper bra will improve your posture, lift those suckers up, and give you confidence.
dMarrs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy clothes that fit.
Bathe. Seriously,you can't always tell how ripe you are.
Smell better. Shower more often than you think. Put on nice perfume, people get attracted to perfumes with mild yet strong smell, but not something like an "Oud" or something like a strong Perfumes. Somewhere in the between like a Bulvgari in Black (For Men) Expensive perfumes, are not always the best, neither the cheap ones.
EDIT: An advice for all genders, not just males, but a rule of thumb for all people to smell better. Yes, the images included are for Men, because I'm a male.
Make one eyebrow into two. Lose weight. Good hygene. Smile.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave your facial hair if you don't want to groom it. If you want a mustache, beard, etc. then you absolutely have to groom it to look good and not look like a basement dweller.
There's some cool research going on about smell and memory. I can still remember my ex gfs perfume from high-school, which was a long, long time ago. So invest in some classy cologne.
Dude here. Set aside an hour or so to groom yourself.
I find it best to set up a weekly "maintenance" schedule, I do mine on Sundays. Trim or shave any body hair you wanna keep in line, do a facial masque (if you're feeling fancy โ shoutout to /r/skincareaddiction), give your teeth a good brush, floss, and mouth wash. Have a nice relaxing shower, and go about your day. You can add as many steps as you want (my weekly schedule takes me just over an hour, lol.)
I don't dread the times I go to do it (like most people), because it's "me" time. I bump some music in the washroom and just have at it. I don't have to worry about looking like a bum at all throughout the week, and my SO appreciates that I take care of myself. Taking pride and being confident in how you present yourself is extremely important in life, and a small amount of grooming really goes a long way. Especially as a guy.
Edit: Grammar/Syntax.
KousKous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture and choosing clothing that fits your body.
tkoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man, get and maintain a good haircut.
blue_27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hit the gym on a regular and consistent basis. Get a personal shopper, if you don't know how to dress. And ... stand/sit up straight!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has come to my attention, that I'm unattractive.
saanis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tweeze your eyebrows. such a small thing that makes a huge difference.
duhizy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To not take rejection poorly.
I'm taking someone else's metaphor from the socialskills subreddit, the jist of it is that you need to think of yourself as someone giving out cookies. Maybe, you as a person, are an oatmeal raisin cookie, not everyone likes oatmeal raisin cookies, maybe someone tells you that they prefer peanut butter chocolate cookies but may, at a later date, decide that they want an oatmeal raisin cookie. The point is, you have no idea, you have to ask everyone if they want a cookie because you don't know what their preferences are, you also cannot be offended that someone would prefer a chocolate chip cookie because you know that chocolate chip cookies are awesome in their own right.
Be aware of a resting bitch face. My brother told me when I was in my early teens that I looked angry all the time. I was angry for a while but then it made me look in the mirror a little more and practice a not so bitchy pleasant face for when I care what people think about my appearance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
be polite to the people around you.
this includes your bartenders, servers, common people on the street.
be kind and don't reject anyone who tries to open up an honest dialogue.
being a typical douchebag works only to impress other douchebags.
being polite shows that you have manners and may even trick people into thinking you have morals and feelings.
For guys: get your eyebrows shaped. I mean this applies to girls as well, but this comment is especially directed at men because there's still some masculinity bullshit hang ups on getting your brows threaded or waxed professionally. It will change the look of your entire face, plus it lasts longer than shaving and look better than doing it yourself.
If your wearing a polo shirt, don't pop your collar...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Improve your posture. Look around you. There are people who aren't particularly attractive that you are drawn to because they stand and sit up straight.
Learn the basics of accessorizing and color. I hear so many (lazy and uninformed) people say they cant be bothered with fashion because they want to be confortable, but what they dont realize is that fashion and comfort are not mutually exclusive. I always look put together and stylish, and get compliments everywhere I go, even if I just threw something on to run to the store. A long pendant, some boot socks/cuffs, hats, knit headwear, circle scarves, a printed cardigan or a suede vest are really easy ways to dress up a t-shirt and jeans or a tunic and leggings. If you wear all black all the time, mix it up with any of those items in pretty much any other color (oxblood is a great color for winter, for example), and remember that your purse/jacket/boots doesn't have to be black too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exercise regularly
warpus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe rough, but hang out with people uglier than you. You won't be any more attractive, but others' perception of your attractiveness will be slightly distorted.
Code347 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't jerk off on public transportation.
olov244 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower, wear clean clothes that fit, and stay groomed with neat hair
hsfrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Piercings, tattoos, partially shaved head.
At least a lot of people seem to think so.
biscaya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be passionate about something in life that doesn't take money or upward mobility to achieve. Make the best of what you have, respect other people, especially your elders, say please and thank you. Have a genuine smile, be nice to folks in the service industry. Did I mention how attractive it is to volunteer your free time to something you care about.
Brush your teeth! Wear deodorant, apply liberally. Take frequent showers. Wear clothes fitted to your body. It does not need to be skintight, but it should not be extremely baggy.
Bithron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of your skin. Even a simple moisturizer you get at the drug store every morning will make all the difference. Your skin will be in great shape, you won't show your age and you'll feel cleaner.
Use your brain and put together a very simple workout routine. It doesn't need to be complicated or elaborate. I mean basic is fine. Pushups, pullups, rows, squats and situps 3 times a week. It will take less than 45 minutes, you will need minimal equipment, and your confidence and body will begin to take a shape you have never known.
I've found the easiest way to become more attractive is to surround yourself by ugly people. I've often enjoyed days of high self esteem when hanging out with my uglier guy friends. I feel and look like a male underwear supermodel.
I have ugly friends, it doesn't work. They're ugly to the point where they simply repel females, but that doesn't even matter because they're fucking awesome people, they are so awesome, that I spend all of the time drinking and talking with them and forget about getting pussy.
Completely get it. My friends are my friends, ugly or not, but it helps Makes me look a little better in pictures. They are always asked, who's that handsome big guy? And that just makes my head swell!
Well I'm not a pretty rose by far anyway, but when I'm with my friends, I turn drunk and even uglier, and I forget about pretending to be attractive, because bros b4 hoes. I only receive attention from opposite sex when I'm alone, because only then it's possible to talk to me, but if I meet my friend, goodbye sweet words, we HAVE to talk about that random time we got drunk seven years ago I just remembered right now.
DocFail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go back in time and choose new parents.
Arowelf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find being yourself is one of the most attractive things. And by that I mean, the way you are with close friends.
Don't smell bad , I can't hold a conversation with someone who smells bad, and if you smell particularly good , I will want to hold a conversation with you.
For a guy, your best bet is being tall. If you can't be tall, be average height. If you can't be either, move to somewhere where girls are more accepting of height. After this you can do all the other things and actually have them matter.
1) Shave
2) Work out for just like 20 minutes even a day. Like, you don't have to go all out. Even just lifting a dumb-bell for 20-30 minutes every couple of days will get you some compliments. Of course ideally if you have a gym membership you should work out properly but as far as simple things go that's pretty simple.
3) Get a haircut. A good one.
4) For men: Women are more likely to find you attractive if you don't smile. It is weird but apparently there is something that women like about that according to experts.
5) Wear a suit or a button-up and pants. Make it look like you tried to pick out your clothes this morning.
Lose weight. Get a hobby. Have a passion in life. Be funny. Have interesting and fun dates. Guys forget that just going out to a bar is boring to a girl. If there's a good discussion or a bar game (I.E. Trivia, shuffle board, air hockey), attraction will rise.
Find some clothes that actually fit your body type. I used to really not care at all about how I dressed. Then a gf of mine introduced me to J Crew and showed me how to actually "make myself look put together." It was amazing how wearing clothes that fit WELL can make you go from looking like a 21 year old burnout to a professional looking adult male.
Morceman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have acne problems, one thing that is amazingly easy and helpful is washing or changing your bedding weekly. If you have clean sheets and pillows, that's less oils ruminating all over your body.
cleanout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your hands and nails looking clean. I'm not talking about manicures, but at the very least there shouldn't be any gunk under your nails. Also, moisturize them hands... nothing worse than rhino hands!
Aeri73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
have a decent photographer take your profile picture
Smell good. I can't tell you how many times people have told me that I smell good just becuase I wear a little bit of nice cologne.
One of the first things I notice about a girl is when they smell good. That's one of my biggest turn ons (not sexually necessarily) and it makes a big difference on attractiveness
txroller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
confidence
Toparov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Learn a romance language, women (and men) love that, It's not incredibly simple but if you devote half an hour to it a day (say during your commute to work rather than listening to music) and you will be conversant in a year.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a guy. Use some hair product. Using hair product doesn't mean like a Jersey Shore gel douche hair. Maybe 80% of the celebrities you see use some kind of product in their hair. And hair product doesn't mean gel. Get some wax or pomade. Too many decent looking guys mess up because their hair looks like a dried old birds nest without style.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, don't talk so much that the tiny bit of spit on your lips turns into a little white booger I can't stop staring at.
If you're a man work on lowering your voice so that when you plug your nose or when you talk, you sound essentially the same.
Stop having closed off body language and open up (for example: don't cross your arms).
Also check to see if you have black heads in your ears and if so get rid of them.
hefner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT I learned how to walk
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a better paying job.
CCSaar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
People always talk about losing weight and taking in less calories on these threads, but sometimes the opposite might be just right for you.
I'm male, always been super skinny. Skinny fit had a time and a place in my teens, but now it just makes me look like a toothpick, even with regularly working out.
Then I started cooking meals twice as big as I thought I'd need and actually eating it all. Life is busier now and I have much less time to work out, but I looked in the mirror the other day and actually thought, "Damn, I've filled out and look pretty good!"
So, eat healthy, but for goodness sake EAT. If you're naturally a stick like me, listen to your body and eat until you're full.
This is likely advice for a minority, but it sure helped me.
(And drink water, lots of water. Like, more water than you think you need. Down your stomach in motherfuckin' water.)
EDIT: Also you'll feel a lot more energetic if you've got a full stomach of (healthy) food!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are a man, do some research and find a good cologne. Having a nice scent does all sorts of things to the memory and pleasure centers of a woman's brain.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tanning is definitely not a way to be more attractive...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And what's wrong with that? I'm very pale, I don't care. Tanning is harmful, and only trendy. People usually look best with natural sun exposure, and a good skincare routine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's always products which can gradually tan you. But tanning is bad for you, and so not worth it. Period.
bchmbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a Passion for something!
There is someone out there who gets braingasms over the same thing
Describe a dish just right and you can take a foodies breath away :P
Moisturise with the correct moisturiser. I thought I had oily skin because I had spots, found out I wasn't, bought a cheap dry skin one and it made such a difference. My skin evened out, no flaking or spots. I don't wear make u to work so this made me look better everyday without changing much at all
Klamters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BDou408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A more outgoing personality goes a Looong way...unfortunately it doesn't come naturally for some of us. Fake it till you make it and who knows your SO might actually like the real you just talk and get yourself out there.
thing03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure how well this fits into your setting, but for me just being more confident really goes a long way.
I'm currently a Senior in High school and before 10th grade I was a total loser. I was a really late bloomer so I was short af and simply not confident in anything I do. Basically nobody wanted anything to do with me.
Since then, just being more confident really improved my life in general. After "pretending" for a while it really just game naturally after that. Some people call me "arrogant" and "cocky", but I just call them "jealous".
Oh, and being tall helps. A lot.
sidnie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop swearing in public for fucks sake! You sound like an asshole!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be attractive.
Don't be unattractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little cologne goes a long way. Don't drown yourself in cologne, just spray some on your wrists and dab it on to your other wrist, neck and chest; Wear fitted clothes, I know it's harder for us skinnier guys but you just have to look; Every man should also have an analog watch; Don't be afraid to wear color, shop with someone so they can tell you if a certain color suits you; When speaking to someone make eye contact, not crazy stares but just enough to show someone you're engaged in the conversation. Smiling and laughing at the appropriate time is good as well; Most importantly carry yourself with confidence, it doesn't matter how nice you dress or anything if you don't look confident. Hell, you don't even have to do much but be hygienic and confident, it really changes how people look at you.
Don't wear too much makeup doing trivial things like going to school or going to the store. It's great if just a little the little things like concealer, eyeliner, lip...anything but piling it on and wearing, eyeshadow,eyeliner,foundations,concealer, lipstick is just a bit much. Many people don't realize this and try to keep up with famous figures and how they look on instagram post but there isn't anything wrong with looking normal.
nikkenji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink lots of water because it's good for your skin.
Shower with soap. Don't just let the water hit you.
Confidence. You don't need to have your whole life figured out or know what you're doing next, but just be confident about who you are in the moment and it's the most attractive thing ever.
Tame those eyebrows! Regardless of gender those super bushy brows or even the mono is just not that great a look. Look up some tutorials on youtube and just pluck a few hairs here and there to neaten up a bit until you get adjusted to styling them. You would be surprised the difference it makes when they are just that little bit neater.
Stop drenching yourself in perfume / cologne. A little is fine. But, bathing in it before leaving the house is a good way to have people moving away from you instead of toward you.
Carry yourself with confidence, even if you don't really feel that way in the inside. It will change how people deal with you, and you will start to become truly more confident.
bjritter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not easy, but it's simple: lose weight, tubby.
Source: Am fat, know I've had more attractive days in the past as a skinnier dude and will get back there, but will not live in fantasy land thinking I'm hot shit til I'm back there.
Keep your shoes clean and IRON YOUR CLOTHES! Skip the dryer and get a really nice, quality, self cleaning iron by Rowenta for example.
It's amazing how crisp an old t-shirt will look when it's freshly ironed. Seriously, the next time your out at any grocery store, just examine other people around you and pay attention to their shoes / wrinkly clothes. Just these 2 simple steps will put you ahead of 80% of the competition
As a man, you'd be amazed at the difference a little tan can make. Instant compliments along the lines of "you look really good today, not sure what it is."
Gain some weight. I'm one of those people with high metabolism and can't gain weight even if I eat a lot. If only I was more meaty instead of looking like a skeleton.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygiene
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Exercise. Drink enough water. Have a hobby you're passionate about
Think better of yourself. In order for other people to find you attractive you must first find yourself attractive. Just think more positive about things in your life. People love seeing people who are genuinely happy about their lives.
Smile often. Wear clean, ironed clothes and clean tidy shoes - they don't have to be expensive but just cared for.
Clean and cared for hair. Clean teeth. Take pride in your appearance.
Be pleasant to people and ask about them, and truly listen to their response.
Don't be a hater/complainer; so unattractive!
Walk with head up and shoulders back. Shake hands when meeting new people (male or female) with a firm handshake and a smile. Use your manners!
Take responsibility for yourself, your actions and your choices in this world; don't blame others. If you don't like something in your life change it.
Make the most of yourself and your life, in interested and curious in the world and others.
Lraiolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care if yourself. brush your teeth everyday, shower, brush your hair, focus on your hygiene. Even my bestfriends don't brush their teeth everyday, or shower everyday. Because of this they feel extremely insecure about it and don't try talking to women as much. When they do it's the first things they think women will notice. Just by taking care of yourself you instantly become more approachable, and eventually will make you feel more attractive.
I hope this actually made sense to someone, or even helped them out.
Have clean-looking, white-ish teeth. One of the first things I'll notice about a person is their teeth, and having a dirty or bad set can instantly take someone down 4 points
Get in shape. We've got millions of years of evolution behind us. Basicaly anyone that is in shape is more or less attractive to the opposite sex.
If you're clean and not over or underweight you're attractive. You might not win a beauty pageant, but you should be fine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your face. It works just as well as acne cream if you just wash your face with soap and water everyday.
Also posture invokes confidence. Which is hot.
Smile. For nothing else than to make people wonder what you are smiling about. I'm always more attracted to people with a smile then someone who looks pissed off or bored, even if its not true to how they feel.
Well fitted clothes, good quality shoes, and well groomed. I think what you wear and how you keep your hair are all personal preference, and I'm not trying to say that you have to get the best exclusive luxury brands or the popular brands. The important thing is you come across neat and tidy.
work out. Keep good hygiene. This means hair is clean and styled. Clothes need to fit and be clean. Don't keep large items in your front pockets. Floss! Brush twice a day for 2-3 minutes.
Do not go to extremes when someones trying to make a point that's a huge turn off.
I saw a comment on this thread that said "If you don't like something at least see the appeal in it. People hate it when you blatantly hate something without giving it a chance." Which I totally agree with so, I told my friends and then my friend said "i'm still never trying broccoli and what about gang rape, or murder!!"
Your post makes me terribly sad. It seems to be a "self fulfilling prophecy" when you are in the negative, more negative things happen. I'm sure you've heard all the advice in the world about depression and seeking treatment, so I won't bother with that. The only thing I can offer is that there is a random internet stranger who managed to overcome an early life of negatives that read your post and wishes they had some magical advice that would turn your life around.
Nutcup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I was always a "Beta" growing up. In high school, I was in marching band. When I wasn't doing marching band, I was doing tech-support for the school. Fat, nerdy...my wardrobe consisted mostly of apparel obtained or won at big LAN events (I wore a Half-Life t-shirt twice or thrice a week.)
Post high-school I studied engineering, and then criminal justice. Several life experiences steered me towards a career in law enforcement.
Went to an 18-week basic training academy. 3 months field training. Then on the street.
All of a sudden, I found myself receiving more female attention than I knew what to do with. Dates came easy, though the women were always fairly shallow or dumb. Luckily I ended up with a gal that knows that inside I'm still a nerd, but she also respects what I do. She obliterated me in Quake 3 last night. I've never been more turned on.
What I realize, though, is that what I have now that I didn't have before was confidence. My uniform and my presence exude confidence. I have to appear confident, otherwise some of the folks I deal with will see weakness and take advantage of it. I learned that the best way to avoid a violent confrontation is to put forth the visage that I'm bad as hell. Even if I'm not that great a fighter (I'm not) and even if I'm not an alpha male, I have to appear as such. Somehow, that level of apparent confidence is incredibly attractive.
So...I dunno. Enlist in the military, or the national guard, or the reserves. Go fight pirates or something. Or just learn to be more confident and to project that confidence. Men and women alike respect that.
People look way better with good posture. Being a girl who's almost 5'9, I always hated being tall but my grandma always told me to keep my shoulders back. I hate when guys especially slouch. Why tf are you trying to be shorter???
Posture. Posture. Posture. I used to think it would make me look silly to always stand straight, I get an insane amounts of compliments on my posture and walk.
TeddyCJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Besides the usual: shower, deodorant, clip nails, dress accordingly (dress for the girl you are trying to attract), and workout (not big muscle man - but simply just be healthy)....... You should also, read up on current events, smile, make jokes, listen (don't just talk - personal experience of violating this), open up and be yourself. Attraction has layers: physical, relational, and emotional. If you try to brush up on all, you will start to see attention, and probably a better quality of life.
Syini666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maintain eye contact during conversation. I don't mean stare them to death! It will make the person feel you're more invested in what they are saying if you do that.
Well, I'm so late to the party, and almost everyone here has been so genuine and awesome, but I'm gonna tell you some tricky tricks.
I work in an industry with a lot of turnover, and a looot of people that I have to get along with, so I don't have a lot of time to forge bonds the good way. Instead, I use the "dog trick".
You love your dog so much because they're always so ready to celebrate, always happy to see you, and at times seem like they have a hard time containing all their love for you. You do that to people. You just remember their names (c'mon, it isn't that hard), then everytime you see them, you go "Oh! Hey, Vanessa! How are you??" all smiles and eagerness". Over time, they'll do the same to you, and without even having to understand why, you are both now trained to feel the same about each other as you do towards your dog. It's a good thing. Makes you feel like you're on the same team, kind of.
Next, (it's really easy, but hard to do right), you have the simple compliment. You need to try to see the things that you would like to be noticed, but never are, and notice them for other people. Like, at my job, my supervisor is a really badass lady; runs a tight ship and everyone's happy for the most part. So, I tell her that I think I'm lucky to work here, and that I think she does a good job. I go into a few specifics, but nothing approaching ass-kiss-zone. Fast forward a few days and a letter about management positions opening up comes through the community inbox. I say that I'm considering looking for a management position sometime in the future, and ask nonchalantly, "if you had to put why you've been successful here into one sentence, what would it be?". I'm training to manage, now, and she's been kind of mentoring me.
I use the example with my manager because it was a time when this practice netted me money, but it's invaluable with coworkers, family, pretty much anyone. I don't do it with my friends because they would think it was odd that I went from "suck a dick you son of a bitch", when asked where I want to eat dinner, to "dude, I appreciate you taking the time to ask my opinion. You're always so considerate, but I don't really have a preference tonight".
sweadle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After my last job, I put it this way: Be your own PR person. It feels disingenuous, and that a truly good worker should be seen on their own merit, but the truth is at most businesses there isn't that kind of time and context for people to get to know you much.
Be positive. Bring up problems in private, successes in public. Don't complain, don't gossip, lots of smiling and nodding even if you think someone is an idiot.
When I started thinking that I was managing the career of someone else, everything changed. It made me respect my co-workers a little less for being so shallow, but that's humans. We like to be liked, and we like positivity.
This seems counter intuitive but it's super useful and important.
Do not over wash.
Over washing occurs when you shampoo, shower, and whatever too often. How do you know when this has happened? When your skin and hair is chronically dry and itchy. A lot of people in the developed world take hot showers way too seriously. You don't need to shampoo everyday, you don't need to blast your body with near-scalding hot water every day. Hell, you don't even have to wash your clothes everyday. It's all one big waste of water if you do it everyday.
I used to be like this, chronically trying to keep myself clean. It was some combination of insecurity and going through a bit of a germaphobe phase. They key is to let your endogenous (you can say "natural" but endogenous is more accurate) oils stay on your skin and hair. It not only feels better but you look better too instead of like some kind of red lobster person.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how "lose weight" hasn't come up yet.
Women: wear heels. Even 1 inch makes a huge difference in how your calves and butt look. Yeah yeah yeah ballet flats are comfortable, and they make you look like a bow legged penguin.
Confidence. Confidence can instantly have positive effects on being more attractive. At the same time don't get all cocky and arrogant. No one likes someone who doesn't believe in theirself ever, but at the same time, no one likes someone who is too confident, that never believes they're wrong.
zaclis7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assume you are a male... this is reddit you know haha but check out primermagazine.com
It is an awesome blog with great style and life articles. The get ups alone have helped me gain some style with clothes that fit and people (not just females) take notice of when you dress better.
Also workout. Try to start simple with something like 5x5 and you'll quickly see a difference.
Lastly, sometimes you've just got to fake it till you make it.
Personal hygiene, please. Nothing ruins my focus, interest, or even simply wanting to stand near a person like a nasty funk emanating from... SOMEWHERE on them. Just... eugh.
Also toenails. Keep those fuckers short and trim, thanks. -looking at you, dude with long toenails wearing flip flops year round-
PetiePal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture. Stand up straight.
Clean and tend your nails regularly.
Exfoliate.
Brush your teeth three times a day. Use good mouth wash. Floss.
Keep your place tidy. Change your sheets every 3 weeks.
Look up when you walk stop looking at the ground.
zacree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Nobody has ever looked good with a "muffin top".
If your skin/fat spills out wider than your waistband, you need to get a size up. Get longer pants than you would, being the waist up on over your flab and belt that shit.
And for Christ's sake, wear an undershirt. If you don't have abs worth flaunting, pop an under shirt on first and tuck that thing into your pants. When you stick your arms straight up and your belly is revealed, put an undershirt on.
And also, get sleevless undershirts. A little bit of short white sleeves poking out of your top sleeves looks real bad.
Wash your razor between uses. Like use some rubbing alcohol and then rinse it with water every time you start and finish shaving. Razors hold so much bacteria and shit and you're using them on your face. If you shave often and have bad acne, this is probably why.
Have answers, not problems. In all contexts. If you made it this far in life, you can figure it out
If you're going somewhere, make sure you aren't wearing white socks when you get there. White socks stopped being okay when you turned 16 and they won't be okay until you're 61.
And be REALLY good at at least one thing. Like you should be the best you've ever heard of at at least one thing.
Confidence. Patience. Forearms
ANNND responsibility. Not just "Do what you have to do" responsibility. But if you didn't do it or you fucked it up when you did so it, step forward and take your lashes.
You can't become attractive. There's tricks to accentuate the good in you but ultimately yoir either ugly or not. However you can change your scent. I find allot of the time that attractive people that smell bad repulse me and lesser attractive people that smell good get more of my attention then f they just didn't have a scent at all.
So calogne or perfume, and don't go cheap either!
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always dress at least slightly better than you have to. Don't just wear the lowest acceptable clothes. Going somewhere? How about put on some decent jeans and a button up shirt instead of looking like shit at the store in your funding pajamas or gym clothes? Your workplace is business casual? Why not throw on at least a tie at least sometimes? Tennis shoes permitted? How about some loafers instead? It will still be comfortable. You're not running, you're sitting at a fucking desk. I'm sick of hearing people cite comfort as their excuse. Nice pants are no less comfortable than dingy jeans. Dressy clothes are just as comfy as T shirts if they fit properly. And it really isn't any more expensive. No one really gives a shit about "brand." If you're concerned about a logo, you're doing it wrong.
Physical attractiveness is a less needed requirement for me. Just laughing, chatting, letting me know I exist, that's what I find attractive.
I mean, you're not likely going to get prettier, but as long as we keep laughing and talking, I'm fine.
tdb7893 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience people who are in shape, have an interesting hobby, and generally seem pretty happy have no trouble finding someone. Another bonus is that these three things are a pretty enjoyable way to live a life
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a chinless fuck. Invest in well groomed beards, eliminate neckbeard.
I also used to be fat. That problem was solved with exercise. That may sound crazy, but it is something you can do, just saying. I'd hate to be the dick that says loosing weight brings in the chicks, but it's true. Fat guys are not attractive to most attractive women. That's just reality.
And not for nothing, but the self esteem boost from getting looks makes it worth it. It's tacky, yes. But fuck it. It helps me give a shit.
Going from being a 250lb fatty neckbeard, to a 210lb muscular well-groomed man was one of the best decisions of my life. I'm not at my goal yet, I can still grab some fat on my back and stomach. But it sure as hell helps.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone mentioned pruning your eyebrows? I do my husband's-nothing extreme. I make sure that he has two, don't start halfway down his eyelid, and trim his errant long hairs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
surfzupp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drayzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight with correct posture (pull your shoulders back some, no slouching shoulder blades), eat healthy, spend some time being active, smile.
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, its weird. there is this new waterfall machine that they use to wash themselves instead.
xuxulala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't slouch. People tend to think of slouching is only something you do when sitting and relaxing. But you can slouch while standing up too. Stand-slouching is the worst.
Proper posture, good hygiene, and well fitting clothes
Sw33tbix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When speaking to other people, get them to talk about themselves, remain courteous, listen, and show insight to show you were listening. This does amazing wonders. People will perceive you as more caring and thus, attractive.
When talking to others, also show a depth of character. Show you have interests, but refer to them casually to show you have character, but that your interests don't define you. People will perceive you as interesting, but not obsessive. A good characteristic.
Take nothing to heart. You may have pride, but showing you are open to ideas and criticism shows people you are growing,mouth trying your best to understand yourself in the greater context. Insight is an attractive characteristic.
In short, try reflecting on things you consider positive/attractive characteristics in other people, and practice those traits.
Beauty and physical attraction are base instincts, but deeper attraction happens when people feel considered, cared about, and comfortable.
A lot of people put too much pressure on others to for fill a certain role for them, this manifests in "you are my entire life and reason for being", this can suffocate people. Be cool, calm and collected.
Halo909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
always have a fat and ugly friend next to you.
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pay attention, and practice looking in the mirror the way you would look at/see a total stranger.
Edit: Also, keep your mouth shut! People who walk around with their mouths open immediately lose a good 30 or so IQ points in my initial perception... and generally prove it correct once I get to know them.
Dyhard88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your damn TEETH. It's such a simple thing but it makes a big impact because your smile is the first thing most people see. Unless you have large breasts.
Seriously though......it's healthy and it makes your smile look great. You just gotta smile a bit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never lose your cool. Even when you're being tested to your limits. Don't let them see your emotions. Stay level-headed and cool.
personable smile. really let's people feel invited, and increases chances of coming off as attractive :) also manners! politeness, hard work ethic, ect.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SpyJuz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do love how this post has turned into group therapy for most of Reddit.
few small things i'd like to add to: Dress to impress. I'm an introvert myself so i don't like to go out much, but when i do i like to dress fairly nicely; nice pair of jeans, (i like to stay away from the basic denim) i have tan, gray and dark purple jeans all straight slim fit. (not super tight like tights, but loose to be comfortable in but not too loose that it looks like you don't know your own pants size. i typically wear nice fitted button ups, and a vest over it. My personal body type is one that's kinda slim but i have a kinda beer belly, so the vest helps give the illusion that i look slimmer and fitter than i actually am. Also something that will really help that's simple BUT takes a bit of research is understanding your complimentary colors, I'm asian, as such i have naturally a yellow tone of skin so i look much better wearing cooler colors in blues and purples. People just say wear whatever color you like, but if you wanna go that extra mile, honestly wear the colors that compliment you, it makes you look MUCH more attractive.
And get a hair cut, and not just ANY hair cut, don't go to some cheap salon or barber, go to someone that actually understands hair, and how it can compliment your specific facial structure and contours.
this was mentioned a lot but remember to smile at anyone that looks at you, a smile just goes a long way to subconsciously portray you're a positive person, everyone likes a positive person.
Bohzee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
use body language.
facial expressions is the spice in food of your social interactions!
vashzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothing that fits and compliments your features\figure.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your words make you attractive, simple to do - no sarcasm under any circumstances, don't judge others (and there's no justification for being judgmental, you don't know their story), no put downs, and honestly, stop swearing. I'm trying to cut down on swearing but even one small 'shit' that pops into your convo changes peoples' perception of you. Your words can make you ugly quick and that's one thing anyone can change.
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grooming eyebrows... just tweezing the little outliers makes a big difference.
Also dressing in flattering colours & cuts - it's worth the extra time to figure out what works and to be pickier when shopping. Don't wear clothes with logos/brands/text unless it's something that expresses something about who you are.
Smile at everyone. It doesn't have to be a real smile, but believe it or not your fake smile still has a positive psychological affect on yourself too, as well as others enjoying your smile.
It is exactly like saying things over and over to yourself (affirmations), your brain believes it. See also the placebo effect.
Sazbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be appreciative.
LeifRoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find that attractiveness is subjective, and often more related to how you act compared to how you look.
How to be a person people are capable of respecting:
Do not talk shit about those not currently present, it only serves to make you yourself look weak.
Encourage others, even when you disagree with their opinion. Unless it is of grave importance.
Be humble, show appreciation and smile. In the words of Frank Underwood, you are not entitled to anything.
Stand for something, be passionate about it, but always in a positive way. Be it a hobby, work or a general interest.
Show restraint, do not let your emotions control you. Respond instead of react.
Understand that confidence and happiness is created within yourself, not given by others.
Respect is a two way street, you have to give in order to receive. So dress appropriately, brush your teeth, make damn sure you do not smell bad, and respect your surroundings.
Understand there is no bad intention, there is not dark and light, do not disrespect A if you yourself prefer B.
The only true fool is the person with a closed mind, who thinks he has nothing left to learn. Try to learn something new every single day, and notice how much more interesting your conversations become.
Charisma is the combination of showing power and warmth.
Talk to someone with no inhibitions and be honest. My new girlfriend does this with me and it makes me have so much more comfort and confidence in our relationship. I am experience the feeling of attraction like I never imagined is possible before she talked to me for the first time.
melesana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do things you enjoy. When you feel good about your situation, your presence feels more attractive.
Wear clean, neat clothing that fits you properly. Maintain your outward appearance by keeping your hair and skin clean and styled/trimmed. Smell good, but don't over do it with cologne/perfume. Carry yourself with confidence, even when you aren't. Stand up straight, smile, and breathe.
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1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except for maybe the clothes, all of these are not simple
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1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats irrelevant.
besides, pain is your body telling you not to do something
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1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you delivered a wrong answer because they arent simple
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1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh no, someone on the internet said you were wrong! must be a troll.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course this is personal opinion, but my biggest pet peeve is when a man is unkempt. Guys, take care of yourselves. Get regular haircuts. Don't have a neckbeard, and shave carefully. Treat any acne as best you can. Exercise, even if it's calisthenics like pushups, sit ups, running, etc. Your body will make dramatic improvements-- you won't be huge, but it's a foundation for a better body. Don't wear rumpled clothes. Wear deodorant. No one is responsible for maintaining you but yourself.
All of these are great and they are right! Gym, good posture, drink water, dress in well fitted close, etc, etc....but if you don't control yourself outside of these or even do them to excess it is bad.
Alcohol-Moderation...Same goes for soda. You will be shocked by how much weight you lose by cutting your intake from these in half.
Exercise- I know a lot of people who spend WAY to much time in the gym. You do not need more than an hour for a work out.
Water-Funny i know but you can poison yourself drinking too much water.
Guilty Pleasure?- Nothing wrong with it! But again MODERATION!!!! Once or twice a week for a little bit. Maybe not over two hours is OK! I promise youll be fine, but you have to control yourself.
Trim your nails. Keep them trimmed. If they have to be long, at least keep them uniform and clean. I have gone on many dates with men with dirty, untrimmed fingernails who don't even consider how off putting it is. It's unhygienic and if you're thinking you can touch someone down there and not cause her to wince and pull away, think again.
Mars8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really simple depending on how you see it but losing weight can have a big impact in looks. Personally I think everyone should at some point try to get low on body fat just to see what they look like and how they feel. I've never been obese but in elementary to beginning of high school I was a preety chubby kid, and alot of fat would accumulate around my face, so I personally thought I was unatractive which hindered my self confidence. After loosing my weight I was night and day in comparison, way more talkative, confident, and less introverted. And when you think about it, it's preety easy to do, just eat less lol.
Nenor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit that are appropriate for your age / occupation.
FourGigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When walking anywhere, even to a public bathroom, even if you don't know where you are going, look like you do. Have good posture, walk quick and appear to know where you are going with purpose. People are attracted to confidence.
Pada0613 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise
sukicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maintain facial hair: Boys and girls. Boys: maintain a haircut. Get one every 2-3 weeks. Make sure your clothes fit. This is big time. Done wrong, It can make you look larger or smaller than you are. Boys, Mani/pedis aren't just for girls. When I see I man with hard hands but clean, good nails I take notice. Make sure whatever shoes you're wearing aren't and deaths door. And overall, be nice. Just be nice to people.
Jardejay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of yourself; Wash your body and face frequently and some yoga or something for posture. Read a lot and do not waste time on people who disagree with you, find people who will shine you without you even needing to change.
Wear pants that actually fit you please. If your boxers look like a chef's hat exploding from a denim syringe it is just as bad as a person with a dime in their pocket that is clearly tails side out.
ipeench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence.
H_M_C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exhibit enthusiasm in your daily life! I can't tell you how many times I've noticed someone who is enthusiastic and energetic from a group of people. It's contagious! People want to be around people that seem to enjoy life, not someone who is constantly moping around!
Mine isn't necessarily a tip on how to be attractive but great life advice.
Anything you chose to do, make sure you do it consistently. Whether it's fixing your diet, exercising, fixing your posture, smiling, taking better care of you hygiene. Consistency is soooo important.
You will always have a downtime in your life where your routine or schedule falters and if you are just doing something based on motivation, I promise, you will return back to your bad habits.
Consistency leads to discipline and you will be surprised at what you're capable of doing once you completely put your mind to it and do it CONSISTENTLY.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bath. Brush your teeth. Clean clothes that aren't wrinkled. Brush your hair. I'm not saying hours and tons of money. I'm not saying follow trends. All I'm saying is show you have some pride in yourself.
Nail those things, and you're through the first hurdle of opening a conversation. And if you are asking someone out, set a day and time immediately. Also, don't make them choose. You asked them out, have a plan. My husband spent 8 years saying "we should get dinner sometime." And I politely blew him off. Then one day he said "put on a dress, I'm getting you at 7." And I began to change my view of him. Then 4 more years passed, abd we started dating.
sarochka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygiene! Be clean and smell good. Keep your skin exfoliated and moisturized. Nobody likes ashy (or, even worse, flakey) dull looking skin.
No matter what your personal style is, make an effort to get dressed and fix your hair (and/or makeup) every day and wear your clothes with confidence.
Seeming like you have your life together. It can be as easy as getting any task/work/homework/studying done before the actual deadline. Which will raise your confidence and give you more time to work on your self.
Always, Always, ALWAYS, make sure that your nose is clear of any hanging snot before going out or especially before filming anything. Whenever I see someone with a hanging booger, it takes away all possible focus on whatever they are saying.
Something that's cheap, simple and doesn't require an immediate change in your personality is ironing your clothes.
Especially for guys, having a crisp and ironed shirt and pants will make you look smarter, more organised, more approachable and ultimately more attractive!
For women: please shave the slight peach fuzz on your upper lip...
dee62383 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shaving it will make the hair look thicker when it grows back in. There are better options. But yes, keep that hair off the upper lip! Or don't. It's your choice, honstly.
Mr_Mo56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โบ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, have good posture, shower, wear properly fitted clean clothes, be confident in your own skin, and have determination/drive/focus or goal in life.
There should always be a matching pair. No more or less than two, and they should be symmetrical. They should not be so commanding as to draw attention away from your eyes, nor should they be conspicuous in their brevity.
If your eyebrows do not meet these criteria, employ tweezers, wax, pencil, tint, or a beautician as appropriate. This applies to men as well as women.
ImDotTK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth.
People wont want to run away while you talk, and you'll also have a nice smile.
Treat others as human beings, not goals. I can't describe how much of a turn off it is when guys pursue a girl as some sort of a nightly objective to get a number and take home, rather than a human being to interact with (I say guys do this because I happen to be female and get this a lot; not sure about the male experience with this).
Honestly, a person who empathizes with you is far more attractive than a person who puts you on a pedestal, or treats you like a trophy.
Take a fucking shower. Brush your fucking teeth. Maintain your hair, whether you like it short, medium, or long, just maintain it. It's really simple, guys.
I can go the gym, and lift some weights and can become physically attractive, read some books and I can become intellectually interesting, I may sweep a female President of a country off her feet and may become socially attractive.
sisco98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wearing a shirt instead of T-shirt can make significant difference.
Attractiveness is not only in looks or posture, but also in personality. Be honest. Not only with yourself, but with others. This will also get rid of anyone who only focuses on your looks and didn't care about who you are as a person
Attractiveness is not only in looks nor posture, but also in personality. Be honest about what you think and/or believe. This will get rid of anyone who only cares about your looks
As a man I find that using face lotion every day after I shower makes my face look much more alive. I use Aveeno Daily face lotion which is light enough that doesn't cause me to break out. On days when I have to shave I use Jack Black Beard lube to shave then Jack Black post shave lotion on the bottom half of my face followed by the Aveeno for the top half of my face. I noticed a difference almost immediately. I highly recommend all Jack Black grooming stuff, it helps you not look like a dead body.
Zilakit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly even minor eyebrow maintenence goes a long way in your overall facial appearance for both men and women. (Guys it can be as simple as shaving the middle to avoid those semi unibrows/permanent scowl appearances.) They dont need to be thin or perfect, but you'd be surprised how much more approachable you'll look because of it.
Joe1972 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spend some time doing power poses. It'll translate into feeling more confident and confidence is attractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't submerge everything you eat in ranch dressing. It's disgusting.
For a man: Pay attention to grooming. This is key. You don't need to go all metro but cover the basics: tweeze all ear hair and visible nose hair. Tweeze between your eyebrows to avoid unibrow. Shave the back of your neck. Treat pimples as they occur and take excellent care of your teeth.
Finally, wear nice, well fitting clothes when possible and maintain good posture. Eye contact and a firm handshake at all times.
madkeepz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read books. And don't be afraid to discuss them even if the other guy hasn't read it (providing sufficient background of course). No self-esteem/fantasy cheap sagas crap, just good ol' decent literature
Spiel88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regular exercise is an incredible mood elevator, stress reliever, and makes you look and feel healthier.
Cultivate mass and become the monster you were meant to be.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use some concealer and foundation, no matter your gender. The point of those two particular types of makeup is to smooth your complexion and hide blemishes while being as unnoticeable as possible. If the girl you date can't stand a guy who does something so simple and subtle to improve his looks, then you're really dodging a bullet.
A little late to this, but I'd like to add anyway.
Keep your eyes open. Not saying you should look shocked all the time but if you put a little effort into holding them open so they're not half closed it goes a long way in making you more attractive.
Gentzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1-Look them in the eyes
2-Big smile
DonTatu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop swearing every other word or in general swear less, even when having a some what heated conversation. At some point in your life, you start to see it either as plain dumb and childish, or even disgusting.
Then you realise you're getting fucking old.. and shit just doesn't matter the fuck anymore.
lediath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean.
Dabernie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KiDCruS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:22 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow I didn't see this one. PAY ATTENTION TO THE OTHER PERSON. This is advice for both genders. Don't text and stare at your phone while we have a coversation. Regardless of how good looking you are it makes it seem like an ass and it's annoying.
If you're single and looking for a successful and handsome guy... don't complain about men. Especially on online dating site profiles. Don't complain about men only looking for one thing. Don't act disgusted at the thought of shirtless photo showing our hard earned abs. Don't remind guys not to send photos of their penis or not talk about sex. Don't complain about not being able to find a good man.
No matter how good looking you are... doing this kind of crap just makes you look bitter. It makes good, decent men think you hate all men and have a history of making poor choices in the guys you date.
You made the choice to try dating online where you KNOW there are going to be assholes. Ignore them and move on. Otherwise, you end up looking as bad as the jerk with the shirtless penis pic.
Trim your neckbeard up to your jawline. Frames your face better and looks cleaner.
GO TO THE GYM. Literally the number one thing you can do to increase your sexual value to the opposite sex. 45 minutes a day, 4 times a week and you will see results in a week or two. Crazy how girls are fans of big muscles and chiseled abs.
Buy some good fitting clothes. When in doubt wear a black tee and some darker jeans.
I did all these things in a crazy turnaround after breaking up with my ex and the amount of female attention I got compared to before was seriously shocking. Never going back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
4 times a day
You mean week, right? Because 28 sessions a week will rip you to pieces unless you're just walking or lifting five pounders.
Groom your eyebrows. No, you don't have to turn them in to perfectly formed shapes and no, it doesn't make you some sort of homo.
I used to have wild, bushy eye brows but now I keep them shaped up. They can seriously frame your face and improve your facial aesthetics in a matter of seconds (assuming you don't already have "normal" eye brows).
hoklem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YES! Eyebrows can absolutely make or break a face.
buckus69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut carbs out of your life for a month or two if you're just slightly overweight to obese - universally makes people hotter, unless they're already really thin.
Being confident and social to your woman is good, but don't let it stop there. When you're with her, be positive and confident to those around you. On a date? Ask the waiter how his or her day is going. Make conversation. Greet people as you're walking down the street. Hold the door open for others. Throw out some compliments about someone's dog or how cool you think that last guys hair was.
Girls are attracted to you as a character, not just how you treat them. In my experience I've been told that my interactions with people seem to come naturally and that they admire that side of me. It seems to really interest women more than being a confident person to just them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is "lose weight" not the top comment?
ruinher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most women will crush and shatter your heart into a million pieces. Acquire money instead.
This is easy. Look healthy: 8 hours of sleep, square meals, light exercise, makes you more sociable in general. For expert level: make a lot of money and don't be a dick about it.
I'm gonna give the tips I feel like have worked for me as a male who's attracted to females:
Keep the back of your neck line trimmed between haircuts(get a haircut once a month if you can, if you have short hair. No more than every other month)
Try to dress well[accordingly to the event](You fedora neck beards with your ties and vests at every event you go to)
Smile at everyone (not just the cute girl or guy)
Walk with confidence, smiling will help too
Enjoy whatever it is you're doing at that given moment.
Lastly, don't be so apologetic. If something happens don't automatically say sorry. It may not even be your fault, dammit.
Give a fuck about being healthy. Eating, working out, and resting right (+ mind & spirit) and in return..... if you take care of your body - your body will take care of you via:
Better health
Better vitality
Oh and by the way...... you'll look more attractive to desired sex to which you want to be attracted to
Truth that can't be denied
It's just how bad you want to achieve your achieve your goal
An entire post for people who want to get a girlfriend but not put forth any actual effort to do so. Great.
mrnagrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make more money
KMFDM781 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a fat guy. I'm decently attractive for a fat guy...but I've never had any issues getting girlfriends. Coming from a super mega shy personality at school, I learned that, for me anyway:
Make an effort in your appearance. You don't have to buy expensive, name brand stuff, but if it looks taken care of and new, it makes a difference. Keep shaved and trimmed. Keep your nails clean....don't have stains on your clothes, don't wear nasty dirty shoes and socks.
Smell nice. If you're broke and you can't afford anything else.....but some really nice cologne, body wash and lotion. Do research and find out what girls think smells good. Don't overdo it.... I usually put a very little cologne on right out of the shower when I'm still damp..usually on my neck, chest and arms....seems to get into my skin better....then i use a nice scented lotion in the same areas. Use Gold Bond on your junk. Make sure your breath smells good..get a good mouthwash and use it more than once through the day and brush regularly.
Hold your head up. Don't always look down....look at girls in the face and don't shy away from their eyes. Even if you are intimidated do not act like it...exude confidence even if you have to fake it...girls love a confident guy...not cocky and conceited. Even if you're not that attractive, girls will wonder what else you have going on if you're so confident. Shit works.
Good personal hygiene, active effort to neither dominate nor remain outside of the conversation, show interest in other's (if you are like me you may have to practice this), dress in a way that suits the body you have, smile (even when you are not happy, people respond positively to your smile eventually making you happy).
Take selfies everyday. I believe it helps making you accept the way you look which will reflect automatically on your confidence that makes attractive people attractive. Attractiveness comes from inside.
PseudoY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can hardly think of anything I find less attractive then seeing someone take the third selfie on that day.
ixlHD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything here seems to revolving around the same notion Change yourself fuck that, be you, walk the way you want, talk the way you want, wear what you want.
It's your life you're living, do whatever makes you happy, being happy is attractive, eventually you will find someone who likes you for you and not for the fake shit you have going on to make yourself look more attractive while turning your happiness into sadness.
A little mascara goes a long way. Actually makeup in general. It's made to enhance your beautiful face, not hide it!
ahuevo91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just gonna say to start wearing earrings if ur a girl lol but advice here is way deeper lol so I'm just going to take my pretty earrings and walk away discreetly
"I'm just going to take my pretty earrings and walk away discreetly" HA! Thanks for the laugh. I always thought this was a good piece of advice for females.
wjbc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.. Spend some time doing something that you like, which fills you with happiness and causes you to feel good inside and smile. People are more inviting when they feel good and exude warmth and satisfaction. When we share this side of ourselves, people are more likely to feel comfortable being around us and engaging with us.
addrae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TONED BODY: exercise 3 times per week. jogging, intense hiking, push ups, and pull ups, anything that makes you sweat and leaves some muscles sore. Increase your protein intake, decrease carbs, cut out all sugary drinks like soda and juices and eat less bread/wheat/carbs
WHITER TEETH: brush 2x daily, floss every other day. Use a bleach kit with hydrogen peroxide gel and the mouth piece you leave in for a while to make ur smile really noticeable.
HEALTHY SKIN: shower daily with natural soap (SLS / sulfate free if possible). Install a chlorine shower head filter in your shower for softer skin and hair (most public water is damaging and drying). Apply lotion to face neck and body if desired, after every shower to lock the moisture into your skin. (This can make you look much younger and you will age very well).
SMELL: don't ever be "that guy"... use deodorant and Cologne or scented spray. And breath mints / gum!
EXTRA PEACOCK FLAIR: get a nice haircut every month or so, you might have to pay a little extra bit you can Yelp some good salons in your area. Check out the men's fashion magazines and blogs for some classic fashion looks that will work with ur style. Get a nice wardrobe together. Button up shirts, slacks, dress shoes, luxury watch, sun glasses, are the basics. Try to go with form fitted or slim fit items, not baggy yet not too tight.
Congratulation, if u do all this and your weren't previously morbidly obese, overweight, or hideously ugly then you are most likely attractive now. See how easy it was?
Floss your fucking teeth. Every day, at least once. Biggest cause of bad breath, and I've read that flossing your teeth every day will extend your life by up to 7 years...reduces heart disease.
redjd777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys : Have an actual hairstyle. Doesn't have to be complicated, just INTENTIONAL. You instantly look more mature and like you have your shit together. Second, take atleast minimal care of your skin. If you have dry spots, dry lips, iffy looking moles, lumps or bumps get it taken of. Girls notice things like that and it says something about not only your hygiene, but how well you take care of yourself in general. Remember, your skin is your largest organ!
What you could do is kill a person of the same gender (or different gender if you wish) that you find to be attractive. You then carefully and I stress CAREFULLY cut the skin of that person off. try to keep the skin as one whole piece but if you have to split it a couple times that's not too bad. To accomplish this I personally prefer to use a boning knife as it is more flexible but any knife will do. Then simply undress yourself and slip into this beautiful skin suit and voila!
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming this is aimed at a stereotypical reddit user?
Fix up your wardrobe. Buy a pair of boots/brogues/versatile trainers(eg. Vans, Stan Smiths etc). Don't wear bootcut jeans or anything of the sorts, very unflattering and you end up with a hijab for your footwear. Also, wear flattering glasses if you need them, don't pick ones which look awful on your face.
Sort your hair out. I've seen that loads of people here cut their own hair, which is crazy in my eyes. Go to a barber, and find the right cut for your head shape. If you like a certain haircut, find a picture, save it on your phone and show your barber. Also, don't grow your hair out long if it's thin, it makes you look like an angsty teen who listens to too much Linkin Park. Also, those with hair loss, accept your hair loss and embrace bald life. Use conditioner after you wash shampoo out of your hair for healthier hair. If you can't grow a beard, trim those fucking pubes off your face. If you can grow a beard, tame it.
Brush your teeth, floss, SHOWER, trim your finger nails, use deodorant and trim any nose hair and ear hair. Trim your pubes too, makes your dick look bigger.
Don't start conversations to be argumentative. Chill sometimes. Listen to what people have to say. Have some hobbies that don't revolve around video games, board games and bernie sanders. Do what you can to stay on top of social media trends, useful to use in conversations.
Chill out, and try to feel like the coolest person in the room. No, don't be a pompous ass because of it, but it may help your confidence so that conversations and interacting with people gets easier and more enjoyable. Just be chill in any situation and just play it as you normally would.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men: Money
Women: Boobs
/drop the mic
34gu ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a woman: balance your BMI and buy some makeup.
If you're a man: increase your income and/or social status.
EVIL9000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
for women, your income and or social status hardly matters. Most women like humor, honesty, confidence and good hygiene.
34gu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:36:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woman, please. Stahp.
EVIL9000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:56:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not my fault you lack character and think money and social status makes you attractive. The only think that attacks in your formula IS the money, and the social status, not you. "Even if a monkey wears a golden ring, it is and remains an ugly thing"
34gu ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you shooting the messenger? Check any psych 101 text. It's just the way humans are and have evolved. Men want physical appearance and women want socio-economic status.
tehsophz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe don't think you know everything about people because you took Psych 101. I have my own job that pays my bills. I care more about someone whom i'm physically attracted to and is a good person than some dickbag with money and prestige.
34gu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:03:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't shoot the messenger
shoots the massager.
tehsophz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Leave my massager out of this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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34gu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course there are exceptions. There are exceptions to anything. I have no idea why people are taking this personally.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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34gu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:09:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh but men aren't shallow for primarily seeking physical attractiveness? Notice how no one is contenting that. I haven't had any men lash out at me yet, but several women already have.
Look, we all know everyone who's going to respond is a special little snowflake with a high level of consciousness beyond the zombie masses. Whatever. It's just an observation. If you look across human culture, there are varying standards of physical attractiveness. For example in some parts of Africa being really really heavy/large is considered beauty. The thing that doesn't change is the characteristics of a partner which are paramount to men.. and that is physical appearance. Same goes for women. It's just the way the human brain is wired.
Jimp0 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 19:48:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk slowly. It might seem simple but no one will notice you if you're constantly rushing around. I am a rusher by nature. After a long term relationship ended I was wondering how to get out there again so one morning I consciously decided to walk more slowly. I met a new boyfriend that afternoon. We lasted three months. It was good
Try not to wear stuff like gym shorts and graphic T's. Instead of shorts and short sleeve shirts are you style try khaki/cargo shorts with a polo. Just a little tip. Just try to look like you care what you look like.
Apparently, shave. I love my beards and I am lazy to shave but I started wet shaving with a DE razor for some nice close shaves and my wife can't get her hands off my face now.
Having a good haircut and just being well groomed on the head goes a LONG way.
Posture with your chest out (even for girls! - I like boobies but this honestly make you look more confident and sexy as a woman). That slouched look is gross D:
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:29:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be pleasant and friendly all the time. No matter what you look like people can't help liking a pleasant friendly person.
Isn't make-up the obvious answer? It can easily add 1-2 points (out of 10) to most women.
PadaWINE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:27:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The use of "I'm sorry" as a preface. Example, "I'm sorry, it's just how I feel" or "she wants to live her life like that?! I'm sorry, I disagree!" No you're not sorry; if you're sorry then don't say it.
cut your nails, get a haircut, iron your shirt and pants, buy adult shoes, get tanned, work out, join some hobbies that have 50% or more women, do more talk-worthy stuff, off the top of my head.
leifer2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more often. It'll change your confidence and make you more approachable.
Learn to style you hair, guys!
You don't need to just get a buzz or let it fall around your face. And I don't mean loading up a shit load of gel and doing some boring spikes.
Learning to style my hair added like +3 points to my looks.
The right hairstyle can balance your face out. I have a very wide, angular jawline and using styles that are high on top and short / swept back on the sides balances it out and makes it look more proportional.
cputnik ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:28:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight. Find a wall, put your heels against it and then lean back into the wall. Make your head touch too. Now you are standing up straight - you look taller, more confident, slimmer and all of that shows through.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be positive. Don't be a gossip. Have good hygiene. Smile. Be genuinely happy. Physically: pluck your eyebrows every other week, use a body and facial scrub once a week. If you have frizzy hair make sure you condition at the ends only and use a salon quality shampoo at the roots. Invest in a boar bristle brush if you have thin hair.
ohPunky ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Non-sarcastic response: shave your facial hair off and get a nice hair cut.
Gromit83 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:39:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised I had to say this but smile more. Honestly whether you have messed up teeth or not, people who smile more look happier and are immediately more attractive to me.
At home teeth-whitening and a little bit of a tan can go a long ways for both guys and girls. Not Hollywood overboard, but if you have a date, these are quick and easy things you can do to help yourself look more attractive.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:13:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know people hate being told to smile, I hate it too, but it honestly makes a huge difference. Attitude is extremely and a person's smile is a big indicator of their over-all attitude. First impressions are also important and if you're smiling when a person first sees you, you'll instantly make a good first impression.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's an indicator that they want everyone around them to think they've got a good attitude. Someone smiling all the time makes me seriously leery of them, never knowing when they are smiling for real.
Be more conversational (add to the conversation instead of just responding)
Smile! I think people who smile are more attractive, maybe bc they seem friendlier.
And lastly, drink more water! It may sound a bit stupid but it completely changes how you look. It makes your skin clearer and brighter, and you look younger when you're properly hydrated! And not to be gross but drinking water can keep you "regular" so you may look a bit slimmer and not bloated!
I was not personally asking you to smile. Personally idgaf. However the thread was asking for simple advice on how to make yourself more attractive. Smiling is simple. Studies show that a person is more attractive to others when they smile, and I'm pretty sure a shitload of the responses to this thread mention something about smiling in the comments. If you so strongly disagree with that advice then there are alot more redditor responses in this thread you might want to downvote and tell off for having such shitty advice.
Ladies don't put your makeup on with drywall trowel.
If you're fat, I could care less about your "personality". And drinking more water won't make a fat person attractive. Neither will perfect hair, nails, clothes and handbags which most fat women fallaciously believe make them attractive.
et1n ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:45:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People will make fun of your long hair and you WILL be a subject to mental and physical violence because of it. You either own it, or you run. You ran.
crestind ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:50:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bathe in human pheromones.
satan669 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:14:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit. Dress nicely, even if you do small things to improve your appearance people will notice, I usually just wear jeans and a plain t-shirt that is tucked in with plain brown leather boots. This looks infinitely better than baggy jeans with ill fitting graphic t's and skate shoes.
Also act confident, even if you aren't, fake it till you make it. Push your chest out, walk with purpose, and don't second guess your movements.
I'm really enjoying that most of the top comments aren't about changing something about your physical appearance. They are more about how you carry yourself. Very nice Reddit, you vain bitches.
Jar465 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:33:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout and fix your diet. Neither are that hard, plenty of info online and they will make you into the most attractive you.
I don't think it's necessarily complicated, but it definitely isn't simple. I assume when people think of a simple action, part of that means a quick action. It can take months to get into shape, and it takes a lot of dedication.
It depends, attraction is such a personal thing for everyone, understand that it largely depends on the person, if a person solely basis their potential mate by looks you may be trying to high dive into a shallow pool, if you want to be more attractive then you need to take care of yourself like a gay man, no kidding many females have told me that gay men really groom themselves nicely.
that's one, the second is you got to show you are in control of your life, being stable is very attractive to many females, this means you need to be as talented as possible in many things, every female knows every guy wants to drill them, you got to show interest but not enough to scare her, many females are scared because of all the negative experience with males being to aggressive, just remember if they put you in the friend zone don't waste time, they are probably a dizzy female and it's not worth it.
zortroz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:46:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have lots and lots of money. Carry a potato sack of it around with you.
if you're talking about physically attractive here are a few things. if youre a girl: wear a small amount of foundation, this will make your skin glow and look even. start taking vitamins for your hair and skin, this will make you feel good and look good!
I was walking around the mall with my friend the other day and was wearing one of those plastic fire helmets from Firehouse Subs and damn if girls didn't just walk up and start talking to me about it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:55:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out. Stop being so fat
makiaz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:37:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
good looking eyes, hair and lips
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:58:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Male:
Cut your nails extrashort, trim your beard if you have one (and don't force things if you can't grow it, shave everything).
Female:
Keep your nails clean and if you can wear clear nail polish (it's nothing and they will look neat), if you use makeup, make sure your foundation matches your skintone, cut your split ends, avoid dark roots if your dye your hair, choose wax over shaving, it damages the skin and hairs regrow overnight anyway.
Both female and male:
Shower daily, always smell fresh and nice BUT not too much! Wear fitting clothes and choose quality over quantity, don't wear dirty or damaged shoes, smile, be polite, avoid saying dirty words, and try to have a nice posture
Eat less. Cut your normal meal portion size by about fifty percent. You will lose weight if you are strong enough. As adults, we don't need as many calories to function as we may think. Simple....I did not say "easy."
(The next time you eat, make it a habit not to clean your entire plate of food. Leave some behind. Increase this amount with each meal.)
Start drinking more water AND IMPROVE YOUR POSTURE!
Let your hair & nails grow and refrain from being an idiot and cutting it short.
Also refrain from:
Getting tattoos
Getting ridiculous piercings other than your ears
Dying your hair a non-human color
Cursing
Staying glued to your smart phone and posting 10 selfies a week on instagram/FB/twatter etcetc
Participating in the hookup culture which is solidified to hurt your overall mental and physical health
Participating in hollywood/celebrity worship culture
Watching cable TV
Listening to feminism about how to be attractive and how to manage a relationship
Stressing hardcore over a useless career in an expensive college (stress adds wrinkles and takes a toll on your mental & physical health)
"but omg that is such an archaic view, people r modern and enlightened nowadayz, women can do all these things and still be feminine/sexy!"
No. And if you do all of this crap, you need not wonder why every quality man you ever loved has never loved you back nor committed for long to you. It's not because they were assholes, it's because you are not long-term GF/wife material.
Do:
DRESS FEMININE (wedges/heels, sun dresses, form-fitting clothing, etc, lingerie, etc.)
Work out often and shoot for a waist-hip ratio of 0.68 (studies show it bears the smartest children) and a BMI of 19 (top rated pornstars - who get paid for their bodies - average this BMI).
Eat very healthy
Submissiveness in women is not bad, no matter how much feminism insists in saying it is. Swallow (heh) your pride and submit to a worthy overlord
Exfoliate!
Brazilian wax often
As you can tell from this thread, Men have A LOT more to do to improve their attractiveness than women do. Chin up sport, study this post, and start today.
thats ridiculous. i for one love short haired women with like, a neon dye job and tattoos. this whole post is screaming early 20's secret neckbeard who "swallowed the pill". the only things that'd id agree with are water, posture, and a good diet.
I like that people know what they want in a person, but I am a strong believer in loving yourself before you love another.
Everyone has different tastes and different personalities. I happen to love tattoos, big beards and dressing comfortably.
And I would totally dye my hair purple if I could have it at work. :)
mrnagrom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh,
Don't give a fuck and keep being awesome, you'll find a significant other. Or spend your life on waist to hip ratios to attract idiots that care about that.
I love who I am and I have someone who loves me the way I am. So, I couldn't care what people think are "unattractive" about me. I'm happy, and that's all that matters to me. :)
You can dye your hair a natural color, let it grow, and do everything else on the list. The only thing that is permanent are the tats (not really) and a high sexual body count (hookup culture toll). You can easily reverse everything else, even obesity.
Good luck =)
mrnagrom ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:51:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if you're trolling or really believe this shit
Even better rebuttal to whatever it seems you "disagree" with, m8.
8/8 wood r8 again
mrnagrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So are you trolling? The shitpost you spewed is so stupid that i assume you're trolling but at the same time there are a lot of really fuckin' stupid people on reddit.
Even better rebuttal to whatever it seems you find "stupid", m8
8/8 wood r8 again m8, vol. 2
mrnagrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So are you trolling? Vol. 2. The shitpost you spewed is so stupid that i assume you're trolling but at the same time there are a lot of really fuckin' stupid people on reddit. Vol. 2.
;)
No blue hair. Can't have unnatural hair color working in a Hospital. Just tattoos, graphic t-shirts, blue jeans, tennis shoes, Netflix. video games, work and College.
My hair is pretty lengthy, but I've always loved short hair. Will probably cut it soon. The boyfriend suggests a pixie hair cut.
I feel most attractive when I'm being myself and being that my boyfriend thinks I'm attractive, I think life is pretty good.
"short hair is so hot! better than long hair!" said no sane/healthy, straight quality Man with any nubile sexual options ever.
I feel most attractive when I'm being myself and being that my boyfriend thinks I'm attractive, I think life is pretty good.
Just saiyan. :)
Your BF sounds like a great guy, and sounds like he'd never leave your side no matter what you do. Does he have a brother? ;- )
If my girlfriend even entertained the thought of cutting her hair short, I'd immediately drop kick down a cement flight of steps and up them, cheat on her, and then tell her to fuck off.
Then again I am of the rare variety of Men nowadays with healthy hormonal (testosterone) levels with actual masculine values.
Well, that would be totally up to you to cheat on a woman for her choice in hairstyle. And I wish you the best of luck building a healthy foundation for a relationship based on your sad views of what makes a woman attractive.
My boyfriend loves me and that's all that matters to me. After reading your post, I feel extremely lucky to have such a loving and accepting guy by my side. :)
kek someone's mad they don't measure up. Those standards aren't just mine, they are every quality Man standards since the beginning of time (waist-hip ratios, low BMI, long hair & nails, feminine clothing and personality, etc.). Attacking me for adhering to a universal standard passed down to me by my ancestors and natural selection is the silliest thing ever. Like I created the universe LOL.
My boyfriend loves me and that's all that matters to me.
Noticed you never said you loved your boyfriend. It's because deep down inside you loathe him for settling for you, yet rationalize this away to feel better. He sounds like a true conqueror of women! LMAO
yungkef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's incredible how polar opposite our tastes are in women...
mrnagrom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GMmichel ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't Smile (Unless You're a Woman)
Guys, what's your first reaction when you see a hot lady person across the pudding line? Do you drop your eyes like a palsied eagle dropping eggs, or do you flash your pearly whites in an electrifying grin that would make even the most pious of nuns quiver? Well, it better be the former, because the latter isn't nearly as charming as you think.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just fucking smile girls!! Goddamn! How hard is it to just smile!! It makes a HUUGE difference.
Act like an ENTP. r/entp is the place to ask for tips
ep1939 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't believe nobody said getting tanned.
A few times in a solarium can give you a totally better and healthier look. Getting tanned also gets rid of panda looking eyes and make you look younger.
Another thing: Only very few people, especially man really look better in glasses. Consider wearing contact lenses.
Third: For man. Be a musician, that you play something, girls get an instant hard on for it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
girls get an instant hard on for it
I hope not...
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I shower I turn on cold water for ten seconds and stand there letting it drench my skin and hair.
It reduces damage to the hair that hot water causes, leaving it shiny, it also closes your pores so they don't get shit in them while they are open that result in pimples. 10 seconds only and makes a notable difference
As a man, I keep tabs on nails and toes. Why? If a woman keeps her nails and toes well manicured and taken care of, tidy and clean . .then her other parts get the same attention. This is a big thing. Smile and be happy even when you are sad. A woman's ability to control her emotions and sway them to the positive is a major turn on. Dress nice and smell good. I'm sure these are pretty generic but it's really that simple. You gotta give men that ONE THING that they absolutely love about you that they cannot forget and that separates you from all the other whores.
deveets ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hollywood has proven that you should always strive to be what you are not. If you are a brown person bleach your skin. If you are white use a tanning bed. Black Examples Nicki Minaj and MJ White Examples Donald Trump and the cast of The Jersey Shore.
dee62383 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Michael Jackson wasnt actually trying to be white. He had extensive vitiligo, which is an autoimmune condition.
deveets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna have to side with the speculators on the MJ thing. MJ was the human embodiment of a monochrome fucking gradient. Knowing his body issues and seeing the change of his skin tone throughout his life is too extreme to be explained by some skin condition. Either way there are tons of other examples like lil kim or sammy sosa.
Wear the proper fitting clothes. As a general statement, people probably buy a size big. Fitted/slim fit =/= skinny fit. Either find a brand that has a proper cut for you, or find a good tailor. A $20 shirt that fits you is WAY better looking than a $200 shirt that doesn't.
If you're self conscious about your weight, wearing bigger clothes to "hide" it has the opposite effect. It makes you look bigger.
Drink 8 glasses of water a day. Or just drink more water. So good for skin complexion. Girls ask my secret and when I reply that I rarely drink anything but water, they get a little angry over how simple my answer is.
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Back2Bach ยท 2410 points ยท Posted at 15:58:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your nose hair and ear hair.
thegirlonthesubway ยท 1466 points ยท Posted at 16:52:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as eat hair and for a moment I was really confused as to the lengths you expect one to go to for an attractive appearance.
agoesin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:33:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I thought they were implying you'd end up eating hair if you picked your nose and well... ate it
Tzintzuntzan24 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:25:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look up Hair Cake by TVFilthyFrank
InsiDS ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:30:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's not ready for Papa Franku.
Papa_Swanku ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:49:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was always ready.
NimbleWalrus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:57:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one is...
EstherHarshom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:47:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, everyone on this thread is recommending you floss. If you eat enough long hairs, you could floss your entire body.
sparkle_dick ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:00:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have trichotillomania and tricophagia (compulsive pulling and eating of hair). I only do it with thick hairs like beard or moustache and they don't really floss your teeth, just get stuck there and you have to floss to get them out.
RandyJackson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:53:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I, too, have this problem. I think I'm somewhat fortunate of my poor hair genes in that I'm almost bald so I keep my hair really short. But for awhile it was a major problem. I find keeping my hair short also makes it a bit more difficult to pull out which causes me to go longer periods without pulling. I'm trying to grow a beard now without having the urge to pull those but beard hairs are coarse and more fun to pull. If you can call it fun.
fizzlydizzly ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:05:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do not have this fucked up, sickening, sicko disease... But boy do I like to stroke and tug on my beard and mo
RandyJackson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:54:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool
Hypranormal ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:06:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how you get a bezoar. Bitches love bezoars.
SoManyNinjas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dingleberries are sooo hot
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've got to eat your fair share of hair or else Winterman won't come
wggn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many kinds of bread already contain hair so you probably got that covered.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you fucking piece of shit, now I don't want to eat bread anymore. Who the fuck is going to eat this PB&J now?
allwafflesnochicken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there chicken in it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no
circadiankruger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you accidentally a word?
eggbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/mAPBm_0ftAY
Gohack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might eat a bit of hair if it made me better looking.
unforgivablecursive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm making a poly juice potion to improve my attractiveness. Does anyone know how to get Matthew Lewis' nose hair?
Kev-Mo88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:47:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you arent by any chance the same subway girl from further up the thread are you? If so, what was your perfume of choice for the ol' undercarriage?
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:50:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you keep the nose hair from being so prickly and painful when you trim it?
moonerdooder ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:28:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just pluck em.
Jungle2266 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:17:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started to pluck but noticed I rubbed my nose a lot when they started growing back and it itches. Makes me look like I've just been for a line when I'm in the pub.
MeerkatAttack ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:09:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's my secret - i've always been for a line
Gohack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a little too real for me.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:28:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a good drinking game. As long as you trust yourself to stop plucking at some point
jpropaganda ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:48:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll agree with these other gents and say just pluck em. Added benefit - if you ever have to sneeze on cue, plucking a nose hair can make it happen!
And it's not like I haven't tried trimmers, back in the day I actually worked on a humorous website for an ear and nose hair trimmer.
CeiIingCat ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:59:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One day about a year ago, I was inspecting a zit on my nose when I noticed.
Nose hair is not pretty.
I didn't think I had any that poked out, but it turned out that I was wrong. It wasn't crazy or anything, but it made me feel unkempt and gross. The main thing you need to do is to feel good about how you look. Dress nicely. Keep yourself clean. Groom your hairs. Smell nice and stand up tall!
This_User_Said ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:22:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Threw a birthday party for a friend of mine. Anytime he talked to me... there were hairs that looked like octopus legs that came from the depths of his sinuses.
I agree with your comment. Please trim.
ghostdate ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:26:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it okay if my nose hair merges into my mustache hair, which merges into my beard hair?
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:03:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely not, we're not savages.
ghostdate ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:08:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hand me the trimmer!
watergate_1983 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:40:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't forget eyebrows. my gf rode my ass forever about my eyebrows until i finally did them and i look 100x better
BuyThisVacuum1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:07:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you pay to get a haircut somewhere, and the person is competent, they will usually trim your eyebrows. Just ask.
Wu-TangClam ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:02:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hired a guy once because I could tell he grew MOUNDS of ear hair but that shit was neat and trim every time i saw him. He knew, and he trimmed it- Meticulously.
Jajoo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:28:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How could you tell?
bastard_thought ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:45:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The taste
Wu-TangClam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:28:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could see the hair under the skin, you know like a beard, but it was smooth on the skin.
Violent_Sigh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:22:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was this relevant to the line of work or unrelated?
Wu-TangClam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was a carpenter, so it was technically unrelated, but tangentially related. I've hired many many carpenters and the ones that dress sloppy work sloppy, every time. Sharp dressed, they work sharp too. They aren't the ones using dull blades and recking the finish of the wood.
Demilitarizer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:35:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And eyebrows!
xDomoFreakk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:39:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We have ear hair?
TheDesktopNinja ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:59:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. Especially prominent in many (not all, lucky bastards) men mid -late 20's and up.
As they say, you lose the hair on your head, but it grows elsewhere. (I'm lucky enough to have two patches of hair on my shoulder blades! Yay! :| )
Killer_Tomato ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:21:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One day I thought I had one of my dogs hairs sticking out of my ear after some rough playing. I go to pull it out and its attached. I have an almost inch long hair sticking out of my ear. Then I see that I have more. Since then I have been on a crusade to make sure all ear hairs are plucked.
xDomoFreakk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:08:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would do the same.
GreatWhite_Buffalo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American men get theirs around the age of 60, Brits are born with wild ear hair.
freshbreeze987 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But do I HAVE to?
Bombastik_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I often pick up my nose. If it can help being attractive, I can put my recolt in my hair also.
Twat_The_Douche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, something for those past second puberty.
https://youtu.be/Veq4Oc8S7-I
DWillows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have zero ear hair. Though, i should probably buy some kind of nose hair trimmer or something. well, as long as it's not at the stage where it's poking out right?
heap42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how
ChornWork2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eyebrow too
stonefit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then how will I keep th Slithsik Demon out?
StabbyDMcStabberson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And back hair and shoulder hair.
PyrZern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... Ear hair ?? Like, sideburns ?
mphl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
solid advice
Some_Joe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, please! I can't look you in the eyes when you have wiggly dark hair coming out of your nostrils!!
SimplyCapital ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How fucking old do you think I am?
MonkeyDonuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how? Do I need to buy one of those new fangled contraptions or do I risk severing my nasal cavity and use scissors? Pls OP, you're my only hope.
Indoorsman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nose hair trimmers also work well on getting those stray hairs that grow around your eyebrows. It helps me quickly keep the shape with out having to sit there and pluck. I'm a dude so I don't worry about them too much but I try to make sure they aren't too bushy or all over the place.
BoomerKeith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've learned this as I've aged. It's like I hit 40, and my nose and ears shot out hair overnight. Now, I'm always worried I have a long nose hair.
LucianMp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an Indian I cannot stress on this enough.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also eyebrows. This goes for men too. Pluck that unibrow, clean up the rest. You don't have to get brows on fleek ๐๐ป, but some cleanup is good
Jokkerb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a 32 year old man of Irish/German descent and I'm starting to get black hairs growing on the outside of my nose around the tip and nostrils... Is that normal or am I going cro-mag? I already have a cro-mag hairy neckline on my manscape maintenance schedule, this is just another sign of my hairy ape-like doom.
LegendGames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as "Trim your nose hair and eat that hair" and was very confused for about 10 seconds
scur827 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, I knew a college professor whose nose hair came out and curled up around the sides of his nostrils like a handlebar moustache. It's pretty much the only thing I remember about him, couldn't even tell you the class.
Awasawa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever you say, Chef Franku
SkankyNun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neck hair too!
bicycle_samurai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He said SIMPLE things, man.
mlunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That and wearing a well kept pair of shoes, and a nice looking watch. My dad's good looking secretary told me girls loom at that for a first impression.
ngator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how?
rocketmkfx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kind of late, but is it true that pluckin your nose hair could cause an aneuvrysm?
EvilLemon23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then eat it.
Aperfectmoment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the hair on my shoulders is fine?
Nineties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:27 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
20 year old here, how do I do this without screwing something up?
tomocotaseco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use a lighter for your ear hair
-bishpls- ยท 4708 points ยท Posted at 14:17:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let your spit dry out close to your lips and form a grainy white coating.
RockGotti ยท 2389 points ยท Posted at 16:30:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guy in my workplace is like that.. nice guy, but im always scared a big gloob of white, starchy, melted shortbread looking gunk is going to escape the chasms of his lip opening and embed itself in my face.
[deleted] ยท 4086 points ยท Posted at 18:19:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Make... Make out with him.
EDIT: WOW, thanks for the gold! As yellow as the crust on the inside of his lips!
pedoduck ยท 1546 points ยท Posted at 19:17:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually dry heaved.
cail123 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 22:14:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually nae nae'd.
AlekRivard ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:42:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. I watched OP nae nae shortly after they whipped.
serrghi ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:31:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be new
Haussage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wet heaved.
Kong_Dong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should drink more water.
VelvetHorse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm rock hard.
SynthPrax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sprained my eyes rolling them so hard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dried lip spit is the line for a minor molesting mallard. Interesting.
jetpacksforall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than wet heaving.
lanesane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually wet heaved.
bufftart ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:58:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pussy
Actionmaths ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 19:19:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god dude.
downtowneil ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:28:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And slip him some tongue, DAMMIT!
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 20:34:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:06:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
literally the worst euphemism m8
leave his tatooine lips alone
akashik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:04:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate mouth smegma, it's coarse, rough and it gets everywhere.
A_favorite_rug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:49:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even know why I even go to reddit.
MattcVI ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck
emdeema ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't nauseous until I read "mouth smegma"
Bravo.
distract ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:43:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am...Am I...Am I supposed to touch the penis?
the__itis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:59:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spit in his mouth for him
Najd7 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:33:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You keep getting more and more disgusting you bastard, please don't add a second edit.
red-bot ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:54:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
xthereturn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Close shop, we found satan
michaltee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok now kiss!!!
TraderMings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put...put your dick in it.
InsectWarfare92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I DEMAND to know why this guys score is hidden! A+ comment.
SatanLordOfDarkness ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:28:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you new to reddit?
InsectWarfare92 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:00:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on the sub, a score will be hidden for an amount of time specified by the mods. This is to keep herd voting from happening, and allow for people to judge the comment's value for themselves.
awry_lynx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:49:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Until a few hours have elapsed, comment scores are hidden to ensure that people aren't just voting with how other people are voting.
bamforeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:|
Jebbediahh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like you knew you shouldn't, knew it was wrong, but you did it anyways
jakeinator21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Third comment in and this thread is ruined for me.
deano1022 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone else read this in Mike Pancakes voice?
tron2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
now kith
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A girl I was seeing earlier this year picked a guy with the mouth-crust over me. She left me for him. I know she kissed him and did a lot of other things with him.
I must be really ugly.
reddit_spelunker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
relevant username
babalusobral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try Steve...
zack_the_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soooo.... White?
MaybeThisWillDo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im eating cake. That was almost disgusting enough to make me stop eating it...almost...
BasicBeginner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You ruined your post with your edit
worksucksGOHOME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a kith
Awesome-o_O ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:12:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone needs to revoke your gold for that [Edit] comment...
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:16:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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207native ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:36:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For emphasis. EMPHASIS!
TheRedBaron11 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:32:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it was hilarious to do so!
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 20:10:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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warm-puppy-tummy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It implies a certain hesitancy because the idea is so gross.
Gtimike16 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:05:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ughh sat front row in a history class and the professor would do this. Scared shitless it was going to shoot toward me
pug_grama2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:23:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone got a picture of this? I'm not sure what you mean.
dasbeiler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have the unfortunate pleasure of having very active saliva glands. For some people it can't be helped.
Reading this saddened me, I have not really thought of this before. And yes my lips constantly shed.
Another reason to not go outside I guess, shoot.
RockGotti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, im a guy also so I cant comment too much on his attractiveness in respect of this thread title.. but his girlfriend is pretty stunning, so it cant be that big of a deal (to her)
darkharlequin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly you should tell him. Some people genuinely don't know.
RockGotti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dont think it bothers him to be honest, and ive not heard anyone else in work bring it up so its not really a big deal. It doesnt stop me talking to him, I just get distracted a little incase I get a facial.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have this problem, it's due to the fact I dehydrate really easily.
I will drink litres of water a day and just piss it all out for whatever reason, been like this for years. My lips and mouth dry up super easily and cause this/ sometimes cracking of the lips.
mrmojorisin2794 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, that was the most poetic thing I've seen on reddit today.
UltimateLawnChair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've read a lot of nasty comments on Reddit but this is the first to make me cringe. Get that guy a wet wipe!
MungTao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He might have a something called seborrhea. Maybe not, Just saying.
RockGotti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just Googled it, absolutely not lol
I remember Cyrus Grissom having a line in Con Air about "white stuff that accumulates at the corner of your mouth when you are really thirsty".. so I dont think its a medical issue. Maybe he just needs a drink, all day.
veggietrooper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously just do not understand what the fuck is up with this.
giveitago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, my name is Roseanne Rosannadanna.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you had the decency to tell the fella discretely he's got this issue?
RockGotti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no need its really not that big of a deal to be honest, if it were, the gossip mongers in this place would be having a blast with it. As it were, he's well liked and Ive not heard anyone else mention it, so Im happy to leave it be.
PersonFromPlace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ew, people actually do this? I had no idea that was an actually thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this happened to me when i was at a bar with a coworker, except landed on my sleeve. So fucking nasty.
Vaginocologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I puked in my mouth. Which is less gross than this. Seriously furious with you right now.
RockGotti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry!
Vaginocologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, so descriptive :p
master_dong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it sticky?
RockGotti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it looks... kinda thick. Kinda exactly like whats inside a Tunnock's tea cake.
SparklePeen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Open mouth kiss him.
Jacksonspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've never sat front row to a teacher like this? I needed an umbrella for my notes.
vajav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk up to him lick your finger then rub it off him, then walk away stop at about 5ft , look over your shoulder & wink
the13bangbang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 6th grade teacher had this problem. He often wiped it on students clothing and desks. It was pretty damn gross. Another funny thing about him was that he got caught kissing boys and got fired (catholic school) the funny thing is that he ran off and married a fella named Larry. His name is Chuck...
icanhe ยท 711 points ยท Posted at 19:02:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even understand how this happens.
infosackva ยท 430 points ยท Posted at 21:43:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have this a little when I was younger. A lot of it is to do with being dehydrated. Dehydration means that your spit id thicker and your lips usually get grooves as they dry. From there, especially if you talk a lot, it just builds up in the corners. I actually drink water now, so this doesn't happen any more, even when I talk a million miles an hour.
HappyChappie ยท 454 points ยท Posted at 00:31:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure?
infosackva ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 00:36:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My spit's no longer thick, but apparently my thumbs are dammit.
eizoop ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:02:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you know what they say about a guy with thick thumbs...
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
MrAxlee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They find gloves uncomfortable.
AadeeMoien ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:25:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That must be water weight from all the water you're drinking. An easy fix would be to drink less. Going until your spit becomes a bit thicker should do the trick.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i thwear to god it thoesn't happen anymore
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:08:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, can you repeat that? I couldnt keep up.
Question_4_you_guys ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:19:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This happens to me, but I drink SO MUCH. I'm talking like 3L or more of liquid a day. Do I need to drink more? I don't get it. I'm always thirsty so I drink shitloads but I still get that gunky stuff and always need to check myself.
electricrimson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:25:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3L might not be enough if you are quite active and sweat a lot. I've drank nearly 4L in a couple hours at the gym before. Otherwise, 3L should not leave you dehydrated.
DiggerW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen a doctor? Any chance you may have diabetes? Or do you just do a ton of activity?
Question_4_you_guys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't. But I also don't show any other symptoms (I don't think)
When I'm active I drink more, but I've always been super thirsty, just seems to have ramped up over the last few years.
I'll get checked out.
RhinoMan2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same exact boat dude, past few years or so I've noticed my mouth dries out a lot, especially when I'm talking or whatever, and I'm always having to drink water.
Gonna see a doctor as soon as I can
damir33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, idk what it could be but it's very annoying.
DiggerW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's probably nothing, but never hurts to check! If anything, I'm sure they'll have some good insight.
infosackva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm I'm not sure. Honestly, my dehydration thing is mostly anecdotal, since it worked for myself and a couple of friends I also got into drinking more water. Do you have braces at all? I also think, unfortunately, that your lip shape might be able to influence you likelihood of it.
mcrbids ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also much more likely when you have diabetes (which causes dehydration when your blood sugars run high).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only person I've ever seen with this had diabetes.
Free-The-Weed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I worked in a deli as a teenager I was talking to people all day and I can confirm that talking to people makes this shit build up. I got that shit constantly.
pyramid90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It happens to me often... I get dehydrated easily no matter how much water I drink. So always have to check and wipe my lips
HerpDerpenberg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wife calls this butt hole lips.
serialmom666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mouth breathing causes it too.
seekaterun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! Today I learned. Happens every now and then to me and always wondered why. I need to drink more water :/
ice_lady3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just smile and be yourself, i know everybody told you that before but it's true. I swear
jimmy_the_jew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did you drink when you were younger??
Mistercheif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He went through a Bear Grylls phase.
infosackva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just didn't really drink much of anything. Half a glass of milk in the mornings, and then not even 500ml of water in the day, and this eventually tapered off to nothing in the day. Eventually, you just stop realising you're thirsty since dehydration is the default.
Illusions-by-Jesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get this especially after sleeping, I usually leave it there for an afternoon snack when I'm on the go
Kokiri_Salia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like crabs making foam bubbles when they're on the dry for too long.
Walibex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh boy it all comes together now, I sometimes have this when I do a certain type of drugs, luckily my friends always make sure I clean my face๐
[deleted] ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 20:21:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always have it when I wake up in the morning. It's terrible.
Feartality ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 20:45:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. The first thing I do every morning is brush my teeth because of it. The stuff just feels awful.
[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 22:23:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have to try to drink orange juice after brushing your teeth, it will feel fresher than mint
[deleted] ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 22:45:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
calm down satan
LysandersTreason ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:27:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who has no problem drinking OJ after brushing?
Care_Cup_Is_Empty ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:13:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes.
fuckitimatwork ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:50:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I'm sleeping on my mom's sofa she'll try to wake me up with coffee.
"Nope note gotta go brush my teeth before I even open my mouth to someone"
PeperAndSoltIt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:06:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could also be toothpaste
Feartality ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:56:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it's not tooth paste. It's like... white gunk and it smells AWFUL. I think it comes from mouth breathing in your sleep.
MAhmed91 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:52:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere it is due to the toothpaste you are using. I think it occurs more with whitening toothpaste. Cant remember where i read it.
virtualghost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:57:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, it sucks
walkingtheriver ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:48:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. First thing I do in the morning is wash my mouth and scrape that shit off. It's annoying and disgusting and makes me anxious about still having it once I wake up next to an eventual SO. Yuck...
mcbain41231 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:31:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why I don't understand (and never will) why people like having sex in the morning.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:45:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously!! Your breath is disgusting. I usually have to go pee right when I wake up. Just ugh. I hate morning sex.
yamato57 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:43:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're drooling in your sleep :)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There should be no judgment of bodily weirdness first thing in the morning.
Afrood ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:54:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People who lick their lips a lot
Zee_Mug ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:26:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh fuck. That's what causes it.
QueenJillybean ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:14:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
will someone not get him chapstick???
snoharm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The adult solution is to buy a ChapStick. Licking your lips just dries then out more, anyway.
virtualmayhem ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:46:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It happens to me (and many other teens) who are on Accutane. It makes your lips drier than California during august so this kind of stuff is unavoidable. Also, perpetual chapped lips
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:16:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure everyone is mistaking this for dryed skin. The white stuff is dead skin that died from dehydration.
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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visiblysane ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:43:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should probably call someone. Humans with rabies might be a bit problematic. Don't you think so?
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:53:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BARK!! BARK BARK BARK!! GRRRRRRR.....
Captainkanuckles ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:11:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what kind of people let this happen
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:52:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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danzey12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:35:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how I have so much spit in my mouth all the damn time though, I was like, low singing along to some music in work and could hear myself fumbling over the words because of the damn lake of spit in my mouth.
Why doesn't it stop?
JayJayMyles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder this too. I drink TONS of water and yet I have to constantly stop talking to swallow excess spit. WHYYY!!!???!!!
icanhe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lovely.
PlNKERTON ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This kills the girl.
AptCasaNova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The saliva degrades the lip tissue a bit
rnrigfts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Nuked. XD
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happens to me when working out, especially running.
Rlaumnalde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know people did this.
trippingandlifting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:06 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol yes bro that foamy white shit around your mouth when u got chapped lips shiet looks gross af
emilyjoeckel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't either until high school (close to ten years ago). I had a teacher named Mr. Fatheree and he had a penchant for yelling at us at all times, even if it was positive in nature. Usually it wasn't. He would have glob of white, nasty spittle between his lips as he yelled, and I was always waiting for that exclamation that we were "SAD!" or "EMBARRASSING!" that would be the straw that broke the camel's back and that glob blob would just fly on someone.
Never did.
Goddamn he was my favorite teacher.
xtxylophone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happens in my sleep a lot, usually need to wash it off in the morning
PeperAndSoltIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I see it on myself it's toothpaste I didn't completely rinse off. It's also blue as well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mouthbreathing.
Augustus_SeesHer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you go outside for a while and its below freezing seems to fuck them up
BuyThisVacuum1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I take a couple of medications that give me constant dry mouth. In my full time office job I can manage, but my part time retail it can start to get really bad, really fast. I have a couple people that will give me a heads up, otherwise I just make a conscious decision to wipe my mouth every few minutes.
Basically, it sucks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It only happens to me when I get really sick.
MegabyteMcgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
adderall is the only thing that has ever done this to my lips
radiosigurtwin ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:18:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a professor in college who at the end of a lecture would have full-on stalagmites and stalactites form into disgusting little pillars of spit on his fat, seemingly uncloseable lips. They haunt me, still.
angelamar ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:37:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good imagery!!
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:14:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How would you prevent this? By drinking lots of water?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wipe your mouth with a tissue
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:15:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, my father in law just CONSTANTLY has this, and I think it comes from his drinking problem. Good thing I never have to see him though, he's always taking my son out to do stuff in space and other dimensions.
Edit: I'm Jerry Smith and I looove sucking biiiig sweaty dick and licking disgusting, furry testicle sacks.
sebaz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:34:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh.
Name42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:39:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see now, thanks.
kindred7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude...
wiirenet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
totally thought rick just from reading the first line........
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:12:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice! Without the reference, that comment just starts normal and then goes completely insane. Which, actually might be better.
mama_cool ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:54:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ex did this chronically. The dried shit was bad enough, but he let it go BLACK. It was a deal breaker.
snappyirides ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:00:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
vomits
Bojuric ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:13:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/relationships is leaking
Grifos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:23:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can someone show me an image to what this looks like? i apologise im just trying to understand. english isnt my first language
cara123456789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:10 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
English IS my only language and I have no idea what this is referring to
Reid_bry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:51:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I fall asleep mouth opens and struggle with having a white tounge. I use a tounge scraper two times a day for about 2 weeks now and haven't noticed a difference. Is there anything I can do?
blammer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get hydrated I suppose? Keep a bottle of water close by and chug every hour.
Reid_bry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I drink two-three 32oz nalgenes a day. I'm legitimately confused about what I can do.
damir33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, idk what it is but it sucks.
blammer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd suggest something like getting a diagnosis using traditional chinese medicine but I don't know if you are open to that or if the TCM clinics in your area even have legit chinese doctors. It's basically an imbalance in your qi, generic answers will be that you sleep too late/liver is weak/etc.
Reid_bry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a minor and my parents.... Well are trump supporters so I don't think that's going to happen. Thank for the advice though.
droofe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking Bruce... it isn't like Bruce doesn't know any better, he is a professional speaker with multiple degrees from LSE, but god damn it Bruce wipe your mouth, take a drink, do anything but keep speaking with the white strings building up on your lips.
chimpansies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work with a woman who ALWAYS has dry spit on the corners of her mouth. It's so gross.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a guy like this, and when he talked his spit would like gurgle up around the sides of his mouth, you could see it. It was disgusting...
Thefantaranta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gracefully known as cum lips at my school
_gina_marie_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This drives me crazy I had a Spanish teacher like this in highschool. I couldn't stand to look at her because I had no idea what was going on and it scared me lol
Stormhammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, went on a date saturday and the girls lips were CAKED like this. It was disgusting. At least the food was good.
Hellknightx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you finding your dates? Craigslist?
Stormhammer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:03:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one was actually from match.com; turns out she has never had a relationship, was still a virgin, etc at like, 26 years old.
I wonder why.
superkp ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:54:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
perhaps you could tell her?
Don't doom her to a life without love just because of one thing that could be keeping her back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, don't hold spit in your mouth and then try to talk.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:35:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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_justin_cider_ ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:18:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gleek.
funkmastamatt ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:29:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think "gleeking" was the coolest fucking thing, this kid I knew in like 4th grade could do it and I could never figure it out. I remember being so jealous of this talent... now it just randomly happens to me on dates and job interviews.
angelamar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I keep a mirror at my desk to avoid this. The cold weather seems to make it worse tho. Staying hydrated helps!
AptCasaNova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you do this carefully your lips will seal up temporarily.. it's like the skin on tomato soup.
cowgirlsteph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a rising instructor who would have spit foamed up at the corners of her mouth. It was so weird and gross.
bashar_speaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had an ex who did that: a 30 year old virgin autist. Does that happen to normal people too?
UtterFlatulence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't want Jabba lips.
ColonelKetchup13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lord a girl I had a crush on had this problem.... kinda killed the whole attraction thing besides the fact she was just an awful persom
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nghhhh my mother always has this. It always grosses me out so much.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suffer from this and don't even realize how I'm doing it, and I don't know how to prevent it very well
smuffleupagus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God I was on a date with a guy once and this happened and then he got really pushy about me giving him a kiss even though I really didn't want to but finally I did just to shut him up.
He also made me high-five him every time we had something in common. There was never a second date.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just made 1,000 people wipe their mouths
cameronbates1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This kid with Downs on my bus does this, it is nasty.
wesandersonsgf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THIS ALWAYS ANNOYED ME SO MUCH WHEN PEOPLE DIDN'T NOTICE
I_press_keys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can I make that not happen?
OfferChakon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone ever noticed that DJ Kahled (however you spell it) is one of these people?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many people reading this are now doing this?
PopNTod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saw Hannibal Buress with this dilemma during his stand up last year. It was a small comedy club in Manhattan, so I got to see it up close. I'm assuming it was a good act, but I wasn't strong enough to remove focus from the frothy mess hiding on the sides of his lip as much as I wanted.
Pele_Of_Anal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At my work we call it the "lip cheese"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ex did this. D: 0/10 would not recommend.
deadfermata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell this to Rick Sanchez
Taste_like_Burning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife refers to these as "creamies"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like we're setting the bar a little low here.
babybush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how do people not notice they have this?
Ttyller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This always happens to me. When I realized I've been walking around like this, I feel like a SHITBALL.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a restaurant and this happens to me frequently. I try drinking more water, and not licking my lips at all, but it still forms. Any way I can prevent it?
oingo_boing_o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
like my friend on day 3 of a cocaine bender...uggh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its comments like this that make life worth living.
BobbyDOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cant be more true.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My "bible in schools " teacher had this so badly that I don't remember a single thing she said because I was too busy getting ready to dodge any projectiles. That's probably why I am an athiest now.
JamesTheJerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... Doesn't that just make you not look mentally challenged? Is that really an attractive quality, 'not' having white scuzz on the mouth? Wouldn't an equally attractive quality be not having three rats gnawing on your lip? Or not having a six inch wide hole from your belly button through to your back? Or not having a horizontal buttcrack perhaps?
"So, how'd your date go .. female??
"Oh he was a real dream! No mouth scuzz which I find necessary for my men to not have, much like a tail or an extra chin off to the side. I find it attractive when my dates don't have extra things that are weird. Veeeery attractive... (Wink!)
petites_pattes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, as someone who takes medication that causes drymouth/weird saliva issues, fuck. This has been happening to me and it's mortifying.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You tend to get that when you're dehydrated. So basically just stay hydrated and the bitches will be all over you!
dtnk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:26:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man!
[deleted] ยท 4416 points ยท Posted at 15:16:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
head up, shoulders back, and tighten your core when you're walking. if you want to look and feel more confident, change your posture, even if it means faking it (eventually you'll start to believe it).
learn to breathe correctly; a lot of people are shallow breathing fucks. breathe from your stomach not your chest and set aside a few minutes every day to take very deep breaths. this will do wonders for your stress levels. a weary heart is often times visible on your face.
drink more water, eat more vegetables, stretch, and exercise. If you don't want to go to the gym then get off reddit, put on music or a podcast, and go walk outside for at least 30 minutes every day. your body is meant to move, do it.
respect yourself and be much more gentle with yourself. people are finicky, one minute they like you, the next minute they don't. the only constant is yourself, so be more attractive for you.
Non_Sequitur_Ninja ยท 1224 points ยท Posted at 17:16:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your last sentence stuck with me. I've been feeling really sorry for myself recently with a girl ignoring me one minute and then showing interest the next. Thanks for that.
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 563 points ยท Posted at 17:51:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She's not worth your trouble then. If she doesn't want to commit to you, don't commit to her.
Had the same thing happen early 2015. Finally gave up on her after a stressful period of my dad having a heart attack and open heart surgery, then losing my dog after a month of her being in the vet ICU.
Decided I don't have time for someone that's going to change her mind on a weekly basis. I have bigger things to worry about and life is too short to give someone attention they don't deserve.
I_Saw_Boobs_Once ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 21:21:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man i needed to hear that too. Had a very similar situation after moving my parents to a new city and my one of them having a stroke, while I was trying to talk to some girl who was wishy-washy. Realized how trivial waiting for someone else to give you happiness is when you have so much more to deal with. Sure enough, everything comes easier now. Hope your pops is doing better! ๐ช
Filth33_3than ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:51:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you haven't showed full interest and are moving in between the zone of friends and flirting and nothing's happening you gotta break into it and just say I really like you will you go out with me sometime.
If she says no at least you know youve tried. Nothing worse then waiting and waiting and both of you getting tired of not making moves because you're afraid to break or disturb what you have with each other or how other people will see you (especially if you're in a small group where everyone knows eaach other).
All the best.
I_Saw_Boobs_Once ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:18:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse, I've already made my intentions completely clear, and got a hard maybe. Like "oh, I'd love to go out with you sometime/someday,". That doesn't really make me too confident y'know? I dunno at least tell me a definite answer, it's the least you could do right? Its kinda hot/cold; I'll just stop contact, and shell send me a sweet good morning text a day later. Its like she's interested back, but were barely scratching the surface. When we hang out, I can talk to her, but that's another thing; we can't hang out since she's always working or 'busy'.
_AMuse_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:27:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I'm going through this too... Thankfully I've got bigger things on my mind so it's not effecting me too much. I think that's the best way to deal with it; don't focus your whole life around whether or not you'll get this date. Keep conversations light hearted and if she eventually pulls through, you should have a date.
I_Saw_Boobs_Once ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:16 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I'm gonna try and do then; just keep on bettering myself. Hope your situation gets worked through man!
_AMuse_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:55 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks mate! Hope everything goes great for you too :)
Filth33_3than ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:03:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a hard one though. Its good you made your intentions clear but that's the thing. You gotta show your interest but find a balance between your pride and wanting her.
If I were you and there were no awkward group dynamics (friend's sister/friend's ex/family friend) and you have absolutely nothing to lose then you could go straight up, set up a date to just talk or hang out and tell her you really have to tell her something. Then when you meet just really tell her that you're serious about the relationsihp. Say that you don't want to feel like you didn't try your best. Maybe you can find out why she won't say straight up "no" and why it's a "maybe some day".
Truth be told, maybe she likes having you around but doesn't wanna commit because she wants to have the freedom to not be held down by a relationship. Each situation is unique but the advice I'm giving you is basically so that you dont end up down the line regretting that you didn't "try hard enough".
Nothing worse than a girl going "well....you asked that one time so I didn't know that you were interested". Or some other craaazy reason like she saw you hanging out with someone and made assumptions or she heard from a friend that you were also interested in someone else.
Its surprising how very little misunderstanding can change everything forever. So best thing to do is to put it all on the table, let her know your intentions and don't be afraid for her to say no. If she says no then you can rest easy and move on if that's what you desire.
I_Saw_Boobs_Once ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:12 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that first few sentences is what I'm struggling with to be honest with ya. I think I've got the balance down, but every now and again some intrusive thought will make me think crap like "Am I weightlifting right now for me, or so I can try and get her,". And it's stupid. Too freaking stupid. But I'm trying to break that train of thought.
And that's some really good advice, and how I feel I should really go about talking to her from this point forward. I mean, its honest, and there's really no way I cant get a respectable answer from it. You hit the nail on the head; I've always been so afraid of trying too hard that I'd end up often not trying at all, so now I'm just scared of not trying enough.
Thank you for taking the time out to help me better my situation, I really appreciate it :) Sometimes you just gotta slap your dick on the table and see what happens I guess!
DangerDamage ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:21:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeez what the fuck are you me?
This is LITERALLY my EXACT situation. She likes me back as far as I could tell, but after asking her TWICE, once out and once what her hard maybe meant, she fucking told me that her hard maybe wasn't a rejection and then gave me a really nice smile. Then she said she was busy to go out with me over holiday break.
This was a month ago, and since that interaction she 1. met a random asian dude 2. was infatuated with him since she met him 3. has ignored me over break and said she was "busy" when she said she would hang out with me and a friend 4. went out with the asian kid christmas eve and christmas day and a few days after.
Last contact I tried to ever initiate with her was I think the day after Christmas cause tbh I was just gonna ask "Is he going out with you now?" and just tell her, "awesome for you, guess I got my answer :P" and leave it like that, but she didn't respond to my "Hey, how was your Christmas?" text so fuck her.
Basically, if she's giving you that maybe, you fucking text that girl right now and tell her, "Look, it's not cool for you to string me along. Either a yes or no.". I don't like maybes even more after my situation.
I_Saw_Boobs_Once ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:16 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I am you. And I'm sorry to hear about that christmas; it sounds rough bro. But for real fuck that shit man its not fair for you to get toyed around like that. We should totally just forget about both of them and go out with each other loljk:) Thanks for the advice; I'll get an actual answer the next time I talk to her!
TheShawnP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:01 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys I'm unclear why any of you accept "Maybe" as an answer? It's a holding response. Basically saying "let me exercise my other romantic options and if they don't work we'll go out." Go out and find someone new. It's happened to me many times before. You are much better off with someone who,if they are busy, can at least tell you when they aren't.
DangerDamage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:03 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A maybe isn't a static thing. It has a couple reasons. One, she's laying off the hard "no" for a while later, or she's trying to deny you nicely. Another is she legitimately wants to explore other options before settling for you, which is stupid in it's own right and really should just be a no for her. Another is that she likes you, but she's unsure if she actually does want a relationship cause they could be going through some personal problems.
Either way, a maybe is not a no and that's the exact reason people will accept it as an answer. I won't anymore cause the first time I did, this girl decided to lead me the fuck on and I ain't dealing with that anymore.
TheShawnP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:07 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A static no? Maybe lol. Every which way you describe those maybes are derivative no's. What I derived from the description these were very premature stages of casual dating and a relationship shouldn't be on the docket anyways. If we're talking month 3+ and she's ducking messages, grow a metaphorical pair and leave it. Don't look at it for what it should be, look at it for what it is. First step of sorting this is communication and if you can't at least do that, it's done before it started.
LoliGuardian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:48 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. My girl dumped me for a Asian dude right before the Holiday season, saying that I wasn't there enough for her when he lives in another state. Ever since I see her status updates saying "I've never been so happy" and "He makes me smile" helplessly eat away at my core. But you have to keep moving. I've had people tell me that she left someone that genuinely cared for her to someone she's known very little of and rushed to. They say she will come back. I don't know whether to take her back even when she said she would never leave me for him and did 2 weeks later. I don't know if she will come back. But I do know this, and pay heed to my words.
Improve yourself. You are the only thing that you should truly care about in the end of the day. As selfish as it sounds you need the confidence. Maybe she will notice how great of a guy you are, adaptive to change and willing to.
So do what you have to do, be patient and if nothing works out, move on. I'm still waiting for the day she comes back to me. But I wont stop moving forward because of one person. Show her the best you can be and if she's blind to it, then she's missing out not you.
Best wishes brother.
DangerDamage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:52 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have to be honest, I'd probably not even take her up on even a hang out offer at this point, what she did was stupid to me.
Your situation sounds much worse though, and tbh, I wouldn't take her back if she came back if I was in your shoes.
Best of luck to you too, bro.
LoliGuardian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:29 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't build feeling for someone else that doesn't give half a damn as you do. I learned that, and I'll carry that on to you. I thought she cared, and I'm sure she did until she started talking to him. I respected her privacy and only told her to not let things get out of hand but they did, that's when I learned that even when she claims to care, she didn't, all she sought out was her blind happiness to someone who treats her like a trophy. But this isn't about me, I want to make sure you don't give into other people's emotions too much. But go out there and find someone that cares, it sucks to leave behind someone that you like. I had to be on and off with her until 2 years later she managed to say yes, after being best friends. Don't let your emotions seep into someone else because when they leave, they leave with them. It's best to leave her be and keep whatever feelings you have to yourself rather than devoting yourself to her only to get them crushed. That's my tip of advice, I might make relationships seem dark, but its about you at the end. Don't let someone who won't stay in your life scar you.
hrmfll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:22 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I was just gonna ask 'Is he going out with you now?'"
Dude, don't be a masochist. You already knew the answer, what did you think you would gain from this?
When she gave you a soft rejection that was a small pain she inflicted on you. You then kept inflicting more pain on yourself by obsessing over who she was interested in, and trying to force her to tell you things that would make you feel bad.
If interacting with someone makes you feel bad stop doing it. Having a crush and flirting, even when it's going nowhere, should make you feel better about yourself, not worse.
Flirting and dating is always going to be filled with maybes, and no amount of demanding is going to change that. The best way to prevent being hurt by indecisive people is to build a strong sense of self that has nothing to do with their opinion. Don't obsess over why they do or don't like you. Don't judge yourself against the person they choose to date. None of that has anything to do with you.
If someone tells you they might date you at some future point in time you are still single and don't owe them anything. If attempting to woo them is enjoyable to you, keep it up. If it makes you feel like shit, stop perusing them and put your energy into something you enjoy.
Learn to hear 'maybe' as "you seem like a nice and date worthy person but I'm not currently interested." Remember that why they are not interested is none of your business and you'll only hurt yourself trying to find out why.
cezariobirbiglio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't drag it out, either she's interested in hanging out or not. At the very least don't stop pursuing other women.
I_Saw_Boobs_Once ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:20 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most Definitley! No matter how much I want her, its not healthy to put my life on hold for some bullshit.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if she gives an enthusiastic "yes I'd love to" then never texts you back when you try to set something up? I just moved on because I've been too busy to really worry about it but that one always bugged me.
Filth33_3than ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really depends on the situation. That's really weird to be honest. Perhaps she lost her phone or something. Like if she's a friend/friend of a friend then you can set up a meeting. If she's tryna avoid you then she will find a way to not see you. If she's a random you met and never saw again then that's harder to stay connected with.
Like if she said "I'd love to" online (tinder/fb) then she probably really meant it, if she's a random and said "i'd love to" maybe she wasn't tryna turn u down and hurt your feelings if face to face. Depends on the situation.
Either way its awesome that you moved on. Hopefully she didn't lose her phone or something and really wanted to meet you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:50 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She was a coworker, we kinda talked/flirted a bit at work but we were never really close. I finally asked her out and got her number because I was promoted and transferred to another facility. She was pretty hot and interesting to talk to, we seemed to mesh pretty well, normally I would have given it another shot but I was in the middle of moving and starting a new job working 12 hour shifts so I figured it wasn't worth the hassle if she couldn't make the effort to text me back. I hope she didn't just break her phone or something, I'd feel pretty shitty if that was the case.
adfwefrsdf ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:19:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the record, she was most likely only trying to be polite. If she didn't respond to messages about major events in your life, its because she wasn't interested in supporting you through them. Casual responses to major events are the best you can expect from someone who has already decided you're not a priority. Who knows, maybe she had her own shit to deal with that she didn't feel like dragging you into.
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At the same time, she was leading me on. Saying she'd come over and hangout and whatnot, then never show up or just stop responding. Come to find out, she was seeing another guy and was trying to hide it while keeping me on the line.
It wasn't one of those polite "I'm not interested" type things. She would say she was headed over, never show up, then claim to have "fallen asleep" at like 6pm. She admitted to lying after I called her out.
Then she'd show up out of nowhere when something happened (dad's heart attack and dog dying) saying the same stuff, that she liked me and that she should come stay the night, then never follow through with plans. She finally started getting the one word response treatment from me, letting her know that my dad was okay and that I was fine after losing my dog. She got the hint finally.
Truebeansguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:42:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I kinda need help with that last part. I understand the concept of not responding to people that don't respond to me. But yet I can't help but message them it's like an urge
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have that problem, it took forever to get over. The last straw was really the particular girl in my situation. Now I find it pretty easy to see when they don't care.
What it took for me was just a lot of forcing myself not to do it. Keeping myself occupied so I didn't think about it at all.
IM_BARELY_LITERATE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:29 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh look, an airplane.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:29:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
self-pity is one of the most debilitating emotional states you can get yourself into; itโs a sure fire way to remain stuck in your current situation. donโt chase after people and donโt let yourself be in a place where your happiness is at the hands of another human being. itโs okay to let go of lovers that arenโt yours.
from my experience in life, when i really really want something, whether it be a career or relationship or money, and iโm coming from a place of lack believing that the having of whatever it is that i wanted would bring me happiness, the more difficult it's been to attain it. however, once i let go of needing that thing to be happy, then those things come much more easily.
Jigitynthejungle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:35:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But they're so awesome, and they'd be the one that got away, I am sure of it.
tm82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All your other punctuation seems good, now let go of the need to capitalize that first word of a sentence.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:53:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's really common, just so you're aware. Idk if it's girls in general, or guys do this too. But I've definitely had more than one experience with a girl where they're all over you one day and act like they could give a shit less the next. Some are just busy and only really give you attention when they think about you. Others are playing a game and very carefully thinking of every word they text/say to you.
The way you should react is the same for either case. DONT BE OFFENDED BY IT. Just talk to them how you normally would whether they're replying for the first time I'm a month or for the 40th time in an hour. Cuz the ones that aren't thinking about it will be caught off guard, like "wtf? I'm just talking to you when I can, why are you mad?" and the ones that are doing it intentionally will be turned off by your inability to keep calm.
Maybe I'm an idiot and don't know what I'm talking about because this is a conclusion I made after limited experience with these situations.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:25:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drop the fuck out of that broad dude. Games are 12 year olds. If she's going in and out of interest, you're a back up. Drop that shit and find someone where you'll be her #1. trust me.
KingsMadness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you... are you me..?
mrbrambles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love is a pretty complex thing but an important component is respect.
amigocesar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Just treat her the same way she treats you: Enjoy the flirtation when she decides to come around but know that it isn't going anywhere. She'll just be that one girl you flirt with every now and then when she shows up, you'll expect nothing more and nothing less from her. She might go away for good because some people get their kicks from leading others on, and once it shows that you're not under her spell any longer she'll gravitate to other guys she's leading on. Regardless, flirting is a confidence booster and worth practicing for when it counts with the right girl.
tobyrrr00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lose her. right now. i fell for a girl like that. Most miserable 4 years of my life.
thegoblingamer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:54:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right there with ya, buddy. Drop her like a sack of potatoes that suddenly started talking. Girls like that are bad news.
ThePnusMytier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing that's helped me is a bit of introspection and seeing that I am the man I want to be. Shit can go wrong, things can fail, but if you look in the mirror and are proud of what looks back you should hold on to it. If you see a difference (an internal one, not a shallow one) you can usually take steps to bring yourself to who you want to be.
Streetduck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the last one struck me too... I don't drink anymore and lost a LOT of friends... one minute they like you and the next they don't
Jigitynthejungle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yeah. I am there as well, my friend. We can get through this.
ThatSpyCrab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh the indecisive girl manoeuvre. I'm on the same page as you, and it's isn't fun.
RealJuanDoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel sorry for yourself. My friend in college when we were broke as fuck, failing education, failing with women, always kept an attitude of "bro, we're still the best." This wasn't public cockyness he would say it with just me and him and I knew it was to keep our heads high regardless. Present day were both doing great.
Tittytickler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet if you are more confident with you and show that you'd like her attention but don't really give a shit if she is ignoring you, she'll stop ignoring you. In my experience people who do shit like that can't handle not having that little bit of pseudo power
Bwalker247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got fucked over by a girl a couple weeks ago. Its time I become more gentle with myself. in the end the only constant is, indeed, me. Interesting
Cumsumyung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honeslty, whether you should break contact with this girl is probably dependent on how you handle it. I went through something similar a few times, but once I noticed it I simply changed my approach.
E.g., Maybe she wants to be flirty occasionally, I can do that, too. I'll just diversify my interests to make sure I have a couple people I'm talking to, and when she wants to flirt I'm all for it. Maybe it'll lead to something one day, but I'm cool just going with the flow and playing little games until then. If you aren't comfortable with this, then don't do it. If you can handle it and control your view and understanding of this back-and-forth, then it can be kinda fun. Either way, good luck :)
MoneyMorris80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually going through the same thing right now. Hang in there man, if she can't make up her mind about you and makes you feel like that, she's not right for you.
master_dong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She is who she is. If things happen, they happen. You're only accountable for you.
Frosma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally you should drop these girls. There's no guarantee she won't follow the same pattern during a relationship if you get there, and ruin it within days or weeks.
hungryheadcrabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And they always seem to show interest when you finally get over them! Then the cycle begins again. You feel down in the dumps and it mixes with everything else you're unhappy about in life into one big mudslide.
I'm so glad I found these comments. Been kicking myself for being affected by something so trivial. But I guess that's part of being human. Reading this gives me more motivation to work on my dreams and goals. Best of luck to everyone!
tonsofjellyfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really cannot stand people who do that. How pathetic do you have to be to play with others' emotions? When someone does this to me I ignore them once and for all.
InbredDucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd recommend "becoming the instigator of that "relationship", and ignore her. It will be hard, but once it's done, you'll feel better for yourself.
ejm4th116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. I have a girl in my life that has a boyfriend, but is constantly sending me signals that she likes me, but she won't text me for some reason. I feel you when it comes to that haha.
myredditacctfw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Life is short, find someone who wants to be with you because they genuinely like you for you (and not because of who they think you are or who they want you to be or how you appear to be).
WhaleFondler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably just REAALLY into her and experiencing the neuroticism that comes with that. It's a natural overreaction don't sweat it. If dating was easy then how would we weed out lesser genetics?
smthsmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:12 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's called a shit test, bro
Ancel3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:50:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad was a correctional officer of nearly ten years, his first day on the job he walked in like he owned the place and everybody treated him like he did.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:38:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Stevey854 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:20:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there an app to narrate Reddit threads to you? Queue up some amas or whatever and have the top comments and ops replies read to you
YukarinVal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's always the reddit podcast I suppose. I'm already subscribed to a few others (mainly phones podcast) so I didn't have time to fit in that.
Lancer506 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:06:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People have been talking a lot about posture, but learning to breathe is equality important. It adds depth and timbre to your voice as well.
Tocoapuffs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit! I've wanted a more natural sexy voice, all I need to do is breathe right? Damn! Thanks! I'll try this tonight :D
Lancer506 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:22:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put your shoulders back slightly to give yourself more breathing room, just subtly. Here's an exercise: push your stomach out when you breathe in, then push it in when you exhale, to give it some push. This should help you get used to using your diaphragm, don't overdo it when talking though. But sing a little note when you breathe out, you should feel a lot more air behind your note than usual. Cheers!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of Gorilla Mindset.
trendkill14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. Read half of it, and forgot all about it. Goin back to read other half.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:08:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The breath deep breath is really important. Especially, for anyone with anxiety. Keep your breathing in check when freaking out or anytime nervous. You'll notice you'll be breathing in a shallow fashion. Deepen them. Diaphragm should expand etc. We assume breathing is always done automatically and correctly but as with anything else, you can develop bad breathing habits. It really is a more significant thing that I didn't realize until having a few panic attacks around 20 years old. Very important.
spenway18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I came here to say "be aware of your posture". Well done sir, keep up the good work.
SynthPrax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You said it way better than I could have. All I was going to say is "Stand up straight."
i_think_ergo_I_am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Last sentence for me = "You're awesome, now start fucking acting like it" credit to OP, just don't remember where I read it, maybe I reddit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're great.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the comment that I needed to read. Thank you.
fullmetalyeezus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another one
Dontb3adick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Beautifully said. Especially that last bit. I have to remind myself of this all the time. People's opinions are fickle. Become the person you can respect and respect from others will follow.
gizakaga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always had it in my head to walk like a superhero wearing a cape. Keeping that kind of posture makes you look and feel a lot more confident
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice advice, but you need to lay off the salt.
snailzrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well then. I see we can't be friends.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need to give speeches on how to motivate people.
Tabrizi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
excellent...thanks for your words!
spirithunter53 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you breathe from your stomach? Or even know if you're breathing from your chest or stomach?
CatAstrophy11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have bags under by eyes so I'm basically fucked as a guy who always looks weary when I'm not. Unless I want to go full metro and wear makeup every day.
boombotser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried for weeks to fix my posture by just trying to remember to straighten my back, shit never worked, just hurt my back and eventually I got sick of it and just let it rest again in the shitty posture that it's in
Dingo989 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here... have an up vote...
LurkerOnTheInternet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breathe from your stomach? What does this mean? I only have two lungs which are side-by-side; I don't have any stomach lungs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Preach it!
schwingstar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And don't forget to wear sunscreen.
Acotts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dang straight motivation right outta the reddits and such
theappendixofchrist2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Forget that, build up to 100 burpees.
Pandipoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This inspired me
woke up at noon, still in bed, on Reddit
gg_hyuna_kim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do not put your shoulders back, this is bad for your posture by putting you body in a position that is not natural.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally just put on headphones, go outside, suck in your stomach flab, stand straight, shoulders back, start playing the soundtrack for Star Wars Episode V, and walk. Best thing ever.
Nekobusto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a deep breathing fuck
scarymovie1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ty got my six pack
Bryaxis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't do it in a way that looks forced, though. That'll just make you look insecure.
smthsmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:42 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is religious thinking: totally unprovable, and terrible advice.
Av_navy20160606 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:57 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I lik dis
LoliGuardian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:20 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spoke to my soul. I recently realized that at the end of the day we only have ourselves. Good words brother!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even better, is to listen to a podcast on current events while walking. NPR has some great ones, that way you can exercise and have something to offer to conversations later on
CajunTurkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with this.
workraken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you need help, just ask your asthmatic friends. When we're not dying, we get really fucking good at breathing because we relish the times when we can.
HonestAvocado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All these are so so true and really do wonders. I would also add just caring about your health is really effective. It bleeds into so many categories of your life.
Eierwirbraucheneier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till you make it
RealBrownPerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"a lot of people are shallow breathing fucks" :(
BetaRayAllDay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"respect yourself and be much more gentle with yourself. people are finicky, one minute they like you, the next minute they don't. the only constant is yourself, so be more attractive for you." please make a meme of yourself saying this and post it to r/GetMotivated
IrishLuke765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean by breath properly? I think I'm ok but I don't really understand how to breath from my stomach
Exterminator_Jeff ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:50:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should breathe using your diaphragm which feels like it is below your stomach. A lot of people seem to pick up a habit of breathing using their shoulders which results in shallow breathing. Slowing down your breathing by using your diaphragm is a great way to relax.
Scarf123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. I love this
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Head up, shoulders back, calm assertive energy. You are the pack leader.
throwmelikeitshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice :)
Keep doing you :D
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to tighten the core?
addicted_to_pepsi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just tense up a bit.
diggz00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really needed to read this today. Thank you Internet stranger!
piixiiie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, I will be more attractive for me... fuck I'm hot anyways, time I start accepting it.
Jlorsto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I may have just taken a breath using my stomach for the first time..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the guy who watches strength camp videos.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:27:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds tedious, to be honest.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Paksarra ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:17:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, you want to breathe using your diaphragm, like a singer. It's down in your stomach area.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deep Breathing. I hope this helps you out!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breathe through your balls.
Tocoapuffs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:59:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clench your butt if you're posing for a photo. I don't know what it does but my photographer friend told me this and it works wonders.
LotsOfMaps ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:04:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Adding to this - press those gluteus medius muscles in! This really helps keep your shoulders back and your sternum up, while giving your core the support it needs.
[deleted] ยท 2746 points ยท Posted at 14:25:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.
There's kind of a notion like "why don't my friends do anything cool", "why are they like this", "I wish my life was full of really awesome people". But the reality is that you can be the one to make it happen, to be who everyone would like to be with.
[deleted] ยท 644 points ยท Posted at 17:14:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow.... that's so true for me. I have a group of friends who I freakin love to death and would do anything for, but they just don't ever do anything fun or exciting. We'll occasionally go to my friends apartment and drink and talk about stuff and play video games and what not, but we barely do that. Other times we just chill and talk for a couple hours then go on our ways.Then I have these other friends who I'm not quite as close with, but am still pretty cool with, and they do everything. The other day they were telling me how awesome their summer was with the partying and slight dramas here and there with girls and they have another group of friends who they do everything together with. I hung out with them a few times in the summer, but that's only when they had parties. I really want to hang out with them and their other group of friends more, but I don't want to try to include myself because they are all so close and spent every waking moment of the summer together and I feel like I'd just be the outsider while they talk about all the fun they had together.
stickman_ninja ยท 720 points ยท Posted at 19:46:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh just gotta start hanging out until you become part of the stories. I moved into a flat this time last year with a random group of people who are also super social and proactive on activities like the group you want to get into. They have also known each other for around ten years.
They have so many stories about each other! So many stories I am not a part of but apart from giving them the joy of telling someone new about their favourite memories, I find laughing with people helps create a bond and I also get to know a bit of their history.
It's been a year and there's still (& always will be) references to times pre-me but you can't look at it as exclusive, it's actually inclusive - they want you to hear the story and react.
I'm a way better person for living with these guys, they make me more confident, they've found out I'm kind of funny in a dry, sarcastic way and their enthusiasm is catching, I'm a happier person in general.
I used to live on my own and am pretty quiet so upon moving in I promised myself to try participate & add to conversations. Saying yes to offhand invites, coordinating errands like going to the mall together, asking what they actually do at work each day, just to get involved in their lives. Now it's assumed I'll be going on trips and I want to hear any new stories/contribute to the re-telling of new ones.
I also became best friends with someone who is hugely entertaining that I don't live with (more like your situation) by going to see her often when she was sick and by matching her enthusiasm about nights out, events etc.
So, I guess, in summary, just get involved, even it feels forced at first. Find the person you get on with most in the group and create expectation of contact through text or visits.
Familiarity breeds friendship. Not one great night out. It's why people keep the same friend groups from high school even when they dont really get on any more or have anything in common.
You only make new friends by letting them know you want to hang out and then hanging out to find out if you like each other.
Sorry for the long post, I just really want you to make the leap like I did - it's literally the best thing that's happened to me! They've improved me, and my life, so much.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 20:11:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I mean, the similarity to where you got to and where I want to be is almost congruent. Thank you so much for this. I just don't want them to think I'm annoying by trying to include myself. Did you ever feel that way?
stickman_ninja ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:35:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know what you mean, I tend to over think social situations and feel like I might be getting annoying but I have a suspicion it's mostly in my head ;)
With these guys I never felt annoying, but they are pretty welcoming - if your group is like mine in lifestyle possibly they are in this too?
More like they would just genuinely forget to invite me places while we were transitioning to real friends, those "oh you should have been there!" sort of statements which could have felt awkward but think it was just them taking time to mentally add me to plans. I would just say to sign me up for next time - which gives something to plan for with them.
It's a bit harder not living with them but maybe try instigating an activity and invite them based on something you know they would be into then just push it enthusiastically. Even if you only get a couple of them at least you can feel like you are "taking a turn" at leading the group and not just tagging onto their activities.
One of my flatmates loves cooking so I talk to him about that or randomly text during the day and ask if he's made something before and for advice - sets up for conversation later.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To this I say just try to be a funny, cool dude and they will naturally want to include you. People like having fun people around. Also, try to invite them along to simple things that you do like grabbing lunch or going grocery shopping, eventually they'll start inviting you to things in return. The biggest key to all of this though is to be nonchalant about it, as in don't make it seem like a big event to get a bite to eat or whatever. Just play it cool.
DrSlizzard ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:52:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"you can't look at it as exclusive, it's actually inclusive"
That's the perfect way of putting it. I'm part of a close group like that, friends that I've had for years since grade school. It's often hard for those who join us to feel included but we honestly don't want or mean for it to be that way. If you take interest in us, we will return the favour.
Jebbediahh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:02:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're awesome and I admire your courage and persistence. I want to be like you.
Scratch that, I'm going to become you.
(In a non-face-wearing way)
Shurane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:06:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, this puts it in such great words.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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stickman_ninja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think a change of scene can really help change internal mindset. Mine was literally four blocks in city distance but living here gave me a much better view of confident, proactive people who do what makes them happy - dive, cook, run, shop, read, drink good gin - and took away the idea that these people are somehow just naturally better at life (they are just normal people, who knew? haha) and helped me to realise it's ok to do the same.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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stickman_ninja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I won't lie it has been amazing luck. I moved here from a very anti social flat - basically lived alone as both flatmates chose to spend most nights at their boyfriends' places - so I made a conscious choice to find a social flat and really push myself to join in with them and not hide.
So happy it worked out
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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stickman_ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's exactly that - a shared house. We all pay for separate rooms but share the kitchen and living areas. We just call them flats in New Zealand, probably due to our British origins :)
stickman_ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Semi related/semi interesting fact; if you say room mates in New Zealand people may assume you mean actually sharing a bedroom (different beds). I have a few Canadian and American friends and had to get used to that!
tragichero24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been wanting to do this but one thing that stops me from finding more enthusiastic friends is since I'm more on the "chill" (not necessarily quiet but I usually just throw in occasional comments into a group convo) side I always would think they would prefer to hangout with people more similar to them
How did you start to realize they actually enjoyed hanging out with you despite you initially being more reserved?
stickman_ninja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think we are too different!
There was no real moment I knew, I just kept participating and being in the room to keep up the side comments, (it's mostly my conversation input too). I doubt I'll ever be as close as they are but that's because of shared history and also everyone is starting to get SOs which is diverting their time in another direction.
I suppose if I had to pick a moment type it would be when we laugh at something together and are both part of the joke, that feels like friendship :)
I've been thinking as I've written the above and I figure I've actually just stopped asking myself if they're my friends. I just assume it to be true now. Maybe it's a mindset thing. Don't get me wrong, I think we would all struggle to keep contact if we didn't live together.
I don't think that answers you very well sorry. I'm finding it a tough question!
stickman_ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just re-read. I think when they started inviting me to things straightaway. And set up an expectation I would attend, e.g. "stickman_ninja will come, won't you?"
Maybe answers better?
tragichero24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for really trying to put thought into my question!
Your first response kinda did answer in that you don't really question it after hanging out for a while. A better question I should ask is how did you reach that point in the first place? So you randomly found these housemates and then they just invited you to hangouts since you lived together?
stickman_ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I found them advertising the room on a website and they all were my age, working professionals and wanted someone who would be part of the flat.
Everyone is independent in the flat though, so if I had stayed in my room try would've just left me to it. There's a couple here that pretty much have their own lives and we see them occasionally. So early on i could see i could be like them or force myself to take part.
For example, I didn't used to watch tv much but it's actually a great way to trigger conversation which can branch into anything. Just by having these random conversations, I became more comfortable with them and a part of the group.
Most planning for events and trips take place in the kitchen or living room from an offhand remark so basically I initially just increased my chances of an invite by being present! Can't be forgotten if I'm in the room ha. The couple who keep to themselves are still generally only invited as an afterthought/effort to be polite and they have been here 6 months longer than me.
tragichero24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok so you were putting yourself out there as soon as you moved in. I was imagining that at first you mostly kept to yourself outside of polite chit chat then you started to warm up to the idea of being around them
in-kyoto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is awesome, thank you for sharing this.
SouthieSaar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bravo! I was the complete opposite of you. Moved to different country 6 months back where I don't speak the local language, so it was always going to be a bit difficult for me. But I stuck to a "group", went out with them (I am not the most sociable person, more like a lost puppy in a crowd. Shy, in a cocoon. Can't initiate conversations cause I am not the small talk kinda person), and this has given me a new lease of life. It's almost always in the head. People don't know you, so you can be whatever you want to be. And I became closer to what I have always wanted to be. :)
stickman_ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I always wanted to do (know the language though) and see who I became! Sounds like you did great
higherentity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:20 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This opened my eyes a lot...I should do this
goober3 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:35:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck this hit way too close to home. Wanna start our own fun group of friends?
Trewper- ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:50:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao, just wait until all your friends start having kids. Then you can talk about not having a cool group of friends.
orangestegosaurus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:30:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Marriage in general is the start of the death of a friend group. Half of my old friend group got married and now we barely do anything together although I've been trying to prod us to do more things together, I don't know how long that will last.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
anderct ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:19:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
breath....now listen ....don't live your life through others ....be the change you wish to see in others.
Eder_Cheddar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a fine line with this. Because of social media sometimes we compare ourselves to what people are doing.
The basic shit to do is go to a bar and post pictures of you and a few people having drinks. I'm way past the "Oh my god, you're life is amazing because you have drinks almost every weekend."
Fuck that!
I'm jealous when I see my friends hiking and traveling. So me and a buddy decided that we would start hiking and taking mini-roadtrips.
With 4 people, everyone pitch in $20 for gas. The driver (who ideally would be driving to a 4-5 hour away destination) has breakfast and/or lunch paid for.
The memories that you walk away with on this day-long excursion are price-less.
I don't have a problem with drinks, but if 80% of what you share is drinking, then that just makes me feel you're not an interesting person and need alcohol to compensate for your lack of intellect.
mizzbates ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:03:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this with one of my best friends I used to party with. She's constantly snapchatting her nights out with new friends and her boyfriend, having a seemingly glamorous time, but when we do catch up she admits she got too drunk, fought with her boyfriend and can't even remember over what. She seems more miserable than happy most of the time, but refuses to give up the lifestyle.
Eder_Cheddar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:21:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see this all the time. Main reason I don't have snapchat and avoid Instagram posts where someone is at a party.... that stupid:
"I'm gonna hold my phone over my head. Look who's here. Scream and yell everyone. Look at where I am. Look at all the people. Look at this table. We got bottle service. Kissy face"
Or the:
"I'm getting ready. Look how pretty I am. I'm playing Drake in the background. Playing with my hair"
People love the attention. They want you to see the best aspects of their life.
Chances are she won't post that fight she had or her stumbling around in heels. Or her getting kicked out cause she was too drunk. Her throwing up or her visiting Jack in the Box at 3AM.
I don't envy party-goers. Maybe when I was 21 but I've always hated going out to clubs. I'm a dieing breed.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't drink too much at parties due to past negative experiences, and along the way I've found myself a little bit, so at the parties I went to with my other friends that I mentioned above, I usually get along really well with everyone, and really there's nowhere id rather be in that moment than kicking back and having a nice conversation with someone who is just as sober as I am. So it's not the fact that I need alcohol to feel interesting and have fun, it's the fact that I really cherish the limited interactions I hold myself back from outside all of my friends, and I feel like my other friends who take me to parties allow me to get that experience more so than my main group of friends I have right now.
Tittytickler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you gotta just do it dude. My group of friends is like the one you're talking about and pretty much everyone we're around wants to be a part of it at some point, so we let them!!! You don't get a group of awesome people by excluding people. The more the merrier is our creed. The longer you wait the less memories you have to share. You can even start your own! Make friends with sociable, open minded/accepting people and it is pretty easy to get things rolling
Tutorem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just moved from one part of Denmark to another, i knew nobody near where i moved to. My old friends and i are all really close and have known each other for ages, but a lot of them are not that fun at parties, at least not all the time. At my new school i got into a pretty grouped up class, they rarely do stuff on the weekends and when they do it's in smaller groups. Luckily i met some people in my maths and physics classes (Yea, i know, not the most party type people) and they are great fun hanging out with and almost always up for hitting up the city on the weekends. I feel like i got pretty lucky that they were so open and welcoming, they'd invite me to their stuff very soon after i'd initially met them, but what really got me a lot closer with them was that i started hosting pre-parties/drinking nights, and i'd just invite the people i knew there (5 or so people) and tell them that they could bring friends if they wanted. Now it's about 6 months after i met them and the group of closer friends i have at my new school has grown a ton, and i have a crew of people who are always down to party or just chill and play some videogames.
rocketbat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an introvert, I really enjoy sitting around and playing video games or watching movies with friends. The trick is to have a balance of people in your life to meet your needs. You won't get everything you're looking for from one person, or one group. What might be fun and exciting for you may very well be draining to them and vice-versa. Granted it's easier said than done, it's all about balance and compromise.
Moonlit_Haze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, go talk to them! Sometimes it's good for a group to have a breath of fresh air! You might not know it, but you could be the one that holds everything together.
ghostdate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like from the outside these sort of people seem like they do so much awesome stuff constantly, but if you're actually there a lot they don't do as much as you think. Still more than your other friends, but when you get the after-stories it sounds like it's so consistently awesome that they never just sit around and talk like your friends.
Sort of like the Facebook effect where you just get the highlights and none of the bland stuff that makes up the majority of the time. Not that they aren't doing more than your main friend group, but it just seems exaggerated until you're a part of it.
thepancakebreakfast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eerily similar situation with me, man.
RealJuanDoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We are 2 of the same. Let's be friends!
golden_boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Invite them to something
37th-Chamber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one else said this in the other replies that I noticed.
Invite their group to things. Take the initiative in joining their friend group. You don't have to intrude on their stuff though, bring them into your stuff.
If they have a party or invite you to something cool have them all over for dinner or a barbecue or something as a thank you. Gets you in and makes them feel good at the same time.
Or even better invite the cool friends to a potluck at your house and make sure your lame friends are there as well. Ideally they'll socialize and you'll blend your friend groups but worst case your lame friends will realize they need to step their game up. And potlucks are fun.
samuswashere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not about what they can do for you, it's about what you can do for them. If you want to be invited to do fun stuff, then start by inviting them to do cool stuff. There are a lot of people out there that will say things like "we should totally hang out" every time we run into each other, then I never hear from them unless I initiate. Conversely, being friends with people who will contact out of the blue to invite you to something fun is the best. It's taken me years to build up a solid group of great friends and while there's always room for someone new, I'm going to put my energy towards the people who are also investing in the friendship.
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was me in high school, until I started to BE the guy who came up with plans and would suggest stuff a couple weekends out and then plan it and execute.
So start suggesting fun trips. Weekend camping trips, shooting range trips, driving range trips, movie night, drunken pie night, poker night, etc...
rubberroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Anyone can be your friend. You just have to hang around them long enough."
Will McKenzie, from Inbetweeners.
So goddamn true. Had an acquaintance with whom I shared a great number of friends. Never cared much for him, mostly because of a minor, perceived slight suffered some years earlier.
At some point, he began inviting me over to hang out. After declining a couple of times, he started inviting himself over to mine. We became good buddies and roomed together a few years later.
Stee19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, this is me right now, word for word. Love my old homies to death but they aren't as outgoing, which sucks. Met a new group (little bro and his friends) this past year and have been having a blast.
c_dawg7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a Yes man. Never turn down an invitation to go out unless there's a good reason for it. Invite those friends out for a drink (or just a couple of them, chances are the rest will be there too).
Av_navy20160606 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:53 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only way to not be the outsider is to stay in contact with them and include yourself (at first). They'll come around and realize you're a cool person and get you in on the fun times.
InsectWarfare92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'll only be the new guy for a little while. Don't overthink it. Besides, that summer passed, and a new summer is coming up.
AS_A_VEGAN ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go and be part of the fun that they will talk about next time.
mightybeans ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:42:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're me minus the parties
NotADemon_AMA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:23:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been staring at this spoon for hours, OP. This shit aint working.
slrarp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no spoon.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:48:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you bring up ideas of fun things to do, even as small as bowling or hiking or anything like that and they all refuse and just sit in the basement playing halo.
Cause yano.. Asking for a friend
Kenny__Loggins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find new friends. Not that you need to ditch the old ones.
Rusork ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:00:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did this for a while. I only amused boring people and it bored the fuck out of me. I eventually got tired, don't care anymore.
MeowTheMixer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you boring? Maybe find some new hobbies that you find more interesting and others will too.
DWillows ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, i acknowledge that problem, but the problem lies in what i could do to change that. What would be something that both my friends and I would like, AND is cheap, AND is relatively near us? usually the answer is not much.
ginballs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly
Cloudy_mood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why my stuffed animals are my best friends.
They watch all of my plays. They listen to my stories.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's scary and I might fail. I can't fail at being alone and it's comfortable and familiar to me.
Treshnell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me this is along the same thought process of people that whine about being bored.
Boring people get bored. Interesting people are interesting because they put themselves into interesting experiences.
XavierScorpionIkari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is this?? Mystery Men??
Zakraidarksorrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends are miserable drunk cunts. I know this. They also agree.
Need new/happier ones.
Worthyness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be hosting a ton of shit at my place if I had one. I just can't afford to move out of my parents house :(
Fucking bay area housing prices.
rovert93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be the change you wish to see in the world
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also - BE the person you wish your friends were.
If you think your friends are boring, BE the person who comes up with plans and sets up trips and is constantly throwing out ideas.
Be the solution, not the problem.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:17 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the unfortunate truth is, you get the friends that you deserve. also true for presidential candidates.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Kenny__Loggins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I don't blame them on the last one. That's a good way to get hypothermia
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Kenny__Loggins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you need a blanket?
imatworknonsfw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kudos
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I BLAME THIS TOWN, THIS JOB, THESE FREINDS, BUT TRUTH IS IT'S MYSELF
HateCopyPastComments ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bs
frosttenchi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are the most successful/interesting person in the room, it's time to get new friends to encourage growth.
jebpeter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this quote in the autobiography of Danny Green (Australian boxer) and it always stuck with me! Such a good quote and a brilliant book!
Natwree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is where social anxiety becomes a real burden.
NPC_AIRSHAFT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey so, yeah RIP inbox, but is there a way to solve the opposite problem? i'm pretty sure all my friends are better than me in every way
IveRedditAllNight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, this just hit home.
It's so true.
spacecadet00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always felt this way, though I make it easier on my redneck friends by simplifying it to, "If you can't find the party, be the party!"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do things yourself. learn to be self-reliant. you might meet some new friends along the way.
btreeinfinity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least give credit to the author you're referencing.
load231 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most comments in here are not related to the question at all.
RefrainsFromPartakin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard trying to be the hero of your story all the time though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to be that weird character in sitcoms everyone likes. Turns out that in real life that guy is annoying and now I don't know if I can stop.
smthsmth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:54 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but the reality is this is an overly optimistic generalization meant to make you feel better about yourself and get internet points.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:57 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Conversely, when I entered college I decided I wanted to be as successful as possible so I tried to locate and make friends with as many successful freshman as I could. It ended up working out well and they've all helped me a lot. I'm not saying this works for everyone but I like to surround myself with successful people to motivate myself.
HenryKushinger ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That seems like pseudo-profound bullshit (that's the technical term). I don't think there's really any actual advice in there, just some motivational sounding nonsense.
PsylentKnight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I think he's basically saying "How can you expect other people to be awesome if you're not awesome?"
Seems reasonable to me.
BurntRussian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kinda the opposite though. I think everyone else is way cooler than me.
I think I get too attached, though.
fogobum ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:38:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TiL. Thank you, stranger.
Clipsterman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As I realized somewhat early in high school, and it's true when dealing with 90% of my friends: If I don't get shit done, the shit won't get done.
PajamaHive ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only constant in ones life is their own perception. One has the power to see everything how they wish to. Once one realize that a lot of doors open up for them.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"To be someone everyone wants to be with". Got it. Step one- become a woman that's really hot and then everyone will want to be with me.
SpongHits ยท 3492 points ยท Posted at 15:18:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually listen to what people are saying.
EmperorCorbyn ยท 2833 points ยท Posted at 19:41:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I would like a sandwich.
HoldMyWater ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 21:52:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I disagree. String theory is clearly the better framework for explaining the fundamental makeup of matter.
xxkoloblicinxx ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:53:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Lately I've noticed my stool smells differently than it normally does. Should I be worried?
Gohack ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:50:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to make pseudo-intellectual posts on facebook and have considered vaping. Why does my mom cry herself to sleep every night?
BestCaseSurvival ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:26:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love waterslides too!
firedrake242 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:40:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the answer is sqrt(7x+3), but I'm not sure.
wanking_to_got ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:43:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Steel isn't strong, Boy! Flesh is stronger!
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:48:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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brickmack ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:53:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Psh, everyone knows Rainbow Dash is cooler than Spock. He can't even fly
LizardGestapo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:12:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I've told you 13 times not to throw the pancakes on the roof!
coolkid1717 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:13:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When is the next episode of adventure time supposed to come out?
AadeeMoien ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, didn't someone mention sandwiches?
HorizontalBrick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what's this another one thing?
DefinitelynotTrump ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
Emojenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if deciding I will absolutely never do meth means I've gone dark side... at least there's weed
heiferly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe.
BlackBulletIV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DO YOU SUCK DICK?
coolkid1717 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, you're so smart.
HoldMyWater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps, but I don't see how my comment allows you to come to that conclusion.
CallMePhteven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, OP's mom.
MeltyHoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No you see, what is wrong with certain supermarket baskets is that the handles aren't fit to the way hands fall, making it hard to hold.
laugelaugelauge ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:25:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What?
AlekRivard ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:43:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP WANTS A SANDWICH
Idoontkno ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:13:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
+1 listening skill
civicgsr19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did he say?
_Tickle_my_Pickle_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did he say?
Dontb3adick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OG funds a slammed witch? ... I don't understand
Idoontkno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:52 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Op went and flipped his winch?
cmchunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:41:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THE COLONEL!
TenaciousB06 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I SAY YOU HE DEAD!
civicgsr19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get the damn man a sammich then!
pikaluva13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But...that's not OP...
Suibian_ni ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:01:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Enough with the Star Wars spoilers!
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MOD, do something terrible!
helivedalone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:16:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I give you a hamburger.
Bandin03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that qualifies as a sandwich.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:27:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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mike413 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:58:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arrivance is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.civicgsr19 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:33:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think its apt-get sammich
shinazueli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
sudo apt-get install wifewife --make-sandwich --target=my-plate &>/dev/null &echo "thanks, now where's my beer"amixer -D pulse sset Wife muteIf unable to sudo due to lack of root wife permission, reboot wife and insert live disk to override. Sometimes (approximately 25% of the time) the front disk or usb entry is bugged/corrupted; in this case use rear entry. Enjoy sandwich.
Also, wiping memory will be helpful to avoid marital prosecution (this is because the
wifepackage is known to be buggy and frequently exhibits memory corruption and logic errors), this package is available as:sudo apt-get install Cosby. The--forceparameter has been found to be useful with this package.Note that although the standard output of
wifehas been redirected, it's still quite chatty and verbose, so I normally pair it with a system-wide mute command to prevent it from outputting. This may or may not be necessary, depending on your own hardware, some have found that they can tune out the noise without this step.Final note, for those without a package manager that can install
wife, this is usually due to missing dependencies. Typical missing libraries include those related tojob,car,hygiene,money, and/or the incompatible librarylibnmomsbasement. Install missing dependencies and compile from source, that may take a few years, depending on your hardware.Note that some of this code may not be legal in your jurisdiction, if not, just deny you did it with:
wget http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrZDMlnnjVQmirrorAll code in this post is licensed with the following license.
wolfenx3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sh make_sandwich.sh ?
pinatafilledwithbees ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You wanna fight my man fridge?
nonhiphipster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not true! Not ALL trolls have green hair!
PantherOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're both right.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ffs you killed me!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No we don't sell switches here.
wpiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear your request. Now, go fuck yourself.
Civilized_Hooligan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally hear you. Fuck off
BWallyC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how do you know she is a witch?
Rawrpaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First post to make me laugh out loud all week, thanks! Though the woman next to me on the bus is now giving me funny looks...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:37 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/talesfromretail
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
username czechs out
I_AM_YOUR_DADDY_AMA ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:44:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make mine a coke
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 20:57:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HeyFlo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:09:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can always tell the latter group. Nodding through your conversation, and then they just machine gun through every problem they have and you have to nod along as if it's the most important thing in your life.
CJ_Guns ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:17:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I treat conversations like a bunch of musicians playing together. Everyone wants a solo. Keep a mark and listen to what's being said, and if someone's interjection gets muddled, wait for a quieter moment and instead of talking yourself say "Hey X, what were you saying?"
See X's face brighten up.
Robotkio ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:25:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's an important one, too!
If you, say, cut someone off because you're super excited about saying something; I've seen it do wonders to acknowledge what you cut off and guide the conversation back to that person. Doing so helps to show that you were just really excited about the thing you just thought of rather than showing that you were just ignoring what the other person had to say.
jellyberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:06 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if a loud talker starts talking over someone telling a story who is softly spoken, I like to make eye contact with the quiet guy and really engage with his story so he doesn't get embarrassed and stop talking.
FingerpistolPete ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:45:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tl;dr
call_911_to_diddle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:03:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen to people.
__rosebud__ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:28:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tl;dr
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:47:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tl;dr
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
to
PeperAndSoltIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tb;dl.
Too boring; didn't listen
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, what?
splocket2233 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:41:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, mmhhmm. Go on.
Cloudy_mood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could say anything right now.
splocket2233 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, mmhmm. Go on.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could say anything right now.
NotADemon_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hm? Oh, uh.. yeah, I agree. But I mean, how? Like how'd it all happen like that?
el_blacksheep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've grown to become so disinterested in what people are saying that I'm having trouble focusing on things I actually care about. If I don't take an active part in the conversation I will find my mind wandering elsewhere.
gamefreak249 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:58:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But some people are sooooooooooo fucking annoying and I couldn't care less!
TheManDude39 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:12:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you expect people to listen to you then there's no reason you shouldn't listen to them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I'm amazing and everyone else is boring and lame. Do I need a /s
scaredofAdebisi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't judge you if you didn't put it
IAMA_Cucumber_AMA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:21:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he means talking less and listening more. Nobody wants to talk to someone that keeps interrupting them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, I can be a fantastic listener but if they're clearly not worth my time I won't hesitate to take complete control of the conversation.
punksneverdie ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
misspelling 'so' is soooo annoying
detecting_nuttiness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, what did you say?
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've crossed the line..
Bond4141 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I can point out all their contradictions? Perfect!
Birds_iView ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't just wait until it is your turn to talk - listen
Mandalor1an ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yet another example of an valuable principle of "How to Win Friends and Influence People".
Hornedking28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, if someone is listening to you, let the, know you appreciate it. Laughing at their jokes doesn't hurt either.
sisyphus99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No shit. It's crazy how many people I encounter that are clearly just waiting for me to STFU so they can then commence to flapping their dick hole.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If you do this, give people a fair chance and also have a nice tone, I noticed you can avoid a lot of internet arguments. It's very easy to not fully listen to people yet think you are listening.
jaytrade21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ on a cracker..I was just thinking about this as I had to deal with a wonderful guest for the weekend. I still live with my ex (we own a house together so we are just roommates at this point) and her younger brother just got kicked out of where he was living. He was planning to stay with us so he could get himself straitened out (get a job, get his shit together, ect). I tried to give him good advice, but literally would just change the subject to whatever was on his fucking mind for the second. I then told him this, he doesn't listen to what anyone is saying, he just uses the time when people talk to think about what to say next. One of the things I told him was that he can't fight with my ex and yell at her. If he wants to argue, do it civilized. Off course he gets into it with my ex and she promptly kicks his ass out of the house.
He went from potentiality living there long term to being there 2 nights.
ace_urban ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally.
Robotkio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one's pretty important and something I still work on.
I've been guilty of "just waiting for my turn to speak" and not really responding to the other persons points or topic. It's a good way to kill conversation. After I became more aware of what I was doing it took some effort to set aside the really interesting thing I wanted to say and wait until the current topic was ending to bring it up rather than bringing it up mid conversation.
Likewise I've been in conversations where the other person wasn't really responding to things I said and it's a rather big turn off. It can feel a little like the other person is saying, "I don't care about you, I just want an audience."
Cloudy_mood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is waaaay bigger than people would ever expect. It's one of the largest keys to Acting. Many actors are excited to say their lines, they forget why they need to say them, because they're supposed to be connected to the other person in front of them.
I work with a girl who is a good friend but she really likes to talk, and many times instead of listening she'll keep talking and you can't get a word out. I just find it funny now because she doesn't do it on purpose.
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So much this.
You have no idea how angry i get when people don't brush their teeth.
classy_stegasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I absolutely LOVE it when people take the time to listen to what I say. Honestly, I don't get why people wouldn't want to spread good vibes with something as simple as listening
Ricobasc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate people, what do I do...?
ColdestSteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry what?
I_Reddit_and_Wept ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This!... So This!!
ShaneDAWS0N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate when people don't listen like you tell a story and all they want to say to you is "Shane you interrupted, I was telling you about my mom just passing away and you're trying to tell me about this post you saw on reddit. You're rude." Like who just interrupts me like that? Yeah I get that you don't like some of the stuff on reddit but you don't have to be a bitch about it.
LonerStonerLove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this. Listening (and retaining what you can) is really, really appealing to people. And I'm not just talking about first dates and your grandma. Your boss, your friends, strangers even. You will make a much bigger impression as a listener than someone who is pretending to listen just long enough to butt in and explain how the current discussion affects you.
allholy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try so hard to do this, but I struggle a lot. I've tried many different meds and nothing is working. Does anyone have a LPT to help?
InterestingPersonX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never noticed how little I actually do this until I recently tried to do it more. Couldn't agree more.
biscaya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad this is the first reply. I would add, act like you are interested in what other people are saying and ask a lot of questions. Smile more, and be thankful for what you have. That kind of stuff goes way further than (flashy anything you can buy).
treetop82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an introvert and passive person who is a good listener, I end up with all the people venting to me.
CodeJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you don't actually have to agree or do what they say, but at least listen correctly.
SocialFoxPaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But they are always so stupid...
whywilson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WAT?
judgej2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, yeah, but, me!
nusyahus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, me too
skemmis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Maintain your posture when sitting.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you
Justincredible207 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What?
akjoltoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh... it actually makes you more desirable to the other party when they have to work to get your interest.
alderaancruiser17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one is actually kinda hard for me because of my terrible ADHD. It's not because I'm disinterested in what you're saying; I'll just zone out without even realizing it, even when someone is talking directly to me.
It's pretty crazy and once I realize I've zoned out I kick myself over it. Doesn't happen all the time though, only during long conversations. Most of the time I'll apologize, tell them that I zoned out, and ask them to repeat what they said.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And summarize what they've said so they know you've listened. Bitches love that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to try too hard to listen to what people are saying. I used to wish that I didn't give a shit enough not to.
RiD_JuaN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuck i hate it when people just say 'true'
equationsofmotion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. This.
And be interested and engaged. Or if you can't do that at least pretend. Make them feel listened to, and worth listening to.
Being an enthusiastic listener is incredibly endearing.
P5ychoRaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Great! I'd love some waffles right about now!"
von_Hytecket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's mind blowing. My mother has the talent to listen deeply to people, you wouldn't believe the life experiences people tell her after like 5 minutes of speaking.
dirtmouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and engage them about themselves and their interests
GrandMasterReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Title says "attractive," not "appealing."
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is attractive, it let's them know that you're interested in what they're saying. That makes them feel comfortable, important it allows you to become more personal with them with out having to do much. Typically when I'm on a date I ask a few questions to get them talking about themselves. I'll reinforce what they've said previously to let them know I'm listening. If they're talking and I'm not completely dominating the conversation this gets them thinking about themselves and what they're going to say and kind of puts them on the spot and takes all of the pressure off of you. Now that they're on the spot, those words they're saying feel more important and it feels great to know someone's listening to everything you just said. During that whole time you basically get a free pass; with little said about yourself, they haven't judged you on something you've said and you're not on the defensive in any way. They feel good about themselves for getting to freely say what they want and feel even better that you cherished every word they said. Now you've made them feel important. In my experience most people just want to say what's on their mind and truly just want someone to listen.
LiveLongAndPhosphor ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And don't fucking interrupt! This is especially a problem for women who are talking (or trying to talk...) to men.
thereisonlyoneme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Kanye.
LoppyQ ยท 5728 points ยท Posted at 15:16:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If you don't like something at least see the appeal in it. People hate it when you blatantly hate something without giving it a chance.
ManInTheHat ยท 4003 points ยท Posted at 17:25:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But do you see the appeal in blindly hating things or do you just blindly hate it?
LoppyQ ยท 2621 points ยท Posted at 17:29:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
We_Are_The_Romans ยท 1350 points ยท Posted at 19:51:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only the Sith deal in absolutes
italia06823834 ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 20:51:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to imagine that line is there to showcase the hypocrisy of the Jedi Order in it's (then current) state, and not just shitty writing.
POGtastic ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:08:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this explanation falls flat, as Obi-Wan is intended to be the good parts of the Jedi. Yoda is blinded by mysticism and Palpatine's influence, Mace Windu is dogmatic, and everyone else is a bunch of worthless followers.
In contrast, Obi-Wan is out there fighting, uncovering the conspiracy, and trying against all opposing forces to do the right thing. If everyone else is a bunch of hypocrites, Obi-Wan is the only non-hypocrite among them.
summonerbotone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:59:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I feel like Obi is the spiritual ancestor of balance in the Force that Luke momentarily achieved. The Jedi were heavily misguided and perverted the Force as much as the Sith did, just in a different and more subtle way. Obi Wan is the most progressive Jedi that was still a Jedi and I think his teachings passed down to Anakin and eventually Luke. It was just that Luke was stronger than Anakin and managed to resist the dark side enough to not succumb to it but rather accept all aspects of the Force.
It's a shame the prequels are overshadowed by excessive CGI and poorly written dialogue. The story overall is pretty good.
thisismy20 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:32:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone actually explained it to me in a plausible manner. Something about the context of the situation and the involvement of what else was said before and after that. I cant remember but maybe someone will come along soon.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:23:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not at all plausible.
ptrst ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:35:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a big Star Wars fan, and I drive my husband (who is) crazy with that. I'm not sure if the Jedi come across as as completely ridiculous and wrong to people who are paying closer attention to the movies/actually give a fuck, but as far as I'm concerned I'm not convinced they're the good guys.
nightfire36 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:53:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of the video games, especially KOTOR are involved with this. I mean, the Jedi order basically kidnaps infants that are force sensitive to brainwash them into a religious order where the only people that have power over them is the Senate, who actually can only say "yeah, we would prefer you not to do x or y," and the Jedi can say "we are going to anyway." The Jedi don't see this as bad or anything either. I think the more one looks into it, the more one realizes that "light and dark side" does not mean "good and evil side." Sure, the Sith can be pretty evil, but the Jedi are much more subtle with their manipulation and flaws.
Falling_Pies ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:22:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think this is fair to the Jedi. They've always been an extra government organization and for the most part benevolent. They only step in when requested by the Senate and most of their lofty position comes from savings the republic's ass time and time again. If they wanted to control or manipulate the Senate they could just walk in and do it. Or "suggest" something to enough senators to get it passed. The Master Jedi understand the power they wield and still don't step in and try to manipulate anyone when they see the Chancellor holding his emergency powers. Once they know he's a Sith they pursue him but they are using force not THE Force.
It'd be way more accurate to compare the Jedi to Communism and the sith to capitalism
Inherently the Jedi order is supposed to be good. And if they followed their ideals and didn't add in more crap as they went/misunderstand rules (from control emotions to no emotions; from seeking willing force users to taking Innocents for "the good of the verse" etc) then they would be good. But what keeps happening is a slow decline into decadence and vigilantism. Comm equivalent: for the proletariat turns into "we know best so we will just keep it"
The sith on the other hand are supposed to be inherently evil. They are uncontrolled and volatile. Sometimes completely ruthlessly practical and other times harmlessly indifferent or irrelevant. But they keep on getting pretty good results (galactic peace, multiple super weapons that are able to enforce the peace, they don't kidnap children quote as frequently) although their methods are usually despicable (mass murder).
Capital equivalent: spread of freedom through propping up dictatorships and getting into some really really questionable situations. (I'm sure someone is gonna pick on this but I didn't feel like coming up with a better example).
Drihzer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:32:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really think it is fair. When the grey wanted to break off and do their own thing, the jedi took them prisoner and we're going to execute them. All because they believed the jedi were wrong.
The jedi don't need to take over the senate. They only need to keep the status quo. Which they do by keeping the Senate afloat for centuries, and in return the Senate allows the jedi to collect force sensatives and train them to think with the jedi mindhive. Im sure the senate also supplies them with everything they need in return for the galaxies best mercenary group.
Quite frankly, at least you know the sith are dangerous and to keep away. The jedi are treated like heroes for killing off anyone who opposes their religion. The grey are about as close as you can get to good guys when it comes to trained force users.
Falling_Pies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Grey is such a blanket term though. You have all sorts of odds and ends in there. Mystics, witches, the Voss, all sorts of weird side plots. Again I don't think the Jedi are the end all be all good but the grey might have secrets of the order they could start telling people. Or they might be zealots or anything. Or the Jedi might have a delusional leader who has lost his way, order the entire order has lost its way. And sometimes you need that so whatever lost Jedi can become the next sith/be corrupted by the sith. Is it kind of annoying that the narrative is so circular? I can see why people would feel that way but that's literally the nature of the force. At the end of the day I'd rather have Jedi fight each other than mass murder the Senate like a Sith would if they had a massive temple on the government planet.
And this allows the corruption to become rampant. But the status quo wasn't really bad. I mean it started out pretty great. Any conflicts were small and localized and the galaxy didn't even need a large standing army. Of course things soured over time like they typically do with 100's of years and quadrillions of dollars floating around. But I don't think you can directly blame the Jedi for the overall decay of galactic politics. What would you have them do? Kill or imprison "evil" senators? Use force control to direct senators in the "right" direction? I would be way rather have superheroes (BC that's pretty much what jedi are) play a passive role in politics than an active one. They aren't all knowing and they can control their enemies. That's a recipe for disaster.
Idk man I would fear anyone who can just control my mind and cut through the walls of my house. Anyone with half a brain would stay far far away from Jedi/sith if they could. I mean most of the galaxy doesn't even interact with the Jedi on even an occasional basis. The orders are really either only involved in high level politics or isolated in their backwater temples and stuff. The average person in the galaxy either doesn't believe in the force or thinks of the Jedi and sith as a fairytale. I mean the Catholic church was endorsed by multiple governments but you didn't want to just hang around for the Spanish Inquisition. Anyone with makes up less than a percentage point of the galaxy but literally wins space wars at will is someone I'm going to spend a lot of time avoiding.
eitauisunity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:07:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like the difference between gang members and police. You don't want either involved in your life, and they will both for sure fuck your shit up.
summonerbotone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:54:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think one of the overarching themes in the movies is how outdated and corrupt the Jedi Order became. Anakin destroying the Jedi Order was actually an important part of restoring balance to the Force, because the Jedi weren't the balance. They were a perversion of order and control over it. I like that no one was really a good guy in Star Wars. Everyone had their faults, and it was Anakin and eventually Luke's acceptance and embracing of this ideal that led to the destruction of both extremes in the Jedi and the Sith.
Although Anakin may have gone about it in a slightly... maladaptive way.
thirdegree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:32:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no good guy. The Sith are evil, and the Jedi are misguided at best.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From my point of view the Jedi are evil.
Falling_Pies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She's untrained but she's stronger than she knows.
teamhoun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From StackExchange:
When Palpatine had told Yoda that his arrogance had blinded him, this was true, and was the reason why Yoda afterward had been struck by a concentrated blast of Force Lightning.
This shows how the Jedi and Sith in some ways had become very similar, without the Jedi Masters taking notice.
It is paralleled, when Obi-wan, telling Anakin "only a Sith deals in absolutes" reveals himself as a hypocrite, likely unknowingly.
Again, another subtle theme packed into the story.
emdeema ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant-ish, but also just a good read
strokesfan91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well then you are lost!
chumjumper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must have a strong imagination
TheTurnipKnight ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the problem - I can't take any life advice from Star Wars prequels seriously, because I know it's written by George Lucas...
LoppyQ ยท 270 points ยท Posted at 19:53:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. I mean...
Absolutable ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:21:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yup
cavescape ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:49:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i hate this
ChuckStone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless Obi Wan is secretly a Sith.
JiveTurkey420 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:03:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We don't know where Obi Two's allegiance is yet
eegras ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With the RAF. Did you not see the TIL?
jurassicparkraptor21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's certainly a sith. Absolutely
KingStraton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that was how Jar-Jar blew his cover
CromulentEmbiggener ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:07:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From my point of view the Jedi are evil
Th3Kingslay3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was the cringiest part of that movie by lightyears.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:58:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
airdude21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
12 or 14?
Th3Kingslay3r ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:16:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was so close to saying that instead honestly lol
GrollTheLicker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the sentiment is great but its a bit to.... Blatant.
The same idea but not shouted in a very basic way could have made a great line
DrBlueDot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But he was seen... *strokes beard in a concerned manner* ...killing younglings
Peterotica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All generalizations are bad.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:56:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Only the Sith". Yoda is a Sith confirmed
karlw1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:01:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In fairness to anakin saying the jedi are evil, he's not wrong. Obi wan says "only a sith deals in absolutes." ONLY?? Only=absolute=sith
Yoda says "do or do not, there is no try."=absolutes=sith
Anakin was right :/ and we all laughed at him for his stupid line
GolldenFalcon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:05:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Technically Anakin did bring balance to the force, if you take the fact that there were many, many more Jedi than Sith.
FrancisJv ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:33:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never understood that. What the hell bringing balance meant to them?... Becoming more powerful and more institutionalized in The Republic?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:44:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Jedi Order thought bringing balance meant destroying the Sith, when in reality bringing balance meant destroying the Jedi.
drhumble ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:10:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All but two. Two Jedi vs. two Sith, sounds balanced to me.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:49:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sith OP, plz nerf
Freakfarm0 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:38:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it meant eradicating the dark side of the force. Anakin fulfilled the prophecy by killing the last of the sith (himself and Palpatine).
Doesn't really fit the typical definition of "balance," but it's what I like to believe.
aSaaadPanda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'd say when he decided to kill the emperor he became a Jedi* again. Thus killing 1 Jedi and 1 sith. Leaving only Luke and Darth jj, of course.
FrancisJv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like this one!
He also left force sensitive offspring!... He actually fulfilled the prophecy. Without Luke, the Jedi would have been extinct after Yoda's death!
thanatonaut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
they never explained it. it's supposed to be so mysterious that even the jedi kept misreading it. they never said where it came from, either, though that old guy in Clone Wars season 3, ep 15-17 knew about it too, somehow. A lot of people said it meant "murdering all the jedi in Episode 3," but that's people trying to justify palpatine and anakin, which is really weird. If you follow that line of thinking, then it's really about Vader killing the Emperor in the end of Return of the Jedi.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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BakingBatman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The balance in the force was never meant to be equal amount of Jedi and Sith. It meant that there were no dark side users at all since they bring unbalance.
But I don't know if that have been ret conned in the animated series or everybody just went full retard and forgot ep6.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah thats the whole point of the council I guess, to maintain a balance in the force, shame that they completely suck dick at it in the prequels.
thanatonaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
when did they establish that? the whole thing comes from the "prophecy" and we still don't really know what it's about. They do mention it as a major plot point in one of the story arcs in the animated series, though
BakingBatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the OT it was that Vader brought balance by killing the last two Sith. Only a Jedi remained. Balance achieved.
In the PT (prequel trilogy) the prophecy wasn't really touched on, just mentioned. Anakin killing all those Jedi wasn't meant to do anything with the balance. It was his fall.
For me it all made sense since the beginning, but I'm extremely confused why people treat the force as a scale.
Switche ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:21:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Deals" is the key word. It's regarding ultimatums, not simply that only Sith can say anything in absolute terms.
TheeOrionPax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thaaank you! That was my thought too.
Eltotsira ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
Whittaa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You were the chosen one, it was said you'd destroy the barbarians, not join them!
blaze323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which in itself is an absolute.
ianme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flying is for droids!
Shalmancer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I hate star trek nerds.
midnightketoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only the damn good for nothing Sith are capable of negatively judging others
Idoontkno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't "only" an absolute?
darkbreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is also an absolute.
Emmo2gee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will do what I must.
Jman0123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah regular people shouldn't be dealing in absolutes but I could see the appeal in it
neto96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmmm...maybe.
arclathe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a trap
axionj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I absolutely hate corner mouth saliva
hiswill98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IN MY PERSPECTIVE THE JEDI ARE EVIL
0kZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man I've watched this yesterday, talk about coincidences.
HughManatee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you're a Sith?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ScruffyTheNerfherder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is an absolute.
Chiefhammerprime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I will groom what I must.
VoteNixon2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I hate sand."
themexics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Sith?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but...that's an absolute too. How did I just notice this?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But Obi-Wan, that's an absolute!
Shut up Anakin!
trashmaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From my perspective, the Jedi are evil.
Targaryen-ish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This Sith hits shit.
Drokthewise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know who else deals in absolutes? A god damn synth...
xXSpyderKingXx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is THAT an absolute though?
Logan_LaMort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do, or do not. There is no try.
booyah719 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW OP IS EVIL
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I get OP's advice, and it's something I religiously abide by, but in this case I really just have to say:
I fucking hate this joke.
LoppyQ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:03:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it gets old after a while and overused. Also you can understand why someone would hate something too.
zyke_dilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then why post it, you annoying karma whore?
Angry_Walnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe
willdcraze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you repeat the question?
theDamnKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For here or to go?
quichagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But do you see the appeal in blindly hating things or do you just blindly hate it?
LoppyQ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:11:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmmhmm.
quichagan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:13:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But do you see the appeal in blindly hating things or do you just blindly hate it?
LoppyQ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:18:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed.
Mr_fun_bags ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But can you see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
LoppyQ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3!
Ducks_and_Gingers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, 6?
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 Sixes.
Xavanux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the correct answer is yes.
quichagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey thats my job!
chillwombat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:50:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But do you see the apple or do you just blindly ate it?
LoppyQ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:56:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who am i to waste a perfectly good mold covered apple. heeuurrg.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets find out! 1... 2... 3... CRUNCH 3.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tootsie pops are 3-hit passives? Do they also dash, knock you up, and provide cooldown resets?
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends. You could probably enchant a tootsie pop for special skills.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need a black soul gem for that.
Xavanux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a 3 auto attack spell so once you auto attack 3 times you do true damage thus getting to the center of the tootsie pop.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tahm Kench ate Vayne, this is what happened.
RAA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To actually answer your question, there are a sunset of people that find value in appearing low effort. Blindly hating on something is easy because it takes no risk to say you dislike something, while saying you actively like something is putting your tastes on display for others to assess. For some, that can be scary.
thunnus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm calling it. 2016 Comment of the Year.
dumbredditer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:56:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you see some appeal in [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
lbeefus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The appeal is that, at first glance, it makes you look like someone who doesn't blindly like things. It's only at the second glance that it becomes obvious you're still blind.
sysroot107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can see the appeal in blindly hating things. I mean, it makes you feel superior for thinking something is beneath you. I get that. I don't blindly hate blatantly hating things, but I still do hate it, even though I see the appeal in it.
morallycorruptgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LMFAO!!!
bufftart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate this comment
Devodevo2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm too tired for this shit!
FramingNoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha my partner does this. He has a tendency to rant extensively about things he has just encountered without giving them a chance - but he really doesn't have issues with these things so much as he just loves to rant for ranting's sake :P.
Sedu ยท 962 points ยท Posted at 18:13:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely agreed. "That's not my thing" is a phrase that will come across much better than "I hate that." So you're going out with someone who likes Twilight? Well guess what. We all have guilty pleasures. Maybe that's just theirs.
abqkat ยท 1585 points ยท Posted at 20:50:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And, especially in casual settings, just let people have 'their thing.' Lady you're talking with at a party likes astrology? This is not the time to prove what a genius you are and how 'astrology is bogus!' Just let her rave about it. Ask a question or two. Let her have it, it clearly serves a purpose for her. You can mock her in your head if you must- such a Capricorn approach!- but the height of social grace is to make others feel welcome and included. Don't be a dick to people that differ.
raspberrywafer ยท 410 points ยท Posted at 21:54:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially since many people are aware that some of their hobbies are a little silly. My best friend always reads her horoscope - she knows it's BS - but it entertains her.
If you get high-and-mighty on the topic upfront, you don't really have time to learn if the person is awesome. You likely just turned them off completely.
angry_old_geezer ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:58:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read an account of a well known socialite (can't remember name) who was having dinner with a younger woman who was not accustomed to eating in fancy restaurants. When finger bowls were placed on the table, the younger women drank hers and ate the flower floating in it. The socialite didn't embarrass the younger woman by pointing out her error. Instead, she drank her own finger bowl and ate her flower, too. That's class.
Hella_Potato ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:00:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That being said, if the other person is going overboard, at some point it is totally ok to be like "That's cool. This isn't really my thing, though, so I feel like I can't talk about it well. What other interests do you have?" Some people are completely unaware that their hobbies do not appeal to everyone, and then it gets awkward at times.
jpsi314 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:35:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather will talk at length and without break to any random person he meets about high school wrestling in eastern Pennsylvania and actually seems to think people all know who these kids are.
stickyfingers10 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:39:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wha wha..what? That's fun.
Lumpy_Space_Princess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:04:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I'm from eastern Pennsylvania! Does he remember Evan Sola? We had like one state championship banner in our gym and it was his.
jpsi314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No idea and I'm not going to willingly bring up wrestling with him to ask.
scaredofAdebisi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:03:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Oh, yeah cool bro. That's totally cool that you're into that, and I respect that you're into that, but it's just not my thing. You know? Like we're all allowed to have our things and interests, which is totally okay with me. I respect it. I'm just not into that, bro. You know? Yeah. Totally dude. I respect that. Totally fine by me.
Hella_Potato ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:47:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If only every bronversation turned out with such civility.
raspberrywafer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:40:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. It's about the language, not the action itself.
wierdspelling ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:16:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! Don't Yuck their Yum!
JonasPolskyAMA ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:05:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God, I wish this was in the Reddit Terms of Service.
SuperFLEB ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the Internet. Totally different game.
Subnuba ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:17:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I shot myself in the foot more than I care to admit by shitting on others' attempts at small talk. "Oh, you like horoscopes? Let me tell you what a crock I think they are" etc.
When the friends they've been waiting for show up, they're more likely to be introduce and include the person they've had a conversation with instead of the dickhead who trashed their interests.
raspberrywafer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think we've all done that. Especially when I was younger and a little insecure...I thought it made me seem cooler.
It didn't.
Greattauro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to just get high though, at which point any topic will fascinate you.
emeraldarcana ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:35:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone called this "Well Actually" as the phrase that's not getting you laid.
ContraBols98 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:41:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THIS IS WHY I DONT HAVE ANY FRIENDS?
Im always getting asked if i drink municipal water and I tell them "Well, actually."
over-my-head ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:50:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
But seriously, bottled water costs 1000 times more than what you pay in taxes for the equivalent amount of tap water, tap water generally undergoes much stricter and more frequent health and safety regulation and testing due to government oversight in comparison to water bottled by private companies, and in some cases, expensive bottled water is literally drawn from the same public sources as tap water!
On top of that there are all the environmental issues involved, not only just in terms of the resources used to create the bottles and the pollution created by the garbage they become, but there's the whole problem of natural water supplies being used up by private companies, or drought-ridden regions having their populations' water supplies being sold off by the state to private corporations for pennies...
So unless you're in some Third World locale or post-apocalyptic shithole like Juarez, Mexico or Flint, Michigan, that lacks the basic features of civilization like a clean water supply, it is pretty much completely insane and idiotic to buy bottled water.
So how could you not feel compelled to tell everyone this if the subject comes up??!!! How can you resist the urge to speak out?
(Yes, I am clearly very fun at parties)...
raspberrywafer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like he really hit upon something there.
"Whoever pulls a "well, actually" almost always shifts the conversation to himself. And now we are no longer following along with your friend's joke, we get to learn how much more you know..."
People who engage in this behavior (which we all do sometimes) tend to see it as an enlightening behavior. But in a lot of ways it's really an attention-seeking thing.
daftfader ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:26:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a friend like this. We each discussed completely different topics , but could appreciate the other friends story and ask the correct questions
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:50:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ontopofyourmom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:47:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can do this, somewhat. I just really like to draw people out and get them talking about things that they love but are scared to bore strangers with.
SuperSocrates ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:11:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this too and it's great. The only problem is sometimes a few minutes in I realize that I'm actually not interested in whatever they're going on about (or at least my interest has been exhausted) but we're in too deep now so I have to let them get it all out.
Wizardsonlyfool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your name, it fits too well!
ontopofyourmom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I will just direct the conversation toward something I'm interested in.
GiantDuarf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you have quite a jewel of a friend.
PrivilegeCheckmate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL:TL:DR curiosity is attractive.
artmonkey1382 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:20:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally right on this.
I have found is that if I am not really into something I might say, "You know, I've never been able to get on board with (ex.) rap music. What are some good albums I could listen to that might win me over?" or "That's something I've never really gotten into, what do you like most about it?"
People love talking about themselves and this is a great way to be the friendliest person at the party and maybe learn something new along the way.
Jerilo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:51:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is something everyone should learn.
jollygoodwotwot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:18:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People who refuse to do this are usually unaware of how often other people are humouring them.
imaluckyducky2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:53:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I now have an overwhelming need to pay attention to my internal monologue when I interact with people, just to see how much of an ass I am.
radioactivecat ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:52:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it's homeopathy, because seriously, fuck that noise.
Yahspetsnaz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:22:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pisces master race
LegendaryPunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well said! It also shows that you can respect people for their differences, which in turn will make them more willing to talk to you about...anything, since they know they won't have to worry about you beating them down just because you both don't share the same interest / opinion.
nolotusnotes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:44:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've hit upon the core reason for manners. They are not for you, they are for the other person.
If someone hands you a water glass at the table and asks for more wine, you give them more wine. In the water glass. With a smile.
abqkat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:05:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Sometimes, manners is your Sunday best with 4 forks and elegant conversation. Other times, its eating spaghetti off of a paper plate while your uncle rambles. Norms and customs and manners change by context and adapting is perhaps more important than the actual thing
CatAstrophy11 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except this practice will train you to no longer be genuine. It will bite you in the ass later as you become a chronic liar to make everyone else happy. People in this thread are too focused on the moment and just completely ignore the long term.
greytshirtredshorts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It feels so unnatural and a little disrespectful to fake a smile and feign interest in a such a bogus thing though, doesn't it?
DeathsIntent96 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:41:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't be faking an interest in the subject, you should be genuinely interested in their opinions on it.
greytshirtredshorts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess as much as you can. That gets harder if they are misinformed, spreading something false or harmful, etc.
electricrimson ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Astrology though? Fucking seriously? I mean, it's possible to be interested in why people believe dumb shit but I'll be damned if I do anything more than smile and dismiss someone raving about astrology. I won't be a dick but I'll either leave the conversation or politely express opposing views.
DeathsIntent96 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:26:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can have an interest in something like astrology without actually believing in the supernatural aspects of it.
electricrimson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:37 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but I think it's pretty obvious that I meant the situation in which they thoroughly subscribe to its ideas. In that situation, they are being silly. And I'm probably being a dick. Whatever, conflict isn't always bad.
darkshade_py ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah rather be straight and say you don't think astrology is valid , and if they don't want to talk about it to you leave it at that.You don't have to rant about how it is not science or whatever , but to fake a smile wtf
greytshirtredshorts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I would agree. And by faking a smile I meant feigning interest, an "oh that's cool!" when you know it isn't true
philsherry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Capricorn here. /nods in agreement but dies inside
Section80Babies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think "don't be a dick" is just good advice in general
littlemissgayle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'Don't be a dick to people that differ'
Words to live by!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what of I'm not having a 4 star day?!? It said I was going to having a 4 star day!
OTHER_ACCOUNT_STUFFS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got called out on always telling people they're wrong on new years. I can see how it's annoying so I'm trying to stop, but at the same time why do people have to be so wrong??? "Your speed triples for every second you fall!" Ummm.... no it doesn't.
vestais ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If only most people on reddit thought this way...
felinelawspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Capricorn here, confirming silent judgment.
AnEpiphanyTooLate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention you can actually change peoples mind this way! If you just dismiss it without a second thought, they will only feel more justified in their opinion.
37th-Chamber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Last time I went off about astrology was while I was doing minor work around the house. Long story short my rant about how bogus astrology is was cut short by burying a large knife very deep into my foot.
I give zero credence to astrology but the one time I argued with someone about it I ended up at the hospital so I leave that shit alone now.
Lvxurie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i wish more people viewed the world as you and i do
tripplowry ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:33:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so fucking hard for me. Like half the girls at my hippy college believe to their core that this shit is true, and I swear I could have gotten some numbers if I didn't berated them about how fucking stupid astrology is. I think of everything on here this is the best example for me. I really like to debate shit but sometimes I get ahead of myself such as berating a drunk girl for saying I am outgoing because i'm a gemini, if I had shut the fuck up maybe I would have even gotten laid that night. On the other hand, really? Cuz i'm a gemini? ...damn crystal hippies..
ZePlatyguy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:39:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a Capricorn and I find that I mock people inside my head but I never let it come out like that because it's really rude. It works for me though and people don't think I'm rude so.
OzzyDaGrouch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to mock people soo much!! Now everyone asks why I'm so quiet when we go out with people lol. I secretly think youre all dumb :p
ZePlatyguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate having that feeling of superiority all the time.
Xavanux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now we know... now we know.
TitoTheMidget ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:49:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But then how will she know I Reddit? pls advise
Jeff_Qwerty_ATTNY ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:35:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a lot of redditors need to realize that this goes for sports too. My home NFL team just won its division for the first time in a half a decade, but if my roommate is in earshot when I try to talk about this with friends, the conversation will quickly become inundated by some iteration of the classic "Lolol I love sportsball! Hit the puck for a field goal!!!"
It is frustrating.
NSA_Chatbot ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:05:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not that into sports. I don't understand it.
I do know enough that I can go to a Superb Owl party and cheer, make some comments about how that was bullshit, and "huh, that's a weird play. I wonder what they're working on." (or last time "I'm going to the TOUCHDOWN STORE do you need anything?" which became a running gag for a couple of months) I've woken up early (like WTF o'clock) to go to a sports bar with my then-gf to watch the gold medal hockey games.
I've said it before: If you're so smart, why can't you figure out how to be social if people "dumber than you" have it sorted?
MuzikPhreak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if he slipped that in quietly or that was a typo. <_<
Jeff_Qwerty_ATTNY ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:38:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Superbowl
Only the finest of owls make the cut.
Sedu ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:52:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same mindset as people who brag about how much they don't like/don't do something. "LOL, I never read! If I picked up a book, I probably wouldn't remember what end to start at!" or the people who will pull out their encyclopedic knowledge of all Harry Potter lore to explain in excruciating detail why they dislike its world/lore.
Sveet_Pickle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:00:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my coworker the other day if he liked the new Star Wars, don't worry no major spoilers, he said not really. Upon inquiring he said, "who has a medieval European sword in a world based on feudal Japanese society." that was literally his only major complaint about the whole movie.
Sedu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:15:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I... what? That answer would just stun me for a moment, allowing him to get the upper hand and finish me off. Your friend is a master.
Sveet_Pickle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:20:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, he's an old school sci-fi/fantasy guy, he's probably read most of the old extended universe of both Star Wars and Star Trek.
Xavanux ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:06:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ask him about the theory of Jar Jar Binks as a sith lord lmao. It seems true.
cdillio ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:24:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ask him how TSM is doing then laugh in his face for being a dumbass who can't see how it's the same.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Jeff_Qwerty_ATTNY ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:45:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vikings
SirBuscus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is funny to me because for decades it's been the other way around. Try to go into a mixed social group and get people to listen to you talk about Magic: The Gathering or Dungeons and Dragons. I guarantee it's easier to talk about football.
whyspir ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:33:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am with you. My partner -loves- the Twilight movies. I tolerate them for his sake. Because my love for my partner is orders of magnitude greater than my distaste for twilight.. I watched the 2nd through the last movies with him. Because he's my goddam husband and sometimes sacrifices are required... Now if I could just convince him that nerd stuff like MtG is actually fun...
AnthX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:13:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found some of those card games really abstract. But when I got to Settlers of Catan with a board and little pictures and models it was fine. Of course it was still symbolism.
Maybe that's his issue - it's hard to relate to it because they're just cards.
RootsRocksnRuts ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:47:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine is Avril Lavigne's Let Go album.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:03:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll do you one better and suggest, "What do you like about Twilight?" make it sincere, not condescending, and you'll appear invested--because hopefully you are--in hearing about them and their values.
Envy121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only shift to hate if people get in my face about it.
breqwas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Twilight Sparkle is a great pony, and a very relatable one! I feel no guilt in liking her. Why anyone should?
ChickenChic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a moderately laissez faire attitude about most things except Twilight. If it's a guilty pleasure, I'm okay with that...if you think it's the best literature ever, you will be excommunicated from my fallout shelter.
DJMixwell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I hate that" isn't even that bad, It's cool that you don't like it, it's fine that you hate it... Don't tell me that it's bad tho...
If I say I listen to Deadmau5, you can say "I hate him". You can't say "he's fucking terrible".
a) because now you're making me feel bad for enjoying something and
b) because you're objectively fucking wrong, his sales and awards and praise speak for themselves. but it's fine if it's not your thing.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I'll happily accept if someone just "doesn't like" something. Rather than if they give me one reason they don't like which I can counter with a few second of thinking logically. If someone just doesn't tea, that's fine. But if they say tea is too herb flavoured then I should be able to give them a different flavour right? Not always.
Stay_Curious85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm. I need to do this more often. I often say "I hate that" when really I mean " I find this slightly annoying and/or inconvenient."
whenever_whimsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alternate phrases that say the same thing:
"I'm not really a fan of that."
"I'm more into this other thing," to lead the conversation elsewhere
"I tried that but couldn't get into it."
"That's interesting, I'm not very familiar with that."
bogidyboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DAE real vampires don't sparkle?!
DAE le Anne Rice vampires are le superior vampires.
Lar_bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:26:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Twilight sucks.
Arieswolf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:00:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes, "That's not my thing," sounds kind of smarmy to me.
PrincessSparkle87 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:59:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very true! Everyone has something. The world would be very boring if everyone was into the same movies / books / music. I'm 28, got myself a Justin Bieber ticket. One, I love pop music. Two, I used to dance and I can't wait to see the choreography for the show. And three, I really want to see him live and see how he holds up performing on stage. Everyone at work made fun of me. Whatever, I'm not asking anyone else to go or like him! People can hate whoever / whatever they want but why is it so hard to accept the fact others may like it?
BevansDesign ยท 966 points ยท Posted at 18:57:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, one of the things I've learned is that only idiots (of which I was one) say that something sucks. That's the wrong way to look at things. If you like something, say that you like it, not that it's good. If you don't like something, say that you don't like it, not that it sucks.
I don't like rap music, but I no longer say that it sucks. It just doesn't appeal to me, and that's ok. And if I don't like that other people like rap music, then I can try to expose them to other music, but I have no control over what other people like. That's life.
Canigetahellyea ยท 215 points ยท Posted at 20:34:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the mature response. Showing hatred for something immediately puts you in an awkward position on a date, if that person likes what you hate.
bicycle_mice ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 20:53:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once went on a date with a new guy. He was cute, we were getting along. I went on a 5 minutes diatribe about how golf is boring, it uses up so many resources and is horrible for the environment, it isn't really a sport, etc etc etc.
Then the guy tells me that he went to college on a golf scholarship.
I still don't like golf, so we clearly weren't a good fit.
Canigetahellyea ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:25:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's too bad, almost seems comedic though. Having said that and also having worked at a golf course in the past....Golf IS a total waste of resources, the amount of water used is staggering.
IDefyAxioms ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:40:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"waste". If people are getting something out of it, it's not a waste.
Canigetahellyea ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:51:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True. I think you misunderstood though, I meant it as a waste in regards to resources, specifically water management. Not necessarily arguing the entertainment aspect. It's like saying I get lots of fun dumping buckets and barrels of water off my apartment. I'd have fun doing it but it is still considered wasteful. The water can be used for a lot more than just leisure.
IDefyAxioms ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:00:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get it. I'm a golfer, so I get defensive about my turf. Fake grass just can't compete.
Tamespotting ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happened with me and this German girl who was anti semetic, except I didn't say anything until after I had sex with her I whispered in her ear, "how does it feel to get fucked by a dirty jew right in your nazi cunt"... Great sex too.
Shit_Apple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't date you either. Golf is the best. You get to do a leisurely outdoors and enjoy the fresh air, it's good exercise if you're walking, there's still a ton of nature put into courses with grass, wooded areas, lakes, etc, and it's just a fun activity that you can enjoy literally from 5 or 6 up until your body completely breaks down.
If you were railing on racing and all the fossil fuels it burns up, we'd be cool.
plasticTron ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:15:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just described every single outdoor activity.
SparserLogic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:44:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And they (probably) don't require landscaping.
forever_erratic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:02:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd bet golf uses more resources than racing.
redghotiblueghoti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the water used for golf courses is both more renewable and pollutes less than the resources used for NASCAR/most racing events.
Shit_Apple ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:05:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, but golf I think easily has more benefits.
sanemaniac ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:36:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, finely tuned high performance automobiles zooming down a track at 200 mph, or white people whispering. Decisions, decisions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd watch NASCAR over the PGA Tour any day of the week.
enarc13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That depends on what you mean by benefits.
meatduck12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's damn expensive though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Shit_Apple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you can't do much better than a partner that would let you have all 3-alone time at the course, guy time, and a couples outing.
LordEdapurg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nongolfers
bicycle_mice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hahaha I've found my people!
geeky_username ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:39:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except people who don't use turn signals, we're all on board for hating them right?
chaachaachemist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:37:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck turn signals. I hate them.
ren868 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it's raisins. Everyone should hate raisins.
red_eleven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only sith deal in absolutes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not immediately. 'Sucks' is a pretty casual word and if a date says they like, for example, The Dark Knight Rises, I would feel completely comfortable saying, "I thought it sucked but I can see the merit in it. What did you like about it?"
Boom. No hard feelings, and I have still expressed interest in what they have to say. If there are hard feelings, oh well I guess. It wouldn't have worked out anyway.
plasticTron ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saying "I thought it sucked" is a lot different than just saying it sucks.
Boinkerz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:05:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No need to neuter your language at that point, the same message is getting across. People aren't going to nitpick the differences between your phrasing of "I think it sucks" and "it sucks" in a casual conversation.
stackhit2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes they will.
Boinkerz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for your explanation
Mrs_MiaWallace ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:51:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So true. I am always turned off by people who put other people down because they like something that they claim is stupid or sucks or whatever. It's not hurting you that someone likes a TV show, movie, song etc. so let them enjoy it without making them feel bad about it.
Pendylan ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:43:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I don't like having cancer.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:39:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the spirit
Sw3Et ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't overly fond of that Hitler fellow either.
hybridthm ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:51:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, this vacuum cleaner really sucks!
Whoa, those leeches suck.
Well, rap music really isn't my thing, but I've only really listened to eminem and Jay Z, are there better artists out there?
I think I Got it!
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:01:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that question about rap is serious, I'd recommend starting with notorious B.I.G. or Tupac. Unless you're looking for something more modern, in which case I'd recommend kendrick lamar
hybridthm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't serious but thanks.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:32:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol you're welcome
EllisDee_4Doyin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I can't imagine you listen to Eminem and jay-z and don't think they're very good. Jay-Z love depends on the person, but Em is great at what he does!
t_hab ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:25:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with this advice for the negative things, but for the positive things, it's okay to get excited and carried away. Saying "this ice cream is really good" or "my brother's band is awesome" is fine, so long as you don't get offended when people disagree. Enthusiasm can be contagious, so strong positivity isn't as off-putting as strong negativity.
dunckle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish more people approached different opinions the way you do. And I hope you can extend that approach to all aspects of your life!
Xavanux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I learned to just not say anything about a topic unless it's one I like. If I don't like your interests, that's ok because that is what you like. I just say, "I'm not into that but I'll listen to what you want to say."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How dare you have an opinion unlike mine
GimmeDatDaddyButter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you say when pressed on why you don't like something? Saying you don't like something is fine, until they're like "why?"
BevansDesign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would explain why. To use rap as the example again (and generalizing heavily), I'd say that it doesn't really speak to me, that I prefer the sound of guitars and real drums, that rap seems to have more in common with poetry than song and that I've never really understood poetry, etc.
I always try to be prepared to have my opinion challenged if I express it.
Hellspark08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, especially with music. If I don't like a band or a song or a style, I make sure I can explain my opinion before sharing it. That's conversation, versus just taking a rude dump on something someone else likes.
thirdegree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:36:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's your opinion on vacuum cleaners?
BevansDesign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They clean!
bambo758 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree with you...
But.
I do feel like when someone says that something sucks, or that something is good, it is implied that it is their opinion. I'd always assume that, until they explicitly state that something is objectively bad, at which point I'd point out that they're an idiot for stating an opinion as if it was a fact.
raspberrywafer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:57:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true, but if you say "Oh, I really enjoyed Gravity" and the other person says "Ugh, Gravity sucks" - well, it's kind of a conversation killer. It's certainly not going to make them instantly more charming.
If you're trying to become more attractive/likable, there are better ways to disagree with someone.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:25:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll take what OP said a little further: If 'sucks' or 'good' is all you can come up with you haven't given it enough real thought and you don't really get to determine if it is 'good' or if it 'sucks'. They are not real or genuine answers(and being genuine is attractive).
'Sucks' and 'good' are filler words that really don't mean very much and don't take very much thought to assign to something. They should be your initial reactions to something and a basis on which to form an opinion, but they should not be the end of the opinion. Take a little more time to think about it; form a real opinion on it. Turn it from 'this sucks' to a well thought out answer that informs the people around you who you really are and what your real tastes are.
emptied_cache_oops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
maybe there is already a well-formed opinion but the thing to which is being referred isn't important enough to merit anything but an "it sucks".
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is the title of the thread? It isn't how to efficiently say things, or how to use the least amount of words possible, or what thoughts or feeling are important; it is Simple things that make you more attractive. The opinion: 'This sucks' isn't attractive. Having a fully formed well articulated response to things that you don't like is.
emptied_cache_oops ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:40:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that opinion sucks.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Touche
emptied_cache_oops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i suppose elaborating to strangers might be more attractive but i don't know how often people have the opportunity to do that anyway. i would only use "it sucks" with familiar company who already know me so the whole thing seems a bit hair-splitty.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Such is attractiveness.
newly_registered_guy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:42:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some things really are just legitimately shitty though. I don't need to form a well thought out reasoning as to why a $2 half-finished game on steam is shitty. Quickly labeling it shitty is the best thing I could do because to give it any more thought simply wastes my time and the calories I've used up creating that thought.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is more than enough thought, and says a lot more than 'sucks'.
I can now infer quite a bit about you, it makes you seem more genuine, and you pretty much said it yourself(by not thinking it was a well formed opinion) it wasn't that hard to do.
Secondly we're not talking about what takes the least amount of effort. We are talking about what makes you more attractive. If the person is not worth the 'extra calories and time' to think a little harder why are you trying to attract them?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:57:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the difference is that you won't be making people who do like the thing (rap, a video game, giraffes) feel bad or attacked.
Framing it as a difference of opinion leaves a lot more wriggle room and can actually result in some fun conversations.
Telling someone that their favourite band "sucks" is just going to make them feel bad and like you less.
farfle10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are some things I say I don't like, and some things I say are bad. Using which depends on my expertise with what I'm talking about. If I understand what it's trying to do, and I'm knowledgeable of the context in which it exists, then I don't mind using the b word.
Tittytickler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another perfect example of "it's not what you say, but how you say it." I wholeheartedly agree. Personally I like to ask people about what they are interested in because as usual, nothing is as simple as it seems and it is amazing to see how in depth certain interests can go
imnotquitedeadyet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God so many people from my church are like this with music (they're al on the worship team or whatever.) I say I like a band and they're like "Oh that band sucks." Rather than "Ah I don't like them." It's so infuriating. How dare people have a different taste in music than them!
pirarchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a matter of phrasing. A preference is a preference.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I started taking this approach years ago. However I'm still very guilty of that mentality when it comes to popular music. 99% of the music I hear on the radio is garbage to me; I just can't stand it. I've not heard a single Drake song that I can say I even remotely enjoy except for "Forever," and that most likely has to do with the fact that he's hardly in it. The sound of his voice just irritates me and the style of his flow always makes it sound like someone who's way too high to be rapping is somehow stringing together "lyrics." I totally understand that that's my relatively ignorant point of view because I've never listened to his body of work outside of radio hits and the occasional random song of his. But I just fucking hate him. I do think he sucks, personally.
As I said, I've utilized this mentality for years now because it's a mature way to approach things - to be able to separate the subjective from the objective. But popular music on the radio...god damn it, I just can't. I really honestly can't stand the sound of most of it. Occasionally some songs are on that don't bother me, but most of it hits my ears and it just annoys me. Ellie Goulding is one of example of a popular music artist that I actually kind of enjoy. I've heard nothing but rave reviews about Bieber's new album from many different people...enough so to actually make curious enough to check it out eventually.
sushi_hamburger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like kiddie porn but I guess...no, it's just wrong.
satchoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rap music is great!!!!!!!!!!FUCK U
rmphys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With music or art, that is fair (although I would argue there is intrinsically more artistic value in some things than in others, but lets leave that be for now). But some things are objectively worse than others. For example, I would not entertain the idea that someone prefers to drink vodka during a marathon rather than water. That's just stupid and I can give them reasons why. This is obviously and intentionally ridiculous example to proof a point. Also, rap is great, sorry.
Section80Babies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you have a problem with other people liking it though? I mean I do think it's good to expose to people to new forms of music but why do it to drive someone away from something they like?
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Corollary: only boring people constantly complain about being bored.
nahfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man I should've read your reply before posting the same thing but with shittier words
emptied_cache_oops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't people intelligent enough to know that "it sucks" is the same as "it just doesn't appeal to me."?
giveitago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle got run over by a freight train.
Dude, that sucks.
No no no, you gotta give it a try.
Devoid_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As my dad told me when he dropped me off for college " every closed door is an opportunity to learn how to use a fucking door knob"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Kardashians suck. I stand by that statement.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
What about things that actually suck. Poorly made films or books with sloppy phrasing and grammatical errors?
EDIT: This comment, for example...
BevansDesign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You would say that you don't like them because they're poorly made with sloppy phrasing and grammatical errors.
drrtydan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pretty sure you would say that Brendan Smith sucks if you watch him try to play defense.
wordsworths_bitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rape and murder really suck.
BevansDesign ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll allow it.
WE_ARE_THE_MODS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually the worst part about your entire comment.
KaeptenIglo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:45:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
War and cancer don't suck?
I_am_Ali_Buba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not for American businessmen.
CaptainSmak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:47:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You haven't listened to enough hip hop. ;)
farfle10 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:05:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't even try.
hauntedfox ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 21:05:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hipster response to a mature comment. Nice.
Jerlko ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
> I can try to expose them to other music
> commenter mentions exposing him to other music
"What a hipster."
Plsdontreadthis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between showing someone a new type of music and trying to get someone to like something they've already said they don't like.
hauntedfox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. If you're trying to shove something down someone's throat, you're an asshole.
CaptainSmak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:21:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if I say I don't like hot dogs and a hot dog connessueir says to me "you haven't tried enough hot dogs" I'd consider what he's saying.
jonybagodonuts ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree completely, but country music still fucking sucks.
Plsdontreadthis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:43:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you listened to Johnny Cash? Sure, modern pop-country sucks, but there is some great country out there.
jonybagodonuts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have, and I adore his work. I was referring to modern pop country like you said.
Plsdontreadthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In that case, we agree.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:40:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But most can agree that nickleback sucks.
aredditgroupthinker ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:01:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only modern rap sucks.
ritchie70 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:33:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Six months ago I would have said, "I don't like rap music." I'm surely not the target demographic - 47 year old chubby suburban white guy.
Now I wouldn't say it.
I wouldn't mention that I like it, out of some sort of embarrassment, but there are some really talented people doing clever things with positive messages these days under the "rap" banner, and you might take another look.
Folks like Macklemore and George Watsky are the first two I think of, but there are a bunch of them.
Cllydoscope ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:57:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But some rap music absolutely sucks...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:19:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fite me IRL fam
meatboy77 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 20:49:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being honest and saying what you feel is better than dancing around for fear of hurting somebody's feelings. Are you part of the young Political Correctness generation? Sounds like it.
[deleted] ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 17:20:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should at least see the appeal in me rather than hate me without giving me a chance.
joshg8 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:02:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did, and you squandered it by being a dismissive jerkoff.
Phunterrrrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah seriously. Being a dismissive jerkoff is MY THING, you copycat.
Andernerd ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:13:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whether or not this is true, thinking this won't help your cause at all.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:27:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should at least see the appeal in my joke before hating it without giving it a chance.
Andernerd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:39:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, didn't realize you were joking. I've seen people say things like this seriously.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:43:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Those people don't deserve to have their appeal seen before hating them. Now, me on the other hand...
Deriksson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honest question. Why is it bad to hope that people will give you a chance before placing judgement and determining they dislike you?
Andernerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The bad part is the mentality some have that other people should change to make their lives happier/better. Whether they should or shouldn't doesn't really matter; thinking this isn't going to help that person. What they should do is actively work to improve their own lives, regardless of how unfair they perceive things to be.
Deriksson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's kinda what I was thinking you were getting at, thanks!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That just sounds like terrible marketing on your end. You should fire whoever is in charge of your PR.
FairyOfTheStars ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[tips fedora] Je m'appeal blerg34.
TheNewElite250 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:58:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can go the other way as well. All too many times I've had fans of show/game/some other thing tell me that I couldn't dislike it, or I haven't seen enough, etc. Recently wasted 50 hours watching every episode of Game of Thrones to settle disagreement with a friend that I can dislike it.
LoppyQ ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:02:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you can totally dislike it but can you can atleast see why they would like it.
TheNewElite250 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. This seems to be irrelevant to most people it's come up with, sadly. Not all, but most that bring it up seem to bring it up for this reason.
(And yes, I was foolish enough to waste 50 hours to make a point. She was impressed, at least.)
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's something! I had to explain to my friend why i didnt like the generic World of warcraft style fantasy game setting.
TheNewElite250 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. They can be rather dull if you don't get seriously into the lore. Can't stand most, but have been on RuneScape so long I am 90% about the lore.
LoppyQ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:18:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cant get into mass effects gameplay. mostly cause i suck at shooters. but the lore! i'm into so hard into it don't even care.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
World of Warcraft's setting isn't all that generic, though. It has a ton of steampunk influences, with everything from airplanes to tanks to gatling guns to giant submarines.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well the whole colorful MMO fantasy look. but now that i look back on it i think im blinded by the shoulder pad guy with large weapon look. I see it all the time. IMHO Panda place is best land. Cow is best race. Thats how much wow i've played.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:35:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not defending one way or another here I'm just saying if you go into something with the assumption that you aren't going to like it.... You probably won't like it.
TheNewElite250 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:51:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, but not always for me. (luckily!) Usually expectations match up, but I had expectations of Breaking Bad being dull that turned out to be a close second for all-time favorite show. It's unusual, but hey, at least it happens!
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like people like this, but I have been this person.
I have a friend who refuses to watch HIMYM. I normally wouldn't care, except that her reasons for not even trying to watch it is because she doesnt think it will be funny (i can handle that, even if that reason is completely unfounded) and because of NPH character. She heard someone describe Barney and decided that the show was awful, because Barney is the opposite of real life NPH.
The worst part is my friends and I all quote the show to each other, and she always laughs and asks where its from. We tell her, and she still won't watch it. I think she's just being stubborn at this point.
GoT, though, that's a different story. I love the books and I enjoy the show, but it's not for everyone. It has elements of everything, but first and foremost it's fantasy which isn't everyone's cup of tea.
Kudos to you for sitting through it, how you managed to even pay attention to something that doesn't interest you for that long takes dedication. You must be one stubborn sumbitch (in the best way, of course). It probably meant a lot to your friend that you did that, though.
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. Yeah, stubborn sums it up. I love fantasy settings and I perhaps would like the books more, depending how far drawn apart they are from the show. Just something about the show didn't work for me. Maybe I just like having characters that last on average a season before death. Hah.
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I resent some of the deaths, some were necessary haha
There's always the whole books vs. movies/shows argument, but in GoTs case the books really are better.
The show misses out on all the inner dialogue/inner struggles which makes a world of difference I find.
Also, the books have so much more information that the series just can't cover. For example, Brans story isn't my favorite in either form, but at least in the books it has a specific role and has more depth to it that keeps me wanting to see what happens to him. In the show, I see Bran and I roll my eyes haha
If you do like fantasy than I recommend the books. The first 3 are the best, IMO :)
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first real death seemed... To set the tone. It seemed necessary to the story, in a way, but seemed like the entire story was just a repetition of that moment from then on. It disappointed me. Brann as well, seems such a supporting character
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:18 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really was, it was the cataclyst that put the whole cluster fuck in motion haha
Some of the other deaths were necessary, most weren't. I think GRRM is a bit of a sadist, or he was running out of plot twists so he created some lame ones.
Brans story seems like its turned into a supporting role, but for a while there it was leading to something huge. I don't know if it'll still get to where I thought it was going, but I hope so because it'll be quite the game changer.
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:26 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed. I think BB took much more investment in death. Every death in BB fluidly led into a continuing storyline or arc. Sure, some did in GoT, but most ended up being passing notions later on at best.
From the start it seemed Brans would be a huge, huge storyline and then it really ramped up to it.. Then it was kinda, eh, he's here every few episodes, oh he did this... Not much focus, just clips.
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:31 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most deaths in GoT seem to want to be significant, and I guess they could be weakly argued that they are, but until all the story lines start actually advancing again they're just annoying.
Like Catlyn. I'm not sure how far in the story you are or how much you know, but her death started to be significant and then it seems like that story line was just forgotten about.
IMO after the third book, when it seems like GRRM starts reaching, the deaths just start seeming unnecessary.
What you said about Bran is just spot on haha
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:34 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I covered all TV episodes. Her and Rob seemed to want to be such a major one- But it just... Wasn't. Yeah, it set off a chain of events with Brianne. That became it's own story arc, which just passively mentioned Catlyn a few times later. That's pretty much it.
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:05 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the books it turns into something way better. I've heard whisperings that it'll be included in this season of the show, but I just don't know how they'll do that. To tell all the other stories, and hers, and not have any of them edited to crap to the point of taking away from them to fit it all in?
Unless they make it more than 10 episodes, it doesn't seem to likely :(
Brianne and her story... I don't know where it's going really. In the book or the show. Sansa's arc has really deviated from the book, and the next book hasn't even been done yet.
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:58 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, idk, it seems like Brianne/whatever is done almost or will be a 'I'm here in the background of yet another Sansa/Arya' scene. Maybe down the road she finds herself in Braavos and happens upon Arya again, after failing duty to Sansa. Just seems like she's a mess of a character. Shame too, her character is interesting to me. Just meh writing for it.
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:05 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like most of the characters, she's got a lot of potential that we will probably never see her reach.
I don't mea to keep saying this, but in the book she's a far more interesting character! Again, that comes from being able to read her thoughts and how she's processing everything.
I hope she gets a chance to redeem herself!
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:15 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I will definitely give the books a try. I like the characters for most part (except Geoffrey. I know he's supposed to be the complete shit character you hate, but fucking hell I couldn't stand looking at him) and the setting so might as well
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:05 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha even the way his name is spelled is douchy. Geoffrey.
At least in the books you can picture his face however you want lol
You won't be sorry you read the books! The series is my favorite type of book to read, especially the effort that gets put into the world itself and all the lore and history!
This discussion we've had inspired me to re-read it again for the 5th time now haha, I can't get enough!
TheNewElite250 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:59 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the way they say it... "Jaw-free" Bleh. But yeah, the lore is big to me. I'm glad it came out positive for you too! :D
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:54 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well enjoy reading the books, there is so much more in there!
Lore FTW haha
TheNewElite250 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:18 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed. Seeya around Reddit!
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignore the username, but I'm incredibly annoyed by people who wouldn't stop bitching that "the book is better - the book is always better!!!" Who is even making a comparison? Is it a competition? Who cares if movie Ana behaved a little differently towards Mr. Grey?
Prepare for /r/iamverysmart people bleating about the upcoming Ready Player One adaptation. It's gonna be the male equivalent of Twihards and Beliebers.
muddyrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:18 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it depends completely on what's being adapted.
In some cases, books are better, in others the movies are.
People are going to compare them because it's the same story being told in different mediums, it's inevitable. There's going to be differences, which version of the story is better?
For example, I hate reading Stephen King, his writing style isn't for me, but I love his stories and I'll watch movie versions.
Another example is GoT, the show deviates from the books in significant ways. Is it better or worse? I can't actually answer that because the next book hasn't fucking been released yet, but when I have something to compare the show to I'll form my opinion.
Some people take differences between books and movies/shows really personally, some people enjoy it. Unless something gets really fucked up in a terrible way, I usually enjoy differences. Sometimes GoT the show makes changes I don't like, sometimes they do. It's kept me really engaged in the story though, so I won't complain haha
GiantDuarf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's dedication. I think I have patience when it comes to these things, but 50 hours is beyond the call of duty. Good on you sir, it means you care about the other person. I've also come to terms that yes, there are people out there who can dislike Game of Thrones (though I sure hope you don't hate it).
TheNewElite250 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't say full hate. I hate the fandom it's gained, at times, for the people who seem more interested in the various sex scenes than anything. But by large, I don't hate it. Nice world. I'd like to like it, as it seems to be a deep and colorful world, as is why I love RuneScape.
Just some of the characters and storylines really make it hard for me to actually like it. Most of the Daenerys Targaryen storyline I actually liked. It oddly seems to be the most consistently upkept along the seasons thus far. A good range of emotions, sex scenes that made sense story wise (Sorry, some of the others just... Seemed placed for views.) and a good character to follow, who makes judgment calls instead of defaulting to betray instantly.
GiantDuarf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, it's kind of peaked and is going down hill, albeit slowly, especially the most recent season. Personally I like the books better, but then again, they're not even that different, they're kind of the same thing except one is more detailed and you can hear their inner monologues. It's just that the the way the books handle things is kind of better. Many of the things which may not have made sense in the show adaptation made more sense in the context of the book where everything was actually fleshed out and not rushed or comes out of no where.
Still, they're long as fuck and if you watched 50 hours of Game of Thrones and felt nothing, then I sure as hell wouldn't recommend the books (maybe as an audiobook if you frequently walk your dog and want to do something while you walk him like I do - even then, it still might not be right for you).
Dexiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had the same thing happen with Naruto. I watched almost 100 episodes, constantly being told "it gets better soon".
I didn't enjoy Game of Thrones either but thankfully haven't been nagged to watch that much. There's been a personal effort though because I feel left out. Started reading the books instead and I can actually understand what's happening now!
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might pick up the books or at least read an eBook some time. Good world and characters, maybe the dramatization just ruined it for me.
SirTD ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:34:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend often has blind hate for things, just because. It's fucking frustrating when he shits on something and won't listen to people who try and explain why they/others might like it.
LoppyQ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate that especially when you want to convince them otherwise and they interrupt you with. "No no no no i don't care." Boiling rage.
SirTD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:15 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Or "bro I'm kidding". Maybe, but also maybe not.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:44:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At the same time, having a negative opinion on something you know about gives people the impression that your backbone isn't a limp noodle, and that you have some interesting personality quirks.
LoppyQ ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:50:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't mean you cant see the appeal in it. I mean i fucking hate apple products but i can't see why people would use them. And hating something as a personality quirk varys. Like, "I fucking hate redbean paste" compared to. "Gee wiz i hate those blacks."
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:11:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah.. I'd have to say being a skinhead isn't exactly the kind of endearing personality quirk I was getting at.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Assdolf_Shitler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:20:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
blackpeoplemeat.com
naturalborn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:04:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck dude
ofcourseimanxious ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:35:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. Don't be one of those people who starts to fake shriek in pain because some song you don't like comes on. Just say you dislike it and move on.
epsilonbob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if it's the 7th time in a row they've played "What's New Pussycat" is it okay to shriek in pain then?
ofcourseimanxious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, real shrieks are fine. Forced fake shrieks are not.
ivydesert ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:27:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is incredibly true. I keep telling one of my friends who struggles with talking to women that he'd have better luck if he just looked at things with a more open, positive outlook.
Lo and behold, I overhear the conversation he's having with a prospective ladyfriend...
Her: "The fog last night was so cool!"
Him: "Fuck fog, fog is the fucking worst."
Her: "Well, it's pretty, and--"
Him: "No, it's fucking stupid. I can't drive in it, it's annoying, and I can't see shit in it. Fuck fog, fuck everything about fog."
Her: -sip-
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see shit like this all the time with my mother and stepdad. If he keeps that up.....
ivydesert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's great to be passionate, but jeez dude, liking or disliking something doesn't have to be a night and day kind of difference.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. there is totally like...factors and stuff.
c010rb1indusa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is great advice. You can understand and appreciate something without liking it. It just makes you come across and more friendly, accepting and diplomatic while still being honest.
I always use Ryan Seacrest as an example. You can not like Ryan Seacrest, that's totally fine. But don't dismiss the entire empire he's built around his brand and how he's lined himself up as the successor to Dick Clark. That shit is impressive!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my sister does this. She always "I HATE this or that" but then she's really into things like Twilight and bad tattoos. I find it funny that she doesn't see a connection about how the world is always love and hate. Sometimes there's a middle ground.
BZH_JJM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've started doing that more and more, and have felt generally happier and better about my life. Getting mad about things that I might not like is simply tiring.
goandgetthem123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ah... this is making me very self conscience. Adopting it immediately. THANKS!
persephonethedamned ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To bounce off of this: picky eaters. But mainly people who refuse to try new food.
My boyfriend hates seafood. But he has literally avoided the stuff like the plague since he was 4. So I keep asking him to just TRY it. There were SO MANY foods that I hated at age 4 that I love now (cheese is one of them!). He's 25 and he won't eat anything but chicken nuggets and Mac & cheese and it's literally embarrassing eating out in public with a man who eats like a child and won't try a single fucking 'adult' food.
My family made the mistake of inviting him to one of those really fancy restaurants where he ordered ravioli expecting chef boyardee and got chef ramsey. He was literally revolted and never touched it. Ordered a side of French fries and ate that instead. It is literally his absolute worst quality.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remembered where id only eat chicken nugs and mac and cheese when i was freaking 9ish. If i didn't change my tastes i wouldn't be as ...whats the word... "eat everythingy" as i am now. I always take risks when eating out. I want to taste foods around the world.
hothotsauce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I watched the first three Twilight films (all on planes). Hating something I saw is more justified than hating something I didn't.
mlong14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm shocked when people react so harshly when I mention a celebrity like Kathy Griffin. She automatically says she hates her. How can you hate someone you never met?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sims are weird. I want to give a train one a try.
Jaded_Jackalope ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you have a good, well thought out reason why you don't like something popular, try not to talk about it as if you hold someone's interest in that thing against them.
rimsh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Nickelback
Smalls_Biggie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
aka be open minded
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to add that even if you don't like it there's no reason not to be tactful about it.
Maria-Stryker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The golden rule of life: You're allowed to not like something as long as you're not a jerk about it.
freeandterrifying ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great one. I think that caring about people includes caring about the things they love. Some people I used to be friends with acted that way all the time. I got pretty into comic books, movies, shows, etc. kind of recently and even though I wasn't talking to them about it nonstop it would get shut down almost every time no matter what the situation. I'm a pretty emotional person (not overly emotional, I've worked on improving that aspect of myself a lot) so this hurt me pretty deeply. I found something I loved and I just wanted to share it with the people I loved. It kept happening and I just couldn't take that.
What I'm saying is that this simple thing can make the difference between keeping and losing friends.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like cocain
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend recently introduced me to the Arctic Monkeys. I like them. I'm one of those Nickelback sympathizers who say they don't deserve the amount of hate they get.
NESoteric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend has commented several times that he's happy that I take an interest in his interests. And I really appreciate that he, too, takes an interest in mine. Thanks to this, my interests have grown, his have grown, and we have more in common now.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having similar interests to your SO is totally the bees knees. Me and my boyfriend have similar taste sin videogames so whatever he buys i would want to play too.
NESoteric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the subject, but I'm so glad we have so much in common, like I'm REALLY glad him and his best friend like fighting games, we sit up at night playing Mortal Kombat X and it's just a blast. None of my friends like fighting games, besides Smash Bros, so I never have anyone to play some of my favorite games with. It's even better now that we've played enough, and he's gotten good enough to beat me. So much more fun when there's a challenge and no holding back.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend kicks my ass in a lot of games. Does make me salty sometimes but im glad we dont get mad or argue when i cant win a single match. I cant wait to move in with him so we both can increase our console count. he has a PS4....and i have so many games i have yet to play. I haven't even played mortal kombat X yet.
NESoteric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend had an old CRT TV and an NES. I practically live at his place anymore, and from this, he now has wifi, my flat screen, ps4, and WiiU are at his apartment, as well as my blu ray movies. As well as a few more pots, pans, and cooking utensils, seasonings, and I have a tooth brush and some make up there.
The rest of my ~40 consoles and 1150 games are still at my apartment. I take what I want over, and try not to clutter his place up.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hnnng collections. I wanna see. Gotta be a big apartment
NESoteric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty good size, though it's packed. All the gaming is in one room, 3TVs, 4 book shelves of games, and lots of shelves/TV stands.
these are a year old, so it's grown a lot, but I don't have any recent pictures: http://imgur.com/a/v5ZOA
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cant wait till im done with Tech school so i can job and spend monies on things i dont need.
NESoteric ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's nice, during the last few years when I was single, I basically referred to it as "Dating myself" and I treated myself VERY well.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once im done. Me and my boyfriend are going to DINK so hard. So much purchasing rubbish!
NESoteric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha nice! Yeah, my funds have been a bit tight lately, but this Friday will put me back to square one and I can start personal spending again.
YeahImJustThatAwesom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the biggest issue I have with my girlfriend! She will blindly hate things and feign ignorance at why anyone would enjoy it.
Drives me up the fucking wall.
katha757 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In one of my graphic design classes in college our teacher made a point of making you backup your opinion on something. If we were critiquing each others projects, we had to say why we do or don't like it. It really made me start thinking instead of spewing bullshit like I used to do.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
some people have the worst reasons to hate stuff. Like it can be watered down to. "Just because" or "cause its stupid" and then the pure rage comes. That is a good way to practice not blindly hating something.
THE_BIFOCAL_BROCCOLI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if my friends prefer the Star Wars prequels over the originals??
And what about sand? It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PANIC. also sand makes glass! so there is that. Just think of sand as pre-dish substance.
rblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like anal sex? Everyone online gets mad at me when I tell them I think it's gross since poop comes out of there.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a double edged sword. It's gross but feels hella good giving and receiving. gotta clean back there.... ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ) I wouldn't blame ya for not liking it for that reason.
rblue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll try it on my wife next time she falls asleep on her side.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Careful she might try it on you.
rblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good call. I may wind up as a moderator at /r/pegging. ;)
Edit: oh shit. It's an actual subreddit. NSFW guys.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)!! If that surprises you, try not to go in too deep!
rblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knuckle-deep, son... Knuckle-deep...
element42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But olives are so very gross
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taste is almost impossible to see the other persons opinion on. Bleh- Olives.
vededju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. My sister in law is like this. It's gotten to the point that I don't even bother to ask her if she wants to do something (let's all go the aquarium, or let's all go watch Star Wars) because there is a greater than 50% chance that she will think it's stupid and she will go on and on for 20 minutes about how stupid it is.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Infinite rage. My sister would do that but with restaurants.
jaxxon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is good. Not easy, but learning to gain appreciation for things - mostly showing genuine interest in the things other people are into, especially so that you can have empathy for them, is super super helpful.
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less hate makes your life super great.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it's radiohead and pearl jam. Then you're allowed.
Wolverfuckingrine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So much this.
It will trigger the "wow, you're fun at parties" thought.
N8CCRG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Franz Ferdinand - The Dark of the Matinee
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know I've always hated genocide, but now I can see the appeal in wiping out an entire "race" of people. I'll have to give it a chance next time, thanks for the advice!
LoppyQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you're welcome Satan.
sparktika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't yuk other people's yays".....Mrs. Lindemen, kindergarten teacher.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a teacher who said the same thing but she said it like "Don't yuck my yum" rolls off the tongue like a phlegm .
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see no appeal in smoking cigarettes.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably shouldn't try to attract smokers.
PandaWithAnRPG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about minions???
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes i can see the appeal of hating the ever loving shit out of them.
satansheat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still hate glee even though I have given it plenty of viewings with my ex. Why would I enjoy watching kids sing / ruin songs they weren't even alive to hear. The show is stupid and the premise is stupid. If I had a nickel for every signing show America has I would be able to buy the networks and stop them from making sing/ dance shows. Woman can we get a better hobby than these. Half the time you all don't even like talented artist who are good at singing or dancing. I mean Adele is the bomb. But many of you want to hear Taylor swift whine or listen to selena gomez. It's just laughable and sad that girls love dancing and singing as a hobby but yet all the tv you see avoids talented artist and we praise the mediocre ones.
I also have been raised in music because my mother has a degree and taught it for 25 years. Anyone who has taken music classes knows the shit on the radio and tv is garbage. Not saying all of it is. But the majority of mainstream music now a days is trash.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really have to wade through all that trash to find anything good these days. Just like older days. Pop rubbish passes. You cant ever rely on mainstream media for influences in your tastes. Afterall they want to show the average person what they want and not specific people with specific tastes. I dont watch tv anymore. Cable box has been out of my room for 2 years now. You dont have to put up with mainstream medias crap anymore.
moathismail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that what opinions are though? I love how reddit spouts out some anti-human behaviour suggestions like its nothing, but in reality this is impossible to achieve. The reason people with similar interests get along is because they blatantly dislike the same things, no need for an explanation or an attempt to see the appeal others might see in it.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is more like expanding upon yes or no. you can still hate it. But you kinda seem like a dick just saying "I hate it just because" Hey a lot of things are human nature, like shitting but we control our shit.
moathismail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you gotta go you gotta go.
moathismail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And boy do I go
Dem827 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the kardashians and no amount of tolerance or open-mindedness will change that stance.... Fuckin dump me.
LoppyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% understandable.
defiantleek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, and when you're in an argument remove yourself from it and try to see it from the point of view you disagree with. It may help you change your mind, or at least it will help you understand how to better continue the conversation.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 3258 points ยท Posted at 17:01:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Physically: a very simple skincare routine of face washing and moisturizing gives you a glow. Very simple workouts like pushups and
sit ups* and squats (and, and, and) make a fairly quick and noticeable change in posture which makes you walk more erect (giggity) and is apparently an attractive traitMentally: read, have interests and learn how to share knowledge
Justin620 ยท 1647 points ยท Posted at 19:43:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
MatttheBruinsfan ยท 582 points ยท Posted at 20:53:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what is your opinion on business cards?
Justin620 ยท 672 points ยท Posted at 21:18:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best cards are simple, yet defined. I find off-white best achieves that effect. I believe the color is called "bone"
Silian Grail is a font that I have found complements the color well.
Of course, no card can be complete without a tasteful thickness and, dare I say, a watermark.
[deleted] ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 23:14:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:18:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you like Phil Collins?
Zedzdeadhead ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:54:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You like Huey Lewis and the News?
AFakeman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:53:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humour.
symphony64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a raincoat?
ejm4th116 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:10:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is quite possibly the funniest thing I have read on reddit so far
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:25:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Side note: while he obsessed over the look and feel of the business card "acquisition's" was misspelled.
That movie was great, man
TheButchman101 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:27:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, much like Scott Montgomery's card. Y'know he's worth $800 million?
Carl_the_Glorious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know he got the Fisher account?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never knew Justin was a nickname for Patrick. The things you learn on Reddit...
ThatDamnRaccoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
op delivered the fuck out of that
YourFairyWishPrince ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally watching this movie for the first time right now. Thats fucking weird.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jordan Schlansky?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Impressive. Very nice.
SknarfM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought eggshell white was better? My memory is fuzzy here.
jamie_plays_his_bass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you okay? You're sweating.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:49:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Tp_for_my_cornholio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's Justin
Rockytopwriter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, yes...I must know and will do.
Dingo989 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
WulfySky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't realise until I read your comment :D
Dot_Consonant ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:58:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit but look great.
caljor ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:12:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently bought the same products following Patrick Bateman's skincare routine, except for the ice pack (you can get the same result by drinking water regularly) and final moisturizer lotion.
It was a big improvement on my looks and I even feel better during the day. Takes some time but you can do it faster when it becomes routine, and it is worth it in my opinion.
Pitta_ ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:59:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
whenever this comes up i like to link to the /r/skincareaddiction thread about how horrible of a routine this actually is. it's far too abrasive and harsh for a normal person to do daily. If it's working for you that's great but it's really not the best starting point.
caljor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I don't follow the book or the movie blindly, but adapted it to what gets me the best results, and used some threads on /r/skincareaddiction as reference.
Also, I have really oily skin, so routines like exfoliating every day might not be for everyone but have been great for me.
alittlekink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a fellow oily-skinned person, I want to encourage you to look into other options for keeping your oil at bay. This may be an effective short-term solution to your oil problem, but it is extremely harsh and will have very negative long-term effects on your skin.
caljor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What products have been succesful in getting this effect for you? How many times a week can I exfoliate without damaging my skin?
alittlekink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't recommend physical exfoliation at all, but you could probably get away with doing it once/week as long as it's not too harsh (eg. wash cloth is gentler than an almond scrub). Chemical exfoliation can be done daily.
Finding a heavy moisturizer that didn't break me out was the best thing I could do for my oily skin. I'm oily as a result of my skin over-compensating for how dry it is, so feeding it as much moisture as possible helps.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:02:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much does this cost altogether? Do you buy brand name or generic?
LameBond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, we need products and links man!
caljor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:07:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used this page for reference on what to buy.
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I couldn't give you links because I bought them locally, I found what I wanted on an Avon catalogue and then ordered then directly from a person.
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I think in the link I posted they put some expensive products, you could probably find them cheaper from other brands and get the same result. The price should be very different because I bought them in Brazil but it was around $40-50,00.
LameBond ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:53:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually looking at this exact page earlier today before I even saw your post! The reason I asked was because I also noticed the products were expensive and wanted to get a second view so I appreciate your response, I'll look into avon thanks.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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caljor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He said "your skin looks good, so soft" and tried to touch it. I pushed his hand away with my fist and replied: "the compliment was sufficient, Luis"
Ardgarius ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:21:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but did you activate your almonds?
SICK_AS_FUCKKK ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:30:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When ever I read this I'm envious. I want to wake up with the energy to do all of this every single morning :(
kyleisawesome555 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:31:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you start doing it, you will have energy. Starting is the hardest part.
TRexCymru ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:35:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no real me. Only an entity. Something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping your's and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.
stymie99 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:47:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's one hell of a routine, only a psycho would do that every day
Meaty-clackers ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:54:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you feel about Huey Lewis and the News?
Justin620 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:28:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.
Zohren ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:52:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This just feels like so much time and effort. I can think of a thousand other things I can do with my time that I would enjoy more than doing 1000 stomach crunches.
How long does all this take you?
Also, sounds expensive.
Edit: I'm an idiot. I knew that shit sounded vaguely familiar. -_-
Justin620 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
source
Stronglyweak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:08:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope you know that off by heart.
kingkobalt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:39:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half way through I was thinking, "this guy must be a psychopath if he does this every..Ooohhhh"
Try-Another-Username ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
expected this.
RallyUp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try telling this to a staff sargent or a corrections officer, or anyone who survival preps. Film response and deliver.
Orchir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Although this all goes out the door when I decide to eat human brain
Some_idiot_commented ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I liked the movie. I was told the standard "Then you'll love the book". Book was a good read but maybe this was a case of movie beating book. Christian Bale at his best.
culnaej ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got to 'balanced' before I could tell where you were going.
Supermusicfriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like the kind of guy who has a bone colored business card, and I'll bet the lettering is something called Silian Grail.
Justin620 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
indeed
GTME93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what does your business card look like?
ChristianChristopher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg my fav movie
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, is it bad that the most crazy part of that (in my opinion) comment was 'an herb-mint...'?
I know that Americans pronounce 'herb' without the 'h', but to see a written example that reflects the difference in pronunciation... Ah, so weird. So so weird.
qdhcjv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once you're done with all that, it's time for bed again
thekream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jesus christ every morning? You must look like a newborn baby from all that
fupreviousotterpops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. I was taking notes until I got to the water activated gel cleanser...
murphalicious55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy does not fuck.
liquidthc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, first time I've ever come across a chick named Justin.
DatHon3yBadger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At first I was thinking "Wow this guy has his shit to together" before catching the reference.
fugazied ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I did all of these steps, I had all the characteristics of a human beingโflesh, blood, skin, hairโbut my depersonalization was so intense, had gone so deep, that my normal ability to feel compassion had been eradicated, the victim of a slow, purposeful erasure. I was simply imitating reality, a rough resemblance of a human being, with only a dim corner of my mind functioning.
nthinbtqstns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know of r/skincareaddicts? They would like to have a word with you.
Plazmatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
EDIT: Oops it went over my head :( I figure most people already know this but I guess I'll keep this comment here for education purposes.
US doesn't regulate self cleaning products, and virtually everything you've said is pseudo science, you don't need special lotion to clean your pores, you need a substance that attracts particles with negative charges and particles with positive charges separately, IE basic water and soap. That's how cleaning before anti-bacterials works. Many of the skin care products you use are potentially bad for you with prolonged use, and could actually be worse than just using normal body wash or bar soap, and shampoo. A few bit of the things you've said have some truth to it, IE alchohol evaporates quickly, but whether or not that actually makes you look older begs the question, I could see it potentially drying out skin, but why you are just splashing alcohol on your face in the first place is beyond me.
Basic science:
Not enough sleep will make you look tired and sick, and less attractive, so just sleep on a normal schedule (6 - 9 hours), the same happens when you get too much sleep, but that usually takes effort on the part of the individual sleeping. You would have to try under normal circumstances to get too much sleep.
Being off your sleep schedule will have the same effects.
Exercise is also like sleep, you'll need it the same way you'll need sleep, but humans never actually lifted weights in prehistory, we ran to hunt our prey. You don't need to bench press for it to be considered decent exercise. Ideally if you want to not deal with the gym, you can do pretty good by doing at 45 minutes every day for running (this typically includes weekends, and you typically exploit the free time there to extend your run to maybe 1:30 to 2 hours if you are serious).
There are some caveats to this. When I say running, I mean actual running, it may not be fast all the way through, but your leg motions must match the human running motion, you shouldn't be walking. The main difference between running and walking is the number of feet you have on the ground at any given time, in walking you can have both, but in running you only have one.
Additionally you will want to not stop, it is recommended at the bare minimum 20 min of continuous running to actually get real muscle growth, but you shouldn't be stopping like that during your runs at all, it should be a straight 45 min run.
One thing you should know about the bodies of mammals in general, is that the more muscle mass we have, the more energy it takes to supply energy to these muscles. I believe muscles grow in the number of cells they have when you get stronger, unlike fat which you keep the same number of cells and they just become bigger, but regardless what happens is that the number of mitochondria, bacteria that animals host inside their cells that produce energy for your body, increases, requiring more sustenance to sustain supply to your muscles. So getting fit increases the rate at which you burn calories even if you are just sitting still.
This means that attaching another work out routine to your run is useful, and typical of decent runners, this typically includes a combination of push ups, crunches, leg lifts, elbow stands, and other core and arm work outs that don't require special equipment. Additionally these help with tone rather than bulk (well actually tone is a bullshit word, you have no control over your muscles other than how much you train any of them, so what were really saying here is that this exercise will help grow and maintain these muscles to a point that doesn't enter the "Human Hulk" stage of muscle growth)
It is also useful to perform stretches after a work out (though honestly it doesn't matter too much if you aren't training for a race) with your legs, and doing short sprints (a quarter of a mile or less, or 400 meters or less) which can be done before your long distance run, and take between 5 and 10 minutes to complete. Additionally sprints can be used as their own workout, and use some different muscles than long distance running, so its possible to interleave these workouts. Sprints also are not meant to be done consecutively, but you are also meant to feel the work out faster than a long distance run. An example of a sprint may be sprint 100 meters one place and back, have a thirty second break, and sprint again. The problem with full work out sprints is that it may cause damage to those who are older with sufficient persistence, humans, once again, were built for long distance running, not 100m dashes, and planning around them is much more complicated than long distance runs.
When talking about aging, especially for those of lighter complexion (and really even if you are of olive or light brown tone as well) avoid staying in direct sunlight with out sunblock for prolonged persistent periods of time. One sunburn isn't going to turn you into a leather wallet, but you are constantly in the sun with out any protection, especially if you are white, you'll end up looking like you are fifty by the time you reach your thirtieth birthday. Tanning salons are also a no no, they provide no net benefit from a real attractiveness point of view (the idea "darker = more attractive" in the west came from the industrial revolution in Great Britain, those who were darker where people rich enough to afford to escape dark smoggy indoor industry work to the coast lines or colonies where they were able to tan more, its associated with wealth). The sun over time destroys your skins ability to repair itself, tanning is a byproduct of this repair mechanism, and causes the leathery old texture you see in individuals who tan a lot, but even more nuanced effects are noticeable in attractiveness.
Exfoliation typically involves deep scrubbing on the skin. This is a stupid thing to indulge in. That deep scrubbing actually means a rough enough texture to lightly cut the surface of your skin. The reason people get zits is because your white blood cells are attacking foreign materials and organisms that have penetrated below your skin through our sweat glands (hence why most other animals don't get zits like we do). This is also why zits are white, white blood cells in high concentration. So when you "exfoliate" You are really just giving bacteria an easy entry point into your skin. Not worth it.
I would vouch against products that /u/Justin620 is talking about later (like "herb-mint" facial, I've found scant academic journal evidence that any facial does anything, or anything that results in a positive "youthful" appearance, something may increase the moisture retention in the skin for thirty minutes, but it may also reduce the elasticity of skin, making it look jolted and un-youthful). Because the US doesn't regulate personal health care products, using exotic products, or products that you don't normally use outside your normal regiment may have adverse effects. Case and point, the recent Crest case, and chemicals that increase sun sensitivity put in special shampoos, moisturizers and conditioners that cause skin problems when used before direct sun exposure. Any strange products that Justin, or others recommend you should talk to your dermatologist or other personal doctor first before trying, they can tell you what is actually in that product, whether it actually helps you and whether you are safe using it.
Bonus: heres an explanation of the bullshitty-ness of moisturizers, who knew when you put water on your skin with a coating of grease it stayed there? /s
http://www.health.harvard.edu/family_health_guide/moisturizers-do-they-work
Also note when you see "anti aging" in a product, it is typically just a moisturizer, in the US at least, there is no official terminology for anti aging, so advertisers are allowed to use the term ambiguously.
Justin620 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh dear lord... I sincerely hope you didn't write all this out for my comment.. it's just a popular quote from American Psycho
source
sorry... have an upvote
Plazmatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK, well now you get two upvotes.
ToneChop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I KNEW IT. As soon as you got to "ice pack while doing stomach crunches." We found Bateman people.
EllisDee_4Doyin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The minute I read "I can do 1000 now" I knew ;)
sparta981 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chris? Chris Traeger?
Shewhoisgroovy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ, how long does it take you to get ready in the morning?
dtowngirl18901 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did this kind of shit before I had kids. Now, ain't nobody got time for that. I'm lucky of I get a shower every third day. And that shower is taken with the ultimate speed because one of the three rugrats is doing something wrong.
eatmydonuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard all of that in his voice. And now I'm in the mood to see that movie again.
Death_Pig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then to go out and have a pigeon shit on it. Has happened to me. :S
_lukey___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is a joke and I've seen this before but I can't be certain...
generalgeorge95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that movie earlier today and was thinking exactly that.
alittlekink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So many things about this are actually really bad for you in the long-term, even if it provides you with satisfying short-term results. I highly recommend going to /r/skincareaddiction for advice on adjusting your routine to something less harsh.
Justin620 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll let Patrick Bateman know ;)
solo_loso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
care to mention what brands/products you use for this routine?
I started searching on amazon and had no idea what actually works for a spotty red, pore-y face.
Justin620 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't lol.
I wake up at 7:40 and get to work at 8.
That was a quote from "American Psycho"
although, if you find a good product let me know
solo_loso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hahahah.
I didn't even realize. It's been too long since I've watched.
Kallisti13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SUNSCREEN. please wear a sunscreen. It sounds like you take great care of yourself, but a sunscreen will make so much difference in the future, helping to reduce wrinkles, chance of cancer.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 19:43:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone gold him, pls?
EattheRudeandUgly ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:22:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Narcissist
Justin620 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:26:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
one could almost say psycho
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:54:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
has to be American though.
Pandaburn ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 19:18:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Push-ups without a pulling exercise to balance them can be bad for posture.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 19:21:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. True as well.
I was basically just saying "do some general, minimal exercise and you'll see change"
Awesome-o_O ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 00:21:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you know....don't be a bitch and get the fuck to the gym. Way easier said than done though...it took me years and achieving a fully developed brain (Age 25) to grasp this concept. 9 weeks of going 3-5 times a week now! I'm starting to look pretty good. Got a ways to go though!
PsylentKnight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:35:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bodyweight exercise is totally a viable option. You won't get super built, but you can definitely get hard. I always found going to the gym and working out for an hour a big hassle and super boring. Doing stuff throughout the day whenever I feel like it works way better for me.
Awesome-o_O ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:38:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have problems with boredom at the gym, but now I either go with people and I'm never bored or if I'm alone I listen to pumped up music and that helps me a ton. I go for 2 hours 3-5 times a week now. I started 170lbs with a fat belly and now I'm 178 with a small belly. I had a horrible skinny guy-dad bod going and it had to go especially being only 26. I'm selling myself short if I don't allow myself to have my body looking good while I'm young. I also wanted to feel better about myself and just in general.
Sponjah ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:07:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you, but you sound like a GNC store clerk.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kill it bruh!!!
The harsh truth is harsh and true. It is the most helpful and honest truth but it can be abrasive to those not quite there yet.
efitz11 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:59:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An easy home bodyweight exercise to balance push ups is inverted rows on a table.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FITie18agfg/T-Yg5UzGK-I/AAAAAAAAALE/K65ewEhYgGI/s1600/table+row+2.jpg
[deleted] ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 21:36:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This made me cringe. I wouldn't trust myself unless my table was bolted to the floor.
jmariorebelo ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 22:26:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm seeing that dude toothless in about 5 mins.
37casper37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine as long as your shoulders stay under the table you're good.
Noumenon72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never found a table that made this comfortable, but let-me-ups are indeed a great reverse pushup! You just have to find the right railing, or a pair of parallel bars where you can put your feet up on something.
Ewandowski ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:14:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So basically, I should follow Patrick Bateman's morning routine?
Hyoscine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:55:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honest question... I do a lot of pull-ups, but never push-ups; do you think I need to start?
domjeff ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:11:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what /u/yodelocity was saying, yes.
RubiconGuava ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:21:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a good idea. If you've got questions about calisthenic exercises like pullups, and training, pop by /r/bodyweightfitness. They're a helpful bunch.
Hyoscine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I'll swing by!
Pandaburn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you should. But a pull-heavy physique is probably more generally attractive, with regard to posture, which is what this thread is about. Also less likely to cause issues with your shoulder tendons.
RealJuanDoe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:47:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if joke or serious... If serious what are some pulling exercises you recommend?
Banamu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I want to say pull-ups are a good pulling exercise, but that's just an educated guess.
RubiconGuava ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For pushups, bodyweight rows are good. The best way to think of it is movements, so pushups are horizontal pushes, balance them with a horizontal pull. Work in a vertical pull & push and leg work and you have a full body workout.
RealJuanDoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Thanks man never thought of the pull but makes sense to keep the arms in motion.
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, totally serious. Why work only half the muscles in your arms and torso? A strong back is important for daily living, and biceps look good, yeah? So do some pull-ups or rows.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
truth has been spoken.
this is actually a problem with most workout programs. people neglect the 1:2 push to pull ratio a lot.
iamNebula ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1:2 ratio, mind explaining?
nerdrage74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some strength coaches recommend this technique as a good way to build a balanced physique. The bench press is a push movement - you move weight away from your body - while something like a row is a push movement.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Push movement....pull* movement
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
an optimal push pull ratio is 1:2 which means for every push exercise (like bench press, OHP etc.) you need to have two pull exercises (like rows, pull ups etc.) to balance it.
This is not just a loose recommandation.. it is important for long term joint health. Save shoulders and elbows by not neglecting it!
There is also the option to balance it by volume because in my first example one assumes the same amount of sets or roughly the same volume per exercise. If you want to balance it with volume you could do it like: 3 sets of Bench Press and 6 Sets of Rows.
I prefer to balance it by using both ways.
Generally you should go with the 1st way and follow up with the 2nd if necessary. Band pull aparts are a good daily exercise to help with the balance.
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do more of a 1:1, but when I started training I could row more than I could bench, which is unusual.
gotsomegainz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah just do like 10 pull ups every morning, nothing too hard :D
yodelocity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Balance them out with pullups.
Pushups works chest and triceps.
Pullups works back and biceps.
Cgdb10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea rowing is a good pulling exercise
personalcheesecake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shout out to /r/bodyweightfitness
Indoorsman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get under a chair, grab on and lift yourself a bit, using your legs/lower body to make it easier/harder as you need. Not perfect but it gets the basic job done.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To further your point, for anyone wondering what a reasonable pulling exercise could be, try overhand chin ups.
meatduck12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are there any you can do with just dumbells?
RubiconGuava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bent over rows are a decent accessory pulling exercise. Make sure not to round your back though. Otherwise laying rows using a solid table work very well.
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, as another poster said, bent over rows! But your back can get pretty strong pretty fast, so make sure your dumbells are heavy enough to make it a challenge.
nonhiphipster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have any suggestions of this? Something I can do easily at home, perhaps.
RubiconGuava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Laying rows, holding onto the edge of a solid table that can support your weight.
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out /r/bodyweightfitness. I'd recommend getting a pull-up bar to put on a doorway, but there are more ideas there.
cynoclast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Push-ups balanced by archery with a heavy bow.
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That might work, but you'd still probably end up with an imbalance between your right and left sides, unless you practice ambidextrously.
cynoclast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe a little. I practice with a bent left elbow (holding the bow) and my right arm is never straight during the draw, so it's probably not as imbalanced as you might think.
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but your left arm is working to keep from bending (working triceps mainly) and your right is working to stay bent (biceps mainly) so your arms may be unbalanced. It should be good on the back and shoulders though.
cynoclast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like you've never shot a bow before... The bicep on your draw arm is doing nothing. It's in the back/shoulder.
Pandaburn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have, but it wasn't recently, and I never got good at it :P
It just seems like since its an asymmetrical position, it's likely to have some associated imbalance, so I wanted to bring it up. I'm sure you can judge better.
cynoclast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is an asymmetrical position. You're right there, but the actual muscle strain is pretty symmetrical on the back. I just went and tried it....less symmetrical in the shoulders though.
So given I was talking about balancing pecs, this is a pretty good way to. :P
Especially with a 60# draw like my recurve. :P
Randomn355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no can about it, they ARE. Solution? get a chepa set of dumbells and a pull up bar.
Sit ups, push ups, pull ups and you can do dumb bell squats. For ~ ยฃ35 you can do a full work out at home that is easy to expand on without really buying anything extra. Can add bicep curls, and any number of shoulder exercises.
keylogthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is it bad for posture? Just curious, thanks in advance if you reply to this.
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The muscles you use to push also pull your shoulders forward and rotate your arms in (so your thumbs face your body instead of your palms). If they get much stronger than the muscles in your back that perform the opposite functions, it can result in a resting posture with shoulders forward, back hunched or rounded, and elbows pointing out. Another poster described it as "like a gorilla ".
keylogthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:30 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, okay, good to know. So what exercise counters that?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:48 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not bad to do an exercise or two of pushups and not back. However, Its bad for your posture if you do lots of pushups/other chest exercises and very little back. This is because your chest muscles will become over developed and back muscles under developed. So your chest muscles will pull on your shoulder more than your back and your shoulders will be pulled forward. Same goes for all muscles, when you develop one muscle you want to develop its antagonist (opposite). i.e. bicep/tricep abs/lower back calf/tibialis anterior and so on.
Th3HypnoToad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True that. Screwed up my hunchback way worse while working towards the 100 push-ups in one go routine to try to get pecs. Wound up looking like a gorilla.
Weighted pull-ups and weighted planks are one of the best to do for basic weightlifting, even if people have to start out on the lightest weights. Lifting gets a LOT easier after you get comfortable on those with proper form
Kevin1798 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very true. Tip to new gym goers: you have heard what a bench press is, you want to get it as high as possible. If you don't do an exercise such as a bent-over row (or some row varient) in 6 months your chest muscles will be way stronger then your back muscles, pulling your shoulders forward and giving your terrible ape-like posture. Get in the habit as a newbie and you'll have a lifetime of regret free, balanced gains (bro).
DoesntUnderstandJoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what type of "pulling exercise"?
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rows with barbells or dumbells, or pull-ups are the first that come to mind.
El_muscely_beardo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rows for the ho's. Benches for the wenches. But seriously though doing a push/pull superset e.g. Dumbbell press/ single arm row is a good way to build strength and keep body fat low.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, really? I used to do a ton of push-ups and nothing else back when I didn't have time to go to the gym regularly, maybe that's why my posture is so shit.
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try doing some pull-ups!
herpendatderp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have enough core and back to do them with the proper form you'll be fine lol
IBleedTeal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are there any i can do at home?
Oskie5272 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:17:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! People don't realize that you need to balance yourself out if you're lifting. Otherwise you'll look stupid as fuck like that guy from Jersey Shore. Mike I think was his name
ahhter ยท 353 points ยท Posted at 19:06:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Situps are bad, planks and leg lifts are good.
Meekrobite ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:17:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you elaborate as to why situps are bad? I haven't done any situps in awhile, mostly just the various crunches I learned while in martial arts. I'm just curious.
Pandaburn ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 19:21:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Supposedly they put pressure on your spine in a bad way. They're also using your core muscles to put yourself in an unnatural position (curled up) and it would be better to practice using them for what they're for, which is primarily stabilizing your body while you do things, hence planks.
zeldaisaprude ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 19:24:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two years from now we're going to be told situps are good again and all the other things are bad.
Chuurp ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:36:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The people who actually study this stuff are almost never the ones jumping back and forth on what's good and bad. It's the people reporting on it, trying to make a story, or selling something.
Aleski ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 19:36:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm... not really. Anything that puts strain on your lower back is going to be bad for you.
po-handz ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:34:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a weak back about a week back
fenwaygnome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, you
cefriano ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:07:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a nice gym routine for a while where I would start with 120 crunches. I now have pretty severe sciatica in both legs that makes it incredibly uncomfortable to sit for more than like 30 minutes at a time. No idea if the two things are connected (the overtime I was working at my desk job certainly didn't do me any favors), but damn I wish I had seen this comment sooner.
Noumenon72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure your injury and situation are far different from mine, but what cured my sciatica was deadlift. With almost zero weight at first, just finding the way to move that didn't hurt, I repatterned the muscles. The nerve pain that would cause me to seize up was my body saying "whoa! joint very unstable! do everything possible to keep it from slipping out!" It was a false signal, of course, my body just wasn't getting any nerve signals from the muscles that are supposed to stabilize the sacroiliac joint, and the ones it had been using had been strained beyond their ability to cope.
I know most sciatica goes away on its own in six weeks, but I really credit the deadlift because I experimented several times: every day off, it would get worse instead of better, every day I went to the weight room and painstakingly exercised it would get better. Even though it took me several stages of contorting myself just to sit down on the bench.
cefriano ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, that's what's kinda weird about mine. There's no action that makes it get sharply worse; it just sort of gets gradually worse throughout the day. This has made physical therapy pretty challenging, since my therapist will have me move different ways and will push on parts of my back to see if anything makes it worse, but nothing really changes when he moves things and since I do my therapy in the morning, it's very mild and hard to give feedback. It used to be so bad at the end of the day that it felt like there was a hot metal wire coiled around my leg all the way down to my foot. Now, my butt and the bottoms of my thighs just feel gradually more and more prickly until it feels like I'm sitting on needles. And unfortunately, mine hasn't gone away after almost six months (I waited a stupidly long time to start therapy, because I thought the leg pain was due to something else).
My therapist says a lot of my back and leg muscles are pretty tight, so right now I'm trying to roll everything out twice a day. We'll see if that helps. But unfortunately I don't think it's a lack of strength in those muscles that's causing the issue, as deadlifts were also a regular part of my gym routine.
Noumenon72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's possible to deadlift using only your quads and spinal erectors if you do it wrong. The muscles I needed to learn to use were weird hip ones like the piriformis and gluteus medius, normally your body recruits those as needed but I had to have the pain as a tutor to show me I wasn't using them.
Before figuring this out I just avoided the issue by always using my computer lying down flat on the floor.
osqer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which part of lower back? Does this mean bicycles are super bad since there is minimized weight on upper body and legs and it's all focused on your back? A cushion underneath makes the weight acceptable right?
StreichersHQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to all the Romanian deadlifts my gym makes me do.
Aleski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I clarified in a post further below. I meant spine, not lower back. Obviously you have to build the muscles there some way.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Aleski ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:45:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh oops, let me rephrase that.
"Anything that puts strain on your spine is going to be bad for you.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:47:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Aleski ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:51:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can lift weights without putting strain on your spine.
Firecracker500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain? This really sounds counterintuitive.
Aleski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not an expert, but posture matters. Basically, you want your muscles doing the work, nothing else. That's why you're always told not to round your back when picking things up off the floor.
Um, I'm kinda bad at explaining this, there are others who would do better than myself.
cheesyqueso ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on form. They way you lift something heavy will strain different parts of your body. You don't want to strain your lower back because of the problems it can cause, e.g. slipped discs, chronic pain, etc.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:47:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They've been telling us that sit-ups are bad at least since I was a kid, so 20+ years. I don't think that's going to change any time soon.
What has changed is the recommended replacement. When I was a kid, they told us to do crunches instead. Now the conventional wisdom seems to be heading in the direction of planks being a superior core exercise.
klethra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sincerely doubt it. The reason they're considered bad is because you can get a herniated disc, and the movement is almost useless compared to the alternatives. It's highly unlikely that hitting yourself in the hand with a hammer will be the next fad even though it's frowned on now.
Sasamus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another problem with both sit-ups and planks are that they can not be progressed without weights and/or simply doing them for longer.
None of which are optimal. Weights are cumbersome if not using a vest and doing them for longer will mostly just train endurance, if you want to get stronger that will plateau fairly quickly.
L-sits and it's progressions are usually recommended and those progressions will last a lot longer until weights will be needed.
Pandaburn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good call, L sits are tough!
almaperdida ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:25:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is being curled up unnatural? Isn't that the instinctual fetal position?
ANAL_McDICK_RAPE ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:33:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but you're not using you're muscles when you are in that position.
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 19:41:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Anal McDick Rape
PlaydoughMonster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:35:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/usernames
MrCheeseypants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? How?
Aleski ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:34:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not straining yourself in the fetal position. You're putting strain on your back during a sit up, though.
Donuil23 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:43:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess if you're a fetus then, do as many situps as possible.
nietczhse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about crunches?
sosern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.acefitness.org/getfit/studies/BestWorstAbExercises.pdf
10 exercises better than crunches, and you won't have to have second thoughts about "am I ruining my back right now?"
Pandaburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't say for sure, or explain why, but the fitness community seems to be kinda down on crunches as well. At least the kind you do lying on your back. But cable crunches (where you kneel and hold a cable machine's handle behind your neck and crunch downward) are kinda in vogue.
Really, if you want to do some general fitness things with a focus on core strength, I'd say do Yoga.
cultured_banana_slug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was told that if you must do sit-ups, grab your ears. It'll keep you from yanking on your neck while putting your arms in the generic "sit-up" position.
MuffinMan12347 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personally I use a sit up bench so you're not curled up in such an unnatural position. Worked wonders for me after regular use!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:11:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently crunches are better than sit-ups though, since you can focus more on bringing your legs to your chest rather than bringing your body up to your knees. Less movement on the back and all that. There are other workouts that hit the core and don't involve the back much though.
sosern ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:15:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.acefitness.org/getfit/studies/BestWorstAbExercises.pdf
EnginerdAlert ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:35:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you didn't see /r/Fitness yesterday. This thread was one of the top posts regarding this subject.
Meekrobite ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:46:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You would be correct, I don't visit that sub.
africadog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:21:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you train your abs in to one range of motion and can hurt your back
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 19:09:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whichever, point is just do something. But to be fair I have actually heard the same and your recco is probably gonna save at least one begginers lower back
modernbenoni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Situps have some reasonably damning downsides.
https://www.t-nation.com/training/21st-century-core-training
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:23:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SmackEh ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:25:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anything that curves the spine is generally considered bad. So no, not okay
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently planks are best....read somewhere that it's replaced crunches in the military fitness tests.
They feel waaay to easy to me in comparison though, but I'm not the expert
Das_Mojo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:45:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you find them easy then try doing them with one leg raised until that gets easy. Then one leg and the opposite arm and so on.
Kep0a ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:30:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then just stop using legs and your arms altogether, thus floating
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:45:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:53:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the stabilizer muscles building! That's awesome man!! You're literally seeing the work happen
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:04:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between progress pain and injury pain. I'm not there nor an expert so it would be irresponsible to just say "work through it".... If you have the $ maybe get one session with a personal trainer to work through form or a Pilates or yoga class could help and Groupon I practically giving those away.
Also www.bodybuilding.com is the most amazing free resource I've ever seen for any endeavour.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like stabilizers building ....stick through it and actually try this:
Do a plank...aim for 45 seconds and time approx how long you shook for before it subsided or stopped.
Now keep at it for a week and then time the shaking again, if you push and stick to this I'm SURE you'll see a reduction.
Pls do try and I'd love to read the result!/feel free to even inbox it.
I believe in you, bro bro
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out the site I linked and look into some beginner routines. Be very very very sure to stretch (beginners and experts alike miss this) and be sure to focus on diet and drink water too.
No better feeling than waking up stronger. I promise you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm post injury myself and plan on getting back into it too - if you ever wanna bounce progress or frustrations off someone, friend me here and we can do that.
Kill it bruh!!!
OrangeSpartan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should do once the stabilizer muscles develop
ReaganxSmash ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as it's not painful it is probably OK.
The shaking can be a couple of things. First, it's possible you have weak stabilizer muscles and they are literally shaking under the weight (which is good, since they are being worked hard, thus getting stronger). Second, it could be a CNS response to the workout. I've been consistently benchpressing for a while now but I still get shaking whenever I do it, even on not very heavy weight. It's just your CNS responding to the load on your body. (Why it happens, I'm not sure...maybe the shaking somehow balances the load on your muscles or something, but now we're venturing into broscience territory). Supposedly if it is the CNS issue, it will go away after a while but I have not yet found this to be true.
secondlogin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have back problems (like me), lay on your back, bend your knees so your feet are flat on the floor and push up on your feet and raise your butt. It works your abs, front of thighs and butt without hurting your back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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secondlogin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My physical therapy post-surgery. ;)
This is one of the exercises that I did to strengthen my core to support my back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sit-ups might not be great, but doing something is better than nothing
solzhen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a puss snd join a yoga group. Great for core, posture, back, joints, everything. All needed to add for total fitness is some cardio and a little strength training.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:27:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yoga and Pilates should be an intro, if not regular part of excersice routine
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well just go do body weight squats and heavy deadlift.
Dorocche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now what are those?
tvp61196 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are situps bad?
buckyddd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
leg lifts and situps with straight legs work your hip flexors more than your abs. Most people already have tight hip flexors from sitting for hours which results in anterior pelvic tilt and your lower back shifting forward (your belly protrudes forward). Doing those exercises makes this problem worse.
Griitt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are sit ups bad?
Natem0613 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care to elaborate? I like sit-ups
camdoodlebop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are leg lifts?
MarkReefer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since when are situps bad?!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sit-ups are still better than sit downs
RainbowFire22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you explain with a little more detail please?
CommanderCuntPunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's bad about sit-ups?
CJBarbowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i see someone has been on r/fitness this week...
aredditgroupthinker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a teen I could do 1000 sit-ups in a row in an attempt to get skinny. Didn't help much and probably hurt my back.
alextoria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eli5?
Cheeseman1478 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain why sit-ups are bad?
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Situps hurt my tailbone quite a lot.
ExtraSmooth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a right and wrong way to do sit ups. The right way is really more of a crunch (I pretty much think of both as equivalent). Either way, leg lifts are better. However, I find I can never actually get a workout from planks; it takes so long, and my arms tend to get sore just from the pressure. Any advice for that?
TyroneBiggums93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sit ups aren't bad if done properly.
PumpNectar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Says the guy without solid abs
meatduck12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's too bad the Air Force hasn't caught up to things. Have to practice situps or I will flunk the entrance test.
GoldenGust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since when?
Hoobleton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I just switched out sit-ups for leg raises in my little workout routine I do at home. Are they supposed to work the obliques at the top of my legs as well? On my first 40 it seemed like it was all on my core, but the last set of 20 it seemed like my obliques were taking a lot of the strain. Just wondering if anyone can say whether this is normal or whether I was losing my form.
For the record I was following these instructions, and doing them with straight legs.
asylum117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
SirSplodingSpud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Planks and leg lifts are good but sit-ups are more effective, and they're only "bad" when done wrong. That being said decline sit-ups and crunches are a lot more effective, but also harder. Also try Bicycle Crunches, they work all of the frontal abs.
Source: I'm a martial artist.
herpendatderp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are situps bad?
YoungNastymang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are sit-ups bad?
ubspirit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:57:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sit ups are not bad. What a dumb thing to say without even providing any evidence to prove it
workaccount42 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:57:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In 5 years they will tell us they were wrong and planks cause cancer.
And AIDS.
MrCheeseypants ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:14:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's such a general and imprecise statement that it's almost meaningless.
CintasTheRoxtar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:20:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuck off
zeldaisaprude ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just like how white bread and milk suddenly became the devils work right?
Aleski ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:35:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Milk is still fine. White bread has always been unhealthy for you.
RedIsBlackDragon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:18:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might look into the skin care & workout. I knew physical activity was important, but maybe just a little exercise would go further than I assumed. And I work in fast food, so the skin care is probably much needed.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:20:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
r/skincareaddiction is actually a good place to start. They have a beginner routine that changed me personally A LOT.
I then went out more to seek further info and a lot of sources linked back to that subreddit anyway
RedIsBlackDragon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:32:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the tip! But that's all you're giving me, right? Just the tip?
Aleski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooo thanks for the plug. Subscribed :)
bucketofboilingtears ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:28:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For workout, I like to do short, intense workouts. Good if you're busy and don't want to spend much time exercising, but still get great benefits. I just look up HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) online, there's lots of great free videos. Many you can do at home w/o any equipment. Even if you only do 15 minutes (esp if you aren't currently very active), you're going to feel it.
RedIsBlackDragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds perfect! A good quick nighttime routine would be awesome. Thanks!
bucketofboilingtears ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love it. I recently started that because moved to a small town w/ lame gyms. I never used to be a fan of working out at home. But, I've really gotten into it lately. I did invest in a few sets of hand weights (lighter weights are good for HIIT). And, a kettle ball. But, usually I'll google something like "20 minute HIIT no equipment" and find good stuff. I'll PM you a couple of my favorites. It's good to mix it up w/ different routines. I get bored really easily, so something like this is perfect for me. I don't know people can run on a treadmill for 20+ minutes. My husband does that. But, whatever exercise you enjoy is the best exercise for you.
FirstTimeLast ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:42:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
upvote for the "giggity"
Bombastically ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you're a cheap date.
FirstTimeLast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I sure am :)
hcollins91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
giggity.
NameLastname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
giggity
Now give me an upvote.
Afrood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your goal is to fix your posture, 2-5 minute stretches once in a while is fucking magic. Lots of good stretches out there depending on your problem.
Sylvester_Scott ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nawlij. And point to your head whenever you say it, then people will think you smort.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my face Reddit comments ever
Sped21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've learned over the last few years that nobody gives a shit what you have to say, just what they do. Learning how to keep yourself and the other person active in a conversation is an artform.
PositiveAlcoholTaxis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For abs try leg raises. Lie on the floor (or bed or yoga mat if you have one) and raise your legs as close to 90ยฐ as you can. Slowly. Too hard? Bend leg at knee. Too easy? Find something to hang off (pull up bar, tree branch, really tall and strong guys arm) and perform the same exercise, albeit rotated 90ยฐ.
tramalaka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is definitely the best advice to turn your life around 180ยฐ real quick if you don't do any of these things already.
realjefftaylor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
felesroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a single bar of non-branded soap and I don't own any moisturizer. It's like we live at two ends of a spectrum.
malphasia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In case you weren't aware, they're quoting American Psycho.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read the book too
almaperdida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want to get back into reading but I can't, for the life of me, find anything that can hold my attention for more than a few minutes.
The last book I read was less than 300 pages. That was probably 4 years ago now.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Audio books are a good entry back to knowledge, podcasts, YouTube's - reading isn't the sole bearer of info anymore.
That or there's great graphic novels or easy but great read authors like Elmore Leonard
CatDeeleysLeftNipple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Short stories collections.
I've recently been going through some old Sci-Fi and have started on a lot of short stories by Robert A. Heinlein.
somephotographs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any particular recommendations?
feo_ZA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: giggity
Tinfoilpain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a side note: have cool interests
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any interest can be cool. One of my most memorable "new" interests was sparked when a redditor commented about energy efficiency.
Motherfucking energy efficiency was written about in such a cool, interesting way that it pulled me in.
Tinfoilpain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No no, you misunderstood, I meant like fridges and snowcones.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Energy efficient fridges?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do I do this without sounding like a cocky prick?
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Conversations are like golf: it's all in the approach.
That and "the right time and the right audience makes it hard to say the wrong thing" - Adolf Hitler (not really though, but my point is that with those things in focus its hard to be a "prick")
thegoblingamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
21, was on accutane, skin is still bad. Washing my face causes my skin to peel badly (even with moisturizer). So break outs or facial rashes. Hard to choose
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had an ex that did accutane - that stuff wreaks havoc on your skin for sure....plain water wash?
Have you seen a derm about moisturizer options or skin care options?
thegoblingamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yepyep. Plain water wash = dry skin. Even with moisturizer that I got from my derm. My skins just the worst thing ever.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmmm, maybe a dietician could help in some way...if I ever come across any info I'll inbox you what I find
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sit-ups destroy your back and only doing push-ups without an opposite movement will give you serious imbalance.
Sierra11755 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should it be 100 sit ups, push up, and squats a day?
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out the post that lives here about "no zero days". It doesn't matter as long as it's at least 1
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know 24 year old men who cant even do 10 push ups. I didn't even know that was a thing...
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh. There's people who can't do one.
But know what? I respect the guy that falls on the ground after two more than the guy who won't get on the ground to try
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. Most men severely underrate the effects of proper skincare. I started a few months ago, went beyond twice a day washing my face and putting lotion, and my skin hasn't been as nice; dark circles are way paler, no more random acne (if I do, it is only one).
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simply moisturizing in the AM gets rid of that 'gray, dull' look most people's skin has that they don't even notice.
It's crazy how many men don't take skincare seriously... Like guys; we have hair sprout from there that either sits and collects grub, grime and shedding skin cells OR we spend a portion of our time dragging razors and clippers across it -- we NEED that tlc on our skin
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never knew about that sub, I'll check it.
I do slightly disagree with the x-challenges thing though; yes, it's useless if you start and end there but the thing that got me into the gym to begin with was a "300" challenge I had at work -- whoever could plank for 300 seconds won.
I won. But to be fair I did change positions at least twice (one arm up, next arm up, leg up, side, etc) stayed in plank though
NeverEndingRadDude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus if your face moisturizer has an SPF value to it. It will make your skin look younger longer.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sunscreen is vital! I have a complexion that doesn't necessarily receive or show too much sun damage so I don't use it (and thus didn't list it) but this is so key.
Great call.
HoldMyWater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people with a posture problem are arching forward. Only doing pushups and situps will disproportionately develop your front muscles, exasperating the problem.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm starting to realize I should've listed all exercises known, because this (valid) point is coming up a lot
HoldMyWater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to do all known exercises to have a balanced physique.
butwhatsmyname ยท 5863 points ยท Posted at 17:33:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a complainer.
I don't mean "pretend everything is fine all the time" but don't let yourself engage in - or especially start - that low-level bitching that so quickly becomes a habit. Try and find something positive to say if you're struggling to make conversation, and if you can't then express your opinion plainly. Don't talk about being annoyed by something, talk about being disappointed. Don't be the person who is always tearing stuff down.
I cannot tell you how unattractive it is when somebody around you whines or is negative a lot, and once someone notices you're doing it, they can't un-notice. Also people will stop wanting to be open and honest about how they feel about something around you in case you're negative about it.
If all you have in common with someone is a love of putting stuff down and complaining about things then one day in the future you'll realise that the only thing left you haven't yet complained about in detail is each other and then the real unhappiness will start.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 2084 points ยท Posted at 19:15:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't criticize or complain is the first piece of advice from How to Win Friends and Influence People
It is amazing advice!
-Rixi ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 19:49:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this book. It really works wonders.
uriman ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 20:59:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, but the advice seemed a lot of wishy-washy back patting. Seems to go in line with Buffet and Trump saying everyone who works for them is "doing a great job" yada yada yada.
SlipperySherpa ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 21:23:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it depends if you really agree with what the book is saying. If you just use the things they say to do because you desire the final result, you're essentially just going through the motions.
What the book is saying, is to be a person who is genuinely interested in people, be positive etc and people will naturally be drawn to you. Do it for yourself, don't do it just to make people like you
Be a person that can't not be liked, don't try to make people like you
TheBeardOfMoses ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:39:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think the guy above missed the point of the book. It's about taking a genuine interest in people and their concerns, not faking a genuine interest in peopleand their concerns
nifty_mick ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:23:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I second that.
It's easily overlooked at how powerful it is to be genuinely interested and curious about people. Every person is a hub of experience and attained knowledge since the day they were born. They'll genuinely have different perspectives, have varied hobbies and interests and also concerns.
If you can know one or two things in whatever area is current in their minds and/or lives from each person you meet - you'll benefit yourself from taking that piece of wisdom in a matter of seconds from someone who has lived it.
RandomGuy928 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:11:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anybody realize how ridiculous it is to suggest becoming more genuine about something? Steps to becoming a better person:
"Advice"
equationsofmotion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:12:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds simplistic but it is also literally the only way to accomplish anything.
If you want something in life, work hard to become somebody who deserves it. You may still not get the thing, because life is super unfair. But you'll have much better chances.
Beside_Arch_Stanton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It helps to be simple. Yay everything....
Alldaymono ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:32:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Strong this.
Just be someone positive and someone that likes listening to people and is interested in them
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:21:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TheseMenArePrawns ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:47:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's part of it. But in general it's also a big list of advice for how to present oneself.....in 1936. You can cherry pick some good stuff from it. But in general I think anyone actually following it today would be pretty offputting.
Cianalas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:26:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seconding this. I had a friend who I happened to know was reading this book and everyone around him was painfully aware of it when he kept trying use it's advice in the real world. He just came off super manipulative and awkward. Its still worth reading but with quite a few grains of salt.
noreallyimthepope ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:58:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people read a book and it becomes gospel to them for a period. That's not the book, that's the person.
Vleda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you want to make people go away? I think I'm a dick and I'm generally pretty blunt but it seems to make people want to open up to me for some reason. Stupid humans, ogre want less talking and more doing things. Things with the stuff. Stuff good~.
SlipperySherpa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because people who are blunt tend to be honest. It is easier to trust someone who says things the way they are than to believe someone who constantly sugar coats things
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then maybe they shouldn't title the book How to Win Friends and Influence People.
SlipperySherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you read it? Or are you just judging a book 100% by it's title?
notstephanie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I hear this book mentioned, I think about how this is the book that Charles Manson studied in prison and helped him become such a master manipulator.
I'M NOT SAYING THIS BOOK WILL TURN YOU INTO CHARLES MANSON. I'm just saying the two are forever connected in my mind so the book creeps me out a little.
EvilLinux ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:05:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People love wishy washy back patting. That's why they can't deal with complaints and see it as being negative.
CrakAndJaxter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually just got this book. Do you really think it's worth a read?
I actually used to be an extremely positive person when I was younger, but I find myself becoming more cynical in my thoughts everyday, which genuinely frightens me.
-Rixi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I highly recommend it. This book was a life changer for me. I was very negative and disliked people when I was younger, mainly because I couldn't understand why they didn't enjoy my company (Yes, it was a vicious cycle). After reading the book, I made more friends than I ever thought I could. I love being with people now. Many of the principles are explained through lengthy anecdotes, but you can just read the main topics if you decide not to read the entire book (it would still be beneficial).
Edit: I forgot to mention that this book has made my life a happier one. I hope it will dispel any pessimism in yours too!
Mandalor1an ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:25:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha I literally thought of this as soon as I read your parent comment.
I've read a chapter of that book every day for the past year and I will for the rest of my life, you'll never not need to reread a chapter in that book if only to help remind you why you're doing those things as principle in the first place.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:45:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might not go as heavy handed as you, but I definitely plan to keep it around to look over again and again.
Mandalor1an ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:47:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I truly believe people could benefit from picking this book up and reading a chapter every day, then when the book is done start over again. It never won't be relevant to your life and what you have going on.
But thats just me.
ItsJustMeJerk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:01:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'll give that a try, but knowing me I'll probably do it inconsistently and then forget about it after a week.
Mandalor1an ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
15 days makes a habit, I already read every day and the chapters so are short so I'll stick it in front of whatever I'm reading and knock it out first.
14irahtom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reading the book right now.. He actually tells you to keep the book around and reread chapters every now and then in the introduction.
SickMyDuckItches ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't work for me...
mi_esposa_me_espia ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:27:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish my dad would read and heed this book, sadly unless it was written centuries ago and about Jesus, he's not interested.
Right now he's going through a rough patch after my mom left him. Now all he does is bitch, complain, and be a giant ball of negativity. He then gets upset and wonders why nobody wants to be around him or answer his calls.
detmoose ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:39:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Call him back! Even if he's set in his ways and only complains, he needs some positive influence in his life. Plus getting a call from his kid would make his day I'm sure.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once I finish this copy, I'm buying a new copy. I'll then pass this one to my Dad because lately he's been quite sour.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you're in luck. The Bible says plenty about not complaining.
http://www.openbible.info/topics/complaining
Honestly, it's one of the first lessons I remember learning in Sunday School.
stunt_penguin ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:33:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I audit my Facebook to try and work out if I am being too negative- I usually do okayish, with the occasional monthly explosion like when I get ripped off by the bank (โฌ100 in fees, whaaa?).
OTOH, when I look for someone to collaborate with on a film I get scared off by repeated bitchy vaguebooking about people who offended them in the tiniest of ways... I do NOT want to be the director being bitched about in a few weeks because the food on set was cold or something.
rahyveshachr ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:03:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looking back at FB's version of timehop has shown me just how petty, annoying, compliment-fishing, and vaguebooking I was as a young adult. I don't know exactly when a change happened but I know it was influenced by reading comments on sites like Sixbillionsecrets that shouted some common sense and critique into the whiniest of posts.
Cheese-Its_Christ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not trying to be judgmental, but why even air that publicly on Facebook?
Yeah, it really sucks. But if any of my friends had that happen to them, I'm not sure I'd really care beyond "oh, well that's no good".
stunt_penguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just publicly venting, really, and actually I did get some good advice on who to contact. I did say I was trying to police that stuff, too :)
OtherSideOfThe_Coin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As well as don't condemn.
dunnzack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:59:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reading that book currently. Potentially the best book I have read.
zoosejk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, just bought this book!
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:37:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who read that book and became a total piece of shit. I call it how to deceive friends and manipulate people.
SlipperySherpa ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 21:24:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bad news. The person was already a piece of shit.
FrostyD7 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:44:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He probably read the book with different intentions. It was probably less about being a better person and more about manipulation.
point_of_you ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 21:09:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think everyone has a manipulative friend who thinks he's a genius for having read this book haha.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:39:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously you can use influence to manipulate people, but I think the book just lets you know how to be a nice and genuine person that people naturally like. At that point it's up to the reader to decide how they want to use that knowledge.
point_of_you ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe. I agree, some people need this.
Maybe it's the title that gives people the wrong notion, but I've seen people internalize the absolute wrong message from it.
dontw0rray ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Currently reading the book now and I definitely don't see it as manipulative. It's more about being more self aware of your own habits and actions and developing better ones for the people around you.
point_of_you ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Completely agree - to me the principle of common courtesy is the biggest benefit people could gain from it.
[deleted] ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 21:20:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Bothan_Spy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:07:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I got from this:
"Talk less, smile more."
Aaron Burr was right all along.
UmarAlKhattab ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I already do those stuff at least most of them, and I'm not bragging, but people should realize this over-time. My weak point is remembering people's name. At the same time, I like when people are themselves, hopefully people don't be out of their element or uncomfortable when following these guidelines.
rmphys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know for a lot of people (myself included) some of these are not the way we are naturally. The most simple example is smiling. I will smile if something is funny or fun, but otherwise my generic face is closer to a frown (not quite a bitchy resting face though). I honestly feel extremely self-conscious smiling at people. Although I do a few of the others naturally.
UmarAlKhattab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I realize that but some of the most fundamental points can be taken naturally or from moral points of your culture,religion, parents and school.
I have bad teeth and since 4th grade I had a half tooth till my age of 20, and still I can't stop smiling sometimes, I always smile with people.
TitaniumBranium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After that list I realized two things:
1) A guy at work is that list to the definition.
2) I need to read this book. I'll be going to the library today.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:52:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that was the original book title but they changed it so it sells better.
Semi_Rational ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:41:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a very uninformed thing to say about the book. If you could sum it up in one sentence it would be: "Here's how a nice person behaves, try to be like this." It's basically a Jedi's diplomacy guidebook, not a manipulation manifesto like the 48 laws.
noreallyimthepope ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:56:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a joke. He made a funny.
Semi_Rational ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:57:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Missed the tone of the text. It's clearly a joke since obviously that wasn't the title, but it still implies, not jokingly, that the book has something negative about it.
Seriously, if anyone here thinks "Win Friends" is about manipulation, read only the chapters in "48 Laws of Power", I guarantee that you'll puke. Actually, here's a link: http://home.earthlink.net/~denmartin/flp.html
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing goes over your head.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:42:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's book about a way to improve oneself not manipulate others. I have loads of other books with instructions on how to use psychological triggers to manipulate people. So far this one is nothing like them. It's unfortunate about your "friend".
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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praisebetothedeepone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:32:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Influence the psychology of persuasion by Robert B Cialdini. It's a national best seller with psychological triggers your friend can play with. Read it yourself so you can be aware of those triggers within yourself.
I can't recommend the rest as I haven't completed them yet, but I have a small stack of social engineering books and my goal for my next read is The Crowd by Gustov Le Bon.
TheBeardOfMoses ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:40:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then your friend did not understand the book at all
papajohn56 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then your friend didn't take the advice correctly
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:16:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read the first few chapters, but I was borrowing it from my boss at a job I ended up quitting so I gave it back. Really wish I had finished it.
It's really not about manipulating people, at least from what I gleaned in the short time I read it. It's basically just social and conversational cues that make you more approachable. Stuff that engages other people in conversation. People are naturally drawn to you when you genuinely value what they have to say. Now, this is where assholes can manipulate that to only make it appear as such, but that's definitely not what the book teaches.
The book is basically just like, don't be an asshole. Actually listen to the shit people are saying to you.
sludj5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it Charles Manson? He literally used that book to manipulate people (or so he claims).
sludj5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it Charles Manson? He literally used that book to manipulate people (or so he claims).
Gin4NY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or condemn
Sultan_of_Sass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I would agree with this only partially. I suppose it depends on what conversations you have with your friends. If you never criticize or complain about anything I'd imagine people would assume that you may be boring because you don't have opinions about anything. But then again I haven't read the book so forgive me if it's addressed later on. I am assuming the book is talking about complaining and criticisms rather than debates.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It tells stories about historical figures like President Lincoln, and quotes. Then it explains the difference. I tried condencing a chapter in to a couple sentences. You should check with your local library, and see if you can find a copy to look over. It'll be easier to understand than trying to get me to rephrase everything.
Bluffz2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That book is amazing. I have 2 more chapters left, but there's a 100% chance I'll do a re-read.
thatgirl____ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've influenced me, AND won my friendship!
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I love new friends.
chronographer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
justifiedbonafide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay, someone else who has read that book! :D changed my life
PM_me_yr_dog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:30:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A coworker and I read this together, and while learning that first rule, whenever we caught each other complaining, we would listen and then simply say "what are you going to do about it?"
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really enjoy that response.
Nighthawk321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:26:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love that book.
324635746 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does someone get better if you don't criticize their behavior? That's like telling an artist that his painting is "nice" or "I like it".
praisebetothedeepone ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:07:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you like it, what is nice about it? My instructor taught us the BPURE concept with art. Balance, proportion, unity, rhythm and emphasis; if you like some art try pointing out exactly what you liked.
Positive reinforcement apparently has longer lasting effects than that of negative reinforcement. As the positive aspects you point out will be preserved, and added to over time. While anything negative you say will be resented, and discarded after you leave.
At least that's the idea.
Edit: Paragraph format.
bstix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The book is called "How to win friends and influence" not "How to make constructive criticism".
It's not about anyone getting better.
Btw I really like your username.
stufff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Anyone who would do this is useless to me. I had a paralegal for a while who would make a game out of relentlessly and publicly criticizing any grammar or punctuation errors he found in documents I drafted. Kept me on my game and years after I left that firm I'm still friends with him. My engineer friends are always suggesting better ways to do things.
People who can't take our won't give criticism can fuck right off while the rest of us get shit done.
324635746 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People who don't give criticism are "panderers". These are people that hate to have a contrary opinion.
RiPont ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the pieces of advice in that book is "people like hearing their own names."
Well, let's remember to adjust that for today's multi-cultural workplace. People do not like hearing their own names horribly butchered.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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RiPont ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing wrong about asking, but there are some syllables in other language you literally can't hear and can't pronounce unless you've had quite a lot of exposure.
If someone's name is spelled "Xkt'ntra" and they ask you to call them "Jim", it means they want you to call them "Jim" and not butcher their real name.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once corrected a teacher (politely) when she was talking attendance, and she just said "I don't care"
:(
Note: My last name is Irish, it's not that farfetched.
Z0idberg_MD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you know?
praisebetothedeepone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very little, like next to nothing in all honesty. Despite college I don't feel very knowledgeable about much. In fact all my learning has seemed to do is point out how little I truly know.
Z0idberg_MD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was trying to complain and criticize you, but you disarmed me.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. You'll get me next time. Edit: removed failed smiley.
Your_Negro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're comment is shallow and pedantic.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shallow like the empty bath tub, and I don't know what pedantic means off the top of my head.
Charliek4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that by the hereinmygarage guy?
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dale Carnegie.
pak9rabid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about that book. After reading a bit of The 7 Habbits of Highly Effective People, it really makes How to Win Friends and Influence People look like a cheat sheet of how to trick people into liking you. If you haven't read 7 Habbits already, I'd recommend it. It focuses more on being a good person rather than just looking like one externally, although I could do without the religious parts.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So far I haven't picked up on only external presentation, and I thought this was intended for self improvement. I'll be sure to check out 7 habits though. I'm curious now.
CosmicComedian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except if you're a comedian.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Comedians aren't attractive.
AscendingSnowOwl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good marketing there, Dale.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I'm a total shill.
Emberblade2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This book works best when paired with Carnegie's later book, How to Stop Worrying and Start Living.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will look into that as well then.
ifonlythiswasnothot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started reading the book and it's amazing. I really get the idea and I don't see any doubt in that. Execution is what difficult for me. I'm that type of person who is paranoid about something, for example I have dissertation topic which is going no where and I'm about to fail at it horribly. So until and unless I finish it the anxiety will not leave me and I end up complaining in front my friends and families.
Elessar20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:18 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That book must be the worst kind of bullshit one ever wrote.
praisebetothedeepone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:51:06 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess you'll have to read it so you can test your idea.
cancutgunswithmind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that book and fuck you!!!!
Edit: I'm sorry
screenwriterjohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: Charles Manson was also a fan!
praisebetothedeepone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't study Manson much, thanks for teaching me something new.
wallofeden ยท 1215 points ยท Posted at 19:13:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HO-LY-SHIT THIS. I unfortunately had to learn this lesson the hard way.
I was doing this exchange with this one chick in Europe. She had that weird way of bonding with someone over how awful things were. At a restaurant: "This is ridiculous, the service here is awful." At a bakery: "These pastries are terrible." And she would expect the other person to nod their head in agreement and be like "omg totally we deserve better" and they would get this mutual satisfaction over it.
I made it a point to always counter her negativism with over the top positivity. Since then, that concept has transcended beyond this one person into my everyday life since then (and it's been ~5 years). Honestly, nothing is more unattractive than being a negative person, and you would be surprised how much people like being around positive people.
deltarefund ยท 625 points ยท Posted at 20:50:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm terribly negative and not surprisingly I hate people that are always positive.
:/
Trying to do better.
IsThatWhatSheSaidTho ยท 436 points ยท Posted at 22:32:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Tryin to make a change :-\
Edit: a nose Tryin to make a change :-\
squishybloo ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 23:08:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You got it wrong! Tryin to make a change :-\
Bubbaluke ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:17:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are you guys talking about Tryin to make a change :-\
SergentBubbles ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:14:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're trying to make a change Tryin' to make a change : - \
TheTweets ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 23:47:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well what can I say, none of you succeeded.
Perhaps changing some capitalisation would help you make a change?
daneguy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:03:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoosh
TheTweets ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Figured it'd be something like this.
BinaryWinter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:08:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a signature on your texts?
alderaancruiser17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah lol
Tryin to make a change :-\
ForceGauge ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:25:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
5/7 meme
plipyplop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
:-\
โ Got your nose.
: \
Treppenwitz_shitz ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 21:14:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's so irritating!!! I feel like super positive people are really fake. Otherwise they'd just admit already that life is misery. flips emo bangs
[deleted] ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 21:26:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:01:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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DarkPhenomenon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:26:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I, too, get a sparkle in my eye when the flames of destruction spread...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you were a motard boot? You were That Guy?
turqoisevagina ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:58:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
by no means did I have fun, or even like the Marine Corps. I have zero decals on my car or tattoos and bought a Toyota corolla in full after three years as a lance. I just wasn't part of the crowd that griped about all the shit all the time. I was the crew that got hammered with his buddies on weekends and spent most of my free time working out or playing xbox and minding my own shit. When you've been cleaning the laundry room for 5 hours the Corporal walks in for the third time looks around and couldn't find any dust. Then he looks at the broom and says spend an hour cleaning the broom now, there's dust on it. what did you do? freak out, cuss and whine or just shake your head and chuckle after he left about the retarded situation you put yourself in. I'm just the guy who laughs it off and keeps going. Tracks was a bullshit MOS, the friends I had who chose other MOS had a blast. I simply existed for my time. I wish I could go back and choose another one, proud of the Marines, not my job inside of it. Tracks try to act like the toughest motherfuckers around by hazing and treating each other like shit specifically 1833's but really either you scored really shittily on your asvab and were too much of a puss puss to be infantry or scored really high and didn't get armor.
HardHeart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:40 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can you act/be genuinely happy when you feel like shit?
I'm quite an emotional person, so it's kinda hard for me to grasp. I can't avoid my negative emotions, because if I do that too much, I WILL become depressed.
turqoisevagina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:59 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't avoid emotion just embrace them in a positive way, if you're sad go for a run and think about why you're sad, clean your house alone and think about how you ended up feeling pissed or sad an correct your behavior or correct the person who treated you incorrectly. If you're truly depressed because of something tragic seek help if you need it or ride it out. I honestly think being a life long learner helps with that. one time when i was kind of upset so I just figured out how a toilet worked 100% and now I can fix everything in the bathroom with a trip to home depot. I felt good because I accomplished something and have a skill. renovation up to dry wall are really interesting to me and kind of a hobby, I volunteer too, that can help a lot. doing something for someone else who's really happy that you're there and wants to talk to you is good. When they say people who are dicks are tiny people I imagine them like tiny people with little grappling hooks trying to bring me down and it's kind of hilarious to think about. deal with your feelings when you need to just do it in a way where you come out having either learned something about the world or yourself.
HardHeart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:18 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is super helpful, thank you :)
turqoisevagina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:00 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you're welcome hopefully it helps you out!
Kaden3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:38:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference though between being super positive and not being an asshole, they aren't strictly tied together. Like, generally, I'm not a super positive person, I enjoy dark humor, and I'd say my outlook on life is closer to being pragmatic than being optimistic. On the other hand, I can deal with people who are optimistic and positive, and I have several friends that are like that. The annoying part is when it gets to an extreme, and they aren't even necessarily being fake. Sometimes it just gets annoying to deal with someone who never seems to express a negative outlook.
marsepic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really care to be bubbly and positive, but I do make a point to be kind and say something nice. People get addicted to criticizing, they think they're the goddamn Batman of whatever and can't turn it off.
Placenta_Polenta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not the only one...
Chuffnell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. Overly happy people are just as bad as complainers I think. There is a word for it where I live. Klรคmkรคck. I don't know what the translation that is overly happy/excited/positive in a very forced way.
RAA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then there's people that take "fake it till you become it" and embody it completely. Positivity enhances everyone's outer experience, and tends to assist one's inner turmoil too.
Skinnecott ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, but complaints have thier place in society; they can facilitate change every once in awhile. If your waiter is being a shitty waiter maybe they aren't aware of it. I'd say most complaints are just a complainers way to make a wrongdoer(or others, if it's gossip) aware of the wrongdoings.
jay212127 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:32:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of positive people myself tend to do a few things, - if we like something we say so, if we don't we either a) say nothing or b)try to rationalize why or how it didn't go as plan, and if possible try to spin the options. B is usually the stickler but as a personal example - Went camping and was getting completely rained out, I told myself i should've looked at the weather forecast more closely, and created a nice fire in a nearby cookhouse to play cards and drinking games, our negative friend complained for 6 hours before coming with an excuse to leave. I probably sounded like a fake super positive person to them, but for me I was making the best of the situation.
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jay212127 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And those people tend to be negative people. everyone rants, but some don't know how to do nothing else - There is a bit of running joke of asking how bad this one person's day is, I honestly think her happiest was an 'i'm okay ....' . I just nod my head (what they want) and, when i can, remove myself from their [usually] toxic environment.
heyreech ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:27:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
on some level I 100% agree with this. But on the same note, when I do force myself to be positive it's easier to see the good things in this world and life seems a bit less miserable.
PeperAndSoltIt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've known a few fake-nice people who do it to maintain a public image. If you were to just chat with them however, they might start gossipping or something.
I do give benefit of the doubt though, as everyone has sides. To be perfectly happy all the time and shut out everything negative isn't healthy.
Worthyness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:02:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always just opted for positive attitude because being negative about a situation just makes the people around you not so happy either. Plus it wasn't fun being negative all the time. Went through that in middle school and I absolutely hated almost everything in middle school. Didn't get out of that funk until the end of high achool, which was too late for me. College was a lot better as I got new geoupanof n people to hang out with.
deltarefund ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:36:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes!! They always seem fake!! Not so much because I think life is soooo terrible (it's not), but that they can't possibly like EVERYTHING.
asdvffslvja ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:42:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to like everything to not criticize things. You can just choose not to talk about the things you don't like, and only focus on the things you're positive about.
deltarefund ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:10:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, and I know a few people like that and they are great to be around. But then there are the "fake" people I'm talking about who some how LOVE EVERYTHING!! They love your ugly shirt and the mangy dog. Rather than just not mentioning the shirt or the dog.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It feels good when others share your likes or dislikes
karayna ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. I've had false, backstabbing friends who suddenly turned into the most positive, happy and friendly people in the world... they're so sweet that they make sugar melt. And my spider sense is tingling... no, burning... I don't trust them at all, because even their voices seem so fake when you know how they used to be. Yet they make new friends all the time...
PeperAndSoltIt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:39:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they changed? Seems like you're continuing to be negative.
karayna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone would think this. :) But no, I've gone from a rough period in my life when I indeed was negative, to having a way better outlook on everything (still trying to improve myself every day). The people I'm talking about are almost creepy in the way they act and "sell themselves". I do know genuinely positive people, and they're a lot more "natural" in their body language, speech pattern and wording. You know it when you see it! :)
jlking3 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:36:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When your life experiences don't give you many positive experiences to work with, you become negative.
You end up withdrawing because things are so awful and you know you bring people down and lose friends.
It would be nice to have consistent positive experiences that could then be used to counter the negative, but those are usually too expensive, or the people that could help make that happen aren't interested in doing that.
When I've tried to "Fake it til I make it" it doesnt seem to work because i know i'm lying to myself. It's like this: telling myself I got an A on a paper when I failed it doesn't help me feel better about the grade, nor does it turn that F into an A.
So now I'm in a position that whatever I say or do always seems to turn out to be the wrong thing or the wrong time or the wrong place or to/with the wrong person. And if I choose to do nothing, that's wrong too.
It's very hard to start to be positive when every objective criteria is pulling you down. And when the best thing you can come up with to boost yourself for the day is that you took a shower without crying, that's not really helpful as a foundation.
I've disappointed myself and everyone around me and I continue to do so. I accept that it is completely my fault and every bad thing that happens around me is because of poor judgement on my part or mistakes made that cannot be forgiven or undone. For example: when the soda machine takes my money, there was something I must have done to make it fail. When my car breaks down, it was because I wasn't driving it properly or I didn't have a certain procedure done at a certain time by a certain mechanic. When I am rejected online, it is because i didn't choose to lose weight in my 30s or waited too long in my teens to get treated for acne.
I must be perfect at all times to even have a chance for people to accept me--any mistake I make will be considered a dealbreaker, whether at work, or socially, and since I cannot be perfect and I will always make mistakes I have to accept that I will not be accepted.
Everything I do ends up hurting myself or hurting someone else. So it's better for me not to do anything at all. And of course, that's bad, too, but since I accept that everything I do is bad, it's a matter of trying to find the action that hurts others the least. Which usually means choosing the action that hurts me personally the most.
It's been this way for at least 35 years. One day it will be over and i will be at peace. until then, i try to numb the hurt inside and try not to show it too much.
ladylurkedalot ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:44:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, so if you're not talking to a health professional about depression/dysthymia and getting treatment, you need to be. I'm absolutely serious. You don't have to suffer like that.
You might find this reddit comment about cognitive distortions to be insightful.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3z79yl/redditors_how_do_you_shake_yourselves_out_of_it/cyjtfbo
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Screw the Bullshit feel good shit, just know only you can take the initiative. That initiative is just waiting for your go response. Also check your vitamin levels and any sign of inflammation in the body
johndoe555 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:09:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Individual brain chemistry/biology certainly plays a significant role in baseline happiness levels. However, I find it hard to believe you (or most people, for that matter) have maximized your biological potential.
This, for example, is evidence of a less than ideal internal monologue:
This just can't be objectively true... interpersonal relationships and human nature don't work like that. A first step toward self-improvement might be to at least qualify it (i.e. "almost perfect most of the time for some people" rather than "I must be perfect at all times").
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:24:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Second and the last sentences talk to me on a higher level. I completely relate to your text. Some day, it will all be ok
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes the bad shit that happens to you couldn't have been prevented in any way and it's not your fault. It just happened.
Life isn't fair.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:43:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't you just run away from your current country and start fresh in a new one, like mexico or another country where they don't speak english? Get a job there and work your way up. It's a complete reset.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:43:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't you just run away from your current country and start fresh in a new one, like mexico or another country where they don't speak english? Get a job there and work your way up. It's a complete reset.
Soup_Kitchen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:46:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think a lot of it is simply learning to not nitpick, and to mask being negative in prettier language.
First, if something is generally good, avoid commenting on how it could be better unless prompted. Let's pretend you just saw a movie that you felt was worth the $15 bucks you spent to get in. Avoid pointing out how in that one scene there was a guy wearing a pair of Nike's made in 2014 when it was supposed to be 1998. It's annoying if you do it too much. Focus first on what was good about the movie, and then the little nitpick is more of a cool observation than the constant downer.
Second, if the movie was NOT worth the money, say so using pretty words. Don't use absolutes. Instead of saying that movie sucked or I thought that movie was terrible, say that you didn't enjoy it, or that you thought it wasn't well made. You're saying the same thing either way, but one uses negative words like suck and terrible and the other use positive words like enjoy and well made. It makes a difference in the way people perceive what you say. Putting a not in front of a positive word also makes it easier to agree with you, which people want to do anyway, by making it a more neutral statement. If you say it wasn't well made, I don't have to think it was BAD, just not GREAT.
This stuff won't make you a positive person, but it will make your negativity less irritating to people who are annoyed by it. Positive people aren't really always positive either; it's often just a trick to stay happy. If I don't like the food at a restaurant, I may comment that the service is good or the decor is nice. I won't pretend that the food is good, it's not, it tastes like shit, but I will try to find things I DO like so that I don't get into a funk, which is something I'm inclined to do.
deltarefund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is good advice! I'm going to try it.
gheissenberger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between other people being positive versus assholes trying to silver lining you. Those guys are jerks. I.e You: I'm sad my dog just died. Asshole: Well I'm sure they are better off now they were probably in a lot of pain.
Feel free to hate those people its not you its them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean "People who are always positive aren't your thing" right? :)
deltarefund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that's exactly what I meant to say.
HEBushido ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm negative about a lot of things, the problem is that I'm not actually mad or anything, people just misinterpret it. It honestly sucks because few people can relate. I don't want to sound like an arrogant prick, but I would seriously rather just call like I see it instead of essentially lying.
deltarefund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can identify with this. I'm not sullen and angry or mad or anything, I just have opinions that I apparently like to share. I'm very critical of everything (myself included) and I think that's what it is.
-del2phi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:47:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you can do it! I used to be a very negative person, which grew out of a sarcastic and caustic sense of humor. I started to dislike who I was becoming and was slowly able to recalibrate my perception and outlook to be more positive. Life is only as much as you make of it, so make it a good one.
Wolf_Craft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was you, it takes years and heavy motivation to change your outlook and your attitude. I began the change, managed to bag a partner who sees the best in everything and have been improving myself from there. Not for his sake, but his influence has helped. You just have to really focus on what kind of person you want to be. Then be brutally honest with yourself about whether or not you're living up to that. And don't give up on yourself. Everyday is a second chance.
snoharm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a boss threaten to fire me once because I was too positive.
I'm not even that upbeat a person, she was just such a negative whiner that I felt constantly compelled to point out how fucking fine we actually were.
greg9683 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It'll take a lot of proactivity, but try and remove a negative item every once in a while. So at the beginning it would be limiting it from your normal amount. I think that would work. Then it'll become a lot easier and require less thinking.
mxndx420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tryna make a change :/
ilikefruitydrinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well. I'm not overly positive. But if I like your shirt I tell you
legitpandas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tryin to make a change :-\
non_random_person ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. When I come across someone like that it makes me think, are you insincere or just stupid? I don't trust people like that usually. Though, it depends, some relentlessly positive folks rub me the right way too, but more generally they're just full of shit.
The doesn't mean I'm constantly shitting on things, in all thing moderation amiright?
irving47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shift your hatred to those that deserve it... Like politicians and the writers of press releases. Examine the bullshit buzzwords and let the hate course through you... Then say something nice about my awesome glasses.
deltarefund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love what you've done with your hair.
emptied_cache_oops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
try to actively empathize. sympathy is useless. empathy is the most important human emotion.
ztpurcell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that ironically positive?
ayaPapaya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Balance is good.
Taminella_Grinderfal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think a big part of breaking that habit is to not speak the first thought that comes into your head. I have a friend that brags "oh I have no filter haha" no that just means you are an inconsiderate bitch. I am a big believer of listen more than you talk. This helps me take a moment and try to see the other persons point of view and find something good in it even if I don't agree with them. Example - "omg I love this song!" I could say "ugh country music sucks" or instead "oh I've never heard this song". Sometimes it is work, but getting dragged down into the negative all the time is exhausting.
Two_Oceans_Eleven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no try. There is only do or do not.
twwwy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lemme file that under: Not convinced.
laxation1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start by not hating people that are positive :P
milkgonewild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start with: Trying to do better :)
genericguysname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work for a motivational speaker, yes, constantly being and acting positive can be very annoying. It just feels unnatural that a person can look up all the time.
Elessar20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People that are always positive just don't know better yet.
deltarefund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. My favorite "a pessimist is an optimist with experience".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genuinely don't know how to handle it when I literally hate my life and feel sick all the time. I know I've become a complainer, but my life is full time being physically sick and in pain and severely depressed. I don't like my own company either but I literally have nothing in my life to talk about because I'm too sick to do anything :( I don't know what to do. Suggestions welcome as long as they're not 'try this new hobby/do more things' I literally can't.
clon3man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I know how you feel. It's very demotivating to hear people excited about a bunch of activities when you know they are not a good fit for your life, at least "not yet". Your entourage sees this argument as "excuses" - they simply don't understand what it means to be unwilling to partake in high-energy, high-involvement activities, or even simple ones.
It's easy for this to become a spiral because whatever reasons you have to not want to go out and do shit, is often accompanied to other problems, financial, health, relationship etc. (when it rains it pours)
My best advice is "other people" often have no understanding of your suffering, even if they say they do. And they are quick to point out obvious, long-term, objective problems you have, and somehow tie that in to a present, subjective situation about you not wanting to do something. They say something like "well since you're not working , what else could you possibly have to do? C'mon man you gotta do something!". It's very difficult to brush these people away because they (a) often have better things going for them, (we look up to them) and (b) they make valid points about some, (but not all) of your problems.
You have to remain strong and not give in to activity/outing/hobby suggestions/ that you know have a low chance of bringing you any value. Just because you've made mistakes and you're in a rut doesn't give anyone the right to force you to "do something fun".
As for advice: Make a plan for how you want to fix your problems (including identifying problems you've decided not fix). Write that shit down. Track your progress. As soon as you feel like shit, or you feel as though you need a reason to dismiss someone's advice about how to live your life, refer to your plan and your progress. If someone's comment makes you feel like shit, channel that into working on YOUR PLAN that you know make sense, not THEIR PLAN. If someone makes a comment about my clothes, I'll use that energy to do more exercise, not buy better clothes. It's their insults, but it's my game.
As someone who uses complaining as a means to find solutions (I'll bitch about something quickly and probe for suggestions) I get mildly infuriated when someone complains about my complaining. Hey asswipe, I'm here at this venue to learn something and find solutions and motivation, not hear about how GREAT something is for hours on end. Someone who dismisses brief complaining isn't a positive person, they are an entitled , self-interested asshole. Just watch them later in the night on make the most obnoxious face at something and quickly push for a change of subject. But hey, they aren't negative! They never complain!
Tru-Queer ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 20:12:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a coworker for a number of years who was the most unpleasant woman to work with in my experience. She'd always talk about how horny she was, and how she bet she could make me cum with her "amazing" blow job skills even though I'm gay. She was always grumpy about something, and I quickly learned that if you were on her shit list, you didn't get off it, so I made sure I was pleasant with her. She got a different job and after a few months wondered why she hadn't heard from me at all after she quit. I told her she mistook my friendliness for being friends, and instantly she just starts insulting me and I'm like, "And this is why I haven't talked to you in months." And I blocked her number. Don't need that kind of negativity in my life any longer.
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:51:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love this
Mint_Berry_Cruuunch ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 20:45:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not getting sexually harrassed in the workplace is probably a pleasant change as well.
Tru-Queer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:31:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, it's fast food service, shit gets said.
UmarAlKhattab ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:51:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How the fuck is she allowed to say that to your face? Just because you are gay doesn't mean you shouldn't stand up for yourself. Imagine if it was man saying to a woman? Not trying to start a "whataboutism" but you get my point, I would at least complain to a manager or supervisor.
5arawr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:04:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the advice said not to be a complainer, silly.
/s
sensuallyprimitive ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come on, it's the internet. Don't /s. Let people be weirdly over reactive!
codeninja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would have told her that I'd let her blow me just so she'd stop bitching for ten minutes.
Envy121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of those things sounds like a bigger problem than being negative.
AgenderCaterpie ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:17:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maaaan, I have a super positive attitude by my nature, but I've been struggling with depression lately and it's less than optimal haha.
Mikey1ee7 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:06:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who lives in England, we bond over moaning.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shite weather aint it?
angrydude42 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:43:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My only problem with this is positivity can turn cultish, at least in the workplace. I get sick of people telling me I'm "negative" when I point out all the issues at work - with the intention of fixing them. I've since learned "negative" just really means "calling me out on my shit work" and is a means to put those who actually do useful shit down. Nevermind the number of times my "negative feedback" would have saved hundreds of thousands of dollars and a customer outage, or the number of times my critical thinking saved us from the same fate... Just because I can spot problems does not make me negative, it's how you deal with them.
Like everything it goes both ways. Something approaching neutral is best. But for us folks that ignore the good because it's already good, and focus on the bad so we can improve it - we get shit on a lot no matter how "positive" you spin negative things - yet we are by far the largest force for positive change within any given group.
asdvffslvja ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:45:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you probably have a communication issue here. Or perhaps you need to mix in some positive so you're not only pointing out the negatives. I point out things that are wrong at work all the time, and it's never been a bit of an issue. We fix it and move on, even if it's me that ends up doing the work to fix it. Of course, I also build up the same people when they do things right, so it's not just all knocking them down.
CeilingWax ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:07:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was much younger I used to bond with people in this way (by finding a mutual dislike of something) but I have since changed my tune. Perhaps I can provide some sort of insight in the glass-is-half-empty thought process at the time. Maybe my experience might be reflective of others who think in that way.
At the time it felt like one could bond more authentically with people who have shared some sort of mutual pain; that'd be our common link. Growing up as a surly teen the mutual dislike of school was the bridge to others who shared a similar angsty mindset. As a young man working a shitty retail job I bonded with the other angry clerks when we were mistreated by upper corporate management. Dealt a bad hand? I feel you brother! That isn't to say that it was my default state of mind; I don't think I was an insufferable bastard who was always a negative nelly. But sharing that mutual pain or injustice with others felt like the default means of experiencing something real genuine with someone else. Pain is not something that a person would fake. Pain felt really real.
In time I guess I got tired of being angry. Got older and experienced love. Sharing joy with friends. My world became less dark. I bond with people primarily on mutual interests now and things that bring joy. Life feels less heavy without that negativity. But I also understand those who try to connect through negativity because I had been there before.
samuswashere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think a lot of people go through this phase in their teenage years. I know I did. I think part of it is just a way of dealing with getting to a point where you feel old enough to start having control over your life, but you still don't get to make your own decisions. So, we just criticized everything around us to make ourselves feel smarter and more mature than we actually were.
Alldaymono ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:35:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might be this guy :(
If I don't like something what should I say then? If the food is actually terrible or the service sucks?
GWHistoryBot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:58:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's nothing wrong with complaining about bad service or food, it's the diction and delivery that matters.
As an example, compare: "Fuck this piece of horseshit restaurant! I've had more edible crap drop out my ass than what they serve here! And that waitress? Does she even see me waving at her? Not to mention her attitude, ugh" /snarl
to
"Dude I'm really let down by the service today. I thought this would be a good place because the reviews were mostly positive but this meat is overcooked and bland plus the waitress seems to be having an off day. Want to go somewhere else?"
raptormeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Some suggestions!!!
1) Does it? Does it really suck, or are you just looking for an outlet for your bad mood?
2) Consider whether you need to say anything at all. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". Obviously that's dumb advice to take universally, but some people need to hear it. Often negativity is more about wallowing or attention-seeking than solving a problem.
3) On occasions where criticism is warranted, that doesn't always mean a bad attitude is warranted. Just like you can "disagree without being disagreeable", it's possible to critical without being abrasive. Look for the constructive side.
I feel like people who are negative don't always want to realize that being negative is a selfish psychological release. We're not solving the world's problems - we just have emotions we feel a need to share. It's a lot like taking a massive dump: I get that you may need to do it every once in a while - everyone does and it feels good - but that doesn't mean that people want be there when it happens. It's about balancing your emotions with respect for the emotions of others.
Alldaymono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks I think you out it best In a way I could understand it.
Do you have any suggestions on being more considerate/empathetic? Seems like you have ir down
raptormeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about that, haha. I actually think a lot of this sort of thing is genetic - doesn't mean it can't be learned but I doubt I can give meaningful advice.
I guess in general I'm just a proponent of taking oneself and one's emotions less seriously, and taking other people more seriously. Like, trying to actively care less about what you are thinking and feeling, and actively care more about what other people are doing. I dunno, it's so easy to think that the entire Universe takes place in our own heads, I guess it just takes active effort to try and quiet that and focus on other people. Try to not give a shit whether things go well or go bad. Try to enjoy pain moments for the silver lining that comes with them. It's like any other discipline. Exercise is hard too, but the more you do it the more natural it feels.
Then again, I've been accused of not being in touch with my own emotions, so there's that.
Anyway good luck!
I knew that poop analogy was a winner! ;)
JonasPolskyAMA ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:09:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Geez, what a crummy comment, and a terrible post. And boy, this website is no prize either.
Haleljacob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The idea of a group of people where one is being overly negative about anything and then someone else starts acting mockingly positive about everything but in a seemingly sincere way is just hilarious to me
OmnipresentTexas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I'm talking to this girl, she would be perfect except it's always down right the harshest, most negative things come out of her mouth. "Oh this steak isn't rare", "oh he's the best, nothing anyone else does matters", "oh she's ugly", "oh I'm ugly". I try to tell her at least be positive. At least say something nice first. At least don't talk shit about what I like. Unfortunately she is hot and I want to be tap that all day and night. Cannot even converse with her anymore.
raptormeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be strong! She's probably has such a shitty personality cause no one ever calls her out on her bullshit in the first place. Maybe if you stand your ground and give her the business she'll respect you more.
OmnipresentTexas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:37 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god thank you for just the smallest insight. I think you're right. She is extremely firm in her beliefs. But I also know she surrounds herself with what one might call "hardass" dudes. All her friends are guys and she commonly refers to herself as a whore because she cares nothing for feelings because "they make people weak". I don't want her to think I'm some flimsy liberal treehugger guy. But feel free to keep talking :) I'd really love to hear about women.
raptormeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:19 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha oh man I don't know that I can help but.....
Sounds like a pretty sad person to be honest. My advice is to just stop worrying about what she might think about you altogether. If you're a liberal treehugger, or whatever, just do you without apologies. Don't be afraid to have an opinion she or anyone else doesn't like, or push back against bullshit (but always in a jovial way, not as a lecturing douche who needs everyone to feel the same way they do). Don't defer to her or her hardass friends. People enjoy interesting characters, who have a backbone, and they hate snivelers who fake a personality to ingratiate themselves to others. And there's no need to take her "I'm a whore / feelings don't matter" stuff seriously - those are the words of someone who has been hurt / is scared and is throwing up a wall around themselves. Ignore that stuff and try to connect with the real person underneath.
Honestly I have no idea if that will help, but as Miyamoto once said: "Cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them it doesn't always go so well." :P
Keep in mind that I'm just a random idiot on the internet and not like a love guru or anything.
OmnipresentTexas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:24 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always said that random advice and insight is what helps me best. I have intuition but no practicality in some areas. So treating her like I would anyone else and speaking to the sad person in her is good advice for me. Thank you sir, I was lost but now I am found in the world of this wild woman. Thanks random internet stranger
OmnipresentTexas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:58 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I'd just reply to this again... I started talking to her like she was not some hardass and used a little of your advice. A couple days later, she tells me she wants to cuddle and that she's sad. God dammit this is why don't hate internet strangers. Thanks
raptormeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:00 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Too funny! Good luck to both of you :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:00 on March 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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OmnipresentTexas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:57 on March 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Things went on for a while, the post patched up some things but she was just too harsh and cold and all she cared about was sex. Which was a surprisingly dirty feeling. Then she moved away and is fucking other dudes and dropping them as well.
Deliziosax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:16:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So are you complaining about people complaining? Gee, stop being so negative! /s
PeperAndSoltIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't mean to be negative, but it's "negativity" not "negativism". An -ism would be pessimism.
1da-kid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not unless your British
spankymuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't you being negative about being negative?
(oh shit, son!)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
she played you into a better life
Muffin_Fetish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, I'm the opposite. My girlfriend is ridiculously, over-the-top positive. And I like that about her, i really do. But when she's giving genuine, heartfelt advice or telling people to be careful, I like to give a counter proposal that usually would end in their death.
"Everything is gonna work itself out. You just have to be patient." She says to a friend in a crisis.
So my immediate response would be "But it's gonna be a long ass time, so you should probably just butt-chug this absinthe to forget your problems."
Even though she and everyone involved knows I'm being 100% sarcastic, the face she gives me will never get old.
Jadzia_Dax_Flame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell me she wasn't French. In my experience, they're the worst about this.
chirodiesel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I refer to it as "bonding over mutual conflict." It is poison and a way I screen those I want to share my life with. Unfortunately only 5-10% of people make the cut. Our society seems to have a taste for building ourselves up by putting others beneath us. I'm pretty sure it's the source of racism.
Kaden3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think being "over the top positive" is much better though. Honestly to me a lot of the time that doesn't really come off as encouraging or happy it just comes off as irritating.
humanorgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, learnt this the hard way, too.
Had a friend who would constantly complain about everything and I would be her wing woman, agreeing with her and chipping in with negative stories about what would annoy me, too. Guess it was a way for us to bond.
It got to a point when she started to then complain about how people in her life dislike her, like her in-laws, her colleagues... even her other friends stopped being friends with her. She kept going on about why she's always the victim, "Why does it always happen to me", etc, it then made me question, "Maybe it's you that's the problem?" So I then started to give her advice that maybe she shouldn't blame everyone for everything bad that happens and that maybe she should start taking responsibility for some of her actions.
She did not like that at all.
She then started leaving passive aggressive statuses on Facebook about how some friends when they're meant to be on her side start to make her feel really stupid.
This shit continued on for months on end, not once did she even attempt to correct her attitude or behaviour. I stopped encouraging her negativity by trying to be positive but she really did not want to hear any of that, she was too happy being miserable. (The ironic thing was was that she kept a blog broadcasting that she was the most positive and happiest person ever to her readers and they should all follow suit).
Had to cut off the toxic friendship after about 2 years of knowing her. The experience really made me re-evaluate my negative self and changed the way I projected myself on to other people.
I'm in no way the most positive person now, but I'd like to think I have grown up from that sort of behaviour, and for her sake I hope she has too.
MotherOfDragonflies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just be careful that you're not swinging to the other extreme. I agree non-stop negativity is draining and unattractive, but every normal person has bad days and sometimes they feel comfortable enough to air those grievances with people around them. It's very human and relatable. However, I knew someone who could not handle that and would make a point to counter everything with something "positive" but more often than not it just came across as smug and passive aggressive because she was doing it as a jab. She prided herself on being this beacon of positivity, but in reality she was petty and conditional.
Complaining sucks, but most people just need a little perspective and a lot of understanding.
TL;DR If you get enjoyment out of taking jabs at "negative" people, you may not be as positive as you think.
KnoBreaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As much as I hate negativity there are studies that show that mutual complaining is a good way of bonding so I understand where this lady was coming from. For example if you and your coworkers hate your boss it will bring you closer to complain together.
ya27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did she react to your counter positivity? I would almost feel hostile or passive aggressive if I countered every "This thing sucks" with "I think that thing is amazing."
neuronalapoptosis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As awful as shit can get, there's always something worth savoring. I never understood dwelling in the shit when you can be riding on a cloud of the silver lining.
anonenome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking neggers..
bookekekek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But... you didn't get laid did you?
browniebrittle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Beautiful!!!
ryanpilot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I second this. I broke up with a girl that was like this. I couldn't stand it. It took a few weeks but it all made sense when I realized that she didn't like Halloween, The Chicago Bears, Cleveland Browns, or the Broncos because she hated the color orange but she claimed that she "loved football" Her least favorite food? Fish. I slowly learned many things she hated but NEVER what she liked. She always focused on the negative. Life is too short for that.
ButterThose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a waitress this happens too often. there are way too may negative people who complain about the littlest things, such as putting down good food for their pleasure.. Or trying to get it for free
Elessar20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, keep telling yourself that bullshit.
packersfan8512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
agree 100%, i know a few people that are so overly negative about everything and i just don't understand it. being negative doesn't help the situation 90% of the time, it actually makes things worse because constantly being negative is not healthy at all.
plus, my mindset when it comes to complaining is that if you can't change it then don't fucking complain about it. obviously this doesn't apply to every situation, but it does apply to most.
dojakitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on exchange with a girl in Europe exactly like that too. On top of the negative comments she would always compare things to how "great it is in America." Everything was shit in Europe compared to America, Americans do things better. WHY DIDN'T YOU FUCKING STAY IN AMERICA THEN???? Deborah James Downer.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Iwillyea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you cut her out? I can't deal with "my friend's" negativity. Lately she has become even more toxic and I need an out but she's part of my social circle which is making it hard to cut ties.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Iwillyea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the advice, I really appreciate it. Btw you're friend sounds very similar to mine.
WookieeWarriorz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:03:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find positive people are usually very fake. I can't stand a person being fake, it really pisses me off, so usually those positive people who really annoying me. Just be honest it's far easier
ImOP_need_nerf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:33:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to add to this that complaining about social issues falls into the same category. Whether you're doing it online or in person, tirades about your perception of injustice in society doesn't make you deeper, smarter or more compassionate than the very people you complain about. It makes you more annoying. In the end you're doing the same thing as the people who aren't as "open minded" as you - namely nothing. Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your actions do. Be the change you want to see, don't just whine about it.
Lister-Cascade ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:12:24 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't say HO-LY-SHIT THIS either.
carrion-crow ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 19:20:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My current boyfriend does all of this all the time that I truly feel there is nothing to his personality aside from complaining and critiquing things. Its bringing me down so much that im on the verge of breaking up with him. Whenever I get a message from him it's more than likely him bitching about how something sucks. He even goes to critique things that I balantly say I enjoy. You know what I have to say about all this negativity? Fuck this.
cracker_salad ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:35:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in the same boat. It's going to have the same outcome. I assume it'll just add to the list of negative things that'll pour out of his mouth the rest of the month, but fortunately, I won't have to be there to hear it.
midnight_waffles ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:42:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a relationship with someone like this. It became quite a bit more toxic once we moved in together. He began criticizing and openly hating everything that made me happy. My friends, my hobbies, my pets...It was a tough breakup because I did love him, but I know it's one of the best decisions I've made for my emotional well-being.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:43:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was that person in most of my relationships. Kind of realizing now how much of an impact it has. If he's fucking up your life with his negativity then you should do what you need to do in order to be happy again. If you're not happy with him then that's really all that matters. And if you're "on the verge" of doing it, you're really just waiting for a "good" reason. But you already have one. He's negative and brings you down.
As I said, I've been that person. I complain a lot and bitch. This little exchange of comments though is really helping me put things into perspective.
At the very least, just tell him that his negative bullshit is ruining your relationship and go from there. You'll have the answers you need once he responds. I know you weren't asking for opinions but I felt that since I've been the negative asshole that drove someone away I would comment on it.
carrion-crow ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:31:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so do you think its worth at least pointing out? like in the sense he doesn't realize how negative he is and just needs somebody to help him realize that?
space253 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:56:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I have been on both sides, he probably has no idea.
Yuri-Girl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've pointed it out in the past. Doesn't work, and it's not my job to stick around and make it work.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:35:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely worth it to point it out if you haven't. Maybe all he needs is the wake up call. My ex pointed it out to me and I didn't see it like I should have. The other issue for me, was that she was quite miserable and negative but complained about my being negative which only made me worse.
Your situation sounds different. If you haven't pointed it out to him and you love him then I would say you should talk to him about it. It's going to need to be a serious talk, but without ultimatums. Don't say "if you don't start being less negative I'm leaving." Make it a positive, which I'm sure you can do from the sounds of it.
I've always been cynical and pessimistic but didn't realize how much it affects those around me. Right up until people at my work started to bitch and complain about everything after I began to learn to shut my trap. Now I see it a lot more since I talk less.
The cynic in me has one last comment though. Don't expect him to change. It's VERY rare that people genuinely change. Something like this is not an easy fix. And it will probably take work from both of you to make it happen. But if you really love him and feel like it's worth it, that's your call. Just don't sit around for ages waiting for him to change after you point it out to him. Be reasonable but don't be a push over.
I think you will handle it well. From your comments you sound like a very down to earth person. You can always PM me if you have any questions. Since I'm a negative fuck I may be able to give slight perspective. Good luck!
DiggerW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is always a yes! It's not a relationship if you can't communicate, and this one's pretty basic. Even if you know you're going to break up with him, consider it practice! In all seriousness, communication -- good and bad -- is key to any healthy relationship.
thisis4reddit ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:08:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I literally just posted a comment about this but I spent 6 years in two relationships with people that complained about the things I enjoyed - going to the gym, making new friends, going out with friends. I stupidly tried to change myself to make them love me but even if you don't change yourself, don't choose a dark cloud. The world is full of ones you can't avoid so don't actively CHOOSE them.
disasteruss ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:57:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you talked to him about it? Many people don't realize they're doing it until you point it out. It's a very easy thing to fix once people are made aware.
carrion-crow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:32:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i dont really want to bother because hes also very stubborn and sensitive. so im worried if i bring it up he'll get super defensive and upset and i sadly don't value the relationship enough to deal with it. i suppose i should at least try and if the conversation goes south just end the relationship.
NoBreadsticks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly sounds like you are in a relationship just to be in a relationship
why_the_fuk_not ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i think you know what you need to do. i've been there and it sucks but deep down you know what you need. you'll thank yourself later. stay strong and you'll be a better person afterward. dont try to talk to him just because you think its the right thing to do. try talking to him only if it feels like the right thing to do.
carrion-crow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks so much ill keep your words in mind :)
disasteruss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's sad to hear that you're in the relationship even though you don't value it. You don't it to owe, but even if you have already decided to move on from the relationship, perhaps you should say something to him so that he might improve in the future. Maybe it goes in one ear and out the other...maybe it changes his life.
PloksGrandpappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say something similar about talking to him about it. If you love him deep down and the only thing holding you back is this attitude then this is definitely something that can be fixed. I was him in my last relationship. My girl ended up cheating on me with several different guys over the course of 4 years, we owned a home together for 2 of them. It destroyed me. She blamed it all on my negativity. Not to make excuses for the way I was, but that's bullshit. We've all got issues. If you're that miserable with someone, you leave them. I was completely unaware of my problem because she never spoke up about it. In my opinion, her way of "handling" it was just as bad as my attitude towards life. Your boyfriend's attitude is a clear indication that there is something wrong, he is unhappy, and possibly depressed. It could be a cry for help. If you think it's worth salvaging, find a way to talk about this without being accusing. Show him this thread.
Throwawayfordaysgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can this be fixed? I've had some terrible things happen and feel myself going down this path. For the sake of my relationship and my health I want to get it under control.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Throwawayfordaysgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's where I'm at now. I noticed how negative I've been and I am going to work hard to change this way of thinking.
space253 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a 3 in 5 rule that states if 3 out of 5 times on average or more there is a negative interaction with you, people will start to notice and stop liking being around you.
Try and keep the negative interactions under 20%.
disasteruss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Acknowledging that you are going down this path is the first step, for sure.
Seeking professional help or finding someone who you feel comfortable with and will talk to you openly about it is the next. If you're in a relationship, try to speak to your SO. Let them know that you're feeling this is an issue and you'd like to work on it. If you can't be that open with your SO, you're probably not in the healthiest of relationships to begin with.
For me, when I found myself going down this path, the first step was to pause and think before you say something negative. "What purpose does this comment have? Is it only to make someone feel bad?", I would think. If I was even unsure, I would try to hold back those words. Or I would try to mix in something positive with every negative thing I said. Balance it out.
I also found someone who I could openly say the negative things with and they would tell me "No, you're overthinking that" or "Ok, I see where you're coming from, but...". It was important to me to be reminded my opinions weren't necessarily any more right or wrong than others'.
Throwawayfordaysgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very sound advice. Thank you for the suggestions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't disagree that you must speak with your SO first, but it's definitely not easy. Maybe easier, but not easy.
disasteruss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Very easy" might not have been the best phrasing. But I think it's not a particularly hard thing to fix for most people. They just don't realize they're doing it until someone calls them out.
rizaroni ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:35:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god. That was so my ex. It seemed that every situation we got in, he had a complaint about it. A complaint about where we lived, what we were eating, who our company was - EVERYTHING was not up to his standards. It was almost as if he felt that every situation was set up solely for his own benefit/enjoyment, so if it wasn't going well, there was hell to pay - and it all fell on me. I was goddamned miserable. Honestly, I don't think people like this really change very easily, so you're probably best getting out as soon as possible.
carrion-crow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea i've considered bringing up to him and maybe trying to convince him to be more positive but he's also a very stubborn and sensitive person. so i'm worried if i mention it he'll just get defensive and upset. plus i don't think its my place to ask somebody to change, even if its for the better.
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dichotomie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ehh, I think it's worth it to at least let him know that his negativity is having such an effect on her and their relationship.
He may honestly think that he's making harmless side commentary and not realize that long term that stuff can really drag on a person.
EnterpriseArchitectA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He may be sensitive about his own feelings but he sounds very insensitive about yours. Toxic people poison everyone around them. From your description, it sounds like everything has to be about him. It also sounds like nothing is good enough to please him, even you. Sorry, but I doubt this will end well.
carrion-crow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no reason to be sorry, i'm enjoying hearing everybody's input. its super helpful. i figure its at least worth a shot to talk to him and if you're right, and he doesn't listen then i can end it right there.
Th3Kingslay3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You will have to mention that, he wont stop unless you make him aware of it. And maybe you'll be all the stronger afterwards. Or he will bitch about you mad about him bitching.... or something like that
carrion-crow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like it's worth the effort then cause he'll bitch about me breaking up with him anyways LOL
Th3Kingslay3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol and for a very, very long time too.
UmarAlKhattab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't break up with him because of this, break up with him because he didn't change to become better. Talk to him and help him change this attitude, if he doesn't then he is a lost cause.
carrion-crow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats a great point ill definitely try talking to him first, thank you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I'm in the same situation with my gf. I don't tell her this, but I always wonder why she always has to be such a downer. It makes for toxic days, and somehow it seems to happen more often on my days off that causes me to enjoy them less. Ugh. But is it worth pointing out or not? I don't know.. I tried once, and I came out feeling like the bad guy, somehow apologizing, and letting it go..
bstix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yo, I heard you like complaining about your boyfriends complaints, so I'm gonna complain to you about the hypocrisy in your complaint.
jazavchar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're just being negative about his negativeness... man
codeninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You deserve better than that negativity cancer. It will eat at your soul.
gordo65 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the big problem. Constant complaining brings everyone down. It's very selfish, because whatever satisfaction you get out of it comes at the expense of everyone else.
AphexLookalike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you do decide to end things, be honest about why. Don't pull the it's-not-you-it's-me thing to ease the blow. Let him know that his negativity is bringing you down and you don't like the person you are with him, or whatever. Even if he is a dick about it, or blows it off, it may have an effect on him and help him get a grip on his sour outlook. Maybe he doesn't realize there's an alternative.
Source: used to be a bit like your boyfriend
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not being negative. But the title 'current boyfriend' makes it seem like he is keeping the seat warm for someone else.
strangelyliteral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do it. If he's so negative he outright disrespects the things you enjoy, in time he'll either drag you down with him or you'll burn out trying to defend your right to not hate everything. Don't let that happen.
daybreakx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is my most hated thing.
But it seems like it is fucking impossible to find positive people, it's depressing.
jugemscloudmc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:51:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should stop complaining about him.
carrion-crow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i love you, i laughed so fucking hard at that
Risley ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:42:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just drop the dead weight, you'll feel so relieved when you don't have to listen to his bitching anymore.
getoutside307 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 18:45:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want to improve on this, seeing other people complain all the time really makes for a toxic atmosphere.
throwaway2358 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:14:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know right? I fucking hate it when people do that, like, I was having a great day filled with pleasant thoughts until these negative fuckers couldn't find anything better to do than annoy me.
wallofeden ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:15:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dem358 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:47:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats the joke...
RambunctiousPotato ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:21:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
throwaway2358 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Umm whoosh?
get_me_another_beer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ex and I were pretty bad with this. We got into the habit of flicking one other in the arm/hand when that person was excessively/unreasonably whiny. Negative reinforcement is great for stuff like that.
nearer_still ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to be that person but... I'm pretty sure you mean positive punishment (aversive consequence [e.g., introduce an unpleasant stimulus to the environment] for a behavior you want to reduce), not negative reinforcement (appetitive consequence [e.g., remove an unpleasant stimulus from the environment] for a behavior you want to increase).
get_me_another_beer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right; this is why I shouldn't Reddit at work. The sad part is I have a degree in Psychology and knew that.
Sw3Et ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just described the internet.
Eder_Cheddar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:16:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People kept complaining about going back to work yesterday.
Don't get me wrong, I was like that last year. But this year I decided to try and ease it with the complaining.
Why start the new year with some shitty habit that does no benefit to anyone?
People like to complain and it becomes normal and you become complacent with someone complaining about it.
Trying to have a fresh perspective is better than feeling upset about it.
muddyrose ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:53:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's such a tiny thing but it makes a world of difference!
I used to absolutely dread going into work, until one day I realized that half of why my job sucked so much was because of my shitty attitude about it.
When you go to work with the mindset "this is the last place I want to be", it's going to suck.
Now I'm back in school and it's even easier to not hate being there because I know it's only for a little while longer!
Eder_Cheddar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:59:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work ALL the time. PT jobs, 2 jobs at the same time. Temp jobs, FT jobs. You name it.
It got to the point where I hated the working life and longed for change.
Well, I ended up losing my job and was unemployed for 8 months.
So here I am wasting my days on the couch watching netflix and playing video games regretting that I ever wished for life away from work.
So now I go to work happier. Not too happy because I don't wanna piss someone off by them thinking "Why is this asshole always so happy, ugh"
But it's nice to know that I am not that guy you see on TV anymore that sits in traffic pissed off half asleep and walks to his desk mad and is upset all day.
muddyrose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's nice living a life without daily seething anger!
A job is still a job, and unless you're one of those rare people who truly love what they do, it's good to be able to show up to your job and not totally hate it. If you can find a way to enjoy it, even just a little, more power to ya!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've found it really helps if you like the people you work with.
Out of the jobs I've done, the only one I didn't like much was my first one, because I didn't like the people I was working with.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man I feel you so much there - I spent about 5-6 months of last year unemployed living off savings. Holy fuck it was horrible, going to gym was basically the main going out thing I did because I paid my membership for the year when I was working.
Having nothing that I had to do or get done each day really plays on your mind after a while.
Eder_Cheddar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:39:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here!
I would wake up and search the job boards for a few hours while watching Netflix.
Head out to the gym for 2 hours or so. Come back home and search the job boards again.
Several days a week. It got really fucked up.
When I lost my job I had co-workers saying things like "You should go to the beach and enjoy the rest of your day"
Well.... after like the 2nd day of realizing there is absolutely nothing to do in life as an unemployed person, that whole 'Freedom' becomes pointless.
I think when I was feeling fine I would actually go to the park and read a magazine under s tree. The park was empty minus some kids and parents and was a nice change, but you can't live off of 'nice empty parks' all your life.
The last Friday before I started my job I took a tallboy to the beach in the late afternoon.
Sometimes we need to go through trials and tribulations to appreciate how far along life has taken you.
I guess that was the wake up I needed to realize that the grass isn't greener on the other side.
juel1979 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. My kid was super excited to get back to school - see her friends, enjoy her routine, and she loves her teachers. My ten year old niece tried SO HARD to suck my kiddo into complaining about going back. I got my first "I want to stay home" today when getting my kid out of bed. Just had to remind her that was more of my niece talking than her, since she loves school.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:27:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I have worked on this for years. At one point someone told me that all I do is complain and I didn't even realize it. Then when I took notice I realized how fucking annoying it is to be around someone who complains all the time. I've made a huge effort over the years to not complain a lot even in front of my fiancee. It means I have to bottle a lot up, but I let it out in other ways like intense exercise.
Annonymouse10 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:29:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm I do this... but I only noticed it a few months back. I hate it when other people do it but it's actually very hard to stop. You get in the habit of making conversation BY complaining about something, and your opinion on anything becomes why you don't like it, rather than why you do.
So got any tips? I guess being aware of it is a step but something else is needed!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:45:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The irony of your comment, and everyone else in this thread, is that you are all complaining about complainers. The hypocrisy is palpable.
butwhatsmyname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I made the comment because it's something I myself used to do a lot. I stopped by working on my filter. If I was in conversation then I'd just pay a lot of attention to what I was going to say. I realised that I did the negative thing most when I was feeling a bit nervous or self-conscious. There was probably a period when I didn't talk as much as I used to while I got into the habit of cutting off the kneejerk negative comments. But one I'd gotten the hang of recognising it I could start working out how to adapt what I was saying into something positive. "That album was so bad" became "Oh I loved their next album so much".
So I guess be aware of it. Take notice of when and why you do it. Don't expect to change all at once, accept that it takes time and be patient with yourself. Enjoy the small victories and stick with it. Good luck :)
ButtFucksRUs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make something your positive topic for the day. Before you fall asleep the night before or the morning of, depending on your personality of course, think of something you want to talk about. Then when someone approaches you and asks how you've been or what's going on you can say "Oh I had this great burger this weekend. It was from Joe's Burgers. Have you ever been there? No? Well let me tell you about it!" or "I'm pretty good. I actually watched this awesome documentary about the Caribbean and it is so beautiful there. I had no idea!" Chances are, people will be able to relate to most positive things in a positive manner. And after so many days or weeks of picking a topic to talk about it will start to become more second nature. It helps if you're smiling and enthusiastic about the topic. It will get the other person excited too and you guys can feed off each other's positivity.
caffeine_lights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this too, and it's like my automatic reaction is to only notice what's wrong rather than noticing what I like. It's so automatic that I can't interrupt it and I usually don't even notice when I'm doing it except when it's too late. I've been able to notice it sometimes when I do it to my husband or my kid because I can see their face fall and I'm like, shit, I've been an arse again, and I follow it up immediately with something genuinely positive but it's too late and it sounds fake. I need to work on it. I guess that noticing as soon as I do it is a start? I've just realised I did it this morning, though. Husband spent hours setting up mine and the family computer with parts he'd researched and upgraded and all I said was "Oh damn, but that old card worked better with my old game, can you swap it back?" ARGH. Such an asshole move. I need to make it up to him.
dolphinback ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:41:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother does this all the time, I do not find him attractive.
sakurashinken ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:08:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dale Carnegie's principles of dealing with people:
1) Do not criticise, condemn or complain 2) Give honest and sincere appreciation 3) Make the other person feel important, and do so sincerely
Angry__Spaniard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:14:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This hits home. Thanks, I needed to read this.
I keep doing this myself, but I really feel like I need to stop. I've always being a negative person, but it's not something that I like from myself.
butwhatsmyname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was the same. It took me a while, but I wanted my relationships to be different and it was worth the work. It can be done, I promise.
Angry__Spaniard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it sounds stupid, but how did you contained yourself? It's what I find hard. I talk before thinking, maybe complain about something or whatever. However afterwards I think it through and I'm like "that was a good time to keep my mouth shut".
butwhatsmyname ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It takes time and practice. You start by just paying attention to the way you talk to people without trying to change it, so that you have a clear idea of how it goes when you get into a negative place. Then you start to notice what makes that happen. Then you start to realise that it's about to happen. Then you start to experiment with taking control of that situation.
Learning to deliberately take control of what you're doing is a skill that you can apply to so many things in your life and it is what ultimately will properly make a difference to how you do shit. But it takes time and it takes practice.
But over time you start to see yourself becoming someone that you yourself would like to spend time with, and it's an amazing feeling. And it can totally happen for you.
Angry__Spaniard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks a lot. I'll do my best.
butwhatsmyname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish you so much luck. May the road of life take you somewhere excellent.
Brotest_The_Hero ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:52:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so true, thank you for bringing it to light. I hate being around negative people when you're just trying to enjoy yourself and keep a good mood going. I'd rather be alone than with someone constantly bringing everything down.
JohnnyOnslaught ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:09:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is huge and it is/was a particularly big problem in my family. My mom complained constantly so my sister and I learned it. Complaining about your latest health problem or your shit job is a great way to drive people away. If you don't have anything nice to say...
Deliziosax ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:18:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh GOD people who always complain about their latest health problems... ARE THE BEST (trying not to complain)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my mom is exactly the same. She loves to say awful things about strangers she sees at the grocery store, whoever she's currently dating, her coworkers, her siblings, and everyone and everything else. It's exhausting and a major mood killer. I don't like spending a lot of time with her because of it.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone with a chronic disease... fuck you, quite frankly. I'm gonna complain about my health problems because they dominate my life every day. Healthy people are so fucking insensitive to people with chronic pain and sickness. You try being in pain every day of your life and see how positive you can be. Getting all that stuff out there, talking about it, helps me deal with it. I'm sorry my 'negativity' is annoying to you./s
battleporridge ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:22:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say the exact opposite. There's nothing more entertaining than hearing someone say "fuck this shit" with amazing eloquence.
I would also not hesitate to be open with those people. If they tear me down for it, I know that's just their style, and don't take it very personally.
ShitiestOfTreeFrogs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a gas station and I extremely dislike several of our regulars because they don't know how to small talk without complaining. There is one guy that no one even asks how he's doing because he'll be there for 4 minutes telling us all of his problems.
AFlyingGerman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really wish I could point this out to one of my closest friends. :/
butwhatsmyname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Print it. Post it to them. They'll never know. ;)
AFlyingGerman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When your roommates, it's kind of obvious...
disasteruss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially true about complaining about your own life. Self deprecating humor can be good, but if you overdo it, everyone around you just feels awkward. You might not think you're attractive, but you're sure as hell not going to become more attractive by constantly reminding everyone of all of your flaws and issues.
partanimal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think of myself as super positive, but I have had a number of people tell me that they want more people in their life like me because of my positivity.
I don't jump on the bitchfest bandwagon, I notice (and say something) when someone does something good (either their physical appearance, or a good job at work, or they said something interesting), and again, none of these are over-the-top and I'm certainly not walking around skipping and chirping, but it makes other people feel more positive, and they like that feeling.
beer_is_tasty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I do it in a sarcastic way, so it's funny?
butwhatsmyname ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:10:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Sorry.
adam531982 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so true. And I'm on the other side of it. I just had a serious talk with my boyfriend yesterday about how rocky our relationship has gotten lately and his main complaint was that I bitch and moan and see the negative in everything all the time. And I do, he's right. Breaking this habit is going to be the hardest thing I've ever tried to do to save a relationship. It's just second nature for me for so long.
butwhatsmyname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it can be done, and you can do it. Realising that there's something you need to change about yourself to be happier is a step a lot of people never get to. Now go kick ass.
rayswithabang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so fucking true and I had a friendship that ended partially because of this. A few years ago it was so fun to be negative and hate everything together. Then I grew out of that and realized how annoying that is...but she didn't.
KevlarGorilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can recall two occasions where I was on a first dinner date and didn't complain to the staff about legitimate grievances because it would have spoiled the mood.
Ghazgkull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My rule about this is that there's a very big difference between bitching (a time-honored military tradition) and whining. Everyone bitches. It's cold, you're in the rain, you're bored as fuck, whatever. It gives you something to talk about and keep the boredom and cold at bay. But whining is something very different and is never once okay.
the13bangbang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No matter how shitty my last Field Artillery FTX we tricked ourselves by saying "I'm just happy to be here." everytime the times got shitty. Was definitely sarcastic but was enough to make the suck better.
OoLaLana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree whole-heartedly.
One of my most valuable life lessons was learning to play the 'silver lining game'. No matter what happened, I looked for the silver lining. Because it's there. Always. It's just waiting to be found.
Now I default to being positive without even thinking. Life in general is so much more pleasant. And the complainers keep their distance because their negativity never gains traction with me.
Just want to add... I collect quotes and this comes to mind: "Some people find fault like there's a reward for it."
poopdaddy2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work with the queen of low-level bitching. She has nothing positive to say, ever. At a certain point people just stop communicating with her unless it is absolutely necessary because she'll just bring you down.
mutinygriz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment will probably go unnoticed but what you said sort of touches directly on one of my philosophies in life. If you have a problem in your life, its something that can A.) be fixed, or B.) can't be fixed. If it can be fixed (A) then quit feeling bad about it, complaining about it ect. and get off your ass and fix it. Or (B) it can't be fixed, in which case feeling bad about it, complaining or generally getting down it the dumps about it does nothing, cheer up and move forward.
butwhatsmyname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If it's worth bitching about its worth fixing, and if it can't be fixed then bitching isn't going to help".
I'm right there with you.
question_sunshine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've suffered from depression going on 20 years now, mostly untreated because my family doesn't like to talk about unpleasant things and I developed some really unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with it.
Anyhow, I've been reading this book about personality traits people with depression tend to have in common and this one is at the top of the list. It's really hard to force myself to read it because it feels like someone is pointing out all my flaws, and I don't know where my personality stops and depression begins.
The thing that I am coming to realize as I try to fight back against it is, negativity attracts negativity. I have very few friends that I do more than sit around and bitch about things with. It's so ingrained in me I don't know how to begin to turn it off. But I am more aware of it now, so maybe that's the first step.
greatgreta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes ! I briefly dated a guy that was just negative, I don't even remeber any other aspects of his personality. On the first date the questions he asked, repetely, were "What do you hate?" "Who's a singer that you hate?" "What are you ashemed of?". I cut it off before relapsing into depression.
From then on, almost a year, I always make an effort to be more positive. It makes a great difference just to think less negative thoughts, also I never want to be that person. The biggest lesson I learn in 2015.
rahyveshachr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be guilty of this because my mom is like this. It was normal to me. It wasn't until my (future) BIL brought it up to my boyfriend and he brought it up to me that I realized that ALL my small talk was petty complaints. I've been a lot more conscious of what I say now.
chkethley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gratitude is everything! no matter how shitty of a day you have, you can still be grateful for something as small as toothpaste.
HuoXue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even just to appear attractive, but to not appear bitter and spiteful. There's people that I've worked with that, at the first sign of something not going quite the way it should (see: immediately and often), they turn so sour that milk curdles in their presence.
"This job sucks. This is why everyone quits. I can't believe it fucked up again. I can't wait to quit this job."
And it just makes you not want to be around them, in any capacity whatsoever.
I mean, shit dudes, you gotta be here til your shift is done anyway.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the only reason I attract decent people I guess. My friends are kinda bitchy and they wonder why the only guys who ask them out are bros who don't listen. It's because you have done nothing but complain since you met.
gigabyte898 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Occasional bitching is okay. Not like every week, maybe every few months when something really pisses you off. For example, if some fucktard at my work messes up his laptop and then blames me for it, then someone forgets to do the finance sheet at the end of the day, THEN the shelf in the back room breaks spilling now broken electronics everywhere you bet your ass I'm gonna bitch to my friends because I need a release.
its been a long week...
butwhatsmyname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang in there buddy. The fucknuts that we work with will always be fucknuts, but at least we get to go home at the end of the day and know that we can still be cheerful even though brad printed all 400 pages of that spreadsheet again
Grimblewedge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I told my kids the following and they seemed to take it to heart:
You know what you will never, ever hear someone say? "Man, I love whiners! People that whine and complain all the time are the best. It's so much fun to be around someone who is constantly whining about how they didn't get their way or they don't like something. I go out of my way to be friends with whiners." You'll never someone say it, unless they're joking. You'll never hear it because nobody likes whiners.
Winos, on the other hand, who doesn't love a wino?
bleestein ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be on a t-shirt!
eukomos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see you've met my sister in law. People have been known to flee the room when left alone with her.
JedLeland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In a similar vein, don't put yourself down constantly. This doesn't mean you can't have a self-deprecating sense of humor some of the time, and it really doesn't mean be a self-important, preening ass. But I used to try to mask some of my insecurities by constantly making jokes about myself, in part figuring that I'd beat the other guy to the punch, in part to show I have a sense of humor about myself. Trouble with that second part is, do it enough and people will start to see the truth behind the "jokes."
A friend tried to set me up with a friend of hers a few years ago. We had drinks, hit it off, friended each other on Facebook, and kept trying to set up another date, but something always came up, either with me or with her. Thing is, though, the one thing I saw about her status updates was constant self-deprecation. It was worth a grin the first couple times, but pretty soon, it became evident that she had some real baggage and that I didn't want to have to deal with it. It's about three years later, we're still friends on FB, we still like or comment on each other's posts, and I genuinely like her (and think she's damn good looking besides), but she pretty much blew any chance of my trying to take things to the next level.
mfranko88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:32:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has the added benefit of positively affecting your thoughts and feelings long term. If you don't give an outlet to this petty negativity, the thoughts become less common.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I started highschool I quickly became the "eh, I honestly don't care" kind of guy. Really sticks with you if you don't do somthing.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why my ex is my ex.
wellyeahobviously ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Low level bitching.
Finally a term to describe my coworkers.
mistertingleberry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just made me realize why and how my relationship of 4 years fell apart, we both liked how negative we both were and that's where our similarities came from. What an eye opener, great answer !
PC509 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That pisses my wife off to no end. I always have something nice to say about someone. There is always a positive about everyone.
-Replicated ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HOW ABOUT DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO
I think you might have a point
Calvin0433 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I've noticed as I got older is that I start to push those negative people out of my life. If you constantly nag and tell me I can't achieve a goal I have set in my life I will slowly remove you from my life.
PSU02 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel that there still is a need to complain when it ABSOLUTELY NEEDED, but not all of the time.
AllEncompassingThey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is amazing advice.
MrMediocr3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man this is why I've stopped spending time with several of my friends.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap, this! I am known in my family as the negative one because i used to be very negative as an angsty teen. In my 20s my sisters and I went our own ways and didn't see each other too much, so they still view me as the negative person i once was.
This is something i noticed and realized over the holidays as i visited with my family. Now, over a decade later, they (my sibs) perceive negativity from me even when there isn't any there. I'll be the one who is told off for being "negative" even though a) other people are also being negative whether i am or not, and b) i'm being neutral or even positive.
Example: We were watching the start of a football game, and the Nat'l Anthem is sung by a group of guys. My dad and sister both make fun of them (Dad: I'd NEVER pay money to hear these guys sing; Sister: Their name is ____?! That's so stupid!), whereas i said "Well, i think this is way better than the showy style of performance, because these guys are doing a singalong! It shows community and togetherness by having everyone sing the anthem together." Yet i'm the one who was chastised for being "negative", and neither of them were.
TL;DR: I was a negative person as a teen. 10 years later and my siblings still perceive me this way even though i'm not nearly as bad as i was then.
I also have experience with this. My last relationship was as you describe, and we did run out of things to complain about. We turned on each other, and it was a very messy breakup.
I made away with a cool crock pot that she forgot, though!
BloomingTiger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't even put into words how true this is. Its so easy to bitch and act entitled. But are those the types of people you want to be around? Learned this after realising that all of the people whose company I sincerely enjoy are those that are not constantly bitching and seem to genuinely be optimistic people.
Chastain86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped seeing a woman who refused to find the joy in anything in her life. Everything was negative, all the time. Job was terrible, ex-husband was difficult, friends were boring, TV shows weren't as good as they used to be, movies were a waste of time. It was like dating the worst parts of Reddit.
I cut that one loose. I can't function feeling like everything all the time is terrible. Plus I suspected that I'd simply be another disappointment in her already terrible life.
ReadySetBake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I totally agree. I had a roommate who was a really cool guy otherwise, but whenever we'd be in a shitty situation (awful heat at a music fest, party people left our house a mess), he would just bitch, bitch, bitch. It's the last thing anyone wants to hear when we're already in an annoying situation.
mossmoss82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a second date in a run-of-the-mill pub in London, I, as a foreigner, told her how absolutely, maddeningly stupid the separate water taps one can find all over the UK are. She said, "You are so grumpy. But you have a smile on your face at the same time. It's weird. I don't know what to think of it".
It's been over two years we've been together, and in that time she has gotten me two custom made presents with the word "grumps" on it, and I love them both.
I don't know if there's a moral to this story, but if there's one, it's "be yourself".
butwhatsmyname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok, we all think the seperate taps are a hilariously crap idea. :)
muscularbeaver88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hit the lotto
McGondy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope my ex reads this.... Told her for 2 years
veggietrooper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oof. That hit me right where I needed to hear it. Thanks.
butwhatsmyname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang in there - sometimes the best thing that can happen in a day is to truly understand what you want to be different about your life. Good luck, bud.
hunterofthesnark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a woman at work who really wants to be friends with me, but it's kinda sad because it will never happen- she bitches constantly about the customers, especially the kids- knowing perfectly well that I'm a preschool TA at my other job and I love kids.
She might be fun to hang out with if she didn't exude low-level hate at all times.
Loveeebuggg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was literally the best advice I have heard in a long time.
your_moms_a_clone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just like laughing, you should be complaining with people, not at people. Commiserating with fellow coworkers or students? OK! Bitching about how much you hate the newest hit movie? Nope, nope nope.
downtownflipped ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this really resonated with me. i am a debbie downer a lot and my last job really brought it out in me. now i've been trying really hard to complain less and really think about what i'm saying. i'm sure i've burned many bridges unwillingly from this bad habit. i just hope i can stop the burning now.
cocoalrose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I was terrified of my aunt when I was a kid. It was like walking on eggshells so I just learned to not say much to her.
Dr_HQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you need to be able to vent once in a while. Every now and again we just need to get shit off our chest and let out some pent up frustration.
But otherwise I 100% agree with you. When I say once in a while, I really mean once in a while. Like a couple of times a year. Maybe it's my Jewish heritage, once in a while a good kvetch can be therapeutic. But nobody wants to be around someone that's always kvetching, that is totally unattractive, annoying and stressful.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! Nicely said!
zorgon55v ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally my most recent ex-girlfriend.
MillieBee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once gave a friend this advice when they asked why no one wanted to date them.
They spent the next hour complaining about the fact they weren't allowed to complain.
RealJuanDoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally just yesterday realized my one friend is Cancer. Went to an NBA game with him and it was hate and depression from him the entire time there, during, and coming back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I am guilty of this. Im like that guy in boyhood when in his teenage years (at the end of the movie) I need to grow up :(
Recklesslettuce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Britain did not become great with that attitude.
zepp5l1n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All they need is a little love
FerociousOreos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never ask for a lighter load, ask instead for broader shoulders.
CleaningBird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's so true. Eventually all the people who are motivated and driven will put distance between themselves and The Complainer, and all that will be left is a group of malcontents. That group doesn't really impact the world in a positive manner.
awesome_hats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're in France. You need to complain to fit into French culture.
mmo115 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like that
ethang45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I've slowly been learning this lesson the hard way.
Illblood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to stay away from super negative people. It really is contageious.
mwashu66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're really good at complaining. I have a friend who literally bitches at everything. She'd find something at fault in a pile of fluffy kittens. But the way she bitches is hilarious and it's never personal. She bitches about the world, not the individuals in it, which makes hanging out with her a 24/7 comedy routine. She's a lot of fun to be around and we love her for this exact trait.
PM_me_your_LEGO_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The negative person in our department just quit. It's a good thing since he made it very clear how much he hated his job, his clients, our company, and everything else in his life. I snapped at him a few weeks ago after he said he hated three unrelated things and went on to badmouth them in the span of an hour.
We had a party after he left.
hfourm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you do complain, at least have good humor about it.
ManWithYourPlan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may have just changed my life. I have been on a roller coaster with this. There are times when I'm positive, but it seems more often than not I turn the other direction.
I notice it myself, but simply think "man, I should try to be more positive."
Reading this makes me seriously rethink my commitment to being positive.
RalphyMays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This
anonymous_chupacabra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh I have a friend who is a complainer, such a drag to be around. Even if something good has happened he finds a way to complain. Total buzz killington.
Fire_away_Fire_away ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was the basis of my last failed relationship. I am happy to say I am a more positive person and engaged to probably the most genuinely nice woman on the planet.
SaffellBot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, you just described my current life!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that last sentence is wonderful
WildCatWildCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone once told me during a general conversation about hobbies that if the topic doesn't interest him he was not going to waste his time talking about it. Probably the most depressing thing I have ever heard.
goldicecream ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fantastic advice. I started working on this a few years ago, myself. It's a hard habit to break, but I am consistently happier in my daily life.
...and being generally happy always beats being one of those people who hate on everything because they think it's cool.
Sittinginchairs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother (whose only a little older than me, but damn if that man isn't wise for his years) once told me, "having things to complain about doesn't mean you need to be complaining about them. "
It's pretty obvious to me now, but it definitely stuck with me.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, this hit home. Just in the last few weeks I noticed myself slipping into this habit.
AdventureThyme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for this. I have been actively trying to avoid complaining for a while now, and it's hard since I am surrounded by coworker's and family who seem to enjoy complaining.
I definitely fail and end up complaining, too, but I am trying real hard to be an optimistic, approachable person.
Scythe95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With that and good personal hygene you het a long way.
pmartian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something I consciously notice at times is when a group of ppl spend a lot of time gossiping about someone we all know we have a problem with. It's just like "ok...we all know this person sucks...why are we now spending 5...10...30mins just bitching about them?" There's a huge irony in spending your time/thoughts/feelings on someone you profess to not like.
imisstheSCAR10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao, reminds me of a girl I liked in college. I'd say she was a solid 8, at the least, in the looks department, but the more I hung out with her and realized how much of a downer she was, the less and less she looked attractive. I couldn't be around her negativity.
I said hi to her over Facebook this Christmas because I saw that she had moved to NYC for a new job and was quickly reminded of her negativity. It took all of 5 messages before she started complaining about her job. Like damn girl, you're living in NYC, making decent money doing a job in the industry you wanted to work in. Goddamn, grow up, you're not a student anymore, life is about having to adapt and growing up especially means you have to adapt.
jenseits ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Preach. I've noticed one of my friends is one of these Negative Nellies and now I've noticed either that she's relentless or that I've started looking for behavior that reinforces my perception of her. It's a brutal cycle.
InvadedByMoops ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I absolutely cannot be attracted to someone who has more opinions on what they hate than what they actually like. I wouldn't get along with a lot of reddit due to that fact alone.
I get it, you hate Justin Bieber, Kim Kardashian, Rihanna, Apple, Christians, daytime television, reality television, all television, skinny jeans, hipster glasses, uggs, Michael Bay, twilight, Katy Perry, republicans, liberals, feminists, literally everything that you personally don't like. Hell I might even share your dislike in some of those things. But if that's all you ever fucking talk about then shut the fuck up because you're just a writhing ball of negativity hoping someone will join you in your superiority circle jerk.
Lebran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am so with this. I work in a good environment with a group of people who, myself included, earn way way way more money than a lot of people in much better qualified or harder jobs, and ALL HALF OF THEM DO IS MOAN. I really enjoy my job, and when I don't, I realise that I could work elsewhere, earn half the money and still have days where I hate it too.
The amount of times I have to bite my tongue not to yell 'why don't you stop whinging and leave then!?' is ridiculous.
chumothy ยท 5240 points ยท Posted at 14:14:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have interests or hobbies.
LaidbackSam ยท 2305 points ยท Posted at 17:14:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about magnets?
adrenik ยท 1435 points ยท Posted at 17:29:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...making magnets, collecting magnets? ...playing with magnets?
Bacarey ยท 2751 points ยท Posted at 17:56:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just magnets.
mercvt ยท 1068 points ยท Posted at 18:11:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm putting snowboarding down.
InsipidCelebrity ยท 578 points ยท Posted at 18:28:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really snowboard....
[deleted] ยท 499 points ยท Posted at 18:57:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's your favorite food?
InsipidCelebrity ยท 893 points ยท Posted at 19:01:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, milksteak!
ThereIsBearCum ยท 419 points ยท Posted at 19:40:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh? What is that? I'm just putting down steak.
chardonn-yay ยท 572 points ยท Posted at 20:49:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't put steak, put milksteak. She'll know what it means.
VelSparko ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 21:00:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody knows what that means.
I_AM_YOUR_DADDY_AMA ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 00:42:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure it's boiled over hard
Tenaja ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:21:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
milksteak pairs well with a glass of chardonn-yay
Klockmon ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:15:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really, don't put milksteak.
LoadedNuts ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:53:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's provocative.
xmonicleman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, I was just just waiting for this. Thank you, Chad Michael Michaels
nonangryblackguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's provocative
akcruiser ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:44:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok moving on, what are your dislikes?
Kirbyhiller2 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:55:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knees
IllWill651 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:41:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*People's knees
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:46:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cover your knees up if you're gonna be walking around everywhere
IllWill651 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:57:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im a "full-on rapist".
I_FAP_TO_TURKEYS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:21:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No-no, I'm a jani...phi...philant
sudo_fap ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:12:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm convinced that Reddit could produce a script for an entire episode, entirely from memory.
AgentFork ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:15:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They could write the whole show. This and Archer and Rick and Morty.
YallKnowItsOnii-Chan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:00:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arrested Development too. Not AS popularly mentioned here as it used to be, in fact I havent seen mention in months. But its a big site. I'm sure people still talk about it a bit.
Why_The_Fuck_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is this from? Rings a bell.
EinsZweiDreiVeir ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:49:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Always Sunny in Philidelphia
spooniverse ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:33:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the greatest scene from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia!
DNHTNS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dislikes? People's knees.
bchmbear ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buttermilk steak
folderol ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:06:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better put down a side of jelly beans too.
bagboyrebel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:27:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Raw
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happy cake day!
Kayemmgee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure they're raw!
onerockthreefingers ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 19:11:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you've all been covering up your knees...
RabidWalrus ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:51:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Milksteak over hard, with a side of jellybeans... raw, of course
Vindexus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:51:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
alextoria ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:47:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dislikes? peoples knees.
PalpableMoon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought he said "peoples needs"
Sir_T_Baggins ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:04:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a full-on-rapist...
Joba62c ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:34:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Africans, dyslexics, children
Kingsley7zissou ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:44:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if charlie just means chicken fried steak? That man is a goddamn savant.
HawkersBluff22 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:18:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meats cooked in milk are actually a thing, not normally described as milk steak though lol.
Yamswithxtrasyrup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought he meant a block of cheese. Am I the only one?
HawkersBluff22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never thought of it that way. I don't think so though since he uses the word cheese quite often.
Kingsley7zissou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Before that date he say's he eat a block of cheese I think.
Kingsley7zissou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know soaking offal in milk like liver is common but youd discard the milk before cooking.
HawkersBluff22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's one example. Can't vouch for taste though. It's not much different than adding cream to a sauce or something. My mom makes a pretty gnarly looking dish that I call milksteak, tastes good, doesn't look so good.
edit: found mom's milksteak: http://www.food.com/recipe/cube-steaks-baked-in-gravy-286395
Kingsley7zissou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those both look pretty legit.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boiled over hard
iamcoolhandluke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a "steaks and shakes" near me and they do steaks and shakes
deadly_nightshades ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boiled over hard
Nuthinbutbootson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your milksteak brings all the boys to the yard...
Tinfoilpain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about with rice?
Levarien ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:34:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. A side of your best jellybeans.
ThereIsBearCum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Raw
TrullTull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I run in to a lot of hornets in my line of work...
anastasiaromanov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna pop a quick H on this box. This way we all know it's filled with hornets.
TrullTull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hornet scars?! Oh I don't have any medication that would fix that... Yeah that sounds more like a plastic surgery situation, or lasers!
leex0 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:55:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Milksteak: 3/7
Milksteak with rice: 5/7. Perfect.
now we're memeing with the big boys.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
happyhappyjoejoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
5meta7me
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm afraid to ask what that is or google it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Little green ghouls, buddy!
Dadjokeincoming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean milqesteak
grandpa_boner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boiled over hard. With jelly beans, rare.
TheLolmighty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:01:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Milk steak.
Twinstarrider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
with a side of jelly beans.
gotenks1114 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Where did you have this highlighted from when you made this comment?
EDIT: Nevermind, I found it
Grungleeavesham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have Favorites.
EnragedSpoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dollar store steak
xxkoloblicinxx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's standing on a piece of wood while it obeys the laws of gravity. No one's ever gonna call you out on it and its easy enough to fake just being out of practice.
We're putting down snowboarding...
skooba_steev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, what are some of your likes?
cheese007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:45:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a reference. Where is this from?
RabidWalrus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:53:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, S05E05: The Waitress is Getting Married
thebauzzo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:45:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quick link to the scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfWMB-blQS8
cheese007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always Sunny, should have guessed. Thanks!
alendotcom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:14:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put milksteak, she'll know what it means
Pezdrake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nightman.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, she won't!
Put steak.
I'm putting down steak!
DeadProle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is this referencing?! I've heard this but can't I remember where.
Jowitness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fine, but it goes in your closet.
Jon_Ham_Cock ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:39:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you aren't supposed to be a negative Nelly. Stop putting things down and turn that frown upside down! Derp!
adubbz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:05:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ghouls...You know...little green ghouls?
19chevycowboy74 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goblins
ugman77 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how do they work?!?!
elykdn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bitches love magnets
petit_cochon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Son of a bitch. I'm putting snowboarding.
AJam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...bitch
Sadlertime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's always the magnets.
Jokkerb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another bullet point for my resume, sweet.
iamrhinoceros ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how do they work?
EnkiiMuto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how do they work!?
19chevycowboy74 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:15:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goblins
wggn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:49:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wondering how they work?
jsmys ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just magnets...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to know how they work.
btveron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
understanding how they work
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ.
abolish_karma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You knew that oxygen is magnetic.
Right?
SharlanCinaed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a damn near addiction for me.
hybridthm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
more magnets!
Amerikaner83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Swallowing them
cainthefallen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna ask how you make magnets then I thought of electromagnets. All clear!
SubcommanderMarcos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking magnets
punksneverdie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
making magnets,making out with magnets
Tp_for_my_cornholio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eating magnets
quidam08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fried magnets, shrimp magnets, magnet gumbo
Pinkfeatherboa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:55 on February 3, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
TakeYourFun-Phun ยท 515 points ยท Posted at 17:34:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or ghouls?
withrootsabove ยท 407 points ยท Posted at 19:15:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐ผLittle๐๐ผgreen๐๐ผghouls๐๐ผbuddy!
MUFFINCSGO ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And branches below
withrootsabove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate buffering
WAR_T0RN1226 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TDWP references on Reddit?
tylercreatesworlds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put snowboarding
withrootsabove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really snowboard...
Kaden3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Ow I knocked it over with my fuckin' head."
lumberjawsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ good shit buddy goเฑฆิ sHit๐ thats โ some good๐๐shit right๐๐th ๐ ere๐๐๐ rightโthere โโif i doโฦฝaาฏ soโmy sel๏ฝ ๐ฏ i say so ๐ฏ thats what im talking about right there ghouls right there (chorus: ghouls สณแถฆแตสฐแต แตสฐแตสณแต) mMMMMแทะ๐ฏ ๐๐ ๐ะO0ะเฌ ๏ผฏOO๏ผฏOะเฌ เฌ Ooooแตแตแตแตแตแตแตแตแต๐ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ฏ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐๐Good shit
JDandJets00 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:58:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or bashing rats?
iamRYANGOSLINGama ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:16:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Little green ghouls buddy
TELLS_YOU_TO_FUCKOFF ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:12:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
milksteak
coyoterabbit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We found none!
Orchir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Peoples knees?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice work taking care of those ghouls, but another settlement needs our help. I'll mark the location on your map.
WhoShotMrBurns ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:36:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
feral ghouls?
PM_ME_BAKED_ZITI ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 17:20:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's one way to be attractive
Embryonico ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:29:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Way to stay positive
G_Morgan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also repel though.
PM_ME_BAKED_ZITI ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:46:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turn it around.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carefull, a big part of the community don't like pun threads, it's pretty polarizing.
PM_ME_BAKED_ZITI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I'll try to stay positive, thanks for the warning
pacotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and trying to figure out how they work can possibly make for good conversation filler :D
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is inspiring. Someone should write a song about this.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:51:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
PewPewLaserPewPew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gravity
JackSaysHello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, it's been years
DurbelMcDillett ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:42:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or ghouls - little green ghouls buddy
Variability ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is an IASIP reference but no one else has confirmed it.
chewtality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Milksteak with your finest jelly beans, raw.
Tinfoilpain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is really underrated...
DeathDiggerSWE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worked for Jesse.
OhThatMom17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Charlie??
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but how do they work?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work??
Alcoholmademedoit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
magnets, bitch!
mr2forever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand this! I don't understand magnets! This is magnets!
popejiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets, how does those work?
Codoro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A magnet hobby? How does that work?
bobbybouchier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work?
chasingatoms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because magic.
1_am_the_box_ghost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets? How do they work?
dulz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets? How do they work?
TehMadness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work?
gsav55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets you say?
Chappssss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin' magnets, how do they work?
kmrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin' magnets, how do they work?
electriczap4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I for one find magnets extremely attractive.
mike413 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about magnetically crushing coins?
this here is a Hobby (with a capital H)
azman96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a fullonrapist
blue_27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work?!
Michmatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin magnets, how do they work?
xXIIIx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Explain how they work
monkeybrain3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work?
thetoiletpaper101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work?
Neskuaxa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/rvLMpjPuQek
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just keep those knees covered up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuckin' magnets, how do they work?
double2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Down the urethra?
MagnetsAreFun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets are fun.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do magnets work?
pretentiousRatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Little green ghouls
KillerJupe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like this one?
Xwolfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or maggots?
Valkyrie_Randgris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about magnets?
FridayNiteGoatParade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girls don't like guys who do "magic" as a hobby do they?
beer_me_another ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fucking magnets how do they work?
kackygreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still better than nothing
Wess_Mantooth_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work? Magic!
Jake0Tron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How the fuck do they work?
glovesoff11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, but first you'd have to understand how they work, and science hasn't come that far.
PirateX84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But...how do they work?
EveningBlab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck are magnets?
BringMyMagnets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah yeah! Magnets.
canadianstripper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stripper magnets!
The_Milk_Man_646260 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets man... how do they work?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, bitch! Magnets!
brunjr52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ehh. This can be a polarizing topic.
axxidental ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how do they work?
oxyver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but how do they work??
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:14 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuckin' magnets, how do they work?
ProfessorProfessersn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:05:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do magnets work?
house_autumn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:36:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking miracles.
packerken ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:13:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work?
itsmevichet ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:07:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work?
johnny_qcb ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but how do they work?
Shannonagannery ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but how do they work?
cjyoung92 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:43:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do they work?
[deleted] ยท 5315 points ยท Posted at 15:25:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
[deleted] ยท 2927 points ยท Posted at 15:33:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No!
...
Horseradish isn't a hobby either.
edoohan619 ยท 3369 points ยท Posted at 16:04:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about CRUSHING DREAMS. Because that would be your hobby.
cjdeck1 ยท 1106 points ยท Posted at 17:44:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] a hobby?
TheFreshOne ยท 725 points ยท Posted at 18:02:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?
ThatInsaneDude ยท 575 points ยท Posted at 18:19:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do believe someone did indeed just say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker].
HepyCola ยท 516 points ยท Posted at 18:44:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cannot believe someone did indeed just go ahead and say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker].
dtburton ยท 271 points ยท Posted at 18:51:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Global chat leaking again?
ThatDerpingGuy ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 18:53:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Barrens chat pls go
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:03:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Garrison is the new Barrens.
Natureiswiggly ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:14:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Garrison: <Natureiswiggly> says: Hearth out Barrens chat. You're drunk.
Haruhi_Fujioka ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:22:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
where can find mankrik's wife
troylatroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Underneath Chuck Norris' beard isn't a chin, it's another fist.
Afin12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:03:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Underneath Chuck Norris' bear isn't a chin, it's [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
Jowitness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHERE IS ORGIMAR??! 1!ELEVEN
jeeverz ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:59:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
<Barrens> Where is Mankrik's wife???????????????
pissclamato ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:31:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know what's weird? I have Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker. It's a sweet sword in both Diablo and World of Warcraft. I have it in both games, and still have no idea what this reference is.
RubiconGuava ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The d3 weapon is a reference to the WoW one. The lore on it seems to imply it's travelled interdimensionally from WoW to diablo.
Jowitness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When did you get it? Back in the vanilla wow days?
pissclamato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Much lightning! Very combat!
clickeddaisy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its probably the inflatable one from the 11th anniversary
Jowitness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I left shortly after I hated burning crusade. I had no idea there was an inflatable one! That's adorable
clickeddaisy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its lame. Its basically just the normal thunderfury but as a 1 hour weapon skin buff
Alucard_draculA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only 5 charges mind you.
Davis660 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just a legendary weapon with a really long name that people liked to spam in Trade
pixelprophet ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:51:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anal [Wrecking Ball]
KatzOfficial ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:58:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anal [For the children!]
clickeddaisy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anal [Fists Of Fury]
Davis660 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Opens backpack, achievements and skills in search of a funny thing to put next to the word anal.
Davis660 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anal [Healing Touch]
Ha! Got 'em!
Istoleabananaplant ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:01:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, Trade chat. WTB [Dirge]
MrNeurotoxin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:02:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[Dirge]
[Dirge]
[Dirge]
[Dirge]
[Dirge]
darklordzack ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:11:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ANAL[Devastation][For the Children]
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:46:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can leave the barrens chat but the barrens chat never leaves your soul.
I_EAT_POOP_AMA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[Inflatable Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
jd_coud9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/leave world
wannatalktosamson ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:32:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have six 80's alright pal
ujmhjk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep
kilpsz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is global chat actually there? Last time i tried i couldnt join it ...
kmacku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back in my day you could only hotlink items in Trade chat. =/
Tehsyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...what
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:32:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
bpwoods97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to be a buzzkill but I'm pretty sure people can meme however they so desire.
Ninjorico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's like, the first amendment!
bpwoods97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Freedom of Memes.
TeeReks ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:19:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WTS [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]. Garanty Delivery 5 minutes. Only half 3 left! PM for $usd$ price!
Ageir9 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:59:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Giving away my [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] to the last person in chat to say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker].
1_am_the_box_ghost ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:28:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did I hear [ Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're all doing it wrong, Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker.
Arieswolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stormwind song in the background
UtterFlatulence ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck is happening.
Bozlogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[2] Bozlogic: Did I hear [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?
Sekeret ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been reading it, until now Thunderfly this whole time...
Salvyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never thought I would see [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker] referenced outside of WoW.
thebornotaku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right? These comments make me happy
Sighlina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anal [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]??
CdmaJedi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did someone say [Blade of Wizardry]?
Dalans ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something something, [Boots of the Protector]
PotOnMyHead ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:41:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about Anal [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
SinisterSintram ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:50:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anal [Dirge]
ax0r ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:02:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's Anal [Rend]
Shimmerstone ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:48:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anal [Rupture]
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The others were amusing but you made me genuinely /lol
Slappah_Dah_Bass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sorry to burst your bubble friend, but only Anal [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseekers] is a hobby.
thequesogrande ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop that. Stop it. I turned off trade chat for a reason.
moonphoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait! When did we abandon [Shadowmourne]
JefemanG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom doesn't pay $15 a month so I can hear you nerds talk about [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]!
Kokoa_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:19:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oprah windfury
glglglglgl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"This is Dream Crusher. He protects me from unrealistic goals."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just read this thread in the voice of the alien and the little robot in Zim the Invader
neilarmsloth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...gir?
EaterofMayonaise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't let my dreams be dreams.
david531990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mom? Dad?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does my own count?
sanfrancisco69er ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least he's got one.
rrealnigga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I really like this comment :D
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:31 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
calm down, dwight
WMDTHEALMIGHTY ยท 815 points ยท Posted at 17:17:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about having BIG. MEATY. CLAWS?
[deleted] ยท 452 points ยท Posted at 17:25:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did you say, punk?
WMDTHEALMIGHTY ยท 785 points ยท Posted at 17:26:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BIG
MEATY
CLAWS
[deleted] ยท 437 points ยท Posted at 17:26:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well these claws ain't for just attracting mates!
WMDTHEALMIGHTY ยท 467 points ยท Posted at 17:29:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BRING IT ON OLD MAN!
[deleted] ยท 410 points ยท Posted at 17:36:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No people, let's be smart and bring it off..
CinnaSol ยท 516 points ยท Posted at 18:02:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, so now the talking cheese is gonna preach to us??
[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 18:07:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know tensions are high....
sylinmino ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 18:45:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a deposit on that equipment, people!
Satipo46 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 19:37:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey.. class is over.
thepenaltytick ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 20:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you did it. You took my one chance for happiness and crushed it. Crushed it into little, tiny, bite-sized pieces. I really expected better of you people. I guess I'm a loser for that too. Don't bother showing up tomorrow, I'll just tell them you all died in a marching accident. So thanks, thanks for nothing.
sylinmino ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 20:30:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome.
IMAPURPLEHIPPO ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:03:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of monsters are we? That poor creature came to us in his hour of need, and we failed him. Squidward's always been there for us when it was convenient for him. Evelyn, when your little Jimmy was trapped in a fire, who rescued him?
Hyperman360 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:28:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A fireman.
IMAPURPLEHIPPO ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:31:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and Larry, when your heart gave out from all those tanning pills, who revived you?
RippedFlannel ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:40:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some guy in an ambulance.
Moses_Brown ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:46:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right. So, if we can all just pretend that Squidward was a fireman, or some guy in an ambulance, then I'm sure that we can all pull together and discover what it truly means to be in a marching band.
IMAPURPLEHIPPO ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:03:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, for the FIREMEN!!!
guaranic ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:26:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's make Squidward proud!
A one. A two. A skiddly diddly do!
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:06:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew this was gonna happen. They're just gonna have to find another band to play. I just hope that...SQUILLIAM DOESN'T FIND OUT! SQUILLIAM! What are you doing here?!
sylinmino ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:46:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ehe. Ehe. Ehe. I just wanted to watch you blow it. So, where's your band?
xxkoloblicinxx ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:02:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, they couldn't come. They....died.
sylinmino ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:07:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then who's that?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:31:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would BE MY BAND!?!
sylinmino ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:39:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Squidward, this is exactly how I imagined your band would look.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:55:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's his...eager face.
Bananawamajama ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:59:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess this'll be the last time I can show my face in this town.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:00:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the spirit, Squidward!
guaranic ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:53:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK, FOOTBALL FANS. PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER FOR THE BIKINI BOTTOM SUPER BAND!
cbrookman ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:10:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are some ugly looking fish...
sylinmino ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:49:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe we're near one of those toxic waste dumps.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:02:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'm gonna be sick!
sylinmino ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:32:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay everybody...let's get this over with.
One. Two. Three...Four...
guaranic ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:33:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think only the video can do justice at this point:
http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/spongebob-squarepants-half-time-clip.html
Faranghis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:38:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did it Reddit!
sylinmino ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:49:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's sweet victory!
(Yeah)
VirtualDalek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:37:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Geez louise....
zidonaldo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:57:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's his... eager face.
xxkoloblicinxx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:32:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THAT WOULD BE MY BAND!!!
AWINT3RS ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:37:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my gosh. The motherfucking bubble bowl.
KimJongIllyasova ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:11:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IMAPURPLEHIPPO ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:22:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a soon to be 23 year old, I will watch the good spongebob until I die.
xFoeHammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that episode in particular("Band Geeks") is probably my favorite of all time.
sylinmino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Band Geeks is probably one of the greatest episodes of TV I've ever watched as well.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:40:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some guy in an ambulance.
modernzen ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:41:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I enjoyed this entirely too much. Thanks everyone.
sylinmino ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:00:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't thank us yet! We're not done until someone replies to me and we finish the episode (and on the topic, I'd assert it's one of the best episodes of television ever)!
WMDTHEALMIGHTY ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:32:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why did the guy delete his account ;(
redgroupclan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:36:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The winner takes all...
It's the thrill of one more kill!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was done at some point, the full episode from that point. I had a post in there somewhere but I'm too lazy to find it. It was glorious.
sylinmino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think I have it archived also. I'm confident we'll get it back!
xFoeHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I remember the whole episode by heart.
zman122333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely my favorite line from that whole sequence.
sober_as_an_ostrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jesus christ this episode is magical
vravikumar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The winner takes all...
metalflygon08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People I know tensions are high.
SirSplodingSpud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When do we start the kicking?
Haleljacob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's racist
HighOnGoofballs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big meat claws https://i.ytimg.com/vi/A5QyHj8PP-s/maxresdefault.jpg
Jethr0Paladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do people end up with deleted accounts so frequently?
dramaticlyreadsposts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:28:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WMDTHEALMIGHTY's comment.
WMDTHEALMIGHTY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
HAHAHA definitely saving this entire thread to my favorites
waviestflow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don;t know who to upvote here. This whole thing is brilliant.
moleratical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a lobster, or just a mediocre albeit delicious large crab?
RedditConsciousness ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:00:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasabi though...that's at least pretty close to a hobby. Then you can tell people about your wasabi hobby.
montrealcowboyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But trying to mix them to create the perfect condiment IS a hobby.
auntlarry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about armpit cucumber slapping?
DiarrheaMarinade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless your last name is Hellmann's
SuckleMyBigToe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least give it a chance!!!
johnny4783y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Charlie what are you interested in?
Ghoul's, I'm interested in ghoul's
passionfate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
keeps hand raised
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about things with horseradish IN them? Bloody Marys are a hobby, right?
lur77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Putting the two together is a hobby! No. Wait. That's tartar sauce.
vivazeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have made a hobby out of hating Miracle Whip. That stuff is a crime against humanity.
adudeguyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a way of life
TheForeverAloneOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's your spaghetti policy?
Boonaki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to the horseradish.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is mustard a hobby?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All these condiments and you choose to be salty.
deathwalker69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed.... horseradish is a passion not a hobby.
NightAtTheLocksBury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not with that attitude it's not
Death_in_fire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about horserashes?
moleratical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is reddit a hobby?
RC_COW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hobby is asking if there is horse raddish in of the sauces or spreads at restaurants because im severely allergic. Throat swells up a stobs me from being able to breathe.
booyah719 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets. Just magnets.
Dasvi ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 17:21:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No,unless you are Hijikata
Ncrpts ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:21:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
came here for this comment
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:37:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
immortalreploid ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:06:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Demon Vice Chief
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:58:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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immortalreploid ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:59:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, I missed...
Tentaye ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:08:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:06:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually yes, you could make homemade specialty mayonnaise as a hobby.
d-scott ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:09:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meet my new boyfriend, I knew we would be together the moment I tasted his mayonnaise!
NJlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...If you know what I mean
DKFShredder ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:09:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, mayonnaise is an instrument.
TangoJulietWhiskey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:53:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mayonnaise isn't an instrument. The thing you dip in the mayonnaise is the instrument. It's the instrument you use to get more mayonnaise in your mouth.
ROO3D ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:14:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, currently eating an instrument
Said instrument is a tuba
whatisyournamemike ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was a lubricant.
chu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
of torture
NoSpicePlease ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:35:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Yes." - Costco
Peanutcakes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:23:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it is an instrument.
creativeplease ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is butter a carb?
SuperSatanOverdrive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuck yeah like bruh mayonNICE is alpha af
cuntycunterino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put ur face in mayonnaise
amitnagpal1985 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No but I am hearing good things about thousand islands.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold the mayonnaise
2cheeks1booty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you go to RPI?
ButterflyAttack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's a lubricant.
MayoFetish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is in my house!
KazPart2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoever is the owner of the white sedan, you left your lights on
TheChiefRedditor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mayonnaise isnt just a mere hobby. Its a lifestyle.
Mattyman131 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't an instrument either!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, mayonnaise is a beverage.
mastigia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it is an instrument, I suppose if you play it well enough?
d-scott ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep
Porkpants81 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is if you have a 3DS
zjwflippers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Horticulture, masturbating, and shrimp.
liljay2k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that your gang name?
Winooze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about magnets?
meatwag0n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's an instrument http://youtu.be/kndIWMv48Z8
sssh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It may or mayonnaise.
brewksy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on where mayonnaise goes.
jseego ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That depends, is it artisinal? Did you whisk it by hand?
If so, then yes.
IAmTheBigBoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends. Are you using it as some kind of lubricant?
treethuggerr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:08:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe we are the same person
mayonnaise_man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone give this man an honest answer? I need to know...for a friend.
1_Mexican_Granted ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Yes it is. Hi there!
vincere925 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's an interest.
Kookanoodles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you mean homemade mayonnaise, of course.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...Tom?
it_burns_69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but only on the weekends.
Random420eks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mayo is an instrument so if you play the mayo, that is a hobby
AndyWinds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but it can be kinky.
notlogic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or horseradish!
sayitinmygoodear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No its a gender https://i.imgur.com/zqylLG4.jpg lol
Unexpected_Toucan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets
PGpilot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but it can be an interest.
cptntoottoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ayymayo
Staross ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mayonnaise is a way of life.
daringlunchmeat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only when you put it on eggs.
cryosnooze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No.. Mayonnaise is life.
jappyjappyhoyhoy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Artisanal mayonnaising is really popular in Portland
irrelevantPseudonym ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could count it as an interest
chunkukdo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Manonnaise (ยฐ~ยฐ)
navybean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it is if you hand-make your own in the basement.
Arieswolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that too Brooklyn!
elesdee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm into ghouls.
Not into knees.
Norse_of_60 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
try /r/cripplingalcoholism
AhhRealMuenster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is mayonnaise an instrument?
rocktogether ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what you are doing with it.
regedit007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No Hijikata you are sick
tomparker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not one I'd relish.
narayans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was this show where a girl didn't like a guy because he ate too much mayo?
TenLate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a gender
najodleglejszy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:28:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that tumblrina needed to move the new URL and bans everyone who hints at that incident.
Tower-Union ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a hobby, it's a gender!
http://imgur.com/gallery/04FDa
metro700 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, posting pathetic edgy replies for virtual internet points is also not a hobby.
Gabe_b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, if you're creative with it http://i.imgur.com/fM1qMQg.jpg
w116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's an obsession in the Netherlands, go to any restaurant serving "patat" in any country of the world, introduce your group as bunch of clogs, and extra mayonnaise will be offered on demand.
bogidyboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/im14andthisisfunny
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's a hobby AND a food group.
ManOfTheForest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...or is it?
Mayonnaise guitars
Wiizerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No... ... It's a lifestyle.
DatBowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do but it is an instrument
metaobject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not unless your name is Hellman or Duke.
Knockaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An interest
honestlyimeanreally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you play it like an instrument.
GotStomped ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, Patrick. Mayonnaise is not a hobby.
EntroperZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nee! Pre-dinner snack.
Ignativs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is, as long as you make it.
rhllor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PAW PAW?!
PenIslandTours ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How 'bout farting?
Reddit qualifies, right? Right??
FormulaLes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could be, if you know the history of it, how to make it, and collection variations of it, maybe
LucilleAustero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but have you heard about mayoneggs?
P0WERM0NGER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"This mayonnaise tastes funny."
PrincessRainbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, its an instrument.
Grognor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you know many kinds of fancy mayonnaise, or make a lot of recipes out of them, or make your own.
T3chnopsycho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No but an interest.
cypherADFX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The inner machinations of your mind are an enigma
Da_real_bossman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you push miracle whips
snorlz ยท 1085 points ยท Posted at 16:46:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
see the problem with this is that not all interests/hobbies are given the same weight. if you love video games, thats not something you want to bring up when youre on a date
mocylop ยท 3270 points ยท Posted at 17:31:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You can have "consumer" hobbies, and those are fine. However, when people mention having hobbies or interest they mean ones where you are a creator/instigator.
When you play a video game or watch a movie you are consuming something, and regardless of how into that you are it is harder for you to share that or be interesting unless another person is also into that "consumer" hobby.
On the other hand if you have a hobby where you are an instigator you can much more easily share that with someone and let them experience that with you. You can teach someone something as you do it and share the experience.
A couple of examples:
I'm really into outdoorsie stuff. I love to backpack, camp, canoe, etc... This is stuff that I can bring someone along and teach them something, see something cool, and share a memorable experience.
OR if you are into photography. You can go somewhere interesting to take some pictures. You create a unique memorable experience and are able to share/teach someone a skill that they didn't have previously.
To be clear I'm not trying to be down on Video Games. I've put literally thousands of hours into Dota 2, Arma, Mount and Blade, etc... However, I'm not gonna use that as a basis of getting to know someone because it will almost certainly be a situation where you are passively consuming some content within the confines of your home. It isn't an interesting/ unique or memorable situation. You aren't going to come out of that experience with a greater or closer understanding of another person.
Edit: By consumer I don;t mean the "I open up my wallet And it's full of blood" capitalist consumerist machine that we live in. I mean that it is a hobby where you are generally consuming the creation of someone else. Passive might be a better word. E.G. Watching Gilmore Girls is a passive hobby. While playing intramural kickball is a instigator/creator hobby.
chumothy ยท 429 points ยท Posted at 17:37:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great response, thank you. I replied to them as well, but this is the crux of what I originally intended when I said "hobbies or interests."
little_seed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:40:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a list of hobbies somewhere? I don't have any, and I really want to stop being a consumer
AMZ88 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:02:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Behold!
little_seed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hmm. now to cross reference things I enjoy doing. thanks!
AMZ88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem!
Beingabummer ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 19:55:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And we were supposed to divine that from three words? Hobbies include movies and video games.
coolStarryBra09 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:59:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, you're such a... username checks out
abutthole ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 21:23:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet you're the 1,000th person to say that to him. Username jokes are never good.
PresidentCage ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:34:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, you're such a... username checks out
abutthole ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:27:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. When you have a joke username you hear it all the time. I felt bad for the poor guy.
thatissomeBS ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:04:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that is some BS.
isubird33 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:38:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think in the context of becoming more attractive, a its pretty clear what they mean by a hobby. Watching football on Sundays, no. Playing flag football on Sundays, yes.
[deleted] ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 18:25:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 19:06:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of that only works well with other people who have similar knowledge, so it doesn't really help much. Such hobbies can certainly be rewarding, but they're not particularly social except with other people who share the hobby.
mocylop ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:14:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mentioned this a bit in my main post, but there is still a difference between a consumer hobby you can talk about and an instigator hobby you can show/include someone.
More likely than not. You discussion of cinematography will be over their head unless they are also interested in the same consumer hobby as you. Which solves the problem of consumer hobbies being relatively uninteresting by virtue of that person having "bought into" that hobby also. Alternatively they might be really into you so your discussion of cinematography will be the greatest topic ever because they really want to jump your bones.
The key difference is that an instigator hobby is something that you can share with someone who has no experience in it. During which you can learn about each other, share a unique and memorable experience, and show your skill at something/show that you are interesting. In short you are creating content.
And people like folks who create content.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:31:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SirBaconHam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, get in line bro.
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fight me irl
sinurgy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the TL;DR
nostrademons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where does Reddit fall on that continuum? You're "consuming" content made by non-professionals, but on a for-profit website that very carefully optimizes for addictiveness. OTOH, some Reddit "hobbies" (I'm looking at you, imgur), are now businesses in their own right worth hundreds of millions of dollars. It's a community that is larger than several nation-states, but also one where outsiders really won't get most of the in-jokes.
tsein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really like where you're coming from, but...
This is not true of all instigator hobbies. I enjoy writing computer software, for example, and while the end result of some projects (those which make pretty pictures) can be interesting to people with no relevant domain knowledge, most of what I do does not fall in this category.
I'm certain there are far more instigator hobbies which you can share with pretty much anybody, and the discussions you might have about them are also likely to be deeper and more interesting than the ones focused on consumer hobbies, but if you're taking up a new hobby as a means of trying to become more interesting or attractive, you will still need to pick and choose a bit to avoid following one that the people you want to be interested won't relate to.
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you can share that! Sure you can't talk about the code behind it but you can talk why you did it, or something to that effect. You have to build the conversation to who you are talking to. I've been able to turn Warhammer 40K tabletop into a conversation piece because I found out she was an artist and I painted my own figures. So I focused on the art rather than the game.
PrimeIntellect ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:21:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it doesn't really work that way, that's like saying your hobby of watching football is the same as someone playing football, because they know the same rules and stats.
mandaliet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The way I think of it, the "interesting" hobbies are those that develop one's capacities in some way. Lifting weights, playing an instrument and cooking are three obvious examples. But so is learning about science by reading or studying, even though there's a sense in which this is a kind of "consumption." People like Richard Feynman are engaging because they use their capacity for scientific understanding to illuminate the subject for others.
As you mention, one can learn about film in much the same way as one can learn about science or other subjects. But needless to say, that is not what most people are doing when they go to see a movie. Most people aren't developing any significant ability or understanding when they catch Star Wars at the local mall.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:20:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say most can.
CadmiumFlow ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:22:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is an awesome response. I've been trying to find the way to describe the difference between having say running or sailing as a hobby vs video games and watching movies/sports. I had once told a younger friend seeking advice, "get good at something that doesn't involve a screen." But I like your breakdown a little better, since you could argue that creative writing is a hobby that involves a screen but is definitely not of the "consumer" type, which is more what I was telling him to branch away from.
MsLogophile ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 18:53:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh an eloquent explaination on why I cringe when people say anime is their hobby. Not cosplay, not role play, just - anime. It's like saying TV is a hobby. You just sit there :/
RaitoGG ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:34:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still a hobby. The guy you responded to literally labelled it a "consumer hobby", so it's still a hobby.
MsLogophile ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you may notice I didn't say it WASN'T a hobby? I said I cringe when people list it as their hobby.
RaitoGG ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:41:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you cringe when people put a hobby as a hobby. Alrighty.
MsLogophile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok? Youre upset about what activities I personally find cringe-y? Its not that strange to find sitting around watching a bunch of episodes of anime a distasteful activity. Sitting around watching anything (movies, TV, etc) is boring to me. So what? I never said it wasnt a hobby. I said I had a mental reaction to people saying "anime" was their hobby
klethra ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:40:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in a similar position with one exception. One of my friends is truly into anime and video games as expressions of story, and he uses these media as inspiration for his own creation of a video game. For this guy, it's a creative hobby rather than one based on consumption. He calls himself a weeaboo, but honestly, the self-deprication strikes me as being pretty unnecessary.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:36:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like 90% of anime fans jokingly do this.
pomegra ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:24:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just odd that you felt the need to specify and isolate anime specifically. And odd that you find it distasteful. I find watching football boring, but I don't think that it's distasteful to watch it, nor do I think that considering it a hobby is cringeworthy. That's a bit extreme.
Not to say that you're not allowed to feel the way you feel. It's certainly not uncommon to find anime distasteful. That's a very common opinion, in fact. Usually because they think it's childish. Or overly cartoonish. Or just too nerdy.
You can go right out and say it, if that's the case. You don't need to hide behind a facade of disliking watching things in general, when it seems clear that your ire is disproportionately focused towards anime.
MsLogophile ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im not hiding behind a facade of not liking TV, lol. I really dont like watching movies, I see maybe 1 a year in theaters if that, im a grad student, so yeah I really wish I was hiding behind that excuse and secretly loved movies bc I could sure use some time to zonk out. i just dont have time for it anyways. sure it was super focused on anime when I made that comment, but people can find whatever they like distasteful. I dont think ANIME is distasteful, I find obsession over it to the point of it being their main hobby distasteful.
pomegra ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:33:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, why anime specifically? It's fine to find anime distasteful as I've already said. It's a very common opinion. It, however, doesn't make sense to find it more distasteful than movies and TV for the reasons that you've let on.
There's a reason why you focused on anime over the more intuitive option of simply saying "I think it's odd when someone's main hobby revolves around watching a screen"
MsLogophile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind Im not attacking anime, take this from someone who was into anime, went to Cons, fuck dude when I was like 10 I ran around my basement with a necklace pretending I was some chick-inuyasha.
Maybe its my podunk state, but The cultural obsession over anime in my area is all around weird. The rabbit hole for anime seems to go pretty deep, which is fine most hobbies do. I know plenty of people obsessed with star wars, tolkein, supernatural, downtown abbey, netflix in general, cinephiles, etc too, and it doesnt seem to take over their life and create a suck of isolating escapism like anime does. I know people prone to wanting a mental escape will sometimes gravitate towards these other "cultures" or "religions" in their media. But sometimes, the surrounding culture is just obnoxious and even the adults who have jobs and are just into it as a hobby seem pretty immersed and thus isolated with each other, maybe thats my issue. Losing a friend to a "hobby" you once shared kinda sucks, maybe its like doing drugs, you decide to quit taking them, then see who was just friends with you because you had the full DVD series of cowboy bebop. lol
pomegra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that makes more sense. Sorry, it seems I misunderstood what you meant.
The culture around anime can definitely get to an obsession of that degree. I thought your issue with anime was more to do with the medium itself rather than the rabid fans. And although some might say that the fans are more to blame, what you describe is certainly something characteristic of anime fandom specifically.
MsLogophile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no i love the medium and the art, and Im still a fan of a few shows. I just dont like to generalize when it comes to fandoms. so the cringing comes from someone introducing this potential "flag" to aspects of their personality that I might not jive with. That can stereotyping to a degree but in my only experiences someone is either a casual fan and wouldnt list it as a hobby, or insists they arent obsessed but only talks about all the different shows, figurines they bought, plushies, conventions, and their next cosplay. I totally respect its this big world that seems kinda fun, but its so isolating if you are just a casual watcher trying to hang out with these people. I feel the need to really actively construct activities sans-anime to make sure I can be included, only to still be "removed" (i.e. I set up a wine and paint night at my house and picked a video tutorial on cherry blossoms, they wanted to sketch pokemon instead)
anime itself can be great. I dont dig the childish ones and the cheesy shit, which somehow always stay in vogue with the adults. Whyy.
Gooflactus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:48:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with just "sitting there"?
I watch TV/Anime/Movies/Read Comic Books for my hobbies and I enjoy them.
What is the difference between this and general reading, that people seem to think is a damn good hobby?
I enjoy the stories that come from watching these shows/movies, and I feel like it is not cringe worthy.
Now what might be cringe worthy is if they watch anime just to "watch anime"
I feel like if you watch something there should be a reason to liking it to, something that can spark a discussion maybe.
"I watch <this show> because it makes me laugh" or "I watch this show cause it is a good thriller/mystery and I want to try to figure out who the killer is" or even " I watch this show cause the animation is great, and I enjoy that" I would not find that cringe worthy at all.
Sorry I think I just went a little more "neckbeard" then I wanted there, but the point still stands that there is nothing wrong with "just sitting there"
isubird33 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 20:40:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's nothing wrong with it, but in a thread talking about "how to be more attractive" that kind of thing isn't really applicable.
MsLogophile ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:00:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I should have specified when they list passive stuff like that as their first or only hobby
Gooflactus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:05:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok you kind of got me there, but I would never call it "cringe worthy", and again at least with Anime there is a lot you can still talk about it. As long as it is not just the Standard ones and they watch it just to watch it kind of thing.
Maybe that is just me though.
PPL_93 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:04:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't find it "cringe worthy" but most others do unfortunately.
PastelPastries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sometimes enjoy anime, but still find it cringeworthy. People try to use anime to start a conversation with me because I like Japanese things, but I find talking about anime to be incredibly boring. Usually the anime watcher just identifies with watching anime, playing games, and collecting stuff, so there's often not much else to go on.
lcg18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nobody said theres anything wrong with it, we are saying non consumer hobbies are more attractive
theRLO ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:35:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is wrong with it. It's just been labeled as a consumer hobby and not a creative one - which was a point in the earlier comments on the thread. I'm not sure how you missed that context other than you were searching for a little soapbox to stand on to make a point that's already been made.
You did go a lot neckbeard there, not just a little.
We get it. You like anime.
I'm also pretty confused as to why you hate on people who purely watch it to watch it. Elitism, I suppose.
Gooflactus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:52:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God damn, you did not even try to go with a conversation you just went full attack mode there didn't you.
Plus if you read the thread, I was starting to see her point a bit, like what your supposed to do in a debate/conversation.
But ok whatever.
theRLO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man....
Sorry if I touched a nerve. I looked at what I said and although I don't think I went "full attack mode" I do see how it could have rubbed someone the wrong way.
You are pretending to be a victim when you did basically the exact same thing here in a way that could be construed as much more offensive than my critique.
Keep it real.
Gooflactus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, it's funny cause I was actually done with all this, and was just gonna leave it be.
You must really feel strongly about this if you decide to go into my post history and all that, wow.
Anyway like I said, i'm done. You have fun thinking I am an elitist or whatever.
lcg18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dont think criticism of your comment means full attack mode tbh
MsLogophile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel differently about TV and movies than most people I guess. The passive absorption even when you are watching interesting and educational stuff just gets really old really fast for me. Reading is much more engaging.
Gooflactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How though, i mean your still absorbing the information right.
I mean if that is the way you feel, then that's cool that's your thing, but you should not i guess knock TV if it is not for you, cause it might be for someone else.
PrimeIntellect ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:23:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Things don't just get a free pass from criticism because you like them, we are on reddit, and can dislike anything as freely as you can like something, and you are required to have an equal amount of respect for my dislike of an activity as I am of liking an activity.
Gooflactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who says I am not respecting their ideas?
People are free to like/dislike what ever you want, and I am free to ask questions about why they don't like them and offer counter points to strike up a debate.
MsLogophile ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:23:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh mode of absorbtion is very important to me, and reading engages much more of your brain. Im still sitting on my ass, but at least a book makes me work mentally, instead of staring at a screen (for even more time than I am forced to for school or work). All that brain involvement leads to me feeling like I actually did something instead of passively being spoon fed a TV show. Thats just me tho.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Gooflactus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If this was 5-10 years ago, then no.
Now a days though, Television based story telling has gone up.
Look at the Netflix shows (with no ads mind you)
Look at some of the shows that have been out now such as Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Sherlock, The Flash. Admittedly those are the shows I love and you might not, but you can still see my point.
Also, with every medium there is good and there is bad, TV has Kardasians and all that, Books have Twilight. It just a medium that has to be molded and used the right way, and I think TV is really starting to get up there now.
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mastelsa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:16:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reading actually does engage different parts of your brain, mainly because you have to imagine quite a bit as you're reading. TV can be just as effective for telling a story, but it's not very effective at making us translate words to images. Which is an important mental skill. Reading fiction (as opposed to watching TV) also appears to enhance general brain connectivity and develop empathy. TV/movies are probably the most passive type of media we can consume.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:41:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly!
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MsLogophile ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:17:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes, reading is much more mentally engaging. Sure you are still sitting around, but at least you are forcing your brain into more activity than just staring at a screen. Thats just me tho
Renyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of depends on the level of interest they have though. You can "just sit and watch" the show, or you can take more active interest by reading the source material, thinking out plot points and details, trying to understand the deeper aspects of a character, and watching and discussing it with friends which can be really fun itself. Especially with something like Anime it can also act as a window into another culture. Yeah, it's not that accurate, but it provides some insight into the music, food, traditions, and language.
Consuming doesn't have to be inactive. It still broadens knowledge and understanding of a subject and can lead to other new interests and ideas.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine if you think watching anime is not your thing, but why is it cringeworthy? That's kind of an extreme reaction, don't you think?
Also anime is not the only hobby where you just "sit there". I don't know why you had to specify anime unless you had something against anime specifically.
MsLogophile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find it socially isolating, friends lost and obsessed with the culture who used to do other activities now just only interact with con-friends. I used to be really into it so this isnt some anti-weebo whatever. sure thats my experience and my opinion. Some people find black lipstick cringeworthy. Idk. let them cringe.
maryberry33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a cinephile is essentially the same thing. Only that watching movies is somehow more socially acceptable and sounds more pretentious.
There is perhaps something about anime specifically that you don't like beyond what you have stated.
MsLogophile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No I guess it's a feeling I have towards movies and TV in general now that I think about it. It's so passive that even when it is good and interesting and educational I just can't stomach it for longer than one movies time. I know movies can engage your brain and emotions but to me it's not fulfilling. Discussions about said movies or anime, cosplay, fan groups, it really doesn't do much for me, I know.
I guess I prefer different activities.
stillalone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:53:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about discussing episodes on message boards?
aizxy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:43:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All this is completely true, and explained very well, but that's kind of snortz's point. Some people genuinely aren't interested in hobbies where you are a "creator." I don't think you are trying to say that having a hobby where you are the creator is inherently better than one where you are a consumer, but like you explained, the second is much harder to connect with someone over, so what do you do then?
For me personally, the hobby that mostly closely fits the "creator" role is working out. I love writing workout plans, learning theory about why and how different programs work, your anatomy and its relation to lifting. But if someone asked me what my hobbies are and I said lifting, they would probably be much less interested than if I said something like woodworking or classic car restoration. Unless they are already interested in that topic, people don't usually care enough to want to learn more or listen to you talk about it.
rmphys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend did this back in college, and its something I really want to get into, but I don't have the time, money, or knowledge.
aznsk8s87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this one's pretty niche and requires a lot of capital to get into. It's pretty fucking cool, though.
Kerbobotat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:47:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is listening to F#A#โ a consumer hobby or an instigator hobby?
Daeurth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:36:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now all I can think of is Dead Flag Blues by Godspeed You! Black Emperor...
Hi from /r/postrock!
2-7-2015 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel...
Daeurth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:29:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides. And a dark wind blows.
RakeattheGates ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:18:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weird.. I had almost this exact same thought earlier today when I was reflecting on how I split my time between more interesting creative hobbies like brewing, woodworking and the like and gaming/computer stuff. Realized I needed to look at it through the lens of someone nearing the end of their life. What will I be proud of? The cool table I made or the time I sunk into games? I am going to use this to shift my motivation when I want to complete tasks and feel myself being lazy. It's a case of immediate but fleeting gratification vs. Delayed, enduring gratification.
Nothing wrong with games, of course, I play tons, but everyone can game/watch TV (or any other consumption hobby) so while it can give you a platform to connect with others socially it doesn't really make you unique.
Dilderino ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:36:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just out of curiosity, how did you get into woodworking? Was it something you grew up around or did you pick it up as an adult?
RakeattheGates ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm far from a pro, but it was a combination of the latent interest (I looove well-finished wood furniture) running into a motivation surge from a recent breakup. I needed a table for my apartment after my ex and I split up so I started googling for plans and realized pretty quickly I could do it myself. As I browsed around I got more serious and did loads of research on how to make one that would last and be a statement piece etc. I've always been the sort to just dive into stuff and get a little obsessive so it fit well with all thr time I had on my hands.
It can be hard to get into as there is definitely a bit of an equipment barrier to entry but there are ways around it. Maker spaces, community woodshops etc. I was lucky as my dad had loads of old tools around (that he never used) that covered most of my bases. If you have a decent drill, an orbital sander and a table and miter saw (or just a crosscut jig for the table saw) you can do a lot of damage.
Now I need a bed frame I can break down to fit up some stairs so that is my next project.
Dilderino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's nothing quite like that post-breakup drive for self improvement is there? I've been looking for a new hobby lately and I think I would enjoy a project like that, although probably something simpler than a table haha. Anyways thanks for sharing and good luck on your next project!
RakeattheGates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! Doesn't matter what you do or how it turns out, just that you're doing, and learning, something. There tons of DIY guides out there to get you started, all you need is an idea of what you want to do. The folks at /r/woodworking do some amazing stuff and are really helpful too.
Gooflactus ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:49:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know there is another side to this coin...
What if you just don't want to be a "creator/instigator"?
This is a problem I seem to have.
I have tried different hobbies where I am making something or doing something....and they were not fun at all, nothing has really seemed to get my interest besides watching TV and video games and all that. Just for the fact of its relaxing.
I just plain find it more relaxing to consume then to do/make anything.
Don't get me wrong I just don't sit on my but all day, I have a good job and all that. But on my free time I just like to relax, not really think, and just enjoy a good story/game.
mocylop ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 19:07:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can still be an interesting person with a consumer hobby. It just that you have a much narrower group of people that you will be interesting to.
The key diff. between the two is that in consumer hobbies you need to find someone who is also bought into that hobby for you to really be able to capitalize on it. While in a instigator hobby you can usually grab anyone off the street, and integrate them into your hobby in order to create a memorable experience.
I should also elaborate that these things don't necessarily need to be "hobbies" you know. They don't have to be things that you are super proficient at and are really into. You could literally just enjoy doing "stuff". Like to dance at the bar, go out for drinks, casually play a sport, cook on occasion, or you might like to climb tall things when you get a chance. Like they can be pretty minimal things they primarily just need to be things where you can bring someone who hasn't done them before along for the ride easily.
isubird33 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:42:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is huge. The only sport I would really consider myself "good" at compared to your average Joe is golf. But if you are passable at most sports...know how to dribble and shoot a basketball, throw a spiral, play some tennis....you are set.
aznsk8s87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Several of my friends have met their spouse through ending up on the same intramural softball/flag football/volleyball teams.
I'm terrible at basketball, and getting stuffed when you're 5'4" kinda sucks. I'm terrible at making my way towards the basket. But I can still pass, shoot, and screen, and so while I'm never the first pick out of the lineup, I can still play.
AlphaKlams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
who what now
BarbieQFreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if I understand the distinction you're making.
You say that someone has to be "bought in" to a consumer hobby, but how can you take someone camping if they have no boots/sleeping bag/tent?
I can see your point for example, in finding TV shows two people watched separately, and now they can talk about them once they've later met.
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just used that example because I have that extra equipment and if multiple people want to go renting is relatively cheap in my area.
It applies to me but might not be applicable if you live in downtown N.Y. City or something.
The main point is that in passive entertainment someone needs to be interested in the thing before hand to be able to be interested in your conversation, generally speaking. Whereas, in a more interactive hobby you can bring someone in who as little experience with it and give them a fun experience.
Gooflactus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:30:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, while that makes sense to a degree.
I don't think many people would like some of the "stuff" answers.
"So..what do you do for fun?"
"I drink"
"Oh....."
Who knows though.
In any case though, I think the point was you were saying that people should have a "creator/includer" hobby, and I am just saying sometimes, people just don't want one.
mocylop ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:12:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I didn't mean that it was a thing you talked about. I meant it was thing you actively invited people to go do.
And that is fine. Live your life however you want to live it.
Gooflactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I guess I misread that part then.
My bad.
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:58:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just out of curiosity, what did you try?
Gooflactus ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:18:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Off the top of my head:
Tried to learn Guitar
Tried to learn Photoshop/do some art-sy kind of stuff
Snorkeling
Camping
Programming for fun (I work with computers for my job, which I enjoy)
Was in a few sports teams when I was a kid but that never clicked.
Right now I am trying to do podcasting which is fun, but it is all about something I like to "consume" (Power Rangers btw) and the guy I do with it with is doing way more with it (he is WAY more outgoing then me and to do something like that you do have to have a sort of "presence" which I can't pull off)
That was just a few of them that I remember.
In the end I try but then just stop cause it feels like there is no "end-goal" as it were so what was the point. Especially when I have more enjoyment, reading comic books and watching "good" TV/Movies ( i know good is relative but you get the idea).
One thing that has clicked is cooking, but I think that clicked a little more cause there is an end goal of "you gotta eat" might as well make it taste good, but even then I don't tend to have fun doing it, like if I did not have to eat would I keep doing it?
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:28:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm...I suppose there really isn't an endgoal for those things, except to have fun. But with music and art, I don't think I really started to have fun until I started to feel proud of my accomplishments, even the meager ones. And the first step to being good at something is sucking at something.
You'll never see me knock passive hobbies like Netflix and video games. Check my history and you'll see a lot of Smash Bros posts, ha ha. But there is a beauty in creating a piece of art or writing a song that I don't find in watching TV or playing most video games. And the cool part about creating something is that you can share it with someone special. Like, you can bake a cake or play a song for/with someone.
But to each their own. Just food for thought :)
Gooflactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok before I keep talking, just want to point out that I get your point and I am just keeping the conversation going and not trying to send an attack or anything.
Also, FYI I do tend to ramble with these kind of things so if I start to make no sense, my bad.
I see you're point, I really do. I just don't think I am wired that way.
I feel like you should not just have a hobby to share with people just to share(that just seems like your showing off) and I feel like you need to get enjoyment from doing said thing on every step of the process (even if it is hard and you are learning or w/e). Like I get some things take time to learn, but then it goes with to you feel like it's going to be fun to learn this skill. (not saying I want it to be easy, I just want it to be an interesting challenge).
I feel like for me to enjoy an "active" hobby it needs to do 2 things, it needs to have a kind of purpose and it needs to be fun from start to end. If there is no purpose then why am I doing it, and if it is not fun, then it is just work.
This is why I like cooking to a degree cause it fills those 2 roles, but I will never make something just to share, I will make it cause there is a situation (party/potluck/etc) where I need to make it. But then again when I get to my normal day to day stuff where I don't need to cook something interesting....then I don't and I go back to television cause it is relaxing.
mastelsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you tried many crafts? Most crafts require a little bit of economic investment for proper tools and such, but there are lots of things you can learn to do that will both make stuff you can use and that have fun and/or relaxing processes to them. I know plenty of men and women who enjoy knitting/crocheting, which can be done while watching TV. Whittling, wood burning, and woodwork can be great ways to learn a skill while also making unique birthday/holiday presents for people that they wouldn't be able to get at a store. Baking, cake decorating, and candy making is fun and challenging, and you get to eat your results. If you live alone you can always get rid of excess baked goods at work or at a local retirement home--your efforts will not go unnoticed. You don't need a pottery wheel or fancy clay to mess around with sculpting stuff--get yourself some Sculpey and see what you can make. I do these magnets that look like fictional characters out of Sculpey and paint and now I barely have to buy Christmas gifts for anyone. If you get decent at what you do (or if you do something really unique) you can even make it a self-sustaining hobby by selling it on Etsy.
There's definitely a learning curve for all of these things, but when you do them you're working on actual projects that are a little more concrete than scuba or camping. A lot of craft stores offer introductory classes to various crafts, and almost every community college offers low-cost enrichment classes to get you started in stuff like this. You should give it a shot--you might be surprised how crafty you can be.
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you're saying, no worries. I'm not taking it as an attack at all. :)
You say that a hobby needs to have an endgoal and it needs to be fun from start to finish. I agree! And for me, drawing or playing guitar meet those requirements: my endgoal is to create something beautiful, and usually the process is fun from start to finish, though I do admit that practicing scales gets old. But I know what you mean about being "wired that way." For instance, I'm not wired to enjoy most team sports, ha ha.
Just to clarify: I don't cook for my friends, or make them art, to show off...I just like to share things with people who appreciate them. By the same token, if someone creates something for me, I never think they're showing off or anything like that. So I can't really relate to that part of your comment, honestly
isubird33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A great way is to set attainable end goals. Learning guitar? Don't set out to master it....just try to learn enough to break out a guitar at a party and play 3-4 popular songs.
Sports is an example for me. I can beat my girlfriend in almost any sport besides tennis. She played in high school, I didn't. My main drive at trying to get better at tennis isn't to be the best, its just to beat her. Its all about setting attainable goals.
Gooflactus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
End goal might not be the right word actually, I think a better word is purpose.
(note I copied this part from another post)
I feel like for me to enjoy an "active" hobby it needs to do 2 things, it needs to have a kind of purpose and it needs to be fun from start to end. If there is no purpose then why am I doing it, and if it is not fun, then it is just work.
This is why I like cooking to a degree cause it fills those 2 roles, but I will never make something just to share, I will make it cause there is a situation (party/potluck/etc) where I need to make it. But then again when I get to my normal day to day stuff where I don't need to cook something interesting....then I don't and I go back to television cause it is relaxing.
This could just be the way my brain is wired honestly.
aznsk8s87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is where a lot of people differ on their hobbies. I enjoy a lot of my hobbies because there is no limit to what I can achieve, see, or accomplish. I'm always learning new songs on the piano and guitar (or at least I was when I had access to those), checking out new hiking trails to see new sights, hitting smaller and smaller targets further and further away with my rifle, that sort of thing.
You can do this with cooking - you can always try a new dish, and experiment with new ingredients.
Just some of my own food for thought, but to each their own.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need to define your own end goal for each hobby. There are hobbies like learning programming where it's limitless but YOU need to have goals in the hobby.
motherinlawstongue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps music is a better choice. Hard as fuck at first, but once you get past that true beginner stage it can be great relaxation to play. Plus it is one of the best creator hobbies and everyone enjoys music, including pretty girls.
Gooflactus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:28:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tried, at least with Guitar.
Did not enjoy it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that's the other side of the coin... I think that is true for pretty much everyone. Consuming is easier than thinking, doing, or producing. If you have a demanding and stressful job, the natural reaction is to use your off time to do things that are not demanding.
But... Most people think they have a stressful job. Rarely will you find a person who says "yeah, work is work, but the nice thing about it is that I leave it feeling energized and ready to tackle the rest of the day." If you are looking for new friends or a date, being someone who has a stressful job and just wants to relax afterward is normal... but not very interesting. Being a person who has a job and who persues interesting, challenging hobbies outside work is (a) more interesting, (b) showing a higher level of general fitness and stamina, (c) showing they have a drive to better themselves and make use of their innate potential. Not that a person who only does their job can't be or demonstrate these things, but having active hobbies demonstrates them more so.
Seeing as this is a thread about making oneself more attractive, I feel it safe to assume that you yourself would be interested in exploiting this idea. If so, I offer these:
1) Make your hobby different than your job. If you are a construction worker, you are probably physically beat, so start off trying something more mental, like learning a new language. Conversely, if you are an engineer, you are probably mentally tired, but not physically tired, so you might try something like weightlifting or parkour ir cycling.
2) Make it social. As an introvert myself, I feel like people make a bigger deal about introversion than really exists. Sure, small talk can be draining, hanging out with people who bore you is draining, but talking about something you are interested with someone you like is almost always enjoyable. Meanwhile, the greatest tool humans have for learning, growing, and creating are our social networks. If you feel like you are part of a community, like people want you around and expect you to be there, sticking to a schedule for your hobbies becomes infinitely easier. Learning and getting good fast is easier when you can quickly ask for help. The hobby becomes cheaper, since you can borrow equipment and materials. Extroverts can often accomplish this socialization by combing their large social networks for other people who are similarly interested. But for introverts, there are more solidified social institutions to help, like clubs, leagues, and businesses (like gyms) where newcomers are welcome.
3) Keep searching until you find something. Really, there is something out there for everyone. You just need to find the right interest with the right community. If you don't have a real idea of what might interest you, start searching the internet fkr things that sound cool. Go to a few related events, meet people, and generally try to make a real effort to see if you like it. If it doesn't work out, who cares? You had one more experience in your lifetime. Even if you end up hating it, at least it is different, and you'll have something to talk about other than "did you see the new episode of xyz?" Just being a person who tries new things makes you more attractive.
niberungvalesti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 is so much more important than it may seem on its face. I guess it's just by virtue of our hyper competitive society but once you come to the realization that you're going to fail alot if you ever intend to succeed at anything, things get easier. It may be frustrating, embarrassing, shameful and otherwise unpleasant but you have to push forward because each failure is a teachable moment if you put your ego aside and actually learn from it.
Failures tend to also make good stories once you've managed to reach whatever goals set while also making you seem like a more genuine person. Everyone is willing to talk about how great they are at X as if they didn't fail numerous times. Why not be that person that cuts to the truth and lightens up the room?
klethra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yeah. Of course it's easier and more relaxing. If you find something that engages you, it can put you "in the zone" where it's both challenging and rewarding. The hard part is getting past that first bit where it's challenging, but not rewarding.
Gooflactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See i feel like even the "challenging" parts should be fun to a degree also.
Like why do something as a hobby if it is not fun from start to finish.
klethra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I would say that a lot of hobbies worth doing aren't fun from the very start. Lifting and running are two big ones for me. Neither were the best thing ever on day one, but now I wouldn't want to miss a day.
PrimeIntellect ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, it's not really a problem, we are just talking about ways of being more attractive or interesting, and being that creator or instigator is always going to be more interesting than someone who just consumes media, because well, anyone could sit there and watch those same shows, and the end result is the same.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watching Gilmore Girls might be something you want to bring up, though. People that like Gilmore Girls have good taste.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:59:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:07 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't believe how many replies I got that are essentially "I am nerd and women are shallow and will never seem my greatness".
admirablefox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait a minute, "I open up my wallet And it's full of blood" is a line from Godspeed you! Black Emperor, isn't it?
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yep
AttackPug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the important thing about instigator/creator hobbies is that they tend to create adventure and get you out of the house by themselves. If not that, then they leave you with concrete evidence of time well spent. An example would be a painting you finished. The important part is that you have to grow as a person to pursue the hobby. It's less about doing things that impress others, and more about doing things that impress yourself, and having evidence left over that you can impress yourself.
eastcoastblaze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kayaking is my favorite hobby and one i'd highly recommend, if you're kayaking on a lake you're going to get great exercise, it's so relaxing just to float in the water and look to shore, or if you want more thrills take it to a river.
MSUKirsch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick Godspeed You! Black Emperor reference.
Raknarg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know... I usually come out of my Call of Duty sessions with a better understanding of my mother, and the number of prepubescent boys she's had intercourse with.
Zbruhbro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something I have done time and time again with video games...
mocylop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm not saying your experiences are invalid, at least I don't intend to.
These are pretty broad strokes that I'm making here, and they won;t cover every possibility.
Renyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, video games can definitely be a bonding experience and a great way to meet new people. Depends on what you're playing of course.
THROBBING-COCK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MMOs are great for meeting people.
Helium_3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That honestly depends, if you create content from a video game (streaming, YT channels) it's no longer a consumer hobby, though I'm not sure how many people would be interested in your popular twitch steam.
sylendar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, this was an eye opening way of explaining things. I can't believe I didn't see hobbies like this before.
GeorgeEpstein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get what you are saying, and agree for the most part. However, I'd argue that just HAVING hobbies and interests makes you more attractive, whether or not you SHARE them with your date. For example, if I'm on a date and ask 'What do you do for fun?' and the person says 'nothing, really. I work a lot.' I have nothing I can follow up with. Whereas if they say the play video games, I can ask which games, why they like them, if they play with people online, what was their first video game, etc and the conversation keeps going, and the fact that they can answer those questions is more attractive. I do NOT play video games, but if someone does, or any other consumer hobby, it's still better than having nothing. OR, if it's an obscure hobby, I still find it interesting because making stained glass lamps is something I have no interest in doing myself, but sure have a lot of questions about.
mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, having something you like to do is better than being an empty vessel.
This post is in a weird place between dating and how to be interesting. I;m aiming more towards how to be interesting to other people in a very general sense. If you've got a date there is already a certain amount of buy in from your partner.
GeorgeEpstein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good point. I feel like a lot of this advice is how to LOOK more attractive (which is helpful), but I read it as BE more attractive. I guess I'm thinking of the very good looking, yet boring people that I know. Or the very interesting yet 'wouldn't give a second look on the street' people. Either way, it appears that the first step is to be clean!
grapesandmilk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They still involve consumerism.
mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't literally mean consumerism. We are all trapped in this capitalist machine and the machine is bleeding to death.
I mean do your hobbies involve you making something or making fun experiences that others can enjoy.
AmoryGatsby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you are being down on video games by playing shitty ones...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly right! Be someone who adds things to the world
Dalemaunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mount and Blade... Are you my spirit animal?
Exaskryz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, except not of those instigator hobbies are fun or shareable if they are. I mean, the most instigation of my hobbies that I have is basic coding, otherwise it's reading up on stuff on the internet or watching youtube videos or playing video games.
Edit: How about board games? Are those any better than video games? Though I'd imagine that nice multiplayer games are far better than the solo games that you listed (I think those games are solo..?)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've got it pretty much dead on here. When I want to talk about the "gaming" facet of my life, I talk about how I super enjoy building performance PC's, from research and purchase to personal assembly and planning of complex systems like liquid cooling mods.
PhilW1010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can come up with a million excuses as to why I only have video games as a hobby, but I'll skip that and just ask if you have any ideas for some people who may be looking for a new hobby but can't afford the typical things or have the space for larger hobbies?
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It kinda depends on where you live and your interests. I live around a bunch of state/national parks so outdoorsy stuff is relatively easy for me.
I also think people harp on hobbies a bit too much, and yes I just made a giant post about hobbies.
Really though the broader idea is to be an interesting person, and you don't need to be hardcore into any specific hobby to do that. You just need to do stuff that people find interesting, that you can invite people to, and that define who you are in its on little way.
Invite folks out to the bars or the beach or whatever activity. People like being invited places, or like I enjoy climbing tall things. Its not really a hobby of mine but its a thing I do. So sometimes when I meet someone i mention it and occasionally take someone to a really cool tall place I found. It isn't a hobby or anything. Just something I enjoy that I can invite other people to do with me.
I realize I am rambling a bit, but I personally feel it is a lot more important just to find things that you enjoy and do a bunch of them. Live life on your feet and don't be afraid to invite others to do stuff with you.
choss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing response, if you are from my opposite sex I would be so into you right now.
AAA1374 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand, gaming is a very good bond between people who have something in common. It can enhance a relationship to have that link there- but definitely keep in mind that there are other great hobbies that often times sound better for a date. But don't pretend you don't game if you do though- it just gets awkward.
sidepart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why brewing beer worked out so well for me. I'm the creator and consumer...
Cobertos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what if you do something that takes up a lot of time but can't be done with other people? I feel I can't date because I have a hobby that takes up much of my time. I program a bunch but I can't really share that with someone else unless they have a good grasp on that. I would think it would be the same with woodworking. For both of these you would need to find someone who is actively interested in that hobby to be able to share it effectively. Are there non-consumer hobbies that this just doesn't work with?
mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With that kind of stuff you can dumb it down a bit.
Say you made an app for the Iphone. Don't talk about the code behind it. Talk about what inspired you to make it and the problems you were hoping to solve. Hell pull your phone out and show it off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is just stigma really playing kickball takes no more or less effort then playing a moba. Also why the word intramural is there something more special about playing kickball inside or for an institution vs. regular kickball. As far as I can see this would only give you credibility... as a kickball player... which is really lame. I'd rather tell someone I played dota.
mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no. I just did some intramural kickball at one point in my life. You can do whatever kind of kickball you want!
It isn;t about effort. Its about making interesting experiences for others. If I hit it off with someone I am hanging out with I can invite them out to play kickball with us and we have a nice way to hang out and get to know each other more. To build up shared experiences and have some fun. I can't do the same with Dota 2.
If a person already likes Dota 2 we can bond over that, but I can;t just randomly invite someone to play.
It isn't about effort. It is about being interesting to other people and one way to do that is to include them in your life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dota2smashbros, marioparty, cooking mama. I think it's about age as far as that goes though. The younger the person the more likely they will be willing to try something dealing with technology.Sir_Beret ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice Godspeed You! Black Emperor reference.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hit global elite in csgo, 3 years ago when it meant something
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hit global elite in csgo, 3 years ago when it meant something
jesset77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fine, then I create video games. Or I stream on Twitch. Record let's play's for Youtube? Administrate game servers? GM D&D?
I would say that cracking open Eclipse and hammering out some fresh interactive content for either the Unity or Unreal engines in Java or C# would count as a "production" hobby. You are creating things that other people get to consume.
However, I would challenge you that nothing of this sort is ever going to qualify you as a "babe magnet". :/
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The idea isn't that you are a "babe magnet" but that you are an interesting person who leads a fulfilling life and does something cool.
If you literally made a game in Unity that makes you an interesting person. How many people does a person know who makes games?
The aim is to be a complex individual.
jesset77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:05 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the topic of the thread is "What are some simple things you can do to make yourself more attractive?". I offered these examples to demonstrate how what you may generously call being a complex individual is completely orthogonal to the goal of being found attractive to other people.
And let's be honest: deadbeats with no jobs who can score 1million on guitar hero tend to be found significantly lacking in attractiveness, while deadbeats with no jobs who can pick up a guitar instead of a guitar-shaped controller and actually play covers of at most one or two the songs from the game tend to be found significantly higher on the attractiveness scale.. even though the actual skills involved in either feat are nearly indistinguishable.
In contrast, the gainfully employed and motivated person who actually creates a game like guitar hero rates lower in attractiveness than the hobo with a guitar because reproducing the same song everyone's already heard before strays into courtship territory while creating basically anything computer-related is viewed as staunchly the opposite.
mocylop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:33 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who are you people?
Like honest to god I've gotten I don't know how many replies that are basically repetitions of some "Woe is me for I am nerd and women are only attracted to shallow men".
And being a complex individual who has opinions, and is passionate about something in their lives is attractive. You get to that point by hundreds of tiny decisions you make every fucking day. Talk to someone and talk about what you are passionate about and take an interest in their lives. Invite them to go do something fun.
If you code don't sit there and talk about shit they don't know about. Tailor the conversation to the person. Talk code to coders and ideas and reasons to non-coders.
FFS I talked to a girl at a party about my Warhammer 40K models. She was an artist and I paint my own models. So I talked about how I painted them and the tricks I used and my visual goals. I did not talk to her about how the game of 40K is played. I tailored that conversation to her so that we could share a common interest.
lrginger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that is probably the best GY!BE reference I've ever seen
anonGrasshopper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! This really resonated with me. It's also made me realize that if I want to do more things to add value to my life, to focus less on consumer activities and start engaging in more creative/instigator stuff.
Good stuff - thanks!
Cunhabear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah by saying your hobby is video games you are basically saying "I like to not concentrate on others around me but rather on my own skill that is portrayed digitally on a screen."
I love playing Smash Bros with the bros but it's not because I am trying to teach them a unique experience that requires a decent amount of practice. I just wanna stare at the screen and work on my own personal skill so I can kick their ass!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is true to an extent. You aren't literally creating anything. However, you can create experiences for people.
If I invite someone canoeing I create what is hopefully a fun and memorable experience for them. In a way I am creating fun.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mocylop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm intentionally painting in a very broad brush here. That works but you also aren't gonna meet someone and invite them to play League with you when they aren't a already decent capable at playing League. Whereas it is a lot easier to break down other complicated things to newcomers.
chumothy ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 17:33:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if you're already on the date, you've been deemed attractive enough for a date, so you're farther along than I think OP was asking. Part of dating is finding the right person. It's about sizing each other up for compatibility, it's not about making a sale. If your hobby is video games, and that turns someone off, then you can decide that person may not be right for you.
Additionally, people may not give video games the same weight as other hobbies, because it may be seen as the equivalent to "I like music/movies." Lots of people like those things. If you're really passionate about it, you may be able to express a deeper interest or more active involvement than the average person. And that would make you interesting and attractive to a lot of people.
Moozilbee ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 19:22:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If somebody's less interested in you because you mention "video games" as a hobby, that doesn't necessarily mean that they look down on it/don't think it's a valid way to spend time, it might just mean that they think you must be a bit boring if the only thing you can think of as a hobby is "video games". It's like if a woman said "shopping" was her only hobby. It's not necessarily a bad hobby, it's just that it's not particularly interesting.
THROBBING-COCK ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:29:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After reading this sub thread I'm just glad my girlfriend plays video games too.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:59:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why OP basically said you need to bring more to the table than just "I like video games."
If you have an anecdote of an old school game or something, bring it up. I'm not talking about just beating your friends, but if you can use it to segway into a story about how you got the game you always wanted for your 14th Christmas and then your older brother took it out back and burned it in the trash out of spite, boom. So many potential conversations right there.
You can segway into how you and your brother are best friends now, or ask about their fondest Christmas, or hey, if they like video games too, you can go deeper into that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But video games is massively broad.
Moozilbee ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:11:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is shopping, doesn't make you sound any less boring.
Yuri-Girl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's an issue. If you said you were into speedrunning video games, or you were into competitive video games, or you were into retro video games, that's a bit more interesting. If your hobby is video games, you need to ask yourself what you like about video games and convey that specific aspect, rather than just video games in general.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that might just be the case for everything. For example saying sports is meaningless. Which sports?
Yuri-Girl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yeah. That's exactly what Moozilbee was saying.
BigMax ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:57:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you have to already be on a date before hobbies can make you more attractive. Just having something interesting to say to someone in a conversation can make you more attractive. And if it's a hobby you like, you get the bonus of having something interesting to say, as well as having something that brightens you up when you say it.
For example, "what did you do this weekend?" is a conversation starter that we have all been asked at some point. If you have a hobby you love, saying "I went rock climbing a the most beautiful place!" is a more interesting and attractive answer than "not much, just hung around at home."
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:56:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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BigMax ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:11:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're kind of backing up my point... Maybe you're projecting, but I never said that an interest in good films or literature wouldn't be considered interesting. Having an interest or hobby about something is good, and gives you a great way to engage in small talk while seeming more interesting
chumothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree, but their comment seemed to be focused on what they were going to talk to while they were on a date, so that's what I was responding to.
zman122333 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:34:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is the most important point made so far. You shouldn't try to be something you're not just to meet somebody. You'll live the rest of your life lying to that person and yourself and won't be happy.
ShaolinShade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. The goal of dating is to find a companion who you are compatible with, so there isn't much point in hiding your hobbies and interests because if it's a deal breaker for them, you're much better off finding that out right away.
Own your passions, and if they dislike you for it both of you are better off parting ways anyway. The hope is that you'll find someone who either shares your passions, or is at least cool with them (and, more importantly, who you are as a person. Which really is the bigger factor vs. shared interests anyway)
El_Minadero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, sometimes. With online dating people often go out because you seemed a bit different, but also seem to be on their toes
jicty ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 17:10:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on who the date is with.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:51:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything depends on who the date is with. That's the fun of it.
georgiaokief ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:57:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Talk about whatever interests you. If your relationship is going anywhere they will find out anyway. And it is better to be up front and have someone become interested in the actual you, than for them to find out you are not the "interesting" person you (mis)led them into believing, later on. That doesn't foster trust and wastes both parties time.
jicty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:50:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, I don't get why people lie on dates. The only time that is a good idea is if you are trying for a one night stand. I should know, I am a successful doctor and I have just started training for a nasa space mission.
[deleted] ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 17:28:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly can't really open up with sooo..... Pathfnder or Dungeons and Dragons?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, that's your problem right there. There are far more tabletop RPGs than those two. What if they're really into Mutant Chronicles?
Altair1371 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:13:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, Stars Without Number or GTFO
-Mountain-King- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mutants and Masterminds or riot
THROBBING-COCK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rolemaster.
ryan5w4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A close second to Shadowrun.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even more interesting since I haven't played it.
PrellFeris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or Numenera! :D
chumothy ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 17:35:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pathfinder, obviously.
[deleted] ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 17:38:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even over 5th Edition? I have current campaigns in both and honestly 5e seems much better.
Altair1371 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:13:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've played Pathfinder and DMed 5e. Pathfinder is great, but I still prefer 5e for the simpler mechanics. I'm a role-play first, mechanics second guy though.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:43:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here man playing pathfinder is more difficult than dming a session of 5e lol
Altair1371 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh geez. Just looking at one monster stat table gives me the shivers. I like that 5e drops pretty much every but 6 abilities, HP and AC, and their attacks. That's all you need to know to handle most monsters.
Hyenabreeder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been playing and DMing 3.5 for a few years, and now mostly Pathfinder. I've heard on many occassions that 5e is pretty good, but what's so good about it? Could you tell me what parts of it you like most?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:56:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It removes a lot of situational bonuses/penalties and replaces them with advantage/disadvantage which is rolling 2 d20 and taking the higher for advantage or lower for disadvantage. It makes it faster and simpler. Feats are now much more powerful and rare they are taken instead of a stat increase. They define the character.
Another great part is backgrounds which are mostly roleplay related histories of the character and what they did before they were a adventurer. It grants some roleplay boon and gives you skills.
Hyenabreeder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neat, thanks! I had heard of the advantage/disadvantage before but didn't know it was anything like this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The way I've heard it described is that unless you started with it 5e is everyone's second favourite edition. It's an overall much more simplified and streamlined experience which is both why a lot of people (Like me) love it and a lot of people (Understandably) don't.
Hyenabreeder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps when I'm done DMing my current campaign I'll try out 5e for the next campaign. I've just heard so many people support it that I've gotten curious.
Tshirt_Addict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try DMing Rifts. Damn you, Siembieda!
TheFreshOne ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:03:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeerds!
chumothy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:05:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, they found us. Run, /u/Ender-of-Bart!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:10:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go on without me I'll slow them down!
Andrew_Squared ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:38:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Roll for initiative.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:42:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got a 13. No modifiers.
Fyodor007 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:45:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I attack the darkness
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:46:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cast magic missile.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's super effective! Darkness fainted!
Tshirt_Addict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where's the Mountain Dew?
chumothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No way, man, I'm not letting you hog all those experience points!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just let me go gandalf on them and whore some EXP this 1 time.
MannyStillwagon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Joke's on you. Gandalf died and had to reroll. Of course the unimaginative jerk just built the same character again. At least he rolled higher Int the second time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah man he got the boss kill and leveled up.
folderol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother said that to me the other day. I was asked if I'd started playing a game by a friend. I said in a really drab unemotional voice, "Yeah I started the campaign last night," as if I'd just started some inevitable chore. He just said, "fucking neeeerds!!". We are both in our 40's.
Andrew_Squared ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:38:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On December 23rd, I dove back into the world of pen and paper RPG's with a reunion of highschool friends after a near 15 year break. Jumping from 3.5e to 5e is going to be interesting.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a lot simpler I think you will like it. Moves a lot faster and more fun less math.
Diredoe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My introduction to D&D was 4th ed, and while I enjoyed it (at first... it gets awful unwieldy awful quick), my friends who played every edition of D&D from the beginning has said that 5th is hands-down the best.
As one friend put it, "It's like 3.5 but done right!"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me it'll be easier then jumping from 5e to 3.5 would be.
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was mostly teasing. I've not gone past 5. I'm only doing Pathfinder at the moment. I've been thinking about getting into other RPGs, but I just don't have the time right now. Stupid real life.
DrNewblood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there an online resource for 5e like there is for Pathfinder? I might be joining a 5th edition campaign but I know little about it relative to Pathfinder lol
Adamsoski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:25:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google 5e Basic Rules - it gives you enough to run the game for a couple of levels with limited options, the other commenter doesn't know what they're talking about.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly no not yet they shit everything down.
DrNewblood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I see. I'll have to check every once in a while, thanks for saving me some trouble, though!
dongsquad420420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres a nifty android phone app for 5e character sheets and one for DM tools. Can't run a campaign on 'em but they help organize things. Fifth Edition Character Sheet and Fifth Edition DM Tools. By Walter Kammerer. They're very useful but they do get taken down every now and then
genapsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just started a 5th Ed game myself and I enjoyed pf much more. Have to see what expansions come out though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How come?
genapsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just my opinion, though i find that the the current edition falls flat somewhere between the streamlined style of 2nd and the simple and easy mechanics of 4th ed. Just to me its that everything works decidedly, while i like a little bit of interpretation flexibility. All separate they are fine parts of a good roleplaying game, I just don't like them together.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have found a few people who say the same. What parts don't you like together?
Andernerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought at first, but then I realized how restrictive character creation is in 5th. Perhaps I just need more advance rulebooks.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:43:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How so?
Andernerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are so many feats, spells, archetypes, etc. in Pathfinder that you can build some pretty ridiculous characters. My last character built in Pathfinder was a level 8 wizard who specialized in grappling, and he was actually pretty scary. When he has the chance to buff himself before a fight he has a CMB of 21, often allowing him to take down things a size category above him (which with enlarge person is very big). His shirt of immolation also did damage whenever he was grappling, and I think his hair could even grapple someone while he was grappling someone else. Good luck doing that in 5e.
That having been said, 5e has it's benefits also. I just find it's character creation to be restrictive.
atsu333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I personally find the addition of class archetypes to continually bring more to the table in character creation in Pathfinder. However, I'm giving 5E a chance, my PHB arrives tomorrow, and then I just need to find a game to join...
Of course I also feel like my love of Pathfinder comes from initially learning in a 3.5 environment, then seeing the light of pathfinder about 5 years in, as well as the free SRD that contains (at least almost) everything released in the books themselves.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope you like it man!
Rockhardabs1104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From looking at the Core Rulebook for 5e, I'm not sure I like the advantage/disadvantage system which seems to be an integral part of the edition. It seems to me like most of the time it just means you'll always pass these rolls and fail those rolls. Granted I've never played 5e so feel free to prove me wrong.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not at all it works out to be about a + or -5 its far from guaranteed you will pass or fail. A weak skill will still have a high chance of failing even with advantage in some cases.
AReluctantRedditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's better about 5e? I've only ever played Pathfinder.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a lot faster combat take far less time, enemies stay relevant for longer due to bounded accuracy a lot of the simple +1 to this and +1 to that have been removed. Situational bonuses are instead advantage/disadvantage based. You have background of what your character did before adventuring and that helps some roleplay.
Feats are much larger combining 2 or 3 pathfinder type feats and they are an optional thing instead of mandatory. They are taken instead of a stat increase, each feat however has so much impact it defines your character.
AReluctantRedditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't sound too bad. I'll have to try it out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a lot of people like it.
-ArthurDent- ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:00:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come on, D&D 5E is so much easier to play, and so much more fun!
chumothy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:20:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That comment, coupled with that username, makes me think you're super fun.
-ArthurDent- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I identify most with Arthur in the Guide, which probably puts me squarely in the "not quite as fun as Ford or Zaphod, but at least a bit more fun than Marvin" category.
Yeti_Poet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:04:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Philistine.
chumothy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:21:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know.
Lugiawolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scrubs. 2E 4 LYFEEE
Teive ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:48:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree! Teaching someone tabletop is totally a unique situation!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:49:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alright I will keep that in mind for the next date I never get.
Teive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact! My name is actually Bart
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:36:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously have nothing against you. Besides wanting to end you rightly.
Its just a nickname a friend gave me :p
BizarroBizarro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just use something like this as your tinder pic. Set for life bro.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:42:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They see me rollin my d20
jaybusch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if those fail, just bring out your hugging pillow. That's sure to start a conversation.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
yumcake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're otherwise an attractive person to the date, Pathfinder or D&D in and of itself can be pretty interesting hobbies to discuss with someone. Vin Diesel played D&D, and you can be sure he's slain plenty of pussy in his life. People are drawn to confidence. I'm pretty certain he wouldn't talk about his time with the game, or himself in a self-effacing manner, and he's got the social skills to talk about it like a normal person who loves a pasttime, rather than an obsessive person who's oblivious to whether or not the other person is interested or would prefer to change the topic.
Or take Jeff Cannata. The guy's extremely passionate about boardgaming, but he's also got the rest of his shit together. Sociable, happy with himself, and well-groomed. He's also an example of the kind of person who'd certainly be able to explain Pathfinder to a stranger without putting someone off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude if you keep with that line your entire life, eventually, you will meet a fine lady who can rock your world in ad&d.. and then she will diss you for a higher level wizard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Psh like I am going back to thaco. Not a chance 3rd edition and up is the only way to live.
milky228 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That kind of question is how you end up with a 30 minute lecture on why you should be playing PBTA.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PBTA?
LucubrateIsh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:54:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're never going to get girls with lines like that.
You should ask "Apocalypse or Dungeon World?"
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do I look like a table top hipster?
LucubrateIsh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:19:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently you are more the walmart of tabletop, sorry.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:11:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fedora is strong with this one.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:00:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it is. Because if the person you're on a date with vehemently hates video games you are going to have a bad time.
KingsleyVoices ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:09:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um... Yes it is. If video games were my primary hobby I'd be open about that. If the date I'm on isn't accepting of it then, then that's a good thing for me. Better I learn that sooner than later.
ManiacalShen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you might discover she likes games, too! Like a zillion of us do.
I can't get over the generalization or assumption that women don't game (though I'm not accusing you of that). It's so weird to me.
Skoma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
While I agree to some extent, in my experience you can have virtually any hobby (within reason, animal torture is a hard sell) and have a good conversation about it as long as you are passionate about it and can explain it in a way that makes them see why you enjoy it so much.
For example: I used to LOVE playing video games with my little brother as a kid. Most of the time he was a pain in the ass and I couldn't stand him following me around all the time, but we really bonded over old games like Mario Kart and Zelda. As we got older and moved away, gaming has been a great way for me to stay in touch with him and old friends who might otherwise have fallen completely out of touch. It doesn't hurt that it's SO much fun --way better than tagging each other on Facebook or talking about our boring Tuesday on Skype. With just a computer and the internet we can all be together for a few hours, playing through crazy stories or just goofing off. It's almost like we never moved apart. That connection is really important to me.
You can talk about admiring the work that goes into game design and how your interests fall in line with that, or storytelling or music, comparing it to great films or composers, show them how gaming has become a real experience.
Why DO you game/ Even if it's because you have no friends you can spin that in your favor lol.
killermoose25 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh that depends on the girl , my fiance loves video games, it's one thing we talked about early in the relationship
Sandy_Emm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself, man. I have a crush on this guy at my school and the few times that we talked we takes about tv shows and he mostly talked about video games. I could listen to boys talk ardently about their passions, whatever they may be, for hours. I want to know you. If video games are important to you, then tell me.
felldestroyed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saw a profile on tinder earlier "if you play video games, don't even try" to which I thought upon swiping right "How easily can I hide the fact that I play video games occasionally?"
dmbrandon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bad advice. Be yourself
HelloGuysIAmNewHere ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:47:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah or you could have hobbies like every woman on the planet
"My hobbies are netflix, shopping, eating, drinking, hanging out with my friends and traveling!"
nowthatsaname ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:04:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those aren't hobbies. They are in fact just pointing out that they are alive in 2016.
TheRedComet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Therein lies the frustration of looking for interesting dating profiles, most girls just list off things like this as interests. They probably feel the same when I say I'm into video games though.
Kabufu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:09:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the worst are the ones who write "Too many to list!" and then write none. Like that's cute or endearing somehow.
At least when someone writes "I like video games" at least you can ask, "Which video games?" It's not a great conversation, but at least it's something. The "Too many to list!" response gives the sender no hooks to start a conversation.
TheRedComet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Thankfully there's fewer of those. The most frustrating is when I find someone who is very cute but all they have listed is an interest in movies, tv, cooking, and the outdoors. And then a generic list of common popular movies and shows as their favorites. It feels really hard to dsicuss TV shows in an interesting fashion, for example. There's nothing to hook onto for an introductory message.
This is, like, most cute girls.
frostfromfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look for intellectuals instead if you're doing online dating. I have plenty of female friends who are not ugly who are into specific types of literature, the arts, and actually going out and doing things (hiking & going to concerts mostly). Yeah, they're not bubbly and they're a bit introverted, but worth talking to versus chicks with generic interests.
trouty ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:19:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It shouldn't be frustrating. Descriptions like you mentioned save you the time spent eventually reaching the realization, "shit... literally the only thing this girl/guy does is sit on the couch and watch movies." Does not sound like a relationship worth pursuing, imo.
TheRedComet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but now I've browsed a ton of profiles and have no messages sent. I'm getting nowhere. Realistically in-person chemistry is more important than any of these things and you can't tell that from their profile.
trouty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:41:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely true. For my own anecdote, I've been in a relationship for two years with a girl I met on tinder. I was on the app for almost a week before talking to her and found myself saying the same shit to everyone and everything getting depressingly formulaic. Her description read something like "accountant/yoga/student" - I didn't read a ton into it. But instead I skipped the usual spiel and just asked her to meet me for a drink that evening. Long story short, we moved in together a few months later and have spent very few days apart since.
I guess I was only able to try that approach just once (lol), but it was way more enjoyable than texting each other stupid things for several days before actually meeting them in person and realizing they're a dud. Maybe shits changed, but I'd think it's best to use the chat feature for dating websites to confirm a) not a robot, b) not a serial rapist, and c) not a complete douche (tinder pick-up artist, etc.)
For the record, my description was something like:
Yes, I pulled the height card. Guilty as charged, lol. It worked.. or did it fail miserably if the ultimate goal of tinder is the one-night-stand?
HundRetter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:25:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, I'm a woman and it's generally dead pan when I say outside of work (which is with dogs) that I have an amateur dog sled team. Almost seems like I'd be better off with "I watch a lot of Netflix?"
motherinlawstongue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, dog sledding is awesome. You have just met some crappy women. Good news is that you have puppies, so there is no justification for sadness.
HundRetter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:07:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crappy men. And here I thought it would be a good date.
chumothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's so cool, though!
HundRetter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I THINK SO TOO. Oh well.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:04:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I see you are also familiar with online dating.
rezachi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Travel can definitely be a hobby. I do it for both work and fun, you just have to make sure that you go out and do something more interesting than "I sat in my hotel because I had to do something in the morning."
OscarPistachios ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With the exception of Netflix, all of that you listed are generally social activities with other people. And please don't defend using steam chat or ventrillo/teamspeak as social activities
richalex2010 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Socializing isn't a hobby. Hobbies can include socializing, but they are not in and of themselves socializing.
OscarPistachios ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, but the act of being involved in a relationship is inherently social.
ProfessorProfessersn ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:05:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All better hobbies than fucking video games
Mybugsbunny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:12:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think having sexual relations with video games is a grest hobby
insolace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is your goal to find someone with similar interests or to trick someone who doesn't share them into liking you?
Spreadsheeticus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you play Magic: The Gathering, be sure to shave your beard below halfway down your neck, and keep it tidy. While you're at it, be sure to work out regularly and maintain a healthy body weight.
Or you could just wear a belt and get rid of the fedora. Either way, make sure you don't look like the stereotype.
myotherotherusername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you not bring video games up on a date? If video games are actually a big part of your life, don't lie about it! I'm having trouble understanding why you'd pretend to be somebody else on a date. That's just setting yourself up for failure.
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. While programming is nerdy my wife likes that I do it because she can brag about how I am smart (which I'm not, I'm terrible at math and she is way smarter) and can tell people projects I have worked on that are a big deal. I'm also into mentoring other people as well, so I teach a few hours a week for free because I like it.
I also mountain bike and kayak a lot.
Those hobbies work because they have value. My late night gaming addiction does nothing. However my interest in music does since I am a go to for all of our friends for new music.
Exodan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feh, first date with my girlfriend of 3 years had talk of Halo, Final Fantasy and what MMO's we had played. Speak for yourself, mate.
Trevmiester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless the girl is really into games. Yes, actual gamer girls do exist, it's just that the attractive gamer guys usually snag them up. Really, the best way to be initially attractive to someone is to be visually attractive. If you're visually attractive, those gamer girls will actually talk to you and hear what you have to say and see how attractive you are on the inside.
Of course there are exceptions, but for the most part that's how the world works.
__Peak__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just started dating a girl.
Our 4th date was playing League together
Hindu_Wardrobe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Videogames are so mainstream now, I really don't think that the majority of women would scoff at it.
addama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that if you love video games, that is exactly the time to bring it up. If it's important to you, and it turns them off, maybe that's not a good fit. Either you'll have to give up your favorite hobby, or you'll just be sitting around unknowingly in limbo until they get frustrated with it and you have to deal with it in a much more involved situation.
CAFFEINE_ENEMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You kidding me? My boyfriend and I love gaming together. Fucking hatless scrub is almost on my level too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You dating the wrong people? I mean... in my relationship, playing Mario Kart IS a date. We're on the more casual end of the gamer scale, but if someone thinks a hobby you're really into is crap, they're not the person for you. I mean... as long as gaming doesn't interfere with everyday things like bathing, paying your bills... it's cool.
goandgetthem123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Disagree... I'm also weird and think it's really odd when guys don't have a console at their place. It makes me very suspicious.
carlythesniper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I brought it up on the first date... but I knew my now-SO was into them as well.
Haleljacob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure bring it up if you want but don't try to pretend it's a hobby
KaiserPhil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bring this up on every date I go on. Most women don't seem to give a shit. They may not be into it, but they don't care. A lot of men like video games.
ianme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no reason not to bring up your love for video games... if you enjoy it, talk about it. If you're going to date this person, they should know you like video games. If they blow you off because you like video games then... on the next.
DeathbyHappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how you say it and how she responds. Whenever I'm asked what I'm into, I rattle off a short list of things. Whichever one peaks her curiosity is the one I go more in depth with.
If she isn't receptive to videogames but you keep going on about them, then it isn't gonna end well.
If videogames are your only hobby, then I'd suggest putting an effort into finding some more. That way you not only have more options in your free time, you have more avenues to connect over and more interesting conversation starters.
dssx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've brought up video games on dates. If you're embarrassed about yourself, that's unattractive. I unabashedly will say I play video games. I'm not proud of it nor am I ashamed. I love gaming just as I also love hiking or playing sports or whatever.
Also, because I love gaming, and because I imagine who I date may end up being who I marry, I want to know ASAP if they're gonna give me grief about gaming in my free time.
EZ_2_Amuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, if I'm interested in someone and they aren't interested in gaming, that's a deal breaker for me.
smokemarajuana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is if your date likes video games.
markevens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you are being honest and are interested in a partner that also likes video games.
kristianstupid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that is the case, you're on a date with the wrong person anyway.
alexisaacs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bring up games on dates. But I also include my other hobbies. I make music. I write fiction. I cook. I try and fail miserably at stand up.
If you have literally just one hobby, expand your horizons. Do you work and go to school for 70+ hours a week? No? Then go do things
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? You can bring video games up. Just don't linger on them if your date can't relate or isn't interested.
If you just assume some topics are more boring than others then you might be making your date worse or less exciting than it could have been.
That said every date is different. You just have to feel it out.
catjuggler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that really a problem that not all people have compatible interests?
prennis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If you love video games, why wouldn't you want to mention that on a date? If your date also loves video games, your love of video games will probably only make you seem more attractive to them. Unless you aren't interested in getting into a relationship, you have to be honest about who you are, or else you'll find yourself in a relationship with a person who doesn't know (or worse, doesn't care) who you really are.
stufff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. I like video games. I'm going to spend a lot of my free time playing video games, reading about games news, listening to game podcasts, going to game events. Ideally and historically my mate would join me in these activities but at a bare minimum needs to be aware and tolerant of them. I have too many friends who aren't "allowed" to play much any more.
If you game enough to call it a hobby, your better off being upfront about it in the long run.
NeatAnecdoteBrother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He means productive hobbies, not entertainment only hobbies
FinallyNewShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes you should, you should be yourself. If your hobby is video games don't be afraid to mention it because the person you want to be with is cool with it and the person you don't want to be with wont be. Why are you trying to win over women who won't like who you are?
InvadedByMoops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can say you enjoy video games, but if that's all you enjoy you're probably boring. Pick up another hobby or two, singing, pottery, crafting, guitar, woodworking, hiking, tennis, dancing, whittling, whatever. Most people aren't super impressed if your personality literally does not exist outside of video games. This applies to women too, nobody wants to date that weird chick at work who doesn't go outside because she's sitting in the same spot she was 14 hours ago playing LoL. They are much more interested in the girl who plays an hour or two per day but also loves to go camping, paints, and plays racquetball. She's much more well-rounded.
Of course, two people who love nothing more than spending 16 hours straight playing games might be perfectly happy together, but if that's what you're hoping for you have an extremely tiny pool of potential mates.
Specken_zee_Doitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where does photography come in on that?
I've had photos purchased by national corporations and top posts in the sfw-porn network but when I say I like photography it's invariably the, "That's nice dear" treatment.
DemeaningSarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to be honest here.
If your hobby is video games, fucking love it.
HOWEVER,
You better be damn fucking good at video games. So good, that you can do your dissertation on that video game. If you're like, "I play cuz fun." Sorry, can't do it. But lets take Counter Strike for example. If you can sit down, draw out the map, draw in set pieces to optimize crossfire, discuss rotation strategies. That's awesome as hell. Or if you play quake. You better know when all the map power ups are. Or that thing with fighters where you're looking at frame rates to block/strike (or something...I don't really play fighters)......sick as fuck man!
But if it's like, "I like playing because it's fun? Not interesting. "I'm having fun," isn't an interesting topic.
Jeanpuetz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think video games are fine as a hobby, but it's simply not a very interesting one. The majority of the younger population are at least casual gamers. Plus, it's a rather lazy hobby. You're not doing much besides sitting there and pressing some buttons. I think a hobby should either be something interesting or something physically or mentally demanding (yes, yes, I know that video games can be mentally demanding. But that's usually not why most people play them) - at best both. For example, soccer isn't really interesting, but it's something that keeps you fit. It's a sign that you're probably in somewhat good shape. Or take something like lockpicking - it's not terribly exhausting, and every fat slob can do it, but it's something unusual. Way cooler than video games if you want to bring it up in a conversation.
nahfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man. I have a few hobbies but one of them is fish tanks and Aquascaping. That's one I never bring up unless others do and I don't go into it how much. I may say "oh man I love fish tanks" if they're mentioned then if someone chimes in I can tell them more in depth. Shit, even when people come over and see my bitching underwater forest and say they like it I just go "yep, me too" that said I do have other hobbies which arent so weird
Lanoir97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, messaged a tinder match approximately 36-48 hours over 5 days, said I play video games in my spare time. She hasn't said anything since, and that was 3 days ago.
krokenlochen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try being into mechanical keyboards. That hasn't gotten me any dates.
CPTJackieDaniels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. Sometimes it can score big points if you're looking for a fellow gamer. I wore my "Old School" tee shirt with Clyde on it to my first date with someone I was set up with.
But I knew he was a gamer and I wanted someone who wouldn't judge me (he totally does) for loudly excaiming when my Pokeball didn't stay closed or some boss kicked my ass for the upteenth time because I'm out of potions.
Nearly three years later and we game side by side. So maybe not totally mention it if you don't know the other person well. But it can be a good way to bond.
Knot_My_Name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I kinda feel its exactly the kind of thing you bring up on a date. Me for example, if you like video games, you're like 50% there, I already have the next 3 dates planned out in my head. However some girls (crazy ones) really despise video games, and you don't want to end up with someone who is gonna bitch at you every time you wanna have a little fun.
memicoot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a good hobby!
enarc13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you feel ashamed of your hobbies. I love video games, so I always brought it up on dates because it's going to come up at some point. If I'm on a first date with a girl and her response to me loving video games is something along the lines of "aren't video games for children?" or "video games are stupid" then I know not to waste any more time. Eventually I found a girl who also loves them, and 2.5 years later we're still together and currently playing Lego Marvel Super Heroes together.
The exception to the rule here is if you're just trying to find someone to fuck, then by all means say whatever it takes.
freethemind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
unless you make youtube gaming video's and get 10million + views a month, which is around $30K/month in income. Then again, i wouldn't mention that either....
st_claire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is when you date the right people.
ShiplessOcean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're a girl
emp_omelettedufromag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you know what. I proved myself the opposite. I've always been a huge gamer, and yeah, it's not the subject you'd bring in a date right?
I'm now also competing in gaming. I'm traveling for tournaments, helping run tournaments and even host streams. And to my biggest surprise this prove very interesting to a lot of girls I met. They were simply curious about someone passionate about what he does. They would even watch the videos just out of curiosity. Someone dedicated and passionate is cool. You just have to know how to present it.
pumpkin_iron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:25 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
saying you play video games as a hobby is like saying you watch TV as a hobby
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:13 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
may i respectfully ask why?
ffxivdia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, that's the #1 thing I look for, next to having a job and not be creepy. Alas, most of the time it's only 2 out of 3.
KurayamiShikaku ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:15:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why!?
If you love video games, you should absolutely bring it up, especially if you're looking for a partner who also likes gaming.
What you might want to avoid is something like "yeah, on weekends I roll out of bed and play WoW for 12 straight hours without bathing," or only talking about video games.
I feel like a lot of relationships get off to a bad start precisely because people try to hide things and present an idea of themselves versus who they actually are. I think Hitch had a nice quote about this with maybe not showing the whole picture, but showing the real you.
I mean, ask yourself - if you really love gaming in your free time, are you going to be happy with a partner who despises it, or thinks less of you for it?
elvendude ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:19:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your date is put off by you bringing up video games, is this someone you want to date?
Personally, if I can't talk about video games with a date, it's going to be a very short date, as we're not going to be compatible.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:57:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any person I would have to hide my interests from is not someone I want to spend any amount of time with in the first place.
snap_wilson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:03:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it is. Look, you get into a relationship, she's going to find out you play video games. It looks worse if you don't own up to it. If she's going to judge you for it, then you want to get that out of the way as well.
canondocre ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:05:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
really? ok. I have yet to meet a girl who looks down on this. I'm 33 and am swimming in pussy.
aredditgroupthinker ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:07:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is honesty a hobby?
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:58:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been really into craisins recently
redthunda69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like masturbating and shrimp quite a bit.
rogerhandrail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, the King Dork speaks! And he has the worst hobby of all time... Biking.
mgreegree ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:16:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you don't have any? I haven't ever had any interests, hobbies, or passions.
catlast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No interests at all? I'd suggest just trying some different creative projects, anything. You'll have to find that passion or hobby. I feel as though I don't as well, but it's just a lack of motivation for me.
mgreegree ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:17:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None at all. Never have. I've tried loads of stuff, both creative and just normal activities. Never been the creative type, more logical than creative. It's worth mentioning it's likely caused by the depression I've had for over 15 years. Or maybe the depression is caused by not having anything worthwhile or enjoyable in life. Who knows. All I know is I've done a ton of crap and none of it has ever tickled my fancy. It's come to the point where I honestly do not believe that every human has some hobby or passion out there that they just haven't discovered yet. Some of us just don't have that out there.
deejaymikeyg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:52:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try cooking. Cooking is kind of science based and women love a guy who can cook (and vice versa)! It doesn't take much to learn basics (googling recipes, or browsing cooking subreddits) and is very impressive. Or maybe astronomy? Those are also very cool hobbies
mgreegree ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:49:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Took both cooking and astronomy about 8 years ago in high school, I did not enjoy them. I feel like I've done something at least closely related to every hobby and passion out there, and none of its enjoyable. Sure, some things are better than others. I'd rather race go karts than pick up dog crap and mow the lawn. But racing go karts and things like that are no where near enjoyable enough to warrant the misery required from working to survive and afford those things. Nothing is worth it.
Romanophile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I've tried to find other hobbies, but all I really enjoy are video games. And, like other posters have said, it's not even a "real" hobby.
mexicanmuscel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever tried getting into the r/c or quad copter crowd? As a video gamer a lot of the experience easily translates as controls are fairly similar to console racing and flight Sim games. Not to mention you receive satisfaction from building your own high performance quad copter or r/c vehicle.
Sikktwizted ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:29:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do depression and anxiety count?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:53:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you talking about tying flies for fishing? My boyfriend is just starting to get into fly fishing now, and tying his own flies. It makes him happy, which makes me happy.
tommysmuffins ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:31:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For heaven's sake, yes. Nothing is more boring than a SO who can only speak about The Bachelor, clothes, and work gossip. I don't care if you like politics, chemistry, programming, horticulture, stamp collecting, gaming, Japanese literature, or technology. Just be interested in something and tell me all about it.
FromFluffToBuff ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:09:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
... that don't involve playing video games all day. Make sure the hobby you choose allows you to develop a useful skill (like painting or playing an instrument), gets you outside the house (like hiking or fishing), or gets you "out there" with other people (like golf or community theatre).
Nothing wrong whatsoever with video games occasionally (some people have a beer to unwind, some play Fallout or something) but as a former "gamer" do NOT make games your defining hobby. The perception is getting better but video games are still mainly seen as the hobby of choice for the socially awkward or those who simply don't try in life. 90% of the gamers I knew fell into one of those camps... and as an adult, it's unfortunately the second one (video games require little effort to master compared to learning how to play the piano or learning the techniques to oil paint - video games are an easy vehicle, like alcoholism, to achieve a certain level of satisfaction).
But mainly, all those hours spent mashing buttons and clicking the mouse can be used to develop other skills... I could have mastered several instruments, gotten in awesome shape and written some killer short stories in all those hours wasted in front of the computer and television.
If you're wanting to date and someone's top hobby is video games... well, as a former gamer, run for the hills. If they aren't discussing video games they are the most boring people ever.
EDIT: And yes, I understand that some people can make a living playing video games - I get that. But for the millions of players, only the top 1% ever make it to that level. It's no different from sports like hockey or football so get off your high horses.
Fiurilli ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:14:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does the hobby have to be a skill? One of my hobbies is watching movies and I enjoy that the most when I have someone I can have a discussion with about the movie (what it did well, what it did bad and the like).
Also another hobby I enjoy is playing boardgame just because I like the strategical thinking that most games have and the heavy social aspect that comes with it, am I now domehow a lesser person because I don't go canoeing or something?
Someone has to have a hobby they are passionate about, it doesn't have to be a skill or whatever.
majinspy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:22:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody wants to say the obvious: outdoorsiness is cool. The romantic idea of strong independent man confidently mastering the outdoors is manly and hot. That's why I'm getting into it. Nobody wants to her about my awesome shadowrun game even though it was much more mentally taxing than walking a trail.
stratys3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:39:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the post I just read from the top:
https://np.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/3z8o75/why_dont_men_get_as_much_of_a_thrill_over/cykm7bm?context=3
roma258 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cool, but you also learn useful lifeskills. How to survive a cold night outside. How to orient yourself in unfamiliar surroundings. Knowing you can hike 20 miles with a 50 lb backpack, if necessary. How to prepare a quick, nutrient rich meal. I'm not a hardcore survivalist, but shit can go wrong and it's pretty useful if you have some idea of how to respond.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:10:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Painting is kind of useful, but playing an instrument really is just as useless and uninteresting as playing video games 90% of the time. The piano is probably the one instrument that you might get an excuse to play, without having a significant chance of it making your date like you less. Playing a guitar kind of works, but only if you're charismatic enough that you didn't actually need the guitar.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the skill itself that leaves an impression (unless you manage to have an excuse to demonstrate it.) It's the fact that you spent the time doing something that is constructive.
Plovesa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point is how is it more constructive than learning to play a video game?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:18:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can make something new that's easily appreciated by most people. You paint something, most people can see it and know that you spent time developing that skill. The closest you can come to that in games is maybe Minecraft art.
Also, games are much easier to learn. It can take thousands of hours to get really good at some creative skills. If you're spending thousands of hours on a game you're either grinding, exploring the game world, or playing with friends. And you really have to be a gamer to appreciate any of those.
Plovesa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd have to appreciate art as well to see its qualities. Granted the the entry level may be easier for something like art. People are just too quick judging games as there are games out there that are not easy to master by any means and require the a big amount of effort and excercise to perfect.
-Moonchild- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:32 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love video games but playing an instrument is way more useful, creative and constructive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:20 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Debatable. It'll depend a lot on what video games you play. There's a pretty big difference between what you get out of playing a beat 'em up compared to what you get out of playing strategy games.
-Moonchild- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:30 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm well Aware of this. I was obsessed with sc2 for the first 4 years it was out. It's immensely technical and the pro level is super impressive but it's not as creative as an instrument and I'm general not as useful or constructive
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:51 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think instruments are inherently creative. It's certainly possible to be creative with an instrument, and they may attract a lot of creative people, but if all you actually do is play by notes composed by someone else, there's no imagination or creativity and barely even any thought involved. Creativity certainly helps, but it's not necessary and you could play an instrument every day for your whole life and not gain anything from it other than technical skill with that instrument.
Playing soccer or League of Legends or whatever at even the most amateur level requires far more creativity than simply playing an instrument does, because at least then you can't predict exactly what's going to happen and have to spend much of your time improvising and adapting to changing situations.
-Moonchild- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:28 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In general they are far more than a sport because even the strictist music teacher will force students to learn improvisation. It's by far the most encouraged part of being a musiciann. In soccer and esports you're assigned to a rigid position and are mainly concerned with fulfilling a certain aspect. You don't have e to be creative to be a goalie, you just have to pay attention.
Not true at all. There's multiple studies showing that even rudimentary emulation of musical phrasings and songs will improve a multitude of cognitive abilities. Drums, piano and classocal guitar in particular require separate syncopation of limbs which improves mental abilities. Hand eye coordination alone drastically increases let alone the improvement of your ear at distinguishing notes and sounds. There's a vast amount people learn sub consciously from playing anything at a decent level on instruments.
Ehh not really. At anything other than a VERY high level these things are dominated by a repetitive metagame. You do the right builds in StarCraft and league and you can get high ranked with a lot of ease. You don't have to be creative until you get to the pro level, and even then many just exploit a meta game, its hardly creative. The creative people are the ones who change the metagame, which is rare
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:53 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The opposition isn't going to behave the way you want or expect them to. Even if your task is clearly defined, actually figuring out how to do that task is going to require a lot of improvisation. In sports you have an opponent who is actively trying to sabotage your plan. You may not need much creativity in deciding on an overall strategy, but second to second you're largely improvising.
-Moonchild- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:50 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
in starcraft and league, 99% of the time it doesn't matter. You can get REALLY high ranked in starcraft (the most technical esport that exists) by using one build effectively. at high level you're correct, otherwise it doesn't really matter. Strong macro or micro mechanics can pull you to a win in most situations besides surprise cheese builds.
Also i don't really get this argument's validity over musicianship as playing with other musicians is just as random, even if playing a song you all know. Sometimes it's more random. Improvisation is a MASSIVE part of being a musician, you're always conscious of what your bandmates are doing.
In Sports and esports the VAST majority of the time you can break your opponents plan down to 2 or 3 possible outcome. In starcraft a single scout will tell you what kind of game is going to follow and you can choose a pre-determined build to play from there. Same goes for soccer, formation is largely key - you just have to be consioucs of your position and what the ball does but because everyone is assigned a position you won't be thinking or doing much for half the game.
eg. a defender won't be doing much when your team has the ball and is on the attack, a striker wont be at the home net when the opponents team is trying to score - thats the defenses job. On the other hand, you're ALWAYS actively doing something in music when playing live. if you miss a note the band will respond or at least notice (good members may even improvise and save you - and you should respond in turn). Playing music in a band situation at a decent level is incredibly difficult.
I've played esports to a pretty decent level (and play with aspiring pros who are incredibly high ranked), played team sports for local teams and played in a local band. The band situation required way more thinking in general. You're definitely underselling the improvisational aspects of playing an instrument. Besides, like i said earlier, there's countless studies that show how active the brain is when playing music, even if you're rigidly performing a piece of music. drums and piano especially require the minds seperation of limbs
meatduck12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if you don't like doing any of those things, you are still going to be no more happier in the end.
FromFluffToBuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. I'm just throwing out examples that have made me happy... for someone else, it could taking up archery, hunting, or baseball. The world is your oyster :)
Moebiuzz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:56:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So useful...
stratys3 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:38:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the other post articulated it better: You want a hobby that's active instead of passive. You want a hobby that involves doing something other than just consuming.
JigglyWiggly_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Painting is definitely useful if you take it semi seriously and not for relaxation
You can quickly get your ideas down and make them look rendered enough to be presentable etc.
redghotiblueghoti ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:27:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also it's much easier to get paid being a good or even just alright painter than it is to get paid for being someone who is good at video games.
Mercarcher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I've gotten into board games. A lot easier to get new people into. They come I. Thinking boring games like monopoly and come out super excited after playing games like King of Tokyo, codenames, and 7 wonders.
FromFluffToBuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Board games are the best :)
paper_liger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to play video games a ton, mostly counter strike and other first person shooters. I was in a gaming clan and played competitively for a while.
I also play a bunch of instrument, sing, dance, oil paint, sculpt, make furniture, throw pottery and a dozen other more socially acceptable hobbies. Learning to navigate Dust II by memory, to control your spray, or to hit a headshot from across the map are just as hard as centering clay on the pottery wheel or accurate placing notes of color on an oil painting.
Those other skills are really only more impressive because we've been taught that they are more impressive. Also, it is partially because there is no team flashing or teabagging or 12 year olds fucking your mother when you are in front of an easel. But mostly the cultural baggage thing.
bleakraven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fucked because my main hobby is gaming and my work is game development. I... could... talk about programming and 3D modelling instead as my hobbies?
FromFluffToBuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, I never though about one's work and hobby possibly being the same thing lol. Talking about the processes of work (like the ones you listed) is more interesting than hearing someone go on and on about all the stuff they did in Fallout - not everyone has the knowledge of programming and modelling and that sounds cool :)
Not sure about you, but if my hobby and work were pretty much the same thing I would be going crazy haha.
bleakraven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a little different, at work I'm stuck doing one task. At home I get to play and immerse myself and sometimes be amazed at what others have done and I appreciate that. There's so much to do, so many times I go "Why didn't I think of this? This is awesome!".
But it's still only one hobby/interest, and that can get old fast. Even if I'm talking about something more different like Virtual Reality or using biometric feedback on games.
WE_ARE_THE_MODS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, no. Playing the piano is fucking easy compared to games like Dota, Starcraft etc.
Source: not even a pianist, and i can play a decent amount of piano just based on general music theory knowledge
Just because you played CoD or the FOTM game for years doesn't mean that's how it is for everyone.
-Moonchild- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:10 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really depends. Playing piano and playing StarCraft at a passable level are pretty much the same (anybody can get to gold in a few days, just like anybody can play basic songs in a few days)
Playing piano at a really high level is more impressive and harder though, not to mention far more creative. Try play some Bach on piano or compose a technical piece of music. Being a matter pianist takes well over 10 years or sometimes far longer. The best SC players in the world became the best in a few years(most before they turn 23) Still incredibly skilled but there's a ceiling there that doesn't exist with piano.
(Also let's be fair, a lot of getting good at StarCraft and dota is memorizibg the popular metagame and exploiting it. That's super easy)
herpbot ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:15:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This is the worst part of your biased argument.
Grade-A comment man. /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And like alcohol, it can also be used in moderation or with friends, to have some harmless fun.
herpbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I re-read his comment and I think I see that point now. I think he's taking it a little too far though with how detrimental video games are. Plenty of people spend a lot of time gaming, but it doesn't completely hinder them from other hobbies. I don't know, his comment just seems really extreme, and biased from how much it affected him negatively.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The same could be said for a lot of other consumption hobbies, anyways.
herpbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, pretty much. It doesn't necessarily become a major addiction though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It totally does for some people. Just like overeating or porn addiction.
Behaviors that are healthy in moderation can easily become a form of escapism.
herpbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No definitely. I'm more pointing out, like you said, it's for some people. The guy was talking about it as if it applies to everyone, like everyone who games a lot is addicted.
Obviously some people have more addictive personalities than others, though. I'm sure his message applies to some people.
Nacksche ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a gamor, I'm a little butthurt that you single out video games when it could be a discussion about active/creative hobbies vs. passive ones. I can imagine a book or movie geek being just as boring. Or geek anything really, a fitness nut who can't talk about anything else than working out is probably not a very interesting person (once you get over his hot, hot body and strong arms).
What's attractive is confidence, broad interests and opinions, having ideas and an inner drive to do things. Some people are, some are not, I don't think it makes that much of a difference what hobby you have.
Sure. But in reality you would be pretty good at a few instruments, be in decent shape, and your short stories would probably mostly suck. You seem to have that idea that the pure act of taking a pencil in your hand is better or more worthwhile than playing a good game. Well I disagree, making art for yourself is mostly entertainment and/or masturbation. Who benefits from an attic full of your mediocre, unoriginal, or maybe even good paintings? When you bring joy to people or get good enough to achieve some sense of accomplishment, that's where art probably becomes a better hobby than games.
It takes thousands of hours to be top tier at a single competitive game. Depends on your definition of "master" I guess.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pet snakes and tarantulas?
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally interesting!
Skilldibop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:37:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And try to be good at it so that someone may be impressed.
Don't do what I generally do and have many half arsed ones. People are interested in the fact you are good at something more than being shit at lots of things :)
chumothy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:41:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Talents too many, not enough of any.
It's my problem, too. I have too many hobbies. Tried to get into crochet late last year. Didn't finish one damn washcloth. I still managed to find someone, though. He has even more hobbies than I do.
IncognitoElephant ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:32:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what about both?
Bibdy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NO!
Vaultaire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This, but for women!
Maybe it's just a London thing but damn am I bored with the "whatever" response to interest questions...
chumothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My response isn't aimed at a particular sex. I'm just implying people should be a little more interesting.
Women say "whatever" when you ask them what their interests are? That must be really frustrating.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I build shit and make stuff. Chicks get turned on by it.
lazarus870 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. Have passion about your interests. I like guns and cars, among other things. My girlfriend tells me I positively light up when I talk about them and that she finds it attractive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have an outdoor or team sport or somewhat athletic activity you practice regularly. Running, bicycling, hiking, climbing, etc. Or something like basketball.
Have an intellectual interest in one thing to the point that you are considered knowledgeable about the subject, and be able to explain interesting facets of this subject. Make sure it's not something the typical 12-year-old is fascinated with -- you don't want to be a Star Wars fanatic, for example.
My-Work-Reddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I collect spores, molds and fungus.
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Print is dead.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a hobby but ive been pretty into crazons recently. You know cran-berry raisons?
hobbycollector ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ok
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps in your case, tone it down a bit?
slingmustard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like turtles.
demostravius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do sword fighting every week. Not sure how to get that into a conversation though.
Hey baby, want to come back to my place and look at my longsword?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, television is not a hobby, it's a pastime. Try to be a little more interesting than that.
spankymuffin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, you mean like work?
Wait. No. That's ridiculous. You mean something else, of course
How abouuuuuuuuuut my job?
... ummm
Oh! Going to my office and--oh god fucking damnit!
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been there, friend. Try not to get to entangled in the office's tentacles.
KMCobra64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow so much this. As a guy with a lot of hobbies,a girl with hobbies is at least +2 points on the scale. I don't even care if it's knitting, or rock collecting, leaf pressing - it doesn't have to be cool. Just be passionate about SOMETHING. (although it's WAY hotter if it's something like snowboarding, dirt bikes, working on cars, shooting etc...)
ismellpancakes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To expand on this, be interesting. Be able to create small talk and long talk when it's appropriate. Small talk is pretty straight forward. Show interest in the other person, how they're doing, what they're up to. Talk about some recent local or world news, show them you are informed and care about the world you live in. Long talk is a bit harder, this is where the interests and hobbies come in. Have certain things you can talk about at length. Hobbies and interests are easy cause you will know alot about those things and you can expand the other parties knowledge on it, and hopefully find some crossover in your interests. It's much more deeper than I have explained but if you can successfully perform small and long talk(and when it's appropriate to perform both) people will perceive you to be more interesting, more passionate, and informs them of your character traits.
FuckMyJobCC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets
tom808 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Linux and Warhammer 40k don't seem too effective.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is way more true than I had first thought. If you start dating someone based on physical appeal alone, they immediately start to seem very unattractive if they are a bum.
Aka, if all you do is watch Netflix, I really hate dating you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one is huge. Even if I have little to no interest in their interest or hobby, just seeing someone have a passion for something can be super attractive.
Beingabummer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Videogames, tv shows and movies don't count apparently. Also avoid talking about politics, random facts about science or comic books. And for the love of god don't mention you play Warhammer.
Be sure to have cool hobbies like soccer or woodworking or car maintenance.
bsodorbust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But don't let your hobbies define you.
shaggorama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People don't find my hobbies interesting :(
triximinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe a lot of people place considerable emphasis on having hobbies whereas interests are disregarded somewhat. Many people feel that they don't necessarily "do much" in their spare time. However I think there is a lot to be said for people who have many interests. For example, in history or particular periods of history, in philosophy or philosophical ideas, in politics or current affairs, learning about different languages and cultures. Even being interested in things like this and able to talk about them can make someone more attractive.
josmu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine are pretty boring to most people I meet though to be fair.
Timedoutsob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is reddit a hobby?
quallehoch3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been into shrimps and masturbating recently
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My interest/hobby is hamsters and rats and everyone looks at me like I'm mentally retarded when I say that. So yeah.
chumothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But rats are adorable. Hardly fair, is it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I already did that and don't attract!
jackcarr45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Started collecting beer cans. Good advice.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my own experience, this is a winner right here! You inadvertently look cool, even interesting, simply doing the things you love to do without even trying! I've also heard of people finding it attractive when people have something that they're passionate about and talk about with that fiery passion.
Tower-Union ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/02/28
DoNotBelieveThisUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke weed and play Battlefront while drinking beers.
brandvegn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a real thing. I know a woman who has no hobbies. No interest outside of work and every time I mention she may want to get something to busy herself with outside of work, she says she doesn't have time. But conversations about work only go so far, especially outside of work, so she goes to work more.
kosmoceratops1138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sexy, sexy mtg deck building.
MJWood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does redditing not count, then?
Peil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know they say girls love guys who play guitar. It's kinda true. I've known girls who say playing guitar makes you 10 times sexier, but I'd say that a minority. What I do know is when you say you're learning guitar people are impressed, especially if you started in your teens or as an adult, and when you tell them you're teaching yourself they find you far more cool.
Coppatop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets.
poom3619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paradox's Grand Strategy game?
ianme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I phrase it as "Learn a trade".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I should tell everybody about my Dragon dildo collection?
chumothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like you just did.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ones that actually give you value. Yeah video games are cool but being good at them will not make yourself more attractive.
Pick up an instrument, take acting classes, something that gives you value.
DeathbyHappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This 100%. Nothing kills interest faster than finding out the other person can't carry a conversation past what they watched on tv this week.
FUCKN_WAY_SHE_GOES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so fucking hard. Every time I try to motivate myself to have a hobby I start thinking about how everything in life is pointless and meaningless and I might as well just fall asleep on the couch eating nachos because nothing matters in the end anyway. Does this happen to anyone else?
IRiseWithMyRedHair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Little green ghouls bro!
Pebble4Dunham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having interests leads to expectation which leads to disappointment. The key to avoiding disappointment is not having interests.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what if my interest is to not... do that...
joshua_fire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is very interesting.
Helbig312 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does crying count?
PaperCutsYourEyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I probably have about 15,000 hours across all the Total War games. Does that count?
kahbn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well... fuck.
RealJuanDoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My interests and hobbies are video game and sports... Hasn't helped with women.
CheekyCheesehead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this basically
FluttershyTech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yes, the girls go crazy for the Magic: the Gathering players.
YoungWhiteGinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My main interests are politics and sports, and my hobbies revolve around those things. Not exactly the greatest topics to discuss with the ladies. Especially if they know I'm an obviously evil republican. Though when you find women into those things it's a home run.
Orion_7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This for women so much, when I was single I'd ask them "What do you do for fun?" If I got the usual answer or "Idk like drink with friends." or "Idk like Netflix." My brain wuold shut off and I would count the minutes til I could fake having to go home....
rushworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok how do I get into group hobbies? Just show up with an outfit and go "hey kids, wanna play?"
Otherwise I'm getting into flower decorations.
Hashtag_life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's kinda weird that my favorite hobby is making furniture from scratch (not scratch really; I buy wood), but now since I moved to a city I had to give it up.
dangersurfer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And remember gaming is not a hobby.
Skinon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Oatmeal Enthusiast
SteampunkSamurai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favourite things are music and sunshine and love!
...and pain
The_Drider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does sitting in front of a computer browsing reddit all day count as a hobby?
[deleted] ยท 4333 points ยท Posted at 16:04:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Rmano90 ยท 2048 points ยท Posted at 18:37:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've also found drinking just water makes you feel a lot lighter/slimmer than if you have a couple sugar drinks
Soundwave_X ยท 2571 points ยท Posted at 19:14:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut soda out of your diet. You'll miss it for a month and then won't give a shit. I've had maybe 3-4 sodas over the past 2 years, they taste disgusting to me now. Only way I'll touch coke or sprite is if there's rum or vodka in it, and then it better be the sugar free kind.
[deleted] ยท 2311 points ยท Posted at 20:06:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Us dirty soda drinkers refer to that as diet, and it tastes like cancer.
Edit: I didn't know there were so many diet soda drinking plebs on Reddit.
emokiller24 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:02:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to hate diet soda. After I quit drinking full sugar soda for a month or so, I now prefer diet soda. Canada Dry 10 is delicious.
notzerocrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much how I started on diet sodas as well. I wanted to lose weight so I quit drinking soda entirely for three months before trying diet soda and now I drink that often instead.
workaway5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hear hear. I'm a big fan of Dr. Pepper 10. The regular is too sweet and sugary, and the diet tastes a little funky. I assume Canada Dry 10 has a similar balance.
[deleted] ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 21:25:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer Diet Coke
sboshoff ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 22:38:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, regular Coke makes my teeth feel weird. Too much sugar or something?
eelsify ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 00:04:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One can of coke has over 9 teaspoons of sugar.
9!
Can you imagine putting 9 spoons of sugar in your coffee? It would taste ridiculous.
FishWash ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 01:18:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it would probably taste awesome
Luscious_Lopez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ill do it tomorrow morning. report back then
FishWash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i eagerly await the results
SFWaleckz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tastes like Diabetes
Nightshade101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you spelled Diabetes wrong
lala447 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:37:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
worked at a coffee shop and had that ordered... twice! It was disgusting. Not to mention the one guy complained that we hadn't stirred in the sugar enough! Throwback to grade seven science: a liquid can only dissolve so much before it reaches its supersaturation!
VeriFunni ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:44:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me wonder how they actually manage to put that much sugar in a coke...
Random_eyes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:37:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can dissolve almost a kilogram of glucose in a liter of water at room temperature. Or, in American figures, roughly 1 ounce of sugar per fluid ounce of water. 1 ounce of sugar equals about 28g of sugar. 9 teaspoons is about 27g of sugar. Therefore, a can of coke only really has an ounce of sugar, or 1/8 a cup of sugar.
Admittedly, the carbonated water probably lowers the total amount of sugar the beverage can dissolve, and the lower temperature of soda (typically) will certainly lower the supersaturation point as well. But 27g of sugar in a 12 oz can is pretty easily dissolved.
tl;dr: You have to dump a ridiculous amount of sugar into hot coffee to leave any sugar undissolved.
stickyfingers10 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:58:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Syrups mmm
gloves22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They superheat the syrup to dissolve more sugar. No I'm not kidding.
JoeRmusiceater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well... Supersaturation is actually just a relative to saturation.
lala447 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:41 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shh... I'm remembering from way back in grade seven... that was a while ago!
WolfInStep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ridiculously awesome! As well as my next 2 pots today.
pyroSeven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ridiculously awesome you mean.
narayans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how it would taste without sugar
DeadlyInArms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
362880 teaspoons of sugar is a lot...
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:41:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly how I feel. I can almost feel the grains of sugar against my teeth. Like drinking sweet acid.
mtdewrulz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:54:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuzzy. It makes my teeth feel fuzzy.
Minecomf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always figured that stuff was plaque from the sugars
Epistaxis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's the stickiness. Try spilling a little of each and watching them evaporate. You get a patch of disgusting sticky residue from the non-diet, because it's nearly saturated with sugar.
HH-Rob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me that was the indicative moment that I preferred diet coke, or even coke zero.
Cancer or no cancer, I'd rather much drink that from a taste (and after-taste perspective) in addition that I won't be filling my body with useless calories.
TheNewHumanism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! It makes my teeth feel fuzzy and squeaky at the same time. It's disgusting.
bpwoods97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I've stopped drinking coke actually. I still drink soda but mostly when I go out to eat as I've been trying to cut back. It never used to happen years ago but Coke makes my teeth feel like they've got a film of gunk over them and it makes them feel softer.
I used to drink coke and cherry coke every day at home, 2-3 cans a day, on top of not exercising any more because my high school doesn't have a PE class, just something called HOPE in 9th grade and then you're done after that.
I haven't got any real exercise since then. I've gained a lot of weight (not necessarily a bad thing, I used to weigh maybe 90 lbs in 9th grade and I weigh ~150 now as a senior, most of that is just fat weight, I used to play sports recreationally before I moved to Florida and everything down here is competitive which I'm not interested in) but I've been wanting to start going to the gym but I don't have my own membership so I usually just go with people like my brother which isn't very often. He just recently moved in with me so hopefully we'll get to go more often now.
I also know my posture is shit because my shoulders are always hunched over from the way I lean back in my nice office chair at my computer all the time. Recently, one of my friends who's really good at giving massages felt the space between my shoulders and neck towards my back, whatever that is called, and pointed out how that space basically feels like a slab of concrete because it's rock hard and I just then realized it too. I'm not sure if just going to the gym and exercising will fix that though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will absolutely fix that! Bro you need to get your back, legs, and shoulders strengthened asap. I've tried to fix my posture for years before I actually went to the gym and started doing squats and deadlifts. After a week my posture was as good as it can possibly be.
bpwoods97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother used to be a gym rat for like four years before he hurt his back doing squats I think it was. He took a personal trainer class and could get his cert so all I need to do is go with him and he can help me. Now that he lives with me and my dad he can also cook healthy for me like he did for himself as well. It's all just a matter of finding time.
cvak ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 22:18:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you are glitch.
colonelbyson ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:29:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
PM_ME_UR_BUTTDIMPLES ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:54:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
G-g-g-g-GLITCH!
chiefchoncho48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That scene was fucked up. It was basically the eguivalent of making fun of a retard.
not_caineghest ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you prefer diet coke to regular coke. The real question is, do you prefer diet coke to coke zero?
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:27:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only drink sugar free cokes, and primarily I drink diet coke, because coke zero wasn't around when I started. So, I prefer diet coke. I still drink zero from time to time though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never tried Coke Zero, sorry. I mostly drink water and cider, to be honest.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer diet coke, and I can't even look at coke zero without wanting to vomit. It's like they hired the world's worst chemist to mimic the taste of sugar with chemicals normally used for making meth.
silentxem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My first words were Diet Coke, and I don't even prefer Diet Coke.
DARKTHRONE666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coke Zero Cherry is awesome, shame I can't find it near me.
yourfavoriteblackguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coke zero is life
avantgardeaclue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its so much better. It doesn't feel so syrupy. Its got a little bite to it too.
bionku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KILL THE HERETIC, COKE ZERO IS THE ONE TRUE BEVERAGE!
SevenFingerStud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer cancer
trikillr42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah cancer tastes delicious doesnt it?
SharkFart86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I've stumbled upon a dark, dark corner of the internet.
FartsFTW ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:51:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear diet drinks increase the effect of alcohol
crnerthling ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:50:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure you've already gotten a dozen replies on the subject, but try Coke Zero. I follow a keto diet and it's one of my guilty pleasures when combined with a little rum
swiftb3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm not a diet coke fan, but coke zero is surprisingly good.
metalkhaos ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do they not use aspertame or whatever in Coke Zero? I'd have 0 issues with diet soda, but the aspertame/substitutes they use just leave a long-lasting nasty taste in mouth.
crnerthling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To my understanding, they're both the same in both ingredients and nutritional value. However, Diet Coke was created as a standalone product with a completely different formula/taste than Coke. Coke Zero is essentially Original Coke with aspartame instead of sugar/high fructose corn syrup/etc. I think stevia is replacing aspartame in the recipes of both drinks though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Replacing in the future? Because my bottle definitely says "With/Avec Aspartame" on it still.
farmtownte ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:39:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than the diabeetus taste of normal soda
Segfault-er ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:44:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a diabeetuc I can't stand the taste or the regular stuff. When I was diagnosed I was always given the diet stuff so I wouldn't feel left out.
keenkidkenner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same! I only drink diet so it won't affect my blood sugars. I got used to it and now regular tastes gross.
Ginger-Nerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do you not get coke zero - its different to diet coke.
RickyShores ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:11:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is different. It doesn't taste as bad.
Spark_Seeker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a poor student and tea addict I've nearly stopped drinking soda, I use it only to vanish the taste of vodka on parties, but still I'm not able to drink the diet sodas...
Jebbediahh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It IS cancer, although it's up for debate how much more cancer it is than regular sugary soda
nomad246 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:53:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is cancer, aspartame...
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, John, does this taste good?
If you were trying to make caffeine free coke taste like progeria meshed jnto a four loco cumshot, you really fucked up because this is delicious.
Goddammit! flips clipboard
Tonyhawk270 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:07:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Artificial sweeteners taste like drinking pure cancer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also makes you get drunk faster.
SargeMacLethal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it's much better for mixing drinks IMO.
leitey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually diet coke is smoother in a Captain and coke
bboywhitey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate diet but for some reason I think it's delicious when mixed with alcohol.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coke Zero tastes better than normal Coke for me. The drink.
howisaraven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always liked diet soda better. :( Regular is too sugary to me. I hate it when people assume I think getting a bunch of unhealthy food and a Diet Coke is "healthier". No. I like Diet Coke, damnit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet soda with alcohol gets your more drunk faster.
So I've heard.
NotRoryWilliams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a soda drinker because diet soda tastes like cancer and gives me a headache. My one guilty pleasure is Mountain Dew, but I recognize that it's just not worth it so I usually don't.
milkman182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but it does get you drunk faster
MumBum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. It is fucking gross.
Beaudism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It basically is cancer.
Reapingday15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet Mountain Dew tastes a hell of a lot like regular mountain dew.
Toaster_Bath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dirty soda sprite? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dirty+sprite
Paxmagister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also gives you cancer.
ZincCadmium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DIET COKE IS GOD
shiroishii731 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit bruh, diet 7up is surprisingly decent
notsoawkward ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pepsi max is best Pepsi
basalticlava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet Pepsi is my shit
Monty967 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cool I like regular coke, and despise diet versions. We should take a stand on it.
allofthethings13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're my favorite.
beersticker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped drinking soda a month ago and I do miss it. It's the nectar from the gods. I crave it every day and it honestly hasn't gotten any easier for me.
karinabot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't stand diet sodas, I'll occasionally have a taste of regular soda but it usually gives me the hiccups. So drinking lots of water makes my life a lot easier.
JDuCalisson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a reason it tastes like cancer. Aspartame is usually the artificial sweetener used in diet sodas, and it's a carcinogenic. I don't know how much it affects you when it's drunk, but you will get cancer if you somehow spill undiluted aspartame on your skin.
Pelican_Poop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regular soda makes you fat and diet soda gives you cancer. Seems like a lose-lose.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or aspartame, because i love headaches
respecteduser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only does it taste bad, but it also contains a fair bit of chemicals to replace sugar. Often times, this makes the drink even more unhealthy.
kackygreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't drink soda often but diet soda is disgusting, and, according to a semi recent study, actually makes you more likely to gain weight (sweet without calories confuses your body and makes it crave more calories)
Wess_Mantooth_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sugarsodamasterrace
freethemind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No surprise there. The US has the highest soda consumption in the world, if not then they are at least the 2nd.
satanicleaftailgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only tastes terrible, but is also terrible for you. Not saying normal is good, but diet is crap too.
Imalurkerwhocomments ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I cut soda pretty well out of what I consume, but if I have it I'm not touching that diet shit.
Horned_Dolphin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see futures in the thread
thebrainypole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, cancer in a bottle.
Raknarg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You taste like cancer
...
also I have diabetes
kreedzclimbing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pepsi Next is amazing
thirdegree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely tastes like cancer, but it still tastes better than non-diet.
patternboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:19 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get used to diet or zero and the sugary stuff tastes like diabetes. I can't even drink one can of normal Coke anymore it's so sickly sweet.
hardly_quinn ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 20:23:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't agree more. The first month you'll crave soda like you never have before but I found that sparkling water helped a lot. If you don't like the taste of soda water I recommend jamming four or five lemon wedges in your glass. Started doing that when I got sick one year, and became absolutely hooked. Eventually I weaned myself off lemons and now I knock back soda water plain even though I used to hate it. Makes you burp like a champ too.
Nowadays soda isn't necessarily disgusting to me, it's just so so so sweet that I can't drink more than a couple sips. I found that it curbed my cravings for other sweet things too, except sour gummy worms. You can't take that away from me
Onthenightshift ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:03:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading somewhere that the CO2 in soda water made it pretty acidic and bad for your teeth. I could be wrong though, either way, still healthier than 42 teaspoons of sugar
schwermetaller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And just remember: In addition to the damn 42 teaspoons of sugar, soda is usually carbonated as well, so that argument is not even valid.
Onthenightshift ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, doubleplus bad
nolotusnotes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:04:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been drinking this for years now!
TEAM CARBONATED WATER!
BrandyAlexander9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a soda addict and sometimes I go through periods of not drinking and the only thing I've found that's really good and doesn't make me miss it is the selzer at Trader Joes. It's surprisingly delicious.
nolotusnotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The great thing is that the Kroger stuff is seriously right there next to free. And quite tasty!
If cost is no object, I'm San Pellegrino all day.
As a side-note, Fiji water is also the shit. Expensive, but top-tier.
AncestralStatue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll second lemon in water. I add the tiniest pinch of salt. I don't get it often as lemons don't last in my house.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In winter, hot water with lemon and honey is amazing. Slice up the lemon, squeeze the juice from the ends into the water, put the neat slices in there, stir in a little honey to take the edge off. Best drink.
Los_Kings ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:05:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I switched to club sodas with a few dashes of lime juice and/or bitters as an evening relaxer. I just enjoy the carbonation too much, I guess, to switch to water outright, all the time.
I'll have a full-calorie soda as an occasional treat, most often at the movies as an accompaniment to popcorn. As a teen, I was probably drinking two cans of that crap a day. Really glad I was able to wean myself off that habit.
Soundwave_X ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:11:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can get a SodaStream and just add flavoring to some cold water. It's great!
Los_Kings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely not a bad idea. I'm sure it would save me a lot of money in the long-run.
pinkmeanie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, if saving money is the goal get a Primo brand carbonator at a yard sale or thrift store. Instead of SodaStream's proprietary valve design where you pay $15 for a CO2 refill, it uses the standard 20 oz bottles that go in paintball guns, and you can get those refilled at beer distributors or sporting goods stores for like $3.
jpropaganda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't stand sodastream because i feel like the bubbles are too large. Smart and Final has 2L club soda for $1.19, and sometimes on sale for $.99. That's an even better deal than the 4 12-packs of cans for $9 that Ralph's used to offer.
Juicysteak117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea instead of soda, I drink club soda and then add a flavouring to it like Mio or something. Probably terrible for me too, but at least it's better than soda.
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:30:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And smoothies and all that shit. If you're going to drink something, drink water. You can obviously make exceptions for coffee and alcohol and whatever.
[deleted] ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 20:14:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about only alcohol
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:31:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does not compute. How will you morning?
klartraume ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 20:32:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alcohol.
Joker1337 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:34:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not 1am morning, 7am morning.
Ashendarei ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 20:42:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The answer is still alcohol.
ZombieBarney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trick question! The answer is always alcohol.
klartraume ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't drink coffee regularly. I drink water in the morning and eat.
Only for all day meetings do I need a caffeine pick me up.
It works :]
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alcohol?
LargeSalad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alcohol?
KokiriRapGod ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:32:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More alcohol is the answer here, I believe.
GeneralGnardafi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it obvious? You can't have a hangover if you are always drunk. Try replacing the milk in your weetabix with fruit cider to start, and slowly begin to introduce vodka over time, works like a charm!
schwermetaller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And remember not to stop being drunk though, since the combined hangover could literally kill you.
unibrow4o9 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:43:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vodka is just Russian for "Water"
your_moms_obgyn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:49:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Cute little water" would be more precise, but since English doesn't have a grammatical diminutive form, it doesn't translate very well.
(Not trying to be a dick, I just think it's interesting)
unibrow4o9 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:20:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hah, I was actually totally joking. That's pretty funny.
OnTheEveOfWar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:16:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I literally only drink water, coffee, and alcohol.
lord_allonymous ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:43:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. Cut out all that unhealthy stuff except the unhealthy stuff I happen to like.
mainman879 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:06:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who never drinks coffee or alcohol, this is exactly what i was thinking.
DoktorLuciferWong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But.. coffee isn't really that bad for you, is it?
mainman879 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coffee isnt bad, but it does develop a dependency and is proven to make you wake up less awake the more you drink coffee, but coffee is healthy in moderation.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coffee is (kind of) addictive, but otherwise good for you. Unless you over-consume it like crazy (a dozen cups per day), there are no health problems associated with it, but it does seem to protect you against things like Alzheimers in the long run. It can stain your teeth, though.
The withdrawal effects only last a day or two, so it's easy to quit if you want to. But it can be a bit inconvenient while you're "on" coffee. The severity of the symptoms also varies wildly; I can personally forget to drink coffee for a day and feel nothing.
lord_allonymous ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty much exactly as bad for you as diet soda.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:00:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the difference between "cut out 90% of the bad stuff and manage to actually stick to that for the rest of your life" and "cut out everything but get tired of it and quit after a few years", which are realistically the two competing options for most people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:01:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SONOFERGUS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:43:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I need to know your vice
thatissomeBS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cocaine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly. Cutting soda is a measure that has big impact on ones diet since soda is something most soda-drinking-people drink all day everyday. Drinking alcohol moderately at weekends, on the other hand, can't be considered unhealthy, and even if you want to consider social drinking unhealthy to cut alcohol ingestion in such frequency has little to zero impact on ones diet.
vanquish421 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:58:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coffee isn't unhealthy for most people. Soda, even diet, destroys the calcium in your bones.
lord_allonymous ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
josh_bullock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:17:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
only two exceptions you need.
Free_Apples ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:02:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most coffee people drink is fucking terrible for you. I've gotten myself into a nasty espresso habbit over the past semester of college (when I study etc) and I think it shows from all the sugar I'm consuming. My family said I looked skinnier (probably in my face) but at the same time I feel like I'm starting to grow a gut.
yagatov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink it Black. Once you go black you never go back. That happened to me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we include tea? All I drink is pop, water, and juice, with the occasional tea, so I'd like to keep a hot beverage.
Kuritos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:27:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I cut soda out, I refuse anything sweet because it didn't taste good anymore.
You'll develop a taste called: Unhealthy
theaveragejoe99 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:58:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I just got a sweet tooth when I did it. Not enough to counteract the benefits of not drinking soda, but I definitely didn't stop liking sweets.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is wrong with smoothies? Or are you talking about smoothies with a lot of sugar added? Fruit juices are also good as long as they don't have sugar added.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fruit juices usually contain a ton of sugar by themselves, so you don't have to add any sugar to get fat from drinking them. They contain a lot of vitamins and stuff too, but that doesn't in any way cancel out the sugar. Nor does the fact that it's "natural", because the "added" sugar is also extracted from plants.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fruits contain sugar. Lots and lots of it. That's why they're tasty enough that people want to make smoothies out of them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware. I think encouraging people to not eat fruit, smoothies, or fruit juices for health reasons is ridiculous unless the person's goal is to lose weight, especially given that you said exceptions for alcohol are okay. You'd need to eat a lot of fruit for it to be an issue unless you have diabetes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you are missing something. No one has encouraged anybody to not eat fruit. People should eat fruit daily (not more than 2 ones, though, 'cause, you know, it's full of sugar). Fruit Juices is something else, because in one cup of juice (300ml to 400ml) you'll have usually more than 3 juiced fruits - and sometimes you have two cups at lunch and one more at dinner - , plus the juicing itself facilitating sugar absorption.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:54:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not missing anything. Telling people to not eat smoothies just because they have fruit in them is telling people to not eat fruit.
I didn't tell people to drink 5 cups of fruit juice a day just like /u/splergel didn't tell people to drink 6 beers in a day.
sje46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water or milk. Milk is my absolute favorite beverage. Will have tea on occasion.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Milk is about 5% sugar by weight, plus the fat. It's not as bad as soda, but from a weight loss point of view it's still bad.
Anrikay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoothies aren't bad. Couple times a week, one of my meals is a smoothie with kale, frozen berries (mostly raspberries), almond milk, peanut butter, and chocolate protein powder. Given that I only eat once or twice per day, it doesn't seem that bad. It's a good way to consume a lot of food in a short period of time and keeps me going for hours without getting hungry.
Smoothies with frozen yogurt and shit though, that's awful for you.
Rmano90 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:26:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah so true, I'll have like one Coke on the weekend as a guilty pleasure and the rest of the week just water. Makes a huge difference
ChristopherOrChris ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:22:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to drink soda daily and cut it entirely. Wow it feels good! I used to have a hard time sleeping at night and needed something like melatonin to help me, but when I cut soda I no longer needed it. Artificial sugar is terrible for your body, and the less of it the better. Seriously, I can't recommend dropping soda enough.
jigokusabre ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:02:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sugar free rum?
jpropaganda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My immediate thought as well! Like, that ain't possible.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That absolutely did not work for me.
I cut it for a few months, which obviously sucked, and I never once felt better. Stomach aches were a constant annoyance. I woke up the exact same and never regained any energy. Not to mention how absolutely boring water can be to the taste buds. In fact, after a few months, I broke my rule once, had a Coke Zero. The carbonation finally settled my stomach that night, and I had my energy back.
And before you start suggesting the carbonated water, it all tasted like piss and no amount of flavoring stopped it. It was either keep a constant stomach cramp and feel tired while never exciting my taste buds, or start moderating how much soda I drank.
The latter is infinitely better.
Exaskryz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, do you drink coffee then for your caffeine?
Soundwave_X ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:33:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I would recommend Arizona Diet Green Tea. It has caffiene, it tastes awesome, and green tea is good for your skin. I also drink those white Monsters that have zero sugar/calories but that might not be for everyone.
tobaknowsss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about switching from regular soda to diet? Does that make any impact?
Soundwave_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet soda tastes so bad that you might like flavored water instead. They have tons of great flavors: lemon, lime, raspberry, etc.
tobaknowsss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are we talking about like the flavours squirt bottle that you add to water or flavoured water to buy that has been pre-mixed? I've noticed that the pre-mixed flavoured water often has a ton of sugar in in.
Personally I only drink soda when I mix it with alcohol but since Rum and Coke is my drink of choice I'm wondering if switching to diet coke would make any difference.
Soundwave_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's a Swedish company that sells on amazon. Search for Swedish water enhancers.
GreenDay987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's basically just as bad for you, IIRC. Don't hate me if I'm wrong though.
Mirrorflute88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I pretty much only drink water now, except for the occasional root beer. Now that it's occasional I can spend more on a good brand instead of shitty soda
the13bangbang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was about to say. Only time I buy and drink (I occasionally have a ginger ale or coke) soda is for alcohol. Not saying that's a healthy mix but it is nice never craving soda and wasting the money on it at restaurants and for home use.
sisyphus99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been off soda for a year or more, except from the occasional drink to remind me how ridiculous it is to put something that sugary and artificial in my body on a regular basis (have to offset the other unhealthy things I put in my body somehow). There, that last parenthetical hopefully reduced the smugness.
Kappadar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it bad that I get nauseous when I drink two soda's? So like two Cokes cans in the span of an hour
Franklin_Collective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
agreed. i haven't had any pop in 5 years until recently. last week my SO said she felt nauseous so she had some dr. pepper. a few days later i felt nauseous so i was like meh, i'll try it. i took one sip and almost gagged. and the carbonation burned. not sure how i ever enjoyed pop so much before.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to drink about 2 - 3 cans of Fanta and Coke a day, now it's a friday treat, ONLY FIRDAY, unless I go drinking then it's Coke and Disaronno.
thepinkservbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This does not describe everyone by a long shot.
JordyLakiereArt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what do you drink when you wanna experience something more interesting than water? Juice? Serious question. I drink tons, and unfortunately a lot of it is soda. But because I drink a lot, just drinking water gets ... quite boring.
squidgod2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, did exactly this. Now I drink nothing but (unsweetened) green tea and water. Can't stand soda anymore, especially the way it coats the inside of your mouth...don't know how I ever tolerated it.
EJables96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy is right. Completely cut it out because I really couldn't control my intake. Sucked for a month and half but now I don't feel the need to drink soda anymore. Feel loads better and look slimmer
ghostdate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did good for a long time, then one day I decided I'd have a coke because I needed some caffeine, but a whole coffee gives me panic attacks, while a can of coke is just right. I thought it was gross, but drank it anyways. Very quickly I was back in the habit of having one almost every day. Shit is so addictive. I need to revert back to carbonated water. I guess I can do that as a belated New Years revolution.
CapnSippy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soda is as bad as cigarettes and I wish more people would realize this. Drinking soda regularly will take years off your life, it'll create long-lasting and potentially fatal health issues, and it'll make your life significantly more difficult in every way. Just like cigarettes.
Stop drinking soda. Just stop. It does nothing good for you. It does not benefit you in any way. It only hurts you.
Water is literally the opposite of soda. It only helps you. It will increase your lifespan, give you more energy, and make you a happier person overall. Stop drinking soda. Drink water instead. It's all you need.
Mc_ThuMp_NasTy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I an the exact same way. Although I hate vodka. I love a good rum and coke. But I wouldn't drink soda any other way.
alexisaacs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sugar free soda tastes better anyway. I don't understand how anyone can drink regular soda. Not only is the aftertaste pure ass, I always feel sluggish afterwards.
OnFunAndDrugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't regularly drank soda in over 5 years and I havent missed it once.
Water honestly tastes better to me at this point. Not to mention I get stomach cramps when I drink even one can of that shit
togashikokujin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side, last February I went from 2+ sodas a day to very occasional. Went completely without for 3-4 months, and now I allow myself one or two every couple weeks. Still absolutely delicious to me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm happy as hell I never got on board with the sugary drink habit.
GenericName72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with the rum and coke thing! Spiced rum and coke zero doesn't taste bad at all, and it's nice to have every now and then.
Arrlan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been soda free for 4 years now. I STILL crave the shit. mmmm Cherry Coke
paulec252 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet soda has been shown to get you drunk more effectively than regular.
delli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had soda every day when i was in middle school and the first couple years of high school. Then I just decided to stop drinking it (cold turkey if you will) during my Junior year of high school. Now 7 years later I've only had about 10 sodas. Sometimes a crave a ice cold coke on a hot day, but other than that I never have the urge to drink soda #water4ever
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only soft drink I've drank in the last 5 months was Fanta Orange for captain morgans and Shloer at christmas time.
Honest to god, this guys right, even if you love soft drinks, drinking water for like a month and you will never even feel the urge to get a soft drink again.
BZLuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We were poor as kids and couldn't afford soda. I never developed a hankering for it. Maybe once or twice a year, I will have a Dr. Pepper with greasy real Mexican food, and that's only if they have it cold, and in a can. And I will still only drink half of it.
cjog210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had maybe two last year, and they still taste good, but they don't taste as good as I remember.
ROLLIN_BALLS_DEEP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im really happy because i cut out soda also (great choice) but once in a while a mexican coke or jarita with mexican food tastes great!
ffejbos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i keep thinking that not drinking soda is healthy for me, but then i go and look at all the beer/liquor i drink instead of soda...all in all not much has changed
PersonOfLowInterest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hum. Cut soda out when I started counting calories. I'm still cutting it, but it definitely tasted great the few times I've had it. :(
niceguysociopath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never had this :( I didn't have soda for over months once and it was still sweet sweet nectar afterwards.
DishwasherTwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no need to go to that much of an extreme. Don't cut it out entirely if you don't want, just cut back. I only drink pop when I go out to eat which is very rarely. So I end up having a glass or two a handful of times per month.
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the desert. Water will become the best drink ever.
cardioZOMBIE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This ^
vampyrita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone says this, and i did it successfully for about three or four months. I always, ALWAYS wanted soda. Especially when i ate. After a breakup with the guy who convinced me to do it, i went right back to soda and didn't feel any different.
Rationally, intellectually, i know that soda is awful for you, and if i cut out out, i would be much better off. But honestly, it never made a difference to me when i tried it. That makes it so much harder to convince myself to try again. I aim for limiting it to one a day now.
theonemoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is so true, i dropped 4 inches off my waist since i cut them out and im almost down to a 28"
on top of that i sleep much better
ibetrollingyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I got braces my dentist and orthodontist told me to completely cut out all fizzy drinks.
It's really not hard at all, just switch to juice (just so there's some flavour), and then to water.
CentaurOfDoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm... Drinking some right now. Dang it.
RealJuanDoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Only 23 went strictly water and alcohol last year. Had 3 colas since and I absolutely hated them. Like Bill Burr has said "the same way you get addicted to eating like shit, is the same way you can get addicted to eating well, just keep doing it."
herbuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People always say this, but going long periods of time without soda just makes it way more delicious when I finally have some.
pootiel0ver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I spent the better part of my childhood and into my 20's consuming mass amounts of soda, specifically Pepsi and Coke. I'm talking up to 2 2liter bottles a day. Finally wised up, got into fitness and now over 10 years later the very thought of drinking a soda repulses me. I'm also 37 and in better shape then I was at 18.
catsarentcute ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My father is foreign and never bought soda for whatever reason, and that shit is absurdly sweet. I can't believe people just pour refined sugar down the gullet.
batclocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is sparkling water okay?
theOtherColdhands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Re: choosing the sugar-free kind
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/diet-soda-health_b_2698494.html
Wanted to let you know the artificial sweeteners they use in zero-calorie drinks may actually be worse for your health
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Used to be a huge sodaholic. Cut it out of my diet about 4 months ago and have never felt better. In addition to improving other aspects of my diet, cutting soda has helped me look in great shape.
erthwormal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can verify. I cut out soda about 6 months ago. I used to drink an obscene about of diet soda in a day. I'd probably estimate about 10 cans worth in a day or more. Towards the end I had all but replace water with soda and I felt devoid of anything that resembled health. Cutting out soda was hard. It took a few tries and honestly cutting out the caffeine gave me pretty harsh withdrawals so I had to ween myself off. Now it's been 6 months since I've had any soda or caffeine and I feel much better. The truth is since I was drinking diet I didn't loose a bunch of weight or suddenly start running marathons. I still struggle with the motivation to work out or eat better but step by step I am moving towards better health. It took me having a kid and want to be a good role model to make the plunge but there's a reason out there for everyone to make a change.
colinstalter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So true. Used to drink soda all the time and I found water to taste disgusting. Now I only drink water (and occasionally juice) and love the taste of water.
Just take the plunge, drink water and you will be over it in no time at all.
Tron10000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't drink soda anymore but coca cola from McDonald's is the best drink ever I could down a large in one drink
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cut soda out almost 3 years ago. Had one can of Coke about a year ago and I thought it was absolutely putrid. Couldn't get down more than three sips before pouring it down the drain.
mrplattypus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vodka, just vodka
iHeartApples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh. My mother started giving us Coke as toddlers and I still fall off the wagon every couple years, good on you for kicking it!
gert3r33t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My go to treat-beverage is sparkling water because I hate artificial sweetener but carbonation/a little lemon juice is bomb.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My stomach churns whenever I have soda now, I can't even have it with vodka.
manicmoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I used to drink at least a cup of soft drink a day ever since I was young but for some reason I just completely called it quits and now I have no desire to drink anything remotely sugary. I just have no desire for sugar anymore. Water is the best!
OG_tripl3_OG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only do they taste disgusting, whenever I have soda it burns my throat. Also, if I have more than one soda, it makes me feel really full and just shitty overall.
Stick to just water, and balance it with alcohol, of course.
spankymuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. I still like soda but I never had an issue cutting it out of my diet.
Then again, I probably drink more coffee than water. But that's because I barely sleep so... fuck.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like virgils. Its soda minus the corn syrup and nonsense.
Weatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been soda free for over a year now and it makes me sick every time I try it now. So glad I cut it out too, 245lbs to 215 so far.
_suckittrebek_ ยท 232 points ยท Posted at 18:55:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that would make sense, since water has no calories and is super healthy, while "sugar" drinks are packed full of calories and are super unhealthy.
Rmano90 ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 18:58:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I know it sounds pretty obvious but it's one of those little things that makes a big difference
myotherotherusername ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:37:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I ran into one of the old security guards from my high school a few weeks ago. Since I graduated 3 years ago the dude lost 45 pounds, apparently with the only dietary change being switching from mountain dew to water. I guess he had been drinking like 5 bottles/ cans a day, and cutting that was enough to do it
danzey12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:28:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've lost 35 lbs in 6 months from literally nothing but drinking water all the damn time, and tea.
superking2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:28:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was the game changer for me. Even a shitty greasy hamburger will make you full at some point. A Coke won't and is therefore that much more dangerous if not controlled.
NeverMyCakeDay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:13:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also sugar drinks, like soda pop, are loaded with sodium that just makes you bloated, dries out your skin, and increases hyper-tension. Also, they have a ton of weird acids and other crap you don't want making you feel yucky.
stuffguy1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
some people cannot stop drinking that shit though. i stopped drinking pop about 6 years ago and feel great. i love coke, but only have it like once in a blue moon. It makes it taste that much better.
Tittytickler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:31:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes sense yet people still need to be told to do it unfortunately... I mean all you need to do is know what is a healthy intake of the different groups (fat, sugar, carbs, protein, fiber, etc.) to understand that soda is horrendously bad for you
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:49:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not that simple with the bullshit USDA food pyramid.
Tittytickler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:59:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it is really simple with the whole internet at your finger tips. We've known the food pyramid is bullshit for like a full decade at least, and there are toooons of studies ongoing and completed about which diets are better for what. It is this simple: eat more protein and fat than carbs, try to cut out as much processed sugar as possible. Once you are at your desire weight, you can add in more carbs, but low carb high fat diets have been shown to reduce body fat %. You want more simple? Don't eat more calories than you use. Hungry? Drink a tall glass of water. You're still hungry? Eat smaller portions and only eat until you are full. When I was 16 I lost 45 lbs in about 2 months just by changing my diet and continuing to play my sport as normal. Nobody was coaching me and i wasn't writing down calories or anything
_suckittrebek_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have to admit, I love hearing sage advice from a Tittytickler ;-)
_suckittrebek_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are people so ready to look for excuses? If you live in the US, you are pretty much guaranteed to have the internet, and therefore a wealth of information is readily available to you 24/7 at your own convenience.
lilleulv ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:42:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In a shorter perspective, they also make you temporarily bloated as they're carbonated.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But...but I took the stairs this morning!
wormee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was once told it like this: You wouldn't be very clean if you took a bath in Pepsi!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean is subjective. If all lifeforms were based on Pepsi instead of water, then a Pepsi bath would be perfectly bubbly
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:36:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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whateverrforeverr ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:52:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think there are any nutritional benefits to sugary drinks though, are there? The kind of sugar your body needs is natural sugars combined with fibers, I thought?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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whateverrforeverr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I wasn't disputing the science behind it. I actually don't eat sugar unless it's from fruits and I feel fine. I'm not sure what you're insinuating. I just don't feel like energy from things like artificial sugary drinks are worth the crash and headaches they come with, in my experience. Especially when you could be getting the same energy and reaping more benefits nutritionally from better options.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have determined you don't really know what the fuck you're talking about based on the fact that you refer to carbs and sugar as two different things and seem to not realize that sucrose is a mixture of glucose and fructose.
soniacristina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need sugar for energy, lol.
AmbroseMalachai ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:09:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Empty calories don't help you and sugar itself is an empty calorie so whether you are eating fruit or drinking a soda, the difference comes from what else is in whatever you are eating. You shouldn't have too many empty calories because they make you gain weight and hold very little nutritional value. Sugar is necessary, but only in very small amounts.
whateverrforeverr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes, I know. I'd hardly categorize fruits as empty calories though.
WagerBetswithDongs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm willing to bet you only heard/read this somewhere. No professional in this field say empty calories. A calorie is a unit of measurement just like grams, joules, watts, etc...
That whole empty calorie was marketing by the food industry to sell marked up foods. Now they run the organic slogan. You're just a sucker for marketing like most people.
whateverrforeverr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was using it in reply to someone else's comment, who used that term. Regardless of where it comes from though, it's just an easy way to describe something that is loaded with calories and very little nutritional value. That doesn't make me a fool for marketing dude.
AmbroseMalachai ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:46:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure but the difference is what is around the sugar, not the sugar itself.
soniacristina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need sugar at all. Or bodies convert protein and fat to glucose just fine.
_suckittrebek_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, they really are. They're full of garbage along with the sugar. They provide nothing beneficial. Yes, humans need sugar, but not from pop. You get more than enough from fruit, carbs, etc. Sources that are providing you with nutrients and fibre along with the sugar.
There is literally nothing beneficial for you in soft drinks (okay, I mean, you could count the water, but then why not just drink water). Only stuff that is detrimental to you. It really doesn't matter how much sugar they put in, it's unhealthy either way.
Also, I am not against pop. I love Pepsi, and drink it regularly. However, I realize it's unhealthy and don't try to justify it in any way.
jugemscloudmc ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not remotely correct. Sugar provides nothing more than calories, which you can get from any food. The ideal amount of sugar in a person's diet is zero.
11415142513152119 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:19:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose#Energy_source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_respiration#Aerobic_respiration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine_triphosphate#Glycolysis
Eh, most foods you eat contain vitamins and minerals and an energy source: either carbohydrates, proteins or fats. sugars are short chain carbohydrates and the stuff you put in your coffee is called fructose which is very chemically similar to the sugar your body turns in to ATP to power your cells, more specifically glucose. When you eat a longer chain carbohydrate or fat or protein your body breaks down those chemicals into glucose and eventually ATP but when you eat fructose your body doesn't have to change it very much before it can turn it into usable energy. Because sugar has so much quickly usable energy for little investment from your body it is quickly used but if you consume lots of fructose in concert with other foods your body won't need the energy from the foods later and will turn the unused calories into fat. So lots of sugar is bad for you because you get the energy without the vitamins and minerals but if you wan't a little energy fast and eat well otherwise sugar is your best friend.
jugemscloudmc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:32:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I agree with what you're saying, but this isn't related to the claim of the previous poster. The poster was saying that one needs to eat table sugar/corn syrup as found in soft drinks in addition to the glucose they obtain from carbohydrates found in other foods. If you fix the total amount of calories in your diet, it's nearly always better to get those calories from other carbohydrates in food than from table sugar/corn syrup. If you are, say, a long distance runner, eating pure glucose is not so bad, but it's never necessary when a bagel would suffice; both carbs.
11415142513152119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's definitely understandable and you certianly don't need to consume sugar unless your diabetic and only on occasion. I only disagree with the generalization that the perfect amount of sugar in a diet is zero. What you said about the long distance runner I think can apply to a less specific and athletic group. I'm kinda poor and a little too skinny so the extra sugar is great for me because I make an effort to eat healthy foods at other times and exercise regularly.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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jugemscloudmc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your body needs sugar, how is it that people are able to live on low or zero carb (ketogenic) diets? If you claim to require sugar to get faster energy, what about other refined carbohydrates such as wheat flour? Why would sugar be necessary when I could eat a piece of bread and get the same caloric effect?
This is simply not true. Apparently, I listened a little more carefully in college than you did.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:15:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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jugemscloudmc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The starch in bread made from refined flour is converted to glucose extremely quickly, starting in your mouth. The only difference between eating 100 calories of bread or 100 calories of sugar, is the bread possibly has fiber and other nutrients which the sugar lacks. You get more than enough glucose to live from foods, you do not need to eat table sugar or anything sugary to survive.
The reason doctors tell patients to not abandon sugar is because people would simply ignore this advice. The fact that obesity is a huge worldwide problem should tell you that something needs to change.
olbeefy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI, you're one of the people on here spreading misinformation. Your post above this starts with soda being "not super unhealthy."
Yes, you need sugar in your diet. However, you NEVER need to get it through a soda. One can of soda alone is already too much sugar.
How are you trying to explain anything to people when you don't even get that much?
WagerBetswithDongs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
soda is only super unhealthy when you drink too much of it. Dude was right. Probably apply to evry thing else a person take in.
Delverx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you probably are.
basbeer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should share this knowledge with America
Faintlich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At 185cm and struggling to get to 60kg of weight at 22 years old, I'll now never drink water again thanks m8
5513131541231 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, consuming 0 calories does make one feel slimmer than drinking 2 (a couple) sodas that have 400 calories.
lol
I lost 80 lb in 14 months and this type of shit makes my day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drinking water also makes you alot lighter/slimmer than eating cheeseburgers.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:31:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The real life hack is when you realize that if you eat a cheeseburger and drink water with it, you'll be both slimmer and happier than with any other option. It's not the cheeseburger that makes you fat.
READMEtxt_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't say
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weird, I find that immediately after drinking both, the soda feels better, but 1-2 hours after, the water will make me feel a lot better.
Randomn355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you think about how many calories you save in a day by not drinking 1.5 liters of coke though?
Or any other sugar-y drink that is...
nolotusnotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I switched-up colas and the like for canned carbonated water. It's a total life hack!
As a bonus, I lost a ton of weight doing nothing but that.
I_Photoshop_Movies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I want to gain weight?
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big time, because it also has no calories.
If you don't like the taste of plain water, try seltzer, or adding a slice of lemon to some ice water.
I ditched sodas years ago and feel so much better because of it.
anrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, drinking cold water does help you lose weight. The energy it takes to heat up water in your mouth outweighs the 0 calories that water offers.
DyxlesicEsikom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish there was this big change for me when I quit habitually drinking soda. Everyone always says how much better they felt after cutting it (or at least drinking less) but I am throughly... unaffected. Less guilt for drinking soda, I guess, but I wish I really felt the effects of less sugar from it.
Sudden_Herpes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People don't realize that 2 sugary drinks a day can amount to 500 calories easily
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's worth giving the sugar free versions a try. They taste just as good once you adjust to the slightly different sweetness have only a few calories per serving so will have no impact on weight gain. The fizziness might still cause short term bloating though.
tPRoC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The key is finding the good diet versions. Diet Coke tastes like ass for example, but Diet Dr.Pepper and Diet Gingerale taste basically identical to the real thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:37 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coke Zero is actually really good, I could never go back to diet.
TheTigerbite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:24:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can tell you drinking nothing but sugar drinks does not make me feel heavier. Nor does it make me heavier. I think I need more sugar in my drinks.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:31:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Sinai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I need stimulants to keep going.
Caffeine is somewhat milder than cocaine.
tPRoC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caffeine isn't really bad for you.
Toux ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:27:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No shot sherlock.
Tortillaish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:19:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors hate you
EmperorKira ยท 639 points ยท Posted at 18:31:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I am very guilty of this. They say if u are thirsty, it's too late. And I am thirsty all the time..
Edit: I already had blood test, not diabetic.
[deleted] ยท 591 points ยท Posted at 19:02:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to enjoy waiting til I was super thirsty and then CHUGGING a butt ton of water.. the sweet relief felt so good, I thought I was doing something right.
-StopRefresh- ยท 1742 points ยท Posted at 19:39:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should try choking yourself when you jerk off.
[deleted] ยท 183 points ยท Posted at 19:48:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oddly enough.. nah, nvm.
iPlaya ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:53:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God damn, made me laugh so hard in the office
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me 2
j1mb0b ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:49:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know that scientists call that an asphyxiwank?
True story.
kingmanthe1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:54:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jar-of-plasma ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:37:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the ol' stroke-n'-choke
8696David ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The funky spiderman
hudshmote ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/evenwithcontext
sobrien6187 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why? That's why I have neighbors.
zenthor109 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:52:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then what am I supposed to pay that little taiwanese boy for?
TeePlaysGames ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh. Okay.
ExtraBaconPlz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but then how do i click the next button
TehhBlob ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:07:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use a noose.
nolotusnotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's way better when someone else does it.
BasilHaydensBitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This applies to so many ask reddit threads.
Hgbhj5654 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would recommend wearing a batman costume alsp
Infinitealone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Marking this for comment of the year already
Sinner13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't tie anything off.
Whereismycoat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:14:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wut
OzzyF ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:25:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good ol blue face blaster
SmokinPolecat ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found Michael Hutchence
Culinarytracker ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 19:05:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I never realized this about myself until now.
QueenJillybean ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But other people do this more regularly. If your whole family does it as well, I've always wondered if this kind of thing is indicative of genes of people who were more nomadic, such as le desert, and didn't have access to water all the time? While others with more stable backgrounds? I don't know how genetics works.
JWBails ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:33:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to start being healthy: if it's good/you like it, stop.
itrunsinthefamily ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:44:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read this first as 'butt chugging' a ton of water was a bit confused how an enema was relieving your thirst. But yes, I used to chug a glass to two for the day.
tacoguy890 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:41:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps you should try BUTT-CHUGGING a ton of water instead.
rahyveshachr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:07:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People always pushed me to drink more water but I'd pee it out immediately. It took MONTHS for my body to get used to it and I feel a lot better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I PEE SO MUCH. I've been drinking 60-120oz a day pretty regularly since june. it's gotten a bit better, but good lord the bladder feels.
Helms_Slave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. My favorite part of waking up after a night of heavy drinking is slamming that huge ass glass of water. Feels great.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
especially when you wake up in the middle of the night, chug that butt-ton and then pass out. hangover avoided!!
pajam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:57:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would imagine a button of water is not that much, especially since most of the water would flow through the holes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That first glass of cold water after a night of drinking... so good
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so accurate
severoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pharmaSEEE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like how close this sounds to butt-chugging...
Mae1148 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as butt CHUGGING water
simbordski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I second this; it is such an awesome feeling. Just wondering, are there any downsides to this?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i mean, i'm assuming it's better to be well-hydrated consistently than ricocheting between dehydrated and overhydrated.. oversaturated, if you will.
what_a_thrill ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 19:22:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who says that? If you're thirsty it means drink some water. It's not "too late" any more than being hungry is too late.
[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 19:33:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nonsense. If you're already hungry, it's too late to eat. It's fate. You're doomed to starvation.
iwishiwasaunicorn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sometimes i forget to eat for the whole day and get super fucking hungry before dinner and i feel that rainstick cracking noise in the back of my head, and i feel like my digestive organs are shrinking, and i'm so hungry i just lay down and can't move for hours and just accept my starvation until morning.
El_Daniel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Never do anything out of hunger, not even eating,"
Thanks Vince Vaughn
SirNoName ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:37:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's something that is mentioned for heat stroke. If you are doing activity outside when it is hot and sunny and you're working, then you should drink constantly and not wait until you are thirsty.
If you're just sitting at your desk, then you're fine drinking when you're thirsty.
ClearlyDense ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:24:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The way I heard it was that if you're thirsty, your body is already lacking in water, the same way that if you're hungry, your body is already lacking in food/energy. Not that you're dehydrated or starving, just that preemptively drinking/eating is a good thing
AreDreamsOurParallel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's too late. You're going to die.
EmperorKira ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:47:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the info posters I see say that. Course I don't think its that drastic like you're going to die thirsty, but it means you are already dehydrated.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being dehydrated is a serious condition, and it is not the same as being thirsty. Thirst is just a signal that your body's normal amount of hydration has dropped. It could be as low as a 1% drop. You'd have to ignore it for a while or lose a lot of fluids to sweat (or other means) before actual dehydration would occur.
asleepatthewhee1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's too late in the sense that you can't avoid becoming dehydrated because you already are.
Baial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If only humans had some sort of structure, like the glomerulus.
Quenz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:58:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been drinking at least a gallon a day for several years now. I think as a result, it makes me chronically thirsty. I never like being too far away from water for more than an hour.
eksyneet ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:36:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you should probably get your blood sugar checked, just to be safe.
Quenz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:44:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know I'm not diabetic. I just had a military entrance physical and they went through all the things. So far, they haven't said anything.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:06:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they don't want to upset you
ClearlyDense ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also sodium levels
Noumenon72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone through this three times. The waking up at night to drink water, the constant thirst. I never got diabetes. I just had to train myself to stop drinking water every hour or every time I got thirsty. You have to figure humans didn't evolve with a water source nearby to sip from every 20 minutes, drinking too much isn't natural.
herman_gill ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:01:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you're taxing your kidneys for no good reason and pissing out electrolytes like magnesium and potassium in quantities that you probably shouldn't be.
Reduce your salt intake and your water intake slowly, no one needs a gallon of water a day and it's far from optimal, unless you're running a marathon everyday.
your_rectum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God I thought I was the only one. I've been in the same boat for about 3 years now and at this point, if I forget my water bottle, I just have to go buy a new one because I get too thirsty otherwise.
input ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:21:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Polynesia? Have you been checked for diabetes. Probably nothing.
chardop ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:18:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this may be a symptom of diabetes, just FYI
Tinfoilpain ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:31:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My heart is beating... Accodring to WebMD I have diabetic super cancer... and aids
spazmodic- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's actually ultra AIDS... RIP
Neat_On_The_Rocks ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:49:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a sticky note right on my work monitor that says "DRINK WATER". Takes up the whole sticky note.
I had the same thing on my college laptop back in the day, if that is more your age group.
I even have a "Drink water" sticky note on my bathroom mirror.
Your body can use a whole hell of a lot of water, and if you aren't used to drinking enough, you'll be shocked of how much it helps to simply hydrate.
Sounds like for you personally, you might be like me. My doctor said that some people just simply need more water than others. I used to have the feeling of thirst ALL THE FUCKING TIME. It never ended. Even now that I hydrate normally I still find myself feeling thirsty too often. Just the way I am, I suppose.
TLDR: go to excessive lengths to drink water.
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like my god, I'm playing a game at my computer and putting away what is like 2 litres in no time and having to stop to go and get more.
I've easily drank a gallon of water since I got home from work. But it just feels so good to drink it.
therapistiscrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have an app that reminds me. It's pretty helpful.
Vampiriffic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:47:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful, being thirsty all the time can be indicative of some health problems like diabetes too.
EmperorKira ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I got checked for diabetes, I'm clear. I think it's just that I literally don't drink anything, like 2 glasses a day.
realigion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people are chronically dehydrated, but also if you're concerned get checked for hypothyroidism. It surfaces in a lot of weird ways like this. Always thirsty, lips dry, feet cold, etc. all the minor discomforts that a person can have basically.
I'm borderline hypothyroid and don't take medication but might start eventually. I'm never actually cold but my feet are always freezing.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:07:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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TheUncertainty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I'm only 26. Should I just wait 4 more years?
am0x ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have opposite problem. I am never thirsty. I used to go a couple days without water.
iamNebula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No offense but that sounds rediculous. A day maybe, but two!?
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea it is weird. I started to force myself to drink. Up to 64 ounces a day. I would also only piss once a day. Couldn't be healthy but I just wasn't thirsty. Maybe I got it via foods.
Alooffoola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's common for people of certain ancestry to require very little water. Many native Americans from the southwest have been reported to go days if not a week without water and only minor discomfort.
dolce-far-niente ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I recently started using this app to remind me to drink water regularly during the day.
EmperorKira ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks I think I will use it
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ugh, me too, gurl ๐
#thethirstisreal
frzferdinand72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yasss b
Vindexus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need a \ before the # to escape reddit's formatting.
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thx, boo ๐
Cloudy_mood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat an apple. It's like 85% water. Seriously. Apples also fight bad breath.
HoldMyWater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a myth.
Drinking before thirst is like breathing manually. It's hard to do right and your body does it better naturally. Drink when you're thirsty.
Sunnydata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just in case get blood work - this can be a sign of Diabetes.
Source - I'm Diabetic
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I call bullshit. Thirst means body needs water. No thirst = body does not need water.
cardioZOMBIE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best way to stay hydrated is to buy a reusable water bottle you like and then LITERALLY TAKE IT EVERYWHERE. I go nowhere without mine; it's great.
numberIV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The part about it being too late if you're thirsty is complete bs though. The purpose of thirst is to tell you that you need to drink. You're not already dehydrated. They don't tell you that you're already starving by the time you're hungry.
grecoromanumpire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could be the diabetes
r7ndom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I've experienced since I was a teen. Now I consume hundreds of ounces of fluid in a day, which isn't all that great in the afternoon or in middle of the night when you drank a liter of water right before bed... Note that I say this after drinking two sodas, two glasses of tea, two pints of beer, and at least five glasses of water in the last three hours.
It isn't a compulsion at a mental level (I never think about it) , I'm just thirsty most of the time and will drink when I've got it.
tourmaline82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm always thirsty too, have been ever since I was a little kid. My doctor tests me regularly for diabetes (it runs in the family), but so far my blood sugar is just fine. I just make sure to keep a glass or bottle of water nearby and refill it whenever it gets low.
Now I'm taking spironolactone for hormonal acne and wow, I really crave water now. And salt. Mmm, salty goodness. (For those wondering, spironolactone reduces the amount of sodium your body can absorb. So a lot of the sodium you eat goes down the drain with your various wastes, and your body goes "Wait a minute, I'm trying to maintain my electrolyte balance here! Gimme more salt!")
Reticent_Fly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always had the same issue. Blood tests have never come back for diabetes, and I'm in better than average shape... I looked into Magnesium deficiency symptoms, and started taking a supplement which seems to help a little bit, but it's still noticeable.
ibanez6224 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard this so many times. But I also heard that just listening to your body is enough. When you feel thirst, drink.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your body has a thirst mechanism for a reason. It is not too late when you're thirsty. Godamn, why does everyone believe this shit?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a bit of a myth -- about it being too late. Our bodies are pretty good at alerting us when we need hydration. Drink when you're thirsty. No more, no less.
thesubconscious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nah your body is wired to tell you to drink long before it actually needs water. Dont worry too much
virtualghost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im thirsty all the time too, not diabetic. I can't seem to find the cause. If I drink too much I get headaches because of overhydration
y-c-c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no science behind that claim! If I remember there's in fact publications to the contrary. Basically you should be fine drinking water when you are thirsty instead of forcing yourself to drink even when you don't particularly feel like it. Your body produces that sensation for a reason you knowโฆ
srd42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:29 on January 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What helped me start drinking more water in general more than any other thing was to just start every day by drinking water. When you wake up is often when you are most dehydrated and by sticking to this one habit you realize that it really is possible to make incremental positive changes and you might become more likely to drink more water throughout the day.
At least this is what I have found. There are also many articles about this being an effective first step.
TL;DR: Drink water as soon as you wake up.
heartbeats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP
Amp4All ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:06:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, thirst means you're already about 1-2% dehydrated. I always use the rule of thumb that thirst is 3/4th of the way to [severe] dehydration.
Plus! - Being well hydrated helps you be in a better mood (see link), think more clearly, and helps you feel full (because sometimes you'll feel hungry and want to snack, when really what you need is water).
andr8009 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:35:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a silver bullet though and some people are exaggerating how much water you actually need to drink to stay hydrated. Here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbHp7cu2Ubk
mrthemike ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:31:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And here's an article: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/upshot/no-you-do-not-have-to-drink-8-glasses-of-water-a-day.html?_r=1&abt=0002&abg=0
MCskeptic ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:27:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there any way to stay well hydrated without having to piss every 30 minutes?
choadsauce ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:40:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a well placed clothespin
nolotusnotes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:06:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. But you don't want it.
gallowswinger83 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:35:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Proven medical fact that After awhile when you drink 40 gallons of water a day for 2 straight months your bladder will enlarge to be able to only have to piss once every two weeks.
saucecode ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:50:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always have a drink (usually water, but not always) in a glass or bottle with me at all times. As soon as one feels somewhat parched, a sip of water is sitting right there.
I have no idea how other people get by drinking so little so rarely.
Segfault-er ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am one of those people who just don't seem to drink enough (save for coffee). I just don't notice. Same thing if you're hungry. You just don't notice after a while
matthewgstat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, if you're male, being well hydrated makes your dick more full and hangy. Just sayin.
GreyReanimator ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:41:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What happens if your a girl? I don't want a hangy vagina
playing_the_angel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:32:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because of your comment I just went and grabbed a water out of the fridge! =)
crazyal_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:57:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't over do it or you'll get headaches to die for.
loco_coco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:02:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Adequate water intake also greatly helps your digestive system. If you're having trouble pooping, drink a lot of water over the course of the day. It will help a lot!
Genital-Jamboree ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:16:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think getting your vagina fang removed would change everything:)
Edit: Um I'm sorry, I meant to reply to a comment above yours but this one is too funny to delete...
Occams_Dental_Floss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You lay off my Vagina Fang, genital-tambourine man!
bigblackkittie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
vagina fangs could come in handy
MeekMiII ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:29:24 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lolll, so le randum!!!!!111!! XDXD XD
ehoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stay thirsty my friends
ISimplyFallenI ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Around June/July I completely removed sugary drinks from my life and switched to only water. It's amazing how much just changing what you drink can make you feel a lot different.
mystery_redditor007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does tea count as water? I mean does it have any bad side effects? I drinks loads of it daily.
mrthemike ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/upshot/no-you-do-not-have-to-drink-8-glasses-of-water-a-day.html?_r=1&abt=0002&abg=0
scottylebot ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tea is a diuretic which will make you piss more and dehydrate you. So no, not really.
Doomextreme ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'Proof needed'
Drudicta ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:43:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus it helps a ton in hot, dry weather. I would know, I live in a desert. :D
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only drink water and booze. Weird thing is that I am never thirsty. I have to force myself to drink water everyday. Even before I started drinking s minimum of 64oz.
rahyveshachr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also helps prevent constipation.
Source: pregnancy was the straw on the camel's back for my poor GI system.
datorangeguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you trying to say that water is healthy or some shit? Get outta town!
stuffandmorestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think people really think of it that way though. Like, yeah you need water to survive. But it's probably the single easiest and hugely effective thing you can do to make your self feel better. No big diet change, you don't need to work out all the time. You can eat crap, smoke, and drink still. Just drink more water and you'll notice a big difference. Especially since most people don't drink nearly enough a day.
datorangeguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I make fun of friends that don't drink enough. When I hiked a lot I developed the habit of drinking close to a gallon per day, and while I'm not at that level anymore it never fully went away.
stuffandmorestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When spring comes around and my allergies are really bad I'll usually drink about 100 ozs a day. It definitely makes a huge difference.
BlaineCraner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me think what's the deal with all the "don't get overhydrated" commercials.
ufbam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was awful at drinking enough water. Got an app for my phone the other day, 'water balance'. Now it's like a game to try and keep hydrated. Definitely took the tired look from my eyes..
DishwasherTwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always have a glass of water next to me.
bigblackkittie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i wish drinking water helped with my chapped lips. i drink a ton of water but it makes no difference.
Solesaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is my number one advice. Just carry a water bottle with you everywhere and keep it full.
hothotsauce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I misread headaches as heartaches and now I am disappointed.
madein1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the rule is, drink half your body weight in ounces everyday.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Completely agree! I have a habit of keeping 1 litre juice/cordial bottles once they are done and using them as giant water bottles. Fill them up, add a bit of juice if your feeling fancy, and carry them everywhere. I have about half a dozen around the house or in the fridge at one time, and one in my handbag. My skin has never looked so good, I no longer have headaches (which I assume was maybe from a bit of dehydration) and its helped with a more active/healthier lifestyle.
Its such a small change I think, but the benefits are massive. Plus, I'm a tad tight-fisted. I can't imagine paying for bottled water everyday when our tap water is pretty decent and free.
Zinski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Major ๐.
Major
sean7755 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure increasing my water intake is what cured the mild-moderate acne that I've had for 8 years.
ggixxer599 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This wins the thread! Water is so important to your life and well being.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try to get into the habit of drinking one cup of water per hour. That will keep you sufficiently hydrated, and is habit-forming.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also helps with not dying
Dayz15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I drink like 3 a 4 bubble water bottles a day but if i dont drink them i get a headache. I think im addicted to the ice cold watee bottles.
krizutch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've found that my crippling headaches are very attractive to women so I'm going to have to call BS on this one...
=/
Norse_of_60 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I drink a ton of water but it has the opposite effect. Mind you I substituted water with vodka.
arclathe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Cosmo.
createsstuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
READ THIS PLS Having a water dispenser next to my bed has drastically increased how much water I drink. Mine is a simple ceramic one with a 5 gallon carboy on top. Put one where you spend the most waking time at home with a nice visible cup and it's crazy how fast you go through it.
EchoSi3rra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also makes you have to go pee all the time.
bluepandadog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But water tastes so bad and bottled water is too expensive
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also find people who will have water at dinner over soda/milkshakes look more fancy. Alcohol excluded from this, obviously. People who read the wine list always LOOK more cultured.
Reddit-Fusion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been drinking only water for a year. I guess I have bad genetics.
gordo65 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, get some sleep.
chironomidae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breathing is also very important. People who don't breathe very much often get a blue tint to their skin that has always been a big turn off for me.
It's also a bit of a turn-off for me personally when people never eat or find shelter from the elements .
mrthemike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind though, drinking 8 glasses of water per day is a complete myth; there's no scientific proof drinking extra water has any benefit. Your body is very good at letting you know when you need to drink. However, when you do drink something, water is the best option.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/upshot/no-you-do-not-have-to-drink-8-glasses-of-water-a-day.html?_r=1&abt=0002&abg=0
jrd_dthsqd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dont forget.. You also nees it to live. Its not trendy its survival
atomater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, the ๐ is to drink water, then?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the past I would reach for a coffee during the day when I was feeling tired. Turns out dehydration is one of the primary causes of drowsiness, I started drinking a bunch of water and now I never feel tired unless I get very little sleep.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is such bullshit yet EVERYONE just blindly believes it. I would like to know where this misconception started...
gofiguree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can tell if I don't drink water. I will never understand those who hate water. It fuels me!
Carl_the_Glorious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've found that... drinking water hasn't helped a lot. I rarely drink soda anymore, if only a small glass to compliment a meal more completely. But the majority of the time I drink water, and a lot of it. It makes me feel like crap (gives my stomach that butterflies feel), and while I do believe waking up is... somewhat easier, all the other effects are fairly nonexistent. The only reason I really drink it is because I dislike soda and it tastes better (I do a fair amount of lifting and moving).
Poof_ace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also reduces swelling in your ankles
Doublestack00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This, I cut out everything except alcohol about 2 years ago. I very seldom get sick, have lost and kept weight of, saved boatloads of cash not buying soda/tea when eating out and feel better overall.
Sudden_Herpes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just avoiding drinking calories does wonders for your health
therapistiscrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. Part of my new year's resolution is to drink the right amount of water daily. I was never getting anywhere close to it before. Now I'm more energetic, my mind is the clearest it's been in a long time and it's even helping keep cravings in check. And, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's even helping my mood. The things proper hydration can do is amazing.
jamesbiff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't just make you look more awake, you are more awake. I love coffee, but nothing wakes me up quicker in the morning than a pint of chilled water.
If you always feel tired the number one thing I would ask is are you getting enough water, I drink two to 3 litres a day and rarely feel tired or worn down.
IAmBroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough, it keeps you more alert, too. I've stayed up all night without getting sleepy, and without caffeine or other drugs, simply by drinking lots of water. When I wanted to then go to bed, I did... no post-coffee jitters stopping me.
ALexusOhHaiNyan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late, but. Yeah. Then there's my sister/roomate who takes that advice and can't get a decent nights sleep because she's up 2-4 times a night to pee. Or can't go 45 minutes without peeing without exaggeration.*
Now she has health problem because of it (and other horseshit white girl food issues). And has chronically low electrolytes from obsessively drinking water (thereby flushing out minerals and throwing off the balance) due to trendy advice meme she read years ago.
Bottom Line : Drinking ____ cups a day is debunked, shitty advice. Drinking A glass of water in the morning, and eating vegetables will absolutely give you the hydration and benefits you need. Further adjustment for diuretics or if your low on water retaining carbs for the days eating.
*Or can't give 10 god damn minutes in the bathroom alone without saying "I have to pee!". But no, nah, I'm not bothered. I'm cool. Really.
TL;DR Drink a tall glass in the morning before breaking fast. Eat vegatables. Adjust accordingly. And that's good enough.
stuffandmorestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the same note, MOISTURIZE! I know it seems girly, but as a guy it makes your skin look 100% better and people notice.
Good skin is the most underrated attribute IMO. (No offense here...) You know those overweight people you see and think, man if only they lost a few pounds....Well I'll bet 9 times out of 10 they've got great skin.
Z0idberg_MD ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:43:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am skeptical of this.
fuckface92 ยท 978 points ยท Posted at 20:50:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put a black line on my eyelid and bam! I go from a 3 to a 3.5
[deleted] ยท 500 points ยท Posted at 22:15:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Firecracker500 ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 23:38:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, more like 3/5
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:45:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A rock solid 5/7
KatzOfficial ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:10:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The joke was about the three fifths compromise. :P
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:50:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understood the joke, i was making my own joke. Apparently i failed
JazzyDoes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:31:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I rate that movie a 5/7"
facepalm
Edit: I got it and it made me laugh
Yupstillhateme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You did
Ian_uhh_Malcom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perfect!
mattlag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
5/7?
CoolMachine ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:02:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too much.
I just draw cat whiskers.
fuckface92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's truly how to maximize cuteness!!
fuckface92 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:09:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yes. Gorgeous!!
CaptainUnderrated ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you have the right cheese in the fridge. The wrong cheese is like a 20-point deduction
RubiconGuava ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:42:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much cheese is too much cheese?
IKilledJamesSkinner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any amount of cheese before a date is too much cheese!
Thatoneguywhofailed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
41 years, 5 months?
TheObstruction ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:02:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds legit.
username_redacted ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can never go wrong with blackface.
chubbyurma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you al Jolson?
SaeculumObscure ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:59:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put some on your other eyelid too! Then you're already a 4!
Edit: Now it's symetrical, people like this. I guess that makes you a 5!
qzzqzq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, a 120/10
Tonku ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:36:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry you aren't more beautiful, fuckface92
fuckface92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay. With the power of make up my face gets a little less fucky everyday!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:10 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think she's pretty
purple_shmurple ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:59:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well-done liquid eyeliner makes a huge difference.
might_be_myself ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:47:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love wearing eyeliner, from average to performance artist in 60 seconds.
fuckface92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah. It's pure witchcraft
Tylensus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:56:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3.5/5 maybe. You know damn well you're not a 3/10. >_>
Your hair's rockin' btw.
fuckface92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw! Thank you!!
Not_A_Korean ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think my attractiveness actually goes down. I'm bad at eyeliner :(
fuckface92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do too, it takes me damn near an hour just to do a simple cat eye
Yupstillhateme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PMmeyourtits_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you put more lines and I drink more beers, our chances of hooking up increase.
fuckface92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drunken tiger hookups are best hookups
troyaguey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:06:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain this profoundly please?
krokodilchik ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:16:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyeliner.
elephantnut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment is freaking adorable.
jbrown7815 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:19:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Applicable name
Smalls_Biggie ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd fuck your face if it had a black line on it.
Dawn_Of_The_Dave ยท 6252 points ยท Posted at 15:46:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've learnt that as a man I can either get away with scruffy hair or a scruffy beard, but never both. I'm currently rocking short neat hair and a stubbly tramps beard.
sylinmino ยท 1976 points ยท Posted at 18:51:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scruffy everything gives off the impression that you don't care for how you look.
When you have parts that are deliberately neater and more styled, the parts that are scruffy look more deliberate.
[deleted] ยท 1462 points ยท Posted at 20:23:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just the impression that I don't care. It's an accurate observation.
JoseyGunner ยท 286 points ยท Posted at 22:03:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care if people think I'm homeless. I'm not. Fuck 'em.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:30:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no one wants to mess with the crazy homeless guy
JoseyGunner ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:51:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if I comb my hair I become the Crazy Employable Guy?
Damn, I'm about ten years behind on that angle.
backcountry52 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:54:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have long hair and crazy scruffy beard. Also gainfully employed. Yayyyyy
Vleda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you build towers? I work with maybe 15 of you.
backcountry52 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:23:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah I build magnets. There's maybe like three of me where I work.
Gutterflame ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:01:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You build magnets? Can you shed any light on how they work?
It's a big question around these parts.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking magnets.
Vleda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Motha' fuckin' magic.
JimJardashian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful how you address a wizard. He could incinerate you with a wave of his hand.
TheWistfulWanderer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How long, exactly? I also have long hair and a scruffy beard, but most guys seem to disagree with me what "long hair" means.
backcountry52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't have an exact measurement, but it's down past my shoulders at this point.
SuperFLEB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"How come you never see Crazy Homeless Guy and Crazy Employable Guy in the same place at the same time? Nah, that's just silly. Never mind I said it."
pheymanss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, maybe Kesha.
nolotusnotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I see someone walking down the street talking to themselves, I'm assuming crazy. I'm not going to investigate for Bluetooth.
FarSightXR-20 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keeps the gold diggers away. :P
Ta2whitey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:23:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the sweet smelling poor girls
FarSightXR-20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
<3
Spark_Seeker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:48:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All my friends are already calling me homeless, but the truth is worse... I'm just lazy as fuck.
SuperFLEB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Know where I'm going? Home. Where nobody gives a shit.
JoseyGunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:24 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Preach! My couch doesn't judge.
yourderek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's difficult to fuck'em if they think you're homeless.
Folly_Inc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's unlikely that you will.
Cumsumyung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh... My mantra as an engineering student in college
TiberiCorneli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you look like Moses after 40 years in the desert, there's probably some really kinky, uber-religious chicks you could pick up.
Suspiciously_high ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if they think you're homeless they won't let you fuck 'em
Cheveyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, maybe they'll give me a dollar or something.
bitcleargas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always make an effort after a bad night out to try and bring some respect back to the situation... I'm currently sitting at work with brushed hair and a nice jumper... All of my colleagues know that last night must have been a messy one.
ottawapainters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well ok, but your parents would probably like to turn that basement into an income generator at some point.
JoseyGunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait wait wait... "Income Generator"? Where the hell have I been for ten years?
Erzmagier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, it's like an ordinary generator, but it generates income.
Only really worth it when the gas is cheap tho.
tacomonday ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A meth lab. Hes talking about a meth lab in the basement.
Jewnadian ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:26:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you lost? The title of the thread is ways to make yourself more attractive. If you don't care if people are attracted to you why the fuck are you here?
JoseyGunner ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:31:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because some internet stranger offended me.
t765234 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:44:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confi
CoolTom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:50:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least he clicked sa
Raptorclaw621 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:19:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no guys I think they
axlvonhymengrinder ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:41:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Springheel Jack is at it aga
Suckonmyfatvagina ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're all reta
cookaymus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's happe
AbsolutlyN0thin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I d
MSE93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I came here to finish my comment.
MSE93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shi
Suckonmyfatvagina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well fu
SuperLo-Fi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:43:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy is correct. I have a beard and long hair. Idgaf.
darkneo86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm married and in the same IT job for the last ten years. I started my first few years with dry cleaned clothes. Then just dry cleaned pants. Then polos and nice pants.
I'm lucky to even bother wearing pants now. Let alone shave and worry about my balding head.
JackSpringer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:14:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My man!
TheStooner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Going for the old Einstein look, you know? Babes dig brains.
Jerilo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then, if I may ask, what are you doing in this thread?
the_river_nihil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being punk as fuck.
I for one think it's adorable.
TedUpvo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey look, my catch-phrase.
mealzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like your non style
Chuurp ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:14:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also applies to clothes/hair.
I've noticed that I can get away with fairly scruffy looking clothes if my hair's good. It just looks like a style. Once I let my hair go a bit though, it just looks sloppy.
Sloppy hair also sometimes looks like a style if I'm wearing nicer clothes. That one seems to be a little more hit or miss though.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:07:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also applies to just clothes. You can have a really distressed piece mixed in with some cleaner pieces and it just looks fashionable. Go all distressed pieces and you just look homeless.
the_river_nihil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I, like, the only one around who has a genuine love of homeless fashion? You can have a completely crust-punk fashion sense if you compliment it with a kind personality and a striking intellect.
I want a partner wearing dumpster-dived denim cut-offs, a promotional t-shirt, accidental dreadlocks, and a bachelors in engineering. But hey, that's just one mans opinion.
sylinmino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, all the while, the different articles should still match.
TehNoff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I generally don't, but them I'm already married so I ain't tryin' to impress no one. That, and I can't really grow facial hair.
sylinmino ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:34:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to tell you how to live your life, but I'd be cautious about that mindset. One of the secrets to an extremely happy and long lasting marriage is to never stop trying to woo your spouse. This can be in many different forms, obviously, but the important thing is to not treat the actual wedding like the endgame where it can stagnate past that.
Idk, just putting it out there. Feel free to disagree with me. One of the nice things about marriage I guess as well is that you don't always have to remain at the top of your game. But you should still try for it once in a while, right?
Though if you keep a good haircut and don't grow facial hair, that's already a chunk of the battle.
Vleda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In other words, your wife should always be your girlfriend. (If that makes sense)
sylinmino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly.
I'll admit, I'm not married (still in college), but my parents have taught me a ton about healthy marriage just by how they treat it. I this respect, the sentence you used really does apply. Both my mom and dad still go to the gym at least 2-3 times a week (my mom goes like 5 times a week), still try to surprise each other with new clothing (whether on themselves or for each other), have a date night at least once every week or two. Even when my parents are lounging around in the house and don't have their hair or clothing super well done, they're still showered and not looking bad or disgusting by any means.
Malawi_no ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit like the old beaten down WV Beetle I saw a while ago. The paintjob was faded and it was full of (surface) rust. But it was spotless when it came to dirt, and the rims were shiny.
Looked really cool, while a bit of grime and different wheels would have left a very different impression.
BigBearChaseMe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most men are terrible at grooming themselves. After working in technology for 15 years I know what I am talking about.
sylinmino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to convince me. I'm a CompSci student in a School of Engineering.
SerDancelot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read your username as stylinmino. It seems appropriate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think if you are athletic and clean, it doesn't matter how scruffy facial/head hair are. Clothing can be unimpressive too as long as it's not falling apart.
Luv_water ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've just never really been into styling my hair. I rarely brush it and it's always messy. But I dress nice, am clear skinned and clean shaven always.
sylinmino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I hardly style my hair either. I just keep it short. But I'm almost always clean shaven and dress nicely. And as long as the food I eat is healthy and I'm working out consistently, my skin stays pretty clear too.
_brainfog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're a surfer.
hypothetically_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends who they're trying to impress, I guess. As a lady, I find some scruff basically irresistible. Bonus points of you're wearing thick rimmed glasses. I should stop before I get carried away...
sylinmino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the key--some scruff shows that you do care how you look, but don't care too much so you're not insecure about it. It shows attention to oneself, but relaxation about it. At least, that's what I'm theorizing.
But out of curiosity (not because I'm challenging you, but because I'm curious), what if the guy not only had messy hair and facial hair, but also always walked around in a worn out t-shirt, gym shorts or sweatpants, and flip flops? That's what I'd think of as an overload of "scruff", no?
It's also a matter of how that person carries it, no? A CompSci student who just spent the last 15 hours in the engineering building has levels of scruff that is hard to really consider attractive. And that's far different than that of someone who just came back from a backpacking trip and didn't shave while on it. I should also mention that I've been in both of these scenarios :).
circa717 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe hipster?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah exactly. I think there's some sort of psychological appeal to women as well. We want a man that's well-groomed and domesticated enough to fit in with society, but not too much.
People hate on this type of style a lot, but that's exactly where the appeal comes from. I bet that beard actually requires a fair amount of upkeep, but it doesn't look like it does.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:53:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Luv_water ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why I wear nice clothes. It takes no effort. You're gonna put on cloths anyways. And nice clothes just feel nice on me.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Luv_water ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I agree. I spend a lot of time making sure I do my laundry correctly, as well as ironing. I just like wearing nice looking clothes all of the time cause it feels good, and it supplements the fact that my hair is always messy cause I honestly don't know wtf to do with it. But, once you have a sizable collection of nice clothes, it takes very little effort to just grab something out of the closet and throw it on, knowing that no matter what, it looks nice.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 20:31:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:06:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it offends anyone, it just probably makes you look more attractive to them if you don't do that. That's what this whole thread's about.
rawbface ยท 5094 points ยท Posted at 18:52:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap you're right. I never put it together before, but if I'm bumming it and do my hair, I look rugged, while if I'm clean shaven but leave my hair messy I look suave. But if I'm scruffy and my hair is messy I look homeless... Nice insight.
Tequilaa_Mockingbird ยท 1595 points ยท Posted at 19:16:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but what would you look like with clean shaven and done hair?
peteisneat ยท 4634 points ยท Posted at 19:36:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP, but when I do that I look like I'm 12.
[deleted] ยท 1048 points ยท Posted at 19:43:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP either, but can confirm. Look like a child when I do that.
[deleted] ยท 599 points ยท Posted at 20:37:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 31 and I have to show ID if I try to buy beer after shaving. Some people say that's good for me, but I'm honestly not so sure.
ritchie70 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 22:25:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that'll end soon enough. Just enjoy it.
Source: 47. No longer look 20 like I did when I was 30.
justmovingtheground ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:28:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just turned 36. I will always remember this as the age when I stopped getting carded every time. I stopped pulling out my ID because I got tired of hearing "You're ok, sir!" It's enough to make a man quit drinking.
BoringLawyer79 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:16:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
36 is also the age when you've been an adult longer than you were a kid...
It didn't seem like a big birthday until I realized that.
ritchie70 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:35:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Before I started getting the grey on the sides to go with the thin on top, if I thought they might card me I just gave them a big grin and showed them all the crow's feet.... :)
Gutterlungz1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People always assume I'm much younger than I am, which sucked as a early 20s or a teenager. Now I'm almost 30 and people usually think about 22-23. I need to stop smoking though. I feel like it's gonna catch up to me.
breakingb0b ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:03:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Was IDed until 40. Doesn't happen any more.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... Do you look like you're 35 now?
ritchie70 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a good day I might persuade someone I'm 40, I guess.
FaptainAwesome ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:38:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 28 and if I stay clean cut and shaven I look like my wife's teenage son. I've been rocking a short, semi-ginger beard for 4 months now and the other day when I bought wine for cooking the cashier tried to go about everything else before doing the age verification and said "Oh, you're old enough." I felt pretty good about that.
But if I let it get more than about 3/4 of an inch in length I look like I just crawled out of the gutter and am going to stab you for a ham sandwich.
brazalien ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:05:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always ask my girlfriend when shaving/trimming if she wants the 16, 18, or 20 year old me. I'm 25. My girlfriend is 36, so I really do look like her teenage son.
EllisDee_4Doyin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:27:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy's laying with a cougar ;)
the_salubrious_one ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:09:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. I'm 40 and still get asked. I look young for my age, but not THAT young. I think there are some bouncers or clerks who ask everyone.
InfiniteHatred ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:05:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of places that sell booze have a policy of carding everyone. It makes sense just to cover their asses. Also, if they get the same kind of treatment a lot of tobacco shops get, then the narcs probably come in somewhat regularly to secretly test that they're carding people.
FlintShaman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:32:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back when I worked for an unnamed gas station we had a guy get fired like this in the most ridiculous way. The policy is if they look under 40 you card them. Guy comes in and buys a pack of smokes. This man is obviously old enough to pass this test so he doesn't get carded. As soon as the sell was final you hear him laugh in glee while slamming his I.D. down. He was 39. Poor dude got fired that night over that BS. I learned that day that no matter how old they look (even 90) I'm going to card you. You can complain until you are purple in the face. My job is on the line.
eldlammet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:33:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn... That's so harsh, I can't believe the guy laughed when he was effectively removing the clerks income. What an asshole.
FlintShaman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:58:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are people who thrive off the suffering of others. It's cruel and wrong but such is the world. Life is a harsh place. If you can't thrive in it or speak the doublespeak around then you lose. I learned that no matter how much sympathy you spread if you aren't ready to cover all your bases it's over.
sunnyjum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... surely you don't have to check them if their ID says they're under 40, only if they LOOK under 40. Otherwise the age on the ID determines the age that you check the age on the ID, which renders itself redundant.
That really sucks for the guy you used to work with.
FlintShaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is. It's actually hugely redundant but how do you gauge someone's specific age like that just on sight. I think the point is to check everyone's ID but in order for corporate to make a show about "fast friendly service" they have to do something to show that they "expedite the process". It all boils down to no matter what your situation is you can easily be replaced and in this economy it isn't hard.
Gutterlungz1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I used to work door at a place like this. Our policy was to card everyone even the grey haired lady with the walker with the tennis balls on the bottom of it. I've lived in Europe and travelled the world and the whole 21 to drink think in America is rediculous to me. I felt embarrassed having to get my manager to yay or nay letting some senior citizen into our bar. Also, on that note, when youngish Europeans would try to come into the bar with no ID and get all pissy when I asked for their ID, stating that in their country they were allowed to drink at 14 or whatwver. Yes, I know our laws in the states are rediculous but this isn't your country. Just because you can drink at 16 in Denmark doesn't mean you can in America. I'm just trying to do my job. You should know by now that you're going to get carded here in the states. And furthermore, when Europeans come into bars and restaurants and don't want to tip or act ignorant to the culture it pisses me off. If you're even remotely worldly or well traveled, you know that the service industry in the states Survives off tips. Yes, we should have a better wage for our service workers but we don't. Don't act like you "didn't know" we have a tipping culture in the states.
nimenificent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in my early twenties and am one of those people. I'm one of those that got away with everything underage from always hanging out with older people, and my high school boyfriend had such an epic beard he didn't get carded when he was 16, so I don't take chances. Plus if I card one person at a table. I card everyone. Unless they're like really obviously 45+.
vancityvic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They just want your address so they can come over and rob you of your sweet sweet karma account.
Ysmildr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Baby faced people live longer statistically
sheafers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am 12, can confirm, same problem for me.
CountBlah_Blah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 22 and look like I'm in my early 30's because of the way my beard/hair looks currently. Kind of hard to flirt with girls my age if they think I'm 10 years older than them. Having grey hair in both doesn't help either haha
tarsn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:28:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience girls around that age love older guys
CountBlah_Blah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Different areas maybe. All I know is I can get girls a good number of years older than myself so I'm not really complaining haha
AllTheSingleMateys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am clean shaven and keep neat hair, also in military.
NeonTankTop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a problem if your hairline starts to recede at 25
Silent-G ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:15:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hairline started to recede at 22, everything else was thinning by 24, currently 25 and recently decided to just stop trying to hide it and shave it all off. It's so much easier to just shave my head once a week and not have to think about it rather than spending every single day trying to comb my hair just right and keep it that way for the whole day.
jaysrule24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 20 and my hairline has been slowly receding since high school. I got lucky though, my brother had to start shaving his heading his junior year because he was already going bald (receding hairline combined with a big bald spot on the crown of his head).
NeonTankTop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:32 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear ya brother. I finally shaved my head at 30 and now it's just one less thing to worry about. And I save $20/month on barber trips. I also realized that now that I am married and have an infant daughter, nobody gives a shit what I look like anymore anyway.
Yevad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, I feel like i get carded more often in my 30's then in my 20's because now I shave more often.
a_rucksack_of_dildos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's people who are 31 who can get deals because they look like they're retired. I think it's a good thing
TheTallestOfTopHats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 23, and people have told me I look 31, I think I will look 100 at 31 and die at 32
thoroughaway1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's good man. It means your cells are healthy.
Randomn355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends. You want to pick up 18 year olds?
Jebbediahh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When everyone else looks like Gary Oldman's scrotum, your face will be supple and sexy as stoya's asscheeks. Enjoy that knowledge.
NICKisICE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turned 28 today, expect to be carded when going out because I'm gonna shave.
I don't mind because I know I'll be able to pick up all the young hot chicks at the bars if I end up 40 and unmarried ;D
Vleda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Better than being the opposite. Rugged features, early receding hairline, built like a brick shithouse and walking with a slight limp from an injury as a kid. I looked like I was in my late 20's when I was 16. Lol
Hell, I remember once at a party when I was 17 I almost hooked up with a chick who was a year younger but she stopped me to tell me she really likes me but can't because she's only 16. I asked her why that would be a big deal and she got weird and disappeared. Turns out she thought I was the host's dad. Da'fuck?
It never really clicked to me until I realized 90% of the women I attract have daddy issues to some extent. Most people guess I'm almost 40. I shed a manly tear inside because I'm still in my early 20's.
Not trying to say I'm ugly, I just look old. Well maybe I'm a little ugly, but still.
GeneralSquatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I hate you and your genetics! Can confirm your a lucky ass!
Source: ME as i'm 22 1/3 bald and look 30 except when i shave all around then i look 18 !
PartTimeLegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 30 and shaved today. Then went out and didn't get asked for ID. I'm scared it won't happen ever again!
tang81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 35. The struggle is real. Even with a bunch of gray hair.
NotYourChild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I occasionally get carded going to the movies.....
teddyteddyteddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the long run, it's better. Score younger chicks
tenest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'll miss it when they no longer card you. :-(
Knoxie_89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is my fate at 27 I get ID'd all the time. But I can't grow a beard :(
Poof_ace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 22 and have never been asked once, clean shaven or hairy
(Australian, so that's 5 years so far)
shukeeper37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 21 and in the same exact situation. Wait.
MomoPeacheZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair though, in some states, if you look under 35 you have to be carded.
Source: I'm a cashier
w0wzers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Samething here, I'm 31 My ID picture is a picture I took when I was 12 so that doesn't help the situation.
SazzeTF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hasn't your ID expired? Here in Sweden regular IDs (like the ones from banks) expire after 5 years, and international IDs and passports after 10.
w0wzers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it does but they have auto renew so I did that every time it was going to expire, I'll be 37 when it expires but they have new Id regulations so I might have to actually get a new picture.
jblv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Arizona?
mfred01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell? I had to get a new ID when I turned 21. And then every few years after that.
w0wzers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to get a ID when I was 12 to fly(thats what i was told) then when I was 16 i got my learners permit. The person at the dmv processing me had some degree of down syndrome and they tapped the screen and didn't select the picture i just took for the permit, and then 2 weeks later I got the id and been auto renewing ever since.
Daerdemandt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:44:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, beer is good for you.
Source: sober for 5 years, stuff sucks anyway.
regalrecaller ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:58:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I look like a banker when I do that, which I think is worse. Also I look 12.
langlo94 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:10:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doogie Howser CFO?
leadCactus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you also wear a trench-coat?
ReputableImposter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:07:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Asian man in 30s, can confirm that people question if you are in Middle or High School.
eccentricelmo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:13:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
23 here, still hoping ill get a beard for my 24th....
besaah ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:34:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just get a toupee and some glue. worked for me.
Vleda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a transplant? They can extract a few pubes and give you a healthy chin dusting. Hell, the more the better, right? It's practically a win/win; less maintenance to keep your dick from looking like it came straight out of Jumanji and you get a full beard.
Nofgob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guys just need to go bald, then you just look like you have cancer.
Huntanator88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Such is the life of a bearded man. If a job requires you to shave, say goodbye to being an adult.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bald wit beard reporting in. If I shave I look like a penis or Caillou.
curtdammit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you want ID'd? Because this is how you get ID'd.
PhotoshopMogul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP either, but can confirm, I am not OP.
januarycanyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not op
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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itallblends ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
GnashtyPony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not 12, but neither am I OP
SnatchAddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't grow a beard. Fuck your beauty standards.
arasarn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I look like my sister
OhGarraty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A balding 12-year-old.
SevenFingerStud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP either, but if I am clean shaven I look 19, if I don't shave I look like a 14 year old Latino boy on his first try at facial hair.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:03:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I look like a nerd. Sure I look smart when I do but I still look weak as shit when I do that combined with the casual dress shirts I always wear and the glasses I occasionally do wear.
calliegrey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:53:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are a lot of women that would rather a guy look 12 than have to look at a beard, especially a scruffy one.
Vleda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should get a trimmer and rock the Jason Statham style 5 o'clock shadow. Best of both worlds!
macsb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10 here.
kairizell92 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:04:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i like to think i look my age when i do both but im not fooling anyone
ericcris10sen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:35:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A year ago I started growing my beard out and thought it looked okay, then decided to shave it and looked at myself and thought I looked like a little fricken kid. Never again will I shave, at least be close shaven. I'll forever have a beard of some kind lmao
the_salubrious_one ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:11:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I think it's just contrast effect. I thought I looked okay (got plenty of attention from the opposite sex as well) when clean shaven, and when I shaved after growing out a beard for a month or 2, suddenly I looked pathetically bland and unmanly. I couldn't imagine any lady being interested in me again. That feeling eventually faded as I got used to my old look again.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:43:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Practice expressions in the mirror. When viewing shows with good looking shaved men, try to imitate their expressions while watching.
TheOldTubaroo ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 20:06:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For an example of a popular look, google "blue steel"
venicello ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:14:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or "Le Tigre." I like that one better, personally.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:20:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These folks just want to attract a partner, not stop a ninja star.
I suppose one could also work on a whiny bitch pout and see if that stops blaster bolts.
Gvnd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, have been told several times.
Mount10Lion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People think I am 20-21 when I am clean shaven. I am almost 27.
JezzaN1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haven't clean shaven my face for about a year and a half as i look like a child when i do. it is honestly night and day between having some well groomed stubble and a clean shaven face for me.. i'm scared to go back.
Tittytickler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely look like a man when clean shaven and hair done... Maybe you should try a different haircut then the same one you have had for years? Im about to turn 22. With facial hair i can pull off maybe up to 30, but i definitely look my age clean shave and hair done. Right now i have chops and a goatee that have been growing since the first of dec. and people keep asking me if I have kids and talking to me about "our" generation when im actually just a stupid millennial
Saintzillla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely this. My wife hated my facial hair when I was 21 and grew shit. Now that I have a decent beard she still talks shit, but I shaved the day I proposed and she said, "What the fuck did you do?"
I looked 15...just like when we met..
Best part?
Her coworker told her I was definitely gonna propose. She said I couldn't because the ring was being sized. Expedited. Blew her mind.
the_norwegian_blue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you are.
unfoldda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same.
LewsTherinT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go on...
whyspir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, stupid baby face genetics. Though it is nice to get carded in your mid 30s.
ImNoBatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you 12?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently had a professor ask who I was halfway through a semester right after I shaved. I literally go from looking my age (20) to 15.
fenix3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looking manly is walking a fine line between looking like a kid or looking like a bum, apparently
Fithboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people are in to that man
TheDirtDude117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. I kick butt in little league baseball
sonofaresiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God damn weak chins.
ViolentThespian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, am 19 with clean hair and no beard. Look 12.
CrazyFanGeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't let my SO shave for this reason he is 27 and when he shaves he looks about 12 it's scary
geeky_username ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like Leave It To Beaver
orlicker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, not OP
ynwestrope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always think clean shaven men look Mormon.
TheOverNormalGamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got asked if it was my first year of high school today.
Can confirm.
ppapperclipp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm as well.
Last time I did both went to see a movie and got carded to make sure I was old enough to watch the R rated movie, was 25. Never again.
Gutterlungz1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. When my hair is neatly trimmed and cut and my face is cleanly shaven I will honestly get carded for an R-rated movie. I'll be 29 next month.
P1h3r1e3d13 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:07:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โA World War II fighter pilot.โ โmy girlfriend
Vegglimer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:56:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, personally I look like a 12 year-old, if that 12 year-old ate three other 12 year-olds.
yurogi ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:25:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dapper
CedarCabPark ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A gestapo member
firematt422 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your father.
camdoodlebop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:32:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you must have your life pretty well put-together
v_N_i_C_k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me look like a boot.
thisisstephen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's when you look like a nervous teenager picking up his date to the prom.
Deegsta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gainfully employed
jaxxon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It wraps around and you look like a post-apocolyptic road rat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a beluga whale, as all men do
joe579003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They call that the Mr Clean, aka Johnny Sins!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about a well groomed beard and messy hair?
onearmmanny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or the inverse -- I shave my head and can get away with pretty much anything facial-hair wise.
thermocoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
like my dad :(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A businessman.
JCoop8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like a pussy
bane_killgrind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What am I, a lawyer?
Bane Killgrind Esquire, Your Honor.
SleepyConscience ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A nerd
B12ESA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a shaved head, when I clean shave, I look like egg. O
Mustangmuscle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A girl
dingosaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I look like a tomato. Irish ancestry and an aerodynamic hairstyle keeps me from ever being clean shaven.
risco89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hair up, glasses off?
endofautumn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those are called children and women.
qxcvr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gay? This is a serious response...
xFoeHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gaaaaaay
AintNoFortunateSon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like a tool.
mobius_striping_inc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like you're ready for quire practice.
itaShadd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gay.
ngwoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tax accountant.
Igot_this ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you just have to rely on your looks
IvanMarkowKane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Employed.
Aquix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP but when this happens, I achieve movie-star status.
thiscoolhandluke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Harvey freakin' Specter
tortugastation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don Draper.
BecausePoopsIsFunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happy's caddie from Happy Gilmore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gay
smithoski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
German
crunkadocious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Metrosexual
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh... Patrick Bateman?
yourenotagolfer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Patrick Bateman
LittleSugarBabysBabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well seeing as how I get haircuts regularly and can't grow one follicle of facial hair, I'd say you'll look young...really young.
besux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we call it "schlatzig" in Austria.
(badly translates to "spitlike")
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boring/yuppie.
CheddaCharles ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:08:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like meth
ganfy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:34:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I don't want to be.
the_salubrious_one ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:07:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Gay."
ferlessleedr ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:41:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...Holy crap. Gonna get a haircut tonight to go with my completely unkempt 8 month beard.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:16:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put a photograph of something scary like a dog in your beard, to see if the hairdresser notices.
ferlessleedr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He would probably, and he'd think I'm weird and give me crap about it for a while. My barber is a friend of mine, I get my hair cut in his living room and in exchange I babysit his kids.
Violent_Sigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty good deal for him.
812many ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:37:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get a 5 o'clock shadow at noon when I shave. Keeping the hair nicely kept is a requirement or I'll always look messy.
FappyJacky ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, my facial hair grew when I was 11, and continued to spread like a pine forest across my face.
Now 17 and trim beard and clean it up every other day, makes for a nice look.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:42:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all about the double dirty look. I'm a straight male, but 5 days without a shave and messy long hair speaks to me. I'm also a dirty fucking hippy.
chase82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also rock that look. I work in R&D and wear a lab coat. They call me mad scientist. Really, I'm more of a mad engineer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right on brother. I work as a personal trainer and also make cold pressed juice for a yoga studio. Khakis, tie dye, and flannel everywhere I go. Clients don't seem to care or notice and the juice always comes out great. A smile and good physical condition go a long way.
the13bangbang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless sheikh is in now though!
ScrumptiousPrincess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trivago guy? Izzat you?
mi_esposa_me_espia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I have long hair for the first time and I feel like such a hobo some times. But then I trim the beard and I got that John Wick thing going on and I get lots of positive feedback.
homeless_dude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I look homeless no matter what I do.
bhouse08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of zach galifanakis saying to his barber "give me the amber alert look"
SpaceCowboy170 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been sitting on trimming my fur for a while, and i'm due for a haircut. Guess I'm off to the bathroom, then
Lostmygooch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup , I purposely don't shave and have long hair pony-tailed in order to look homeless. I'd rather be judged on the content of my character then by how I appear. Get's rid of shallow people pretty quickly :D
Alexanderbander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2: Don't ever say that you look "suave."
ChurroSalesman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL why I have looked homeless my entire adult life
just4youuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who can't grow facial hair... I kind of hate you
destroythepoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I nearly got kicked out of a farmer's market b/c they thought I was homeless. Longish hair plus big beard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, Reddit. Always good for a laugh the most socially inopportune times.
Idoontkno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyyy visual discrimination FTW!
happyflappypancakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? Did it take this guy telling you this to realize you look homeless?
mtndew01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scruffy beard and messy hair is the look of a happily employed software developer
MasterDeMentis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You deserved the gold. Thanks
EsotericAlphanumeric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just snorted.
abledanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm well into the hobo phase at this point. If I have a hoodie on with the hood up, I just look like the Unabomber. I do have aviator glasses to complete the ensemble.
MrFordization ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless? Don't you mean... JEDI??
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, For women I learned in my teens that wearing clothes revealing legs should have conservative top without cleavage, back, or too much arms, and when revealing more upper body (cleavage, arms, shoulder, back) should have below knees covering legs if not down to ankles. There are variations but when both top and legs are revealing then it is trashy looking to be avoided. Source: dressed slutty in high school and did not follow above advise
Gorilla978 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if I style my back hair but leave the beard scruffy I'm good to go?
Hope_Eternity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just realized this can apply to girls too. I can make my hair nice and no makeup and I look pretty good, and with makeup and messy hair it looks like I did the messy hair on purpose. I'm totally taking advantage of this later.
ALexusOhHaiNyan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late to the holy crap. Can't find it but I found some picture of a model who's apparently fairly known in the gay community. I couldn't put my finger on why his style was perfect but /u/Dawn_Of_The_Dave just nailed it.
He was toned, with a big ass scruffy beard and that flawless side shaved hitler youth cut young guy have these days. Scruffy and flawless. I've heard the term "Hi-Lo" used in similar fashion, for fashion, and style in general. Even art. Ie; "I listen to baroque chamber music, and trap beats"
Anyways.
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
an undercut? I have one too, and the worst part about it is how you can't change to a different hairstyle without letting it grow out and look messy for a while. Looks like I'll be shaving until my next haircut!
ALexusOhHaiNyan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:55 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely. I gave it a shot, then just shaved my whole head because I never had. Or "Ukranian Mobster" as I like to call it. I suppose you could grow it out and trim the top, but the stylist would have to be good.
buttery_shame_cave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
aaand that's why stephen amell is hot.
well, that and the muscles. and those blue eyes.
and the shoulders. and the fact that he's 6'2".
ahem.
iaccidentlytheworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Protip, if you're attractive you can do any combination and it will look cute.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 2503 points ยท Posted at 19:01:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The female equivalent is colour; you can have colourful hair or colourful clothes, but both makes you look like a children's entertainer.
Octavia9 ยท 1405 points ยท Posted at 21:10:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend I wish would get this. She's short, past 40, overweight, with pink hair and hot pink and purple clothes and crazy bright makeup. She looks like Mimi from the Drew Carey Show.
henkera ยท 829 points ยท Posted at 22:31:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The exact point in the sentence where I thought: "he's going to say Mimi from the Drew Carey show".
AlekRivard ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 22:37:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought OP was going to say Drew Carey himself until pink hair
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:54:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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superscatman91 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:43:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. Drew Carey looks way better now http://img2-1.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/news/140922/drew-carey-435.jpg
CaptMercaptan ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:09:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like Alton Brown wearing Phil Hartman's face.
blamb211 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, he really does.
CartoonJustice ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:07:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've often wondered if he got sick. I know I shouldn't because according to his book he was very thin before beer. But he looks really gaunt to me, but maybe that's age.
Edit - In this pic its the hands that make me feel so.
superscatman91 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:17:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he was huge at one point before the weight loss http://theviralnexus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/drew.jpeg
also, the guy is 57 years old.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:56:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck he lost a lot of weight! Good for him!
uphere- ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:29:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me it was this part:
Alexanderspants ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:53:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're just jumping to conclusions there, buddy
score_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:48:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's been a long time since I've seen that show, but if there's one thing I remember about Mimi, it's that she didn't give a single fuck. So good for her I guess.
WannabeStephenKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ohio-io-io-io!
underwriter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:03:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you missed this key factor
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:40:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wardrobe is literally AL black and grey with one red tee shirt. This is how I justify sometimes having purple hilights
Metarract ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:33:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The point is contrastโ whether it be in art or design or fashion or what have you. When everything's bland, nothing stands out. When everything's vibrant, nothing stands out. When everything's different, again; nothing truly stands out.
Contrast is important in order to draw attention to certain appealing things or whatever it is you are trying to draw attention TO. Pocket squares, ties, eye shadow, lipstick; you choose ONE or TWO things you really want to draw attention to, and you make them a nice, bright or contrasting color. Even just dressing in muted colors with one vibrant color does the trick. Or, adversely, dressing primp and proper, keeping your facial hair trim and neat; then adopting a tousled hair look is perfect.
Contrast draws the eye, makes things stand out, downplays other elements, and ultimately can pull together a work of art, some interior decorating, or an appealing outfit.
Methofelis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People always found it funny - I wear totally benign colors. Grey, black, blue jeans, browns, a flannel over it if I'm painting or working outdoors. Very boring. It's just my preference, I am not a "loud" person.
My hair, however, is very much blue and turquoise. People notice it right off that bat. I don't do it for them, I do it because I friggin' love the colors, but don't want to wear them as clothing. But you're absolutely right, people comment on it all the time. (And not in a bad way at all - or if they do, I don't hear about it.)
hothotsauce ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:47:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she wants to be a children's entertainer? Sounds like she loves what she loves if she's like that past 40.
levi_verzyden ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:49:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for mimi. God she was rude but holy shit, did they have the best banter on TV at the time.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:11:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never go full Mimi.
Octavia9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is good advice.
Masterminds_girl ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 23:22:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm at the point where I don't think it's anyone's business what another person chooses to do with their hair, clothes or makeup.
I used to judge people for not dressing "their age", like there was some arbitrary number where they were no longer allowed to outwardly express themselves how they wanted but instead had to wear makeup in muted shades, and strings of pearls and sensible shoes. I got a lot of that outlook from my mom, who was always pretty conservative anyway, but especially so as she's gotten older.
But as I get older, I'm finding that I don't want to abandon the way I look for a more "mature" appearance, just because I was raised to believe I should. I am by no means edgy in a modern sense (i.e., only a nostril piercing, one small tattoo on the back of my neck, regular old red hair from a bottle), but if I want to wear eyeshadow that would make a macaw jealous, or cut the shoulders out of my t-shirts and wear skinny jeans, I will. Not because I have some need to tell the world who I am - trust me, what you see is not what you get - but because I like what I see when I look in the mirror.
I'm just doing me, and I won't be held to some unwritten standard for how we should present ourselves as we age. As long as I think it looks good, fuck what anybody else has to say about it.
No-vem-ber ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:52:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping someone would say this!
OurSuiGeneris ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:15:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'll hold to those standards if you want to be evaluated well, for you will be evaluated by those standards, by and large. Obviously some people won't care, but that's not society. "Not caring what people think" is great for manic pixie dream girls who look sexy while doing it, but not so much for people who just look like a socially unaware train wreck.
For the record I find androgynous alt girls with pixie cuts super attractive..... But some people have really poor taste in clothing and they can't pretend that taste is completely relative. It's like making music some people like, vs making music randomly without concern for atonality... You can legitimately say the music sucks, and it's not illegitimate statement just because you're using a standard of a musical scale to base the statement on.
Octavia9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really care what she wears except when she rants about how great she looks and waits for me to agree. It's awkward.
iHeartApples ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:33:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she enjoys looking like that and does it to please herself and not to impress other people.
imaluckyducky2 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:56:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right?! Rock being colorful. Too many people don't have enough fun because "appearances."
Ruruskadoo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:19:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it matter as long as she's happy with how she looks?
rmphys ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:01:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely not! But the entire point of this thread is to be advice for people who aren't happy with the way they look and generally want to be closer to societal norms of beauty. If someone wants to do something else, no one should care, but its just not relevant.
Octavia9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't except that she fishes for compliments. Her kids are embarrassed of her behavior more than he dress. She drinks with her teenage daughter and tries to sleep with her daughters male friends. They are 18-20 but it's still weird.
pirarchy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:56:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knows your friend.
roxxe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is she single?
Octavia9 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:55:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She is and her ex husband would love for her to have someone new to stalk.
QueenJillybean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Mimi before even getting to that part of the comments. Specifically the priscilla queen of the desert episode where Mimi is normal/in drag.
TheMarquisDeSpace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend like this but she works as a clown so I guess it works for her
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
good reference.
Imbucare ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's gonna be me in a decade so I guess I better get used to the comparison
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know that Drew and Mimi are the same person?
TheBigLebluntsky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:26:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does said friend happen to be a high school teacher in Maryland?
Octavia9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope crazy ex stripper turned unhappy housewife in Ohio.
Dodecabrohedron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well by your unflattering description I imagine it's her way of competing for attention in a world where over weight 40 year old women aren't a hot commodity.
jonosvision ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think every person knows that '40+ overweight woman with brightly coloured hair and weird clothes', usually accompanied by bad tattoos and a piercings.
navybean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and single ...
SnatchAddict ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:56:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From my experience, the more overweight the woman, the crazier the hair.
Fwanc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm purple and a petite Asian.
SnatchAddict ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:46:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will you be my waifu?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hair is blue, but I'm not overweight.
SnatchAddict ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:30:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well color me surprised!! :)
BaronVonPoro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a very unfortunate combination of characteristics.
sonofaresiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed it happens a lot more with unattractive women, or women who believe they're unattractive. They won't admit it but most of time I'm convinced it's a sort of rebelling so hard against being attractive.
Octavia9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think she is clinging to the past. She was a stripper and NBA basketball cheerleader once upon a time. She craves attention.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The colours are to compensate for the fatness. Trust me, I know. I paint my face and put my hair up just to go grocery shopping to make myself look passable and maybe distract from my lardass. I also know it doesn't work....sigh
Octavia9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not happy with how I look either. Not fat but showing my age at 36. I try to be and dress invisible which isn't good either. While I don't care for the bright flashy look, I admire the self confidence of women who go that route.
Gohack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Pick 2: Skinny, young, and attractive. (To wear out of the ordinary hair colors.) If you only qualify for two of these traits, it might work out. Anything less you might think it looks great, but it is probably not aesthetically pleasing to those around you.
LittleOrangeCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think people who choose out of the ordinary hair colors are really concerned about whether strangers find them aesthetically pleasing.
Gohack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On what basis do you make that assertion?
Octavia9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure it's an attempt to get attention, but maybe it doesn't matter if it's positive attention or not.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:54:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ehh well how she dresses is her prerogative. There's no reason you should care how she wants to carry herself.
Octavia9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't except that she fishes for compliments and it's awkward.
Dutch_Japp ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 22:45:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personally I just really hate seeing pink in women. It's not like red which is brashly a color of desire but neither is it white which might symbolize purity. It's somewhere stuck in the middle and in most of the girls I've seen sporting this it generally indicates that this person has been brought up on Disney and just wants to be a perfect little princess.
ballbeard ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:49:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ dude it's a colour
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:12:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love wearing pink and I never cared for Disney princesses.
jenseits ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:49:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"pink in women" meaning pink hair or just wearing the color pink in general?
Dutch_Japp ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Both honestly. The latter I find somewhat more disturbing but really it's just a matter of personal aesthetic. With that said I can see how my comment makes me seem like a total asshole. Perhaps a better phrasing would have sufficed.
hometowngypsy ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 21:34:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or the loose / tight thing. You can have a loose top and tight pants or a tight top and loose pants, but both of either make you look sloppy or trashy.
(I'm talking tight, not fitted. Fitted top and pants is fine.)
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 22:08:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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bamforeo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:56:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg this is the struggle.
I just wanna wear cute crop tops without looking like a tiny tent ):
Mbeatrice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about the crop tops that tie in front? They're a little more snug to the waist, and they don't look like cowgirl clothes if they're not plaid. :)
skyaerobabe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or pregnant, whichever you think is worse.
I was asked when the baby was due when I was 14. I stopped wearing flowy empire-waisted tops after that. Almost a decade later and I still refuse to wear loose tops.
0100110101101010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So much to consider! Being a woman sounds hard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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0100110101101010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha you would think so, but it is surprisingly easy!
phatmanrunning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't stop picturing an overly comical version of this.
Fallenangel152 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a night out: Either show off the cleavage, or the legs. Not both.
Not a woman, but it's a tip i heard a girl say once.
NoDoThis ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 20:56:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or makeup- dramatic eyes should be offset with a more neutral lip, and vice versa. Otherwise it's just too much.
adiosflamingo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:40:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, that's not true. Just a myth.
eukomos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:49:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will very frequently look too intense for the situation. It's not universally true; if you're going to a fancy casino or you're in a play then a smoky eye with blood red lips will look great. But in most situations a look like that will wear you, not the other way around. That's just life, and aesthetics. Both of which are notoriously unfair.
adiosflamingo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your answer makes it sound like these dramatic looks are worn by mousy people with no confidence. Then yes, the look might wear you. But the society I live in is full of awesome people with different styles that fit them perfectly.
Rules of makeup are stupid, since makeup often is used as a way to show your inner self to others. A dramatic lip and dramatic eye is no big deal if it's worn with self esteem (especially on a cool person with clothes that fit the style). I see confident women wearing bright red lips and smokey eyes as their daily makeup all the time and it always looks great. So if they dare to - good for them!
People really should stop telling other (women) what's alright and not alright to do with their own face. If they feel good about it, it's never "too much". Don't be the person pushing people down for having fun with their appearance - it's none of your business what so ever.
eukomos ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:38:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're in a thread about how to look attractive, do you really think your appearance is no one else's business? It's the business of the people you're trying to attract, the business of people whose respect or goodwill or trust you're trying to get. We do huge amounts of communication with our appearances in our society. When you wear makeup that's visible to everyone, or that's invisible to most people, or none at all, you're making a choice about what you're trying to communicate. There is no opting out of this system. And bright lips with dark eyes (or even bright eyes, if that's your jam) is not always going to communicate what you want to say to people about yourself, no matter how much you love the individual colors.
adiosflamingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the colour of an eyeshadow determines whether or not someone's being respected, I'd say the person judging is the one with the problem.
Also, don't forget that the top post in this thread is about not complaining.
NoDoThis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:51:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're going all out, and headed to a night club or somewhere else where it's dark but you need to look nice, a dramatic lip and dramatic eye at the same time really is too much.
Also, I don't think things can be myths if there's no solid answer. I think it's a pretty common "rule" of make up application, however.
adiosflamingo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh. Sorry, but I don't buy that, I think it's a pretty shitty attitude.
Rules of makeup are stupid, since makeup often is used as a way to show your inner self to others. A dramatic lip and dramatic eye is no big deal if it's worn with self esteem (especially on a cool person with clothes that fit the style). I see confident women wearing bright red lips and smokey eyes as their daily makeup all the time and it always looks great. So if they dare to - good for them!
People really should stop telling other (women) what's alright and not alright to do with their own face. If they feel good about it, it's never "too much". Don't be the person pushing people down for having fun with their appearance - it's none of your business what so ever.
NoDoThis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:53:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, you're taking this incredibly personally and being unnecessarily rude. No one is telling anyone what to do here. It's a general "rule" that's pretty commonly heard, that's all. I personally find that people who do a big* dramatic eye and also dramatic lips tend to be a bit overdone for general day wear*, but that's just my opinion. Chill out.
adiosflamingo ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope I'm not at all, I just think it's an unnecessary thing to say. Young girls and boys are affected enough already, they certainly don't need more people making up rules about stuff they might be curious about and grown up women don't deserve to go to work and be judged for their make up. I can't see that saying that this or that is "too much" is making anything better. You don't agree with this?
NoDoThis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:36:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm saying it's my opinion. I'm not going to walk up to someone on the street and tell them they suck or anything, it's just my opinion. I love women (and people in general) who rock their own shit and do what makes them feel happy, that doesn't mean that I personally find it aesthetically pleasing. It's a matter of personal taste. Again, not sure why you're making this into such a big effin deal. You don't like my opinion, I get it. I'm not oppressing anyone by having my own opinion on it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And people always do their lips last which is why they never notice their lip color is too dark until to too late.
eukomos ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:24:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has been so hard for me to learn. I love my brights, but when I put them all on at once even I'm uncomfortable. Last summer I had a day where I was aiming for restrained but fun, and ended up with a coral shirt (which is totally business casual-worthy on its own), orange lipstick, and yellow nails. A server at the liquor store commented that I was "not afraid of color" and I was like "what? But I left the turquoise eyeliner at home! What does society want from me?!" Clothes are hard.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:02:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds kind of awesome. I learned my lesson the day the guy at the sandwich counter casually asked me if I took drugs. In retrospect the outfit might have suggested as much.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
agree. it would be even better with the turqoise too. Who gives a shit what the dude at the liquor store counter thinks? colour is fun
eukomos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, I'm not too bugged about the opinions of liquor store employees, but I had just come from work...
EllisDee_4Doyin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Orange may have been the kicker. I've only seen one person, who wasn't advertising the color, look good in a more orange shade...and it really was more coral. But I'm sure you looked cute! I fear colors
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They just want to be your friends...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a few colorful items of clothing, like a bright red skirt, things like that. One day at work a man really creeped me out by out of the blue saying something like, "Where's all your color?" like he had been noting my clothes each day. Not even I keep track of that. I think I wore black and gray for like a week after that though.
imaluckyducky2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think people just notice if you habitually wear color or not, especially in an office setting (which is usually plagued by muted, dull, neutral, what have you). They also notice if your clothes fit well if everyone else is wearing clothes a few sizes too big. It's a visual comparison thing.
I've experienced this too, but I also tend to mix a couple colors, a couple patterns, or a pattern + a color AND have bright red lips... so people notice when the lipstick is gone or if I'm decked out in neutrals.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd notice if a coworker wore a certain kind of clothes, but this was just some guy who apparently came to where I work often enough to notice, even though I'd never seen him before.
goddessofentropy ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 20:43:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends. If the colours aren't too bright, it works perfectly. For example, I have violet to wine red hair, and natural greens and dark blues match perfectly.
regalrecaller ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 21:00:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think OP means multiple colors contained in the many articles of clothes worn in the outfit. Solid colors with single-color hair is fine.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:57:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I meant purple hair, for example, with several other wildly colourful garments. I'm sure you look lovely.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:12:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
now kiss
goddessofentropy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, kind internet stranger!
EllisDee_4Doyin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have brighter red and just about any shade of blue looks amazing, but almost every green makes me look like Christmas which is No me gusta.
I'm jealous. I never really missed green until it was a non-option haha
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:50:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you do it right. It's a matter of degrees, I find. My wardrobe is mostly pastels and brights with a lot of patterns (I don't do neutrals or darks well), and for years now I've been dyeing a few sections of colours like blue, purple, and pink into my hair. I can pull off both bright hair and clothes at the same time...it works best if I wear a colourful top and then a basic on the bottom, like a pair of jeans or some white denim shorts or a simple skirt.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:12:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're absolutely right, and you obviously have a good understanding of colour. TBH anything can be done right if you're confident in what you're doing, and even if you're NOT really rocking it, the world will forgive pretty much any sartorial faux pas if you're a kind, funny ray of sunshine.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm more like a mawkish, friggen special ray of sunshine. ;) That seems to work too!
RedKamo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:11:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: it's hard to find someone who wants to bang a clown. But not impossible.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:00:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is definitely someone's fetish
HowieN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm pretty everything is definitely someone's fetish.
EDIT: sure, pretty sure everything is someone's fetish...
aTinofRicePudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure you are very pretty. And yes, that's probably true.
danzey12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey everyone makes mistakes, I just replied to you and tried to cancel it to go and look it up but ended up pressing save..
aTinofRicePudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I admired your confidence in just putting it out there. I'm pretty too. It's ok.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And yeah, I get it was a mistake. No drama! It was funny, not a terrible misdeed.
danzey12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...
aTinofRicePudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man. I'm an idiot. I replied to the wrong person. That is definitely stupider than just pressing save three times.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And yeah, I get it was a mistake. No drama! It was funny, not a terrible misdeed.
HowieN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh, oops...
but you are right, I'm very pretty for a Scottish woman.
ax0r ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:05:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or in the subset of clothes: Short skirt or a lot of cleavage. Both makes you look like a prostitute.
EllisDee_4Doyin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always say when going out: Back, legs, or boobs. You can only show two. All three and you look like a prostitute.
Also this only applies for going out, like dinner or club. No fucking way this works in an office setting.
privatefcjoker ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:58:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or an adult entertainer.
secsual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True. Unless you're doing pastel colours and deliberately pairing your coloured clothes to them.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pastels make anything (everything?!) easier on the eye. The main problem there is having to maintain pastel hair. It's like a part time job, I swear.
secsual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I ended up giving up and going brighter than I first wanted so it would gradually fade to something I like. I have different hair every time I step out of the shower basically haha.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you post over at r/fancyfollicles? I have plain old blonde hair again but love seeing what other people get up to with their colours.
secsual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd never seen that sub before! I'll have to check it out :)
cleanout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Also kind of equivalent is clothing proportions. Loose/tight on top or bottom, but not both.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have blue hair but all of my clothes are black. I simply cannot go out wearing blue hair and hot pink pants.
ExpatMeNow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've always felt since I have so much color on my head (natural redhead), I need to keep my clothing colors pretty muted or I'll look like a clown.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makeup too. A smoky eye or a red lip, pick one, not both.
EllisDee_4Doyin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I pick colorful hair! Although I prob only have a few more years left of being able to test the limits of how red I can go and still look good (especially now that I'm entering the professional world). I'd rather keep being able to have some level of my obviously not natural color, and dress like I never really moved past a goth stage (I wear mostly dark colors and dislike patterns).
luckyhazel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a redhead, :( Lots of bright colours work, but we have to be careful!
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh I love red hair so much. Given that it's a natural colour I think you're exempt from this.
7Superbaby7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I knew this sooner. I have pink highlights and I wore a pink coat with blue pants and blue shoes today.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's important to point out that looking like a children's entertainer is necessarily a bad thing. If anything you're doing brings joy to the infants of the world I'd say you're living well.
jamesonandhotbrass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:14:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this is only for females, but you're right that is probably more applicable there.
Suddenly, I'm not so concerned about my mostly monochrome wardrobe. This makes so much sense, I'd never really noticed that before.
Tylensus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree! I think people should wear less professional or nuetral colors in general. Colorful hair is always a plus for me.
marlow41 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:08:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One could also, if avoiding colored hair, accessorize their hair with colored things like hats, ribbons, bands, etc... But I'm a guy, what do I know other than that shit is super cute 90% of the time.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 20:51:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Tylensus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:07:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware that most people style themselves the way they do intentionally. I just wish it was acceptable to dress how you'd like to at your place of work. Office workers shouldn't be limited to a pallete of black, gray, beige, and white. Obviously these aren't hard guidelines, but they're what employers expect for the most part.
tacomalvado ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:46:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or like you're straight out of Tumblr.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tumblr = Compton
Ayindar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the things my ex couldn't understand no matter how hard I tried to explain!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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aTinofRicePudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. I went back to blonde so I can dress like a crayon box again.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love ginger hair so much! Ginger hair is always special.
trippy_grape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about a colorful beard?
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No.
Fire_away_Fire_away ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard from a friend that the key to looking sexy but reserved is to only emphasize your top or bottom, not both at the same time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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aTinofRicePudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many. I work in a creative field, live in East London and my best friends are hairdressers.
eukomos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...are you serious? Do you really believe that women just happen to go grey later than men? Or never at all, in some social circles?
truemeliorist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is an elementary music teacher. She actually is a children's entertainer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Serious question. Is there an age limit on colorful hair? I manage a decent sized group of people and a few Monday's ago I walked in to 3 women in their 30's rocking freshly dyed sea foam green hair. It felt weird if I'm being honest.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably depends on what you do and who you are. I know a sixty-something Dutch lady with very long, vibrant red hair. She is gorgeous and she totally rocks it. She's also crazy and makes great art. It just works.
Steffinily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome, I'm set then. I usually have colorful hair with black clothes and darkish makeup.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or a member of the Criminal minds team
spinningblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus make up tip: Wear heavy eye makeup or heavy lipstick but not both. Unless you are a professional makeup artist, you will look like a clown.
faymouglie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I'm a natural red head. I guess I'm doomed to black, grey, and white.
PictChick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a similar combination with clothing where the difference is sexy or sexual. Top half and bottom half clothing.
You can wear revealing top half clothing with abundant cleavage and bare skin but the bottom half should be decently covered- full length pants or below knee skirt. Or the opposite: short shorts/ micro mini skirt but with complete coverage of the top half- long sleeves, even a turtle neck.
Both together risk being asked how much for a blow job, one or the other leaves something to the imagination ie sexy.
Source: adult female.
ZincCadmium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And now I have boring browny-auburn hair and a predominately grey and denim wardrobe and I just feel blah because I had a boring conventional job for a while and couldn't be purple anymore.
DirtyArtKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That, and (for makeup) eyes OR lips. Very few people can get away with doing both in a serious situation. Theater/film/drag is different, but if you are going to a party, you can quickly look out of place/comical with too many focal points.
drunkenknight9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still can't get past the u in color. I'm sorry please forgive me for being an easily entertained American.
trippy_grape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about a colorful beard?
aTinofRicePudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
pixelprophet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/31/13/8631139430e1a5bbb141e6b50be5fb08.jpg
Only if you're at Burning Man.
trippy_grape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about a colorful beard?
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe.
TwiZtah ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:24:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people pull that shit off, like Dodger. Her hair right now is pretty much the color of blue cotton candy.
your_moms_a_clone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:54:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure it's actually with clothes. You can wear the spaghetti strap shirt with pants, or you can wear the super short skirt with a blouse, but you can't wear the two sexy things together or else this makes you a skank.
aTinofRicePudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More or less. People have very different opinions of what is too sexy though and if you care much about that you're going to have a bad day. For context, I live very close to a very large orthodox jewish area/ community. I'm not going to stop baring my whore legs and wench arms for their benefit.
vancityvic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:24:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fat chicks take note. You look like a children's entertainer. You arent drawing any attention away from your body shape. Its still fucken there
twwwy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:21:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Any un-natural hair colour and you like you've some issues. Which I believe most coloured (deliberate phrasing) hair chicks have.
mbrw12 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you?
Soundwave_X ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 19:15:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scruffy hair + Shave = good looking guy Cut hair + beard = he has a great beard Scruffy hair + beard = bum who wants your pocket change
langlo94 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:11:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scruffy hair and well-trimmed beard though?
paulio101 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:22:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bum who got your pocket change.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:25:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
if the guys not half ugly and quite tall and muscly, the full on long hair and bum beard gives him a virile viking look.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:04:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or the nerd who listens to Dragonforce and masturbates to roleplaying games look
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:07:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or like some badass rugby player such as chabal.. or some game of thrones character, equally badass
tortillaandcheese ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:12:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Long hair and a scruffy beard is literally my fetish.
ThisIs_MyName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How you doin'
dangermousejnr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heck, I won't turn change down. Gimme gimme!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slip a quarter into me and I'll guarantee a good time.
centerflag982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about bald and (usually) well-trimmed beard?
mawrtian ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:21:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of my rule for my daughter: flowy top with a fitted bottom, flowy bottom with a fitted top top. Flowy on top and bottom looks frumpy. Fitted top and bottom looks trampy. (unless you are actively working out, not just wearing workout gear instead of real clothes)
chiller8 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:49:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caveat for tight top and bottom..tutu skirt over tights/leggings/jeggings to break it up. I have a 5 year old daughter and was taught the rules by my wife and sister. "Flowy" is taking up valuable space in the already limited sector allocated for vocabulary.
ClearlyDense ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but jeans can't count as a fitted bottom in this case
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 17:59:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean cut up top, week old non-shaven beard on bottom. While I was home for the holidays, my dad just didn't understand why I had to go and get a haircut. Like bruh, gotta be clean.
CantEvenUseThisThing ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:54:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yo, same. Salon quality haircut and then I shave Monday so I'm plenty scruffy by Saturday night.
jseego ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You call your dad bruh? That sounds nice, actually.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't imagine he calls his dad bruh in real life.
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do imagine that
ilikebourbon_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dad was hatin' on the mirin' gains you were getting over him
a_ferocious_coug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the look.
I_need_proof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get mine cut every other week. I like my hair military short. And i also like being pampered.
andiwaslikeO_O ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:37:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually going to comment on beard grooming. I keep a very short, neat haircut and a full beard. It goes over well even though I work in a very formal environment.
My own suggestion for the fellas (and maybe a few ladies) is to keep your beard hydrated. I apply a small amount of beard oil after my morning shower and use a bristle brush to smooth things out. It definitely makes a difference. You wouldn't go without conditioning and hydrating the hair on your head so why do differently for the hair on your face? The moisture gives you a healthy glow and adds a level of well keptness (if that's even a word.)
Tylensus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen a lot of videos about beard oil, and it never seems to add a visual difference. Is it just really subtle?
andiwaslikeO_O ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It takes a while for the effects to fully become evident since it's a daily regimen that improves beard health over time. At first it's just a superficial application but the real changes occur when you continue doing it daily and the oils fully penetrate the hair fibers.
For me, I have a beard that's blond, brown, and red, the hydration make it look warmer and brings out the darker colors without appearing oily if that makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:08:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hah, best advice an ex has ever given me! "Cut your dreads or shave your beard, you look homeless with both!" apparently it's not "sexy" to look homeless.
vagina_fang ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:01:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may have just changed everything for me.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:39:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fix one and the other is clearly deliberate. People might not agree with your stylistic choice, but they can at least recognize that you put some effort into that miserable atrocity, which earns you a little respect.
It's true too. If you fixed neither, it's probably because you were too lazy. If you fixed one, you probably put at least half a second worth of thought into which one you'd do something about.
Lothar_Ecklord ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:39:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a similar note, I have always been a shave once a week guy. I get real bummy. I also get my hair cut about once every other month. There are times I look like a straight up bum.
Then, this Christmas, I got a beard trimmer/groomer and my facial hair game is on point. I can tell by the way people look at me. My hair? Still wolfin', but I part it, so it looks fairly neat. I've also noticed that my single greatest physical feature is my head hair, so I make sure to keep it neat even when it's a little shaggy on the edges.
snappyirides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. My SO does this. Incredibly sexy.
Tylensus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which of the two does he have nowadays? I need a haircut and finally have a beard. I've been thinking of taking my hair down to like a 1 and keeping the beard.
snappyirides ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well his hair isn't short. Not that short, just neat. And he frequently grows stubble, which ranges from just a five-o-clock shadow, to visible hair.
If you ask me, a beard is there to highlight your facial features. If they are highlighting the wrong facial features, then it will look bad.
shaggorama ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I currently have both and I look fucking homeless. At least I'm warm :p
LuckyNickels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My God. Much like Isaac Newton, you, good sir, have stumbled upon a law of nature which lay before our very eyes since the dawn of time yet which no one had ever discovered until now.
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, Dave. You've nailed it
I_AM_AVOIDING_WORK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is good advice for females too....
coolhandhutch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Homeless chic...it's a fine line.
p00lshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scruffy beard and a mohawk? I can look good when I want to and can rock a suit. Also when I'm out by myself people leave me the fuck alone
cqm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Date Europeans. They will come with a completely different valuation scale for you and your hair styles.
Dawn_Of_The_Dave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm English.
cqm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Date Americans. They will come with a completely different valuation scale for you and your hair styles. Actually, all you'll need to do is talk.
HRP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hair is fucking atrocious right now and it's making me hate myself when I look in the mirror. Just booked an appointment to take care of that shit Thursday evening. Christ, it's been since May.
be_bo_i_am_robot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sage advice!!!
foxhole_atheist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed something similar with women's clothing. A baggy flannel shirt with shorts or tights is cute. A long flowing skirt with a tank top is cute. Top and bottom loose-fitting looks sloppy, while top and bottom tight-fitting looks trashy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THISSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! I told my SO exactly this! He looks great with a scruffy beard and a fresh cut or clean shaven with scruffy hair but he likes to combine the best of both worlds and ends up looking like a crazy hobo.
IamAwesome-er ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sergei Brin seems to manage ok...but then he also has billions of dollars...
umphish41 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you obviously aren't in the music industry ;)
surpriseslingshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a question. A dear friend of mine
rockshas messy, low man bun (plus bad, evident premature balding poor guy) and a lost-in-the-woods-for-a-month beard. Without the beard, he looks like a guy who lives in his mother's basement. Am I a bad friend if I point this out to him? I feel like it's kinda not my place, but he's only 22 and stopped getting carded at bars before he even turned 21...Dawn_Of_The_Dave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll get straight to the point. There is no such thing as a man bun.
surpriseslingshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFMyself:
TravisKOP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm, if your hair is shaggy shave and if your beard is shaggy cut your hair
Bones_MD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. I can't grow a full beard, but for roughly a week following a haircut (I do standard skin fades and gentleman's fades as my barber calls them) I can rock my shitty facial hair and I feel 100x more attractive than when I have longer hair and can't be assed to shave.
That's a solid observation man, one I've never really thought about.
fanta_is_nazi_soda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In a similar vein - my friend has dubbed his grooming "Jason Statham style"
Basically if you're going to be scruffy beard or hair, always wear a suit and nice shoes.
If you've shaved and have a good haircut, you can get away dressing sloppier.
Never combine the two.
nostalgicpanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Similar with clothes. Fitted/tight top with loose bottoms or the other way around.
Kevin1798 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about long hair and stubble? Ive spent like a year growing this shit out so i aint cutting it but I look like im about 14 when im totally clean shaven. Recently went clean shaven for the first time in a while. That was a 5 day mistake Ill not repeat
McRodo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On beards, I never really cared for mine either until I bought some beard oil while traveling in the US. They are practically everywhere nowadays that beards are fashionable and they go a long way and the price varies depending on the brand. These things are fenomenal, they get rid of the beard smell and tidies up your beard a bit giving it a more natural look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just saved my marriage!
DeathbyHappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can have Lumberjack or you can have Bedhead, but don't do them both unless you're going for Starving Artist.
Buwaro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am trying to grow my hair out for a new style, but it is in the in between stage where I can't do anything with it yet, and it is winter so I have a burly beard. I look like a bum.
The_Kaizz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yuup, I'm doing the low shave with low cut hair. It's like a more suave daring look. But I have to keep the hair cut more than anything. Let it get out of hand, and I just look like a lazy bum.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the opposite. I've got long hair but a nicely trimmed beard.
newaccount1619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great insight. I've learned to love my hair long, and get good feedback for it, but I don't mix it up with a beard.
swanssx1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so damn true
NSA_Chatbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same but opposite. Clean-shaven and scruffy short hair.
The lineup is like ... one person long.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know... I haven't cut my hair in almost 2 years, and I trim my beard down to 1/4 inch once a month (though I still keep it clean), and I've never had any complaints.
your_moms_a_clone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girls kinda have a similar thing, I've noticed. You can have a revealing/sexy top or a very short bottom, but if you try to have both you're a skank.
your_moms_a_clone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girls kinda have a similar thing, I've noticed. You can have a revealing/sexy top or a very short bottom, but if you try to have both you're a skank.
CJRLW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Contrast. I dress down/more casual when clean-shaven and my hair is neatly done.
If I am dressed more fancily, I am more likely to have stubble and my hair messier.
dingus_prime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, both work fine for me.
YogiOak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Got shoulder length curly hair and decided to grow my beard out for a while. Took a family photo to realise it's one or the other. kept the hair and gone for a neat short small beard and have been told I look so much better
delight_petrichor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Female input: scruffy beard is much more forgivable than scruffy hair. You can forget about your beard for a week, but get your hair cut, dudes.
I'm admittedly biased. I love beards.
sk_47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn that's right
Thexorretor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black men can't get away with scruffy hair. It takes just a few hairs out of place to signify homelessness.
AmazingShurtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I call this the Brent Burns
Shepards_Conscience ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, clean cut hair and long scruffy beard is very in right now. When I had both, I looked like a stoner. Now I keep my hair clean cut and my beard long, it's normal.
JakePF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment made me get up and shave. Congrats you were right, best advice I've gotten in a while. Thanks dude
dio_affogato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Indulge in one vice at a time. Kind of the same idea
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I shaved today and felt a lot better about my messy hair, which never looks neat, no matter what I try.
So I guess clean shaven is just how I should be.
WolfNippleChips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone told me I look like I've been writing a novel, may be time for a hair cut...because I'm not shaving my beard (I look like the boss so much that I am constantly mistaken for him by other company employees, he doesn't have a beard, so I'm keeping that difference)
rainbowsnthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of the fact that my husband, before he met me, he would grow out his hair and beard all wild, then shave EVERYTHING bald when it got too long.
That changed real quick. I can cut hair now.
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This does not work if you have pubes for hair.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I'm rocking a nice beard finally, but I shave the sides of my head and keep a nice neat man bun. First day of college was today and I already received compliments.
madbaddangerous2know ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is my mantra. Tight, short hair and a six-month beard going on right now.
DishwasherTwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My scruffy hair is staying, that's nonnegotiable. So that means I need to do something with my scruffy beard, but I don't know what. It's a bit patchy and thin in parts and light everywhere, I don't know how I can keep it looking good. And clean shaven is also a no go, I don't really have definition in my chin and I hate it.
xxslipknotfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You scruffy looking nerf-herder!
CAT_JESUS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, scruffy hair and scruffy beard, AKA The Charlie Kelly
SWATZombies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a guy at my work who has both, and its just unsettling. And this is coming from a guy who has a decent sized beard
Chickenchaser442 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smart man
Sultan_of_Sass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
#2 haircut and slight stubble, a semblance of having your shit in order mixed with a sense of mild alcoholism.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definite +1 on this. For about a year I had scruffy hair and a scruffy beard, only now do I realise how awful I looked. If I was some rock musician snorting cocaine off of groupies 24/7 it might have been okay, but I wasn't. I think facial hair suits me, so I have a very professional haircut with some 'free' facial hair and it seems to suit me a lot more.
happy_K ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you live in California. GF doesn't want me to ever shave or trim hair. Basically the more disheveled I look, the more she wants to bone.
nimbusdimbus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What sucks for me is that I'm at that stage of a beard where the whiskers on the chin are nice and full but I still have the scraggly, nasty shit on my cheeks. Going to give it another couple of weeks to see if it fills in.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all about balancing it. Wear a really smart posh suit? Grow a bit of stubble. Wearing a leather jacket and jeans? Shave.
WebDesignBetty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My teenage son would do good to learn this.
Sengura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. Guess I need a haircut now.
ZeusMcFly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
truth, long hair tight as fuck beard signing in.
AvatarWaang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to leave my hair a mess and my facial hair unkempt and look like a wild man.
mclendenin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The SAFER version of this advice is that a clean shaven man is always attractive. Facial hair is ALWAYS a gamble.
bossmt_2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is incorrect. When it comes to any look your own confidence and personality are what sells it.
Granted it's apples and mega hot celebrities. But we've seen guys like Christian Bale, Jared Leto, Colin Farrell, Chris Hemsworth, and a stable of rock stars pull off long hair and scruffy facial hair. Now the catch and maybe what you're referring to is having a really long beard (like say Joaquin Phoenix in that movie where he pretended he was crazy in public)
But again, 90% of physically looking good is confidence. Especially if you're a guy. If you ask enough women you'll hear some very fugly dudes be described as attractive.
Cgdb10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old double scruff
E-sharp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So for minimum effort, cut hair, wait ~3 weeks for it to start to get sloppy, trim beard/shave, wait a week, and repeat. I've been rocking this cycle the past few months to great effect
Ultimatedeathfart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to see a picture of you, Dave.
3sheetz ยท 1856 points ยท Posted at 18:56:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
According to Tinder, don't mention you smoke.
EDIT: Also, don't smoke.
EDIT 2: Damn, this exploded and I thought it would get burried. For detail, I am a male and I've been "experimenting" with Tinder. Thought I'd be honest and mention I smoke in my profile and that resulted in WAY less matches. Not that I was rolling in them though. I AM trying to quit, and believe it or not, this discovery is helping. Always knew it was unattractive, but I'd never seen the results so obviously. I've been out of the dating game for a while and when I was, I surrounded myself with people who smoke at smoking friendly places (college). It was a lot easier then. Now I realize that it is true that less than 15 percent of the USA still smokes, and I know why.
Yes, I was only talking about tobacco. I pretty sure a massive amount more women find tobacco way more repulsive compared to weed.
Tebeku ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 20:36:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tobacco is gross. I think it's pretty much only attractive to other smokers since they want people to smoke around.
atchman25 ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 22:14:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it looks cool. It's terrible for you, I definitely don't do it myself, but I'm not gonna sit here and lie to myself and say it doesn't look cool.
LikeAMillionButts ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 00:02:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something that was pointed out to me that changed my opinion was that it isn't the smoking, but the person. I mean when I think of cool people who smoke I think of James Dean, Audrey Hepburn, Jimmy Stewart (I don't know why I can only think of old actors). These are cool people who made the smoking look cool. Think of someone's old aunt smoking a pack a day in her pale yellow couch. I kind of imagine Mac's mom from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The image of a cool person doing a rebellious thing is badass. Also just a person having something in their hands is kind of cool. A stylish person with a cup of coffee can actually give off a similar vibe, but again has to be a cool person, otherwise you just look like everyone else.
TheStooner ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:39:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all about the vibes you give off. Some days you look like an ugly fuck smoking a dart waiting for the bus. Other times you can be a cultured intellectual enjoying a puff as he reads his literature in front of a crackling fire. Edit: Wearing a housecoat. Disco cane optional.
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[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:04:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
grew up with a father who smoked a lot. has made me find the smell a lot more appealing than it has any right to be
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[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:20:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fair enough mate. i just really looked up to my dad when i was little, so it made me glamourise sort of everything about his character. the smell of nicotine is nostalgic to me.
NervousTyphoon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:08:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather uses smokeless tobacco all the time. The smell on him and his shirts when I hugged him comforted me when I was younger and now, I know its disgusting but I still like the smell
YukarinVal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:14:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough, I like smelling unlit, new cigarettes. Something about it feels nice. That's until someone smoking reminded me why I hate cigarettes.
legakhsirE ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:07:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily. I have something of a crush on a smoker who drops by my place of work regularly and the instant the smell of smoke + cologne hits me, it takes a lot within me to resist the urge to strip naked and scream "take me now!"
ZincCadmium ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:24:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people wear the smell really well. One of my exes smoked, and I never noticed it on his lips or hands, and my bff in college smoked. Whenever I smell someone smoking her brand I get nostalgic, not grossed out.
But my dad and his family mostly smell terrible, and I smell terrible after being with them.
NotADemon_AMA ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:26:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The age old 'If a girl smokes, she puts out' is pretty accurate in my experience, so I think that probably encourages men to smoke.
DerNubenfrieken ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:49:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And to be honest its a good conversation starter, smokers are a social bunch, and people just feel a lot more open when they're standing outside a bar than inside it.
NotADemon_AMA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:34:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I must say, my favorite part about the bar might be the outside smokers conversation. It's like we all share the feeling of "fuck whatever is inside, I'm trying to be outside just chilling and smoking a cig."
Brrringsaythealiens ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 23:36:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not condoning it (quit six years ago) but I think it is sexy. The taste, the smell, everything. I fucked too many hot smokers in my formative years I guess.
black-lnk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:51:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The formative years are when you are 1-5 years old. Unless you actively grew up with a child predator, please consider changing your phrasing so you don't get confused downvotes or upvotes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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black-lnk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Formative years are when you are still a toddler. It's much different than adolescence.
adrolter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. You...don't know what you're talking about. At all. It's literally synonymous with adolescence.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Formative+years
DarkwingDuc ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 23:08:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a Monet. Looks cool at a distance, but up close it's a mess. The smell, the breath, the ashes and butts everywhere, the disgusting noises and coughs. It's just gross all around.
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DarkwingDuc ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 23:58:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smokers always say they can, but they never do. Maybe they think they do, but it's always obvious, and disgusting, to those who don't smoke.
And that's not even getting into the longterm health implications, the callous disregard for the health of those around them, and the constantly having to halt what you're doing for a smoke break.
Seriously, smoking is a complete non-starter for me.
not_caineghest ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:45:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you ever consider that there are people out there that smoke but you didn't realize it because they didn't have those features? I am by no means trying to defend smoking, but that sort of mentality is a very common one. "All people of X kind have the really distinguishable Y trait." "No not all of them." "Well all of the X that I've seen are Y."
Sure, there's definitely gonna be a correlation. Someone coughing up a lung and reeking of smoke indicates pretty well that they smoke. But just because a trait shows an attribute, does not mean the lack of that trait shows a lack of that attribute.
Consider the fact that in the US, roughly one in six people smoke. In your day to day affairs, going to restaurants or shopping at a store or waiting in line at the bank, etc. etc. do you notice one smoker for every six people you see? I'm guessing not, but statistics would bear out that anywhere from one in ten to one in five people you would encounter on a regular basis are smokers. The number of smokers with glaringly obvious traits, however, I assume would be much smaller than that, unless you're regularly meeting or noticing people on a daily basis in those ratios that reek of smoke and and are loudly coughing and wheezing.
Now perhaps your own personal conception of a smoker doesn't "fit" the average smoker. There's a difference between someone that has a few cigarettes each week and someone that goes through a pack a day. But even someone that only spokes a cigarette once or twice a week is still considered "a smoker" and they avoid those traits just fine.
Mammal-k ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're being a dick. I don't smoke around other people unless we are outside, I don't blow smoke toward them, I am not disregarding any bodies health but my own.
Also I don't know about your friends but I can wait until I have finished doing something before I have a cig.
And on your previous comment; smoking outside, using a bin, chewing gum and good hygiene fix most of your complaints...
throwaysistah ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:33:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what he's describing is somone with a smoking problem. there's a difference between that and a smoker. I've dated someone that always tasted and smelled nasty and was always coughing and hacking and it made me gag to listen to. He smoked way too much. I've also dated lots of people that smoked, and it wasn't the same at all.
mrgmzc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here I was smoking... Hit hard
bambulance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice "clueless" reference.
ImJLu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:07:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How old are you? Most people under 25 these days (from my experience) find it repulsive. The anti-smoking education is really working.
atchman25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 22.
ImJLu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Maybe regional differences or whatever. I don't know many people who smoke or think it looks cool.
atchman25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe. I live in NYC
ImJLu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, I went to high school in NYC. Prep school, though. One of the ones the Post loves to rip on.
LordessMeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YES. I hate everything about smoking but I'll admit that it looks incredibly cool. But, yeah, the smell hits and then I'm all 'get the fuck away from me'.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:43:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I started smoking. Sounds dumb, doesn't it? Probably is, but I just respect the work of all those highly paid marketing executives, who actually pulled it off that something so profoundly dumb is deeply ingrained in our collective cultural consciousness as cool, and I want a piece of their work.
SazzeTF ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:27:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, but to be honest people do a lot because it looks and seems cool. And to be even more honest, i tried cocaine for the sole reason that it looked awesome in movies - and hot diggity, it was awesome. Not wonder people get addicted to it!
OfficerTwix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:41:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It only looks cool if the person is attractive
If you see an ugly fuck something it's uncool as fuck
TheObstruction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it looks cool. But I think it's cooler than those huffers everyone has now. At least when you smoke tobacco, you are saying to the world "I know it's bad, and I know there are options, but fuck it, I WANT to smoke these things."
FarSightXR-20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, I think it looks really lame. I remember all of the kids outside in the smoke pit outside of my high school during breaks. haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't feel like it looks cool. My dad always smoked and my dad was an Asshole, so I think I was never affected by the "cigarettes are cool" mentality. They've always seemed just like a way to shorten your life span very early.
But there is a similar thing I think is cool: having a Twislers in your mouth, constantly. A cigarette-length poking out. That's cool. Try it.
Accalon-0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:37:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cigarettes look cool. Vapes make you look like the worst loser on Earth.
Jealousy123 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:00:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking does make you look cool.
That's why I smoke pot. Look cool, have a significantly lower risk of cancer than with cigarettes, and I get high!
Plus no addiction.
xXDiggerNickXx ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:25:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a heavy smoker, I refuse to date women who smoke because I hope it'll help curb my helpless addiction. I can, and have, quit but only when I WANTED to and a non smoking partner helps me want to. Just a thought.
JakePops ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:24:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This feels appropriate here.
Sorry if this is intrusive.
Tocoapuffs ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:46:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So true. I want to be a musician and I spent forever trying to find friends who would join me in a band. After 6 years of saying "I can't because nobody will join me. Poor pitiful me." I just said fuck it and recorded some stuff and threw it online. I told friends about it and someone ended up calling me.
GreenBracelets ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've attempted bass 3x now and I quit due to my lack of patience with myself. Thanks for this
matroxman11 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:28:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a really great video. I've got some shit to think about now...
DerNubenfrieken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, 100% true. Like it just makes it that much easier to quit, because you don't have a reminder around or someone to bum from, and you don't want to drag her outside, etc.
jacksontimothy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lmao if you currently smoke you never actually quit you helpless drug addict so don't use that term because you don't deserve it, just belittles the real people out there who've done what you can only imagine ya fuckin chode
xXDiggerNickXx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:35:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started again after a 6 month break so yes I did not truly quit, I apologize for any insult. Also, calling me a helpless drug addict is less "ha in your face" and more of a sobering thing so thank you. I think.
jacksontimothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:39 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yet you prolly still smoking (maybe even while you read this surly comment.) grats.
DarkSideMoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the level of smoking. I smoke when I drink or I'm super stressed out (Maybe two packs a month at worst.). I find girls that do the same to be more attractive than non-smokers, but I find habitual smokers less attractive than non-smokers.
shadytrex ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 22:22:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Finding out someone smokes immediately kills any attraction for me. I can't stand the taste. Have kissed really attractive smokers - instant disappointment.
asdvffslvja ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:56:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, that taste... I can sort of get over it if I'm drunk, but as soon as I'm sober, it's over.
spenway18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:25:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd never thought about the taste issue from smoking until my very attractive friend told me at a Halloween party. Both a bit faded, she gives me a really seductive look and says "You shouldn't smoke, you know. Your clothes will smell better, your breath wink will be fresh".
As I type this I've got my vape pen and hopes for a smokeless, better-smelling-and-tasting future
Mint_Berry_Cruuunch ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 21:14:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't smoke, but everytime i see that commercial about swiping left on smokers i want to smoke 2 packs a day out of spite.
fnybny ยท 144 points ยท Posted at 21:52:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girls who swipe left on smokers only do lights-off missionary.
NotADemon_AMA ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:25:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Her father must watch.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:08:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm okay with lights out missionary only if her father watches
alvik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is left good or bad?
BurntRussian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Left is denied.
bettywhitefleshlight ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:00:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The commercials with the "smokers be like" line make me want to buy a carton and consume the entire thing in one sitting. I don't even smoke habitually and it has that effect on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdpHzKjYD0
EastBayFan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:19:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh! Ooh! What about "It's a Trap"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4srWvLXZRw
I like it because it appeals to my youth.
bettywhitefleshlight ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:34:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm feeling a lot of anger and hatred right now. More toward the "meme generation" than anti-smoking chumps.
Flaggermusmannen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:20:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck..
stealhome369 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:10:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like you're in my brain! Only I do smoke. Every time I even consider cutting back one of those comes on and I chain smoke out of spite.
YYZ_tomato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why. Can you elaborate?
stealhome369 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like they assume all smokers are mindless idiots who don't know where their money goes. Also it's like the Dane Cook of anti smoking ads.
"Look at this idiot being an idiot. Smokers are dumb. Don't smoke, kids."
Kenny__Loggins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pisses me off too. I smoke occasionally and people really hop on a high horse over it sometime.
bettywhitefleshlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like having a craving out of obstinance. I know it's bad and I don't really want to smoke but obnoxious shit telling me not to smoke gives me a strong desire to smoke.
RealJuanDoe ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:05:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's standards on Tinder?!
DeathsIntent96 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 01:24:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Tinder isn't really trashy like people on Reddit pretend it is.
karinabot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:45:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I haven't tried tinder. It's nice to know that it's not filled with nothing but 64 year old men with a huge black van, tinted windows, and a box full of puppies in the back as I've imagined.
Rampachs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:07:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing about tinder is that if the 64 year olds are telling the truth about their age you won't ever see them if you restrict your age lower. And if they lie, you swipe against them and they can't message you. Only those you match with can message. As a woman who has used other dating sites, not having men as old as my father telling me 'age is just a number' was a huge plus.
Dragon_DLV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:53 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost annoying sometimes.
I finally picked the thing in an attempt to meet more people. I musta been late to the "Hookup" boat. About 92% of the Profiles I read say "NO HOOKUPS, Serious BFs only" or some shit like that. Not that I wouldn't mind finding a GF on Tinder, but I want to talk to someone first.
Maybe I'm breaking one of the Two Rules of Attractiveness, but I've been getting zilcho bites, and when I do, they rarely respond.
Zur1ch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it's mostly bots.
CleaningBird ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:36:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely don't smoke. I will say this on every relevant comment thread I can find until the day I die from something other than lung cancer: My Papaw was a helluva guy, and he did not deserve to die the way he did (lung cancer from decades of smoking). No matter who you are, someone out there feels like you're a helluva guy/gal too, so maybe don't smoke so they don't have to go through the process of you dying from something awful and preventable.
throwaysistah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but can't people still get lung cancer even if they've never smoked? it seems to me that cancer is never 100% preventable.
gigitrix ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:14:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Life is Russian roulette.
Why put more bullets in the chamber for the hell of it?
CleaningBird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's not, nothing in life is 100% preventable. But why raise your risk by so many factors, knowing it's such a nasty way to die? Your chances of getting lung cancer as a non-smoker are miniscule compared to those of a smoker; there's an overwhelming body of evidence to back that up. It's like wearing a seatbelt - sure, you could still die in a car accident, but it's a good idea to wear the seatbelt, because it does indeed prevent you from dying in most car accidents.
kaizex ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:46:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sigh. My paps died when icwas 14 from esophegeal cancer. It stemmed from two things in his formative years, unhealthy eating (the larger factor actually for this specific cancer) and smoking. Always rhought i wouldnt ever smoke. But then life happened. Now im a pack a dayer. Ive got people who care for me and rely on me. And one day ill quit. When we start trying for a family ill quit. But today. Today i smoke for me. There are few things left in my life that i decided for myself. And this is one. Its a part of who i am based on that. One day soon ill decide a whole new life. And thats the day this habit will die. But today. I hold on to what i have
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:01:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is unfortunately invalid in europe
PowerMac_G4 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:26:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a European who quit yesterday I would beg to differ. I realised that a very large amount of the people I know looked down on me for smoking and that it made me look trashy, so I'm done for now. Smoking fucking sucks.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations on quitting. Hope you keep it up.
TheStooner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man that first week after your last smoke is hell, but at the end of the week, stand up, and revel in how good your body feels compared to a week ago. It really is incredible, and you don't notice it at all until you quit.
brokenstep ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:24:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
England here, smokers are liked less and less. Everyone converted to vaping. Personally I hate both but I mean who am I to judge you basically ruining everything about your life, and mine. 10/10
thatguyfromb4 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:45:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats debatable
brokenstep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meant to say the concept of smoking is liked less and less. My first point still looks about right, but my "social circle" isnt the mainstream, so I cant really tell you about peoples opinions. I used to hate smoking, still do. Idk about the rest of you
RichieBooth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In what way have smokers ruined everything about your life that must be a hell of a story
brokenstep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrote that at 4am in the morning. Idk what I was thinking. I think I meant to say they're ruining their own lives, the mine part idk
RichieBooth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:30:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No worries mate nothing matters
smokemonmast3r ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 22:48:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vaping is basically the exact same thing as smoking.
"But smokemon, you don't smell this way, so obviously it's better for your health. "
It's not. No one has any goddamn idea what they put in those things.
wyldstallyns111 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:36:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact, a lot of that "vaping is just as bad for you as smoking (maybe)" talk comes from big tobacco companies. I think they've even funded studies to try to prove it.
Optionions ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:20:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is just blatantly untrue, and I don't smoke or vape. We know exactly what's in the liquid and it's a hell of a lot better for you than tobacco. No tar or smoke particles for a start, which do basically all of the damage of smoking.
Kenny__Loggins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do we really know what vaping does healthwise? I thought it was still being researched and debated
Optionions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We don't entirely know long term, but it's definitely not as bad as smoking. We don't really know what nicotine will do long term without being masked by the effects of the other things in tobacco.
ImKindaHighBut ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:31:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't be... Generalizing a topic would you?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:23:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're so uninformed its almost funny. Yes they do. It's called vegetable glycerin, propylene glycol, and nicotine. Do moooore research. And no there are no dangerous fumes when these are vaped, because they don't reach a high enough temperature to do so.
Redarmy1917 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And what's everything used to make your stupid flavors?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Safe FDA approved flavors you dunce. Adirondack is bae.
Redarmy1917 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, cause the FDA has an amazing track record with calling stuff safe, there's no history of them approving drugs or anything that's caused major health issues. Only way to know is by the public being guinea pigs and us seeing the effects afterwards.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao aight you could apply that same logic and ignore every item in a grocery store.
Redarmy1917 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except for, you know, items that have been around for awhile.
Kenny__Loggins ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:20:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly just your mom's cunt juice
Lynch_King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DANGAAAA ZONNEEE
brokenstep ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:48:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean your health is your problem. As long as I dont get harmed (passive smoking), and you dont stink (meaning I can actually be around you in social places), im fine.
Im personally against both. I dont see the point personally, but to be fair I dont drink so to each their own, right?
Its a way better alternative imo. I mean if you want to harm your body, you do you, but dont make me deal with the consequences of your actions.
bearcat88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knows you are a smoker. You can't hide the smell. We all know you sneak out to smoke. You stink when you walk into an elevator, into an office face, at the cash register, sitting next to someone on the train. You smell bad and you are annoying. I avoid smokers like the plague and have avoided relationships with people I have liked a lot because the smell is so gross to me.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:29:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But my brain tells me that I enjoy spending lots of money propping up sadistic corporations that sue countries and that I actually enjoy littering and lowing my life expectancy and those around me :(
3sheetz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:31:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might be able to say the same thing about oil.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:10:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oil? Well we all know that's bad for the environment but it's pretty difficult to cut that out of a normal persons life.
Plastics, fuel, etc. Pretty essential :/
Electriksoda ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:07:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut fuel out of your diet. You'll miss it for a month and then won't give a shit. I've had maybe 3-4 refuels over the past 2 years, they taste disgusting to me now. Only way I'll touch fuel or oil is if there's rum or vodka in it, and then it better be the sugar free kind.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it economically sound to install solar panels on my head now?
frostysauce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be fun to hang around..
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am :D
NotADemon_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to Comcast!
SargeMacLethal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But do mention that you're 420 friendly ;)
simon_says_cool_stuf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about cigars?
Are cigars cool?
dustmouse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, Tinder sounds like a site for smokers.
Orchir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cigarettes
karinabot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm what if it's not cigarettes? I can't stand cigarettes they make me feel nauseous which is why I can't ever smoke them but I occasionally smoke weed (maybe 1 or 2 times out of the week). Also lately I've noticed that most guys don't mind that I do. And I've always wondered why they don't mind if they don't like to smoke themselves. Especially if smoking is an unattractive habit.
3sheetz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my book, weed, salvia, DMT, or any other smokable that isn't crack, meth, or PCP is fine.
NeoZenith1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man with asthma I can't stand it
username_redacted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to Tinder in my city, if you don't rock-climb you're pretty much out of the running. Seriously, every single girl has pictures of them rock-climbing. There aren't enough rocks in the world for the amount of climbing they claim to be doing.
Zakraidarksorrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Started chatting to a girl, already knew smoking was awful and disgusting, quit before having to tell her.
I also used to feel really awkward lighting on up around a bunch of people who don't smoke. It feels rude.
cclemon21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, be tall.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not huge on cigarettes, I mean I've bought a few boxes when I go out, have like five or six within 20 minutes then begin to feel sick which makes me depressed and I always throw them away. I'm a pretty big weed smoker (several times daily) and for some reason I could never smell marijuana smoke, but I decided to smell my bong yesterday after smoking and it smells disgusting. Makes me question when I would smoke and walk inside incognito thinking nobody could smell a thing.
Aldog44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found a chick who's main pic was her smoking a bong made out of a ketchup bottle once. Fastest I've ever swiped right (after I took a screenshot of course)
sweezinator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
#leftswipethat
me_suds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to every girl standing out side a bar make sure you do smoke
KiloChild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It won't matter if you follow the two rules.
1) Be attractive.
2) Don't be unattractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, there was a quote going around for a while "hey look at that girl, she's so hot! Oh wait, she smokes, never mind".
Pretty accurate if you ask me, smoking is a mega turn off.
flclimber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lef swipe dat
Tahetal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But most of my tinder bitches love me for my weed
derefr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women who smoke tend to start naturally doing that voice thing, though. It's aesthetically pleasing to me.
ZincCadmium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty ambivalent about dating smokers, but when it's such a part of your personality that you mention it on your profile, I find that problematic.
BrutalWarPig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I have a smoking fetish......
I mean would never marry a smoker but just once I would like a hot chick to sit on my face, smoke a cigarette and get up and leave.
Dodecabrohedron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And be really shitty at telling jokes.
firelights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LEFT SWIPE THAT
Thiickshake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fucking love smoking but god is it killing me!
PickleWickleton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm tony, as you can see I work out and I love animals but I'm really into cigarettes and smelling my own fartsss
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I quit not too long ago, but I hated the smell of other people smoking. I started about 6 months ago for reasons I'm not going to get into, and it was fine during a smoke. The smell AFTER or smoke from someone else was annoying to have around.
FarSightXR-20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just about it being unattractive. It's about the negative long-term consequences it can have on your health. If the smell of smoke giving me headaches didn't scare me off, this certainly would.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Smoking is a hardcore deal breaker for me.
therapistiscrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I was sitting next to a very attractive guy at the dmv but he smelled like an ash tray. It turned my stomach so bad I no longer found him attractive.
adavidz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to quit smoking, think about trying one of those electronic cigarettes. My mom smoked for decades. My dad got her an e-cig for christmas one year and she never had another cigarette.
vth0mas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ex-smoker, can confirm. I'm not swimming in pussy by any means, but I definitely get plenty more positive female attention than I used to. Two female coworkers in particular used to really treat me poorly, and that's since changed.
It's not just the smell. Those things are nasty and they ruin your health, make you irritable and snappy. They damage in you in so many imperceptible ways that, even though I'm still fighting off the last of the post-quit anxiety and depression months later, I am still astonished by how different I feel today.
So yeah, having potential friends not be scared away by your glassy eyes, furrowed brow, fidgety angst, bad scent, sarcastic yellow smile and your incessant need to break away from all the healthy people to do your nonsense is definitely a good idea.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair I was a smoker, I don't get why I wouldn't put it in my profile, they're going to find out anyway.
Batmogirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another motivator: Your cum tastes absolutely horrible if you smoke. Quit smoking and there's a lot better chance of getting the girl to swallow when doing a BJ.
aidan2784 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta gotta gotta swipe it left
LEFT SWIPE DAT
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even really mind smoking, it doesn't gross me out the way it seems to gross other people out. Still wouldn't date a smoker (at least, not for more than a hot minute) because they're not a viable longterm partner. Chances are pretty good that they're going to get awful cancer and die an awful death and leave me alone at like, 70. I don't want to go into a relationship knowing there's some big habit of theirs we already have to change if we're gonna have a satisfying longterm partnership.
RuneKatashima ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:11 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can always do a social experiment. Best to do it with a female friend and tell them what you're doing, especially if you can show them.
Get a picture and make a female profile with a cute girl, make TWO. One smokes, one doesn't. Keep everything else the same. (Probably should change the picture though).
View results.
brokenstep ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 22:23:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I legitimately will change the way I see someone if I find out they smoke. It means : 1) You are gullible and unoriginal and just follow the pack. 2)You probably smell bad which explains the amount of cologne you use.
frostysauce ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:39:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You realize that smokers are far and away in the minority, right?
smokemonmast3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shhhh. Don't challenge people's biases on reddit or you'll get downvoted.
Tbh I'm actually amazed that so many think this way of smoking, it's like they don't realize that smoking is an enjoyable activity and that you're retarded for enjoying something unhealthy.
frostysauce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I'm wondering how many of these people are judging smokers through a haze of Cheeto dust, in-between checking their Hot Pockets and popping another Mtn. Dew.
brokenstep ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:51:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean doesnt smoking also involve vaping nowadays. Its just instead of cigarettes they vape. Same concept, same act, different product.
At least then youd have been just part of the pack, but honestly I dont understand how people get into smoking now that its a minority. Looks cool maybe?
PurpleMTL ยท 4777 points ยท Posted at 14:05:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your ass
orochiman ยท 1444 points ยท Posted at 17:16:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit don't change until you get up and wash your ass
thingsOPis ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 21:51:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once upon a time In a city so divine called west side Compton..
juskajo ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:48:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
...there stood a little..uh, gentleman. He was five foot sumthin'
Kenny__Loggins ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:41:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao at your pc edit
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:14:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God bless the kid
mdogg500 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:26:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God blessed the kid, took his homie to the show and this is what he said...
juskajo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:37:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Fuck am I 'posed to do when I'm lookin' at walkin' licks? The constant big money talk 'bout the mansion and foreign whips. The private jets and passport, presidential glass floor. Gold bottles, gold models, sniffin' up the ass for Instagram flicks. Suckin dick. Fuck is this? One more sucker wavin' wit a flashy wrist. My defense mechanism tell me to get him Quickly because he got it. It's a recession, then why the fuck he at King of Diamonds? No more livin' poor. Meet my four-four. When I see 'em, put the per diem on the floor. Now Kendrick, know they're your co-workers, But it's gon' take a lot for this pistol go cold turkey. Now I can watch his watch on the TV and be okay. But see I'm on the clock once that watch landin' in LA. Remember steal from the rich and givin' it back to the poor? Well that's me at these awards. I guess my grandmama was warnin' a boy. She said...
Anal_Gravity ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:30:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This dick ain't free.
bite_my_nuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There stood a little ninja he was 5' somethin
bowie-in-space ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 18:14:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That song started playing in my head as soon as I read it.
JoshFreemansFro ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:15:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
All I want to do is play Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 now
edit: oops, wrong song about washing your ass
tatchiii ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
why?
dlokatys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wat
MrHaddad1213 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna be pissed if I didn't see the lyric.
warlikewater ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 18:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Booooooy
1XtraBad1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:46:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Words to live by...
CinnaTheUgly ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:40:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
booyyyyyyyyy
Wellbritton ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:46:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa now...slow down.
ader321 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:41:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NIGGUH
Acid_Braindrops ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:34:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that what the lyrics are?
Kenny__Loggins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep.
GoodBadAndUgly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But seriously, what does that even mean?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:12:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it was just a way of saying you can't expect things to get better by themselves, "get up and wash your ass" meaning the situation on Compton won't get better until people make am effort
orochiman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:38:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a line from "institutionalized" by Kendrick Lamar. The "number one rapper in the world". He has been nominated for 11 Grammy's this year.
GoodBadAndUgly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:40:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I know! I love both his albums. But I just don't get what the hell that line means?
orochiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh sweet! And that's a pretty good question. I imagine it has to do with the overall theme of the album, which is combating black commercialism, and marketing campaigns that are focused on blacks in America. My opinion is that it's about grounding the "kid" that the album is about, and reminding him of his roots in compton.
GoodBadAndUgly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I also found a good explanation on rapgenius but I cant seem to copy the text.
orochiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh if you can get it is love to read it!
IandIreckon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you love both albums you should listen to Section 80. His best IMO (He has released more than just 2)
Kenny__Loggins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think about it. "Shit don't change" is a double entendre. First meaning is in the colloquial sense you see people use that phrase and the second meaning is literal as shown by the rest of the lyric - washing your ass.
So then "wash your ass" becomes a double entendre as well. First meaning being the literal, second being doing what it takes to change real life issues.
deja_vuduu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You left out a word.
mrfishycrackers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once soon in a city so Devine called West Side Compton
justmtnwtr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
booooooy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once upon a time in a city so Devine...
alowester ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:55:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
niguh
barntobebad ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 20:49:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For anyone unclear on this, yes you need to go between the cheeks. Soaping the cheeks and "letting the water get it" is not washing your ass.
PurpleMTL ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 20:58:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get it wayyy up in there. Wayyy deep.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:56:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do it for Grandpa, Morty.
MotoTheBadMofo ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:20:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who the fuck doesn't do that?
HeathenAnimal ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:56:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My question exactly. People seriously don't wash their ass cracks?! That's like the part that needs washing most of all.
Wess_Mantooth_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:55:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but cheeks aren't the dirty part, how can somebody not know this!?!?!
notrealmate ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:37:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because they believe their shit don't stink. They think they shit rainbows and glitter, and not faeces.
grocket ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta get all the way up to the colon or you're not really clean.
ThisIs_MyName ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:48 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No need to stop there. See /r/distension
Digitalburn ยท 5726 points ยท Posted at 14:13:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My donkey's hygiene is not your concern.
chumothy ยท 1654 points ยท Posted at 14:32:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is if you're using the donkey to pick up your date.
Jitterrr ยท 2735 points ยท Posted at 18:04:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She is my date.
chumothy ยท 598 points ยท Posted at 18:07:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just be sure you treat her right, babe.
[deleted] ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 20:25:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
NightmaresInNeurosis ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 20:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So a pig, a donkey, and OP walk into a bar.
He orders a drink.
NiobiumGoat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:58:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The... the batrender says... he syas...
"Why the long butt?" HUAH.
GuyFawkes596 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:20:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calm down, James Brown.
Amphorix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah I left the wife at home.
csbsju_guyyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That'll do
weres_youre_rhombus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:07:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love reddit.
llll-l_llllll_ll-l-l ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:08:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats alright but where's your rhombus?
chumothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too.
HeWentToJared91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tap dat ass
Conmun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shh baby is okay
distopiandoormatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Babe and a donkey on a date? I don't believe it.
spockalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pigs and donkeys dating? Are you mad, man!?
Globalwrath ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:42:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I ain't no pig!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:51:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know my pig?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:43:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No no no, babe's a pig
Geonai ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:41:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She's not a pig!
alldawgsgotoheaven ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:26:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Babe is a pig not a donkey.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:17:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JRHNBR
JohnGillnitz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kelly can be a boy's name.
Psotnik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kinky Kelly and the sexy stud
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:31:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shrekkt.
XxEpicTacosxX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calm down, ISIS.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:04:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the ISIS soldier.
HappyFappyT1ME ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ISIS member confirmed
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
[removed]
gimmeboobs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
INTERSPECIES EROTICA
UselessGadget ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a huge boner right now.
christ-mas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just the right height no bucket required.
ImAHorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You won't need one with me. Until it's over. ;)
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:28:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
found the jihadi
Actionmaths ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AY AY AY UN BURRO!!!
TheVentiLebowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's myย only means of conveyance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I rode into town on an ass.
Yo mama's ass.
NCjmw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JTRHNBR?
Gswansso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"God Dammit, Tina! Eat the FOOD!"
conn250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JRHNBR
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And your ride home.
pixelprophet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud!
robsstuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Dapple how I have missed you
dudebroth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isis makin a change I see
TheTweets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jtrhnbr?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
isis is getting better standards
Randomn355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the more reason to wash her!!
Not_a_hipster451 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JTRHNBR?
Norse_of_60 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why the long face?
cursed_deity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
see point 1
TallUncle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JRHNBR?
eliochip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DONKEH!
Mythic_Meth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JRHNBR?
ThatDamnRaccoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we prefer interspecies erotica, Fuck-o
Sophilosophical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So there's this one Vice documentary...
ImAHorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm into that.
the_nidificator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't there some Zimbabwean guy who got arrested for fucking a donkey? I think he did it as some sort of "kiss the frog" witchcraft thing.
darthbarracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you considered joining ISIS?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kinky Kelly?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
found the muslim extremist
The_Yar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment chain is lul.
DiabloHunter96 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:05:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fellow Saudi
TheOneWithAGun ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:25:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
O_O
NotADemon_AMA ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:14:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then an Allah Akbar to you too, sir. (joke)
tkousc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:24:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey Girl which one us is gonna be a bigger ass tonight"
fandamplus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't talk about OP's mother like that.
i_no_like_u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stay classy and use an old horse.
Hackrid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fruit choices are not your concern.
moleratical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm not gonna let her into the car
Ar_Ciel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude wants to get married so bad, he's already looking to have women ride his ass all day long.
Irregulator101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to be lonely, at farmersonly.com!
brickmack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about goats?
Wee_littlegaffer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is honestly the plot to a country song
MrDerpsicle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
justkentuckythings
pieyum1 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:56:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the ol' reddit Ass-a-roo
hunhaze ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:46:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my Four legged mammal, I'm going in!
HeyThereMrBrooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:33 on January 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my ass, I'm going in!
Quest_for_Booty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is not a donkey, is burro
SpikeTheFish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:51:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know this movie won't inspire many references on reddit. But I just have to say I am really glad to see at least one person saw it as well and made the connection haha this comment is too long
krankie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least wash your bitch, then.
potatoslasher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ha....ahh, that made me chuckle a little bit
Atheia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But donkey attacks are.
IncontinentiaAir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He aww he aww he hawwways says that!
bananaterracotta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i heard this in a Kenneth Ellen Parcell voice
BotanicalAddiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed out loud for a while at that. Thank you +1
CrimsonCoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also came here to say the donkey attack thing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welp we're all done here folks, pack it up.
Geoff_Uckersilf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is if you want people to eat your donkey.
caughtupincrossfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh...so good.
Mont3y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
uyvsdi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How will I covet it, if it's not bright and shiny?
ImAHorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it's soon to be mine, baby.
GoingOutW3st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy fuck i just squeezed poo out my sphincter reading this exchange. thank you lads.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:12:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing mine is JRHNBR
poopellar ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:57:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inky pinky ponkey
farcense ยท 643 points ยท Posted at 14:50:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or else ya get funky!
leeeesahhh ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 18:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn this brings me back so hard to tony hawk pro skater 3
Big_E33 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:24:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the record del is incredible
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:44:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally underrated. Gave his Future Development record a listen about a month or two ago and its just as good as Both Sides of the Brain.
nasdarovye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deltron 3030, upgrade your gray matter, someday it may matter.
srry72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And related to Ice Cube
littleking96 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:21:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best skateboarding game ever.
SonOfALich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, I personally think that THPS 4 is the culmination of the series.
leeeesahhh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really is. Still to this day its one of my favorite go to games to play while high.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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ThisLilOme408 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:11:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's Tony Hawks American Wasteland. But it's the same series.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, pretty much straight back there when I read this.
Fuck I wish I could go back to when that had just come out, life was awesome.
Dahlia_Dee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:08:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same reaction here! That and Motรถrhead's "ace of spades", which has been piling on the nostalgia for me since Lemmy died
aaronclements ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"AYE! OH! LET'S GO!"
Voiles ยท 294 points ยท Posted at 18:11:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush yo teeth!
The_Nutty_Irishman ยท 236 points ยท Posted at 18:34:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you must
kerrykerrykerry1 ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 20:26:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta wash your hair
hahahahahahahahaaaa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:17:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you must
AW4L ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:20:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be funkee like the homosapien
12ozSlug ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:04:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Del the Funky Homosapien, of Gorillaz and Deltron 3030 fame.
theNightblade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:56:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also of Heiroglyphics and Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 fame.
12ozSlug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hiero is the shit.
Nikap64 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss
SpyderEyez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And floss.
Prasselpikachu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and floss
JedLeland ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a book! Read a book! Read a motherfuckin' book!
Gohack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ch ch ch ch, ch ch ch ch
BuryTheHealer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:33:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush yo teeth! Brush yo goddam teeth!
markevens ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss and masturbate!
mysistersthetoastgrl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush them sluts!
FuckY-all ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then floss!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss yo teeth!
Gortron3030 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:36:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have one dread? and fungus?
farcense ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...do I show?!
Gortron3030 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The funk got you captive
ohyeahthatguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
buttsmoke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I'm so happy someone else listens to Del.
ohyeahthatguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to devise a virus...
FarSightXR-20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg. Tony Hawks pro skater 3. Memories.
GunnarEatBaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Were gonna get funky funky..
everybody clap your hands
[deleted] ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 17:17:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! That's what went wrong on the date :(
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:29:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it was really just my face :(
IAmAWizard_AMA ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're supposed to wash in the middle of the date, then your date will be impressed by your cleanliness
ThegreatPee ยท 464 points ยท Posted at 17:35:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This goes for women as much as men. I dont care how hot you are. Perfume only covers so much.
Tufflaw ยท 456 points ยท Posted at 19:28:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a woman piss herself on the subway once, then she pulled her skirt open and sprayed perfume down there.
Didn't make her any more attractive.
ButterflyAttack ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 19:33:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong perfume, eh?
Koean ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 20:32:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Na, he just preferred the piss
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, needless to say he was pissed about it.
brutallyhonestharvey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:16:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, not Sex Panther for women then?
Kev-Mo88 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that only works 60% of the time, however, in that 60%, it works everytime
NotADemon_AMA ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 22:16:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"What a lovely scent you are wearing. What is that if I may ask?"
"They call it the 'New York.'"
RealJuanDoe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:40:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just made me gay.
Flywolfpack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ben Gay
automatedcrumpet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:10:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...and there's another reason to not sit down on a train seat. Dear God, why!?
navybean ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nor less attractive either I'd bet
parmesan_sean ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If she's high enough on the 1-10 scale it wouldn't make her any less attractive, either.
Tufflaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's below 1?
parmesan_sean ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:19:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's reserved for girls who are underaged and/or corpses.
PM_ME_UR_THROW_AWAYS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey at least she cares
schnarf541 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:49:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm noticing a distinct lack of a statement saying it made her less attractive. You trying to play Switzerland about subway sprays?
avantgardeaclue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:08:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well Coco Chanel did say that perfume should be applied wherever a woman wants to be kissed.
tahiko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:16:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes
folderol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:12:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God some smug bastard sure has some high standards. Oh look at me with my expectations of women. Oh I don't like woman pee; it's gross.
JK,
Kev-Mo88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
maybe he likes woman pee on him, just not on his seat.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the train I play a game where I try to guess Drunk or Mentally Ill. I'd say that girl was drunk. Still gross.
NightCheese18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You hit on her, right?
Golden_Flame0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what the fuck
Andynym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It probably didn't hurt tho
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now it smells like pissy perfume, love, sort it out.
chux4w ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But did it make her any less attractive?
darkbreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In public? And she didn't at all feel a little self conscious about doing that?
Tufflaw ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:05:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK so right now I want to you create an image in your mind, the first thing you think of when I say "crack whore" - she was 10x worse. I don't think "self conscious" came into play.
And she clearly had done this before, she pulled up her skirt to piss (while sitting on the seat) and then nonchalantly sprayed her horrible parts when she was done. And while it wasn't super crowded there were plenty of folks on the train.
I also saw a dude in Penn Station taking a shit behind a garbage can, he seemed surprised to see me walk by.
darkbreak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're life must be terrific.
Tufflaw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:15:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just lucky I guess
rrealnigga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is New York so bad?
Tufflaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah I love New York. This happened several years ago.
AtrociousRebutal ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:16:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and especially if you're going to be intimate with someone.. there are a few sexual positions that really highlight an unclean ass... It's nasty.
skynex1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:01:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually dumped a chick because it smelled like poo when I did her from behind.
WASH YOUR ASS.
ThegreatPee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:28:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol! Why do they think that we can't smell? WTF
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depressing story: I once went to catholic school with a girl whose parents were Super Catholic. To the point that they should have been Mennonite because of the things they would make their kids wear (long skirts everyday, even in gym) and what they wouldn't let them do (organized sports, sleepovers). Well this girl was known as the smelly girl. I came to think of it as a mix of regular body odor, nasty period vag, and swamp ass. It was causing such a disturbance in class that the teacher had to take her aside and talk to her. Later I learned from my mom that she smelled bad because she was taught that her body down there was never to be touched. Ever. I felt really bad for that girl. She was pulled from the school by her parents and homeschooled the following year.
ThegreatPee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:27:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That poor girl would have been better off in foster care. Those parents should have been charged with abuse. Auful.
Mazza1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does this really need to be said? Jesus how has these been upvoted at all.
nsto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I know a dude who broke up with a girl he was dating for about a month, and was pretty into, because the first time he plowed her doggy style, her butt-smellz wafted into his face. He didn't want to tell her to wash her ass because that would be super embarrassing for both parties, so he just ended it rather than smell her butt when they had sex.
DoctorBagels ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:44:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey, let's fuck in the shower"
EASY.
Gohack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can only get so erect, right?
Work_McGurk ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 20:50:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I enjoy the musk of a woman
nobody2000 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:34:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As do I, but ammonia smell is not a part of womanly musk.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:19:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jesus christ
ThegreatPee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations, that's the creepiest thing in my mailbox in a long time!
Assdolf_Shitler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But its like fucking a fishmonger down there
seditive26114 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:36:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can you look a woman in the eyes, say you love her all the while knowing you haven't washed your ass?!
ButterflyAttack ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:34:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just wipe it surreptitiously on the curtains first.
oarabbus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're never allowed in my house.
uniqueishard ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 19:48:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A few years ago, it was revealed to me that a friend of mine didn't know she needed to wash her body. This girl was around 24-25 when somehow showering came up in conversations and she explained what she did. She told them that she's been washing and conditioning her hair and thought that the rinse of that was enough to clean her body. It somehow did not occur to her that she should be washing her body with soap. She was shocked to learn she'd been showering incorrectly for years.
This was not the first time she showed her dumb.
Edit: ok, due to popular opinion, I'd like to rephrase this. The girl I'm talking about did not know people used soap on their bodies during showers and wasn't informed until her 20s. I wasn't the one to label her as being dumb for not knowing but I think it was an accumulation of things that got her labeled as dumb.
PurpleMTL ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:56:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Unclean ass for at least 20 years that's amazing.
CeruleanTresses ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 21:35:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something similar happened to me. My parents taught me how to shower, but never thought to mention that you're supposed to wash your ass. So I probably had swamp ass for my entire childhood.
The kicker is that when I was 12, they realized I wasn't washing my face correctly. They made me shower in front of Mom in a bathing suit so she could reinstruct me, and she still didn't say anything about washing my ass. I think I was in my late teens when I finally figured it out.
hosieryadvocate ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:23:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This just goes to prove that you can never be certain about what the other person knows, unless you ask in detail.
I joined the Canadian Forces, and part of the training included instructions on how to use an ordinary shovel. This got added to the training course, because people showed up to work, and didn't know how to use it. They apparently grew up in an urban environment, and had never used a shovel.
My first drill sergeant also taught us how to shave.
This is why I take great offense at people, who take offense, when being taught basic things.
ZohanDvir ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:51:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your shovel story is how I feel about people who say they can't sweep. It's not something you drive, it's just a fucking broom.
hosieryadvocate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ha ha ha
Broom? That's a new low. I guess that I won't judge them, as long as they are willing to learn.
More often than not, "I can't." means "I won't.".
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:28:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is a really dumb question but to wash it properly, you just put soap around it and use the bath spout as like, a bidet, right?
kylebaked ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:07:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wash it like I'd wash any other part of your body basically. Get some hand scrub action going on, it's okay to touch your butthole in the shower.
treycook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:28 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't use soap on your anus or urethra. They are self-cleaning organs. A water-only bidet method is preferred. Hyper cleaning your privates can lead to anal fissures, anal leakage, urethritis, UTI's, etc. Same reason douching can cause such problems for women.
Have constant swamp-ass? Have brown marks while wiping throughout the day, even if you were completely clean just an hour ago? Stop using soap on your bum hole. Use water and wipe with your hand if you need.
CeruleanTresses ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:12:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, like the other person said, you can put some soap on your hand and just scrub like you would anywhere else. Then just wash your hands right after. But make sure you don't get the soap inside the butthole, that would not be fun.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but if the soap is (lathered) on your hand, it'd get in it the hole. Unless you mean the actual cake of soap... that would be bad.
CeruleanTresses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The soap is not getting in the hole in any significant amount unless you shove your soapy finger up inside it. You don't do that, you just wash the external part of the hole.
AnthX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ahh, just basically where you would wipe anyway. Maybe a bit more. I do that a bit yeah.
cardinal29 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash cloth. Cheap, big stacks of them. I get them at Costco.
They've done studies, it's the scrubbing, not just the soap that gets things clean.
uniqueishard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea.. this girl just lives her life without asking any questions.
solidification ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:34:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any more examples?
uniqueishard ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:36:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I had to think for a little while because I'm not friends with her anymore.
She had an older but reliable car. It wasn't anything special but it was free from her parents. One day, the oil light came on. Not that it should surprise you, but she wasn't very good with car maintenance. So obviously she ignored the light for a while, no matter how much her friends bugged her to get it done. A mutual friend brought her oil to put into her car and left it by her front door because he suspected that not only was she overdue for a change but she must have been low, based on how long she had been ignoring the light. You won't believe what happened next!!
Very soon after the friend left the oil for her, the car stalled and completely seized. And then her parents bought her a brand new car. That made almost every friend who knew about the oil light really annoyed because we knew she had suffered zero consequences from her lack of responsibility AND got a brand new car she didn't have to pay for.
Painting_Agency ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:05:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well to be fair, if she had long hair, there'd be a fair bit of water and surfactant flowing over her skin. Certain crevices might not have been as squeaky clean as one might desire, but unless someone, you know, tasted down there, she'd never know there was a problem.
swingerofbirch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know this either. I have no recollection of being taught how to bathe/shower. I would wash my hair in the shower and I thought that was the purpose of showers. Then my grandmother mentioned something about how she washed her hair at the sink, and I said, Well if you do that, why do you still take showers? She thought it was hilarious, and that's when I found out people wash their bodies.
kangareagle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:24:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people probably do need to use soap every time they shower.
But has it occurred to you that she was 25 years old, and you'd never noticed that she smelled bad or wasn't clean?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Permaculture/comments/152bj3/a_report_on_what_happens_when_you_dont_use_soap/
Mollyu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people don't need to use soap daily? I always thought that that was normal. Although then again I'm a sweaty person that spends a lot of time either exercising it outside. (Or both.)
kagaku ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:11:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Max_Thunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people seem to think that soap has some magical cleaning properties. It's a surfactant, so it helps dislodge fatty substances, and because of that, bacteria don't like it. But you can do most of that through water pressure and some rubbing, and there's no reason to kill most bacteria that live on our skin because they're going to grow back anyway.
It seems that on one hand there are people completely unaware that they smell bad, and on the other hand, there are many clean freaks who think they're going to smell if they don't rub their skin raw with soap.
boomytoons ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:37:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soap drys out your skin which can lead to overproduction of oil to compensate, same goes for hair. Unless you are actually grubby or have just gotten an awesome sweat up at the gym then you don't really need to use soap.
In the long run having dry skin from overuse of soap can age your skin too.
kangareagle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could try it. You don't need soap to wash off sweat. Showering every day with soap is apparently not great for your skin.
Mollyu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people don't need to use soap daily? I always thought that that was normal. Although then again I'm a sweaty person that spends a lot of time either exercising it outside. (Or both.)
uniqueishard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no issues with someone intentionally doing this, if they know how and what they're doing.
I promise you this girl really and honestly did not know she was supposed to be using soap on her body in the first place. It had not occurred to her. So yes, she may not have smelled or I didn't get that close to her physically , but that doesn't take away from her not doing it out of ignorance, rather than a need to do it.
kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get what you're saying, but I'd tweak it. She didn't know that other people use soap every time that they shower. There's no "supposed to".
Karanime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
It's a little strange that people think you're "supposed" to use soap. According to who? Not evolution. Your skin keeps itself clean naturally. Johnson & Johnson, maybe?
If she doesn't need soap, why would she use it?
rubyrose13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend that was like that until she started having sex. Apparently she is very good with soap now.
uniqueishard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I'm honestly not sure what her boyfriends had to deal with before she found out about soap lol.
balanced_view ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did she think shower gel is for?
uniqueishard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:03:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This girl lives her life without asking questions.
LeftCheekRightCheek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It only occurred to me last year that you need to wash your belly button. Ex pointed out to me that my belly button stunk. Like duh, I don't stick my finger in there, even to clean it... Not in at least a decade.
GreenFriday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. I just realised that's exactly what I do.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:24:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing can immediately ruin the start of my day more than when I take a shower and shortly after realize I forgot to wash my ass. Having a freshly cleaned ass is the best part about taking a shower.
PurpleMTL ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:36:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I shower only to wash my ass. Sometimes I use mint shampoo to wash it so it feels super fresh. You should try it if you never did.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:51:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty genius. I might actually try that.
nolotusnotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This shit is a game changer.
Make sure you buy the blue label (Peppermint.)
Gohack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:14:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also use this to scrub my ass... I have found my people.
nolotusnotes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:19:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gods among men, we are.
Gohack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should have our own subreddit...
nolotusnotes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:29:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/BronnerButts ?
/r/MintyRims ?
/r/PeppermintStarfish ?
Gohack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:37:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RubADubButtScrubClub Not sure if it fits, and it might be a tongue twister.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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nolotusnotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had that problem with the peppermint one.
You know how icy your breath feels when you inhale just after a peppermint lifesaver? That's how your whole body reacts when you get out of the shower after using this.
It's CRAZY minty!
Dontb3adick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the ever living fuck is the bottom of the label about?
nolotusnotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About 90% of the label is religious.
Family business. But the soap itself is on point.
Dontb3adick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for posting the full label! Ridiculously curious...
silentbob24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I second the mint shampoo. Just keep that shit away from your eyes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a dude though, I feel it's impossible to feel completely clean with all the hair down there.
mrmdc ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:03:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How you forget to wash your ass? That's like 95% of the reason I shower.
My gauge for needing a shower is entirely based on the freshness of my ass.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It only happens once every couple months, but when it does I panic.
markevens ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:43:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have one of those removable showerheads that you can put on blast mode? Its like getting a rim job in the shower, and cleans your ass for the rim job later.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:45:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So we have 2 showers. One in our master bedroom and one in the bathroom that I use to comb my hair, shave and poop. The one in my bathroom has the removable shower head, but I always shower in the master bathroom. When I do shower in my bathroom, I stick that thing right under my grundle and it's amazing.
derpSlurp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:18:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really enjoyed googling this
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm wary...
ButterflywithWings ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry am noob, but how the hell am I supposed to wash my ass? I was never taught this but I assume a rag? A rag seems a bit primitive though because of shared showers they may find your secret rag. I also don't think my shower head is removable. Am I really supposed to lather up my hand with shampoo and scrub it like some sandpaper against wood? Seems rather disgusting to me.
ELI5 how to wash ass.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's simple. While there is water running down it, stick your hand up under there and scrub it out. Or use a cloth and some soap. You're not gonna get anything dirty, you're in the shower.
ButterflywithWings ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:20:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Body wash a go, shampoo a no?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Get up in there.
Max_Thunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You ALWAYS gotta follow the showering priorities:
1. Genitalia
2. Ass.
3. Hair
4. Genitalia again
5. Armpits.
6. Rest of body
Seriously, most of the body doesn't ever smell. Have you ever smelled your torso (excluding under-tits for the ladies; they can be treated like armpits) or your forearms and though it smelled bad? Showering is mostly for 1 thru 5 on the above-list.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, the best part of the shower is cleaning your ass and genitals as well as armpits and getting the hair product out of my hair. I seriously can't sleep well at night if I don't shower before bed.
Wu-TangClam ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:59:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, don't just rub the soap on it. Get a rough wash cloth like they use at hospitals (mine are stolen from hospitals) and scrub your ass with deodorant soap or some Summers Eve wash, which is phenomenal stuff for cutting the waxiness of ones junk and butt, and also removing sex stuff. "Stuff" was the least gross, most complete word I could think of.
redditor1983 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:50:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At my last workplace this topic somehow came up (it was a retail job that had an extremely laid back atmosphere).
As it turns out, this is a thing... lots of people, apparently, don't directly wash their ass. They think that shower water running down their ass is sufficient.
One guy, when pressed further regarding his thoughts on this subject, said that he doesn't wash his ass because it's dirty and he doesn't want to touch it with his hand (because "that would be gross").
So this guy has a part his own body that is so gross that he won't touch it... which is why he won't clean it...
notrealmate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it's a never ending cycle. Poor guy is stuck in an infinite loop.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:29:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wash my ass with water after I use the bathroom but I still smell like literally shit. And don't tell me I don't have a shower often enough I smell like shit right after I have a shower! How does that even happen?! I also know people who bathe less often than me, and they don't smell like shit. Anyone care to explain this mystery?
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:37:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two words: moist towelettes
Livinvicariously ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:08:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One word: bidet. Doesn't clog your damn pipes. Those flushable wipes are like flushing a plastic bag down the drain.
muddyrose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Game changers
Calvin_Hobbes11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
at work?
PrinceOfCups13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:14:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, actually I keep some in my backpack, ha ha. When it comes to my hygiene I'm a little...anal
sarge21 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:02:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you're just unlucky. Go see a doctor
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:11:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am too embarassed to see a doctor, I know they know a lot of things but I can't even talk to my parents about it. So if I build my confidence some day it's definitely the pest solution to talk to a doctor. Thanks for the advice.
sarge21 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:00:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you see a doctor you're going to look back and wonder why you were so embarrassed. Do yourself a favor and skip the waiting.
ajonstage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google "butt itch" and you will find horror stories from tons of people who were similarly too embarrassed to talk to their doctor. Obviously it's a different issue but reading about what these people put up with for no good reason (in some cases for DECADES) might help change your mind. Doctors have seen it all, that's their job and patient confidentiality exists for a reason.
ViviWannabe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:19:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If there's one thing I've learned about doctors, it's that you shouldn't be embarrassed to talk to them about anything. They've seen and heard worse, I promise. The last time I was embarrassed to talk to a doctor was to ask my obstetrician almost 11 years ago if it was safe to use a vibrator while pregnant. I felt silly about it after.
In case you're wondering, yes it's safe to use a vibrator while pregnant.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:52:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the baby might cum prematurely!
m205 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:28:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dude
jordbus_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:41:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wipe your ass?
CelticUnited ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dr Bronner's Pure Castile Liquid Soap in scented baby mild. You need to soap that a hotspot up. Use the Dr Bronner's to wash and get a washcloth system that allows you to change the cloth out daily. More laundry but cleaner parts. Also, do you have hemorrhoids or another medical issue? Is so, some dietary changes or medicine mag help.
http://www.earthturns.com/dr-bronners-castile-liquid-soap-unscented-baby-mild?gclid=COWDh5Kik8oCFQseHwodltELVw
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't grab a hold of the product you linked since I don't live in the USA, and no I don't have a medical condition. At least, I am not diagnosed with one up until now. Thanks for the advice.
CelticUnited ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basic mild Castile soap is available in many spots - or Ivory or baby shampoo. No need for the Dr Beonner brand!!
MarkThePierate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the love of god never get Dr.bronners in your eyes or even mouth, burns like fucking napalm.
CelticUnited ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The baby mild is totally...mild. No burning, no additives. Just Castile soap. It is a-ok for babies! Other kinda are kind of strong - peppermint, rose and lavender can burn. (I'm not suggesting you try this - please god don't - but I bet you could drink small portions of the baby mild. I wouldn't burn, but I'm sure it would mess you up some other way!)
MarkThePierate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bubblefarts
hosieryadvocate ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:47:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll go against the flow here, and suggest that it is your washing technique. You should still see a doctor, though
I noticed a problem for me, when I found that I still lightly stunk after a shower.
I started washing it 3-4 times in 1 showering. The same goes for my face, ears, and hair. My legs get 2 washes, and my feet get 1 or 2. I have very oily skin.
Here are some instructions on how to get literally squeaky clean.
Rinse your hair.
Lightly wash your hair and face and ears; just enough to get the dust out. Don't rub too hard. You don't want to rub the filth into your skin. Rinse
Lightly wash your genitals and bum. You don't want to rub the filth into the skin. Rinse.
Wash your hair and face and ears with more soap. If you are using bar soap, then try to get a lather going by rubbing for a few moments. Rinse.
Wash your genitals and bum in the same way as step 4. Rinse.
Wash your hair and face and ears, heavily. You want to add a lot of soap, but not waste it. You want to get a good lather. You should be able to move your fingers through your hair and over your skin easily before you rinse. You want to rub that soap in, and maybe even scratch your skin to push it in as far as possible. Rinse thoroughly, but scratching and rubbing the skin aggressively. Once you have rinsed it all off, you should have a slightly difficult time running your fingers through, in the same way that you would have difficulty running your fingers over plastic cling wrap.
Wash your crotch and bum in the same manner as step 6. Rinse in the same manner.
Washing your body is not a good time to save time. Spend 30-60 minutes. Keep the room warm, and turn off the water, when not in use.
You can tell how clean you are by how squeaky your skin is, and how easy it is to run your fingers through your hair. Greasy hair is lubricated, but it also slows you down. You can also tell by how clean your towel is. Is it brown after a week?
Also, I find that clean skin feels more sensitive from the skin's perspective in the sense that it feels more natural, but filthy skin feels more sensitive from the skin's perspective in the sense that it feels like I'm rubbing something in.
Also, I use certain parts of my clean underwear to dry my genitals and bum. I use parts of the underwear that will dry quickly. I use the upper part of socks to dry my feet. I use these items, so that as I use them the normal way, I end up bringing in fresh cloth to dry myself. It keeps things moving, instead of using a stagnant towel.
Mephisto_Fred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... Drying with Underwear and Socks? Towel is brown after a week?? THERE'S your problem! If you have oily skin, or find you lightly stink often, wear clothes once before washing them. And a towel might be good for 2 showers between it being washed, but if you're discolouring it, I'd wash it after every use. I used to have a friend with an odour problem, we found nothing would work until we went into his bedroom & saw his bed sheets. It was only slightly discoloured and he thought nothing wrong of it, but he couldn't perceive the stink coming from his sheets and pillow that he was putting back on himself every night. TL:DR - If there's any fabric that touched your body for extended periods, wash the fabric, or it will stinkify you.
hosieryadvocate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just exaggerating. RELAX.
That being said, thanks for the advice.
hosieryadvocate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:24 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the brown fabric was a while ago. I don't have a problem, now. Also, the suggestion was for him to deal with his fabric.
I was in a bit of a rush this morning, so I didn't have a chance to be kinder in my response. Please don't take it the wrong way.
Mark7A ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And smile confidently
Grammor___Natsee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THIS. Take a detachable, multiple-mode shower head and direct the fucking flow into your ass. I don't care if you're "not gay" or think you shouldn't clean a place where literal shit leaves your body, do it. When I realised this I smelled a lot better and people actually approached me instead of avoiding me.
WhosAfraidOf_138 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... People need to be reminded of this..?
PurpleMTL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do. Trust me. I'm doing God's work here.
momothemaori ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I nearly choaked on my food haha.
I_CANT_WASH_MY_ASS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got all paranoid when I saw this mentioned on Reddit so I started doing it. I mean, I soap my buttocks and a bit inside my crack when I shower but I had never thought you were supposed to take soap and literally wash your anus. Have I stunk like ass my entire life?
So I did that for a while, and after a month I was having a terrible time with my asshole. It itched all the time, it was painful to wipe, and I started seeing blood on the TP. Then one day I had a horrific, sharp pain there while sitting down on the toilet.
Long story short, the soap was drying out the skin around my asshole, and after awhile it got so dry the skin itself split open and I had a big crack in the skin radiating from the center of my anus outward, about an inch long. It's called an "anal fissure," look it up on Google image search.
PurpleMTL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not googling that, but keep in mind that rinsing properly is just as important as soaping and scrubbing. Damn amateurs. Also, you win the appropriate username award.
I_CANT_WASH_MY_ASS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm not a total dummy, I did rinse. But I still dispute that literally washing your anus with soap is something a person needs to do. Hot water's more than enough to remove any "debris" from there. And it's not like you're
notgoing to go for days without taking a crap, it's going to get dirty again anyway.Taylorenokson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not talking about your whole ass...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was my first thought. Redd Foxx was the best.
master_payne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You tell em, Charlie Murphy!
rabidassbaboon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always said that a clean asshole is the foundation of a good day.
romulusnr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey baby, wanna see how clean my ass is?
slap
Dirty_Old_Town ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
escalat0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP should've really tagged this as [Serious]...
PurpleMTL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I'm serious. You would be surprised by the number of buttsweaters in this country. It's very bad. Wash that shit.
skittles15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Freshen up the dog's water.
fightzero01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/civdis24
BITCRUSHERRRR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or else you'll be funKAAAAYYY
MustachedGambit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit don't change until you get up and wash your ass
Wiki_pedo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't I just wear pants instead?
PurpleMTL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you'll get them dirty from the inside
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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PurpleMTL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't live without them. How can someone just smear shit all over their ass with paper without washing it? Beats me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This chick put her finger in my ass the other night. All I could think about was how gross it was down there...at 6 am...after a night of drinking.
PurpleMTL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did she do once she took it out? Wipe the bed sheets? Wipe it on you? Put it in her mouth?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I HAVE NO IDEA
I could have had a shitstain on my back or whatever all day New Year's Day.
I guess we'll never know...
kingofcarrotflowers1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you must you betta...
LateralThinkerer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Redd Foxx did a whole routine on it - too bad it's been forgotten. NSFW - Bad Words
Calvin0433 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well found the reason why I haven't had my salad tossed recently.
vintsneedsmints ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you must...
Shanack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soap may not help in all cases of swamp-ass. A bit of shampoo goes a long way if you are a bit hairy. Failing that, 1 part baking soda, 1 part water, about two joints of your index fingers worth. Apply directly before shower and rinse it out at the end (and wipe once out of the shower). Your grundle will smell great for days.
aredditgroupthinker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And for all the women who smoke, wash your clothes. You stink.
kolacomfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bought one of those attachable bidets from my toilet. Makes your ass so clean you could eat off it.
Eltotsira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do... do people not do this?
PurpleMTL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised. This one comment pointed out a girl who hasn't washed her in ~20 years.
Eltotsira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is.... so insanely fowl
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
very relevant: May I present Red Fox on the matter
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pro tip to judge ass-freshness: After you think it's clean, use a blow dryer to blow up warm air from your ass into your nostrils.
I have not tried Listerine yet.
ThaloveTrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shit don't change till you do
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If ya must
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently went down on a girl who apparently does not clean herself downstairs. At one point I nearly threw up on her, I actually gagged. I can't imagine how you could let your body get to that point. It was expected that we were going to hook up that night, so it's not like she was caught off guard.
PurpleMTL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The smell usually catches on before I put my face down there. If it's bad I stay the fuck away.
Ijustsaidthat2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know there are some people who don't ever actually wash their ass. Well I saw that on Reddit, so it must be true.
soxy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you must.
A_huge_waffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How exactly do you wash your ass without feeling like a dragon is coming out your anus?
sineofthetimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Redd Foxx?
PurpleMTL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually had no clue who that was until several people linked it
BitJuNkiE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or else you'll be FUNKAAAAAAY!
liberalhindu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or use a wet wipe.
King_Ryan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"You don't got to wash yo whole ass, you just got to wash yo ass...hole" -Redd Foxx
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shave your ass
srcarruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Armpits, asshole, crotch and teeth
YellowPudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wash my ass like a man!
sagiwaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you must
antonio106 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God, you sound like my girlfriend. And mom. And co-workers. And pastor. And cat.
rodrigo_thorson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Redd Foxx said it best: https://youtu.be/uldt6Y-CE3s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a specific way to?
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And your pits and your feet.
DubPwNz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is more disgusting than shit smell when trying to do doggystyle.
rrealnigga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe how common it's here in Europe for people to walk around with shit in their asses.
They only use dry paper and that's it... And they dare call me a weirdo for washing my ass with water.
Apparently it's disgusting to wash my ass with my hand then wash my hands with soap, but not disgusting to have shit around your asshole and go about your day like that.
It really fucks me up...
KaiserApe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's important to practice good hygiene, at least if you wanna run wit my team
YeahNoYeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If ya must
https://youtu.be/2uceKqK7xYs
[deleted] ยท 3912 points ยท Posted at 15:39:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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flclreddit ยท 2679 points ยท Posted at 18:59:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This is how addictions get started. You begin with sniffing tiny bit of rotting teeth morsels, then you start doing whole lines of them. Pretty soon, you're a hobo on the streets with the best teeth in town.
EDIT: Honestly I don't think this gold should be mine, the parent comment inspired mine. swaggatracin is the real MVP here, not me. Nevertheless thank you.
ErickHatesYou ยท 381 points ยท Posted at 22:09:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey man, can you spare a dollar? I really need to buy some dental floss. Come on man! Just one pack!"
chubbyurma ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 23:14:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Please man, I just ate a granola bar. It's all stuck in my teeth"
Mr_Abe_Froman ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:25:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I ate popcorn last night! I can still feel it. I don't think I got it all!"
droidonomy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:43:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I don't give money to beggars. I know they're just going to spend it on floss.
Xiosphere ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:30:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're joking obviously but homeless people love floss. Even if they don't give a shit about dental hygiene it makes fantastic sewing thread.
Source: am homeless, sew all my clothes with floss and am very disappointed those care packages old ladies give us always include toothbrushes and baby wipes but never any damn floss.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL in New York a pack of floss will run yah $20
Firewolf420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Writes on dollar bill: "NOT TO BE USED FOR DENTAL HYGEINE". here ya go son
DDbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guys got anymore of that floss?
TheUnpunctualWizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Movin' to Montana soon. Gonna be a dental floss tycoon." - Frank Zappa
yonsickles22 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:34:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
r/nocontext
little-scarlet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:38:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I wonder how I could be addicted to Reddit ... and then someone says something so weird and disturbing and hilarious like this. Thanks for feeding the addiction.
flclreddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:36:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My pleasure! Truly!
__FilthyFingers__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flossing. Not even once.
Lancer506 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best teeth in the game
dustyoldbones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's so bad I have to smell it.
Dr_Dumbassntitties ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funniest shit i've read all day
NKHdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok Cricket, the it easy
BinaryWinter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be talking about Pearly Joe! He hangs out around 54th Street. Brightest grin this side of the Mississippi. He does a mean Charleston also.
frikk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a filling get royally screwed up by the dentist when it was put in. It basically didnt set properly, so much so that I could "floss down" but not "floss up" without the floss getting caught and threatening to rip out the filling. I had to get special "glide" floss so that I could "floss down" and then "pull" the floss out from the side, without it fraying. I could pull entire pearls of food out, and it was immensely gratifying. I kept thinking that if flossing was this productive every time, it could get addicting!
As it turned out, I ended put off getting it fixed for 6 months, and it created the most awesome flossing habit. If I went 12 hours without flossing, I could store about 3 grains of rice worth of food between my two molars. I was a flossing machine. Still am (it's been fixed for about 2 months now).
When I finally got it fixed I told the dentist she should do that all the time so that people are forced to get into the habit. I don't think she found the anecdote as enlightening as I did.
hudshmote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
sweatyspaghetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a Seinfeld episode.
mcwerf ยท 1506 points ยท Posted at 17:45:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's also an added benefit of keeping your teeth past the age of 50.
Treats ยท 1248 points ยท Posted at 18:38:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to floss all your teeth, just the ones you want to keep.
ReraldDimple ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:45:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I exclusively floss my molars.
sergiomancpt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ron Swanson?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:03:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now we're talking.
Xytrius ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:41:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you don't floss all of the teeth.
Chris266 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:31:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing I got old chomper here!
TitanicIsSyncing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a painting in my bathroom with this saying :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ok, step-father.
(step-dad is a dentist. also an alcoholic.)
eSanches ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now i can be a squirrel.
traffick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Serious LPT right here.
OmnipresentTexas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friends uncle told me "only brush the teeth you want to keep" same concept as yours
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a cavity... on a wisdom tooth!
Haha! expendable.
I'm sure there is some bad news.
Phillije ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need a parachute to skydive, only to skydive twice.
MarkissC_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:54:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like my mother
motonaut ยท 550 points ยท Posted at 18:45:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are seriously compromising my GILF gumjob game right now.
JDMcWombat ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 19:25:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, you mean the ol' no denture adventure?
Kev-Mo88 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:34:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that no teeth relief?
TheWizardGrandolph ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:01:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yes, the slip n' slide wild ride?
Cottagecheesecurls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The toothless wet goodness?
Kev-Mo88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:19 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
vibrations are where its at with the gum n' hum.
aetherbird ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:54:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
TheGraveHammer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaand thats enough of this thread.
RestrictedHook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
largestick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:30 on January 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a sentence
Dany_Heatley05 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:51:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, fuck it. If I can get a brand spankin new set of pearly whites when I'm 50 I'm doin it. With or without my real teeth
EmperorCorbyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just do like de niro and get a brand new set of teeth whenever I feel like.
SkullShapedCeiling ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:31:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm 30 and i wear dentures. listen to this guy.
charlesfish69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I'm working on my summer teeth. Summer there, some aren't.
FuffyKitty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, speaking of, do you know what keeps me flossing? When my dad told me that yes, he flosses, and I quote "when the line between my teeth disappears". When I'm done holding back a dry-heave thinking of that, I'm sure to keep up on daily flossing.
theenigma31680 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I never flossed. But I also had other issues due to previous damage.
I'm sitting here in pain after having 13 of my top teeth pulled at once. This morning.
btveron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Insurance won't cover gorgeous fake teeth because it's cosmetic, so I'm waiting for my teeth to fall out.
Psych555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like 30.
the_nidificator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eh, it's not all it's cracked up to be.
ManlyMrManlyMan ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not rotting food. It's biofilm. Communities of bacteria who adhere to your teeth. The smell is mainly their waste.
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:55:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ManlyMrManlyMan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:49:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. It's even more disgusting.
TroyTheDestroyer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That glorious smell is their waste?!
alfaleets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:24 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No wonder it literally smells like shit.
[deleted] ยท 580 points ยท Posted at 17:49:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, people that don't floss have no idea of the shit in between their teeth. I can just imagine someone who hasn't flossed in years flossing for the first time and seeing the crap on the string and smelling how bad it is. Disgusting.
followmarko ยท 808 points ยท Posted at 18:52:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, BLOODBATH.
cyrusm ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 20:46:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wife is a dental hygienist. She can confirm. People who don't floss bleed like stuck pigs when she's cleaning their teeth, and they don't even notice.
She also has people who say "oh, my gums just bleed" like it's nothing to worry about. If you washed your hands and they started bleeding, you'd probably take notice! If you floss and brush daily, your gums won't bleed a drop.
ThachWeave ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 23:07:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As one of those people: we absolutely do notice, it feels like you're running a knife blade between our teeth.
cyrusm ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:20:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because they literally are running a knife blade between your gums and your teeth. It's the only way to cut that rock hard crap off.
atsu333 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:25:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I notice.
kevinlee22 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:21:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto.... I can taste it.... It's also brutal when rinsing and spitting. It's like dumping a bucket of red paint.
Gramage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Swallow it all and you can feel sick!
nervousnedflanders ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:03:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still bleed a little but not as much as I used to before I started flossing daily.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:29:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:43:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's your gums being sensitive due to all the shit between your teeth, without all that shit there shouldn't be any bleeding.
supersoupcan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:52:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think its because unclean gums require higher blood-flow in order to fight off potential infection
muhgenetiks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It hurts because the food particles were embedded deep between your teeth and your gums healed around it and became attached. When you remove the food particles you are ripping them from your gums so you bleed. Yes it is painful but in the long run it is good for you. Would you rather have disgusting old food on your gums? Eventually you won't bleed much if at all. But the first week or two will be sore every time you do it.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:57:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should not just jam it down you have to slide the floss back and forth while working it down at the same time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:44 on January 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, people think just jamming a piece of string between your teeth is flossing?
MundaneFacts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you floss regularly, it will get easier. I got some of those disposable flossing picks and I've learned to floss everyday.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:15:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MundaneFacts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean that you will learn not to go so hard.
jasontredecim ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:57:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I floss and brush twice a day (first thing in the morning, last thing before bed) and my gums bleed almost constantly. I wake up in the morning and the first thing I have to do, every morning, is rinse the blood out.
I don't suppose your wife has any tips/ideas that could maybe help me?
ramblingnonsense ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:30:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ask your dentist if you have gingivitis.
SakuranboTomato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you breathe through your mouth when you sleep? My dentist told me that can be one reason why healthy gums can keep bleeding. (It's a problem for me too)
Do you brush your gums as well as your teeth? And have you tried using a softer toothbrush?
CohibaVancouver ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:10:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a multivitamin every day for a few months and see if it clears up. You might have a vitamin deficiency. Not talking crazy supplements here, just pick up a bottle of vitamins at the supermarket.
MundaneFacts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Talk to your dentist.
kelkashoze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know commented that they always had bleeding gums. They started brushing harder thinking they weren't doing enough. Turns out they had periodontitis and it wasn't picked up for ages. Now they have erosion in their mouth and their gums are pushed back from overbrushing. Teeth need to be replace but their isn't enough of a foundation in their jaw without major surgery.
If you're worried talk to your dentist - periodontitis can be seen on the xray. Don't ignore issues in your mouth
StdSam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just keep at it, eventually your gums will be stronger and healthier and the bleeding will stop.
IanJL1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:39:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really scared that if I run a piece of dental floss on the gums between my teeth they will slice open, like getting a papercut on the skin between my fingers. Is this fear rational? Edit: Like in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71-5CM339o
TheAmishChicken ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No its not rational, its string, not some sick razor wire assassin stuff
IanJL1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it looks like wire
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cyrusm ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:12:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Actually, the real truth behind the matter is that we eat an inverse metric shitload more sugar than our ancestors did, which leads to crazy bacteria buildup and requires more rigorous dental hygiene. If you eat a diet of nothing more than non-processed meat and vegetables, you'll have a healthier mouth. Fun anecdote: My wife actually had a vegan patient recently who had never brushed her teeth, and only chewed on sticks to keep them clean. Apparently it was the healthiest, cleanest, mouth she had ever seen in her career.
Sandmaster14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of it is our diet now a days. So many acidic things.
MundaneFacts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And brushing your teeth after you eat acidic things causes damage.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How long does it take for the bleeding to stop? I just started flossing a couple of weeks ago and parts of my teeth still continue to bleed.
CherryAmesAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how long you've gone without flossing for, I think. If you're still (regularly) bleeding in another month, talk to your dentist.
johndoe1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is flossing and scaling one and the same thing? I go to a dentist once a year and get scaling done.. does that give same benefits as flossing?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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johndoe1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it does he same thing as flossing for tooths?
Azryhael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Flossing goes between your teeth, but scaling covers the other surfaces. Both are important.
cyrusm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you floss regularly, you shouldn't have to go in for a scaling every year before too long. What a scaling is is when you have pockets so deep that they have to numb you up to get down to shovel all of the crap out. This is to get rid of calculus, which is the hard crap that forms from the stuff flossing and brushing gets rid of.
derefr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still bleed a ton. Then again, I take a few drugs that can cause that.
BolognaTony ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:46:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great band.
sickoftheshit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:10:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish Mikael was still metal. And after seeing them live, I can say that that guy really needs to take some advice from this comment in this thread.
Laurasaur28 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:35:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flossed for the first time in a few weeks last night. So bloody.
esoteric_surgeon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:03:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good band \m/
jmt970 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:34:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bleed like a stuck pig if I don't floss for a few days
jesterab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had one desire since I was born. To see my gums ripped and torn.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had one desire since I was born
To see my body ripped and torn
To see my flesh devoured before my eyes
I'm here for you, I volunteer as a human sacrifice
followmarko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a poem about gums
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a poem about being
EATEN
My one desire, my only wish is to be-
EATEN...
The longer I live the more I'm dying to feel the pain
EATEN...
I would do anything to be-
EATEN...
My one desire, my only wish is to be-
EATEN...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:23:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:44:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If there's blood it means you have awful plaque build up and have gingivitis and need to floss more.
[deleted] ยท 553 points ยท Posted at 18:52:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dental hygienist here. People like that get what's known as calculus or tartar build up. All that crap between their teeth eventually hardens into a stone which can only be removed by dental instruments. If that calculus sits there long enough it starts to eat away at their gums, periodontal ligaments and bone causing tooth loss.
SemSevFor ยท 1284 points ยท Posted at 19:14:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys the advanced math is fighting back. The derivatives are attacking our gums!!!
CaLaHa717 ยท 653 points ยท Posted at 21:01:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you could say flossing is integral to our health.
Kilomeader ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:14:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully you wont get a concavity
Shit_Apple ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:05:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get out.
dangermousejnr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can no longer differentiate between tooth and tartar!
anrose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like you make me happy.
hobbycollector ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:15:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have the stones to floss, people.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:30:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if that just gets to be too much, call L'Hopitals.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:01:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is halfway through AB
WHAT DO THE SECOND TWO THINGS MEAN?!?!
Fadman_Loki ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am in same situation, am equally confused.
ggadget6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also would love to know.
Mistercheif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
L'Hopitals rule is a way for determining the limit of a function where the numerator and denominator both approach 0, by taking the limits of the derivatives of the numerator and denominator. (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LHospitalsRule.html)
You won't need that until the horror that is BC and limits.
And the stones pun is going back to the dental meaning for calculus, which can also be called a stone.
jesuskater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:40:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im divided on this
TheWizardGrandolph ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:03:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit. I have reached my limit with these calculus puns.
phoenix2448 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that the problem will only get exponentially worse
Jebbediahh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh you
TurquoiseLuck ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude that comment was so derivative.
TheSeaOfThySoul ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:52:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, this kind of joke would be a lot funnier if it was a misspelling. Unfortunately, calculus relating to dentistry is spelled the same way as mathematical calculus.
The English language is just no fun sometimes.
kstonge11 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:22:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We got this, trig subs man your stations!
factoid_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:08:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First our mortgages, now our gums. These derivatives are truly insidious and must be stopped
Charliek4 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:16:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I stand against gum control
Recklesslettuce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure "culus" means butt in Latin and "cal" means lime. CALCULUS = A LIMEY BOTTY.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want t make this joke next time i go to the dentist, but ususally once i see the hygienists i become a blubbering floor.
hybridthm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:56:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calculus can lead to gingivitis, which makes you unpopular in school.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our gums are Integral to the defense of our teeth!
folderol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a limit to how much they can take.
Fred-Bruno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Then I guess I'd better crunch the numbers!"
Psych555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Divide and conquer!!!
SmacksDaBooty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to my arithmetic, no they're not.
NotRoryWilliams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it leads to caries. Very confusing to laypeople.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:43:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dear dental hygienist,
My teeth are close together and it involves a lot of force to get the floss between my teeth and then it gets "stuck" when I try to pull it back out and I panic really bad because I'm terrified of pulling out my teeth or something.
What can I do to still clean out the yucky?
roberta_sparrow ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:20:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get the Glide floss.
My teeth are the same way. Seriously. Glide changed my life.
Nabber86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. My teeth are so close that even Glide floss gets stuck sometimes, but it is the only thing that works.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:15:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try placing the floss at the space and then gently sawing it back and forth as you move the floss down in between the teeth and using the same action to bring it back out. You should never force the floss straight down in between the teeth as you can traumatized the gums (this is why we don't recommend those little disposable floss sticks). Once you've gently sawed the floss down in between, wrap it around the tooth and continue the sawing motion downwards until you get the floss below the gum line. Then wrap it around the adjacent tooth and do the same thing. This video helps give a better visual.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:17:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah so that part at like 1:17 where she just pulls it out? That doesn't happen for me. I go to pull it out and it just gets stuck at the end of my teeth and I can't get it out and start to pull and panic.
Jamon_Iberico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too man... Me too.
rafyy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:32:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You dont want to wait as long as THIS GUY
justjcarr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:41:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BRB, scheduling a dentist appointment
TheFreshestMove ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:43:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
seriously man. fuck me.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked on patients like that before. It's oddly satisfying removing all that stuff.
___senorchuletas___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was that stuff?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what soft plaque turns into when you don't brush it off and leave it to sit there. It hardens into what's called calculus or tartar. Once it gets to this point it can only be removed by dental instruments. Everyone gets some degree of calculus build up which is why it is necessary to get regular cleanings at your dentist. This person's case is quite serious though.
18scsc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew that story before I even clicked it. I always use that when people say they hate dentists
Baddie_Joka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, I'm saving this for my future kids for whenever they say they don't want to go to the dentist
TheVentiLebowski ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:44:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I didn't floss in college and I didn't get calculus.ยฐ Your math doesn't work out.
ยฐHooray for summer school, amirite?
TeacupPiglet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:01:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My bf just went to the dentist for the first time since he was a kid(after much badgering). He said the hygienist was sucking chunks of that shit off his tongue after she scraped it off. Blegh. Also his breath is 100% better and his teeth are whiter. He's flossing after every meal now like a champ and his gums are already growing back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Help soothe my mind. I haven't been to the dentists in three or four years (ironically because I thought I'd always been so clever at keeping my teeth clean and healthy that I wouldn't need regular checkups), and I just recently started noticing this shit building up on the back of my lower teeth. It hasn't completely covered my teeth, but it's definitely starting to fill up the cracks. Am I screwed? Did your bfs gums, bones and teeth recover completely?
TeacupPiglet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:38 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit I just saw this, my bad. He's actually doing great and his case was moderate to severe. You can already see his gums have begun repairing themselves.
JohnnyApathy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're only screwed if you don't go. The longer you wait the worse it'll get. Your mouth heals extremely fast, your teeth and gums will be fine.
Sir_Tibbles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that what they're checking for when they start scraping around there?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:37:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they're scraping it means they found it and are scraping it off. Long and painful dental appointments can be averted by flossing. They look at your teeth, see no buildup, maybe give you a fluoride rinse or take an x-ray and you're done.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:48:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is what they are scraping off, yes. It's common for most people to have some calculus build up which is why it's good to visit the dentist for regular visits to have it removed.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:05:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Build up on lingual retainers is super common. I have one myself and no matter how much I try to brush or floss I always have something there when I go for a cleaning. Don't beat yourself up about it just make sure to keep up with regular visits to the dentists to have that area cleaned.
flyawayjay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(I'm not /u/DomashnaRakija)
I also have a bottom bar and try to floss there as much as I can. They scrape a little more back there than they do on my other teeth, but I've noticed the more effort I put into cleaning that area, the less they scrape. It's just really hard and annoying to floss there.
Ob1kNoBee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get an electric toothbrush. I'm in the same situation and it changed my life. Don't have to worry about flossing that area because it stays very clean now for the most part. I go for a dental cleaning every 4 months too, so that helps a lot too.
twersx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally, but dentists can see signs of tartar without having to scrape. When I had tartar removed it was basically with a thin metal rod, bent slightly at the end and it was just rough scraping/picking to get it off.
Moffee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:16:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh fuck
regalrecaller ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:07:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a way to get rid of tartar other than going in for a cleanup?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:20:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No there aren't any tools available to the general public that remove tartar. You need to use hand scalers or an ultrasonic scaler.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:11:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes actually they are very good. We tend to recommend them to people with limited dexterity who can't floss normally or people who just hate regular flossing. The important thing about flossing is not only removing the stuff stuck between your gums but also stimulating the gums which promotes blood flow and keeps the gums healthy.
Bladecutter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah shit...
thamag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you recommend for people with braces?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush diligently and use a floss threader to floss your teeth. If you have lingual retainers (those bars they glue to the back of your teeth after you're finished with braces) use a proxy brush to clean between teeth and stimulate the gums in that area. Ask your dentist or orthodontist for these things if they haven't already provided them. They'll give you free samples.
thamag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I only have the lingual retainers, I wonder when I'm supposed to have them taken off since I just turned 19 and got my braces off 5+ years ago, since that would obviously make it all a lot easier
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We actually recommend you never take them off as your teeth continue to shift as you age and will go crooked again. I had my braces taken off at 17 and I'm 30 now and still have my lingual retainers. You just have to make sure to brush and floss those areas thoroughly as they're a common spot for plaque and calculus build up.
thamag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mh.. that kinda sucks, but allright. Thanks!
sugarpockets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half of my top permanent retainer is broken. Has been for a half a year. Will movement still occur even though half of the retainer is still there?
butter_rum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've had my lingual retainer in for some 10 years now. I've thought about asking to have it removed as I'm a little worried about my gums receding on the teeth with it. Buuut my husband never had one put in and now his teeth are all wonky again and he gets worse buildup because of the teeth overlapping weird.
InvertedLogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fwiw when mine broke for the 15th time the dentist I went to said he really doesn't like them since they breed tooth decay and that if I wear my retainer each night I should be fine. It's a pretty nice feeling having the back of your teeth slick after 5 years.
thamag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually dont have a night retainer, maybe i should
AptCasaNova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, gum recession. Once your gums recede, they don't grow back. I can attest to this.
Hornborg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that, but bacteria associated with gingivitis and parodontitis have been found to be a causing factor in many heart conditions and strokes. Shit gets to your blood stream from your mouth and make their way to the heart or to the brain, causing complications. They can also build up growths over joint prosthesis, leading to some pretty nasty infections. Floss, yo.
Madafaka_Jones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actual question: is it still that bad if you brush your teeth two or three times a day but never floss?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes because your tooth brush doesn't remove the stuff that gets stuck between the teeth and under the gums. I'll admit that I'm not the best when it comes to flossing but the way I got into the habit is by starting slow and doing it once a week, even that will make a difference. Then you just build up to doing it daily from there. A good way to get into the habit is to leave floss in an area that you frequently spend time in like on your coffee table so when you watch tv you can sit there and floss. Or at your desk at work or near your personal computer.
wwwiizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, and when you floss if you can taste an acidic, metallic taste coming from your gums, that's the acid that literally dissolves your bone. You might need a deep cleaning where the dentist scrapes deep between the gums and teeth to remove tartar.
BNLboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently got a sonicare toothbrush for Christmas. I really wanted one and my teeth feel so god damn clean every time I use it. Now the rest of my mouth doesn't feel as clean. I used to brush my gums all the way up and down my mouth and under my tongue and it felt great. The vibrations of the toothbrush feel way to weird to do that and the instructional videos on youtube don't mention the rest of my mouth. Now I just scrape my tongue, floss (like 3 times a week, not daily), and brush my teeth. The really minty fresh taste and feeling just isn't there anymore.
So am I doing it wrong or am I just normal for the first time ever? Also I'm noticing less tonsil stones but that could also be because I'm using a humidifier when I sleep now.
Please give me free advice and criticism on the internet
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Brushing your gums is actually not a good idea because that can cause gum recession and traumatize the tissues. Flossing is the best thing to do for your gums. Brushing the inner cheeks is good though. Scraping the tongue is also great for preventing bad breath.
mynameisspiderman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking KNEW calculus was bad for me!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love calculus removal videos
Cedricium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With your professional background, how healthy and comparable are products like Waterpik and other water flossers to regular string floss? Asking for a friend of course.
Nayr39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that might explain my deteriorating gums from the front of my bottom row of teeth(so now you can see teeth where gum usually is below your visible teeth). Probably doesn't help that I never floss, brush my teeth once a week and haven't gone to a dentist in 4 or 5 years.
gundamwfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you see this, because I'd appreciate some clarification:
I went for years without flossing regularly. I just hate the feeling and I hate making my gums bleed. Several months ago I bought a Waterpik Aquarius, and it's changed my life, I floss with it every day.
Is water flossing pointless? is it truly a replacement for old-fashioned string?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're gums were bleeding because you weren't flossing regularly in the first place. Aside from cleaning debris, flossing helps promote blood flow in the gums keeping them healthy. When you aren't stimulating the gums the blood stagnates around the gum line causing the red puffy appearance that we call gingivitis. When you go to floss after not flossing for a long time that blood sitting there gets released. Aside from all that waterpiks are really great and we tend to recommend them to people who either aren't able to floss because of limited dexterity or just hate flossing the traditional way. The water works to stimulate the gums the same way flossing does.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's inevitable. Some people brush and floss like crazy but we always find something that was missed which is why it's recommended that you go for regular cleanings.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm! I have to get surgery on my mouth because I was lazy and didn't floss and now one of my teeth might fall out!! Don't be me :'(
Reveredman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Thought I chipped a tooth eating a meal, felt a piece missing off my tooth. Turns out it was a piece of this calculus that chipped away. It built up over so many years that it felt like a part of my teeth. Dental assistant had to pull out the big guns to blast the rest of the crap away and expose my teeth.
Right now, try tonguing your rows of teeth. Try to find spaces in between your teeth especially the bottom row. Chances are some of you notice there's not as much space between you teeth as you remember. Please go see a dentist. Your 60 y/o gums will thank you.
boombotser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya I have that shit every time I go to the dentist, I'm pretty sure my dentist hates me
cornwallqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you tell me why when I floss it doesn't bleed, but every time I go for a cleaning it's like the elevator scene from the Shining? I'm 98% sure I'm flossing as deep as it can go.
BevansDesign ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:59:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They probably won't see it among all the red.
Slop_core ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:53:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was me about a year ago.
Can confirm there was a lot of crap on the string.
Can confirm it smelled horrendous.
Can confirm I now love flossing.
Laurasaur28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happy Cake Day!
Slop_core ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:04:26 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't even realize that was my Cake Day! Haha! Thanks!
eksyneet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:43:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i flossed for the first time in 22 years a few months ago (don't judge, in my country flossing isn't even a thing, i've never even heard about it, not even from a dentist, before i started interacting with Americans online) and it really wasn't that bad? it definitely didn't smell.
superkp ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:46:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose it could be that you are very used to it, or that americans/westerners have such a calorie-rich diet that even our oral bacteria are eating better.
We_Are_The_Romans ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:53:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why should the American dream be restricted to eukaryotes?
hosieryadvocate ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:09:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I think that it's because of the brushing technique.
Whenever I start flossing after an extended pause, the foul smells only come from a certain location [right upper side], but the other locations aren't too bad, relatively speaking. I even asked a dental hygienist [or was it a dentist?] about it. The person had no clue.
1 day, it dawned on me that I was not brushing well. I started brushing up and down on the side teeth, and sure enough, I could smell it even while the brush was still in my mouth.
It isn't just a casual up and down motion. Because my current bristles are aligned in a shape, it actually is important to move the brush slowly forward and slowly backward, while I brush up and down. This is true for the inside of the side, too.
I'm surprised that nobody seems to be talking about this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because everything hardened and got scraped off by the hygenist in a cleaning last time you went to the dentist
eksyneet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i've never gotten a teeth cleaning at the dentist. it's just not something dentists here routinely do.
Hara-Kiri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why we don't get told about flossing in the UK if our NHS covers the cleaning that flossing would prevent the need for? We have the most healthy teeth in the world so we must be doing something right.
hosieryadvocate ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:13:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes sense that flossing helps, but it also makes sense that there must be another influencing factor. Before people put effort into teeth cleaning, a lot of them still managed to keep their teeth. People need to remember that flossing is a very modern invention.
makerofshoes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:52:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My dad was in the navy (Vietnam era) and one of the dentists in there was so mad at his patient for not maintaining his teeth that he got a piece of bread and put all the gunk from flossing on it. Then he made the guy eat the bread. Yuck
thewisebadger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a person who used to hardly ever floss their teeth, it was pretty painful the first few times and I actually bled in between my gums. Not fun. But that's only if you don't floss regularly
thatgoat-guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, I don't know what shit between my teeth is, I have gaps between my teeth, and when I swish water it all comes out.
FormalChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I mean if you go to the dentist then every 6 months you're good...
camdoodlebop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I don't floss that often but when I do nothing is on the string? I feel like it's a waste of time when I can just brush behind my teeth
danceycat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a dentist, but I've heard that flossing still helps because it disrupts any bacteria and stimulates the gums. So I'd guess it would probably still be beneficial?
folderol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't really take it seriously until I had braces on. I started using brush picks all the time. Now I swear I can't eat without a pick because it drives me nuts having all that shit stuck in my mouth. Never even noticed before.
MCMXChris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't not do it now. Less/no bleeding.
No shit in between my teeth for bacteria to feed on.
Jordanjm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh so I never really flossed that often until like a month ago when I Google how to do it properly and I gave it a proper try. I was shocked and disgusted and I do it probably 2 or 3 times a day now. My breath is better and my teeth feel better.
EternalHipster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hearing this i think i'm flossing the wrog way, how should i do it?
larenardemaigre ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 19:15:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then masturbate.
pasta_police ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:14:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With floss.
puppykinghenrik ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:35:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't floss at your desk, you animal. Go to the bathroom, geez.
Vascilli ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:34:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tongue cleaners are also good for not smelling terrible.
haydiddy ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:11:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think that, it's definitely your teeth! Floss!
ShartingGoose ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 18:48:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget to masturbate
red-bot ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 18:53:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And don't forget to masturbate afterwards!
xXxhahahahaxXx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:34:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 stoned birds
CantMeltPodBayDoors ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
???
red-bot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:43:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's an ancient reddit joke. Haha. Here's the thread.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:41:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"It's an older meme, but it checks out."
leeeesahhh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:41:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree and try to floss regularly, but damn if it aint a bitch to try to floss on your bottom teeth when you have a permanent retainer on them :/ I feel like my top teeth are much healthier than the bottoms :(
bcgrm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a waterpik. Your gums will thank you.
leeeesahhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually just heard about these on a very recent reddit thread and am looking into it! I'm gonna save up to get one soon.
Halo-One ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or try the G-U-M Soft-Picks. They are pretty cheap and should work pretty well for you.
moounit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sole reason why I don't floss daily.
Pamela-Handerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use a product called superfloss. Walmart sells it (in Canada at least). It is floss with a stiff end that you can stick between your teeth, between the wire and your gums.
leeeesahhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't tried that particular brand but will look into it. The problem I have found with similar products is that the wire across the retainer on the back of the teeth is so low, and my teeth are so close together, it feels impossible to get something in there. My teeth are little :(
Pamela-Handerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine used to be really tight at the top, but after a few weeks it opened up and is now really easy to get the floss through. I think this due in part to my gums being healthier and no longer inflamed.
shigg1975 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:22:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, after smelling the floss once, i swore to never go long without flossing. So gross.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:45:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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count_scoopula ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
acidic_donkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Waterpik. They are amazing and clean your teeth better than brushing and flossing, or at least feels that way. Combine those with the waterpik and your teeth will feel professionally cleaned on the daily. I effectively stopped my periodontal disease and reduced all of my 5-6mm pockets to 3 and under.
thebritishbloke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As in a permanent retainer? Get interdental floss brushes, or you can shell out for a Sonicare Airfloss (On that note, holy hell every person ever needs to also upgrade to a Sonicare toothbrush. You've never experienced pleasure until you clean your teeth with one).
superkp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yup. just got an off-brand electric toothbrush, and I thought only dentists could make my teeth feel like that.
Also, my wife has a permanent retainer - she also uses those little floss-on-a-stick things. She says it works well.
thebritishbloke ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ew. Seriously, shell out the money for a Sonicare (even the cheaper ones will do). They're incomparable to other electric toothbrushes.
I tried the floss on a stick things, I can't seem to use them with my retainer. I can kinda use the pointy bit but it doesn't really work.
superkp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:30:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, the one i'm using isn't cheap - just not sonicare. It's philips, or samsung, or something. High quality, just not the original entrepreneurs in the space.
Also it's not floss held taut by a stick - it's floss mounted on the end of a really thin toothpick, so you can push it through and then move it back and forth/up and down , and then finish pulling it all the way through.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use an interdental brush instead, not floss on a stick. I have a wire and it works perfectly for getting the teeth there clean.
Pamela-Handerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use a product called superfloss. Walmart sells it (in Canada at least). It is floss with a stiff end that you can stick between your teeth, between the wire and your gums.
haydiddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:09:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's only awful if you've neglected your teeth for years. If you can't remember the last time you flossed, can't remember the last time you went to the dentist, and/or your gums bleed often, there's a very good chance your breath is kicking out some shit smell.
Like, if it was me, how can you put a price on your breath not smelling like shit? GET TO THE DENTIST!
I have issues as I smell these shit breathed people on the tube. No excuses. You can afford all the shit that rots your teeth so you can afford to look after your teeth too.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:43:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For all: Here is why you should beat off after flossing
british_sam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:26:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was in a showerthoughts post a while ago, saying how someone has probably masterbated more times than flossing, a joke went round saying people should masterbate after flossing to keep a 1:1 ratio
sheepoverfence ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:43:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it came from an askreddit post that asked what should you do everyday. Its in museumofreddit
Cromesett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I made a pledge that every time I wanted to give someone gold in 2016, I would make a pledge to Sanders. Thank you for your contribution to my desire to make a contribution.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be at the top... I also rinse my mouth with hydrogen peroxide (diluted of course). I've found this to be the best solution to having good breath.
shokalion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? You rinse your mouth with a type of bleach? Blimey no wonder I struggle to keep my teeth white.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, like this stuff... it's diluted to I think 3%? It will say it's for oral use on the bottle usually. It's also the ingredient in some mouthwash
shokalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:26 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah okay gotcha. Never seen it labelled on the shelf like that. I'll have a look next time I'm down the supermarket, thanks!
One_Punch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you think using mouthwash is an acceptable alternative?
grace_c ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:07:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dental student here. In a word, no.
Halitosis results from the products created by bacteria (usually between the teeth), namely acid and other shit. This is best removed by physically scraping it out.
Mouthwash doesn't remove the bacteria (aka plaque), it just washes over it due to how it attaches to your teeth. It'll temporarily make your mouth smell nice, until you swallow a few times or drink something.
TL;DR floss your damn teeth.
raitono ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is mouth wash good for anything?
grace_c ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a good additional method, but it shouldn't substitute flossing. Current literature says that adequate brushing and flossing means that mouthwash isn't necessary for good oral hygiene, but it doesn't hurt to add it to your routine either
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:29:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
After you smoke weed.
Edit: you know its true. Listerine Breath Strips? No nutritional value, less effort than chewing gum, and way too strong just to get fresh breath. Thst shit was made for stoners
Citizen01123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. The hydrochloric acid in it burns right through the first few layers of your tongue. Can't get any fresher than that!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:07:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dont forget the hydrogen peroxide ๐
FluffyPillowstone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere that 80% of bad breath comes from your tongue. T/F?
grace_c ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:18:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A dirty tongue certainly does contribute, but not 80%. Maybe 40-50%? I use a tongue scraper for that, it's inexpensive and very helpful to reduce bad breath!
AnthX ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can that dental hygenist respond again? Tongue scraper sounds like a scam.
darkmana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um...
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygienist? Do you mean dental student? If so, I am that OP, the same person who advocated a tongue scraper. Mine was $5 AUD from the pharmacy and holy crap the amount of white gunk I scraped off my tongue was ridiculous.
AnthX ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:16:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$5 isn't too bad if it works and you say it does. What about the ones on the tooth brushes? Do they work or are they just a ploy "feature"?
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well personally, if I am without a tongue scraper, I'll just use the normal side of my toothbrush. It's not as effective as a tongue scraper, but probably better than those tiny rubber points.
This dentist explains the tongue scraping stuff really well
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, the ones on the back of the brush are a gimmick, but the proper ones work. Good to know.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I can't get my other hand in my mouth. And my cheeks are in the way.
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try a floss wand. Not as effective as the dexterity from using your hands and free floss, but better than nothing.
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I should. This thread inspired me to go buy new tooth brushes too. What's the difference between an old toothbrush and a new but soft one?
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Depending on the number of teeth you have, you should change your toothbrush (or toothbrush head on a power toothbrush) every 1-3 months.
Unless you have sensitive teeth, don't buy a soft toothbrush. They're a marketing strategy to make you buy it, but are less effective at cleaning your teeth properly.
If it's within your price range, buy an oscillating-rotating power toothbrush. The low end ones are around $30 AUD and (in Australia) are available in some supermarkets. Studies show they're more effective at cleaning in between the teeth than manual toothbrushes, so they'll save you money in the long run if they prevent or delay extensive dental work.
Edit: source http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24073528
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What happens to the brush when it gets old? It frays and isn't as firm? (Like the soft brushes you mention.)
I saw some in Coles for around $30 to $40 yep! (Even a brand name too.) (And it's easier right, since you just move it around, don't have to go back and forth manually?)
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct, it loses its structural integrity and thus isn't as effective at removing the plaque.
I would say that yes it is easier, but watch a few YouTube videos about proper brushing technique to maximise the effect
AnthX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. Ta
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:13:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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carputt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then your problem can't be solved by a dentist. See an ENT and get your tonsils out.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:21:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or use an interdental brush (if you can get it between your teeth). Way better than flossing imo.
grace_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how much space there is between your teeth. Everyone's regime will be unique, so yes, it's really good to have options!
MoonMirari ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like asking if perfume is an alternative to soap. First you need to clean and then you worry about adding a good smell.
LuckyBucky21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately no. Another big part of flossing is rupturing food pockets that develop in your gums. They house a ton of bad breath causing bacteria.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:33:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats what actually got me to start flossing. I was always told it was to remove the food from between your teeth. Never really thought there was any food getting stuck there. When someone told me it was to disrupt the bacteria colonies that form between your teeth I started flossing immediately.
superkp ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:51:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exactly why I started.
It's not to take the bacteria out, otherwise why bother? those little shits are just going to multiply overnight, aren't they?
It's actually to remove the shield (aka biofilm) that the little shits have set up to protect themselves.
It helps to think of them as an alien species and you are destroying their force field to expose them to your more effective weapons.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of mouthwash (You still should floss), use a diluted mix of hydrogen peroxide. Floss, brush teeth, rinse with hydrogen peroxide.
u38cg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit has a real idea in its hive mind that flossing is made up and stupid.
I still can't get an answer for why hygienists and dentists do it, every one.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dentist recommended against it and suggested that I just use an interdental brush since that cleans way better. Not an option if there's no small gap between your teeth, but if there is then it removes way more than just flossing.
GiantDuarf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have never seen this in all my time here.
SmallChildArsonist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss in the shower.
You know how you're standing in that gloriously warm shower, and you need to get out, but you don't? You just stand there, wasting time.
Floss.
You get to stay in the warm shower, and you're there for a good reason. Best of both worlds.
Citizen01123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasting time, wasting water, wasting energy on the electric bill, possibly wasting gas on the gas bill, wasting money.... might as well floss.
SmallChildArsonist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least there's one positive on the list!
911isaconspiracy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was always told the mouth smell was from the tongue, so we need to brush the tongue.
Unless people have been lying to me then why do I need to floss if I'm thoroughly brushing my teeth and tongue?
girkabob ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:38:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's both. Bacteria builds up on both and it stinks in both places. In addition, the bacteria on your teeth will eventually start eroding your enamel and gums.
pillbuggery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because plaque will build up between your teeth, especially deep in the gumline. Mouthwash and brushing helps, but it's not going to do much to disrupt the bacterial film between your teeth. If you have pockets of bacteria between your teeth, it's going to have an impact on your whole mouth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I anyways wondered if there's really a difference between flossing and just using the pics
givemebackmybrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is. Flossing gets into the pocket between the gum and tooth to dig out food particles and bacteria. Picks can't get down as deep.
cheese_wizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to balance a little bit of mouthwash in my mouth WHILE I floss and really get the mouthwash in there. Mouth feels so clean, really has minimized any bleeding, and I want to think cuts down any bad breath. Also, BRUSH YOUR TONGUE!!!
honeyandvinegar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DO NOT FLOSS AT YOUR DESK.
THAT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE, THAT IS DISGUSTING.
hearsay_and_rumour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It me forever to get into the habit of flossing, but now I feel extra gross if I don't.
Meekrobite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. I was flossing last night (after not for a couple days) and I caught a whiff of what I took out. Disgusting smell for sure.
lillyrose2489 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smelling my used floss was what got me to finally start flossing regularly. It was horrifying. I still don't do it every single day but I do it a few times a week and it no longer hurts/bleeds when they do it at the dentist, so that's an added bonus!
mopizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have some of those plastic floss "picks" in my car and do it while driving. I know that they aren't as effective as regular floss, but its either use those or don't floss at all.
zeldaisaprude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cleaning your tongue is huge. A $2 tongue scraper will do absolute wonders to your breath.
ethanolin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started a thorough mouth cleaning regimen one week ago and it's insane how much cleaner my mouth feels.
YouSophisticat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can conifrm. I just started wearing Invisalign to straighten a few of my teeth and after each meal I have to brush and floss. Most people don't realize all of the gunk, food, and buildup that chills in your teeth after each meal. It's disgusting...
Only two more months of Invisalign and I will still floss after each meal.
Suivoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is good advice. But dont use a push pin... metal isnt good on your teeth.
am0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have those little floss picks I use at my desk. No one ever notices and I do it everyday after lunch.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It smells like tonsil stones. Damn that's fetid.
M_de_Fortgibu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I said this a sub earlier this week but-- for the love of god-- take care of your teeth. Once your mouth starts to go, so goes the rest of your body (ever meet anybody with fucked up gums/teeth that was a model of otherwise perfect health?). Plus it only takes one root canal to figure out that major oral surgery is something you really want to avoid at all costs.
I saw someone suggest that rinsing with warm salt water in the morning and at night is really good for oral health too.
Justice_Man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, carry breathmints for that after lunch or a coffee funk.
I've found being "fresh to death breath" guy is awfully attractive, as is helpful sharing.
DoserMcMoMo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My old boss would floss and clip his nails at his desk. Everyone hated that guy
TrullTull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In addition, try that coconut oil mouth rinse, tablespoon of coco oil swisher around your mouth for 20 mins a day, it is profound how much this improves dental health, and reduces halitosis.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i used to face a wall and would floss at my desk when my desk neighbor wasn't there, but only if there was something stuck in there (popcorn or something).. spot flossing, with a stick, not a full floss session.. I'm lazy.
But now I face the whole office. So, I floss in a stall in the bathroom.
I_AM_AVOIDING_WORK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: Never reddit at lunch. A seemingly light topic just made me lose my appetite.
kghyr8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite. A push pin can not get in between the contacts of your teeth like the floss does. Better to have some floss picks at your desk. More effective and more socially acceptable.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to start flossing but I legitimately need help. Like, I try to do it and just end up looking like an idiot with floss around his finger trying to fit his hand into his mouth
givemebackmybrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bad breath prevention is not the only reason why flossing is important, in fact it's just one benefit. Heck, lots of breath stank is coming from that white carpet towards the back of your tongue (scrape or brush it daily).
If you don't floss, that white gunk (bacterial colony) builds up and begins to erode the enamel due to acid created. After a while, that gunk hardens and becomes calculus (tartar) and can only be removed by a dentist by which point damage has been done and your teeth will appear pockmarked and separated.
leetee91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One gold TOOF!
SourCreamWater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just ordered a water flosser and I'm super excited to try it.
jaxxon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Redneck pickup line: "nice tooth"
karmatrain123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just smoke to make sure your mouth always smells like an ashtray
AtWorkAccount1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Askreddit thread a while ago about what you should do every day, comments turned into flossing, then masturbating
melaniedk12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also give teeth whitening a try. Having a nice smile is always attractive.
cool_hand_legolas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And hey, whiten your teeth while your at it.
$50 crest whitening packs (sold literally everywhere) do wonders and take less than 2 weeks.
txfoodie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful what you scrape your teeth with. Whether you realize it or not, Staph (that causes infection) is everywhere and it just needs an entrance into the bloodstream. My aunt nearly died when she picked her teeth with a paperclip and got a little too close to the gums causing her to bleed a tad, but enough for Staph to walk right in... Maybe stick to floss
slababateria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your teeth. Then floss. Then masturbate.
(https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2j60iy/what_should_you_do_every_single_day/)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A lot of people don't realize the tongue is like a sponge and don't brush it appropriately. Brushing one's tongue with a toothbrush is really not the way to go. There are tongue scrapers that are better suited for the task.
So many of my coworkers come into work in the mornings, and when they talk, I see a black stain on their tongue. It looks as if they just rimjobbed someone with an unclean bum. It's fucking disgusting to see, and once it's noticed, it's really hard to unsee it.
Hootbag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Daily flosser here. You can hear the hygienist's panties drop when she checks my gums. There's nothing that turns them on more than pocket depths of 1 to 3 mm.
peteypenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
when I brush my tongue or use mouthwash I get this layer of stuff on my tongue that doesn't seem to go away. I use a tongue scraper but it doesn't get rid of it very much, and the scraper also makes me gag. what do?
Midnight-Runner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, masturbated with floss
ColoniseMars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flossing sucks ass, learn to use a fucking toothbrush if you can get white shit out between your teeth after brushing. They have tiny hairs for a reason.
I really feel like electric tooth brushes are detrimental to teeth health because they can barely reach anything, feel like shit and neglect a lot of thinks like inbetween teeth.
Personally dont like flossing nor can i do it properly because my teeth are too tightly next to each other, giving me my stunning perfect smile, and its held in place by a permanent dental thingy (invisible unless you put your head in my face) which has to stay there forever for some reason.
the13bangbang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read a study that said after you floss the delicate gripping action of a small peiece of string transfers to muscle memory for when you masturbate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I floss and I still have bad breath lol. Deep throat the toothbrush and probably still would.
brucejennerleftovers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The reason why you floss is to disrupt the bacteria colonies.
unibrow4o9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't dig on flossing, get a Waterpik. There's always a debate somewhere on how it's either worse/same/or better than flossing, but overall the opinion seems to be that it's about the same, and it's certainly better than doing nothing.
cyrusm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
....I shouldn't clip my nails at my desk?
coolman9999uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely masturbate straight after.
sisyphus99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was Mitch Headburg that said "The only thing harder than quitting smoking is starting to floss". I do regularly now and my mouth feels fucking nasty if I skip it, even directly after brushing. It doesn't hurt after the first few days if you do it regularly and no blood, fools. People that use that excuse need to understand that's like saying they don't brush their hair because it's too tangled. That only flies if your end goal is dreadlocks or a solid mass of tartar.
Bonus: dental cleanings are a fuckin' breeze.
Lasagnahead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
macsb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It can also become this nasty disease infested cesspool of death, decay, and despair.
Source: Have a coworker who clearly hasn't flossed since the Mesozoic era. The result is a giant build up of tarter and decay between each tooth, creating a bridge of nastiness along the gum line.
Wolfesbane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flossed today? Have a wank!
__rosebud__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot to mention masturbating afterwards. Other than that, great suggestions.
hybridthm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They probably assumed you were male, perhaps they should have told you to flick the bean or whatever the kids are calling it these days.
you should masturbate and floss though because when askreddit asks what should you do more often, those are the top 2 answers. I presume there is a study saying it's healthy to frequently masturbate (or at least have sex or masturbate, but this is reddit and noone gets laid).
spect3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pro tip! Keep a bag of flosser sticks in your car! And floss while you drive :D
ScrumptiousPrincess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fingernails or toenails?
lamchopsuey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This.
It wasn't until Steve-O did an AMA and that got me to floss more (out of all people) when he quoted Knoxville on his bad breath. โSaying Steve-O has bad breath is like saying Weeman is short.โ
red-bot ยท 5323 points ยท Posted at 14:27:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Put your damn shoulders back, have a confident walk, and don't stare at the ground all the time as you walk. I've always been told these things by my parents and others.. I never really noticed how stupid it looks until I saw some people walking around my college campus with their head at a 90ยบ angle to the ground while walking.
E: Thanks to all who have responded thus far. Just wanted to share a couple of resources. First is a Ted Talk video on the power of posture. The second was pointed out to me by /u/ApologizingCanadian and is an instructional video for better posture and was originally posted by /u/HothHanSolo in this LPT thread which /u/taranteam pointed out to me! Thanks guys!!
Chillaxbro ยท 2808 points ยท Posted at 15:17:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never noticed how bad my shoulders were. I saw a video of me walking recently and I looked like a god damn Neanderthal. I now make a point to walk with my shoulders in the proper position. Not only did I notice my back start to feel better, but the confidence that you project with correct posture is amazing.
Feels off at first but you get used it it. Just need to retrain your body.
Bo_Bo ยท 5135 points ยท Posted at 17:24:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Just imagine your nipples are headlights and you're trying to light up the road in front of you.
Edit: Thank you for the gold, most kind and generous stranger!
Nardo318 ยท 4047 points ยท Posted at 17:38:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Shine on you crazy nipple
Edit: damn you people are easily entertained
More edit: thank you for the gold. I feel strangely appreciated and can now sleep well tonight.
go_ask_your_father ยท 489 points ยท Posted at 17:47:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's my nubbin.
tisjustbrandon ยท 278 points ยท Posted at 18:19:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wh...what's a nubbin, Chandler?
StrungoutScott ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:28:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just recently started watching Friends, and now i'm so happy i see all these references that i get.
TheSpiffySpaceman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:06:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/howyoudoin
DLNL ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:35:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...aaaand im subscribed.
TheSpiffySpaceman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you be any more subscribed?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why is it called that
TheSpiffySpaceman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/friends was taken by something more generic I guess
ThachWeave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/friends displays the people you are "friends" with on Reddit.
Louis_Farizee ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:28:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing, Joey, what's a-nubbin with you?
skweeky ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:03:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whip it out! Whip it out!
TheSpiffySpaceman ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:06:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, we're all out of milk.
.... Chandler, could you top me off?
skweeky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It opens a secret door to the magical land of Narnia!
StopReadingMyUser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The source of all his power.
raging_muffinanimal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go ask your father.
PSU02 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go ask your father.
blackmagemasta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's nubbins, precious?
Disney_Reference ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go ask your father
SirSplodingSpud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go ask your father.
Chumming4Sharks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go ask your father.
Tinfoilpain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username...
Chillaxbro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cause nubbins there!
coyoterabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a paddlin'
melanoo420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'It's nubbin...I mean, nothing!'
Alriteyeah ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:38:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when you were cold, you stuck out like a poll.
Shine on you crazy nipple.
Now there's a look on your chest, like two mountains a rest.
Shine on you crazy nipple!
You were caught in the zipper of hooded apparel, trying to prevent the freeze.
Come on you target for papparazzo paychecks, come on you twister, you headlight, you milker, and shine!
the8nizz4 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:38:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
we need more, man. do all the songs.
LordNoodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing.
Shineyoucrazydiamond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:01 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I detest this parody
Freefall84 ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 19:14:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when you where young..... Nipples shone like the sun...Shine on you, Crazy nipples....
Fackle ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:20:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, great album by Pink Nipple
OtherSideofSky ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:14:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right?? I mean Dark Side of the Boob is my fav but Wish Your Tits Were Here is my close second
megamando ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer The Nipple or The Dark Side of the Areola.
Fackle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also great, erogenous albums!
PrivilegeCheckmate ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:34:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn it, now it's stuck in my head. The only way to get rid of it is to hear the whole song, so there goes the next 3 hours.
Come on you milker, you Siamese of twinners, come on you tweaker, you jiggler, you pumper, and shine!
TedTheViking ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:11:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You were caught in the crossfire of twisters and bean-dips,
Chilled by the cool breeze,
Come on you target for juvenile humor, come on you stranger, you locker room martyr, and shine!
w a a a a
w a a a a a a a a a
na a a a a
na na na naaaa
na na na naaaaaaaaa naaaaaa naaaaaaa naaaaaaa naaaa aaa aaa aaa
wooo wooo
HEYdontIknowU ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:28:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh the great composition by Pokie Floyd
Bohnenbrot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
guitar solo
Not-a-ostrich ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:19:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
Malawi_no ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now there's that look in your eyes,
phantompowered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kif, raise him up about nipple high!
CharSmar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carry on, my wayward nipple
DownFromYesBad ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:13:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gtfo
CharSmar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um...no.
Classicpass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's also how stupid things show up on frontpage
Gohack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hide it under a T-shirt. No! I'm gonna let it shine! (Childrens Choir)
chasedaspire1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nipple hard and shining like diamonds
allieruns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shh bby is ok.
benign-indifference ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when you were young Your nips shined like the sun!
plankthetank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
I_AM_YOUR_DADDY_AMA ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:55:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You were caught in the cross fire, with misplaced precision
[deleted] ยท 403 points ยท Posted at 18:14:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap, immediately effective. What other life changing advice do you have?
The_Iron_Bison ยท 533 points ยท Posted at 18:33:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do whatever you like as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.
PacoTaco321 ยท 1789 points ยท Posted at 19:42:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Oh cool.
slumps shoulders again
mib_sum1ls ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:48:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ow! Cut that out.
PacoTaco321 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:41:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
slumping intensifies
Clever-username- ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:08:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or yourself
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:46:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breaks up with girlfriend and becomes a shut-in in order to avoid all forms of disappointment and pain
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:27:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Golfdamnit you again!
neto96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username numeral transition checks out.
windose ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:46:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
๐
PacoTaco321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฏ๐ฏ๐ฏ
Logged_In2_Downvote ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 20:45:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Making obvious jokes not covered here because it hurts my soul to read
Psych555 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:36:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoke weed e'ryday.
Pperson25 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:22:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also don't conveniently change the definition of "hurt" to conveniently line up with your actions.
The_Iron_Bison ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured that went without sayin', but it proably doesn't.
Masokysm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Public masturbation never hurt anyone... Right?
August_28th ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:30:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't hurt if they're asleep. Thanks!
crash218579 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like something a Wiccan would say.
petit_cochon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*including yourself
People forget that one. You don't need to be doing things that hurt you or others.
The_Iron_Bison ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hurting yourself could be considered hurting others that care 'bout you.
petit_cochon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True enough, wise one. :)
logosdiablo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really deep hole, when you start considering secondary/tertiary/etc. effects.
DavidlikesPeace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
caveat to that is the realization that when our actions truly do hurt other people or create risks, we have to take complete responsibility for it. Don't whine and use excuses like 'all men cheat' or 'corporations deserve to be stolen from' to justify your own bad habits.
Realize that actions have consequences.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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The_Iron_Bison ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of that before. Nice read, thanks.
logicalmaniak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The_Iron_Bison ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:28:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or as I like to say "Don't be an asshole"
Basically covers everything, I think.
Fwizzle45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to masturbate all day, everyday! Oh wait....
Eyezupguardian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aww man, but the best things in life hurt someone a little
The_Iron_Bison ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they're into it, then that's a bit different. And fun.
GhostlyParsley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what if I want to droop my shoulders and stare at the ground as I walk?
HaroldTheSpineFucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Time to fuck a blender
MisterOpioid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So throw away my smartphones, TV's and every other electronic I own? :(
Stay_Fly_neffew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, broke my penis.
kerouacrimbaud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night, and in between does whatever he wants," said some dude named Bob Dylan.
Flabby-Nonsense ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nerd
The_Iron_Bison ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fraz-razzler.
Trippy-Skippy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Words to live by.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my motto
Ken_Breadbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Wiccan Rede: 'An it harm none, do as ye will'. 'An' means if, and 'none' includes yourself.
pmme_yo_tits_girl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to say doing some things will offend people but that's not the same as hurt.
Haters gon hate
IHateTheLetterF ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When someone gives you shit, stab them in the eye.
GnomeChomski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Balance, breath control and smiling are all good practices that yield uncanny positive results.
TheVentiLebowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a story to share?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start lifting. And then sit back and let the girls start running to you.....and gay dudes...that's also an unwanted side effect.
p1-o2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, make eye contact, greet people first, walk in the front, keep your elbows away from your sides, keep your hands out of your pockets, point your toes toward the person you're talking to, add a new shirt and pants to your wardrobe every 2-3 weeks, and keep your hands on the table not under it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine your penis is a magic wand that cures all diseases. Go and poke everyone in front of you.
E-J-E ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't stand or sit with your arms crossed. Have your hands stay down by your waist band whilst standing. If you want an anchor point. Touch your thumb and fore finger together. Don't hold your drink in a bar. Look sound and you will notice most men have the one arm beer across chest posture. Put yours down. You'll feel better.
lookin4info ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 17:48:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I fix my posture I'll think of this and crack up. Then I'll look like I've lost my mind
zippercot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:24:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't do the sound effects under your breath.
lookin4info ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I do like a chest thrust back?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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lookin4info ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks ๐
thirstyfish209 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:04:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or that lasers are coming out of them and you're trying to cut people's heads off
knottylazygrunt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:14:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this why people call hard nipples high beams!?
aahrg ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:50:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fat guys gonna be doing the limbo down the street thanks to you
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Bobo..bobobobobobobo.
Shinsvaka93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Laser beams work too. Just pretend those bad boys are shooting jets of plasma or something
CollusorReginae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Twinkle, twinkle, little nipple...
mankytit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk like you're wearing a cape.
The_Masturbatrix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the comment we deserve.
Lyude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like this?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Lyude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dare I say his posture is... SUUUUPER!?
FilthyRedditses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If youre a male with gynocomastia, this is the exact opposite of what you are inclined to do. Would you rather look like a hunchback or look like youre holding two dinner rolls under your shirt?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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FilthyRedditses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except they arent O_O
Amberella91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere a while ago to walk as if someone is keeping an invisible string attached to the top of your head taught. I visualize it once in a while and people compliment my posture : )
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tits to the sky
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulders back, tits out!
TmickyD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did that once and got flashed by the people in front of me.
FunkyFireStarter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Brooklyn NY. I kinda need to keep my eyes on the ground to watch out for dog shit. Its not a confidence thing. Its a not wanting to scrape dog shit off my shoes thing.
logosdiablo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with bugs, or worms after a rain.
d1x1e1a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's how I areola
deanresin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just did that and I got a little excited sexually
big10zin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great tip(s?)
PersistentHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She has no nipples!!!
DeathDiggerSWE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The extra light you can provide with three nipples must give those few people massive confidence.
atomiswave2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate people but I want sex from attractive women. Keeping my head down helps me keep a low profile.
UC235 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've been deliberately slouching since high school as a fat guy trying not to show off unfortunate chest structure.
flowerpencup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i have found that reddit can word things in such a way that impacts my teenagers better than anyway i could word things. this is going to be the 2nd time i print out something and attach it to their bathroom mirror. this time i'll also add photos! thanks bo.bo
WineForOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is literally what my coach yelled at my color guard when I was a senior in high school. Imagine a very flamboyant African American man just screaming "LIGHT UP THE ROOM" from the top of the gym bleachers during practice lol. Worked every time
ButtAssassin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will do this next time I walk. Thank you, Bo-Bo
Eyezupguardian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope many women follow this advice
SWGunner-11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's always been uncomfortable when I try to just "put my shoulders back". This helped haha. Thanks.
lightbrekkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once heard a wakeboard instructor refer to this as 'proud boobies'.
doublefelix7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is instantly helpful for me. Great tip to remember.
ritz22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow you really make words come alive.
huxrules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha- I think when I was a kid we called boobs "headlights" for a short period of time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't work if you're chubby and trying to hide your lumpy nips tho
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've also heard, "imagine your nipples are laser guns and your zapping your surroundings."
IHateLowBattery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in the library trying to hold back my laugh, fuck you.
Aperture_Kubi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one yet, really? OK fine I'll do it.
NUUUUUUUDISTO BEEEEEEEACHO
BearWrangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me light up Betty's titties
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to up vote but I down voted, then I tried to reply and I reported it as spam. Sorry.
sssh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why just imagine when we have the technology?
the_doozer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine??!!
I thought they were supposed to do that.
TealComet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suuuuuupppeeeeerrrrr!!!
PajamaHive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CONE NIPPLES ARE SUPERIOR!
Soccadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh I'm not gonna do that
Yewotm69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you have saggy tits?
blastfromtheblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is why old ladies like to limbo
AptCasaNova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried this going around a corner.. awkward.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The eyes are the nipples of the face.
Firoaren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma: It's conga time!
Trouser_Snakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
scottmill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard "pretend you're wearing a cape" also.
BarelyAnyFsGiven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm using this to describe dead lift form next time.
ayyyavalanche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weirdly helpful. Noted.
Agent_staple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
TheSimonizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cover a bigger radius by helicoptering my moobs.
azginger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
derfalicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FFRAANNKKYY NIPPLE LIGHTS!
jvalordv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard imagine a string is in the center of your chest and pulling you up, but that works too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
High beams only for me.
bigfondue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am going to light the entire world with my nipples!
wermberm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you have to do a backbend to achieve this.
DrFunkyStuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
dragn99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer to pretend I'm wearing a cape. My shoulders immediately go back.
SQNPC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will never forget this, I'm absolutely sure of it.
BeneluxTyranny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, if that were true id never be able to see where I was going. Id have the visual field of a horse. They kinda point out at a 45 degree angle these day. Stupid babies making my boobies sad.
janetplanet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried that while walking around my neighborhood, but people kept yelling at me and covering their childrens' eyes.
saztak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if I have tits, do I walk like this? How about this?
jk this is great advice.
Meow-The-Jewels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually great advise for me. It keeps me entertained and it works
mirandamm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit now I'm walking like that. Trying to direction my nipples around the road :/
Sirtriplenipple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My path is lit extra!!!
crnbrryjc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if your titties face down? Do I get myself a mobile hospital bed?
WikipediaDoctor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all know you don't need to put a stupid edit into your comment to thank the person who gave you gold.
[deleted] ยท 603 points ยท Posted at 17:31:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed that people who start working out start 'broadening' their shoulders because they get used to utilizing and stretching out their chest and back muscles. I bet someone could find correlation of confidence building and working out as a result of the appearance change from a better posture learned through exercising.
vision-quest ยท 559 points ยท Posted at 18:18:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My posture 100% changed after working out. Part of it is wanting to show off those pecks you've been working on..
holographene ยท 1138 points ยท Posted at 19:10:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the internet no one knows you're a rooster.
[deleted] ยท 857 points ยท Posted at 19:44:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But everyone knows you're a bit of a cock
PsychoAgent ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:53:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least he ain't chicken.
pixelprophet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:58:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
License and registration, chicken fucker! Buhgawk!
DegenerateWizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're a cock, you're a cock, you're a cock!
shepy66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok. We all like cock here. Deeeep down.
tenpaces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing but net
Mic1994hael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The name's dick not cock how many times do I have to tell you people.
HeWentToJared91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its okay, OP likes cocks.
Daerdemandt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You love yourself a bit, don't you?
punksneverdie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
where is the other bit?
Eightpiece ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With a bit of a cock, comes a bit of a cunt.
remlu ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best comment this month.
Ticktack16 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:16:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Setting the bar pretty low, don't ya think?
remlu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
struck me as funny.
TheVentiLebowski ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:23:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the new guy.
remlu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 year club. just have a different sense of humor...
qrstu4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he's not a man, he's a chicken boo
mib_sum1ls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Underrated comment of the day.
PrecisePrecision ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:09:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pecs.
Short for pectoralis major
ostermei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he's Peter Piper.
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the equal flip side: my posture drastically changed when I STOPPED working out (due to a minor motorbike accident).
I noticed my scapula pushing out and forward, my chest sink in which in turn brought my head lower and pushed my stomach out.
The posture may be at least part pride but a large amount is simply the exercise physically correcting your stance
toolateiveseenitall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:17:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah I'm always smooching at the air when I'm walking around
hybridthm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pec is short for pectoral but you've done the right thing and allowed everyone to take karma from their fowl little jokes
vision-quest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
iPhone auto-correct >.> wasn't intentional but happy to lend a helping hand regardless!
suicidebylifestyle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a reasonably sized chest from lifting and when ever i walk with a straight back friends call me out saying I'm trying to puff out my chest.....No! you damn orangutang I'm just walking with decent posture!
Therealbigteddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Though my shoulders are just comfortably hunched forward since I was young, working rear delts helped my posture most.
Vladdypoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone told me this but I've worked out my entire life and my posture is godawful. It's just more comfortable to slouch in chairs and such.
vision-quest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my sitting posture was still bad. That's a little different, though I did make a conscious effort to try and work on that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
always pretend like youre a model showing off your pecks when you walk
skraptastic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:32:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have now lost 50lbs since January 2015. There are so many weird things happening to my body now. I have these hard lumps in my chest, shoulders, back, legs and arms! I find myself flexing at weird times just because I never had muscle in those places before.
Last night after the gym I showed my wife how "swoled" (I actually said "Honey look how swoled I am!)I got at the gym. Side effect I never knew about working out...less than 3 minutes after she was feeling my muscles we were banging like high school kids.
ggggtotalwarrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I felt my back straightened out a lot more than my chest stuck out. It's pretty much impossible to slouch like I used to now.
bl0bfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This then puts your shoulders back in a bad postion by trying to flex your chest all the time.
hermionebutwithmath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the worst part about having boobs, I don't get to see my pec progress.
hustl3tree5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dead Lifts will fix your posture in a week
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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vision-quest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure man, rock em' if you're proud!
crrttt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The other part is just wanting to flex those sexy new shoulder muscles
RootsRocksnRuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have noticeable pecs but I walk like I do.
SnatchAddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pecs = sex. True story
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured that a part of it was just that your muscles are essentially "pulling" your body into place so that it's easier for you to assume a more naturally correct posture.
At least that's how it felt for me after a while. But it definitely partially involves walking more confidently with your body.
underwaterpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, you just naturally start to revert to good posture if you have a comprehensive workout routine. Work every muscle the same and you will end up with good posture.
throwmelikeitshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto, I had a similar thing. After strengthening my shoulders enough it just felt more natural to push them back and broaden my stance.
ZincCadmium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got taller! I already had pretty good posture from a background in dance, but after just 4-6 weeks of doing compound lifts 3-5 times a week, I was noticeably taller. At the squat rack I went from having to use the second rack from the bottom to the third.
PickleWickleton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the ellipses...
BrokenFood ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Over developed pecs would usually worsen your posture ehehh :(
red-bot ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:59:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, of course! I haven't studied the connection, but I know there is one. I've heard so many times that exercising helps out with confidence and even can help fight off negative feelings or depression. Not only does your body get stronger, your mind gets stronger. You feel better about yourself in so many ways; physically and even how you perceive yourself and how you think others perceive you.
li0ns22 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 19:31:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I made a decision before the holidays to get in shape and change myself. 6+ years of depression, daily suicidal thoughts, no confidence, no idea of self worth. 4 weeks later, no suicidal thoughts, my confidence has improved dramatically, I love myself now, and even the negative thoughts I do have get quickly pushed away once I realize what I'm thinking and how it has no bearing on my life. It's insane, I honestly thought I would have killed myself at this point because nothing else seemed to worked. Therapy, medication, none of that seemed to help but hopping on the treadmill for an hour a day is like crack now. I can't stop.
red-bot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:39:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GOOD! This is so happy to read. I think people forget that humans are still animals. We still have underlying needs, even though we might not recognize them or they might not be promoted by society. Exercise is one of those things that most people don't get, I think. Exercise can help so much mentally.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is just wonderful to read! Congratulations to you, I'm really glad you're better now.
citizen888 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't stop!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:47:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely! I just started working out here and there a couple months ago, the joy I feel every week when lifting heavier weights than last week is just great. Finally being able to do 3 sets of pec flys with 40's (on dumbbells) was a huge rush, I jumped up off my bench and actually punched the air because I was so happy!
I'm still pretty damn skinny even after all these months because I don't eat enough protein to gain much weight, but I still am much stronger than I was and it most certainly shows in my posture and how I carry myself. Not to mention I just feel better all the time; more energetic, more willing to work for hours on ridiculous code at work (software developer).
I don't even do that much, my workouts tend to take less than an hour and all I needed was a $50 dumbbell kit with some weights. Then I drink a protein shake on workout days. 3 days a week, most simple thing ever!
santoxeu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's your workout routine?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I follow this routine because I only have access to dumbbells right now: https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/frankoman-dumbbell-only-split.html
santoxeu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I only have dumbbells too, I'll give this a try.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem! Just eat lots and lots of protein, I've definitely toned my muscles because I'm not eating enough so I'm not bulking. One of my goals for this new year is to put on a ton of clean weight!
Good luck :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get enjoyment out of lifting weights at all =/ I've tried on several occasions. Each at 4 month intervals. But I hate it so much. How did you force yourself to like lifting? Every day when I knew I scheduled myself to work out (3-4 times a week), my day was completely ruined. Knowing that I had to lift actually made my life WORSE. I don't understand how people can just go every day and make it a routine and enjoy it. I envy you guys. I hate lifting =/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well.
I started after my last girlfriend left me, she was supposed to be the "one". Like we were perfect together and everyone that knew us thought we would be married blah blah blah... When she left me I took a look at myself and realized I wasn't happy with who I was anymore. Too skinny, not enough hobbies anymore.
So working out, for me, is something I do because I need to get bigger and healthier. I also honestly love how tired I get, the adrenaline rushes and all of that. I like feeling sore the next day and pushing my body to its limits because I know I'm just getting stronger and building myself into a better person.
To me, my girl leaving me (wasnt to do with how I look, it was something else) was kind of motivation to stop being fucking lazy and do something with myself. I probably would not be working out if it weren't for her leaving me.
The first couple weeks sucked, I hated it and I just felt weak because I could barely lift anything. Now I'm a couple months in and I kind lift heavier weights every week, so its really just a good feeling when I know I'm building the muscle I want and need. You will probably hate it for a little bit, but it starts to not hurt as much after a while. I still push my body almost as far it can go, but the soreness doesn't last as long afterwards.
Just commit to it, find a reason. You won't lift if you don't want to, so make yourself want it. Are you not comfortable with what you look like? Are you too big/small? Well there's your motivation. Get fit, it also helps in every day life. I just feel more alert and willing to work now.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. But really, try it!
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto! Haha. Glad you found a good routine and that it's making you feel good!! :D I should really get a gym membership or something..
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! Actually I do all my workouts at home, I use my friggin' coffee table as my bench :P I can't be bothered to pay a lot of money to only go maybe 3 times a week when I can do it all at home (at least for now)!
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neat! I can't really afford it either, at the moment. My school might provide a gym, but it's kind of far away.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he means more the fact that your posture changes due to new muscle groups etc might also unintentionally affect mood via body language.
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if working out makes you angry? After an intense workout I don't like how mad I am, I don't understand it. It's like hulk mode.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hm.. I'm not sure.. Usually, for me, it's the other way around. If I work out when I'm angry, it helps cool me down. I'm not sure why you would get angry after a workout.
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me neither :( my only guess is surfacing repressed anger?
SickeninglyNice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe something to do with soaring testosterone?
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it. Mine is barely within normal range as is, ~350. I'm 21.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe talk it out with someone you trust or start writing in a journal? I'm not sure why anger would be connected to working out, but working out is a good thing and you don't want that connection.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:01:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I first tried to go to the gym, they had this compulsory doctor who examines your current fitness levels (liability reasons) and talks about stuff to do with biology.
It was explained to me that a lot of people have shoulders that kind of hunch in, because the primary muscles in their upper body that get a workout are across the chest. So, lifting shopping bags etc, is achieved by tightening/pulling in those muscles in the chest.
To broaden the shoulders, you'd need to do exercises that use the muscles between the shoulder blades. They'd end up getting tighter and pulling the bones back.
Chicago1871 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I've noticed that Boxers and MMA (also swimmers and gymnast) fighters tend to have great physique and awareness of posture, because their sport targets the back and core so much.
They have well developed back muscles compared to average population.
StabbyPants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
working out also makes you feel better in a bunch of different ways - that'll make you more confident too.
Turfie146 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been working out for 23 years. Still walk with my head down because I can even pretend to be worth fuck all.
blackstoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man, you good. Keep that head up.
ahhter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started getting back into shape a couple years ago and it completely fixed my slouching. I credit the increased strength (and tightening) in my upper back and shoulder muscles.
tableman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I developed my upper back it became weird not to stand like that.
Soccermom233 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's an increase in testosterone when posture is correct.
takecontrolright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm, after i started lifting weights, i have better posture and more confidence when walking looking forward all times sometimes deep into peoples soul
Eiramasil919 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started working out seriously about a year ago. I went to the gym yesterday, and looked in the mirror. I actually noticed my posture. I was surprised at how much better I carry myself. My shoulders are no longer rounded, and I keep myself upright. Even though I still have another twenty pounds to go, my more defined shoulders make a huge difference!
HBxSAUCE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely feel more confident after working out
Aulm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll also most likely strengthen the deltoids which will give the appearance of broader shoulder as well.
Instantcoffees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, certainly! Working out and doing a lot of sports drastically improved my posture. I mean, I still sit in a couch like I'm trying to hug every piece of fabric, but I noticed that I stand and walk with a vastly improved posture.
I had to quit sports due to health issues, but I'm not planning on doing that again any time soon!
Shivern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My posutre isn't very great, and if I don't work out for a while it is really bad. So if I'm taking a break from working out I will notice how bad my posture gets, then I'll go to the gym and just after a set of deadlift (pretty much as heavy as I can) I immedeatly have a much better posture (+confidence).
delaware ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just building muscle. My shoulders widened just as much from doing mobility and flexibility drills as they did from lifting weights. I still tend to walk around with hunched shoulders but it's slowly getting better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I noticed that too (which was why I said stretching their muscles, rather than building). People who work out are more aware of how much they need to stretch out as well, which is where I think the better posture comes from.
DirkFroyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a certain forward roll of the shoulders that people who workout only their front get. When you start to workout your back, it corrects and gets really good looking.
beatisagg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard there was a study that says just standing in the superman pose for like 2 minutes a day changes your confidence level. I didn't read it tbh. Here's the research
catfingers64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a TED talk about how certain postures affect your mood/confidence. Confident poses like standing with your hands on your hips like superman have a physiological affect on your body. Doing one for a minute or two before a stressful situation like giving a presentation or interviewing can make you appear/act more confident. The presenter goes into more postures and the research that backs up her findings.
sephera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They already have
krokenlochen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It can but you have to make sure there's a balance in strength. My pecs were pretty tight and my rhomboids weak, so my shoulders rolled in. I have a straight back but still working on more back strength
Meow-The-Jewels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also has to do with strengthening your back muscles
LastAcctThrownAway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a matter of fact, my PT's first order of business was to work my back in order to help fix my posture. Still a session for it in my weekly routine.
Definitely_Working ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
absolutely. i lost alot of weight while also doing strength training and i ended up feeling so much better simply because of how i carried myself naturally. its a combination of all the benefits of working out, even if people dont notice it specifically, they always get the impression subconsciously about you from how you carry yourself.
Cessno ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 16:30:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boot camp will fix all of those posture problems, for a bit at least
almaperdida ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:28:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
then the rest of your military career will ruin it again
source: vet collecting disability from the VA.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:27:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then they come back.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:33:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They definitely come back.
My drill sergeant helped me to 'correct' my posture when standing at the position of attention. He provided a lot of practice and guidance.
TiffanyCassels ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:41:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they definitely come back. I know a dude who went to basic and came back with a ramrod-straight back. He looked like a different person (he's actually quite tall) but over the years his slouch has returned pretty hardcore. Shame.
XXS_speedo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's me.
Dekar2401 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the rucking plays hell on your back if you're not careful. Also the soul crushing PTSD and the slow grind wearing away the fucks you can give.
MizBlaze ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:40:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was 5'4" when I started basic. When I left I was 5'6". 20 years later I'm 5'5". Frontleaningrestposition, MOVE!
speedyharper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So does yoga!
ViviWannabe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a coworker that slouches and it annoys me to no end. I'm like, I know they taught you to stand up straight in basic, wtf?!
Cessno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:24:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ran out of fucks i suppose
Gohack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought having a windows partition was going to make me more attractive. Fuck you.
bubbleheadbob2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll second that! I thought I had pretty good posture until I got to boot camp. Learning the "position of attention" with a few crusty, pissed off E-7s screaming at me proved that I actually had no fucking idea what "standing up straight" meant.
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apple to the rescue.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:25:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're in an office environment and you couple this with holding a folder and walking briskly through the halls everyone will get out of your way and let you get back to reddit faster.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you are a Neanderthal. The average European is 2-3% Neanderthal.
BallzDeepNTinkerbell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:01:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But where am I supposed to look if I want to avoid all eye contact?
Lepontine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeahhhh I get people telling me I walk like I'm trying to puff my chest out, but really I'm just walking straight.
It's insane how terrible the posture is with some of my friends. One is 6'3" or so and looks only 5'10" due to his slouch.
mrsparta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A piece of advice someone gave me once was to do the "superhero pose" 10 minutes throughout the day. The pose is when you stand straight with your head level, shoulders back, elbows cocked out, and your hands/fists are on each of your hips. Do it when you're observing something, when you stop to think, when you're talking face to face with someone. It's a sign of confidence and is also great for posture because unknowingly you'll start to do the pose all the time, helping ultimately with the way you stand consistently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got back in the gym gym recently after being sick for a few years and losing a lot of weight. Two of the biggest parts of my workout have been deadlifts and pull ups. Each work your lower and upper back respectively. I noticed almost overnight my posture had improved without me even having to think about it. It's like a grew another inch and a half. Women noticed too.
otter_pop_n_lock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has always been my biggest problem. I slouch like crazy and every time I remind myself to straighten out my back, I do and it only lasts for about a minute.
StupidQuestionBot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also try these exercises for posture: https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/3zjgoh/lpt_request_how_to_consistently_improve_my_posture/cymmubb
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always was confused by comments like these because try as I might, proper posture starts to hurt my back remarkably fast, no matter how long I stick with it. Thirty minutes of proper posture and my back is in agony. I brought it up at a recent doctor's appointment and my doctor said "welllllll" and pointed looked at my prodigious breasts. Awwww man. (Before the obligatory /r/abrathatfits comments, yes, I'm on it, I'm trying new bras now)
hubristichumor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went a little over the top with it when I first noticed my poor posture. I was walking around campus and one of my friends was like "you're walking like you are ready to fight someone".
Gkoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you do this without looking like youre intentionally popping your chest out?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deadlift more for posture correction. But if you do it wrong, you will also destroy everything so be careful
nixzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I heard this advice when i was in high school, and noticed an immediate effect. Then I grew manboobs and it stopped working as well.
skydivingdutch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't push you shoulders back, instead straighten your back, i.e. move the base of your neck backwards.
saab121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I walk with correct posture but people at work take the piss saying I walk like a pigeon with my chest pushed out :(
trickyboy21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd walk with correct posture if I were comfortable with my body.
Nothing attractive about minor-grade man boobage.
solzhen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get into a yoga classes. It'll fix your posture and more. ๐
dethstrobe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a tall guy so hunching over came pretty natural. However, I found once I started to work out and do squats and dead lifts that my back got a lot stronger and having good posture came naturally without me even needing to think about it. I also got big muscles and no longer look skinny fat. Which also helped with the ol' confidence factor.
So if people are having trouble with good posture, I'd recommend start weightlifting and doing work outs that work on the core muscles. Also, check out /r/fitness because they're pretty insuring and usually has good advice.
TheNorthwest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started putting shoulders back but realized that's not enough. Its also important to lift your body from your core. Which is challenge every day. My music teacher used to say imagine someone has you on a string attached and they're pulling up on it.
orchidloom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"When in doubt, chest out."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dancing makes a world of difference! When I first started belly dancing, a lot of attention was devoted to teaching us proper dance posture. And it didn't take long before I started paying attention to my daily posture and realizing how slouchy I'd become.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So in other words you looked like a redditor
manrider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
in fairness, neanderthals probably had better posture than the average first world human of today.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't over do it though like that girl freshman year who'd walk with her chest stuck it to try and hide how flat and nonexistent her tits were.
walruskingmike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neanderthals had pretty good posture.
oliwilton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I start off okay, then I forget and start to slump again. :/
chuckymcgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you strengthen your back through exercise you will naturally assume this position.
fighterpilot248 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulders up, back, down.
Those four words are said so much during marching band season.
alderaancruiser17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I wish I had an invisible camera following me so I could watch the video later and make notes on how I should change my appearance or the way I act.
Ktbear23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the trouble with big boobs is...well, gravity.
infernal_llamas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you take up a sport like archery or gymnastics where posture is vital you realise this very quickly.
Thinnestspoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I need to do this so badly! It just feels so uncomoftable and weird to start with.
[deleted] ยท 489 points ยท Posted at 17:11:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get confident, stupid!
FarewellToCheyenne ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:56:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smoke Yourself Thin!
FortSensible ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:05:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This circle is you
treachery_pengin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My god.. It's like you've known me all my life!
BenjaminGeiger ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:53:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work a little bit harder on improving your low self esteem, you stupid freak. โ Weird Al, "Your Horoscope For Today"
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may remember me from such reddit threads as: "what are some simple things you can do to make yourself more attractive" and "whats your favourate meme of 2015?"
scy1192 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:05:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Life is hard, alright? WRONG. Life is easy, you suck.
rag3train ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP
ApologizingCanadian ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 17:49:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am piggybacking for anyone who would like to improve their postures, these exercises are a wonder for a better overall posture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_dFRnmdGs
Courtesy of /u/HothHanSolo
anythingyouwant4 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:17:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Those exercises are surprisingly challenging.
ApologizingCanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IKR, I couldn't do the ladder climb at first. The more you do it, the easier they get.
anythingyouwant4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to try to keep at these twice a day for a month and see if it helps correct the slightly humped look I have to the back of my shoulders. I'm too young for that shit. After doing them this afternoon and again this evening, I think I may be sore tomorrow.
obvious__bicycle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:33 on February 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you stick with it for a month? How did it go?
anythingyouwant4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:41 on February 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha - okay, I'm glad you asked. I did the exercises for three days in a row. After the third day, I had incredible, keep-me-awake-at-night, can't-think-straight-in-the-day pain in my neck and upper back so I decided to take a couple days off, just gently stretch and wait for the kinks to work out. After a week of severe pain and no improvement with warm showers, Tylonel, and gentle stetching, I called my gp and got some flexeril. It was another ten days or so of gentle care plus the muscle relaxants before the pain backed down.
I talked to my physical therapist (was seeing him for an ankle injury) about my reaction to the posture exercises, and he said, essentially, that they were too advanced for me and that I should start at a much lower gradient- just standing straight up with my back and back of head against the wall. Right now I'm just so relieved not to be in pain any more that I haven't made much of an effort to start back in on any sort of posture exercise.
Interesting note though- I am much more aware now of my head position when I'm sitting or standing, and whenever I notice it, I pull my head back to be more over my neck/shoulders.
obvious__bicycle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:29 on February 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes! Sounds like the ol' reddit advice backfired this time. Glad to hear you're no longer in pain. I've been thinking about trying this exercise, but it sounds like it's best to start off slow and ease my way in. If you don't mind me asking, were you a relatively active person to begin with? Wondering if a young, fairly active person like myself could experience a similar injury-- maybe if those muscles aren't normally pushed to that extent.
anythingyouwant4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:24 on February 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Normally I am a very active and even borderline athletic person, but I have been much less active for the past 8 months while rehabbing from foot and ankle surgery. I'm thinking my posture is just really, really bad from a lifelong habit of hunching over books. Even given that, it's never bad to start into a new activity gradually, as you suggest. Also, if it hurts bad the first day, and even more the second day, instead of pushing it and continuing a third day like I did, you probably have the common sense to back it down a notch. :)
bren553 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I need to work on this
ApologizingCanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They look easy but are quite challenging, especially if your posture is very off. But the more you work on it, the easier it gets.
The_Alpacapocalypse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Piggybacking sounds effective. Strengthens those muscles.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! Thanks so much for sharing that video. I think I've seen that one before. Here's one from me to you if you'd like to watch and share with other people!
ApologizingCanadian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I've had terrible posture for years and every bit helps!
cool_hand_legolas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plug for /r/mobility !!!
TheVentiLebowski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think piggybacking would hurt the posture of both people.
zofoandrew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do those nearly every day. They help
huski422 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cover our EEEEERS WIT our POMS, Cover our EEEEERS WIT our POMS
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fixed my forward head with these. I'll also add, a couple simple exercises at the gym that helped me almost immediately were Cable Rows and Face Pulls. Strengthening the muscles will help with the muscles getting tired and gradually pulling your head forward.
At least a couple times a day I'll put my back against a wall in what feels like a neutral position to see how far forward my head is to keep myself in check. It's not enough to do the exercises (though they help a lot), you need to work your way up to being able to hold your head in place throughout the day.
clockwork2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of these posture videos can look messed up out of context:
http://i.imgur.com/ddPjcWB.jpg
ChubbyTrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the internet's too slow to watch this video, can someone summarise?
FarSightXR-20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed that I when I read a book, I always have it low down. Should I be holding it up at eye level so I don't bend my back/neck.?
Nehalennian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like an answer to this as well
larlelar ยท 286 points ยท Posted at 16:35:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is HUGE. I've had horrible posture the majority of my life, and only recently have been trying to keep my back straight and my shoulders back.
I always thought I had awkward, broad shoulders. Nope, just really bad posture. It also makes it way more obvious I've been working out! (You can see my shoulder, back and upper arm muscles much better.) Plus, posture obviously helps with pain and whatnot.
Good posture, man. It's important.
Daevar ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 17:35:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Bad posture has a lot to do with weak shoulder/back muscles (you won't ever see a picture of a well-trained person with bad posture. It's not only a confidence thing). So, working out normally fixes the posture problem basically as a side-effect, which is great.
edit: To all those asking for specific advice: I won't be giving any because I'm no fitness expert and don't want to spout any nonsense that might even be harmful in the end. I just went to my coach at the gym and asked for instructions - but at the gym there are obviously weights to throw around, so it's not exactly "at home without dumbbells" stuff.
TiffanyCassels ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 17:43:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually was hoping someone would say this. I got a breast reduction a few years ago which helped my posture tremendously, but the biggest difference came when I started lifting weights - I've actually had several people comment on how good my posture is since I started working out regularly.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 20:16:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too many women simply refuse to lift weights because they "don't want to be a body builder."
I mean, you don't just accidentally get huge muscles. Shit, I've been working out with the intention of getting big for a couple of years... I do not even remotely resemble a body builder
TiffanyCassels ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:27:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yeah, I don't think a lot of women realize the dedication to fitness/intense diets that it takes to be a bodybuilder. I'm not, and will never be, a competitive fitness lady. I just like to lift heavy shit and put it back down.
Wootery ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:06:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to respond to this kind of nonsense by applying the same thinking elsewhere:
I don't read books; I don't want to be a professor.
Feartality ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:28:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's surprisingly fitting!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm unsure if this was an intended pun or not
Feartality ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always
scherbadeen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously this makes me so sad! I love challenging myself physically, which involves using weights, but so many other women are afraid of looking like body builders. I mean it's not like you're gonna wake up in the morning with some surprise muscles :/ I sure haven't yet, lol.
GGProfessor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have to wonder why they assume they'd look like a female bodybuilder and not like a female fitness model.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:04:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've just started lifting for the express purpose of trying to be able to heft my massive tits without pain. Do you have recommendations for exercises that particularly help? Trying to have proper posture is excruciating really quickly, and I've given up on fixing the problem with some sort of magic bra. I'd like to give it a proper go with lifting before giving in an getting the reduction.
TiffanyCassels ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:24:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally feel you - I was hunched over for years and I still feel the effects of my bad posture years later.
Some exercises I've found are helpful are:
Dumbbell arm/shoulder raises
Dumbbell chest flies
Bent over barbell row
For more in-depth discussion/answers, you can always post your question over on /r/xxfitness - it's a great community of ladies there who will happily give you some support/advice, too :)
DayMan4334 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also good mornings have been good to me. I did deadlifts a lot before, but I get a bit scared of injury a lot.
P_Revere1776 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:30:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should be much more worried about an injury during good mornings than an injury during a deadlift. A deadlift done properly has very little risk of injury. If you go too heavy on a good morning you fucked.
Noumenon72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure the number one muscle group for keeping your thoracic spine from bending forward is the lower trapezius. They push your sternum forward, and keep your upper spine from drooping. But I'm not sure the exercises I did will work on someone with breasts: floor Y's and chest supported dumbbell row.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've done chest supported dumbbell rows before, they can be done, though they are uncomfortable with the squishing. I'm not familiar with floor y, could you expand on that if possible?
Noumenon72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might need to do the rows specifically focusing on the lower trapezius to build the mind-muscle connection. If you pull straight up instead of sweeping your elbows into your back pockets, you feel it in the outside of your back instead of the center.
Floor Y's are like so, you can't add any real weight on those but just learning how to feel the lower traps and flex them does wonders. Your brain, with the nervous signals to the traps re-activated, stops trying to lift your neck with your worn-out upper back muscles and uses the lower traps instead whenever you straighten up.
P_Revere1776 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deadlifts will work magic for you. Watch this guy's videos. He does a lot of videos about deadlifts for correcting posture and other imbalances.
welcometocostco245 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:52:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I have your spare breast tissue
TiffanyCassels ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:02:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's about 4yrs old at this point, so you probably don't want it.
42fortytwo42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How was your recovery post op? Also, which method did they use? Thanks for any info, and I understand if it's too much to ask, I'm a nosey, nosey person :)
TiffanyCassels ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:38:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, no worries! I'm happy to talk about this stuff.
My entire experience was amazing. I chose the Anchor Incision method because my surgeon said I was more likely to retain nipple sensitivity, which he said I may lose a bit if I opted for the Lollipop Method (bonus: they're even more sensitive now. It's great).
Post-op was fine; they gave me Fentanyl for the surgery (which was insane - I hallucinated bikers in my post-op room), then Percocet and T3's for my recovery period. I was a bit loopy for a few days afterward, but on day 4 I went back to work, and by day 5/6 I was riding my bike around like normal. I was a bit stiff, so I took the drugs as needed to help with mobility, but no intense pain or anything at all.
Mostly I just remember not being able to reach stuff above my head for a week, lol.
DayMan4334 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me big breasts and scoliosis have been detrimental to my posture, but working out has seemed to improve it a bit.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Dolphlungegrin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's like slapping God in the face
remlu ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 19:53:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reduction? That's just wrong. I feel like a light just went out and an angel lost its wings.
TiffanyCassels ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:02:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess that depends on what you're into.
I went from having giant, uncomfortable and frankly not terribly perky giant boobs which caused me back pain... to nicely-shaped, perky C-cups. My 'new' boobs look far better than my old ones did, and they'll look/feel better as I get older, too, which was a concern.
DayMan4334 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention you don't have to shell out so much cash for a c-cup bra. Must be a godsend to not spend 75 dollars or more for a bra.
TiffanyCassels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:48:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup! Goodbye $75+ bras, hellooooo 2 for $30 bra sales!
remlu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sacrilege.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:42:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not true. I'm very strong in my back and shoulder, have been lifting 5 days a week for 2 years yet my neck posture still suck due to hunching way too much in front of the computer.
Mrs_MiaWallace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any advice for someone who does work out/is in good shape but still finds themselves slouching at their desk. I've tried to fix it but it's still a conscious effort and as soon as I start concentrating on a task at work I go back to slouching. It's really frustrating.
ceha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, same for me. It's hard to focus on your posture every damn time. And it also hurts at the end of the day. Any idea, recommendation?
TheShadowKick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL I need to start working out. I don't even know how to begin, nor do I have access to a gym. Oh well, there went that idea.
Doc-Rush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started with Simple and Sinister with a 16kg kettlebell. Total cost $72 and I can workout at home. I haven't put on muscle like a body builder, but I'm certainly stronger, back is more muscular, heart rate is way down, and energy is way up. And my wife says my posture is much better.
To be fair, you do move with the program and you will need heavier bells. And the heavier, the more expensive.
But, it took me from "I should work out but don't love gyms/groups of people/exercise" to "I'm actually enjoying this".
crazyjkass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People go to the gym to be seen at the gym. Google/youtube some at home workouts. If you don't want to spend any money search for body weight exercises, calinsethics or "prison workouts". If you don't mind spending a few bucks, get a dumbbell.
Learn a routine that you can do while standing up and watching youtube/netflix/sports/twitch for maximum laziness. Playing video games? Workout on loading screens/in between matches/after dying.
VanFailin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people go to the gym because they have equipment there that they can use more effectively than bodyweight. Shocking, I know.
TheShadowKick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the reason I'd go to a gym if I had access to one.
I guess I'll pick up some dumbbells and look up some exercises.
notzerocrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, before I started weight lifting two years ago I used to slouch all the time even when standing and had an unattractive "hump" at the top of my back just from the way I held my self when standing but it's entirely gone and I stand up straight with pretty good posture now. It's something that when I see in others I find really unattractive now as well. Good posture and knowing how to present yourself makes a big difference.
NabiscoLobstrosity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. Training helps to balance out the muscles, which pulls the skeleton into the ideal positions.
AAAdamKK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any tips on exercises I can do at home with or without a set of dumbbells to strengthen back/ shoulder muscles?
PhilosopherBrain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DB Overhead press, L-sits, handstands, bridging, handstands pushups, chinups.
ermundos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
actually, many athletes have a terrible resting posture, the reason you dont see it in pictures is, well, because they are pictures
Ashuvain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. A lot of people who work out have horrible posture. I myself had horrible posture for a long time even if I worked out, and working out only made it worse. If you don't work out properly and you don't pay attention to your posture, it can definitely make it even worse.
If you make sure you work out your back enough (which a lot of beginners don't do) and your core (and I don't mean just your abs) and do enough stretching, then you have a recipe for a good posture.
Its_the_other_tj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And working out tends to increase ones self confidence as well. Kind of a win win situation.
CitJournalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also your shoes, wrong shoes for your feet's anatomy can mess up your posture. I need thick heels and a cupped ankle support and I stand up way better than flat sole shoes.
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My posture isn't great. I always tell people I don't like it because it makes me look like a dolphin :(
Luv_water ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have great posture, and I've trained myself to walk with confidence. I'm only 6', but everytime I walk through a hallway on campus, or any hallway really, I can feel everyone turn and look at me. I've had plenty of people say that they would guess I'm 6'2 or 6'3. Makes you look taller when you walk with authority, even if you have none.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awkward broad shoulders? Yeah, I have those- they go with my uncomfortable handsome face and tragic hefty penis. Life's tough, bro- stay strong.
larlelar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:18 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha! I'm a lady.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:09 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In that case, how YOU doin??
LetsHarmonize ยท 284 points ยท Posted at 16:45:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In elementary school and middle school I did exactly this. I also didn't move my arms at all while walking. One of my closest friends was in elementary with me, though we didn't become friends until 8th grade. She told me that she thought I looked like a child that was abused often.
My brother and dad eventually started making fun of me so I picked my head up and forced myself to move my arms (I had to actively think about it or I'd forget to move them). It took a while before it became natural.
I still have some posture issues with my shoulders though.
Now_You_Did ยท 242 points ยท Posted at 17:45:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading an article many years ago that people that walk without moving their arms may have a mental illness and since then anyone I see doing this always sticks out to me.
poopnado2 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 20:41:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to walk with my arms swinging in tandem with my legs--so forcing them to swing the opposite way of what is natural. This makes you look like big foot and people will definitely think you're crazy.
bearcat88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:29:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big foot?!? I have to try this
Kiraa7 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:28:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why but I laughed hard
HyruleanHero1988 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:56:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck, this has me laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes. I was like, is it really that weird, then you mentioned bigfoot and I got such a vivid visual.
dmandnm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:22:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the Army we call that the "monster mash".
thenceforth ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:53:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a decades-old study that indicated that a "Frankensteinian" walk as a young child can predict (to a very limited degree) schizophrenia in adulthood. If I can find the article, I'll link to it.
draggadon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:03:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Frankenstenian's Monster" walk. Im not saying your wrong, merely whoever named it in the first place. Everyone always forgets the monster was not named Frankenstein, the doctor was.
myheartisstillracing ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:39:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://xkcd.com/1589/
MaryVenetia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The doctor, Frankenstein, was both a creator and Father figure of the monster. Surely the monster would have been named for him.
thenceforth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but that's what the authors termed it. And if we're really getting technical here, it actually should be "Frankenstein's Monsterian" walk.
draggadon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i know, its just weird everyone associates the monster as frankenstein
nolotusnotes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:14:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/nxxSIX3fmmo?t=23
seinfeldwalk ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:54:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I do this. I've been aware of it at least since middle school (I'm in my 20s now), but I've always been too self-conscious to force myself to swing my arms because I'm afraid it'll look unnatural. I have really bad social anxiety, and this just makes it worse. It's not so bad walking on the street, but crowded places are terrible. Sometimes I'll walk with my arms behind my back, but I don't like doing this for too long because it looks weird, like how a samurai would walk or something.
If you hadn't read that article, would you notice someone doing this? Does it look really peculiar?
Now_You_Did ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:05:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I probably wouldn't notice, no. I had horrible posture in my mid-20s and worked with this guy that had amazing body confidence and never slouched. I started straightening myself out after that and it finally stuck. I don't regret the time I spent (few weeks walking to and from work) making myself walk with proper posture.
Edit: I'd say to put the time in to fix what you feel comfortable fixing (maybe do some crack-of-dawn walking), but the anxiety in crowded places/parties hasn't gone away. That said, I've noticed that it does get easier over time to appear relaxed.
eek04 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:02:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you had help with this? There are cognitive therapy protocols for dealing with it that are usually effective, and there's also medication that can be helpful.
DeathsIntent96 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I 100% notice if someone is walking without moving their arms. It very much sticks out in a crowd.
DarkDarkness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it just feels so unnatural and weird to swing your arms. i like hands in pockets
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here.
I don't subconsciously swing me arms. And for fully doing it looks unnatural.
What I do, is keep my hands moving.
Brush my head, look at something in my hands, crack my knuckles, scratch my shoulder, hands in my pocket, eat.
Edit: meant ect. But the autocorrect to eat works too I guess.
CJ_Productions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you name your account from that? Also this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za1XVgQhsJU
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 18:05:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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InappropriateTA ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 20:19:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least it's high-ranking anxiety.
I think it would be even more depressing if it were Corporal or Private anxiety.
LetsHarmonize ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:27:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be better to have low-ranking anxiety?
InappropriateTA ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:34:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not equating rank to severity, and I think it makes for a better joke to couch it in terms of "hey, look on the bright side" when discussing depression and anxiety rather than playing up the commiserating/whining/pity angle by saying something like "ooh, that's some bad anxiety...you didn't even get off easy with Private or even Corporal anxiety."
I'm not a comedian, though, so it's up for debate, I guess.
LetsHarmonize ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:38:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's keep it that way.
Jk jk. You actually made me chuckle.
InappropriateTA ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:47:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Peace.
I do hope that you are able to manage your depression and anxiety.
Polycatfab ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:51:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had just finished listening to Robin Williams on the way home from work. Not wishing someone to be a comedian might not be such a slight. When you think of the demons some of the best funny men that have had to deal with.
Good luck with your journey.
Now_You_Did ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Same, moderate depression but my anxiety has been surging lately. I may start swinging my arms soon ;)
Edit: stop to start
LetsHarmonize ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How old are you? And have you been aware that you don't swing your arms for a long time?
Now_You_Did ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm older and just meant that I'd start swinging my arms so my wife would notice the behavior and force me to go to a psych for my overwhelming anxiety :)
Edit: words, I typed too fast both times :(
janetplanet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:03:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, it's a good thing i windmill my arms while walking; it let's everybody know that i'm not mentally ill.
Juan_Nieve ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:50:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Timothy Olyphant doesn't move his arms when he walks. It's always bugged me. Now I wonder what might be causing that zombie-esque walk.
Now_You_Did ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:11:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Olyphant and his show Justified and noticed this too. I was wondering if he did it to create extra tension. I can tell my wife that I need to re-watch those first few seasons for science :)
Juan_Nieve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if it's for tension, character development, or actually the way he walks. I see him walk this way in everything I've seen him in, though. A few examples:
-The Girl Next Door
-I Am Number 4
-Justified
-Deadwood
blackberrybramble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man. I love him, but I never noticed. This is going to make me reevaluate things every time I see him walk now.
ADVICE_AND_ANSWERS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:07:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't move my arms until 8th grade, and i have no mental illnesses (that I am aware of). I remember actually deciding not to move my arms when I walk just because I thought it was pointless and was extra, unnecessary movement that I could do without. Then, later on, I decided to begin doing it because it would look weird if I did not, and why not? Everyone else did.
JustAChillDude ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:22:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8th grade you was dumb. Moving your arms while walking helps keep you stable and balanced. I am smarter than 8th grade you. Haha.
ADVICE_AND_ANSWERS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember any problems with balance, but you are probably smarter in some ways than 8th grade me.
chuzuki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Similar story here. I was carrying some toy that caught on my pants, which pried it out of my hand and it landed somewhere inaccessible. Decided not to make such a stupid mistake again.
Nochek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:41:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a sign of possible schizophrenia in your later years. You may consider going and getting a gene check in 20 years.
BananaHammock74 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:17:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds legit, however a person I know who has a mental illness didn't walk like that until after he was on heavy meds.
louiseG ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Putin doesn't move his right arm when he walks,,,a mark of the KGB
And short steps, not swinging arms often an early sign of Parkinsonism
Splendidissimus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually consciously stopped moving my arms when I walk because I read it burns more calories (because it's less efficient, I suppose). So that's what I think of every time I see someone not moving their arms while they walk.
Psudopod ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:42:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people over exaggerate the arm swing since they want to burn more calories. See: middle aged women power-walking. It is just another tool to tune how you go through your calories.
notreallyswiss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think u/Splendidissimus meant it burns more calories to NOT swing your arms because...I'm not sure, but it makes sense. Maybe a non-arm swinger is not taking advantage of the free energy that momentum gives you, or maybe it is just harder to balance without an arm swing so you have to engage your core muscles. Though power walking with an exaggerated arm-swing may burn more calories simply through shame because it makes you look like such a doofus. I mean, i dont power walk but I do look like a doofus, i feel, quite a lot of the time and I'm skinny, so? Maybe I should market this....
Psudopod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, that does make more sense, I think?
Call Dr Oz, let's get this fad diet on the road. Doofus diet. Guaranteed to make you shed pounds!*
*with diet and exercise
MictlanTeaParty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if it's one arm? I don't move my right arm when I walk. I always have to think about doing it, so it doesn't look weird.
OP_IS_A_BASSOON ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't supposed to tell him. We all agreed. Why couldn't you just follow along
butterscotches ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like Racquel Welch.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never did walk with my arms until my mother put me down day after day saying I looked like a retarded neandrathal. I started to force myself to walk "normally."
I guess there might be some correlation between this and mental illness. I have anxiety and depression problems, and dissociative identity, along with other minor things like horrid chewing misphonia and tinnitus (but I doubt tinnitus is a mental disorder).
DarkStar5758 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:29:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only move one of my arms when I walk. I've been told I look like a soldier with an invisible rifle before. No idea how that would fit into that study.
audreyfbird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The one I've heard with good research behind it is that people who have early-stage Parkinsons (often undiagnosed) tend to move one arm a lot less than the other while walking.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Now_You_Did ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:30:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The only thing that comes up when I search is that it could possibly be an early sign of Parkinson's disease. I should have saved it.
Edit: Best I could find at the moment for why we normally swing our arms: http://phys.org/news/2009-07-limb-arm-swinging-riddle.html
Ootsdogg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lack of arm swing is a symptom of Parkinson's. Not very likely in a young person. Not a mental illness either.
BethWNYX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL I have a mental illness.
Seriously though...why would I move my arms, unless I was speedwalking or something.
Wasitgoodforyoutoo ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:27:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they just don't swing their arms around because it looks stupid
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:34:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have bad news for you.
Wasitgoodforyoutoo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:08:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? So sashaying around like a gorilla looks good?
red-bot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:56:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is very true. I still have to actively think about it to keep it.
paladin10025 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:02:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god that made me laughed, assuming you were not actually being abused. If so, then my apologies.
LetsHarmonize ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:12:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're good. I wasn't. I was just really shy and walked weird.
paladin10025 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:32:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all go through those phases. Sometimes someone just needs to point out what we are doing. I bit my nails for years - with my parents of course trying to get me to stop. One day in junior high someone mentioned something about my cuticles and I more or less stopped biting my nails immediately. Its like I didn't think anyone noticed, but then realized probably everyone noticed.
Gimegkos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a Seinfeld joke in there somewhere
OverlordAlex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rewr!
LibCat93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone approached me in 8th grade and said she was afraid of me because I never moved my arms when I walked. She said she thought I might be possessed by a demon. I was severely depressed. I tried to make an effort to move my arms after that. And to smile, even if I was putting on a fake one.
Jerlko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Some kid at school told me he thinks I have an abusive home life."
"Well, who are we to argue with 8th graders."
LetsHarmonize ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol. I can see how you might think that, but it was more like playful teasing than abuse. My dad tries to give constructive criticism, but he kinda just sounds like an ass. It's partially his voice though. Obnoxious, loud Mexican guy whose normal speaking voice sounds like he's yelling at you (I'm not exaggerating). My brother and I poke fun at each other.
angrypunishment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit me too. I thought I didn't "need" to swing my arms while walking so I just held them firmly at my sides. I did this for years and was teased immensely. When I finally started swinging my arms it was so weird. Like a bipedal baby deer.
Roboticsammy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Youre just like my brother. He walks around with his shoulders slumped and never moves his arms. He just lets them dangle. He's also 16, and we keep telling him to fix it.
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be nice to him about it. Maybe even help him out and tell him you're doing it cause you care about him. Fix it soon though.
Roboticsammy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We have, for years. He talks back a lot, really sassy, and he barely does any work and he just plays video games mostly
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does he at least realize how silly he looks walking like that? You can try recording him if he doesn't.
Does he ever go out or have friends over? Next time he wants to hang out, have your parents tell him he has to do work first. I was kind of a bratty teenager like him and that worked for me. If that doesn't work just threaten to take his gaming console.
Roboticsammy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, he does. And he's got friends. He's just lazy and a big dick when it comes to that
Kevlarsocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Raquel Welch?
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked her up to find out who she was. Sadly, I'm not her.
kaoD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My SO had this exact same problem. She's got scoliosis. Maybe you have/had back problems too?
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was tested for it in 8th grade and was fine, so I doubt it. I don't have any unusual back pain.
ReptiRo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I slouched a lot in school (mostly when sitting) because i was so much taller than my classmates. I still slouch it actually hurts me to sit correctly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, my brother and mom used to make fun of me when I was kid, my posture was so crappy when I walked they called me Shaggy (as in Scooby-Doo shaggy). Take a look at that dude walk its the epitome of shitty posture.
A-Grey-World ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who didn't move their arms much. It was strange. Guessed it was as a result of bullying. Didn't help with the bullying. But then, sods law, not much that bullying does to you doesn't help you not get bullied.
HeroGothamKneads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who was abused often as a child, this is a very difficult habit to break. I just feel so... meek.
LetsHarmonize ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand in front of the mirror and push out your chest. Twist your back and repeat. Stretch and move your arms out while doing this. It won't fix your posture, but it'll help a bit. Try to look forward more often. I still catch myself staring straight down when I eat.
Have you been able to talk about your abuse? If it still bothers you a lot, it'd be a good idea to see a professional about it.
mrcantrell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
LetsHarmonize ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. As you can see from the other replies to my comment, lots of people had the bad habits I described. Eric isn't the only one.
tirmanadir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was never as bad as that, but I sometimes accidentally stop moving my arms when I'm walking. What's really awkward is when I become aware of how I'm walking and suddenly it's impossible to watch normally.
paulker123 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:57:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not swinging or moving your arms while walking is a symptom of autism and you post on reddit, I think they're is a prettyy high chance. Sorry.
LetsHarmonize ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I looked at the symptoms and some of them fit, but these didn't: I'm not bad at social cues (maybe not good either, but not bad), I understand other people's points of view very well, and have high empathy.
Edit: I also don't plan schedules or have checklists.
[deleted] ยท 720 points ยท Posted at 17:09:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm an archaeologist, I cannot not look at the ground when I walk, that's where you find stuff. Not just artifacts mind you, sometimes it's money. I found a baggie of coke not too long ago...didn't fuck with it though. Also found a geocache without GPS or coordinates due to this habit. I'd say over the last 3 years I've found around 200 dollars by just looking at the ground.
[deleted] ยท 445 points ยท Posted at 17:42:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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lakashhar ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:37:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, all I found was a very dirty crumpled piece of paper meant to look like a $100 bill. Instead you opened it and it told you about Jesus while experiencing crippling disappointment.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:52:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SuperFLEB ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:21:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For maximum irony, is there a $100 fine?
TheGreatRandolph ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:16:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found $100 one time when I badly needed it for glasses, after mine got broken and were held together with tape. Years later I lost $100. I'm even now, and good with that. No archeology involved!
retarredroof ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:02:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Archaeologist here also, but retired now. Found a fifty once and one twenty. I find a lot of tools, coins and other shit. I can tell you soil type and color almost everywhere I go. This has no practical utility to me at all, but I do it just the same.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, yeah the internal dialogue of 'that's some nice 10yr4/3 Silty clay loam right there." Though TBH, I couldn't do that anywhere I go, I have yet to have the need to consult the red and funky blue hues yet though I have encountered them in my travels.
retarredroof ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, it takes me a while in a new place, but it's within a week usually. The differences between the intermountain west, Cascade mountains, and northwest coast are amazing. I'm still addicted to the Roadside Geology series and look at it before day trips.
SuperFLEB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With that set of skills, I bet you never step in dog shit, either.
Now I'm envious.
berlin_chair_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found a very crisp, new $100 as I slumped to my low paying job. I find a lot of coins too - for candies and gin!
Lo_Rez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It belongs in a MUSEUM!
easyroscoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me as well. We are different people right?
Mathwards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So how much time needs to pass before grave robbing and just stealing shit you find in the ground becomes "Archaeology"?
red-bot ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 17:47:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck Confidence; Get Money. You do you, man!
Illogical1612 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just doing you too
desertsail912 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:29:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do a ton of arch survey too, I have a little box of single earrings that I've found over the years.
Kevin_Uxbridge ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:05:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing how good you can get at scanning without breaking stride. And I'm completely unable to pass by a plowed field or excavation, especially if it's rained recently. Stuff turns up, I have to go look.
desertsail912 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:44:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My family uses me to find stuff too, had an aunt drop a ring in the front yard, she enlisted me. I rolled my eyes but I did find it :)
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you mean earrings that you find during surveys or just walking in general? Golfballs are my reoccurring object that always seems to be present during surveys. That and clay-pigeon fragments. The only earrings I've found while working were lying next to a skull.
desertsail912 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:35:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't really surveyed in years, aside from a few small linear surveys here and there and yes, unless I'm really trying to observe my surroundings, like I'm in a bookstore or grocery store or a new city, I'm always looking at the ground. Was that skull found during an excavation?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:53:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a late 19th century / early 20th century cemetery excavation in Indiana. Very good preservation despite the low quality of coffin construction and material (it was in association with a hospital, so these individuals had no family and/or were too poor to afford conventional burials and were thus buried on hospital grounds by staff. The cemetery was forgotten until construction workers found them.
desertsail912 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Creepy, were the clothes still preserved?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really and here is where I get confused and my ignorance shows. My forensic PI could likely explain it thoroughly, but I never thought to ask: The skeletons in Indiana were well seemingly intact but their clothing was long gone, which often seems the case, however, when I have worked with bodies with little to no preservation (the skeletons are gone or crumbling) the clothing is more often intact. It's like a strange trade off that has to do with soil acidity I'm sure, but I can't say for sure.
desertsail912 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:42:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soil chemistry, amount of water/dampness, etc, bunch of factors to consider. Yeah, where I work the bones just turn to dust because the soil is so basic, as opposed to acidic.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:50:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah water can do some crazy stuff to bones. I thought I had a skull once that showed signs of osteological trauma or disease, but when I pointed the deformations out to the PI, she explained a sort of "bioturbation" that occurs with bones exposed to water. Essentially water can cause postmortem constriction and expansion of bone marrow that leaves the skull looking pretty gnarly, though not necessarily decayed.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:53:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always look under the bar when ordering drinks. It's amazing how much money drunk people will drop on the ground and not realize it.
muddyrose ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:40:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have found so much money doing this!
Funny_People ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:08:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Further to this.. If I don't look at the ground when I walk then I usually stumble or something because I'm unbalanced and the uneven ground throws me off!
HumanlyScientific ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:13:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: astronomers are more attractive than archaeologists.
StuffyKnows2Much ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
May I have your baggie of cocaine, sir?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:46:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's in Alabama. Snorting what is likely very highly cut cocaine would probably leave you feeling pretty dirty during the comedown. Snorting highly cut coke that you found by the stop sign in the ghetto of a small town in Alabama would just hurt your soul.
TmickyD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Geology student here. Im the same way. I always manage to find the best stuff on field trips because no one ever looks down. I found a 300myo calamite fossil just sitting in the middle od the trail. Everyone else walked over it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You still got that coke? Asking for a friend here.
anacabana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is always finding things. Money, jewelry he's found checks. When my siblings and I were kids our parents would take us on walks every Saturday and we would make a game out of who could find the most money. My sister and I still do this sometimes. She find $20 at Golden Gate National park in San Francisco not too long ago.
Mint_Berry_Cruuunch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure people will look past your posture once they find out your Indiana Jones
macsb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carry on, sir. Carry on.
spacebird_matingcall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Groundscores are the best. I aways look down when walking around music festivals
Legion991 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are there so many archaeologists on Reddit? I didn't get the memo we were having a meeting here.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because we live in hotels in rural areas and this is our way to stay in contact with the outside world. duh.
choss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The highest amount I found was $40 that fell from someone(s) on the street and landed in a sleeping homeless man's hat. I couldn't believe it, it was a great day for sure!
Ghitit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always look at the ground for the same reason. I found $20.00 once because I was looking at the ground. I've probably seen $200.00 in pennies but I never pick them up. I leave them for those who need them.
always8bit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$200, not bad, you doubled your yearly income.
..says another career archaeologist. who is still poor, after all these years.
noobaddition ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well when the biggest online job market is called shovelbums, it's not surprising that archaeologists walk around looking for spare change.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the truth.
uwila ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not an archaeologist, but a "treasure" hunter. There are so many nifty things that people walk right past. But I find in general, people seem to neglect the world around them as they move through it.
zmansman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are a highly skilled ground-watcher as opposed to those other lay people who do it and don't find anything cool.
cocobear13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worked for Charlie Bucket and Sara Crewe...
SilverNeptune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know it was coke?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a really good time in Central America in my early 20s.
rangersparta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found a bag of hash once lol.
cream-of-cow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You remind me of the guy in NYC who pores over the sidewalk in the jewelry district looking for precious gems and metals. http://nypost.com/2011/06/20/got-his-mined-in-the-gutter/
DrSuviel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL people with archaeology degrees aren't unemployed because there are so few archaeology jobs. It's because they find so much money on the ground they don't need to work!
Ergo_Propter_Hoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know you can scan the ground ahead of you instead of looking straight at the ground at your feet, right?
Killerglare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The scavenger in me is strong. I always find money and drugs and cool things.
Apkoha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I too found a baggie of coke and did fuck with it, and that's how I found out it wasn't coke.
Plazm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like your career lies in ruins.
motherpluckin-feisty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a geology/mineral enthusiast. Every photo of me on holidays is looking at the ground and/or examining rocks....
TheJunkyard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't fuck with that shit, no sir. Snorted that shit right up.
Proclaim_the_Name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One day I was cleaning up metal that was lying in the street using a magnet. So, I was looking at the ground a lot. I covered a couple miles of road, picking up about a couple pounds of junk metal. I looked in a patch of dirt and saw something that looked like a button. I picked it up and it turned out to be a Los Angeles train token from 1929. I live about 20 miles from Los Angeles too. I wonder how long that token had been sitting on the ground like that, everyday people passing by.
centerflag982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you walk that people drop money all the time? I can't even remember the last time I've come across more than a nickel
thewizardmerlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just curious, but how did you know it was coke?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a lot of fun in my early 20's.
solinaceae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I love finding gift cards, metro cards, etc. it's like an Easter egg hunt !
PhoneJazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must live in a major city I'm guessing.
Splinter1010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much coke?
Jethr0Paladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once found and stole a Geocache this way.
Still need to replace it. I know where it was supposed to be.
Flywolfpack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Money and cocaine is made by man. Therefore artifacts. They belong in a museum!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found 75 cents today. #winning
tejaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have found a total of $180 in my life (so far) by looking at the ground. Also found a twenty in with the cabbages in the produce section once, but I'm not counting that since I didn't have to look down to find it.
DoesntUnderstandJoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found a bone, can you examine it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Entomologist here. I'm either looking down at the ground 90% of the time, or up in the air the other 10%. Rare is the time I look straight ahead.
SouthAussie94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surveyor here. It's the exact same thing for me. There's so much information just sitting there on the ground; nails, pins, spikes, paint, service location markers. If you look up you'll miss all of this!!
AlphaBetaParkingLot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My two loves are Geology and Astronomy so I usually compromise by just looking straight ahead.
wojar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nothing to do with this thread, but how do you become an archaeologist!
CptJeanLucPeculiar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah! I've found loads of money, two gold rings and lots of sterling silver, earrings mostly, which is cool because I am a silver smith. My favorite find is a 24K gold ring I found in a cemetery. Spooky.
Flight714 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope: Onto the mirror, raked into a few neat lines, and straight up the nostrilsโno fucking around waiting for trouble.
Dhrakyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine that you prioritize finding stuff on the ground over your appearance, that's good! But it isn't what this thread is about.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:02:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's where you find stuff but miss all the people. And even if you see them, they miss you. That's the trade off. You end up a lonely collector of neat stuff.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't say that's how its worked out for me. I landed a hot professor, have plenty of friends and would consider myself an extrovert. I don't need to exude confidence to the random strangers on the side walk.
Doomchicken7 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:21:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What archaeology is there to be done in the US? It's a fairly young country, there can't be too much to excavate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you being serious? There is over 10'000 years of human occupation in North America.
Doomchicken7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but most of it was by tribes of natives without permanent settlements.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google North American prehistoric archaeology.
FrostyD7 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:42:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I think I would pay $60 a year to not have shitty posture and look worse while walking.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have shitty posture though.
Keinichn ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 17:39:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Walk like you own the place. It has the bonus effect of getting people out of your way when you look like you're walking with purpose.
coachjanui ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:27:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this by myself when I started catching the subway everyday to work. When you act determined and with a good posture, people just dodge you like you're the president, it's crazy.
The con is that here in my region there is a lot of ignorant and uneducated people who are able to see that you're not going to stop and bump you on purpose so they can try to pick a fight. It's ridiculous, already happened to me several times, but it's more of a third world problem, really.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:58:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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coachjanui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually no, you can see the guy is a dickhead just by the way he walks and looks at you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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coachjanui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I exaggerated a little on that one. And that's what really happens, sometimes you just move a little to get out of the way.
But posture avoids most of the dodging tho, I literally used to walk like a drunk bastard to avoid people before I started to keep an eye on my posture.
Keinichn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen people like that as well. I just keep walking. I'm not gonna stop for some stranger who bumped into me. Same reason I don't even acknowledge the presence of a beggar when they call out to me.
coachjanui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just avoid stress. I already have an office job and crowded trains to get through.
livinglikearedditor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this when working retail and the shoppers would never move for me. Started walking like I was going to knock them over if they didn't move and everyone just naturally made room for me.
Keinichn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I used to work retail as well and it helped then. I still do it when I'm in a crowded area. It can look a bit...suspicious sometimes depending on what you're wearing, but it gets the job done.
AptCasaNova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're smaller, this has mixed results.
wildbluyawnder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, more loose change for me. I find about $20 - $40 a year in loose change on the ground.
SmartAlec105 ยท 582 points ยท Posted at 16:53:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm guilty of staring at the ground while walking but that's mostly because of a compulsion I have to walk on the ground in patterns.
For each tile of sidewalk or section of brick, I have to step on it first with my right foot and end with my left (so that I'll start the next one with my right).
If the sections of brick are divided by something, I can not step on the bricks that are cut off which usually means I take a strangely long stride around there.
Corners of tiles and stuff like that shoot off imaginary lines that I can't step on but if two of those lines intersect, then they create a new imaginary line that is angled so it's in between them. So if one was shooting NE and the other was shooting NW, the new line would shoot N since that is in between those two directions.
I can sometimes get myself to ignore these compulsions if they get too annoying so it's not a big enough problem that I'd go to a doctor and see if I can be diagnosed with something.
EDIT: Yeah, it's a lot like OCD but I won't call it that unless I get it diagnosed because I don't like it when people are all "lol I'm like so OCD". I won't get it diagnosed because it's not worth it. If you do any of these too, let me know which ones rather than just saying "same".
[deleted] ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 16:59:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. Except my pattern is to average out the length of my stride according to the length of the tiles so that I don't step on any lines.
syntax_killer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:09:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My feet have to hit cracks at the same spot on each foot, and if I miss the right spot, I have to hit that spot on my other foot in addition to the other.
factoid_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:05:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I suspect lots of people have this to different degrees. I feel this in a very real way. If instep on a Crack with one foot the other for feels uneven until I step on a Crack with that one.
But unlike many people who feel this compulsion much more strongly, I can basically turn it off any time I want. I can just stop doing it and walk naturally and the feeling doesn't make me go crazy or feel weird other than it takes a minute to completely forget about it.
I think this is one of those things everyone feels to some extent but never talks about because they think it makes them sound crazy
syntax_killer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:44:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, if it's conscious, I'm more inclined to do it, but not a compulsion.
NoGoodIDNames ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know exactly what you mean, except I do it with crossing lines. Stepping on lines feels wrong. I feel like it's some sort of really low-key OCD. I can't turn it off just by not doing it, it's like the whole "manual breathing" thing. The best cure I have is to just stop looking at the ground.
factoid_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:24:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I feel it with lines too, but it is more pronounced with cracks where there is a physical sensation drawing my attention to it
shit_lord ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One foot has to hit the line on the heel and the other foot has to hit the line with the toe.
sjog ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:11:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would drive me crazy. I would feel it through the soles of my shoes and it would feel off all day. I would have to hit the heel and toe of the corresponding feet to make it even.
MuzikPhreak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds pretty exhausting, honestly, trying to keep all that straight.
no-mad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now, I got to do them all.
sjog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There have been a few days where, on the way home from work, I correct a step on a crack from the way to work.
shit_lord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Story of my life and if it's not perfect gotta even it on the next one.
Doctective ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom's back must be rekt.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was waiting for this. I don't usually do it, but if I take notice of stepping on the crack, then I have to.
VanTil ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:02:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying not to break your mother's back?
derp6667 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His father's spine
WilcoRoZ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:41:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same. My brain is sorta lenient in that if it's a longer tile I can go right-left-right on a tile, as long as I go left-right-left on the next haha. So sometimes I can avoid those awkward long strides that make people you're walking with look at you funny
purple_wagon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I used to do was only allow the arch of my foot to land directly over the line so it would feel as if I hadn't stepped on the line, but then I had the compulsion to make sure my right and left arches both stepped on exactly the same number of lines by the end of each city block.
mist91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tend to try to not step on lines by making my heel just touch it. Not on the line but not completely avoiding it either
elora_danan_og ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm I avoid the cracks/sidewalk breaks but don't change stride length. Might need to give that a go as I often end up with repeated awkwardly small steps. I also do not step on thresholds.
ColinAllCarz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The lines are lava.
letstalkphysics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god. This started as a game for me when I was younger (maybe 8 or so), and now it's... well, it's more than a game now. Now I concentrate really hard on it, and plan routes meticulously to prepare.
Gogoliath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine's similar, but my feet do have to touch the lines that divides the sections of the sidewalk. Specially if it's a 3-step tile, I have to touch the lines!
StayFrostyOscarMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
me also!
myrden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I also go right foot left foot across the lines sometimes.
computeraddict ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:29:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine was always starting a staircase with my right foot and ending it with my left. If there were an odd number of stairs, I would double step on either the first or second-to-last (can't remember anymore). Eventually I stopped caring about which foot I ended with, but I still typically start staircases with my right foot.
Mr_Self__Destruct ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 16:56:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I was the only one...
randomlightning ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 16:59:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On reddit, you are never the only one.
knottylazygrunt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless everyone is a bot
Talono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's something only a bot would say.
Felcleave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's something comforting about nothing being unique. Nearly every thought, action, and feeling is likely shared with hundreds or thousands of people in the world. Only our specific blend of characteristics are what make us unique as people.
kman273 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
unless u like Joffrey. like as a person. then ur fucked.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved Joffrey. Jack Gleeson nailed that role.
kman273 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea, which is y i meant joffrey the person.
Irishwolf93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to hate him. Does that count?
Gruntingmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was going to think of something that possibly only one person would think of including juggling, maths equations and sex with a unicorn, but couldn't be bothered.
Talono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With some stipulations, http://i.imgur.com/NOECI0s.gif
oighen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know plenty of math students that juggle, there's bound to be one with a unicorn fetish.
Charwinger21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there was that one guy who ate a "Jolly Rancher". I think he was alone on that one.
civilian11214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are not a special snowflake.
Mr_Self__Destruct ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:(
dont_be_douchebigado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are DOZENS of us!
Birdyer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! And on tiled floors my foot needs to step at an exact 45 degree angle to the edges of the tiles (from corner to corner) and step on each tile once.
fluke_skywalker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've done something very similar to this as long as I can remember. When you go up a flight of stairs, do you try to always start on the right and end on the left as well? I also count my steps in groups of 4, not sure why but that's the reason 4 has been my favorite number since I was a kid. I tried to explain all of this to a girlfriend once, but I got off topic into a rant about why 4 is the perfect number.
Now the game stays in my head.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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-3point14159-mp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You both physically pain me. Groups of 5. Volumes, steps, objects. All have to be a multiple of 5. 3 is ok sometimes, depending on what it is, but never for volume. Volume always has to be on a multiple of 5.
Silent-G ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Steps for me have to be even, so that the next set of steps always starts on one foot/side and ends on the other. Volume, quantity, mass, etc. need to be in multiples of 5.
ColorYouClingTo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also count all my steps in groups of four!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WTF I've done this all my life
mcfleury1000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/245/
flexmuzik ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hello, long lost twin.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, I can't do that ever. I feel this compulsion to start each sidewalk tile with a different foot. It's so awkward, I have to do this little shuffle thing.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your mind naturally makes a playground out of something as minute as walking, doesn't sound like something to diagnose :)
Adarain ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:28:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It always depends. I had a phase like that as a kid and it was terrible. It was completely irrational and I knew it, but I couldn't stop it and I kept inventing new rules. I don't remember how I got over it. I probably eventually had the brilliant idea to disallow walking in a weird manner or so.
If this were still going on, it would be a significant impediment to my daily life. It's not like the funny floor is lava. It's more like the real one.
frig_darn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still do weird pattern stuff, but most of the time it's harmless. When I was little, though, I had this thing I did with my fingers that I started prioritizing over other tasks. It got bad enough that I would carry stuff around with my wrists because I didn't want to stop doing the finger-thing. Eventually grew out of it, but yeah, it can get bad.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just used to trip a lot. I always need to be aware of where I'm placing my feet.
Deliziosax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Used to?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seem to have grown into my feet and got my shit together
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to stare at the ground because I might find something fun. Or I'm just clumsy and want to avoid any hazards
faze47 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your post really gets me, cause of how precisely you described your habits. You also asked to tell you about similar experiences, but not the same, so I thought I would share.
I have an obsession with some numbers. In particular, 4 and 7 and all variations with them: 11 (4+7), 28 (4ร7), 47 (you know), 16 (1+6=7). It is a whole lot of them, but I try to follow them everywhere like a maniac. I set the volume and brightness on my phone exactly within them, I try to look at the clock when it is time with them and so on in every part of my life.
I usually walk just like you but with an extension: I try to walk exact amount of steps between tiles, on wet and dry parts of the road and such. I think you know what I mean. Basically same as you but with steplimit. It fucks up my walking so hard but I'm so used to it I can't not do it.
I don't know why I wrote it, but I felt really connected. And now I'm afraid I may really have OCD. I haven't heard of it before, but after some googling I started to worry.
SmartAlec105 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You haven't heard of OCD before? It's one of the more well known ones. As long as it isn't really interfering with your life then there's no need to look in to it but if you feel like it would give you some peace of mind, go for it.
InFactaPerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I have something very similar to that. I do it in multiples of five with every new surface I step on starting with the left and ending with the right. So when I step on the road I either need to take 10 steps or 20 or 30 and so on. Then when I walk on the grass the same thing starting with my left again. It used to be just multiples of five but now I feel the need to start on left and end on right for the sake of evenness.
I'm able to ignore it from time to time when I need to and so I don't have to do the funny hop and a skip to fix my steps if I didn't approximate right on how many I'd need to cross a surface. And yeah, it does go to other things such as volume and how many times I press a certain button but for fives instead. Reading sentences too. If I find what I read to not meet my multiple of five rule in syllables I go read something else to try and complete it.
I do wonder sometimes if it's something I need to worry about and maybe it's using a lot of my brain power or something to think about these things. I dunno. At the very least it's interesting to see that other people have things similar.
rbaltimore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Therapist here. That is a compulsive behavior, but compulsive behavior is just the 'C' in OCD. There has to be an obsessive thought pattern as well. People with OCD act out the compulsive behaviors because, in the short term, they are a way of coping with high levels of anxiety brought on by obsessive thought patterns. In the long term, however, the compulsive behavior encourages the obsessions to continue.
It's unusual for compulsive behaviors to show up on their own in otherwise normal individuals, but it can happen.
You need to reach out for help when these obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviors take over your life. I was diagnosed with OCD three years ago. It took a long time to catch because I have what used to be called 'cognitive compulsive' OCD. That is to say, I have no outward compulsive behaviors. My compulsive behavior is to compulsively worry, overanalyze things, and by compulsively hypervigilant in a few areas of my life. On the surface, that looks like straight up anxiety. It wasn't until I sought out some therapy for the anxiety that I realized I actually had OCD.
With some medication and hard work, I got my life back. I'm a much happier person.
SmartAlec105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually thought about just calling it CD since I don't seem to have the O. I've already determined that I'd get help if it ever progressed to where it was starting to take over my life (that's the D part in OCD, right? If so then I guess I'd just call what I have C). It's cool to receive your input on this, thanks.
rbaltimore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem. It's highly likely that you have an O, it's rare in developmentally normal persons to have just the C. That would mean you do have OCD, but if it's not interfering with your life, then we would call that 'subclinical'. If it isn't impacting the quality of your life or interfering with your ADL (activities of daily living), then it's clinically insignificant and it's functionally the same as a personality quirk.
Just out of curiosity - what happens when you make a mistake or are for some reason forced to walk 'normally.' Or, as Peter Griffin would say, does it make you feel feelings?
People put a lot of stock in the doing of the C, but what happens when you can't do the C is something to pay attention to as well. What happens to a germaphobe if they don't have a sink/soap/hand cleaner/towels? What happens to the hoarder when you throw their stuff away and don't let them accumulate anymore? What happens to the anorexic if you don't allow them to control their own food intake? I'm guessing that in your case, you don't have any negative effects from not walking like that, but in a person with clinically significant OCD, it throws their entire world into chaos. That's what makes OCD tricky to treat - however maladaptive, the C is a coping mechanism, and people can be terrified of getting rid of the only thing they've even known to work. As they say, the devil you know . . .
SmartAlec105 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I do mess up it's more of just a weak "darn" feeling. Nothing feels wrong for more than a few seconds. If I mess up a few times in a row or I'm going over a more difficult section of ground then I just say "fuck it" and ignore it and walk with a normal stride. I'll still recognize when I mess up but it just doesn't bother me then.
InFactaPerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I get that too. It's almost like a game and a boss was thrown at you when you were unset leveled and not in the right frame of mind. Sometimes for me it can weigh over my conscience for a few hours if I mess it up while trying to get it right. I always forget it over time but for a while it just feels off and unbalanced.
Edit: Thinking on it, that's also probably why I made the rule where I'd I don't step using my whole foot out doesn't count. It helps when I need to fix my steps real quick and don't want to look too word so I kinda just tippy toe my way through hah.
rbaltimore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, unless it gets worse, it doesn't sound like there is any reason to be evaluated by a mental health professional (although bear in mind I'm just some stranger on the internet.) Like I said, statistically speaking, you probably do have an O somewhere in there, but trying to identifying it is a waste of your time right now. As one of my colleagues used to say, "Not everything needs a cause. Some things just are there." (He's a Buddhist, which was great to have in a colleague, it was a neat viewpoint to hear).
bearcat88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Total panic attack and emotional loss like mourning and anger if you toss out a hoarders things.
rbaltimore ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:44:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not the commenter that I asked that question too, and I couldn't find a similar comment in the thread from you about similar symptoms, but if you have the same compulsive behaviors (or any compulsive behaviors) and your mind's response when you can't carry it out is what you described above, you absolutely need to be evaluated by a therapist.
bearcat88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:10 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not writing about myself, I am writing about my experience when I have attempted to help out hoarders.
rbaltimore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:57:01 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, okay. Yes, hoarding is a pretty extreme example of OCD. I don't think people realize this, they think they can just throw everything away and the hoarder will be fine. They have no idea how traumatizing this can be, and that without therapy, it will be a cycle that happens over and over.
In what capacity did you work with hoarders?
bearcat88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:52 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friends and relatives that I've helped out.
Aznflipfoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I usually have to step in the center of something right left left right. all while sometimes adhering to some of those rules that you have yourself. And sometimes I make the pattern go bigger. So we normally go with R LL R L RR L L RR L R LL R.
SmartAlec105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally have that same pattern so I know exactly what you're talking about. But I usually arrange it into groups of 4 like
RLLR-LRRL-LRRL-RLLR LRRL-RLLR-RLLR-LRRL LRRL-RLLR-RLLR-LRRL RLLR-LRRL-LRRL-RLLR
It's easier to keep track of it when you think of it in fours. I usually just twitch my thumbs to fulfill the pattern. But I used to sometimes do it with my fingers with each finger doing one twitch, then pinkies at the same time, then I do it with my hands, biceps, forearms, thighs, and calves, followed by sucking my gut in, pushing it out, and then flexing my abs. I haven't done it in a while though.
Aznflipfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I must not have explained it as well, because my pattern is always in groups of 4's. You do a small group of 4, then that becomes one fourth of the new bigger group of 4's and so on and so forth depending how stupid I get. Basically you just described how I do it.
Juodaan_Viinaa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ. That third bullet point... It is as if you were me describing exactly what I do. I thought that I was the only one who did that!
Also, I always have to leave a margin of around 3 cm between my feet and those imaginary lines.
ghostdate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same thing and have a couple of anxiety related problems, which OCD is, but I wouldn't classify it as OCD either. It's not so much a compulsion as more like a game to entertain myself while I'm walking somewhere.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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SmartAlec105 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:06:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's like the difference between going to the doctor for blood loss and going to the doctor for a nosebleed. It's not really a problem for me but if it does get worse I'll look into it.
BNNJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Colors, shapes, height of everything on the floor used to make the ministry of silly walks stamp me with their seal of approval.
I also counted letters in the sentences i read, wrote, heard or spoke.
Few other things concerning urban landscapes. And then some more.
I all went away progressively. But i still walk silly from time to time, for nostalgia's sake.
SmartAlec105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing I do is when I'm riding shotgun in a car, I focus my eyes on the road or trees so that I see two images of a particularly noticeable spot on the windshield. Then I move my head around so that both images always pass over objects like signs, telephone polls, and cars; I can't let one touch something and the other not touch it. Also they have to go all the way through the object.
BNNJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to store in my mind the shapes of things i encountered and play a mental tetris.
SmartAlec105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear that when kids with Turrets Syndrome go to this one summer camp for TS kids, they often trade tics so the parents have to deal with entirely new ones. I wonder if something similar might happen in this thread.
Tinfoilpain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats OCD all right...
raven_procellous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't compare yourself to other people: the only question you need to ask is whether it causes distress to you. The definition of a 'disorder' is something that causes you distress or interferes with your life negatively. When I finally looked up the symptoms of OCD online, I found quite a few that I related to that were causing me a lot of distress. Previously I had been afraid to attribute OCD to myself for the same basic reason you stated, but ultimately it was helpful to self-diagnose as having OCD, even though it's comparatively mild. I can now see when I am behaving obsessively or compulsively and stop before it gets stressful (there's a great guide for how to stop OCD thoughts on this page). It might be worthwhile for you to check for other symptoms online. (My own distressing symptoms are not being able to stop an activity without 'finishing' e.g. can't stop playing a video game until this quest line is over, and obsessive ruminations.)
SmartAlec105 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have and since it doesn't it's fine. I personally think it's just really mild OCD.
ideababy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So that's not helpful for anything. I advise you get over it.
loller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I often find myself hopping just so my right foot will land on the next crack and my pace won't be thrown off. Been doing it since I was a kid. My other weird compulsions have all mostly disappeared.
rustleman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn your walking process sounds way more fun than mine.
TheFuckNameYouWant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the whole "gotta step over the lines" thing. Doesn't matter which foot, as long as I don't step on the lines. And when there's brick (I live in the city lots of brick sidewalks) then I have to cover a whole brick and two lines with each step.
Weird, maybe. A little compulsive, sure. OCD, not even close. What people with OCD suffer from is FAR greater than my little compulsions with the sidewalk.
horrorshowmalchick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see all kinds of interesting things on the ground. Frogs, money, the odd small bag of cocaine. The pavement is your oyster.
yotambien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If i see square tiles on the ground, you better believe im stepping the movement pattern of a knight on a chessboard
DaveGilmour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you me?! Holy crap, anyone I've confided in about this thought I was nuts. Is there a name for this specific idiosynchracy?
cacanova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to end sections with my right foot, although this isn't as big of a deal to me as ending sets of stairs with my right foot, which has lead me to waste an enormous amount of my time memorizing how many steps various staircases I frequently use have.
Esspressing_Myself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my gosh I do this too..maybe we have an overactive imagination?
RoyMBar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to take an even number of steps on each tile, going so far as to take an extra baby step at the end of tiles if necessary.
rauer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the projected lines thing and the rules about which foot to use, but my rules are left foot for up (up a curb or up from tile onto carpet, etc) and right foot for down.
APoorEstimate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I can't tell you how comforting it is to hear this described. Mine is different but the same: If my foot lands on the crack i have to land on the next crack with the opposite foot in the same section of my foot. If I don't I have to fix the fraction over the course of the next few steps. Additionally, Power lines make geometric patterns but I don't have time to explain.
37 years old, no diagnosis. No need.
Deliziosax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any other compulsions besides these? And any other interferences with daily life?
SmartAlec105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The biggest interference I've gotten is I stopped playing a JRPG because my character's experience totals got way out of balance and there was nothing I could do to fix it.
apoco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I count my steps.
I know that on my walk into work, for one section of the side walk, I fit in 4 steps/4 steps/3 steps for each pad of concrete. For the next section with longer concrete pads I fit in 6 steps if I'm in a rush and taking long strides, 7 steps otherwise.
I always make sure to not step on the lines, even if that means having one stride that is only half length. I try to keep the steps per square consistent.
Ks427236 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can be more out of habit than a diagnosable medical issue like ocd. Yeah its annoying when people say things offhand like "lol I'm so ocd", many people with ocd absolutely SUFFER from it. Affects day to day living, social interaction and overall health and wellbeing.
Tl;dr- props for knowing the difference between a genuine compulsion and something you tend to do
ibby_kinibby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a habit (wouldn't call it a compulsion necessarily) to walk and step with my heel directly on the crack. Specifically sidewalks. Although, that is likely from being in marching band in high school. I still do it and can hear the beat in my head with my pace too.
TheGenocides ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like sometimes I have an unnatural compulsion to say "same"
captenplanet90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same type of stuff. I don't "have" to do it though. It's just fun to play little games like that sometimes
littlenymphy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the pattern allows I have to fit my foot exactly within the pattern length.
e.g if the pavement is bricked and the bricks are about as long as my foot then I need to step on an individual brick each time.
altair3feb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you did it for fun at first, because that's why I do it.
FunkMasterPope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do this! I finally got myself over it, goddamn was it hard to do
jaybusch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I move like a knight on small square tiles in the kitchen. I started it as a joke because of xkcd, now I do it subconsciously. Helps that it fits my natural gait.
NabiscoLobstrosity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do that. It became annoying, so instead I started planning steps to intentionally hit the parts I previously tried to avoid. Instead of picking between hitting and avoiding, I think of the spaces as different categories, all of which can be hit. I try to set a pattern that matches my normal walk.
The only time this doesn't work is with the seam on treadmill belts. Fuck those things, they are always off-pace.
sjog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you me?
SamuelHandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
on square tile floors, i like to walk in chess knight moves.
akaleidoll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the exact same thing, except with the opposite feet (start with left and end with right). It results in a lot of hopping and ridiculous sized steps.
Ihave2friends ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this with cracks on the sidewalk and colors of tiles, it was a game i played in elementary school where you were supposed to walk on only one color of tile. i guess it kinda stuck
carlitabear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a lot of intrusive thoughts/ anxiety as well?
Gortron3030 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I was the only person that does this
PSU02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get it diagnosed bro. I went and for a year met with a counselor. I'm now happy to say that I hardly ever have obsessive thoughts and I VERY rarely have to perform compulsions.
Nofgob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to look at the ground while walking when I was younger because I would go fishing/hiking a lot and would end up finding a ton of cool stuff while fishing and while hiking on loose rocks you have to look where you're going. Was a weird habit to break.
nit4sz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god!!! I do similar things! Though my rules are slightly different
Earfdoit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like your views on OCD. I was never diagnosed but I had it in a pretty extreme form when I was younger and one of the only things I've retained from it is a similar issue with walking patterns. I still wouldn't tell people that I have OCD though, because I think that it's stupid to say you have a mental problem that makes some people's lives hell when you just like a clean room or have to pay attention to how you walk.
danny7657 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YES. I also do this, but to the point where it can actually alter the direction I'm ealing because stepping off a certain row of blocks bothers me so much. Is this something that I should get checked out, I've never really considered how strange it is.
SmartAlec105 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it is so annoying that it will actually stop you from doing something like walking down the street, then it's a problem. If it's just a little annoying like it is for me, not really worth it. If you do have OCD, another symptom is anxiety but I've only felt that once or twice for a short period of time.
Mental illnesses usually won't kill you directly; they'll just make you miserable at most.
brastein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude I do the corners thing too! It's funny hearing someone else describe it. Pretty sure I've mastered just walking on them like a normal person, but I always recognize them, my old friends. Only you take it to the next level with the 2nd degree lines, fuck! Do your lines shoot into the shape as well as out?
SmartAlec105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 2nd degree lines isn't even where it ends sometimes. I kind of color the imaginary lines as red and the 2nd degree ones as green. If a green and a red intersect, then they cancel out and no line is produced but if a green and a green intersect they make yet another line but the 3rd degree line doesn't have a color since they are rare. I don't always do 3rd degree lines either.
For me, lines don't exit the shape that they are in, they just bounce around a little.
brastein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting you have colored lines. Mine are colorless, at least as I remember. I guess they're less visual, it's like I sense them with some other, indescribable sense. They permeate through space indefinitely, both in and out of the corners that spawn them, kinda like mathematical lines. But after a couple steps I forget about them :D
KrekyDaG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was diagnosed with ocd in elementary school. I used to count every single step like all the way into the hundreds. I don't do that as much anymore now its like what you said left foot right foot stuff thats all just too much to try to explain.
immelol4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fuckin wicked 'tistic, bro
Tunaluna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this a lot when walking my dog and such. Same foot forward onto the sidewalk every time , or at work I watch how my shadow changes on the ground as I walk past the lights.
baaaaaaaaaaaaaah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My God its not just me....
Sapphires13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was told by a psychologist that it's not OCD unless it interrupts your daily life. Stuff like: do your compulsions prevent or delay you from showering, eating, working, socially interacting? Only then is it a condition that requires medical treatment.
It sounds like you're able to control it, which is a very good thing. There are forms of therapy that can help you learn to control it even better, and sort of "rewire" your brain, to not have those compulsions anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You seem autistic
SmartAlec105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try, Norman Humal. Your plan to make yourself seem like a normal human by making me seem like not a normal human has been exposed.
PartiesLikeIts1999 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:36:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went way too far with it when I was on campus, I just wanted to avoid it, but didn't know where to look or what to really do with my arms, SO I was walking around like I was Brock Lesnar
my appearance didn't help me NOT look somewhat intimidating, I had a few friends I made there who would say things like "Man, I'll admit, when I first saw you, I thought you were some kind of hard ass looking for a fight"
NOPE, just didn't know how to walk
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! It does feel really awkward. One thing I noticed was when I was watching House and I noticed Chase really exaggerated his strut so it would read better for the camera. You don't really notice it until you look for it. It's kind of the same thing they teach in theater class, too. You need to exaggerate your motions so that even people in the back row of the nose bleeds can pick up your intention in your movement.
writer-lane ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:53:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"and don't stare at the ground all the time as you walk"
Do you want dog poop in your shoes, because this is how you get dog poop in your shoes.
Seriously though, looking ahead and down is a lot better than looking down. Forecast the landmines ahead of you.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dog shit to landmines... This just keeps getting worse!
maxburg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is so much dog poop on the ground in Brooklyn. It's as though all my years of lacking security and confidence have prepared me for living here.
frakinmeatsticks ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:04:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I walk with a slouch because of gyno. If I walk out with my shoulders back it looks like I have boobs, and I'm trying to stick them out. Sucks, but I'm so self conscious about it, it's like a loop of low self confidence.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep trying! I have the confidence that you can kick the low self confidence cycle >:D
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have wonderful posture. And then I became an entomologist. There are so many fun things to look at on the ground!
KingSneakyMole ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tuck your chin in too, so that it is pointing straight down to the ground. You might feel a muscles pulling at the back of your neck, on either side. That muscle is usually heavily undeveloped, and when you get older you'll have that posture with your head sticking out to the front. Fix your chin posture.
your_moms_a_clone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is great advice unless you are a clumsy oaf like me. I tried breaking myself from the habit of looking down while walking and you know what I discovered? I trip over things a LOT. Uneven pavement or sidewalks, sticks, my own damn feet. The worst was a couple of weeks ago, on some black ice. Had a gigantic bruise on my ass and may have screwed up my hip. So I may look stupid staring at the ground, but at least I don't trip.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least look up and around on occasion! :) Let people see those beautiful eyes.
your_moms_a_clone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:53:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, you're one of those assholes that tells girls to "Smile!!! :)" aren't you?
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh.. is that a bad thing? I'm sorry, I didn't realize.
your_moms_a_clone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:40:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look, just because I'm female doesn't mean I'm not allowed a bad day, right? Maybe I'm thinking about how my dad is dying at a young age because he didn't take care of himself like the doctors told him too. Maybe I'm thinking about my shitty job and my shitty, immature boss and how I can't afford to quit because of my shitty student loans. Or maybe I'm just tired. It doesn't matter. Telling some complete stranger to smile is just rude. I'm here minding my own damn business; I don't need to smile just so that you feel that much better about your world. My default face is a slight frown just like most people's. Do you tell men to "smile"? Most likely not. It's just women who for some fucking reason need to be constantly smiling like it's their fucking job.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooook.... I usually don't tell strangers I walk past anything. If anything, I make eye contact and make a quick smile, and then go about my business. And yeah, I do that for guys too. Sometimes a smile from a stranger can go a long way. It does for me. And I understand that some people might be having a rough time or maybe it's just their resting face. All I'm trying to accomplish by smiling at people is to possibly brighten their day or encourage them to look on the bright side of life. They don't have to think anything of it. The people who I actually say 'Smile!' to are usually people I know. Maybe they are having a rough time. I'm not trying to make light of anyone's troubles or heart ache. I'm just trying to encourage them that it gets better. I don't do it because it makes me feel better about my world when everyone around me smiles. It's not a selfish act. Maybe you've had experiences in the past where people were rude or inconsiderate about telling you to smile or whatever. It's obvious that something set you off. I'm not sure what it is, but I'm sorry it happened. No, you don't always need to smile. Yes, it's important to show your emotions, even if that's sad or mad or scared. But I will say that I hope things get better for you and that you will be able to smile when the time is right.
"And I urge you to please notice when you are happy, and exclaim or murmur or think at some point, 'If this isn't nice, I don't know what is.'" - Kurt Vonnegut
your_moms_a_clone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do smile when something or someone makes me happy. I also smile when I'm being polite, or when I'm paid to smile (yay customer service side job!). But those in-between moments, when I'm trying to shrug the work off and think about life things like dinner and chores and Pokemon, there are a hundred different thoughts that go through my brain and the vast majority of them don't merit a change in facial expression. You telling me to smile is assuming I'm frowning on purpose. I'm not, that's just my default face. So I'm supposed to just smile because it makes you happy?
"Iโd actually done that a couple times before myself, and each time I thought the request was playful and innocuous. Itโs just that, when presuming that nothing could possibly be that bad in an attractive womanโs life that she dare not smile, you are dehumanizing them. Itโs a โniceโ form of dehumanization, but itโs still dehumanization nonetheless. Itโs also transparent. You donโt see men running up to homeless women and the elderly and asking them to smile. The request is usually made when the requester thinks the requestee is attractive. Itโs not about a legitimate need for women to be happy as much as itโs that smiling/pleasant-looking women are easier on the eyes and more inviting to approach. Itโs really not about the woman at all."
Quoted from here
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, I think you're assuming I've done something I haven't. And also, again, if you've had bad experiences with it, I'm sorry, but sometimes those aren't the intentions. I don't get told to smile by women on the regular, and I'm not a woman, so I don't know how often other guys say this to women. I honestly think that most people, whether they smile at you or they say 'smile' have good intentions. It can be taken the wrong way, too. I think, by you saying they can read your mind, you are assuming you can read their intentions, which isn't always true. I'm sure there are people out there that say things like this for bad reasons, but you can't always assume people are out to hurt you or make you upset. The way I'm understanding you is that you would be offended if you were having a bad day and someone told you 'I hope you're having a good day' or 'Have a nice day.' If that's the case, I think you are looking to be a victim of something that just isn't there.
your_moms_a_clone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not telling you to try to read my intentions, I'm just informing you that despite yours, most women find this rude.
-3point14159-mp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, buck up. Smile!
maxxipierce ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:03:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it depends on the situation. If you're flirting with someone, telling them to smile can definitely be a compliment. You're interacting with them as an individual and you're trying to express that you find their smile beautiful or something, that's fine.
When it can get annoying is if you're using that "line" on any female near you, as casually as a, "How are you?" It stops being about an individual you're interested in and just comes across as a command without any context into that persons life.
It can be hard for people to tell the difference between you using a line on them, and you being genuinely interested in them, so your delivery is the most important part. People seem to prefer to be appreciated as individuals.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't say it, or often at least. If I ever said it to anyone, it would definitely be intended as "Hey, I think you're pretty, and I think you have a pretty smile" or as a reenforcement of their confidence. Is that acceptable? I would never try to use it as a means of demeaning someone or try to make them feel small or objectified.
maxxipierce ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:40:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, it's probably fine. If you seem genuine, I'd take it as a compliment and move on. But there are other women that are definitely harassed a lot more than me and they're the ones who are more likely to take it negatively. Definitely something to be aware of, but I think it's awesome when people compliment others.
doorkn00b ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started walking with a much more upright posture about 3 years ago, it became habit and all was well. Except now my lower back feels like a pretzel.
tarunteam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/3zjgoh/lpt_request_how_to_consistently_improve_my_posture/
malbane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fixed my bad posture on campus by putting my shoulder straps for my back pack slightly farther apart, it pulls your shoulders back automatically and makes it super uncomfortable to have your head down (note do not do this with a really heavy backpack, it really hurts). After doing it for a while I naturally walk like that now
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice! I think I've tried tightening my backpack straps to make it hug my torso more so it pulls my shoulders back.
theincrediblegohan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To go along with this, speak up. People would be surprised how this can work wonders.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I've had problems with posture and mumbling or speaking quietly. This is definitely another good one.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coincidentally a link about improving your posture did appeared on /r/LifeProTips
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_dFRnmdGs
a video about improving you posture
Shaunisinschool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is such a diffrence maker, on the days (or let's be honest weeks) when I'm not feeling quite as confident I just roll those shoulders forward and it's amazing how remarkably unnoticed a 6' 240lb man can go and feel.
Oconitnitsua ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If someone breaks their clavicles we take cravats (bandages that look like bandanas) and make a backpack/bra thing. It pulls the shoulders back and relieves pain. I make one of these for my self when I find my self slouching on the computer, it works wonders.
http://imgur.com/AM4ZkSm Should look like this
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you work in physical therapy or medicine or something?
Oconitnitsua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First aid/cpr teacher.
BigMickPlympton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading someplace that there are studies that show walking with your head up, helps keep you mobile in later life by improving balance and brain health.
Thetman38 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, posture makes a huge difference
errorist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem :)
logicalrat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The left side of my neck had been aching for the last month but then I did those excises in the shower and something just clicked (there was an actual pop). I feel amazing now, 100% better. Quality post, thanks. You're now tagged as "saved my neck".
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah! That's great! I'm glad you feel better now. :D
Furfaidz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I second this. Also, stare at the person you're talking to or who is speaking. It shows you're confident. Just, don't do this if you're in Japan or where ever it would be considered rude instead of confident.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pro tip: Working out will do wonders for posture and confidence. Your chest and shoulders become broader so you walk with better posture naturally without having to concentrate on it.
And that's before getting into the testosterone and energy boosts you will get from it.
Lostmygooch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence. Good thing to be taught. I remember being taught as a kid , when you meet someone new you look them in the eye and shake their hand. Had a job interview once , and was hired. The hiring manager told me a few months later , he had hired me because I was the first of about 15 interviewee's that had looked him in the face when they introduced themselves.
Doctursea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always do these things, and while I don't think it makes me more attractive. It does make you feel more confident. I don't get why people look at the ground so much, it's not going anywhere
grizwald001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mother's criticism of this when I was young is greatly appreciated today.
arriesgado ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just saw the Life Pro Tip post about improving your posture so I came here to say improve your posture. If only I could link the two posts as an infinite loop.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're still correct, though! :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean by put your shoulders back ? Like just relax ?
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like, straighten up! Some people slouch and it feels like there are heavy sand bags on your shoulders/shoulder blades/back that push them forward (actually probably just weak muscles). What I mean by straightening up is taking those sand bags off of your back and carry them like grocery bags and puff your chest out and hold your head high. It's probably not very relaxing of a feeling. Slouching is comfortable. Straightening up is going to use your weak back muscles.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea slouching isn't professional looking at all in certain situations. I just have trouble looking up at peoples faces and stuff. Im just socially awkward like that but ill follow your advice the best i can
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
for future reference
SweetestDisposition ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also amazing how much better you FEEL when you walk this way. It's like you've created confidence within yourself, and it's noticeable not only by others, but internally as well. I've gotten in the habit to straighten up as soon as I notice I'm slumping (which is often). It's like standing in one of those power stances; you just feel better.
rahyveshachr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you have a zillion responses but I can tell who the high schoolers walking home are because they hug their binders to their chest and stare at the ground as they slowly trudge home.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do have a zillion responses! Or so it seems! I'm not used to it either. ; - ; but you're probably right about the high schoolers. It doesn't help that kids are so damn cruel to each other.
aidenegf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so true! That Ted Talk you posted? I saw it a few years ago and usually I'm the kinda girl who'll make herself smaller in stressful events like job interviews etc. So last May I had an interview for a internship at a psychiatric institution for my masters degree in neuropsychology. I was really terrified and felt like this would fail. I would fail. Than I thought about this Ted Talk I once saw, and stood in the Power Pose for a couple of minutes. Okay, remember, it's only an interview. You can give the best you have, and that should be okay. And after that pose and some self motivation I actually felt more confident! I got the internship!
red-bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:59:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually did this for internship interviews as well! I did a couple of interviews, and while I didn't get them all, I got one. :) Congratulations on your internship!! How is the program going? :)
aidenegf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations to you too! Thank you :) My program is very interesting and sometimes a bit stressful. I don't have that many (maybe 1 or 2) friends or so with mental health issues so now I'm around people with issues all day, it's very very educational. How is yours?
(also, can't find my post in the thread. This was my first reddit reply ever. Oh well...)
red-bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! A reddit account for 9 months and no comments? :0 Well thanks for joining in on the conversation! :) and yes, this is a reply to the previous comments!
My internship is also pretty interesting but stressful. I've heard it compared to grad school, although it's not considered grad school. I don't think I'm smart enough for that. Ha. I'm more into the clinical side of things, not so much research. I've got about 7-ish months left of school/internship left! Is there anything you've learned that you could tell me that you think is super interesting and would blow my mind? :)
aidenegf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I love to read askreddit but never replied because first my English is a bit rough around the edges and second most of things I'd like to respond are already posted when I start reading the thread. Sounds great! I actually like the clinical side more than doing research (still ignoring the fact I should start searching for a thesis supervisor..). Hmm, there's nothing on the top of my mind at this moment. Something I've learned is that some people that are in a coma can actually eat and walk with help. That's something I learned a couple of weeks ago and never really thought of. And maybe (by doing a lot of IQ tests) the fact people structurally overestimate other peoples IQ (including myself). I'm attending university and yet I think my score will be around the higher end of 'average' or the lower end of 'above average'. A lot of people compensate with their verbal intelligence, so others will overestimate them and that's kinda key for failure in real life. In what field do you work? Any super interesting facts?
infosackva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have a combination of massive self confidence/esteem/image issues along with social anxiety (they're still there, just not to the same extent and I try to let them not control me any more) and I used to be the person who walked staring at my knees/chest, not even just my feet or the floor. This was made worse by the fact I was at a school with no friends.
I knew what was correct posture, as my mum and old school tried to teach us and over time I started working on some of my issues. I forced myself to glance up, look up, just walk with my head up. Then stand up straighter. And it's funny but the whole 'fake it til you make it' thing is true. I wasn't confident but walking with purpose with proper posture made me look like I was. Even now, if I feel like shit and want to hunch over myself I force myself to walk properly and the act of it helps my mood and my confidence. Walking with purpose even when you're lost also helps you look like less of a target.
I don't know if it makes other people like me better, but it makes me like myself a little more.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for sharing your story. :) It definitely helps me feel better too!
mces97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to always walk and look down. I'm so glad I got out of that habit. It definitely is a much more confident way of just being out and about.
red-bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:12:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad you were able to kick that habit :)
hamfraigaar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed recently I did something that nobody ever taught me was bad... Everybody knows you should straighten your back, even if they don't care and have only heard old timers say it in black and white movies, but nobody ever told me to push my hip forward
Or, actually just put it in its natural position. I used to walk around with my butt sticking out ever so slightly.
If you stand sideways in the mirror and you straighten your back and notice the shoulders, try to look at your hips to see if your back curves down there.
As soon as I noticed, I changed my posture, and I felt as if I had super human balance all of a sudden. Carrying myself became so much easier and I just fall in to a healthy posture by default.
Keeping a good posture is important for a multitude of reasons. Bad posture does not necessarily make you unattractive - but a good posture amplifies it (not like you're going to get broken up with by a girl because you accidentally slouch over when you're tired. It's actually natural to raise your shoulders when it's cold fx, and that doesn't look unattractive).
But more importantly, keeping a bad posture is a huge waste of energy. Sure, if you have bad posture and you're just changing it now, you feel clumsy and weird, but as soon as you start doing anything, your movements will be optimized, saving you energy.
And secondly, it will make you feel better about yourself
red-bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:28:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with everything you've said! Also, I've felt at times that by behind was sticking out a bit. Never really felt I've had a comfortable fix for it, but it's not like I'm always aware of it either.
gigglefarting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People say I strut when l walk, but usually I'm just walking to the music in my head.
NSA_Chatbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 5'10" (and slightly more than an half) but someone told me "what? I thought you were six-two!" It's posture.
Same with thinning hair. My hair's fine, you've got too much. It's in the way you walk.
RelievedAtom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fixed my posture through wake boarding a lot. When I was taught to wakeboard I was told to pretend to hold something with my shoulder blades ad while that may be a little exaggerated it certainly helped me.
KA1N3R ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did the same thing.
I changed it and now people tell me I sometimes walk like a model. So...I guess I improved.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WORK IT! :)
DishwasherTwig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It took me over a decade to realize why my posture was so bad and to begin correcting it. I always thought it was my backpack that's three years younger than I am, but around a year or so ago I realized that it's because of how I'm tall. I've always been tall, but unlike most tall people my height comes from the waist up. My legs are average length, but my body is longer than normal. As a result, shirts don't fit well and I have to bend down to put my hands in my pockets which is the key to the whole thing. I've been doing that for as long as I can remember and sloping my shoulders and slouching in the process. People don't usually believe me when I tell them I'm 6'3" because I'm slouching, but if I stand up straight the usual reaction is "Oh, that makes more sense now". I gain at least three inches by standing up straight.
Now that I'm aware of the cause of it all, I've started fixing it. And I've noticed a difference, I feel more confident in general. There's still progress to be made in that aspect, but the progress I have made thus far is promising.
I_UPVOTE_PUGS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually been working on this lately, and just realized I get so many more comments on how tall I am. I'm 6' 3" but when I walk all hunched like usual I look small. Once I started putting my shoulders back and walking tall it makes me feel and look more confident too.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit, as a pitcher in baseball I have naturally developed my right shoulder to stick out and always looks weird to people.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Professional or school??
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Natural curve!! What you're explaining sounds about right. Head, shoulders, butt, and heels. :)
theherminator808 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a female, this is ESPECIALLY important as it helps your breasticles from sagging and furthering back problems you could potentially have. I have to physically correct my well-endowed sister all the time.
TURKEYSAURUS_REX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture is super important for a lot of reasons!
jcrdy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i dont do this because then more people will ask me for money. i live in a major US city and I do like it here but if you use public transit to get around the city or go to main areas you will be asked for money almost every block. if you have headphones and keep your head at that 90 degree you won't be harassed by as many people. its not that i am not confident or that i want to look at the ground, its that the last time i looked up a man with face tattoo was making eye contact with me..
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can understand that. A lot of people seem to think that I mean to never look down. There are obvious reasons why you may want to look down, just don't make it an all the time habit.
jcrdy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which is completely understandable, sorry for being that exception to the rule poster that reddit always seems to have
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No need to be sorry! You're not alone. And it's really OK! :)
Hiredgun77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the benefits to wearing a tailored suit is that it helps to push your shoulders back and give you that power posture.
iama_username_ama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap, I've been looking for that video for years! Thanks
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey no problem! :)
centerflag982 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In addition to the links you've got so far, might want to add this /r/Fitness thread - only just started using this guide myself about 2 weeks ago, and while there's not much visible result yet (when I'm not actively thinking about it, anyway) I already feel much better, particularly the middle of my back
sineofthetimes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa said this to us constantly. Sit up straight. Stop slouching. Put your shoulders back. You look like you're falling forward all the time. He was right.
PyrZern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do a bit of classic ballroom dancing (Foxtrot, Waltz, or American Tango). You get into the habit of looking awesome just standing still or walking around. Great posture.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i fixed my walk and oddly i felt much more confident
Zakraidarksorrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a side note, I noticed that I used to look at the ground when I walked quite a lot, especially as a kid. Once I got glasses I generally walked with my head up more as I could see more clearly where I was going and wouldn't have to worry too much about tripping up.
If you walk with your head looking at the floor, try going to the opticians!
Meades_Loves_Memes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always just look at those people staring at the ground as they're walking, hoping they'll pop their head up. Why are they so afraid of the world that they literally can't look at people when they walk?
I'll edit your advice OP, always walk as if you have a purpose. Hold your head high.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk as if you have a purpose. I like it!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In general, just try not to look downward as much as possible unless there's a good reason to (steps, very uneven surface, ice), even when standing still.
If you're in a crowded area and someone's looking in your direction, you can look behind or to the side of them, above their eyes, etc. while keeping your head up or bring a book (you won't appear to be less confident if you're looking downward to use your phone or read a book).
katiecarbaholic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey thanks for linking that video! I've been thinking about that instructional video for a few days now, having seen it on here before, but hadn't been arsed to hunt it down. Cheers!
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem! :)
Standoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love this
jdol06 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit I've been trying to find that video with the Australian fella forever. I saw it in a thread about posture correction but couldn't remember anything about it. awesome! now, has anybody found success off of following it?
FarSightXR-20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get this all the time when I get photos taken. I know I hunch my shoulders a bit when I walk, but I don't know how to put my shoulders back. Can someone show me photos of what to do?
Taymac45 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:57:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok pretend that there is a string attached to your breastplate. (Middle of the chest) and that is pulling your chest up. Then I usually just roll my shoulders back a bit and the way they comfortably rest in this position will be ideal.
Source: Mens Choir.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Puff your chest out a bit. Put your arms by your side and then put them further behind to your side. It feels really stupid, but when you look in a mirror, it looks good. Slouching feels much more comfortable, so you will probably need to actively think about it. I'm linking this Ted Talk to a few other people responding. I recommend watching it!
FarSightXR-20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the tips! I just watched that Ted Talk about 2 days ago. :P
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem! A couple of other redditors pointed out an instructional video to me. If you're interested, it's in the edit of my original comment.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mustangbraveheart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence, ESPECIALLY via body language, is so damn attractive in a man for me. I know it sounds like bullshit but it's not. Yes, other factors play into attractiveness, but I can assure you that confidence as an attribute is hot as fucking hell.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people just have too much going on in their head to give a shit about such arbitrary shit. I have ADHD and work in a STEM field. My mind is racing 24/7 with real things to think about not how I'm walking. I'm attractive, in shape, cycle and power lift 4x a week sometimes 5, and have good hygene. No matter how self aware I am of my posture my brain shuts that shit down as soon as I'm walking and become bored.
red-bot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:24:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No I completely agree. I often have a scatterbrain too and I don't seem to notice that I'm walking with poor posture. It's a constant effort to remind myself to straighten up. I can totally relate to your comment.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did try changing how I walk, but it just made me look even more "stupid". The whole fucking class laughed at me and that's when I finally understood that whatever I do they will still laugh. Gotta stick with my modest ground-looking so called "stupid" walk. It's a lot more comfortable than it looks.
red-bot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely feels more comfortable. I have to actively think about making the change most of the time. Don't worry about your classmates. Kids are fucking stupid and cruel. Correcting your posture doesn't mean you need to look like Vince McMahon. But correcting your posture will make you feel more confident and make you exude confidence. Here's a Ted Talk about the power of posture.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:02:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man, you definitely made me feel better, and thanks for the link.
red-bot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a problem, man! Make sure to check out my edit in my original comment. Some other redditors pointed out an instructional video for how you can correct your posture. Good luck to you :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best advice I ever got was "walking like you're wearing a cape"
Incorrect-Opinion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if it's because I keep my shoulders back, but in recent months I've noticed my back has been feeling very uncomfortable. Probably not the right place to post this, but any idea what it could be?
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea, and I'm not a professional, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I'd ask you what your body type is like and what your exercise life is like. I don't think it's likely to just be your posture if you're already maintaining a decent posture. Maybe you're just trying too hard with the corrected posture? Are you carrying heavy things, like a backpack, a lot?
Incorrect-Opinion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even though I haven't lifted in the last couple weeks, I am usually training very intensely 4x a week. I do feel like sometimes I think about my posture, so it could be that I'm over-correcting it? I'm 5'9", 155 lbs, with about 8-9% BF, so I'm in pretty good shape. Sometimes I feel like thinking about my back makes it even more uncomfortable, but I can't help it!
stel27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulders back head floating above the centerline of the middle of your body; walking as if you are being pulled by your pubes, bottom of the core lightly, constantly engaged.
My Pilates teacher taught me how to walk at 35 years of age; never too late.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy deadlifts and squats will help you attain all of the above.
Morgana81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You will get shit on your boots really soon.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously look down when you need to be careful about where you're stepping and use common sense. Where are you walking that you constantly need to worry about shit on the ground??
Morgana81 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In a city where people dont bother cleaning sidewalks after their dogs.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, shit..
Drudicta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This actually hurts my lower back, a lot. Just stand up straight man.
red-bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For people who have problems slouching, putting your shoulders back just means to stand up straight. If you already have good posture, you shouldn't have to worry about putting your shoulders back more.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stare at the ground because I trip on air.
zhytwos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but i am imitating L...
Gear_Fifth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is something that I do, and also some advice I was given
"Walk as if you were wearing a cape."
The_Yar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also try to point your toes more or less forward when you walk. Duckwalk is not attractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what do you do when there's someone walking towards you? I feel weird looking in their direction the entire time.
red-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look passed them, look around, make eye contact and smile for a second, an occasional look at the ground isn't a bad thing..
Skeletoonz ยท 1934 points ยท Posted at 14:06:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretend to be confident. Whether you have high self-esteem or not, other people seeing you confident is a definite +1. As a bonus, eventually you won't have to pretend anymore.
Animated_Imagination ยท 834 points ยท Posted at 18:30:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't overdo it, though. It's so sad for someone with very low self esteem to overcompensate and end up looking overly cocky or full of him/herself.
MyWorkAccountThisIs ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 19:41:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's not pretending to be confident. Confidence is not always being right. It's knowing who you are and what you're capable of. Say you're in some fuck-all meeting with the head of another department and they ask you question you're not sure of. Don't hesitate to say you're not 100% and that you'll get back to them after the meeting. Not hem and haw and try some obvious redirect tactic or something.
Being confident means you're okay with being wrong in front of people because you know that doesn't change who you are or what you're capable of.
deadlysyntax ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 21:55:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perfect. Confidence isn't about swinging your dick around. It's being self-aware and respectful of the people around you, respectful enough to know that you don't know it all, and being happy to admit it. It's about knowing your strengths and flaws and playing to both in the right situation - voicing your opinion when you know something, asking questions when you don't and being prepared to learn if your ideas are challenged. Honest self assessment and adjustment is the key to becoming the sort of person that other people respect.
eazolan ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:11:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We...we can still swing our dicks around, right?
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To your heart's content
Ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough to have its content
traizie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then in that case, am I really confident because I know I'm not good at anything and I'm not afraid to admit it?
I'm pretty terrible at life in general. Socializing, jobs, driving, games, etc. You name it, I'm bad at it. But I don't really give a shit.
Does that still make me confident?
thirdegree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence isn't never failing, it's knowing that failing is ok.
triethan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:50:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But.. You know.. After the meeting you can still swing your dick around..my mouth
derefr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's not that you're always right, but it's closeโit's that you're always high-status. Confidence is basically acting like nothing you or anybody else does can take away the respect people give you.
When you're high-status, it's okay to be wrong, or to fuck up. Imagine the way you would react to fucking up if you knew people were not allowed to think less of you for fucking up. You'd laugh it off and move on, right? Maybe get someone to fix it, or volunteer to fix itโbut only because it needs fixing, not because you're now suddenly "in trouble" and have to absolve yourself by fixing it. That's how a confident person fucks up.
If you have trouble picturing this, picture an entitled personโa rich prince who thinks the world owes them everything. Joffrey Baratheon, say. But now picture them nice, and gentle. Same opinion about the worldโthat nothing the world says can make them less important/on top/etc. than they currently are, so none of it really matters too muchโbut now covered in a layer of humility and empathy and delight in making other people happy. That's confidence.
BartholomewPoE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This explains Americans.
cakebatter ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:20:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, there's a big difference between being confident and being an ass, and some people don't really get that. :/
EndoplasmicRectum ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:12:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... but I am full of myself.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, can you be full of someone else?
photocist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:39:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but I can sure fill someone up.
EndoplasmicRectum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not me! Imposter!
photocist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how do you really know that
Th3Kingslay3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like Spiderman 3 with the finger guns.
nessanoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that fills me with such confidence...
NotADemon_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who are you? How do you know my life?
CanadaOrBust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, one of my besties does this and it's driven me away. I don't think she knows that she's not really one of my besties anymore.
prostidude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or worse, become a narcissist.
eggbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Emo Peter Parker. Don't be emo Peter Parker.
little_seed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are some examples of a good middle ground?
ext23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
let me blow your mind...
...all those overly cocky people you see are actually really insecure.
wildabeast96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's this fear that keeps us shy
TheBrainwasher14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I think I might be guilty of this
Jigitynthejungle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe, I do that. It really sucks. I'll get better one day, or so I hope.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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AnAverageVaper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's also incredibly untrue.
deathchimp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:57:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not nearly as sad as the alternative.
AnAverageVaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The alternative having a low self esteem or being a bit of a downer?
I would rather hang out with someone who is self conscious or a little depressing than someone acting like a cocky asshole. Sure confidence is great, but there's a fine line between confidence and cockiness
deathchimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Matter of preference I guess. I don't have patience for depressing people and I don't see value in being any more self conscious than is necessary. Self aware is good but being self conscious is like wearing a straight jacket, sure it protects you from yourself but it tends to just be restrictive.
gigem_07 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:07:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some science behind "fake it 'til you make it". Also pretty cool how our body language affects our own brain just as much if not more than it affects others' perception of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-_Mh1QhMc
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great lecture! Thanks for posting it
gazongagizmo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:18:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well, u/Poem_for_your_sprog also graced this thread with two of his works, but this comment compels me to post an old one of his/hers.
badass_panda ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:00:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, people will treat you better when you seem confident; they'll look up to you, be friendlier to you, etc ... and that makes you more confident.
wallofeden ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:17:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On that note, don't confuse being confident with being a douche. Just speak up in conversations, laugh a little more, etc. Confidence is just being sure of yourself and being natural in any environment.
no1survivalist ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 16:56:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
act it till you are it. worked for me!
[deleted] ยท 401 points ยท Posted at 17:55:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till you make it.
g0_west ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:40:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till you have a very public mental breakdown
neznarF5191211079 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me irl.
Lo_Rez ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:03:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blast it 'til you're past it.
Moltk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:01:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be it til they see it
radusernamehere ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:03:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Break it until they pay it.
_Widows_Peak ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:37:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck it til she's pregnant?
vibraslapchop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'bate it till you mate it.
ThexJwubbz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jack it til u make a mess is what my uncle always said
iOSbrogrammer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:24:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hate us cause they ain't us.
ViviWannabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lie it till you buy it.
hellowiththepudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Op is still pretending.
sidogz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bake it till its not cake mix.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till you become it.
truwarier14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen that TED talk too
HippoProblems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretenderate it until you am that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/no1survivalist tried.
no1survivalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i never used fake it till you make it, always act it till you are it for me. Think about it, if youre faking being an awesome mountain biker and youre pulling 360's you arnt faking shit! So youre acting like the biker until you become one. Just my way of thinking
THR33ZAZ3S ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MAKE IT MAKE IT DON'T FAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT DON'T FAKE IT
camdoodlebop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lie until you die
ejoman113 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I smile when I'm sad, it makes me think I'm happy...
justsamilarity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loop it til you poop it
the__itis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:00:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But for the love of all things logical, eventually be the part instead of an actor. American Idol was the best case of "fake it until you make it" gone horribly hilarious.
hthu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:11:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's how Ponzi schemes work.
swaglord94 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rock out with your cock out
shraquoia ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:55:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. Before I got married I dated some nice guys but they were not confident in themselves and it was a complete turn-off/borderline irritating.
AssHotdogs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it til you make it sounds better
no1survivalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it does indeed! but i used act it until you are it because it was more about acting confident and like i knew wtf i was doing
fenwaygnome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but it doesn't rhyme
absentian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then take acid and realize you're living a lie and spend the next year figuring out what the fuck is going on
no1survivalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha I wouldn't take it to extremes like, christ. Went from positive vibes and attitude to taking acid and losing my mind!
eksyneet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how does one fake the physical aspects of low confidence? shaking limbs, for example, or flushing, or trembling voice?
no1survivalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Head up, shoulders back, clear voice. I dont think i have ever came across as shy, i dont count myself low confidence. I recommend working out though. It helps :)
eksyneet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'd do that if i could but i just can't help the physical reaction! it only kicks in in more extreme situations, like public speaking or when i'm seriously embarrassed, but when it does, there's about as much i can do as with a bout of explosive diarrhea =/
no1survivalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone is nervous at public speaking! They fake not being, of course they are its not natural. Haha well mate next time you get nervous just remember that you told reddit you have explosive diarrhea.. if you can do that you can do anything
HowBoutDemMons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tavros?
1pptouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I went to see the new Star Wars movie, a Kung PubPanda commercial was on before. One of the characters said something like: If you don't do more than you can, you'll never be more than you are. It stuck with me.
no1survivalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A commercial that gives advice? What is this?
dangerousmuscleshirt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it til you make it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I'm usually wrong?
Sinrus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence isn't about always being right. I did the "fake confidence" thing all through my last two years of high school, and it mainly involved laughing at myself and owning how terrible and incompetent I am at everything. The opposite of confident isn't "wrong", it's embarrassed. You can be confident and fuck up; your failure isn't awkward or embarrassing unless you make it that way.
vagina_fang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found fake it till you make it girls very unattractive.
Just be yourself Tony Robbins.
Culinarytracker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all imagined until proven otherwise.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It took me years of faking it to get it down pretty well. I honestly can't tell anymore if I'm actually confident now or just so good at faking it that I've fooled myself.
Tommy2255 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the secret. It's the same thing.
RoC-Nation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till you make it.
Tsarin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So much this. It's also a similar principal with smile and pretend you're happy. Eventually you won't have to pretend anymore. You become the person you portray yourself as.
Sebbiie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you give me some examples of this?
romulusnr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... Not so much. When you act confident but no one else likes your brilliant idea, and challenge you on it, confidence doesn't do much for you.
Well, unless you're Donald Trump and your audience is a room full of idiot asshats.
Sorry, that should be "underinformed rapscallions."
shane727 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me if I act confident and people approach me then they will see through the bluff in about 5 seconds.
jboulter11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LITERALLY THIS! Fake it till you make it, 100%. This is how you get confidence.
Mirrorflute88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the FDR method
Tommy2255 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Acting confident makes you confident. Smiling makes you happier. And nothing cures feeling shitty in the morning better than jumping out of bed and shouting out lies like "it's a beautiful morning" or "Good morning world, what a great day".
Derpakiinlol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it til' you make it baby! That's what I did. I didn't believe I would ever be confident.
Aperture_Kubi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, the Doctor Who method for fitting in.
anumati ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First, make sure you know what confident actually looks like. It's not "I'm right, regardless". It's "I think this" and then no explaining or justifying and if someone challenges you no getting all defensive and nasty - instead actually weigh up the merits of what they said and be honest if they have a point (and if they don't, just stop at "I don't agree with that" which is just more not explaining or justifying).
Helbig312 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till ya make it. It may feel uncomfortable at first, but I usually just laugh (and other do too) when I start to go over the top with it.
KMFDM781 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This right here.....probably see the most end result from this than almost anything else.
automatedcrumpet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always hear this advice but never know how to implement it into day to day life. Any tips?
BlaineCraner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This always gets me. How do you "pretend" to be confident? To have high self-esteem? I simply don't get it.
Tvvister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretending to be confident:
Bonus: 1. Master asking question durning conversations. 2. Smile.
These are just a few things I jotted down on a piece of paper when I was younger and I treaded it like a check list when going out to a bar. It worked well for me :D
bashar_speaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or when you can't be confident, be genuinely humble. A lot of low-self-esteemy people seem awfully vain and self-involved, they make everything about them. Like if they see an impressive work of art, the only thing they have to say is "I can't make art that good ::sadface:: ...."
It's attractive when someone humbly accepts their limitations, and does not let their limitations be a blow to their ego. Instead of being like "poor me, I'm not perfect!", they are attitude is more like "It is what it is."
lawnpuppies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretending to be confident is like posting motivational posters. Being confident is living life and getting things done.
hothotsauce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If you can't be brave, pretend to be. No one can tell the difference"
kmrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it til you make it!
klop2031 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
+5 rads
IKnowTheFingerGoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this and people always tell me I'm "always in good mood" and that makes them feel better. It's really just that I know I can't fix a lot of things that bother me so I mentally tell them to piss off. I only get frustrated with things I can fix and have influence on. So overall I'm always pretty confident and in a good mood. However, when I get pissed off I'll put you through a freaking wall.
badsoul69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i know someone who is confident regardless of the situation. he usually ends up in deep shit, or blame someone else. many people like to be around him, but if you can see through his lies, he is extremely unpleasant to be around.
be confident, but please, don't overdo it.
Awesome-o_O ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is hard as fucking piss to do without looking like a total fucking jack wagon that is trying way too hard. Luckily I either have it or I don't, and the days/times when I have it are naturally occurring! ^ _ ^
onlypineapples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like this advice. In my experience, this advice is doled out in areas that are filled with stress and people bottling it up. About a year ago, I went to a crisis ward where they take in people who had attempted suicide. The group I had of about 20 adults between 18-50, including myself, had one common reason for being there:
We needed to look strong for other people. So we pretended to be confident, by never saying anything to anyone.
So no, I don't like one bit of this advice. I think it's highly toxic.
catsandicecream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident. Just be like "I know what an airplane is!" - eugene mirman
heres another.
"Women love danger. If they could, they'd just date a fire."
mwashu66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought my older brother was this cool, super aloof and confident guy, and always wanted to be just like him.
Two years ago, I told him that's how I always viewed him growing up and he was shocked. Apparently he was always super shy. But from the outside, he didn't look shy, he looked confident. The kinda kid that didn't need to be the center of attention to feel good about himself.
Ancel3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mother's motto is "Fake it 'till you make it". You would be surprised how far you can bullshit yourself into something if you just look like you're supposed to be there.
adverb_adjective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah like the chick I met on NYE who I acted super confident to and now I have a date tomorrow for lunch. Now that we've talked and I learned more about her and realize she is completely out of my league. All I have to do is keep up this act for the rest of our relationship. Shouldn't be a problem.
Nutritionisawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exercise intellect. If you lack it, pretend.
Firewolf420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but... faking it is kind of a tell in itself. It's not as easy as you might think to be convincing. What I really find sad is when you meet somebody who's obviously shaking in their boots nervous as hell, but they're trying so damn hard to look normal that they actually start looking more nervous. Stuff like, laughing way too much at every chance they can get, is a sign of insecurity. And people will judge you for it. They'll either feel sorry for you, or they'll immediately rule you out as weak. Beta. And the worst thing is there's no way to get better at being social, something you're probably terrified of in the first place, except for being social. A real Catch-22.
I for one would love if anyone had any suggestions to this conundrum.
BethWNYX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not going to be a sleazy fake. I hear this advice all the time. It's disingenuous.
strangelyliteral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to append a warning to the "fake it 'til you make it" advice. I spent a lot of time faking it, and I did such a good job people believed it completely. I made a ton of new friends, got a great-on-paper boyfriend, went to tons of parties (some of which I threw). There was always something to do on Saturday nights, was the most popular person in any room I entered.
And I grew to hate them all, because I was spending so much time on faking it there wasn't any time left to, well, make it. I had to sacrifice a lot (including the boyfriend) to actually figure out what mattered, what made me feel good about myself, and how to get that. I still have some of the friends and others will be there when I'm ready, so that's good. My life's a lot less sexy/glamorous than it used to be and I do miss how much fun I had, but I'm so much prouder of myself and less willing to put up with shit that makes me miserable, so I think it'll be worth it in the end.
Ivedefinitelyreddit ยท 3745 points ยท Posted at 14:06:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dressing a little nicer helps a lot. I'm usually just a T-shirt and jeans kinda guy, so when I do khakis and a button up, people usually take notice. Nothing too fancy, but it seems to have an effect.
GeneralJabroni ยท 835 points ยท Posted at 18:30:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
see, but if you wore khakis and a button up all the time then no one would notice
you gotta be ugly first and then wow them with some style
Justice_Man ยท 301 points ยท Posted at 19:49:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha that's actually a real lesson. I remember in my acting class I had a romance scene with a woman I thought was hilarious and awesome, but always had her hair up.
Then on the day of our scene she let it down and she had this incredible mane of elbow length black hair. It was like a totally different person.
[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 23:44:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom always taught me to make my make-up look very down to earth and natural most of the time. And then when I do myself up more for special occasions, there's that wow-factor :)
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:25:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Umm, I can't do this because I'm completely hideous without makeup.
TNUGS ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 03:07:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know you, but that's probably not true.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:15:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, that's the thing, it doesn't mean without :) for me personally the more casual make-up is concealer for under the eyes (makes a huge difference), some powder on the eyelids, a little eyeliner and mascara.
Sometimes I'll put some shadow on too, but nothing too bold. Overall it makes me look a ton better, but not like I'm wearing a bunch of make-up.
wewora ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:11:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do people think that? I mean, you weren't born wearing makeup. At what point did you start thinking you looked ugly without it?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:37:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugly people exist, saying that it's something only in their head is something pretty girls say because they can't empathize with the fact that lots of women don't look great without makeup.
wewora ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:08:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. That's a new perspective for me. Thanks. But I do honestly wonder when people start to consider themselves ugly.
audreyfbird ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:09:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I don't wear makeup, my skin-tone is uneven and blotchy. Nobody thinks that's attractive.
TheOneAndOnlyGod_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend actually has some pigmentation around her right eye and cheek, she always hated it. Said it made her feel horrible.
while I on the other hand thought it was actually super cute, and thought it truly was unique and super cute.
Don't know if that really helps you, but similar. It completely killed her self confidence, while the guy crushing on her thought it was adorable.
So wear it with pride. :D It's what makes you....YOU.
Nixie9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not always 'ugly', just sub optimal. I don't look shit without make up, I have the odd fb profile picture without it, but generally, I look way better with a bit of slap on.
If I'd never seen myself with it on then I'd not care, but since I have, I feel comparatively ugly without.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called the "no make-up" makeup look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called the "no make-up" makeup look.
NotSureIfTrolls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So did you romance her?
Justice_Man ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:04:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just her neck, I'm into the undead.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:43:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the traditional 80's teen movie approach.
DefinitelyNotADemon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:38:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am one of those persons. I have dressed to impress almost every day of my social life and in turn it has been the norm when people see me. Problem is that now if I dress in jeans and a T then people say I look "dirty" and if I dress in a suit then I look weird.
GeneralJabroni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah I learned this just now
in my previous job I always wore khakis and a button up. this new workplace is more lax so I just wear pants and a polo but the few times I wore button ups I got a lot of compliments
cordial_carbonara ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:10:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a tshirt and jeans gal, this is my life. My favorite reaction was when I worked for a fine dining place. As a server my uniform was a black fitted button up, black dress pants, and black shoes with my hair in a tight bun, and this is how my coworkers and patrons saw me pretty much every day. I came in for the first time as a supervisor and basically all I did was wear my hair in a looser but stylish updo, put a colorful lace top under the same old black button-up, and threw on some lip gloss and pumps instead of food service crocs. Seriously an extra 10 minutes worth of effort, if that. Everyone freaked out. "Why don't you do this more often?!" Because I'm lazy. And I married a guy who goes for the tshirt look, so long as I maintain basic hygiene I get laid.
SteelTheWolf ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:53:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have this problem currently. I've been in a coat of tails with a top hat and cane for the past two years. I've become invisible again and I don't know where to go from here.
ErickHatesYou ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:15:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start the cycle over. Stop shaving and showering, wear clothes that are bland and don't fit well, and bite the bullet for about six months. Then when you put on the khakis and button up again the world will be none the wiser.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:30:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No kidding, girl in one of my classes usually wears baggy jeans and tshirts, but yesterday she wore a skirt and nice blouse and did her hair. I couldn't stop looking at her, she looked incredible.
I_need_proof ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh the business approach. Gotta lower their expectations so you can wow them!
TomHardyAsBronson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of my fashion sense in a nut shell. I love bumming it, but that means when I throw on a pair of heels or some lipstick, all eyes are on me.
GeneralJabroni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
heels alone do a lot
jeeluhh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But, if you' typically wear makeup and want to go home sick, don't wear makeup. Or wear makeup for a week or so prior to you wanting a sick day .
GeneralJabroni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's also a good strategy
gotta think about the tradeoff
never surprising coworkers with looks vs potential free sick days
daddydunc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First we get the jobs, then we get the khakis, then we get the girls.
boombotser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to explain this to my mom but she's not havin it
SantiGE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. This is basically how I dress all the time, and while people don't tell me that I look good "today", I've been told quite a few times that I'm the one that dresses the best at work.
I take no pride in that, as I simply wear button-down shirts, sweaters and nicely cut jeans most of the time, but people do notice I make an effort to look presentable.
vj7usa ยท 2496 points ยท Posted at 14:33:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a similar note, dress to fit your body type.
Some examples: Don't be the guy that wears an overly large shirt which fits awkwardly. If you're a bit bigger in the stomach area, consider tucking your button-down shirt in - it'll make you look skinnier. Wear the right style of jeans.
[deleted] ยท 3119 points ยท Posted at 15:26:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The good ol' chub and tuck
[deleted] ยท 2132 points ยท Posted at 17:18:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, Ethan, great boobs! Keep them up. Proud of you!
[deleted] ยท 307 points ยท Posted at 18:46:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I always thought she said Moves....
EDIT: i can't tell from the 10+ replies, are you guys SURE she does?
[deleted] ยท 623 points ยท Posted at 19:13:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you really think Michelle fucking Obama would say "boobs" publicly to a guy to compliment him?
Sempere ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, she's the First Lady. She'd scream "Nice tits!"
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 19:14:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if Michelle is fucking Obama publicly, I wouldn't be surprised.
SwirlySauce ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 19:57:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GONE SEXUAL
VirtualAnarchy ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 19:15:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Papa bless
DammitChris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She do
camdoodlebop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well it's not like she has to worry about reelection
Indoorsman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that bitch got down in the 90s.
chillwombat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:52:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it's moobs
SammyVimes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:44:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because she does.
josht54 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:46:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She does.
TheOhzie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:22:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She does
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:30:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
she says moobs as in man boobs
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She did
DammitChris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She be
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/tVaAv0cPRok?t=1m19s
Dr_Nubcake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She is saying moves just really sounds like shes saying boobs.
odesee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:10:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It does
GamesinaBit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:54:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*moobs
FTFY
Shanack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:59:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How come whenever I see my name on the internet its always either about some some asthmatic rich kid or my man tits?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:22:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Ethan Klein's fault.
theclownwithafrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta lube up before you crunch!
imaconor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:53:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember your nipples are headlights
Xeronite ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:48:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Papa bless...
movetothecoast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:16 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad that so many people appreciate Ethan our one true overlord.
ButtholeBerserker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will always beleive she says moobs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Michelle can only dream of having his assets.
Magnicth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's my name, and I was starting to freak out until I realized that must have been some sort of reference that I didn't get.
johnny_appletits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what's this from?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*moves
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:13:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well no shit
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:19:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why the fuck would op say boobs? Its not funny and doesn't make sense in context
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it sounds like she says boobs.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't really, anyways it's well known that its moves
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you have to admit it at least sounds like moobs.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:20:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ill give you moobs
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thx bb ;)
[deleted] ยท 263 points ยท Posted at 16:36:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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GDudzz ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 16:49:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen the seductive chub and peek?
RevMick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never noticed this until I moved to the south. Suddenly it's acceptable to have a giant lower center tit flopping out from under your shirt and over your fly. WTF!
peperoniichan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:41:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's... not what the chub n peek is
Deathleach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what's called the chub and stare.
Marty_McF1y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lived in south whole life. Can confirm.
That being said I find it repulsive and so does everyone my age. We call em front-butts.
TheBlunderbuss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[NSFW]
ItsDomKu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It easily combos into the blub and fuck
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:18:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm starting to see goofsters and gafsters EVERYWHERE now
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:29:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Papa bless
HumphreysMcGoo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:55:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wearing bracelets always helps.
LikeAMillionButts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:52:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not even fair
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:48:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
REALLY!?
IRiseWithMyRedHair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the immortal words of Kevin Smith, "You're fat dude, accept that you're fat! Some advice? Wear layers."
TheTweets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed relatively recently that I'm starting to get a bit of fat on the hips and stomach.
I don't know whether to aim to stay slim like I was or go for the sexy chub n' tuck.
Also, still sounds like a technique to hide an erection.
yes_but_why ยท 825 points ยท Posted at 18:26:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh? Every time I see someone do this, I can't help but stare.
BevansDesign ยท 996 points ยท Posted at 18:47:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't view the image (imgur is blocked at work) but I think I know exactly what it is: a person whose shirt is tucked in, but their gut is still hanging over their belt, so really you're just seeing exactly how fat they are. How close was I?
That used to be me, and I've gotta say, if your options are to tuck your shirt around your gut or leave the shirt untucked, leave it untucked. Maybe baggy doesn't look great, but the gut-tuck looks worse.
jsellout ยท 960 points ยท Posted at 19:28:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty damn close.
Ormagan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:32:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing he missed was that the guy wasn't wearing a belt, but that's just nitpicking really.
NKHdad ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:48:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he truly couldn't see that image, his description is incredible. I think by "hanging over the belt" he basically implied belt-line so I'll allow it.
Ormagan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:03:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, it's one of those things that you can tell he either has personal experience with the effect, or he knows someone who fits that description.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:35:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you meant to type, "Spot on."
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:47:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The photo is of him!!!
darthbarracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like a fucking sharpshooter
gqgk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:28:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You guessed right, but as someone else mentioned it's because the pants are too tight.
RaitoGG ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:39:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So they're supposed to wear jeans that are as wide as their stomach? That doesn't make any sense. If you're chubby, your stomach will almost always be wider than your legs and hips. It will always look like that.
gqgk ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:50:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a balance. In that picture the guy is practically being strangled by his pants.
RaitoGG ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:53:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine has a lot of chub on his stomach and tucks in his shirt into his jogging pants sometimes. He looks like 20% fatter when he does it. Don't tell me pants as baggy as those are too thin.
gqgk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:10:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL. Into running pants? Again. Running pants and jeans and dress pants are not the same. We're talking about a button down shirt. Nothing should ever be tucked into running pants unless you want to look like erkle. Go look at MFA for how what I'm saying actually works instead of talking about obscure corner cases that nobody mentioned but you.
RaitoGG ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:13:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Show me one guy with a lot of gut who looks skinnier with a shirt tucked in than out and I'll believe it.
vj7usa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:44:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I said a little gut, not a lot - probably more like a beer belly. Walk around any office in corporate America and I guarantee you those slim looking guys in suits or the business casual doesn't have a six pack going.
As a quick google Jay Leno:
http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/vmnoiclacs71ree0ftqv.jpg
iNeedAValidUserName ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:08:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Define "lots of gut" I guess.
I'd say Kevin James probably fits the bill in this picture, I believe he's just shy of 300lbs, at 5'8"
Here is a picture untucked
Granted, it's clearly not the same outfit that'd be a bit harder to find sorry I think something very important to notice is where his pants are sitting in the 2 as well. In the suit, they're actually probably sitting on/near his waist NOT his hips something most casual mens clothing doesn't do. How'd I do /u/thoggins ?
It's also possible, being a celebrity and all, that he lost tons of weight or gained tons between the pictures, not rare for celebs. This might be a still from the movie he's at the premier for so that'd probably be closer.
thoggins ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:29:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that there is a certain chance his weight between the first two pictures fluctuated quite a bit. Even if it didn't, though, your point of waist vs. hips is pretty important. You don't get a lot of clothes off the rack that will fit on your waist comfortably.
Being a celebrity probably helped him get access to well-fit trousers that sat in the right place. The rest of us aren't generally so lucky, so tucking a shirt in, when we've got enough gut, makes us look like the fat slobs we are.
On that basis I've decided to disappoint regarding the eating of any footwear.
iNeedAValidUserName ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:24:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, I generally agree.
If the pants are worn at the hip - not the waist - probably shouldn't be tucked in if you've got more than a little muffin top, and pants that made to wear at the waist aren't typically casual wear for men.
honestly though, same goes for women - there's a reason there's a lot of highwaisted stuff for women. Even w/o a tucked in shirt it shows wide hips instead of gut. In theory at least.
No matter what being in healthy shape will make even the best/worst fit look better.
thoggins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:44:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll eat my shoes if anyone can actually prove this.
RounderKatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol @ MFA. The only place on the planet that goes full rainman over boat shoes and the difference between charcoal and charred coal
folderol ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:25:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right but this person is also not slightly bigger. The pants are supposed to be worn closer to the naval than the hips. When I tuck in it does look better because my pants sit in the right spot. Plus my gut isn't quite that big.
catfingers64 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:59:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to get my husband to buy pants that would do that (he's got a bit of a gut that hangs over), but he didn't believe it would work. Granted, we were looking at dept. store jeans, so not exactly the best fitting in the first place. Any advice or where I could go for advice?
bp92009 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:28:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men's Warehouse.
I've found that jeans there cost more, but last far longer.
I just got 2 new pairs, replacing an older pair that I wore for close to 2 years. Yeah, they cost $75, but they are jeans that you can wear to work, around the house, or out to various places.
High Quality and good looking clothing is better to cheaper clothes that wear out faster (a $100 purchase once a year costs less than 4 $30 purchases).
Also, high quality belts are necessary.
catfingers64 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:02:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. Maybe I'll save up and get a trip to MWH for him as a birthday gift. I don't think he would splurge on himself like that. Especially since he wants to lose weight, he'd probably have the mindset that he should wait to spend money on good clothes until he's lost weight. I'm a believer that I want to wear clothes that fit and look good now and I want that for him too.
bp92009 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing that may convince him is that Jeans with a belt can drop several sizes without an issue. Unless he's going to drop 4-6 sizes in a very short period of time, it's generally not an issue.
That was what belts were designed for. Holding pants up that were too big/loose to fit normally. Belts can be used as a sort of "Measuring Stick" as you have several holes in the belt that you can use as the basis for how much you have lost.
Think of it this way, get good clothes now, that look even better in the future. Even going down a single belt hole would be a big morale boost that keeps things going ("Yes, I've got actual, tangible proof, that I've lost weight, and the goal is to get to the point where I NEED new pants because the old ones are too big")
Nasdasd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pants should not go over a gut, gut should hang over pants
FoxtrotZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:32 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a fat guy, you're incredibly wrong.
folderol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't wear jeans much. For everything else people often suggest tailoring. /r/MFA takes some flack sometimes but that's where I usually get my advice.
hardrockfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to do that, but the stomach curves in after my naval causing me to pull my pants up every 50 feet.
drumstyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually yes. Technically pants are supposed to be worn at the waist, which is well above the "gut line". Of course, no one does any more.
William3455 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:45:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wearing pants up over your stomach makes you look like: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/lastmanonearth/images/4/4e/107-003-the-last-man-on-earth-she-drives-me-crazy.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150423133526
I think letting a shirt hang beats both chub-and-tuck and pants-over-chub.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:21:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay honestly if you're that fat, there's no trick that will make you look not fat. Just go exercise and watch your diet
Nasdasd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pants over chub is worse than shirt hang by far
But shirt hang is worse than chub and tuck
Wretched_Hunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tried changing http to https?
mister_bmwilliams ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree, I think there's a good midway. Untucked, and a dress shirt would look like a loose dress. A looser tuck would make it look neater without emphasizing the gut.
xrimane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think that, because it just seemed to accentuate the body, but I changed my opinion. Actually, everybody sees how fat you are anyway. If you tuck it in, you a) assume and thus project more confidence, b) actually take up less room as if you hide your body behind curtains and c) clothes hanging around look like they'd get in the way when you move, so tucking them in looks like you're more active.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The gut tuck doesn't look as bad when your gut starts hanging out from under your button up/t-shirt/sweater.
Nasdasd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree, I like the gut-tuck on a man
theserpentsmiles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh fat guy here who wears button downs. The tuck is still important. You get a bit larger shirt and let it be a bit baggy. It helps you not look like shit. An untucked shirt at overweight looks really shitty.
scarf-ace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is imgur blocked but reddit isnt is my question
BevansDesign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They block "personal file storage" sites, presumably to prevent you from uploading customer credit card numbers or something like that. It's an ISO 9001 compliance thing, I think.
And every now and then a Reddit thread will get blocked because someone mentioned marijuana, but that's just the web filter being overzealous.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No belt, but still nailed it.
FoxtrotZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:53 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fat guy checking in and there's a fantastic third option, depending on your body type: Get bigger pants.
My favourite pair of pants is a 46 in the waist. That doesn't sit at my hips, it goes comfortably around my entire gut and sits at my natural waist. I can ratchet it down with a belt so that it won't slide down uncomfortably over my love handles, or hang them from my shoulders with suspenders.
Now of course, you're going to look a little more olde timey with your pants so high, so you'll have to be okay with that. Also it probably doesn't work with jeans, I wear slacks all the time as a matter of habit. Good occasion to start wearing vests if you're into that. I get away with it mostly because I've got kind of a tall torso, all things considered.
Viscount321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a big guy too, but have been getting into shape over the last few months (lost 70 lbs so far!) Anyway, the current solution I've been using for the gut tuck is to wear a slightly snug fitting sweater over my tucked in dress shirt. It's a perfect style for Fall and Winter.
PlanetMarklar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:16:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just wear your pants where they're supposed to be, just below your hips. There comes a point in a fat man's life where he has to decide whether his pants fasten above or before his fat shelf and he usually chooses below because above makes his pants 4 sizes bigger but then you have this problem.
GSlayerBrian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:37:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have friends slightly smaller than me that look fatter because they do this. I wear my pants around my waist, that is, my belt crosses my navel. They wear theirs below their "fat fold" so even though they're the same size as me, they can think they're a 38" waist rather than closer to 50". The result of which is that despite being a big guy I still look decent with a tucked in shirt, but they look like slobs in the same outfit.
Sveet_Pickle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah lower rise pants don't really work if you have a big gut.
folderol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:28:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just below your hips? WTF? You like to show a lot of ass crack?
That's when you fat shelf turns into a Dunlop. It just done lopped over you belt.
therealstupid ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about buying some pants that fit, you fat slob? (The general "you", not you in particular.)
TheRhaneMan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:19:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone is saying it's because his pants are too tight, but honestly hes just got a big belly. I think what the person you responded to meant was that for those at a healthy weight, but perhaps a little excess fat and less muscle definition, tucking in provides a more slimming look, which is true.
Hikikomori523 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:24:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
good ole chub n tuck
Ghostwalker3322 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:26:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good ol' chub 'N' tuck never fails to impress the babes.
DehydratedCantoloupe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:58:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, the good ol' fashioned "Chub and Tuck"
SpaceWorld ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:41:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because the pants are too tight.
g0kartmozart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sauce on that beautiful chub and tuck?
lemonchickentellya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh. The Jeremy Clarkson.
Hella_Potato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:15:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking as a heavier girl, this is something I taught a few male friends of mine who are huskier.
1) Go to Old Navy.
2) Go try on women's jeans. Find a pair that settles higher up on your waist and is just a hair too tight (this is important. they tent to lose some of their snugness during the day). Make sure they are a nice dark blue.
3) Tuck your gut into the pants, this will help contain it to a certain extent and the pants will give a uniform smoothness, even if there is a gut.
4) wear a button down shirt over the pants, not tucked in. A nice dark blue and red plaid usually looks good. Roll the sleeves up to 3/4 length. (put a safety pin inside if you're a tragedy like I am and fail at keeping sleeves rolled up and uniform)
5) pair with a nice pair of boots (IE hiking boots or Doc Martens) a low cut uniform color sneaker (black vans) or cuff the jeans and wear with a men's wing tip in brown or dress oxford (wear some nice blue or brown dress socks with these)
You'll look like a hipster, but clean lines with a little bit of color and a laid back attitude are decent on a man. Old Navy jeans for women are super comfy and fit both genders pretty well, this look also will hide some of your weight by not breaking up the fat into easily identifiable areas, with the shirt masking some of the weight and the pants helping create one smooth line down your legs. :)
Oisillion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you take a picture of my dad...?
Tehjaliz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That last button that is always unbuttoned drives me crazy.
Godisnotgreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's an exceptional chub-and-tuck. Exactly what you should be aiming for.
bubbleheadbob2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part of the problem here is the lack of a wider leather belt and not keeping his "gig line" straight. I don't know if there is a name for it outside of the navy but a gig line is the line created by the buttons of your shirt. That should be in a straight line with your zipper. The belt will keep your jeans from creating the muffin top look by "bracing" the fabric of the belt line. If you do that, it will make you appear slimmer. It doesn't magically make you look skinny or anything but done right it will minimize it.
aredditgroupthinker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been told this as well. I thought a gut would look worse in a tight shirt but women tell me the opposite.
Smurfboy82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can only polish a turd but so much.
AgentBawls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part of the problem there is the wrong pants. They're way too tight and shouldn't be rolling like that
DarkwingDuc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's more than "a bit" bigger.
mormotomyia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey thats me.
frickinsweetdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You hatin on the chub n' tuck, boi?
Osmyrn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the Jeremy Clarkson.
Chicago1871 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suspenders/braces and pants worn above the hip are a fat mans best friend.
LegandLeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What search words did you use to find this specific image?
I_PEE_WITH_THAT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the classic chub 'n' tuck.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exact thing i pictured lol
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sad part is that it looks 10x worse just letting your shirt hover 5" away from your jeans.
And if you work in an office, you kinda have to tuck, so the only way around it is to eat healthier & exercise and work to have a better body.
7wk1110 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a modest gut, and I've found that wearing a sweater or vest over a tucked in button up does a lot to hide that hideous bulge.
RedGh0st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the good old "chub n tuck"
PeterQuincyTaggart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He did say a "bit" bigger, not 100 lbs overweight though.
yes_but_why ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whole thread is laced with euphemisms anyway
Mikkito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's when you get a longer/slightly bigger shirt and untuck it a little more.
Excuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ethen has the best chub n tucks.
breathemusic87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
maybe your pants are a little too tight?
yes_but_why ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I find that my pants don't fit right, I put down my fork :P
breathemusic87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:11 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I had the same self-control lol!
Badcompany18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I feel like this is Jeremy clarkson.
Jacksonspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A. This reminded me of my technical theatre teacher. He's pretty neat.
B. It still makes you look more professional an clean-cut, even if your big. It's better than wearing something that looks like a pillow case.
teawar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:19 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The solution to this is sweater vests. If you get one that fits well, it at least obscures the gut-tuck and looks classy.
bolerobell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't just get shirts that fit. Get pants that fit too. Also the waist is a line centered around your belly button not the tops of your hips.
People who tuck their pants underneath their belly are wearing their pants wrong.
yes_but_why ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:48:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh like this? Totally slimming
beerlobster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:39:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the true waist might be around your belly button, but that's still not where pants go. For fat people, somehow dragging normal jeans that high up will just yield mashed genitals and this http://i.imgur.com/RRIEiwD.jpg
ferlessleedr ยท 280 points ยท Posted at 19:15:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh...this might work for guys who have a little bit of belly, but I've got a bit more and when I tuck in my shirt my belly it really highlights how fat I am when my gut hangs over my belt. if I leave my shirt untucked then it's harder to tell.
And yeah, I'm taking up running to fix this.
mihametl ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 21:11:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You cant outrun a bad diet. Want to lose weight? Eat less. If you're at a stage when your gut is over your belt running will just blow out your knees.
ferlessleedr ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 21:26:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm doing that too. MyFitnessPal is my new best friend, and my water consumption is way up.
Jealousy123 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:40:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If things start to get overwhelming and you feel like you need a break, CUT EXERCISE. Diet is at least 10x more important than exercise so if you've gotta cut back on one to maintain your sanity then keep the diet going but slack on the exercise.
Whether it's strength training or cardio, the main point isn't to lose weight it's to get healthier. With ST you are trying to build muscle. With cardio you're building up your cardiovascular system, making your heart and lungs stronger, and conditioning your body to deal with the stress of running. Burning fat is an afterthought of ST and a bonus side-effect of cardio.
But diet, diet is king of weight loss. Diet is all ABOUT shedding fat and it's great at it. Diet + Time is the best equation for a healthier weight.
somewhatintrigued ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:44:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice! And please remember to keep it up, even if you can't see any results immediately. They're there and will show if you're disciplined. It's insane how much confidence you can get from eating smart and exercising as much as you're comfortable with. And then slowly start progressing into the uncomfortable zone.
Sveet_Pickle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed in my struggle to keep the weight off that other people see the progress before I do, and it's usually a good confidence boost if they say something out of the blue.
ferlessleedr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:24:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to see progress when you only see somebody once a week or even less frequently, and when you're not looking at them all the time. You're almost always looking at some part of yourself at least, and you probably look in a mirror multiple times per day. It's hard to see results yourself until they're really impossible to ignore.
Think of when you were a child. Did you ever notice "Hey, I'm taller now" out of the blue? Probably not. But when you look at those notches in the kitchen doorway marked with your birthday you notice that you're much taller now than you were then.
TNUGS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stick with it. try lifting too! after a few months, you can start to see progress, even if you're still losing weight.
Tehjaliz ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:39:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaactually, I've picked up running a few months ago, and very quickly I realized my mindset was starting to change to "ok, after all the efforts you've put into running, are you reaaaally sure you want to waste it by gobbling up all this shit?".
anachronic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:22:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Same here. Before I started jogging & exercising last year, I'd come home exhausted and stressed and frequently reach for some not-so-healthy food to make me feel better.
Now, after jogging for a half hour and lifting some weights, I come home energized and actually crave healthier options.
Today I ran for the first time in 2 weeks and I got home feeling awesome and made a giant salad with some chick peas because I just didn't want anything unhealthy.
Killer_Tomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My thinking is more like this
King-Salamander ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:19:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who used to be a lot bigger but lost the weight, /r/keto was a life saver for me. I followed it closely and I did the Couch to 5K program and saw results really quickly.
dt204196 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this. My initial answer was lose weight, but if you're already at a healthy weight that wouldn't apply, and I was sure someone would have already mentioned it anyways.
But yeah, running (cardio in general) burns so FEW calories that it's really more a benefit to your overall health, but not so much your physique. Weight truly is almost entirely related to your diet; people want to fight that as much as they can, think they can keep eating the same as long as they workout, it's simply not the case.
byron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't get this position. If you run 20 miles a week that's easily 2k calories; an entire days worth!
dt204196 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you did there ;)
The problem is, you most likely didn't get overweight by eating 2k calories a day, more like 2k calories a MEAL.
Cormath ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:58:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a fellow fat guy, buy bigger pants. They should be able to sit on your belly button, if they can't go up in size until they can. Then tucking them in will look a lot better.
GSlayerBrian ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:40:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny how some bigger people seem to have this stigma concerning their pant size. They'd rather buy 38" pants that can't go over their gut, hence making them look sloppy, than buy 48"+ pants that would fit them comfortably and look better. The arbitrary number is more important to them than how they actually look and feel. Kindof sad. (And this is coming from a big guy.)
batbitback ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:06:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I did it because it helped me lose weight. I figured if I kept going up in pant sizes, I'd just keep letting myself go. So I stuck at 32 and if pants didn't fit and hurt to wear, I still wore them as a reminder to stop eating so much fatty. It actually helped me lose some weight and now I'm comfy in size 30" and feel great.
I looked at it as a goldfish in a fishbowl. I'll stop eating so much if I keep feeling like shit. It worked.
GSlayerBrian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's great that it worked for you. But myself and a couple of friends have been about the same size since high school, over ten years now (actually they've gained some and I've lost some), and I've been dressing stylishly and comfortably for those ten years while they've remained dressed sloppily and uncomfortably for a decade. So mileage may vary.
batbitback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, I did it 10 years out and I put on some weight, and it helped me lose it. But I still dressed nicely, and part of it is that I want to look good. It all depends on what you want. Obviously you want to look decent and they don't care, or at least not enough.
TurquoiseLuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh jeez, I thought 32 was ok and now I feel fat :(
batbitback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel bad. 32 is great. I just have a small waist/frame. I have friends skinnier than I with a 32 inch waist.
Big boned isn't a thing, but guy's do have different size frames.
jesuslolwat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never worn my pants over my gut. I wear them below and wear a 36. My gut hurts from hanging over. I'm gonna look for some new pants and try the over gut wear.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks something like this: http://imgur.com/UpYDJKm
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a big guy but I do have a bit of a beer belly and it made a world of difference to go up one pant size.
The old pant size I wore looked very tight on me and when I sat down or bent over, my belly was VERY visible. Going up a size it's a lot less in-your-face.
It was mentally hard admitting that I'm in my 30's and can't wear the same size I wore in high school, but it made me look & feel a lot better.
Spunky_Narwhal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:58:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More important than running in losing weight is controlling your diet. Don't expect to start jogging 1-3 miles and suddenly become 10% body fat. The diet is way more important than the exercise in losing weight: it's easier to not eat 500 calories than it is to run it off.
I'm not saying you shouldn't run, running is definitely an excellent thing to do regularly, just don't get discouraged if you find running alone doesn't produce the results you're looking for, take your diet into consideration as well.
Now get out there and be the person you want to be, I'm rooting for you!
leadCactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's that bad, consider swimming instead. Running with all that weight on you can do a lot of damage to your joints
flyinthesoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be very careful though. Swimming makes you hungry as hell, because you work out more muscles (if you do it right). And if you don't control your eating afterwards, you'll end up eating even more and gaining weight. Source: me after swimming a mile every other day. I gained 5-7 pounds in a month. Some of that was definitely muscle, I could see it in my legs and shoulders, but the rest was fat. All my fault though, I'd get home after working out and I'd destroy the kitchen, something that didn't happen on my normally sedentary life. You can definitely gain weight even if you just eat proteins and veggies, which is what I mostly do. Keep tabs on it!
But I 100% agree that swimming is better than running for someone who's overweight or obese. Don't destroy your knees/feet!
Mafiaterror ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:54:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hate to be this guy but if you really want to do something about it then running won't be enough if you don't change your diet. As mentioned in this threat cutting soda for water is an amazing start.
diegothecat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shoutout to /r/loseit
Good luck!
AnAverageVaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can not emphasize how import diet adjustments are. Keep track of how much you eat and try cutting out soda or other sugary drinks (Juice is common. Surprisingly sugary.)
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you haven't already tried it, C25K is a game-changer.
I went from NEVER having exercised a day in my life to now at age 35, I can run 28 minutes straight, and I'm going longer / faster every week.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take up a diet.
Ashuvain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Running is fine, but you also need to eat less.
Civilized_Hooligan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Changing your diet will work a lot more effectively than just running. Hell, you may not even have to run if you eat filling foods and keep a caloric deficit.
svesrujm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:14:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Running won't fix that.
[deleted] ยท 269 points ยท Posted at 17:53:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SeeYou_Cowboy ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 20:04:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's tough for us strangely shaped males. I wear a totally normal dress shirt size you can find virtually anywhere, but my neck needs to be 17.5" for me to button it closed and wear a tie.
You can't find a shirt in my size that has anything more than maybe 16.25" around the neck. I deliberately go to the Big and Tall stores to get the correct neck size and then have to get the bodies tailored to fit. Expensive.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:24:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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t1smth30 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:58:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same size, minus a half inch in the neck, same problem. Same problem, all of the store have big and tall. Nothing for someone who's just tall, and especially fitted right. Online is always the answer.
Laureltess ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:38:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seconded. I buy my bras online because no stores around sell my size. It takes more effort but I don't look like shit.
hydrocarbonjovi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. When I found out that the store I work for carries a 36F online, I ordered 4. It's not cheap, but I want fitting bras, dammit. Now I gotta wait for them to ship.
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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:00:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 6' and have a 6'4.5" wingspan, so my ape index is a little rediculous. I just roll all sleeves up to avoid the tailor. Some day I will go that route, but it's a completely accepted look.
Assdolf_Shitler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss wearing flannels and wool button ups that cover my wrists...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a Mainer, I have still yet to find one that does. :(
Jamon_Iberico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
6'2 with a 6'7 wingspan. I guess I am an ape...
DeathbyHappy ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:39:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's me with pants. Even in my best shape, I'm a dude with a ghetto bootie. So I have to buy my jeans 1 waist size bigger to compensate.
bobbybouchier ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:19:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have this issue as well. If it fits well in the waist it is always wag too tight on my ass and thighs. If it fits my lags, then I have like 3 inches of extra waist.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:58:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm opposite. I'm a woman with a high waist and straight hips and no ass. It's not flat really it just doesn't smile as much as It used to.
Women's clothing is so inconsistent in measurement and sizing, but if I find pants that fit in the legs and hips and don't give me extra folds in the crotch, they are usually too tight in the waist. Fit in the waist, the ass sags.
I usually use a small elastic band around the button hole to secure my pants. The zipper still closes, but that extra inch or two flexibility eliminates a lot of muffin top.
megagreg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After years of cycling I have this problem too. I need fat-guy pants with a 32" waist and a 36" leg.
TheLarryMullenBand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I cycle a lot too and also have the ghetto booty + big thigh problem. I played soccer for years growing up as well, so it's basically all self-inflicted :(
megagreg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, you're like a combination of me, the cyclist, and my wife, the soccer player. We figure our kids will either be track cyclists, speed skaters or trampolinists.
GeneralSquatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a Cyclist but almost same issue with 32" legs and a 36"-38" with massive thighs and calves. Jeans that fit all around great i have found 2 pairs in 5 years maybe... My thighs are and calves are sculpted like a statue of a Greek god
DeathbyHappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. So you compensate by wearing your belt as crazy tight as possible
rmphys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out different cuts. Levi makes a shit ton of different cuts for different body styles (probably the most diverse for non-custom men's pants).
NO_TOUCHING__lol ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:35:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Protip: as long as your neck isn't TOO ridiculous, just take a minute and think about what that tie actually does....
But seriously, if the neck hole is not tiny, just leave the top button undone and use the tie. Wayyyyyy more comfortable this way.
RounderKatt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:47:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was literally going to post this. I have a 30 inch waist and 17.5 inch neck. I get every dress shirt tailored.
mlmayo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found Henry Rollins!
BullMarketWaves ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. That neck has to be like a 28.
RubiconGuava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My neck's not that thick, but my chest-waist ratio completely fucks trying to get shirts that follow my body shape. I wish I could afford tailoring.
GeneralSquatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel your pain! broad shoulders and chest with small gut but long torso so xl fits a little tight up top but not enough length and B&T are generally to open or big. (XLT) so i have to suffer the 2xl and look a little fatter than i am
RounderKatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cheaper than you might think. I pay like 15 or 20 per shirt
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Custom clothing is my new favorite thing. I could never find dress shirts that fit, but I just got my first shirt from Proper Cloth and I love it!
I am also broke now, but it was worth it.
kennethjc ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:55:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only do they fit better, you get to pick out some awesome color or pattern combos, get your initials embroidered on them and even french cuffs. I get compliments from colleagues every time I wear my button downs instead of polos. I pay $30 a piece on a Hong Kong business trips from a master tailor a local customer recommended me to.
Bonus, I get my jeans hemmed too. I'm in between the standard sizes of 30 and 32 inseam, more like a 31 which I can never find.
Next up I need to find size 14 socks instead of 11-13 or 15-17.
anduin1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother brought a bunch of shirts he had tailored while in Hong Kong. They fit him great and the material is top notch.
RubiconGuava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
15.5" neck, 44" chest, 30" waist. Shirts and formalwear are the bane of my life because I can't afford tailored.
rmphys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They make neck extenders for shirt that are like 3 bucks. This will make the collar wider, so you should go with a wider knot (like a full Windsor)
CyberneticPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are a bunch of websites that sell bespoke (custom made) shirts that will cost you the same or less as buying big and tailoring down, and will look a lot nicer. I don't want to make a recommendation because the place I got mine shut down, but googling "bespoke shirts" will hook you up with options.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
might be cheaper at this point to go with a made-to-measure place like proper cloth
Theycallmesocks13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 5'6, muscular- around 195lbs, and have a 17.5" neck too. I hate renting tuxes. last one I got fitted for, he did the neck last, I said "and this is where the shirt will hang to my knees" He chuckled and measured me and with a nearly pitiful look on his face said "I'm sorry"
SMORKIN_LABBIT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just order from a company like Charles Tyrwhitt online probably cheaper when they have a sale then what you pay in stores. You can basically order a custom made shirt. These are really nice shirts.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Custom made shirts? They're really not that expensive and will probably look a lot better than tailored big and tall shirts.
ammonthenephite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use these little guys!
I'm somewhat similar. To get a fitted shirt that actually fits, the neck is too small. So I currently use two of these for the neck collar (a tie covers them up), and then one on my left wrist to accommodate an over sized watch. This way the shirt fits like it should everywhere, and no compromise in fit has to be made.
StopReadingMyUser ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:06:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The day I discovered Medium Slim-fits was a heavenly one... clothes that hug are pretty nice.
TimeTomorrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:22 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Extra large in extra slim fit is still fat guy sized
corsair238 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem here is that I have such odd proportions that what fits my shoulders leaves me swimming in the torso/stomach and what fits my stomach traps my arms to my sides. Then there's the problem of finding long enough arm lengths to for my arms. Then there's the matter of finding 30:36 jeans/pants.
MatttheBruinsfan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:40:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shirts that are tight around or under the arms make me uncomfortable (and trigger the sweat waterworks), so I tend to dress for a size or two larger than I am. Comfy in a loose shirt is better than looking like I'm about to be investigated by the IRS in a tight one.
ClearlyDense ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My husband has a problem with this, he's got a long torso and has trouble finding shirts that are long enough. Usually the ones that are long enough, are also gigantically wide and make him look like he's swimming. There's no big and tall near us, so he doesn't really have any options. And you're absolutely right, he looks like he doesn't know how to dress simply because he can't find shirts that fit
thehappyheathen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got some shirts fitted while I was interviewing for jobs. Got a job where I sit at a desk all day, and now those shirts are snug, look awkward and are uncomfortable. Nothing looks worse than wearing clothes you don't fit in, and getting close fitting clothes puts you in that state more quickly. I am losing weight, but, in the meantime, I have shirts I can't wear.
arclathe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in average shape, a little chubby around the middle but I can't get away with a nonfitted button up shirt. Sometimes it will look okay from the front but then I turn to the side and oh 15 feet of extra material just hanging straight out of my back. How does this look good on anyone besides those going for that 90s look.
anachronic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a few guys at work who do this. They're skinny guys but they buy these massive billowing dress shirts that are obviously like 2-3 sizes too big in the chest.
I want to pull them aside and be like "dude, slim fit exists for guys like you".
Ashuvain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every goddamn button up shirt I try is the wrong size. I am slim and of short-average height, and the shirts I try are either way too long (and I don't want to tuck my shirts in) or too baggy. No exceptions.
SMORKIN_LABBIT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People don't know their sizes for shirts or how it should fit....ESPECIALLY sleeves my god people. With your arm at your side your shirt cuff should sit no lower then the top bone of your thumb, the knuckle. The sleeve seem of the shoulders end at the edge of your collar bone NOT the meat of your shoulder. Same shit with suit jackets. Sleeve seem EDGE OF COLLAR BONE not shoulder. This fit is absolutely key as you can't tailor this part of a jacket. With the top button buttoned slide your right hand under the jacket onto your chest, palm down, hand open, and then clench your fingers into fist. That is the maximum space there should be any more and the jacket must be tailored and brought in. Jacket sleeves sit at the top of the wrist brushing the palm and exposing about 1/4 inch of shirt.
Mother of god does it look bad when men don't wear suits or button ups properly.
ragingduck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Round is a shape
TimeTomorrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:59 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are tall and in good shape, they don't make the right size. If you are to tall to fit a large/34 inch sleeve, eeevverything is a parachute.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:55 on January 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get exactly what you mean, but those of us with "strange" body types tend to have trouble finding well fitting clothes. I'm short and stocky. Most of the clothes made for people my height are also made for people that aren't as "thick." I'm not chunky, but my shoulders are a bit wide. On top of that, I need a 29-30 in the waist, but most of the pants made in my length tend to be too small in the waist. It's a pain in the ass and probably most of the reason I wear the same clothes for years.
NeonBodyStyle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:49:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with pants. My friends all have athletic legs that would look great in slimmer or tapered jeans. It breaks my heart when they wear relaxed fit dad jeans instead. I'd kill to fit into some 511s.
RVelts ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:32:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I run a ton (40+ miles a week) and lift at the gym on the other days. I'm very fit and athletic, so buying Jeans are difficult. Usually I pick up a size 32 and it's just right on the waist, and potentially even baggy below my knees, but my thighs are large and hard to fit into. Levi 511 are tiny and I wouldn't wear those unless I was very skinny and unathletic. 514 is usually good for most people, but again too tight on me and most other people who do a lot of running but still lift weights.
I finally went to Banana Republic and got a pair of their "regular/straight" jeans. They were snug for a little while but loosened up over a week or two of wearing them to work. Much better now. The waist is actually a little loose (I got a size 33) but I wear a belt and it's good.
NeonBodyStyle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have the same problem but it's because my thighs are just fat. I wear the 541, which has more generous thighs but tapers at the knee, and I was able to find some with I guess some spandex in the denim so they're stretchy and comfortable.
RVelts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard good things about the 541 as well. I didn't get a chance to try on any Levi's before I found the pair I ended up buying. Maybe for my next pair of jeans... next year...
etihw_retsim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in the same boat; I'll have to give those a try.
189203973 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny, I had the exact same problem and I just picked up some 33/30 Banana Republic jeans. Like you said, a bit loose on the waist, but for once I have jeans that fit!
rmphys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you tried Levi's 513. They are a bit bigger in the waist and ass but skinnier in the legs.
RVelts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those seem too slim based on the name. 513 is Slim Straight. 513 is just Straight.
etihw_retsim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to know where they even find relaxed fit jeans that are actually loose. I can barely squeeze my thighs into any pair with a small enough waist. (And the few fits I've seen that accommodate both taper too much and look line girls' jeans to me.)
rmphys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
511's are just a little too tight in the ass for me, but damn I love my 513's!
ToastyMcG ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:31:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So ladies get dresses but men can't get breezy shirts? It's the same concept, that feeling of not wearing clothes while still actually wearing clothes.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:12:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yep, it's not fair, but that's how it is.
estafan7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have the downside of a metabolism that allows me to change weight really fast. I get fat, then lose weight all the time. The worst part is trying to find nice fitting clothes.
WaitWhatting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless eminem?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The other problem with being in good shape/athletic is clothes get more expensive if you want them to fit you properly.
I used to be able to wear $20-30 button ups that were classic fit. Now I gotta have slim fit/tailor fit and that's almost always going to cost more.
Its nice though, knowing I need a shirt that is 'slim fit'.
rolata ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:30:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
on a side note: not every fashion trend will suit your body type. What looks good on a mannequin may or may not look good on you. I have seen mroe often than not, women in particular buying a dress that "looks so pretty". What they need to consider is will they look prettier after wearing it or not
AnorhiDemarche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So much this.
I work in an op shop and so many women come in buying things that are not good for their body types and make them look awkward just because it fits. We literally teach our regulars how to shop for their body type.
Yuri-Girl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love flannels for this. If I wanna hide my stomach I just put a shirt on underneath it and only button up the bottom few buttons.
ROO3D ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:13:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not totally sure what you mean by this, expand?
Or is it as simple as using jeans that fit body type?
tamor911 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:30:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure jeans fit well (i.e. not too loose or too tight around the waist or thighs). Tapered or slim fit jeans from the knee down are in style right now but that's subjective. Also make sure the jeans aren't too long or short. As for the color, dark indigo washes are more in style compared to lighter stonewashed ones.
mkosmo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boot cut every day
TiffanyCassels ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:57:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On this note: guys, please get more than one pair of shoes. Nothing ruins a nice outfit faster than a beat-up old pair of black runners or shoes that don't match the style you're wearing (eg: if you're wearing dress pants match them with a pair of loafers). It's not going to make you any less manly if you have a few pairs of shoes.
Meaty-clackers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chucks, all day every day.
TiffanyCassels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chucks are hit and miss. Sometimes guys wearing chucks have a charming David Tennant Doctor Who thing going on... and other times it just looks bad.
trackxcwhale ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:21:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
depends. If its cool and you look good wearing it, who gives a fuck if something is a little big. Its when you wear shit thats too fitted that looks really dumb
computeraddict ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:02:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At 6' and 145 soaking wet, all shirts are overly large and fit awkwardly or don't have long enough sleeves. Don't even get me started on finding pants with the right measurements.
What I need to do is date a tailor.
pogrmman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the same build with a 6' 3" wingspan -- any shirt that fits my torso had ridiculously small sleeves.
Drudicta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been buying the "in" clothes from last summer, and they are all REALLY long. But they fit close to my chest, and I can't buy a smaller size. It's weird.
fritopie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Imo "dress a little nicer" is hard for a lot of people to grasp. What's considered nice varies a lot from person to person in a lot of different ways. Fit, however, is a pretty solid thing. Go look up how a shirt or pair of pants is supposed to fit. That part isn't hard. The "hard" part is searching in the stores for items that fit you right. Also, taking some of your nicer quality clothes to a tailor is a big help. Not only will they make sure your shit fits you right, but they can give good solid advice on fit and shapes specifically for you.
NickeKass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about tall guys? If i get a large shirt its not baggy but doesn't cover my stomach correctly. If I get an xl shirt it covers me but it looks horrible and baggy.
Dumbwaters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard that to be true, the chub n tuck thing. I need to keep my shirt tucked for work and it absolutely makes me look heavier than I am. It seems like anyone who isn't totally slim waisted automatically looks paunchy when the shirt is tucked.
vj7usa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think this too but I bought a pair of dress pants that are a bit stretchable and about one size bigger as well as a nice dress shirt that wasn't slim fitted but covers the area well. Now people think I'm "skinny" even though I clearly have a beer belly when I have my shirt off.
SC2Humidity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wear a lot of flannel patterned shirts, should I tuck them in anyway? People always shocked when I tell them I'm overweight (when I don't really look the part when I dress the way I normally do).
WhiteBlackflame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flannel patterned or actually flannel? Flannel shirts are pretty casual and in general aren't meant to be tucked in, but if you're just talking about plaid shirts then they can be worn either tucked in or not depending on the formality of the outfit.
SC2Humidity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Patterened...Sadly I don't own any of the actual material right now.
Etherius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you're just plain fat?
Matt2486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fit is absolutely everything. Look good, play good.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oversized tees are fashionable.
Dontmakemechoose2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Came here to say something similar. Wear clothes that actually fit you. It makes a huge difference. I've seen guys that are overweight look better by wearing jeans that fit and an untucked button up shirt that fits. Nice shoes too.
Peteolicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. I do like my slightly baggy shirts. It gives me room to feel comfortable. Plus a "long fit" shirt is actually in style now. It's just a regular shirt that hangs a little low. I do get what you're saying thought. There is a fine line between a little big and too big to look normal
thtgyovrthr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/malefashionadvice is a great place to go, for even basic starting tips for the uninitiated.
YoungAdult_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of shirts that fit awkwardly, does anyone here wear St. John's Bay flannels? They're nice material with nice patterns, but they fit awkward as fudge. Like they have wide bottoms. I just got a batch of them for Christmas and was wondering if anyone felt the same. I'm afraid to ask /r/malefashionadvice.
retailextraordinaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just to play devil's advocate my boss has a huge gut and wears shirts 2 sizes too small and tucks his shirt in. It's really awkward looking so be careful with this one.
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, can't do it with shirts that are too small if you want to pull this off
SOUP_erman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another level to this: Clothes can be labeled your size and might be long enough in the arms and to the waist but still might not looks like they fit you because, well I'm not sure how to put this but they're made for someone heavier than you, so there's extra material. I've noticed that male t shirts from American Eagle fit me tighter and are more stylish than those from other stores
be_bo_i_am_robot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes!!!
I'm not super-fashionable. At all. I stick with the basics. I'm not very formal, and rarely do I dress past "business casual." And I'm not brand-conscious. But this I do know: fit is way more important than price, or brand.
Perfectly fitting cheap clothes look much better than ill-fitting or baggy expensive clothes.
You can look like a million bucks in a cheap suit, if it fits correctly. You can look like a chump in a Armani, if you take it right off the rack and wear it ill-fitted, like you're wearing your daddy's suit.
Fit is king. Take the time to learn how to wear clothes that fit your body. Basic tailoring (nothing extreme is needed) can make such a world of difference!
asterope11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always say this to my coworkers - fit your body, not the size you think you want. A skinny girl in pants too tight will look worse vs a chubby girl in clothes that fit her body.
JMurray1121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about those with a bigger chest? I mean with guys
MrDerpsicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're bigger in the stomach area, lose some goddamn weight
richardyzx9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My go to rule is fit before brand. You could be wearing a $20 suit from Goodwill that is tailored well and you'd look better than someone wearing a $2000 dollar Armani suit that isn't tailored well
Staleina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the tucking suggestion for those that are a big bigger. I see larger individuals with shirts that are too small too often and you can see their belly poking out from underneath. Perhaps the shirt fit before than shrunk, I don't know, but it's something that draws the eye pretty quickly.
pinkmeanie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ELI5?
shroomenheimer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love finding clothes that actually fit me. I'm fairly tall and way too skinny but when I find somewhat long clothes that are slim cut I often get compliments
Cloudy_mood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing that was sort of annoying until I figured it out: If I ever bought "Straight" jeans, even though they fit my legs fine, eventually the butt area would stretch and it always looked like I had no ass, and my butt would be baggie and saggy.
Finally when I was at one store one of the employees suggested skinny jeans(which I laughed st at first), but when I tried my size on they fit really well. They're just a tad too tight on my calves, but they frame my butt and lower body SO much better than a pair of baggy jeans.
DWillows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but i love overly large clothes, they're so much comfier.
The_Specialest_K ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I support this wholeheartedly. Since I'm skinny, tighter clothes truly do look better on me.
victoriasbitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are you on about I've seen fat guys do that and they look like a fucking ice cream cone
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When did I say fat? I said bit bigger in the stomach area, so more like a beer belly.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:25:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you're saying that guys who tuck their shirt in look like ice cream cones. A couple of coworkers and I hide our beer bellys pretty well and you can't even notice when we tuck our dress shirts in. Definitely does not look anywhere close to an "ice cream cone".
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:33:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha funny thing is I'm considered "fat" by Asian standards but normal or skinny by American standards, go figure. It's the craziest when it comes to celebrity judgments in Asian countries.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is counter-intuitive. Usually tucking in makes me feel like my fat gut is on display.
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't mean people with huge guts, just a slight beer belly. Lots of people who dress business casual buy the right shirt and are able to hide their beer belly well.
ofoot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Skinny guy here. Skinnier pants and womens button-ups serve me well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
people with pear-shaped bodies should never wear pear colored clothing... Grimace.
bobbybouchier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I have a disproportionately large chest, and an average waist what type of shirt is appropriate?
nixiedust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And get to know your local tailor/seamstress (many laundromats have one on staff if you can't find a standalone shop). Having clothes that actually fit your body makes even inexpensive items look really good.
DishwasherTwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes it isn't a choice. For me, it's not that there's a belly it needs to cover, but I just have an unusually long torso. Most shirts my size just don't fit so I have to go up a size or two to prevent me from showing the top of my ass everytime I raise my arms or bend over the slightest bit. There are a few companies that make long shirts that fit better, but none of them look at all interesting. And then the problem becomes that there's just a giant tube of solid color that just looks bad.
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel ya man. I have much shorter arms than a lot of people so I have to get my nice shirts and suits tailored a lot. It costs a bit more out of pocket but it's well worth the confidence and style that comes with dressing well.
DishwasherTwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't think clothes would make me feel so much better. I never really wore jeans until well into my adulthood. I was the kid that wore khaki cargo pants until his mid20s. I recently bought my first pair of jeans in well over a decade and goddamn do I look good in them. The first thing I did was trash all of the khaki clothes I owned. I feel so much more confident now because I just look better. It's an amazing difference brought on by a simple pair of jeans. I never would have expected it.
datchilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a big person just accept you're going to have to get your close tailored/hemmed. You're rarely going to find clothes that fit you like they would everyone else.
RealJuanDoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Skinny male. Clothes that fit make me look hella worse. I prefer "wiggerish baggy" opposed to "white Ethiopian".
solzhen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or take things that don't fit quite right with you to a tailor. Can work wonders. Mass produced wear doesn't fit everyone, even fit people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
baggy clothes till I d.i.e.
hip hop culture in my blood.
HoyaSaxons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a fat guy, I disagree... tucking my shirt only accentuates my fatness as all of a sudden I have a gut hanging over my belt. I would suggest finding nice button down shirts that are styled to purposely not be tucked. Vertical line patterns are best. That way, it elongates your mid-section but doesn't let others exactly see how fat you are.
mrthbrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All shirts are either too short or too wide for me :(
Kev-Mo88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see too many people attempting to wear what they THINK looks good or what they WANT to look good, but it usually just results in showing all of their unflattering features even more. My girlfriend and I think its fun to point these out to each other when walking or sitting in areas with a lot of people (amusements parks, concerts, mall, etc) and we usually notice how often girls or woman attempt to wear booty shorts when they shouldnt be, or guys with baggy pants to their knees. lol
jargoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is one thing I really struggled with. When you have a fat buddha, you think tucking in your shirt will accentuate it. But nope, walking around with your button-down shirt untucked like a slob is what makes people notice your fat gut. It's the equivalent of going into the pool with your shirt on.
Bmandoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really just wear clothes that fit. Though this can be difficult if you're in the process of losing weight. It is striking how much of a difference properly fitting clothes make.
stuffandmorestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice clothes looks like shit if they don't fit. Shit close can look a LOT better if they fit right.
I've got some navy blue tee-shirt that I wear when I'm just hanging out at home or don't really care if anyone sees me. To me it's just a regular t-shirt, no fancy brand or anything like that. But my ex used to love it. She thought I looked so good in it, because well, I did look good in it. It just fit perfectly. Just the right length, just the right width.
It's not necessarily WHAT your clothes look like, its HOW they look.
Nasdasd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I hate it when guys that have a beer belly wear a shirt several sizes too big that looks like a dress to try to 'hide' it
A) Don't be ashamed of your body, some people like a gut on a man
B) If you're trying to hide it... That only draws attention to it
C) It looks really bad
EattheRudeandUgly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Umm. I never noticed how large Aziz Ansari's gut was until I saw him in a tucked in shirt
Ancel3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it looks ugly, but bigger shirts are just so damn comfortable. I'm a "big" guy, but I like to go a size up because I live in Florida and it's really annoying when your shirt sticks to your back from the sweat.
If I'm going to be indoors, then yeah, I dress right - But for a day at the park, I a big shirt is amazing.
chuckymcgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This may often involve walking out of certain stores entirely because nothing fits well. And that's fine. Don't waste your money on clothing that doesn't fit excellently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wear 3xl tall tees every day and I ain't stoppin' for no one
thesweetestpunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Important fatshion rule: everyone already knows that you are fat, so you can either try to hide it - which never works - or you can embrace it and work with it.
Find things that fit well, that work with your contours, and that complement your body instead of burying it in fabric.
Zapsie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if I tuck the shirt in, I won't be able to hide a half-chub by draping my shirt over it, and they'll see how overly tight my khakis are
CasuallyProfessional ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AND NO FUCKING PLEATS!
Did you know that Dockers were predominantly designed for the growing waistline of post-World War Americans? Someone had the idea that pleats help slim the figure.
That someone is an idiot. Buy a good pair of slacks and invest in a tailor. A decent one isn't that expensive.
Hell, get a credit card to Banana Republic if you're tall or average to athletic build. Use their sale days to get fantastic fitting suits and a free/discounted tailor. Seriously, it changed my professional life.
Mateofeds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're bigger but not too big, opt for nice sweaters, they make you look jacked instead of flabby
FarSightXR-20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right style of jeans. So you mean no skinny jeans, right?
Nerf190 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you have a muffin top and it flops over whenever you tuck your shirt in?
tradingten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:24:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please please for the love of god don't buy and wear button-down shirts, this is not the 80's.
tahiko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tucking the shirt in makes you look business like (depending on the shirt) but certainly not thinner
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the person. For my coworkers and I, it definitely covers up the beer belly and makes us look athletic haha
tahiko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably depends on how much youre overweight as well ;) whenever i see a rather overweight man with a tucked shirt, showing all the fatrolls i always think man you would be better off not tucking that shirt
vj7usa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I don't mean like obese but just a bit of a beer belly, which is more normal than not for a guy in his 20s or 30s working in the corporate world
tahiko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, then tucking is preferable ;)
UZworm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black slacks.
Nothing but black slacks.
ALWAYS WORKS
MAG7C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coming from the (business casual) corporate world as a gravitationally challenged person, I've never been a fan of tucking in shirts, especially golf/polo shirts. I eventually started wearing bowling style shirts which have no tail & can be left untucked. I realize some people hate these but I think they look good when sized correctly and don't have lame patterns.
Some might say they look a little sloppy but I find that preferable to the stuffed sausage look. Lesser of two evils and all that. Meanwhile I'm working on the whole losing weight thing...
InternetConquistador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a big fella with (not a brag here) huge shoulders and arms and a medium sized gut, this is is harder than I would like it to be. Designer button ups are cut for manlets, not bears. This ain't no bullshit, but I see 'Slim Cut' XXL shirts quite often. Fuck you Nordstroms!
BerryGuns ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:15:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or lose weight
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:55:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less ur Eminem
theStork ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:04:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually that's the opposite of what you should do. Generally speaking larger men will want to wear somewhat looser clothing to conceal their weight. When larger men tuck in their shirts, they will have stomach pudge sticking out over their pants. Leaving the shirt untucked draws less attention to your gut. For more formal situations where you need to tuck in your shirt, a well-fitting blazer is great for covering up a gut.
stealingyourpotatos ยท 251 points ยท Posted at 17:30:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm a pretty thin dude who has to buy large shirts because I'm too tall for medium. There's also nowhere near me that sells medium shirts. What do?
Edit: Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I'm gonna start ordering New slim fits online!
dryhumpback ยท 294 points ยท Posted at 17:37:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JC Penny has talls, check it out online.
stealingyourpotatos ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:38:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You da real mvp
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:27:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LateralThinkerer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:40:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Or learn to sew - taking a shirt in isn't as hard as it seams (okay, couldn't resist that).
I learned how to do the basics in grad school from a girlfriend; it wasn't perfect-perfect (if you're going to a job interview/meet the head of state, pay a tailor) but it was better than the original variety.
Not_really_Spartacus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:57:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
L.L. Bean also sells Medium-Talls. Some of my favorite shirts come from them. It's such a pain to find places that sell talls though.
Jedi_Outcast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Worst comes to worst, you can buy casual dress shirts that will actually fit, and you'll get bonus point for dressing nicer.
Which I recommend, (The ladies love it).
PromptCritical725 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:36:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This, except not limited to JC Penney.
I find that large shirt fit great but are too short. Tall sizes are exactly what the doctor ordered. I even have some Tall under shirts now so they don't untuck inside a tucked shirt. Lifesaver.
The only really lousy part is that I'm a jeans and T-shirt guy and finding regular T-shirts that fit right is a pain. I either buy the XL for the (minimal) extra length but look baggy, or larges and risk my asscrack showing when I sit down.
latentnyc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:26:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So does Eddie Bauer, which you can get online. I'm a medium-tall in a polo shirt now.
thetreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:33:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As does Old Navy. Or find a place with styles you like and take them to a tailor. Don't have to do it with everything but for clothes you wear when you want to look nice it is essential. Wearing clothes that fit your body type is essential to looking good.
kushper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck JC Penny, they dont know shit when it comes to slim. I get my stuff from Express and online. Where i live its department store after department store. Being a slim guy looking for clothes that fit in a city of under 100,000 is a first world problem. /vent
dos8s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find an online outlet that builds shirts to your measurements. It's going to cost 2-3x more a dress shirt but in my opinion it's better to own a few quality articles of clothing that fit perfect over a large number of low quality poorly fitting items. Indochino and moderntailor are 2 vendors off the top of my head.
courtFTW ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:49:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JCPenney. One word, and it has another "e" in it.
TheFakeAndreAgassi ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:03:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a good tailor. This is the most important piece of advice I can give anyone who is looking to dress better. A good tailor can make a not so exceptional off the rack garment look like it was made for you. Buy less but buy better and have each garment tailored to you.
splicerslicer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:52:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seconding this. People say it's too expensive, but if looked at as part of the total cost of a piece of clothing, it's not that much.
ahhter ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:01:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Banana Republic has great shirts for tall thin people (like me!). They're a bit spendy but well worth it.
KingOfTheBongos87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Second this. Banana Republic slim fits are perfect, and the style is always ahead of the curve. They are a bit pricey, but they have great sales for card members. Like, $70 shirts for $15 type of sales.
Kep0a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly this is BR's pricing model, they price way above what it's worth and then put it on sale. Not to say they aren't good clothing, though.
_Soviet_Russia_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Old Navy has tall sizes online and they're pretty much the same
soproductive ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:55:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slim fits. I have the same issue, 5'10" and I'm only 130lbs. Depending on the brand of t-shirt, some larges look ridiculous on me. Thankfully I'm not too tall so this isn't always a huge issue, but it's not uncommon for me either.
watermama ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:03:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this. My husband is 6'1" and 150-155 lbs. I look for Slim Fit or Slim Cut. American Rag (I get them at Macy's) has some nice casual shirts, Express (if you're in the U.S.) has some dress shirts in a ton of colors.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm about the same height and weight as you (I think) and small fits me just fine.
soproductive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You talking t-shirts? What country is this? I haven't fit in a small for well over a decade.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UK. And yeah, T-Shirts.
soproductive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah ok, I'm in the US so maybe that's why? Still odd that there's that much of a difference. Maybe my torso is just longer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I assume that out bodies just vary in ways other than height/weight. Either that or my shirts don't fit me as well as I think they do. Could be a regional thing also.
Almostcomatose ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:22:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, either a medium is too short but a large is too wide? Yeah that's me too. You need to buy either slim fits or tall fits. Exclusively. slim fit large would be right up your alley
ashybarry ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:01:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
buy slimfit.
ViviWannabe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Online shopping is the best friend of anyone who wears an unusual size or fit. A lot of places will pay for shipping if you need to exchange for a different size.
MissMorri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gap, Banana Republic, and Old Navy sell Medium Tall clothes if you look online. So does Eddie Bauer, and I think Tommy Hilfiger. They also have a lot of sales online. My boyfriend is tall and usually wears medium too, if they're long enough.
_Soviet_Russia_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Old Navy has "tall" sizes for all their shirts and and jackets. They have a nice fitted look on me and are 2-3" longer than their normal ones. They're online only though, no tall sizes in stores. They usually have free shipping deals and good sales so I can buy shirts for 5-10 dollars.
shawnscottace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Banana Republic (also Gap and Old Navy) sells medium tall in most their men's tops online. I'm 6'5 195lbs and medium tall fits perfectly, its slim around the waist and chest but not too short like most mediums.
everysinglebear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turn it inside out. Have someone pin the shirt close to you so that it's tighter. Sew a straight line by the edge (make sure to go in reverse over your stitches on both ends to secure them) and then a second zig-zag line closer to your body so the seam never pops. Trim the ends, and voila! Shirt tailored just for you!
Robo3000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go post details over at /r/malefashionadvice in one of their recurring simple questions threads and I guarantee at least a few helpful suggestions and possibly even someone with the same body type giving you a lead on something perfect.
Darko-- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get slim fit or tailored fit. I'm 6'-7" 220 LB's of skinniness and I can find dress shirts that fit right.
BigEd781 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy decent shirts and find a good tailor or seamstress.
Flonomenal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See a tailor
droppern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat more and lift ;)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to a tailor and get them fitted.
Doongbuggy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
www.uniqlo.com
birdmommy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Costco has button down shirts for tall thin men. My husband takes something like a 15 1/2" neck 34" sleeve.
Finding casual shirts with long enough sleeves is a PITA though...
MrBokbagok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A good tailor is invaluable.
enyoron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy online from Asian retailers, they're all about the slim fits. Also, if you've stopped growing, get your nice formal and business clothes custom tailored. It's worth it.
Black-Blade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Charles tyrwhitt is great for this, I have a few friends who are really tall and skinny and the ultrasilm shirts look really good on them
jumpinjetjnet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My son is 6'4", and to get shirts that fit his length for his arms and torso, then takes them to a little old lady at a local dry cleaners that alters them to fit him better around the middle. He looks great, and his shirts look custom.
Isthisgoodenough69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really thin and 6'2" and I've found relatively inexpensive shirts at J Crew Factory. It's supposed to be lower quality, but price is low and they have slim fit options. They also have tall options. And I haven't had any problems with their t-shirt quality thus far.
josh4050 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out
daftmonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a brand you like and just order it online. I'm a strange fit. I have a couple of brands that fit me well. I buy from them religiously.
Batmanreject ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are good at keeping you clothes nice getting a few dress shirts tailored can be incredibly worth it. Especially for body types that don't fit the standard cuts.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Banana Republic Tailored Slim Fit Non-Iron dress shirts - the only dress shirts I've found that fit tall+thin properly
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at target at the mossimo big and tall t shirts. $12 and fit nicely. I'm 6'3 155 lbs.
outofshell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My husband has the same problem with shirts; we order all of his tees, dress shirts and sweaters from Lands' End - on the website you can filter their shirts for ones that come in "tall" and "tailored fit". Have also had some luck with tall shirts at Eddie Bauer.
umadbroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:32:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H&M
imacyber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a similar issue; shirts that fit me in the shoulders are too long in the arms.
imacyber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a similar issue; shirts that fit me in the shoulders are too long in the arms.
CrikeyMeAhm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:56:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to a tailor! Buy a cheap shirt at target, and spend $10 extra at a tailor to get it properly fitted. Just show up and say you want to have these shirts fitted. Since you're skinny, the tailor will probably take in the sides and around the arms and you will have a nice slim fit shirt that will feel great to wear. I'm serious, it makes a $15 shirt look like a $150 shirt on you. Doesn't matter if you're a bit chubby, a bit twig-like, or a bit neanderthal-looking, properly fitted clothes will make you look good.
Edit: The same goes for pants, if you find yourself having awkwardly fitting pants.
JakeStateFarm182 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lift weights and get swole. It's the only solution. /s
TheWhiteCrow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You say this sarcastically but squats have helped my pants fit better now that I have an ass.
gurlubi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
R/tallfashionadvice
You will be shopping online a lot. And you will find a tailor to slim down your stuff. (I'm 6'6, 185)
AntiGravityBacon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/tallfashionadvice
Norgenigga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try a large slim fit.
tinkerbunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You can buy Tall Medium online, or buy shirts in the store that fit your arm length and have them altered (tailored) to fit your torso. Not as expensive as it sounds, and you're going to love having clothes that fit you properly!
Find a seamstress or tailor.
R_Bex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never underestimate the value of tailoring
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a good tailor. Yesterday.
indirect_storyteller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either get something larger and get them tailored, or go thrift some shitty looking shirts to practice on and a sewing machine. Otherwise, talls would be your best off-the-rack option.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lift weights pleb
ThePetPsychic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're pricey, but the best fitting shirt I own is a "Marge" size from Marine Layer.
maxwellmaxen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have them tailored.
SirAwesomee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bulk and hit the gym.
frostfromfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of places sell tall online now. J. Crew & Banana Republic immediately come to mind.
lomahongva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude Proper Cloth!! Custom shirts for good prices!
Togonnagetsomerando ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
add a few pounds on muscle.
PRNmeds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shop online, medium tall.
NumberOneWithFries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tailor
awkwardelefant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Enough people have thrown out good ideas on where to get pre-made tall guy clothes, but for good shirts you already have, get them tailored. Tailoring makes all the difference in clothes looking good on people
SiON42X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at large slim/tailored fits or find tall shirts. Uniqlo has some good ones at times.
Neon_Orange_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Old Navy online dude! Tall and slim options for most tops and check out American Eagle and Hollister for pants
c010rb1indusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Untuckit.com
Their shirts are designed to worn untucked, so maybe a large shirt won't balloon around your waste as much like a normal buttondown does. I'm the same way btw but between small and medium. My shoulders are very broad but my waste is a small, so most I hope to find medium shirts that are tight around the middle or small shirts that are loose in the shoulders. It's infuriating.
ragingcluepromotions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's button down in black on sale at Jcrew.com right now. Slim large is the only size left. Ends up being $15 with the extra 40% off. There's a good amount of tall tshirts/polos and slim fit button-downs on sale right now if you don't mind ordering stuff online.
https://www.jcrew.com/AST/Navigation/Sale/AllProducts/PRDOVR~22139/99103190504/ENE~1+2+3+22+4294967294+20+225~~~21+16+4294967293~15~~~~~~~/22139.jsp?isSaleItem=true&isFromSale=true
teamdragonunicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
slim fit - ALWAYS buy slim fit
Caleb_Krawdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Banana republic tailored slim fit
TheStork74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 6'7". RVCA has some nice casual button downs that run nice and long. They can be kind of pricey but Polo and J Crew have great tall sizes
C3flyhigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it will cost a little extra, but you can take them to a tailor and they'll adjust them to fit you perfect. I recently did this with a jacket that was too big for me and people actually took notice.
ANAL_GLAUCOMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a good seamsteess
Vladdypoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most places I've been have "tall" options like "medium tall" "large tall", etc. just ask.
1ClassyMotherfucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of items on clearance right now. For talls, try:
J Crew
Land's End
Eddie Bauer
Banana Republic
Old Navy
LL Bean
Duluth Trading Company (for work wear)
Source: am tall, have tall family
JeanLouise_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My tall, skinny boyfriend likes to get his dress shirts at Express. A little pricey normally, but you can catch good sales. I'm sure there are plenty of other places too, you just have to shop around a bit to find the right fit for your body type.
Blackfather623 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy your dress shirts at Ross, marshals, Burlington or any other outlet. Take them to a tailor, get shirts/slacks altered. They'll fit perfect. $20 for shirt prob $10 to get tailored.less if you get a few done.
TheRare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look into Express for button ups and pants. Large or medium but their "fitted" or "extra slim" cuts tend to fit really well for tall skinny guys.
rdmusic16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For any sort of button up shirts, plenty of places sell slim fits - it might not be the intended slim/tight fit on you, but it won't look baggy. Also, look online if there isn't any type of specialized store for tall guys around you, because they definitely exist.
Get shirts tailored. Taking in the sides of these shirts is super simple and cheap if you find the right place - especially if you have a few at once.
Get a sowing machine. Making small clothing modifications is super easy. Maybe practice on a cheap shirt first, but it's really not all that difficult.
AS_A_VEGAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, there's a million stores on the internet. Find one that sells relatively cheap shirts in different lengths. Charles Tyrwhitt for instance. Try a few different ones and when you find a fit/size/length you like, buy a bunch of shirts and you're set for ages.
SecretFootToucher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a similar problem. Some brands have medium-tall sizes, which fit me perfectly. One brand off the top of my head is J. Crew.
Clank_clank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
J.Crew factory outlet website. They have tshirts that fit and feel amazing and they come in tall sizing. Highly recommend it because they are like $11 each and they offer free shipping pretty often.
darthstrayder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look for slim fit. I'm the same way and even if you have to pay a little more for brands that offer it, it's life changing. I had people complimenting me on my weight loss for months. All I did was buy the right shirts.
be_bo_i_am_robot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy a cheap sewing machine at Target, and then Google "how to easily tailor a dress shirt." It's not that hard, and it'll make a huge difference!
Or you can pay a tailor $20 per shirt to do it for you.
mike-kt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buying online is the way to go.
Frank and Oak has nice stuff with tall sizes https://ca.frankandoak.com/tallshop
sevilyra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy large, get them properly fitted at a tailor.
severus66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 6'0 and medium is just fine most places. You must at least be 6'2 or just have really bad anxiety of possible showing your belt buckle when reaching your arms over your head.
stealingyourpotatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
6'3", So I'm just beyond the precipice.
Guavaberry27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's plenty of stores that have tall sizes. Sadly. Many of them are just online, but they exist. Please don't go through life with I'll fitting shirts.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
test out smalls and mediums. I'm all torso so sometimes mediums are long enough but end up being too baggy.
stuffguy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
internet sells stuff
aYounggod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you tuck in your shirt, try to tuck and fold the side seam of your shirt over the back panels. It'll pull the loose fabric tighter and keep it there as your waist/belt holds it in place. Makes my shirts all look tailored as fuck.
gildoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a tailor like every well dressed man you've ever seen has already done.
MoneybagsMalone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American Eagle also has M-Tall shirts that fit perfectly as a 6'3 slim-man. I bought one of them online and immediately got compliments on how well it fit.
The-GentIeman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
J Crew Factory, Gap and Banana Republic do tall sizes. JCrew also does slim which is awesome for the more athletic builds. Great V drop!
SlowFive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a tailor. Usually you can find a hole in the wall place to do I for $10.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon! I'm 6'6" and pretty damn thin. I get the XLT's and they fit perfectly.
There are other places that people have recommended but you can literally find anything on Amazon. I found jeans that fit me perfectly that I can't find in the stores.
Hannarrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy your clothes online or bulk up.
TheVentiLebowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Custom made dress shirts.
Double-Portion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H&M also has longer shirts for thinner people.
TheRollingBones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
J crew man. Their slim fit tall medium shirts fit me great @ 6'4
PM_ME_UR_SIDEBOOOB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know that Ralph Lauren has a "big and tall" line, but you could also get large clothing tailored. It usually isn't that expensive and will make your clothing fit so much better
hybridthm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stop buying large or medium, get a shirt with measurements. Oh and many places do slim fits now, that would help.
T-shirts, different places have different shapes, shop around a little before buying, and try wearing hoops over stripes.
exoduas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy slim fit clothes, not normal cut.
baileyxelizabeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Old Navy has nice casual button up shirts and you can buy them in the tall section online. My boyfriend is 6'5" and wears LT (large/tall) and they fit him perfectly. Also they always have 30/40% off! :)
IAmAWizard_AMA ยท 288 points ยท Posted at 17:37:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Isn't there some sub for this? /r/malefashionadvice (hey, I guessed the name correctly)
Edit: as many people have pointed out, /r/streetwear is pretty good, as well as /r/malefashion and /r/bigmenfashionadvice
Also, since some of those subreddits show outfits that cost over $1,000, /r/frugalmalefashion is a nice alternative for people who don't want to go broke
Edit 2: OK, so apparently all those subreddits suck 24/7, and they also only suck most of the time, and also some of them don't suck. I don't know...
[deleted] ยท 354 points ยท Posted at 18:01:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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srpokemon ยท 736 points ยท Posted at 18:10:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
talk shit post fit fam
doplebanger ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:58:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ay4 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:59:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
T A L K S H I T P O S T F I T
bendy3d ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:26:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He said mfa not streetwear
big_shmegma ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:33:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
omg exactly this. I asked a dude if he was wearing something ironically and got so many downvotes with this replying to me
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:06:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah because they probably thought you were trying being a dick about it.
SexualPie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:38:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i feel like that comment almost makes sense. but i cant decipher it.
SpiritHeartilly ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 20:11:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Post your own dressing style before you talk shit
SexualPie ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 20:33:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
um..... wat?
ragamufin ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:45:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a fit is an outfit. A post is... an image posted on a forum. Fam is family but used for friends.
'Talk shit post fit fam' is an abbreviated way of saying "if you are going to critique other peoples clothes friend, post an example of what you wear or people won't take your critique seriously".
FWIW I've literally never said this before.
JV19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:43 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little ad hominem, no?
ragamufin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:23 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I do think it is but it's just an echo of a pervasive theme in human group dynamics and society at large:
"If you want to tell us if something is bad, prove to us you know what you are talking about."
Lots of ways to say it, most of them more eloquent and less abrasive, but it serves a real purpose.
It just seems less legitimate in a space like fashion where there at least appears (to me and most other laypeople) to be a lot of ambiguity about what is right or correct and so hard to tell who is knowledgeable.
SexualPie ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 21:09:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i mean, i hear you, but thats an awful saying. its like "your post is invalid unless you're sexier than the poster."
doesnt really make sense.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:37:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SexualPie ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eh, thats still unfair tho. I can know an outfit doesnt look good without being super fashion conscientious. like, if somebody wears a suit made out of tacos i ican tell them its shit.
ragamufin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:27:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea man I feel you but thats just not the way fashion conscious people think, or really the way anyone who has put significant time into understanding a market or trend thinks.
Fashion people (again, not me) think of it like any other hobby, snowboarding, arduino robots, stock trading, video games, whatever.
If you didnt play many video games would you walk up to a gamer and tell him the game hes thinking about buying is shit and not expect him to check whether you actually play video games before taking your advice?
If your friend gets a new snowboard and you say its not that good of a snowboard, hes probably going to ask if you have ever ridden a snowboard.
If you look at someones arduino code for their robot and say its poorly optimized, hes probably going to prod your coding skills to see if you know what you are talking about.
Its hard in fashion to prove you know what you are talking about, but a really easy way to check is to look at what someone is wearing. People who care about that stuff can tell immediately from a photo if you are also someone who cares, and consequently someone who has spent a lot of time examining fashion.
SexualPie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well it all comes down to opinion sure, but it still a little different. i think EVERYBODY has a least a tiny bit of fashion sense. sure, they might not be competent, but they can tell you whats shit.
Kingmudsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised, actually. For really basic stuff this is true, but you might not know what to look for in well-fitting clothes if you don't own any yourself, just to give an example.
It's like yeah, I can tell you that your piece of art is shit, but if I'm not an artist then my critiques aren't going to be phrased in a way that is constructive to the subject.
P9P9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what brand the suit is. If its a real supreme taco suit /r/streetwear will love it
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:36:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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SexualPie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that was a analogy. thanks tho.
gyakusou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my b
booyah719 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:36:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes total sense. You get advice from someone who is qualified to give it.
Example: I'm not gonna ask Martha Stewart for an explanation of quantum mechanics. I'm gonna ask her about insider trading.
isrly_eder ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 21:14:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is almost painfully stupid. Avoiding that sub eternally
ya_mashinu_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:54:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean the idea is that giving critical feedback that is contrary to general opinion without evidence of your own knowledge of style isnt helpful. it's a shitty way to say something that is pretty reasonable, given the purpose of the forum you're posting in.
NonnagLava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what it means.
Pxzzled ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahahhahahh
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 19:03:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Sneet1 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:34:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
post fit fam, do you even know who tricky rick is?
klethra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:57:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dick Ovens? My muse tbh. Phuccbois hating my full Rick fits, but they aren't even effay smdh...
Sneet1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
phuKKOtokonokoZ can't even Torikkฤซrikkฤซ
Hashisme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rick Danger
SexualPie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:39:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no in fact, i dont.
Caleb_Krawdad ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:49:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're like all of Reddit in that they have a hive mind of what they like. But they're awesome for helping with specific styles if you look a bit deeper and ask
Crashlight ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:23:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you say that?
enyoron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're alright on generic advice (ie what types of fits suit a body type, what colors match the season), but they're incredibly elitist when it comes to specific brands and the cost of clothing. If you post an outfit with top labels that costs $700+ then you'll be considered a fashionista (regardless of how good or bad you actually look). If you post an outfit that fits well, has balanced colors but uses cheap brands you'll have people telling you how you need to upgrade to some brand that costs 5x as much (they give this advice even if they think you look good). Though occasionally they'll have budget threads which aren't too bad.
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enyoron ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:17:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The subreddit culture may be different now, but it was what drove me away from that sub around ~2012.
spraj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you find a single example of this happening?
mrpeppr1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have never seen anyone recommend a more expensive for the sake of it being expensive. It's very rare actually to name a specific brand when recommending something.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:37:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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enyoron ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:12:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The basic advice is very good but it has the 'high fashion' problem of valuing brand names and 'trendy' (re: expensive) clothing regardless of how good it actually looks.
DentistySch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh.... no it doesn't. The whole sub-reddit is against brand names.
mrpeppr1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong sub. The closest to that is a consideration in /r/streetwear is the designer and that doesn't define the genre in the slightest.
indirect_storyteller ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:21:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think so, their sidebar has tons of useful advice. Of course it helps a ton to have some fashion forward friends to bring along to see if the stuff you're considering buying is actually worth buying. This is how I ended up buying a neat $50 button up in what I assumed to be my size that I never wear anymore.
borutgers ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:58:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its for beginners into fashion and it would be a really big improvement for some people!
farfle10 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:25:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If dressing in the confines of MFA is like a 5/10, and 90% of guys in America (assumed) are like a 1/10, then you're still going to be looking 4 points better than 90% of the guys out there. Some quality boots, slim jeans, and well-fitting button up is basically a meme at this point for MFA, but in reality you'd be looking better than the vast majority of people you see in person. People that post on MFA and MF are trying to impress each other, not necessarily the average person, which is why if you spend too much time on those subs, you start to get a warped sense of what actually looks good. If you're draped in Rick Owens and you're going to some college in California, then you probably look like shit to everyone else. It's all about perspective and knowing your circles.
IAmAWizard_AMA ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:14:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a good alternative?
thtgyovrthr ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:01:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's not a shithole. it has great tips for starting off. in fact, anyone's judgement looking at the suggestions there can tell them if a post is more akin to a wacky inspiration concept or a plausible outfit with practical tips on how to execute it.
also relevant: /r/frugalmalefashion.
source: years and years in retail and the occasional unexpected compliment.
Shrinky-Dinks ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 18:23:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I think the core issue is that you're getting fashion advice from people who frequent reddit.
SexualPie ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:39:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i get your joke, but a subreddit designed for fashion, i would imagine has atleast some competence.
Shrinky-Dinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I just went to check it out. It could have changed or I may have confused it with a sub about hairstyles because I was remembering a sub where in every comment section people were encouraging the OP to ditch their current style and go for something like this.
Edit: The link was crap because I'm on mobile but basically shoulder length hair styled to look like an aname character and equally cringe worthy clothing.
soretits ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 20:20:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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usremane ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:00:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Nice memes, but it isn't hipster to care about fashion or how you dress. To many its about improving self confidence or self image and to some it becomes a hobby. Blowing it off as hipster shit is really just ignorant.
soretits ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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___cantsee___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're seriously so ignorant its embarrassing
usremane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm sorry but I went on and checked top of all time and didn't see this post you're quoting at all even remotely close to the top and I went pretty far down. I'm not gonna take your word on what are elf boots or an ugly t shirt because honestly I don't trust it. Some people have the money to spend extra on fashion and if that's what they wanna spend it on so be it, that doesn't make them hipster? Is it wrong to admire someone's expensive high quality items when they can afford it? You make it sound like if you go on MFA and ask for a recommended white tee theyll recommend some $200 rick Owens plain tee but in fact they are humans who can be aware of people not wanting to spend absurd amount on a t shirt and would more likely offer a $15 uniqlo t shirt.
klethra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm looking in my crystal ball and seeing chelsea boots and everything else SLP.
soretits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Shrinky-Dinks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the link boots, look good on women. Look really weird on men.
soretits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Konekotoujou ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The subreddit designed for science doesn't.
SexualPie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/askscience ?
that subreddit is awesome.
IAmAWizard_AMA ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a very good point
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:13:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the advice is good if it isn't from people who never really visit there, like you two
Hatewrecked ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/malefashion
also as always /r/streetwear is outchea fam but that's not for everyone.
A_snailor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The few, the proud.
SpicyPanties ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/streetwear
Acrio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/malefashion
ItsSpicyCurry ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:54:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not for people who just want to look good and don't know how, it's more for further discussion on the more artistic side of fashion
Acrio ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:59:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, but there's still things to learn on malefashion if you want to avoid MFA.
BuntRuntCunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up a copy of GQ
Moozilbee ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:24:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
Nudl4k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have a lot of useful advice, but only if you like one of the few styles they promote.
PrecisePrecision ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:10:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna back that up with anything or?
gumbo_chops ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:05:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has become less about giving tailored advice specific to the individual and functions more as an echo chamber where everyone just prescribes current trends male fashion and down-votes anything that the MFA hive mind doesn't agree with.
orangefly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:36:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much any advice sub with more than 10,000 subscribers. Try going to a fantasy sports sub. They're pretty much all useless.
big_deal ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:06:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure...here you go: /r/malefashionadvice
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:02:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
MF has gone to shit too honestly
SG_Dave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where the answer to everything is "browns, blacks and fuck my shit up fam"
Also rules 1 and 2.
rezilient ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why
Indoorsman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can learn a lot of things from it. But if you are super impressionable and believe anything you see style wise, (which is a lot of people,) you're going to come out the other end looking like a fucking all black ninja turtle.
It's a good place to see ideas, different types of clothes and how they fit on others that maybe you never considered or never like because you saw someone else wear it horribly wrong.
A fair amount of the posters in there are a bit over the top or avant grade in the way they dress. But you can still take a look and find what you don't like about those clothes and what doesn't work together for you personally, and can avoid those snafus in the future. Also some people have no concept of affordable and don't realize the rest of us aren't trust fund babies or living with mom and dad and can't afford a $800 jacket, or $300 sneakers that look slightly better than $50 sneakers.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:13:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you obviously have not been there much
barristonsmellme ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:38:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped going because it was mainly American shops/sites/sizes (to be expected.), everyone seems to assume everything needs to cost $200, and it seems to be a lot of people just guessing.
Plus when I used to frequent it, every reply was pretty much shirt, cardigan, chinos.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None of what you said is true to how it is
barristonsmellme ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:04:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well maybe not now, but it was, it's why I left. I found it completely unhelpful unless you're a 30 year old relatively well off american.
Mildly-Offensive ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:29:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Should I wear rolled up jeans and Iron Rangers, or rolled up jeans and Iron Rangers?"
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 20:48:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, you haven't been there
Mildly-Offensive ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:52:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had enough rolled up jeans and Iron Rangers.
john_ft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
why?
heterosapian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sidebar suggestions are good for people who don't know how to dress properly. The fits have a lot of people who spend a lot of money on looks that are trendy/artsy which to me look pretty stupid in public but to each their own.
bobsp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Streetwear is a shithole.
I_Photoshop_Movies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Helped me a couple years back. Dress a lot better these days. Don't listen to this guy, give it a chance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/mfacirclejerk is superior
DarthAngry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What haircut should I get? Posts four different macklemore haircuts
Karilusarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hawe subbed twice and unsubbed twice. Confirmed shit sub.
easymak1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much just a circle jerk
DannyJLloyd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:54:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is it gives advice for beginners who want to move out of the teen fashion phase. And their usual advice of an OCDB, CDB, and chinos are good and smart options, despite it transforming into a circle jerk. It's not an overly fashion forward subreddit because that's not the purpose, though it does house a fair amount of openness to such things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It seems great if you are into the young professional with varying degrees of but not full on hipster looks, and for many people that will be great, but for many others it's kind of useless.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:16:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a stepping stone, that's why it's called malefashionadvice
deelar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to /r/malefashionadvice if you want to look like a 45 year old boat owner.
That was my experience a while back. Maybe its changed, but at that point it was pretty much like a group of alcoholics trying to run a rehab program.
farfle10 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:26:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol why because you spent some time there and got used to the 'beginner' look that MFA offers? If dressing in the confines of MFA is like a 5/10, and 90% of guys in America (assumed) are like a 1/10, then you're still going to be looking 4 points better than 90% of the guys out there. Some quality boots, slim jeans, and well-fitting button up is basically a meme at this point for MFA, but in reality you'd be looking better than the vast majority of people you see in person. People that post on MFA and MF are trying to impress each other, not necessarily the average person, which is why if you spend too much time on those subs, you start to get a warped sense of what actually looks good in everyday life. If you go to school at some college in southern California and you're draped in Rick Owens, then you probably look like shit to everyone else. It's all about perspective and knowing your circles.
thirdegree ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's basically /r/RichHipsterFashionAdvice.
alphawolf29 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh you can't afford this $800 jacket? You must look like shit"
jmattingley23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to /r/frugalmalefashion then
alphawolf29 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Frugal fashion advice goes from 800-1,000 dollar jackets to 400-600 dollar jackets. It's male fashion advices deals sub, it's not about frugal fashion. On the front page is a "deal" for only 70 euro scarves.
jmattingley23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you even go to the sub? Right now the front page has hats for $15, flannels for $16, pants for $15, shoes for $20, etc.
www.uniqlo.com is also a good brand to check if you want inexpensive nice looking clothing.
CeiIingCat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:41:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a shithole, there's gotta be a non shithole alternative right?
UnPolloAzul ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:03:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pleb
cone_eater ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:35:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've found that sub to be fantastic. No idea what you're taking about.
bobbertmiller ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:01:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"How to look like a goddamn hipster that has never grown any muscles in his life"
Those pants they advertise there would never fit on me. Neither would the tiny armed shirts -_-
BanHammerStan ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 19:26:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It should be called /r/howtodresslikeagayerskinnierabercrombiemodel
No matter what your body type: "Skinny jeans and fashion boots. And don't forget the cardigan and/or overpriced varsity jacket to finish off that 'I learned to dress by watching Glee' look."
Sneet1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:35:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like you dress like shit fam, is that a hint of fragile masculinity I'm sniffing out there?
bfhurricane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Malefashionadvice isn't a bad sub if you're just looking for new outfit ideas.
Mentalpatient87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd dig in to that, but I'm afraid that, like most self improvement stuff, the first step is going to be "spend a lot of money that you don't have."
klethra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you really want to get into it for cheap, look at their stuff on sizing and how clothes should fit. From there, evaluate your wardrobe and pick up whatever you need from a thrift shop.
OffspringOfTheMaize ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I get half of my shit thrifted. The whole "i cant look good bc i cant spend money a lot of money" is a cop out.
FinancialThrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dappered.com is great for budget minded fashion too
FionnFearghas ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:09:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to look like a carbon copy clone of the hive mind outfit of the month, then that's the place to go. It's a decent enough place for kids moving out for the first time or Uber slobs, but it ends there.
Biyori ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:22:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You say that, but is there a better alternative for people just starting with fashion?
informareWORK ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:45:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a good starting point, if only just to be exposed to things. Other good reddit options are to go to subs devoted to specific clothing items like jackets, jeans, watches, suits, shoes (shout-out to /r/goodyearwelt ), etc.
Sir_Tibbles ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:11:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/malefashionadvice is a fine place for someone just starting out. It covers the basics very well and then from there it's just a matter of figuring out what you like. I personally don't like a lot of the styles posted there, but it's still a good resources.
BanHammerStan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between looking good and looking fashionable, and without taking the person's overall look into consideration, it's impossible to assess what someone needs.
If you're an average-looking person between 15 and 22, who has no muscle and is of average height, /r/malefashionadvice is probably a decent starting point. But if there is anything at all unique about you, start elsewhere.
ZuXzu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:08:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/streetwear
FionnFearghas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to a reputable clothes store and ask. And by reputable I don't mean a store that predominantly sells stuff with huge logos on it.
Biyori ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:36:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By doing that you will get varied answers depending on who you speak to and which store you enter. Also going by your advice, people will most likely enter a store and ask "how do i dress well?", and the store clerk probably just find him/her clothing and be done with it. /r/mfa has a great sidebar. I'd rather read the book first before asking the teacher questions about the things I don't know, if you catch my drift.
BanHammerStan ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 19:29:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Meet a girl. Go shopping with her AND HER SISTER, FRIEND, AND/OR MOTHER.
Never go shopping with just one girl -- she'll either turn you into the last guy she was fucking, or she'll like everything no matter how bad it looks on you.
klethra ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:31:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely not. If you want to dress well, ask a fashionable guy to go with you. Girls know male fashion about as well as guys know female fashion.
Acrio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:06:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why should a girl know more than you about male fashion? Fashion isn't some alien language only taught to females, you can be interested and develop your own style as well. Some of the most god-awful fits I've ever seen on guys were crafted by their girlfriends.
My advice, if you're genuinely interested in being fashionable, is just to put a minimum amount of effort into reading, researching, and observing. From there you can start developing your wardrobe.
Biyori ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:43:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that a friend circle tend to have similar taste in clothing. Lets say you go out with this emo or anime girl you just met, and there's a chance they're going to recommend you emo clothing or my little pony t-shirts. And just because they're girls doesn't mean they're knowledgeable in fashion.
geoman2k ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:07:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really silly characterization. Look at it like learning to be an artist - most people don't go straight from picking up a pencil to becoming Picasso. They start by learning the fundamentals, the simple basic rules. Then when they're comfortable with the rules, they are able to branch out and find their own style. Picasso was doing realism paintings long before he ever dabbled in cubism.
The community at MFA is all about that. If you look at any of their guides, they are all about teaching the fundamentals first and foremost - how clothes should fit, what are modern wardrobe basics, what clothes to wear on what occasions, how to match colors/textures/fabrics... This is simple stuff that everyone should know, no matter how they want to dress. They are rules that apply weather you want to wear the basic MFA "uniform" or if you want to go for a more stylistic approach like streetwear, techwear, etc.
I really don't understand the idea that there's something wrong with following popular styles when you dress yourself. A lot of people aren't trying to make some grand artistic statement with their clothing. They're just trying to look good and well put together. If you walk into a room wearing a well fitted OCBD, some nice chinos and wingtips, chances are 9/10 people are going to think you look great. The 1/10 people who might take exception with that style probably have a very specific style in mind which they are looking for, anyways.
longboardshayde ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:25:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you use it a way to see different styles and then create your own, it's useful, but definitely don't try to mirror everything in there
beyeukr2004 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:29:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MFA is a place for absolute beginner who wants to dress better and have no idea how. I'd rather wear the MFA uniform (OCBD shirts, chinos, desert boots) than dressing like shit. Go to the sidebar, ask a question, you will get the gist of how dressing well works because the people are generally pretty helpful there.
BevansDesign ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knowing how to dress properly is just the first step. You can't play chess unless you know how to set up the board.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're looking for advice, that's probably a good thing. You're not going to go from slob to trendsetter in a day no matter how many posts you read. Being a duplicate of everyone else is fine. That's a huge step up from being dressed worse than everyone else.
JTToadOfToadHall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really use the sub, but given he mentioned khakis and a button-down as a noticeable improvement, I think MFA would be a step up for him - as it likely would be for most people on Reddit. Norse Projects, Uniqlo, a tailored suit, Goodyear welt boots, etc probably aren't going to hurt many people's dating game.
lockman21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I'm just old, but what the hell is an Uber slob?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well MFA is more based on menswear, not everyone is into streetwear.
FionnFearghas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are mistaking men's wear with late teens and mid 20s wear.
CaptainMillennium ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:00:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I personally use /r/streetwear
fivebees ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:57:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was a circlejerk sub
Either way, I feel too old to be dressing like that
I_Photoshop_Movies ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:08:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are guys in their 30's pulling off great streetwear. Streetwear these days isn't all about snapbacks and colorful sneakers.
scare_crowe94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best place
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mfa can be a real hugbox though
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/bigmenfashionadvice is a much better sub.
lets-start-a-riot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/streetwear or how to pay $300 for a white hoodie with a red logo.
bannana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugalmalefashion
IAmAWizard_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are way too many subreddits for male fashion...
Theniallmc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
its basically 24/7 "fam kanye on fleek"
Bluffz2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like /r/malefashionadvice.
IAmAWizard_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't say that, reddit will burn you at the stake! Apparently that's a horrible subreddit
mfball ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even just a slimmer fit t-shirt and a nicer pair of jeans does wonders since most guys wear stuff that's ratty and three sizes too big.
altcastle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:44:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're like me for much of my 20s, "dress nicely" and "have clothes fit" didn't make sense to me. I mean I understood the concept, but no one taught me. So guys, here's a few primers.
Your clothes are about creating lines and a silhouette. Simple fit tips:
Your pants shouldn't bunch up more than once if they do at all. If they do, they're too long. You can show your socks when you are sitting and cross your legs. If you see your actual leg, they're too short.
Your shirts should have the shoulder seam where your shoulder ends. Not before or down on your arm.
Black doesn't go with nearly as many things as brown. Have some nice brown shoes.
Similarly, wear navy, it goes with most stuff. A classic look is navy pants and a white dress shirt. You will look good, I promise.
Hygiene habits that take 2 minutes per day and make you look so much better:
Shave your neck if you have facial hair/stubble. Create the correct line by drawing down from your earlobes then across your neck making a line about a finger width above your adams apple. Shave below that. Do not shave super high so that the facial hair starts right where your chin is.
Pick a hairstyle that is clean and simple. Take the time to do it every day. Don't know what to get or how to style it? Go to a nice barber one time and get their opinion and let them go crazy. Bonus: a nice haircut is a supreme confidence boost.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A year ago I bought a pair of RM Williams chestnut brown Chelsea boots. Work casually and can get away with them in a suit. Brown is good gents, just make sure your belt matches.
I've yet to see a navy suit look bad, unless horrendously fitted, but light greys and even blacks? Not so easy. Blue suits work for just about any occasion.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
>Dressing a little nicer
>khakis
Oh Americans...
evolutionape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've recently adopted the power of the navy sportcoat. Instantly takes you up a notch in style. Works with pretty much anything.
cqm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a personal designer.
When the opposite sex dresses you, they unintentionally dress you in ways that more of the opposite sex also likes. Yes, your clothes might be tighter than you thought, yes more of the same sex will also hit on you. These are just additional forms of validation.
Also why married men have ironed but bland clothes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. It's insane how people react to you when you try to wear something different than a tee and jeans.
VanessaSoIll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend is a mechanic. I normally see him in jeans and a greasy T.
When he throws on his khakis and a nice button up, it's instantly just the sexiest thing ever.
spoonerhouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even changing to a v-neck shirt and nice denim makes a huge difference if you still wanna be a jeans and t-shirt guy.
vagina_fang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What year is it?
meat_sack12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, you don't even have to change both. You put an ironed white button-down with jeans and a sweater? You'll look instantly nicer.
indiscriminateQuotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"effect"
Ryanbomb1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To back this up, wear clothes that fit better. Instead of buying relaxed fit jeans from wal- mart, consider buying some slightly more slims jeans. They don't even have to be fancy, they could be from H&M. Obviously this goes both ways, if you are a bigger person, make sure you wear clothes that fit, like flowier shirts and nothing that is overly tight. Also make sure your shoes are clean and shampoo your fucking hair! Or wear a nice hat or something, greasy hair has to be the worst.
honeyandvinegar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girl here. There's a huge jump from T-shirts and hoodies to button-downs and sweaters. Easiest change and your boss/instructors will notice.
Orsenis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends. If you figure out a fancy style over the years, you can dess up like that.
meinthebox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can look good in jeans. I have a few pairs of dark color jeans that I keep just for looking decent. Maje sure they are not baggy. Levi's 514 are my favorite. Only wash your nice jeans when they smell or are visibility dirty.
Once the color begins to change they became my regular jeans until they rip.
Then they become jorts.
soulcaptain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Americans (and I am one as well, so shut up), wear something that fits, goddammit. Enough with the baggy clothes two sizes too large; wear something form fitting to your body.
vanessow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wish I could properly explain how hot I find my boyfriend in adult clothes. He likes to wear sweatpants and shorts all the time. If he wore a non-T-shirt and even dark jeans. . Sploosh.
ivydesert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Along this vein, if your nice clothes don't fit, get them tailored. It's not very expensive, and it makes you look a hundred times better.
brygphilomena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The way I see it, is have a style. Whether that is black t-shirt and jeans. Button up and khakis. Boat shoes and chinos. Whatever it is. Own it, look the best you can in it. Make it seem like you actually put some distinction into what you are wearing, not just the first thing thing off the hanger or in the drawer.
Same goes for shopping for clothes. Yea sure, the clothes at the gap or walmart technically cover you just like all the other clothes from nicer brands, but you can tell. You don't need to be wearing name brand labels, but you want to be wearing quality clothes.
DWillows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, on one hand fancier does help, but on the other, my silk pj's are pretty damn amazing.
SidelineScoundrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A decent rule that I like is to always dress just a step better than the norm of the men I work with. If most men at my workplace wear khakis and a polo, I wear sport or dress shirt. They wear dress shirt? Add a tie. Have that be YOUR norm. Don't try to show people up or dress o the nines all the time; you may be look over dressed or come off as pretentious. Don't be the guy in a suit if accepted code is a polo shirt. Just bump it up a notch and it looks like you put in solid effort to look good, and people notice.
Assdolf_Shitler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about this? Classy yet practical, right?
RoleModelFailure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't even need to dress up. Just a well fitting, clean shirt and proper fitting jeans. I wear a lot of nautica shirts (cheap and comfy) and jeans and it's just a clean, simple look. But if one of the shirts is wrinkly or the jeans too baggy it looks way off and I look like a 19 year old college bro again.
jzerocoolj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tucked in my shirt today and I've gotten several remarks at the office. ugh.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
T-shirt and jeans can work, but...
Go to a nice store (I know it's a chain, but Nordstroms is good about this) and get someone to properly fit you. Learn about inseams and waist lines and learn how to wear your damn clothes.
Yes, at a nice store, they will tailor most clothing to fit (especially jeans). This is important, even if you don't buy the ridiculously overpriced jeans there (seriously; they're bad). But once you have your appropriate measurements, you can usually find factory-direct prices online and just order what you need. A nice t-shirt that fits and a well-made pair of jeans that fit, paired with a good pair of shoes (id est, not your fucking tennis shoes or trainers) is a perfectly decent set of going-out clothes. For a bit of fun, try throwing a casual jacket or blazer over the outfit and BAM! Now you have a look that is effortless, cost-effective, and wouldn't get you thrown out of most nice restaurants.
wokeupabug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, they just need to be paired with tallness, thinness, and broad shoulders. I don't understand why 2/3rds of the men in the world don't get how easy it is!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing some time on the rack can't cure.
wokeupabug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But who needs tees when there are lightweight thermals whose sleeves you can push up?
And so flexible! Want a nap? Already in pajamas! Care for a ski? Guess who's already wearing long underwear, you clever fellow! Get covered in burrs? Exude the charm of the outdoors!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Canadian, some of us don't live in Narnia where that is practical wear.
For instance, it was a balmy 50 degrees here today. How's that for January.
wokeupabug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good lord, do you have special gutters to catch all the melting aluminum!? Wait a second... you're participating in some kind of American cointelpro where a bizarre counting scheme makes your temperatures look much hotter than they actually are, aren't you?
50s are a great temperature though, I would be happy with constant 50s. You fuckers are probably wearing longcoats and toques when it's 50, shivering in horror at how any person could survive such conditions. At least that's the impression I have about southerners based on Floridians, but I'm told that's a comparison that gets people killed in some places.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Flurrida isn't really the same thing as Texas.
That said, no, 50 is not long coat weather. 30 is.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:54 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We need to talk about the Shannara Chronicles.
I know your love of bad sf TV precedes you, and my snobbish elitism marks me not as a man of class and distinction but as a curmudgeonly old, but so help me I cannot stop watching this pap. It's so offensively awful that it's come around full circle to good. What is wrong with me?
wokeupabug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:37 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just starting episode one now.
My reaction to the announcement:
Sweet, I remember Terry Brooks! Read all that shit along with the David Eddington stuff--good times.
Right on.
Oh fuck off you bunch of wankers.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:17 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch it and come talk to me.
wokeupabug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:28 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MRW:
Oh this girl is cute.
Ooo, elves!
Oh ffs, every elf looks like they stuck funny ears on the cast of some teen drama.
I don't care enough about any of these characters to be invested in this stupid race. "May the best elf win"? Oh fuck off.
... they're literally at a party talking about who they want to ask out to prom, while Imagine Dragons plays in the background. I have not drank enough for this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:40 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep going! Keep going! Eventually the pain fades and you experience bad genre tv nirvana.
wokeupabug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:29 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I... think I'm going to watch this religiously. :(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:57 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of us! One of us! Gooble gobble gooble gobble!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find when I dress like that I attract girls I don't get along well with. Maybe I have bad luck but I just dress like I normally do and I attract the girls like me
IW1911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly why I am a t-shirt, hoodie/flannel shirt, Jeans and Converse guy 90% of the time. I wear well fitting clothes, I'm just always laid back with my style. So when I do scrub up, it gets the nod of approval.
krankie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is honey mustard dressing okay?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the fedora.
johndeer89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got one:
If you don't care about clothing or don't know what you to wear, go to the store and buy what the mannequin is wearing as long as you don't hate it. This has scored me so many points and saves me from my usual wardrobe of jeans and a white T-shirt.
lawnpuppies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not only dressing nicer. Anyone can dress in nice clothes and still look less attractive than they could because they're missing personal style. Then there's be attractive to who for what reason. Pick a style that works with your style that appeals to the people you're interested in that shows your own personal creativity that expresses who you are.
Pistol_Pete_94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But then you'll start getting creepy guys and aliens calling you at 3 in the morning
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On this, iron it properly. Whether I'm wearing a formal dress shirt or a linen button up for casual stuff I always iron my shirt properly. Don't be the guy wearing a shirt that looks like you ironed it with a rock.
Grammor___Natsee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy a few button down shirts (think business-casual, not funeral) and wear those. Comfortable, and you look fly!
XStreamGamer247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is my go-to style on the reg, with a nice printed tee underneath. I don't have any really expensive clothes, so most of my khakis, tees, button ups or flannels are usually $10-20, tops, or maybe even $25 if it's payday from places like TJ Maxx, Marshalls, Ross, Old Navy etc. Really, my tees are probably the most expensive things I wear since I like to get them online from gaming sites. And remember, khakis don't have to be tan, get a nice grey pair and they can go with almost any top, and tend to make you seem like you have an idea what the word "style" means; really, any color but tan will make you look pretty stylish - at least, it does to me.
If you just buy one $15-20 item on each paycheck, after a few months you'll start to notice your own style changing up a bit and you'll subtly start defining it without effort. You don't need to do some 80's ass makeover shopping spree.
arclathe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't go anywhere without a cumberbund.
Chocolate_Milky_Way ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a fat guy, I find that, when I tuck my shirts in, I have my hands down my pants all day KEEPING it tucked. And that's not cute either.
Instead, I just take the time to find shirts that don't hang to the knees when they're untucked.
mobius_striping_inc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Khakis are not fancier than jeans unless your jeans are awful.
itaShadd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Easy to say, but for people like me with a negative amount of fashion sense it's like saying "in order to not be unattractive, be attractive!"
SargeMacLethal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dark grey weathered jeans have the same effect in my experience. It looks like "Hey I like wearing jeans, but I'm still going to go a little further to look good." Those combined with a brightly-colored and even semi-dressy shirt (casual polo/flannel/button-up) make for a pretty good result. It also helps to find unique-looking shirts and jackets. Something to stick out a bit without being too in-your-face. But again this is just from personal experience.
It all depends on your willingness to look like a shiny little hipster.
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Graphic T's just don't look good on any guy past the age of like 23.
Buy some shirts with buttons. Maybe a name brand or two, you don't need to stock your whole closet with Gucci, but a nice pull-over / couple nice dress shirts / and a sport coat can make the world of difference when you want to make an impression.
Also, guys under 30, seriously learn how to wear & tie a tie.
AdamGeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People typically request that I dress like a savage, because khakis and a button-up are too uptight, apparently
xXminilex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/malefashionadvice
dustmouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are you wearing "Jake from state farm"? Uhh... Khakis.
skemmis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't take fashion advice from someone who wears khakis.
sexyselfpix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but dont be too cheap. If you're a man you need have a nice shoes, belt and maybe a watch. Nice shoes makes a huge difference.
RancidLemons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, Jake from State Farm
boaza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People take notice when I wear a T-shirt and jeans, because normally I'm a sweatshirt and sweatpants kinda guy
thegodguthix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My first name is Jake this would do more harm than good.
stanleyfarnsworth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoes are key. And fit.
Jeans that fit and a white t-shirt seems lazy but if you're wearing a dope pair of shoes you're way ahead of most guys.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once I was in a gentlemans club and got approached by a dancer. She asked if I wanted a dance and I said no thank you, I'm ok, I don't have the money. She said come on! Anyone dressed like you has their shit together. I was in a button up and khakis.
jmcdon00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My only piece of fashion advice is wear a dark top with a light bottom, or light bottom with a dark top.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I swear to fucking god putting on some nice clothing and getting a haircut at an actual barber (no, not fucking great clips), and you INSTANTLY go from a 5/10 to a 7 or 8. Seriously, it's that fucking easy. You can be a legitimately unattractive looking person genetically, but if you dress yourself nicely and have a cute personality, people will be into you. Just go buy some decent basics from H&M or Uniqlo and spend 25 dollars on a good haircut and you're like 50% of the way to being good looking.
The secrets to being an attractive man:
Dress nice. Buy like 2 pairs of jeans (don't get baggy shit, at least something slim-ish/fitted/whatever you want to call it. Don't drown in your clothing.), and some shirts. Go on ebay and buy a pair of white low-top sneakers. The first pair of decent shoes I bought were a pair of Stan Smiths for 8 fucking dollars, and I'm still wearing them as I type this. Stan Smiths are 10000% my recommended starter shoes because they're really comfortable, look nice, and also look good when they're beat the fuck up. Buy a decent coat if it's wintertime. After you've done this, just google "[your city] barber". It is very simple, and Google will nicely display a phone number for you to book your appointment.
Have a nice personality. Don't be a dick. It's simple. Be nice to people and at least feign interest in them. If you fake it, eventually it will probably become genuine.
maintain your fucking hygeine. If you show up to social events with dirt under your nasty long fingernails and you have yellow teeth, people will notice. When you begin the process of showing interest in other peoples' lives, they will be less inclined to respond twice if a wave of stench comes from your mouth.
Kinda ties in with #3, but just don't be fat. Seriously, lose the weight. If you have a better diet, it'll also make your skin look nicer, and your face will clear up. The first step is ALWAYS to stop drinking soda. Just cut it out right away. It's pretty easy to transition from soda to gatorade and then to water. Then quit eating frozen food, etc. You can still eat fast food and shit, just take calorie deficits into account. You don't even have to be super fit either, just don't be fat. Obviously being particularly fit gains you bonus points, but being fat is a lot more negative than being fit is positive if that makes sense.
It's just very frustrating to see people complaining about girls not liking them or feeling ugly when they can make some very simple changes to fix it. I see some guys that would legitimately be quite attractive if they'd clear up their face, get a haircut, and quit wearing sandals and cargo shorts everywhere.
Lengador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just discovered "khakis" doesn't mean "camo". Not sure why I thought that but some descriptions of characters in books make a lot more sense now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats not exactly simple, espeacially if you are low on money..
Sylxian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a personal experience to add to this. Within the past last year I started doing just this. Normally have to wear a button up shirt, slacks, and dress shoes for work anyway. But things just didn't seem as good as they could be.
Being a smaller yet stocky guy, its dam hard to find some good fitting shirts. So, pulling from my NJROTC days, I actually bought and started using shirt-stays again. Big difference now. Hell, being in IT, I can get under desks and reach up to high places and never have to worry anymore about my shirt being untucked. Just a quick pants/belt hitch, and bam, back to everything being in place again.
Also, with the most overall difference being this, I wanted to start incorporating vests in my normal work outfit. So I bought just one to try out, and dam! The compliments and thirsty looks just fucking rolled in. Ha, and gender didn't matter either with both. So the vests are here to stay. I look better and feel better with them on. Also, the even act a subtle fore-teller, to you, of your stomach size fluctuations.
The latest improvement is on winter wear. Zip-up jackets always did that flair out thing due to my stocky shoulders. And I've always hated puffy, cumbersome jackets too. Plus both always stop at the waist line, so when I sat down or bent over I was always greeted by Jack Frost's kiss to my lower back if I wasn't careful. So what did I do? I bought a nice wool-blend pea coat. World of difference; all the old issues are totally absent. And a big plus, it's a kind of formal coat to begin with. I can wear it anywhere and people mark remarks - even when I'm dressed more casually underneath.
Everything doesn't cost much either if you find them off of ebay. (Oh, I also got slim ties) The 3 ties were no more than $4.50 together, pea coat was $40, quality shirt-stays were $20, and if I ever stop procrastinating the vests are $10 a pop. So for $74.50 you can be a new man. In the future, however, I'm going to spend more on the vests. I'm also going to get a matching fedora (OMG, he just said that?!) for the pea coat. Know Your Hats: Fedora vs Trilby for most of you, if you don't click the link, think Indiana Jones you uneducated bastards. And, I still need to get better dress shoes, but since the ones I got are serving their purpose for now, I'm going to wait a bit more.
Cheers!
alfaleets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:48 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dark denim and a button down works really well too!
jonincalgary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Problem with this is when you work in a casual dress office. When you wear khakis or anything even remotely close to being nice, you get asked how the interview went.
severus66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
khakis are the least sexual garment ever invented, bar none.
Those pink bunny pajamas Ralphie wore in a Christmas story? Those have more sex appeal than khaki pants.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, don't wear running shoes casually. It looks sloppy.
Source: Am wearing running shoes with khaki
snowqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:04:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also dress "a little nicer" while wearing jeans and tshirt. Chose jeans that have a bit of a tighter fit, instead of the cheap, wide and ugly ones. And don't wear geeky shirts like this, because they are very often very ugly and don't fit very well. Wear t shirts like those (except #4).
Btw. I dislike Khakis, that's why I commented. (Button up shirts (that fit well) are cool, and also fit to jeans!)
CrepuscularHillbilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I appreciate what you're trying to do - and it is indeed possible to look nice in jeans and a t-shirt, but bro, come on. If you're paying $227 for a sleeveless t-shirt, you're a fucking idiot.
Get a solid color v-neck tee for $15, wear it with a nice pair of jeans ($40-$60 usually) and you can look fresh and crisp without going broke.
snowqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I would never pay that much, and many discounters have look alikes of the shirts I posted for 10-40$
CrepuscularHillbilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right on - sorry if my post came off overly harsh. The "you" in you're a fucking idiot wasn't specifically directed to you, more like the royal you.
snowqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No worries man, you're right. People are either dumb idiots or super rich if they buy tshirts for 250$.
peteisneat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:35:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To take it one step further, throw a sweater over that button up. Chicks dig layering.
You're the man now dog!
SiON42X ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:37:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeans and a t can look fantastic with the right shoes and jacket/hoodie.
[deleted] ยท 255 points ยท Posted at 14:27:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do things that broaden your horizons. Take something you do and do it bigger. Do things completely new. Go where you're least comfortable. Do the opposite of what your gut tells you every once in a while.
anachronic ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:35:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try to have at least 1 new experience a year, even if you think you might not like it.
A few years back I implemented this plan and went to a ballet on a whim. I honestly didn't think I'd like it, but I wanted to expand my horizons. Turns out, I loved it and have been back each year since.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:48:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Professional dancers are frickin' incredible! But until you've sat close to the stage? it's hard to appreciate. Just like pro sports, until you've seen it up close? You haven't really seen it.
anachronic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:57:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was front mezzanine so I guess I was close enough. It still blew me away. Lincoln Center in NYC is gorgeous, and Swan Lake was stunning.
Also - Alvin Ailey will redefine your ideas about dance if you haven't really been exposed to dance before. They're awesome.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jealous!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:23:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With proper, logical judgement. If a hobbyist were interested in pyrotechnics there is a point where it becomes too large and "gut" reasoning may be sufficient.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:54:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nonsense! Crashing and burning always makes for a more interesting story. Nobody wants to hear about that time you did everything right.
The_Celtic_Chemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do it bigger!!!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How big? 100 lbs thermite big?
elpaisita1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:27:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So instead of just occasionally smoking a bowl I should smoke a pound? Got it, thanks reddit!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:50:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should make a pilgrimage to the Parvati valley in India with a layover in Amstwedam if you want to get serious.
Randomn355 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:36:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going back packing as soon as I graduate. When I told my sister (9 years older) her immediate reaction was to laugh.
Not in a bitchy way because she's given me a few really good ideas and she's a traveller herself, but she knows it's really out of my usual kind of personality. and that's EXACTLY why I'm doing it. I'm excited but also a little terrified at the same time. I honestly cannot wait :D
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:50:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome! Do it! That's what I did, except I didn't wait until I graduated, and I rode my bicycle. It's a great way to travel. I just packed a tent and slept in farmers fields most of the time. A farmers daughter or two might even remember me.
Randomn355 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:19:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fully plan. I regret not doing it before I went back to studying really but live and learn!!
tejaco ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:54:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now you've given me ideas. Thank you.
SargeMacLethal ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make a Tinder account! Learn to play ukulele! Abandon your religion! Adopt a pet raccoon!
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:53:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make a religion! Learn to play raccoon! Abandon your ukelele! Adopt a local single!
You've got the right idea.
Randalf_the_brown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm used to being a city bloke and kind of a house hermit. Decided end of last year after saving up to start doing sailing courses. Almost got my coastal skippers and will be sailing to Australia as a first mate quite soon. Exciting and new times!! Hopefully..
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:32:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very nice! I crewed my way to India once. It's amazing. Nowadays I stick to my little beach-cat. The ladies love it!
Lancer506 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! Be adventurous! That's very attractive
EattheRudeandUgly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Mark Corrigans of this world are crying somewhere
CJ_Productions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drugs help this.
Charlotka ยท 1141 points ยท Posted at 15:05:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ask questions about other people.
One of the biggest turn offs for me is when people don't ask questions about others. It gives me the impression that they are self-centered and don't care about anyone else. Seriously.... ugh.
AHurriedDog ยท 557 points ยท Posted at 18:03:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sometimes wonder if people actually know something about me, because I'm that guy that asks a lot of stuff about other people to be kind and show interest. I love hearing those stories and I will remember them, usually the slightest details which I can amaze people with that I still remember them after a long time. But I've never had anyone to ask stuff happening in my life. This resulted in me keeping everything for myself. When I want to talk about myself to someone, I suppress that thought. I cringe of times I actually said something about myself to someone.
[deleted] ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 19:17:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have the same problem, one thing I started doing lately is when someone tells something about themselves, I tell them the same thing about me. Example: A friend tells me he is watching a certain show, so I tell them which show I'm currently watching. Then I ask them about their show, because I'm afraid it might come off as me trying to put the focus on myself. I'm awkward :(
Theovide ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:23:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think there is anything awkward about that. Telling them something similar about you as they told you is a way to relate to them, and asking questions is a way to seem interested. At least that's what I do .
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:03:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not awkward to talk about yourself a little, that's healthy conversation. The real trick is learning how to control the flow of conversation. One of the best things I did for myself which got rid of a lot of the awkwardness was I'd listen to what they're saying... fully. Then wait for the healthy pause to keep the conversation moving. I used to have something to say that would be planned way a head of time before they were finished talking and thus doing so I would kill the flow because it may have been off topic off of their finishing point and things would kind of stagnate. Nextly I stopped holding back what was on my mind to a healthy extent. Being afraid to say something or how you really feel about something can totally ruin a conversation if you're just mindlessly reinforcing what they're saying. They want to hear what's on your mind too, just at the right times. A great example is I went on a date yesterday and I'd ask her a question but we'd go waaaaay off topic. But I didn't try to go back to some funny comment that I thought of earlier because it would've been irrelevant at that point and instead just let it flown it's natural course. Most importantly I've learned I can't get a long with everybody and not everyone is quite worth your time. So don't expect to have an amazing conversation with everyone. Luckily I live in the south and it's quite easy to practice small talk with just about everyone I encounter.
creamyturtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:02:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
worth the read, +1
Kanzu5665 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:33:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can have a logical transition to have your own opinion. I like asking questions too and learning more about them, but I feel like people deserve for me to give something back"
"What shows you watching? What do you like about that show? Blah blah blah blah. That's interesting because it's kinda/nothing like the show that I'm watching. Have you heard of it? Yeah, I really like this part"
skittlemountain ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:05:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is called normal conversation. Don't feel bad about talking about yourself as well. If they're a decent person they'll be interested in what you have to say.
Exchanging things about each other is how a conversation develops. If one person is talking about themselves to you the whole time, I wouldn't call that a conversation, i'd call it a lecture; I get lectures at university, I don't need them in normal conversation as well.
PM_ME_UR_BELLYBUTON ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:24:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same as you and recently I had people tell me that I never share anything about myself. Well maybe if they asked me like I ask them..
approx- ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:34:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just really bad at thinking of questions to ask on the fly. Like... how was your weekend? Good? You went skiing? Ok, cool... ... well, I'll just be over here at my desk then. People (like you) ask questions of me and dig into deeper details of my response which is great, I just can't quite figure out how to reciprocate it. My mind doesn't work fast enough or something.
military_history ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:40:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have this and also the problem that I feel I'm annoying people if I interrogate them. I know this isn't the case, because I like being asked questions myself, but it's difficult to remember that.
AHurriedDog ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:18:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fine and I get that. But when people (like me) start telling them about stuff we do, at least act interested. A lot of people just don't seem interested when you start talking about yourself.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Practice makes perfect. A big thing is the difference between guys and girls. With guys I can totally speak my mind and talk about anything at all. With girls I bring up emotions more because I feel they relate better with that sort of thing. ig: guy- "what's up?" Girl-"how're you feeling today?"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! I love sharing thing about myself and would love to hear back from you, I'm just not quick enough on the draw to think of questions to ask back in response. It's a problem.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:18:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing worse than a one sided conversation.
ShinedownBoomLay ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:42:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, good ol' talking to a wall...
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:17:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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baconfall ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:31:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well don't keep us waiting. What's the Job ?
Funkajunk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:54:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dolphin rapist.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:06:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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baconfall ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:17:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That actually sounds like a really cool job
LordessMeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this happens with me too - my family tends to not ask about my day any more. It's definitely a self-propagating cycle because, on the occasions that my mother does ask, I'll usually give her a single word answer and not elaborate. Other times, if something interesting happens, I'll share of my own volition.
With friends it's about the same but if I harp on about a certain topic at length (I'm taking Japanese lessons right now and will bring it up fairly often), they'll definitely ask me about it.
So, yeah, share of your own volition and you'll get regular enquiries is my take away from all of this.
And you need to share about your job because now I'm curious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LordessMeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can totally understand why you might need to explain things in a simple language... I mean, sometimes I have to explain what I do in layman terms and I'm just a software engineer. :P
All I got from the wikipedia page was that you make magical chemistry predictions using computers... and that's pretty cool in my book. So have you actually managed to synthesize something new in the time that you've been working? Or do you tend to observe the current set of compounds instead?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:35:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LordessMeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:54 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't tend to meet people in such an obscure line of work on the regular so this is highly fascinating to me. :D
What are your methods though? When you're working to synthesize something, that is. I presume you just go off from what the mentioned organic chemists are theorizing. What would happen if a theory is viable?
JezzaN1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is me to a tee. maybe not quite to the extent of cringing about times i have spoken about myself, but 90% of conversations that have a good flow to them are because i ask questions or am generally interested in the other persons stories or what they have to say.
B4107 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 2 things to say.
1 - Are you me?
2 - I've gotten to the point now where I just act like I remember the story but not the small details now because at one point it got to where it weirded others out and I just decided to stop that even though I still remember small details.
Narwhals_Fire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is something interesting about you?
Deltahotel_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Open up, dude. Why do you think people watch tv? They like seeing what goes on in other people's lives(even if it is fiction). Just relax.
blindfoldedbadgers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do that because otherwise I'm really bad at talking to people I don't already know really well. It seems to work...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i talk too much so i usually just annoy people. I feel the same way you do sometimes.
Even when I ask good questions people give the shittiest of answers so i kinda just stopped asking.
JenPo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a good and a bad side to this. I remember this girl I studied abroad with. She aggressively grilled people about themselves like an interview, where people barely had time to take a breath and fully answer her question before she had another, and another, and another. By the time you were done telling her about your great-great-great grandmother's cousin, you just wanted to get the hell out of there. Then she would complain that she only asked questions of people--no one seemed to want to know anything about her!
The thing is, we would have loved to know about her! Especially if it made the questions stop! If you're just asking questions hoping that people will ask them of you, then you're doing it wrong. It should definitely be a conversation, not an interrogation. I like the answers about following up with what you're doing after you ask them. That way you can start building common ground on what you're sharing.
ShinedownBoomLay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you... me? wow. No one ever asks me questions that aren't on a superficial level.
Loftus189 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this story will be of any use to you but figure i'll say it anyway :)
I am exactly the same in terms of asking people questions. I love learning about the people i interact with and remember details because they actually interest me. When i started university i was 22 and i lived in halls with 7 people i had never met before, the first time i had lived away from home. I had a great year with the people there, and 6 of us became great friends. I did exactly as you said with learning so many personal stories and details about each of them and we really grew close, but i never brought up anything about myself. I answered the questions i was asked but in general i try not to go into too much detail as i feel like i'll be boring people with my stories.
So at the end of the year, we all get together and have a final meal before we all moved out in the summer. As we were so close we decided to go around the group and say our favorite thing about each other and also our least favorite thing, because we knew we could all take it without getting upset. To my surprise when they got to me the group were unanimous in that the negative thing was that they felt like they didn't know enough about me. They said they all often wanted to ask more but didn't because they felt like i didn't really want to discuss myself with them. Essentially i had been distancing them from getting to know me without even realising the whole time.
It taught me quite a good lesson. While i try not to randomly talk about myself in group conversations or bring up irrelevant information, i do make an effort now to actually say something about myself that relates to the conversation and just generally believing that people might actually want to get to know me and learn more about me as a person. I feel like it's made quite a big difference in terms of me actually becoming close with people and them knowing who i am.
If nothing else, people respond to your behaviour. If you seem reluctant to discuss yourself people will quickly stop asking, and while you might feel like nobody else is interested it might just be a case of them not wanting you to feel uncomfortable. You have to give out a bit of information to start with and the questions and interest will most certainly follow :)
Alexisgabriele ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if you feel this is an issue for you, but im the same way- genuinely interested in people's experiences, opinions, etc. i am very private though, and prefer it that way. people don't ask because I give them nothing to ask about. put yourself out there a little and that will spark the conversation/questions. but also some people are just obliviously self centered.
Tittytickler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I'm this guy too. Heres the thing, I feel like sometimes people are so surprised and excited that someone is actually taking interest in what they are saying/talking about that they forget to ask questions sometimes, and that is fine by me. Honestly it is fun for me because I have always been a jack of all trades type person so people also get really surprised and excited when something comes up and they had no idea I could do that! I'm kinda the human form of "theres an app for that" which is cool with me, it is probably what I take pride in most. That, and the fact that people tell me they just naturally feel comfortable around me, which is forsure a result of being interested in them as well as encouraging and accepting of what they tell me. So, I know it makes you cringe, I used to get that too, but people probably love you and probably would love to hear about you for a change even if they aren't explicitly asking.
ilikefruitydrinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's something I had to overcome. But you have to start somewhere. People want to listen. Tell cool or funny stories. Sometimes people don't laugh or find interest in what I say, but that's fine. I just shake it off by saying"No? Tough crowd" or something. Then they smile and life goes on
_king_of_time_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel the same. If we talked together a black hole would form
Mesha8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have to talk as well, otherwise it's not a conversation, it's an interview. If you want to talk aboit something, let's say a concert you went to. A good way to start conversation is by asking if the went, maybe one more follow up question. Then you tell them about you going. There needs to be a rytham of back and forth, telling and asking on both sides.
courtoftheair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always feel like I'm really self centred if I say anything about myself in a conversation. It's not as bad online, but I've had friends in real life who know nothing at all about me.
motherfuckingasshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kinds of questions do you ask?
I think part of my mistake is I don't know what to ask people. I've been trying very hard to come up with questions on the fly and make sure that I ask things but I still think I need more work. Any extra advice would be super helpful.
ArmedDillo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be like that for a long time, and then people started asking questions about me instead of just mentioning stuff about themselves while I listened.
Now I practically need to say stuff about me in conversations. I notice it, a lot, and it sucks 'cause I know I'm pulling attention to myself, but no one comments about it. Gotta re-learn to shut up and let others ramble.
at_home ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get this too, and i feel that when i meet new people im more likely to remmeber them but they wont really remember me.
rackfocus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a bit like you. It really makes me feel good when I see someone again and ask them about the little things they told me and they are like, "Wow you remember that about me? Thank you, your so nice." Just know your attention is a real pick me up for a lot of people and so you give them a bit of joy. People will remember you as a kind person, that's what they will know about you.
Ashuvain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am in the same boat. Except for a small detail. The reason people barely ever ask questions about myself, is because I barely ever talk about myself, and the few times people do ask something about me I always try to answer the question as simply as possible without revealing too much about me. I just don't like the way I live my life and take no pride whatsoever in telling other people about me. I don't have confidence problems, I am perfectly fine with who I am and how I am around people, I'm just not satisfied with what I've achieved because my ambitions are so much greater than my daily actions that I just cannot fathom why I would want to tell anyone who I am.
I think a lot of us who are lonely are like that. We think other people don't care about us, but it's us who shut ourselves out from other people, and then they pick up on it and act accordingly.
BeyondAddiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh this sounds like my workplace. I know so much about everyone's lives because I ask about their weekends, children, pets if that's their thing, whatever they've mentioned in conversation. I don't think anyone knows anything about me because I don't think they've ever asked.
frediiih ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me something about you please.
TKBaja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! And sometimes the only response is something about myself.
boombotser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my life
JungleMidgets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am exactly the same, tell me about yourself ! Oh wait...
sirtetris ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:27:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a huge social skill to have, but I don't think it's just a question of self-importance. Personally, I have a hard time asking people about themselves if I feel like they're above me. It's kind of hard to explain, but think of having a conversation with a kid, where you might ask them questions like do you like school, what grade are you in, what's your favorite class, and they'll answer but they won't have anything to ask you.
I guess what I'm saying is that not asking questions feels more like taking a submissive role in the conversation, rather than not caring about the other person.
VeloCity666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. Coming up with relevant questions is harder than answering them.
visiblysane ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:49:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you stopped beating your wife?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I spent a summer working with someone like this. She was a fun coworker but by then end of the summer I knew every single thing there was to know about her and she didn't even know where I was from.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:31:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Shot out of the cannon, Barbara Walters, Oprah Winfrey, your wife. You have to marry one, fuck one, kill one, go!"
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:31:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Yes, I am!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if we don't like talking about ourselves either? It is a pretty big universe, what we had for breakfast is a pretty boring topic.
Axxhelairon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like a personal problem.
TheSwellFellow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But don't ask too many questions, or else you sound interrogating.
el_blacksheep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a balance to it. When people only ask questions it feels like an interview. Statements should be treated as an opportunity to contribute to a discussion, not the entirety of the discussion itself.
anglerfishtacos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Asking question is part 1. Part 2 is actually listening to the answers people give you.
There is a woman I work with that is as nice as can be, but I avoid conversation as much as I can. She loves to start up a conversation with you with a question that is something you can answer, maybe something simple like "how you doing?", "did you have a nice holiday?", "you seen the new Star Wars movie yet?", etc. But once you start an answer, she interrupts and it is all about her.
Example conversation from when I came back from a trip to Las Vegas (not a word for word replication, but similar enough):
Her: Hey! How was Vegas?
Me: Oh great, we had a---
Her: My husband and I went to Vegas probably about 10 years ago, and it was just great. We stayed at Caesar's Palace, and it was just incredible how big it was. You are probably to young to remember this, but when I was younger there was a guy named Evil Keneval that would do all these tricks on his motorcycle. Jumping over stuff. Well years and years ago, he did a jump over the entire Caesar's Palace property! It was incredible. Of course when we went and I presume how it is now, Caesar's Palace is way bigger than when he did the jump.
Me: Yeah, it is pretty bi---
Her: Everything there is just so big and flashy. Can you believe how much money it takes to build one of those places? It is insane.......
........And on and on and on. Basically to the point where it seems obvious that she pretty much started a conversation with you so she could talk at you. The few times i have heard other people try to get words in edgewise (especially if the topic is something they care about) basically trying to talk over her, she just says "yep" one or two times then walks off.
TL;DR-- It is just as important to listen to people as it is to ask them questions.
SATANSroach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been making a conscious effort to ask people about themselves and pay attention to what they're saying. I didnt really notice I was only paying attention to myself until I found some people sort of light up when you ask them about themselves. It made me feel good seeing them get happy about it. I like to make people laugh even if it means making an idiot of myself. So when I noticed they get happy about me asking about them, I added it to my mental list of how to make people happy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is literally everyone I work with.
Source: currently at work.
Exaskryz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, what kinds of questions are there to ask? Because I can't take in 50 points of information all at once such as your favorite kind of pizza or how you got your dog or what your cat's name is or how many sisters you have.
Because anything that I can ask that I can relate to, they probably don't care about. Oh, you look at cat pictures on the internet too? Awesome!
malvim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, listen to them when they answer. I've seen people ask questions just to be nice and never really listen to you when you talk. It's frustrating.
bashar_speaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I ask questions tryna make conversation often the other person reacts negatively, like I'm being nosy or gossipy.
Duramax2003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I have a problem with not knowing what kinds of questions to ask people. I wish it came more naturally.
A habit I also possess that I am not sure is bad is when someone tells me a story, a lot of the time I feel like I try to relate by sharing a similar experience I went through (broad, I know, but you get the idea). I'm not sure if that's bad practice but it usually stems from not having enough words at the tip of my tongue to say more than like "Oh that sucks or that's awesome!"
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm always scared they will think I'm nosy.
TehMadness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm one of those guys. And frankly, I don't ask questions because I don't anyone to ask questions about me. I find those sorts of questions annoying and a turn off.
So... I'm just doing what I'd like to have done to me. Am I uninterested? Yeah, kinda. But I expect it back and it makes me happy. And you learn things about people as you go, so I've never found it an issue.
Th3HypnoToad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I'm terrible at. When I talk about to people I normally just talk about the usual stuff. "Oh you're at a climbing place, how long have you been climbing?" She's wearing a school shirt, "what are you studying?" But beyond the obvious, I get stuck like a deer in headlights. Is there a way to learn those kind of social skills besides going out and winging it? I'm not a social recluse but I'm not a butterfly either. Would like to learn
itaShadd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not always easy: some people are so uninteresting that you can't come up with anything to ask, bar general small-talk. But I guess that's the kind of people by which one doesn't care to be found attractive.
courtoftheair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do that too much, apparently. I'm experimenting by with talking about myself and then asking a related question, or asking and then answered by myself. It's a bit hit-and-miss so far, but it's getting better. Balance is good.
MyOwnSummer69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what if you're the shy type of person who is afraid of starting a conversion with anyone who isn't your friend.
Gierlappen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm one of these people you're talking about. I notice it and I hate myself for being that quiet not interested guy. But it's not that I'm not interested, just as soon as someone is talking to me, my head is empty. Even simple questions like "How were your holidays" appear in my head hours after a conversation.
Xwolfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that depends sometimes - some people just wanna know stuff about other people so that they can then criticize said person for it or talk behind their backs about it. I personally prefer to talk to everyone myself (If they happen to be around that is).
ooplease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially hard when you actually are really self-centered
Carl_the_Glorious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do wish people didn't give half-assed replies to them all the time; I'd certainly be much more inclined to do so. Often it seems they are too busy doing what they are (which isn't typically anything). Ahh, but the goodness when they give a meaningful reply, it becomes worthy.
Erinnerungen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The aspect of this that is often overlooked is that it puts so much pressure on the person asking questions, because, without them, the conversation dries up.
kitywompus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:34 on January 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One sided conversations are a very fast way for me to realize I should stop talking to someone
violetxrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly don't know what to ask.
bicameral_mind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start with, "how was your day/how is your day going?". Hopefully you get more than a one word answer and you can build on their response.
If you just get a good/bad, follow up with "why? what happened?", or be more specific like, "work going okay?".
Once the ball is rolling it's easy to ask deeper questions about the topic at hand. Just start general and unassuming.
JorisK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To add to this: Ask people why they do/think/like things when they give you an answer. Oftentimes this leads to actual conversation and interesting remarks instead of a more 'interview'-esque conversation with 'shallow' answers.
2boredtocare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How are you doing today, /u/charlotka?
:D
Charlotka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:30 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great! It's a beautiful day and I am sitting in a cafe reading.
How are you, /u/2boredtocare?
2boredtocare ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:09 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm alright. Honestly, just crossing off the days until vacation in a few weeks. We're surprising the kids with a long weekend in Florida. They've only flown once, so I can't wait to see their reaction when we pick them up form school on a random Weds and head to the airport. :D
Cheers!
zedoktar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been trying to learn this but I never know what to ask. Part of it is my damned anxiety, makes my mind go blank and tongue lock up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How are you lately, by the way?
Advocates_Devil ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:01:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like I am lacking in this department.
Turns out I'm actually friendly, just socially inept.
knightni73 ยท 1986 points ยท Posted at 14:31:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower every day and wash yourself thoroughly.
If you smell nice, it's a big plus.
friday6700 ยท 1546 points ยท Posted at 16:20:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I pride myself on smelling good. I'm a big guy, I look like a dork, I dress like a hobo but I smell fabulous. I love it when people tell me I smell good, because there's always that hint of surprise in their voice. I look like I should smell like pot and salty garbage, but I don't!
[deleted] ยท 853 points ยท Posted at 17:06:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was using a Cologne a part of your plan ?
WMDTHEALMIGHTY ยท 290 points ยท Posted at 17:47:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I wash it off will you die?
shmameron ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 18:45:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be extremely painful
FunOnDaBun ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:31:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be extremely smelly
RelevantComics ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're a clean guy
protagonizer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:45:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For you ;)
Therealbigteddy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:32:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be extremely pleasuring
scrummy30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be very painful.
Wub_Wub_Wowzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be very painful...
TheRPiGuy ยท 507 points ยท Posted at 17:10:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
4U
kbobdc3 ยท 260 points ยท Posted at 18:06:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CRASHING THIS PLANE.
CreamNPeaches ยท 264 points ยท Posted at 18:34:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
WITH NO SHURVIVORSH
Edit made for /r/shubreddit
EbenumStudios ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:34:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have we started the thread, boss?
Pakman332 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:13:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, the thread rises.
DKSeven ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of us must get downvoted brother.
SamuraiBadger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bane reading off of scrambled cue cards.
FoamToaster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:46:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FOR YOU...
Man_Of_Spiders ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS
David_the_Wavid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Survivorsh*
Squeggonic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:38:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THE TAIL'S GOOOOOOOOOOONNNNEEEE
ceepington ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:02:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what would happen if i took off that fedora?
kilopeter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would be extremely tasteful.
ThatRPiGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Felt the need to say hi to you after thinking my account has been hacked or something.
What's up
TheRPiGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hello friend ('-')/
kyogre97 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:43:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, he uses cocoa butter
TheRPiGuy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:08:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The key to success
Honeypaaj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE COCOA BUTTER TRUSSS ME
AdamtheGrim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? He washes with cocoa butter?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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You_KnowWhoItIs ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:56:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they dont want us to tell him
wizard024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't pay him for it.. They should tho
Garabaduck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dove
sarge21 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:03:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:37:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me about friday6700! Why does he wear the cologne???
SwirlySauce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OF CORSHE
Koean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He sprayed it under his dress
ImFromTimBuktu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bartolo Colon
Ancel3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused, are big guys not supposed to use cologne?
I really haven't heard anything about it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. I was just making a reference to the Dark Knight Rises
Wierdminionguy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
maybe is maybelline?
IAmAWizard_AMA ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:42:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what all do you mean by "smell nice?" I wear deodorant, but I don't know much about colognes and such, I'm all uncultured
Randyy1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:17:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go with an EDT (Eau De Toilette).
They usually have testers in stores, so bring a female friend, so she can tell you which one smells the nicest on you. A fragrance that works for your friend (or a youtube fragrance reviewer) might not work for you, we all have different natural odors that go better with some fragrances than others.
Apply 2-3 spritzes to the chest and the neck, right after showering. EDTs usually last 3-4 hours, so you would apply it before a date or whatever, so it's not an all day solution. If you want something longer lasting, go with a EDP (Eau De Perfume), which last 4-5 hours. EDC (Eau De Cologne) only last 2 hours or so.
adaminc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:28:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most importantly is that cologne is meant to be discovered, not announced.
LoL-Front ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IMO just go with an EDT, there are ones that last all day long and they usually have milder sillage so they don't smell across the room which is nice. Check out fragrantica.com.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:28:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great write-up I found a while ago that helped me choose my first cologne and I still occasionally go back and reference.
NottyScotty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:11:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just find some you like the smell of and buy it. Unless there is some sort of science of cologne I'm unaware of.
gossipbomb ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:29:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a science to it! I went to a museum that had an exhibit on the science of perfumes and colognes. Why certain ones smell good to some people and bad to others. Also certain fragrances smell different whether they are applied to fabric or to your skin. It also had a giant machine with tons of buttons so you could combine different notes to make your perfect perfume.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:11:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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gossipbomb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a girl, so I'm more of a vanilla, amber perfume kinda person.
blackashi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which museum was this?
gossipbomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I forget. It was a traveling exhibit around 8 years ago? But I don't remember where... I'm sorry!
AlphaAgain ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:40:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is.
It will not smell the same from the bottle as it does on your skin.
Best way to pick a cologne is to put a small sample on each wrist, wait 15 minutes, then ask a random lady which one smells better.
The1trueboss ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:35:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is. You need to find a fragrance that mixes well with your natural scent. Based on your body chemistry the smell of cologne while wearing it may be different than how it smells in the bottle. Also many people tend to wear lighter more citrus like fragrances in summer and heavier scents like woods and leathers during winter.
Edit: Some grammar
_asfuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Biggest tip with cologne: don't wear too much. Like, one or two sprays. You can't smell it yourself due to olfactory adaptation but it'll still be there. You want girls to smell how nice you smell when they happen to get close to you. You don't want them to choke on the scent trail you left behind 5 minutes after you leave a room.
As for a recommendation: Burberry Brit Rhythm is possibly the cologne I've been complimented on the most.
friday6700 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a small unlabled bottle of generic mens cologne smell in my bathroom that I use from time to time sparingly. I've had it for years, I don't remember buying it and neither does my wife. For all I know it could be topical medicated spray for dogs, but it makes me smell nice when we go somewhere special. Never liked Axe or any of those other sprays that make you into a walking biohazard. Just shower, clean clothes and regular grooming.
ANUSTART942 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Axe is okay if you pick the right kind. I'm a fan of their Pheonix scent as well as Peace. Not sure if they make it anymore, as I haven't seen it lately, but I had a gift set of it that was Metallic or something, had iron in it. Noticeably got compliments on smelling nice while I used that.
inuvash255 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:07:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The big thing with Axe is to never use more than a puff. Any more than that, and you might as well go take another shower.
ANUSTART942 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:16:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! They literally put instructions on the can. I think it's just one swipe from the top of the chest to the back of your neck? I don't even use that much. Still won't stop people from spraying a cloud of it on themselves. Not sure why I was downvoted for liking Axe though.
inuvash255 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:21:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because "Axe is awful".
It's just a strong scent for an aerosol can, that's all.
IAmAWizard_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I make sure to shower and wear clean clothes. I just have some generic deodorant that smells kind of nice (I know not to wear Axe, at least) but I don't know what a good deodorant or cologne would be
friday6700 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, it all kinda smells the same to me. If I didn't have the mystery bottle I'd probably get another as a gift at some point.
_suckittrebek_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FYI, every woman I know (myself included) loves the scent of the original Swiss Army cologne. I make my husband wear it because I love it so much, he could care less, lol. But I recommend trying that one!
l0te ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to smell you now.
2boredtocare ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I imagined you finishing that sentence with jazz hands.
friday6700 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I need to jazz hands more.
"Love you!"
"Goodbye!"
"I'd like a large number two to goooooo!"
zboy7082 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please teach my roommate your ways. Same description yet even after a shower he smells like he just rubbed himself with rotting cheese.
aLovelyTwitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I work with you, a coworker is the exact same way! While he looks like a hobo and I dress in "nicer" clothes, pretty sure he smells better.
Unobud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that I often do smell of pot is the reason my personal hygiene game is so on point. Not going to work smelling like Harold and Kumars apartment.
friday6700 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard drakkar noir covers up pot best, but I don't smoke so I've never needed to try it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I smoke a lot of weed and have yet to come across something that actually covers up the smell of weed. I've worn some pretty fragrant cologne but it's a leaf in the bowl compared to the dank smell of bud.
IQuoteRelevantSongs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Del?
0j0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I really want to see you :). (I'm also a lover of nice fragrance)
beartracks33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brian Posehn, is that you?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a coworker who was, well, pretty obese. Not just fat but like "oh dear I hope he's going to be ok" kind of fat.
Anyway, you'd think a dude like that sweats and stinks, but this guy was always 100% fresh. He'd walk by and smell like he just stepped out of a spa shower. Totally changed my initial opinion of him. I wanted to tell him he smells nice because it was just that good but I thought I'd come off as a weirdo.
friday6700 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It probably would have made his day.
littleblueorchid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish my husband does this. He does shower in the morning before work, but after he gets home he is smelly again. Really don't want to hug him it kiss him after that.
413612 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you make yourself smell good? I wash with soap every night, and occasionally a spray of cologne. Is that all? How do I know I'm not the smelly kid?
CptJeanLucPeculiar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just want to hug you right now!
DAZTEC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you me? Since when did I make a second account? I don't remember writing this.
vagina_fang ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:03:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not dress well?
Seems strange to only use one power of hygiene when you have several slots available.
friday6700 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:24:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the clothes I'm comfortable in. So does my wife. That's all I need.
vagina_fang ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:44:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you like what hobos wear?
Interesting.
Let me just ask my lingerie model girlfriend what she thinks of that.
friday6700 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:42:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-shrug- I'm comfortable wearing baggy jeans, t-shirts and hoods. My wife's opinion is the only woman's opinion that matters to me. She finds me sexy and vice versa. No model or anyone really could ever change that. :)
vagina_fang ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:44:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-Shakes head-
You don't get jokes.
friday6700 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get good jokes.
vagina_fang ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:00:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2 kewl for skool u r.
friday6700 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry brah. You can keep trying, but I'm out. :)
vagina_fang ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:23:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool man. You're too cool for me. That's why you keep replying.
freshbreeze987 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:24:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey pot smells awesome!
RallyUp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:35:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I smell good for the most part but my room smells like fresh weed all the time.
I assume people know I smoke it.
It's not a bad thing, man. heh
friday6700 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: You smell like weed all the time.
RallyUp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:14:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHO TOLD YOU!?!
FashBug ยท 760 points ยท Posted at 19:11:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to add something.
I used to find my skin so dry it would crack and bleed, even with lotion. My hair was so dry and frizzy I could pull it out without effort. I remember in middle school I was sent to the office because my hands bled all over my class work. I got a slip to see the doctor.
He told me to stop showering every day. My skin was being dried out constantly, and the lotion wouldn't work because I'd wash it off. My hair had no natural oil in it. It was stiff and frail. He told me to shower every other or every third day, and to use a washcloth on sweaty areas i.e. my face, pits, and breasts. He told me to only shower two days in a row if I had done a strenuous activity like a workout or yard work. And finally, I was told to start using artificial oil in my hair.
The difference is night and day. My hair is beautiful, my skin is soft and smooth, and I'm still hygienic and glowing. If anything, decreasing my showering increased my appearance.
I understand your point. Practice good hygiene. But if someone's reading this who doesn't shower everyday, you're not gross. Find a schedule that maintains both cleanliness and comfort in your own skin.
anumati ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:04:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, for those who tend to dry out: When showering, use the cool or tepid water if you can. Much better for skin and hair. Also not staying in there for ages. If you're not washing your hair, you can be in and out in 5 minutes or so. And only using soap/bodywash on areas that need it not everywhere.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:43:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Showercapssss....
hosieryadvocate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. In another comment, I suggested staying in for 30-60 minutes. That being said, we don't want to waste time, water, and soap. We don't want to damage our skin unnecessarily.
Use cold water for as much washing as possible [e.g.: hand washing throughout the day]. The cooler, the safer it is for your skin.
On the other hand, cold water doesn't rinse out the soap as well, so we do have to figure out what works best.
If we need more time in the shower, then turn off the water, while lathering.
anumati ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The kind of soap can make a huge difference. I use olive or black soap. Gets me just as clean, way less harsh on my skin.
superflojo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes avoid like the plague any products with sodium laureth sulfate - pure detergent (check hand wash too)
Calypte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:14:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get sulfate and parabens free shampoo from The Body Shop, and use Dr Bronners Magic Soap for my body. After my shower sometimes I put a tad of coconut oil in my hair while it's still wet as a leave-in conditioner. The state of my skin and hair has vastly improved since I switched to less harsh soap.
felinelawspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
30-60 minutes?!?!!?
I think you meant... something else.
I hope.
hosieryadvocate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:-( Unfortunately, I'm pretty slow. My mind wanders, and my skin is really greasy.
Deliziosax ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 20:32:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, showering and soaping up all of your skin EVERY DAY is seriously bad for your skin (and if you use shampoo every day your hair will be a frizzy mess unless you're lucky).
But people still think you're disgusting if you don't shower every single day. Their loss, your doctor and you are right!
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:35:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use a shower cap when I take a shower. I need to wash everyday because I'm a janitor but my hair was getting really frizzy because of it. I've also started braiding it because ponytails would just cause knots (long hair) and buns killed the ends.
eelsify ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've started braiding my hair before sleeping and using coconut oil treatments, my hair is so lovely now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I use too much oil when I do it so I haven't. I have started the no poo thing again. I did it for a very long time until I got tired of having to make it.
eelsify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting the oil out of your hair is definitely the hardest part. Sometimes I have to shampoo like 2-3 times to get it out.
I was thinking of doing no-poo but I'm scared!!!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just make sure you rinse it all out. It won't hurt your hair at all. There's tons of recipes and stuff when you're doing the vinegar part make sure it's not a lot of vinegar to water otherwise you'll smell like a pickle and I think it makes your hair greasy. I think it's darkening mine but my hair fluxates from an ash blonde to a wheat blonde all the time.
conse105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
use apple cider vinegar diluted with water and rinse your hair with it. it makes it feel awesome and clean and the cider smell goes away after like half an hour.
Calypte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get fractionated coconut oil with a dropper bottle top. Put 10 drops in your hands (+ 1 drop essential oil if you're feeling fancy), rub together, then run your hands through your hair right after your shower while it's still wet. The wetness distributes the oil better than dry hair, and it's a small enough amount to not feel greasy while still making your hair feel soft.
photocist ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:41:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has more to do with how they smell and if they have shit on them rather than me asking how much they shower.
Chuurp ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:43:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the problem for most people is the transition period. If I were to shower every day for a couple months, then skip a couple days, my hair would get disgustingly greasy and I would get sticky and itchy. You need to find a time to suffer though the transition, then cut your frequency back and let your body adjust.
Deliziosax ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:16:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I absolutely understand, I've heard from more people that because of their excessive hair washing their hair gets disgusting after one day.
But to stop that you've got to power through that transition period indeed. Have you?
sogwennn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP, but I've moved to solely clarifying conditioner, no shampoo. The transition period wasn't long, but I still struggle with stretching conditioning because I struggle to find clarifying conditioners.
your_rectum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I play rugby and I probably end up working out anywhere between 7 to 10 times a week between weight workouts, practice and games. Because of this, I always shower at least once a day and a solid amount of the time, twice a day. Should I not be doing this? I mean my skin and hair seem fine but I don't want to fuck it up. I don't want to be walking around smelling bad all the time either though.
FashBug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:06:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no doctor, but if you're hygienic and comfortable, don't try to fix what isn't broken.
NaykedNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've started only washing pits, balls, and ass sometimes when I shower. After a workout and I'm all sweaty, I'll do a full body wash.
I used to use shampoo every time, but have been only using it like once every 3-4 days and have noticed my hair looks so much better.
thezawesome1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use to use shampoo everyday and I was told that it looked fine, maybe I was lucky though.
amybris ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My whole life I've only showered every other day. So thank you for this!
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:09:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cuttlefish_tragedy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:20:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You still lose some oils. Even a plain-water shower can be drying for sensitive skin, especially depending on your tap water.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may have just changed my life. Thank you!
afettz13 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:42:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started the baking soda for shampoo and apple cider vinegar for conditioner. Works wonders for I'm between cleaning with out stilling the oils outta your hair!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another shampoo that is good is fermented rice water, common in Asia.
afettz13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:31 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds.... weird.
stuffandmorestuff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:04:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was pretty much my advice here, but just to reiterate what FashBug said.
I'll probably shower every day, but that just means running water over myself. Every 2 or so days I'll use soap on my body, and probably once a week I'll shampoo my hair. You're body will naturally take care of it's self after about a week or two. You build up effective, no greasy oils and they keep you clean and stink free.
ketoketo666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, all of this. Finally my hair could grow past my shoulders after switching to washing it once every 4 days.
Nova8787 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I initially thought you were gonna try to sell something... Anyways, i have extremely curly, dry, brittle hair, learned a long while ago not to wash it everyday! It's much more manageable!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glowing?? Are you sure you arent using radioactive uranium as a lotion?
FashBug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So THAT'S why I've been able to read my cat's thoughts...
OnlySlightlyCrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was the same...felt like a wrinkled nasty prune with impossible hair until I went down to showering every three days. Yup, do the freshen up with a washcloth of the sweaty bits, day 3 I might use a bit of dry shampoo but that's rare now, and I look and feel so much better. I don't even need to moisturize any more. Saving time, saving money, win win!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I shower every day but don't use any products other than what's needed for brushing my teeth most of the time. I wash my hair about once every four days, the rest of the time I just tie my hair up and keep it dry. I get dry skin too, but ever since I stopped using most products I've been fine.
DeathWithDishonor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of oil/how much do you put in your hair?
I have a fuck ton of hair but damn it gets frizzy so nowadays I only even get it wet once every few days or even once a week... cause the oils that build up actually keep it tame and decent looking.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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DeathWithDishonor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of oil should I get? And you're saying to do it after showering without shampooing/conditioning? But while getting your hair wet?
FashBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I use Moroccan oil after a shower with shampoo and conditioner. While it's damp, but not dripping. I put it on my ends. My hairs so long, my natural oil never gets there.
DeathWithDishonor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:12 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, you keep saying roots but for some reason I keep thinking you mean the ends of your hair. You mean you apply the oil directly onto your scalp and spread it down toward your ears? You don't apply it all the way down your hair?
FashBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:08 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooo, opposite. I mean roots as in where your hair comes from on the scalp. Do not oil there. Start at the ends.
DeathWithDishonor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:13 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn this post just confused me even more. So when you say start at the ends......... you mean the roots near your scalp? cause usually the ends of hair means.... the end not near your scalp XD
FashBug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:31 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A root is a place from where things can grow, namely your hair. Your roots are on your scalp.
DeathWithDishonor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:53 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, indeed it is! So start the oil from the roots and work downward toward the ends? Only reason I'm confused now is cuz you said:
no aggressive tone intended if you pick that up from the bolding/italics
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just use cocoa butter. No way im skipping showers
Shortbreadis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is important for a lot of people, I had a similar experience to yours.
Fun fact I recently learned - if you need to add moisture to your skin, put on oil (coconut, almond, etc.) while you're STILL WET FROM THE SHOWER. Lotion locks whatever moisture is (or isn't) on your skin in, so if you want to keep that part, do it after the oil to seal everything in.
Also, if you have frizzy hair, use a silk pillowcase, as cotton absorbs moisture (duh) and dries it out. Satin works too, but my skin would break out - silk breathes. I assume this is great for the skin too, saving up myself.
RallyUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for dashing the confirmation bias I had just absorbed. I was starting to think I needed to adjust my routine because I wouldn't fit in unless I wash (with soap and shampoo) daily.
I do it every other day or third day but I still shower daily to rinse off and hydrate the flesh under my pores.. And I still get dry skin but I cope with it for the most part.
bradgillap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the opposite. The thought of not showering before leaving the house is terrifying. Even it I take a 3 hour nap I wake up all greasy.
Erzsabet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've decreased my hair washing to once a week (but bathe more often than that) and my hair went from frazzled to long, smooth, and shiny, even if I color it.
frosttenchi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was an episode of Adam Ruins Everything
Another-Anony-Mouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which artificial oil do you use for your hair if you don't mind me asking?
FashBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't remember the specific brand right now. It's Moroccan hair oil in a squeeze bottle. Maybe the size of a bottle of Tylenol.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
Lotion
???? I don't get it. How many showers were you taking a day ha
strayacarnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This very much depends on the climate you live in. My co-workers would not appreciate this.
summonerbotone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my girlfriend has a really bad reaction to frequent showering and usage of soap but she substitutes it with lotions and there's this awesome bubble bath/shower gel that feels really good on her skin. She showers once every day or two but almost rarely uses soap and she still smells great. Likewise I have really mild eczema but get bad reactions on my armpits if I use deodorant often so I occasionally (twice a week, ish) exfoliate my armpits to clean out my pores and reduce sweat build-up.
tl;dr you have to find the routine that suits you while maintaining your health and hygiene. Don't feel weird because you don't do what's "normal". Everyone is different!
abstractwhiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This also varies from person to person. My skin produces way too much oil to do this. Not washing my hair just results in terrible oiliness.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:02:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. North Americans are the only people on this planet that shower every day, it's so weird, and totally unnecessary. Yeah maybe for that small part of the population that gets really smelly in one day it's necessary, but for most people it's doing more harm then good.
fondantbaby ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:22:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are you talking about? I live in Chile and almost everyone showers every day, and if you don't you get frowned upon.
fenwaygnome ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:55:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a self-hating North American who heard that untrue factoid, don't pay attention to him.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No?
Wild_Link_Appears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh, European and almost everyone i know showers daily.
ROLLIN_BALLS_DEEP ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:58:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my gf see not showering together for 3 days as healthy :)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:11:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your male principal told you to wash your breasts and put on lotion?
His name wasn't Principal Buffalo Bill was it?
candywax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no, her principal told her to see her doctor and her doctor had all that advice about bathing.
Imasturbateallday ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do you not work out daily?
JesusChristSuperFart ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You probably would've been fine just not using bleach for soap
FashBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because everyone's skin is like yours.
Genetics are a bitch yo.
geekworking ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:11:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All scent should be limited to your personal space. Pleasant or not, nothing should be detectable beyond a couple of feet away.
This makes scents much more attractive because the scent is more exclusive. You only capture the scent by chance or if you were invited into the person's personal space. Super hot or super creepy depending upon the people involved.
SneakyBadAss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:56:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially woman hair scent.
grooviegurl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fragrances should be a discovery, not an announcement.
aero_nerdette ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 17:40:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being clean and well-groomed goes a long way. Wearing too much cologne can be a major turn-off for those of us with allergies to fragrances...it's great when you take her breath away with a romantic gesture, but not so much when it's because of allergy-induced airway constriction.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:24:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that in general, if people can smell your cologne without invading your personal space, you're using too much of it.
Kittens_in_mittens ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love the smell of just a clean person. Not one who is doused in Cologne or perfume, but one who smells like soap and as if they just hopped out of the shower. It is a huge turnoff when someone has doused themselves in perfume or cologne (a very subtle spritzing is okay though).
2suns-in-the-sunset ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, even most people without allergies to perfumes and colognes don't like it either. It always brings me back to memories of the smell of middle school hallways... Barf.
montagic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably around people who are still wearing old spice. A nice, uninvasive cologne does wonders, especially when it's nicer quality.
drbluetongue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god this guy at my work you can smell his cologne after he's been in the toilet 15 minutes later. Normally can smell him 10m before he gets to your desk, he must go through liters of it and half the girls LOVE it and the other half are like "dude tone it down" its quite funny
Psych555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a choice, do you want to have general appeal towards everyone or maximum appeal towards a smaller fraction of the population.
whoknowsanthony ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:37:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i don't buy into the myth that we need to shower everyday
BurntRussian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if you're quoting HIMYM or you seriously believe this (not that I have a problem with it, just curious)
Chuurp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:46:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you definitely shouldn't use soap/shampoo every day. Nothing wrong with rinsing off though.
BurntRussian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I know, I was just curious because that was also a direct line from HIMYM and couldn't tell if he was using that specifically in jest or not.
whoknowsanthony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just started binge watching..again. And I honestly don't shower everyday. if i do then i don't wash my face or hair, only my body. my hair has never looked better btw.
BurntRussian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:58:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, no, I agree that you don't have to shower everyday. My friends seem to agree, too, so I don't feel weird about it. And absolutely true about the hair, coming from a guy with thick hair.
ColoniseMars ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:30:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you want me to be a walking itchy snowcloud? Shit is horrible for your skin mate.
mightybeans ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:40:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Showering every day is bad for your skin and hair, im a guy with long really thick hair so I wash it every second day and it stays clean way longer and my skin is no where near as dry as it used to be when I showered daily. I dont start smelling like sweat and b.o after 1 day, maybe if your doing physical exercise then have a rinse afrer but if not no need to shower every single day. Just make sure when you do shower you soap up and wash your asshole otherwise the smell of sweaty feces permeates through the air
Grazer46 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:54:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every day is overkill though. Taking a shower every day can have negative effects (Too lazy to find the sources right now, though), so I shower every other day instead. I still smell nice, and it's better for my skin.
mapguy ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:50:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except that washing everyday is bad for your skin. Wear deodorant every day and wash every other day.
ranatalus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:26:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Showering every day regardless of activity level is actually bad for your skin/hair/immune system. Every 2-3 days is more preferable.
Of course, this goes out the window if you're physically exerting yourself (either by working out or by an active job) OR if you're in an environment where cleanliness is important (medicine).
Otherwise, save the water, save your skin, save some time.
trust_my_shadow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:53:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Even if you aren't rich or funny or attractive, smelling good will give you at least half a chance of landing who you want in bed.
whis_gin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:00:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
head or feet first?
trust_my_shadow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:04:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to know more about this "smell nice" please.
I usually just slap on deo and call it a day, and shower twice a day. While I know nothing about colognes and other fragrances (I really don't; am not Jon Snow though), I'm wondering if that's what you're referring to with "smell nice".
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:47:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Showering twice a day seems like a lot...
But honestly just use bodywash in the shower, deodorant, wear clean clothes, and brush your teeth and you should smell fine. I rub some Cologne on my wrists/neck if I'm dressing up, otherwise smelling "neutral" is fine.
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:39:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know much about other people's routine, but I've actually been told that by other friends before but never thought much about it because I've done it that way for many years. I'd like to put it to you here to see if it is indeed weird/excessive:
Every morning I'll shower before work, and I'll shower once more after I come back. Whenever I shower I also shampoo my hair, in addition to using a soap bar and facial wash after. I like showering twice because I cannot stand the oily feel I get after a long day; my face feels oily, sometimes my body feels icky and my hair gets oily too. I'm starting to wonder if showering so often (and shampooing) is causing my hair to shed more as well (I don't have MPB but my hair is quite thin that I can see the scalp).
Thanks for your insight!
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:14:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They say you're not even supposed to shampoo your hair every day, let alone twice a day. Nothing wrong with an extra shower but consider using less product.
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Noted. So just wet hair in the shower but no need for shampoo, and dry it after as usual?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I still "wash" my hair even when I don't shampoo it
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So just run water through the hair with hands?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:07:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look man at a certain point you need to figure out some of this stuff by yourself
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true. Thanks for your help.
grooviegurl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:48:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your body and hair probably feel oily because you're destroying your body's lipid barrier that keeps it all in balance.
allaboutthatsleep ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:00:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Personally I wash my hair twice a week (long hair) as otherwise my hair becomes really dry and brittle from stripping the oils and falls out a lot way more so that may help.
I've grown up applying a mixture of coconut and almond oils to my hair before I shower. I slightly heat up the mixture before application and leave the mask on over night but even 20 minutes is good. It's helped with the dryness, sped up growth and less hair fall out.
See what works for you!
Edit: word swap
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I'll try this out!
Stevey854 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dear God stop washing your hair so much.
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what's the proper way then? Just get my hair wet during the shower with no shampooing and dry it out as usual?
Stevey854 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:26:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either rinse with water or leave it dry. Only shampoo every 2 or more days. Make sure to use conditioner afterwards.
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. So I've been doing this wrong the entire time. What about the times where I have product on my hair? Do I go to bed with the product still there?
Stevey854 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rinsing with water should be enough
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome. Thank you for the guidance.
grooviegurl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Wash product out at night. Leave it dry in the morning or just get it damp to style it.
Deliziosax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus christ how do your skin and hair look?
With shampoo and soap you aggressively remove ALL OILS from the skin (you dry that shit out). Twice a day?! That'll only cause overproduction of hair oil probably in the end.
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hair is oily and my skin gets oily (and flaky in the shower).
Yeah thanks to the other redditors I've realized my mistake now.
EDIT: haven't had anyone
share the shower with mepoint that out to me explicitly and I've been living like that since I was young and thought it was normalCitrus_Zest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Is it just me or did the first half of this read like the opening to American Psycho?
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I suspect I have psychotic tendencies.
TheBlankState ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're pretty much fine right there, as long as it's not a really cheap smelling deo.
If you're interested in smelling really nice, go to a cologne store and have them help you pick out a cologne that you like.
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a procedure on how to narrow the selection down to what you'd like?
KMFDM781 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I ask random female co-workers....troll the fashion subreddits and ask...you can get a pretty good idea from those. Generally speaking, a good cologne isn't cheap....expensive scents smell expensive and classy...
Keep in mind that some colognes work better with your natural body chemistry and make you smell amazing. Buy magazines that have samples in them, open the flaps and rub them onto your arms...it's enough to tell how they will work with your body.
RoyalStraightFlush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good call, I will start doing that.
WorkUpvoter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I usually ask my girl friends if they like my cologne. So I guess the answer is get samples of what you personally like, then ask your close girl friends.
experimentxy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On that note, while wearing cologne/perfume can make you smell nice, wearing too much has a negative effect. People don't need to be able to smell you across the building or have a coughing attack while standing near you. Something subtle goes a long way.
Mightbeagoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having good smelling Cologne does some good shit for you. As long as you don't go overboard and no one can smell you from 15 feet away, it will definitely spark some people's interest.
OpinesOnThings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't need to, got that musk going on!
Walrus-Boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't scrub your face, wash it gently
Muhfuga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cocoa butter is the key
Tinfoilpain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Along the same lines of smelling nice, Wear fresh clothes as often as you can! More often than not your clothes will be smellier than you are!
ferlessleedr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's gotten to the point where not showering is an actual choice I have to make, whereas roll out of bed get in shower is completely standard. And this is as a guy who has problems making habits (ADHD).
Why? As a teenager I was told a few times that I smelled bad, once or twice at a job. I can't smell. Learning from somebody else was horrifyingly embarassing, so now I just live in a perpetual fear of my own stink, which is completely undetectable to me. If my only activity on a given day is a quick run to the grocery store I still shower before going. I own zero sweatpants. There are no sweatpants days for me. I shower before doing ANYTHING that involves going outside the house.
Deltahotel_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now if I could only remember what the flag of Switzerland looked like..
SneakyBadAss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Problem is, when you met people who are bombarded with perfume ads and they don't remember anymore how human species smells. So even if you wash yourself every day, you still smell awfully for them, because you don't remind them of some kind of fucking walking fruit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*wash yourself thoroughly = getting down and scrubbing your legs and feet. Soapy run off from your torso is NOT sufficient.
I'd like to emphasize this part seeing as how so many disgusting turds don't understand this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be in r/gaming.
Hothr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear something with the swiss flag on it. Its a big plus.
Crash324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't shampoo everyday.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone whose worked in sales, nothing would get me to walk away from someone faster than if they smelled bad. Sometimes their scent was literally unbearable. It was at a computer store too and this was a common occurrence there.
violent_hippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
However, try not to wash your hair every day. Skip a day in between every washing. Your hair won't balance the oils and it will become dry and frizzy on some days and overly oily on others.
GetOnMyLovell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, there are people who don't do this every day? Dafuq?
princesspeach_OG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. If a person smells good I am 10x more attracted to them.
TehMadness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Swear I read somewhere that a shower every day makes things worse. A bit like the hair washing thing.
slingmustard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you really need to take a shower every day, though? A person can keep themselves clean and present themselves as such without dumping gallons of water down the drain every day. The opposite extreme is someone like my brother who seems to never shower and walks around in a perpetual cloud of stink-like Pigpen. I think every other day is a completely viable alternative.
devatrox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every two days is enough.
Woyaboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, unless you actively sweat or have a job that gets you really dirty, you're not supposed to wash everyday.
The_LionTurtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't bother with a full shower every day, you can easily get away with an "essentials" shower inbetween. Face, pits, crotch, ass - done. Saves water and you won't dry out your skin as easily.
stuffandmorestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ALTHOUGH...You do not have to wash your hair every day (or actually even your body). You're hair and body builds up natural, effective oils to keep your self clean and smelling okay. I'll wash my body with soap every other day or two, and just hot water and a washcloth otherwise. I'll wash my hair maybe once a week. It takes a week or two for your hair to get used to taking care of it's self, but it'll look a lot better soon and it'll take way less maintenance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Showering everyday is bad for your skin.
CelastrinaNeglecta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That said, it's better for your hair if you don't shampoo it everyday. It may start off getting oily really fast, but if you fall into a routine, it will produce less oil. Your hair will be healthier for longer in life.
Envy121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's more important is actually changing your clothes every day. You can get away with the occasional no shower day, but the same clothes...don't do it.
Synux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being clean and smelling good are important but be careful with the overuse of shower soap. Suds up the pits and the bits always but the rest is pretty good with a rinse and maybe a little loofah. The idea is that you don't want to scrape off what your body needs only to then rub in some lotion to synthesize the stuff you just deleted.
Murgman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on the person. If I shower everyday my skin gets dry and irritated.
LachsFilet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shower everyday but dont wash your hair everyday. do it every 3, 4 days at least, maybe less often depending on your hair/scalp
Shortbreadis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That only matters till you're married.
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also - brush twice a day, and floss at least once.
Bad oral hygiene is a MASSIVE turn-off for almost everyone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Momma always told me that the best cologne on a young man is freshly laundered clothes.
MissBubbleButt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking a shower EVERY DAY is pretty bad for your hair and skin, it sloughs off the natural oils.
Zapsie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a bonus, always wear deodorant/antiperspirant in your armpits (and your legpits if you're feeling classy) and never wear clothes multiple days in a row without washing them. Not even jeans, and especially not underwear or socks.
Erinnerungen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smelling nice isn't about wearing aftershave or perfume. It's about being healthy. I don't often encounter people who put aftershave or perfume over sweat, but it's revolting.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:01 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
every other day unless it's absolutely necessary*?
Taking showers every day is supposedly very damaging.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:06:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be in the top 5 tips. I've met quite a few people who think it's ok to skip washing for a day or more.
They do it because of dry skin or something similar, but a much more reasonable approach is to shower and scrub every day with water and just skip the harsh cleaning agents.
P.S. I would guess this seems pretty radical to some people, but scrubbing with water alone is 100% better than skipping a day of washing.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was hanging out with some friends and the topic of showering came up and I was like the only one that consistently showered every day. That's just weird to me, I hate feeling gross after a couple days of No hygiene.
KMFDM781 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to skip a day and I just can't...I feel like I'm swimming in bacteria and my own sauce in the morning...I have to smell and feel fresh.
kccogirl ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 20:58:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let your problems define who you are.
I know a few people who have nothing to talk about expect for their bipolar depression, or their failed relationships, or how they have no friends, etc etc.
You shouldn't ignore these things, or pretend they don't effect you, but those are the sorts of things that people who are close to you get to know. Don't bring them up in casual conversation or a first date.
ciscommander ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:42:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kccogirl is on point. I might even say that if said issues are something you want to resolve; depending on what they are maybe counseling? As some of my closest friends have told me, you need to be able to be happy while being single if you want to be in a healthy relationship. It has taken me some time and thinking to understand that this does not mean flipping some sort of switch and going "oh ok I'll be happy with what I got e.t.c." Events will happen which will make you unhappy and possibly for a while. I have gone through phases like this when recent events made me extremely unhappy. I did go for counseling for a little and stopped but I plan on going again. Of course I'm just speaking from experience.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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kccogirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course the people closest to you will know, and if you are going to be in a serious relationship with someone they'll need to know about any medical/mental health issues you have, but that's the stuff you talk about after you're close with someone.
When you're getting to know people, that is your chance to show the best/most interesting things about yourself.
I highly doubt that any problems you have in your life are the only interesting things about yourself. If you feel that way, first seek some help via counseling and second work on developing your skills and hobbies. Develop things that you are more proud to talk about than your problems.
EnkiiMuto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome.
Bazatron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who are these people you talk to about not having friends?
kccogirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One guy is named John. And there's Maggie. Oh and Tom.
Bazatron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:25 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And they complain about not having friends all the time? Think I know their first mistake.
AnchovieProton ยท 826 points ยท Posted at 14:16:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand next to Steven Tyler.
Agile_Tit_Tyrant ยท 334 points ยท Posted at 16:16:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting chummy with future father in law, gotcha.
lolzersauce ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 19:00:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
World's most optimistic man right here.
Ashendarei ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:47:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey someone above said to fake confidence till you didn't need to anymore, maybe he's just getting a head start ;)
ferlessleedr ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:58:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Okay but standing next to Live Tyler is like being on camera - you gain ten pounds, bags appear under your eyes, and you just look generally sad.
Edit: aware of it, leaving it. Better this way.
onedoor ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:46:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, for comparison you want to be next to Dead Tyler. You'll look much better.
ferlessleedr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was what they mentioned above, I think. He does look like a corpse, after all.
onedoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was more about being associated with a celebrity. But I could see both sides.
Hellknightx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:52:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Impress him with your knowledge of Elvish lore.
atchman25 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:12:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Liv Tyler is Steven Tyler's daughter. Figured it was just the same name.
ZombieBarney ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But they are so alike! They both have a pulse...(for now)
starfirex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you hang out with Steve long enough, Liv's bound to show up eventually.
molybedenum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if your mom is dead?
jswan28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell your girlfriend Mia I say hi
Dalroc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:15:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what? I thought Steven Tyler was an old woman?
say_or_do ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand next to Iggy Pop without his shirt on. -FTFY
Envoken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm http://i.imgur.com/HzxYJyQ.jpg
Comfyy_WOWS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ. I just googled him and he looks like Johnny Depp on meth.
sweezinator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He kinda reminds me of caitlyn jenner
Freecandyhere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking to my husband about how ugly he is and how his daughter is so pretty. He said he hasn't noticed he was ugly!?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't put my finger on it but that dude attracts 20 something models a whole lot more than me.
8696David ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spell it with me now... "M... O... N... E... Y"
chadderbox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might be better looking, but he will likely still attract more women than most guys on the planet, even in his 70s.
evolutionape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand next to Steven Tyler's toes... http://imgur.com/IAKkfFs
mkameli ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 22:26:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't exactly simple, but it's the most important: identify and confront your big personal flaws or shortcomings.
For me, it was realizing and accepting I had an anxiety problem, and so I bit the bullet and spent a year working with a counselor on that, and it changed my life.
At the same time, I stopped thinking so much about why I wasn't seeming to be attractive to women, and focused instead on trying to live really fully and openly: I trained for and ran a marathon (had a lot of time on my hands), read a bunch, went to lots of concerts, and got over my fear of rejection by going on a lot of first dates. Nobody who's emotionally healthy will want to be a solution to your loneliness problem โย they'll be a person with a full, vibrant life who sees you as someone who also has a full, vibrant life that's worth sharing.
EnkiiMuto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:12:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be upvoted more.
Perfect_Orgsm ยท 4907 points ยท Posted at 14:29:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use the darkness, stay in the shadows, wear a hoodie.
lackofagoodname ยท 3102 points ยท Posted at 17:51:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Girls like persistence too, so be sure to follow them home from the bar.
If they start screaming and running, that's just them testing your dedication to winning them over, run with them.
Maybe let out a growl that gradually increases in volume too, to give off that alpha vibe
Always works, I promise*
*There's a 100% success rate as long as you consent
sword4raven ยท 218 points ยท Posted at 19:34:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Denko wait for me! (ยด๏ฝฅฯ๏ฝฅ`)
MorePunsRequired ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:58:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that was a rollercoaster and a half
RealSourLemonade ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:02:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to get off this wild ride.
de4th_metalist ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:16:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamn hamster face.
twinkypinkie ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:42:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And here I was thinking that this little internet gem had died years ago
Mr_Nexxus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:16:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, you beat me to it
TheTweets ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:10:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For a while that face began to scare me.
In the fifth thread, it made me feel pity.
Now, I feel like it was all a book and its left the niggling feeling of incompleteness.
What happened to the guy? Did the Shining Wizard addle his brain farther? Did A-ko ever tell him that he could have found any other hooker for a lower price, b that because she knew him she hiked the price? Did Denko ever marry his brother?
So many questions.
myrden ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:24:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As funny as that is it's still pretty creepy in its own way.
zapperknacks-no1-fan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:05:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus...
sudofox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:09:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I skimmed over that just now and it's fairly horrifying E-E
TNUGS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's worth the full read
greenebola ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not this again
TheUltimateTeigu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah. That was intense. Oh boy.
DatTomahawk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a ride
nman68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is 2ch and what is a vgperson?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:51 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, that guy is a true yandere.
Perfect_Orgsm ยท 888 points ยท Posted at 18:06:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy fucks!
MonsieurMonkey ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 18:24:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think we should be concerned.
GringodelRio ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:52:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, no. He fucks...
in prison.
So is ok!
MonsieurMonkey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:15:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So who's dialling 911?
tweeblethescientist ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:24:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll go ahead and send 600 emails. No need to call.
MightyButtonMasher ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:46:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(ยด๏ฝฅฯ๏ฝฅ`)
h-v-smacker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:35:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid fucking hamster face...
ChildishForLife ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I have been known to fuck myself.
Astaroth1234 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:41:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wether they want to or not
FullDeadThrwee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Children.
Daerdemandt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
literally whoever he wants.
creative_name_here_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With ducks?
not_turd_ferguson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never gets old. Never.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:55:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so much rape culture
dandan2222 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:30:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women HATE him!
EmperorKira ยท 420 points ยท Posted at 18:36:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if rapist or hyper dog...
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:54:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not both?
duthduth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:51:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Way to deliberate for a hyper dog
Gumgrapes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it's best to practice on vulnerable women, but I'm sure that with enough practice you can chase rapists too! Not sure about dogs though...
GeneralDelgado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
with a bionic dick?
desacralize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure this is a common mating ritual among werewolves.
Wolfzbane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those overlap more frequently than they should.
SirSplodingSpud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rapists don't wear hoodies.
_felix_felicis_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nope Kylo Ren.
colber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither. It's an absolute savage that gets loads of ass from girls because he's clearly persistent
A_Shaq_On_Titan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...hyper racist dog..?
Man_Breath ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:56:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The running is more about testing stamina than dedication, I think. Girls love a man with good stamina.
Carocrazy132 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:37:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So that ladies will understand why guys seem so weird...
This is 99% of self-help for guys in the area of attracting girls.
"Be a dick, she'll love it"
No she won't. Stop telling everyone that.
FailedTech ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got to pass those shit tests!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(ยดใปฯใป`)
adtr007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are just testing your cardio and seeing if you hit the gym regularly.
EverythingsTemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wolololololol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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folderol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Get away from me you fucking pervert!!"
Well, that was a heck of a shit test. Not shook at all.
michaeltheobnoxious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss Denko
jd_coud9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it ain't over till restrainin' order!
mrc96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh the D.E.N.N.I.S System
ThrashingBlumpkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
50 percent of the time, it works every time.
Shortbreadis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rapey vibe
tomparker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Conversation starter: "Hi. Does this smell like chloroform to you?"
kur1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(ยดใปฯใป`)
Brooney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/ShittyLifeProTips
Askifiusereddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you ever think guys try this because they don't understand sarcasm?
mr_grass_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:02 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you piss on them to assure dominance
wggn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
60% of the time, it works everytime
mike_the_milkman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, it's funny that you say this, because I was recently robbed of the woman of my dreams because her ex planted gps tracking software on her phone and constantly called her and followed her when she left her house. This happened more than a few times when we went out together. She said we couldn't see each other because, and i quote, "He must really care about me if he's being this persistent." Great way to ring in the new year, 11/10 would recommend.
lackofagoodname ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:26:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The positive thing about that is that you probably don't want a girl who will take a guy back that does that.
Sucks I know, but sounds like you either dodged a bullet or she was trying to find an excuse to break up anyways
lizard_king_rebirth ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:10:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the white guy.
Just kidding, I know it's all white guys on here.
corsair238 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm: am just shy of pasty white
mytwin_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:31:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gee Dad, are you sure I'm gonna impress da ladies like this?
That's what i used on your mother.
Where is mom, by the way?
She killed herself because she didn't wanna be the mother of a creepy kid.
Really? My wordโฆ
Nah, I'm fucking with you.
Oh, whew.
I killed her.
TheFuzzyPickler ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:35:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You think the darkness is your ally?
voncakes1987 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:32:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay away from garlic and crosses
MANCREEP ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:31:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its like you've read my diary.
TopazRoom ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:58:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
arms extended back when you run too
JohnIsShort ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:35:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't do this if you're black
Docter_Dank ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the emo!
Antrikshy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://twitter.com/KyloR3n
Cloudy_mood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:13:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I was invisible-how did she see me?!?
HavanaDays ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But don't buy skittles then it will only be Half hispanic half white guys that are into you and they don't tend to follow directions well.
ganfy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:44:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda like Dave's technique. Look lonely, kinda depressed, and really thoughtful. It's hasn't worked for me yet, but I'm still trying.
Firewolf420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Given enough time, it is impossible to not succeed. It's like... a law of nature or something dude
TheStradivarius ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:40:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You merely adopted the darkness!
DiarrheaMarinade ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:16:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Justice for Trayvon!
Ardgarius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:13:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can't flim flam the zim zam
Lost_In_November ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the tip, Rick Owens.
The_Alpacapocalypse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Belichick: Sexiest Man Alive.
supertrink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now this is some advice I can see myself following.
user_account_deleted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trayvon nooooo!
lookatmuhbeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, the Trevon method.
i_h8_spiders2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that worked out well for the last kid that did that.
Forlurn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like advice Moe Szyslak would give
fancy-free ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Forgive me. I feel it againโฆ the call from light. Supreme Leader senses it. Show me again. The power of the darkness, and nothing will stand in our way. Show me, grandfather, and I will finish what you started.
folderol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sup. Will you join us in holly matrignomey?
thermal_shock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of night games
metalhead1999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
best tip in this thread tbh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Directions unclear. Murdered over skittles.
azizinator25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is your name Todd?
nickgenova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That didn't work for Trayvon Martin..
DemonCipher13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay your blade from the innocent.
Illogical1612 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay your blade from the flesh of an innocent.
Hide in plain sight.
Never compromise the Brotherhood.
choadsauce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this in Gandalf's voice.
sudynim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but then you can't have kids using The Darkness) (well you could, you'd just die.)
MikodaLikesBatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He said more attractive not more like Elliot Alderson...
iamthejustice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ezio?
Heyitshogan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Follow the Assassin's Creed!
lardo1800 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend and I did that today and almost got shot (true story).
gmespitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like trayvon?
RelaxedAnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the rapist.
TwoDSoldier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That might work...
For you
MotherEfferInCharge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trayvon martin would disagree.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now get a lightsaber.
EnkiiMuto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We work in the dark... to serve the light.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're black. In the US, you might get shot.
the13bangbang ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:41:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a very good method. It is also appropriate to have cat vomit in your pocket and to rub dog feces your body to show that you are an animal lover.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:18:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and look what that did for Treyvon.
Too soon? Too soon?
Cold_Hard_FaceValue ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:31:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Laughed out loud,
Solid 9/10, something to be envied in your hoodie ending
[deleted] ยท 1207 points ยท Posted at 17:52:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight.
Smile.
Brush your goddamn teeth.
Take a goddamning shower.
Wear some deodorant. This does not mean shower yourself in perfume. I'm looking at you, Axe holes.
TheSmashPosterGuy ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 18:28:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do those 5 things. What's the next level?
trubbsgubbs ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 18:55:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently learning to put on the right amount of Axe.
ajtaz55 ยท 307 points ยท Posted at 19:02:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None?
trubbsgubbs ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:48:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, fair enough.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:14:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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theVice ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:41:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dark temptation.
Daerdemandt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:58:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moose.
Bandin03 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:52:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Phoenix.
Ehnto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do, but it's like a fedora. The hat hasn't changed, but the social implications have.
If you care about that kind of thing, there are some not overused scents available.
brianatwork_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:09:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you could buy a nice cologne.
trubbsgubbs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:48:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't know how I can justify spending a lot of money on cologne without having the ability to try different kinds, see what I like. But yeah, no doubt cologne > Axe.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:41:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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trubbsgubbs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:38:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is awesome, I expect to see scentless shampoos and deodorants in my future! I just got a small 1ml of Green Irish Tweed by Creed from DecantShop. So I will start there and see where I can branch to find something I like.
Jesusvilla12345 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:39:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was the scent? Patchouli ?
Stevey854 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Free samples? And a bottle of cologne outlasts a can of axe (lynx for me) by an order of magnitude.
trubbsgubbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is good to know actually, heh
Pacostaco123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have always found cologne to be too powerful and overbearing. I usually use aftershave. Aqua Velva or Clubman.
NikoTesla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no right amount of Axe.
ErlendJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit I got a large can of Axe for christmas.. what should I do??
SwimmingSandwich ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:05:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make a flamethrower
trubbsgubbs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a lighter and do the flamethrower thing?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
bryguypgh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:54:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a book, read a book, read a god damn book. Not the sports page, not a magazine, but a book.
mofomeat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:31 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a book, read a book, read a muh-fuggin book.
Kingsley7zissou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have travel version's of those things in your car and office in case shit hit's the fan. Baby wipes, mouthwash, tooth brush, deodorant. If you keep smelling something throughout the day it is probably you. I heard about artificial saliva recently, use it like Visine if you have dry mouth day or night.
SemSevFor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:18:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I'm still unattractive as shit
CoolMachine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tidiness and flossing.
TheSmashPosterGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh....yeah maybe I should do those more.
CoolMachine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had to start keeping floss in my car and in my night table because I almost never remember right after I brush. Eh, better than nothing.
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
???
Profit
Maximusplatypus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out
TheSmashPosterGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
believe it or not I've got that down. Got back from the gym 40 minutes ago. What's on dat next level doe?
_asfuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress nice.
Xwolfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shea241 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop making your eyes really big to compensate for being tired. It just looks scary.
TheSmashPosterGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha i've never heard of that
figgen ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:32:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And read a book.
BFlocka ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:13:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
R-E-A-D A B-O-OK!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knowledge
ThisUsernameIs20ltrs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:05:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just here in my garage with my Lamborghini
Dethreo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:52:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
47 Lamborghinis?
lastshotiguess ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:48:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see these things a lot in threads like this. Is this really a struggle for a lot of people? Don't get me wrong it's good advice but damn it seems like common sense to me.
the_argonath ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:22:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am currently at work (a game store) and wish i could close so i don't have to smell these guys anymore.
flyawayjay ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:12:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard "Axe holes" before and it amuses me. I'm going to start using that.
thegreattrun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:10:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Switch to Old Spice.
BZLuck ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:34:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perfume and cologne should be discovered not broadcasted.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget that cologne & perfume aren't the only things that contain perfume. If you're putting perfume on after your scented shampoo, conditioner, soap, lotion, and deodorant, you won't smell clean. You'll smell like a baby prostitute.
Edit: speeling
NavajoWarrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then masturbate.
thepikey7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I keep seeing brush your teeth and floss on here... Do people not do these?
Cloudy_mood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yo, what's up bra?
General__Obvious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do some people really not wear deodorant every day? As soon as I get out of the shower every morning, I put on deodorant.
NotADemon_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AXE AXES.
IIIIIIIlllllllIIIIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agh, the ol' Mexican Shower technique..
misswynter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just saying the fragrance Kilo from Axe is still a pretty damn amazing scent. My SO wears it and I pounce when I can.
Cgdb10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To follow up on this, Axe is not cologne. If you want a scent, I highly recommend anything by Original Penguin, but especially Nightcap.
spqrnbb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamning? But I don't want to cast a deity into the pits of hell.
sheafers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lynx holes here in Britain
ItsJustReeses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's an amazing way of putting it. What do you reccomend how much you should use? Just a spray on the chest? (I do armpits because they can smell about 6 hours into work if I don't)
Vetches1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Know any good deodorant that isn't Axe? Been trying to find a totally not expensive one and have failed thus far.
unchainedzulu33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile - even at nothing.
thesneakingninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
These guys? What's wrong with them?
Nutritionisawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called speed stick. It's not expensive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And floss!
Calypse27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Covers about all that, and most importantly, READ A BOOK!
Detfinato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gettin real sick of the constant hate on Axe.
Chances are.. we're mostly adults here. We know how to apply a reasonable amount of spray-on deodorant. This isn't middle school and we're not inflating our tshirts with a cloud of Axe every time we go to our lockers. The stuff smells good when using as directed.
You can get body wash, traditional stick deodorant / antiperspirant, and spray on (which is a fine replacement for expensive cologne) all in the same fragrance so you don't smell like walking by the perfume counter at Macy's, and it can be found in just about any grocery, drug, or megamart store there is.
Stop perpetuating Axe as the Nickelback of men's care products. Sure, their naming schemes are laughable.. and we've all had experiences with douchebags that love them too much.. but get over it already! There's much worse out there to categorically hate on.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the Axe rep.
Detfinato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do they get free Axe? Sign me up. "Excite" flavor please.
IAmTheScarBrother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if my teeth look like i ran in to a brick wall and im too poor for braces?
HerraIAJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would recommend brushing teeth before smiling, please don't ruin any lives here mister yatter.
c_dawg7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use Lynx Dry (the UK version of Axe). Yes, it has teenage connotations but it is seriously the best anti-perspirant I've been able to find and I'm a sweaty guy. I don't need to use much and always use a small amount of aftershave so I smell of that when people get close enough to smell it.
lambda26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to smell nice. Buy a body wash and wash everywhere especially under your arm pits. Wear an antiperspirant(not just deodorant, looking for the sporting stuff ) in your arm pits. Then on casual/sweaty days wear your body spray(axe) apply >1 second of spray under each arm and chest and back. For formal or try hard days use a cologne. One spritz on neck and one on chest. Brush your teeth and use mouth wash. Keep gum in your car or pocket for after smelly meals. Do this everyday you don't know how bad you smell so don't rely on that.
CuteThingsAndLove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Axe holes are the worst, especially in middle school when my immune system was still so fragile. I believed I had an allergic reaction because every time I smelled it suddenly I couldn't breathe anymore.
DeathbyHappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually like the Axe brand deoderant (the wipe on, not the spray). It works better for me than a lot of other things I've tried.
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:26:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Axe deodorant is actually pretty fuckin good.
nukeyocouch ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:18:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its just as bad when girls fucking douse themselves in that shit. It I'm standing next to you and can smell you, fine. If I'm a cubicle over and can smell you, well, you need to go unfuck yourself
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And floss too! There is nothing worse than meeting a cutie and getting close to them, only to discover that their mouth smells like rotting turds with black shit in between their teeth.
rdmusic16 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love my mini bottle of axe though.
I don't use it as a normal deodorant, but use it for "oh my god, I just finished a lot day of work but my feet smell horrible and I don't have extra socks" type of situations.
It's great for those sorts of emergencies.
anarchyz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no
rdmusic16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No?
FunkSlice ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:00:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You seem unnecessarily pissed off.
thundertool ยท 210 points ยท Posted at 18:59:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get yourself a toothpick, a leather jacket and some aviators. Slick your hair back with some shiny shit and get a muscle car.
WrennAmethyst ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 21:56:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're getting into having money now, which is actually the real answer.
B4nK5y ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:53:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and pause for half a minute before saying anything
shiivan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking hate it when people do that. I mean sure, it's fine sometimes but if you paus all the fucking time it's just too much
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:43:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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XheadJr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:36:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't give a shit about confidence if I could afford a muscle car.
Tylensus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:01:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can do the rest, but I'm gonna need a rich redditor to buy me a 1969 Camaro. Don't all jump up at once! :D
KornymthaFR ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:22:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm ready!
Tylensus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:51:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To buy my Camaro?! Way to be a bro! :D
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:51:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a gun, keep the safety off at all times. And tell annoying people to fuck off, cuz you got work to do.
genericguysname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought greasers are extinct.
thundertool ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:34:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never!
TownieMesiah ยท 3442 points ยท Posted at 14:28:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Buy clothes that fit well; as rule of thumb just a little slimmer than you think you need is usually just right.
Work on walking without looking at the ground, shoulders slightly back and slightly down.
General hygiene. Pay attention to your hair, use a repairing lotion on your skin / face, wear something that smells good without needing a reason, brush your teeth.
Make eye contact with people talking to you
In the spirit of New Years, it also wouldn't be terrible to pick up a gym membership and check out your meal portions on occasion.
To expand on the last point and for anybody who recently picked up a gym membership as part of a resolution here are some tips on making your time commitment effective.
Stop considering it a resolution and start considering it just how you live now. Fitness never really stops, diets never really stop. It's about changing who you are rather than "trying something out". To that end you should ease yourself into whatever you do. Don't suddenly go from 3,000 cal/day to 1400 cal/day because some website told you. Drop down 250 cal/day each week (wk1 - 2750 cal/day, wk2 - 2500 cal/day, ect.) from whatever you eat now into something more appropriate and you won't feel like you're sapped of your mortal energy.
On the topic of food, there's a common phrase "You'll never outrun your calories" that's absolutely true. The only way to lose weight is to take in less calories than you use. Anybody who has ever used a treadmill for 20 minutes just to find it reports they've only burned 180 calories knows you'll never "run off that milkshake". The only real way to use more than you eat is to eat less. Drink LOTS of water, eat calorie efficient foods (see: veggies), and avoid calorie dense things like butter, 2% / Whole milk, certain types of bread, pasta (there seems to be some confusion here. I'm not saying your diet itself is to avoid those foods. I'm saying those foods will use up a lot of your calorie budget without making you feel full / satisfied at the end of the day. They are absolutely fine to eat, you just may find it difficult to stay within' budget). Trust me, diets only suck for the first week until your stomach contracts to suit your new intake. You'll stop being hungry, and it'll make you feel good.
The gym by and large is for building muscle / structure (edit: changed from "toning" which is to ambiguous), not losing weight. When coupled with a diet it can be insanely effective but it should never feel like a "job" or "chore". Pick a certain time of day, pick certain days of the week, and do them like clockwork. You'll find it much much easier to fall into a schedule than you will to sporadically go when it's convenient. Make the gym a kind of club you attend. Make friends there, be a regular, chat it up with the girl at the check in counter, be courteous. Be the kind of person you'd want to meet at the gym.
Weigh yourself at regular intervals (edit: previously said everyday but that's more what works for me and not always good advice for everybody), and track that shit no matter how ugly it might get. You need to see the positives, and you need to see the negatives. You need something to look back on to recognize patterns in your habits. I'd suggest either MyFitnessPal or LoseIt!
MOST IMPORTANTLY you're there for nobody other than yourself. It doesn't matter what weight the guy 2 benches down is putting up, you don't know his story and couldn't possibly compare your experiences. All that matters is you, where you started, and where you are now. Nobody but you looks at that scale every morning, nobody but you plans out your meals, and nobody but you feels the benefits of your actions. You deserve it, you've got a stud / babe inside you waiting to get out, and nobody but you can carve that marble.
Edit - Helping others and offering advice is one of my true passions in life. I love seeing people happy with themselves and feeling the excitement inherent to making progress. I've long since had to stop responding to comments in this thread, but if you want advice, or simply to shoot the shit about a healthy lifestyle please don't hesitate to PM me. Have a great start to your 2016 everybody!
[deleted] ยท 780 points ยท Posted at 14:42:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
to add a little to that
smile
treat people well (like you'd like to be treated as well)
if you don't have time or money for the gym, try to daily or at least weekly do a little excercise. push ups, jumping jacks, lifting a 1L bottle of water in each hand (equals 1kilogram each) and taking a run al work wonderfull.
most important thing to see the results is to keep it up. keep it simple and it'll be easier to keep your commitment (try 12 pushups every second day for example)
[deleted] ยท 207 points ยท Posted at 17:53:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very true. I've been doing push ups every day for the past few months, usually when waking up and/or before going to bed. About 20-80 throughout the day.
It works, chest feels and looks better. All of that for less than 10 minutes a day, every day.
Consistency is key.
Natem0613 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:39:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something we did in my taekwondo studio was "50 push ups in 50 days"
Basically, you start off on day 1. You do one push up when you wake up, and 1 push up before you go to sleep. Then day 2, you do 2 when you wake up and 2 before you go to sleep. Then day 3 you do 3, and so on until day 50. Every day, you're only doing 1 more push up than the day before. If you have to split it up into increments of 10 or 12, that's ok. Just take a few seconds to catch your breath and shake out your arms, as long as you do all the push ups scheduled. 50 push ups is not as hard as it sounds, and doing them every day helps you get better and helps get exercise into your routine. After day 50, you keep doing push ups, and maybe other exercises too. I did a modified version of this, where I would do 2 sit ups for every push-up, so I ended the 50 days with 50 push ups and 100 sit ups. I really recommend this to anyone who wants to try exercising at home more
creynolds722 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:40:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh similar to what I'm doing now. I want to do 1000 push ups in January. I started with 18 on January 1st, 19 on the 2nd, 20 on the 3rd, etc. On January 31st I will do 48 for a cumulative total of 1023.
Current plan is if this goes well, continue on February 1st starting with 55(short month, boo) and I'll end up doing 83 on the 29th for a total of 2001 in February. 82-112 in March for 3007, 119-148 in April for 4005.
cdodgec04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like I have some catching up to do! But I'd love to join you on that! also reading some other comments, some people have said you should do a pulling exercise to counteract the push ups as well.
creynolds722 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes do it! I'm ramping up like this for a physical event I'm doing in May. I have a pull up bar that I haven't used much but am trying to get into it. It's a top of the door frame kind and it just feels wrong because I'm so tall.
Moter8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:59:07 on February 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not actually good though, you aren't progressing at all. Look at /r/bodyweightfitness for a good workout. Only doing way too many reps of pushups is NOT good.
creynolds722 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:57 on February 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me your ways Swole Bro God. Tell me what my goals are and tell me what to do to reach them, oh wise Bro
Moter8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:33:34 on February 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 4000 goal in April is just retarded, nothing else I gotta say.
creynolds722 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:18 on February 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good one bro, fuckin' rekt me mate
_thebat675 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:43:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Major ๐
droppern ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:51:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, only working your chest will lead to some problems down the road. Bad posture, danger of hurting yourself etc..
Turfie146 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:45:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You said it Johnny. Consistency is key.
Folks can spend anywhere from $130-300 on a fitbit or buy a bunch of apps for their iphone that remind them to work out but that's bullshit.
Commitment and the motivation are the two most important elements to making fitness progress.
You want a fitness tracker? Get a binder and some looseleaf at the dollar store. If you pay with a fiver, you'll still have enough left for a coffee.
The most important thing is to put the effort in and you'll find that the more you do, the more you'll feel like doing.
Moozilbee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:39:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And as everyone likes to say every time motivation is mentioned: Motivation is good, but it comes and goes, whereas discipline is always there. You might feel motivated to do something one day, but not the next, whereas if you're disciplined then you'll do it each day regardless of how you feel on that particular day.
Turfie146 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Point taken and truth be told, just like motivation and commitment, you can't buy discipline either. If you buy gimmicks in hopes of them making you work out, is itself an exercise, in futility.
jblv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.wisdomination.com/screw-motivation-what-you-need-is-discipline/
StrungoutScott ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:38:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I've been in a pretty strict workout routine for around 6 months now, and i just got a fitbit for Christmas. I like this little bastard. It may be uncool, but i really like the heart rate monitoring during my workouts, it actually pushes me to go harder.
Forte_Astro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just make sure to strengthen your back muscles. Your posture will go to ruins with a muscular imbalance.
Worthyness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to get this going for me too. My day job has me at a desk all the time, so I've been doing flutter kicking while I'm sitting just to stay active. Gonna try working in a few push ups after I get put of bed.
Hopefully the weather changes soon. Rain kinda sucks for biking.
watrasei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How long did it took you to see results ? I've been trying it some month ago, along with eating better (no more soda, less fat etc.) and i've not been able to keep up for more than a month because i've seen abolutely no result and it was just awful to see that
riceboyxp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
major KEY
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm legit confused AF, two replies saying the same thing.
Baka-san ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DJ Khaled, he likes to give advice on major keys to success.
Willifer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:59:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From Wikipedia. The definition has changed a bit, but I had no clue, what a day.
Bergiful ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this is news to me too. The metric system just makes way too much sense. I'll keep my nonsense imperial system, thank you!
LiggyRide ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:31:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100 pushups
100 situps
100 squats
and a 10km run
After a year and a half, you'll go bald, and then you know it's working.
At first it'll be hell, but make sure to never skip a day.
Also, no A/C in summer, or heating in winter.
Twigsnapper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got that reference
Gimmick_Man ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/bodyweightfitness
ROLLNSONG ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wondering why you're the first person to mention smiling so far. Smiling is the number one most attractive thing to me and virtually everyone close to me.
wannabegenius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THIS. obviously a gym membership is a great thing to have but ANYTHING COUNTS. pushups and situps are free. don't do nothing.
solzhen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also plenty of meetup groups doing free, fun activities like running, hiking, yoga, et al.
Civilized_Hooligan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Investing in a $20 door frame pull-up/chin up/hammer bar will work your arms and back more effectively than curling 1kg weights daily but totally agree with the rest.
3PNK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or don't smile, when I smile I look like I'm missing a missing chromosome, but I look just fine with a straight face.
nomad2585 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Codazoa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could do jumping jacks. Any jumping of any kind and I hear popping in my head and get a horrible headache. If I stand up I get light headed and almost pass out. And last time I did push ups I did 10 and I was sore for 3 days. Probably because I haven't worked out for 6 years.
triethan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat people the way they want to be treated
FTFY
Moore0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Treat people as you would like to be treated."... I'm a masochist. This just validats what I would like to do... But seriously treat other people like you would want you mother to be treated...
Jughead295 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you give that same advice to masochists?
thisis4reddit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally disagree. I want to be dominated in bed. I definitely am not going to dominate my partner if that's what I want. I mean, I'll do it if they ask but that's the point.
Treat others like they want to be treated.
bl0bfish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:53:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It only takes maybe an hour to get a good workout in. For example, if you do some kind of High Intensity workout you will need to warmup (Maybe 15 minutes) and then workout for probably another 8-20 minutes? Time is a good excuse for someone that doesn't want to put in the effort.
And arent most gym memberships like $10/mth for a anytime fitness 24/365 gym?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
time is a serious thing for most people. and it takes a lot of dedication to continue to spend a hour at the gym when you have other obligations each week.
Some people don't have the means of transportation to go to the gym.
Some places don't have gyms.
Some people hardly make ends meet each month.
And some people are embarrassed to go to the gym
The thing is, you want to make it (the training) a part of your life.
To get results you need te be dedicated.
To keep dedicated you have to keep it achievable. That means small goals and slowly building it up.
Keep it small, keep it simple and get routine. That's the key for starters.
To add, the basic exercises like push ups are still advised by most gyms/fitnesses and training schools and have been used even in ancient Rome.
fynx07 ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 17:38:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It took me several times of dieting to finally realize that. It made the first week of my new diet so much easier to bear. It's absolutely true. Mine usually happens after only about 3-4 days. I go from eating a whole plate of food at Applebee's to usually eating less than half of my meal from Wendy's.
Also, cut out the eating fast food as much as humanly possible. Even the smallest stupidest meal you can get is going to be loaded with wasteful calories. You can go home and (I'd highly recommend a George foreman grill) quickly and easily make yourself a much healthier, calorie efficient burger meal. Plus as you are patting out the burger, you can throw in all different kinds of sauces and seasonings to customize your burger and make it 1,000 times better than that micky D's. Grab some different spices from your grocery store and experiment. The spices are cheap for copious amounts and will make your diet much more bearable.
Edited to clarify cutting out eating fast food.
WanderingSpaceHopper ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:21:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like you've done this a few times already, what's causing you to go back to eating a whole plate of food? I honestly couldn't return to my previous habits at this point.
fynx07 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:24:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Weak willpower and people around me aren't helping. Everyone keeps saying "oh eat some more! Eat more there is still plenty left!" over and over until I eventually just give in, or if I accidentally miss a meal/snack (good way to keep your stomach shrinkage is eat small meals with small snacks in between. Keeps the stomach constantly fed with small amounts of food so it doesn't balloon up with bigger less frequent meals) and then I get hungry and scarf large amounts of food. Or drink one soda one day then start binging on them again. Soda is another huge empty calorie thing. Just cutting that out can have a huge impact on weight loss.
That and my wife is very self conscious so she tries to get me to eat more so she doesn't feel as bad about herself while she is pregnant. Once our daughter is born, my wife will end up back on dieting and working out and it'll be easier on us both. I'm 5'7 and 180 lbs, so I'm not skinny by any means, despite her constantly telling me I'm "too skinny".
WanderingSpaceHopper ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:36:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I had that at the start. People either encouraging me or teasing me to eat more; I snapped one time (might also have been a bit drunk) and told the girl teasing me, and I paraphrase, "shut your fat bitch mouth before I ram this plate down your throat". No one bothered me with stupid bullshit like that after that episode. Nowadays I just say "no, thank you" and smile when I don't want to eat something/anymore.
I also don't start hating myself or feeling guilty if I do slip up or just plain don't think about what I'm eating. Shit happens and I'll be ok in the long run; but that rarely happens nowadays. For example if the whole office is having pizza i'm not about to go all lame and refuse to eat because it's high calorie or whatever the fuck; I'll just chow down and have a good time and maybe offset it somehow in the following days.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:04:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope that is actually word for word.
WanderingSpaceHopper ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:05:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not, english isn't the spoken language here but it's pretty damn close. And by that I mean the translation would mean the exact same thing.
lunaragency ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:55:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What language is it, if you don't mind my asking?
WanderingSpaceHopper ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:10:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Romanian
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well, that counts, and it's damn amazing.
Endur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me, the diets are alway a temporary measure. The goal is to get to 11% or 10% bodyfat and then increase how much I eat to gain muscle mass. Usually I get a little too enthusiastic and diet again in 3-4 months
ferlessleedr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:56:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, replace snacks with water. Hits the oral fixation and helps fill the stomach a bit, plus is actually good for you and does not contribute to your caloric intake, plus actually increases metabolism.
fynx07 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:34:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely this too. Might make you pee every 20 minutes (it does me anyhow) but it makes a big difference you can feel.
ya27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find replacing snacks with hot tea works much better than water, especially in the winter. Still doesn't contribute to caloric intake, but it also gives the added motivation of interesting flavors and aromas.
ferlessleedr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Problematically, I am an American and the only way I know to make tea involves a harbor.
ya27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am an American too! I have to admit, part of the appeal is feeling like a proper British, Downton Abbey heiress while sipping it.
ferlessleedr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I'd rather pretend I'm a captain of industry, like Rockefeller or Carnegie or in the more modern sense, Bezos or Musk.
Only way I know to do that is to not sleep.
gsfgf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:41:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imo, there are far better ways to cook meat. Georgia Foremans just leave you with a dried out burger. Don't be afraid of fat just because it's fat; the amount of fat in lean beef is completely fine and makes the meat taste a lot better. Fat isn't what gets people; it's all the super calorie dense sugars and refined carbs.
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gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How well does it work for pressing sandwiches? I currently put the bread and cheese in the toaster oven to melt the cheese and ever so slightly (basically just warm) the bread and microwave the cold cuts for my sandwiches. I like the result, but I'm always looking for easier/better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm... I don't know if you saw my ninja edit with my current method. But I don't have a toaster oven at work. So I may try bring the GF so I can bring a pre-assembled sandwich and just cook it in the GF. So cooking spray is necessary but works fine? (Can't do butter or mayo on the diet)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
They still exist? The one near me went out of business more than ten years ago.
BilboSwagginz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as girlfriend and thought you were trying to make a joke but then the punchline never came. Then I figured out you were abbreviating George Foreman.
RakeattheGates ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:11:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, don't "diet." Make life changes you intend to stick with. Viwiing it as something temporary will make it exactly that. Find things you don't love and start working to cut them down/out of your diet. Do you really love pop? How about the junk food everyone leaves around the office all the time? Starting with these thinfs sill make it easier to stick with the changes and aill help you develop willpower to abstain from the harder stuff later.
ya27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, when I start focusing on my favorite foods that I am allowed to fit into my calorie limit instead of obsessing about what I can't have, calorie restriction becomes easier. I get up every morning with the mindset of, "Okay, I have a fresh set of calorie currency to spend today. What delicious foods am I going to choose to pay for today?"
It also removes guilt from the equation when you have junk food cravings, but find a way to fit them into your calorie goal.
RakeattheGates ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you've got the right mindset. Thanks for wading through my typi-riddled post (what happens when I'm on my phone) and good luck with your goals!
drunkencommander ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:11:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was good for me to read post-holiday gluttony. Currently going from being able to demolish three full plates of food plus one of dessert at a Mediterranean buffet to 2000kcal/day. Day 2 and I am hungry but everything will be back to normal soon...being back at work is a blessing for my daily calorie intake.
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you mate! Stick with it and don't let anyone get you down about it, especially not yourself.
Also, was super confused for a minute. I read 2000kCal instead of 2000kcal. Makes more sense when I pay attention to capitalization.
NESoteric ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God, that first week, that's the hurdle I need to overcome, I keep failing :/
I'm pretty excited that my current relationship has moved to the "Hanging out" phase, so we're spending more time at each other's places. It's allowed me more opportunities to cook and break us away from eating out together 3-4 nights a week. I've already started leaving several cooking utensils and pans at his place so I have more to work with, and he really appreciates it because home cooked food can, and will, taste better than any restaurant once you get it down. And hopefully help me lose some of this weight I've acquired recently.
fynx07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck! And remember, if you can make it the first day, you can make it the next day and after a few days, you won't even begin to feel hungry anymore. Also, try smaller meals with small snacks in between, don't starve yourself between meals!
NESoteric ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:52:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I've lost ~40lbs back in 2014, but gained back 15lbs over the last few months, I had a few rough months as my mother lost her battle with cancer, but my will power is recovering again, I kicked cigarettes for the 2nd time, and now just to get back to my 135lbs that I want to be :)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I can barely eat half of a small Wendy's chili, which is bad now because I need to eat more carbs since I've been diagnosed with T1D.
eazolan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:13:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't sound like a diet, that sounds like starving to death.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually feel really full after. My parents pretty much try anything to get carbs in.
eazolan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's 90 calories. That is not enough to live. You need help.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:49:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus a burger. Should've added that detail.
DefinitelyNotADemon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:04:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a very important detail
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see a lot of comments saying dieting sucks for that first week, but then your body gets used to it and everything is fine. I have a pretty bad fast food addiction and I've tried to quit several times. My last failed attempt I went 2 months eating healthy and constantly felt like I was going to break and go back to my poor eating habits.
Right now I'm three weeks into dieting again and the cravings are killing me. I seriously had a dream the other night that I was eating bottomless French fries.
ya27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As a fellow fast food addict, my advice would be to focus on your calorie count right now, rather than try to limit the type of food you eat.
I've been happy with my weight loss progress taking this route with the help of MyFitnessPal. For me, this has involved fast food several times a week, and not just salads. The key is that I never exceed my calorie limit. On heavy fast food days, I just make sure my other meal of the day is very light, and sometimes I have to forgo snacking. But I love certain fast food meals so much that it is worth it for me.
Letting yourself have whatever guilty cravings pop up (while first making sure you can still stay under the calorie limit if you eat it) is a much better way of losing weight for people like me who get these intense, obsessive cravings. Sometimes I even take a few bites, realize that my craving is already satisfied, and keep the rest as leftovers for a future craving.
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many Calories did you go from and how many are you eating now? Dropping too quick can make it hard, also, are you drinking lots of water and eating small snacks between meals?
Third, what kinds of foods are you eating? Some foods are low calorie but also don't fill you up for shit. Some foods like cheeses, chicken, peanut butter etc are a little higher in calories but fill you up a lot longer.
Alexanderbander ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only is eating out bad for your calorie budget, but also your monetary budget. So many people struggle with money and yet grab fast food every single day. It adds up so fast.
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really does. It may seem cheaper because you are only spending a few bucks at a time, but honestly, if you add up every time you go to fast food, versus how much you spend at the grocery for a week, I think most people would be shocked.
throw23me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what's wrong with me but I had the opposite experience when I started my diet. Before I started watching what I ate, I couldn't ever really finish a meal, especially eating out at a restaurant.
Now I just devour everything on my plate. I guess maybe my metabolism got better.
CancerousGrapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. Good logistical advice for getting healthier, but do you think you might be able to re-word the part where you say "Cut out the eating as much as humanly possible"? I know it's a small thing. But I recovered from a health binge turned eating disorder, and it's little stuff like that from people who seem healthy that sticks in a lot of readers' heads, and while most might not take it literally, some will. Maybe you could phrase it as "Don't eat little meals that you're not going to make dinner" or "don't waste a little bit of being hungry on a small meal when it's unnecessary or when you can make something better and more filling yourself." I know it's a small change, but I just think it's important to make sure that instructions for getting fit - even if they don't feel like instructions, they are - be kind and unexagerated.
That's all.
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually "cut out the eating out as much as possible" but I can see how that can be misinterpreted. Sorry about that. I will try to reword it to be less confusing :)
CancerousGrapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! :-)
fynx07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure thing
MathCrank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Specialty Asian markets and Indian markets have spices even cheaper!
Clipsterman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also go with my way of dieting which is being too lazy to get up and get food. Not sure how healthy it is, but over the last 5-6 years, I've lost weight. I'm 19 by the way.
petit_cochon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, the problem is that people view dieting as something you have to "get through." It's not. It's a lifestyle change, and you're so correct to say that learning to cook even a little will make a big impact. Even learning how to dress a basic salad can take you far: good olive or sesame oil, good vinegar, sea salt, fresh pepper, spices if you want. And when you cook, you control your portions, how much salt or butter goes into it. That's HUGE when you're trying to lose weight.
When I worked my first desk job, most of my co-workers were obese. I gained weight too, at first, but I realized I was eating from boredom and because snacks were always available. People would sit next to me and eat movie-theater boxes of candy every day! I began bringing in salads, carrots and hummus, boiled eggs, avocados - easy, healthy stuff that makes you feel full. But all around me, people told me "oh, you just have a thin body." Bulllllshit! I'm coke-bottle shaped, always have been, and I gain weight easily. I also love to cook, I love to grill and bake bread, love good wine and chocolate and bourbon. So I balance. That's all a diet needs to be: balancing health and pleasure.
I don't mean to sound like a self-congratulatory asshole. I definitely struggle to keep my weight down, especially during winter. There are days when I can and do eat an entire loaf of rosemary bread straight from the oven, drowned in olive oil. But if you can embrace eating healthier, exercising moderately, and stop craving really unhealthy food, it's not that hard. It's often a pleasure. Except for kale. FUCK KALE. Red cabbage should have been kale. Red cabbage is wonderful. Fuck kale.
People need to also stop fad dieting. Y'all know that shit won't work. There's no one reason people are fat. It's lots of cumulative stuff: not exercising, eating out, eating too much sugar, eating too much meat. Go to a thrift store and check out the cookbook section. It's all former fad diets. Go to the electronics section. It's all juicers now that the trend is over. Seriously.
QQRequiem ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 19:11:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, do Americans really think that healthy eating means smaller quantities of garbage?
fynx07 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:30:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you stop reading immediately after that sentence. Literally the next thing I said in the next paragraph is cut the eating out, I.e. Fast food as much as possible. Don't be an anti-america dickhead, there isn't any need for it.
drakeg4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, America is the only country with fast food. You do realize fast food is still food, right? The most you'll get from eating too much is high sodium and saturated fats. The first is fixed by drinking more water and the next is fixed by eating smaller portions.
QQRequiem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:27 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok dude. You keep eating garbage and I'll keep eating my whole food, plant based diet. We'll see who dies first. And when you do die I, for one, will be delighted. Absolutely delighted.
drakeg4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:25 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awwww, poor wittle guy doesn't like that I eat meat. T.T
QQRequiem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:05 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I eat meat, but my diet is heavily based on plants.
drakeg4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:23 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get so mad then.
LetsHarmonize ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 16:59:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I love slim fit clothing on me. How do I do this with men's shirts? For reference, I'm 5'4 and a half and rather scrawny at 115-120 lbs (been a while since I weighed, just guessing). My waist is about 27. I love my figure, and don't plan on changing it much; it's the clothes that are the problem.
I find it difficult to shop because the men's section is usually too big. Not just in length and width, but I can wrap the sleeves around my arm like twice. Kids' stuff fits better but sometimes its too small. I'm generally happier with the kids' clothes I buy though. I own two women's shirts that I think fit me well, too.
Edit: So many suggestions. I don't have that much money! I'll build up slowly. Thanks everyone!
TownieMesiah ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 17:09:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It can be difficult sometimes to find far end of the spectrum "slim" fits like this. One thing I think a lot of people overlook is that tailors do their job very well, and often will only charge $5-$10 per article of clothing which includes getting your measurements. You could do some research regarding a tailor in your area.
Another suggestion I'd make is to look towards certain "collections" of clothes known to cater to thinner builds. For instance for dress clothes J. Ferrar has very thin shirts. I myself wear their 15.5 medium slim collection shirt and it's snug in all the right places while having appropriately long sleeves and torso. I think at least one cheap outlet for J. Ferrar is JCPenny which I find usually has great sales.
Straight up though I wouldn't feel a goddamn shred of embarrassment over wearing kids or women's clothes if that's what fit well though. The problem you may find is in torso / sleeve length as kids and women have different proportions.
LetsHarmonize ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:18:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll definitely look for some J. Ferrar and see about an affordable tailor as a second option. Thanks!
The torso is fine; sleeves are shorter than I'm used to but they look and feel fine. It's my shoulders that make kids' and women's stuff a bit tight.
vorticon_mafia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll happily second the other guy in saying that a good tailor can be your best friend when it comes to clothing. Style is one thing, but it doesn't matter what you wear or how fancy/expensive it is; if it fits poorly it'll look a fraction as good as it should. Find a good tailor, and then pick clothes that fit your shoulders. Clothing can be taken in, sleeves can be shortened, hems can be increased, but you can't really add material where it doesn't exist. Even a $5 shirt when fitted correctly to your form, will look like a $50 shirt.
Kingsley7zissou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Armani and Armani exchange clothes are more European build clothes. Maybe look for more European brand's maybe Asian brands.
charlesfish69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a really thin guy and, although I'm not super short, I do find JC Penny's is pretty good for buying pants. You also can buy Levi's online and they can pretty much get you any size that you want. I also do wear a bunch of gals clothes for both jeans and shirts though as they do tend to fit skinny people a bit better in my opinion.
Fatvod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Uniqlo slim fits are a godsend.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome suggestion! I might check those out myself!
rafyy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out Zara and H&M too...they have extra-slim fits, theyre cheap, and stylish.
thehoods ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:54:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very similar in proportions to you, 5'4" around 125. Lots of people make a size XS now, some of my favorites are American Eagle and J Crew for fit. American Eagle makes jeans in a size 26 waist. In recent years American Apparel has really improved as well. Their XS is the slimmest and smallest I've found, and it's relatively cheap. I'd recommend checking out /r/malefashionadvice and /r/frugalmalefashion it's been a very big help to me.
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll check those three stores for XS. I've been wearing the same pants I wore in high school (like 6-7 years now) so I'll look into pants too. Idk if the subreddits are for me. At least not now. Good to know they're there if I need them though. Thanks for the response!
jarrit0s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hollister chino's worked well for me. Really comfortable and they were only $20.
stiicky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this may sound stupid, but a lot of the larger retail stores where you might buy clothes don't usually have great slim fit options. You are better off shopping in 'hipster' clothing stores like H&M/Urban Outfitters/UNIQLO which have actual slim/skinny options.
I am also part of the skinny struggle, instead of buying slim/skinny fit clothing to be edgy I have to do it more out of necessity
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I noticed. :o I'll check those three out. Thanks!
Dick_chopper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:42:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you even know what a hipster is?
2hands10fingers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey there. We pretty much have the same body. Same weight and height. I'm in my late 20s, but I wanted decently fashionable basics. I found Everlane.com and I love their stuff. They have XS and I'm all about it. Also, look into TopMan, they also carry small sizes and good prices and more diverse selection. I don't know your budget, but you can build the wardrobe over time, and it's a good investment because you're paying for quality. I hope that helps. :)
LetsHarmonize ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 21 and a college student. I wouldn't pay full price for those, but the sale prices look fair enough. :)
2hands10fingers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally get that. Looking good in college definitely gets you noticed depending where you are. Definitely nice as a Christmas present. I pay full price because I find ways to rotate all my clothing so they have repeated uses throughout the week if need be. Anywho, good luck fellow slim-man!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Banana Republic is out of my price range unfortunately.
H&M looks good and the prices are just what I'm looking for.
I've done some dumbbell lifting to keep my arms a decent width. I don't think I need to hit the gym for another few years.
andersmb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm about
you'reyour size at 5'5 and 135-140, a little more filled out( I've got tree trunk legs) You just have to find a store or two that sells what fits you well and stick with them. For example, I always by my jeans from the same store, they have a size that fits me well and sell jeans that are comfortable and look good. I have no problem wearing men's small shirts. Sometimes sweaters are a bit long in the sleeves, but typically it's not too much of an issue. Look for stores that sell slim fit items too.You may have to adjust your personal style a little bit to find clothes that fit well too. Nicer/quality stores usually offer clothes that are styled/tailored to fit better, this goes for all sizes. Sometimes paying a little extra really does make a difference.
Also, one good tip I've learned from r/malefashionadvice is to build a wardrobe. Piece outfits together little by little, you don't have to overhaul your wardrobe in a week. When you find something you like that fits well, buy it and soon enough you'll have a closet of good looking, well fitting clothes.
Taiyoryu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You may need to shop labels that are not domestic. Zara which is a Spanish clothing label skews short and thin. I had to get pants for a wedding (groomsman and all that) and the stores didn't carry my size 6'1", 190 lbs. so I ended up ordering online an XL (I don't ever recall wearing an XL pants before that order) and thankfully they fit but was still on the snug side. Most online Chinese stores which often ship world-wide tend to skew one-size smaller than comparable US sizes if an exact measurement (typically metric) is not listed. Most reviewers who are first-time shoppers will indicate having to exchange an item to go one-size up. So if you are typically a US medium, you would just order the large. But since you are slim to start with, you can probably just order without making an adjustment.
Er_Hast_Mich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know the feels, bro (5'4 130ish). I love slim-fit suits, but usually what fits my shoulders and waist are too long. Get something that fits your shoulders and waist (neck for a shirt) and get them tailored. It's not that expensive (think in the $30 range) and there is a huge difference, especially for us little guys. You don't want to look like a child in his dad's suit. Also, wear pointed toe shoes. I'm a size 7 but it makes me look like I have real feet.
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not quite that bad, but it's close. Thanks for the advice!
Dontmakemechoose2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First of all the men's section in stores keeps getting smaller and smaller. Pretty soon it's just going to be a rack back near the restrooms. If you wear button up shirts there is a company called Tactical Gent (www.tacticalgent.com). All you have to do is go to a local tailor and get your measurements. You can upload them on the site and order custom dress shirts for about $30 each. It's about as much as you would pay for a shirt off the rack from Kohls, but it's custom to fit you. Just to be clear I have no affiliation with the site. I just started using it. I usually buy one new custom suit every fall that runs between $500-$900. I just bought a custom suit, custom shirt, tie and pocket square for $360. And it's all really well made.
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look for "Fitted" instead of "Slim" next time you go shopping for shirts. "Fitted usually has that "V" shape dimensions and look a lot better. I really don't know what's up with "slim", but they vary too greatly for me to even consider anymore.
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LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah more than half of my clothes were bought in high school and I graduated four years ago. I'm gonna try some of the stores suggested in the comments here. Hopefully they help you as well.
RealJuanDoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I weigh 5 pounds more then you but I'm 6ft. Your alright.
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I was skinny!
RealJuanDoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No my friend your short, maybe skinny but for your height you could be a jacked 135. For me I should be 170 at minimum (going by MMA stats on weight/height so it's kinda overshot).
Edit: seemed blunt but being short is by no means a bad thing I feel like I said it in a way that could be interpreted as negative.
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm comfortable with my current height and body and I'm still growing. :) You don't have to get to 170 if you don't want to. Just do what you're comfortable with.
Randomn355 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legit - only reason I don't wear blouses is purely because they fan out again at the bottom. I'm 6'0 so it's really noticeable on me if they do that.
LetsHarmonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I could pull off a blouse either for that same reason. The women's shirts I own are similar to men's except they have low V-necks and short sleeves, and most importantly they hug my torso to show off my figure.
Randomn355 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly have to be fussy with my slim fit shirts. Even those are sometimes a bit too big now, especially since I dislocated my shoulder.
Lots of physio to strengthen the joint > even bigger shoulders on someone who already had an hourglass figure haha
I even try to stick to coats with belts because they nip me in at the waist.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:08:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love slim fit clothing as well. I specifically only wear joggers because I like the feel and they go really well with a casual shoe, like sperries or janoskis.
DocGerbill ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:59:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea what the words in that sentence mean :|
What are: joggers, sperries and janoskis?
secretagentkazak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:19:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Joggers are like a sort of slim sweatpants (a little less casual than sweats), sperrys are boat shoes and janoskis are skate shoes. Sperrys and janoskis are both really popular in casual day-to-day wear.
kheltar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hit up as many different stores as you can. I find fit varies (often wildly) between stores.
I'm 6'4" and about 190lbs, I cycle and run so have big thighs.
Gap jeans are my saviours at the moment, found some tapered jeans that are big in the thigh and thin down toward the ankle. They look much better as they actually fit properly.
Shirts are a bastard, being thin, but tall and with long arms is a tricky combination. Once again, shop around, go to department stores, the shirt sections here are usually of decent size and have people that will give you good advice.
It's a matter of finding the brands that work for you. It's annoying and limiting, but when you find stuff that works it's easy.
Taking someone decent at fashion with you helps, and usually those people like shopping anyways, so happy days.
ianperera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out Guess, but sign up for their emails and wait for 30% off at least. Their XS should fit you fine, as I'm about the same measurements. Banana republic has XS online (and get tailored slim fit shirts) too, but I find some of their other stuff pretty boring especially if you're not in a cold climate. Also wait for sales.
Shrinky-Dinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start doing pull ups and bench press. Its good for you. Not only will you start to fill out your shirts better but you will love a much safer life.
Imagine if you were randomly hit by a football player. How would your body fair? Not well. You need that muscle to protect you!
yodawg1111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to weigh about the same and I'm 5'5 so I know exactly the predicament you're in. No matter how small of a size I would pick at big department stores like jcpenny, sears, kohls, macy's they still wouldn't fit me right. I tried shopping around for a bit and found that H&M, Forever21 Men, Zara, ExpressMen, and Uniqlo usually had cuts that fit me better.
pullish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're going to have to shop around, but generally nicer shirts will fit better off the rack. Otherwise, you might have to get your shirts tailored.
Hugh & Crye has shirts that fit slim and skinny guys really well.
jarrit0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a similar body type as you end usually end up buying boys shirts in XL. I've had good luck at H&M for jackets, though.
maliciousorstupid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No joke.. try the young adults section. 5'4" at that weight puts you more in line with big kids clothes than small adult clothes.
KawaiiHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start browsing malefashionadvice. Shop at uniqlo xs or Asian brands. Your waist size is not that uncommon. Tailoring is always a good option.
CrikeyMeAhm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
TailorTailorTailorTailorTailor
Edit: But really, though, you give a tailor $10, and he/she will take a $15 shirt from target or walmart and turn it into a form-fitting shirt that you love to wear and looks like a $100 shirt. You can turn all of your clothes into properly fitted clothes.
hotrock3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tailors are going to be your best option. At 6'3" and 150 lbs it's also my best option. They aren't that expensive when compared to the cost of the clothing your wearing while looking professional. For causal clothing or your not at work but still nice clothing it may be a bit pricy. Use some older shirts that you probably need to get rid of and do some internet research and see if you can tailor it yourself. If you just want to figure out what you need to do to make it fit right use cloths pins to pull areas tighter along the seams.
I quickly figured out that I knew what needed done to make any shirt fit well but I sucked at actually doing it.
foetus_smasher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at shopping from european or asian stores/brands/franchises. They're typically a size smaller for the same mark in a US store, and carry sizes smaller than you would expect to see.
xkcdFan1011011101111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want the slim look and normally dress up, you just need to find the right stores. Express caters to slim fit and might have something in your range.
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a slim dude, check out H&m ... 15$ dress shirts made for skinny dudes!..... I own every color heh.
CurioustoaFault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go on Ebay and look for Korean fashion. Their stuff runs very small and still looks pretty damn good (and is cheap). Even the adult stuff is rather small, as their sizes are twice as small as American.
BrandonAbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the tailor. Buy things you'll wear repeatedly and enjoy wearing, spend more on each, and buy fewer things. Get them altered to fit you correctly. My nicest/favorite clothes are ones I bought second hand and had the sleeves shortened on. I have broad shoulders and T-Rex arms, and every nice coat/blazer I have had to be altered. Dress shirts come in appropriate sleeve lengths, fortunately. The most critical thing is fitting tops to your shoulders and chest. The rest can be easily adjusted.
jimmy_beans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's an option you might consider.
TheDVille ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a somewhat oddly proportional guy, I always had a hard time finding dress shirts that fit. I'm skinny with long arms, and larger sizes usually get girthy. I'd recommend shopping around at major stores, find a brand that fits, and stick with it.
scrottymcbogerballs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but it's hard to find age appropiate styles, and they rarely last more than a season or two. Might be better off getting them tailored. Just do one shirt/pant at a time so it's not a big hit on your checking account. I'm 5'11" and 152 and even smalls are too big in the torso.
ranatalus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Asian men's fashion will probably be right up your alley/build. Some companies like doublju (on amazon) and yesstyle are decently cheap, too.
aeiluindae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I was the same way. If I lose any fat without gaining a lot of muscle, I'm going to have trouble buying pants that fit again. It used to be a serious issue.
count_scoopula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you live near a Zara, check out their men's section. My old boyfriend is about 5'9", 115-120 and he wears a lot of their shirts.
barcafor20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very similar build to you. I have a lot of luck with Gap and Banana Republic -- if you wait for the right deals and/or get the Gap Credit Card like I did you can get some really great deals. I also have a fair bit of luck with Nautica.
welcometoraisins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
buy Asian brands. Uniqlo is a good lower-cost option
Castianity37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just described my boyfriend's body perfectly. When I buy him clothes, I look for men's extra small. It fits perfectly on him. Also, you can look for specific types of clothes. I'd give slim fit a try.
urtlesquirt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn if 5'4 and 115 is scrawny, I am a skeleton. 6'0"-6'1" and 140ish
HavanaDays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Express for me their X large is about a medium and they go down to extra small.
shadytrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thrift store + tailor!
DosAngeles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uniqlo i.e. Asian men clothing.
flyibis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you live in a decent sized city, look online for tailors who fly in and size for custom shirts (and pants, etc) a few times a year. You get to pick from hundreds of shirt fabrics, choose your collar and cuff style, pocket or no pocket... once you get a custom shirt you will never buy off the rack again. Just don't be that guy who gets the free monogram on his cuff ;-)
The stuff is typically made in Hong Kong so the price is often less than a designer shirt off the rack, though marginally more than a mall type store.
PhilPhoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
www.hughandcrye.com has great shirts for thinner gents.
Leafstride ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tailors/Seamstresses
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 5,5 but weight about 145. I'm not scrawny by any means but i m similar in waist (28 instead of 27) but check out shirts xs. They usually fit me tighter and should fit you slim.
HelpMahBoobs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My husband was once rather small in the waist and he looked amazing in clothes from Express.
Ezb2247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
H&M usually has slim fit men's shirts that aren't too expensive :) and they look pretty nice.
countvoncastro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taylor.
Or take in your shirts yourself. I have an old sewing machine. I take in the pant legs and sides of shirts. Just a little, makes all the difference.
I didnt realize how much tayloring helps, until I had some Marriachi pants made custom for a wedding. Best looking pants i ever had, but they were for a gas. So i laid them out, and copied the measurements onto some jeans. Now all my pants are done that way. Feels and looks great.
LetsHarmonize ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:25:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great suggestion, but unfortunately I don't sew and don't live near my family that does. :(
Also, it's spelled "tailor." "Taylor" is a name.
way2lazy2care ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just because you don't sew doesn't mean you can't learn to sew. Used sewing machines can be pretty cheap and it's not that hard.
mai_tais_and_yahtzee ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 17:42:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with all of this, except weighing yourself every day. For many people, that can cause obsessive behavior. And also, since an adult's weight can fluctuate by 6 pounds over the course of 24 hours, depending on time of day that you weigh, what you've eaten, when you've pooped, etc., it's not going to give you an accurate picture. Once a week is better, IMO.
Beverfantom ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:09:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you should weigh yourself the first thing in the morning, preferably after the morning poop. Doing it once a week is no better to combat the fluctuate since you might weigh yourself on the low end one week and high end next week and think you gained weight and lose motivation.
geekworking ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:28:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Daily weights will let you recognize your daily fluctuations. You may worry for the first few days, but most people will quickly learn to average the numbers.
You are going to get the same fluctuations over a week as well. If you lose 3 lbs, but weigh yourself during an upswing daily fluctuation you could end of feeling that your entire week's effort was a waste. This is much worse than being a bit obsessive.
sleepytoday ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 18:58:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking less measurements usually leads to poorer quality data. Source: I'm a scientist.
ztatiz ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:19:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trained as scientist and currently work as statistician, can confirm. The idea that weighing yourself once a week leads to more accurate estimates has baffled me for years. All the stuff mai_tais said is exactly why I would much prefer to weigh multiple times a day, under multiple conditions, every day.
sleepytoday ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:24:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I'm trying to lose weight, I weight myself every day, at the same time (first thing in the morning, after going to the loo) I have 7 day rolling mean, and only Draw conclusions from that.
ztatiz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:30:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think that makes a lot of sense. I like to have a sense of what's a reasonable fluctuation after x activity too though (eating, running short distance, running long distance, etc.). Without being interested in all of that though, I think most people would do much better to follow a weight measurement plan like yours, as compared to weighing once a week.
indeedwatson ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:34:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need accuracy. Overall trend and its psychological effect is more important than quality data.
ztatiz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Overall trend is not mutually exclusive from quality data. I would argue that they're kind of maybe just a little bit related?
I'm guessing most adults can decide for themselves if high frequency weigh-ins is having a harmful psychological effect, and I certainly feel they are free to make that choice for themselves. The point I and I think other redditors were arguing was about accuracy, not "ought."
(edit: spelling)
indeedwatson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:30:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think what they mean by accuracy is how accurate your weight fluctuates in response to diet changes, as opposed to water weight and minute changes that are irrelevant in this context.
Don't overestimate how much people know about diet and their bodies, if someone saw their weight drop for 2 days straight and then go back up, for normal, expected reasons, but didn't know about these natural fluctuations they might get discouraged right away or, thinking they're eating too much, restrict calories more than needed, and find it unsustainable, and give up, before reaching a week or two where they would notice the overall trend.
The data of minor weight fluctuations isn't really valuable if you're not tracking other data such as meal timing, macros, your sleeping habits, stress, etc.
And all those things would be too much to start for someone who knows nothing about weight loss, and not even needed/worth it at that stage.
ztatiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah but if you weigh yourself once a week you can still manage to weigh yourself when your weight has fluctuated up (you may be at a lower end of your own weight range when you weighed yourself on Monday of week 1, but Monday of week 2 may be your highest weight day). Lower frequency weigh-in doesn't circumvent the problem of a weigh-in that captures "normal fluctuation" as opposed to "response to diet change."
I should have clarified in my original comment, and have done so in a few others by now, that I'm interested in those fluctuations for myself but that if others aren't interested in them that the best (clarification: as in more accurate, and more accurate as in, in response to diet and not in response to drinking a liter of water or something) way is to weigh under consistent conditions, not differing ones. But in that case, consistency is key for understanding your weight's response to diet changes, not reducing the frequency of measurement.
(edit: clarification and grammar)
indeedwatson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
But the week or two weeks gives time to tell if the diet is working: If you lost however much you were hoping for according to calculations, you're on the right path. If not, then you need to up/lower your calorie intake.
EDIT you're right that consistency is really important, obviously even if you're weighing yourself two weeks apart it should be under similar conditions.
munketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really if you weigh yourself when you're heavier than normal. I can wake up 3lbs heavier some days for no real reason and using the same conditions. If you weigh yourself one week and it's normal then next week it's 3lbs heavier, you can't know whether you've gained 3lbs, it's a 'heavy day', you've stayed the same, or you've lost weight. Once a day under the same conditions will always be the best.
indeedwatson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The time gap you weigh yourself at should be enough to make it evident whether your weight fluctuation is due to diet.
munketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
? and what if the 2 days you weigh yourself in 14 days are days that you're heavier than normal and the next day you would be 3lbs less but you'd never know.
Los_Kings ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:28:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, I have a daily spreadsheet with a column for time of day, and a column for notes, e.g. if I'm wearing a full suit (my scale is at the office), if I just ate, pre/post morning dump, etc. I like to know the variables!
Edit: Typo. D'oh.
GND52 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:48:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I weigh myself twice a day, right when I get up and right when I go to bed, always fully nude. Makes it much easier to compare the data.
Los_Kings ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of difference do you notice between the numbers?
GND52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm usually 2-5 pounds heavier at night than in the morning. Day-to-day usually varies no more than 1-2 pounds, depending mostly on my calorie intake (which I also track, as best I can).
For trends I look at a 7 day rolling average, which helps to smooth out any noise.
Hachifac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you me? I weight myself twice a day and write it in a google spreadsheet, been doing it for almost a year to track my weight loss.
There's a few times that I lost 4~6lb over 2~3 weeks but if I had weighed once a week I might have thought that I plateau'd
ztatiz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:34:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the few pictures I have hanging in my office http://crosstech.crossref.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/many_metrics.jpg
ranatalus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
more often yes, but more conditions? I'm not sure it's appropriate for tracking changes to your weight. I weigh myself daily in the morning, after going to the bathroom, before getting dressed. I know that food/recent activity/clothing will never drastically impact the measurement.
ztatiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I clarified in a different comment that I weigh myself under those conditions specifically because I want to get a sense of what's a reasonable fluctuation for those conditions. I find that information inherently interesting I guess. Short term variance can be as interesting as long term trends IMO.
Anyway for myself, I've learned that recent activity certainly can and does impact the measurement by a lot. For instance, it may not be a hard and fast rule but my weight before and after a long run helps me determine if I hydrated well during the run, if I need to continue to drink more afterwards or if I'm basically good.
ranatalus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, my last sentence was poorly worded. I meant that, by weighing myself under conditions that are as repeatable as possible, I can avoid the fluctuations that recent activity/eating would cause.
Photovoltaic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't do that unless you're using the data for other stuff. The better plan is to weigh yourself every time at the same time under the same conditions. So every time after you wake up after you pee is probably the best time.
OR, you can do it for fun little things. Example: I'm 180 pounds before my run. I'm 173.4 pounds after my run! I just sweated out 3 liters of water! HOLY SHIT! Better drink as much as I can to recover (this is how I use pre and post run data).
Alternative: I'm 180 pounds, I wonder how much poop is in me...but everyone has done that :P
ztatiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:36 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do what I want ;p
thisis4reddit ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:14:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poorer quality data. Greater mental health.
sleepytoday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you look at trends rather than individual measurements.
Neshgaddal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes. It's absolutely possible that if you only weigh yourself once a week that you bust your ass on the treadmill, maintain a 1000 kcal daily deficit and still find that your scale shows a higher weight at the end of the week. That's incredibly demotivating and can stop your plan to lose weight in week one.
But i also understand that not everybody understands and doesn't have to understand variance. However, understanding that weighing yourself only provides you with a point of data that you then use to figure out a trend is always preferable if you are able to.
icedcooly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*fewer measurements.
Semblio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teeth-grinding intensifies
sleepytoday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grudgingly upvoted!
lilleulv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found a daily weigh-in after toilet visit in the morning, but before breakfast that I type into Libra right away the best for me. Even with daily fluctuations I can look at trend and the trendline and see that it's all right.
Weighing myself only once a week led to a shit, squiggly line and I quickly abandoned that.
sleepytoday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the pointis that the trendline is the important thig, not the individual measurements. Weighing yourself every day means thst the trendline is more accurate.
lilleulv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly.
solepsis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a fan of my smart scale. I weigh myself after showering in the morning before I eat anything (seems like pretty close to a baseline number with regards to intra-day fluctuations) and the data syncs automatically with MFP and any other apps I want to allow that info.
octoberthug ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:32:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An alternative to weighing yourself everyday is to take your measurements. Waist, hips, chest, arms, thighs, etc. Once you start seeing the numbers drop on your waist, you really think twice about eating a big meal. Plus, it reminds me keep better posture. Many people can take an inch off their waist just by standing up straight.
Ray_adverb12 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:24:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with this. I recently lost 70 lbs and when I weighed myself every day I quickly found myself restricting more and more, working out too much, not meeting my protein recommendations because of low calories, etc. It's very easy to go from "tracking but allowing yourself indulgences" to "obsessive weighing and working off every extra ounce".
Jbota ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:09:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you weigh yourself at the same time in the same way that helps limit the swing. I like getting up in the morning, peeing, then weighing myself naked.
FrejGG ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:04:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On that note, a guy over at /r/fitness said he preferred weighing himself every day because it made him understand his body and natural fluctuations. Not disagreeing with you, just saying different people work differently.
fritopie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same time of day as well. Like first thing in the morning after you've gone to the bathroom and with little to no clothes on. When I weigh at home, it's usually pretty consistent. But at the Dr. it's all over the damn place. Once they didn't even let me set my purse down before they recorded my weight. So that time I was like 3 pounds heavier than I should have been.
ideal_ass_law ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once a week is good for seeing if you are losing or gaining any weight at all, but daily measurements are good for seeing a trend. I typically weigh myself everyday and average the weeks. That is what I found to be most effective.
angrytortilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I weigh myself at the end of the morning workout on Fridays. I can be sure I had a whole week of good eating, and I'm likely to be empty in the rectal region by this point as well. Plus it sets the goals for the next week knowing what I'd accomplished.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you just weigh yourself every morning (or night , or both) and take that into account.
ThatSpyCrab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't remember exactly, but there is a 'correct' way to weigh yourself. I believe you poop in the morn, then drink a certain volume of water. You weigh yourself before breakfast and after (x) minutes of drinking said volume of water. Haha sorry for not knowing the values but maybe that'll help someone!
Stevo32792 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I weigh myself every morning and watch my monthly trend. If my weight isn't going the direction I want when I check the month, I find a way to change what I'm doing. That being said, you can indeed see daily progress. I was going down a pound every day or two for about a month and the scale showed it. I guess it's different for everyone.
goatpunchtheater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
weighing yourself first thing in the morning is the best way, if you want to do it. That said, I agree with the obsessive behavior thing.
Endur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd want to do everyday at the same time and look at the trend. Like in the morning after you go to the bathroom
leptons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weighing yourself every day at the same time every day produces consistent results. The best time is immediately after you defecate in the morning, and before you consume any food or liquids. I collected data like this for a year and it is very accurate. It's so accurate, you can see the bumps where the weekends are (extra calorie intake), and especially the holiday food binges.
epresident1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can be getting in awesome shape and will not lose a pound if you're doing a program where you're trading fat for muscle. The scale will discourage you, while its how your clothes fit and how you look in the mirror that will keep you motivated.
Edit: obviously this doesn't hold true if you're starting out obese. This advice is more for those with dad bods.
Salvyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They said at regular intervals, that doesn't mean every day.
xakeri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally agree that taking each instance of your weight in isolation is not a good idea because it can fluctuate so much even just based on how much sodium you had the day before.
I have a fitbit, and in the fitbit app, there is a section for adding your weight, and it automatically puts it in a line chart for you. So while one day I might weigh 3 pounds more than the previous day, as long as I weigh myself regularly, I can see the trends in my weight over the course of a month or two. It also averages your weight for a given 7 day period, which is also pretty useful.
Copeywopey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree to disagree with you. I'm an RN and we weigh patients daily who need to be. I see where you're coming from about the mental aspect, but daily will provide more accurate results as opposed to weekly especially if you "fluctuate 6lbs"- I don't believe that to be true. A 6lb fluctuation would cause serious concern for me
EquipLordBritish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not so bad if you graph it in calc/excel so you can see all the fluctuations over a longer period of time.
clockwerkman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you weigh yourself at the same time of day, generally in the morning.
Once a week is a terrible idea. The point is to track intake vs weight fluctuation, which is impossible if you only weigh yourself once a week.
munketh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That daily fluctuation is exactly why you should weigh yourself daily...
[deleted] ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 17:07:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A couple things here.
Blanket diets are useless. Whole milk, butter, red meats, etc. can all very easily be part of a balanced diet. Especially if you need to gain muscle (or "tone"). Dietary fats DO NOT make you fat. Excess glycogen stores are far more of an issue. Fat is your body's primary fuel source, so by limiting carbohydrate intake, you can keep your body from storing excess fats and utilizing what is quickly available. Read more on the glycogen dynamic here:, and here:.
On the topic of "toning", no amount of elliptical, treadmill, or high-rep, low-weight nonsense is going to "tone" your muscle. Definition is created by having muscle mass and low bodyfat. So if you want to tone your ass and legs, you need to put some muscle on them. If you don't have the glutes, quads, and hamstrings already, losing bodyfat is going to do nil to make them look better. Don't get scared of adding muscle; you will NOT get "too bulky" overnight. You will get some shape and definition however.
Weighing yourself everyday is sort of a fool's errand, in that day to day fluctuations will demoralize you. 2-5 pound changes occur each day with solids intake and fluid retention. So average out the daily weights by week, and track that. Also, weigh yourself after using the bathroom and before taking in ANY water or food in the morning. This will give you a far more accurate gauge than when you're at the gym or before bed after eating and drinking all day.
kingofthesofas ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:46:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I weigh myself everyday and track the overall curve. There are fluctuations but over a week or two you can clearly see the trend
wsupfoo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:16:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its also effective for weight loss: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2016/01/03/weight-loss-scales-daily/77584478/
Jacoby6000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:04:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also note, fat fills you up. Carbs do not. If you want to feel full, eat something with some fat in it. If you want to feel like your starving, eat a bunch of carbs that end up turning in to fat anyway and making you fatter.
Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find it's best to incorporate all three. If you're trying to build muscle though only carbs and protein go into that. But fat is still just nice to have for satiety and flavor.
Something like 20%fat/40-45%carbs/25-30% protein.
always_polite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:18 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
..... Carbs absolutely make you feel full... Have you ever ate pizza or pasta? Those foods contain like 90% carbs.
Jacoby6000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:54 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have to eat many more carbs to feel full, than you do fat. 10g of fat will much you much more full than 10g of carbs
Cultjam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we please bring back whole milk to fast food restaurants?? Pretty please???
RandMcNalley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm blankets. haarrghlgh.
Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sort of agree with this but also disagree.
Blanket diets are good for people that don't understand nutrition and don't care enough to learn yet still want to lose weight.
The best course to eating healthy is definitely to know the ins and outs of nutrition and how things like whole milk, butter, and red meats, etc can fit into a balanced diet. Especially considering "a balanced diet" changes depending on what you're trying to do.
Trying to lose weight? Eh, macros don't matter too much. Just eat calorie-efficient things and not too much of them. Trying to bulk hard? Oh god give me all the protein and carbs you've got and then some more, and then even more protein to top it off. Fat? I don't have anything against it other than it's not protein and carbs so get it the **** out of here. Trying to lose fat and build muscle? Exercise fasted, use that fuel you've already got inside you! After exercising get some god damn carbs and protein up in this. Replenish those glycogen stores and get that protein to work building muscle. Don't exercise while you're recovering and full of food. You're just throwing away calories your body SHOULD be using to make that sweet sweet muscle. Those are NOT the calories you wanna burn, you wanna burn the ones stored in those fat cells so do more fasted cardio!
To truly know what you're doing with dieting you have to at least know slightly more than the basics of nutrition. And a lot of people are incredibly ignorant about nutrition, so blanket diets are their only hope because they're not capable enough of working out a good diet on their own.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Allow me to rephrase then: fat is your body's most abundant and available fuel system. Adipose tissue can supply a virtually endless amount of energy in the context of exercise. It cushions your organs and brain, amongst other essential functions.
And again, carbs are an athlete's best friend. They are essential for long hikes, climbs, or treks. They help your body transport and break down other essential nutrients, and come in vitamin-rich packages.
I am only suggesting that for those looking to eat at a deficit for weight loss, cutting carbs will be more beneficial than cutting fats, all else being equal.
herman_gill ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:56:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always funny to see the ketards out in full force on the main subreddits.
Caloric excess makes you fat, whether it's from fats or carbs. Most of the foods with the highest satiety index (highest level of fullness for lowest level of calories) are high carb food sources, like potatoes, and most vegetables. All the other ones are from food high in protein (the macro most consistently linked with satiety).
While liquid carbs aren't great for satiety (with milk being an exception), fats aren't all that different from carbs, and are often worse (because of the lack of fiber in high fat foods).
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:55:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not pushing Keto. I'm merely stating facts. If your goal is weight loss, you'd do well to utilize fat faster and more prominently as a fuel source. There's a large gap between ketogenic dieting and optimizing carb intake. Carbs are essential components of protein transport, high-intensity athletics, and others. I'm not starting a witch hunt.
Cals in vs cals out is the macro of weight loss/gain. But that doesn't mean the micro isn't worth working on. You could theoretically follow an IIFYM macros diet and be in terrible shape. At some point you need to give your phytovitamins and amino acids their due. This is no different.
EDIT: I linked to the Keto resource site solely to offer a source and illustration on the principle.
herman_gill ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:10:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Based on what evidence?
Evidence has consistenly shown the macronutrient most beneficial to fat loss and weight maintenance is protein, whereas differences in fat/solid carbohydrate intake provided negligible benefits.
What do you mean by optimizing carb intake? Do you mean around workouts to replenish glycogen stores, or to reduce carbs during caloric restriction? Because reducing fat is just as effective (as long as it's still above the essential requirements of about 0.2g/lb/day), and maintaining high levels of glycogen during caloric restriction and exercise means you can still workout and not feel like crap.
Based on what evidence? Also are you talking about hepatic glycogen or muscular glycogen? Because I'm pretty sure hepatic fat is much more of an issue than hepatic glycogen is.
Again, what are you basing that on? When you have food the carbohydrates are the substrates most readily utilized for energy, whereas the excess fat (above your caloric requirement) are stored for later use. Your body preferentially uses carbohydrates, not fats. In fact, your body will readily undergo gluconeogenesis to produce carbohydrates (at great physical cost) because some tissues in your body can't rely on fats as a predominant fuel source. Carbs are the predominant fuel source for the body, not fat.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Red meat is now suspected to be a carcinogen by the WHO. It's all part of a balanced diet but in this case you need to be especially careful.
beerlobster ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:44:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vague correlation isn't even remotely cause for concern. Humans are designed to eat meat and plants. Red meat is fine.
mwapo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly would cut the milks and red meats for a while to see how your body responds. It's very easy to overlook your body developing lactose intolerance or red meats upsetting your stomach which cause you to feel worse which leads to you not wanting to work out or even diet.
I lose weight much faster cutting dairy because my general mood and health improve. But dairy doesn't have enough of a direct impact to have been noticeably the reason I was having the lethargy I was.
Try out cutting some of the foods people tend to have reactions to. But in the end calories are calories if you aren't having negative reactions.
AuNanoMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's likely that the sugar in the milk you are drinking is what is causing you to not feel so good. Low carbohydrate diets prevent spikes in your insulin levels caused by high blood sugar as a result of high carb intake. Those insulin spikes tend to make people feel lethargic. If you stick to creams and hard cheeses you will probably feel better. I have no idea why you feel bad eating red meat but if a person doesn't there is no reason to limit red meat intake.
UltrafastFS_IR_Laser ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:33:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Red meat is in general not as healthy as white meat. You should limit red meat consumption for your overall health and eat white meat. Saturated fats are still not that great for you and there is higher cholesterol in red meat than white meat.
AuNanoMan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry but you are behind the time. This isn't true at all. Check this out. In summary: dietary fat is not bad for you and neither is dietary cholesterol. Last year the the department of Health and Human Services also said the same thing. There is no reason to think white meat is better for you than red meat. Fat is not bad for you.
UltrafastFS_IR_Laser ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Seems like you don't actually understand nutrition at all. There are multiple types of fat and cholesterol. LDL is "bad" for you, and should be consumed at a much lower rate than HDL. HDL is the "good" type of cholesterol. Essentially we have known for a long time that high HDL foods are good for you. As for fats, Saturated fats are still bad for you, but in general unsaturated fat is still healthier. You're taking a blanket article and generalizing it. If you actually read the guidelines it takes it from, you will find that it still supports reducing saturated fat, calories from sugars, and refined grains. It also mentions low consumption of red meat and higher consumption of seafood and white meat.
AuNanoMan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:11:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You do understand dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol right? Did you read the article? It clearly says that dietary cholesterol has no effect on serum cholesterol. Serum cholesterol is what is produced by the liver, and what runs through the blood and can be found on the inner walls of your vascular system. Further more, there is no such thing as "bad cholesterol." LDL cholesterol levels are more correlated with heart disease but the issue is that LDL is not actually cholesterol, they are what are called lipoproteins, that's what the second L stands for. Bother HDL and LDL carry cholesterol. You can have the same counts of LDL and have two very different measures of cholesterol. Typically large fluffy LDL is considered much better for you than small dense LDL. Furthermore, LDL does not correlate as well to heart disease as triglyceride levels do. Triglycerides tend to increase with intake of carbohydrates. But none of this matters because the primary argument is whether saturated fat is bad for you. Take a look here. If you can't see that one, view the summary article here. The conclusion is that increases saturated fat, does not increase the fat in your blood, aka triglycerides.
Narissis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:09:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Addendum: to improve chances of long-term success, think of "diet" as a noun, not a verb. If you diet, or if you go on a diet, then you're giving yourself the option of ending or going off the diet. Do that, and the weight comes back. Instead, change your diet - diet in this case simply meaning "the way you routinely eat". Don't try to lose weight and then go back to the lifestyle that made you overweight. Adopt a newer, healthier lifestyle and eating habits that will keep you in shape into the future.
Yangoose ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:20:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one is huge. Also remember that we all have different body types and different things we excel at. Short dudes are just built for some lifts while tall guys are good at others. My bench numbers suck, my deadlift numbers rock.
karneykode ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Short guy here. My lower body strength is top notch but my upper body sucks.
Zorgogx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:18:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Losing weight is all good, but how do you GAIN weight? Nothing seems to work!
TownieMesiah ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does your diet currently look like in terms of the usual foods you eat, how often you eat per day, what your physical activity throughout the week?
Zorgogx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I eat about 2000 calories a day in 3 meals, and I exercise pretty intensely for about 2 hours a day, and lift once or twice a week.
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Understanding ones basal metabolic rate (BMR) and how your activity throughout the day effects it is SUPER important in knowing how to control your weight. The average male of moderate daily activity has a BMR of 1500 cal/day (this is how many calories your body will burn passively just from being alive). You can add onto this any activities you do (100 cal/mile for running, ect.)
Although 2,000 calories IS undoubtedly a "recommended" diet, it's often only recommended as far as maintaining weight, or in some cases losing weight. With 2 hours of physical activity a day + a few days of muscle building exercises a few times a week you could easily be burning more than 2,000 resulting in your weight staying low to the point of bothering you. You can easily bump up to 2,400 - 2,600 cal and still be within the non-bulking "healthy" diet range. In doing so I'd suggest trying to maintain healthy macro-nutrition ratios. 1g / lb of body weight work well for protein intake to promote muscle growth. Keeping your carbohydrate calorie intake to 50% of your daily total is also a great way to ensure you aren't getting to many fast burning calories.
It might be intimidating or difficult to decipher at first, but looking up a beginners bulking routine on bodybuilding.com can be a great way to get started. It sounds like you're doing enough current exercise to where a light bulk will be effective.
Zorgogx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok awesome, thank you.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not too late or too early to start, today might just be the perfect day. You're gonna do awesome man, sounds like you already have a great foundation!
mhende ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/gainit
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:07:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good recipe and all but you could really replace it with pretty much anything that will give you a lot of calories with decent macros.
A shake like that probably has like 25%fat/50%protein/25%carbs
Which is pretty good but you could always use more carbs and less fat when trying to build muscle.
Still a very good simple recipe. You can even change up the flavor a bit. Add a banana for more carbs and it'll taste great.
I've even seen powered peanut butter which is like 80% protein and would help a recipe like this cut down on fat for those looking to do so.
You could even add a bit of chocolate syrup sometimes, or probably find a healthier option. If you're trying to bulk up it's not too bad to include stuff like that anyway.
charlesfish69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found eating out all the time and drinking a bunch of beer in college helped me pack on a lot of weight. Of course it was pretty much all in my stomach.
inuvash255 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat more bread.
No joke, start eating a couple extra slices of bread or a roll or some other pastry with every meal. When you want a snack, skip the carrots and go for a PB&J.
You'll get some chub, don't worry.
ViviWannabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have your thyroid tested. You might have hyperthyroidism. If you do, nothing will help you gain weight as long as it's untreated.
dulcetone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat more calories than you burn.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/gainit
Read the sidebar and just take in all the information there. There are many ideas and programs for people looking to put on weight there.
ConstipatedNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Up yer carbs and drink plenty of whole milk. Shit won't be able to stay off of you.
dirt_shitters ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to add to this list to get a fucking haircut. Not some bullshit $10 cut from great clips or super cuts. Go to a real salon and get it cut. It costs a little more, but its totally worth it. First of all, they shampoo and massage your head which is awesome, second, you will look much better, and third, the girls that work at the nicer places are usually better looking!
Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a redditor, I already don't talk to the homely middle aged woman cutting my hair.
I might have an anxiety attack if it was a drop dead gorgeous college coed.
Your_Majesty_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:41:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the last point, I hate it when people say they don't go to the gym because they feel like they are going to be made fun of. I've been a part of several gyms including the one at my university, and I have never seen anybody getting bullied or whatever. If I see someone that's smaller than me, or someone overweight, I usually just think " hey that persons trying to better themselves, good for them" and then go back to my workout. I feel like people that are uncomfortable and feel like their being made fun of are usually just have their self-esteem playing mind games with them like "that guy who is more in shape than me looked at me, he must think I'm a loser".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if going to the gym IS a huge issue for someone (which I agree with you that it really shouldn't be), it's really no excuse. You can make a huge amount of progress with only a pull-up bar and kettle bell at home. Hell, you don't even need that much equipment.
Your_Majesty_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While you are somewhat correct, I would argue that it's hard workout every part of your body without weights. Also more time consuming.
ViviWannabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, it can be hard not to fall into that trap. Just remembering Tech School, little 115lb Air Force chick on a Navy base, embarrassed to go into the weight room with all the Marine meatheads. I went to the gym exactly once the whole time and felt judged the whole time, although that probably wasn't the case.
Your_Majesty_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think an important thing to realize is that these "meatheads" didn't crawl out of the womb with a six pac. They had to go to the gym when they were just starting out, and they probably felt judged too.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:50:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TownieMesiah ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:56:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's not like there isn't value to avoiding certain foods. Sure you could eat 1500 calories of chocolates every day and lose weight but that's not a lot of chocolate, you'd still be hungry. The idea of avoiding grains or pasta or butter is the same idea as avoiding calorie dense foods as they'll use up more of your calorie "budget" without really making you full / satisfied.
In terms of "toning" when referring to combining diet and exercise it's a very real thing. Muscle growth provides a good framework for your body to distribute skin / residual fat over. Is it necessary? Certainly not. But in terms of "attractiveness" building muscle can alleviate areas where skin might bunch up or fold.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sorry, I certainly didn't mean any confusion. It appears as though we are at ends over nothing at all. I should have used a more specific word.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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romanticheart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I usually view "toning" as a combination of cutting and bulking. You are losing fat while gaining muscle. Whereas usually with cutting you are focusing mostly on losing fat and with bulking you are focusing on gaining muscle.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Edited for clarity, thanks!
mwapo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think toning is used to describe exercise designed to burn fat while not really gaining muscle mass. It's not particularly useful, but hey, if people are exercising, more power to them.
AuNanoMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To add to your 1500 calories in chocolate thing, the spikes in insulin from spiking your blood sugar could make someone develope metabolic syndrome ultimately resulting in TII diabetes.
geekworking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everybody should really spend a couple of weeks weighing and measuring their food just to develop a sense of how much equals how many calories. You can read guides on estimating portions, however you don't really get it until you practice it for a while.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely correct. I started my workout diet 7 months ago and have since, just from doing it so often, developed an innate sense for how many calories something is and how much of it I can eat reasonably. It's pretty crazy how well attuned your brain will become to estimating calories and just inherently knowing what's good and bad after a month or two of measuring and tracking.
jseego ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:54:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is such good advice.
Deako87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking as someone who has lost 89 lbs since March '15, thank you for speaking sanity.
TheNewElite250 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very well written and comprehensive I must say. I've been working on eating particularly for the past month, and boy did I underestimate that the hardest part of getting healthier for me would be to stop energy drinks. Going from 6 a day to 0 is very much not pleasant.
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Recognizing issues like energy drink / soda over-consumption at all is an awesome step, man. It sounds like you're doing an awesome job!
TheNewElite250 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, thanks. Still not exactly doing great, but it's a start. A Pepsi here and there is a far cry from 900-1500 calories in Monster (let alone everything else) a day faithfully.
TownieMesiah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh I'm not doing great, I quit smoking cigarettes but I still sit near a campfire every now and again."
Dude, from 6 monsters a day to a pepsi here and there is amazing progress to make. Sugar and caffeine have ridiculous hooks in people and here you are kicking them in the face one passed-up drink at a time.
Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you have to stop drinking energy drinks? There are 0 calorie versions of energy drinks.
Also if it's the caffeine you miss so badly you've still got coffee and also caffeine pills.
If you just want caffeine then pills are great. Imagine 100 cups of coffee for $2.
MaximusTheGreat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great way to put it. If you consider yourself unattractive (for WHATEVER reasons; bullied at school, shitty friends, mean strangers) even a little, when you start seeing results after sticking to a gym/diet routine, you notice that feeling starts going away. You start noticing others notice you more than before. Whether it's because you pay more attention to it, or because it's significantly more prevalent now, you notice.
That makes your day better. Then you feel better in all other aspects of your life. It's such a worthy investment.
Listen to the man/woman above; he wrote it in a way that's realistic and effective. You don't need to become a mad gymbro and sacrifice a ridiculous amount of time. 3 hours or so out of the week, plus a bit of planning when eating, isn't all that much. On top of that, it gets easier after you get into the groove.
samaslice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you hit the nail on the head
hoolia_chow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Make eye contact with people talking to you."
wait, is that why every conversation i have with a stranger ends up in awkward silence? i never look someone in the eyes because im extremely self conscious. :o
does anyone else have this problem, and if so, do you have a hard time making friends?
TGrady902 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is weird to see how many people, mostly males, wear shirts that are to big for them. I understand if you are trying to hide something but most really aren't. That line on the shoulder of the shirt is intended to be up towards the top of your shoulder, not halfway down your tricep. But if you like your clothes to run big and know they are big for you then who cares.
Fuckdeathclaws6560 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So on the topic of fitness I need to gain weight. What are some good tips? I'm 22 years old and have been roughly 120lbs for around the past 3 years and am about 5'8.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any sort of gym routine? What does your current diet look like in terms of how often you eat, what you eat, and when you eat?
"Bulking", or the act of going into caloric surplus for the sake of tissue development, is a great way to gain weight in preparation for a workout routine, or to supplement an existing workout routine. Looking up a beginners bulking guide on bodybuilding.com can be a great place to start.
If guides and macro-nutrition are intimidating or difficult to understand let me know and I can help you to understand the basics and where to start.
Fuckdeathclaws6560 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! I do not have a gym routine but I do 20 to 30 pull ups a day run for 3 or 4 miles twice a week. As for diet I don't have much of a plan so that's probably the largest part of my problem. I'll need a minute to look 91st the website but I'll let you know if I have questions. Thanks again!
ViviWannabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While Townie did give you great advice, I always urge people who have trouble gaining weight to get their thyroid tested by a medical professional. If you have hyperthyriodism and get it treated, it can help immensely.
Fuckdeathclaws6560 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I'll get that checked out!
ViviWannabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem. Thyroid problems don't run in my family, they amble slowly through my family, shaking hands and getting to know every single one of us. I can't tell you how many of my family members have had weight problems, in both directions, that all but disappeared after getting on thyroid meds.
menelaus_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have to ask - what do you do for work where you have the time and motivation to write out such an essay?
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, I'm a mechanical design engineer and project lead for a private firm in the Twin Cities. A lot of my work is taking clients out, hashing out system designs, coordinating other engineers working under me, and overseeing development. The few days after holidays are usually slow days for communication as my clients return from their time off work. This just happened to be a topic I'm passionate about.
iwouldwalk499miles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretend Gold. You hit it spot on.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also pick an exercise you like!
I'm a runner, and I run enough to where I kinda need to eat a lot. But a lot of people hate running and that's totally okay! If you hate it you will never do it to a point where it's efficient exercise. You need to find something active that you like, whether it be surfing or basketball or lifting or yoga. Whatever it is. Only do something you enjoy the process of. Do it a lot and you'll be healthy looking. Maybe you won't have sixpack abs or a perfect body but you'll definitely look better and feel better
saltystef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To go along with working out - Find something you LOVE to do. I hate running. I hate stationary biking. I hate the elliptical. But I tried Zumba once, fell in love with it, and lost a ton of weight, gained some muscles. And I am so excited on the days of the week my gym has Zumba. If you hate going to the gym, it's probably because you hate your workout. Try out different things, see what doesn't feel like a chore, and stick to it!
eustachiomustachio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was reading this whilst eating a buttered crumpets with a milky tea. Welp.
tommyjohnpauljones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish it were that simple.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes it's hard to overcome a lot of the stigma surrounding body image, self esteem, and the perceived judgement of others. If you're having specific issues and would like advice or just somebody to listen, feel free to let me know!
KazROFL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What skin repairing lotion.. There are like a zillion things that call themselves this.
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use this which you can find at your local target for cheap. It comes in varieties for sensitive skin, everyday use, or intensive care. I find it to be non-oily so it doesn't spur on blemishes or zits as well as very efficient in terms of using a little and having it go a long way. It smells incredible too.
I'll put a little on my face and neck after a shower to avoid dry or irritated looking skin. I'll also apply a little after using a zit treatment cream on the off chance that I have a little breakout.
Apatheticunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is where I start acting autistic. Where do I look? Do I stare at something straight ahead? If someone's walking in my direction, do I stare at them or give a glance and not?
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, I laughed pretty hard at "This is what I start acting autistic. "Staring" at anything is kinda the wrong action to use. Eyes forward to the horizon is perfectly acceptable. Hell, let those fuckers wander. Look at your surroundings, check out that fuckin' tree! It sure is beautiful this time of year. Look inside that bar you're passing, make a note to stop by sometime because shit is that like 22 taps? There's a big ass world out there and nobody is going to blame you for scoping it out. Just don't spend your time looking in the least interesting direction, down.
CMDR_Gila ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fitness post
placebotwo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the gym in the morning before work / school.
This is all from personal experience, YMMV but I did more in the gym in the morning in 3 months than I did trying to go off and on in the evenings for years.
techie2200 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was supposed to take my SO to the gym with me this morning. We slept in because of 3am movie watching...
Going tonight after work. Personally I prefer evening workouts as they help unwind after a long day of mental stress. Again though, YMMV
thatguy1717 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is something a lot of people don't get. Diets aren't something you just do for a few weeks to lose a couple pounds then go back to eating shit.
I started eating better and working out in July. I don't know how much weight I've lost because it's a bad indicator of what I've accomplished. I know I've lost 5 belt loops. But, my friends/co-workers ask me how much longer I'll be on my diet. Well, hopefully forever. I mean, I will eventually get to a place where I don't mind having the occasional pizza/bbq/cheeseburger for a meal. But, the point is to eat better long term, not just for a few weeks.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's sounds like you're doing awesome man! And you're absolutely right, hopefully forever is the exact attitude one needs. I wish you nothing but luck in the future, and that you may inspire some of your friends to do the same.
ekcshelby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A point regarding hair: that does NOT just mean on your head. Take care of ALL your hair, especially your facial hair. You want to have a beard? Great! Lots of people love beards! Keep it neat and clean. Maintain your eyebrows, your nose hairs, and especially the hair on your neck. There is a huge difference between the attractiveness of someone who has facial hair that is full but neat and clean with a tidy neck and someone who clearly just completely ignores it.
If you wear your hair short, you probably need to clean up the edges between haircuts unless you're getting your hair cut every 2 weeks or so and even then sometimes things can get messy looking.
No matter what your style is, neat and clean is almost universally more attractive than messy and sloppy.
adubbz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are eating more calories than you are burning, but still going to the gym and shit. It's still good for you right? Your body will still build muscle/tone? I never really understood that.
Like I don't necessarily want to lose weight all that much, but I want to be more fit generally. I still want to eat a fuckin' pizza though if I want to.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. Bulking is the act of intaking a calorie surplus for the purpose of building muscle and structure at the expense of small body fat gain (2-4% increase on a decently lean bulk).
If you are pushing it at the gym your body will use anything it can get it's hands on to build muscle. There are certainly foods that build leaner muscle, and foods that help promote muscle growth (see: protein). But ANY calories can be used to build muscle.
I am at the gym for an hour and 20 a day on a 5 day /wk split with a workout diet in place but still go out for drinks on Saturday nights and just blow my calorie budget away. It's totally fine to indulge every now and again as long as you put in the work and maintain a theme of healthy living.
adubbz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool. So it's never a waste going to the gym. Quality post by the way!!
Corenonthecob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully someone will see this. Regarding your point on eating butter, milk, bread, and pastas and then no making you feel full/satisfied...if you eat foods high in protein (e.g. lean meat, nuts, eggs, etc.) it will make you feel full. Therefore, if you're feeling particularly hungry between meals just eats some peanuts or almonds, and for meals makes sure you're getting a good amount of protein. Not only will this make you feel fuller, but it will also help you maintain or even build muscle mass while you're dieting!
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome point! Protein is a great way to both provide your body with useful energy and stave off hunger.
kittypuppet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who's allergic to perfumes and colognes, this is a terrible idea. Even if I just as much catch a small whiff I go into a sneezing fit.
The people who practically pour the bottle on themselves are the worst.
TownieMesiah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't wearing cologne if it's an assault on the nose, it's wearing you. Cologne is a fickle scent on the breeze so subtle you aren't sure you smelled anything at all. It's an invitation to get closer, gift box that demands opening.
I'm sorry you have adverse reactions to various scented products, but when in proper use on others they shouldn't have such bad effects on your. The issue is the user, not the product.
Taiyoryu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On "wear something that smells good without needing a reason", you can honestly just get by with that "clean" smell just by showering as often as you expect to be in public. Also use antiperspirant for those that sweat easily and have B.O. That should cover everyone except those with a medical condition.
For the lazy that don't want to accost themselves with cologne and perfumes, well that's where scented body wash comes in. If you have a significant other or have access to friends who are of the gender and persuasion you like to attract, bring them to the store. Have them pick and rank a few body washes they like the smell of. Then of those options pick one (or two if you are undecided) and try them at home. Make sure to have that same person smell you again after you've used the body wash because the fragrances are going to be affected by your own body chemistry. Personally, I use Old Spice Swagger.
Also if you do end up using a body wash, get yourself a loofah or scrub brush. Be efficient and exfoliate while you clean.
ragingcontextclue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
as far as eating right, it's really simple
Eat a lot of in season green stuff
Eat a lot of fruit
Eat healthy proteins, i.e. almonds, eggs, poultry, fish
Eat good fats, i.e. avocados and olives
Whole grain bread
Water, coffee, moderate amount of beer or wine
Use Olive Oil for cooking and eating (salads, dipping bread)
Stay away from pop, juice, anything with a shit ton of sugar in it, processed foods, a lot of red meat.
I think that about covers it.
Oh, garlic is amazing.
Mclarenf1905 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got a recommendation for a good repairing lotion?
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can find this at your local target for pretty cheap. It's what I use after showers and after any acne treatments I might need for the odd breakout.
It's non-oily so it doesn't cause any sort of shine, it's very efficient and a little goes a long way, and it's non-irritating to more sensitive area's like the eyelids. It also smells amazing.
Gold Bond's been doing this for decades, they know their shit.
lars5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is probably the most important thing. don't think about changes as goals, think of them as building new habits.
Arabianytes28 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The way you think speaks to me on a very logical, real yet understanding level. Most people could benefit from this method of processing cause and effect with applied solutions to one's problems. Unfortunately, many have trouble letting go of the denial and unrealistic expectations that demotivate efforts. In addition to great advice listed here, I believe admittance and acceptance helps in the first step towards changing one's way of perception and growth into a better you.
Aperture_Kubi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This would also increase your metabolism/passive calorie use too right? Complements the previous point.
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, your basal metabolic rate (BMR) is affected by how much muscle you have and what your daily activity is comprised of. Good call!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well said!
TetrisArmada ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:08:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely could've went on longer, but I was on mobile :)
It's worrisome how strongly the non-fat/low-fat, and seemingly "healthy" foodstuffs are marketed, when they don't really help much, if at all.
Mr_fun_bags ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough, half of those tips were told to us on the ballroom team to help your partner want to be closer to you. The closer you and your partner are, the more connection you have, and the better you dance together
JedLeland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And remember you're looking for general trends, not day-by-day changes. People's weights fluctuate, even if they're going in a general downward direction over the long haul. I guarantee that at some point, one day you'll be down two pounds and the next you'll be back up five. Don't let that discourage you; a better, if less easily quantifiable indicator, at least psychologically speaking, is noticing when your clothes start feeling looser.
HelpMyGrillfriend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't have enough time for the gym I find that these simple workout routines help me tone quite a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-9L0J_9qag This is an 8 minute ab workout and there are up to 5(?) levels I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWc8gHlAkoM This is a 12 minute chest workout also with X(not sure) amount of levels. You can do both of these routines without any extra weights and adding in cardio to these and you have a pretty good work out routine without the gym membership!
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome reply man! Fitness can be done almost anywhere.
Charliek4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a habit of making awkward eye contact though, any advice?
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who thinks it's awkward; you, or the person you're making it with? I feel like people too often don't ask this question of themselves. In your head is the only place a lot of these cringy or awkward moments live.
That being said however, eye contact can be guided with context clues. Don't maintain it all the time, but hold it during important moments. Good parts in stories, after a good joke, after both of you have a good laugh, to highlight how important something is to you. Use eye contact as you would use a smile, as a way to communicate, to say that you're interested, invested, and like what's going on.
It shouldn't be "We are talking so I should maintain eye contact", it should be more like "I made eye contact because of what they were saying".
Charliek4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a really good point. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
But what I meant when I asked was that I have a habit of making eye contact with strangers in public, especially when there are a lot of people around.
outRunning ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, but one of the primary benefits of the extra muscle is all the extra calories burned all the time. Lean mass is like your body's furnace and the more lean mass you have the more calories you burn even when you're at rest...
Oh and also, workouts (particularly high intensity ones) ramp up your metabolism (furnace) for several hours after the workout, so you're burning even more just doing what you'd normally be doing otherwise.
spydud22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. I love you.
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, it's mutual.
youngbathsalt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Went to the gym 5 times/week at the same time for 2 months straight. It still sucked and it was still a chore to go. How do I make it less shitty?
TownieMesiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've gotta find that in yourself through motivation. However I find the gym to be a lot more fun if I have a partner and make a few friends that I can shoot the shit with around the weight-room. If it's a matter of feeling tired or worn down give a half scoop of pre-workout a try 20 minutes before lifting. Pre-workout is a pretty non-jittery energy booster with a few other effects like helping your body absorb/use nutrients and promoting good blood flow.
You can also look into which lifts in particular effect your mood negatively. Going from no gym to 5 day a week split is a big jump, I worked from a 3 day split, to a 4 day split, and then into a 5 day split over a few months. Your body in the early stages of gym development needs more rest time between workouts to repair muscle fiber, otherwise you'll find yourself tired and worn out all the time.
bigblackkittie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if i do this, i'll have a serious muffin top
lineycakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i like your post, but hopefully people don't take this line incorrectly. a lot of people (girls especially) wear clothes that are too tight and are not flattering. maybe you are talking about dudes though. :)
HoodlumML ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dislike the phrasing of this, if you've decided that you want start going to the gym, you really have to commit to it. Don't drop by every few weeks and go for a walk on the treadmill. If you're not fully invested and are not GRINDING to make an actual change.. stop crowding the place up, it's busy enough as it is. More importantly you're wasting your own time.
PyrohawkZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
implying the plebian gyms here have more than one bench and one squat rack... argh
heathersphilosophy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Life advice right there.
This attitude applies to all areas of life and all ages, not just the gym right now. Thanks for this! I'm gonna write it down somewhere.
fenwaygnome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like you.
TownieMesiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's mutual ;)
Ilovesnorcula ยท 1258 points ยท Posted at 14:03:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile :)
ariiiiigold ยท 346 points ยท Posted at 15:52:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's nothing more heart-warming than a genuine smile. If I'm walking down the street and somebody smiles at me, whether it be one of those grand twinkle-in-eye beams or a more reserved slight-curve-of-the-lips crinkle of a smile, I always feel like a tsunami of warm goodness has crashed over me. It's that powerful.
Koopa_Troop ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 19:51:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's called an orgasm, yo.
DutchEndeavor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sounded like bedwetting to me. Or so I've heard...
Wyrmos ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:16:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But what if you're walking down the street and someone is like ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)โ
bluelink121 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:30:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...And then (ใค อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)ใค
Clipsterman ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:22:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's the problem with that. Some of us (including me) can't smile genuinely on command. When I try, it looks so fake that it's cringeworthy.
yodelocity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Practice in front of a mirror. It's all in the eyebrows.
jargoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Specifically, in a genuine smile the outer corners of your eyebrows and eyes should move toward each other
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:46:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well, next time I try to move my skull from between my eyes. Thanks for the advice!
*edit: formatting
Warqer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Warqer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
subwooferofthehose ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found Sheldon Cooper!
Aureolin ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:55:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:)
HoldMyWater ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:55:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if they're an ogre?
MitchMcConnellsShell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:00:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lpt request: how to smile at people without leading the creepers to believe you're interested. I work at a grocery store and I've resorted to grunting like a warthog while scanning things to make my disinterest abundantly clear.
jargoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A quick nod and then going back to what you were doing works to cut off the interaction
ViviWannabe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:33:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this interesting article about smiling and genuine vs polite smiles. It said that when a person flashes a genuine smile at another person, the second person anticipates the smile and starts to smile back before it becomes apparent that the first person is smiling, like we have smiling precognition or something. People only return polite smiles after seeing them, though, and you can instinctively tell the difference.
theultimatehero2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:03:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what you are saying is you need to actually be happy? I'm not happy to see everyone, but I want them to like me.
ViviWannabe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't necessarily have to be happy, but when you smile, mean it. If you're not happy to see someone, why the hell do you care what they think of you? Life's to short to try to impress people you don't like.
serialmom666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I have RBF.
computeraddict ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:20:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/b1Vjorjlon4
WhiteY515 ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 14:41:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you have bad teeth
poopellar ยท 155 points ยท Posted at 14:56:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile with mouth closed :)
Chillaxbro ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 15:14:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you have cracked lips
Crowlad ยท 351 points ยท Posted at 15:47:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear a paper bag with a smile drawn on it
man_mayo ยท 155 points ยท Posted at 16:01:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the Cleveland Browns fan
leggomuheggroll ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:52:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cleveland Browns fan here, and I can confirm this.
FuriousRajang ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:38:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation.
codeman-13 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:14:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation.
Devilhead2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation.
Brutalitarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation.
__SantaClaus__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for doubleplus nothing to this exchange of words.
downtowneil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who, us?!
Pyorrhea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paper bag with a blond wig and fake mustache, thank you very much.
kman273 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ohhhh hey, how you doin'
freemath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well... that's disturbing
kman273 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:) ur welcome.
Helms_Slave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus points if you write "I am not famous anymore" on it
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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johnnytaquitos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile with your eyes.
TheBlankState ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink some water.
camdoodlebop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile with your eyes
FarSightXR-20 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:53:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Always with mouth open. It is a sign that you love/accept yourself the way you are. There is nothing more attractive than that. You can't love others unconditionally if you can't love yourself unconditionally first.
blasterdude8 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:14:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People always say that whole "you have to love yourself first" thing but I don't get it. I'm not attractive. I'm not sure I ever will be. The most I can hope for at this point is to make myself less unattractive. I love "myself" as in my personality, but I despise my body / appearance as it is more or less the entire reason I have difficulty in relationships. But I feel extremely confident in my ability to love others. I love my dog. I love my family. I love my (few and kinda distant but still awesome) friends. I can't possibly judge others based on looks considering my own, and I greatly value those with a kind and genuine personality like my own. I try to always be grateful and generous when others are kind to me, especially since it doesn't happen very often. I'm admittedly overgenerous to those who I am romantically inclined, and though I am hesitant to say I've fully loved someone given I've never actually been in a real relationship, there's no question in my mind that if I could only find the right person willing to take a risk on me I could fully and unconditionally love someone, despite my own frustrations with myself.
FarSightXR-20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
To me it's more about self-esteem. It's about learning to be comfortable in your own skin. As soon as someone is hiding their teeth then it could be because something as insignificant as how there teeth look bothers them so much that they want to hide it. That's how I read into it. It makes me sad because then someone is stopping themselves from smiling just because of that. Then I know that something is bothering them and not letting their mind be at peace. If someone's bothered by their smile, then there might be other things about themselves that makes them feel bad too which might prevent them from acting how they actually want to in a situation.
Here is where we differ: you think hiding your teeth makes you less unattractive. I think showing your smile is more attractive than hiding your teeth.
porkpiery ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:22:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have bad teeth yet am constantly told I have a great smile; just like most attraction issues, confidence is key.
MAG7C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I had a friend in high school who didn't have much enamel on his teeth. They were pretty wrecked. Yet he had no problems getting women by the fistful (he was tall, as was I -- also slender, as I was not). And yes, full disclosure, I have seen his dick, it's pretty much average.nohomo He eventually got his heart broken and lost much of his mojo with the girls. He also got a new set of teeth.
IAmErinGray ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have "bad" teeth, they're just super crooked. I am super self conscious about it and anytime anyone tells me I have a nice smile I get all weird about it. I know I just need to have more confidence but it's really hard since I was teased when I was younger about it. Also, young children have a habit of pointing it out and it's very embarrassing.
walkingtheriver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same for me. It's the thing I'm most conscious about. It's obviously most attractive to have good teeth, but I guess it could be worse. At least I don't live in the US where they obsess over white and perfectly straight teeth.
IAmErinGray ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do live in the US, which is why I imagine little kids point it out. Crooked teeth are a bit of an anomaly to them, I suppose. That's usually when I get the most embarrassed because it gets so, so awkward.
I'm sure I'm the one who notices it the most but I can't help but feeling that my smile makes me unattractive. I've thought about getting my teeth fixed but it's expensive and I'm 24 now which seems too old for braces.
I used to cover my mouth every single time I laughed but I've at least stopped that habit.
walkingtheriver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can relate to that for sure. Every time I smile, I think about it. I'm 22 but it still feels too old to get braces... Here, you can get your teeth fixed for free if you're under 18. It's covered by the schooling system or something I think. But once you hit 18, you need to pull out your wallet and it's priced at $10,000 dollars to get braces. I'd considered saving for it or even taking a loan, and I still am. It's just so much money :(
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true there is something about the way Jewel smiles that makes her sexy and she does not have nice teeth
boobiesucker ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:30:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's the rest of her face.
iitouchedthebutt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:19:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Drew Barrymore is pretty attractive and she doesn't have perfect teeth. I think it's because it makes her seem more relatable and more..normal.
dryhumpback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, boobs.
iitouchedthebutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am a woman and I love boobs. My boobs, her boobs, his boobs, everyone's boobs!
jkeegan123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't she get that fixed? I thought she got that fixed.
http://rbk.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/14/50/548c018d7603e_-_rbk-jewel-kilcher.jpg
Nope. She did not get that fixed. But WHOOOO--WEEE is she beautiful.
tbirdguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.pinkisthenewblog.com/2012-06-07/jewel-shows-off-her-newly-straightened-teeth
UgaBoog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can always get some whitening strips!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Austin use the floss
I get it I have bad teeth!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really depends what "bad teeth" means to people. Just because someone's teeth is imperfect doesn't mean it's unattractive.
ThegreatPee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:32:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Move to Britain.
MudIsland ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:20:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might add: Smile with your entire face.
lou100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very true,
Firewolf420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Duchenne
2gig ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:34:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men who aren't smiling in their main online dating profile picture have more success than those who are smiling in that picture.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:45:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:56:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GAGAgadget ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:21:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a brooding sparkly teen vampire I concur
2gig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anecdote vs Statistic.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've just put up a picture of me looking way pissed off. Let's see how well it goes down...
SmartAlec105 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:56:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[citation needed]
2gig ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:03:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cited two minutes before you even asked for one, lol.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice
calm_chowder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've read this as well, but the difference is attracting a woman in the first place and keeping her.
The first thing a woman is going to see in your dating profile is your picture. So maybe the brooding look is more attractive, just like larger breasts are more attractive. However, once you actually start dating you'll do a lot better with a smile and a good nature to go along with it than if you try to be a brooding, frowny action hero. Just like big boobs might get more attention on dating sites, but if the girl is an insufferable narcissistic idiot most guys will take a pass on a serious relationship with her.
dlk272 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm gonna need a source on this please...
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 16:55:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit
2gig ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:58:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Menโs photos are most effective when they look away from the camera and donโt smile." Source
pacotes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:23:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an aside, that blog is fucking great to read. I have never bothered with online dating, but I find OKC's blog fascinating reading, because it is awesome numbers/stats science presented in a rather readable manner.
Cool stats blogs like that which make statistics interesting are always a great find, as often people are turned off stats by their school/college experiences of it being a dry, dull topic.
JimmyBoombox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Data relevant to okcupid.
Unknownentity7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/between-the-lines/201105/study-finds-smiling-men-are-less-attractive-women
Non-OKC study
Sandy_Emm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a 20 year old getting braces so I feel confident enough to smile in public by the time I'm 22
gunsnammo37 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is this not higher up? Everyone looks more attractive when they smile.
feo_ZA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you have a bad smile?
KomradeKoala ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've spent so long not smiling that when I actually DO smile it feels very strange and unnatural
wggn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
any way to improve my smile? my smile always looks shitty
Tinfoilpain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think of something funny - more often than not that smile will be attractive enough :)
My gotos are often reddit comments like this
Wets10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone?
http://imgur.com/gallery/VUAWW
KarmaFindsU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I came here to say this...smile...it is very powerful
Srapture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't necessarily good advice to guys for looking more attractive. There have been a few studies now doing things like having women rate images of guys' attractiveness from pictures 1-10, and they would consistently rate the same guy with a "smoulder" face (so, like, slightly angry looking) higher than the rating they gave him when smiling, so one might be better off not smiling if they want to appear more attractive to people out and about. It's probably different in a more personal setting.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was this study done right after all those vampire books came Out?
Srapture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would reading a book effect how someone perceives faces? I don't think it's related to that. Certainly could be. Then again, I don't have the sources, so what I say means nothing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a joke. The vampire book craze had all those moody brooding teens didn't it?
Srapture ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get what you're saying, but surely it would require the films for girls to find that attractive. Don't think a description of a mopey face would quite cut it :P
SmittyFromAbove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Studies show girls actually are more attracted to the brooding look on men you have led 300 people astray....
WhiteSuburbia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude! Do you have no respect for women?
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-feminist-new-year-resolutions-smile-20150105-story.html
Seriously though, be careful who you ask to smile in person. You might catch a wrath nowadays.
BeyonceIsBetter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not my fault I suffer from resting bitch face
KneeDeepInTheDead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i dont know how to smile
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mind your own business, how about that!
wuzzum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how :?
balloons321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Question, what do you do if your teeth aren't that nice? I have to false incisors (born without the adults) on a retainer which has very noticeable metal clamps on the sides. Sometimes when I smile I'll catch people glance at them and immediately become nervous.
oxideseven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posted the same thing, because I thought it wasn't on here. I'm surprised how far down this is.
I'd take a good smile over almost all the other things people do with their faces to look attractive/hot/sexy. Just smile.
BZLuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus this is WAY too far down the page.
I don't care if you have permanent resting bitch face, at least turn the corners of your mouth up a bit. Be conscious of it as you go throughout your day. No, not a big shit eating psycho grin, but just the slightest of smiles is very noticeable.
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You haven't seen me smile, it's eerily reminiscent of Mr Burns' smile.
fourgoals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is this not at the top of the thread?
BuckLaughlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a study somewhere that said women don't find guys who smile all the time attractive.
mister-rik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't know why this isn't top comment. you look at a person with a smile you think: fun times, confidence, achievement, babies I have with this person will also have fun times, confidence, achievement
mainman879 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cannot smile, whenever I try it always ends up like a grimace or my lips are simply flattish, ive tried my entire life but I can just never get a "good" smile.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no one has ever called someone who smiles ugly!
Cashrunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't tell me what to do.
seventhaccount005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
studies found that women tend to be more attracted to men who smile less, don't know if men are the same though
coolmap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the issue is, my smile is ugly
SchindlersFist712 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I smile. A lot. Mostly cause I'm happy, but also when I'm nervous or uncomfortable. A lot of time I just have nothing to say so I stick a smile on my face. Anyway, I smile a lot!
When I worked in a factory, I caught a lot of shit for it. I had the nickname 'smiler', said sarcastically or endearingly depending on who you're talking to. I got on with most people. My boss though, constantly called me out on it and said I was 'undermining' him and called me a joke. He'd point out the most miserable, down-and-out people and say I should be more like them as they take their job seriously.
When I worked in sales, I had a similar nickname, 'smiley'. People are creative. But everyone would compliment me on it, and encourage me to stay positive.
I guess the point of the rambling is - it's really weird how one facial expression can be perceived so differently in two different environments.
Ashuvain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But smiles are so hard to do properly.
MotoTheBadMofo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I look like a fucking idiot when i smile.
I'd rather look like a serial killer thx.
mifune_toshiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found Kilgrave!
oree94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kilgrave?
TheMilvusmilvus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smiling reduces the other persons inhibitions, and will make them feel more comforatble around you. I addition they're more likely to reciprocate this friendly action and be more welcoming. Plus it aids the release of oxytocin which is important in relationship formation
emrau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
are you saying "you'd be prettier if you smiled"? Because everyone who's ever said that to me has made me want to never smile ever again. I don't know you, I do what I fucking want, and I don't give a shit if you think I'm "pretty", random old creep at the grocery store.
redditmode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one that automatically smiled when reading this?
-eDgAR- ยท 1572 points ยท Posted at 14:51:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put some high powered magnets in your pockets.
boobiesucker ยท 917 points ยท Posted at 15:29:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did that. I was skeptical but tried to remain positive, but it didn't work as I only attracted negative people.
phrantastic ยท 504 points ยท Posted at 16:15:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flip the magnets around.
ReasonablyBadass ยท 685 points ยท Posted at 18:59:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AND NOW I'M HOVERING! GREAT! JUST GREAT!
funkmastamatt ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:33:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hovering is a very attractive feature in a mate.
AndyWinds ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:45:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the next logical step of evolution.
abstractwhiz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:57:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For best results, add a cape and have it flutter in the wind.
t__wolfe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:32:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alpha as fuck.
crespire ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:22:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY.
the_master_of_memes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:49:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try to align yourself parallel to the ground. If nothing else, at least you can name yourself a hoverboard and be closer to the truth than the alternative
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure to stay face up and ask girls if they would like to try out the hover board.
the_master_of_memes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can live my whole life without having a girl's foot crushing my (maybe) erect penis, thank you very much
ShaneDAWS0N ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try these Do-It-Yourself hover shoes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40S8G2ZuRpE&t=2m7s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Falls flat on face
stuffbecausestuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:59:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds reasonably badass to me.
wildabeast96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck yeah for Reddit mobile
CoolMachine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Finally, a hoverboard that works.
oodsigma8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
be more positive dammit
AlekRivard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, Hovering, I'm Dad.
Hellozan11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hovering sounds pretty cool though
FairyOfTheStars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the spirit! You're already more positive!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you positive?
Fapiness ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment definitely pulled me in.
Culinarytracker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:14:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did that. I was optimistic but started to be all negative. It kinda worked, I attracted positive people but they pissed me off.
anomalousBits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I'm only getting North people.
Lazay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you really want to be that negative all the time though?
Nutritionisawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does that work?
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:42:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:00:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... your negatives would be outwards therefore repelling the negatives and attracting positives...
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:09:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions clear, Am a charged black hole now.
phrantastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If boobiesucker only attracted negative people, logically flipping the magnets would attract positive.
Speedswiper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets work with North and South, not negatives and positives...
VLeeAzn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah somehow the only ones I've attracted now all have knives in their pocket.
kippy3267 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also foils credit card thieves plans!
hugthemachines ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 17:11:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure you don't put them in both your pockets or they may squish something that is between them.
romulusnr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:53:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if you have balls of steel.
the__itis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:58:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck it, I'm bi-polar anyways
xenonblast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is talking about a penis guys.
Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what I'm worried about them crushing at all...
That things soft and pliable and would take some serious force from both sides to cause damage.
jonincalgary ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:31:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When hanging drywall I did this and let a handful of screws stick to the outside of my pockets (didn't have a tool belt at the time).
ThunderCuuuunt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:39:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a high-powered magnet in your pocket, or am I just happy to see you?
btown731 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear. Wiped all credit cards and electronics in pockets...
Dredd_Pirate_Barry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You repulse me
MonsieurMonkey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:17:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions not clear. Stuck to a metal pole.
devosion ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:13:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I erased my hard drive. OP owes me a new hard drive.
criticallyAnalytical ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scrolled down looking for this comment.
Am not disappointed.
toastfacegrilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also you could eat a lot more calories to increase your mass
goddessofentropy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, eat more and work out less. The more weight you put one, the stronger your gravitational attractiveness will become.
isotopesNmolecules ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this what you call a pussy magnet
bostonbruins922 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And now my phone is ruined. Thanks...
Essem7631 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets actually have no effect on phones
CommonIon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But there are no magnetic monopoles so you'll also be just as negative :(
Bandin03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For best results, put one large neodymium magnet in each front pocket.
SargeMacLethal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My phone! :(
Ufkuiwontdowatchatel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magnets? How do they work?:
darthbarracuda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good way to wipe the memory of the phones of the people standing next to you.
PleasantSensation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im 7 and this is hilarious
chikinlikin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:11:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You saved the best till last here.
LordNoodles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once bought some torpedo magnets at the Museum of science in London aNd put them in my pocket.
Had to buy a new ticket for the underground.
SkepticShoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One time I actually did this. It destroyed my laptop.
listerinebreath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Avoid telling lame jokes.
HiMyNameIsBoard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:32:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when you were reddit famous?
[deleted] ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 16:38:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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CaptainUnderrated ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Emphasis. EMPHASIS.
mytwin_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:47:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
who is gene and why are people greeting him much in this thread
DiarrheaMarinade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Location location LOCATION.
battleporridge ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:31:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
anachronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower, brush, floss, and fucking shave.
Even if you have a beard guys, touch up your cheeks and neck every day or two. When you don't, you just look homeless.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, Jean!
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi Gene!
TreeArbitor ยท 594 points ยท Posted at 19:59:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My trick? Go to grocery store, fill bag with cosmetics and health foods. Get home, dump everything out of bag. Put bag on my head. Continue to do nothing different.
mytwin_ ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:50:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shia labeouf?
Daerdemandt ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:59:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's following you
PandaLovingLion ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:19:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About 30 feet back
Kryptof ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:27:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He gets down on all fours and breaks into a sprint
Daerdemandt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:21:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's gaining on you.
tarareidstarotreadin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's not letting his dreams be dreams.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:47:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TreeArbitor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:12:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks a whole lot better than the original
lolimserious ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
brilliant, thanks
jd_coud9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a bold strategy Cotton.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't help it. I laugh every fucking time.
CoolMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With Peapod and FreshDirect, you don't even have to make the trip anymore.
sablesable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey if you're a girl you already have higher standards than me.
[deleted] ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 14:10:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Shfiend ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:39:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In other words: we are all human beings. We all eat and poop like normal homo sapiens. That hot girl at the corner? Yes, her poop is stinky as fuck. Now, why don't you talk to her like a normal human being. She's not as intimidating as you think she would be.
badsoul69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
more like: don't treat others with superiority or inferiority. i, for example, like to be given constructive feedback, but some of the people i know hate it. i can't treat them as i'd like to be treated.
Mccmangus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer to pass unnoticed, this should be easy.
CoffeeZombieV ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At work everyone smiles when talking to one another. It's awesome going into work feeling like crap and ending up smiling from ear to ear an hour later
Janube ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once you're comfortable with this, start treating people the way they want to be treated (within reason, of course).
I can be perfectly fine with someone being an asshole to me, but despite that, I realize most people aren't okay with that, and I go out of my way to try to treat them how I believe they wish to be treated.
Rusork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What most people I know talk about, I have no clue of what to say. I usually end up smiling and nodding.
If by chance they get to any of my topics, I end up talking alone.
WorkUpvoter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have no clue what to say because it's something you have no clue about, then it's perfect for conversation. Do you know why it's perfect? It's perfect because you have GENUINE questions; all you have to do is ask the questions. Most people love talking, so help facilitate by asking them questions.
ThatWasEasy
calebmke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But there's also the obvious point of being generally interested in what the other is discussing. If all they have is what's ripe in pop culture and you can't stand to care about it, make nice and try to change the subject. If that doesn't work remember "you can't please all of the people all of the time".
WorkUpvoter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assumed it was for someone Rusork was genuinely interested in because this thread is about being more attractive. If Rusork is solely interested in the person because he/she is hot, then I don't have solid advice for a person like that because I'm not that kind of person.
Stevey854 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I want to be treated based on who I am? That seems like the most reasonable way to treat anybody.
datchilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you really try doing this it will work and it will be beautiful. It worked for me and made me very happy.
[deleted] ยท 218 points ยท Posted at 19:56:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop smoking, if you smoke. Better skin, better smell, more money for clothes. Wish me luck. Day 5 now. By the way you're all blessed with a fabulous look.
PandaLovingLion ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:26:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun Tip: However often you bought cigarettes/weed/whatever you're quitting, keep the routine. But instead of buying it, put the money into a container you can't see inside of (no glass jars. or do, whatever). A tin with a hole in it for example. Give it a year and open it, surprise fortune! Or if you fail to quit, you can value your achievement by time length and money saved, and try to beat it next time.
That goes for anything you're quitting. My tin is really heavy from quitting vending machines at college, but I don't wanna open it yet
i-opener ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:52:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I always used a debit/cc. I feel your message, I just can't practically adapt it.
mwashu66 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:38:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Open a money market account with your bank and transfer the money there instead.
Jigitynthejungle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:41:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You got this! The beginning is the hardest, but you can pull through! Don't think of it as quitting, think of it as a lifestyle change. Think of all that extra money you can waste on something else...
bigfootlives823 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:22:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get it! Stay strong. Quitting is an absolute mother effer at first but it gets easier. I was quit for about a year and a half until I fell off the wagon about 6 months ago. It just takes one to make you think you can handle having one "now and then".
I hopped back on the quitter train a few days earlier than you did, today is number 8 so I'm right there with you. You can do this. The first the days are the worst so you're through the hard part, it gets easier from here. Remember though, no matter how easy it gets, you're never more than a couple of lame excuses away from going back.
might_be_myself ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:49:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Day 5 means the nicotine addiction is already gone, the only remaining sticking points are entirely mental. You've already done it!! Good for you!
NetworkDisconnected ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:29:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Day 5 for me too. We fucking got this!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Four for you, Glen Coco!
RocketPawnch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:03:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck. Keep it up!
GeneralStealthG ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey keep it up man, it can be tough but you gotta power through
shiivan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:35:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
5 days? That basically means that hard part is over mate! Congrats! I will follow in your footsteps soon.
fandandy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:46:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soon? Why not just start now man? You'll continue putting it off until it's to late. It'll be worth it. In the famous words of Shia Labeouf "JUST DO IT"
shiivan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha you are completely right!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I quit a little over two months ago. Stick with it mate, the extra money really is nice :)
SundayMorningPJs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You got this! I know nothing about smpking, but I know a think or two about encouragement and persistancd, so I just wanted to say, you're gonna be fine. If you ever worry about how you're gonna feel, as someone who battles themselves internally on the hourly, just think, it's just your brain making it up. Think of those thoughts as an entirely different being and ignore it.
https://youtu.be/g2Xs9Z5gsHU
But instead of "gay" think more like "needing to smoke"
sablesable ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great dedication /u/AlecLeCat keep up the good work!
kevinrythm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the 'No Smokers Zone'
starlight347 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
good luck, keep it up!
SpaceShuttleFan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best of luck - this Internet stranger believes in you!
0j0s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the best to you! I've managed to decide that from now on I only smoke when I'm drinking. And I sort of want to reduce drinking to once/twice a week. So far so good.
tek1024 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've got this! In another few days the smells and tastes you'll experience will feel like coming home.
cnidobyte ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:39:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your resolve to quit is beautiful!
whatisboom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck! I, for one, won't date anyone who smokes.
Ryepodz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You dont need luck. You already quit
iamagenie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:05 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Day 7 for me. But I have a vape so I'm cheating I guess
SoCo_cpp ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 16:50:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be positive and happy. No body likes a Debbie-Downer and even unhappy people flock to happy people to leach off of their positive vibes.
SickleSandwich ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:04:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not too happy. Those people are creepy. Like overly happy people working in the industrial industry - they're either liars or morons. People aren't supposed to be that happy.
Aleski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure this is more applicable to parties or nights out at bars. Nobody wants to drink with Mopey McMoperson.
SickleSandwich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh okay...
...I don't go to those. Too much happiness in one place. Can't take that much positive energy all at once. and totally not because I'm never invited
Aleski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone alone a few times. It takes practice but after a while it can be fun sitting at the bar and meeting strangers. You potentially meet some really cool people :)
And hey it doesn't have to just be bars. It can be w/e you're into. Concerts - parks - beach. Find something you really enjoy yourself and then meet others with similar interests.
SickleSandwich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true! But... I don't drink at all, and I hate pop music and such. I... need to get out more. Studies, though, I suppose.
Aleski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate pop music too. Doesn't stop me from going to metal and electronic shows and dancing my ass off. I only referenced going out to bars because it seems to be on of the most common outings for folks, but totally do you man. All it is is finding something you enjoy, putting yourself out there, and practicing. Never give up :)
SickleSandwich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:14:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will do! :D Just gotta stop being fat, which is beginning to...
take shape
...sorry. Not good at not being a git.
Aleski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, made me smile :)
And hey, not drinking is a good start to getting healthier!
SickleSandwich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just realised, you're too happy. This is suspicious.
(For serious though: Thanks for the encouragement, and the nice words.)
Aleski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I suffer from mild depression and other mental illnesses I don't want to post on my main account. Cheering up and encouraging others is a way for me to feel happier about myself.
CoolMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a good indie coffee shop to hang out in. Join a book club, gym, hiking club. The fire dept and EMS always need help. Lots of ways to come out of your shell :-)))
SickleSandwich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:39:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All good ideas. Thanks!
CoolMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Too happy" sounds like people who act happy but really aren't.
If someone's genuinely content, glad or joyful, it shows naturally. No work involved.
SickleSandwich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:41:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aha, actually, I do know some people I would deem as 'creepily happy'. To repost something I said on a previous thread about them:
Regarding the anger, it was an 'irrational hatred' thread, haha.
EDIT: How doth thy format?
CoolMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody likes a downer, but nobody likes phonies either.
Whatever your emotions, be genuine without being overbearing. Don't project your crap or your awesomeness onto someone who might be having a different kind of day--or life--than you.
That's where being considerate and kind enters the picture. That's what really matters.
Ahhmyface ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 22:31:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use your body to do things.
You don't have to become a gym rat. But do something. Martial arts, sports, yoga. Whatever. Your balance will improve. Your posture will improve. Your metabolism will improve. Your sleep will improve. Your mood will improve. It's a magic fucking bullet. Never stop.
[deleted] ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 14:13:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Switch things up. I'm usually a jeans and shirt kind of person. But when I put on a dress, or even a skirt, it not only gives me a little confidence boost to be wearing something out of my norm. But people tend to notice. That little confidence boost can be picked up on by other people.
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 15:27:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely notice when a girl makes a change like that in fashion. A jeans and t-shirt girl is my type but seeing them in a skirt on occasion can really turn heads
GrammatonYHWH ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 17:14:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Works the same when a guy does it.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:59:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I love whipping out my skirt before heading out with the rest of the dudes.
GringodelRio ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:16:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a kilt!
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:25:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine's a skirt!
GringodelRio ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:34:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, sorry. I didn't notice the lace.
Ahem... how you doin'?
Hantoki ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:34:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm doing alright. But this G-string is really digging into my balls.
Stevey854 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But remember. If you don't have Scottish heritage, kilts are not cool.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:27:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what I hear they're pretty cool.
JohnnyOnslaught ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:13:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to imagine you're a guy, makes this post very entertaining.
boredtacos19 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously thought it was a guy at first, it made me stop and think for a second.
mytwin_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
proceeds to turn off the lights
dude wtf what are ya doin
switchin thangs up
knee slapping intensifies
arbitrarycharacters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also a jeans and t-shirt kind of guy. If I go naked, would that work?
greendaygal540 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is such a struggle for me. I have mild social anxiety and when I dress nice it kills me because people notice.
Absolvo_Me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, people notice, but most people I know would just weirdly ask what I was dressed up for...
[deleted] ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 18:56:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. I've known many people over the years that turned out to be gorgeous as fuck when they lost weight.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:28:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
And if you're ugly having a nice enough body will make up for it.
On a serious note. going from super skinny to looking like I lift has made a huge difference in interactions with girls. They approach me sometimes now.
Being fit also gives you a huge boost in confidence.
EquipLordBritish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You say that like you don't lift. =P
lizper ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:14:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously!! Weight loss and just being in shape make such a huge difference in everything from how the person looks (obviously) to how they carry themselves. Just look at Chris Pratt for example!
Everyone keeps giving these B.S. feel-good answers of "Oh be confident" or "Be positive and happy". Those are great and all but they're so damn vague and trite. Let's face it... you can act like a Disney princess but nobody's going to be attracted to you if you look like Honey Boo Boo's mom and smell like you just walked out of a dumpster.
Put the pizza down, join a gym, take a shower... you're welcome.
CrashXXL ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I make fun of my boss. "You didn't realize you were ugly until you lost weight."
paranoidpuppet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:31:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're grossly underweight, in which case, gain some weight. Not too much, though.
The_Teambagger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:56:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does one gain weight? I've tried so many times and can never gain a pound. I eat so much and don't really do much (lol) but I stay way under weight. I'm 5' 10" and like 110 pounds.
I mean, I don't hate my body but I would love to be at least bigger than the average middle schooler.
Trezi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:02:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Protien bars. Whole milk. And pbjs.
jamesbiff ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:12:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity have you ever tracked your calories per day?
My brother is an inch shorter than you but same weight and same deal. He eats a TON of crap, but I tracked what he ate for a few days and it turns out whilst it looks like he eats a lot, and eats a sheer variety of food, his serving sizes were relatively small so never ends up eating enough to gain any weight.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:58:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try switching things you currently eat for more calorie dense versions of the same thing. Trade skim milk for whole milk, margarine/cooking spray for butter, eat fattier cuts of meat, etc. Eat more avocados and nuts. Be sure to eat a lot of different veggies and fruits as well, to get all your nutrients. Also, make sure you're actually eating enough. I have a tendency to feel like I'm overeating because I'm constantly snacking, but actually eat far less than I'm supposed to. I've noticed the same problem in most of my friends who think they can eat whatever without gaining weight.
hopetheydontfindme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:56:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat a peanut butter jelly sandwich before bed
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
count calories c: try something like an extra 300~500kcals a day from your TDEE (do recalculate when gaining weight until goal). To gain weight you must eat more calories than you burn, you probably don't eat as much as you think (calorie wise)
plsfight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. 170 cm and 92 pounds. Particularly with the new wave of expectation for girls to have larger butts and breasts, while I'm sitting here with bones and a chest smaller than a 10 year old's.
TwistedPerception ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:58 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like my soulmate! Everyone has someone they are into.....
coldbeerandbaseball ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I lost a lot of weight since college, hasn't helped me much. Its like sure I'm healthier but I don't care about living longer or not having heart disease or diabetes when I'm older, I just wanna be more attractive, damnit!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The inverse is true too
Dude13371337 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:49:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and, less so, the converse.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:38:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
unless you live in a country where being larger is considered more attractive, then put on weight.
Musalink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, I'm sorry you got downvoted.
vlslatto ยท 378 points ยท Posted at 14:03:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident in who you are.
RIPGeorgeHarrison ยท 475 points ยท Posted at 16:19:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not very sure I can do that though.
RockGotti ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 16:27:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try to be confident in who you are.
[deleted] ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 17:05:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not very sure I can do that though.
kheltar ยท 306 points ยท Posted at 17:12:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretend you're confident in who you are.
fool_on_a_hill ยท 233 points ยท Posted at 17:23:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
theeeere it is
Kushkaki ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:41:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till ya make it
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:25:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it until it becomes habit :)
"I can't be that person" You can, just fake it enough so it becomes the norm for you.
BaronTatersworth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step one: Fake it. Step two: Make it.
It works. For some crazy, quasi-magical reason, it works. I've only managed to sortof make that particular transition successfully, but the difference between my mindset before and my mindset now is very real. It's awesome, and despite my anxious nature, it improves somewhat every day.
wggn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:53:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pretending to be confident is 90% of being confident
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:05:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually the real tip, I was horribly insecure at a point in my life. Just pretending to be confident actually made me more confident. Being a bit more confident allowed to pretend to be even more sure of myself. Rinse and repeat.
Edit: Try not to let it go to your head though, nobody likes arrogance :)
johnnybiggles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So try to be confident in who you're not?
JarJarFett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's what you want, ye
spamky23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till you make it
OddworldCrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My life motto
TheRedComet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not very sure I can do that though.
m4ur3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem, let's just try it and see what happens, I'll be trying it too :)
mountainstainer_45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't believe in yourself. Believe in me! believe in the mountainstainer_45 who believes in you!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:41:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Do or do not. There is no try"
Master Yoda
andrak7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do, or do not. There is no try
stealingyourpotatos ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:35:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fake it till you make it
onedoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not faking, it's practice.
WanderingSpaceHopper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then be something you can be confident about and don't be a bitch about it.
AlexisDeTocqueville ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then become someone better
Mark7A ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just smile then
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Act like it. Walk with your head up/tilted back (not like a complete douch though), shoulders back and realize that most people you talk to are too worried about their insecurities to notice whatever causes yours
LimblessOrphan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
then learn too
Tim_WithEightVowels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks me too.
Powerfury ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:56:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confident that I am a depressive, lazy, unmotivated and not interesting as a person.
How does this help me? :/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confident people of the thread, answer to this please
JarJarFett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drop the focus on living a life catered to meeting a desired perspective and do what interests you. Nothing criminal though.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:18:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you are a piece of shit. Then stop doing that
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:01:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but this is poor advice; there's nothing here to take action on or to help you achieve such a vague goal.
vlslatto ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:14:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, I will be more specific. In my experience, I've found that both men and women are attracted to confident people. People who like themselves, what they do, and who they are. It's easier to find love if you love yourself.
Therefore, if you're not confident in who you are, why? What don't you like about yourself? I'm not talking physically, but personality wise, what do you like/not like about yourself? If there's something specific holding you back, change it. If not, embrace yourself and be confident with your decisions. It will make you more appealing to a partner.
jugemscloudmc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People are attracted to confident people because attractive people tend to gain confidence over their life through positive social reinforcement. Not because they just unconditionally love themselves or what they do or who they are. Actually, there are numerous attractive yet insecure people, but their insecurity is often hidden by their social success- people simply treat them better (the "halo effect.") When an unattractive person acts confident they usually come across as arrogant or "creepy."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have to disagree with that. As a super nerdy guy I don't shy away from that especially on dates. I love who I am but not I'm a narcissistic way. I'm honest about who I am and what I enjoy because if I'm with someone I want them to like me for who I am. All my friends enjoy being around me and have respected who I am as a person and I've successfully brought it over when it comes to dating.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:44:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the words I live by tbh. I'm a nerdy guy and play that card with everyone I meet. Not that I talk about all the nerdy things I enjoy with dates but I'm honest about what I enjoy and show some passion in doing so, regardless of how nerdy it might be if it were to come up in conversation. What people like to see in you is passion and more so being honest with youself and them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You missed my point a but, they just didn't give any means to achieve such a broad goal.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're either comfortable in your skin or you're not. No one can help you achieve it, it's all about you coming to terms with yourself. Sorry
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:13 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's bull; otherwise what's the point of this entire thread? All I wanted to say was that they didn't provide any concrete steps for advice. Cheers.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:00:40 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's believing in yourself, no one can do that for you. It's vague advice but it's the mind set you want this wasn't a thread on how to become this person, it's what they look for. Sorry these aren't the answers "you're" looking for.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:32:35 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're done here; no need to continue. Cheers.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:41:05 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey man believe in yourself." -"No that's such bad advice." ~sucks to suck
LupusSolaris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But who am I? How do I build something on top of nothing?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You start at nothing and work your way up. Everyone's somebody
DiarrheaMarinade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I don't know who I am?
SpookyDissonance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You make it sound so easy for an insecure loser like me.
mkameli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the first step towards this is accepting who you are, which might mean first coming to terms with your failures, weaknesses, and scars from your past.
superhanson2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am confident in who I am. I'm confident I'd be unappealing to people outside of reddit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
....and then get plastic surgery.
I_Might_Be_Confident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:/
vlslatto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha apparently there are a lot of lost souls out there... not the responses I anticipated.
Nicky_C ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:05:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is because you guys used that AI attractive test on /r/InternetIsBeautiful isn't it?
aeam513 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:41:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It told me my best pictures were nice and ok. :c lol.
yardbird_ ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 18:34:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is going to sound silly, but honestly, just being a decent human being. Don't say anything behind someone's back you wouldn't say to their face. Treat people with respect. Own up to mistakes. Be someone people look up to for those reasons, because in the end it's not going to matter how physically attractive you are. Some of the people I've been most attracted to haven't been lookers, but they are genuinely kind people and the kind of people I want around.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is hard. i made a mistake and it took me a full minute of thinking if i should admit im wrong or not before i said anything
Jellooooo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to own up to it quickly and move on to whatever needs to be addressed.
A quick "Oh fuck, that's on me, man. My bad" never hurt.
TheCamPlays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That won't quite work for that body in the dumpster.
Jellooooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the thought that counts.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
its a little different if youre already in the middle of a heated argument :(
Jellooooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmmm. True, actually.
Lancer506 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, if you're a decent person and people know that, you'll get a lot more popular where it counts.
Squibbles1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:55 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the Canadian
Ianchez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sry to say this, but it isnt enough.
Source: 8 years single for being just a nice guy ;).
ponyboyQQ ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 18:13:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've said it before;
Smell good, but not overbearing
Be hygienic
Be nice to kids and animals
Additional things:
Smile genuinely
Listen with passion, even if you don't give a shit
Speak and walk with the confidence of an army behind you
jkv811 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what do I do with my arms when I walk??
ponyboyQQ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:14:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep them completely strait.
I'm totally kidding.
Walk as you do naturally. If you walk with your chest broad and you walk with confidence, your arms will swing naturally. Don't think too much about it, otherwise you'll walk like an idiot.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What show was that with the lady who walked with her arms straight? Was it Slug on IASIP? Was it Seinfeld?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that was Seinfeld
jkv811 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually get so self conscious I cross them when I walk, which I'm sure looks weird.
Hawklet98 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it definitely looks weird.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:06:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been said to walk like I am carrying rolled up carpets under my arms.
I don't know if this is a particularly bad thing, and people have said that I walk like I think I'm "hard" which I suppose makes me look confident, maybe too confident.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The army bit is everything and the hardest thing for the people who need it the most.
ornionbelt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On that first point, my brother is without a doubt someone who wears way too much deodorant and perfume thinking it's better with more. It's really not, that shit reeks.
Tutorem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well said! This does however not work if discussing lack of payments to sketchy people and do not in fact have an army behind you!
MotoTheBadMofo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alright. What kinda drugs do i need to take for that?
cheetahkeys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. It is the biggest turn-off to see someone be mean to a pet or refuse to interact with a kid.
satanaintwaitin ยท 442 points ยท Posted at 14:14:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Get a haircut. Buy new, nicer shoes that don't cost 19.99. Invest in some button downs that are form fitting - not baggy. Invest in slim-fit jeans or chinos.
GotHamm ยท 357 points ยท Posted at 15:07:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A nice fitting pair of jeans looks good with almost anything. Girls also like seeing nice butts too so don't get them too loose.
satanaintwaitin ยท 396 points ยท Posted at 15:18:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do value a great boy butt.
[deleted] ยท 265 points ยท Posted at 15:58:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing my ass is flatter than a counter top.
satanaintwaitin ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 15:59:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do your squats and eat your vegetables.
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 17:44:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But, veggies don't have the calories I need to meet my daily goal to gain. :(
satanaintwaitin ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:52:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower that shit in cheese, you'll be golden.
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:57:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheese, mayo, and peanut butter are probably flowing through my veins in place of blood right now. Bulking season 12 months of the year, especially after losing 9 pounds from being sick.
satanaintwaitin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:06:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tasty.
Jealousy123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's more fat than protein. Especially mayo which is like 99% fat.
JakeStateFarm182 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:25:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But vaggies have the micronutrients you need to feel good. Trust me. For a whole week, actually eat 5 servings a day and chug water. It really does help.
Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about instead I just take a multivitamin?
ForestOnFIRE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:28:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Multivitamins are a lie. Eat. Yo. Greens
Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
....
You'll have to forgive me if I'm not swayed by your compelling argument.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard for your body to absorb the nutrients from a multivitamin, and you end up pissing a lot of them out. You also need the dietary fiber from vegetables. The antioxidants don't hurt, either. Not to mention that eating veggies means you'll eat less other crap, which is always a bonus.
ForestOnFIRE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's an article http://consumer.healthday.com/cognitive-health-information-26/brain-health-news-80/experts-don-t-waste-your-money-on-multivitamins-683104.html ...there are others that are similar :)
ForestOnFIRE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus vitamins are all micronutrients so you don't need that much of them.
Jealousy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel bad using such a harsh word but this argument is just... stupid.
You still need 100% of your daily recommended value. And multi have usually from 50-100% of your needs depending on the vitamin or mineral in question. If you're likely to encounter the nutrient in even a shitty diet they include less so you don't go overboard. If it's a vitamin that is non-fat soluble it'll lean towards giving you extra because you'll just safely excrete the extra through urine.
Multi's work for certain lifestyles and diets and according to all these anti-vitamin article I've been reading mine is one that multis work for.
ForestOnFIRE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:03 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll give you that I picked a bad article, I just chose one at random...there is a paper I found on it. But essentially if you already have a balanced diet then you shouldnt need a multivit, they are expensive and you could find better alternatives that do a better job.
Phoenixx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Multivitamins aren't as readily absorbed into the body. You'll pee out a lot of it. Foods that are rich in nutrients contain other compounds that help the body process them, like dietary fiber.
JakeStateFarm182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried it, but veggies seem to work much better. I wish I knew more science. You can see for yourself.
GeekBeardy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do Smolov and GOMAD, and you'll be good.
chubbyurma ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:23:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ViviWannabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Veggies are important for gains. They act as a buffer so that your food digests more slowly. The result is that more energy is utilized from your proteins and carbs. That means more becomes muscle and less becomes fat.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just have to start doing work outs that don't involve the pool.
traksta15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You and me both
lilnomad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Sometimes it doesn't seem like even a million squads would you get you a big butt. Playing baseball is the key to this. When I played baseball like 8 years ago, I had it, and now I do not.
pkfighter343 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta do weighted squats
Jason6677 ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 17:11:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ass is huge, even though I'm skinny. I always used to be conscious of it. Now imma rock that shit
satanaintwaitin ยท 212 points ยท Posted at 17:15:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
get it boo
Stormhammer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:40:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man with a bubble butt, do it. Women love a man with something ti grab.
KaiserPhil ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:22:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does a gut count as something to grab?
Stormhammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends - I've had some women wish me to keep my slight paunch since its more cuddly -_-
KaiserPhil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I need to find one of these.
Stormhammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're usually older. Not quite the gym rat, but not a fatty either.
Actually, a large majority of women at least state they don't want the ripped 6-pack guy, because they're not soft enough to lay their head on lol.
BossietheCow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:32:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lemme just doubt that for a sec.
Draksnapas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what we say but it's really just because we don't want to feel self conscious about our own bodies in comparison. Looks-wise an athletic type (not super cut bodybuilder) is best.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it depends on who the body belongs to. Some bodies look good on some people, and some don't. I usually care about the aesthetic of the entire person.
Worst_Lurker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:50:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a big ass, and it was the first thing my now wife noticed about me.
Finding pants that fit is another thing though
Cheerful-Litigant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How you doin?
pamplemouss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An itty-bitty waist with a round thing in your face is not only appreciated by men.
sammaster9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wear baggy pants for this very reason. I hate it.
t3irelan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did/Do you happen to play hockey? I always hated my big ole booty and wondered why I was the only one in my family with the badunkadunk gene...Then came the realization that I played hockey for my entire life and that booty cushion I once hated is a direct result of the sport I love.
Also, chicks started to grab it a lot...so that kinda clued me in.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:58:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not always a good thing
butthemsharksdoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What could possibly be bad about it?
ProspectiveQuant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That must be wonderful. I have no ass despite having curves...the worst of all worlds.
ilikebourbon_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bonobos for the win.
classy_stegasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to see you got a good bout of confidence from today!
NeverEndingRadDude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do it. As a larger guy that lacks a butt, my pants give me 'elephant butt'. While I'm envious, I am working on changing that, no matter how much squats make me ache.
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You rock that booty, Donald.
CPTJackieDaniels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tip I learned from the gay community; big, round butt means he needs the balance for a big D. So be proud of your bootys, boys
onetwo3four5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:18:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Queue Tina's "uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh"
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So serious question. I lift weights a lot and have a pretty damn good size butt. Can I assume that girls look at my ass as much as I look at theirs?
satanaintwaitin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:39:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck yeah you can. I guarantee if you have a nice, plump tooshie that girls check it out. Especially if you are wearing gym shorts/fitted jeans. Unf!
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a plump muscle butt so I try to wear stuff that shows it any way I can haha. I worked hard for it so why not show it off a bit?
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, the female people like guy butts ? Holy Fucking Shit. It all makes sense now.
For those wondering. In highschool there was a girl I really liked, but I thought she was teasing me about my butt all the time. Because, well she never shut up about it. Every time she saw me, she made a remark about my butt, and how it fit into jeans.
I mistook that for sarcasm, and might have lost my temper at her. I didn't know girls like butt too. Damn it.
satanaintwaitin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:44:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She was into you homie. You fucked up. Why wouldn't we like butts...??
berlin_chair_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know right - everything from tiny Hank Hill buns to something you can throw small coin currency at and ricochet off it - all boy buns are beautiful
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
said by a fifty year old male redditor
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a 24 year old lady :(
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh hi there :) hmu 4 gud tiem
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GLUTES FOR THE SLOOTS.
PM_Me_Ass_or_Tittys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ass is huge and im really self concious about it. Im not really fat, my ass is just huge.
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EMBRACE IT. I, too, have a big ass - don't be self conscious, I bet it's luscious af
PM_Me_Ass_or_Tittys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ill try lol
easyroscoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you might be on a list now
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ask yourself this again. Why would anyone look at a 10 year old's butt?
didattoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn what about hips.
mine are kinda wide and I hate it
B4107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I as a male fortunately or unfortunately understand this well, now how do I get women to stop grabbing it at random? I now know how women feel when a douchebag is in vicinity
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just tell people off
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:51:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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satanaintwaitin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:53:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a girl, honestly, I don't really care for big beefy arms. Or abs. Ever. In fact, I enjoy a nice Andy Dwyer body. However, I CAN appreciate when a guy has nice glutes. I just like it. I like nice, round girl's butts too.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girls have like butts die as long back as I can remember
CeiIingCat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the jeans I used to own that fit were either squeezing on my ass like fabric vice grips, or they looked like a full diaper. I shopped at h&m and such. Their jeans were okay looking but the fits were inconsistent.
Please , when you find a perfectly fitting pair of jeans, buy them. Don't go vice ass and don't go diaper butt. It enhances your appearance so much.
Also! Wear a belt! Even if your pants fit perfectly!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my god for some reason women love my ass and bring it up often. Yes my ass is big (not fat man ass) but damn it makes me self conscious.
now if i could talk about their ass too without them yelling at me about "being a perv" even though they just praised mine x(
MatttheBruinsfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not just girls.
defiantleek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't count the amount of times a girl/woman has commented on my ass/assaulted it. I seriously think I've been sexually harassed more than most of the females I know. I'm not even hot but apparently my ass is catnip?
i_h8_spiders2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go with the Levi's jeans and find your number.
GotHamm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 3 pairs of Levi's that are all the same size they're just in different shades.
ChornWork2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Appropriate user name.
tdrusk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got Lego butt with my phone and wallet :(
g253 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with tight jeans is that they occasionally crush your balls.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:46:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm Girl at my school once said to her friend "Dayyyyme, dat skinny white kid's ass is perfect" then shouted at me "those pants fit you well!"
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:44:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just discovered slim fit Levi 511 and my life changed forever. Not totally overpriced and good quality, plus they look as good or better than those shit designer jeans.
Take that mom, you and your $200+ pairs of jeans.
efitz11 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:10:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tfw skinny but have big thighs
satanaintwaitin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of the best jeans I own are like 11 bucks. Men's slim fit chinos are like under 20 usually, if you can find a great store/pair. The ones that are like 200 bucks are stupid to me.
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Took me forever to break the expensive jeans habit. All through middle and high school, my mom pushed that expensive bullshit on me, telling me that none of the others fit well or looked good.
Now that I'm out on my own, and have been for several years, I've discovered that that's bullshit.
Turns out, my parents didn't want me buying things that said "skinny" because they thought they were skin tight skinny jeans. That was false, slim and skinny Levis aren't skin tight on me and actually look damn good if I may say so myself.
satanaintwaitin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mostly thrift or shop at places like Primark and H&M and shit. Men's jeans in there are 20 or under, and women's as well (yay!). There is such a difference between skinny jeans and real skinny jeans - I once knew a boy who wore skinny jeans and we wore the same size, meaning this dude fit into a size 3 skinny girl jean.
subliminali ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Levis jeans are notoriously different fits each time -- make sure you actually try each pair on.Don't do what I did which is decide a certain style works and just buy it every time and assuming my body was now a different size.
I hate shopping in stores but pants are now the one thing I make a rule of always trying on before buying.
gravitychasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These have been my go to pants for about three years now. 511s+ a form fitting flannel/long sleeve and you always look good!
molonym2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have the Levi 511 in 5 different colors. Favorite pants ever.
unseine ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:51:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is all fucking terrible advice if thats not your style. Found out what you look good in not what somebody else does.
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The question is "how can you make yourself more attractive" - maybe the style doesn't work. maybe the haircut was bad. maybe the shoes are old. it's about improving.
unseine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the first half was good.
ShadowDragonCHW ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:30:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never understood why people care so much about shoes.
bricktamland48 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simply put, shoes make or break an outfit. A dude can be wearing a perfectly fitting $2,000 suit, but if he's got a pair of these on, he will look like a dipshit. No exceptions.
ShadowDragonCHW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see it. Those are shoes. They aren't particularly good or bad. Just. Shoes.
bricktamland48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're extremely ugly
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They make the outfit.
I_Photoshop_Movies ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoes are life
VictusFrey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:02:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe this is this far down. When I get a haircut, I definitely notice how differently strangers treat me. I get more "hi, "hows it going?" and smiles from complete strangers.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a GOOD haircut. Just because you can get one for $10 doesn't mean that it is going to be good, invest in a good haircut, and use good product in your hair. While I still struggle with anxiety and depression I decided that I wanted to dress well, so I wear short sleeve collared shirts which I get at outlet stores for big brands. A $60 shirt will 9/10 times look better than a $25 shirt, and it will last longer.
twistedfork ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:46:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fit of the jean you should buy is entirely dependent on the person wearing them.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:53:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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statikuz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're not slim I don't recommend slim fit jeans. The vast majority of people that wear them shouldn't be. (and I'm not talking overweight people)
ImAStruwwelPeter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:26:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoo-shoo, gainz goblinz
Tebeku ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I bought like three pairs of these really fly flower pattern 19.99 summer shoes. A girl said she thought they were neat, so I'm sticking with it! Suck it!
nerdyfanboy1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:29:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to be a hipster.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, how DO you want to dress?
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:31:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:46:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can have a fashion sense without dressing in chinos and not-too-skinny jeans. Ffs.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:18:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genuine question: what are joggers?
tinoasprilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In line with cutting hair, trim your eyebrows, especially if they're weird looking
thedoginthewok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut. Get a real job.
Clean your act up, don't be a slob.
karlymoon999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is by far the best and most realistic one in the thread. This would work for ANYONE
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, guys, but hey. Confidence is also key but a lot of the time, what you wear will give you confidence.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you have chicken legs and a giant but ? I actually have quite a hard time finding pants.
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go for a wider fit if you can or have your pants hemmed.
CoffeeZombieV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once you have new shoes, clean them
cocacolaguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it totally ridiculous to ask what a button down is?
Girlirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should clear things up!
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google it. It's just a dressier shirt - or a flannel, haha
cocacolaguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah sweet haha thanks
MrKurtz86 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:56:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just in italy. I was in this small town called monte fiasconi. I bought chinos there. ~$90 They're the best pair or pants i've ever owned. They fit nice, they look nice, its easy to remove stains, and I can wear them way longer before they need to be washed than all of my other pants. Chinos here don't compare. I'd love to get another pair but I have no idea where I could get them here.
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, for example, there is a Primark near me. They sell chinos for 20 or less and they are an amazing cut and look. You can try places like H&M and Express.
Azonata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At times like these being rich actually does make a difference.
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you shop at big chain stores!
cjog210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Along with haircuts, actually go to something better than sportsclips or any other cheap barber if you can.
You change your clothes daily, but you're stuck with your haircut for weeks and sometimes months.
Alovhell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if you like having long hair, treat it nicely. I use special shampoo, conditioner and some drops from a hair-repairing liquid. If you do that, people will see your hair as something diferent and atractive.
ThreeLZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting shoes is the hard part. I feel like there's not much for men in-between dress shoes and sneakers. Theres those brown skechers that dads in cargo shorts wear, then there's boat shoes that frat guys in polos wear.
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Invest in some Oxfords or whatever they're called. Sneakers are great but it really depends on the pair, I feel. Like, don't be chillen around in your ratty running shoes.
ThreeLZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I mean just something more casual than dress shoes.
Anthemize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It may be important to mention how slim the jeans are. My boss and managers wear jeans on casual Fridays, they're well fitted jeans, not tight as holy hell jeans. Jeans that look like you tucked them into your shoes don't look good. My boss and managers are men btw
satanaintwaitin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:15:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tru, tru. I mean actually slim cut denim, not tight girl pants.
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm....chinos, a fresh haircut, and a well-fitting dress shirt. I'm sold.
satanaintwaitin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget somewhat nice/decent shoes!
MrSlothy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:13:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys that can invent things and look good doing it get all the bitches.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:17:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or joggers
satanaintwaitin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol yeah if you work in retail or a fashion company. I love joggers but a lot of dudes can't pull them off.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:50:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: Go to a thrift store and spend under 10 dollars for a pair of nice looking pants and a shirt. Source: Have dressed many men this way for success
_king_of_time_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You lost me at chinos
satanaintwaitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sigh
_king_of_time_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You trying to say I have beady eyes?
Turdulator ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys in slim fit jeans look like they are wearing their little sisters pants
satanaintwaitin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:00:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you thinking about tight, skinny jeans or slim fitting jeans that actually fit the person?
Turdulator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good point, I was definitely thinking of "skinny jeans"
satanaintwaitin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:01:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are slim fit, I don't think these look like girls pants..
SleepNowMyThrowaway ยท 682 points ยท Posted at 14:28:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Being attractive is the most important thing there is, if you wanna catch the biggest fish in your pond.
You have to be as attractive as possible; make sure to keep your hair spotless and clean; wash it at least every two weeks.
Once every two weeks!
And if you see Johnny football hero in the hall, tell him he played a great game and tell him you liked his article in the newspaper.
snorlz ยท 483 points ยท Posted at 16:48:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you see Johnny football, you should probably tell him to stop drinking
karneykode ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:22:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you recognize him in disguise.
cavebac0n ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 19:08:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cavebac0n ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:59:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you missed the joke..."Billy" is the nickname Johnny Manziel gave himself over the weekend when he went to Las Vegas disguised in a blonde wig and a mustache. Unfortunately for myself and other browns fans, what I just said is not a joke...
snorlz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oops sorry i totally missed that
cavebac0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem! To be honest, I can't wait to stop hearing about this guy.
The_Spitting_Llama ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:59:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Johnny Manziel was seen in Las Vegas referring to himself as Billy Football while wearing a wig and fake mustache this last weekend.
snorlz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OOPS
HyPeRxColoRz ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:36:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I don't have a drinking problem. The team has a problem with me drinking"
NeonBodyStyle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:05:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean Billy.
isotopesNmolecules ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:57:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HE doesn't have a drinking problem, the TEAM has a problem with his drinking. Lol
norskie7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:32:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And get outta Cleveland
Simple_one ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or to take of his damn disguise, we all know its him.
Suchcoolmanydoge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how will you know it's him with the wig and fake moustache?
crrttt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How else would you cope with playing with the Browns?
emilyjoeckel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have a drinking problem. The team has a problem with me drinking.
jdschultze ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:00:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't hardly blame him... I couldn't live in Cleveland sober.
[deleted] ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 14:48:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once every two weeks?
[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 16:30:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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singeblanc ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:15:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So fortnightly?
ios_k ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:20:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
twice a month is once every two weeks tho
Tebeku ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:27:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the joke?
denar_draw ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:15:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Washing your hair by having jokes whoosh over it is the modern way to do it
HookLineNStinker ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 16:27:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not a child a of the 90's in America huh? Nada Surf- Popular. I loved this song in HS. I would categorize it as a one hit wonder. I don't remember much else from them, but I'm not from Cali where these guys are from (if I remember correctly). What makes the "lyrics" really interesting is they are from a How To dating book back from the 50's one of the band members found and read verbatim. If you listen to the song, these are words of advice from a dating advice book written ~60 yrs ago.
Edit- link broke
abilletdoux ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:54:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nada Surf is from NYC and everyone should know Inside of love by them as well.
Inside of love
HookLineNStinker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:03:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a pretty song. I don't remember it ever being on the radio here in Jersey, but I like it and I'm glad you posted it.
That video is so 90's it makes me smile. I miss the 90's. I miss a time before social media ruled the world and when I called my friends their parent's picked up and asked me how I was before I awkwardly asked for their kid to talk.
ThrowUpNotAway ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:38:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another song/video that is so wonderfully 90s.
King Missle - Detachable Penis
SybariticLegerity ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:20:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/lewronggeneration
Moozilbee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:26:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminiscing =! wrong generation
Constantly complaining about how all music before 2010 was "real" and how all music nowadays is shit = le wrong generation
socoamaretto ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:15:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One hit wonder?!? You crazy
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blonde on Blonde bro, a song about an album, playing on a giant golden radio.
RandMcNalley ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not for radio play, but Nada Surf has a lot of great songs.
Cloudy_mood ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:37:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved this song. Always made me laugh when they say, "and if you see Johnnie Football Hero in the halls, TELL EM HE PLAYED A GREAT GAME! TELL EM YOU LOVED HIS ARTICLE IN THE NEWSPAPER!!"
90's music ruled. The last great decade of pop/rock music.
LordPizzaParty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never realized how much this sounds like The Sweater Song :\
mrnotloc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Title Fight covered this song and that's p tight.
gk3coloursred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just realised I'd never seen any of their videos before. But I knew their music (OK, mostly that song), as a 90's kid from the opposite side of the Atlantic.
squirtle53 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The entire album was pretty damn good especially stalemate. They're still active and going strong as far as I know.
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard they've had great albums since then and rarely perform 'Popular' at shows. They actually downright refuse to play it even when it's requested.
klaq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it probably would be a shitty song to hear live anyway.
mikesername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Patrick Bateman?
mtm5891 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nada Surf is considered a one hit wonder but they've got a pretty decent back catalogue. I really enjoyed their albums Lucky and The Weight is a Gift.
babyinthebathwater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just discovered their newest (ish? 2012) album, The Stars Are Indifferent to Astronomy, a few weeks ago and it's great!
mtm5891 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't listened to them in a few years but I've been looking for some new jams. I'll check it out!
Jerilo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap almighty the drummer looks so much like Jared Padalecki
14domino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always Love was more popular.
Landredr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you wash your hair too much you'll lose the natural oils in your hair and it'll get dry and brittle. You'll end up looking like Reek.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. Also, /r/nopoo
Love you fucking hair people!
GringodelRio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you do wash your hair, moisturize after either way.
abilletdoux ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:29:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the party star
I'm popular
I've got my own car
I'm popular
I'll never get caught
I'm popular
I make football bets
I'm the teacher's pet!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never understood how being the teacher's pet made you popular.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:16:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently started not washing my hair very often, and I found out it allows my hair to form better with my product
vicee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/NoPoo
ViviWannabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started washing my hair with baking soda two years ago and find I have to wash it much less often, plus it's healthier. I only wash it twice a week in the summer and once a week in the winter, and have noticed a drastic decrease in both greasiness and split ends.
pighalf ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:09:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When is a good time to tell him about my one month limit on dating?
UncleverAccountName ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:48:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom says I'm a catch
TiffanyCassels ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:05:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally forgot about this song! Nicely done.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:52:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started yelling your comment in my head as I read through it
Pasalacquanian ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:06:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flashback to the rebellious years
my_username_is_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow didn't think I'd see this comment, thanks sir!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm head of the class; I'm popular.
wittlewadio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every two weeks??? My hair looks terrible after 2 days..
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nada Surf. Nice.
IAmTheRedWizards ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'M HEAD OF THE CLASS!
I'M POPULAR!
frankysins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuckin-a man. great tune
LittlePrincess4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm taping this to my bathroom mirror. You, sir or madam, are a genius.
omgdinosaurs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cant believe this many people caught this reference.
GoGetYaFknShinebox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:15 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm popuuular ๐ถ
rubsgs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess you're the party star
Eder_Cheddar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know about this no washing hair thing until recently.
Mind you I am a 28 year old male. I live with my fiancee now.
Apparently NOT washing your hair (when it comes to women, at least) for prolonged periods of time makes your hair grow stronger and better. There are natural oils that your scalp produces that your hair needs.
Shampoo actually gets rid of all this and actually makes your hair dry and split-ends occur more commonly.
It's sort of disgusting if you sit and think about it, but if you think about how little girls sweat as opposed to guys then you start to accept it.
solidification ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fiancee has been doing this lately as well. However, she uses a cleansing conditioner (it's not shampoo) which she'll use for about 2-3 weeks. I guess it helps her hair but doesn't clean out the natural oil and doesn't make her hair smell. After 2-3 weeks, she'll shampoo once and start the process all over again. I do notice her hair looking much better lately.
Mondonodo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do guys really sweat that much more? Maybe I'm an outlier, because I'm generally always somewhat sweaty. (Usually just pits if I'm not exercising.)
TGrady902 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped washing my hair daily recently and I had made it much softer and doesn't stand up nearly as much. Two weeks sounds like way to long to not wash your hair though...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Catch biggest fish, use right bait.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:40 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like an advert for roofies.
RealJuanDoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wash my hair every other day... And I'm a guy...
jd_coud9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm head of the class. I'm popular.
HKBloo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Once every two weeks? Can someone reply when they find the joke? I want to play with it.
MumBum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the quarterback, I'm popular
JenaboH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm head of the class, I'm popular, my mom says I'm a catch, I'm popular...
ashmc2001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a party star....I'm POPULAR!
DingoDance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be popular.
OHydroxide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash hair hair every 2 weeks? That seems like a long wait.
PerryLJackson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was a surprise to see.
El_Dumfuco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been washing with shampoo every day. Is that why I'm balding at 22?
mudkip300 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get dandruff if I don't wash my hair every 3 days. Very surprised with washing once every two weeks.
hiccapwn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you do if you are balding?
Drekken- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:16:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bic it. Quit holding on... just let it go.
JMurray1121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash hair once every 2 weeks?? I do it everyday
UndisputedGold ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats not good (i think), should be every two days.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With water (or possibly a very mild soap/shampoo): every day
With harsh shampoo: every few days
Your hair contains oil to protect it and keep your scalp healthy. Wash with something potent every day, and you'll strip away the oil.
But you do need to get dirt and other contaminants out of it, and keep the oil from building up if you have really oily hair.
wokeupabug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surely the natural method is to wash your hair every day, and immediately after washing rub an oil product into it that makes it look like you didn't wash it.
fordr015 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:21:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to cook. I learned to cook with shrimp every day i cooked shrim with different flavors and styles. They cook fast and are small and rady to controll a few at a time. It gave me an understanding of flavors and the difference in cooking something and overcooking somthing.
ostermei ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 20:27:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it.
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:41:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was waiting for this...
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:07:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do I show my cooking skills to people on the street?
TheNewElite250 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need a propane burner, a piece of plywood, some harnesses and duck take, a medium frying pan, ingredients and you're ready to go.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps carry with you a flame thrower and a pig on a spit?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would really help is being able to list every single shrimp dish in the world.
[deleted] ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 18:18:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be rude. Seriously, you could have a face carved by God himself, but if you're a major douche bag it will take your attractiveness level down several pegs... People who are genuinely kind, and friendly, are way more attractive than those who are not.
It doesn't matter if your appearance is a 10... If your personality is a 3.... then you're a 3.
pamplemouss ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:14:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There have been a number of times I've looked at a guy and thought he was super hot...then he's started talking and all my attraction has evaporated (either bc he's douchey/rude or an idiot).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has happened to me as well.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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pamplemouss ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:24:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, how is falling for smart women a problem?
gradeahonky ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:37:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's where this one gets confusing: be CONFIDENT and nice. People are usually more attracted to confident assholes than terrified, sniveling nice people. (a lot of folks will deny it, but it's clearly true.)
If confidence is equal, then yes, a friendly person will be more attractive. But being confident AND kind/friendly is harder than being nice and wimpy, or a confident asshole. That's why a lot of people are one of the other.
Aelo-Z ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:28:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My nose was chiseled by the GODS themselves
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ehh more like a 6
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll give it a 5
jumpman_33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with the overall point. However, there's only so many 10s. imo a rude 10 is still a 10. You can't deny elite beauty.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:48:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, dude, if you want to chase down a bitchy/douchy 10, that's your prerogative. But as for me, personally, I'm not wasting my time.
jumpman_33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Look, I am not saying that you should get into a long term relationship or marriage with this type of person. I hit the lottery in that I date a 10 with a great personality. All I am saying is that true 10s are unique and can be breath taking simply by his or her beauty. This breath taking beauty will not be reduced to what a person will normally perceive as a 3 no matter how bad his or her personality is. I feel like most people try to downplay this phenomenon because of jealousy or something.
motherfuckingasshole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PREACH
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats why i have a granny fetishโฆ
trackerFF ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 23:11:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This gonna get buried, but here's the usual difference between attractive and non-attractive people, males in general. (Only the things that can be changed)
Get in shape, stay in shape Skinny-fat? Gain lean mass, lose fat. Fat? Lose fat. Scrawny? Gain lean mass. Not talking bodybuilder-ripped, but just so that you don't have a gut hanging out. It will also give you a nice, defined face.
Hygiene Fat, sticky hair is gross. Same is a repulsive BO, dirty nails and hands.
Poor facial hair Just let it go. If you can't grow a real beard or mustache, shave it. If you have a massive neck-beard, shave it. You either have a complete beard (trimmed, or full), or you don't. Don't lie to yourself.
Haircut Try to keep up with the times. Get your hair cut regularly, and find something that fits you. If you're balding, keep it short.
Buy clothes that fit Not saying that you must go out and buy 300 buck jeans or 5k$ bespoke suits, but at least learn how long trousers should be. How a dress shirt and sweater should fit. Don't cheap out on these items either, meaning: NO MORE DAD JEANS OR ILL-FITTING CARGO SHORTS FROM WALMART. No more $20 sneakers that look like the belong on senior-citizen. No more dye-tie t-shirts, or fedoras, or XXXL "funny" shirts.
Read male fashion advice, styleforum, or something like that for tips. You'll also be amazed how much longer certain clothes last, once you invest some extra money.
Take care of your teeth Lets face it, the teeth are probably one of the most important first impressions you get from a man. Barring some terrible diseases, there's no excuse to have poor teeth. Yes, I know, I know, once you're there, it's hard going back.
Brush your teeth twice a day, and after meals. Floss religiously. Get 'em serviced annually.
Player4Ruz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with tie dye?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything
Player4Ruz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even when you make them yourself?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:14:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
Player4Ruz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to have to disagree
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:01:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK
GrantBloomer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothings buried if you dig deep enough. Life pro tip.
Yess-cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*tie-dye
R3luctant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cargo pants are just so damned functional though...
stringsandwinds ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 22:00:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
PurplebeanZ ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:36:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And don't skimp on the business cards
EzzelinoBrowning ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:03:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my God, it even has a watermark!
Edit: found the better quote Edit 2: seriously, if you haven't, read American Psycho and watch the film, both are great.
JerryVsNewman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pale nimbus, bone lettering orgasms
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for that.
olya777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget sunscreen!
Carl_the_Glorious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just finished this book, much long after watching the movie. 10/10, knew the quote right from the first few words.
lanle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got to return some video tapes.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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EzzelinoBrowning ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:57:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a quote from 'American Pscyho's Patrick Bateman, the psychotic poster boy for 80's excess.
afterburner9 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:31:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sell your car and use all the money to buy sticky hand toys. Give them out to everyone you see.
CoolMachine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best money I ever spent was on a wacky inflatable arm-waving tube man.
Ferfrendongles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genius...
FalstaffsMind ยท 864 points ยท Posted at 14:30:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Avoid profanity and work on improving your vocabulary.
toothofjustice ยท 764 points ยท Posted at 16:32:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that and fuck you.
Zotoaster ยท 503 points ยท Posted at 17:42:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
FordFred ยท 324 points ยท Posted at 18:20:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stared at this for a good 30 seconds trying to figure out what you changed.
AdamtheGrim ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 18:41:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT DID HE CHANGE?
FordFred ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 18:58:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing. FTFY = Fuck That Fuck You
AdamtheGrim ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 19:01:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god.
awry_lynx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:50:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't actually, it'd 'fixed that for you', but in this context it's a punny acronym
joenforcer ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:04:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
dob_doblinson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't actually, it'd be 'fixed that for you', but in this context it's a punny initialism.
FTFY both
THROBBING-COCK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The formatting on this comment makes my head hurt.
dob_doblinson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:58 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
joenforcer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
dob_doblinson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:08 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oops
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually what I initially thought FTFY stood for.
daniel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes, it's quite offensive
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry about my buddy Zotoaster. He's a bit of a dicksmack
camdoodlebop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well?
justsamilarity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still staring
Borealis023 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment just made me do the same
Thissite1s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still lost. It looks like the same phrase to me.
8696David ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:00:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
F(uck) T(hat) F(uck) Y(ou)
_lukey___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IM SO CONFUSED
owlsrule143 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well technically FTFY is fuck this fuck yoรผ
redditmode ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what?
battleporridge ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:19:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck That Fuck You
redditmode ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:26:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit
toothofjustice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, I'm always going to read it like that now.
ironyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very clever.
scoobysnax123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Later, tennis.
yoboijoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You deserve more credit.
Deako87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh you clever mother fucker...
mr_lab_rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OMG!
dudebroth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean.. That's exactly what he said
suddenly_seymour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For my first 6 months as a redditor I thought that was actually what it meant.
NigerianRoyalties ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:42:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Nizpee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, fuck that shit
Bnfrze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/fuckyou
toothofjustice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, fuck you
Stevey854 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/falstaffsmind don't have to cuss in his comments to grab karma.
Well I do, so fuck him and fuck you too
2boredtocare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
right? fuck that fucking shit.
Firecracker500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you fucking sorry?
Alex_Rose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I get that's a joke but I actually agree with that sentiment. "Work on your vocabulary", what so you can be another shithead who gets posted to /r/iamverysmart?
Knowing how to talk to people in a non-condescending way is a much better life skill. If you work in a very tech heavy job, don't go spouting about complex subject matters to a layperson, put it into terms they can easily understand, or if they wouldn't be able to understand it without a huge amount of pre knowledge - don't fucking mention it.
There's no reason to go swot up on the thesaurus other than to be a pompous asshole. Just by not being a moron and living life in your native country you will have a huge vocabulary by adulthood anyway. There's no point being overly verbose other than to alienate people. Everyone can use big words, only people with no social skills choose to in an effort to impress people. It's not impressive.
Also, at least in the UK, I don't know anyone other than my parents (who are very anti swearing) who don't swear. Swearing seems to correlate with honesty.
toothofjustice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck yeah
CoolMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/fuckyou again? OK!
DrAlabamaJones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:18 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
calm down there, ricky /r/trailerparkboys
C_Alan ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 16:04:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another one to go with this... Listen more than you talk. I know a lot of people who would get more done if they simply didn't open their mouth, and spew out non-sense.
FalstaffsMind ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 16:10:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And avoid playing one-upmanship. When someone is telling you their troubles, avoid trying to compete. It's natural to commiserate, but do so in a way that projects empathy not competition.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This, very much. Ended too many friendships because they became contests. I simply do not want to be compared with for everything I do, highs and lows.
xmindallas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:03:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah? Well I ended way more friendships than you did.
HandOfBl00d ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I've alienated everyone I've ever loved and my life is a waking nightmare because of it, come at me
TeacupConspiracy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:28:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To go with this: lower your voice. The entire restaurant doesn't need to know our conversation. It makes you look indiscreet.
rahyveshachr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ffs I went to dinner with my husband the other night and this super loud 19yo was talking to her friend with no regards that everyone could hear her talk about "Oh Em Gee what 20yo can't cook bacon??" She had the valley girl accent and everything. I understand even more why teens are hated so much. Bonus, she dropped a few F bombs and caused a family to move tables and caused everyone to be uncomfortable.
KyleCrusoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed You are 50% of a conversation at best.
Kushcabbage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice in theory but it relies on some people ignoring the rule. It cannot be universalised
theultimatehero2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what if both parties are going this route? Just silence then? I don't understand why I'm always the one that is supposed to talk less than the other person. Someone is probably going to talk more, but it should be about even right?
FalconX88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. Don't talk about your work, ask others what they do. You can learn so much stuff while you won't learn anything from talking about yourself.
HelmetTesterTJ ยท 901 points ยท Posted at 14:39:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to amend this one a bit, just to save any future pedants a top spot on /r/iamverysmart.
Using some profanity is totally fine, especially in the appropriate setting. Calling someone an ass has a very distinct feeling that jerk or butthead don't quite cover. "Sorry about my buddy, Mitch. He's a bit of an ass." It has a very specific meaning that isn't quite covered by other words.
So use profanity sparingly, and in the proper situations.
As for improving your vocabulary, Faulkner said it best:
Don't use big words, don't use small words, don't use complex words, don't use simple words, don't use obscure words, and don't use common words. Just use the right words.
Mark_Eichenlaub ยท 388 points ยท Posted at 15:55:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good quote. The attribution is backwards. Hemingway said that of Faulkner. The source appears to be the book "Papa Hemingway", a memoir by A.E. Hotchner recalling his conversations with Hemingway. It's likely a paraphrase rather than an exact quote. Here's the source:
https://books.google.com/books?id=lmOrQcTbMyAC&lpg=PP1&dq=papa%20hemingway&pg=PR9#v=onepage&q=poor%20faulkner&f=false
JakeFromState_Farm_ ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 16:34:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hemingway is known for his beautifully simple writing. Makes his books extremely enjoyable.
He's the Miles Davis of novels.
cowboyecosse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:31:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There's a good web-app (and a desktop version) for pasting any copy into that'll score it for readability (lower is better) called hemingway app.
Edit: link, http://www.hemingwayapp.com
Kittenmittens03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For sale: baby shoes, never worn
Lord_of_Aces ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flip side: Hemingway is known for his incredibly drab writing. Makes his books extremely boring.
Personally, I can't stand Hemingway.
username_redacted ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:05:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Word. A few people can pull off simple writing (I would give Carver that distinction), but I would take Virginia Woolf's meandering, fluid sentences over Hemingway's "minimalism" any day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, you have me hooked. What's a good Hemingway novel to just jump in to? Never read his work at all, but I'm generally well read.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, he wrote terrible poetry. It's shocking to me that someone so skilled at being succinct and expressive could be so bad at the art which embodies those qualities.
4leafrolltide ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:38:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Faulkner: "[Hemingway] has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary."
Hemingway: "Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words?
overthemountain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That makes more sense. Hemingway was known for a more simple style of writing.
Joosebawkz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha I'm glad I'm not going crazy. I was just sitting here thinking "Why would Faulkner attack Hemmingway for a sophisticated vocabulary?"
KingOfTheBongos87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:32:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I thought that sounded odd. Hemingway is a much better writer than Faulkner because he doesn't try to prove his worth with every sentence. And prose aside, his stories are just better in terms of plot. Fuck Faulkner.
thing___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Faulkner was a poet:
Markstheshark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Going along with this theme, using more descriptive words is important too. As Mark Twain said,
The point is not to simply stop swearing, nor is it to use words like "very" in its place. You have no reason to say "it's damn hot out" when you could say "it's boiling out there". You can make your language more colorful easily.
Malician ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I far prefer "it's damn hot out" to "boiling."
MeloneGuru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:21:01 on February 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For a second there, I thought I had been attributing that quote the wrong person in my head for my entire life
troublehunter ยท 205 points ยท Posted at 16:29:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are both great points, which I'd like to support with a couple examples.
When it comes to profanity, the key is to use your words effectively instead of mixing them with excessive slang and throwing them around constantly like it's some sort of tick. For example, saying "Sorry about my buddy, Mitch. He's a bit of an ass" is totally fine and sounds intelligent. However, saying "Dude, I'm fuckin sorry man. Mitch can be such a fuckin dicksmack" just sounds retarded.
As for vocabulary, I just want to reiterate your point - just use the right words. Rather than looking for a bigger word to say what you mean, which comes off as pretentious, just try using a more concise word.
For example, I would say it sounds perfectly acceptable and normal to take the sentence "Brendan Dassey's trial wasn't fair because when the cops interviewed him, it seemed like he didn't really know what was going on" and make it a bit more specific by saying "Brendan Dassey's trial seems unjust, because in the interview footage with the police, he doesn't appear to truly comprehend the situation or the consequences that could come from his answers."
However, saying "Brendan Dassey's trial appears completely inequitable, based on the circumstances surrounding his interrogations and the inarguable fact that Brendan was not cognizant of the severity of the situation, nor the repercussions that would ensue in court due to his inconsistent confessions" is starting to push the boundaries of sounding like a pretentious asshole.
Edit: formatting.
SvenHudson ยท 230 points ยท Posted at 17:38:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Sorry about my buddy, Mitch. He's a bit of a dicksmack" is the superior third option.
romulusnr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:51:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loquaciousness makes you sound sophisticated; appending a bit of vernacular makes you sound hip.
charlesfish69 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:28:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, this is definitely the best sentence. Especially since dicksmack is such a unique profanity that seems to just roll off the tongue.
ackeba ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:31:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not sure the meaning of dicksmack, but from now on I'll use it often to sound more intelligent
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, deep down we're all a bit of a dicksmack.
Casper7to4 ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 17:09:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend does exactly this (regarding your last example) and no matter how many times I try to explain, she just can't grasp how it actually makes you sounds LESS intelligent. Speaking like that only makes you sound smart to dumb people who think big words = smart. People who are actually smart adjust how they communicate depending on their audience and think you're an idiot when you make a facebook post that sounds like it's straight out of some pretentious book review.
p.s. I found your comment extra funny too because she loves the word 'cognizant'.
twistedfork ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 17:44:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it sounds like you used a thesaurus for your whole sentence, people are going to think you did.
ZerexTheCool ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:49:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it responsible conforming you recycled a onomasticon for your unabridged punishment, bourgeois are going to think you did.
Did I do it right?
troublehunter ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:24:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just lol'd coffee all over my desk.
BiscuitOfLife ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:10:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loln't
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's great.
Feartality ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really good way of putting it.
question_sunshine ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:41:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was an intern in law school, I drafted a motion to dismiss that started out looking like the second example but once the Harvard educated attorney got his hands on it looked about 1000 times more pretentious than the third. The motion was denied.
Harvard failed to pay attention to the first rule of legal writing: know your audience.
If you want to send a letter to a fellow top law firm attorney that requires a masters degree in English, a lifetime of spelling bee competitions, and copies of Black's, Webster's, and the Oxford English Dictionary on the desk in order to decipher, go for it. They'll be pissed, but go for it.
If, instead, you are writing to Joe Schmoe, an elected judge of the third district municipal court of the East Boondock County in the state of Appalachia, realize that his clerk, who probably went to an even shittier law school than he did is going to be the first person to read that thing. And if he can't understand it, he's going to recommend a denial and chances are the judge is never going to see it.
troublehunter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:04:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love this.
Also, your entire comment perfectly exemplifies how "trying to talk smart" can just screw you over.
portalscience ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it helps, I think the biggest thing that matters in "speaking intelligently" is being simple and concise. In the three phase example given with Brendan Dassey, the second one is longer than the first, but ONLY because it added more information. The third scenario is longer while actually losing information (the source footage).
Additionally, the third example shows a common mistake of attempting to sound too certain, passing off subjective content as objective content. "Inarguable fact that Brendan was [unaware]" is exactly the kind of nonsense you hear sometimes.
troublehunter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:56:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thought. In an attempt to sound more intelligent, you can actually just come off as less informed and less reasonable.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:40:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being able to explain complex things in simple terms is much more impressive than (obnoxiously) explaining simple things in complex terms.
ViviWannabe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:02:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Explaining complex things in simple terms is an invaluable skill. My son is in the fourth grade and has expressed a lot of interest in science. I have gotten very good at explaining how the universe works in terms a fourth grader can understand, and it's served me well in other areas of my life. Especially at work.
SomeBroadYouDontKnow ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:17:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think we all do this occasionally. In my friend circle, there are a lot of people who have very technical skills and we will talk about them fairly in depth, eventually the conversation gets to a point where either the ideas or the wording is just alien.
A good thing to do when this happens is to just cut them off and say "word vomit" or "using English?"
No feelings get hurt, and it's a good way of telling them that you're smart enough to keep up, but no one can juggle word soup. And it serves as a reality check that not everyone specializes in or is even vaguely familiar with your area of interest/expertise.
troublehunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! I love it. That's a great point - the people who are impressed by speaking that way are not the intelligent people.
LordPizzaParty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, and people that like to use "big" words will sometimes use them wrong or pronounce them wrong, and then the jig is up!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used go sell computers, trying to use all the proper terminology with an 80yo grandma would lose me so many sales. One of my coworkers never quite figured this out sadly.
justsamilarity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do this in my writing until someone told me it made me look fake :/
Moozilbee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:17:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IMO this would sound fine in a piece of writing, but if you actually try saying it out loud in a conversation then it sounds really forced, as if you're actively trying hard to sound intelligent.
troublehunter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:24:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally see what you're saying, but at the same time I think it depends on your audience.
I said this sentence almost word for word this morning (which is why I used it as an example) during a conversation I was having with an attorney friend about our thoughts on the case. I mostly put my emphasis on the "doesn't appear to truly comprehend the situation." Sounded alright in context, considering we were discussing whether or not we believed the Dassey trial was executed properly or not.
But again, that was in a conversation with a lawyer. When talking to my SO about it, I just said "UM OK THAT WAS NOT FUCKING FAIR AT ALL" with a mouth full of Doritos. So, ya know, audience. :)
Moozilbee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:38:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, that makes a lot more sense. Yea, context is everything, from your comment I assumed you had said that to a friend or SO, which would be weird as fuck.
FirstTimeLast ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:53:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're spot on.
I have one little caveat to add, though.
troublehunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very valid addition to my point! And even if your audience does have a strong vocabulary, it can still come off as pretentious to use unnecessarily technical or "big" words in small talk or casual conversation.
I guess the point is just to gauge the situation and the audience, and adjust accordingly.
FirstTimeLast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:13:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to play basketball, and we have what's called a KYP error.
KYP stands for "know your personnel".
Basically, if I'm playing point guard and I make the right pass, but the guy I pass it to has terrible hands and drops it, it's actually my fault for making a pass that he couldn't handle. That's how I look at it. Even if you're using the right words, that doesn't matter if the audience, be it one person or a stadium of people, doesn't know what you're saying.
troublehunter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL what a KYP error is. Had no idea, since I don't know much about basketball. Love this comparison though!
FirstTimeLast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It works in any sport, and I suppose it works in business, too. If you hand off a task to an employee who clearly can't handle it and he/she fails, it's actually your fault because you knew his/her limitations.
KYP all day.
MrCheeseypants ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:57:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like your fuckin boundary of not sounding like a pretentious fuckin asshole is a goddamn sight higher than mine.
wikiwut ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:44:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ok straight up though, Brendan Dassey's trial did not seem fair
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because it most definitely wasn't.
mickcube ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:14:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
brendan dassey's trial was all fuckin gay and shit
troublehunter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For real. Fuckin Wisconsin is all sorts of fucked up and corrupt and shit.
GoTurnMeOn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah?
theyeticometh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I learned from this is the word dicksmack.
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are so welcome. :)
ExtraSmooth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's safe to say that variations in levels of vocabulary are entirely subjective, particularly pertaining to law; legal language can be notoriously precise and difficult to understand. In general, what's pretentious to one person might simply be effective use of language to another. It's all about context and using words of which you are confident of the meaning.
Phatdave14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confirmed, my AP English exam writers are pretentious assholes
jadoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You also threw inarguable fact in there about something that very likely is arguable, so that makes it sound dumb too.
troublehunter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:52:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Of course, because the same pretentious asshole who speaks that way tends to also be very sure of his opinions and presents them as fact.
Which is why I also throw in "appears completely inequitable" to replace a simple "seems unjust."
The whole attitude is like nails on a chalkboard, isn't it? Gah.
MeesterGone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of Trump saying not allowing Muslim immigrants until our congressmen figure out what the hell is going on.
rhyno435 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"They are humid prepossessing Homo Sapiens with full-sized aortic pumps"
waldiwiththesauce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HAHA i actually felt more fluidity from your last example; although I had never seen the exact word "cognizant". Other than that I loved the way you rephrased it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found the alliteration helps to make the last sentence even more pretentious.
troublehunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I missing something? I don't see any alliteration..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They might not be right next to each other, but it still made itself pretty clear to me when reading over it. Especially the "C "(as in K) sound (Also there are a couple more words with the "C" that I didn't include because not all would consider those an alliteration with the others).
troublehunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, when reading it aloud it does flow very nicely. I can hear it, I just don't really notice when reading it I guess. That and I never consider vowel sounds when observing alliteration, so my brain glazed right over those first three. Neat!
GoTurnMeOn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The unfortunate part is Brendan Dassey would not comprehend any of the 3 above-mentioned examples.
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know. :( When he was on the phone with his mom and asked "what does inconsistent mean?" I about lost it.
Kenny__Loggins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The second sentence sounded retarded mostly because you put "dude" and "man" in there and in the same sentence.
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, because as I explained, the way NOT to use curse words is
being_no_0ne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds pretentious. Get rid of 'truly' at the very least.
omgacow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:16:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly the only good part of that sentence was adding the word unjust. The rest of this sentence is overly wordy and doesn't sound intelligent at all.
bumpercarinfluenza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mitch is an ass though
Yess-cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mitch means well, but sometimes I don't think he understands the effect his words have on people.
bumpercarinfluenza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part is he is one of those people that can dish it out, but can't take it. Sad really.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always like what one of my english teacher said: Use the first word that comes to mind.
troublehunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless English is not your best subject, in which case lean over to the person next to you and quietly ask what the first word to come to their mind is, because all you can come up with is "fuckin nuts."
ViviWannabe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This right here. Every synonym of a word, whether it simple or complex, well-known or obscure, whatever, conveys a slightly different meaning. Knowing those slight differences is what makes you sound smart, not knowing the most complex word out of all of them.
PippyLongSausage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cant stand it when people use an ill fitting, but fancy word to say something that could be said much more eloquently using a more common, but more precise word.
KingsleyVoices ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Muuuch better advise than the post this is a reply to. Glad I wasnt the only one who disagreed with it.
Notcow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please fix your quote attribution! It really takes away from the point of your post when you say hemmingway wrote poorly.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Be concise, not verbose".
snark_attak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No need, really. "Avoid profanity" is reasonable advice when you consider that is does not mean never use it. Avoiding it as a general rule and bringing it out when appropriate tends to make it more impactful. If you're generally soft spoken and pleasant, a simple "what the fuck?" will be far more expressive from you than from someone who includes "fuck" in every other sentence.
Clarification may be more in order regarding vocabulary. Knowing when and how to use them is as important as knowing the big words. In a way, it is much the same as with profanity. If you overdo it, it loses impact and makes you sound like you are trying too hard. But used more sparingly and without trying to force it can enhance the meaning you're trying to convey. Even when a word has essentially the same meaning, using one that not as over-used can make a simple expression more memorable. E.g. /u/troublehunter 's example of using "unjust" in place of "not fair" below (or wherever his comment shows up relative to this one).
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with this completely, except for the part where you imply that I am male because I'm not. :)
Aside from that though, spot on!
FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must admit, Troublehunter does sound like a male name. I agree as well. Having an expansive vocabulary doesn't necessarily mean you pepper your speech with big words. In many cases you may even use one precise word in place of many. Just as 'Unjust' replaces 'not fair', a word like 'amidst' in place of 'in the midst of'.
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Does it? It's actually a reference to this Astronautalis song about the
Revolutionary WarBattle of Trenton.. Not sure what the deal is with the music video though; I guess the low budget days were rough on Andy.FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only because, and this is a male perspective, men tend to hunt trouble more than women. Cool song. I googled it and it's supposed to be about the battle of Trenton. The video makes no sense if that's the case.
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, but I'm pretty good at hunting trouble myself. :) And yes it is the Battle of Trenton - that's totally what I meant! Astronautalis is really underrated in my opinion; he's super versatile and has thoughtful, intricate lyrics that hold my attention. He did a song with POS called Story of My Life that I adore.
FalstaffsMind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the line, "You can find a swarm where the stingers hold back" in the refrain. I take that to mean, we find companionship when people are welcoming and not throwing verbal darts out at people.
Coincidentally, I was just reading about the Battle of Trenton in Sarah Vowel's new book on Lafayette.
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like you.
FalstaffsMind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like you too. Even though you are a trouble hunter.
snark_attak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apologies. No slight was intended. Personally though, I am more inclined to using male pronouns generically when gender is unknown rather than the more cumbersome "he/she", "his/her" method.
troublehunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No worries, I was just giving you shit. In fact, I'm a chick and I still pretty much just assume everyone on Reddit is a dude.
Iusethistopost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, and using the right words improves the more words you know. Just don't be one of those people trying to use words to show off rather than say something
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hemingway wrote one of the saddest things I've ever read. Very simple. No big words but it really gets the feel across to you.
For sale: Baby shoes. Never worn.
troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Forever the best "6 word story" ever written.
Spider_Chief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was listening to "We didn't start the fire" and right as I read "hemmingway", billy says "hemmingway. Okay.
Jbota ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The right word at the right time is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.
ramplocals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
according to the NY Daily News, "Weโll be damned! People who swear the most have the biggest vocabularies"
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/people-swear-biggest-vocabularies-article-1.2465025
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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troublehunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good catch. More importantly though, the quote was actually said by Hemingway, not about him.
Good try though, OP!
theultimatehero2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL ok. That just made vocabulary the most complex problem we face today.
abstractwhiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite way to do this is to invoke the Sophisticated As Hell trope by mixing profanity with some slightly advanced vocabulary.
Works like a charm on 95% of people, and appears to be even more effective with a smarter audience when played for laughs.
SamuraiJakkass86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...!
AristotleProblems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should save yourself first from /r/iamverysmart. You just attempted to cite Faulkner, which is already a little obnoxious. But in so doing, you managed to switch Hemingway and Faulkner in your attribution, which would be impossible if you had actually read either of them.
HelmetTesterTJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya caught me; I misread who the quote was attributed to this morning. I didn't even know they were authors. I thought they were professional wrestlers or something.
AristotleProblems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm glad you learned something today.
Son_Of_A_Pun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I don't cuss hardly ever, words like douche don't really have a non-profane equivalent. When I hear that someone was a douche, I know EXACTLY what that person was like. You don't get that from other words. Otherwise, I use substitutes. Fuck-> screw, shit-> shoot/ crap, etc.
Cuss words are more versatile, but not worth everything that comes with it. Also, huge turn off for me.
Mighty_Trip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is ridiculously stupid. Just be yourself and stop worrying so much about grammar to impress people. Impress them with who you are. Bunch of fakers if you ask me
firewind1334 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really good quote. Any advice on how to improve your vocab?
Fan_Boyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:50 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a Mitch ass
MrSlothy ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 16:11:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless who you are is profane as a sailor. Almost every girl I've dated has sworn as much as me, you'll be happier being who you are and having them accept you for it than holding back all the time. Unless you're meeting their parents, then you should dial down..
PliskinSnake ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:31:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to hold back my sailor vocabulary until I'm familiar with you/know you can handle it. Once we know each other a bit I will fucking tell you every shitty part of my god damn day having to deal with all these fucking assholes in this shit hole of a dead end job. Its fun to curse.
Sandy_Emm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:24:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girl here. I have a sailor mouth. I realize that it can be unappealing to curse so much, but eh. I try to watch my mouth around people I don't know well. I curse a lot around my friends. I don't curse at my parents. Finding a guy with a sailor mouth would be extremely helpful.
Stevey854 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your in the UK just look north. Anywhere above Nottinghamshire will be packed with pottymouths
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, that won't improve your general appeal though.
z500 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I don't want to appeal to people who don't interest me.
MrSlothy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're suggesting being something other than what you are to fake appeal to the opposite sex? Like intentionally misleading them to like you? Seems legit.
naghator ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:38:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WATCH YO PROFANITY
snorlz ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 16:47:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*PROFAMITY
KomradeKoala ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:41:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, sorry
Iokuas ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:36:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about having an exceptional vocabulary, but also cursing like a sailor? Do they balance out? :P
FalstaffsMind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It does actually. Juxtaposition is artful.
troublehunter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Juxtaposition is fucking artful.
obamaneborrabratwurs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:12:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a girl and I've had guys tell me they love it when I curse. Its strange bc every woman ever has told me guys hate women who curse. I guess it differs between people
Elementium ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:00:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Word. I noticed on some girls dating profiles they seem particularly proud of "talking like a sailor".
It's off putting. My brother constantly swears. We went out to eat and when the hostess asked if we wanted to sit in the bar? "Fuck no."
Come on, you're not cool.
I hardly swear out in the real world, and never in front of my parents.
HuffinWithHoff ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:36:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between swearing a lot and being rude though. Your brother was just being rude.
FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing about swearing is its impact wears off the more you use it and you just begin to sound like trailer trash. From the hostesses point of view, she isn't thinking... I want to get with this guy and listen to him wax rhapsodic about life, the universe and everything. She is thinking... sit this guy away from the respectable people.
Musicmans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My best friends new boyfriend once said "Why do you use so many big words? Why don't you just talk normal?" Not long after my best friend of many years cut me off completely without explanation, last thing I heard they were engaged. I wish I could remember what was the big word that I said. Something like "exorbitant". Sometimes people just don't like you I guess.
troublehunter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:28:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't help but read "why don't you just talk normal?" in a hillbilly accent, while picturing a guy with a mountain dew in his hand.
FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He sounds like a controller and you threatened him with a bigger intellect.
TheSmashPosterGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good one
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuck no
KingOfTheBongos87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if you're a dumb ass. Go fuck yourself.
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really is hard for me to not use profanity especially when I'm excited about getting a point across. However, when I do use profanity I lower my voice extremely almost to the point of just mouthing it and it seems to help.
feo_ZA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely the vocabulary.
Nothing less attractive than someone who can't string together a decent sentence.
Stevey854 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
U fukkin wot m8? I've half a mind 't' give yous a fukkin rite hook
PickYourSelfBackUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that. I need a rugged bitch.
romulusnr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you, blatherskite.
rafael000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
watch your profamity
HW90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree, don't overuse it sure, but a near specifically avoiding swearing will make you look weird
F1stCanBeAVerb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that
OBVIOUSLY_NOT_JEWISH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/FuckYou
funkmastamatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I curse all the fucking time but I also have a great vocabulary and can articulate myself very well to people even whilst cursing. I attribute it to my love of hip hop and gangsta rap.
PM_Me_Ass_or_Tittys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have trouble talking a lot of times, and a lot of times I can't think of words. Is that bad?
peeaches ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you
sisyphus99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find that mixing profanity with an above average vocabulary allows me to seamlessly traverse both the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. I'm just kidding. I don't fuckin' mess with the bourgeoisie.
ViviWannabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can be intelligent and have a large vocabulary and still use profanity. Profane words are just words, they've just been arbitrarily assigned as "bad" words. I find it amusing that people who tend to think that profanity makes you sound stupid think that psudo-swears such as gosh, dang, and crap are ok.
FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The question was centered on attractiveness. If you use 'fucking' in front of every noun, you are objectively less attractive. It's not necessarily because you are using a 'bad' word, but because you have this huge vibrant city of words at your disposal, and you confine yourself to the slums.
evilpancakeman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Australia wants a word with ya m8
FalconX88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing more annoying than people who never use profanity even if it's THE moment.
FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never is for choirboys. I should have said avoid lacing your speech with profanity. The less frequently you employ it, the more impact it has when you do.
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wait so you cant use emojis in irl convos??????? bruh smfh lmfaoooooooo
same for dem akronyms? sheeeeeeeeit
also the same for memes? yeesh
zedoktar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a ridiculous vocabulary but I prefer swearing like a sailor as it has far more impact and adds a great deal of emphasis. It also helps that fuck is probably the most versatile word ever invented. It can be used in any part of a sentence for any purpose.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is certainly one of the better comments I've seen.
aredditgroupthinker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True. Profanity is low class and is a sure sign of stupidity.
FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has its place, but it's certainly not professional and its liberal usage won't impress the more desirable members of the opposite sex.
AmoryGatsby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would I want to be around people who suppress or feel offended by a few words such as fuck, ass, shit, and damn?
They sound like very boring fucking people to be completely fucking honest. Prudes who cry when they see the Middle Class or something.
FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Language can be poetry or it can be prose, and you are entitled live a poetic life or a prosaic one. The choice is yours.
AmoryGatsby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you not read Auden, Joyce, Pynchon, Gaddis or McElroy? You can be both if you're not surrounded by prudes who fear a word. But, you go ahead and keep throwing words around and lame quotes in an attempt to sound smart.
Treshnell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There were actually some studies done that found swearing helps with pain relief. Knowing what words to use and when to use them is more important than just having a big vocabulary.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-we-swear/
Or be Nigel Richards: memorize the French dictionary to win a Scrabble tournament. Still can't speak French.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jul/21/new-french-scrabble-champion-nigel-richards-doesnt-speak-french
Mazza1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is a good way to improve my vocabulary?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vocabulary astonishingly serendipitous. No problems there but I can't stop fuckin' cussin' to save me life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why the fuck would I avoid profanity???
TryAgainName ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of all of these I would find this the hardest. Being Scottish is a curse, I didn't even know that ass was a swear word.
FalstaffsMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Strictly speaking ass is only considered a mild swear word when referring to a backside. If you are referring to the stubborn animal, then not at all.
TryAgainName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just realised I don't even say 'ass' I say 'arse'.
I_FIST_CAMELS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Such an American post.
http://youtu.be/s_osQvkeNRM
itaShadd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if I possess a bounteous vocabulary but indulge in prolific obscenity?
Ancel3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This annoys me to no end on Reddit, I swear everyone on here is just edgy tweenagers who just found out they can swear when the grown-ups aren't looking.
And every time it comes up, someone gives the "Well they're just words, it's society that randomly decided that these words are bad" argument.
It doesn't matter if they mean nothing, they're ugly and I will instantly think less of you if you blast the F-word three times a sentence like my brother does. Like /u/HelmetTesterTJ said, they do have a very specific purpose in that they're stronger than other words, but don't call someone a fuckin' asshole at a kid's birthday party.
pumpinpat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, avoid sounding like a bitch. Girls hate that shit.
sadpumpkin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I realise it has nothing to do with being Scottish but my American friends were stunned at how much I swore. I try to keep it trim. I wasn't even aware how much I was doing it. I can't remember who said it, it may have been Billy Connolly, but we tend to use "fucking" as a comma.
timruddell125 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But...but....but some words just can't get the message across like a well placed curse. And fuck is such a fucking diverse word that make sense in a fuck load of situations.
no1survivalist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:55:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*profamity op. It's profamity.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:23:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a coworker that likes I use big words wen he is talking, he will stop after he says them and ask if you know what it means. It makes him look like an ass, in casual conversation about football or the Marvel movie he just saw there is no reason to use SAT words, it doesn't make him look intelligent he looks like a pompous ass. Just imagine Frasier talking about Pokemon
opsmomdelivered ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:28:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you cant be invidious about it....do you know what that means?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:29:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks to google I do, asshat
mersh547 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:58:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just be glad that your vocabulary has been embiggened.
Zardif ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:58:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I completely photosynthesize with this."
FalconX88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big words are more commonly used by not so intelligent people. Really intelligent people will use simple language.
Jonnycd4 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, however from my experience when you're 18/20/21 the girls of the same age I've come across at least, think this isn't attractive at all, more swearing the better.
boedo ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:42:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
Catatonic27 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:34:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear; am now anorexic.
TerrorTanuki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is me in about three months when I finish this new years cut. Trying not to think about it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a similar path. Lost 25 pounds last year and now have ten or so to go. I've been on a plateau for 6 months and have just started today my new year's cut. Good luck!
TerrorTanuki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is me in about three months when I finish this new years cut. Trying not to think about it.
Brainous ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:47:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just losing weight isn't enough, you also need to exercise and build muscle mass. I lost 15 kg last year and was in underweight category, which sucked. Combined with my white skin I looked sick and I was once stopped on the street and asked if I was okay. It was my wake up call.
boedo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:53:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true for you, but most people would benefit from losing weight. Especially redditors, am I right guys!?
MerlinTrismegistus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm.
magus678 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 21:28:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*if male.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say find an appropriate weight. Super skinny is more of a turnoff for me than slightly chubby.
throwmelikeitshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah up to a point ya'know? I'm like 60kg (I think.... oh god!)
mulduvar2 ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 18:46:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kill all the people more attractive than you.
mytwin_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:53:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but suicide is illegal
TheStradivarius ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:42:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And eat their most attractive body parts. By doing this, you will absorb their attractivness molecules and become more attractive yourself. It's a win-win!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:44:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At that point it wouldn't matter... I'd be the only person left...
Narwhalbaconguy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:47:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
narrator's voice
"As /u/Narwhalbaconguy checked for survivors, there were none. Everybody was dead except for him."
Culinarytracker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thread title specified "simple". Otherwise, not bad. Well, I guess it's actually, eh never mind.
mulduvar2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me... There's nothing more simple than ending life.
Getting away for it for long... I suppose that's another story...
Culinarytracker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ending life maybe, but all the life?
quichagan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, Bundy
NigerianRoyalties ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just explain ISIS?
imdisbear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like this one
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy
eazolan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So...nuclear weapons then?
mulduvar2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In fallout 4 my character was ugly but had at least 10 romance options.
WTFAYWD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres no way in hell someone would kill me for this reason.
Yaaaaayyyyfuck
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... 99.9% of the population?
CoolMachine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loved this idea until realizing it required much more effort than I first thought.
hewhowastesthetime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Piss on them to show dominance, too, right?
Definately_God ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Done.
Onlove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do have a well sized porch I guess...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, it sounds like a good solution until the only people left to sleep with are a bunch of uggos.
EasyTigrr ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 14:45:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aftershave / perfume.
If a guy smells nice, I notice him.
tori1965 ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 15:36:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NOTE: for those of us sensitive to smells, perfume and aftershave need to be used VERY sparingly....after dealing with customers who seem to have bathed in some strong smelling stuff, i have a headache the rest of the day
Anteatereatingant ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:22:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and a lot of guys, especially young guys, seem to bathe in aftershave or cologne. Like, I can walk into a large room and already smell them if they're sitting 20 feet away at least. And when they leave the room still smells like them an hour later. Suffocating! And I'm a guy so it must be even worse for women, who apparently have a better sense of smell.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:33:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, bitches have stronger sense of smell than humans.
sweepyoface ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:44:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please no axe.
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:37:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
What is with people not liking axe ? I am getting serriously worried here, I have only used axe, since, well since I started needing to use deoderant.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:52:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The commercials kinda gave people the notion that no matter how much axe you use, women will flock towards you. Leading to people spraying half a can and leaving any room they walk in smelling like the stuff. I liked it at first, but it started giving me a headache when I walked past people who douse themselves.
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:04:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A can lasts me anywhere from 2 - 4 weeks. Also axe has commercials ?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:12:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah if you use it sparingly then that's fine. Yeah when it first came out. I don't know about now though.
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:15:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, well thanks for the reply. Have a nice day, or night. It's night here. So yeah. Bye.
Recklesslettuce ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:50:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
12 year olds use axe to mask their body odor, resulting in a smell resembling that of a turd behind a rose bush.
When we smell the rose, we remember the turd.
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is actually very well put.
sweepyoface ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:39:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It all depends on the amount. A hint of it is fine, but don't bathe in it.
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, good. I almost thought I was unconsciously a member of an asshole group in society. We don't want that.
WorkUpvoter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just to be safe, you should ask people if they can smell you from more than 3-4 feet away. If they do, you're using too much.
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Noted. I usually just 2 second spray under each of my arms and a single spray to my neck.
Sometimes I wish I was a woman. A woman without sweating problems, like exsessive sweating. Women who don't use deoderant, even the non scented stuff, smell fucking awesome. I wish I could smell like that.
tourmaline82 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...I think that depends on the woman, I'm female and without extra-strength deodorant I smell pretty rank, especially in summer. :/
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some guys like that. Wink Wink
WorkUpvoter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL, that's pretty funny.
As for your description of how much Axe you put on, I have no clue if that's too much since I've never used Axe before. As I stated before, I'd axe other people if they can smell you from more than 3-4 feet away. And when you ask them, don't tell them how much you put on; it's irrelevant. If they say they can smell you, simply put on half as much, then ask them again some other day. Rinse and repeat. If they can't smell you until they're within arm's reach, then you're doing it right.
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am a lazy bastard so I am just going to go over to non scented stuff.
SwitchingLady ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I kicked two middle school students out of my class cause they bathed in axe after PE. The stuff smells cheap and horrible.
Evil_Jackal_Is_Good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:31 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so I am not in school anymore so it won't be snitching. Everybody I knew from school who bathed in axe, was a smoker. You didn't hear this from me.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:33:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
one spritz to the neck, one to one wrist, then roll the wrists over eachother. That is it with cologne, gents. It is either cologne or aftershave, you cannot have both.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like when riding a bike behind someone else and you can identify their cologne, that's too much cologne people!
visiblysane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Just to give people headaches I'll make it my life's mission to mingle 24/7 and wear my t-shirt that I held in liquid perfume at least 10 hours before wearing it.
There will be a day where people with perfume allergies can't even leave their house without smelling us, the active perfume activists.
Life without perfume is worthless!
People who work in service industry - you are all extremely fucked. Expect us. Customer is always right, I'll make sure to ask lots of questions and practically never leave!
Hostile_Unicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 sprays max. One on the torso, one on the wrist and rub that against the other wrist, and one on the back of the neck and rub it against your whole neck. It gives you a nice thin coat in respective areas where people come in contact with you.
Edit: At least for guys. Don't know about application for girls. May be the same.
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One expense less I guess.
kittypuppet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get the sneezes.
It sucks :(
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ugh. i will never use this. It smells like old men. i hate it
MyNameIsDalton ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 16:49:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I want to coat myself with cologne, I will. Don't expect anyone to cater to your expectations.
TheBlankState ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:53:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You make yourself look really insecure and immature, and give people with sensitive noses headaches.
MyNameIsDalton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The main idea of my comment is that no one deserves to be treated as special.
TheNewElite250 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:37:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a thread of specific advice that most people would find more attractive. Drowning in scents most people find repulsive, which they were noting, nobody is telling you not to do so.
Colopty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:51:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the main idea of your comment was to say that you're an ass.
MyNameIsDalton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Elaborate for me, brother.
TheRarestPepe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:55:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll help out: You're responding to advice on how to be more attractive to more people with basically "ppl can do whatever they want - fuck off."
This has no value to anyone here. Obviously you can do whatever you want. Obviously you can refuse a small piece of advice that would help many others who weren't aware they were doing something a bit repulsive. Your comment is pretty much devoid of meaning in this thread, besides making it apparent that you're a bit of an ass. Comprende?
MyNameIsDalton ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people will respect you more if you disregard them (strangers, anyway).
Colopty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wearing an inappropriate amount of ill smelling perfume isn't really a respectable quality.
jaynumbernine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, you shouldn't have to curve your behavior to satisfy everyone.
classecrified ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like someone took the confidence advice too far.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:18:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Senpai always notices
Callmebobbyorbooby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:31:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I realized this when I was younger. I was in a bar one night and a group of about 4 girls walked by. I'm 6'3 and one of the girls stopped, threw her head up, got on her tippy toes and smelled my neck and said "oh, you smell really good". It was weird, but it made me feel nice.
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did she say "fresh meat"?
KomradeKoala ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're not allowed to start fragrances at my job. :(
On the plus side it's helping my bottle of Gucci Guilty last FOREVER
Recklesslettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That perfume only smells good the day after application imho.
loptthetreacherous ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wear half a bottle every day. When I walk down the street, everybody notices me.
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what is this nice and how do i smell it
mormotomyia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
notice me
savvyxxl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Notice senpai
NikoTesla ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:17:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that. All any aftershaves and perfumes are a HUGE turn off for me (girl). And I'm not sensitive to smells, I just think it's arrogant to impose the fragrance YOU want on other people when they have no choice.
I like the smell of a clean body. THAT'S the sexiest smell.
lifeliberty ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:59:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy clothes that fit!! This is huge. You can pick great clothes you can match them and make them look awesome, but if they are too lose or too tight its all for naught.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:18:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pee on everything you see. The women will see that you are the dominant male and will all mate with you
CoolMachine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fill up on asparagus first.
Sane333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially on that damn ass gay ass rock.
gggh0st ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:02:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Guys in your 20s, start moisturizing your face before bed and in the morning.
Get a nose hair trimmer and tame that shrub.
Invest in a namebrand polo (US polo association polos routinely sell for less than $25), some namebrand jeans, and some nice shoes. If you have a hard time with fashion like I do, drag your sister or a female friend along with you.
Invest in a nice watch. Silver band for lighter skin, gold for darker skin tones. Or, get a simple band (match brown band to belt/shoes - same with black).
Touch up your facial hair everyday! If you are balding at a young age (like me) facial hair is a must - also, don't cling to those string remnants - get an electric razor and use it on your head everyday.
Buy nice smelling deodorant (degree, most axe deodorants, most old spice deodorants). Also, if you're overweight/sweat a lot, try applying baby powder to your genitals after your morning shower.
Brush your teeth in the morning evening AND FLOSS!!! I'm not a woman, but every time I see an otherwise good looking dude with plaque between his teeth I shudder. If you don't think this is an issue, go and floss right now, look at the little gaps between your teeth. People notice this.
If you don't already work out, start doing 3 sets of as many pushups as you can before you shower in the morning. I do 2 sets of 20, then 1 set of 10. This will cause your arms and chest to swell in the short term, giving an acute appearance of an established chest and if you do it long enough will GIVE you nice pecs/arms.
If you use spectacles, invest in some nice ones. Ask a friend to help you find some nice ones. Also, try contacts. I personally don't like the idea of buying $300 glasses so I wear my nerd goggles at work and just wear contacts the rest of the time.
Generally improve your life. Start making sure you regularly get 8 hours of sleep at night, eat a little healthier, work out 3 times a week. Listen more, talk less. Get some normal hobbies (canoeing, hiking, bicycling, camping, working out). It's hard to attract people when you live in your room watching netflix/playing video games all the time.
When you go out, don't get hammered - have enough drinks to get a little silly/relaxed. Try nicer beers/bars.
edit: forgot my biggest flaw here, quit smoking. It isn't cool. Smoking yellows your teeth, makes you smell constantly, causes skin to age prematurely, and reduces vascularity - gimping any workout or physical activity you might be doing.
ThatDamnRaccoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you just lost most of your target audience
Care_Cup_Is_Empty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and there goes the rest.
ihatepepperballs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the more helpful replies in the thread. Thanks!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a woman, be very careful with Axe. It goes from a nice smell to the overwhelming stench of seventh grader really quickly.
gggh0st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I should definitely add NOT the spray deodorant. There are some that smell quite nice but as far as deodorant goes they don't actually do anything.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Glad we're on the same page.
Nestorthemolestor ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:01:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut and have an opinion.
SleepNowMyThrowaway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My crew-cut is awesome.
CoolMachine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:29:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya hit 2 birds with 1 stone, son.
[deleted] ยท 708 points ยท Posted at 17:54:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ferociously whip out the D and helicopter it at max rpm to instantaneously attract all female homo sapians in the vicinity.
Consilienced ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 19:18:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confirmed. Went to mall. 2500 penile rpm by the fountain. Got a lot of attention.
atchman25 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:19:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually pretty impressive speed.
Consilienced ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:13:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
squats bro
Noumenon72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:04 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They call it a helicopter not a windmill
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's your standard method of calculating angular velocity on a rotating dong?
Antrikshy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where's the Liveleak video?
Throw_away_cant_see ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:39:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear dick stuck in cockpit, please advise
pivot5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's where it goes
ostermei ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:24:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh.
If they're homo, they ain't gonna want no D, helicopter or otherwise.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:28:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have your species mixed up, bruh. It's homo homo sapian females who won't be attracted to your aggressively rotating dick as it beautifully cuts through the air with such seductive grace, such irresistible ferocity.
BFlocka ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:24:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also known as dihomo sapian females
aznanimality ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:23:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"To impress a chick, helicopter dick"
PickYourSelfBackUp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:52:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flew to the moon n back, not a dame in sight. Feel like inspector gadget now tho.
Dethreo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PickYourselfBackUp and try again.
PickYourSelfBackUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im already at 3 or 4 on the day, Ill try again tomorrow.
RoseOfThorne ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what my husband does to me.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:04:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See what I mean guys? The dude simply follows the instructions. Then boom, he has a wife! Works every single time.
TheMexicanPenguinII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes, it works 100% of the time
MarkReefer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clockwise or counter-clockwise?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:00:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clockwise if you live in the Northern Hemisphere.
Counter clockwise is you live in the Southern Hemisphere.
getoutside307 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:47:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How's 3000 rpm sound?
Gafloff ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:36:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's enough to get your airborne, it's good.
quichagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not good enough. Must improve
rimnii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the centripetal force ripped my D apart... what now?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:06:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Selotape it.
Just be glad you're not Jim. His actually disintegrated due to generating too much penile torque.
Streetduck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
trench coat theory !
ackeba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I second this. Really sound advice for anyone looking for a total freak of a mate.
theian01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a windmill if you're standing up, and a helicopter if you're laying down.
Fan_Boyy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:01 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
North Carolina!! Come on and raise up. Whip your d out and spin it round her head like a helicopter
jakobe_malone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this & only this.
eaterofdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can just find me another job, damn you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if one of them catches it in the eye?
Chupa_Mis_Huevos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100% success rate
LateralThinkerer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Helo pilots will know this as Vtocs.
Fixed wing pilots don't need to do anything but show up.
chieftraplord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
did this in kindergarden. didnt work out. man my parents had to through a lot of bullshit that day
ioncehadsexinapool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gotta spread that seed bro
Uncle_DirtNap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Up vote for relevant username
thatto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We found the Texan.
SIC_redditcruiser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as female horno sapiens.
might_be_myself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Misread the instructions and bought a helicopter. Still works.
violetplague ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Max rpm doesn't attract so much as it sucks them in like a black hole.
shankems2000 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:57:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exorcise daily
Taucher1979 ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 23:00:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd steer clear of someone who needed to do that.
CoolMachine ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:26:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I exorcise daily by spinning my head around and puking pea soup. For cardio, I levitate.
RadsGirl ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:25:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Daily exorcism = attractiveness. Got it!
xXVoicesXx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:19:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd give gold if I wasn't broke.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:49:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident in getting across what you do and do not like. Nothing is worse than trying to make decisions for someone who says "I don't know" or "whatever you want" to everything. It may be a small thing, but it makes a huge difference in others perception of you.
relatablerobot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This a million times. I've had multiple girlfriends who suffered from this syndrome. "Where would you like to eat?" "I dunno." It is so frustrating being in charge of what happens in our day all the time. How do I know you're happy if you never have an opinion on anything? Stop being a child and tell me your thoughts, it's not as though you telling me how you feel is gonna make me fly off the handle.
Walking_Anachronism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very sound advice. Coincidentally, I had this conversation last night with a friend who was inquiring about my dating experience. I relayed the wincing story of the multiple girls I've shared a meal with and they often just say, "I don't know," "I guess," or "It doesn't matter to me." Gees. Humor me at least and make something up. The ambiguity is a major turn off. The uncertainty leads me to prejudge future scenarios with you and having to guide your decision making.
rahyveshachr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this a lot, like when I kind of don't want to do something and my husband goes "Well, do you want it or not?" and then I get all wishy washy because I don't want to do the thing a disservice by not choosing it and saying "I dunno... I kinda... Well if you want to...." is nicer than giving a solid answer. Drives him nuts and I'm working on it.
Ennion ยท 1090 points ยท Posted at 18:06:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Don't be fat. How many great looking fat people do you see and then think, "I would love to have sex with that person"? None.
Silentwes ยท 181 points ยท Posted at 20:28:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too much scrolling to get to this. Anyone who's ever lost weight will tell you this is the gospel truth. When I was big, it was such an effort to get a girl to give me the time of day. Met a great girl when I was heavy and lost the weight and she's the one who has to tell me "um that girl was thirsty as hell and you think people are just nicer all of the sudden for no reason?"
Ennion ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 21:44:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I posted this. Great insight. Usually I am downvoted for being honest in these kind of threads. It's not fat people hate, it's just truth. Exceptions to to the 'rule' excluded.
eaterofdog ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 20:03:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's be honest it's "I'm desperate enough to have sex with that person"
nerdyfanboy1 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 18:30:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear alot of females want to fuck Seth rogen
Ennion ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 18:31:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok to be fat and a rich movie star/producer.
nerdyfanboy1 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 18:34:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody says they wanna fuck Kevin Smith though
Silentwes ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:26:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yet the guy still married way out of his league. Hell he'd be the first to tell you that probably.
easterhangover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:53 on February 1, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An attractive Asian chick literally called him sexy in one of his "Evening With"s
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:04:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because hes tall,smiles,and has hair.
DrEmilioLazardo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:40:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But Jonah Hill hasn't even seen a vagina in real life.
BEER_ME_THAT_BAGEL ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:14:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah man, that dude does just fine for himself
laga18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:44 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay Jonah
chubbylittlemonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:21 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OH JONAH
NigerianRoyalties ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:46:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a male celebrity, the camera deducts 10 lbs
Mr_Aids ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He isn't really that fat though.
kangareagle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They've gotten to know him (or what they think is him). Yes, he's rich or whatever, but really it's that he's funny and articulate.
Be funny and articulate and even if you don't turn heads, certain girls will like you when they get to know you.
But if people didn't know who Seth Rogan was, they probably wouldn't see him from afar and come running.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No fucking way. I dont believe you
HeylebItsCaleb ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:38:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the realest answer in this whole thread
[deleted] ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 21:02:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A girl in my swim class was by no means skinny. She was gorgeous. She was also a great swimmer.
I feel like there's a visual difference between someone who is in shape and likes food vs someone who is fat bc they don't take care of themselves.
royisabau5 ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 23:51:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but exceptions do NOT prove the rule here. The majority of Americans could stand to lose a few pounds, and convincing themselves that they are "fat but still in shape" is not gonna help. If you are fat, and you think you get an adequate amount of attention from people, and even get laid now and again, then don't change anything, I guess. But if you do want more from life, lose the weight. Don't talk yourself out of it because other people are fat and do fine if YOU aren't happy.
KuntaStillSingle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:59:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously this is subjective. Some people are into scat, but generally the less covered in shit you are the more attractive you are.
Fallenangel152 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:41:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weight looks better on women than men. Bigger girls get bigger boobs, bigger butts and unless they go too far, get a great curvy figure.
There are no fetishes for fat men.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ever heard of Bears?
Fallenangel152 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:06 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Err, no. I'm assuming it's a fat man fetish? Is that a thing?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:19 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude scat is a fetish, of course some people are into fat men. It's one of the least weird fetishes
anoobitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:56:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whales usually are very good swimmers.
mofomeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:51 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OMG this comment was a nugget of joy after 4 days of digging. high fives
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:34:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Rng-Jesus ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:34:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I like how whenever someone says they don't find fat girls attractive, someone instantly brings up "curvy" girls. Like you said, there's a difference between curvy, and a miniature planet
violetplague ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:40:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Planet is a bit excessive, more like a moon.
Wait, that's no moon...
QUEENROLLINS ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:34:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...Everyone has folds in certain positions... right guys? (150lb 5'7 girl here lol)
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:12:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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QUEENROLLINS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh thank god ok
Photovoltaic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a post on /r/fitness asking people with 6 pack abs what they looked like sitting down
Rolls. Rolls everywhere. 6 packs and "flat tummies" are only a thing when you're standing up and potentially flexing.
Edit: Everyone's talking about your ass, but I have to ask, what kind of dog is that? It looks like my beardie!
QUEENROLLINS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh thank god, haha! and yes, he's a Beardie and the love of my life ๐ such amazing dogs!
Photovoltaic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another person has a beardie! My poor beardie old (He's getting on to be 10 now). But he's SO FLUFFY AND ADORABLE
QUEENROLLINS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awwww, mine's getting on for 10 now too!! Honestly I can't imagine a sweeter, smarter dog. Long shot, but are you from England? If so, what line is your dog from? They might be siblings, haha - there's not too many of them out there!
Photovoltaic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, New Yorker, VERY far away. Maybe beardies are more common there, I mean, they ARE herding dogs!
You're right that there aren't many out there. We met our's brother at a dog park once. So much fluff.
QUEENROLLINS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, damn! And I've actually never seen another beardie irl other than at shows! I think our breeder holds a deep resentment for us since he's supposed to be a show dog and he's a family pet... we cut him a fringe in. She'd probably cry if she saw.
They really should be more popular dogs!
Photovoltaic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ours also sports a puppy coat mostly, dad's been lazy about brushing him.
Beardie don't care, beardie just wants treats and pets. Mostly on the butt/hips. Massage the hips!
I don't know why they're not more popular tbh.
QUEENROLLINS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OMG yes I thought that was just my dog! Scratching his hip and his jaw makes him do the Beardie ecstasy groan hahaha. (did not intend that to sound so weird)
Photovoltaic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does yours walk up to you and present his butt/hips for rubbing? Ours does.
Dad will be sitting their watching TV. Beamer (dog) walks up, turns around, then looks behind him. "Please, rub my hips!"
derpbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have a nice ass.
QUEENROLLINS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
aw, thanks :)
Jealousy123 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:05:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, wow. I thought derpbit was just throwing that out there as a cheap generic compliment like you'd see creepy guys on /r/gonewild post. But that ass is legitimately amazing.
Jesus.
8696David ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:58:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same wtf
Ennion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right on the cash my friend.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my language we call them 'tires'.
StaticasaurusRex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:04:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. I am so fucking tired of being told I am a pig for not being attracted to someone because they are fat. I am like a lot of others here: I like a bit of curve. I draw the line at folds. By extension, I also can't fucking stand the fat acceptance movement. Alright, you want people to accept you and all your extra poundage. Fine. But I don't have to be attracted to you.
screenwriterjohn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been very overweight, but losing weight cannot be easy.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Working on this
thesweetestpunch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BBW porn is the most popular sub-genre.
If skinny is Coke, then fat is Pepsi.
Puppybeater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:33:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've heard of "but-her-faces" that is an attractively shaped woman with an slightly askew face, so why are you unfamiliar with a "but-her-body" a woman with a gorgeous face, fun personality, well endowed chest buttocks etc it's all in the proportions see the underlying potential/beauty. Want to find a woman who truly loves every iota of your being? Find a bigger woman and over time watch them transform into dime pieces - with a sweet funny warm intelligent personality. Have you ever perhaps had too much to drink and drunkenly made out with a plus size woman. Were they not one of the best kissers imaginable? Could such qualities transfer to other areas of the bedroom?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, as someone who is overweight but actively working to fix it, the whole "its fine to be fat" thing is nuts. Its unhealthy and saying otherwise seems like nothing but denial. By all means learn to accept your self but part of that is accepting that your lifestyle is unhealthy.
Niqgaplease ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:01:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Savage lmfao
IAmTheRedWizards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh...how fat? Because I do this all the time.
prinsesss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was fat I had a lot more men interested in me. Im quite curvy now, not fat (no really, I have posted pictures from before and after) and while I think I look better now, people tend to disagree
guaranic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol who disagrees?
GrandmaFetish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhhh plenty actually
iPlaya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ron Jeremy??
overzealous_bicycle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This cut me deep
Jerilo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's... Mostly a matter of preference though. Imho some girls can pull it off, but nearly no guys can. (I've yet to see one, anyway.)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, there's Nick Offerman just to say I did it but that's about it
PandaLovingLion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gabe Newell :D
Thisdarlingdeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about Ron Jeremy?
CoffeeAndSwords ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking as someone who has lost a lot of weight.
This is absolutely correct, but for different reasons than you might imagine. Once I lost weight, I found well fitting clothes, had better posture, was more confident, and a nicer person (a result of the self discipline required and built by weight loss). Losing weight doesn't just make you less fat, it makes you more attractive.
wpiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being filthy rich seems to counter act this.
Kaell311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was going to say: eat less
Thatoneguywhofailed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno man, Paul Blart really gets me wheels spinning.
Mighty_Chondrian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta love a good dad bod
eatmydonuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
triggered
Kukijiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many.
JungleMidgets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No matter what anyone says, this is completely true. And you can do something about your weight i promise, I used to be overweight and then i decided to change that and lost 50 pounds and now I'm lengthy and verging a 6-pack. It's not easy but it becomes habit to work out and eat right and I have much more endurance which makes it easy to do fun stuff and also being thinner makes me much more confident than i used to be.
Haleljacob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially important for women
B4107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zack Galifinakis 10/10
Ennion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He isn't fat.
B4107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just did a google search, He is quite a bit smaller than the last time I remember seeing him in a movie, which has been quite a few years, my bad
RuneKatashima ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:47 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are men and women who like fat people though and while it's not super common, it's more common than you think.
I have a fat friend from high school who just gets all the girls because he's a genuinely decent person to be around.
All you have to do is be interesting.
Yaags ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:01 on January 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"If you don't have sex with someone because they're 900 pounds, that's oppression" - Anthony Fantano
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Ennion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man society really hates heavy people. Ftfy.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not obese people, but there are a good amount of mildly overweight people I'm attracted to
GringodelRio ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 20:13:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are people out there who don't have your tastes... just a FYI.
Ennion ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:19:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, there are exceptions to every rule.
thisisthinprivilege ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're fetishists since beauty is an objective standard and, if you're fat, then by definition you're neither beautiful nor healthy. They're mutually exclusive. The only people who actively sleep with fat women/men are those with no other viable options and fetishists. Given a choice the vast majority of people prefer those who are height/weight appropriate and fit.
MumBum ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:09:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I'm chubby or maybe I'm fat. I'm 5'6 and I'm 210 lbs. But let me tell you, I have about five guys trying to fuck me. Attractive guys. Skinny guys. Very fit guys. I have a cute face, a wicked sense of humour and I'm a good listener. And a sweet ass. Yes my thighs are thick and I have a chubby stomach. I birthed three children. But my confidence is high, since five guys are actively trying to fuck me.
FYI I'm not fucking them - I'm in a long term relationship. They are aware I'm not going to fuck them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MumBum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. So be it.
palepeachghost ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 18:39:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes you see a big boy/girl and just need to take a bite.
zedoktar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:58:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like riding a moped though. Fun, but don't let your friends catch you doing it.
tinoasprilla ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:37:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
r/BBw would like a word
EkriirkE ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:06:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A fetish is a fetish because it's not generally accepted.
frostcornettos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if you mean /r/bbq or /r/bbw
tinoasprilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao I meant the latter
arostganomo ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:38:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've seen quite a few. Seth Rogen, Chris Pratt in his chubby days, I would even have done Jack Black when he was a little younger.
RadicalDog ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:10:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anna Faris did so damn well. Married a funny, chubby guy who became action-hero hot and action-hero rich.
TherapeuticThrowback ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:47:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:52:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/gonewildplus
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:32:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GabeN
ArmyOfDix ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:42:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Former best friend of mine was 5'11" and 260lbs; a fatass. He banged over 150 different women by age 25. Many of them were hot.
There should be a huuuuge asterisk next to this "tip".
EDIT: Don't hate just because a beluga whale got more tail than you. Step up your game and you won't have time to downvote truths on reddit.
Ennion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is the 'Chris Farley' exclusion rule for exceptions, but not asterisk worthy.
SimplyCapital ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Fat people are not only gross but it's also a sign someone lacks motivation and self-control. Two major character flaws.
Ennion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I wouldn't say gross, but just not a huge sexual attraction.
Most_Juan_Ted ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:33:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This actually depends. In some cultures (even in America) being slim isn't attractive.
TerrorTanuki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think its that being slim isn't attractive, it's just that not being slim isn't attractive.
Most_Juan_Ted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As I said in my previous post, in some cultures, being slim is not attractive. To each his own.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 18:21:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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pamplemouss ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:12:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cara Delavigne's thick brows work bc they are distinct (not unibrow) and neat.
Grymninja ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:59:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to see this. Get your eyebrows under control it makes a huge difference. I have my stylist do my eyebrows around once a month and it really doesn't hurt that much. Hot wax and rip, 10 seconds of pain max. Completely opens up your face and accentuates the eyes, you'll look so much more well groomed
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:36:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll, um... I'll pass.
Kyrru ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:53:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel. Also, don't be shy to pluck them yourself if you don't wanna spend money. Just grab a good pair of tweezers and take off anything that doesn't look right.
tortillaandcheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just be conservative. I focused on cleaning up one area at a time, letting it grow out once and redoing it just to sort of solidify that it was what I wanted, before going and doing the inner half of the brow or whatever. You don't wanna do something too drastic that can potentially take a long ass time to grow back.
MatttheBruinsfan ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:09:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think for guys, having shaggy brows or a unibrow are a lot more forgivable than the overplucked look. I mean, contrast Joey Lawrence or Jared Padalecki with Tyler Hoechlin, for example.
Skyblacker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:20:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those guys may follow the natural line of their brows, but there is obviously some maintenance there. They're at least plucking above the nose to separate a unibrow.
MatttheBruinsfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first two are examples of guys who have overdone the plucking and verge on drag queen territory.
Skyblacker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The third guy definitely separates a unibrow.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MatttheBruinsfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Barring an eyebrow pencil, the only thing I can think of is making them appear thicker by rubbing against the grain and then keeping your hands away from them so you don't unconsciously smooth them down. (The opposite works to make my somewhat bushy ones look neater without any trimming.)
At least it's natural and not a bad fashion choice?
ChaoticxSerenity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:52:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it fucking hurts and I am a huge pansy :(
Don't have a monobrow, though, so I've got that going for me...
baitnnswitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. I ended up buying nail scissors and cutting the hairs instead of plucking.
0j0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Cutting is important too in eyebrow grooming but only to shorten the hairs that stick out once you've combed them up. You still need to pluck those above and under your definition line. Something like this. I've plucked for sixteen years now... It doesn't hurt, it even feels hygienic.
baitnnswitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean that I cut the hairs down to the root that need removing. It works well enough.
0j0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you! I guess it surprises me because the root is usually the thick, most visible part in my eyebrows, but that may be proper to ones that are plucked regularly.
TheMoffalo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends are all convinced I pluck my eyebrows, they don't believe me when I say I'm blessed with perfectly shaped eyebrows.
fnybny ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most white guys don't have to pluck.
corgisandcuteguys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm white and I have to. :(
GringodelRio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:15:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drawn on eyebrows... they do not look good.
helithium ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:26:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no...badly drawn on eyebrows don't look good
kaizex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im in the middle. If you pluck and touch up with an actual eyebrow tool, then it can look good. If you literally take them all of then you look like a chica cholo. There has to be some hair to give a look of fullness otherwise even a nice eyebrow pen looks like sharpie
helithium ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:02:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
eyebrow adjustment is not limited to just tools and pens. personally, i just use a tweezer to clean my brows up. there are pomades, powders, creams, and more. you can thread, pluck, wax, and shave brows, but the only ones people tend to notice are the bad ones. when people say "drawn on brows looks bad" what they mean is "i'm only picking out the bad examples, because well drawn-on brows look too real to notice".
this was posted recently on /r/MakeupAddiction, it's an excellent example of how someone with barely any eyebrow hairs can create an amazingly real eyebrow look. now consider that most people do have a decent amount of eyebrow hairs. you're thinking clara bow type brows, but the reality is many many people fill in or "draw on" their brows very often.
kaizex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres still a clear loss of definition in the link you posted though, thats the unreal part, you can change the shading and tweak it around all you want but you cant really recreate the volume of hair as it actually sticks out of your face.
Im aware that many people fill in their brows, and many do it well,but the key is to not take out too much hair otherwise the end result will always be smooth, which will look very unnatural at a second glace. That being said, most fill ins are done expertly well, and i dont mean to put down those with thin eyebrow hair, as you dont get a choice in the matter theres many things you can do with what you have that look very natural and full. But if you decide to take a wax strip to your face and remove every last brow hair, you will never recreate what was there in a natural way
CoolMachine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at you, men over 60.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p1aG61TxqA . watch the heck outta this guy
Moffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I started plucking my brows fairly recently as the monobrow really was showing. This video helped a little bit of (despite the stupid source: alpha m image consulting?!) but I haven't got the guts to do anything with scissors :/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use the scissors regularly, just brush them upward, then trim along the top line
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have actually been blessed with really great eye brows, i never really thought people gave a shit till a couple people pointed it out
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:06:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Under no circumstances should you EVER consider a comb over a viable option. If you're balding, just let it go. Own it and shave it.
thesoupwillriseagain ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:16:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Peel the skin off beautiful people and make a body suit out of it.
0x0000008E ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:51:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I left reddit due to censorship and replaced my posts with this message.
BlastoiseRules ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:12:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men: Please try to look decent/clean. I don't care how much girls love it when you're slumming it in sweats or if you think skinny jeans are stupid (I'm not saying everyone should be wearing skinny jeans but I hope you get the point). No matter who you are, the moment you start styling your hair a little bit, wearing clothes that fit properly and a little stylish, and carry yourself like the awesome hot adult you are, you'll start turning heads.
A fat guy with decent hair and clothes probably gets a lot more ass than just a regular fat guy.
GoHiroki ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:12:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Drink plenty of water. Hydration helps fill out fine lines, even skin tone, increase skin turgor, and reduce acne. It's also good for your kidneys, filtering the blood, and overall health.
widermind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how much water?
Neoncolorzhd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2 liters or 1/2 gallon
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If my lips are always chapped and I have a white tongue, that's a sign of dehydration right?
mirkolone ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:51:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, seriously
GringodelRio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But don't smile forcefully. If people think you're that guy from the Enzyte commercial, you're going to weird people out.
Animal_shapes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:27:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make eye contact. Swallow.
maidendetroit ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 17:54:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from a small midwestern town. Any time I go to the local Kroger there at least 90% of the people, minus employees, are in their pajamas. This is anytime of the day on any given day of the week. It's really kinda sad. I'm all for being comfortable but unless you are a coach or just leaving the gym how hard is it to put on a real pair of pants to go out in public? It seems like no one cares about their appearance anymore. Same with airports. My dad always wore a sport coat when we flew anywhere. Mostly because he didn't have to pack it then but still. It's nice to see people put a little effort into their appearance.
richalex2010 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:32:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fine wearing normal clothes (mostly jeans for me) everywhere, but I can definitely see wearing something super comfortable like pajamas on an airplane. You're going to be sitting in a confined space for a few hours, why wear something that will make you uncomfortable? It's not like you're trying to be social or impress anyone anyways, enjoy the flight and dress well when you reach your destination.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:03:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Skyblacker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:11:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smart. That said, there's something to be said for packing a pair of slippers in your carry-on. Seat belts on = shoes off.
Han_Can ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:51:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I've flown I dress for comfort. Especially on those overnight flights. Yoga pants can be just too tight for that, sometimes soft and loose pajama-esque bottoms are the way to go
Stormhammer ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 18:41:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll quote my roomie, "who do I have to impress?"
New_Acts ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:53:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The corny-correct answer: Yourself.
Feeling good about yourself leads to you feeling more confident and thats one of those truisms that confident people look confident. Its an attractive trait.
If someone isn't interested in that. Thats fine. its all situational. You wouldn't wear a tux to go get gas in the middle of the night.
But its not a stretch to say people who don't take any care of their appearance in dress or hygiene, probably don't have the greatest opinion of themselves
rabidassbaboon ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:17:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's definitely situational. I'll clean myself up if I'm going out for a while but if I'm just running to the store to get milk or something, as long as my balls and ass aren't showing, I'll pretty much wear whatever I've got on. I'm generally just trying to get that over with as quickly as possible.
11415142513152119 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:44:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I totally understand this but too many times have I gone to do some mundane thing only to decide while I'm out to do something else only to be prohibited by my own frumpyness. Now, I like to dress for anything, within reason, because if you're prepared for anything, anything can happen.
rahyveshachr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I do. I could live in my XXL sweatpants (I'm not fat, just love baggy clothes) but I take the time to put on jeans when I go out. Besides the obvious frump factor there's a good chance of them falling off if they get caught on something or if my kids grab onto them to climb up me.
DirectlyDisturbed ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:35:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This seems accurate to me. I live twenty seconds from a grocery store and if I'm going there to grab one or two things than I could not give a flying fuck about changing. Feeling great about your style in public is one thing, feeling comfortable for a ten minute chore is another
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:38:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I do too. Basically if I'm going to be out in public for more than ~20 minutes then I'll change, but fuck the world if I'm just going to grab one thing I forgot from the store. The person you replied to mentioned dressing to impress yourself, which I completely agree with. I love dressing nicely and feeling hawt, but only when it's not an inconvenience for me.
FuckClinch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do I have to care about how I look?! I barely ever see me!! I'm dressing nice in order to maximise the preferential treatment people get for looking better. Aint getting any of that at maccys
kangareagle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:46:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"What are simple things you can do to make yourself more attractive?"
Answer given.
Response: Why do I have to care about how I look?!
FuckClinch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I obviously meant it in terms of the discussion of going to a maccy-d's, MCdons, McDo etc etc...
Just trying to have some discussion on this online forum for discussing things m9
kangareagle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People that you might want to attract go to those same places. Have you never seen an attractive person there?
EDIT: Discuss all you want, mate. Go for it. I was making a point about the thing you said while you were discussing.
FuckClinch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So i've seen attractive people sure, but if i'm going to a fast food place i'm not about to strike up a conversation with a random stranger!
Edit: KK sorry think I misread the tone of your comment =]
kangareagle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To quote a cliche: not with that attitude.
You're at a fast food place and some attractive people of the gender that you like take a table next to you. You don't really care if you're attractive to them.
Well ok, but I think that you're in the minority of single people. The advice is there, and you obviously don't have to take it!
FuckClinch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Might be a cultural thing! Don't think me or any of my mates would randomly start up a conversation with people the table over (UK)
kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not really talking about starting a conversation.
FuckClinch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay now i'm super confused - if i'm going to have no interaction with them then I just have no reason to care
kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I answered this in reply to your other comment:
You never know if you'll see them again.
It's nice when people think you're attractive (as I said, maybe you don't care if random people think you're attractive. I think most people would like to be thought attractive).
Sometimes, they take the initiative even if you don't.
FuckClinch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of interest are you American?
Cheers for the advice!
kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heheh, I am. But I still wouldn't go talk to a stranger in a fast food place (or even a bar. Or even a party, really, except to make a joke if we were both waiting for the bathroom or something).
But even if you don't start a conversation, it's nice to have them notice you. And you never know whether you'll see the same person around town again another time. Nice to think that they might remember you. And every once in a while you get a girl who's actually bold.
Those days are over for me, because I'm happily married. But even so, I still want girls to think I look good!
FuckClinch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guess people are just different! Tend to not notice strangers in public unless i'm specifically people-watching
Bedtime for me now anyway pal nn thanks for responding!
kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well there you go. But people might notice you, and if you want them to think you look good, then... but we've been through that.
Ok, take care.
saracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between giving the advice of "Put some effort into the way you look!" and "DON'T EVER GO OUT IN PUBLIC IN SWEATPANTS YOU FILTHY CASUAL. EVEN FOR A MINUTE"
kangareagle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:21:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And there's a difference between saying to wear pants to go out vs. saying what you just said.
People see pretty girls while shopping for groceries. If you want to be more attractive to them, don't be wearing pajamas. That's the advice anyway.
saracuda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:22:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fine, but that's not what the OP said.
kangareagle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:31:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP literally said to not wear pajamas while grocery shopping.
This is a thread about being more attractive. The advice is to get out of your pajamas when you're in public. There might be people you want to attract out there.
saracuda ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP is worded it in a way that was meant to shame people. That isn't the same as the advice you assumed it was. If all they wanted to do was give the advice to make an effort in public, they would've said that. Instead, they said people shouldn't wear comfy clothes at places like the grocery store or the airport, and that it's sad.
kangareagle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I replied to someone who asked why he should bother wearing better clothes when he goes for fast food. I don't think that OP's shaming or not has anything to do with it.
To me, the key point is that it's nice to see people put in effort, so put in some effort to look more attractive. Is he or she shaming these groups of anonymous people who wear pajamas to the grocery store? I don't see how. That's not what shame means to me, but it's beside the point because I'm talking about how to be more attractive.
saracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think maybe I projected other user's responses onto the OP's original message and continued to read it in that tone. There are quite a few people on here saying that no one should ever wear lounge wear in public (to a place like a grocery store), which is dumb.
I think specifying the places is what made me think this wasn't good advice, but you are right. If you're trying to attract someone random at a random location, dress for it.
thepinkservbot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sort of distrusting of anyone who doesn't run errands as comfortably as possible. If I never see someone in sweats or PJs or their comfortable jeans and flip-flops or whatever, all it suggests to me is vanity and an inability to relax.
knoxvomica ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
K but its not like jogging pants and a frumpy sweater are THAT much more comfortable than a pair of fitted pants and a polo or nice fitting t-shirt.
thepinkservbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, if it's what you'd obviously lounge around the house in, and I ain't seeing your junk, I think it's all fair game if we're talking about when at Walmart or whatever.
Stormhammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, he does have meh self-esteem, is married too lol
He bought pajamas that look like jeans just so he could wear them out going to Kroger or Waffle House or something.
Kingsley7zissou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
College was actually kind of depressing because of all the pajamas and shit. Good looking people looking like trash bags.
Stormhammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll admit I was guilty of wearing my pajamas to my 7am accounting class.
SweetRaus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the Midwest. It's just what they do there.
Source: grew up on the Wisconsin/Illinois border.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
So true. I started dressing better, and now I'm all like "DAMN, you're killin' it!" all the time. I feel super sexy, and confident!
dryj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone needs that. I dress up if I want to look good, and I don't if I don't. I talked to someone once who did her whole makeup/dressup thing even going to the store for milk. Some people are confident whatever they're wearing.
SignorSarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And in the off chance you see someone you'd like to impress and you're in pajamas... Sucks to suck.
kangareagle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:45:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or they don't have the greatest opinion of the way they look.
Alcopaulics ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:02:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was my mindset until recently. The older I get the less comfortable I am looking like a bum in public. I've noticed people treat you way nicer if you dress even decently well. That leads to higher confidence/self esteem, which in itself is the best life hack you can do.
It's about the way you present yourself to the world. I'm not saying be Barney Stinson and wear a suit everywhere, just don't wear sweats and a shirt 3 sizes too big when you leave the house. You'd be amazed how much better people will treat you when you don't look like a dumpster fire
Stormhammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or, if you are going to wear sweats, for fucks sake makes sure they're clean and not stained.
Alcopaulics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say if you're past college age, unless you're going to the gym/workout/do something physical don't wear sweats at all in public. No such thing as nice sweats. But yes if you're going to wear anything probably a good idea to make sure it's clean.
OBVIOUSLY_NOT_JEWISH ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yourself
kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, since this is a thread about being more attractive, the answer is: whoever you want to attract.
Stormhammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's married, so I think he's past that point lmao
kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You were quoting him, so I assumed that you meant that you agreed with his position. Are you married?
Otherwise, I don't understand your comment.
Stormhammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I was just quoting him as an anecdote to why people wear that out in public places.
kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, well, they're probably not all married and some are probably interested in what they can do to be more attractive.
I_Photoshop_Movies ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:19:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you in this thread then? You could just quote your roommate to every answer here for gods sake.
16ShinyUmbreon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:13:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still in college and I'd say about half the student population arrives to class in their pajamas or sweatpants. Heck, when I go to the grocery store it's the same deal. I just can't bring myself to do that... I think the only time I went out in my pj's was to the grocery store at 2 am.
GringodelRio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:06:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Going to the store in your PJ's is only tolerated at 2 AM.
Especially if you're standing there holding diapers/formula/ice cream and pickles.
Seriously, nobody questions shit when you're obviously in your PJs at 2 AM holding baby stuff or preggo wife stuff.
16ShinyUmbreon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:09:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol!! Not gonna lie I think I was getting ice cream as well.
saracuda ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:43:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Grocery stores and airports are two places that I definitely don't put an effort into my appearance. I won't know anyone there, I'm not interacting with anyone except the cashier and bagger, I'm not there to impress anyone. Same thing goes for the airport if it's a long flight. Going through security sucks when you're dressed up, and then you're going to sit in a small space with limited airflow for hours. My skin gets oily on flights, and I curl up to sleep - I'm not going to spend time on my makeup just to have it get fucked up, or get my nice clothes wrinkled because some guy thinks I don't care about my appearance.
You wanna judge people on how much they care about their appearance? Judge them at a location where you're supposed to care about the way you look: working with clients, out to lunch or dinner, a night out, a party. When someone shows up to sushi night wearing their pajama bottoms and a tank top then you can say, "Ah, yeah that person probably doesn't care about their appearance".
I can't be assed to put on real clothes and makeup to go get eggs so that some random can be reassured that I take care of myself in the other 98% of my life.
Edit: Listen, if you're rebutting this with anything other than the truth that you believe people have an obligation to you to look nice, to please your eyes, then you're lying to yourself. At least be honest about it. This isn't about people feeling good about themselves, this is about how people make you feel with the way they look.
jenseits ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I put a LOT of thought into what I'm wearing to the airport, but it's all about comfort and convenience. It's not that I'm thoughtless or sloppy, it's just that there's nothing less annoying than showing up to an airport in a structured jacket, a shirt that will get untucked, shoes I need to unlace and relace, etc etc. I want something that won't wrinkle and smell when I get off the plane, comfortable shoes I won't slip in when I'm running to the gate, and enough pockets to fit the crap I need to have handy. Given that 90% of the people I'll run into at the airport have the same concerns, I'm not worried about being judged.
maidendetroit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like I said, my hometown is a very small town. I have never gone into that Kroger and not ran into someone I know. Not that I care to impress them per se but how are jeans, leggings, khakis that uncomfortable? I don't need to know what these people sleep in. I don't look at is as trying to impress someone, it's more of common sense for me. What if you are in an accident on your way to or from said public place? Do you really want to be sitting around waiting for the police/tow-truck whatever in your pajamas? Who knows what could happen while you're out running your run of the mill errands. I'm not judging anyone. That's just my personal choice. I don't find wearing jeans that unbearable.
saracuda ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:25:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't phase me whatsoever. It's not like I'm going to go out for groceries and accidentally end up at a formal gala event. You are judging people, you're making the assumption that they don't care about their appearance based off of a single interaction.
If your town is as small as you say and you're running into people you know constantly then you should reasonably be able to know, based on your other interactions with, if they're always wearing pajamas and lazy clothes everywhere they go or if they just wear them when they're running quick errands.
No one said jeans, leggings, khakis etc. aren't uncomfortable, my yoga pants that I'm already wearing are just more comfortable and already on me.
If you feel that you need to look nice wherever you go, then go you. That's great. Just don't call others sad because they aren't compelled to do the same.
maidendetroit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm certainly not trying to offend you and I wasn't referring to any particular person as "sad". I think it is sad in general that the majority of people where I am from do not seem to make an effort in public as far as their appearance is concerned. One or two people in their pajamas while I am grabbing groceries on my lunch hour at noon on a Tuesday is not something I would take notice of. I am saying that the overwhelming majority of the public is dressed like they are going to bed. The thread asked what are simple things that an individual can do to make themselves seem more attractive. IMO, dressing appropriate in public settings is something that qualifies this. To each his own. Also, it's 11 degrees where I am right now so PJs ain't going to cut it as far as practicality/comfort is concerned.
saracuda ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't insult me, I'm just pointing out the ridiculous nature of what your post was specifically talking about: not looking your best in a temporary public setting, such as an airport or grocery store.
Dressing nicer is great advice for what the thread is calling for. Specifically referencing when running an errand or at the airport isn't.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, why would we change an entire outfit just to run to the store? If I'm home and I need something, I'm putting shoes on and going to get it. I'm just as confident in my sweats as I am in my "nice" work clothes.
ALittleFrittata ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:46:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love this line! Yoga pants forever :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why? Are pajamas really that terrible that you don't want to see them? They are just comfortable clothes, not some kind of taboo thing that you should never see.
Sure, who cares? Why should I care what someone else thinks of me? I dress to impress myself, not others. I love dressing up, but I do it for myself. If I get stuck somewhere not dressed up what I'm wearing is the least of my problems.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree with this.
ALittleFrittata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. If I want to impress someone, I will, and I know I can. I'm not going to put on eyeliner just to pick up some tomato soup in the middle of winter. If I'm going out somewhere to represent, or if I feel like getting laid, yes -- you will see effort. If someone sees me in yoga pants while I'm at a gas station, tough shit. My purpose for being there has nothing to do with looking attractive anyway.
arostganomo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Preach. People who clutch their pearls when they spot someone in cotton pants while they're obviously just getting milk from the store across the street need to get some perspective.
GringodelRio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can put effort into your appearance without taking a lot of time. If you're a female (assumed based of makeup comment), putting your hair up and throwing on decent jeans, a decent top, and nice tennis shoes looks a lot better than daffy duck PJ bottoms, a hoodie, and cartoon slippers.
The former looks like you're active. The latter just looks lazy.
saracuda ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:14:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do I need to look like anything other than lazy for 10 - 30 minutes in public?
hugehunk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:27:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't. I have no idea what the people in this thread are getting so uptight about what other people do. I (a guy) will wear gym shorts in the middle of winter occasionally if I'm just running in and grabbing something at the store. Should I be putting on nice jeans and throwing my pea coat on? Unbelievable
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I just did this the other day. Wearing my workout shorts and wanted to go grab something from Walmart. It was probably 30 degrees out, freezing as hell and snowing but I was only going to be outside for literally 30 seconds while I walked to, and from, my car.
I completely agree with dressing for yourself when you're going out for longer periods of time, but I don't need to make myself look good for the world if I'm just going to go out for 5 minutes. The world doesn't own my body, and I owe nothing to the random strangers I meet. If I decide to dress up, it's for myself. Everyone else's opinion of me does not matter.
thepinkservbot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can get away with it, though, ya hunk.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't if you don't mind people treating you like you're a lazy slob. How you appear conveys information whether you intend to or not.
saracuda ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've never been treated like a lazy slob at a grocery store or airport when I wear pj's, by the employees or patrons. If you treat people poorly because they look lazy in a temporary environment then you're simply an asshole.
How, exactly, do you treat slobs?
Or in general, how is a slob supposed to be treated? What is the stereotypical treatment of a slob?
GringodelRio ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:42:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose I should have said "viewed as", but there are plenty of ways people treat those who look slovenly different. Do you cheerfully greet the greasy bum? Or do you leave them alone.
The bigger question: why do you disrespect yourself so much to allow others, regardless if they're strangers, to purposefully think negatively of you?
It's akin to purposefully not showering. Convenient, but everyone thinks you smell like a barn animal. Your looks get to write the narrative of what others think of you. You may decide it has no bearing, but you don't know if the person you're sitting next to on a flight is going to later be in your business meeting, or interviewing you for a job.
I lived my entire life with people disrespecting me, so the idea of purposefully conveying to someone a message that I'm a slob seems very backwards.
saracuda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You're putting a lot of stock into a superficial aspect to base a person's entire life off of with a sliver of a moment in a place that doesn't require any specific attire. Comparing pajamas or sweatpants to a someone in rags, dirty, or unhygienic? Please. It is in no way comparable to not showering.
So the fuck what if someone who ends up interviewing you sees you wear sweatpants at the grocery store? What are they going to think, "Oh my god, this well dressed, well spoken, and very qualified person in front of me was wearing sweatpants where others could see them?! Clearly I can't be associated with such filth".
No, doesn't fucking happen. Not unless the job you're interviewing for extends outside of the office, like you're a public figure or something.
When you see a person in their PJ's picking up the onion they forgot for their omellete, maybe just think about the fact that you have no idea what is going in their life at that moment in time and you are in no position to pass judgement - especially off of a singular thing such as what they are wearing.
If they squat down and take a shit in the middle of the aisle, feel free to be like "Oh, that person probably isn't doing so well...", but pajamas? Get over yourself.
Edit: Oh, and for the record, being lazy is not equivalent of being a slob - especially when you're simply being lazy, not a lazy person. Two completely different things and you thinking the two are one and the same is inane.
I'm lazy on Sunday when I decide to not make my bed until after I've had breakfast.
A lazy slob doesn't throw away the pizza that's been left out on the counter for 3 weeks.
Either one of those two people could wear any number of clothing at any given time.
GringodelRio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Conversely I think you put too little stock in it. But whatever, to each their own.
saracuda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I guess that's the difference between being an uptight, judgemental person and realistic.
And for FFS, I put too little stock in appearance because I think people should wear whatever they feel like at a grocery store? You have no idea what I think is appropriate for any other location or occasion.
It's a grocery store, not a wedding.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're confusing "looking decent" with "formal wear". No, you don't need to dress up like you would for a wedding to go grocery shopping. But that doesn't mean you should go grocery shopping in lounge wear. Put on a proper pair of pants and shoes. Brush your hair and teeth. If it looks like you just woke up, rolled out of bed, and came in to the store, that's lazy, it looks lazy, and doesn't look like you care. It's immature.
saracuda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:18:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I think you're confusing "trash bag" with "lounge wear".
You're into public for 20 minutes tops. It's OK to be lazy and grab what you need real quick. It's not immature.
Going to the grocery store in lounge wear is perfectly acceptable as long as you aren't dirty, smelly, and all your appropriate bits are convered. You're simply judgemental, which is actually hilariously immature.
hugehunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd argue not having the confidence in yourself to not look your 100% best in public, and worrying what others think about you, is the true sign of immaturity
saracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really think it's completely 100% associated with immaturity, but it's definitely associated with vanity and insecurity - especially projecting it onto others. I guess those qualities are associated with immaturity, now that I think of it.
SoyPopo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if you're not trying to impress then does it really matter?
GringodelRio ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:11:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Your dress conveys information. You should at least look decent, even if you're not trying to impress people. Otherwise, if you look like a slob, you'll be treated like a slob.
SoyPopo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well maybe I just happen to be lucky with where I live because I can't comfortably wear anything that isn't multiple sizes bigger than necessary and the same goes for a number of people I know. Seems more like dress impacts interactions that you don't make where you don't make an impression based on personality. Unless i'm going for some big company job or whatever.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your dress is your first impression. It's your first statement to someone. You may be able to win them over later with personality, but why not win them over right away?
And let me be clear here, I'm not talking about always wearing a suit. Just dressing with purpose. Making sure your socks match your pants, your belt and shoes match, wearing a hat if applicable. Showing a little class and style. Instead of just whatever you picked up off your floor that didn't smell.
Jeans and a button down take 10 seconds more than jeans and a tshirt, and present yourself a lot better than the former. Little effort, big result.
ALittleFrittata ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares?
GringodelRio ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should always care about what you convey to others. It shows the difference between maturity and immaturity. Self-respect and self-esteem versus none.
ALittleFrittata ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:55:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fortunately, I have enough self-esteem to know that looking good isn't always the goal. Fortunately, I'm mature enough to have the confidence in knowing that buying tortillas in yoga pants isn't going to ruin my marriage. And fortunately, I'm extremely happy to not give a shit about what I convey to others while I'm in a convenience store, just based on my looks. :)
caffelover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amen
andersmb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, but as someone who flies a lot, there's few things worse than being uncomfortable in a cramped seat on a long flight. I'm not saying you should be a slob in your PJs, but being that dickhead that's holding up the security line because you have to undo half your outfit before you go through the scanner is not a good look either.
RichieBooth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're joking right? Shops maybe but an airport? I'm about to sit in the same tiny seat for 14 hours and you want me to wear my least comfy pair of trousers so that some randoms in the airport will think I look nice? Fuck that, I'm wearing tracksuit trousers
ViviWannabe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, seconded. The only time I leave the house in PJs is if I am sick and need food and/or medicine. I put real pants on to check the mail.
razzdazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
jayriemenschneider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only time I dress lazy in public is when I'm flying. I'm all about comfort when I'm flying. Once I get to my destination, I'll change into something nice, but until then, I'll be wearing slippers and lazy pants. (It also makes the security line a lot quicker)
CaptaiinCrunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly this is mostly a rural thing. I've lived in small towns and large cities and people always dress better in urban environments for the most part. Yes cities tend to have more rich people but the dress code seems to trickle down to middle class people as well. Small towns only about 20% of the population seem to give a shit about how they dress.
violetxrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We have the opposite problem in Hollywood. Everyone looks like they're dressed to accept their Oscar when they're just picking up some yogurt and toilet paper. Now I have to pick out a nice outfit and apply full make-up just to walk to the corner store in order to not look homeless. I want to be comfortable damn it!
greyspatter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm gonna wear pajamas when I fly.
Wanderlustfull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the ignorant (me ), what is a sport coat? It doesn't sound like something considered smart, rather than the contrary.
saracuda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a nice coat, not like a sweatshirt or letterman jacket
Wanderlustfull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. However, I see no demonstrable difference between a sport coat and a blazer / jacket whatsoever. :\
saracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I... don't either =\ I think it's the cut and fabric, but they look the same to me. I'm ignorant on men's fashion.
Halcyon412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Some of us still remember when flying was an occasion..." -G. Quagmire
smokemonmast3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grocery stores, airports, and gas stations are the best places to wear jammies.
Especially airports, if I wore a suit or something else fancy on a plane I wouldn't be able to sleep, and then I would get angry about it. Jammies keep me chill.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a quote somewhere on reddit "Dress like your dream partner might see you" or something close to that.
be_bo_i_am_robot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm with you.
I'm not anal or judgy, and I certainly don't want to go back to the (probably mythical) days when people wore nice coats and hats just to go to the store... and I'm all for casual (I love t-shirts, jeans, and tennis shoes myself), but DAMN!!! I do wish people would put a little thought and care into their appearance before going out in public. Just a minimal basic amount, like hide your butt-crack at least!
ApacheFYC ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:01:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody cares what you think though that's the thing. I think you're over thinking it, but you go ahead and do your hair and makeup/shave and dress to buy a soda buddy!
Eder_Cheddar ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
College is the worse for this.
I don't care who you are, when I see a girl in sweatpants even if she is trying to pull the whole 'sexy-lazy' look I just look the other way.
If i had a crush walk by me in sweatpants I'd look the other way.
Edit Sorry sweatpant-wearing college girls.
FuckClinch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Opposite for me
daammmnnnn girl you look comfy.
Watching the fucks everyone has to give about their appearance rapidly approach zero going from years 1-4 has been fun too
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, I'm not so crazy about what someone dresses up in as long as it's not ugly as shit, and so long as it's obvious they take care of themselves. If you look like you just don't give a shit all the time then yes, I won't really like being around you. But I'm not going to stop liking someone just because they dress comfortably sometimes, that's a little much to me.
Of course we all have different opinions though, standard Reddit disclaimer.
karikosera ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 18:48:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men: have you ever thought about the state of your eyebrows? No? They might be fine, but ask a woman you trust if there's room for improvement. A well groomed set of brows can work wonders on almost every face. (Same goes for ladies, but most women I know already give too many shits about too many things, myself included)
zedoktar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:59:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figure as long as I pick off the representatives each side tries to send across the divide before they can unite the kingdoms into the United Brow Empire I look fine.
karikosera ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha! That's a delightful analogy :)
Man_Breath ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:09:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is good advice. I got a pair of clippers to cut my hair a while back and they came with an eyebrow trimming attachment that I didn't use at first. When I finally gave it a shot my whole face looked different.
ItsSoNuge ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:58:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of guys, when they get this advice, they shrug it off because they think their eyebrows are fine, or that no girl wants a guy with womanly eyebrows.
It's not that guybrows should be thin, it's that your eyebrows look are like hockey-tape thick, motherfucker.
tinoasprilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if they're just crooked
ItsSoNuge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it that noticable to the point where it really detracts from your looks? Lol.
WorkUpvoter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, tinoasprilla always looks inquisitive.
walliver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you even have eyebrows?
karikosera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ding ding ding! Also, not sure how I've never used "guybrows", but thank you :)
PinkMama2015 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But most of the time a man w groomed eyebrows is taken, like my husband.
Kind of a marker so to speak
arostganomo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most cases are a simple 'pluck those few offenders that give you a monobrow' anyways. All you need to fix those is a pair of tweezers and ten seconds out of your day.
karikosera ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! And bonus tip: it's less painful/a bit easier straight out of the shower.
cjog210 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you can just shave them off. Much easier.
arostganomo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but then you have to do that every day or you'll get a weird stubble. And it's hard to be so precise with a razor.
ProspectiveQuant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the time, but fortunately the one great thing I was born with are naturally perfect eyebrows it seems. Women ask me about them often hah
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm lucky all i gotta do is get rid of a few hairs at the unibrow areas, but a few women ask me if i do my eyebrows because they look really good. nope, guess i got lucky.
mytwin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i always get complimented about my eyebrows because hopefully they take away from my homely face
emopest ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:46:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of these tips would be much easier if I wasn't depressed :(
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 20:32:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, most things are easier when you're not depressed.
emopest ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:35:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very, very true
humansandwich ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:59:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, like everything else in this thread, a good place to start is taking care of yourself. Try and talk to a professional about it. It's scary and embarrassing, I know, but you will feel better in time.
emopest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do that, but I didn't like my therapist, and it ended in me lying enough to be declared cured. I tried taking it up again, but I couldn't find someone I was comfortable with, but I haven't given up hope yet!
LordessMeep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:29:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay, keep on going! Hope you find someone compatible soon. :)
Somebody downthread suggested excercise and you mentioned you're doing it. Please stick with it. As someone with a father suffering from the more depressive side of BPD, it's done wonders for him. It helps that he used to love sports when he was younger so jogging is tons of fun for him.
The bad part is that he usually drags me along and I loathe excercise. :P But, hey, if it puts him in a better mood..
Sorry I can't give you better advice... I prone to feeling low now and again but I usually cheer myself up by going out somewhere. And that's not depression in the least, so.
Anyway, take care of yourself!
motherfuckingasshole ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:46:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drinking water seems like a good one to start with though :)
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:51:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Arandanos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be careful about categorically saying no to pills. Ask questions before you take them, sure. But let's avoid giving blind medical advice.
emopest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a nice tip, I might try that, but in some other version than specifically vocal.
Also, thank you! I appreciate it<3
jvalordv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey buddy, as others have said, a little bit can go a long way. As someone who isn't a particularly happy person in general, some things have put me in a really bad place lately. I've found though that in my troughs, focusing on minor bits of self care and being even a little active can go a long way. It's easy to fall into the trap of letting hygiene slip and avoiding going out whenever possible, but it's the little accomplishments that'll add up and if nothing else, you can feel better about yourself for those. Cleaning up your room or doing some exercise may suck, but no one regrets it after, and it's at least a small reason to feel good.
emopest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to do this! Every time I have that little extra bit of energy, I try to use it; cleaning, making proper food and so on. I always try to take a little bit of pride in these "productive days". I've recently started pushing myself to have those days. Deciding to do a certain thing on a certain day and mentally prepare for it for several days. It works, most of the time
CoolMachine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rest, shower, laundry and decent food, if you can. Hang in there!
yungkef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Twisting the topic: small things to begin loving yourself more.
Exercise. Seriously. Pushing yourself physically is always such a good way to battle depression.
emopest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I've been trying to do, and it's actually a nice way to redirect your thoughts to something else!
Also, that would be a nice thread for /r/askreddit, really
TheMommaBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doing some of these things may help you to be less depressed.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:52:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do something about it, no excuses.
yolo123swag ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 20:54:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pouting isn't gonna fix anything either
visiblysane ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:20:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start a Nazi party and start to give some talks in bars. Suddenly whole country is killing for you because you are so attractive.
P.S The trick is to go after minority.
Mr_Munchausen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:52:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a guy, carry around a roll of quarters in your front pocket.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if they ignore you, you hit them with it? A legal cash-cosh if you will?
moogod ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:26:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cover yourself in chocolate
killjoyrabb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm am chocolate person...
TubasAreFun ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:13:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a tent
StableCaptain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
meta
surpriseslingshot ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:12:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna be a late-to-the-party, asshole of a female but dear men. A guy who bites the bullet and dresses nice every day (not just sometimes) is going to grab my eye, no matter what kind of butterface you're rocking. I'm not talking slacks and a bowtie every day. All I'm asking is for boxers that don't make you look like you have a fupa (plus your junk looks huge in briefs), well-cut jeans that have a maximum of four pockets and none below the upper thigh, a t-shirt that isn't advertising a company you've never bought from (graphic t's are cute and it makes you look like you have an opinion on... something...), and just... brush your hair. Invest in a pair of not-sneakers.
Ladies, you can love your body at any size, but if you acknowledge your own size instead of pretending you have the body of someone else, you can make other people love your body just the same. There are women out there who rock big & tall. Figure out what looks good on you. Ignore what trends are happening. Don't go down a size so you can pretend you're not that big. It doesn't matter what number is on the inside of that tiny label underneath your clothes. What matters is how damn good you look in them. So if you've got a long torso with short legs, here's a hint from me. You're never gonna look good in high-rise jeans. Dresses that go to just under the knee make you look like a bunch of gnomes standing on each others shoulders. Take the extra time to email customer support to ask if that dress you want from that website is longer than 33" because you and I both know that we own too many "tunics".
Tl;Dr: Men, invest in some briefs and stop wearing sneakers. Women, stop kidding yourselves.
FerragamoHussein ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:24:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so attracted to you right now. Another thing to way of looking more attractive: KNOW WHAT YOU WANT/LIKE
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's a fupa and how do you know what pants I'm wearing? Where are you meeting people?!
surpriseslingshot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Fat upper pelvic area"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhh. Can agree with that!
01022012 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:07:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Become a Tent.
Link for relevance - http://i.imgur.com/jTYJfSG.jpg
thrown-away_account ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:41:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat everyone you interact with better than they deserve.
aznanimality ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did this with my GF, got stepped on and unappreciated for too long.
Ended up having a one-sided relationship where she didn't give two shits about me.
RatWrench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, then we have an issue, as the alternative is to treat people exactly as they deserve and if I do that I'll probably go to jail.
CoolMachine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.
PoopChute_Pate ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:09:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teeth. Take good care of them. I remember I laughed when I was young and people would use "nice teeth" as one of the qualities they found attractive in someone, but I started to realize how important it was when I paid attention to it. There are some people who are unbelievably attractive, and it all goes to shit when they smile.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm British I can skip this one.
lineycakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 27 and people still think I'm weird for looking for "nice teeth."
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:29:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I could trim my beard, remember to shower more, make more money, lift, run more, drink less, play fewer video games, hike more, sail again, play more music, listen to the right kind of music, be more conversational, get a degree, drive a less shitty car, move out of my parents' house, smile more, think about the words I say before I say them, brush my teeth twice a day, be more interested in reality, treat people better, be funnier, be less weird, be up to date on something people care about, have any interest that is actually interesting, really, etc.
There's a million little things I could do but, at the end of the day, meh.
CloudSA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:04:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and clean your fingernails
cptstyles ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:06:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suggest getting people to laugh, tell some jokes and be easy going. I'm not going to drop the famous " looks aren't everything" line because being well dressed and groomed does play it's part. In the end be yourself! :)
Flaggermusmannen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buuuuut, what if I'm terribly unfunny and try way too hard?
cptstyles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhm.. well being unfunny is a thing. Try to seem interested in what others find funny and like to do. Trying way to hard isn't good, just relax and be you. If people don't like you for you than screw them.
Fleurdetots ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:20:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being well rested is probably the #1 thing that works for me. It's like the difference between this and this.
OurSuiGeneris ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:08:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breathe through your nose when not speaking.
Wear simpler clothing (solid colors, more subtle colors)
Never repeat yourself because you think they didn't hear you, they might have just not wanted to acknowledge it. (unless what you're saying is important, e.g., "your turn is coming up")
Keep your hair clean
Stand up straight
Either say what you want to say like you want everyone around to be able to hear it, or don't say it. i.e., don't mumble, if you're not confident enough to say it, don't.
Don't interrupt someone to tell them some trivia you know about what they're saying. Also don't interrupt people.
Don't fidget. Even if you're uncomfortable, pretend you're comfortable.
gangsta_baby ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:18:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make a shit ton of money.
rayrayrayray ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:28:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From my wise mother: Take care of your skin, your smile, and your shoes.
After dealing with acne in my teens, im now obsessed with having a clear complexion as its done wonders for my confidence.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you get rid of your acne? I've had mine since I was 8 (19 now) and would love to beat it once and for all.
rayrayrayray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:56 on January 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did three things. I must tell you, I feel acne robbed me of my youth and I had pretty bad acne all the way into my mid 20's. I would also get huge cyst like pimples on my chin, around nose area or cheek every couple of weeks on top of my regular acne. I really cut down on eating cheese and cut mayonnaise completely from my diet. I found those foods would make me break out. I think it was the oils in them. I would suggest drinking more water as well.
I made sure to use a good skin care regimen daily. Cleanse, tone, moisturize. Dont overdo it, or you will dry out your skin.
I got a prescription for minocycline. I take one pill daily still to this day. My skin has gotten compliments now, considering I turned 40 and i had lots of scaring from acne, I almost cried tears of joy when someone said i had beautiful skin. Lately I have been using coconut oil as a moisturizer and then I will wash off and apply a light moisturizer when I leave home. Maybe these will work for you. I hope they do. It changed my life. If i can save you even a day from a having a bad breakout, I will be happy. Best wishes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:26 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks so much. I'll try this stuff- I've been afraid to try moisturizers, especially oil-based ones, because I thought they might make me break out more.
rayrayrayray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:03 on January 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I thought the same thing. But I found out that Coconut oil was antibacterial. Lots of people say food doesn't trigger breakouts, but as soon as I cut out melted cheese and mayo from my diet, things became better really quick. I must say that the minocycline was perfect for me. It changed my life. I only wish I tried it earlier. I was emotionally destroyed in college from my acne.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:57 on January 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Minocycline is an antibiotic, isn't it? Have you had any negative effects from being on antibiotics for so long?
rayrayrayray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:41 on January 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been off and on it for the last 6 years. It's been an effective backup. I am blemish free since starting with minocycline at 34. Absolutely no zits at all. No side effects i can think of. I was told i should supplement with some probiotics but havent done that yet. good luck.
FPNarrator ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:04:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ask people open-ended questions about themselves. What are your dreams? How do you spend your weekends? Where would you love to travel? How did you get into your career? Etc. (Actually listening and asking follow up questions is a plus.)
I once had a date that I thought it went really well, and it made me rate the average-ish girl very favourably -- until I realized I didn't know anything about her. She just kept asking me questions and letting me talk about myself. lol
kccogirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To add, ask GOOD questions. I hate the "describe your personality in 5 words" type questions. Those won't help you get to know me at all.
LordessMeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do people really ask that outside of interview settings? Because I'd get incredibly weirded out if someone asked me that in a regular conversation.
kccogirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine is trying to set me up with a guy she knows. We've been texting a bit back and forth and most of his questions are like that.
He seems like a really nice guy but we really don't know shit about each other
TheGodDemon ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:42:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dont pick ur nose and wash yourself every morning.
ZombieDO ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 18:00:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How often should I be picking my nose and washing myself?
darkslide3000 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 18:38:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The important part is to not pick your nose and wash yourself in the morning. Do either one or the other, not both. In my experience, a pick, pick, pick, wash rotation over four days works best.
SpaceCowboy170 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:54:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the truly important take-away here is that potential mates will be looking for those with more boogers. Therefore, wash yourself every morning, but keep that schnoz au natural
WingZeroType ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Annnd now the guy in the stall next to me must be wondering why the guy in the stall next to him has burst out giggling
mytwin_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just dont do it in the morning
bannana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean 'don't pick your nose in public' we all pick our noses and scratch our asses but these are things we should do in private.
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360CrescentKick ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:58:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But seriously, wear clothes that fit, do something with your hair, exude confidence.
DiarrheaMarinade ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:22:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or try everything with a detached air of superiority(roll your eyes and "pfft..."constantly), that'll mean you're too important to give a shit about what you're doing, let along doing it correctly.
Sethasaurus_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:53:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also remember to park your muscle car in the handicapped parking spot at all times.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a pussy. Double park in handicapped spots
poopellar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:59:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even have to wear nice clothes, just ones that are clean, ironed out, put on neatly and that fit well. That and how you carry yourself can go a long way.
aBigScaryDino ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:13:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only use words of passion when you are actually passionate about something.
Throwing words like love, hate, loath, phenomenal, etc., when you dont actually feel that way about something makes it look like you don't mean what you say or say what you mean.
Also, show yourself some love. Im not the most confident person, but i notice i get more positive feedback from people on days where I've given myself attention, done things to make me happy, and given myself compliments. Don't take it as conceit, but just an acknowledgment of your self worth.
weasel-like ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:37:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make a ton of money
Vegesus44 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:09:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Enunciate.
mrbil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Score hidden. Up-vote pointless.
Vegesus44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can still see it lol, thanks
mrbil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:52 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. +1
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still working on this... :(
echo_astral ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:33:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make eye contact when talking with people.
SleepNowMyThrowaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when on the phone.
rimnii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
surprised how low this is. It was my first thought. Not a lot of kids make eye contact and recently I started doing my share. Now I've realized how many people don't make eye contact and how much I judge them. It's super important, except for occasionally when you're broing out
OPs_Mom_and_Dad ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:14:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. A simple trick someone told me, train your brain to equate smiling with doors. Every time you walk through a door, take it as a cue to smile. Walking into the office? Smile. Walking into a bar? Smile. And not a quick smile, smile the whole time. It doesn't have to be a big cheesy smile - just pull the cheeks back a bit. Don't worry about showing teeth. You just want to appear happy. It's amazing how much this changes how everyone else interacts with you.
kccogirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to try this. I have severe bitchy resting face. To the point that people are constantly commenting on it (which ends up just pissing me off)
I'm a soda merch. I walk through a lot of doors throughout my day. I think it could make a good habit to break me of my angry face
OPs_Mom_and_Dad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:15:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck with the change! Let us know how it goes!
NoviceoftheWorld ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:06:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you wear makeup:
Lips, eyebrows, blush. It takes 5 minutes and frames the face.
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:51:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you finding these women that take 5 minutes to do their makeup?
NoviceoftheWorld ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:05:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I'm describing should only take that long. Obviously if you do more, it'd take a longer time.
pamplemouss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:15:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do eyebrows/eyelashes/highlight.
AptCasaNova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep - I do eyebrows, eyelashes and blush. It takes very little time and make a huge difference.
LordessMeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just stick with lips and eyeliner. Most days, it's just eyeliner.
I'm a lazy person.
waldiwiththesauce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i like minimal makeup. when im making out with a caked up girl - her make up gets everywhere (face, clothes, etc) and then i start looking like a pretty motha fucka with powdered lips and i just aint bout that life!
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:16:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you see someone - anyone - pretend that this person is destined to become the best friend you'll have in this lifetime, and that you've been given the gift to go back in time and live that first meeting all over again. Everything will change in you: your posture changes, your face lights up, your energy changes, you become warm and calm and open. And people respond to you in the most remarkable ways. I have a lifetime of strangers telling me their deepest dreams within 15 minutes of meeting them. And have been asked out on more dates than I could ever count.
This is a rare gift, of course -- people letting you into their deepest selves -- so there is a responsibility here, as well. Be sure to keep dignity, humility and respect close at hand.
budlejari ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:06:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf. No. That's creepy, not good.
sudofox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any creepiness was quickly dispelled by his last sentence there. I think he wrote that well.
budlejari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I don't. Being genuine is one thing. Pretending that a person is destined to become your best friend and acting accordingly would, in my opinion, come across as creepy and weird - too much, too soon kind of thing. To say that it makes people tell you their deepest dreams in 15 minutes is bizarre. It negates social distance and expectations. Maybe it's a not British thing but I definitely feel it's creepy, and the last line doesn't alleviate the odd factor.
mishamolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:06 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you need some work on interpersonal skills. This works-- I do it.
budlejari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:28 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the nice slam on my social skills. Much appreciated. Not.
As a woman, this doesn't come across to me as nice, warm, or genuine. It comes across as disingenuous, creepy, too much too soon kind of effect. It would set up alarm bells ringing because this is the same tactic used by car sales men and over aggressive men who don't want to take no for an answer. Charm and harm.
Of course context matters. If you pulled this in a nice restaurant or in a club, maybe it wouldn't seem so bad. If you pulled it on a train or on the street? Insta-klaxon time. Just because it has personally worked for you in the times you have done it, doesn't mean other people can't find it creepy or overly personal.
mishamolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:52 on January 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, you missed a few things. I come off as nice, warm and genuine all the time. And no, I don't strike up conversation with random people on public transportation. Who does that? Regardless of who you are, those situations are the ones with the highest chance of getting shut down.
This advice isn't to get into a woman's pants. It's to build rapport with people. It's a good mentality to instill, but as with everything needs to be tinkered with to fit your personality and tailored to each audience.
Yes, sometimes you veer in the wrong direction and can give off this impression. It could be you just didn't connect, or the person your speaking with is not in the mood to be swayed. Regardless, all you have to do is smile and say something to the effect: "Did you know I am in a really good mood today?"
People eat that shit up. They want to be happy for you and they will share your positivity.
sand_eater ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:33:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat lots of magnets
DiarrheaMarinade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I misread that, I've eaten a shitload of maggots already.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:42:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be the guy that gossips with the girl he has a crush on. Quick way to get locked into the friend zone.
yourbrotherrex ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:31:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't gossip in general, about anything.
It's a very unattractive trait in any person.
NikoTesla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:31:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys really overestimate the friend zone. At least for me (girl), it's hard to end up in (or I should say, STAY in) my friend zone.
DeathWithDishonor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:39:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're also probably only imagining all the guys you were attracted to that didn't make a move because they thought they were friendzoned.
Now consider all the guys who you weren't attracted to that expressed interest in you.
Still overestimation? Probably not.
AdmiralSnackbar_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:05:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not being so whiny. It's a huge turn off to anybody with a brain and a lot of people do it. Plus, not bitching about everything may help give you a better outlook on life in general.
relatablerobot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:53:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buried, but still worth saying. Don't be self deprecating. I know this is along the lines of not being negative, but it's so important it deserves its own mention. Once in a while being self deprecating in a joking way is fine, but doing it in front of people in a serious way is never attractive. I knew a girl in school who once said to me in a very sincere way "I know I'm ugly". The truth is she's not great looking, probably less than average. However by saying it out loud and with terribly insecure body language she made herself so much less attractive. Now, self awareness is good, and in some ways can be attractive. But when you say things about yourself that clearly project a sense of insecurity in your "shortcomings", it just comes off so badly. Be aware of your faults, but don't focus on them with other people unless those people are there to help you improve yourself.
heavydishongry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read an article about this, years ago. The point of the article was that where someone might once have been able to glance over a flaw, they quickly became unable to focus on anything BUT the flaw when the insecure person pointed it out.
MadMardiganWaaait ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:43:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower. Brush your teeth. Eat less. Comb your hair. Work out a little. This isn't rocket appliances
mytwin_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:56:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
who is gene and why are so many people in this thread greeting him
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:58:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eye contact, and good breath
Roastage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take the time to learn about Cologne/Perfume and find a good quality fragrance that suits your age and the setting.
People seriously underestimate the overall effect of smelling nice to the opposite sex. If you smell fantastic you are instantly more pleasant to be around. The sense of smell is connected with the Limbic System which is also associated with memory, mood and emotion.
hairybrains ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:24:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know that sweater you love, but it looks like a sack of potatoes on you? Find a tailor that does alterations in your town, and bring them the sweater. Have them tailor it to your body. Once you see how inexpensive it is to do this kind of thing, you'll start doing it all the time. And you'll start to look fantastic.
Chaldean710 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
really ? tailors can alter bigger looking sweaters on you ? Got to try it, thanks for the tip.
Usually only brought then long jeans, jackets with longer sleeves and so on.
hairybrains ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:29 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will depend on the weave of the sweater. If the sweater is woven together all as one piece, probably not. But if the sweater is of a tight knit with sewn seams? Definitely. I'm wearing one right now! When I turn it inside out, I can see where the tailor did their work. And it was super simple, too. They just had me stand there with the sweater on, and used a piece of chalk to mark where I wanted it to come in, and the general shape I wanted. I picked it up a day later.
SirFartsalot- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:32:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight. Hold your head high. It makes an enormous difference. You'll feel more confident as well.
guest123420 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:35:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I've been pleasantly surprised with the advice in this thread. For the most party people are giving solid advice that will not only make you feel and look more attractive, but also will improve your health and general well being.
Rattlehorse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:36:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be funny, its hard to not like someone if they make you laugh.
Chucklay ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:38:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perfect! My whole life is a joke!
Barvoucher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:06:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be ugly.
fafa_flunky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:12:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look like you give a shit, act like you don't.
alexandercain ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:54:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fix your posture. Smile at everyone. Dress as well as you can. Stop swearing. Stop biting your nails. Quit smoking.
StarBirb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:24:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile - this to me is the biggest thing. If you walk around glaring or looking bored, you upset or intimidate people. I'm bad at this - RBF big time :( And I see it in other people, too. A smile right away or in response to someone walking by makes all the difference; like, yes, you may not have the best nose, or great makeup, or stylish clothes, but you're a happy person who's fun to be around. You're friendly.
LeFriendzonedNiceguy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:24:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't wear a fedora
tehsophz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username doesn't check out.
6inchpianist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:34:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All you have to do is have a decent job and wait until the women that previously rejected you all find themselves to be single moms.
SlimPikinZ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:07:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash regularly with soap and lose the neck beard.
XxThumbsMcGeexX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:48:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Become a furry. Nobody can see how ugly you are when you're actually a dragon.
Bravissimo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:26:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For men: Very easy.
-Old worn shoes have their place, I love my old boots, but clean maintained shoes, like a casual Adidas or Nike make a good impression.
-Clean back neck. Trim that hair! Most barbers will do it for you for free in between cuts!
-A little starch when you iron your shirt makes a big difference.
-Stand up straight. This takes a lot of practice and habit...but you don't have to change over night...a little adjustment everyday makes a difference.
-Smile more
-maintain more eye contact
-The best thing that trumps all of this...believe you are attractive. Fuck it lie to yourself, tell yourself you are attractive...because if you believe the opposite, that you're not attractive, well that's a lie too...but the former is going to benefit you and the people in you're life more.
RobotVampire ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:31:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do everything in your power to look like a tent.
memorasus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:56:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be born attractive. It really helps.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:31:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a man its taller and make more money.
Source: Tinder
cookie_steez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:48:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awww... Did that website tell you you were ugly? :(
PseudoY ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:50:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. It told me I was OK! (Other commenters say I should be HAPPY and CONFIDENT regardless of the real world :-))
VivesCarlos ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:14:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try to be high every chance you get
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Done
SharkEel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:24 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah, I am 5X more confident when high. I just live in the moment and feel happy whereas when im sober I feel all depressed and bored with everything
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:15:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh no
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:05:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone says confidence is attractive, and coke makes you really confident...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:01:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just convince yourself that being attractive won't make you happier, in the same way the 99% convince themselves that money can't buy happiness. That way you just have to sit back and relax.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:27:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These obvious steps- in HS I was the ultimate pud but as an adult I feel I've come into my own.
Develop hobbies that interest you and pursue them. I recommend creative (art,) academic (astronomy, language, etc), physical (hiking, sports, skiing, etc,) and/or a trade (mechanic, woodworking, etc.) Notice I left out video games and TV/Netflix!
Take a shower regularly but careful with your hair. I'm a guy and constantly shampooed my hair when I was younger. It would be huge and hard to handle. As an adult I wash my hair about every 3 weeks and when I do I put a little Bedhead wax stick in it to mellow it out.
Be relatively fit. We all have different body types but that's no excuse to not get out and be active. It will literally make you breath quieter and speak easier. I know- I've been there.
And a big one- be a good listener is very important be but make sure to be an active listener. Ask questions that dig into the details of folks stories and opinions. It's the most flattering thing for us humans to be shown interest in what we're saying.
This is an incomplete list but I think these things will go a long way.
It-Wanted-A-Username ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:35:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, if you do this you probably won't need to use any hair products. Also, the natural oils are good for your hair and scalp.
Padfoot141 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:13:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every 3 weeks?! I have to wash mine every day or it gets greasy. I've heard that it stops getting greasy if you stop washing every day, but I can't get out of this habit because it's greasy the next day.
slugposse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try dry shampoo to hold you over on no-wash days. Absorbs excess oil from hair without striping your scalp and triggering oil production.
DrSuviel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:29:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Things I've [26/M] done to make myself more attractive:
Dress better/more interestingly (can be done with thrift-store finds)
Grow facial hair and learn how to groom it properly (find a good-smelling beard oil)
Get chiropractic care and otherwise improve posture (I have a spine condition so this makes a lot of difference)
Pursue higher education (PhD student)
Learn to cook/bake a few things that are kind of interesting or at least fun (if you're a terrible cook, get a good rotary waffle maker; chocolate-chip waffles with whipped cream and strawberries for dinner was received well)
Take time to volunteer (I go to the local animal shelter)
Own a house (my house is also an investment property)
Have cute pets (I think dogs work a little better than cats but I have one of each)
Cultivate other hobbies/skills that might come in handy or would at least come across as impressive
911isaconspiracy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:44:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No matter how good you look, personality trumps it.
Have a fun personality, know how to talk to people.
Remember how you talk to specific people because you can't one day be all happy and funny to a specific interest and then the next act all awkward and shy. You're inconsistent and it confuses them most likely.
Try and have your own car. It's okay that you live with your parents...for now. But for the love of God at least have your own car if you want to be seen as an adult or at least independent.
I only say all of this because I'm living all these mistakes right now.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How you look is an extension of your personality. If you dress confidently and groom confidently, you look confident, and therefore you will feel more confident.
And have a car or at least access to one (e.g. if you don't own one because you live in a city with decent transit and don't need one most of the time, a zip car or a credit card you use for a rental is a good option). When I lived in the inner city area and owning a car wasn't an option, I always maintained a relationship with a local rental car counter. Needed a car for a hot date, it was nothing to call up and get a modest car.
ViviWannabe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:06:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a woman, tilt your head forward slightly. If you're a man, tilt it back slightly. Tilting your head forward makes you look more feminine, and back makes you look more masculine.
15700325 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tilting my head forward feels strange, I've always tended to tilt it up/back more often than not.
harryhartounian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
Boom. 500% more likeable.
TheMexicanPenguinII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So like, level 2 likeable
Eder_Cheddar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I began losing my beautiful head of hair at the ripe age of 21 and suffer from receding hairlines.
When I go out (away from the office) I wear hats and caps. I look better in pictures and I feel better that no one is staring at an aging scalp.
drbluetongue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave it all off dude and grow a goatee
Eder_Cheddar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've done this before. Unfortunately because of my build I look intimidating.
I feel I'm gonna be 40 years old still trying to look cool.
As long as I make sure to avoid the comb-over I'll be ok. :P
drbluetongue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rock that and smile loads. instant chickmagnet lol.
comb overs fool nobody good call
igame2much ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight
Bignified ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:26:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clap off the lights.
IPutAWigOnYou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be generous with other people:
Be interested in people and ask questions to get to know them, be generous with your laughter, don't just try to be the only funny one telling all the jokes. Invite people to enjoy food & experiences with you, compliment people genuinely & show appreciation for them. Making people feel welcome and valued is an attractive quality.
TheVentiLebowski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:13:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've sent that TED Talk about posture to a colleague. He sits with his head in front on his body and looks down when he walks. It not only helps you look more confident, it makes you feel more confident. It's a feedback loop.
Your head is your crown. It belongs on top of your body.
alex3omg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy better shampoo and conditioner. If you buy two in one 2$ shit and you think your hair is greasy and boring well guess why? Go spend $50 on some real salon stuff and use it correctly. Leave the conditioner in for a few minutes while you remove unwanted body hair or wash your butt or whatever. Then after your hair is dried, brush it for a minute with a real bristle comb to get your grease distributed and break up lumps.
People with bad skin and hair can usually do something about it. Moisturising is a big step. They think they're too greasy but the oil comes from being too dry. Moisturise your skin and hair to combat grease. Wash your face with cleanser and toner first, for added benefit.
And do your eyebrows, clean up your nails and cuticles (watch a video on how to do a manicure.)
Really it's like an extra 10 minutes a day and you'll look so much better. Also floss, wear deodorant, put on lip balm if they're dry, etc. Maybe go to a nicer place for a haircut sometime and see if you look better.
Looking good is time/money as much as natural beauty. People who think they are ugly are probably just frumpy.
Chesterlespaul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From someone who used to be clueless here's some easy tips:
-workout: it really does make a difference. Lose some weight and eating healthy will make you feel better and be more confident
-get a GOOD haircut. Look up photos of actors or models and bring it in. You might feel lost at first but you'll get used to what makes a haircut GOOD and what hair you like.
-dress well. /r/malefashionadvice is good, especially for beginners. At first you'll think it's a place that will tell you what to wear, but after a while you can get your own eye for fashion and know what you specifically like and then you can break the rules there. It's kinda like training wheels and is still an awesome sub to visit and post to because they still have great items they talk about.
-be confident. This one is the hardest, but honestly just remember that everyone is in the end just a person like you and like you they just want to make friends and have relationships through life. Some people you will not have that magical "click" with, and that is okay. Others you will and it will be amazing. If someone is ever rude to you for politely showing interest in them, don't let it hold you back! That really is their problem and you are in the right. That person is just being rude (keyword, POLITELY showing interest).
HydeMD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut your finger nails!
zirtbow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have lots of money.
pyneapplepyro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be comfortable alone in public. It gives you a sense of confidence that prevades everything else too.You will be more relaxed and sure of yourself.
sidepart ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a dick.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:28:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep 8 hours a night. You will look better and think clearer.
Jellooooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a chance this will happen. How does 5-6 hours sound?
FormalChicken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men wearing ties, learn where a tie bar goes. For fuck sake I always see them near belly buttons and it looks idiotic.
Between the 3rd and 4th buttons from the top button (basically near the base of the sternum), and a width equal to or less than, but not less than 2/3 of the width of the tie.
Makes a world of difference.
89kbye ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't sit at home all the time. Even if you're broke.
There are a shit ton of things to do for free even when its cold out! Go somewhere, do something.
Life is short. Fucking live.
ponderizing_daily ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that beards are the great equalizer. If you are handsome a beard hides your handsomeness and you become less so, but this can be helpful if you are ugly.
JamesTiberiusChirp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be a dick
That_Will_Kid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haircut- Go to barbers, look at some photos of styles you like. Take one to barber. Clothes- Buy some nice ones every now and again. Take a friend that you think dresses well, or knows what looks good on you. (I had a female friend that forced me to buy some clothes I now love) Better Posture. Walk tall. It'll make you look more assertive, and will improve your figure. Be confident- The best thing I ever did, when I 'learned' to talk to girls was to Not aim to flirt. If you're interested and they are too, it'll happen. Just treat them like a friend when you first meet and you're away.
That all helped me out.
ReALJazzyUtes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:04:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygiene. Especially brushing and flossing daily. Having pearly whites won't always get you the girl, but having rotten teeth will definitely not get you the girl.
GeoGoddess ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're not flossing, you do have bad breath. Pew.
Bonerkiin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a guy, I see so many dudes that could be good looking or at least somewhat attractive if they just had the right haircut. So many guys just do nothing with their hair, hair is a big thing that changes how your face looks to other people.
mustbeshitinme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean and laugh. Nobody likes a fucking whiner or a whining fucker.
flamingomike23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:16:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to sound like a douche but you can simply start working out if you can't afford a gym membership just do body resistance workouts at home
shinisou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep more! I'm burning the candle at both ends recently and find i'm showing it more
JH456 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100 PUSHUPS, 100 SITUPS, AND 100 SQUATS FOLLOWED BY A 10KM RUN. EVERY DAY!
kairon156 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to add eating the right foods and sleeping right to keep your energy up.
SaturnChild ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture = instantly lose 5lbs, look taller and more confident
Also (mostly, but not exclusively) for women: Lipstick or potentially proper lipstick. It makes all the difference.
AustinB93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basic grooming can go a long way, sort out your eyebrows, keep facial hair in check, groom your body.
In terms of clothes, doesn't matter what body shape you are or how little or more money you have, the main thing you should look for in clothes is fit. Make sure trousers and jeans aren't too baggy or tight, make sure you pick up the right leg length. Keep shirts tailored and for ties, go for a skinny tie as its short width will give the illusion that you are more slim. Similarly, make sure suits are tailored, it usually isnt too expensive and you will look put together easily.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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AustinB93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of guys would rather have stubble between their eyebrows using a razor than just plucking them, that and a quick tidy of stay hairs, thats all men need to do.
swordmagic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your damn teeth! Teeth are such a HUGE deal breaker and if you don't take care of them it tells a lot about who you are as a person I mean come one. At least twice a day, seriously just brush them!
Blues67 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pay for a decent haircut. If your mom cuts your hair, find a good barber. If you get your hair done at the mall, find a good salon. We spend so much time paying everyone else, yet forget to pay ourselves. Spend the money to look good.
Blood_in_the_ring ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not buy into artificial intelligence telling you that you are unattractive.
Stupid machines.
PseudoY ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you, it says I'm OK! That's good, right?!
DFXDreaming ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:59:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a man, invest time in grooming and style. Believe it or not, women actually like men that can take care of themselves.
xXVoicesXx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a lot of guys don't realize that looking harsh and raggy doesn't generally draw in women. Well moisturized faces, using a lip product regularly, decent hair, etc. can go a long way.
therealbahn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this question for that website from Zurich?
the_disco_pimp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:23:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
make lots of money
JackAndy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:28:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose some weight.
Christoph3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get at least one hour of vigorous physical exercise 3 times a week.
Be moderately wealthy.
Springpeen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:04:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lift weights and get your diet in check.
BoredAtWork-_- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:07:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make more money.
techguyMD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Extremely good personal hygiene. And wear age-appropriate trendy clothing.
Oh and for some reason a lot of guys look better with a beard than clean shaven. So try it out if you're a guy. Beards not recommended for women.
*edit typos
blackomegax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This will attract some hate but: Lose weight.
Seriously, even that little bit of fat around your jaw and chin isn't doing you any favors.
*hibernating bears disregard this.
JacobjamJacob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll bite on this one. Dudes, wear clothes that fit! Throw away any cargo shorts unless you're saving them for a hike or are active military. Also, the ones that go passed your knee caps. Throw those away too. Unless you're 12. Shave your neck . ( that seems to a joke here on Reddit but it's true.) Don't be afraid to wear brighter colors. Find some nice cologne . Don't bathe in it. Keep your goddamn fingernails clean. Wash your face. Use a little baking and soda peroxide and whiten up those teeth. Quit smoking. Drink tons of water. And most importantly . ...more important than all the other suggestions here combined. Don't be an asshole. That includes the internet.
orangeman126597 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:16:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always treat people as though you are genuinely happy to see them. If you act subtly thankful to be near others without being needy or weird, people will be attracted to you
Foo-ed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A girl once told me that all she looked for in a guy was someone who smelled nice and made her laugh. So good hygiene and a sense of humour can never go wrong!
GVapers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a better person.
cam2623 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SHAVE THE NECKBEARD!!!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyebrows. Make sure your eyebrows are always kept. Male or female, makes a HUGE Difference in overall neatness. Also basic hygiene, losing weight, staying hydrated, eating healthy. All make you more attractive. Being dehydrated makes your skin look bad, losing weight and eating healthy will help you reduce inflammation and fat in your face that will accentuate your jaw line and bone structure.
MGoAzul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wear clothes that fit. Not stuff that is too baggy or too tight
batcountry1984 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit correctly.
PM_ME_ALIEN_STUFF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Take smaller bites of food. You won't make as much mawing noise as you chew, and you won't look like a pig stuffing its face. Puffed up cheeks full of food and a jaw working to slosh it all around is pretty gross and tends to cause a lot of slurping and licking sounds even if your lips are closed.
Same with drinking. Take smaller pulls from a bottle so you don't make the hard glunking gulp sound.
might_be_myself ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put your phone away when you're having a conversation. It's such a turnoff.
short_storees ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that fingernails are often overlooked by individuals trying to improve their appearance, especially men. When I look at guys' hands who obviously chew their fingernails, I immediately judge.
boredom_surfer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tidy up your eye brows once in a while.
Jokkerb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't lean on sarcasm as your main source of humor, try to be positive sometimes. Make people work to discover your black fatalistic view of the world instead of broadcasting it, nobody likes a downer Debbie.
mepegan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:27:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand in front of a mirror and practice smiling. See which smiles are more flattering to you. Also smile with your eyes. people can tell when someone is faking a laugh or smile depending on eye contact. The eyes chico they never lie.
andyrosenberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:32:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Super late to the thread but I recently realized how much better it looks when people tweeze stray eyebrow hairs. It looks so much cleaner. Here's a picture I drew for reference
neuronalapoptosis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
number 1: shower.
Number 2: do it on purpose. Whatever you're doing with your hair and clothing, do it on purpose and it'll look way better.
Number 3: fucking own it. It's just more of the last, whatever you're doing on purpose own that shit. confidence is sexy and if you're doing all 3 of these in succession, #3 is gona slay the puy or dk, whichever you're trying to slay. Number 4: Take all 3 of these and apply it to every day life. Like have a fucking life and do it on purpose. Even if you're doing laundry at the laundromat, if you've showered, gotten dressed on purpose, and are fucking owning that laundry, you're gona' look sexy folding that shit.
Fondlingchipmunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is the best one on here... I want to look sexy folding that shit too!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:05:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be polite
arby84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:07:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Compliment people. Let them know you appreciate them. People remember when you make them feel good about themselves. And they see you in a more positive light. But be genuine about it.
exile0514 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1) Lose weight
2) Gain muscle
3) Shower
4) Wear clean clothes
5) Wear deodorant + light cologne
6) Keep hair well groomed
7) Dress above the occasion
8) Take care of any skin disorders by visiting a dermatologist
9) Britten your teeth
10) Smile more
11) Laugh more
12) Use less curse words and "ums" in your speech
mrpeppr1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:46:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These are all starting to look the same, so I'll add in mine- get enough sleep.
I used to think I was hot shit because I could function on 2 hours a day for months at a time, but really I was just meeting the bare requirements.
I was a husk of person simply with little personality. Everything I did took longer or was harder. I thought I was just a boring and introverted person for all of middle school and HS because of this.
It turns out I need a minimum of 8 hours or I just can't socialize and feel like shit in general.
Nothing to be ashamed of, though, I'm a much happier and interesting now.
ndymn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't use that Swedish app the rates your attractiveness based on an algorithm.
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
aw
jigabooJunction ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plastic surgery
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your fucking teeth. No one wants to smell the pizza you are last night as if clings to your buttery yellow chompers.
Starfish_Symphony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't unread this.
Jsreb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:57:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just smile more. People are attracted to positive things. Someone who smiles displays a sense of happiness and kindness.
Starfish_Symphony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or creepy weirdness. Take it from an introvert, smiling didn't help but being interested in others and expressing that clearly and without pretense really helped.
Jsreb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. I will elaborate by saying a smile backed with confidence is an attractive quality. I stand by that.
Safromra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear sunscreen every day! To prevent visible sun damage (wrinkles, hyper pigmentation) as well as prevent skin cancer
kpatable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yaas!
Pjones2127 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:12:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bacon?
mash3735 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never leave the house.
bon7bon2000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have good posture. You'll be surprised by how many people lack this!
Thechris53 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a Tent
biff421 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:45:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bro, fucking stand up straight
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:53:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women, wear sensible shoes out on a night out.
When a bloke sees you're clearly in pain stood in those shoes, and possibly even walking home bare foot with your shoes in hand he's just thinking "Mate, she's a fucking nightmate, no chance"
Megaladonald ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:18:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basic grooming. I ugly, but groom, so have girlfriend. Girl just like to know: man try.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is something "cavemany" about this comment.
Megaladonald ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually imagining myself saying it in a soft spoken African man's voice. Sorry to mislead ya there lad.
ifCreepyImJoking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:14:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear red. I used to never wear red, then heard it as a tip, so figured why not, and bought a red t-shirt. The next day, a friend walks up to me and says, "ifCreepyImJoking, you look healthier and more handsome today." Those exact words.
Also, if you're a guy with a parting, brush left to right. Superman brushes left to right, Clark Kent right to left. No idea why it works, but I started getting compliments after that too.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:04:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put magnets in your pockets....
What? You never said what you were trying to attract.
d65vid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:34:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you "don't care about fashion" or whatever, you should still be aware that clothes can matter more than you realize.
tinksmaster21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:32 on January 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit.. Doesn't matter if you are 90lbs or 400lbs. Also, just because they make it in your size, does not mean you should wear it.
CarlsInTheHouse ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 14:05:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress well. /r/malefashionadvice
Dragon_Fisting ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:40:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like they're speaking another language. El Niรฑo thread, jackets right? Wrong. Everyone unilaterally agrees you wear a Patagonia pateshell or something.
MushMcBigCock ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:48:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree. I was lost
carbonnanotube ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:25:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their obsession with high end technical clothing bothers me.
There are people who need clothing like this because they are in extreme weather, or are concerned about the mass of their clothing, or need multi-functionality to keep pack volume small etc.
The vast majority of the people in MFA will wear their $700 hard shell to the grocery store after driving there in their heated car and will pull out an umbrella to keep their fancy leather shoes clean.
Now, I own high end technical clothing, but I buy it because the cheap stuff has failed me on expeditions or trips in the past, not because I like to show off a brand.
Zardif ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a jacket...
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-torrentshell-waterproof-rain-jacket?p=83801-0
Patagonia is a brand. A shell refers to a jacket usually hard or soft to denote uses. Typically hard shells are water and wind proof and soft shells aren't.
carbonnanotube ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If MFA suggest technical hard shells to their subscribers they are morons.
A soft shell is plenty for the kind of conditions normal people are in. A hard shell is only really needed for extended time in extreme weather.
Zardif ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:05:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They even joke about it.
theultimatehero2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'd consider the terms "hard shell" and "soft shell" pretty loosely defined terms. If you have a rain jacket or anorak or something and you wear a light sweater underneath, you are essentially wearing a hard and soft shell. The one linked is pretty damn serious, but the term "hard shell" doesn't have to mean "Gore-tex Himalayan mountaineer jacket".
carbonnanotube ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For technical clothing it is strictly defined. A soft shell uses only DWR coating for water repellency.
A hard shell uses a Gore-Tex membrane in addition to DWR, usually in a two or three layer sandwich configuration.
theultimatehero2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hm I guess I hadn't realized it was that clearly defined. Can you link me the definitions? I worked in a technical clothing store for a few years and we used those terms pretty loosely. (I didn't sell clothing, only hard goods so I only got it second hand)
Either way I think it's fair to define it loosely for the general public. I personally believe layering is always justified so wearing a water proof non insulated outer layer over top of an insulating inner layer is my advice to people. Whether that fits the definitions or not it should suit most to "survive" El Nino.
carbonnanotube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is the great thing about layered systems. I can choose what kind of shell I need for the conditions. Hell, if I am in rough terrain I sometimes throw a soft shell over the hard shell because replacing the soft shell is far cheaper than fixing the hard one.
This article explains it very well: http://arcteryx.com/HardshellvsSoftshell.aspx?language=EN
As does this one: http://www.backpacker.com/gear/experts/ask-kristin/softshell-vs-hardshell/
inspired2apathy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does this mean? I don't think I'd want a softshell for even a full day hiking in rain or alpine skiing.
carbonnanotube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A full day of rain would be considered extreme. I will take the hard shell if I expect more than a few hours of rain.
Skiing, eh, I have done multi-day trips in a soft shell. It all depends on the conditions. If there is not a lot of precip the breathability of the soft shell makes things more comfortable. If it is snowing hard enough for me to need a hard shell, the chances are I am not doing much downhill. If I were on a tour I would take the hard shell though.
inspired2apathy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm skiing, I've driven or more likely flown to get there so I'm skiing no matter what. It's at least as much about wind as precip.
Also, you can get a decent REI gore-tex for cheaper than a Marmot/Arcteryx hard-shell so it's not really more expensive unless you insist on specific brands.
carbonnanotube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
REI / MEC stuff can be pretty great. I have a lot of MEC branded stuff.
But lets be honest, the higher end stuff is objectively better if you can afford it.
I went from a decent MEC hard shell to an Arcteryx Alpha SV (that I picked up used) the difference in comfort and fit is very noticeable. I wouldn't buy one new though, I can't justify an $800 jacket.
inspired2apathy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh sure, but if I'm really worried about wind or wet I'd take a $200 hard shell over a $200 soft shell.
zudomo ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 14:40:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also use r/frugalmalefashion
forumdestroyer156 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:54:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not so frugal, frugal male fashion
indirect_storyteller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's more useful if you get your basics from something like Target and find your own style. For instance, I recently got a pair Redwing Beckmans (factory seconds and the most comfortable pair of shoes I own) for $200 where they retail for $350-$400. Two years ago I wouldn't have thought about buying such an expensive pair of shoes, but now that I have my own style and aesthetic to achieve it's much more reasonable to buy a pair of boots that'll last 5-10 years at worst. They're also useful for me as a slow day at work has me walking three miles at least and occasionally kicking a projector screen into place. My point is that buying something simply because it's on sale will often lead to a closet filled with clothing only worn a few times and then hung up to dry.
zudomo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"My point is that buying something simply because it's on sale will often lead to a closet filled with clothing only worn a few times and then hung up to dry"
This is an assumption. The sub isn't "come buy things that are cheap", it's "Here are some sales, buy it if you want/need it"
And who does it hurt by just putting sales on there?
No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. That's left up to the individual on what they need/want.
Also I disagree with staples from Walmart or Target unless it's socks, undershirts, boxers.
Uniqlo is a much better choice for staples. They fit better and it's relatively cheap.
indirect_storyteller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Considering this is a thread targeted at beginners in the fashion world, I stand by my point. If you take a guy who's worn nothing but ill fitting tee shirts and jeans his whole life then just buying stuff out of the blue won't do him any good. Target actually has some decent button downs and pants while the Uniqlos fit has been re-written for Americans. In other words, they've made it a more standard fit that isn't nearly as good looking as it was in the past. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the sub or its community, but you really need to have your own style before you can justify spending top dollar on a shirt simply because it's on sale. Also I never said that posting sales was a bad thing, it just goes back to my original point of actually having a style.
zudomo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My whole comment was to use r/frugalmalefashion in conjunction with r/malefashionadvice
EDIT: I started doing this about 6 months ago. I used r/malefashionadvice to get ideas of how to look good and lurked r/frugalmalefashion to see what things could cost and if things would be on sale frequently. Now when I go on r/frugalmalefashion, I know if it's actually a deal, whether it's something that has regular sales.
ROO3D ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:23:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Such a bad subreddit, frugal doesn't mean "On sale" it mean "Shit I can't spend a lot of money on fancy stuff"
New_Acts ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:57:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're against the subreddit because of the name? Thats a little ridiculous.
And when the fancy stuff goes on sale, it becomes reasonable to buy..
I've subbed to that sub for awhile. its not all "this $600 pair of shoes is 20% off". People post downright dirt cheap stuff. UNIQLO is posted there on a regular basis because its cheap decent looking clothes.
I've gotten heads up on sales with coupon codes that stack to get 70-80% off before. Thats frugal
zudomo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a lot of reasonable things on there. A lot of pants for like $18 bucks, shirts discounted to $40. Sure some is still ridiculously high but for the most part it's decent prices. You gotta spend some money on things. The only thing I see really exorbitant are shoes and jackets but those things are costly. Have you even visited the sub?
ROO3D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I have, I just don't sub to it, the times I have been there that's really all I've seen, could just be coincidence but I've mainly just see extremely bs deals
CantEvenUseThisThing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Frugal means "I go scope out the men's section at Ross every week and hope something good snuck through"
GRuntK1n6 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:45:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also r/streetwear if thats your style
Moonstone-star ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:17:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/femalefashionadvice
Gammit10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that subreddit is such a circle-jerk now
ransack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THIS. Tested and approved.
jaytrade21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, never going there again. I tried, the flying spaghetti monster knows I tried, but no matter what it was, they were just speaking about shit that had no relevance to what would actually help me.
TheNaughtyMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Dressing fashionably takes a real committment, and a steady supply of money. I prefer buying quality that lasts, but is rarely fashionable.
I don't like playing male peacock. In fact, I like to go the other way. I have a nice German car, but what I drive every day is a beat-up old Jeep .
No, I don't date much. :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I frequent that sub when interested in buying new clothes.
For the people saying that they don't recognize brands/clothing names: Usually people provide links where you can buy the item mentioned. Or do a simple google search on a brand or article of clothing you don't recognize and it will open your eyes to some new styles and options.
Uniqlo is a great brand commonly mentioned on MFA that looks good, offers a lot of basic items, and is on the frugal side.
http://www.uniqlo.com/us/?gclid=CMTSrs2hk8oCFU4WHwod7cYPZA&gclsrc=aw.ds
I_hate_alot_a_lot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:31:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not drink so much beer / Mt. Dew. And junk food.
romulusnr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:55:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Things I already do but don't help worth a damn
Phatpiggy777 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:54:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a tent
anxiousgirl89 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:30:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People really hate it when I say this (especially women and I am a woman) but have long hair, if you're a woman wanting to attract men. I don't mean like down to your butt crack, but women look a million times more sexually appealing and physically attractive to MOST men with hair longer than shoulders (personally I still feel a bit sexless with shoulder length hair and I feel best with it at mid-back). I know some celebrities look gorgeous with short hair and everyone knows at least one guy who loves short hair, but if you're talking about the general population, the vast majority of guys prefer it long and the vast majority of women look better with it long. Some women seem to be considered really attractive just by having long hair and being not-fat when they're actually fairly average. If you can grow your hair, it's really quite an easy way to appear better looking without doing anything major or invasive.
GringodelRio ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:24:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would simplify that as have hair that is appropriate to you. Some women can really rock the short hair without looking butch. Some women can do shoulder length hair, some women can do longer... but it's not universal.
My wife for example looks really good with long hair, below her shoulder. She would not look good with short hair. But I work with a woman who looks stunning with short cropped hair... if she grew it out, it wouldn't work.
ArmyOfDix ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:58:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With good reason, I imagine. It's purely subjective.
anxiousgirl89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is everything, then. A lot of people on this thread say that getting in shape makes you more attractive, but there are people out there who love fat bodies too. I'm just talking about appealing to the widest amount of people and on average most men prefer longer hair (not all, of course)
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!! I love a woman with short hair. To me it shows confidence. Just my thing though.
To add to that, as a man, if I grew my hair out to the extent /u/anxiousgirl89 described, I would look like a fucking pedophile. No one likes a balding man with long hair. I keep a shaved head with a well trimmed beard. No problems in the dating department with regards to my hair length.
xXBootyLoverXx69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:11 on January 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nah they look like feminist lesbians to me
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:05 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To each their own.
AptCasaNova ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:52:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree - and I'm a woman with short hair. Heh.
I alternate between short and longish, for fun, but I get way more attention when it's longer. I also get "oh wow, your hair's getting long!".
Rebel-Dream ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:51:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really agree with you... To me, women having long hair is really attractive (I'm a female with long hair.)
tortillaandcheese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a woman with a big nose, short hair never looked good on me. HOWEVER, it looks damn good on a lot of people I know. Stay in your lane.
TheNaughtyMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Different strokes. I find a fine featured, expressive face with short hair to be incredibly attractive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know... I cut my long hair to shoulder length hair and now random people stop me on the street to tell me they think I'm pretty. I'm considering never growing it back out again. It was very unexpected result of cutting my hair.
anxiousgirl89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did a similar thing and my husband really likes it (I don't though lol) but shoulder length is still long to most people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea i still consider it long and i prefer it over super long hair
anxiousgirl89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone else seems to love my hair the length it is now (a little below shoulder) but I can't wait to grow it out! Oh well, it's just hair.
TerrorTanuki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind that this is the average. In the same way that some women SUPER love bald men (but most are indifferent/against baldness) some guys are SUPER into short haired women. Do your own style, but change it up if you aren't getting your desired results.
yourbrotherrex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girls with really long hair look kind of weird to me, honestly.
(I'm talking about the ones that look like they'd fit in at a Ren-faire.)
anxiousgirl89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:42:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, same here plus I don't think my hair can even grow that long. By long I mean below shoulders.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly the reason people hate it when you say this is because you're expecting someone to make a drastic, continuous change to their everyday appearance solely for your viewing pleasure. That's being an asshole. Hair has to suit the person whose head it's on every day before it suits your boner.
anxiousgirl89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't care what people do with their hair and I'm not attracted to women so I don't "expect" anything (nor would I even if I dated women). I was answering a question about what you can do to make yourself seem more attractive and then giving a suggestion lol. I suppose I should have said "nothing! Everyone is equally attractive and no preference is more common than another!"
ETA: my boner? Lol. I have a vagina.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I am this guy. There's definitely a general preference towards longer hair but I think that you should just roll with what you like the most.
As much as I love short hair I will say that it doesn't suit everybody. (Though the vast majority of the time I see a short haired reasonably in-shape woman I think that it suits her.) Long hair, on the other hand, is perhaps a more safe option. I've never seen a woman and thought "long hair doesn't suit her".
You might be a little less attractive to the general male population with short hair but there will be those guys who are super into it (provided that you're otherwise attractive.)
I may be slightly biased of course.
BeerPowered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not butt crack long? Butt crack long hair is so damn sexy!
anxiousgirl89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not possible for most women, and also on most hair types it turns into a cascade of really thin split ends and stuff. My husband thinks it's gross.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BeerPowered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About the height of my butt.
Absolvo_Me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Easy?? So taking twice as long to wash and dry it, tangles, or when it just randomly decides to look like a mop is easy?
anxiousgirl89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:54:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean...waiting for your hair to grow to your shoulders is easy.
9to5ishardtosurvive ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:11:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exercise, it improves your stress levels, and makes you look more relaxed, which makes you more approchable
ShotekSaint ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:03:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the gym. Eat a little better. Dress in your better clothes. Keep shaved and clean. Maintain nails.
zizzizzid ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:07:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maintain balls.
KMFDM781 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gold Bond
speedofgravity ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:40:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn how to groom yourself as a man. A well groomed man will stand out in the average crowd. Most men don't groom themselves well and you always notice one that is. Learn how to wear your hair, what hair products to use, cut your hair, trim your beard or shave properly. If you don't have a set of trimmers, combs, and hair products lining your bathroom you need to think.
GringodelRio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Grooming and properly dressing one's self is very important.
Anteatereatingant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. Pretty much everybody looks better slimmer, unless they're dangerously close to (or already) underweight. Makes a huge difference to go from overweight to slim, even to your face. You could have nice features and you could never know if your face is pudgy because that throws them out of whack and blurs your bone structure.
DSV686 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any advice for this? I have changed my diet drastically to eat healthier, smaller portions, I work out a few times a week, and yet I have been the same weight for 2 years (changed my diet and exercise routine around 4 months ago), with only minor variances.
Anteatereatingant ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:50:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Without wanting to offend you, that's not really physically possible. If you had reduced the amount of calories you eat, you would have lost weight, there's no way your body can work around that. Chances are you're eating more than you think - almost everybody does. Give My Fitness Pal a shot, it's free and lets you track calories...you'll probably be surprised at how much you're underestimating your eating.
TwistedPerception ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:53 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All you have to do is count calories. You weigh 200 lbs? OK you'll burn 2000 calories by staying in bed all day. Be mindful of you intake vs. your use.
Learn about how many calories get burned above that baseline if you exercise. It's not really all that much to be honest unless you're really working out hard. You have to be mindful of intake. And ALL intake. That soda from 7-11? Yeah it might be over 1000 calories depending on the size.
It's thermodynamics. You take in less than you burn, then you lose fat. Working out is great too to transform your body because you will build muscle while you lose fat. But you will lose weight either way if you just count calories and realize that you don't need more than you burn if you're not near death from starvation.
Drink lots of water. It fools your stomach into making you feel less hungry because it thinks that you're full because of volume. Plus water is soooooo good for your body in so many other ways. And it makes you more attractive because of that.
Source: I just finished losing 50 lbs.
SuperDuckMan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:24:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glue magnets to your body.
cardioZOMBIE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be rich.
PseudoY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or tall!
But mostly, rich.
cardioZOMBIE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:03:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 6'6"! Now I just need to figure out how to pay my bills with that...
cardioZOMBIE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:14 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Down voted for being tall!? You're all a bunch of damn heightists! I will bump my head in another thread, thank you very much.
PseudoY ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:05:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go hinter nach tinder and find some wealthy old splendor.
cardioZOMBIE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understand exactly 80% of those words.
TheNugWrangler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:37:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This thread is making me realize how little I care about being attractive...this all sounds like a lot of work.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wise.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:25:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Screwnames21 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:32:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh my god, He drinks a whole gallon of water a day! I have to have him!
Jason5678 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:25:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Show more cleavage!
KittyHammer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:55:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
( อกโ อส อกโ)
Maintain eye-contact while thinking about erotic thoughts about her.
Slow down my vocal pacing, lower the tone of my voice, and add pauses.
Offer her give her a lesson in salsa or bachata dancing if she never done it. If she does know how to dance, then invite her to dance right there.
Love and accept myself: yes, both the weaknesses and strengths.
Wear fitted clothes (dress well, feel well).
-Captain- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be friendly.
scelerat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise regularly.
Dr_Captain_America ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise!
DaakuTheDog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Manage your facial hair (eyebrows, beard, stash etc).
nothesharpest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence, integrity, and ability to shut up and listen for starters.
girouxfilms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Comb your hair and brush your teeth! Simple grooming that everyone should do to look and feel healthier. Healthy people automatically look more attractive to me.
356afan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit whining.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be aware of your self.
ChiengBang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence.
CarbonUnit8472 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk with your head up. It shows confidence. Chick's love confidence.
FlatheadHoser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen to people! Engage them in conversation and be open and honest.
Runforestru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a good pair of shoes.
DiarrheaMarinade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I make eye contact with everyone I pass on the street, even with women who are with their bf/husbands, confidence is attractive.
bpr2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:26:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how I met my last g/f. Made eye contact with her and smiled. Her b/f didn't like that much and fought with me. The victor got the spoils. Hehe. It didn't last long though, she and I were good together, but she smoked and I couldn't get past that and she wasn't able to quit, she tried, but she just couldn't kick it. I bumped into her lately and she's still smoking and with a total nob head that also smokes. Oh well.
DiarrheaMarinade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can overlook smoking, its no big deal to me.
LordAutumnBottom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be yourself and be confident in who you are.
Gooshnads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DONT SLOUCH WHILE WALKING! Keep that back straight as well, and don't look down! Look like you know where you're going and you have somewhere to go.
This made a hell of a difference for me, being 5'4", it sucks, but at least I feel more confident when I look confident even down to walking.
GMmichel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cultivate decisiveness.
Obviously you should also remain open to and respectful of other suggestions, but knowing what you want can be really attractive. Itโs a demonstrable way of displaying confidence, and therefore probably more useful than simply trying to โbe confidentโ (whatever that means).
TerrorTanuki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I take "be confident" to mean "don't be un-confident". Don't hide in the corner, speak up, stand up straight, voice your opinions, don't talk negatively to yourself/put yourself down in front of others, etc.
I see a lot of people that go strait for the dudebro attitude because they think that's what confidence looks like, but its more about not doing the little things that make it obvious you aren't confident.
r4wrdinosaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pluck your eyebrows. It's a simple thing that can change the whole look of your face. Here's a few guides for men, if you want to do it yourself:
If you're worried about fucking it up, head to a local salon that does it. They see men all the time, and won't think it's weird at all. Plus they'll be able to help you get a good shape that you can then upkeep at home.
aventador670 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a male, there are a lot of small things you can do to improve yourself.
Good haircut, preferably that you feel comfortable in and that it suits you. Use good hair products and already you have improved.
Clothes, not everyone is fortunate enough to buy expensive clothes but that doesn't mean you can't have a sick style on a budget. Stores like Marshalls/Winners are my favorite since they have the semi-designer brands for a decent price. Pair of diesel jeans that cost over $300? Will cost under $100 at a store like winners. And having a sick outfit doesn't mean it has to be flashy/loud. A good fitted pair of light jeans with a slim fit t-shirt and some white sneakers looks good on anyone.
Hygiene. I find this one to be the hardest to follow every day but it's certainly the most rewarding. Use the recommended shampoo/conditioner. Wash your face frequently and apply moisturizer. Obviously brush your teeth/floss. I would recommend the whitening toothpaste as it will whiten your teeth slowly over time without damaging your gums like those whitening kits.
Play sports/gym. Self explanatory.
issius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. Walk like you aren't a retarded puppet.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop being lazy at work. It's hot as fuck when people work hard and give a shit even if it's not a kegger.
CatherineCalledBrdy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you look tired all the time try using some brightener under your eyes. It's a great little makeup trick that anyone can use. It makes light reflect up to your eyes more and makes you look less tired.
It's the only makeup product I use regularly.
-Unnamed- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No shit, I get that I look tired, from a lot of people, even though I never really am. Is there a product that you can recommend? (I'm male)
CatherineCalledBrdy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use Bare Minerals Stroke of Light. I used it on my male costars in a movie and it really looks great and natural on everyone. I like Bare Minerals because I'm allergic to many things and I've never had a reaction to this product.
mendicantbias69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that actually fit.
locotxwork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one is very underrated
Ejacu1337 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
milkywayyzz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
TheWhiteshadow187 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SMILING
unycornpuke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Penis pumps
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.
PandaWithAnRPG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Table manners. Chew with your mouth CLOSED, don't openly burp, and if you do, say excuse me. Don't slurp anything, ever! Don't let food hang out of your mouth while you chew. You can be the most attractive person on the planet, but if you don't have basic table manners, you're just as bad as Minions...
SteeleK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except when eating ramen
PandaWithAnRPG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see your point, sir.
nrjk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise and eat right.
Exercise is free and frozen vegetables are cheaper than burgers. So, you save money and feel better. The more you do it, the more external validation you get which makes you want to do it more.
damn_yank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise/weight training. In addition to helping body composition, I've found it has helped my mood, confidence, and posture.
Dressing well in clothes that fit.
A good haircut/style.
Good grooming.
Learning how to speak publicly/confidently.
Geaux2424 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking a shower with real soap and shampoo
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Basic hygiene. Shower every day, brush your teeth, use deodorant, wash your hair. Too many people fail at those basic things. To look even better- style your hair and choose clothes that make you look good. Try things on before you buy them. Get a full-length mirror and look at how you and your outfit look before you leave the house.
If you do those things but are still too ugly- time to get a great personality.
Cagi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less crap. Don't think about food as taste things, think of it as fuel. Do you want the dirty gas in your car, or premium? With cleaner gas, your engine will run better, your exhaust won't smell so bad, and your car will be thinner for some reason!
erro16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Finally I would be able to fit in those tiny leftover parking spaces!
Iotatl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good...
Shfiend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat everyone the same way you want to be treated.
That hot blonde girl with blue eyes in the bar poops too. It stinks. Obama does it too. So as the homeless dude that smells like weed who lives under the bridge.
Don't judge/expect anything from anybody. Confidence is attractive.
withoutwaxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Fenixfrost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men, put some effort into your hair, women appreciate it.
forever_a10ne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth twice a day.
SlinkiusMaximus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit. By fit I don't mean skin tight, but at least make sure they have as little bagginess as possible. This made a big difference for my appearance in college.
Cheap clothes that fit well > fancy clothes that don't fit well.
angryguts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't wear baggy clothes, but to be clear, don't wear clothes that are too tight either!
SlinkiusMaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, agreed.
Edit: Although I think too baggy tends to be a more widespread issue than too tight imo.
HagmanPeace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a gentlemen. Yes Ma'am, No Sir; hold open doors for anyone, not just the one you're trying to impress; and just do generally nice things to other people. This gets noticed by a lottt of people. Shows how you treat people that you aren't trying to get their attention or a gain from them.
opalorchid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
funkefresh82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Believe you're attractive, and let it shine through your personality. There's nothing more attractive than a confident person who truly loves themselves and has a great attitude.
TheRealPinkman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Play a musical instrument.
_BearHawk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My trombone doesn't exactly make the panties drop.
gimme3steps101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a guitarist, I say bullshit. :)
TheRealPinkman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a pianist, I say it works.
reedownlee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be friendly, attentive, and also make it clear that if you and he/she don't hit it off, your world won't collapse.
snocat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hire a model to pretend to be you!
Harleight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
when guys have long nails, uncontrolled beard and their clothes say they didn't really try and the eyebrows don't look like a caveman
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your mouth closed. Ever seen someone just hanging out with his mouth open, a vacant expression plastered on his face? Yeah, shut your mouth and that won't happen. This also applies to conversation: listen more.
Pooping_brewer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry everyone, I straightened my back before entering the thread!
t0mRiddl3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hunching will make it easier to brew poo
FakeOrcaRape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Get clothes that fit. Seriously, I was always average looking (mom thought i was handsome) growing up, but when I Started wearing nicer clothes that fit every part of me appropriately (no more loose hoodies or over sized jackes), I Really could tell a difference. Also if you can find a reasonably priced t shirt that fits you well - buy like 10. I really like the crew cut express men t shirts and they often go on sale. They fit me really well. Even simple t shirts look awkward most of the time
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear a checkered hat and smoke a pipe.
Infuriated ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind, compassionate and helpful. Rawwwwwwr!
RoboTroy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
captkiro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay groomed. Wear clothes that fit (not baggy or too tight). Smile often.
Neckbeards are a fine example of what not to do. Unkept hair, baggy shirts and trenchcoats, and a look of disgust when you dis my little pony.
cubzee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight, drink lots of water, eat well and get enough sleep. Essentially just try to be as healthy as possible. Good health is visually recognizable. It's in our DNA to seek healthy mates. That's why you have never seen a super ugly olympics athletes. Not your type maybe but not busted. (Que pictures of one off ugly athletes to prove the generalization wrong)
Justjo3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clip your nails and clean your ears. I have 3 sister who always told me this growing up. Simple enough!
adsalazar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Way too late, but if you read this comment, there was a thread a couple years back of a guy doing research on facial attractiveness. Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1cstrm/i_did_research_on_facial_attractiveness_for_years/?limit=500
buzzcuttt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't look like you hate life
jazuminchan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, that's easier said than done.
buzzcuttt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as you acknowledge it you can work towards it
craftsparrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently have a trash can with a liner in your bathroom.
acidpope ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang out in darker rooms.
McDungleberry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile with your eyes. Most people can pick up on a phony or half-hearted smile, which can make you seem disingenuous or condescending. People who smile with their eyes, and do so often, radiate positivity and happiness to those around them. I'd rather be with a positive and happy person than a beautiful bitch with a scowl on her face.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be an active listener. My professor talked about this all of the time. When you're engaged in a conversation with someone, most of the time you're not really listening, you're thinking of what your response will be. So stop doing that. Instead focus on what they are saying and then when they are done, form your response. You'll sound much more intelligent when you've considered all angles of thought and you'll be much less likely to interrupt people.
zomething ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop eating.
djbootybutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
smokemarajuana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no answer to this question. It doesn't work like that (unless you are a vacuous, shallow, piece of shit).
elizte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just gonna put this out there.... Answer text messages. There are guys who went from 0 to "totally would do" just because I know they won't ignore me.
MrTreats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A good haircut makes a big difference. It can alter the appearance of your face to be much more appealing which is usually your first impression.
awwc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ingenieur01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower. I know some people who haven't yet figured this out. It's a good first step to not being totally repulsive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothing that fits, close your mouth, remember to wear deodorant. Brush your teeth, remember that the only thing important about appearance is that people will only care about it if you are meeting them for the first time.
Z0idberg_MD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This thread: "Things I do which I believe make more attractive"
I was hoping to see things other people find attractive. I promise you that people who find other people attractive don't know their skin care routine or their flossing habits.
OrcNation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower every day. Brush your teeth. Clean your ears. Lead the life you wish to live , believe in what you believe but never ever try to impose either upon any other.
That sums it up :)
Maybe , be active, do stuff, get out every once in a while to do something new. It's good for conversation and you will realize it is good for the soul as well.
iamthebobkat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't part your hair down the middle. For males AND females.
Ax_of_kindness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not?
iamthebobkat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's less attractive. You know, cause of this thread and all..
Ax_of_kindness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What?
VaneFreja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
take care of your hair if you are male with more than the standar haircut, and female with pretty much any length. Men with long hair can be sexy as hell, but not if their long hair is greasy and tangled. Have the split-ends trimmed!!
anseyoh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less and exercise more.
Or maybe eat more and exercise more.
It's simple, but it's not easy.
Chan9495 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet.. losing weight can make you a lot better if you are overweight.
Masters_Jam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture goes a long way. I find that cranking out 5-7 pushups using great form right after you wake up will help your posture all day.
basiccollegekid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth. I can't tell you how many people have bad breath.
poofblaze1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a positive attitude
Guitarolinist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't wear anything more casual than jeans outside of the house/gym. Going out in gym shorts, sweats, etc.. often conveys a lack of effort in appearance.
IncrediblyBetsy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be at peace with yourself
SweatyPetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start going to bed early (at least by eleven), waking up before the sun does, instantly drinking 16 oz of water, and farting in your hands. Every day. No more excuses.
ChairmanKevin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. A simple smile makes your entire appearance seem brighter and more happy, and anyone around you will seem more happy as well. :)
mbrw12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anterior Pelvic Tilt
Google it, then visit /r/fitness to fix it
AbombsHbombs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I see a lot more "posterior pelvic tilt"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking bathe.
docboy2u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have confidence but don't be a jerk.
cbarnett431 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight, good posture goes a long way.
Petelikesbacon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tailored clothes. Makes everyone......EVERYONE, look better
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence I believe is a big one. Just don't be an ass.
AtlantisBackHair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Routine showers and clean clothes are beneficial and always add a plus one to charisma.
kiahyu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink more water.
Stayinschool-tty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean and well dressed. Nice cloths don't have to be expensive. Good will it up baby, just don't dress like a the homeless. This applies to both sexes. Also dress your weight. If your a bit on the heavier side don't dress in tight spandex cloths.
Listen to others when there talking and show genuine interest in their thoughts ideas and passion. Not fake interest, but actually listen to what there saying instead of talking about your self. Women love to tell you everything about themselves and men like to feel like they are empowered in what they do.
Just be clean nice and genuine and most normal people will go for that.
KwyjiboTheGringo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Play a lot of video games. The rest will come naturally after that.
Im_More_Of_A_Lurker_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Improve your posture.
rectangularpotato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you arent a hateful asshole, i think it helps
FearTheTooth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
DevelisTeeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jerk off in private. Sometimes it's the little things.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay healthy!
abenco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your ass.
Jungian_Ecology ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink water.
rag3train ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly what seemed to work for me as a somewhat recently single guy was improving my shoe game. Women seem to pick up on that. No idea why but it's been working
reincarN8ed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out.
Doesn't have to be a rigorous routine. All I do is jog for 30 minutes a day, and I've lost 10 pounds in about 2 months. Progress has been slow, but it's not like I'm training for a marathon. After the 1st month, my gf said she could tell I've lost weight. At this point, it's as much a part of my daily routine as brushing my teeth.
sarasti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big keys for me that made a huge difference:
Get a nice haircut that compliments your face shape and keep up with it. (Styling, conditioning, whatever it is that makes it look good)
Fix your posture. (For me this meant strengthening my core a bit and working on back flexibility, but ymmv) Posture can be the difference between looking amazing and looking shabby. In line with this point, keep your head up and look people in the eye. These changes will also boost your confidence, which is sexy.
Take care of your face. Especially for men, this often gets ignored. Just grab a jar of aquaphor and throw that shit all over your face at night. You'll look sharper, more well rested, and your skin will likely clear up. (This in turn feeds your confidence, get them positive feedback loops going)
Lastly, wear clothing that fits and be honest with yourself about your body shape and complimenting it. When I stopped chasing my friends' style and just doing my own thing in correct sizes I felt markedly better and routinely get compliments. Just own you.
Harleyquincey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hitting yourself with a brick square on the smacker can work in some cases.
Betterthanthouu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure your hair suits you, and I mean all of it, head, face, body. The most important two are of course, face and head, I've noticed that if I let my hair and beard grow out for a while, I get practically no attention, whereas if I'm nicely groomed, I get quite a lot. Also ensure your body hair suits your look, a crapload of body hair isn't going to suit someone who has a cute face, whereas if you're a manly man with a beard and muscle, it might.
Another thing is nails, keep them nicely groomed and clean, it's easy enough to forget, but truly does go a long way, particularly long nails aren't attractive on males, and they're also very easy to get dirty, and dirty finger nails are extremely unattractive.
Voice is also something which I believe most people care about, try be well-spoken and somewhat articulate, most people will appreciate a well spoken person. "Please" and "Thank you" are also very important I believe, it shows you're considerate.
As for females(and some males), skilful application of make-up is very important. Personally, I think make up should be very hard to notice, less is more, women who have half a tub of foundation and have a stick up lip gloss on aren't attractive in my opinion.
Enigmutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean! Pay special attention to your teeth.
othernamewastaken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop smoking. Stop complaining.
aubreytaylor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a book. Or two. Actually just read anything. When a majority of your knowledge of the world comes from just video games, tv or school you find that holding stimulating conversations as an adult is difficult when you have nothing to offer. Educate yourself outside of school and actually give a fuck about the billions of things in the world you know nothing about. Knowledge is really sexy, but warning: being cocky and having an attitude like you know everything is the complete opposite of sexy.
jaemann ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to dance. I used to teach Ballroom and it really helped the social life of both genders. It isn't just because people who can dance have something to do socially that requires contact, it gives you grace, good posture, and confidence.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less is more. There's a difference between being flashy and attention grabbing and the more subtle eye-drawing quality of attractiveness
Chewy_Bravo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eye contact. Even if it feels awkward, eye contact. It's a subtle sign of confidence
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually groom. Nose hair needs to be pulled or trimmed. Clean shirts with no food stains. Hygiene.
It's amazing how many people don't get these basics.
jgaribay805 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put the phone down
conejaverde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, YES.
Be present. Don't neglect the people who actually care about you in the process of looking for validation from strangers.
jgaribay805 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put the phone down
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care about those around you. I used to pride myself on being an tough and cool, I acted uninterested in everyone who wasn't a very good friend. One day I had a rare (for me) moment of clarity and realized that I wasn't cool, I was an asshole. Now I show interest in those around me and try to help if I can. Surprisingly people like me better when I'm not an asshole; who'd a thunk?
Baalinooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat clean. Hit the gym. Strict hygiene. Take care of your skin. Be carefully groomed. Dress well. Practice dating: i.e. talk to girls anyway you can (e.g. using Tinder, chatting, going to social gatherings, birthdays, sports club with mixed activities - I met my current girlfriend in my rowing club).
yves_sanjiv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Attraction is subjective. Wear makeup properly, don't dye your hair a stupid colour, wear clothes that fit your body, keep impeccable dental hygiene, and don't get tattoos. Everything I just said could be the opposite for somebody else.
Dergono ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your fingernails. You might assume that people won't notice, but they will, and they will judge you for it.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They can judge all they want. I'll still only cut them like once a week so I don't stab people with them. That's being generous enough.
conejaverde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the people who like women:
Long, sharp fingernails make sad vaginas. Just fyi.
nokkieny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bite my daily
sminez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat as much as you can lay your hands on.
More mass = more attraction.
samantix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush. Your. God. Damn. Teeth. Yes, you. I know you brushed them this morning. Brush them again.
ColonelKetchup13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Physically, maintain your hair. Most "weird" or "awkward" looking people have poor hair health or they just don't care for it. I can't afford nice hair products so a simple wash and twice a week conditioning really helps. I'm a girl so straightening my hair helps the frizz and makes it look better. Putting a bit of effort into your mane can really 1 up how you look and potentially feel
Sozerano ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
vectortoons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're sick. Breathe through your nose. Not your mouth.
Wolf_Craft ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EYEBROWS. Well groomed and natural looking brows MAKE a face.
only-the-lonely ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not go out in view of the general public?
Ontopourmama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are balding, just shave that shit off, or just really short, no one wants to see a combover. Yes, you do see them occasionally.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try and exude a quiet confidence (not arrogance, its very different).
Wear what you love and love what you wear- if you're dressed in something you're comfortable in you'll be so much more confident and thus attractive to others. Nothing worse than wearing something you don't feel comfortable in and looking like a twat
JigeloSensei ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never always claim your opinion is the right one. Of course you can do this sometimes, but if you do it all the time you will be seen as a cunt who you can't have a normal conversation with. Even if you don't agree, try to listen to what other people have to say.
Halfhand84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
90 minutes of cardio every day.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP knees
Halfhand84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cycling / swimming / rowing
shortsbagel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 super easy things to get women to notice you more, 1: stand tall and dont hunch, 2: look out not down when walking and standing, unless you are looking at a specific thing, 3: take time to formulate a response and speak clearly and concisely.
robohymn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're musically inclined, practice until you're actually really good on whatever instrument you play. For many people, musical talent is a MAJOR aphrodisiac. I'm a pretty average-looking guy who plays jazz piano semi-professionally and I do very well on the dating scene for no other discernible reason. Well, musicianship combined with the kind of laid-back confidence you tend to see among good musicians.
xXVoicesXx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:17:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am female in band. Can confirm. Highly agree with this idea.
I participate in an extra-curricular where EVERYONE is somewhat musically inclined, but the ones who REALLY, REALLY good get all the attention. Males and females alike. Even if I see someone who isn't in band but play an instrument, they are instantly more attractive to me.
AvatarWaang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of yourself. Shower regularly, keep facial hair trimmed or shaved if you're a man, style your hair, keep it maintained. Pay attention to what you wear; don't just throw on whatever tee shirt and sweatpants are clean, actually try when you go out to meet people.
e_sunshine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen to people when they are speaking to you
gamebrigada ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good. Go out and get some dank cologne. It ain't cheap. Greatly recommend using davidoff cool water (non-deep). I had every girl smelling me in college. They would just talk amongst themselves about how good I smelled.
Elbiotcho ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women - lift weights
I guarantee that you will not get arms like Arnold. Muscle mass creates a beautiful shape and beautiful booties. Nothing is sexier than some muscle tone especially on the legs.
Same goes for guys. A guy with a beer belly looks sloppy. A guy with a beer belly, broad shoulders, and muscular arms looks tough. Lose the beer belly and look/feel even better.
stands_on_big_rocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise
Better Diet
Proper hygiene
Listen instead of waiting to talk
Passion about something
yoFace323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wearing a bag over my head works wonders for me
dakotamaysing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to a barber
sos_superman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture and clothes that fits you. Most guys can't get these two simple things right.
hi_haters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Groom your eyebrows. I always look like I have makeup on when I get rid of those strays.
Cashrunner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do some fucking exercise. You who you are and quit telling yourself tomorrow cause tomorrow is never and never isn't gonna help.
cecilrt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile
ScruffStuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have your clothes tailored. Not only do they look infinitely better, but they're more comfortable and you'll feel great. I just had a shirt tailored for the first time. I went out, and by the end of the night, someone had asked me to model for a photoshoot for them. Not joking.
CherylCarolCherlene ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are wearing a shirt that has a collar, iron it. sounds stupid, but it makes a real difference
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well fitting, good quality jeans made out of good denim and some attractive but functional shoes.
TheBiles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part your hair on the left
Budakang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait.... doesn't that make you gay though?
LoudMusic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't slouch.
Shower.
Get a haircut.
Iron your clothes.
Think before you speak.
Be kind.
Chew with your mouth closed.
Don't voice your extreme opinions.
slightlydainbramaged ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whiten your teeth. Don't go all neon crazy white, but whiten them a few shades.
derp_08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having an open mind. Nothing is uglier than the person who has all the answers and won't listen to others. I tend to stay from those types of people and I'm willing to bet many others do to.
RazorRabbit17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to let this go but since no one has said it yet: be on time.
As someone who is frequently late or rushing or telling people I'll be there soon (which is almost always a lie), I can tell you people hate it. My ex was extremely punctual and would drag me out of the house early all the time, and people definitely noticed the change. If you're always late, you seem unreliable, untrustworthy, and even incompetent. It seems so minor but it can have a big impact in the way people view you.
season22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit properly. Seriously, doesn't matter about body type; baggy clothing just doesn't look very good.
Pinkie056 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let that Zurich thing get you down. It's full of shit anyways.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't smoke. Smoking makes you look like shit if you do enough of it.
Hygiene. Seriously, half of looking nice is simply having good hygiene. Brush your damn teeth and keep your hair clean and arranged. Use deodorant, for the love of all that is good and holy. Clothes dirty? Don't wear them out in public.
Keep your hair trimmed. Even if it's long, it will behave so much better if it's trimmed and not full of split ends.
Wear perfume or cologne - not enough to smother passersby, just a dash. I like to dab a tiny bit on my neck and then put one tiny drop in my cleavage. Drives the boys wild. And by the boys, I mean "my husband". And by wild, I mean that once in a while he notices I smell nice.
Wear clothes that fit. Stuffing your body into clothes two sizes too small in the hopes that nobody will notice that you're chubby isn't fooling anyone...and it doesn't make you look thinner, or sleeker, or younger. Clothes that fit you properly will look so much better!! Ditto goes with draping your body in sweat shirts or track pants because you hate it and want to hide it...it just looks like you are sad and have given up. And that might be true, but you could be sad and give up in an outfit that looks fly as fuck if you just take the time to find stuff that fits you properly. It also helps to make sure that the shape of your clothes doesn't hit you in a spot that looks bad or that emphasizes a feature you hate - if you think your ass is too big, this means you shouldn't wear leggings as pants and pair them with a jacket that ends at the waist whyyyyyy do so many girls do that to themselves it looks so bad even if your butt is tiny!!! pulls hair out And find colours that look good on you - if it makes your teeth and eyes look whiter, and makes you look more awake, and makes your skin look bright and nice, that's a good colour on you; if it makes you look feverish or yellow, or emphasizes the bags under your eyes, or washes you out, don't wear it because it's a bad colour on you.
Take care of your body. Eat properly, sleep lots, and be active.
Jamulisprime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The old saying, "beauty is skin only deep but ugly goes to the bone" in my experience is real. In my 30 years here, I have seen some very good looking people be complete and utter scumbags. Be a good person, treat every person with respect and kindness.
Lose weight for yourself, to be healthier, don't lose it just to be more attractive. Don't be shallow. There are a lot of good tips here already for being more confident and physically attractive, but as I say above, if you are an ugly person i.e. mean, hateful, cruel, and unkind, then nothing here can help you, you have to start from within.
mr_garcizzle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a motorcycle. Girls love motorcycles.
thisrockismyboone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All I can say is that my current girlfriend of 1 year would have not bothered saying hi if I didn't have a beard.
Paawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear eating magnets is a quick way to become more attractive :)
Americaffuckyeah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave your excess body hair. It will make you feel a lot sexier
mushbo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men, wear women's perfume. I swear to god the women would flock to me and tell me how good I smelled. If you don't want to wear women's perfume, get something that smells like chocolate.
Women, If you smell like a steak (medium rare) or WD-40.
MatthiasChareezy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Close your mouth. I am tall (6'5") and this seems to affect tall guys more often. I used to walk around with my mouth agape for no good reason and it made me look like an oaf. It never occurred to me until my sister and I were looking at pictures of ourselves and she asked me why my mouth was always open, gotta love family. She was right though, and i started making a conscientious effort to keep it closed, the result being that i frequently clench my jaw. Anyway, huge difference, I no longer cringe at candid shots of myself and random strangers no longer approach me to ask if I need help.
Belazriel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't check https://faces.ethz.ch/ it'll make you lose that confidence other people are suggesting you need.
lead999x ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. And it's about damn time I did just that.
PotsyGlorious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that for properly. Fight the urge to simply base a wardrobe on comfort. Especially as you hit your 30s. Good, well-fitted clothes make a big difference.
semiauto227 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Send unwanted dick pics
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good hygiene.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
have neat and clean fingernails
HarbingerDe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This ^ This ^ and more this ^
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take an hour a day to go to the gym. Control your calories. Eat a bit healthier. Posture. Cut your hair a different way. Get out of your comfort zone and people will notice.
wannabeasupermodel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that actually fit you.
Justincredible207 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cologne
AlCapown3d ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon.
eatingpeanutbutter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently someone else used the new hotness website and feels bad too
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a healthy weight for your height.
Hashly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your ass.
nj2fl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HYGIENE
JC2535 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:59:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile and Laugh. Smell good. Floss like it's a religion and you're a zealot. That's about itโฆ
Zor00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
420BlazeIttFagot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture. Walk straight back stiff and not slouching. You'll be more easy for someone to come up and talk to than walking or sitting slouched.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"A website made by Zurich University to tell you how attractive you are" spinoff ?
jessiered21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your damned teeth and hair. Every damn day.
Reyeorts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you meet new people, don't just talk about yourself. Being a good listener displays maturity and social awareness, which is very attractive. And all you have to do is shut the fuck up for a minute...
bakedwell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean fingernails and clean shoes go a long way
Crazyguyintn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be an asshole if that hasn't already been stated
imanism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim pubes.
Bonus: merkin mustache.
Maximusplatypus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't fidget or pick your nails or bite your nails or scratch your skin or pick your skin. It makes you look like a worrier and lowers your social status/value
I stopped chewing my nails and skin a few months ago. First time I've had cuticles in 14 years
W00DERS0N ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight
Ciron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:15:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a book, (not a sports page, not a magazine, but a book);
Raise your kids;
Drink water (your body needs it);
Buy some land;
Brush your teeth
Wear deodorant (speed stick is not expensive);
and don't forget to read a book.
dirkalict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear anti-perspirant not just deodorant. Menen Speed-stik over sweat stink is horrible
wanzerr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BRUSH YO TEETH BRUSH YO TEETH BRUSH YO GODDAMN TEETH
shit I had forgotten that song.
ssup3rm4n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:15:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower/bath
Spear99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:15:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put some effort and thought into your wardrobe.
Have good hygiene.
Have a passion or a hobby.
Be confident and friendly.
Do these 4 things and regardless of how you look physically thanks to genetics you will appear more attractive.
ULTRON22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the love of god wear deodorant, and keep breath mints or gum handy
Sippin40oz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care for your eyebrows. They can make or break a face. Go get them done by a professional. If you have a serious lack of browage, get a professional to teach you how to put them on. Good brows attract attention to the eyes and make it easier for people to read your emotions.
corrikopat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture. One easy thing is to push your elbows back almost behind you - then everything else lines up straight.
Waco_Lawdawg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think wardrobe is huge. i don't even mean nicer quality clothes, i just mean ditch the tshirt for a button down (which can be found cheap) and toss the sweatpants for some khakis or nice jeans.
also, you wouldn't know it from my post but using proper punctuation and spelling in e-communication goes a long way.
GoinStraightToHell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't automatically agree with everything your attractee says. Sure you should have some stuff in common, but contrary opinions make for excellent conversation. It also shows you are your own person.
ExtraSnowyFeet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being attractive consists of two things; personality and physical attractiveness. Personality is a bit tricky because its hard to think about changing that. Being more friendly with random people(especially kids), and showing respect to the world. Your personality effects attractiveness for long term relationships. For physical appearance however, is about catching someones eye, and this for most people can be as simple as being well groomed and wearing nicer clothes.
Shitburp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bathe, brush your teeth
GregoryPickering ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Posting from phone so sorry if someone beat me to this.
Drink a gallon of water a day. Hydrates the skin, flushes impurities, and helps keep you full so you snack less and have less of a desire for sugary drinks.
Literally buy a gallon jug and carry out with you. The more you hold it, the more you'll drink. Make sure you finish a few hours before bed time. You don't pee as much as you think after a while and will be surprised how easy it is to do after a while.
Got my wife to start doing this when she was pregnant and she still does it and always said she wishes she would have done it sooner.
jedi-son ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not going to post pictures but I was jokingly/seriously voted most improved during college. Here are some basic things you can do:
Start working out. I was about 6' 150lb when I entered college and left around 180lb. Working out makes you feel great and will do an amazing amount for your confidence. Additionally, improving your back muscles can greatly help with posture but in general posture is something you should make an active effort to improve. Nothing to complicated here just stand up straight.
Get a real haircut. I ditched the jew fro for something shorter and easier to maintain. Get a comb and run it through your hair when you get out of the shower. You'll be shocked how much this can change the way your hair behaves. I went from fro to flow with this simple trick (heyo buzzfeed).
Get a decent wardrobe. You don't have to be James Bond but try not to look like you live in a van down by the river.
Practice smiling. This sound ridiculous but it works. I had one of those goofy ass super awkward smiles and I made an effort to fix it. Just look at how you smile in the mirror and try to not look like a goon. Not too hard.
Honestly if you put in the effort the payoff is more than worth it. My success with woman has increased like 10000%. Not trying to sound like a douche just telling you it works.
EmphaticGreyMage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll answer with a story!
As a lad, I grew up very nerdy, with that comes wearing my pants closer to my nipples than to my waist level, styling my hair poorly, allowing all sorts of nerd jargon to let fly from my mouth...the works. Textbook nerd.
7th grade, I'm awkward to look at, sat with the outcasts during lunch(brought a lunchbox too), was in chess club, was very pale and gangley...it was a bad time.
Now over the years, I had never wanted to change, despite my mom's attempts at helping me look 'cool'. I told her I was very comfortable with my appearance. At least until 7th grade, when I realized that I was lonely, saw that I looked like an idiot, and was very tired of being bullied.
I wanted to be cool, and have cool friends, and do cool things. So I made a change, the next morning, I wore my pants at my waist, didn't style my hair in the ugly manner to which I was accustomed, left my lunch box at home, and asked my 'cool' friend if I could sit by him at lunch.
After that, it all changed, I made so many great friends, started listening to all sorts of cool music, did things I'd never dreamed of doing as my geeky self.
To get the person I am today, it was quite the iterative process, it didn't happen all at once.
So random redditor, I'll leave you with these tips:
-realize that you want to change, not just for other's approval, but for yourself! -understand that you must be patient, it isn't an overnight thing. -accept criticism, the good and the bad -confidence is key, but don't get cocky.
70camaro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get your hair cut regularly.
rudown2brown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more
Toastmaster3000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wipe your buns
Eddie796 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Increase your mass
ElephantElmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be thoughtful of others and of your words.
DaveySpo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower everyday, keep your hair (including facial hair) from looking nappy. Make sure your clothes smell clean. Keep your nails clipped. Just take overall good care of yourself.
It sounds dumb but I go by "look good smell good feel good"
When I feel clean there is a big difference in my confidence levels.
mooneb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clothing that fits properly makes a world of difference
whodatfever ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit you
friedricekid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
give a shit
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure your hair is clean; no dirty hair because it looks terrible and doesn't smell too good when passing by another person. It is noticeable.
Manicures for men and women make a big difference in appearance. It looks really nice and professional.
Be conservative with any scent used whether perfume or cologne.
Make sure you have breath mints.
Pachi2Sexy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.
username_choose_you ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight and have good eye contact.
Yes-She-is-mine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have some pride. Don't tolerate anyone disrespecting you. Don't be a pathetic mess of a person who is willing to deal with being treated like shit in hopes of having someone wanting to be with you. If who you lust over isn't into you, walk away.
And most importantly, brush your teeth! ;)
Jakesta7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fix your hair. For men, get a haircut and part your hair with some product.
tabasaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your nails. Shows you take out time to groom yourself in the little things as well. No matter what you wear or look like, I feel hygiene is the most important
sweetjPDX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chew with your mouth closed and don't talk with food in your mouth.
MichaelScottIsMyHero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take off glasses (according to the movie industry)
Satinsbestfriend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash. Yo. Ass.
fly19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss your goddamn teeth every now and then so your breath isn't the worst thing to ever happen to whoever you're trying to impress.
macbook_pancakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be overly negative or pessimistic
Haussage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are some things YOU can do to make YOUR self more attractive?! Hmmmm?
How dare you, I'm damn sexy.
Kinddertoten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a male, have confidence. Both me and my best friend are honestly equal to each other in attractiveness but in all the years we've known each other I've always had a significantly high success rate with women. He has a hard time talking to women fumbles around himself well I am very confident and know exactly what I want to say and how to say. (Me and him were actually just discussing this last night)
drhorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy clothes that fit you.
They don't have to be expensive, but make sure they actually fit your body type. Only way to do that is to try on clothes until you find the ones that fit you.
Hint: baggy clothes don't fit you well. By definition.
IndustrialTreeHugger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A $25 teeth whitening kit from Walmart. Even if your teeth are crooked or with gaps, whiter teeth makes your appearance a lot better. Thats just a small physical change.
As for attitude - do something you have always wanted to do, but you were afraid of. It doesn't need to be something crazy like sky diving... just do something different.
NicotineGumAddict ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
woman here. I used to think it wasn't important how I looked but if u look nice u get treated differently... just a fact.
so but I'm very simple. I have about 3 "good" outfits I rotate (I'm unemployed so it doesn't matter to me to have more clothes) and when I go out I wear my simple but nice outfits. out my hair in a neat bun or pony, and I always wear eye liner and a bit of makeup, spritz of perfume.
I don't do much jewelry.... but I always keep a pair of earrings in that don't hurt and I don't have to change, and a ring my boyfriend gave me.
and smile. smiling at people puts them at ease and helps them to like u more.
I do take care of my skin..... lotions I sleep in at night probably 4-5 nights a week.
I only bathe once or twice a week - I'm not gross, but growing up in Europe Americans seem to over bathe to me. and when I shower I dry and curl my hair and it stays that way for most of the week....
I'm super simple and not fussy, but you have to look nice for people to like u.... and don't forget to smile....
NotThatJennyOK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat others well.
People notice when you're the guy who never holds the elevator, tips the service staff or waiter, uses the last of the toilet paper, don't return your grocery cart, etc. Basically, nobody wants to date a dick. Take the extra 5 seconds and don't be a dick.
mango__unchained ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Be confident (and if you're not, fake it).
Be positive. Try to see the good, the fun, or at least the funny in everything. You know the proverb: "Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone"? Well it's true โ nobody likes a downer.
With that said, keep it real. Disingenuousness always makes me question someone's motives.
Last but not least, when it comes to appearances โ know what works for you and what doesn't. The latest fashion trends always look good on models because they're models; they might not flatter your figure very well so find out what does and work it! And the importance of good hygiene cannot be understated. In short, self-awareness goes a long way.
guppymill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight. Lead with your sternum when you walk. Relax your shoulders.
RisenImpulse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be Rude and have some manners
TomCosella ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check the fit of your clothing. It doesn't matter if it's cheap or expensive, if it doesn't look right on your body, you look sloppy.
formerlysavannah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something I find very attractive is when someone uses my name when talking to me -- I can't really explain why... but it works on me!
spacesticks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me? Nothing. I stay home.
DingJones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Close your mouth. Also, eliminate, ya' know, fillers in your, like, speech.
iGolle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry about making yourself attractive.
Zadik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take off the fedora, shower and shave.
Zyr47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then put on a good suit and the fedora.
Iron_Turtle_Dicks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't have a website tell you if you are attractive.
delavega317 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile!
GermanAggie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout
Rourne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight. You'd be surprised the immediate, positive difference good posture can make on how you look and what people think about you.
Jubjub0527 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm late and this will never be read. Women: makeup. I'm not saying you have to overload it but some foundation and a natural eyeshadow selection will go a long way. Men: clothing, namely, a suit that fits you well. Get it tailored. Everyone: clothes that fit. Get some stuff tailored to your size.
yourderek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Stop walking or looking around with a disinterested scowl on your face.
This is one thing I noticed in other people before I saw it in myself. When you wear a frown like that, it makes you look unfriendly and unnapproachable. I would assume pessimistic things about the world and the people around me but I was only reflecting my own negativity.
Beast_In_The_East ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't smoke. Smoking is the most disgusting habit one can have and turns the best looking person ugly.
Other than that: Shower. Brush your hair and teeth. Wear deodorant and clean clothes that fit. Cut your nails before they're long enough to catch dinner.
myCommentsAreTheLaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Embracing eye contact with everyone, all situations.
yourfaceisgreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a dude with short hair, part your damn hair. Buy some pomade and slather a little (A LITTLE) in there. It can make all the difference between "college freshman with bangs swooped to the side" and "adult".
theteaspoonthief ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:33:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A genuine smile makes people more attractive
theseleadsalts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that actually fit you.
jdwoodman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Manscaping never hurts. Girls like a beard but not a Wookie.
rainyhere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture.
mkhpsyco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late to the game, but please use shampoo.
I understand if you have looked it all up and read the science and all that shit, but no one just straight up leaves behind shampooing. They just do it less.
Got a friend who has straight up stopped buying shampoo, hasn't shampooed his hair for a couple months or more, his hair is greasy as fuck. If he just washed his hair once a week with shampoo, he'd be way better off.
BackDimplez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't walk out in public looking like you got face fucked by crayola markers
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit.
chubbsmagoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure some similar things have been expressed before me. My personal ones. Don't slouch, do trim your nose and unibrow hair. Don't cut people off when talking, do humor people in a casual setting. Don't try to relate everything a person says to a personal experience of your own, do ask them more about what they just said.
Adgum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basic hygiene. Wash yourself. Hair and body. If you have a beard, wash that too. Clean in and behind your ears. Around your genitals. And mainly if you are a guy, your arse Crack (hairy ones mainly). The amount of people I've had to walk behind in public settings putting out a putrid stream of shit is rediculous.
Brush your teeth, floss, use chewing gum daily. Dont eat junk food everyday and your skin won't look so oily. Dont slouch. Look at people when you are talking to them. Etc etc etc etc.
Colbion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
abrahima7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be yourself! You can go through life being nice acquaintances with everyone, or you can be yourself and find people who love being with you, and establish real, deep connections with. I'm not saying be a shirt person, but if you like something, don't be afraid to say you like it amd express how you feel. Yes, you'll have haters, but you'll also have real, emotional connections with people close to you. You won't just go thru life being that one dude (or girl) that just "gets along" with everyone, but nothing more.
There's a great quote by Dr. Seuss that goes, " Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."
All credit goes to Simple Pickup (YT channel)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have really good hygiene and dress decently.
lacielaplante ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut that suits your face. A fully shaved head suits about 4/100 people. Try another look.
Kignak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's this movie I watched that told me to eat fetuses to look younger.
TheCheeseGod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BE AWESOME!!!
dekindling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulders back!
chrononaut1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kill everyone who is more attractive than you.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind. You dont have to sickeningly sweet or be a push over but be friendly or approachable.
Bca214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just avoid going into well lit areas. The darkness hides my flaws rather well.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet Exercise and Sleep.. Speaking of sleep
carolinablue199 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit! Many people wear ill-fitting clothes, especially young men. So many wear suit jackets that are too big in the shoulders - you look like a teen borrowing your dad's coat for prom.
Tailored clothing makes a huge difference in attractiveness.
adriD2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a girl with thick (a lot of hair): layers.
imahuhman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I going to say that beyond good oral hygiene, use teeth whitener. You'd be surprised how much it will brighten your face.
MidEastBeast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man, get a haircut at least once a month and spend an extra minute or two, before you leave, combing your hair and put a little gel or cream in it to make yourself look presentable.
Hypermeme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get enough sleep every night (6 hours bare minimum), be physically active, eat well (eat your fucking vegetables you animals), interact with other humans (practice makes...better).
sooprvylyn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here is a simple thing...eat healthier. Here is another...get some exercise. Simple thing, but not easy.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
These are three things I've heard from both men and women over my (admittedly) many long years of life on this crazy planet.
How you look? Not actually that important. Wash your clothes regularly, shower and use deodorant and toothpaste. Trim or shave any hair that shouldn't be there. Stand up straight. Check your breath occasionally. That's about it.
somebodynamedshad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise. ...If a redditor comments on a post with 10k+ comments, does anyone read it? Is there anybody down here? Hello??
KetchupPackmaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, nobody is not here right now, please hang up and try again.
tobyrrr00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure you smell good, and keep your face and clothing on point. that is a first step. then you could start exercising to make everything increase in value even more
BigGiff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To chew with one's mouth closed!
gettothachopa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile
agentorange360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth. No one likes skank mouth. Even if you don't have the best teeth. Just take care of your mouth.
2old2care ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turn off the lights.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A paper bag
_gina_marie_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be well spoken. A well spoken individual, who correctly pronounces words and is clear and articulate is very attractive and also usually respected. You don't need to know how to spell things (I sure don't) just sound good. It goes a long way with a lot of things.
patrickverbatum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower, wear clean clothing.(not pj's, pj's mean you just don't give a shit) and brush your hair and teeth. Upkeep on standard personal hygiene makes a huge difference.
microdon23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you were just homeless. For most of society this is taken for granted.
patrickverbatum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd bet a lot of homeless people would love a hot shower and clean clothes. And sadly, clean, they somehow become people to other people again rather than "some dirty homeless person". It's horrible how they're treated since many don't have access to things to upkeep hygiene. But seriously, I know people who are not homeless and they just for whatever reason slack on personal hygiene. You could be physically attractive but if you don't shower, have gross teeth and breath and look like a bird is nesting on your head, that takes away from your attractiveness. Cleaning yourself up is one of the easiest ways to become more attractive if it's something you slack on. *edit for spelling
RockVonCleveland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm seeing a lot of "be positive," "be clean," "be confident," and things of the sort. Fuck all that. If you want to be attractive to me, be yourself. Don't listen to what anyone tells you to doโฆ except your doctor. Definitely listen to your doctor.
NailArtaholic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be polite, even to strangers. If a stranger is polite, be polite back. Snobby/rude people instantly become a zero in my book, no matter how physically attractive they may appear.
nycgirlfriend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit right. Makes such a difference!!!
ikcaj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth and smile. It doesn't matter how God-awfully atrocious your teeth may be, (or what's left of them); get some Crest 3D White toothpaste and brush that lone snaggle-tooth 'til it blinds people. I promise at least I will find you more attractive.
SarahKalia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
treat waiters/waitresses nicely
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i never understood that one.
Starfish_Symphony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It shows worldly finesse in a potentially awkward situation. Restaurants create a really odd dynamic: Servers are being paid to help you order your own food. This small interaction in itself crosses a LOT of social boundaries; you are talking with a servant that has control over your food. It's a weird social dynamic. Being able to successfully navigate this small but important area shows that you are gracious, informed, worldly, kind, smart, but most importantly aware of the situation's complexity but handle the entire affair as easily as brushing one's hair. It shows maturity.
1wsx10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i meant i never understood why people are mean to waiters. they can spit in your food!
Starfish_Symphony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that too.
muskoka83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:29:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a little bit of a double chin, press your tongue to the roof of your mouth and you can feel that area pull tight. This is especially useful for photos.
Drafo7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
MajorGotRaked ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So many people don't realize you project what you feel or how you feel about yourself without even trying or thinking. the brain, in my opinion is the strongest muscle in the body, yet the hardest to train, and is one that needs to be exercised many times everyday. The more you neglect other human interaction the less human you feel to other people. If you are looking for shallow attraction (physical appearances) then step up your hygiene or and or physical activities. First of all start off with knowing what you really want in a person, then decide what steps to take to attract that certain type of person. A lot can happen subliminally with your direction change in searching for a future SO or prospect. Don't change who you are as a person but be open to adjustments, especially if you are striking out. You need to know and project what you want to have; and the universe will serve it (if you put in the effort). Keep in mind that people usually want what they cannot have so keep your standards lower at first while playing the field, but don't settle or tie yourself down too soon. Someone who rushes a relationship is usually insecure and or trying to make you attached before giving you proper chance to realize if they are right for you. Once simple attraction is met and recognized then make your move. Know when to be aggressive and when to be more assertive and play conservative (NO ONE likes someone who doesn't know how to listen, be assertive). Again people want what they cant have, so don't play an illusion but keep it interesting (leaving some imagination in the mix). Like others said the more confidence you have with yourself the better off you will be, but not letting ego get in the way. Confidence has foundation; meanwhile ego is just hot air; only keeping you up for so long.. Putting yourself in uncomfortable situations like talking to a random girl at the coffee shop or volunteering for random things will help you expand your circle and confidence cloud. the more you interact the better off you will be but first you need to work on YOU. hope this helps; just what ive learned in my 23 years of existence.
icareaboutpotatos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a tent
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what?
MyAntsRMarching ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It turns out I'm less attractive than a tent. http://reddit.com/r/funny/comments/3zncq8/it_turns_out_im_less_attractive_than_a_tent/
1wsx10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
brilliant
Mexicantdie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chew with your god damn mouth closed.
SneakyTubol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stop whipping out your smartphone from your pocket, or constantly checking it when you're with someone, especially if it's your SO or a girl you're courting.
V4refugee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise. Focus on doing something productive. Focus on being the person you wish you could be.
Starfish_Symphony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't put it off for much longer; BE the person you wish you could be.
Skavis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember you're attractive and believe it, then you will be.
Magra7hea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Subtle.
jazzhory ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a firm handshake for goodness sake.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grow a neckbeard
destructormuffin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys, a nice foundation will even out your skin tone, can be pretty affordable, and will add two minutes to your daily routine. Don't be afraid of a little make up.
reverendcat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower, wash your clothes, wear clothes that fit, floss and brush your teeth, don't be a creep, be respectful.
happyplace123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i streched my shoulders back so many times while reading the coments
Archimode ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women can easily look more attractive by just smiling instead of biting their lips or making duck lips.
osiris775 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You will make more friends by being interested in other people, than you ever will by trying to get other people interested in you.
Zag_up ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
beer.
kabhaal87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of it.
supervy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat others with the best of manners, compassion, and thoughtfulness--especially friends and families of those you're closest to. In turn you will attract those who appreciate such qualities whether it be in your career, social, or love life.
CastielWesker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident. Not be an asshole. Be confident.
aamanderp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean underneath your fingernails. Toes too.
steingrrrl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your pillowcases and sheets at least once a week. It made a noticeable difference in my skin for sure, especially the side of my face that's usually on the pillow all night
pumpinpat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Baking Soda:
โข Wash your face with it to exfoliate your skin โข Brush your teeth with it to whiten your teeth
goldhelmet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:39:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop smoking.
shelbyharper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hugging someone for 20+ seconds creates oxytocin which can reduce stress.
Also, 10 minutes of skin exposure to the sun will get you the daily needed dosage of vitamin D.
NEXT_VICTIM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The oxytocin can also be created by simply doing something you honestly like. A self reward for doing something you need to do also creates a decent amount of it.
The vitamins D thing depends on if your deficient and how well you absorb sunlight.
33f4spaghetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
tipsygnome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be positive
JimBob-Joe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
suck in that belly
imTinyRick_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:46:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be a dude.
silentbeast19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the American Gardens Building on W. 81st Street on the 11th floor. My name is silentbeast19. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
kit3high ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile lots, don't forget to make eye contact. Use deodorant.
If you're a girl, get some eyeliner - that stuff transforms your face and isn't too difficult to use.
ProbablyNotAFeminist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:47:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girls with glasses - We can be very sexy, but you need to figure out what glasses suit your face - the shape, what goes with your hair and eyes and how you dress. As soon as you do that you'll be amazed at the difference.
raeiou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:21:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat the school hallway as your own personal runway. Chin up, stomach in. I sometimes get head-turns because of the faux confidence I exude, especially when it's a Monday.
son_of_nova88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:23:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are from Africa then don't dare mention you are an atheist. you'll get the unredeemable hatred of your life.
Bobelle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:56:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So true. My art teacher said he would disown his child if he ever became atheist.
son_of_nova88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
apparently it's fine if you answer "i don't go to church" than "am an atheist". it'll be centuries until we see significant tolerance.
angelinabobina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:30:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all have things that we're insecure about.
The secret is to not constantly talk about those insecurities in the apparent hopes that someone will take pity on you and try to fix you. Don't do that. Not doing that gives even the most unfortunate looking person a couple of extra attractive points. Focus on the positive.
Also, smile. I don't mean become one of those psychotic looking people who are constantly smiling. Just smile when it's appropriate. Smile at people. I know this guy who is normally perfectly average looking. When he smiles, though... good god. Something happens to his face, and he goes from a 4 to a solid 7.5-8.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower: I mean, come on it's surprising how many people don't fucking do this. Although I do work at a gas station and see people at their worst.
Brush your teeth: Even if it's only once a week, do it. I've seen too many fairly attractive people with what looks like lines of plaque on their teeth where their lips sit.
Don't eat like a slob: No one enjoys watching you scarf down food like a starving hog eating slop. Even worse, a lot of people don't attempt to close their mouth and smack. If it sounds like two obese people having rough sex when you eat, you need to close your mouth.
usuallyquitesane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:56:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile :)
homoredditus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:08:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be exceptionally kind and thoughtful, and exude self confidence that spills into those around you (in a subtle way, not a jerk way)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't do things to impress other; improve yourself for the sake of improving yourself and the right people will notice.
uAreNotYourUsrName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:52:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up and listen. Let other do 95 % of the talking. But when it's your turn, have an opinion. No "i don't know" or "whatever", try to contribute to the conversation. Makes you look smart. And, to be fair, its what smart is in to a big extend
abeetlenameddesire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lose weight
mad_kap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For girls: Get your eyebrows done, invest the time and money (maybe $30-$40) and get them threaded-threaded is the way to go if you're a wimp like me and it looks best. It cleans up your face like NOTHING ELSE. Well groomed brows are a sign of symmetry and order and, therefore, you wont need to cake your face with unnecessary makeup. That means you can go out with a fresh, undone face and still look like you've got it together (they tend to bring out your natural beauty when they're done). Dont neglect your brows, they're often the most powerful but subtle asset your face has.
360726 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:10 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put the fork down
PeasantToTheThird ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:57:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:14:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have better genetics
ArtSchnurple ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:21:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's right, there's literally nothing you can do. Might as well give up, and sit around resenting everyone for not finding you more attractive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was being a smart-ass, sorry if anyone took it personally!
ArtSchnurple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotcha. I just see that kind of sad-sack, fatalistic attitude said unironically a lot, and it's kind of a drag. Life can be better!
KaneGR4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:17:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grow a new face
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have to cut the first one off first. It triggers the growth.
sisyphus99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give up that 80's hairstyle. You listening, step mother?
BeastModular ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EXERCISE. It's 100% in your control to do it or not. Instantly makes you a more attractive desirable human
blp0267 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:29:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a confidence in myself. By being confident in ourselves, we can love ourselves. And it means we can have tender heart to other people as well as to ourselves. I think it is true that when we love ouselves we are kind to other people.
dirtypropdriver ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:38:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have lots of money.
PseudoY ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:38:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This can fix most deficiencies in terms of looks and self presentation. It really is the best answer.
TriffidsBelow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
remove any tents from your surrounding area
kpatable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IS THAT ALREADY A REDDIT MEME? Jeez...
TriffidsBelow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just happy to do my part in instigating a new trend
Pada0613 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:30:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For clarification, more attractive to what? People, monkeys, cops, same sex....what?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:18:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean cut,shave, get haircuts regularly don't wear wrinkled clothes.
CrocanoirZA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:23:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, make sure you have a clean neat appearance. You can still have your own style but make the best of that style. Your fashion choices do say something about you
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:22:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: Be attractive
Step 2: Don't be unattractive
Step 3: .........
Step 4: Profit?
forumdestroyer156 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's always one.
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot the part about collecting underwear.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that profit?
TheNaughtyMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong order.
Step 1: Have money
Step 2: Profit
Step 3: Be attractive
xXBootyLoverXx69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:52 on January 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol okay neckbeard
haikela ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:15:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For men: wear a well-tailored suit every now and then. A suit that fits perfectly really enhances a guy's appearance. Sometimes a woman doesn't notice a guy for years, then sees him in a nice suit, then bam! "Oh, he's actually cute. How come I never noticed that?" Plus, you can actually get away wearing just one or two suits again and again, so it's not that expensive. People won't notice you wear the same suit, just how nice you look.
onetwo3four5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if you change the shirt and tie. Though make sure you're not super overdressed, or you'll just look awkward.
say_or_do ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A well tailored suit is a good first step. You really need three well tailored suits so you can switch jackets and pants and such. A good tailor can help you out with that. He'll style all your jackets and pants to be able to be worn interchangeably which is great for tailored suits. (Your tailor will actually advise you to wear certain shoes with each suit, as well. Over laces, never wings)
Your last and final step is to learn how to wear a suit and act accordingly while wearing it. Learn how to properly collar your tie. Also learn how to decide whether to wear suspenders or a belt, but never both.
Learn the rules of being a gentleman because that's how you should act while wearing a suit. Such as never buttoning the bottom button of the jacket and always undo the jacket buttons when you take a seat(that's also a good interview tip).
One thing you don't actually have to really worry about that will put some flare into your attire is styled socks. You can wear really crazy socks. I'm talking Mario and Luigi socks or flannel patterned socks. The socks don't matter as long as they aren't white and fit your personality.
Tip #1:Stay away from three piece suits until your tailor says your classy ass can handle it.
Tip #2:Always stick to classic suits because they will never be a waste of money. They never go out of style.
HerrXRDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For greater effect, get an S-Class to go with the suit.
TheNaughtyMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, spend money to impress. Got it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No shit. Ask a woman what she spends on average upkeep items.
tL1ght ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:07:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys, buy clothing that fits properly. Baggy pants and shirts are not attractive, neither are overly tight pants or shirts. If you've got a belly, find something slightly looser.
Women, tone it down with the make up. If I can see the fondation powder on your face I will not talk to you for very long. If your eyebrows are painted on, go away. Seriously.
Jackanova3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:53:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a decent haircut.
misandry4lyf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:30:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress to fit your body type and colouring. Finding out your skin tone is helpful- my SO has lovely tan warm skin, he looks great in white, for example, whereas my skin is pale and cold toned, and white is not good on me, cream or off white is better. Also, try to relax in conversations with the gender of people you're attracted to - don't put people on a pedestal. Try to treat them as a person...
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brain doesn't understand, can you tell it for me?
BritsCantSpell ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 17:11:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Coloring
MrCheesyMcSqueezy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:22:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grow a sweet neck beard and always wear a fedora... yeah, that should do it.
jaemann ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:37:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Respect the gender you're interested in. Not the PERSON, the gender. I know gay guys who talk shit about all gay guys "But you're different."
Not attractive.
As a woman, when a guy tells me most women are blank and blank and blank, but I'm different.... I'm done.
Usually when I hear women whine about men, they sound like they think they're victims of dating.
You have to respect the whole gender or you're going to attract exactly what you think is wrong with it.
PseudoY ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just don't talk about other people than the one you're out with. They probably don't care about your misogyny/misandry, best keep a lid on it.
jaemann ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:56:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. This too.
empowereddave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:24:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Call me a criticizer and complainer, but this whole thread is a joke. Don't do a god damn thing but be yourself. Sure there are basic rules of respect, but that applies to everyone that deserves to be respected. If your altering your personality to become more attractive, you are obviously addicted to love and that's a one way ticket to a bad relationship. Maybe once you learn to be comfortable with yourself you will find someone you can see yourself being with, maybe not, but don't let not being hot dog top #1 be a factor for your happiness. Real happiness comes from within man, and once you realize that, all the rest will follow.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. If you are a nervous wreck with no confidence, just be yourself! You'll get laid eventually if you live long enough. It's Moore's law
eatmeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing with the whole "Be yourself" mantra. Some people are stuck being a shitty version of themselves, possibly the result of years of being seen as ugly and general bad luck and shittiness. So the key is not to be yourself, but to be that awesome version of yourself that you were before all that shitty stuff happened to you.
empowereddave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:03 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a shitty person implies you are disrespectful. I am saying once you establish a reasonable way to treat people, don't worry about being anything but yourself. But hey, if you want to be disrespectful and you realize that means you won't have mutual connections with people, go ahead lol. But i think people like that might find themselves fighting a natural desire to have human connection.
empowereddave ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:20:27 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you nervous? I think asking that question will lead you to finding out either that you are disrespectful or you are not and just too concerned about what other people think of you beyond that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think "be your best self" is a better way of putting it. Don't bring all your bad habits and baggage to the table and expect someone to take it all on, then scream "I'M JUST BEING MYSELF" when they don't like it. Figure out your assets and work to them, while working on your flaws as best you can.
Wh0rse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't be ugly.
CiT1ZeNPaiN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me personally, ladies, don't be so hard on your weight. Men love some curves. My wife is always running and working out, I told her she was going to run off her titties...she got mad but I am scared....for the titties.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know she was working out for you though? Maybe she just enjoys keeping fit?
mrnagrom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. Speak for yourself. Some men arent really into curves
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:34:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm a skinny dude. I like skinny girls.
mrpeppr1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah I think this is the minority actually. I would take a fit body and toned ass over some extra chest/butt flab anyday.
TheTrueLordHumungous ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good Hygiene.
dead_rising ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
take a shower
lorenzotadeo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Explain things that you are passionate about by using terms that are easy to understand.
lostonpolk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
General Hygiene. Wash regularly (including the undercarriage), groom yourself well (not over-obsessively), and wear clean, well-maintained clothes.
Be Polite/Considerate. Treat others with respect, and try to listen more than you talk.
Confidence. Not egoism or bravado. Simply be comfortable in you own skin, and humble enough to laugh off your own faults.
Humor. People like people who make them laugh. Be wary of the PC-meter; maybe start with the self-effacing stuff.
CarmenTS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we're talking "superficially attractive"...
For women:
Earrings. Nothing crazy. Small studs of any kind. They enhance your face.
Get your eyebrows done in a way/shape that they enhance your face.
Slough the dead skin off of your lips and moisturize.
Clean & moisturize your skin at night.
Thin, midsize or heavy set, wear clothes that compliment you at any size. Just because you have flaws doesn't mean you have to wear baggy clothes.
For men:
Find a good haircut and hair stylist & stick with it/him or her.
Learn what amount/shape of facial hair is most complimentary to you.
Clip and file your fingernails!!
TAKE BETTER CARE OF YOUR ORAL HYGIENE!!!!
Slough off the dead skin on your lips & moisturize.
Stand up straight and learn better posture!
Find a pair of jeans that FIT. Ask someone for help from a jean store.
Stop wearing those Jerry Seinfeld from the 90s running sneakers. There is a category of sneakers called "fashion athletic" that are comfortable and stylish. Converse is an example.
Undershirts are not suitable to be worn as regular shirts. It shows a lack of effort.
IMPORTANT: Kindness, Confidence, Humility, Self-Assuredness and Humor are so SO crucial. So do what you have to do to yourself on the outside to look attractive to other people from afar, but make sure that once people get up close, they like that person underneath all of that, too.
Oberon_Swanson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the stuff in this thread is about physical appearance or generic 'be confident' stuff, which is true.
But I'll add that you should also try to interact with people on a deeper level. Nobody's gonna be attracted to you if they don't even remember you after talking to you. Make eye contact when you talk to someone, even if you can only manage a little. When they talk to you, listen to them and empathize with them. Learn their name and tell them yours, and remember their name. Don't be afraid to express yourself or relate an interesting, relevant story or fact. Don't be afraid to tell a dirty joke or a groan-inducing pun. Don't be afraid to tell them your opinion on something and why you hold that opinion. Don't be afraid to let them know what you value.
I don't mean talk their ear off, I just mean a lot of people spend their day making forgettable small talk when, with a bit more effort, you can relate to people a lot more. You are much more likely to find someone you are compatible with, and more people are more likely to think they're compatible with you, when you actually get to know some people and let them get to know you instead of just being a weather, sports, and celebrity gossip robot to all but your closest friends. A lot of people are afraid to say the wrong thing and say nothing instead. But think about the people you're attracted to; you might think some of their opinions are wrong, and some of their favourite music and tv shows are terrible, but you like the rest of them so much it doesn't matter. The same will apply to you.
yogiscott ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great way to get friend-zoned with a quickness.
Oberon_Swanson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It will, if you don't actually ask out the people you're attracted to early on. But if you don't even try to connect with people then you won't even get "friend-zoned" you'll get "nothing-zoned."
smillyman1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
draw a pentagram, slaughter a goat and sell your soul to satan
AlphaAgain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Know when you should wear certain things...
Pajamas - Guess when you should wear these? At home, lounging around the house. NEVER outside of the house.
Sweats/Athletic Wear - Guess when you should wear these? At the gym, going for a run, or doing some active. Never out to eat, or anything like that.
Jeans/T-shirt/Non-athletic hoodies - This is the very minimum level of dress acceptable for any social/public adventure. This is casual wear. Anything less is loungewear. You can wear this to the supermarket or to hang around at a friends house. Or for a very casual outing with friends.
Most people don't need any more direction than that...but for some more generalized stuff...
If you're unsure of the dress appropriate for an occasion, always err on the side of over-dressed. Being a half step better dressed than everyone else will make you stand out in a positive way.
IF YOU'RE SKINNY - Do not wear baggy clothes. You look ridiculous and you're not fooling anyone.
If YOU'RE FAT - Do not wear baggy clothes. You look unkempt and you're not fooling anyone.
Kapalka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm skinny and I wear baggy clothes, how exactly am I trying to fool people?
AlphaAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to look "bigger". It's not an uncommon thing.
Kapalka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. I guess I was fooling people into thinking that I was trying to fool them into thinking that I was bigger for the past several years.
AlphaAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, why are you wearing baggy clothes, then?
Kapalka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was anorexic in middle school and I still have a pretty warped body image. So basically I think I look fat even when I'm on the skinnier side of normal.
AlphaAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what does that have to do with baggy clothes?
You're literally agreeing with my very first point. You're trying to hide yourself in the baggy clothes.
Wear clothes that fit and you'll look better, skinny or not.
Kapalka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right you are.
I just didn't know what skinny people were trying to fool people about.
AlphaAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's really guys more than anything.
You'll see it if you keep an eye out. The skinnier the guy, the more comically oversized the clothes.
NikoTesla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He may also have been alluding to that many "skinnier" guys would prefer to be bigger, so they may wear baggier clothing to appear bigger.
This does not usually apply to girls. I know some women don't like being "so skinny", but it's unusual for a girl to wear baggier clothes to try and appear bigger.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People underestimate this. While I've lost a lot of weight, I'm still a big guy. But, with lost weight means wardrobe time. So all my clothes fit well, and I make sure of it. Now I get complements constantly on my style and how I look (before I tried to hide my size with baggy). Before I could go to a bar and have no one talk to me. Now I go to a bar and after a few minutes of talking I'm having to hold up my left hand as a "You're nice and all, but I really don't want to be murdered when I get home tonight".
Own your heft, gents. A large guy who is well dressed will be found as sexy by quite a many women. A large guy who looks like a slob just plays into the stereotype.
thisisthinprivilege ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only men who are fat/big getting fucked by legitimately hot, fit women are those men with money and/or power. It's that simple.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, because there aren't any attractive women that like big men. /s
thisisthinprivilege ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Typically, NO, sloppy they're not. WTF would a fit woman engage with fat man, like you, unless you were paying her bills or she had some sort of fetish. It's a fact, get used to it.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:09 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, get over the fact you don't know everything.
thisisthinprivilege ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:27:38 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure. Right. OK. Lol You're a train wreck.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:19 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This coming from the delusional one.
thisisthinprivilege ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:04:27 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When a fat guy, like you, comments about getting fit/hot women it's comedy gold.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:37 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women love teddy bears.
thisisthinprivilege ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:05:09 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fat women do. They don't have any other better options either.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:24 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, honestly go fuck off. You're not the voice for a very diverse population, and your perception is very different from reality. It's clear you spend too much time watching TV and jerking it to midget porn.
thisisthinprivilege ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:35:35 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your insecurity is amusing. Beauty is an OBJECTIVE standard. If it weren't an objective standard than fat women would be Victoria's Secret models and in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition. The ONLY reason a hot/fit woman would date/fuck a fat man is because of money/power. Period. End of story. Full stop. They have better options and opportunities. Conversely, the ONLY men dating/fucking fat women are those who are fetishists/feeders or those with no other viable options. The "warm port in any storm" guys. I just love your delusion and willful self-deception.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:46 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, you pointed out your own flawed argument here. It's objective. It's not universal.
That's the only part of your post that's correct. The rest of your post is pure schlop, the rantings of someone who is insecure (yeah, you claim I'm insecure, I'm not the one ranting and raving like you are).
So please... fuck off.
thisisthinprivilege ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:52:54 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Lol. You're insecurity and delusion are palpable, cupcake.
GringodelRio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:29 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bwahahahaha. You're stupid as fuck.
thisisthinprivilege ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:55:56 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironic comment is ironic. :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
listeen more talk les
discogeek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your dirty butthole. You may not think people can smell that... they can.
relatablerobot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On this note, if you're the kinda guy (or gal) that poops multiple times a day, having wet wipes is a life saver. It would be great if we could all shower after every shit, but that's obviously not practical. Wipes help you stay clean after every bathroom visit so that you don't smell like a pile of compost in between showers.
bananaterracotta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
better yet: eat enough fiber and drink enough water to have clean wipers. if i need a wet wipe to get clean, i know something has gone horribly wrong.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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bpr2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:29:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why yes, having armpits that smell of vagina is very attractive.
portosb223 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spend less time on reddit
Narwhalbaconguy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:49:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happystepchild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why am I reading these!? I'm married, I don't care
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went from slaying dragons by myself to slaying bitches with 3 simple changes. Got a damn haircut, started working out and walked upright. (Also, joined Marines)
BrennaS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
Barialdalaran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Swallow magnets
emeraldpity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coconut oil each morning instead of creams and other chemical shit. Makes your skin look way better (preventing eczema etc). Also puts a pep in your step just thinking about the coconut.
hairybrains ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree! And olive oil is great, too. Both make my skin look fantastic.
Username004 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash my butt
CJ090 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be white. Source: Am black guy.
Evlwolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have acne, change your pillow case at least every other day. World of difference.
short_storees ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut. People think that because Kurt Cobain looked cool with unkempt hair, they can pull it off too. They can't. Hair like that makes most people look like hobos. Ditto for beards. We can't be as dashing as Zack Galifianakis.
dirkalict ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:34:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you nailed it - we will never be as good looking as Kurt Cobain or Zack Galifinakis so letโs start grooming people.
cobbs_totem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be more tent-like.
anonymous_212 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PoppyOncrack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smother your face in horse cum.
RadioSoulwax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk around with your penis out
laceyxxx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:57:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This may sound cheesy AF. But the most attractive thing about a person is ALWAYS they're personality! (For me anyway) Just be kind, funny, happy and confident! I guarantee you will seem more attractive than the drop dead gorgeous arrogant arse next to you. And i'm not joking either.
xXBootyLoverXx69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:30 on January 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lool try telling that to one of them 500lbs guys that stink of bo and doritos
nomadikcynic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Collar stays
c00lnerd314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Groom yourself.
A good haircut or style can do wonders for your look.
tink9995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have image issues, and one thing that I found that worked is feeling attractive. You have to own it, feel it, know you are an amazing person and it will shine through. I can always tell with pictures when I'm feeling insecure or if I feel good.
BebeGene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work on your intellect.
-teaqueen- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
make sure your eyebrows are aight
TorrentialKiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Comb your hair.
DextroShade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident in yourself. You can really tell from actions if someone is confident.
Don't be afraid to look stupid. If you do something stupid then laugh it off, no one is perfect.
LuckyMeLane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find things to be grateful for, gain confidence and self esteem...know that you are worth it no matter what you physically look like. Physically people will prefer different looks, but who you are to yourself as a person is more attractive. Looks are just instant gratification to people, getting to know someone who loves the self and others and is genuine can be long-lasting attraction. If you just want to turn heads and that 's it, then work out, diet, and wear skimpy clothes.
stormcrown9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
make sure you keep yourself clean & tidy. there's nothing more unattractive than someone who smell bad.
Er_Hast_Mich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get. Your suits. Tailored. Buy off the rack, get it a little bigger then find a seamstress to do alterations. You'll spend a couple dozen bucks but you'll look like you had something made for you. Ill-fitting suits make you look like a child who can't dress themselves.
slinning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just realized i changed a lot around 2 years ago, and now i check out at all the points listed here, and i have gained an extreme amount of female attention over the last year. These are really good tips, though i never really realized i changed like this before now.
bawzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take showers regularly, groom your face (of you keep a beard), get regular haircuts (don't wait 2 months in between), walk with your chin 90 degrees to the ground, and don't wear baggy clothes.
Woodfella ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. Just smile.
Shaylily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is directed to women and clothing. Just because it fits, it does not mean that you should wear it. Tight clothing accentuates the fat and makes you look terrible. One or two sizes up and they would look great. Also, comb your damn hair and stop doing those sloppy buns. For reference, I am a women.
TheNewElite250 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:41:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many women am you?!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean/ well groomed finger nails. Even just clipped finger nails if you work outside or your hands are always a little rough and beaten up.
intergalatichussy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be afraid to pay a little more for a good haircut/colour. A cheap dye job or uneven cut can change your whole look, for the worse.
newbatthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture. Fitted clothes. Clean haircut. Shave off the beard if you can't grow a good one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Breathe through your nose.
Mrninjamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confident speech skills and not broadcasting your problems on others. Instead of complaining to people you meet about how your ex boyfriend was abusive, say "what's up y'all?" Have a conversation, not a rant.
Instead of answering right away, wait 3 "interruptions" before speaking. Works wonders
make_mind_free2go ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
besides good hygiene, invest in a good haircut. clothes don't have to be expensive but should fit properly.
jasonc113 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Elongate your neck when taking a photo, basically stick your chin out. It feels stupid but in the picture it looks better. People with double chins, this makes you look way more photogenic.
samanthais ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothing that are appropriate for your age and body type (and for the occasion, if there is one).
Doesn't matter to me if you're fat, thin, tall, short - if you're wearing clothes that fit you properly you will feel more confident and attractive.
throwaway920218128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise, dress well. And the biggest one for me is to maintain your hair/beard (for guys, but I guess maintaining your hair works for girls too). It makes a huge difference for me to see a guy with a nice haircut.
shraquoia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get your eyebrows waxed or threaded. Some people look really different after they get their brows cleaned up. Don't go overboard though, especially if you're a dude because that look is simply creepy. For an example take a look at the guy in The Mist, the military guy/hero/kid.
lizper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good hygiene, a good haircut and well-fitting clothes.
irrumare_asinum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be afraid to laugh at yourself. Embrace embarrassment. If you don't laugh it off, things will turn awkward and people will remember you for being awkward.
EliasDL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a haircut that fits your face. I have a relatively big head and always let my hair get pretty long, which made my head look even bigger and my face fatter. Also, try to smile more. I have yet to meet someone who looks uglier when (s)he smiles.
YoungandEccentric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise. Take care of your teeth and skin. Wear clothing tailored for your body.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have fun doing whatever it is you do.
polio23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being well groomed. The difference can honestly me startling.
gruyere_and_bacon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never in my life worn makeup and I'm 34. I just recently started doing that and I feel more attractive when I do wear it.
paradoxicalme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take up a new hobby, or focus more on one you already have. I fell in love with my ex partly because I saw how passionate he was about acting, and he'd read me bits out of books in different accents and we went to open mics together...it's very, very attractive when someone is really into something. Now excuse me while I surreptitiously cry into my sushi.
Reallytanwhiteguy33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carry yourself with self-respect and don't be a fake person. Sounds like bullshit, but most folks are attracted to stable and confident people. If anything, you'll learn how to like yourself.
5cilli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut your fingernails. I'm amazed at the amount of people I know (men and women) with lesbian pornstar length nails with enough dirt underneath them to cultivate a couple of rows of winter vegetables. Nasty.
TruthSpeaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut the nasal hair. No one is attracted to three-inch long strands of thick mucus-covered hair sticking out of your nostrils. Take a scissors to it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
take a shower
LetMeStopURightThere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For guys: Get your hair cut regularly and keep it done neatly. Use hair gel if necessary.
The easiest way to look scummy is to have an unkempt mop on your head.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GET RIPPED!!
Podal419 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
who fucking cares anymore
planetnutsack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take pride in your appearance (shower and brush teeth daily, wearing nice clothes that fit goes a long way for improving both your physical appearance and the perception of those around you, SMILE, improve posture while sitting/standing/walking).
joeripz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a decent haircut at a salon or barber. If your out of middle school your mom shouldn't be cutting your hair
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truly smile. People can see if you're really feeling it when you're smiling, and it rubs off on those around you.
4thwiseman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut, trim your nails and brush your teeth. Deodorant isn't optional. Grooming is attractive. Take it to the next step and fix that unibrow, guys.
parabolicuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be interested in the person with whom you're talking. Listen more than you talk, and ask questions about them.
Zanderth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're prone to stupid things just shut up abit and let other people talk do not be too opinionated on the other side if you're quiet speak up. Also try and follow a theme in what you wear smart, skater what ever. Always try to have some smart clothes though people do notice!
pwned2hard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get really good at something. It could be dancing, playing piano, or simply bouncing coins into mugs - few things are more attractive than a demonstration of uncommon skill.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of your teeth... which includes both flossing AND brushing properly and consistently
nickdaisy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your pubes
Parasthesia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fitness, fashion, good diet.
They're simple, they just require dedication and practice. As in put them into practice immediately.
StabbyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lose weight. this one is simple because dropping 2 lbs a month will add up over the course of a year - that's a slightly smaller meal twice a day, or one less soda.
fix your posture. i did this with partner dancing and weight lifting, both of which require good posture to do well.
doanduykhiem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1./Laughter is a lovely thing. 2./Take a moment to become more cultured. 3./Generosity makes for one fine specimen. 4./Walk with confidence and youโll feel foxy. 5./Sticking to Your Convictions. 6./Hey good-looking, do you work out? 7./Put good inside, and get a gorgeous glow. too much .. ? want simple ? girl don't like skinny guys so get some workout everyday and you will get attractive .
GrayFox2510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Proper grooming; take good care of your hair, your face. Heck, just a new haircut style can do wonders.
Clothing; besides having them fit well, a good combination and proper accessories can go a long way. It's not about the brand.
Posture; many have said, don't look down while walking. Be confident, look confident.
gossipbomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit you. Not clothes that fit last year before you gained/lost 30 lbs. Clothes that fit you now. It will make you look so much more put together.
If you hate shopping, suck it up.
KyleCrusoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your ass.
zazoom783 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a mouth breather.
RhythmicInterpreter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your back straight, got to have good posture. Also smile and do not just feel confident, be confident in everything you do. People will take notice to someone who looks like they got their shit together.
frachris87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a better posture. Don't slouch, don't stare at the ground, etc. Keep your back straight, look forward. Shoulders back. You'll look more confident.
Keep your hair tidy. Get a nice haircut. Comb it regularly, and/or use gel/hairspray. Doubly important if you're growing your hair long. If so, consider tying it back.
Shave! A little stubble's okay, but a forest of facial hair ain't always sexy, so take it off. If you're growing a beard, keep the rest of your face clean-shaven while making sure the beard is neatly trimmed.
Dress well, cuz as ZZ TOP put it - "They come runnin' just as fast as they can / 'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man." Leave the tshirts and the shabby jeans/cargo pants for when you're chilling with friends. Start wearing more collared shirts and khakis. Get some dress shirts. Head down to the suit stores, get fitted, and pick up one or two really nice suits. If you still like your jeans, grab some black jeans, or fancier blue jeans.
But most important of all - BATHE! Sure, you might LOOK nice. But if your stink's so bad that no one wants to be close to you... you're fucking up. Shampoo/Conditioner! Soap/Body Wash! Deodorant! Toothpaste/mouthwash! Shower/bathtub! All that stuff isn't in the bathroom for no reason!
TL;DR: Don't look like a slob, dress well, and don't stink.
angry_pecan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't chew your nails.
VanessaSoIll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
Simple, easy, and makes everything around you a little better.
ReturnOfThePing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pluck those nostril hairs. Hurts like a bitch, but it's gotta be done.
BTSD15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. Even if it doesn't show teeth a smile is appreciated and understood no matter language you speak.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a guy: lift, and lift heavy. /r/fitness can help.
If you're a woman: lift, and lift heavy. /r/fitness can help.
You'll be healthier, look better, clothes will fit better and look better. The gift that keeps on giving.
ofcourseimanxious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit you well, whatever your style is. Baggy or to tight doesn't look well.
I'd also suggest you invest in skin and hair care. I don't mean like visiting the stylist all the time, but dry flaky skin or greasy hair if you have the power to change it just makes you look gross. (Folks with skin/hair conditions not included, you'll have you're own care methods).
doublex20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile a lot! Use cologne, a person who smells good is x10 attractive. Use nice, stylish clothes that fit your shape. Get a flattering haircut. Good hygiene (that should go without saying).
Hunny_Bunny20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fix your hair!
Even if that means having to throw a little gel in, a beanie on, throw it in a ponytail or bun. Just don't leave the house like you woke up and left.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean. Good breath and teeth too, no point showering a lot if you don't look after those too.. Dress well. Smile a lot. Be open minded and not stubborn.
Even an ugly guy (Like me) can do these things, and they really help a lot...
kch-n-scarlet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be mindful of how much makeup you wear! The goal of makeup is not to create a mask but to enhance natural beauty! And make sure your makeup actually matches your skin and tone...there should be no line where your makeup stops under your chin...and it doesn't help to just extend your makeup down your neck...it will just make you look old and weird (unless you are a supermodel who has the advantage of being airbrushed). And if you still don't know what to do...promptly visit a Bare Minerals boutique...that stuff is amazing!
TortoisePorpoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take improv comedy classes to be a better conversationalist. I'm serious. It basically teaches you to deal with tension, weird scenarios, and silence. And it also teaches you to open up and adequately explore topics in an interesting way. Going into a date, you have no idea what you're going to talk about (usually... unless you're an alien studying humans), which makes you nervous and anxious and uppity or w/e. Improv helps you REACT to what's being said in the moment, whether that's an emotional or intellectual response. When you react (hopefully genuinely) you seem more engaging and interested, and honestly, just taking a topic to some sort of limit/conclusion usually results in a shared laugh or idea AKA a connection. 1) study improv 2) talk gooder 3) ... 4) Profit
MyShitlordLife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. It's really not hard, you'll look better, and you'll feel better. If you feel better, your confidence will go up, and guess what else goes up with confidence? Attraction. It's really a double whammy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth.
ZackMorris78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For guys, before I started doing this I would maybe get a oh you got a haircut etc comment every now and then, but next time you get your haircut ask your barber to just trim down your eyebrows a little bit. It's very subtle and I'll be damned since doing this people are more perceptive and are like oh you got a haircut etc.
mydogismax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pluck your brows!
Themimose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting my eyebrows done, wearing anything in my favorite color and put on goodbye horses by q lazzurus and tell myself in the mirror " I'd fuck me" before going out
RudegarWithFunnyHat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dont have bad gramma or typos or bad spelling on the Internet.
seasond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trolling hard
CXPR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this may not apply but i make sure my hairline is perfectly straight, i also like to have my eyebrows shaped up(not arched). may seem a little feminine but it creates a higher degree of facial symmetry.
largehoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a good job, have a decent car, don't be fat. Especially the first one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell yourself that you're attractive. Both girls and guys do this thing where they feel sorry for themselves for an endless amount of reasons. That's really unattractive. Nobody likes listening to it and it's really takes from your swag or your demeanor or whatever you like to call it.
long-shots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get off reddit and get more active.
Brainous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having a good posture makes you look much more attractive.
Rein_of_Liberty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simply take care of yourself. If you do all the things you ought to do to be healthy and give yourself a chance at happiness, you'll carry yourself in a way that is subtly and naturally attractive.
full_ofbeans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a skateboarder. Its hard to retrain yourself not to look at the ground. Even when not skating. Its there you find something to find to... Jump over. Haha.
spooner248 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Change your hair once in a while. I didn't realize the difference that made until after I changed the hairstyle I had had for three years and my appearance seemed much more mature and people even came up to me to acknowledge it!
qvwzxsiwpz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have interesting things to talk about.
sheyLboogie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more
SuperTate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go get a haircut right now
tdotbay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress nice, buy good clothes
Kitakitakita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
clean your skin
FreeEdgar_2013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. Not a shit eating grin all the time but a slight smile works wonders.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get yok3d m8. But give it time.
humansandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you bite your nails? Stop biting your nails. People notice.
Do your clothes match? If you don't know, ask someone. Clashing clothes look bad, regardless of how expensive and high quality they are.
Your clothes should be fitted to your body type. If you're slim, the clothes should show that. However, if you're large, your stomach should not be hanging out of your shirt. Button downs might be tricky. Look at sweaters and quarter zips. In the right patterns, they might conceal some areas you might be self conscious about.
If you're a girl, learn to apply makeup properly if you're going to wear it. Badly applied makeup makes you look like the corner prostitute. If you don't wear makeup, maybe consider it. I think of it like a cheat code for my face and I'm sure as shit gonna take that opportunity.
Accessorize. Whether you're male or female, accessories add a little something to your ensemble that just shows that you're well put together.
Smell good. Don't shower in perfume/cologne. If people can smell you five feet away, you're doing something wrong.
Wash your face. Regularly. I'm not stupid enough to think that all acne can be solved by washing your face a few extra times, but I can say for sure that some people don't wash their face enough, and that using a soap specially made for your face makes a huge difference.
Moisturize. Lotion up after your shower every day. You'll feel like a soft little angel after a while. Moisturizer for your face is needed, don't try to use regular lotion on your face, you will regret it.
I'm sure there's more, but if you start with these things, you're on the right track. Add in some exercise and you're golden.
snek0kidFTW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything here everyone already knows
nightwing2024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't eat Oreos by the row
brokesmoke843 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I call it "doing a line" much like cocaine.. same neurological effect
ICanJuggleThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture. Head up, shoulders back, stand tall. It will make you look more attractive and confident.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more. So many people have a beautiful smile and you would never know because they're always scowling.
Zyrokya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exfoliate your face and don't pick at your face! If you have acne try not to pick it. ESPECIALLY DONT PICK INGROWN HAIRS IF THEY ARE DEEP, you will end up regretting the act of picking once you realize that all the blood and the new scab you made looks worse.
Gisbeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cover my face
sonictea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyebrows are so important. At LEAST get them groomed. That's seriously all I ask of a person, they can make or break your face.
aliastori ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
by take a bath daily :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Lots of not so simple things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By not being so shy when I meet new people and showing a little bit of attention to the person speaking to me.
idontreadfineprint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do push ups every morning after you wake up and every night before you go to sleep. If you don't exercise at all you will see a change in your physique in 2 weeks.
FatPinch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SMILE.
IamSmarterThanSagan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand next to OP's mom.
andrewsmd87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be in shape. You don't have to be super ripped or a body builder or anything, but just being generally healthy, as in not overweight and working out regularly. For two reasons, aesthetic purposes, and working out regularly will generally put you in a better mood over all.
Thrashpastorwife723 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys - shave the neck beard. It's gross. Nothing against facial hair though - my husband has had a beard during our entire marriage.
DeliveredByOP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For men? You could:
-Work out
-Groom your head-hair (shave it off if you've got a bad receding hairline)
-Consider growing (or shaving/grooming) facial hair; 5 o'clock shadow can be a nice touch
-Wear nice smelling cologne (but not too much!! Just a dash)
-Go to a spa and get a skin treatment
-Cut and groom your finger and toenails. A surprising amount of women look at men's hands and nails to judge their attractiveness.
Hope this helps!
bob493 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets see... of the things you physically have control over... remember, most of this is subjective, and Im mostly using generalities.
1) Don't dress like a slob. Yes taste is subjective, but it's not gonna kill you to get some nice clothes. No you dont need to spend a billion dollars, you can get "off brand" nicer clothes. The only "expensive" clothes you should buy are shoes... because that saves you money in the long run. 2) posture was mentioned a lot, but dont go around "strutting" like a peacock either. Theres a fine line between "confident" and "douchebag". 3) lose weight if youre chubby, or gain muscle if youre scrawny. This is a 3 hour topic on its own, so I'll leave you to it. A scrawny dude with "abs" is about the same as a fat chick with big boobs, imo. 4) Do your f-ing hair nicely. My god, the sheer amount of people I see with tumbleweeds in their hair is astonishing. Its not a "good look" for anyone. 5) cleanliness/smell. Aka brush your teeth and find some decent cologne you like. Dont wear the same clothes for 3 days in a row, and it helps to look like you showered lol.
wip30ut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you're a guy with imperfect skin or over 30 and showing the signs of aging, try BB cream. It's like a concealer, but isn't heavy like women's foundation.
secondly, get your button-up shirts tailored by a seamstress. Instead of having shirts hang off your frame like they're 2 sizes too big or markdowns from TJ Max they'll look like custom-fitted shirts. It makes you look sharper.
strengthof10interns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Body language is huge. If you are sitting with both feet on the ground, don't point your toes together.
missionbeach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
sureshotsk25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
End it all!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Just kidding. Maybe look people in the eye, present yourself with confidence, acknowledge and laugh off your flaws, ask people about themselves and be kind and thoughtful.
Sometimes, being attractive isn't just about physical appearance. I landed a beautiful wife just by being kindhearted and making her laugh.
texasrudeboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have always gone with be clean and well groomed and have nice fitting clothes and good shoes and above all smile and look people in the eyes. Who doesn't find those characteristics attractive? No one goes around saying they are attracted to dirty unkempt people in ugly bad fitting clothes who frown all day.
vegeta10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but unfortunately, everywhere you look; some beautiful girl is with a loser exactly as you described. It's shocking.
Matt2486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Honestly, dress like you give a damn. Just notice trends. There are so many classic style options that are timeless. Well fitting jeans, a nice fitted knit sweater, a peacoat, and some nice boots or tennis shoes (check out topshop) look great together. Buy some fiber from Crew for you hair. Get a bottle of Armani Code and spray it twice, but no more, once you have your clothes all on. You will look better, smell better, and feel better. You will be more confident and, as a byproduct of this confidence, you will be more productive in life in general. Also, start every day with a shower. Seems like this should go without saying, but I'm starting to think it needs to be said.
mecrosis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit and match. Yes even tshirts have a "fit".
Tidy your hair.
Trim and clean your nails.
Be hygienic. Don't be unhygienic.
Stand up straight.
Smile.
Fish_oil_burp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Show genuine interest in other people.
lady_speedstick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fill in thine eyebrows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be fat
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, you're a virgin who's trying to get some ass?
firebird50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
take a bath
saltystef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your clothes! Do your damn laundry! I used to work with a guy who smelled like when you itch your scalp when your hair is greasy and then sniff your hands. I could smell his scalp smell from across the room.
deegsboy24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has turned into a discussion of the natures of our walks, the patterns of our walks, and crazy mishaps as a result of our walking styles Xdxd
barefoot_yank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One simple thing. Self confidence. There is nothing more attractive than someone that exudes self confidence. Not arrogance, confidence. Folks on here have asked, "How can I ask someone out that out of my league?" The first way is to quit thinking that they're out your league. CONFIDENCE.
battmrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spend $15 more and get a haircut at an actual barber shop.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut that fits your head shape and cleans up your look. Lots of resources out there to do this. Just search face shapesand then hair styles. Theres sources on reddit too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress nicely, have confidence (and if you don't, fake it til you make it), talk to people without having the intent of hooking up with them. As a guy, you'll have a lot wider of a variety of partners to pick from if just engage them in a conversation, rather then blatantly hitting on them.
FerrousFellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be genuinely interested in learning about other people before talking about yourself.
Old_Grau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(Men) Get a 50 dollar hair cut with a massage and a beer. Serious. It will change your life. Also, buy designer well fitting jeans at a second hand place. Don't be afraid to embarrass yourself by asking for help as this small moment will change your life.
Herp_Tee_Derp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
First off ditch those pajama pants, they're not appropriate attire for being in public. Next bath regularly and use deodorant, why you wouldn't already be doing this is beyond me but it's a common problem. Finally wear clean cloths that aren't greasy to the touch and be nice, that snarky attitude just makes you look like a cunt. Hope that helps Op.
padvondo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile.
uvaspina1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get some stylish clothes.
HallandStoats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be happy. If you aren't happy act like you are.
keymaster999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys, iron you damn shirts. It's super easy and you look less homeless.
supajamz54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Comb your goddamn hair
KryptonicLegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do like 10 push-ups every other night. It doesn't seem like much but over time it will make a difference.
gnarbone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyebrows. Clean those fuckers up. Male or female, they frame your face and really make a difference if they are all shaped up.
GCFunc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a quickfire list off the top of my head at 6 in the morning after a long night of work.
The easy with practice:
Simple in planning, but ambitious to follow:
Only for the most committed
pointynipples69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Push ups and Pull ups. A simple regimen everyday will better your posture, help your chest, back, shoulders, and forearms all start to look better, and give you confidence.
r0cx89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Completly agree this will do wonders for you're health and self-esteem the amount of people who just shit and do nothing it saddens me.
hstueckler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn how to accept a compliment. If someone says something nice about you, just say thank you and smile appreciatively.
Never respond to a compliment by pointing out your flaws. As in
"Your hair looks nice. "
"Oh, I don't know. I can't ever seen to get it to look right..."
klevenisms204 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile..
and if you dont have one, i believe they are on the menu at mcdonalds (or they were).. free of charge
fungokiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tweezers for unwanted hair, especially on the brow and nose.
McWeaksauce91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im going to describe this as modestly and humbly as possible, but ive done just a few minor tweak and peaks to myself and ive had significantly positive results
(1) Personal care...First and foremost not the gym(well yes but not what im getting at).
(A) Styling your hair, and taking care of it. Use shampoo and conditioner, find a haircut that suits your face and personality, if you have facial hair make sure it looks good AND IT SUITS YOU. Some people just cant do the beard. Also get some nice cloths, if you don't have a sense of style like myself then I bet a friend or coworker does. You always want to over dress then under
(B) Fitness- You do not need to be a gym rat. Eat semi right, drink semi less, go for a run and gym 3 times a week. You don't need to be the hulk but women like men who take care of themselves
(C)Knowledge- Read, write, explore. No one likes an idiot. Develop some hobbies make yourself interesting. You cant expect people to want you if you don't want you.
(D)Confidence- This will be the hardest one. Some people are born with natural confidence others(like myself) have worked very very hard in order to build it.
A quick background about me, I grew up a socially awkward, obese kid with little to no friends from a broken home. It took me a long time to get where I am now. I was lucky enough, once I dropped all my weight and got in shape, I was an average looking male. But ive recently started doing the above and had a noticeably more successful time dating and receiving more compliments It seems like a lot but a lot of these things have subreddits and helpful tips.
Breakfast_Sausage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
boredatwork813 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
bobonthenet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Close your mouth.
bmagzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
Euan_whos_army ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surely follow rule 2 is the only advice needed here.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lose weight
Noninex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get yourself some nice, comfortable shoes. They don't even have to be dress shoes or anything like that. Even Vans will work. You'd be amazed at how many compliments burgundy vans will snag you. Girls notice shoes for some reason, and I'd definitely rather them notice clean, well kept shoes than dirty, worn sneakers.
Shredded_Cunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat right 80-90% if the time.
Lift weights and do cardio 3-6 times a week.
Dress to your body shape... Tailoring a shirt is cheap.
Trim your beard if you have one. Keep up with being clean shaven if not.
Use a facial wash. Wash your hair regularly and have it styled when out.
SaturdaySausage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're going to text someone, learn your language. Itz n0t ok t0 rite lik diz
ChestBras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start going to the gym.
Going to the gym is not hard. You go there, you pick stuff up, you put it down. Walk a little on treadmill. Treat it like a playground rather than a gym.
From there, read a little bit about gym, or pay a coach.
Gymming is simple.
Bubbyblast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of agree with this, people make it out to be so hard...
ChestBras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because lots of people try to start out, while comparing themselves to Arnold, or "a end result" they want.
They don't realize that what you do at first, and what you do when you get more experienced are two completly different things.
Trying to start working out, with a 2 week split, HIIT, is not how you start out.
Starting out is "read about calories and go play outside".
Bubbyblast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Recently I have stopped going to the gym because I realized it was a crutch. You know, for me to have that one large soda, for me to eat that greasy burger,just because it's "gym day." Now I just do a small simple regimen at home and avoid most fats and sugars, leading to me being more attentative to my hygiene and keeping that up to par as well.
MZ603 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Cool_Calm_Collected ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence.
Aaroneouslee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men: Be kind, honorable and maintain discipline.
Women: Care less about outward appearance.
helpful_hank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Very late here, but here we go:
I spent years of my life working on this.
For the short term:
My ex-girlfriend is one of the wisest young women I know, and she came up with some of the best advice I've ever heard for men who are struggling with this, and I'm excited to share it with you.
You need to communicate only two things:
1) She is safe with you.
2) You are interested in being more than friends.
"Nice guys" communicate 1, but not 2. "Creepy guys" communicate 2, but not 1. Neither gets laid. Communicate those two things successfully, and you'll be way ahead.
For the long term:
1) Learn to meditate. To whatever degree you blame yourself, turn it into responsibility -- it may be your fault, but you can do something about it. I've literally been on this exact journey, and meditation was a huge help. If you've already done some research on 'how to be attractive' and whatnot online, and you're having trouble making progress with that stuff, meditation may be the key.
2) Focus on improving yourself and doing the stuff you want to do. Trying to attract women is like trying to fall asleep -- the harder you try, the more impossible it is. You have to just do stuff that makes you tired/do stuff that makes you attractive. The good news is, if you already have stuff you want to do, you can just do it! This is NOT "giving up"; it's "building the ship."
You have to build your own "ship of happiness" to invite women aboard; you can't ask a woman to be your ship.
2A) Focus on making good male friends and establishing bonds of respect with fellow men. Earn the respect of men, and you'll get the respect of women. There's bound to be some area of your life where you're passionate or skilled or smart enough to organize something, to try to make some vision come true through a collective effort. (This must piggyback on #2, you can't lead men 'because it will attract women.' You have to actually want the thing to happen.)
A lot of people in this thread are suggesting other short-term things, like focusing on your strong physical traits. This is useful to an extent, but be careful.
It can be a lot harder and require a lot more courage to let short-term stuff go, but work on the long-term principles, and the short-term specifics will fall into place. Trying to engineer the long term by tampering with the short term will likely result in tangling yourself up in self-consciousness. The "how's my hair" rabbit hole is infinitely deep.
Being in this situation turned out to be the greatest gift I ever got -- so few people know what I know, having been through that, and I have skills and sensitivity that most people never need to develop. You will too on the other side of this.
FeartheLOB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink alcohol less frequently.
*This is hard for some people, including myself.
drenp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be less of a dick to people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your face.
koolaidistheshit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence.
That is one anyone can accomplish. When you start feeling good about youself and arent a douche about it, people tend to want to be around you more. Doing most of these things outlined in other comments will build confidence also.
No one outside of highschool wants to be around the guy staring at the ground who cant make eye contact and constantly bashes themselves.
Shopgirl_Mirabelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SMILE!!!!!!!!! Everyone looks more attractive and approachable with a smile on their face. It makes you feel better and smiling at a stranger always makes their day. It's contagious!!! :)
only_sez_mudkip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mudkip
RoadRyeda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meth.
SpxUmadBroYolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: don't be ugly
Step 2: don't be fat
Step 3: if you have alot of money disregard step 1 and 2.
Step 4: if you are the kind of person with step 3 buy scuba gear so you don't drown in the pussy.
BeerPowered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugly, fat and no money. Well, at least I have booze.
Jacob6493 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower no less than every other day.
sammycate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more!
doodoomunkies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile more. Seem busy Seem interested
adrian_elliot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Push-ups
g_squidman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was kind.of hoping to see some makeup tips for men
anticerber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture, hygiene, confidence, nice clothes, not saying anything fancy or the sort, just form fitting.
Maraval ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth. Two or three times a day, certainly after meals and before bedtime. Floss. Get routine dental checkups and cleanings. You may not have a smile like a supermodel, but neither do you want your mouth to look and smell like a pit of horror in the middle of your face.
retrodanny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Focus your attention on getting enough sleep every day for a month.
Emerlees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sound conceded, but I believe that fashion plays a huge role not only on how others perceive you but also how you perceive yourself. I always feel more confident when I dress nicely and in a fashionable way.
alex_the_bolshevik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
beyeukr2004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For guys: get a good haircut. If you don't know what you're doing and haven't had a haircut/trim for a few months, you're doing it wrong. It might be cliche, but yes, long top short sides works for almost every guy. It's one of the only thing you can do to actually improve how your face look.
InternetConquistador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be interesting! What I mean by that is, be interested in others and in return, they will be more interested in you. Of course it never hurts to be natively interesting, but you have to start somewhere.
deepcoma619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to a nice barbershop. Get a styled haircut. Hair can really make a difference.
bobojoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Money
esoteric_enigma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give a damn about your clothing. Stores have big clearance sales several times a year where you can build up a wardrobe for very cheap. So price really isn't an excuse.
Take time to put together things that look good and iron that shit. Wear clothing that fits you. You can be wearing the finest clothing in the land, but if they are hanging off your body poorly and wrinkled, they will look like shit. This is the image you are presenting to the world, take some pride in it and put some effort into it.
I know some people really hate the process of shopping but it's important. The fact of the matter is, your clothing do say something about you. It is your first impression to the people you meet before a word ever comes out of your mouth. I have been offered several jobs from people in informal settings like bars because the person complimented my attire, the conversation we had showed me to be competent, and they then mentioned their place of business was hiring. Just like people who speak well, people who dress well are thought of as more capable by others. That first moment to impress a person is one you will never get back, so why start every interaction you have with other people at a deficit you must now overcome, instead of at an advantage that boosts you up higher?
IceStar3030 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower, get a haircut.
angrynewyawka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For guys:
Make female friends and go out with them. Don't ruin it by catching feelings for these women though, DON'T. Go out with them to clubs, bars, parties and get togethers. This will increase your perceived value and women will flock to you. It's insane how much easier the game got once I made a few female friends and started going out to chill with them.
DaneMac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gym 3 times a week will do that for you.
zuephoowi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
improve your posture
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's one so easy and basic that it appears to be forgotten. 90% can do it right now and many many don't.
Seriously.
Drink more water.
pretends2bhuman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get my wife intoxicated.
Exodus111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout for 30 minutes. It moves blood to your muscles making them look nice and swole for at least an hour or two afterwards.
Lots of beaches have various dip and pullup-bars next to them, this is no coincidence.
ssntf7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop looking at your damn phone all the time.
Blueberry314E-2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spend some decent money on a haircut. This is your body we are talking about. A $10 haircut is going to look like a $10 haircut. If you really can't afford to go to a proper barber/salon find a friend or a friend of a friend who works at one and ask them if they can cut your hair outside of work. They'll usually be happy to because they make more money even though you're spending less.
Mccmangus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear a button up shirt and a tie. Works wonders for me.
zehflash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygiene....shower daily, put some stuff in your hair and buy some expensive cologne / perfume that you like. It takes me a half hour to get ready in the morning and i get plenty of compliments on my looks / smell and it honestly doesn't cost me much time or money.
wreck3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dont be a dick. And dont wear flat billed caps
NightHawk521 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go into a dark room and leave the lights off.
TrullTull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard giving people ghb will make you appear more attractive, but I haven't had a chance to test this theory...
Elviti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be passionate. A lot of people have said hobbies and I completely agree, but also if you're on a topic of conversation you know or are interested in, be passionate. Makes for far better and longer lasting conversations I've found. If someone is passionate about a topic I have zero interest in, I will very happily have a long conversation because of the vibes they give off.
Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The easiest answer is if you are overweight lose some weight. We are not beautiful and healthy at every weight. I'm not saying be a stick figure. I'm saying most people could lose 10-20 pounds and it would only take 3-6 months tops. You'll have more energy, be happier naked and generally perform better in bed.
My second simple tip is get some sun, go outside and do stuff. Outside hobbies are often attractive hobbies because they have you out in the world instead of hiding from it. I like to take day hikes, powerlift, sperg online and play video games. I'd talk more about the first two. Also going outside helps with weight loss.
Be clean and look like you pay attention to your grooming. Have a beard? That's cool trim your neck and cheeks. Trim it down, unless you're built like a lumberjack a huge beard is silly. Bathe daily, try a gentle exfoliant on your face once in a while. Keep them nails pretty.
falsealarmm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise and wear clothes that fit properly.
Drink-Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
TrullTull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legit though try that coconut oil swishing shit, I thought it was by but gave it a shot, teeth got brighter, and breath was fresh all day long after a couple days.
Drink-Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
evs212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop drinking
raosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Criticize others, be mean to those weaker than you, brag constantly and ruthlessly deny anyone other than you a moment in the spot light at all times for the rest of your life.
Okay, all joking aside, see how far you can get by just being comfortable in your skin. And clean up and take care of your body, with the minimum being good healthy hygiene and up to and including regular exercise. Even if it's simple body weight exercises in your bedroom with cheap and/or improvised (but safe!) equipment.
quinnjlphillips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To the men out there, respect women. Treat and see them as equals. Women are people, not machines where you press the right button and sex comes out. Get to know them personally, not all women are the same (and don't read askmen or other bs like that). My life has become immensely better since I started respecting women.
HoratioMG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay off your computer, keep clean shaven, ask questions in conversation, breathe slower, talk slower, walk confidently, keep eye contact, stay positive, smoke weed when no one's looking, smile more, wash your face, keep a tidy-ish hair cut. All will make you much more attractive.
backslash21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From most of the r/uglyduckling posts I've seen, I'd say a good haircut, weight loss, and nice clothes. Confidence also helps
SirSpankalott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get some new shoes or wash them at least. They don't even have to be expensive but shoes make a huge difference.
squidgun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look after your teeth properly. Floss and brush twice a day.
mattdan79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always find women doing cardio much more attractive. Maybe it's an instinctual thing.
ScriptLoL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit properly. They're more comfortable anyway.
Adam_kav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Resist touching your face especially when talking with someone.
If you have a beard, don't play with it.
Not-a-ostrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know that I'm late but one thing that no one has said is to look for your nervous ticks (like cracking your knuckles, fidgeting with your hair, messing with your clothes, checking your phone, etc...) And stop doing them. It's so much more attractive and you seem confident.
ajstraw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. If I see someone walking down the street looking unhappy and not making eye contact with anyone I immediately get put off. If I see someone smiling and making eye contact with me or other random strangers I automatically am more drawn to them, and more likely to engage with them.
xboxg4mer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. Even when you have no reason you should smile, really mean it though it makes you more open and friendly. Also practice good posture and try and be confident. I started doing all of this around August and I feel great and have some cool new friends.
Tall_LA_Bull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lift Weights. 3x a week, 45 minutes per session, start with very light weight, slowly but consistently increase weight. Even if you do nothing to change your diet, your body will look and feel a lot better.
ThanklessTask ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turn the lights off.
TheStork74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For guys. A nice fitting pair of jeans. A nice pair is worth the money and will last a long time.
barbecueholmes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Red leather trousers
TheChiefRedditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. But not constantly...cuz then everybody will just think youre mental.
brereddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just watch the movie Rushmore and try to incorporate some of the independence of interest displayed by the main character, Max. Just get involved with something, show some passion and give an air that its possibly the most important thing anyone can be doing--without arguing for it.
thebeijaflor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Massage your face a bit every morning with a little avocado oil or moisturizer (or nothing if you want). It stimulates your cells giving your face an awake and healthy look.
Also drink lots of water when you wake up.
GoHiroki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sunscreen. Your 40 year old self will thank you. Also, melanoma sucks and chemo is a great way to ruin the appearance.
skimpyzulu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best way to bring your shoulders back and give you better posture is by doing back and shoulder workouts like rows, if you only focus on chest workouts, the stronger chest muscles will pull your shoulders forward. Also for lower back pain and also to improve posture abs are critical, stronger and will pull your core together and straighten out your back reducing back pain while improving posture. Neither of these will be immediate but will happen over several weeks
barefootBam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_dFRnmdGs
VeryBigTree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
moisturise
Bottled_Cat_Farts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit smoking. Speak deliberately. Don't say "umm" when taking a pause in between speaking.
TheDreamr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't blink very often.
Jay794 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower and wear aftershave
queershoulder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part your hair in a different way.
ky_ginger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your hands clean and your fingernails neat, clean, and trimmed appropriately. Nothing grosser than hands with hangnails all over the place, dirt under the fingernails, uneven/jagged nails - it's gross and distracting.
This doesn't mean you have to have a regular manicure - just wash your hands regularly, use a toothpick or something else to get anything stuck under your fingernails out, and use hand lotion. That's all. Not difficult and not expensive.
I can think someone is pretty attractive and be interested in talking to them more - but then if I look down and see that he has gross hands, ew. Dealbreaker.
DuoThree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get glasses that fit your face.
milkybarbah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen. And show interest in what is being said. People love to feel like what they're saying is interesting, and you might learn something new. I've been amazed at how much this works in any situation.
Physically speaking though: (for men)
Be clean but be careful not to look overly manicured. I personally dislike when a guy looks like he took longer to get ready than I did. (That may sound/be sexist, but hey).
Be/look relaxed. Or pretend to be relaxed. Though I'm not sure how simple that is (not easy for me but I try).
Also, smelling good is important.
TheVoiceOfRiesen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maintain healthy weight.
Wear clothes that fit.
fuggahmo_mofuhgga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Want your stomach to look flatter? Work on your chest. Want your waist to look slimmer? Work on your wings and shoulders.
ofnovalue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean your teeth and smile, smile, smile
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
muadib42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bathe, you filthy unwashed masses!
MsNewBeauty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Stop saying "um" and "uh". Take a pause in your sentence if you must, but don't fill it up with stupid.
superfreak343 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do that alot.. always losing my train of thought
ilovetitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scrub yo taint.
If it's really smelly down there after a day/night at work, it needs a really good scrubbing. Taint, crotch, everything. Get a good washcloth with a bit of soap and just bare down and reef on the scrubbing. Basically sanding off a layer of grossness.
Ladd_Pearson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a dude getting older, getting a somewhat stylish haircut can make a big difference. I recently got a decent fade with a razor cut part and a beard trim that matched up. I also make sure to keep the beard moisturized and combed. The wife was very pleased and it feels nice when that whole deal looks sharp.
TheSortOfGrimReaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less, run more.
raszio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100 pushups 100 situps
everyday. break it up in 5, 6 or 7 repetitions if you have to.
HiramAbifff357 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut your head off
Miles_Behind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As is said in this thread already: confidence is key.
A trick to feigning confidence is a simple body language trick. Use your arms to take up more "territory", like putting your arm on the empty chair next to you for example. Dont overdo it, though.
Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight, groom yourself regularly, wear better fitting clothes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whiten your teeth. Don't go buy the expensive box kits that promise results in a few hours. Get the cheap off brand that you put on for 30 minutes for 5-7 days. You might not think it's noticeable when your done but other people will.
apc0243 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile and project self confidence. I find girls that self deprecate insanely unattractive. I don't care what you think about yourself when you stare in the mirror, telling me about your flaws doesn't make you "cute," it comes off as needy and narcissistic.
You're talking to someone else, and all you can think to talk about is yourself? Jesus christ, get a fuckin hobby or something.
raxtich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clean, properly fitting clothes. Don't slouch. Speak clearly and confidently (but not arrogantly). Brush your damn teeth. Learn how to tell a story. Learn how to laugh at yourself.
crybaby002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress better, it looks terrible ig you have 8 inches of air hanging out in your shirt
radiantvalkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of yourself I'm not saying go full makeup daily. I'm saying take a bath, trim your nails, wear deodorant, keep your hair neat, brushed and washed. Just have a tidy appearance in general and smell like you haven't had a bath since last spring.
raszio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile when you greet people. It's free and makes everone's lives more enjoyable.
dharris0885 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personal hygiene, keep yourself groomed, work on your self esteem and become more confident
Forky7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't lie.
Smubii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel the need to socially 1 up someone. If someone tells a story of an accomplishment, just be congratulative. You'll come off as a douche so fast.
fuccimama79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make eye contact, and keep it on people while you speak to them.
phrozen_one ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout a few times a week for 30+ minutes. Do some cardio and lift some weights (or bodyweight) like squats, bench press, deadlift, and dips. Best investment you can ever make.
MonikerGood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn how to be comedic. There isn't a person in the world that doesn't like to laugh. In fact, in most polls asked to women about what the most important qualities in a man are to them, the ability to make them laugh is generally in the top 3. And also, make sure you smile and laugh a lot as well. It shows that you're not an uptight prick and that you like to have a good time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pay attention to your appearance and groom yourself accordongly. Shower, brush your teeth, if you have facial hair that doesn't look good on you, shave it off or trim it until it looks better. Find a cologne that isn't too powerful and blends well with your personal pheremones, you need to spray a bit on your skin and wait about ten or more minutes before you decide whether or not to buy. Use deodorant.
Dress yourself in a more attractive manner. If you don't pay attention to how you dress, start. If money is an issue for buying nicer clothes, go to a local thrift store, you can often find very nice clothing that is now very affordable.
Work out. Even if you don't get shredded you will feel better about yourself, and confidence is attractive.
Ask your most honest friend what they think you could do to make yourself more attractive to other people; sometimes other people notice things about us that we don't notice about ourselves.
Talk a little proper. People pay attention to how we talk, sometimes cussing less and using less slang goes a long way in changing perception.
It boils down to: Dress better, smell better, talk better, better yourself physically, and get an honest opinion.
7j67j6767j67j67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are wealthy, just pay an attractive professional actor to be your permanent stand in.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lift, eat right, have lots of money, an extensive social circle, be confident, etc.
glenngut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Smile. Not randomly or constantly. But those moments when you look around and make eye contact with people, smile. EDIT: Also, just be aware of what your face is doing in general.
Itchyusername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deeper voice no1
velojeff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mahnfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grow a beard
lousy_beatnik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of your feet. If you take your socks off to reveal sharp, jagged toenails and toe jam, that is an instant turn-off.
NPVT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are not going to be attractive to all people. But I like several things, including having a sense of humor and being happy. People don't like depressing or unhappy people. Having a lot of money makes you more attractive to certain types of people.
Pickle_ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand next to people who are uglier than you. Get a really ugly friend?
I'll be your friend.
likeafuckingninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress properly. This includes. Dress for the body you have, not the one you want/think you have. and dress the impress and dress for the job you want etc etc
You're not unattractive because you're fat, you're unattractive because you're trying to squeeze into clothes 2 sizes to small. Learn what your attributes are and dress those up, while camoing the bits of you you're less happy about (large thighs? don't squeeze into short shorts. Big butt/hips wear flare dresses that cinch at the waist and then flow over the butt area. flat chested? push up bra, or enjoy the freedom that comes with less boob and wear a plunge neckline. Big boobs? make sure you're not busting out the top/dress, this might mean a large size. Blokes buy the right size, don't be afraid of fitted shirts just because you carry a little extra, the worst thing you can do it 'hide' inside a giant ass t shirt)
Sometimes in life dressing comfy is more important, no one is saying you should go hiking in a fancy dress and heels, but if you're going somewhere you wanna look and feel attractive, dress like the kind of person you want to be, even if you think your not it. You want your boss to consider you for promotion? dress like a manager, skirt/blouse nice dress, suit etc
Want to attract a classy dude, don't dress trashy. The more you do it, the more it becomes second nature, and before you realise your comfy clothes WILL be a nice dress, or skirt/blouse etc Jeans will be something you throw on when you're around the house or popping to the shops and even then they're paired with a nice top and boots.
And actually once people start noticing and complimenting you on your clothes it's a massive boost to your confidence and that in turns makes you happier to take a few more chances with clothing, and in general confidence = attractive.
CedarWoodJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pomade, using it really boosts my confidence and it makes you pay attention to your hair/haircut.
I buy Old Spice's spiffy pomade for casual days and more expensive brands for those special days. For six-twenty bucks per canister it's an almost priceless confidence booster that only takes about five to ten minutes every morning.
Squid25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, smile, smile. Even when you're on the phone. Your energy is more upbeat and positive if you smile. A smile is an invitation. So smile.
abexfleck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Open your mouth wide and breath heavily though it.
Makhauser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm
leetee91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The secret to life is being sweet.
doonkune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wear clothes that fit
Squid25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put a potato in your pants.
Methuus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
joh2141 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh posture was something that came naturally working out with correct form. Of course some people will have to put more effort into it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Vatrumyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suck my gut in. I'm not fat but I have a bit of a belly that I can "fake" to look good under clothes. Other than that I also brush my hair and beard so I look well kept and not a psycho hobbo that meandered on campus.
shan-none ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep. A regular sleeping regiment can help you control eating habits, affect your mood, make you obviously more alert and witty, and makes your skin look better. When healthy living is a goal, this should be number one on your list.
ROK247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
win the powerball
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haircut! yes yes yes. can't overstate that one. a decent haircut, esp for a guy, is super-important. if long hair, neat and well-kept, not sticking out all over and looking like you just got dragged through a hedge backwards. same with beard!
Halfway decent clothing! it doesn't need to be fancy but a decent button-up shirt and jeans that fit and flatter, plus regular leather shoes in good shape. let's just say quality clothing that fits and flatters. (E.G. my guy likes to wear clothes that fit him 50 lbs ago. luckily that's not ALL The time.)
Guero76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a better hair cut
Honestly I change my hair cut and style and I noticed I got more looks from people, also got a bunch of compliments on how well it looked
totalyredness20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a guy get a fresh haircut every other week. It's very noticeable and at least makes you look like you somewhat have your shit together.
budonick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get fit, get in physically better shape.
TheProdigalBootycall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Running has been shown to even your skintone, which people associate with health. Meditation makes you more calm and happy, which people associate with status. And it also makes you more fun to be around, which is its own reward.
Caforiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, genuinely.
creampieguy49 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are PLENTY of things you can do to be more attractive, and it doesn't matter how "ugly" you perceive yourself to be because 99% of the time if you put a little work in it makes a ton of difference.
For guys:
-style your hair a bit. It doesn't have to be some elaborate hairdo but take some of that clay they sell in stores and slick it to the side/back -wear khakis. Yes, jeans are acceptable for a casual look, but to look attractive and professional khakis are the way to go. Just make sure you- - wear Vans shoes. If you wear khakis with tennis shoes you look like a dad. -purchase a good quality jacket if you have the money. I recently saved up money from work to treat myself to a good quality jacket and I've gotten numerous compliments from a lot of girls -wear good shirts. It doesn't have to be a dress shirt but avoid the faded t-shirts -color match. Never wear black on black unless you're in a tuxedo or something. Always try to match things and if you can't get a grasp on it, ask a female friend. -CONFIDENCE IS KEY! Yes, it sounds cheesy and cliche but it really is the key to so many things. But remember that there's a fine like between confidence and arrogance. You want to walk with your head up and a SLIGHT swagger, but not an exaggerated movement of the shoulders which suggests you think you're better than everyone else
For girls:
-NEVERRRR wear too much makeup. A little bit of eyeliner and whatever else girls wear is fine, but making your face look like you took a paint brush and smeared it on your face not only doesn't make you attractive, it makes you unattractive -wear things that accentuate your body. I don't mean to wear a skimpy top and see through tights or some hoe thing like that, but try to find things that really bring out the curves. If you're not blessed with big boobs or a big butt, FEAR NOT! I know plenty of guys who prefer small boobs/butts. If you have a little bit of fat and you're a bit chunky, also FEAR NOT! I and a lot of guys love the extra-womanly taste it brings to a girl. Obviously though you can't be morbidly obese so don't lie to yourself if you think you are actually fat. I don't want anyone reading this to think it's okay to be fat fat (unless you have a condition like my best friend does), because it can lead to so many unfortunate medical complications that you don't need. -maroon is a color that always looks really nice on girls. I read somewhere that red clothing makes girls more attractive for some reason -don't be a bitch. I don't care how big a girls tits are or how pretty she is, if I don't like her I don't talk to her, and plenty of guys think like that -finally, CONFIDENCE IS KEYYYYYYYY. While it is cute (at least to me) when a girl has low self-esteem and is kinda shy, it is so sexy when a girl loves her body and walks around like she doesn't give a damn because she knows she's hot. Even if you aren't naturally too attractive it still increases your attractiveness EXPONENTIALLY.
End note: I know plenty of girls who I thought at first (upon meeting them a few years ago when we were all in middle school) who were very unattractive. But once they started doing the stuff above I really started to notice them and some girls have gone from (to put it bluntly) "disgusting" to "Jesus she is HOT!".
SkittilyBoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Giving people the time of day.
It sounds like such a simple thing, but so many people do NOT do this. Showing a genuine interest in what someone has to say, listening, and having an insightful comment in return is something that not only makes you far more attractive to others, but can help you succeed in other areas as well.
HowDo_I_TurnThisOn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Groom yourself.
Shaggy hair and a patchy beard don't look good. Get a decent haircut and trim your beard into something presentable. I'm not saying you need to be clean shaven, but keep it in check.
rochford77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear the correct amount of makeup. Sometimes less is more....
typhoidmarry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be an asshole.
VA1KYR13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes you feel good in. Feeling confident makes you look confident and looking confident is attractive. Find a style you like and stick with it.
JDGamers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
RaylordC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is very simple to answer.
Don't be overweight or underweight, exercise and be healthy Being pale doesn't often work so get a tan Good Hygiene Dress in clothes that suit you, ask people's opinion that are popular for style advice Smile, see a dentist if required If you have acne fix it If your a girl learn how to do your make up Get your hair done at a place that is to expensive Be well groomed
If all this is difficult you could just find a way to be rich
ask a feminine homosexual male and do everything they tell you
locotxwork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually good advice. Also, be nice.
iceterrapin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have money
Sangheilioz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Practice good hygiene, have better posture, and get clothes that actually fit your body type. This, along with the confidence boost that this combination should give you, will instantly make you more attractive.
katamac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being polite. Even something as simple as saying please, thanks, excuse me, etc..
divi8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a male I've learned to cut my own hair. I do it once a week and I ALWAYS look sharp like I just had my hair cut!
Also, never stare. Don't let people know that you obviously want them. Confidence is sexy.
Sprinklesss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise even slightly. It doesn't have to be some insane ultra-marathon training, but just DO SOMETHING to the best of your ability. Not even just for weight management, but for self-confidence, skin health, etc.
StimpleSyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simple hygiene! Shower. Brush your teeth AND floss. Laundry. And put a squirt or two (not 90) of cologne/perfume.
syrielmorane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See yourself as attractive. Visualize it. Imagine those that look at see you as attractive.
Self confidence is the most important part of it. But too much will be a turn off. Use it wisely.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink more water!
Weedemy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth and floss.
Uhmsolike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower. Smile.
woodsyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Laugh at my jokes
knowledgequester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look within..
severus66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys I followed the top 10 posts in this thread.
Brushed teeth, combed hair, put on clothes, washed anus, even flossed. Where is Victoria Beckham? I'm here to fuck her and pose for the cover of GQ.
SirLoondry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read books.
mechchic84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For a select few a paper bag will do wonders. You can even cut a picture from a magazine and glue it in place.
dude-O-rama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a better job, make more money. Repeat. Do over until you find an attractive partner. Don't get married or if you must prenup all the way.
Zhandrix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
Zero_Teche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your fucking teeth. Dental hygiene is taught from childhood, why are so many adults failing at it?
StopItOkay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wear the skin of pretty women.
mercyful_fade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wear scarves, seriously
airoderinde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence is key. I've seen guys/ladies pull people well outside of their league with that alone.
sarcazm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ballskazoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teeth Whitening strips.
chedbomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink more.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are male, make more money and buy a nicer car.
schmassani ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop doing things to try and appeal to other people. Do it for yourself.
If someone is into you but that stray nose hair or looking down when you walk is just a deal breaker, you're probably better off without them.
GoshDominate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Close your lips and put your tongue on the roof of your mouth. This is the most natural oral posture and it can greatly improve the tension on your facial muscles and make you more attractive on the long run. It's especially effective to children around 7-9, but it works for adults too. I've been telling all of my family and friend this since I started doing this following the instruction of John and Mike Mew, and have got great results in just months. Search Orthotropics on Youtube for more info.
CaptainSuperdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress nice as often as you can. Even if you are just briefly going out among people, dress well. When you dress well, you will feel a lot more confident and people will see that you care about how you look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how easy or simple these things are for other people, but I made these things habits, so I do them automatically with almost no effort.
Graenea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a care in your appearance. You don't have to get all spiffed up but even taking a shower and wearing clean clothes will make you seem more attractive.
Take care of yourself. In my opinion, someone who takes care of themself seems far more attractive than someone who doesn't.
OK_just_the_tip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be attractive to begin with.
papudappu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly I'm guilty of this from time to time, but try not to constantly one-up someone in a conversation, unless you think it'll add to it or keep the discussion going.
Basically, don't try to be the center of discussion at all times.
gnovotnydds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Complete confidence in whatever it is you are doing
allbaseball77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think that you're attractive, the rest will follow. I'm not talking about having an ego, just being confident with how you look inside and out.
seran0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have more money than you currently do
iamkitkatbar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have money, lots of it.
e39dinan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't farmer blow onto a wood floor in front of your wife after getting out of the shower and walking across the bedroom naked. It might induce vomiting.
xSlushHushx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss
dizzi800 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wear proper fitting clothes
Learn to colour co-ordinate said clothes
if you're a guy: Keep that facial hair under control.
posture
keep your weight in check
MikeCharlieUniform ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get strong. Applies to the fellas and the ladies. Pays dividends in many of the other areas mentioned (better posture, better fitting clothes, etc). Being strong and fit sends better signals about reproductive fitness to members of the opposite sex. (Note: this isn't "be a body builder". Just do some bodyweight fitness. Take the stairs. No need to get swole.)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put on weight. That way your gravitational pull is greater.
Or eat magnets. Whatever works.
dazedwit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For men, don't wear wrinkled clothes.
For females, paint your toe nails.
volvos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear glasses - my friend calls them sixers because they turn fours into sixes and eights in to sixes
cantpissoffmods ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get money. And let people know it.
i2tall4abike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Approach everyone as if they are a long term friend. Treat people kindly, until they prove that they have no desire to reciprocate that. Not being a dick goes a long way.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise? Its simple, but it takes time and dedication, which is probably not what op is looking for.
PoopChute_Pate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Wear clothes that fit you properly! This makes a massive, massive difference. You will feel more confident as a result as well,which in turn helps even more.
Unfortunately if you can't afford high end designers (not many can), then it usually takes time to shop around and get a wardrobe of well-fitting clothes (especially for men, as lots of manufacturers seem to think it doesn't matter to us) but it's definitely worth it.
hojimbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Finally, and it's an obvious one: make health a pillar of your life. Eat well, move often. It improves your physical appearance and your mood.
qryCosmos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get more sleep. So many people get to work after only 5 or 6 hours a night and wonder why they look like death warmed over.
The-GentIeman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout. Lift weights especially (Guy or girl). As a former CC runner I was not considered very attractive seeing I was so skinny.
IamAwesome-er ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy good clothes. Dont have to spend ALOT....but go out and buy a few new, clean, well fitting items. Pair of jeans, slacks, sweater, shirt...
G_ConMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...Bathing also helps... Personal experience, I won't get into it
_animalcontrol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ask questions like this.
Kanye_To_The ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be open and don't be afraid to tell people about your past. It makes you real and more appealing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put a paper bag on your face you freak
illinfinity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go get some nice cologne.
GeekySweetie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good basic hygiene and skincare, and good posture.
macsb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
harmlessmusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to cook.
There is nothing more attractive than a beautiful breakfast, or a well-prepared dinner for two, or a large dinner party with family/friends. If you have the best cooked dish at a potluck, you are de-facto the sexiest person in the room.
Malinut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Play the guitar.
Look girls in the eye, or the lips, but not the chest.
Express confidence, even if you have to hide nervousness by masking it as enthusiasm.
Never talk about money.
Read books.
Become educated.
Behave with probity and dignity.
Be yourself.
or
Drink/swear/fight and get lots of tattoos.
SPectrXX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
bahhumbugger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Water
Bankins88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A very simple, one has been missed here: get a tailor.
That doesn't mean have all your close made to order. It means go buy your clothes knowing your going to spend an extra $15 in tailoring per item. Personally, I buy 80% of my stuff at Ross/Marshalls/TJM and get it all tailored. The total cost is less than buying a designer and looks better too
TheTurtleyTurtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all know you're trying to fake out that Zurich University website.
shushbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure your nails are clean.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile :)
krustyeggroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have good hygiene
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a good posture.
T-Baggins415 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight or be at least close to the appropriate weight for your height, dress well, shower every day and keep your hair nice and styled.
DrPhilodox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work the fuck out. You don't have to be Swolly McSwollerson, but for fuck sake run a few miles a week, swim, do push-ups, sit-ups, stretch, anything. Most of my fellow Americans look like malnourished, dying piles of turds. And I don't mean malnourished in that you're not eating enough, you definitely are, but you look pastey and gray and you can barely walk a mile without huffing and puffing and you can't even touch your fucking toes. Eat some vegetables and do a few free squats, you need it.
byebyebrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop playing video games
jazuminchan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there goes any chance I have of being more attractive.
Kabufu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a puppy, or a baby. Doesn't even have to be yours. Just go out to the park and play with it. Make sure it is adorable. Extra points if you're an otherwise large and intimidating man.
dogbert730 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inherit money.
djuggler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Marry up.
giveer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give. Less. Fucks. (No, really)
DogLegJournalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10 push ups when you get out of bed and 10 push ups before you go to bed.
bewilderedhill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out more. Eat less shitty food.
baitaozi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smiling.
BobisBadAss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Talk good.
forzaflow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
areraswen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm regards to any face acne you may have, make sure you brush your teeth at least once a day and change your pillow case regularly.
BHMaloney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're losing your hair, just buzz it or shave it all off. A combover or weird haircut makes you look worse not better
OneRandomVictory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower and groom yourself, get a haircut that matches your face, Where clothes that aren't ragged and old that match and fit relatively well. invest a little time in yourself, like with a hobby.
iliketunamelts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't slouch.
starbelly__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your fingernails clean, smile often, take as good care of your skin as you can. And don't be a complainer!!! Nothing worse than being stuck in a conversation with someone with nothing nice or at least productive to say.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm probably going to get shit for this; and this goes for guys and girls. A little foundation goes a long way. If you have a few reddish blemishes in the morning (or night) and have somewhere important to be, consider dabbing a little foundation on there that matches your skin tone. If done well you'll barely notice it's on there and other people definitely won't notice.
loptthetreacherous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By tomorrow, we'll have all forgotten to stand up straight, drink lots of water, floss, manage our eyebrows etc.
Andrex316 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean and groom yourself
LexMasterFlex15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The color red may make you more attractive
memerboy88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly be confident, if you cant be confident, fake it. One thing i always did back in college to make myself more confident was to clamp a chip clamp on my foreskin and walk around with people not suspecting a thing. Sounds wierd but hey, what works works am i right?
college_kid14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear cologne/perfume. After looks, scent is the biggest determining factor in sexual attraction.
Atomicpsycho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop arguing. I'm sure you are a smart person and know a ton of awesome information...but stop being so pushy about it no one fucking cares. It shows how immature you are. It's OK to be wrong sometimes. We are not perfect some times we dohear wrong information.
sunsethacker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't stress enough how important it is to dress nicely. Butt ass ugly people can look attractive with the right outfit etc.
kevincreeperpants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step one- Get a box.
Step two- Cut a hole in that box.
Step three- Enjoy all the attention from ladies you will get. They will be so attracted to you that they will handcuff you and throw you in the back of thier car.
ninja20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good Posture!! Edit: And confidence!!
ChibiHuynH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dudes, walk into a fucking nail salon, spa place, whatever. Ask to get your eyebrows done. It'll take 5-10 minutes at most and shouldn't be more than 10 bucks if you're going to an Asian place. They're not going to make them pencil thin or anything. Simply cleaning up the hair around your brows makes a world of difference
iLoveLamp83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of weight loss/grooming/hygiene tips in here, so I'll say these instead.
ajvalent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make eye contact. Shows confidence and a willingness to engage.
nereid1997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is mostly for men, but I guess works for anyone: Dress better - doesn't mean expensive clothes, just nice, quality basics work. Pick colours that go well together, that you like and suit you, and leave things like graphic tees for when you know people will appreciate them. Nice shoes make all the difference. You can make jeans and a tshirt look like a smart casual outfit with some nice dress shoes or boots.
henrikose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep.
tape_measures ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stand up straight or sit straight. hunched is not sexy.
PenguinMan27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have good posture. Standing up straight makes you appear and actually feel more confident.
mersyone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less
CongratsBroGoodJob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise regularly, keep your facial hair neat, get some sun, don't dress like a slob, brush your teeth and bathe regularly, wear deodorant.
Fooies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
uh bathe more?
NotJokingAround ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make more money
schiffme1ster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower, brush your teeth, be interested in others.
lispychicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ImAPixiePrincess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having confidence. Or just knowing how to dress so things match is always a bonus. Also the right haircut. Some haircuts just don't look as good on one person as another, deals with facial structure and all that fun stuff.
WZRDsteve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny how this post came about around the same time as this: https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetIsBeautiful/comments/3zkesv/a_website_made_by_zurich_university_to_tell_you/
stealth_ghost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress nicely
jkeegan123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't bite your nails!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a shower daily. It not only cleans you, but it makes you feel better. If you feel better, you will act like it and will be more attractive.
henryletham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely make your eyes look like the rest of your face is smiling even if you're not actually smiling. It's basically a scientifically proven thing to be very effective but I'm too lazy to back that bold claim up with an actual source.
JuJewBea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Money.
Beastachu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Visually? Accessoires/fasion - cloths make the person. Talk to someone you know who always is dressed right for their input on what would look good on you. Generally tho, hobbies, interests & the ability to communicate about them without overwhelming the person you're talking to. The most attractive thing a person can rock is a passion
Sigerr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your life has to tell a story.. That is kinda like why girls "love badboys" - it's because their live is exciting.
Also, fuck me with your eyes
Sweeden87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well fitting clothes made a massive difference to me. Slim fit shirts and pants.
SpidermanLovesYoda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are some great inputs here. However, I keep seeing the thing about smiling more. I think this confuses some people who aren't naturally socially gifted. You don't have to walk around with a big teeth-bearing grin at all times. That might come off the wrong way.
THowever, think of it more like you're smiling to yourself, until some kind of interaction or something makes you smile bigger or whatever. It's not a huge smile; it's usually a little one that's often close-lipped and subtle. The result is that you'll end up walking around with a pleasant look on your face. This can turn into a smirk, but you'd rather be a smirker than a grimace. Hell, people may even ask you some day, "what are you so happy/grinning about?" Have a response ready. "Oh just life, ya know?" Be creative. Now you have a conversation going with a person who was drawn to speak with you. Because you changed how you hold your face. Easy.
You don't have to do this all the time, but you should know how to do it, especially in situations where you care how others are perceiving you.
JobDestroyer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read more books, read a sunday paper, learn how to make three great meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner), drink more water, don't EVER drink just to get drunk, be patient and tolerant (even when undeserved).
EDIT:: Always bring mad bluntz too the party.
maestroenglish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try a different cologne everyday until you find the right one.
Girls know it.
ohhmyg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyebrow threading. God. It instantly brights up your face when you have a pair of nice brows.
Joshua_Seed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Earn Money.
Zoklett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind. Like proactively. Look for little ways to be nice to those who could use someone being nice to them. Not necessarily the guy/girl you're trying to impress. A good person will find your kindness and selflessness attractive.
CommonKings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit!
radbadash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use proper grammar.
Dude-e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A proper haircut
Hethrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grow a beard.
eccentricelmo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bathe
rainingramen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight--have good posture. You'll look taller and more confident.
wyldeslash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Elephant in the room, pun intended, lose weight.
SpazasaurusREX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a good listener and take interest in people however much significant they seem to be to you.
hoosierhiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put away your cell phone
kateemo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The clarisonic exfoliating machine is a godsend. Also be nice. Meanness makes you ugly. Niceness automatically gives you a point or two in the good looking direction.
Kiwicat00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be aware of your features. If you have a large forhead, get some bangs. If you eyebrows are terrible, fix them. If you don't do anything with your hair, get a haircut and stop being lazy.
This is purely physically speaking. I think a lot of people already answered the whole "personality" part. Get some confidence and some hobbies. But lets be real. If you have awful features, you need to learn how to play them down.
yesicametoparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Know how to engage in conversation. Show interest in the person you're talking to by asking questions!! It'll make the person you're conversing with feel special. Nothing less attractive to me than someone who drones on and on about themselves.
mecartistronico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a guy, try to speak in a deeper voice. Or at least try to avoid speaking/laughing in a high pitch. Of course, you don't want it to seem forced, but once you get used to it it becomes natural.
shroomfactory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smle
Patrho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower daily. Being clean is very important. Also, don't use slang for regular communication. It's makes a person seem uneducated and is just plain annoying. Look the person that you are talking to in the eyes and smile.
notabigmelvillecrowd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends to whom you want to be attractive.
The_Specialest_K ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower every day, shave your face(if you are male), get your hair styled in a way that looks good and fits you, try to have good posture, and finally act confident. If you are more dedicated, update your wardrobe, tend to any acne (if you have it), and work out every other day.
Dragoness42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight. Good posture does wonders for your physical attractiveness as well as your confidence level, and makes you appear (and actually be) more open to social interaction and approachable.
Deftunes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're physically unable to, STAND UP STRAIGHT. Slouching is bad for you and looks bad too.
Fer-999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a good haircut, go to the gym and get some nice fitting clothes.
dssx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take showers (with soap and shampoo) Wear Deodorant and clean clothing. Brush your teeth Drink more water, less soda/alcohol Exercise 3x a week Get consistent sleep Learn to budget Read a book now and then Ask people about themselves Learn a skill Have a hobby Take technology breaks
TouchMyJunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Serious general answer in order of importance to me:
Good hygiene - shower, shave, brush teeth, comb hair and apply deodorant daily.
Dress well - buy clothes that fit, are classically styled and are clean. It is always better to be overdressed than under. You do not need to buy hi priced garments to get decent quality.
Conversation/Interaction - Look people in the eyes while speaking to them, actively listen to answers, ask questions, smile.
Male, female, big, small, short, tall, these three general things seem to be a good starting point. Just and opinion, I am a guy, it has worked for me.
Monitor04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout. Get a good haircut, get nice clothes. Meditate, it lowers social anxiety and improves confidence.
FerragamoHussein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people look good with unkempt/unmaintained (not a word, I know) hair/beards. I'm not one of those people. I go to my barber once a week to get a haircut and lineup (beard trimmed and shaped with a razor). I find I'm more confident when I look kept.
Most importantly tho, if you're going to try to look good, do it for yourself first. When you find yourself looking good, your confidence in public will be boosted naturally. My GF hates my hair style and my beard, but I don't care cause I need to be comfortable in my own skin first.
QuadAmericano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn how to make eye contact and shake hands properly. It goes a long way.
ronindavid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man, you need to have a plan, work on it everyday, make adjustments as needed, and have absolute confidence in it. Have a schedule and stick to it. Know exactly where you are and where you're going. Have absolute control over your time and finances. Nothing makes woman more attracted to a guy than one that's really got his shit together.
The paradox is, with there being limited resources lately, (few good paying jobs, less money in the system, cost of living skyrocketing, working longer hours for less pay, etc) the more you have your shit together, the more you'll realize that women are a hindrance in general as they require massive amounts of time/resources (which you don't have).
evilgart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a hair cut.
rahyveshachr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For starters, wash your clothes every once in a while and change it up. I saw that bloody skidmark in your underwear the last 3 times I came over to visit... do you even change? (note: I saw it because his shirts are too short when he bends over and his underwear/crack shows. Yes, he. No, I don't stare.)
Next, wash your hair. Shave your beard. Put on deodorant. Maybe actually showering more than once every few days would help the smell, and probably your skin too.
I care about you because you're my Family Member, and I know from talking to you that you've been working on your confidence and attitude, but you stink and look like a slob and it's gross.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This post is a godsend. I got a rating of "Hmm.." and "Ok" on that Zurich University attractiveness rater that was on the front page today.
Cerealwithseeds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happiness
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bathe.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To sum up what I've seen here -
chriswearingred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't take advice from strangers on the Internet is good. And learning how to dress yourself.
PhilHartmansGhost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a sense of humor.
welcometoraisins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever this question pops up, I always see guys telling other guys that khakis and chinos are dressed up. NO. Khakis make me think of my dad. Or Target employees. There are pants out there for men that are not jeans or khakis!
roberta_sparrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read "How To Win Friends And Influence People"
Very simple book that will have a huge impact.
IveAlreadyWon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure you are clean, and if you have facial hair, keep it neat. Also wear clothing that fits. Regardless of your size, proper fitting clothing is big.
ianme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give. Change your mentality from "What can I take from this person?" to "What can I give this person?". Sometimes all you have to give is positivity, so be positive.
EZ_2_Amuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read more books
deehayzee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn peoples names and address them as such. It doesn't even hurt to overuse it at first in places that you would otherwise use a pronoun, just to emphasize to them that you care enough to know it.
If you forget someone's name, don't be afraid to ask them again. It's not as good as remembering it, but it shows that you want to know it.
If you forget after that, it's probably best to ask someone else while they aren't listening. And as a side note, in the future, try and do better. You shouldn't need to be told three times.
Trouduc1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ditch the veil (and the silly superstitions that go along with it...)?
Auburn_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, make eye contact.
captain_i_patch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pluck those renegade hairs that start showing up around your hair line. For me it does not make me more attractive but I feel better being neat and tidy. If you feel better about your self it shows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the gym.
DFxVader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower, brush your teeth, and wear clean clothes. That shit goes a long way..
brixton75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deodorant and being clean. No stray hairs, clean teeth, clean, neat hair and attire. Odor is a big one. Don't smell strongly of anything!!! Even cologne can be a huge turn off. Confidence and being able to make a decision without being overbearing. A nice smile and eye contact, don't take yourself too seriously. Be fun and funny, just not too funny.
wonderbrad100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bathe regularly
Royaldrewballz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iron your damn clothes so you don't look like a lazy bum.
vegetarianchili ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little mascara, some blush and always be clean.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear glasses
tjhensman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just not those giant windscreens youth seem to be wearing these days.
samwhitehurst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised what a shower can do
jimmyjazz2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretend to be confident until you are.
Ipaybribes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100 push-up challenge.
toepin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love yourself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women notice our shoes. Don't wear grungy piece of shit shoes.
djauralsects ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For men: haircut, new shoes, cheap sunglasses.
defmute ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy clothes that fit you properly. Squeezing into those skinny jeans aren't going to help you.
jazuminchan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently, most of the things that I find attractive are not attractive...
And I'll never be attractive by being myself. Good. Glad that was cleared up. Lol
fanciest_of_bananas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
copious amounts of alcohol. Wait, no, that makes other people more attractive, lemme think. Getting the other one copious amounts of alcohol?
jayelsie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking things in stride when shit happens and not using the situation as an excuse to treat others poorly.
bmahimahi23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deodorant.
xMASSIVKILLx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth and comb your hair.
urgaan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you already look decent being funny makes you significantly more attractive. Humans like funny people, can you imagine wanting to date someone who never makes you laugh?
kervinjacque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be nice and open towards people.
smccai15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat right and no i dont mean that in the weight sense how you hold your fork not eating like. Barbarian.
bigbootybitches6969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygenie makes all the difference
Ragdoll_Proletariat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mainly for the girls, but if you use glittery lotion it'll make your boobs look bigger.
brotoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Mainly"... ;)
Ragdoll_Proletariat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone has the right to feel sparkly if they want to, damn it!
drwumpus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat with your mouth shut
PerogiXW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shampoo and condition. You want your hair to smell nice, but you also want it to be soft and smooth. Not greasy. Not dry. You want smooth blankety hair.
Unless you have naturally curly hair, in which case ignore this comment.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have to ask Reddit, it's already too late for you
Crust_Station ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paint your toes, show them off.
Flowhard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Validate people's perspective. You don't have to agree with it, just acknowledge that their point of view matters.
kilkylEd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout
Smien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might sound silly but a sidecut always does the trick
YellowRhyno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clip your fingernails. And no that doesn't meant bite them off
Do_it_for_the_upvote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut somewhat regularly (probably not applicable for women). Even if you're growing out your hair/beard, it looks disheveled when it's simply grown out naturally without trimming and upkeep. Don't be afraid to use hair products as well.
Vary your wardrobe. T-shirts are fine for casual occasions, and are usually in good taste, but don't wear them all the time. Mix it up. Wear a button-down to a hangout with your friends now and then, and usually on a date.
The above two points go together in a bigger rule: keep yourself together, and looking it. Style, even if it's not all that fancy, shows that you take care of yourself and have your life together. It makes you much more attractive. A clean house/car is a huge bonus if you take a date back to your place too.
notlogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is being rich a simple thing?
EbolaJelly123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
worry about being happy more. don't stop until you have a secure job that pays well and have a beautiful partner (preferably of opposite sex)
sannahmarie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting your brows on fleek does wonders also.
sannahmarie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh and drink ALL the water.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SQUATS!!!!
christhecanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say thank you. Look up.
Kingy_who ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
Xams2387 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would recommend BodyWeight fitness exercise. It gives you a really good looking body and also is functional. I get way less tired throughout the day and have better strength and endurance than when I ever lifted weights.
astridstarship ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your head up high/keep your chin up. It kind of goes with the other posts about posture. I've noticed that when I solely do this while walking normally, more people check me out. It probably has to do with how your face seems symmetrical or something, and it could be that it's because you seem determined and confident.
frankenboobehs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy clothes that fit you correctly. Girls wearing to small of outfits can accentuate all your problem areas and make you look bigger/lumpier than you actually are.
brotoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Melt that muffin top away instantly! Wear pants that fit!
exoxe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get your teeth cleaned.
memehareb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
get a job, steve.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DocBalls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dress nice
figgle1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't smoke or do drugs, just pretty unattractive in my opinion.
jonnyopinion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never look in the mirror. Do not concern yourself with appearances. Transcend your ego.
rumdiary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up and get confident, stupid!
puzzledcats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
InsistantLover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get your finger out of your nose.
littlehannahbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to love yourself.
tmotytmoty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the long game: shave your face. Shaving exfoliates your skin and slows the formation of wrinkles as you age.
Safetyhawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
read a book every now and then.
CJRLW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a damn shower.
Iamamerican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Although it requires effort, try doing 25 pushups and 50 sit-ups every morning or night. Have a notebook next to your bed and begin increasing every week.
hellokatekat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half hour Crest White Strips ๐
FayeBlooded ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your nails properly. Don't bite them. I know it sucks, it's my new years resolution to not bite them. But the difference between my nails now and two weeks ago is astounding.
Bruinman86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A good sense of humor. People typically like the company of those who make them laugh or feel better about themselves.
xoites ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use your turn signals.
Don't leave your shopping cart in the middle of the parking lot.
Don't throw trash out of your car window.
Don't cut people off in traffic.
Treat other people like gold even if you don't know them.
Don't play your music so loud that it annoys others.
Forgive less attractive people.
niberungvalesti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a decent person, buy fitted clothes. Get a decent haircut. Adopt a style.
SilentlyCrying ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A simple way to become more attractive? Empathy and a love of life.
Other than that. Work out, eat healthy, pick up a few interesting hobbies, learn good diction, become well read, and travel. Learn about other people and show them the caring and warm side of a person that cares little about fashion trends and makeup tips and more about doing good and experiencing life.
If there is a set of qualities I look for above all in a partner it is intelligence, interesting hobbies, and someone who speaks well. And when I am single I attempt to put those qualities in myself first above anything else.
A little style and a good haircut certainly don't hurt, but make sure those things are for you and not just to attract other people (For whatever reason). If you simply want to make yourself feel more attractive, then become an interesting person and people will want to be around you. Everyone is beautiful. Everyone is someones type.
Health, Intelligence, and Empathy are the most attractive qualities in the world.
dysteleological ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bend over.
Deepcrater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop comparing yourself to others. It saps your confidence and ruins your ideas. You don't need to be Hawking to have something worth hearing.
CooterCrisp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PM_ME_UR_ASSHOLE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dress nice. Not talking suited all the time, but clothes that match me, look like I tried. Button ups, fitted clothes.
Tokemon_and_hasha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your fingernails trimmed, wear clean clothes, use deodorant, wash your dick, and pay for dinner.
wolfman86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight and dress maturely.
TravisKOP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
be hygienic. It isn't hard and costs nearly nothing. Biggest turn off in the world for me personally is a display of poor hygiene.
SquiddyFishy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This times a million, if you smell gross you can bet your ass i'm trying to get away from you.
Jaumej19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower everyday, get frequent haircuts(one that suits your face) and dress decently. There are tons of clothing stores out there where you can find nice clothes without spending a lot of money. It is very important to always look fresh.
The way you behave has also a lot to do with attractiveness. Make sure to look at people in the eye when you're talking to them, walk with your head up, that will make you look much more confident, which is the most attractive feature.
aredditgroupthinker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The nearly universal thing is to get in shape and lose weight. If you are too skinny though you will get more unattractive.
TheseMenArePrawns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're skinny, start seriously working out. If you're fat, lose that weight until you're skinny. Then start seriously working out.
It might suck, but the fact is that we're mammals working with instinctive sex drives. Everything on the top right now is about how to build on that initial spark. But it's worthless without it. And that spark comes from physical attraction.
MeArio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be easier to lose weight after you've already built some muscle mass especially if you didn't have much before.
Zokrym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Part your hair on the left, not on the right.
FobbitOutsideTheWire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My right or your right?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be passionate about something, actually listen when someone is talking to you instead of waiting for your turn to talk, have good posture, know that you're an amazing human being, and God damnit know how to throw together a quick pan sauce.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident.
reign-storm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men: Get a haircut! And style your hair! Takes 3 minutes every morning and can boost you from a 5 to an 8 instantaneously
kss5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pffft, long hair don't care. And I look tolerable enough.
reign-storm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I say Get a haircut, I don't mean to say that shorter hair is better, just that putting some effort into your hair can make a huge difference.
KnightsOfArgonia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Style goes a long way. Putting effort into an outfit that shows you give a damn looks really nice on your part
marilynmansonsbitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exert confidence. No matter how you look, the way you display yourself will get you some glances your way. Freshman year me hid behind bulky jackets and kept my hand in front of my mouth because I hated the way I talked and the way my teeth looked. These days I wear whatever I want as long as I like it, and I wear it with pride. It's great when you start feeling attractive to yourself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aside from dressing "appropriately" (tumblr would have a field day with that comment, I'm sure) make sure that you, at the very least, make it appear you're having a good time. For some reason people are always intrigued by other people's good times and a lot of times would like to know why you're so happy (or at least appear to be).
Jesus, the things you write while you're waiting on your food to cook.
Hope it helped, you savages.
Idontwanttogiveitup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being put together physically, such as good posture, haircut and pants that's fit is just the basics. What attracts most people is being engaging and empathetic. Listen and talk. Have opinions without being domineering. But to have opinions means you have to actually pay attention to the world around you. And have some kind of interests where you are actually doing something. Like cooking and painting.
thesarcasmic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the gym and take it seriously. It's amazing how much difference it can make on how you and others look at yourself. Simply going isn't enough. Once there make sure you are breaking a sweat, burning calories, working muscles. Simply walking on the treadmill for 15 minutes or doing 20 bicep curls with a 5lb weight aren't going to cut it.
Also, the shorter you are the more that weight that you are gaining or losing (hopefully) will make a difference. Women tend to get the shorter end of the stick on this because 20lbs makes a very noticable difference when you're shorter and depending on where you wear it.
slurmfactory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Body language. Cool calm and confident.
Nazaki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence. Have things you're passionate about (interests/hobbies). Be actively engaged as opposed to passively existing. Ask questions & have fun. I think the have fun is really important - too many people go around all grumpy-like.
stuckinatrance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1A - Physical Fitness
1B - Hygiene
1C - Confidence
jaiden0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speak up. A timid voice shows a lack of confidence. It's like you're apologizing for your existence.
Totulkaos6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simplest things are get a nice haircut and wear some nice clothes that fit properly
powitsyaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn and practice meditation to be present to the moment. Biggest life change I have made.
theSchmoopy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be passionate about something. Be polite and we'll mannered. Shower twice a day. Wear deorant and a small small amount of perfume. Meticulously groom your hair, eyebrows, nails, toenails. Tan. Whiten your teeth and smile more. Wear, in season and fashionable, clean clothing. Drive a nice clean car. Have a good updated phone. Walk with good posture. Tip well. Complain less. Have a positive attitude and outlook. Be fun to be around. Workout. Eat healthier. Show love for your family. Be confident and outgoing. Treat everyone respectfully.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence.
GrosCochon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've been actively doing all these things for a while now. I rock a solid posture with strong and reasonably big muscles, a clean face with a tidy head. I try to engage in conversation about their and my passions/hobbies.
Lost a great deal of weight in the last 5 years so clothes were hard but now i'm stable. Even if I lost that extra 15-20 pounds left it wouldn't change that much of anything so I started this summer to buy really nice shit for once.
People ask me why i'm at the gym 6 to 7 evenings a week. It's very simple actually, I ask everyone I suspect would want to hang out\eat out/drinks with me every three weeks. About 40% bother to answer with a no next time and they never do ask me out. So what do? Alors on pousse, pousse, pousse de la fonte, pour oublier la honte
I'm getting a lot of attention from chicks I don't feel attracted to at all. The 2/10 to 5/10 kind. But i'm not giving up. I try very hard to understand how I could better myself to make people want to be around me.
I hope I'd had time to be in all sorts of clubs like cycling, hiking, bicycle-touring but if I did my grades would take a hit.
So this is my whining so I don't go around spreading my negative thoughts.
bobbybouchier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know some people might not call this simple, but I change weight frequently because my job. Everytime I lose weight, I notice that I get more attention from women.
Tl;DR Lose weight
Rubieroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always be the person who is glad to see others, who initiates get-togethers, who listens, who is willing to spend time on others. This might not sound like something that will make you "pretty", but you'd be amazed how people are drawn to those who live a life of true and generous hospitality.
kamronb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From a guy's perspective - get a good job and get married. Seriously!!! I never knew how attractive I was until I started working a good enough job and got married. I used to get a girl here or there but the minute these two things happened to me, I had chicks digging my scene. But too bad for them, I'm off the market.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You realize that most people try to become more attractive in order to attract a hubby, right?
Lucky for me, I don't care, so I don't have to care about being attractive either.
Interpretive_Kelp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perfect your hygiene. Don't just do the bare minimum.
bloonail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a healthy or even lower weight for your height. Make your teeth white. Develop agility and flexibility - it makes your stance better. Wear up to date clothing. Be groomed.
fries6560 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sense of style, haircut, cologne
shiny_magikarp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Change your hairsyle. It does wonders.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm balding. It's either "really short" or "leaving patently obvious holes in your hairline".
I guess I could try "Bald"
rickyspainish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paint you finger/toe nails.
DenormalHuman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bath, wear clean clothes. Listen to people and take a genuine interest - get over yourself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit well, and coordinate your outfits. Good use of color (not clashing), and clothes that don't drape off your body make you look like an adult. I know a lot of people who dress like ten year olds, when they're much older than that.
DingDingDensha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your color fresh, touch up those roots, and put on a little eyeshadow once in a while.
usnabygator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
coreygodofall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a hobby that involves being active and enjoy it, dress stylishly, get your hair did, if need be. look after your skin (hands and face mostly), brush your teeth, chew gum (bad breath sucks). I think it depends on the person also. .Personally though, I think that self confidence may appeal to a larger audience and is better for your soul too, but that's a slightly different topic.
JoseyGunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
REMEMBER TO B.U.D.A.H.
BOLD
UPFRONT
DIRECT
ASSERTIVE
HONEST
Congratulations, you are now an attractive person regardless of all physical traits.
PseudoY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just an insufferable prick.
JoseyGunner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am sure a healthy dose of cynicism has gotten you far.
PseudoY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm doing alright.
JoseyGunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You seem assertive, direct, and upfront enough. I bet you B.U.D.A.H. and don't even know it.
You at least U.D.A.
oldskoolpleb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good! You can be hidious as fuck but with a spray of Invictus, One Million or Aqua di Gio everyone can smell good.
Palomewok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen to what everyone else has to say, there is wisdom on everybody, speaking can be a gift, but listening is an art.
WolfNippleChips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a bath...wash that ass. Good hygiene goes a long way.
prolapsed_arsehole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a cunt.
GongoozleGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't hold grudges
IM_FUCKING_SHREDDED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check my post history.
Ladybargod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Listen more than you speak
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
probably the simplest thing you can do to make yourself more attractive is just to smile
AltRanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, it makes a huge difference in how people see you, and it genuinely makes other people happy.
Smiles are contagious.
Sho_nuff_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do not like the way I look when I smile
lnastudillo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then it is a good thing you are not the one having to look at your face then
kairon156 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
for me I don't like seeing my teeth when I smile so I just do a closed mouth smile. Male Example. Female Example
Picnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bathe
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is up with a third of the posts being "SMILE!!!"? Maybe it's just me, I don't find it attractive or uplifting if someone I know smiles all the time. I'll assume they're just doing it to... well, make people think they're happy all the time and find them more attractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
keep your nails clean and not too long unless theyre well manicured. absolutely nothing worse than seeing someones really long, dirty nails. keeping your hands clean in general is so important imo, but especially nails.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get rich
nakedgoalie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be genuine/nice to your friends significant other/wives, treat them like a brother/sister even if you're a bit of a jerk. This will directly effect how their "single ready to mingle friends" see you. I know it works from first hand experience.
no40sinfl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
an annoying amount of self confidence and money help.
nomemesplease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout
fausse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise. Seriously. Find a sporty thing you like, sweat regularly, you'll glow and feel better about yourself. Also helps with anxiety and panic attacks (for me anyway). I started rock climbing a few months ago and it was really intimidating but I'm way more confident because of it, I feel like spiderman, I'm stronger everywhere, and I enjoy it. That's the gist, find something you like because you can't lose with that.
skyburnsred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out. Lift weights.
Not saying you gotta get jacked right now but if you at least attempt to pick up and put something down that's not edible three times a week, you'll lose weight.
At least you will feel like the body you were given is useful for something, even if it's just to prove it to yourself. It's a good hobby, and at least something to do between TV episodes or respawns. Also good if you're depressed and shit
jyssrocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence, and also wearing clothes that fit correctly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What ever style you want, always be neat and clean.
louiseG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be amused all the time, an inner amusement at what you see, the absolute silliness of life and people. It makes you look amused, approachable and in a good humor all the time. Doesn't mean walk around cackling,,just nice and a bit smiley!
think_addict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get off the internet for a few
JitteryBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Invite people to do things - you'll get a lot more invitations in return!
i.e., you have to be "there" in the first place for anyone to notice that you have attractive qualities
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush and floss. Not necessarily in that order.
bigedthebad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Comb your hair. I can't figure out when combing your hair became unfashionable.
colormegold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always look polished and presentable. Easy without investing money on new things: Clean shave, neat hair, iron your clothes, keep your nails short and clean, wash or polish your shoes, and always always have clean white teeth.
If you have some money to invest do the following: invest in clothes the fit you not too big and not too small. If you do not have a sense of fashion just ask for help from one of the workers. Time and time again people make the mistake usually of wearing clothes that is too baggy on them. It makes them look sloppy and like they just have given up on life. Also small details make a big difference. Wear a watch doesn't have to be expensive just wearing one automatically makes you look more polished. A nice pair of shoes goes a long way as well. Wearing "workout shoes" with jeans is a no no for me. Invest in some everyday casual shoes that are nice enough for a dinner but casual enough for everyday things.
IDK why but I am assuming you are a guy. From a female perspective just seeing someone with bulky messy shoes, dirty grimmy teeth, and baggy clothes is a turn off.
alphasquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep yourself in a constant state of sexual arousal.
MaseratiBiturbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile!
BraddlesMcBraddles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chew with your mouth closed.
For some of us, this is like nails on a chalk board. (For those who it bothers, it needs no explanation.)
Kyzzyxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me? Die.
Ryzon9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight and build muscle
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spend more money on the people around you.
Mind you, this is not wise and ultimately not beneficial, but it does make you more attractive to most people if you do it right.
I used to not understand how my scumbag acquaintances would be able to take girls home from clubs and bang them, or be able to consistently have girlfriends. They weren't very smart, attractive, or clever, so I really just couldn't get how they were bringing these otherwise-decent-seeming girls home with them. Turns out, their trick at the club was to drop a grand at the bar on whoever would look their way (which they either got from selling drugs or from credit cards). They also spent all their money on their girlfriends, taking them out and buying them shit. I guess it made those girls think the guys were generous and fun or whatever, I'm not saying they were all just getting fucked for money -- I'm pretty sure they actually thought the guys were decent and they felt special. Since I never did any of that, instead opting for the "just be yourself" strategy, my success rate at bars was significantly lower.
rclosurez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't put too much effort into, also don't ignore how you come across.
Bodhinaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cold showers will improve the appearance of your skin and hair.
Dorfunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A40 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mascara. Most people look more attractive with more visible lashes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
For men: Suits are good. Tailored suits that fit are better.
I often wear jeans and a T-shirt. I am a very casual guy. I spent three years as a percussion Instructor at a local high school that performed on the competitive marching band circuit. I bought four individual suit pieces that fit "ok" for about 140 bucks, paid a further 30 bucks to have them tailored to my specific size/weight/shape, and then showed up to our first competition. The children were on the bus, listening to the radio, and when they noticed me, they opened their windows and all started chanting (they're marching band students, they certainly weren't singing) that "Fancy" song that was so popular a year or three ago. The only way it could've been better is if, I dunno, something behind me was exploding as i casually walked away from it.
It wasn't the suit- lots of men wear suits. I bought a 100 dollar suit, and then spent 30 bucks (and a few hours) making it look like a 600 dollar suit. That's what makes the difference.
So that's how you look good.
Now let's talk about being real. And for the record, i am not talking about being an inconsiderate, judgmental asshole and then just saying something like "hey dog, i'm just keeping it real."
Being real is a lot harder than it sounds, because it means accepting more things about the world we live in than I can possibly list. Physical Violence doesn't actually fix problems. If your first response to any personal slight or offense is to want to kick someone's ass, that's not real. That's you being a violent individual that doesn't know how to actually live with or around other people (or at least, other people who have differing idealogies/personalities/senses of humor than you).
Being real also means engaging in intimate behavior. And I'm by no means talking about sex here. Frankly, with our sexually liberated culture, Intimacy isn't sex, and sex isn't intimacy. Sometimes being intimate is nothing more than allowing yourself to cry or experience true emotion in front of people. You may be a 39 year old male who is deeply touched by a loving scene in a movie and sheds a tear. You may be a woman who has finally had it with men and is asking her friends and family for support as she comes out as lesbian. Hell, you could be a rock star who's finally decided to come clean about your history of drug and sexual abuse- both giving and receiving.
The point is, Intimacy isn't just physical- it's letting people see a part of you that is vulnerable, and trusting those people to care for and about it in a respectful and compassionate manner.
And sometimes, keeping it real is about letting someone know, to their face, with nothing more than your words, that they're a judgmental douchebag, and that the world is full of interesting people with quirks, oddities, and unusual habits, whether said judgmental douchebag likes it or not.
Lastly, and i hope the cliche doesn't take away from the (hopefully speaking) wisdom of my post, but life is short. There are so many people out there who have so many incredible talents that will never see the light of day because that talented person is too busy worrying about work ("I have to make enough money to pay the bills") or what other people think of them ("I don't want to spend another friday night alone with netflix!"). I see a lot of people out there who devote a ton of energy to making the people around them love them, and by the time it's all said and done, they don't have enough mental or physical energy left to bother loving themselves. Let me ask- If you don't love yourself, what right do you have to ask others to love you?
the last thing I want to say is one I consider the most important, but also acknowledge as the least factual:
Respect is the most important thing of all.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not wearing a goddamn suit. I feel hot enough wearing one layer of clothing throughout the year, and I live in a temperate climate!
Chrondor7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower!
smells ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be well groomed. Wear tailored shirts (made to measure is fine) and the best shoes/boots you can afford.
superluminary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a job, get money, have a purpose and be going somewhere interesting in your life. People will want to come too.
PsichicTherapist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be polite. Don't be an asshole. Groom yourself so you'll smell nice and look properly hygienic. Look at people as they are persons, not your personal toys/therapists/servants and act accordingly. Don't be an asshole - this one is never too much to remember.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise.
takingallthebiscuits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read this a few days ago. It scared the bejeezus out of me, but it's fantastic as an explainer of how to make yourself more appealing to the world at large. http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink enough water and take care of your skin. These don't take a lot of money and make a world of difference. I use coconut oil as moisturizer , make my own masks, ect. Not smoking and drinking plenty of water will make your skin so much better. Even if you have underlying hormone issues, it will improve things. Depending on sensitivity you can exfoliate evert few days with baking soda (and a washclth, but be gentle!!!) Vitamin E capsules popped open and patted under your eyes at night. Honey and coco powder into a paste make an amazing moisturizing mask - baking soda exfoliation, rinse, honey/cocoa mask, hop in shower, rinse before you get out. It's not complicated and doesn't have to be costly but it can take some trial and error to find what's rght for your face. People fucking notice clear skin.
They0001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay home.
tempt_with_hams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Improve your personal hygiene. Wash your clothes. Clean your bathroom (assuming you've made it that far).
Mad--Season ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk,Run,Lift. Repeat.
bashar_speaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch how you speak. Speak from your gut, enunciate, eradicate any trendy bad speech habits like vocal fry and uptalking. Model the way that late-night talkshow hosts speak.
Stop doing the unattractive things you do. It's usually easy to point out if you pay attention: horrible posture and facial expressions (no, your face tensed up in a scowl is not your "natural resting face"), bad haircuts/facial hair. Lose weight so that you have an actual jawline and cheekbones.
If you have that one feature that you hate, but you have money, don't be too proud to just go get the plastic surgery and get it over with. Take Elon Musk for example. The confidence you get from getting rid of that bump on your nose will spillover and make you more attractive and successful in other subtle ways.
sellyberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could put down this baby I'm holding and shower I suppose...
Buuuuut I won't :)
/r/nopoo
justjoshingu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drive a very nice car. And keep it clean.
DeckOfPandas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight!it instantly makes everyone look better.
ChlckenChaser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get an ugly friend
DistanceSkater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Burn more calories than you consume.
Person hygiene.
That's it.
conejaverde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower and brush your teeth regularly. Possibly invest in a (not overpowering) body spray or cologne/perfume.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of guys don't do anything to their hair. Literally takes me 5-10 mins to do my hair in a simple way and makes it look so much better.
TJ902 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take some time to think about what you actually want in a partner/love interest. Do you want an SO? A FWB? A rotation of a couple fuck buddies? Know what you're after/are open to and what you're not. That involves getting a better understanding of yourself. And a lot of people say "dress nice" but I think more specifically you should develop your own sense of style. You don't have to spend a lot of money. Thrift stores or places like Winners, or outlet stores are your friend. Smile, eye contact, know/learn how to read basic social cues and always try to take any attempts to rattle you or test your patience in stride.
Zetsubou51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a haircut ya hippie!
all_too_familiar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carry lots of cash.
ModsAreCuntz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be poor.
haystackthecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Improve your posture. It implies confidence, and at the same time, actually makes you look more graceful, stronger, and healthier.
Also, work with what you have, naturally. If you're a burly sort of hairy dude, put on a lumberjack vest, grow out that beard and rock it. Don't attempt to pull off the clean shaven, metro-sexual look. It won't work. If you have thin, fine, straight hair, go get a really angular, sleek haircut, not a perm. If you have a fair complexion, work that alabaster tone. Don't go fake-baking. It looks ridiculous. Curvy? Embrace that pin-up thing. Whatever you have, work it.
mc8675309 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at people you find more attractive, even if not sexually, figure out what you see in them that makes them more attractive and emulate those things.
Moreover, notice the things unattractive people do, how they act, the way they look and stop doing those things.
faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing how much more attractive you are when you're disgustingly rich.
UTHorsey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower regularly. That's my advice.
wakemeuptoday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This seems simple but conform to what society is then dictating as attractive. Thin and healthy is in, for example.
muesli_snipes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't wait till next summer when being a fat dirty piece of shit is hip and trendy
wakemeuptoday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, man. Me too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you.
Why pretend things and read up tricks on the internet when you want to find someone that likes you the way you are.
JCasella ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence is always sexy
xXD3aTh_StR0K3Xx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be an asshole to people. Even if it's someone you don't particullary like. Being nice to someone can help you, and others, in a major way. Maybe not in the present. But maybe later in life. Maybe something you said to someone helped them out of a really rough patch in their life.
Magdakami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love yourself!
Loftus189 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From personal experience i tend to go with Neneh Cherry on this one:
'Looking good's a state of mind'
Sittinginchairs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fashion sense. I know it's difficult to learn if you don't have an innate sense for it, but it's more than worth doing.
I'm an okay looking guy, but once I finally caved in to my sister's entreaties and allowed them to help me with my wardrobe, things improved dramatically. I'm not saying I was suddenly outgoing and confident, but things slowly changed.
As a drastic example, if a man wearing a dirty trench coat and white sneakers smiles at a woman, it's kinda rapey. But if the same man was wearing a decent looking pea coat, tan couderoy pants, and a good looking burberry scarf, there's a good chance she'll smile back.
Adam9172 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a god damn book sometime. If nothing else, it'll keep your grey matter ticking along as you connect the dots in a story and it's also fun to analyse what characters may do next.
Drink water, lots of water, cut right down on the energy drinks.
Trim your beard if you have a messy head of hair, but let it go if you have a neat haircut recently (obvious exception is when you have an interview, make sure it's all tidyish. Ask a friend/family/random if you're unsure what to do.).
Cut back on non essential spending as well - I used to drink two bottles of beer every night after work (usually with dinner), now I tend to drink one every few days as a treat after a harsh day. My brother did the same with chocolate as well, and now we're both noticing our skin looks healthier by a wide margain. Everyhing in proportion, friends!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress to impress. Seriously.
drmtc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clip your nails. My mom always told me unclipped nails are a huge turn off for girls.
ajax_on_rye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me? Keep quiet and really, really don't tell jokes.
LyraOfOxford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit! You can hide the things you don't like about your body without wearing overwhelming clothes. Tailored clothes look polished and snazzy.
chr1574 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this. Proper fitting clothing makes a huge difference, ESPECIALLY if you are slightly overweight or don't have a perfect body. People always think the opposite, that if they don't have a good body, then what's the point, but it makes a huge difference.
onlysane1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basic hygiene and grooming. Shower regularly (duh). Use deodorant (double duh). Trim your nails. Wear clean clothes. Get a nice haircut, and try out getting your eyebrows waxed (even if you're a guy; it makes a big difference)
viaminorviator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For chicks:
LEARN HOW TO APPLY MAKEUP. Youtube is an invaluable resource.
Just say no to tattooed eyeliner.
If you don't have that much eyebrow, stop trying to make it happen, Gretchen.
ZKXX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ask stupid questions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this has already been posted or not, but I'd like to mention the glow of a good night's sleep. Get it if you can.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, and well taken care of nails.
SirChoGath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Photoshop
uberpower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For 99% of you bearders: You can never rock a beard as well as you think you can. Ever.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's this website that will tell you:
https://faces.ethz.ch/
CockMaster6900 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you're talking to someone you're interested in, think sexy thoughts.
RONALDROGAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hit the gym. Get some sleep. Quit being a bum.
beeeel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Press ups and planks, every day when you get up and before you go to bed.
reallivenerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put a bag over my head. Just don't rock it in convenience stores and banks.
FaeLLe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Win the Euro lottery
ripley853 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop eating to get skinny
attiqe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be Smile and Be Quite
Dorko001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have good posture.
smilessoldseperately ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear properly fitted clothes.
daftmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch this video. Do it.
Xifar_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One word: Behave.
JudgegGregMathls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally, I think the biggest part of "becoming" more attractive, at least physically was working out. Once I became fit, everything else that people have mentioned work even better in making you more attractive. I was a chubby dude when I went to college, but now I'd say I'm pretty muscular now (been 5+ years of smart, intense working out) and that has been a big part in the boost of my attractiveness, on top of the other things I've done. But you don't have to be a fitness model or anything, simply working out and having a slimmer body helps.
Biggest small things I've done:
Messing with my hair (growing it longer, shorter etc.). Ultimately finding a haircut that suited my face with the help of the internet.
Better FITTING clothes. Simply having expensive name brand clothes will not make you look better.
Teeth whitening strips (seriously, I didn't realize how yellow my teeth had gotten from years of drinking black coffee.)
If you solely want to improve physical attractiveness, I've found that these small things dramatically improved me. Again, once I started working out consistently and made progress, every other thing in terms of improving attractiveness became easier, both physically and mentally. So the simplest thing you can do to make yourself more attractive is work out and maintain a pretty healthy diet.
samdunkthefunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, not a big old grin, but generally present a sunny disposition where appropriate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just smile!!!!
2074red2074 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. Seriously, that does a lot for your posture, your attitude, your skin, etc.
StickyBritches15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence and good self-esteem.
clashbuster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hair.
I did the buzz cut for many years just to make showers and maintenence easier and faster.
I let it grow out just barely enough to play around with and you'de be surpriae how far a little bit of hair can take you.
I just comb it to the side a little bit and add a little scruff and it definitley makes me look a little better and a bit less like sid from toy story.
xaapje ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
become filthy rich and no1 bats a eye on how you look.
Th3MadScientist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For guys, wear a nice fitting blazer.
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Get your eyebrows threaded and/or properly shaped. Your features will be sharper just with a cleaned up brow(make sure you don't get them done thin, just shape your natural eyebrows with a slight arch, nothing is worse than over tweezing those brows!)
Syq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give the other person a compliment. People love being complimented and it automatically makes you look classy af.
mattnotis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush and floss EVERY day.
NylocFang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Wear your hair down, yes, it's always easier to run errands and just tie up a pony tail, but if you just wash and blow dry your hair and where it out, it will make all the difference( you don't need to many styling products or any, if you have just naturally healthy hair)
MrSnippiest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout, eat properly, work on your hygiene, and dress nicely
Gnometard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be yourself. If you aren't yourself, then work on it.
kynect2hymn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you push your tongue behind your teeth when you smile, it helps get your mind off of trying to smile and more focusing on your tongue. Also helps you relax a little.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more, but in a genuine way. When I make eye contact with someone I just flash a quick smile and continue on with whatever I'm doing.
Smiles are extremely attractive to me and it doesn't matter what state your teeth are in or if it's crooked or awkward. A genuine smile is always nice
DatBowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting my eyebrows done. Also I'm a guy
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Accessories are your friends, you could be wearing cheap clothes, but if you have a nice scarf, belt, watch, pair of earrings, sunglasses, etc..you've just elevated your look 10x. Be sure not to over do it, a statement necklace doesn't need gaudy earrings as well, pick one show stopper accessory and keep the rest minimal.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be more tactful. A co-worker constantly complains about old grudges and how the world is a shitty place for reasons that make him appear very ignorant of others and different perspectives. My other co-workers don't think highly of him.
tiffibean13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to communicate effectively.
-Speak properly, clearly, enunciate.
-Use appropriate eye contact
-acceptable levels of self disclosure
-posture & body language
You can influence others' perception of your physical attractiveness by your communication skills; i.e. more attractive if you speak well, less attractive if you speak poorly.
hexenkesse1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth.
Snootch123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident.
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Good Skin! Basic hygiene and a good moisturizer with SPF, and of course drinking lots of water should keep your skin in tip top shape. I despise the use of heavy foundations, powders, etc, all they do is make the face look cake, and they are terrible for your skin! Keep it natural and perhaps the occasional at home facial would do wonders( products like honey, argan oil, etc are great for the skin)
The_Drider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your hair! (And untangle it if it's long enough to get tangled!) Ever since I grew my hair out I've noticed I look much less like a bum if I wash my hair, untangle it properly, and then tie it back.
Techienickie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a sufferer of RBF, (resting bitch face) I had to teach myself how NOT to frown when my face is relaxed.
I've been practicing this for about six months now, I'm surprised how my coworkers are nicer to me. I think it's helping my face age a little better also.
3tree6six0ti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheesy but be yourself, seriously it's the best thing you can do
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure your clothes are not wrinkly. Either lay them out, hang them up on hangers right after they come out the dryer, or iron them a bit before putting them on. Yes, even the T-shirts. Guys, take the extra moment to fold your pants properly. People instantly look more put together when their clothes are neat. And it makes them more attractive. They don't even have to be fancy clothes. But even your fancy clothes can make you look like crap, if they're all wrinkled.
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: A Pair of Comfortable Heels or Wedges. Noticed how I used the word comfortable. Nothing is worse than hobbling all over town, that's not attractive, but if you can comfortable rock a pair of shoes that give you height, you'll see all sorts of looks coming your way...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take up some interesting sports. Learn a new sport every year. My new goal. Physical exercise makes you look better, you have things to look forward to, and is just awesome time to do with others. You're more attractive if you're doing fun things with someone else. Or even just talking about doing fun things.
Some suggestions:
Yoga, Skiing, Skating, Paddle Boarding, Scuba Diving, Regular Diving, Swimming, Kayaking, Rollerblading, Running, the list is endless.
Most of these are more fun when you do them with another person.
Emocmo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. Engage in conversation. Be interested. Read the newspaper, so you can have an opinion.
Of course, having millions of dollars helps. A lot.
warmhandswarmheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be needy, clingy, desperate, or annoying. Don't talk too much or follow people around or be that person that always is the first person to arrive at a party and is the last to leave. Get a life. If you are working on it and aren't quite there yet, pretend that that you do.
Jerilla2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have confidence
valwow187 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
jesuskater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence.
When im minding my own business i get tons of looks, sexy sexy ladies ill tell ya!!
The moment i get conscious of it, its over. No more sexy sexy looks
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Less Makeup is More! I've noticed, that if I do a great job with my eyeliner/mascara, I don't need to put on any other makeup besides maybe a tinted lipgloss or stain. Focus on one part of your face or go neutral throughout, I know a lot of women just over do it with the makeup, it's easy to become a walking Sephora ad...
rafaelzf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile! No one is attracted to a grumpy face
JoMich85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Good Outerwear, if you have a great coat, vest, etc., you will look more attractive, even if you're wearing something drab underneath. Invest in good quality outerwear...
smackythefrog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NSFW but it summarizes this thread pretty well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a book.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
manners maketh the man - Colin Fith, Kingsman
It's absolutely true. Impeccable manners will set you apart from 99% of the rest of humanity.
gooby091682 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
proper posture.
GenericPoster85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
Animal_shapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the gym?
kingqueefsalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be self driven
snupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Females: Clothes that fit, nothing is more attractive than seeing clothes that are too tight or waaayy to big on a person. You can be of any size, but make sure you're buying clothes that are age appropriate and fit well, a good fitting bra also makes a huge difference on how tops look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be unattractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture Posture Posture.
danegerousdane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remove excess body hair ears, nose, back etc. Take care of your breath immediately bad breath is a huge red flag period. Wear clean pressed clothes as well as clean taken care of shoes. It shows pride in your appearance. Stand up straight show some self belief and confidence for God sakes. Create a masculine jawline, if you don't have one already shave or grown a beard to mask weaker jawlines it appeals to the cave woman inside her. Don't wear to much cologne a little goes along ways the idea is to have her come close to you to have a sniff. Last but not least exercise not for her but for you.. You will look better in your clothes and it will put you miles ahead of the guys who doesn't work out especially as you age.
Chaunsey_Wansi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bathe.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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buttputt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you from /r/SubredditSimulator?
Rectal_Coitus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what you mean by simple. For me it's said simply but can be hard.
Eat right, exercise at least a little, just generally care about yourself and your body. Seriously if a person can't do that they become a lot less attractive
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout.
avidworks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop using $2 hair gel from Wal-Mart and invest in a quality hair product. Seriously, just stop.
cmac2992 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture
galbraith12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get your teeth fixed
iamsuprmn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Win the lottery
I_Are_Human7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have confidence
sonic1992 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Shallowness
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man.
deeeeeeeeee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile a lot.
Fresno-bob5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1 : Be provocative.
Step 2 : Be organised.
Oh wait no that's pools of blood in your stomach... Just wing it I guess.
EatYourCheckers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your hands away from your face.
If you are prone to bite your nails or mess with your hair, you look squirrelly and are probably hunched over.
LaLeeBird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Expensive cologne. The kind with added hormones
Tindron8873 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower
lameroni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dem eyebrows
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I often work out before work, usually after riding to training or the gym and then to work. I'll always shower before work but I can definitely see the difference between doing my hair properly and moisturizing my face (tend to dry out after showers) and not doing that. Can wear the exact same thing but I'll look very different.
sarudesu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great smile, Clean appearance, and confidence.. Makeup? sure, that will make girls prettier.. but there is DEFINITELY more attraction to people who are confident, and smile.
tobeatornottobeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time this is asked, good posture seems to top the list.
SmacksDaBooty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smiling is a huge one for me. I used to be straight-faced and monotone in highschool. I never realized it made me look like an angry person. A girl told me I had a great smile and to use it more one day. So I tried to start smiling more and use more enthusiasm in my voice. Definitely opened a lot of doors for me.
einchi29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women: go for a bra fitting. 4/5 women wear the wrong sized bra. The proper bra will improve your posture, lift those suckers up, and give you confidence.
dMarrs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy clothes that fit. Bathe. Seriously,you can't always tell how ripe you are.
2cartalkers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use lipstick and put smiley faces on your elbows.
Jellooooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For women, I think eye makeup does wonders.
Brooklynspartan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grow a neat beard
BigBlackFriday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to do my hair every morning. try to. It's short and only takes about a minute.
Hamad_Senpai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Smell better. Shower more often than you think. Put on nice perfume, people get attracted to perfumes with mild yet strong smell, but not something like an "Oud" or something like a strong Perfumes. Somewhere in the between like a Bulvgari in Black (For Men) Expensive perfumes, are not always the best, neither the cheap ones.
EDIT: An advice for all genders, not just males, but a rule of thumb for all people to smell better. Yes, the images included are for Men, because I'm a male.
JohnReiki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hygiene. it goes a long way.
LordOfThePC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make one eyebrow into two. Lose weight. Good hygene. Smile.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave your facial hair if you don't want to groom it. If you want a mustache, beard, etc. then you absolutely have to groom it to look good and not look like a basement dweller.
AnnoiaCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good nail hygiene. This goes for both men and women.
You don't need to have fake nails or to paint them up. Just keep them clean, give them a trim every now and then, and don't bite them.
Also keep toenails trimmed, seeing somebody's long crocked toenails is a sure fire turnoff.
Spampyp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get whoever is looking at you drunk
itchy_ankles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't fart in confined spaces
CaliforniaQT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pluck your eyebrows!
sloppymcgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's some cool research going on about smell and memory. I can still remember my ex gfs perfume from high-school, which was a long, long time ago. So invest in some classy cologne.
JasonOnTheBeach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One Word. Confidence
footlesszak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work on your posture
valenciansun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress for fit. Everything else is secondary.
Tinfed47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sit up straight, shoulders back, smile!
KD729 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture. Standing and sitting up straight as well as keeping your chin held up.
mildmannered_janitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bag. Head.
BalletBologna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the gym. Don't eat shit food. Sleep a lot.
Falstaffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hack Zurich University's website.
itscliche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude here. Set aside an hour or so to groom yourself.
I find it best to set up a weekly "maintenance" schedule, I do mine on Sundays. Trim or shave any body hair you wanna keep in line, do a facial masque (if you're feeling fancy โ shoutout to /r/skincareaddiction), give your teeth a good brush, floss, and mouth wash. Have a nice relaxing shower, and go about your day. You can add as many steps as you want (my weekly schedule takes me just over an hour, lol.)
I don't dread the times I go to do it (like most people), because it's "me" time. I bump some music in the washroom and just have at it. I don't have to worry about looking like a bum at all throughout the week, and my SO appreciates that I take care of myself. Taking pride and being confident in how you present yourself is extremely important in life, and a small amount of grooming really goes a long way. Especially as a guy.
Edit: Grammar/Syntax.
KousKous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture and choosing clothing that fits your body.
tkoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man, get and maintain a good haircut.
blue_27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hit the gym on a regular and consistent basis. Get a personal shopper, if you don't know how to dress. And ... stand/sit up straight!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has come to my attention, that I'm unattractive.
saanis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture posture posture
neoballoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dressing well. Most of you have a horrible fashion sense.
Chiscuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do your hair
MistalX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Ty199 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pluck that unibrow. Don't look so serious. Put some lip-chap on, especially in the winter. If you cant grow proper facial hair get rid of it.
Anyways wtf do i know I have been single for over a year.
blackfish_xx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tweeze your eyebrows. such a small thing that makes a huge difference.
duhizy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To not take rejection poorly.
I'm taking someone else's metaphor from the socialskills subreddit, the jist of it is that you need to think of yourself as someone giving out cookies. Maybe, you as a person, are an oatmeal raisin cookie, not everyone likes oatmeal raisin cookies, maybe someone tells you that they prefer peanut butter chocolate cookies but may, at a later date, decide that they want an oatmeal raisin cookie. The point is, you have no idea, you have to ask everyone if they want a cookie because you don't know what their preferences are, you also cannot be offended that someone would prefer a chocolate chip cookie because you know that chocolate chip cookies are awesome in their own right.
soul_of_shark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
frickshun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For a guy....give a slight shit about your appearance. But don't act like you give a shit if anyone notices.
Meester_Tweester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read How to Win Friends and Influence People.
ay-em-vee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be aware of a resting bitch face. My brother told me when I was in my early teens that I looked angry all the time. I was angry for a while but then it made me look in the mirror a little more and practice a not so bitchy pleasant face for when I care what people think about my appearance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
be polite to the people around you.
this includes your bartenders, servers, common people on the street.
be kind and don't reject anyone who tries to open up an honest dialogue.
being a typical douchebag works only to impress other douchebags.
being polite shows that you have manners and may even trick people into thinking you have morals and feelings.
urbredd14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be genuine and be your most Positive self, not meaning unreleastic
EX1500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop acting like an entitled asshole.
SerHerpDerp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For guys: get your eyebrows shaped. I mean this applies to girls as well, but this comment is especially directed at men because there's still some masculinity bullshit hang ups on getting your brows threaded or waxed professionally. It will change the look of your entire face, plus it lasts longer than shaving and look better than doing it yourself.
Elusive-Overlord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your wearing a polo shirt, don't pop your collar...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Improve your posture. Look around you. There are people who aren't particularly attractive that you are drawn to because they stand and sit up straight.
kentathon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clean clothes and use deodorant.
I would spend a day next to a weird creepy person who smelled okay than spend ten minutes beside a model who smells like ass.
jacove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Frameless glasses! i just bought glasses that don't have a frame around the lenses, for the first time. GF says it looks much more attractive
HolyMollyGodBless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyebrows. Just separate them and it works wonders.
dudewhoisnotfunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a good haircut
LUClEN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whiten your teeth. It's surprising how many people notice my teeth.
camerajunkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygiene seems to be very key. I know folks that aren't that good looking win in life because of this.
**edit- washing your smelly bits is key to hitting some sexy persons bits.
ingridelena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn the basics of accessorizing and color. I hear so many (lazy and uninformed) people say they cant be bothered with fashion because they want to be confortable, but what they dont realize is that fashion and comfort are not mutually exclusive. I always look put together and stylish, and get compliments everywhere I go, even if I just threw something on to run to the store. A long pendant, some boot socks/cuffs, hats, knit headwear, circle scarves, a printed cardigan or a suede vest are really easy ways to dress up a t-shirt and jeans or a tunic and leggings. If you wear all black all the time, mix it up with any of those items in pretty much any other color (oxblood is a great color for winter, for example), and remember that your purse/jacket/boots doesn't have to be black too.
swollennode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout. You don't have to be a gym rat or anything, but having a semi-toned body is better than a flappy body.
Wear fitted clothes. Unless you're a girl, don't wear skin-tight shit. Wear non-baggy clothes. Wear the right size.
Smile.
lazyvegetarians ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A face transplant
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exercise regularly
warpus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe rough, but hang out with people uglier than you. You won't be any more attractive, but others' perception of your attractiveness will be slightly distorted.
Code347 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't jerk off on public transportation.
olov244 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower, wear clean clothes that fit, and stay groomed with neat hair
plasticenewitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vigorous exercise.
hsfrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Piercings, tattoos, partially shaved head.
At least a lot of people seem to think so.
biscaya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be passionate about something in life that doesn't take money or upward mobility to achieve. Make the best of what you have, respect other people, especially your elders, say please and thank you. Have a genuine smile, be nice to folks in the service industry. Did I mention how attractive it is to volunteer your free time to something you care about.
monkey_spanx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
personal hygiene - how is this not at the top. . . .
coltonrice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk with confidence and look people in the eye while talking, it goes a long way.
productionshooter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
papa420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: People looking for one small thing to make them attractive
SenoraRamos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth! Wear deodorant, apply liberally. Take frequent showers. Wear clothes fitted to your body. It does not need to be skintight, but it should not be extremely baggy.
drobbins1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maintain good posture! Can be a task but does wonders with how you are initially perceived
lookahookah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cologne
Treesnrrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
whiten your teeth, lift weights, clean and clip your nails regularly
if girl learn a simple no makeup makeup routine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rH0Kg49atM
Man- nails short, frequent hair cuts, trimmed beard or shaven
kunuismyhawaiianname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture
Bithron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of your skin. Even a simple moisturizer you get at the drug store every morning will make all the difference. Your skin will be in great shape, you won't show your age and you'll feel cleaner.
JC_Larkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good!! That improves how attractive you are dramatically.
jibber-jabber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use your brain and put together a very simple workout routine. It doesn't need to be complicated or elaborate. I mean basic is fine. Pushups, pullups, rows, squats and situps 3 times a week. It will take less than 45 minutes, you will need minimal equipment, and your confidence and body will begin to take a shape you have never known.
HuckleberrySlim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress well.
duffletruffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wipe my butt
bakerr22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being passionate about something you love and get excited while you talk about it. Chicks love that
IDontMindGambling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've found the easiest way to become more attractive is to surround yourself by ugly people. I've often enjoyed days of high self esteem when hanging out with my uglier guy friends. I feel and look like a male underwear supermodel.
BeerPowered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have ugly friends, it doesn't work. They're ugly to the point where they simply repel females, but that doesn't even matter because they're fucking awesome people, they are so awesome, that I spend all of the time drinking and talking with them and forget about getting pussy.
IDontMindGambling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Completely get it. My friends are my friends, ugly or not, but it helps Makes me look a little better in pictures. They are always asked, who's that handsome big guy? And that just makes my head swell!
BeerPowered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'm not a pretty rose by far anyway, but when I'm with my friends, I turn drunk and even uglier, and I forget about pretending to be attractive, because bros b4 hoes. I only receive attention from opposite sex when I'm alone, because only then it's possible to talk to me, but if I meet my friend, goodbye sweet words, we HAVE to talk about that random time we got drunk seven years ago I just remembered right now.
DocFail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go back in time and choose new parents.
Arowelf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find being yourself is one of the most attractive things. And by that I mean, the way you are with close friends.
papawhacked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of your teeth!
thr33m0jo3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't smell bad , I can't hold a conversation with someone who smells bad, and if you smell particularly good , I will want to hold a conversation with you.
Kittykat_brownie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't talk shit about people. I find myself less attracted to my friends when I hear them talk shit, especially nonsense about the way people look.
rock_hard_member ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_wH9tlRI7w
DALinProgress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile and be courteous, even to strangers. Goes such a long way.
OzzyF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn how to use a straight blade to line up your facial hair.
ruinyourjokes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence. Kids love confidence.
F4rsight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture
TheUkraineTrain2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence is key.
lobstertraper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell really good
wet_willie3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GROOM. its that simple. wild eyebrows and beards show that you take no care in your appearance.
Ifureadthisyoulldie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get rich.
MaiLoveMae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking care of yourself. When you're more confident, you appear more attractive.
c00kies44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For a guy, your best bet is being tall. If you can't be tall, be average height. If you can't be either, move to somewhere where girls are more accepting of height. After this you can do all the other things and actually have them matter.
ShamefulGamerBJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't you think if I knew I'd do it???
APairofDocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1) Shave 2) Work out for just like 20 minutes even a day. Like, you don't have to go all out. Even just lifting a dumb-bell for 20-30 minutes every couple of days will get you some compliments. Of course ideally if you have a gym membership you should work out properly but as far as simple things go that's pretty simple. 3) Get a haircut. A good one. 4) For men: Women are more likely to find you attractive if you don't smile. It is weird but apparently there is something that women like about that according to experts. 5) Wear a suit or a button-up and pants. Make it look like you tried to pick out your clothes this morning.
kilokalai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simply improve your body's profile. People do not understand the power of what a good profile does (front, back, and sides).
Jah_Man_Mulcahey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile often.
parkertr2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carry a fat wallet.
reddit-yes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be Honest, people can see through your Bullshit. *cough Google cough
cinta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a shower ya filthy animal
michalski3637 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good
NXgold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a good, cool, edgy hairstyle.
tedave123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
BlotOutTheSun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture.
Having nice posture instantly knocks you up one point on the 10 scale. There is a reason high-heels are hot, they demand posture.
whowantscake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear a money suit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was once in love with a man, but it was impossible to get him to brush his teeth and clean his ears on a regular basis.
antiy4ho0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iron your god damn clothes and hang your clothes up.
Whalers7997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. Get a hobby. Have a passion in life. Be funny. Have interesting and fun dates. Guys forget that just going out to a bar is boring to a girl. If there's a good discussion or a bar game (I.E. Trivia, shuffle board, air hockey), attraction will rise.
foxymoron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Impeccable hygiene.
ptonca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower... please
AnastasiaThinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
excellentposturealways
alittlebitmoonstruck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your sleeves.
Shirtless_Volleyball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find some clothes that actually fit your body type. I used to really not care at all about how I dressed. Then a gf of mine introduced me to J Crew and showed me how to actually "make myself look put together." It was amazing how wearing clothes that fit WELL can make you go from looking like a 21 year old burnout to a professional looking adult male.
Morceman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have acne problems, one thing that is amazingly easy and helpful is washing or changing your bedding weekly. If you have clean sheets and pillows, that's less oils ruminating all over your body.
bradbrookequincy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim nose hair, ear hair and eyebrows
Socrasteez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. People are generally more attracted to someone who looks happy.
Celui-the-Maggot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sleep, smile, brush your teeth.
cleanout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your hands and nails looking clean. I'm not talking about manicures, but at the very least there shouldn't be any gunk under your nails. Also, moisturize them hands... nothing worse than rhino hands!
Aeri73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
have a decent photographer take your profile picture
Darkperl_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good. I can't tell you how many times people have told me that I smell good just becuase I wear a little bit of nice cologne.
One of the first things I notice about a girl is when they smell good. That's one of my biggest turn ons (not sexually necessarily) and it makes a big difference on attractiveness
txroller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
confidence
Toparov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Learn a romance language, women (and men) love that, It's not incredibly simple but if you devote half an hour to it a day (say during your commute to work rather than listening to music) and you will be conversant in a year.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush you teeth and smile.
mrtatum18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smell good and have good eyebrows, like, both genders. it makes a difference, trust me
MorphingShadows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking a bath.
Tronaldrump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good
I_Photoshop_Movies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a guy. Use some hair product. Using hair product doesn't mean like a Jersey Shore gel douche hair. Maybe 80% of the celebrities you see use some kind of product in their hair. And hair product doesn't mean gel. Get some wax or pomade. Too many decent looking guys mess up because their hair looks like a dried old birds nest without style.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, don't talk so much that the tiny bit of spit on your lips turns into a little white booger I can't stop staring at.
SIC_redditcruiser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop putting your hands in your pockets.
If you're a man work on lowering your voice so that when you plug your nose or when you talk, you sound essentially the same.
Stop having closed off body language and open up (for example: don't cross your arms).
Also check to see if you have black heads in your ears and if so get rid of them.
hefner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT I learned how to walk
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a better paying job.
CCSaar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
People always talk about losing weight and taking in less calories on these threads, but sometimes the opposite might be just right for you.
I'm male, always been super skinny. Skinny fit had a time and a place in my teens, but now it just makes me look like a toothpick, even with regularly working out.
Then I started cooking meals twice as big as I thought I'd need and actually eating it all. Life is busier now and I have much less time to work out, but I looked in the mirror the other day and actually thought, "Damn, I've filled out and look pretty good!"
So, eat healthy, but for goodness sake EAT. If you're naturally a stick like me, listen to your body and eat until you're full.
This is likely advice for a minority, but it sure helped me.
(And drink water, lots of water. Like, more water than you think you need. Down your stomach in motherfuckin' water.)
EDIT: Also you'll feel a lot more energetic if you've got a full stomach of (healthy) food!
Basic_Becky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile and direct eye contact when speaking to someone.
ekotafizz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile (=
tourRe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One word... confidence!
yesshelifts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are a man, do some research and find a good cologne. Having a nice scent does all sorts of things to the memory and pleasure centers of a woman's brain.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tanning is definitely not a way to be more attractive...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And what's wrong with that? I'm very pale, I don't care. Tanning is harmful, and only trendy. People usually look best with natural sun exposure, and a good skincare routine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's always products which can gradually tan you. But tanning is bad for you, and so not worth it. Period.
bchmbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a Passion for something! There is someone out there who gets braingasms over the same thing
Describe a dish just right and you can take a foodies breath away :P
superminhminh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear a suit
takinablumpkin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't look for the easy way out.
Cracked_Sucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus christ this thread is pig vomit.
thetunasalad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A good smile. I might talk to a lot of women in a day but the one stuck to my mind the most was the one that got a beautiful smile.
QumOnQomand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sit up!
pinappleramble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moisturise with the correct moisturiser. I thought I had oily skin because I had spots, found out I wasn't, bought a cheap dry skin one and it made such a difference. My skin evened out, no flaking or spots. I don't wear make u to work so this made me look better everyday without changing much at all
Klamters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have confidence in yourself.
Hayleigh_Alexandra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have self confidence
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence!
Corzaa31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Inb4 "Be Passionate about something."
FantasticMrsFx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence
BDou408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A more outgoing personality goes a Looong way...unfortunately it doesn't come naturally for some of us. Fake it till you make it and who knows your SO might actually like the real you just talk and get yourself out there.
thing03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure how well this fits into your setting, but for me just being more confident really goes a long way.
I'm currently a Senior in High school and before 10th grade I was a total loser. I was a really late bloomer so I was short af and simply not confident in anything I do. Basically nobody wanted anything to do with me.
Since then, just being more confident really improved my life in general. After "pretending" for a while it really just game naturally after that. Some people call me "arrogant" and "cocky", but I just call them "jealous".
Oh, and being tall helps. A lot.
sidnie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop swearing in public for fucks sake! You sound like an asshole!
GrentrollEU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of your skin moisturise everyday!
analogkid1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear something other than sneakers.
magnetowasright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a better human being.
Kroknik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late to the party...I have noticed not giving a fuck usually works the best.
macfoshizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wear sunglasses
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be attractive.
Don't be unattractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little cologne goes a long way. Don't drown yourself in cologne, just spray some on your wrists and dab it on to your other wrist, neck and chest; Wear fitted clothes, I know it's harder for us skinnier guys but you just have to look; Every man should also have an analog watch; Don't be afraid to wear color, shop with someone so they can tell you if a certain color suits you; When speaking to someone make eye contact, not crazy stares but just enough to show someone you're engaged in the conversation. Smiling and laughing at the appropriate time is good as well; Most importantly carry yourself with confidence, it doesn't matter how nice you dress or anything if you don't look confident. Hell, you don't even have to do much but be hygienic and confident, it really changes how people look at you.
banginbowties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lotion. Too many people with dry cracked feet, elbows, knuckles, knees, etc. Simple, easy, and effective.
Kaycee_Rosenfall_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't wear too much makeup doing trivial things like going to school or going to the store. It's great if just a little the little things like concealer, eyeliner, lip...anything but piling it on and wearing, eyeshadow,eyeliner,foundations,concealer, lipstick is just a bit much. Many people don't realize this and try to keep up with famous figures and how they look on instagram post but there isn't anything wrong with looking normal.
nikkenji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink lots of water because it's good for your skin.
Shower with soap. Don't just let the water hit you.
Wear clothes that fit.
Don't be an asshole.
Flipwidget2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence. You don't need to have your whole life figured out or know what you're doing next, but just be confident about who you are in the moment and it's the most attractive thing ever.
zilverulquiorra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep good posture.
intrinsicdisorder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gseventeen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Throw a sport jacket on over it.
Redpythongoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One that's fit well. GREAT advice sir
Raychill92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:28 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a boss ass bitch. Be confident!
teekayaus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tame those eyebrows! Regardless of gender those super bushy brows or even the mono is just not that great a look. Look up some tutorials on youtube and just pluck a few hairs here and there to neaten up a bit until you get adjusted to styling them. You would be surprised the difference it makes when they are just that little bit neater.
SinbadKushOG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to a different country
jcatleather ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a jerk.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gentlemen, gel your eyebrows. It's attractive. Also, get manicures, even if it's just occasionally. If you think they're too expensive, do your own.
notagangsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush, floss, and whiten your teeth. Seriously, it can save or ruin someone's appearance.
prolapsingpotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basic hygiene. Walk with confidence, don't shuffle your feet.
DragonflyRed412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop drenching yourself in perfume / cologne. A little is fine. But, bathing in it before leaving the house is a good way to have people moving away from you instead of toward you.
Very_Toxic_Person ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Mandalorian_Hippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carry yourself with confidence, even if you don't really feel that way in the inside. It will change how people deal with you, and you will start to become truly more confident.
bjritter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that actually fit.
Poopickle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower! And trim toe nails!
SunriseSurprise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not easy, but it's simple: lose weight, tubby.
Source: Am fat, know I've had more attractive days in the past as a skinnier dude and will get back there, but will not live in fantasy land thinking I'm hot shit til I'm back there.
bbrundage07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight
Nuthinbutbootson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
gooch203 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile
Maelysium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hahahahahah..... nothing can fix this face, fugly mofo that I am cries
BRogMOg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
take a shower
EddieWattz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your shoes clean and IRON YOUR CLOTHES! Skip the dryer and get a really nice, quality, self cleaning iron by Rowenta for example.
It's amazing how crisp an old t-shirt will look when it's freshly ironed. Seriously, the next time your out at any grocery store, just examine other people around you and pay attention to their shoes / wrinkly clothes. Just these 2 simple steps will put you ahead of 80% of the competition
1hazelfears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence is key.
forseti_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop smoking.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make exercise a habit. Something small like 10 push-ups a day can add up over even just a week or so.
wifemejonsnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture.
TheYoungGriffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man, you'd be amazed at the difference a little tan can make. Instant compliments along the lines of "you look really good today, not sure what it is."
IcanCrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight / have good posture
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise.
Jr81rox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a cock bag
Enterland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gain some weight. I'm one of those people with high metabolism and can't gain weight even if I eat a lot. If only I was more meaty instead of looking like a skeleton.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygiene
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Exercise. Drink enough water. Have a hobby you're passionate about
boomcgoowoohoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
Pinho1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
look up seriously, just dont let your eyes be around the floor most of the time
X-Yz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good personal hygiene or bust
Cchristian457 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think better of yourself. In order for other people to find you attractive you must first find yourself attractive. Just think more positive about things in your life. People love seeing people who are genuinely happy about their lives.
TheSanityInspector ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight, don't slouch.
JashDreamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
goood-vibrations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always smell good! Some perfume/cologne goes a long way
chrisbrooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suck it in
brainwise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile often. Wear clean, ironed clothes and clean tidy shoes - they don't have to be expensive but just cared for. Clean and cared for hair. Clean teeth. Take pride in your appearance. Be pleasant to people and ask about them, and truly listen to their response. Don't be a hater/complainer; so unattractive! Walk with head up and shoulders back. Shake hands when meeting new people (male or female) with a firm handshake and a smile. Use your manners! Take responsibility for yourself, your actions and your choices in this world; don't blame others. If you don't like something in your life change it. Make the most of yourself and your life, in interested and curious in the world and others.
lynnspiracy-theories ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good hygiene. Good hygiene. Good hygiene. Did I say good hygiene?
Extreme_Adventurer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good
Lraiolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care if yourself. brush your teeth everyday, shower, brush your hair, focus on your hygiene. Even my bestfriends don't brush their teeth everyday, or shower everyday. Because of this they feel extremely insecure about it and don't try talking to women as much. When they do it's the first things they think women will notice. Just by taking care of yourself you instantly become more approachable, and eventually will make you feel more attractive.
I hope this actually made sense to someone, or even helped them out.
blahblahangel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave pubes xD
Church_Wine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the gym
TWeis2195 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your head up and work on your posture.
pineappletits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have clean-looking, white-ish teeth. One of the first things I'll notice about a person is their teeth, and having a dirty or bad set can instantly take someone down 4 points
MWcrazyhorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get in shape. We've got millions of years of evolution behind us. Basicaly anyone that is in shape is more or less attractive to the opposite sex. If you're clean and not over or underweight you're attractive. You might not win a beauty pageant, but you should be fine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut your toenails
Throwawayfabric247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never talk bad about someone even if they suck. Also, posture, and smile..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is gonna get buried, but whenever I meet a humble person I instantly respect them and find them likable.
OsoVerde1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wash your face. It works just as well as acne cream if you just wash your face with soap and water everyday. Also posture invokes confidence. Which is hot.
awesome357 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. For nothing else than to make people wonder what you are smiling about. I'm always more attracted to people with a smile then someone who looks pissed off or bored, even if its not true to how they feel.
unattendedapache ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well fitted clothes, good quality shoes, and well groomed. I think what you wear and how you keep your hair are all personal preference, and I'm not trying to say that you have to get the best exclusive luxury brands or the popular brands. The important thing is you come across neat and tidy.
sasquachtaclops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stand up straight and dont slouch, it shows more confidence and in-turn will make you more attractive
Chaosfreak610 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool.
TheGogglesD0Nothing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
work out. Keep good hygiene. This means hair is clean and styled. Clothes need to fit and be clean. Don't keep large items in your front pockets. Floss! Brush twice a day for 2-3 minutes.
Secretmilk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do not go to extremes when someones trying to make a point that's a huge turn off.
I saw a comment on this thread that said "If you don't like something at least see the appeal in it. People hate it when you blatantly hate something without giving it a chance." Which I totally agree with so, I told my friends and then my friend said "i'm still never trying broccoli and what about gang rape, or murder!!"
SenatorMeathooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dangly earrings.
Qualkore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be selfish. Wether you are in a relationship or not. Nothing turns the other away faster than selfishness.
Lululemonparty_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look people in the eye, put your phone away, don't walk and text.
Taminella_Grinderfal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:32 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your post makes me terribly sad. It seems to be a "self fulfilling prophecy" when you are in the negative, more negative things happen. I'm sure you've heard all the advice in the world about depression and seeking treatment, so I won't bother with that. The only thing I can offer is that there is a random internet stranger who managed to overcome an early life of negatives that read your post and wishes they had some magical advice that would turn your life around.
Nutcup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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ANotSoSeriousGamer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I love you instead?
HateCopyPastComments ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all visual stuff but I hate dumb asses. A smart girl makes me excited, a dumb girl makes me instantly turned off and annoyed.
Delilahhaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TheBluePenguin9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be born ugly.
LeifEriksonisawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I lift heavy objects, then put them back down again. Repeat.
mishaxz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put lifts in your shoes lol
Revenant10-15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence. Holy shit. Confidence.
I was always a "Beta" growing up. In high school, I was in marching band. When I wasn't doing marching band, I was doing tech-support for the school. Fat, nerdy...my wardrobe consisted mostly of apparel obtained or won at big LAN events (I wore a Half-Life t-shirt twice or thrice a week.)
Post high-school I studied engineering, and then criminal justice. Several life experiences steered me towards a career in law enforcement.
Went to an 18-week basic training academy. 3 months field training. Then on the street.
All of a sudden, I found myself receiving more female attention than I knew what to do with. Dates came easy, though the women were always fairly shallow or dumb. Luckily I ended up with a gal that knows that inside I'm still a nerd, but she also respects what I do. She obliterated me in Quake 3 last night. I've never been more turned on.
What I realize, though, is that what I have now that I didn't have before was confidence. My uniform and my presence exude confidence. I have to appear confident, otherwise some of the folks I deal with will see weakness and take advantage of it. I learned that the best way to avoid a violent confrontation is to put forth the visage that I'm bad as hell. Even if I'm not that great a fighter (I'm not) and even if I'm not an alpha male, I have to appear as such. Somehow, that level of apparent confidence is incredibly attractive.
So...I dunno. Enlist in the military, or the national guard, or the reserves. Go fight pirates or something. Or just learn to be more confident and to project that confidence. Men and women alike respect that.
bobcats12345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People look way better with good posture. Being a girl who's almost 5'9, I always hated being tall but my grandma always told me to keep my shoulders back. I hate when guys especially slouch. Why tf are you trying to be shorter???
developingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you bobcats12345, you explained the importance of good posture really well. Thank you.
Notlonganymore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture. Posture. Posture. I used to think it would make me look silly to always stand straight, I get an insane amounts of compliments on my posture and walk.
TeddyCJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Besides the usual: shower, deodorant, clip nails, dress accordingly (dress for the girl you are trying to attract), and workout (not big muscle man - but simply just be healthy)....... You should also, read up on current events, smile, make jokes, listen (don't just talk - personal experience of violating this), open up and be yourself. Attraction has layers: physical, relational, and emotional. If you try to brush up on all, you will start to see attention, and probably a better quality of life.
Syini666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Be someone else
MundaneAsparagus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a passion. It doesn't matter how simple or benign it might be. Having a passion shows you are capable of being passionate.
SknyWoolyGrl93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maintain eye contact during conversation. I don't mean stare them to death! It will make the person feel you're more invested in what they are saying if you do that.
LinksMilkBottle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ladies: LEARN HOW TO APPLY MAKEUP.
I'm not talking full glam. I'm talking simple things like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADmK3dILwk0
Or this video if you have a darker complexion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AJNMSkvrUg
mtweiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand tall/simple posture correction.
d3jake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard proper grooming is important: Properly trimmed/shaved. Recently washed clothes, well fitting.
dandiddlydoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind.
pakepake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, use eye contact, stand up straight. Oh Lord...I'm my Mother.
Blackberry3point14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit you
IAmNail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plastic Surgery
Milky_Elephant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence in yourself
davebawx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're balding bad enough then just shave your head. You'll look so much cleaner, and younger too.
Ferfrendongles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm so late to the party, and almost everyone here has been so genuine and awesome, but I'm gonna tell you some tricky tricks.
I work in an industry with a lot of turnover, and a looot of people that I have to get along with, so I don't have a lot of time to forge bonds the good way. Instead, I use the "dog trick".
You love your dog so much because they're always so ready to celebrate, always happy to see you, and at times seem like they have a hard time containing all their love for you. You do that to people. You just remember their names (c'mon, it isn't that hard), then everytime you see them, you go "Oh! Hey, Vanessa! How are you??" all smiles and eagerness". Over time, they'll do the same to you, and without even having to understand why, you are both now trained to feel the same about each other as you do towards your dog. It's a good thing. Makes you feel like you're on the same team, kind of.
Next, (it's really easy, but hard to do right), you have the simple compliment. You need to try to see the things that you would like to be noticed, but never are, and notice them for other people. Like, at my job, my supervisor is a really badass lady; runs a tight ship and everyone's happy for the most part. So, I tell her that I think I'm lucky to work here, and that I think she does a good job. I go into a few specifics, but nothing approaching ass-kiss-zone. Fast forward a few days and a letter about management positions opening up comes through the community inbox. I say that I'm considering looking for a management position sometime in the future, and ask nonchalantly, "if you had to put why you've been successful here into one sentence, what would it be?". I'm training to manage, now, and she's been kind of mentoring me.
I use the example with my manager because it was a time when this practice netted me money, but it's invaluable with coworkers, family, pretty much anyone. I don't do it with my friends because they would think it was odd that I went from "suck a dick you son of a bitch", when asked where I want to eat dinner, to "dude, I appreciate you taking the time to ask my opinion. You're always so considerate, but I don't really have a preference tonight".
sweadle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After my last job, I put it this way: Be your own PR person. It feels disingenuous, and that a truly good worker should be seen on their own merit, but the truth is at most businesses there isn't that kind of time and context for people to get to know you much.
Be positive. Bring up problems in private, successes in public. Don't complain, don't gossip, lots of smiling and nodding even if you think someone is an idiot.
When I started thinking that I was managing the career of someone else, everything changed. It made me respect my co-workers a little less for being so shallow, but that's humans. We like to be liked, and we like positivity.
EyepleadtheFifth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good posture
Hypermeme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This seems counter intuitive but it's super useful and important.
Do not over wash.
Over washing occurs when you shampoo, shower, and whatever too often. How do you know when this has happened? When your skin and hair is chronically dry and itchy. A lot of people in the developed world take hot showers way too seriously. You don't need to shampoo everyday, you don't need to blast your body with near-scalding hot water every day. Hell, you don't even have to wash your clothes everyday. It's all one big waste of water if you do it everyday.
I used to be like this, chronically trying to keep myself clean. It was some combination of insecurity and going through a bit of a germaphobe phase. They key is to let your endogenous (you can say "natural" but endogenous is more accurate) oils stay on your skin and hair. It not only feels better but you look better too instead of like some kind of red lobster person.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how "lose weight" hasn't come up yet.
such-a-mensch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be less fat.
LuckyNickels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get enough sleep.
ArnoldSwarzepussy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maintain good posture. It makes a WORLD of a difference.
fidelkastro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women: wear heels. Even 1 inch makes a huge difference in how your calves and butt look. Yeah yeah yeah ballet flats are comfortable, and they make you look like a bow legged penguin.
Itsneil1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear deodorant.
Sete_Sois ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
get a good haircut
shavedcarrots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be sober
TheBangaroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't wear trashy pj's with ugg boots out in public.
Cephalomom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile!
Dugly_Uckling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less, smile more.
CCR_Juice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:29 on March 2, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
never let the other people see things which you are in support or negation of
Coasterman345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence. Confidence can instantly have positive effects on being more attractive. At the same time don't get all cocky and arrogant. No one likes someone who doesn't believe in theirself ever, but at the same time, no one likes someone who is too confident, that never believes they're wrong.
zaclis7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assume you are a male... this is reddit you know haha but check out primermagazine.com
It is an awesome blog with great style and life articles. The get ups alone have helped me gain some style with clothes that fit and people (not just females) take notice of when you dress better.
Also workout. Try to start simple with something like 5x5 and you'll quickly see a difference.
Lastly, sometimes you've just got to fake it till you make it.
Peteyisthebest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight & smile :D
undonehair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personal hygiene, please. Nothing ruins my focus, interest, or even simply wanting to stand near a person like a nasty funk emanating from... SOMEWHERE on them. Just... eugh.
Also toenails. Keep those fuckers short and trim, thanks. -looking at you, dude with long toenails wearing flip flops year round-
Edit: Derp grammar.
xyz_992005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
DamnedWhenIDid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
PetiePal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture. Stand up straight. Clean and tend your nails regularly. Exfoliate. Brush your teeth three times a day. Use good mouth wash. Floss. Keep your place tidy. Change your sheets every 3 weeks. Look up when you walk stop looking at the ground.
cghorse66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bathe regularly. Be nice.
sheepbassmasta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. Get ridda them zits. Don't be such a pussy, pussy. You a damn pussy.
suplexcomplex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smiling
zacree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Nobody has ever looked good with a "muffin top".
If your skin/fat spills out wider than your waistband, you need to get a size up. Get longer pants than you would, being the waist up on over your flab and belt that shit.
And for Christ's sake, wear an undershirt. If you don't have abs worth flaunting, pop an under shirt on first and tuck that thing into your pants. When you stick your arms straight up and your belly is revealed, put an undershirt on.
And also, get sleevless undershirts. A little bit of short white sleeves poking out of your top sleeves looks real bad.
Wash your razor between uses. Like use some rubbing alcohol and then rinse it with water every time you start and finish shaving. Razors hold so much bacteria and shit and you're using them on your face. If you shave often and have bad acne, this is probably why.
Have answers, not problems. In all contexts. If you made it this far in life, you can figure it out
If you're going somewhere, make sure you aren't wearing white socks when you get there. White socks stopped being okay when you turned 16 and they won't be okay until you're 61.
And be REALLY good at at least one thing. Like you should be the best you've ever heard of at at least one thing.
Confidence. Patience. Forearms
ANNND responsibility. Not just "Do what you have to do" responsibility. But if you didn't do it or you fucked it up when you did so it, step forward and take your lashes.
InquisitorDianne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seize the means of production.
HillbillyBoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seize the carp
xsprinkles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make yourself smell good, or at least not smell bad.
rainbowmerkin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have confidence. Nothing is more attractive.
lifewithlongy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Six things:
LEEVINNNN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot rich
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LEEVINNNN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No joke, some people on my campus could use this tip.
PM_ME_CUTIES_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exercise frequently
jester44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand farther away.
nextxoxexit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't become attractive. There's tricks to accentuate the good in you but ultimately yoir either ugly or not. However you can change your scent. I find allot of the time that attractive people that smell bad repulse me and lesser attractive people that smell good get more of my attention then f they just didn't have a scent at all.
So calogne or perfume, and don't go cheap either!
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SprikenZieDerp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't spend so much time on Reddit...? Actually go outside? Don't grow a neckbeard?
357Magnum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always dress at least slightly better than you have to. Don't just wear the lowest acceptable clothes. Going somewhere? How about put on some decent jeans and a button up shirt instead of looking like shit at the store in your funding pajamas or gym clothes? Your workplace is business casual? Why not throw on at least a tie at least sometimes? Tennis shoes permitted? How about some loafers instead? It will still be comfortable. You're not running, you're sitting at a fucking desk. I'm sick of hearing people cite comfort as their excuse. Nice pants are no less comfortable than dingy jeans. Dressy clothes are just as comfy as T shirts if they fit properly. And it really isn't any more expensive. No one really gives a shit about "brand." If you're concerned about a logo, you're doing it wrong.
SparklyPen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile and always think good thoughts.
gofiguree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Less is more in all things. Make up, talking, being confident etc.
funkiestj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Become rich. It worked for Heathcliff
flying_fuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't loudly brag about your farts.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
alex494 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
agumonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regular sport. You'll be more of everything. People will notice.
archeusdevine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your eyebrows. Seriously, it makes you look more groomed in general.
aliunlimited ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suck my tummy in when passing chicks
Onlyhereforthelaughs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Physical attractiveness is a less needed requirement for me. Just laughing, chatting, letting me know I exist, that's what I find attractive.
I mean, you're not likely going to get prettier, but as long as we keep laughing and talking, I'm fine.
tdb7893 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience people who are in shape, have an interesting hobby, and generally seem pretty happy have no trouble finding someone. Another bonus is that these three things are a pretty enjoyable way to live a life
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a chinless fuck. Invest in well groomed beards, eliminate neckbeard.
I also used to be fat. That problem was solved with exercise. That may sound crazy, but it is something you can do, just saying. I'd hate to be the dick that says loosing weight brings in the chicks, but it's true. Fat guys are not attractive to most attractive women. That's just reality.
And not for nothing, but the self esteem boost from getting looks makes it worth it. It's tacky, yes. But fuck it. It helps me give a shit.
Going from being a 250lb fatty neckbeard, to a 210lb muscular well-groomed man was one of the best decisions of my life. I'm not at my goal yet, I can still grab some fat on my back and stomach. But it sure as hell helps.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get plastic surgery.
peepeethumbskins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone mentioned pruning your eyebrows? I do my husband's-nothing extreme. I make sure that he has two, don't start halfway down his eyelid, and trim his errant long hairs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
surfzupp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A simple smile
Prankishbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Braces.
Drayzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight with correct posture (pull your shoulders back some, no slouching shoulder blades), eat healthy, spend some time being active, smile.
Colddeck64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be Excellent!
Seriously - nothing raises attraction more than confidence in yourself.
chelsiewoof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SMILE! :)
MarkSampson10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang out with ugly people.
Ventura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
Blackgardenia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell good
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop saying like every 2 seconds.
SN00P1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Light a cigarette and wear a leather jacket
LedGibson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smell nice. SHOWERS. Some perfume, deoderant, cologne.
microdon23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people don't bath?
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, its weird. there is this new waterfall machine that they use to wash themselves instead.
xuxulala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't slouch. People tend to think of slouching is only something you do when sitting and relaxing. But you can slouch while standing up too. Stand-slouching is the worst.
steeretchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Proper posture, good hygiene, and well fitting clothes
Sw33tbix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When speaking to other people, get them to talk about themselves, remain courteous, listen, and show insight to show you were listening. This does amazing wonders. People will perceive you as more caring and thus, attractive.
When talking to others, also show a depth of character. Show you have interests, but refer to them casually to show you have character, but that your interests don't define you. People will perceive you as interesting, but not obsessive. A good characteristic.
Take nothing to heart. You may have pride, but showing you are open to ideas and criticism shows people you are growing,mouth trying your best to understand yourself in the greater context. Insight is an attractive characteristic.
In short, try reflecting on things you consider positive/attractive characteristics in other people, and practice those traits.
Beauty and physical attraction are base instincts, but deeper attraction happens when people feel considered, cared about, and comfortable.
A lot of people put too much pressure on others to for fill a certain role for them, this manifests in "you are my entire life and reason for being", this can suffocate people. Be cool, calm and collected.
Halo909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
always have a fat and ugly friend next to you.
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just wear a shirt with gaben on it
microdon23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be born into money. Seems to make everyone more attractive, at least to the opposite sex. Which is what counts.
twcochran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Pay attention, and practice looking in the mirror the way you would look at/see a total stranger.
Edit: Also, keep your mouth shut! People who walk around with their mouths open immediately lose a good 30 or so IQ points in my initial perception... and generally prove it correct once I get to know them.
mattsprofile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diet and exercise are both pretty simple :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
IdiotsEverywhere_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put a bag on your head
Dyhard88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your damn TEETH. It's such a simple thing but it makes a big impact because your smile is the first thing most people see. Unless you have large breasts.
Seriously though......it's healthy and it makes your smile look great. You just gotta smile a bit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never lose your cool. Even when you're being tested to your limits. Don't let them see your emotions. Stay level-headed and cool.
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not let an AI judge you against a tent
interstellargalaxy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
personable smile. really let's people feel invited, and increases chances of coming off as attractive :) also manners! politeness, hard work ethic, ect.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SpyJuz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do love how this post has turned into group therapy for most of Reddit.
I'LL SEE YOU GUYS IN THERAPY
Erotic_Abe_Lincoln ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Win lotto
triplealpha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Super simple - smile. No one appreciates RBF and it makes you appear unapproachable.
seeteethree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight. Hold your head up. Posture, people.
greencribb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean nails. Irritating task but girls do take notice.
3_M4N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gym. Tan. Laundry.
... profit?
jjswibbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth and shower regurally, and make sure you scrub everything. You might smell funky and not even realize it .
Chocharoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a damn haircut!
mlunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear nice shoes and a nice watch. My dad's hot secretary told me that's what women usually look at in a first impression.
Ctrl_Shift_ZZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
few small things i'd like to add to: Dress to impress. I'm an introvert myself so i don't like to go out much, but when i do i like to dress fairly nicely; nice pair of jeans, (i like to stay away from the basic denim) i have tan, gray and dark purple jeans all straight slim fit. (not super tight like tights, but loose to be comfortable in but not too loose that it looks like you don't know your own pants size. i typically wear nice fitted button ups, and a vest over it. My personal body type is one that's kinda slim but i have a kinda beer belly, so the vest helps give the illusion that i look slimmer and fitter than i actually am. Also something that will really help that's simple BUT takes a bit of research is understanding your complimentary colors, I'm asian, as such i have naturally a yellow tone of skin so i look much better wearing cooler colors in blues and purples. People just say wear whatever color you like, but if you wanna go that extra mile, honestly wear the colors that compliment you, it makes you look MUCH more attractive. And get a hair cut, and not just ANY hair cut, don't go to some cheap salon or barber, go to someone that actually understands hair, and how it can compliment your specific facial structure and contours. this was mentioned a lot but remember to smile at anyone that looks at you, a smile just goes a long way to subconsciously portray you're a positive person, everyone likes a positive person.
Bohzee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
use body language.
facial expressions is the spice in food of your social interactions!
nycgirlfriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
leduardo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss
circa717 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
lowryder313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
brush your teeth
vashzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothing that fits and compliments your features\figure.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your words make you attractive, simple to do - no sarcasm under any circumstances, don't judge others (and there's no justification for being judgmental, you don't know their story), no put downs, and honestly, stop swearing. I'm trying to cut down on swearing but even one small 'shit' that pops into your convo changes peoples' perception of you. Your words can make you ugly quick and that's one thing anyone can change.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put on a gas mask.
SirGallade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a tent
53XYB345T ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Become a tent
four_eyes_deep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile more.
hstisalive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
grooming eyebrows... just tweezing the little outliers makes a big difference. Also dressing in flattering colours & cuts - it's worth the extra time to figure out what works and to be pickier when shopping. Don't wear clothes with logos/brands/text unless it's something that expresses something about who you are.
Player4Ruz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm seeing "take a shower" a lot here.... Do people not shower daily?
GetOffMyBus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be unattractive
AugustWombat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I take a shower.
altitudinous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile at everyone. It doesn't have to be a real smile, but believe it or not your fake smile still has a positive psychological affect on yourself too, as well as others enjoying your smile. It is exactly like saying things over and over to yourself (affirmations), your brain believes it. See also the placebo effect.
therealdanhill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand next to me.
is_the_pizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go vegan.
Sazbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be appreciative.
LeifRoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find that attractiveness is subjective, and often more related to how you act compared to how you look.
How to be a person people are capable of respecting:
Do not talk shit about those not currently present, it only serves to make you yourself look weak.
Encourage others, even when you disagree with their opinion. Unless it is of grave importance.
Be humble, show appreciation and smile. In the words of Frank Underwood, you are not entitled to anything.
Stand for something, be passionate about it, but always in a positive way. Be it a hobby, work or a general interest.
Show restraint, do not let your emotions control you. Respond instead of react.
Understand that confidence and happiness is created within yourself, not given by others.
Respect is a two way street, you have to give in order to receive. So dress appropriately, brush your teeth, make damn sure you do not smell bad, and respect your surroundings.
Understand there is no bad intention, there is not dark and light, do not disrespect A if you yourself prefer B.
The only true fool is the person with a closed mind, who thinks he has nothing left to learn. Try to learn something new every single day, and notice how much more interesting your conversations become.
Charisma is the combination of showing power and warmth.
manablight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
have a lot of money.
Scoobyblue02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always drink with your pinky out!
theDut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little Photoshop will go a long way.
Recordpace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dental hygiene, take care of those teeth. Slimy looking, bad breath, white as snow tongue complete turn off.
jilljilljillian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep more, drink less.
ViciousSnail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence.... apparently.
shockdoldman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Talk to someone with no inhibitions and be honest. My new girlfriend does this with me and it makes me have so much more comfort and confidence in our relationship. I am experience the feeling of attraction like I never imagined is possible before she talked to me for the first time.
melesana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do things you enjoy. When you feel good about your situation, your presence feels more attractive.
MadMoney512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clean, neat clothing that fits you properly. Maintain your outward appearance by keeping your hair and skin clean and styled/trimmed. Smell good, but don't over do it with cologne/perfume. Carry yourself with confidence, even when you aren't. Stand up straight, smile, and breathe.
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1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
except for maybe the clothes, all of these are not simple
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1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats irrelevant.
besides, pain is your body telling you not to do something
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1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you delivered a wrong answer because they arent simple
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1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh no, someone on the internet said you were wrong! must be a troll.
michelleoelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ladies get the perfect bra that makes you feel good and your boobs look fantastic.
louisprimaasamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't take your self too serious.
TRIM body hair.
Dress appropriate to your age.
RustlinUpSomeJimmies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be poor.
mikmarbuc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smiling at people
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course this is personal opinion, but my biggest pet peeve is when a man is unkempt. Guys, take care of yourselves. Get regular haircuts. Don't have a neckbeard, and shave carefully. Treat any acne as best you can. Exercise, even if it's calisthenics like pushups, sit ups, running, etc. Your body will make dramatic improvements-- you won't be huge, but it's a foundation for a better body. Don't wear rumpled clothes. Wear deodorant. No one is responsible for maintaining you but yourself.
TellthemIcheckout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saved
brybell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit.
Please_Dont_Troll_Me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Look at pictures of other redditors. I instantly feel invigorated with courage knowing what my competition is.
Ufkuiwontdowatchatel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read a book.
millenialwoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Home chemical peels.
0ff112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do something with your hair. Get a new haircut, styles your hair differently, and wash your hair.
chiang01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more
rubberroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sincerely smile and laugh more. Don't glare or scoff as much. Adhere to local hygienic customs. Speak to people as a habit.
SaffronWhiteGreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress nice and keep yourself clean looking.
I am the most average looking Indian dude ever, but knowing how to match clothing has done great things for me.
/r/streetwear if you are younger, /r/malefashionadvice if you are old
TheCorruptedPurifier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Groom yourself and dress nicely. If you look good you feel good and you gain more confidence, and others like that.
Ender66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit. Skinny, fat, or anywhere in between, clothes that fit will always look good on you.
Khill23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence. Hands down.
TheLolomancer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear less.
Dude-in-the-corner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Moderation.
All of these are great and they are right! Gym, good posture, drink water, dress in well fitted close, etc, etc....but if you don't control yourself outside of these or even do them to excess it is bad.
Alcohol-Moderation...Same goes for soda. You will be shocked by how much weight you lose by cutting your intake from these in half.
Exercise- I know a lot of people who spend WAY to much time in the gym. You do not need more than an hour for a work out.
Water-Funny i know but you can poison yourself drinking too much water.
Guilty Pleasure?- Nothing wrong with it! But again MODERATION!!!! Once or twice a week for a little bit. Maybe not over two hours is OK! I promise youll be fine, but you have to control yourself.
NitsujTPU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105995/The-agonising-expensive-leg-lengthening-proceedure-surgery-patient-SIX-INCHES-taller.html
freelibrarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear well-tailored clothing.
Racefood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if you're this guy, you could start by being a tent.
MaryVenetia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trim your nails. Keep them trimmed. If they have to be long, at least keep them uniform and clean. I have gone on many dates with men with dirty, untrimmed fingernails who don't even consider how off putting it is. It's unhygienic and if you're thinking you can touch someone down there and not cause her to wince and pull away, think again.
Mars8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really simple depending on how you see it but losing weight can have a big impact in looks. Personally I think everyone should at some point try to get low on body fat just to see what they look like and how they feel. I've never been obese but in elementary to beginning of high school I was a preety chubby kid, and alot of fat would accumulate around my face, so I personally thought I was unatractive which hindered my self confidence. After loosing my weight I was night and day in comparison, way more talkative, confident, and less introverted. And when you think about it, it's preety easy to do, just eat less lol.
Nenor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit that are appropriate for your age / occupation.
FourGigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
Jusspeachie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teeth are always in style.
candymoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When walking anywhere, even to a public bathroom, even if you don't know where you are going, look like you do. Have good posture, walk quick and appear to know where you are going with purpose. People are attracted to confidence.
Osceola24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be nice
bleahz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Put on eyeliner
Moka010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cleaning Piece III
Try to say nothing negative about anybody. a) for three days b) for forty five days c) for three months See what happens to your life.
yoko ono 1996
Acorn, Yoko Ono Mentioned http://www.improvisedlife.com/2015/09/21/yoko-onos-cleaning-piece-may-change-your-life/
Eucharism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be you. Love yourself.
Also... I only said something because I really wanted to mention how this was a treasure trove of gilded users...
Bluepenguin011 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Pada0613 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exercise
sukicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maintain facial hair: Boys and girls. Boys: maintain a haircut. Get one every 2-3 weeks. Make sure your clothes fit. This is big time. Done wrong, It can make you look larger or smaller than you are. Boys, Mani/pedis aren't just for girls. When I see I man with hard hands but clean, good nails I take notice. Make sure whatever shoes you're wearing aren't and deaths door. And overall, be nice. Just be nice to people.
mrbomax123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be born pretty.
TehCyberJunkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower.
Cream_Stay_Frothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If someone can help me make a sub I can help people put their look together based on their individual appearance. Not sure how to sake a sub though.
DrinkYourHaterade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight, and look people in the eyes.
Jardejay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of yourself; Wash your body and face frequently and some yoga or something for posture. Read a lot and do not waste time on people who disagree with you, find people who will shine you without you even needing to change.
princesscesscesspool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wash ya ass
estoreseller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You personality and dressing is the best way to get notice.
buttegg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take showers regularly. Use soap.
fuzzzybear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read up on pheromones. You might change your views..... Unless you only shower once a week.
TreyWait ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave my back
PoonaniiPirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile more
JamesTheJerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear pants that actually fit you please. If your boxers look like a chef's hat exploding from a denim syringe it is just as bad as a person with a dime in their pocket that is clearly tails side out.
ipeench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence.
H_M_C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have lots of money.
IntheWhale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exhibit enthusiasm in your daily life! I can't tell you how many times I've noticed someone who is enthusiastic and energetic from a group of people. It's contagious! People want to be around people that seem to enjoy life, not someone who is constantly moping around!
PolkaDotsandPenguins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
basic hygiene. an ex of mine did not brush his teeth after chain smoking, and I refuse to make out with an ash tray. blech
Tron415 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:33 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
PAPA_Stevesy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember the names of people you have just met.
ismologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose some weight fat ass :)
Utter_Perfection ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of good responses here.
Mine isn't necessarily a tip on how to be attractive but great life advice.
Anything you chose to do, make sure you do it consistently. Whether it's fixing your diet, exercising, fixing your posture, smiling, taking better care of you hygiene. Consistency is soooo important.
You will always have a downtime in your life where your routine or schedule falters and if you are just doing something based on motivation, I promise, you will return back to your bad habits.
Consistency leads to discipline and you will be surprised at what you're capable of doing once you completely put your mind to it and do it CONSISTENTLY.
captainKieran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dress well
PeT_mY_Narwhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
im really late but for girls taking selfies, please just smile :)
refusedeny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take care of your nails.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bath. Brush your teeth. Clean clothes that aren't wrinkled. Brush your hair. I'm not saying hours and tons of money. I'm not saying follow trends. All I'm saying is show you have some pride in yourself.
Nail those things, and you're through the first hurdle of opening a conversation. And if you are asking someone out, set a day and time immediately. Also, don't make them choose. You asked them out, have a plan. My husband spent 8 years saying "we should get dinner sometime." And I politely blew him off. Then one day he said "put on a dress, I'm getting you at 7." And I began to change my view of him. Then 4 more years passed, abd we started dating.
peekabook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile and laugh at life... Oh and smell nice
sarochka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hygiene! Be clean and smell good. Keep your skin exfoliated and moisturized. Nobody likes ashy (or, even worse, flakey) dull looking skin.
No matter what your personal style is, make an effort to get dressed and fix your hair (and/or makeup) every day and wear your clothes with confidence.
suitology ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wear a suit and a solid tie
get-transcendant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seeming like you have your life together. It can be as easy as getting any task/work/homework/studying done before the actual deadline. Which will raise your confidence and give you more time to work on your self.
EvilLemon23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always, Always, ALWAYS, make sure that your nose is clear of any hanging snot before going out or especially before filming anything. Whenever I see someone with a hanging booger, it takes away all possible focus on whatever they are saying.
thelunchbunch160 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eyebrows. just brush them. and maybe pluck the strays. i'm 22 and thanks to my older sister, just found out how drastically eyebrows improve the face
SuperGayDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower
annefagit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something that's cheap, simple and doesn't require an immediate change in your personality is ironing your clothes. Especially for guys, having a crisp and ironed shirt and pants will make you look smarter, more organised, more approachable and ultimately more attractive!
machupicchutime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For women: please shave the slight peach fuzz on your upper lip...
dee62383 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:58 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shaving it will make the hair look thicker when it grows back in. There are better options. But yes, keep that hair off the upper lip! Or don't. It's your choice, honstly.
Mr_Mo56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โบ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
perfume
Asometimereader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:31 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind to others. Love the unlovable. It takes maturity and confidence, which outweighs external beauty.
GirlsPmMeUrNudesPlz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PM me your nudes
GingerRamsay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Create the illusion of health-happiness. Ie blush, mascara, orgasm, confidence, exude it, own it!
winnah2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
maintained eyebrows.
1 eyebrow razor + a few swipes in the middle + a few swipes above the brows = $5, 2 minutes, a better brighter younger looking maintained face.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat magnets.
winnah2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
use sunscreen
sweetmotherofodin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say be confident as fuck but sometimes that just makes things worse.
jbiciestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, have good posture, shower, wear properly fitted clean clothes, be confident in your own skin, and have determination/drive/focus or goal in life.
SwagADoodleDoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit over 12k comments
ginger__ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pay attention to your eyebrows.
There should always be a matching pair. No more or less than two, and they should be symmetrical. They should not be so commanding as to draw attention away from your eyes, nor should they be conspicuous in their brevity.
If your eyebrows do not meet these criteria, employ tweezers, wax, pencil, tint, or a beautician as appropriate. This applies to men as well as women.
ImDotTK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brush your teeth.
People wont want to run away while you talk, and you'll also have a nice smile.
Midnight_Musings9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Treat others as human beings, not goals. I can't describe how much of a turn off it is when guys pursue a girl as some sort of a nightly objective to get a number and take home, rather than a human being to interact with (I say guys do this because I happen to be female and get this a lot; not sure about the male experience with this).
Honestly, a person who empathizes with you is far more attractive than a person who puts you on a pedestal, or treats you like a trophy.
Generalkrunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1. Don't be unattractive
LugubriousLament ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: Be a tent
Step 2: Don't not be a tent
Zerella001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Jacksonspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CLEAN YOURSELF UP.
Your body is an artwork. Keep it neat.
SkyReach22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a fucking shower. Brush your fucking teeth. Maintain your hair, whether you like it short, medium, or long, just maintain it. It's really simple, guys.
tonsofjellyfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think of things that make you smile. For me there is nothing more attractive than a genuine smile.
DeucesCracked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
developingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can go the gym, and lift some weights and can become physically attractive, read some books and I can become intellectually interesting, I may sweep a female President of a country off her feet and may become socially attractive.
sisco98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wearing a shirt instead of T-shirt can make significant difference.
CatOplasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:19 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having kempt hair goes a long way. Keep it clean and brushed.
HocusLocus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rub a balloon. Or rub a giant rotating ball of sulfur, which you may obtain at your local Giant Rotating Ball Of Sulfur Store.
GumnutFarmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried hanging a pork chop around my neck. At least the dog will play with me.....
whymemom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cover your mouth when you yawn. No one wants to see your tonsils.
farman_memon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โPut your damn shoulders back, have a confident walk, and don't stare at the ground all the time as you walk.โ
Vivtek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tie yourself to the ground with ropes nailed to the ground with plastic pegs.
emjaysea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be positive. Conversely, quit your bitching and whining.
nuttinbetter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:45 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Attractiveness is not only in looks or posture, but also in personality. Be honest. Not only with yourself, but with others. This will also get rid of anyone who only focuses on your looks and didn't care about who you are as a person
nuttinbetter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Attractiveness is not only in looks nor posture, but also in personality. Be honest about what you think and/or believe. This will get rid of anyone who only cares about your looks
LORDxGOLD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
franksymptoms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I won the lottery."
JungleMidgets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Improve your style.
Daves_Not_Here1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use conditioner in your hair, geez.
bevo_warrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.
ktkps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk confidently
TRNogger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more often.
2_minutes_in_the_box ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:54 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a cunt.
ShredwardNorton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:18 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man I find that using face lotion every day after I shower makes my face look much more alive. I use Aveeno Daily face lotion which is light enough that doesn't cause me to break out. On days when I have to shave I use Jack Black Beard lube to shave then Jack Black post shave lotion on the bottom half of my face followed by the Aveeno for the top half of my face. I noticed a difference almost immediately. I highly recommend all Jack Black grooming stuff, it helps you not look like a dead body.
Zilakit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly even minor eyebrow maintenence goes a long way in your overall facial appearance for both men and women. (Guys it can be as simple as shaving the middle to avoid those semi unibrows/permanent scowl appearances.) They dont need to be thin or perfect, but you'd be surprised how much more approachable you'll look because of it.
Joe1972 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:09 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spend some time doing power poses. It'll translate into feeling more confident and confidence is attractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't submerge everything you eat in ranch dressing. It's disgusting.
russianout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's an issue, please trim your nose hair. Don't be that savage.
Carly-beth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:15 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidence!
Okay, maybe that isn't so easy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Doctor_Jeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
high five
alepocalypse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
work out
Karan47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be yourself and watch everyone trying to be you
slapuwithafish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:46 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For a man: Pay attention to grooming. This is key. You don't need to go all metro but cover the basics: tweeze all ear hair and visible nose hair. Tweeze between your eyebrows to avoid unibrow. Shave the back of your neck. Treat pimples as they occur and take excellent care of your teeth.
Finally, wear nice, well fitting clothes when possible and maintain good posture. Eye contact and a firm handshake at all times.
madkeepz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read books. And don't be afraid to discuss them even if the other guy hasn't read it (providing sufficient background of course). No self-esteem/fantasy cheap sagas crap, just good ol' decent literature
Spiel88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regular exercise is an incredible mood elevator, stress reliever, and makes you look and feel healthier.
Cultivate mass and become the monster you were meant to be.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Teeth whitening.
intensely_human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out
TheSpooningTurtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shower everyday
Maria-Stryker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use some concealer and foundation, no matter your gender. The point of those two particular types of makeup is to smooth your complexion and hide blemishes while being as unnoticeable as possible. If the girl you date can't stand a guy who does something so simple and subtle to improve his looks, then you're really dodging a bullet.
Katnipp22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile when you talk to someone. It completly changes the conversation!
camshell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get comfortable being who you are. Some people aren't going to like you. Be ok with that.
myredditacctfw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say please and thank you.
Starr_dust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more
FunkyOnionPeel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:50 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little late to this, but I'd like to add anyway. Keep your eyes open. Not saying you should look shocked all the time but if you put a little effort into holding them open so they're not half closed it goes a long way in making you more attractive.
Gentzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1-Look them in the eyes
2-Big smile
DonTatu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:44 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop swearing every other word or in general swear less, even when having a some what heated conversation. At some point in your life, you start to see it either as plain dumb and childish, or even disgusting.
Then you realise you're getting fucking old.. and shit just doesn't matter the fuck anymore.
lediath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean.
Dabernie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be clean, fit, cheerful, and kind.
yaheardmeyadig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight, drink more water, get more sleep.
alliandoalice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:30 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DO NOT SPIT ON THE GROUND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP TAINTING OUR MOTHER EARTH WITH YOUR DIRTY YELLOW PHLEGM
AnonEGoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:48 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The version of cosmetic Plastic Surgery for Life, instead of mere body parts.
blo0193 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:51 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just get earlier and then to have more time that prepare of myself before I would go outside.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:27 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posture!
mishaxz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:08 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Easiest way to improve posture is do push-ups.. You actually feel taller.. Assuming you were out of shape to begin with
dmd2540 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:19 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
plug your eyebrows PROFESSIONALLY!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:46 on January 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey guys. Does anyone have the video of the guy that is an architect from ITT saying he liked drawing the drawings builders need for buildings?
LadyKnightmare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:21 on January 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Invest in an impressive familiar
KiDCruS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:22 on January 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow I didn't see this one. PAY ATTENTION TO THE OTHER PERSON. This is advice for both genders. Don't text and stare at your phone while we have a coversation. Regardless of how good looking you are it makes it seem like an ass and it's annoying.
benbroady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:06 on January 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a man and stop giving a huge fuck about everything.
Spartackle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:34 on February 1, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hang around with ugly people.
imrunningfromthecops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:05 on February 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this shit is too much work
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think of others more than yourself...
ReDJeLLo_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Run.
BillyTalentfan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:21:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be fat
MinionStuart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile :)
septvea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
That_Ditto_Smell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To the ladies:
If you're single and looking for a successful and handsome guy... don't complain about men. Especially on online dating site profiles. Don't complain about men only looking for one thing. Don't act disgusted at the thought of shirtless photo showing our hard earned abs. Don't remind guys not to send photos of their penis or not talk about sex. Don't complain about not being able to find a good man.
No matter how good looking you are... doing this kind of crap just makes you look bitter. It makes good, decent men think you hate all men and have a history of making poor choices in the guys you date.
You made the choice to try dating online where you KNOW there are going to be assholes. Ignore them and move on. Otherwise, you end up looking as bad as the jerk with the shirtless penis pic.
PretendThisIsAName ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Leg raises.
snorlz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:49:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SQUATS
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave shower and comb your hair
TheyCantDiscoverMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Intellect is beauty
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:15:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This turns out to be untrue in most social circles
Knusperklotz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout.
Erisianistic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be the pest person you can be, generally. The more you can love yourself, the better you are able to handle things.
Win_or_Die ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay well hydrated with water. It effects skin, lips, etc. Use lotion too.
_thisiswater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink lots of water. We look better when we're well hydrated. Skin is more plump/alive-looking.
cjh57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe shower more than once a week.
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:09:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay twice a week. Monday to wash the weekend booze off and Friday to wash the school off.
cjh57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the way you think.
1tMakesNoSence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Manners. Have them
UncleSnuggles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a dog or a kid. Women stop me every time I take the dog for a walk. I always have to casually bring up my wife. It's ridiculous.
OhLookAnAirplane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, walk my 7 month old puppy around my college campus.
BullshitGenerator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Trim your neckbeard up to your jawline. Frames your face better and looks cleaner.
GO TO THE GYM. Literally the number one thing you can do to increase your sexual value to the opposite sex. 45 minutes a day, 4 times a week and you will see results in a week or two. Crazy how girls are fans of big muscles and chiseled abs.
Buy some good fitting clothes. When in doubt wear a black tee and some darker jeans.
I did all these things in a crazy turnaround after breaking up with my ex and the amount of female attention I got compared to before was seriously shocking. Never going back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean week, right? Because 28 sessions a week will rip you to pieces unless you're just walking or lifting five pounders.
BullshitGenerator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol yes fixed
AySeeEm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grow a beard.
HahThatsSilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hide your stupidness.
rhunter99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be rich
GrimCreepaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: Be attractive. Step 2: Don't be unattractive. Step 3: Repeat. Step 4: Profit?
TheHonorableTree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black socks. White socks are for children
phishscale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a bag of cocaine on you at all times.
jonathanroxalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be unattractive.
thedyslexicdetective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make more money
MdMomOf3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crest Whitestrips
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lawyer up, hit the gym, delete Facebook.
kick6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't be fat
wear clothes that fit (i.e. tailored)
don't walk around like strongsad (stand up straight)
iranianshill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Groom your eyebrows. No, you don't have to turn them in to perfectly formed shapes and no, it doesn't make you some sort of homo.
I used to have wild, bushy eye brows but now I keep them shaped up. They can seriously frame your face and improve your facial aesthetics in a matter of seconds (assuming you don't already have "normal" eye brows).
hoklem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YES! Eyebrows can absolutely make or break a face.
buckus69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be unattractive.
TypicalCricket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight
fuckotheclown3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cut carbs out of your life for a month or two if you're just slightly overweight to obese - universally makes people hotter, unless they're already really thin.
CertifiedWerewolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1) Comb and wax your beard every day 2) If you don't a beard, grow one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be fat.
Aroseisarose73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not all fat people are fat due to bad habits. Some people are so due to medical reasons.
media911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the ATM frequently, fill your wallet with cash. Seems to have an effect on young women. Lol
KevanBacon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being confident and social to your woman is good, but don't let it stop there. When you're with her, be positive and confident to those around you. On a date? Ask the waiter how his or her day is going. Make conversation. Greet people as you're walking down the street. Hold the door open for others. Throw out some compliments about someone's dog or how cool you think that last guys hair was.
Girls are attracted to you as a character, not just how you treat them. In my experience I've been told that my interactions with people seem to come naturally and that they admire that side of me. It seems to really interest women more than being a confident person to just them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is "lose weight" not the top comment?
ruinher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most women will crush and shatter your heart into a million pieces. Acquire money instead.
AnnArchist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout. Choose to not be fat.
Its remarkably simple.
mccoyster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: Don't be unattractive
Step 2: Be attractive
MrFlatulence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear an attractive person's face
stefannnn77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I need 10 karma :D
apartofitall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile a genuine happy smile
Logicalsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave.
Pin-tear-oh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. Just simply smile.
Mr_Pratt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:54 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
sensicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When buying your Hummer, be sure to ask for the pussy magnet.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Penis enlargement pills
yoloruinslives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$$$$$.. having money can make you look attractive. also working out. with money you can afford all the interesting hobbies.
oduh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Acquire cash. Become financially beautiful.
ChideDaJungler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is easy. Look healthy: 8 hours of sleep, square meals, light exercise, makes you more sociable in general. For expert level: make a lot of money and don't be a dick about it.
wordswiththeletterB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:15 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna give the tips I feel like have worked for me as a male who's attracted to females:
Keep the back of your neck line trimmed between haircuts(get a haircut once a month if you can, if you have short hair. No more than every other month)
Try to dress well[accordingly to the event](You fedora neck beards with your ties and vests at every event you go to)
Smile at everyone (not just the cute girl or guy)
Walk with confidence, smiling will help too
Enjoy whatever it is you're doing at that given moment.
Lastly, don't be so apologetic. If something happens don't automatically say sorry. It may not even be your fault, dammit.
Good luck everyone out there.
Face-in-the-crowd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give a fuck about being healthy. Eating, working out, and resting right (+ mind & spirit) and in return..... if you take care of your body - your body will take care of you via: Better health Better vitality Oh and by the way...... you'll look more attractive to desired sex to which you want to be attracted to
Truth that can't be denied It's just how bad you want to achieve your achieve your goal
hardnips4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whiten your teeth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't smoke or dip. Tobacco is unattractive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised you said dip. Most people don't know it even exists lol
trollfessor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
iambecomecancer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
itt: no one suggesting to stop eating as much
exert less effort than any of these shit suggestions and get mad beauty gains
redviper911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:32 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
put spaghetti sauce in your hair
Slingyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wash yourself at least once a year
teckreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
Kaibakura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An entire post for people who want to get a girlfriend but not put forth any actual effort to do so. Great.
mrnagrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make more money
KMFDM781 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a fat guy. I'm decently attractive for a fat guy...but I've never had any issues getting girlfriends. Coming from a super mega shy personality at school, I learned that, for me anyway:
Make an effort in your appearance. You don't have to buy expensive, name brand stuff, but if it looks taken care of and new, it makes a difference. Keep shaved and trimmed. Keep your nails clean....don't have stains on your clothes, don't wear nasty dirty shoes and socks.
Smell nice. If you're broke and you can't afford anything else.....but some really nice cologne, body wash and lotion. Do research and find out what girls think smells good. Don't overdo it.... I usually put a very little cologne on right out of the shower when I'm still damp..usually on my neck, chest and arms....seems to get into my skin better....then i use a nice scented lotion in the same areas. Use Gold Bond on your junk. Make sure your breath smells good..get a good mouthwash and use it more than once through the day and brush regularly.
Hold your head up. Don't always look down....look at girls in the face and don't shy away from their eyes. Even if you are intimidated do not act like it...exude confidence even if you have to fake it...girls love a confident guy...not cocky and conceited. Even if you're not that attractive, girls will wonder what else you have going on if you're so confident. Shit works.
WrennAmethyst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a shit ton of money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get an education and steady career. Not much else is more attractive than this.
Theshadebusiness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:26 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.
kitkatbay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good personal hygiene, active effort to neither dominate nor remain outside of the conversation, show interest in other's (if you are like me you may have to practice this), dress in a way that suits the body you have, smile (even when you are not happy, people respond positively to your smile eventually making you happy).
onesmartmama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Poisonedzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile.
hassanhamadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take selfies everyday. I believe it helps making you accept the way you look which will reflect automatically on your confidence that makes attractive people attractive. Attractiveness comes from inside.
PseudoY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:58 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can hardly think of anything I find less attractive then seeing someone take the third selfie on that day.
hassanhamadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That someone doesn't need to take the selfie in public or post it online.
wht_smr_blk_mt_side ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight
TheJester73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HAVE MONEY.
ixlHD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything here seems to revolving around the same notion Change yourself fuck that, be you, walk the way you want, talk the way you want, wear what you want.
It's your life you're living, do whatever makes you happy, being happy is attractive, eventually you will find someone who likes you for you and not for the fake shit you have going on to make yourself look more attractive while turning your happiness into sadness.
imcuteforanuglygirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
mikester22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just be an authentic smiler. Laugh lots and be happy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: basic hygiene tips. Are people really not showering or brushing their teeth?
conejaverde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, unfortunately.
And some of them get all pissy and butthurt when you bring it up (my ex).
Zebsnotdead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little mascara goes a long way. Actually makeup in general. It's made to enhance your beautiful face, not hide it!
ahuevo91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just gonna say to start wearing earrings if ur a girl lol but advice here is way deeper lol so I'm just going to take my pretty earrings and walk away discreetly
xXVoicesXx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm just going to take my pretty earrings and walk away discreetly" HA! Thanks for the laugh. I always thought this was a good piece of advice for females.
wjbc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Become a good listener.
cauldron_bubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.. Spend some time doing something that you like, which fills you with happiness and causes you to feel good inside and smile. People are more inviting when they feel good and exude warmth and satisfaction. When we share this side of ourselves, people are more likely to feel comfortable being around us and engaging with us.
addrae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
DavisRedditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:29 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile
IanGecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I'm feeling unattractive I usually ball up a sock or two and stuff my crotch. You'd be amazed at the confidence boost a simple sock will give you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be compassionate. Nothing is more attractive than a person with a kind, generous heart.
sixfigurekid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TONED BODY: exercise 3 times per week. jogging, intense hiking, push ups, and pull ups, anything that makes you sweat and leaves some muscles sore. Increase your protein intake, decrease carbs, cut out all sugary drinks like soda and juices and eat less bread/wheat/carbs
WHITER TEETH: brush 2x daily, floss every other day. Use a bleach kit with hydrogen peroxide gel and the mouth piece you leave in for a while to make ur smile really noticeable.
HEALTHY SKIN: shower daily with natural soap (SLS / sulfate free if possible). Install a chlorine shower head filter in your shower for softer skin and hair (most public water is damaging and drying). Apply lotion to face neck and body if desired, after every shower to lock the moisture into your skin. (This can make you look much younger and you will age very well).
SMELL: don't ever be "that guy"... use deodorant and Cologne or scented spray. And breath mints / gum!
EXTRA PEACOCK FLAIR: get a nice haircut every month or so, you might have to pay a little extra bit you can Yelp some good salons in your area. Check out the men's fashion magazines and blogs for some classic fashion looks that will work with ur style. Get a nice wardrobe together. Button up shirts, slacks, dress shoes, luxury watch, sun glasses, are the basics. Try to go with form fitted or slim fit items, not baggy yet not too tight.
Congratulation, if u do all this and your weren't previously morbidly obese, overweight, or hideously ugly then you are most likely attractive now. See how easy it was?
Alan_Smithee_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:52 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Floss your fucking teeth. Every day, at least once. Biggest cause of bad breath, and I've read that flossing your teeth every day will extend your life by up to 7 years...reduces heart disease.
redjd777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout.
ohmytaketime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
White strips. The first thing people notice isn't your shoes it's your teeth.
Jgamibi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:35 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be indian
DarthImpailer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:10 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LMAO
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a boob job
doodle_day_lewis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:02 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys : Have an actual hairstyle. Doesn't have to be complicated, just INTENTIONAL. You instantly look more mature and like you have your shit together. Second, take atleast minimal care of your skin. If you have dry spots, dry lips, iffy looking moles, lumps or bumps get it taken of. Girls notice things like that and it says something about not only your hygiene, but how well you take care of yourself in general. Remember, your skin is your largest organ!
AustinThompson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What you could do is kill a person of the same gender (or different gender if you wish) that you find to be attractive. You then carefully and I stress CAREFULLY cut the skin of that person off. try to keep the skin as one whole piece but if you have to split it a couple times that's not too bad. To accomplish this I personally prefer to use a boning knife as it is more flexible but any knife will do. Then simply undress yourself and slip into this beautiful skin suit and voila!
1wsx10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yes
DuhSpecialWaan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming this is aimed at a stereotypical reddit user?
Fix up your wardrobe. Buy a pair of boots/brogues/versatile trainers(eg. Vans, Stan Smiths etc). Don't wear bootcut jeans or anything of the sorts, very unflattering and you end up with a hijab for your footwear. Also, wear flattering glasses if you need them, don't pick ones which look awful on your face.
Sort your hair out. I've seen that loads of people here cut their own hair, which is crazy in my eyes. Go to a barber, and find the right cut for your head shape. If you like a certain haircut, find a picture, save it on your phone and show your barber. Also, don't grow your hair out long if it's thin, it makes you look like an angsty teen who listens to too much Linkin Park. Also, those with hair loss, accept your hair loss and embrace bald life. Use conditioner after you wash shampoo out of your hair for healthier hair. If you can't grow a beard, trim those fucking pubes off your face. If you can grow a beard, tame it.
Brush your teeth, floss, SHOWER, trim your finger nails, use deodorant and trim any nose hair and ear hair. Trim your pubes too, makes your dick look bigger.
Don't start conversations to be argumentative. Chill sometimes. Listen to what people have to say. Have some hobbies that don't revolve around video games, board games and bernie sanders. Do what you can to stay on top of social media trends, useful to use in conversations.
AkaGavner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guys, get your eyebrows done! Girls will notice, it feels really good to be groomed.
syabuzar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually dry heaved.
Silverbullets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chill out, and try to feel like the coolest person in the room. No, don't be a pompous ass because of it, but it may help your confidence so that conversations and interacting with people gets easier and more enjoyable. Just be chill in any situation and just play it as you normally would.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:40 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Men: Money
Women: Boobs
/drop the mic
34gu ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a woman: balance your BMI and buy some makeup.
If you're a man: increase your income and/or social status.
EVIL9000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
for women, your income and or social status hardly matters. Most women like humor, honesty, confidence and good hygiene.
34gu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:36:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woman, please. Stahp.
EVIL9000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:56:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not my fault you lack character and think money and social status makes you attractive. The only think that attacks in your formula IS the money, and the social status, not you. "Even if a monkey wears a golden ring, it is and remains an ugly thing"
34gu ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:12 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you shooting the messenger? Check any psych 101 text. It's just the way humans are and have evolved. Men want physical appearance and women want socio-economic status.
tehsophz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:07 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe don't think you know everything about people because you took Psych 101. I have my own job that pays my bills. I care more about someone whom i'm physically attracted to and is a good person than some dickbag with money and prestige.
34gu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:03:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shoots the massager.
tehsophz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Leave my massager out of this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:47 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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34gu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course there are exceptions. There are exceptions to anything. I have no idea why people are taking this personally.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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34gu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:09:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh but men aren't shallow for primarily seeking physical attractiveness? Notice how no one is contenting that. I haven't had any men lash out at me yet, but several women already have.
Look, we all know everyone who's going to respond is a special little snowflake with a high level of consciousness beyond the zombie masses. Whatever. It's just an observation. If you look across human culture, there are varying standards of physical attractiveness. For example in some parts of Africa being really really heavy/large is considered beauty. The thing that doesn't change is the characteristics of a partner which are paramount to men.. and that is physical appearance. Same goes for women. It's just the way the human brain is wired.
Jimp0 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 19:48:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop wearing yoga pants.
brokesmoke843 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:49:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man I formally disagree with your statement.
loptthetreacherous ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:50:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck this person.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hisrobu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:01:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Infuse yourself with the blood of vampires.
The amazing thing is that it will improve your (un)life in many other ways. Once you past 60 you get senior discount on public transport...
As easy as that.
PseudoY ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:30:46 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The overall advice seems to me:
Smile like a fucking moron all the time. Even when you're feeling like shit.
Be confident and lead people into bad situations because you don't know what you're doing.
Spend a lot of money on barbers and grooming.
Shower (alright, fine, this one is alright)
Walk like a gorilla.
SMILE FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Hazzman ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be attractive.
Don't be unattractive.
TheNaughtyMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have money. Buy attractive.
LMFAO4LYF ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Earn 7 figures?
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:19:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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king_push ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but don't try too hard to be "quirky and funny" aka annoying
CrocanoirZA ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 14:26:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk slowly. It might seem simple but no one will notice you if you're constantly rushing around. I am a rusher by nature. After a long term relationship ended I was wondering how to get out there again so one morning I consciously decided to walk more slowly. I met a new boyfriend that afternoon. We lasted three months. It was good
iliketosnuggle ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:39:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a fast walker. Reading this is like having someone tell me "hey, go torture yourself with a set of chisels if you want to meet someone."
But hey, glad it works for you! (The walking part, not the chisels part)
CrocanoirZA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:36:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's really not that bad. I am surprised at how unpopular my advice was though. Each to their own I suppose. It did work for me.
iitouchedthebutt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:17:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have confidence!
Confidence is extremely attractive on anyone who knows how to carry it.
JackusABackus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:51:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take good care of your hair. Use shampoo and conditioner wisely, and style it with good products.
MpVpRb ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:54:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be a nice person
Britnorm114 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:55:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your eyebrows
Legacy0904 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:16:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a Cologne or perfume that works well with your skin. Use it daily, sparingly, and never tell anyone what brand or smell it is.
I've been doing this for years and the smell has become "my smell". I've had plenty of women say " wow, ____ was right, you do smell amazing"
Smelling nice is attractive.
Knineteen ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:18:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL I have to be the most attractive person on the planet because I shower twice a day, wash my hair thoroughly and wear cologne.
MoodyMoony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:22:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try not to wear stuff like gym shorts and graphic T's. Instead of shorts and short sleeve shirts are you style try khaki/cargo shorts with a polo. Just a little tip. Just try to look like you care what you look like.
InstantMoisture ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:38:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently, shave. I love my beards and I am lazy to shave but I started wet shaving with a DE razor for some nice close shaves and my wife can't get her hands off my face now.
Having a good haircut and just being well groomed on the head goes a LONG way.
Posture with your chest out (even for girls! - I like boobies but this honestly make you look more confident and sexy as a woman). That slouched look is gross D:
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:29:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be pleasant and friendly all the time. No matter what you look like people can't help liking a pleasant friendly person.
pedrobeara ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:02:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
collect money lots of it.
kickingtenshi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Earn more money.
homequestion ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:11:21 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't make-up the obvious answer? It can easily add 1-2 points (out of 10) to most women.
PadaWINE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:27:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The use of "I'm sorry" as a preface. Example, "I'm sorry, it's just how I feel" or "she wants to live her life like that?! I'm sorry, I disagree!" No you're not sorry; if you're sorry then don't say it.
megamtber ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:53:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.
Obviously_Ritarded ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:53:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be ugly.
Blackfox10 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:11:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile :)
rmfr87 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do your hair, wear clean shoes, and smile more.
ezjumper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quit smoking
severineser ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:16:18 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind and smile.
BroccoBaba ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:20:30 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cut your nails, get a haircut, iron your shirt and pants, buy adult shoes, get tanned, work out, join some hobbies that have 50% or more women, do more talk-worthy stuff, off the top of my head.
leifer2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:09 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more often. It'll change your confidence and make you more approachable.
jkchen5684 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight. It's simple because you just need to eat less. It's cheap because you can buy less food.
lil_icebear ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just fucking smile
GourmetCoffee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:27:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to style you hair, guys! You don't need to just get a buzz or let it fall around your face. And I don't mean loading up a shit load of gel and doing some boring spikes.
Learning to style my hair added like +3 points to my looks.
The right hairstyle can balance your face out. I have a very wide, angular jawline and using styles that are high on top and short / swept back on the sides balances it out and makes it look more proportional.
cputnik ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:28:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile
wellsy2008 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:28:55 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a paint brush and chuck on some make up. O and don't forget to shave your eyebrows then paint them back on.
jonesmcbones ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:30:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simple? Hit the gym.
Quick? Posture.
fozzy_dunlop9891 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:30:10 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
smile!
Kathaarianlifecode ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:30:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat clean, exercise, don't smoke, have good hygiene and have some pride.
dannygizzle101 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:32:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be funny and it doesn't hurt to smile too
JasperYu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:35:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A smile goes a long way
DeadGuy940 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:35:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight. Find a wall, put your heels against it and then lean back into the wall. Make your head touch too. Now you are standing up straight - you look taller, more confident, slimmer and all of that shows through.
MaximusNeo701 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:35:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eating better and being physically active.
DO YOU EVEN LIFT BRO /s
hashtagsmoreos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:35:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out, smile, stand up straight
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be positive. Don't be a gossip. Have good hygiene. Smile. Be genuinely happy. Physically: pluck your eyebrows every other week, use a body and facial scrub once a week. If you have frizzy hair make sure you condition at the ends only and use a salon quality shampoo at the roots. Invest in a boar bristle brush if you have thin hair.
ohPunky ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Non-sarcastic response: shave your facial hair off and get a nice hair cut.
Gromit83 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:39:07 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shower every day
LaAnonima ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:39:52 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've long said that good posture and a smile is worth 2 points.
rawrr483 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:40:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile. It's crazy how much attractive a smile can make you.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:40:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout. Don't eat like an asshole. Be nice. Strive to be better and correct habits that don't serve you.
Lord_of_the_Dance ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:41:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get fit
Don't be fat, if you are, lose the weight
manmodetaric ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:43:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised I had to say this but smile more. Honestly whether you have messed up teeth or not, people who smile more look happier and are immediately more attractive to me.
sannahmarie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:44:12 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SMILE
TheSensation19 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:45:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stay active. Work out Eat clean, natural and healthy Get out in the sun
niggerannihilator ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:49:33 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you could stop posting on reddit
Rekluse72 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:50:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Simply smile!
muuumblebee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:50:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Physically? Shower. Brush your teeth, maybe with whitening toothpaste. Smile.
RealBuoy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:50:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
Jayzlips ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:53:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always smile
GreenAce92 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:54:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not exist?
GretSeat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:55:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surgery
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:57:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get some accutane
everythingisthrown ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:58:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A million dollars.
easy_pancakes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
SkintCrayon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
donotbelieveit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:07:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always smile before you say hello to someone.
NotJohnDenver ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:09:05 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At home teeth-whitening and a little bit of a tan can go a long ways for both guys and girls. Not Hollywood overboard, but if you have a date, these are quick and easy things you can do to help yourself look more attractive.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:13:06 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile, but not pedo style
macrocosm93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:15:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.
I know people hate being told to smile, I hate it too, but it honestly makes a huge difference. Attitude is extremely and a person's smile is a big indicator of their over-all attitude. First impressions are also important and if you're smiling when a person first sees you, you'll instantly make a good first impression.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's an indicator that they want everyone around them to think they've got a good attitude. Someone smiling all the time makes me seriously leery of them, never knowing when they are smiling for real.
macrocosm93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:08 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say smile all the time, I said smile more.
And do it genuinely. If you genuinely have a good attitude then smiling shouldn't be a problem.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My attitude is a response to what happens around me. I won't smile unless something warrants it.
wannabegenius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:17:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
get a fucking job
Driv3n ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:18:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shave your face everyday!
homeless_dude ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:23:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let that ass crack hang out
NotTheMiracleGirl ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:23:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be more conversational (add to the conversation instead of just responding)
Smile! I think people who smile are more attractive, maybe bc they seem friendlier.
And lastly, drink more water! It may sound a bit stupid but it completely changes how you look. It makes your skin clearer and brighter, and you look younger when you're properly hydrated! And not to be gross but drinking water can keep you "regular" so you may look a bit slimmer and not bloated!
HITLERS_SEX_PARTY ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:26:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remove the 'Hillary', '0bama', or 'Sanders' stickers from your POS car.
nippleeffect ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:27:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile as often as possible, to everyone and everything you can possibly smile at.
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is terrible advice...
nippleeffect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:44 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I worded this comment awkwardly. I probably should have just said "smile more". Here's why http://longevity.about.com/od/lifelongbeauty/tp/smiling.htm
PseudoY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:57 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
11: Being asked to smile all the fucking time despite my current mood makes me bottle up an increasing amount of rage every time it happens :-)
nippleeffect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:07 on January 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was not personally asking you to smile. Personally idgaf. However the thread was asking for simple advice on how to make yourself more attractive. Smiling is simple. Studies show that a person is more attractive to others when they smile, and I'm pretty sure a shitload of the responses to this thread mention something about smiling in the comments. If you so strongly disagree with that advice then there are alot more redditor responses in this thread you might want to downvote and tell off for having such shitty advice.
butts4351 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:27:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile more.
shortbrian ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:27:53 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Things my mother tried to ingrain on me as a kid
TheRealDonaldDrumpf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:42:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile!
thisisthinprivilege ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:44:47 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
DON'T BE FAT.
Have good hygiene.
Have a good attitude.
Ladies don't put your makeup on with drywall trowel.
If you're fat, I could care less about your "personality". And drinking more water won't make a fat person attractive. Neither will perfect hair, nails, clothes and handbags which most fat women fallaciously believe make them attractive.
et1n ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:45:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
LawGinger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:46:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile.
Ejwy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:48:23 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
rjfuturegolfer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:49:20 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get married ๐ lol. Ever since I've gotten married I've been hit on and flirted with more than ever.
xxVrahxx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:49:50 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stand up straight
supafly208 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:50:35 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
RoughNeck_TwoZero ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:03:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile and walk with confidence.
Olak_ase ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:24:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read, read a lot. Having a conversation with a smart person that looks directly in your eyes is very attractive
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:44:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BeerPowered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People will make fun of your long hair and you WILL be a subject to mental and physical violence because of it. You either own it, or you run. You ran.
crestind ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:50:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bathe in human pheromones.
satan669 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:14:08 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear clothes that fit. Dress nicely, even if you do small things to improve your appearance people will notice, I usually just wear jeans and a plain t-shirt that is tucked in with plain brown leather boots. This looks infinitely better than baggy jeans with ill fitting graphic t's and skate shoes. Also act confident, even if you aren't, fake it till you make it. Push your chest out, walk with purpose, and don't second guess your movements.
createdthistodothat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:23:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really enjoying that most of the top comments aren't about changing something about your physical appearance. They are more about how you carry yourself. Very nice Reddit, you vain bitches.
Jar465 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:33:21 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Workout and fix your diet. Neither are that hard, plenty of info online and they will make you into the most attractive you.
KawaiiChao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:34 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"simple"
Jar465 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:11 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really that complicated?
KawaiiChao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's necessarily complicated, but it definitely isn't simple. I assume when people think of a simple action, part of that means a quick action. It can take months to get into shape, and it takes a lot of dedication.
Mutant_Llama1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:39:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: Be Attractive.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:44:03 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carry a fat wallet.
piugattuk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:45:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends, attraction is such a personal thing for everyone, understand that it largely depends on the person, if a person solely basis their potential mate by looks you may be trying to high dive into a shallow pool, if you want to be more attractive then you need to take care of yourself like a gay man, no kidding many females have told me that gay men really groom themselves nicely.
that's one, the second is you got to show you are in control of your life, being stable is very attractive to many females, this means you need to be as talented as possible in many things, every female knows every guy wants to drill them, you got to show interest but not enough to scare her, many females are scared because of all the negative experience with males being to aggressive, just remember if they put you in the friend zone don't waste time, they are probably a dizzy female and it's not worth it.
zortroz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:46:04 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have lots and lots of money. Carry a potato sack of it around with you.
corporaterebel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:52:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out, build muscle and keep your waist smaller than your chest.
Simple in concept, hard in practice.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:16 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Masterbate in public places
69username69 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:48 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have money.
SlashBolt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:15:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a job, you loser!
the_dom_bomb_2112 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:20:57 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be fat
Goodjokemate ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:36:05 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Making an appointment at a plastic surgery
I_Like_Canada ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:38:14 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Smile
Spanky_McJiggles ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:46:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Fart in front of people that are out of your league, that way you won't in front of people that aren't.
Amazadaythegreat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:40:29 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you're talking about physically attractive here are a few things. if youre a girl: wear a small amount of foundation, this will make your skin glow and look even. start taking vitamins for your hair and skin, this will make you feel good and look good!
9D4co94GB6 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:41:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be rich.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:56:25 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be unattractive
dirnetgeek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:57:26 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be over weight.
Ahtobe_original ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:52:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to be needy enough to ask this.
1wsx10 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:14:37 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ctrl-F tan
yesss
deveets ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:14:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any sort of face tattoo should do the trick.
makenzie71 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:32:41 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be charitable. It makes you look like you have money and are willing to give it away. People like that in you.
bearpenis69 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:42:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Start smoking
xXSpyderKingXx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:51:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't take yourself too seriously.
I was walking around the mall with my friend the other day and was wearing one of those plastic fire helmets from Firehouse Subs and damn if girls didn't just walk up and start talking to me about it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:55:59 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Work out. Stop being so fat
makiaz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:37:13 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
good looking eyes, hair and lips
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:58:27 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Male: Cut your nails extrashort, trim your beard if you have one (and don't force things if you can't grow it, shave everything).
Female: Keep your nails clean and if you can wear clear nail polish (it's nothing and they will look neat), if you use makeup, make sure your foundation matches your skintone, cut your split ends, avoid dark roots if your dye your hair, choose wax over shaving, it damages the skin and hairs regrow overnight anyway.
Both female and male: Shower daily, always smell fresh and nice BUT not too much! Wear fitting clothes and choose quality over quantity, don't wear dirty or damaged shoes, smile, be polite, avoid saying dirty words, and try to have a nice posture
HeyItsAmberP ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:51:01 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being naked. Apparently.
Executor21 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:20 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less. Cut your normal meal portion size by about fifty percent. You will lose weight if you are strong enough. As adults, we don't need as many calories to function as we may think. Simple....I did not say "easy."
(The next time you eat, make it a habit not to clean your entire plate of food. Leave some behind. Increase this amount with each meal.)
NYCPowerCouple ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 21:05:41 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For women:
Start drinking more water AND IMPROVE YOUR POSTURE!
Let your hair & nails grow and refrain from being an idiot and cutting it short.
Also refrain from:
Getting tattoos
Getting ridiculous piercings other than your ears
Dying your hair a non-human color
Cursing
Staying glued to your smart phone and posting 10 selfies a week on instagram/FB/twatter etcetc
Participating in the hookup culture which is solidified to hurt your overall mental and physical health
Participating in hollywood/celebrity worship culture
Watching cable TV
Listening to feminism about how to be attractive and how to manage a relationship
Stressing hardcore over a useless career in an expensive college (stress adds wrinkles and takes a toll on your mental & physical health)
"but omg that is such an archaic view, people r modern and enlightened nowadayz, women can do all these things and still be feminine/sexy!"
No. And if you do all of this crap, you need not wonder why every quality man you ever loved has never loved you back nor committed for long to you. It's not because they were assholes, it's because you are not long-term GF/wife material.
Do:
DRESS FEMININE (wedges/heels, sun dresses, form-fitting clothing, etc, lingerie, etc.)
Work out often and shoot for a waist-hip ratio of 0.68 (studies show it bears the smartest children) and a BMI of 19 (top rated pornstars - who get paid for their bodies - average this BMI).
Eat very healthy
Submissiveness in women is not bad, no matter how much feminism insists in saying it is. Swallow (heh) your pride and submit to a worthy overlord
Exfoliate!
Brazilian wax often
As you can tell from this thread, Men have A LOT more to do to improve their attractiveness than women do. Chin up sport, study this post, and start today.
jazuminchan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:24:01 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm fucked.
sufferationdub ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:43:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats ridiculous. i for one love short haired women with like, a neon dye job and tattoos. this whole post is screaming early 20's secret neckbeard who "swallowed the pill". the only things that'd id agree with are water, posture, and a good diet.
jazuminchan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:22 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like that people know what they want in a person, but I am a strong believer in loving yourself before you love another.
Everyone has different tastes and different personalities. I happen to love tattoos, big beards and dressing comfortably.
And I would totally dye my hair purple if I could have it at work. :)
mrnagrom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:36 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, Don't give a fuck and keep being awesome, you'll find a significant other. Or spend your life on waist to hip ratios to attract idiots that care about that.
jazuminchan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:00 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You took the words right out of my mouth.
I love who I am and I have someone who loves me the way I am. So, I couldn't care what people think are "unattractive" about me. I'm happy, and that's all that matters to me. :)
NYCPowerCouple ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 21:27:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming you have tats and blue short hair.
You can dye your hair a natural color, let it grow, and do everything else on the list. The only thing that is permanent are the tats (not really) and a high sexual body count (hookup culture toll). You can easily reverse everything else, even obesity.
Good luck =)
mrnagrom ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:51:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if you're trolling or really believe this shit
NYCPowerCouple ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent contribution to the thread, m8.
Even better rebuttal to whatever it seems you "disagree" with, m8.
8/8 wood r8 again
mrnagrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:30 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So are you trolling? The shitpost you spewed is so stupid that i assume you're trolling but at the same time there are a lot of really fuckin' stupid people on reddit.
NYCPowerCouple ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:45:24 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent contribution to the thread, M8 vol. 2
Even better rebuttal to whatever it seems you find "stupid", m8
8/8 wood r8 again m8, vol. 2
mrnagrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:55 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So are you trolling? Vol. 2. The shitpost you spewed is so stupid that i assume you're trolling but at the same time there are a lot of really fuckin' stupid people on reddit. Vol. 2. ;)
NYCPowerCouple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:40 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad you're that self-aware.
mrnagrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:20 on January 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still haven't answered the question. Desperately resorting to changing the subject to avoid it. :) keep tryin', keep tryin'.
jazuminchan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:11 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No blue hair. Can't have unnatural hair color working in a Hospital. Just tattoos, graphic t-shirts, blue jeans, tennis shoes, Netflix. video games, work and College.
My hair is pretty lengthy, but I've always loved short hair. Will probably cut it soon. The boyfriend suggests a pixie hair cut.
I feel most attractive when I'm being myself and being that my boyfriend thinks I'm attractive, I think life is pretty good.
Just saiyan. :)
NYCPowerCouple ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 22:58:03 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would I be an asshole if I guessed your BMI, Waist-hip ratio and thus your sexual options?
Picturing how you are already, I highly doubt it makes any difference lol. Go for it.
http://i.imgur.com/xO5y1w6.jpg
kek
"short hair is so hot! better than long hair!" said no sane/healthy, straight quality Man with any nubile sexual options ever.
Your BF sounds like a great guy, and sounds like he'd never leave your side no matter what you do. Does he have a brother? ;- )
If my girlfriend even entertained the thought of cutting her hair short, I'd immediately drop kick down a cement flight of steps and up them, cheat on her, and then tell her to fuck off.
Then again I am of the rare variety of Men nowadays with healthy hormonal (testosterone) levels with actual masculine values.
jazuminchan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:38:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that would be totally up to you to cheat on a woman for her choice in hairstyle. And I wish you the best of luck building a healthy foundation for a relationship based on your sad views of what makes a woman attractive.
My boyfriend loves me and that's all that matters to me. After reading your post, I feel extremely lucky to have such a loving and accepting guy by my side. :)
NYCPowerCouple ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:58:43 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
kek someone's mad they don't measure up. Those standards aren't just mine, they are every quality Man standards since the beginning of time (waist-hip ratios, low BMI, long hair & nails, feminine clothing and personality, etc.). Attacking me for adhering to a universal standard passed down to me by my ancestors and natural selection is the silliest thing ever. Like I created the universe LOL.
Noticed you never said you loved your boyfriend. It's because deep down inside you loathe him for settling for you, yet rationalize this away to feel better. He sounds like a true conqueror of women! LMAO
yungkef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's incredible how polar opposite our tastes are in women...
mrnagrom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:02 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does "listen to feminism about how to" mean?
ColonelSanders_1930 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 14:43:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meth
CrossOfIron ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 01:30:23 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight.
I can bang a 5/10 as long as she isn't fat.
Hell I will bang a 6/10 dickgirl trap with a feminine cock as long as they are not a fatty.
Stop being fat for fucks sakes.
TheNaughtyMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OTOH, if you want a defense from this person, have seconds.
YourPapy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:42 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clothes that fit, good hygiene, and confidence. Oh, and not being unattractive.
Krazyzane ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:34 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Walk in place, play simple sports like bowling, darts, horse shoes and such its enough to keep you active
BackDimplez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:39 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Says make you more attractive not more active...running in place makes no one more attractive
Tsu21 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: basic hygiene
Schytzophrenic ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:57 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hipsterize: lose some weight, grow a beard, wear some plad and skinny jeans, mention a new band. Bitches love that.
caffelover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:19 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nobody wants those kinds of bitches.
losing weight is a good idea.
GMmichel ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:24 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't Smile (Unless You're a Woman)
Guys, what's your first reaction when you see a hot lady person across the pudding line? Do you drop your eyes like a palsied eagle dropping eggs, or do you flash your pearly whites in an electrifying grin that would make even the most pious of nuns quiver? Well, it better be the former, because the latter isn't nearly as charming as you think.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:44 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just fucking smile girls!! Goddamn! How hard is it to just smile!! It makes a HUUGE difference.
i-d-even-k- ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:27 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Act like an ENTP.
r/entp is the place to ask for tips
ep1939 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't believe nobody said getting tanned.
A few times in a solarium can give you a totally better and healthier look. Getting tanned also gets rid of panda looking eyes and make you look younger.
Another thing: Only very few people, especially man really look better in glasses. Consider wearing contact lenses.
Third: For man. Be a musician, that you play something, girls get an instant hard on for it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:04 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope not...
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:49 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After I shower I turn on cold water for ten seconds and stand there letting it drench my skin and hair.
It reduces damage to the hair that hot water causes, leaving it shiny, it also closes your pores so they don't get shit in them while they are open that result in pimples. 10 seconds only and makes a notable difference
locotxwork ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a man, I keep tabs on nails and toes. Why? If a woman keeps her nails and toes well manicured and taken care of, tidy and clean . .then her other parts get the same attention. This is a big thing. Smile and be happy even when you are sad. A woman's ability to control her emotions and sway them to the positive is a major turn on. Dress nice and smell good. I'm sure these are pretty generic but it's really that simple. You gotta give men that ONE THING that they absolutely love about you that they cannot forget and that separates you from all the other whores.
MrChris33 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:45 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dont wear leggings and Ugh boots, together or seperate!
CuriousTacos ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:43 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whiten your teeth! Everyone can do it, and there's nothing better than a white smile.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:40 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step One: Purchase a dictionary. The_irony_made_me_laugh._Thank_you!
mrnagrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:38 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step two: crush puss
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:57:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step three: ....?????Profit?????
ashory ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take the time to actually NOTICE the things around you.
Make eye contact when you talk to me.
Try having a genuine interest in conversing with me, instead of talking at me.
Also? Smile!!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:25 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Roboticsammy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do the two steps.
1) Be attractive
2) Don't be unattractive
bjo0rn ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:16 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lie.
GoldenWizard ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: be me Step 2: ??? Step 3: profit
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:39 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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muesli_snipes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:56 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol don't take this guys advice
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:37 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually laugh at guys like you when they walk down the street.
the_disco_pimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:17 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hahahahahaa
greengemextreme ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:49 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be a radical feminist.
LukeBabbit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:06 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slather on 20 pounds of makeup like a typical female would.
beckybeckerson ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:42 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the majority of women - lose weight
For the majority of men - man up
uninc4life2010 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make more money.
PileOfDeadBears ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:17 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get rich
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:00 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Computer_Barf ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:38 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to social justice warriors, you should become morbidly obese.
amyopolis ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:22 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
www.reddit.com/r/keto The ketogenic diet will make you more attractive. Check out before and after pics.
g-spot_adept ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:36 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For women - leave your damn eyebrows ALONE!!
(and lose some weight)
deveets ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:51 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hollywood has proven that you should always strive to be what you are not. If you are a brown person bleach your skin. If you are white use a tanning bed. Black Examples Nicki Minaj and MJ White Examples Donald Trump and the cast of The Jersey Shore.
dee62383 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:56 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Michael Jackson wasnt actually trying to be white. He had extensive vitiligo, which is an autoimmune condition.
deveets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:53 on January 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna have to side with the speculators on the MJ thing. MJ was the human embodiment of a monochrome fucking gradient. Knowing his body issues and seeing the change of his skin tone throughout his life is too extreme to be explained by some skin condition. Either way there are tons of other examples like lil kim or sammy sosa.
BroJackson_ ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:28 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wear the proper fitting clothes. As a general statement, people probably buy a size big. Fitted/slim fit =/= skinny fit. Either find a brand that has a proper cut for you, or find a good tailor. A $20 shirt that fits you is WAY better looking than a $200 shirt that doesn't.
If you're self conscious about your weight, wearing bigger clothes to "hide" it has the opposite effect. It makes you look bigger.
radpandaparty ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:59 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lose weight, right now I think I'm a solid 7 if I lost some weight I could probably be an 8 or an 8.5.
MirapoixFlora ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:31 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drink 8 glasses of water a day. Or just drink more water. So good for skin complexion. Girls ask my secret and when I reply that I rarely drink anything but water, they get a little angry over how simple my answer is.
IAmWhatTheRockCooked ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: Be attractive and interesting
Step 2: Do not be unattractive or uninteresting
kcdwayne ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:13 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not be unattractive!
JimJobJugger ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:14 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be unattractive for a start.
Noob_psybot ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:48 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't be a nerd, seriously, dweebs have and will always be unattractive.
fcb98292 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:51 on January 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Destroy my abs daily. Drink tons of water. And skip solid or stupid foods at dinnertime.
Nice guys finish last. Take no prisoners. Get respect.
Hey, the OP asked for more attractive, not a gentleman.