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[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 14:43:56 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bit.
But you can save a lot on the electric bill if you just pay the large upfront fee of moving it closer to the sun, thus avoiding the need to pay for heating constantly.
Bazzzaa ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:50:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That tank looks like it has a structural frame at the top and I hope it has a glass cover to protect the LED lighting.
Every time a bubble reaches the surface and pops it will splash those with water. That water contains trace elements that will remain on those pieces. Multiplied millions of times that will build up a scale that will stain.
Bazzzaa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea it must or those lights would quickly become a fire hazard.
I don't like bubbles personally I don't think they are natural and I have a saltwater mixed reef tank. If I had any bubbles I would soon have a problem with salt creep.
If you are looking for motion you could use impeller pumps. If cost is not a factor get eco tech mp10 or mp40. They have variable motion. If cost is a factor get a couple of koralia nano impeller pumps.
Blecki ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:29:17 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In practice they can handle a lot more than that generally, your insurance company just isn't going to pay up if it starts failing. If you wanted to be really anal about making sure the floor could handle it you could just make a big (~ 8'x8' would be easy) square of 2 layers of 3/4" plywood and it would do a good job of spreading out the weight.
Funny thing is, actual third world houses are quite often built with concrete block, because the cost of labor is lower. It's first world houses that are more often built with wood.
With a little blackwater extract and a fuckton of plants you could probably breed wild bettas in there.
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[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:31:34 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Will you please elaborate a little on what you did? I'm assuming Indian Almond leaves or oak leaves, and lots of driftwood, right?
I'm looking into going the blackwater route myself.
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[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:36:41 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well thanks for that. I am already running out of space and wife's patience with two 20-gallon tanks and a 2-gallon jarrarium, can't imagine even more buckets filled with water around here.
Mostly I want to make my water a little softer and more acidic than it ends up being right now, to see if I can get my cherry shrimp to breed and to keep my Betta fish happy and healthy.
Thanks for all the info!
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:05:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just got my hands on an RO unit but it needs a few parts before I can hook it up.
I actually need to get a big post together to ask a few questions on water chemistry to further my own understanding of it, in the mean time I'll just be happy with 7.4 PH
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even for me! I was out of the hobby for just ten years, and in that span of time undergravel filters went from being a good option to being almost completely nonexistent!
mr_jawa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:31 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gods, I'd be happy with tap water at 7.4 pH. Mine leaves the tap at 240 gH and 8.6 pH and 44 ppm of nitrates. I love African cichlids so there's that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:35 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eugh, that's some pretty nasty water. The nitrate part, anyway. Oof.
Got any good pics of your tank?
mr_jawa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, 90gal. About 320lbs of base rock. 3 Peacocks, 2 orange leulupis, 3 julidichromis, 3 livingstonii (yeah I know, wrong lake), 1 19 year old eupterus cat. http://imgur.com/a/bYtXf
Just get some Indian almond leaves and put them in your tank.
They leach tanins that dye the water.
They're really really great for Bettas too. The micronutrients they leach are wonderful for Bettas, and best replicate their natural environment. A lot of Betta keepers use them to help heal torn fins.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:34:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's my next step, just need to get to the aquarium store. Hoping to collect a lot of pesticide-free oak leaves this year too for my shrimp tank.
sunisai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you can just do the bucket method. you can get the leaves, and the driftwood, and place them in a bucket of dechlorinated water. did that in the passed when we where breeding bettas. it worked really well. to make the extract. you really only need enough water to just cover the leaves and wood. and just lightly add as it evaporates. in about 2 weeks, you should have some nice blackwater, that is strong enough to put in bottles for the extract. and you can control how dark the water gets. might not* be as cheap as buying the extract, but safer imo, because chances are you will know whats in it. :)
Don't want to rain on your parade, but what shrimp are you getting? Coccinas have a low pH requirement (5), apparently they get sick easily at higher pH.
I haven't put too much thought into the specific shrimp yet because I care more about the bettas but it's my understanding that both the coccina and neocardina shrimp will do well at 6 which is what I'm aiming for
6 is what I'm currently aiming for because I'm not sure I can make it lower and still have a kh high enough to be stable. If I lower it too much then I'll ditch the shrimp idea but I'd rather it be on the high end of ideal and stable than swing around. I'm still experimenting though and I need to watch it happen to really understand how all those parameters interact with each other. It will be a while before anything is added so while I have a general livestock plan now I'm not married to it and it may change as I mess around with things.
I don't even know how I'm here but holy fuck I read this whole thing like a fucking novel... I'm sorry if I'm breaking any rules, I just couldn't not say anything.
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heebath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:37 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really just basic water chemistry and doing your due diligence as a pet owner. You have to provide the correct conditions for the species you want to keep.
Most people don't consider the pH or hardness of their water, but it should absolutely be the first thing they consider. In fact, it's commonly accepted in the hobby that everyone should own a test kit or strips for testing your water...it's just that not everyone does, unfortunately.
You want your pet to thrive, not just survive. That starts by giving them the best possible living conditions most suitable for their species.
There's a lot of science behind keeping a fish in a tank. I'm working on making sense of it haha. this is the resource I've been using. I'll add that for 90% of aquarium fish I won't bother messing with ph
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:38 on June 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I bred betta splendins I always did it in a 5g. The female was usually in a hurricane glass, and I'd periodically release her under supervision. The small size worked so she was forced to interact with the male, but still had enough hiding places in the plants.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:08:08 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably aware, but since you've bred rubra, I might as well bring it up anyway.
Essentially, B. rubra has a close relative, B. dennisyongi, that is often mistaken for rubra. As a result, aquarium examples of rubra could be dennisyongi or hybrids.
Also, do you mind sharing your strategy to breed them? I'm planning on keeping pugnax.
TheGute ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:49:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually hadn't read about that, I'll have to look into it. Thanks!
And I don't have a super regimented method. I keep a pair in a 15 gallon with some driftwood and a ton of moss. I boil alder cones for a supply of black water and then just let them do their thing. I let the fry stay in with the parents and I get a decent survival rate
How do you keep moss alive? Mine barely grow at all. They don't die, but they don't grow either. I may have to go for indian almond leaves for black water it seems.
TheGute ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:11 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just dose flourish excel and use a finned stingray light.
I've used Indian almond leaves from time to time, but I prefer alder cones just because I can go outside and get them for free lol
Well, B. splendens found in the shop have better stamina and are much more aggressive than their wild counterparts, so it is possible to argue that B. splendens has been domesticated somewhat.
Yup. Goldfish and koi are the classic example, but really lots of aquarium fish are properly domesticated in the classic sense...color variation, behavioral differences from wildtypes, adaptations to surviving and breeding in captivity.
Zookeeper/educator here- A captive animal is still a wild animal, unless it's a domestic species. Contrary to popular belief, tamed/=domestic. That said, all the fancy breed fish we have now fit the definition of domestic.
Seriously speaking though, how often would you actually have to clean this size of a tank if you only had a single fish in it? I can't imagine the little bugger makin' enough poop to dirty it up anytime soon.
adcas ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 06:29:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throw some water lettuce on top and you'll never need to, honestly. Look up Walstad tanks, they're badass!
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:02:05 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP but I did a 125 gallon tank like that with a betta in it. Other occupants included; marble hatchets, rummy nose rasboras, neon green rasboras, lemon tetras, cardinals and a red tailed shark. Annnd that was maybe 1/2 stocked when I had to take it down :( was wondering if cories would play nice with the shark. The schools were amazing to watch.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:44:52 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds amazing. I remember my parents' 55-gallon from when I was a kid, they had a school of 30 neons and a bunch of mollies in there. The neons would school and split all the time--watching them is probably what got me into the hobby in the first place!
It really was. All corners of the tank had some kind of activity. And hide and go seek with the shark was fun to play on guests. Up till that tank I hadn't had propper schooling species- they were all schoaling and low numbers. 14 rummy nose rasboras let me tell you! Tight school everywhere except for that ONE guy whos a little slow so when HE catches up everybody gets turned around and now the whole things turned back around. Word to the wise-rummys do NOT like pure cold water changes. Oops. Didn't lose any but learned my lesson there! The neon green rasboras swarmed like bees. Seemed kinda meh but I ended up with only 5 :( all my schools were supposed to be 12+. I know a guy who did a 75 gallon neon tank. That thing was mesmerizing to watch. XD
anguas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 180 has a betta in it. And rainbows, tetras, etc!
I gotta know more. How long's the betta going to be the sole fish? I wonder what their behavior is like in a tank that size... does he explore the space?
I read somewhere that with a tank of this size or more, you can actually have 2 male bettas, so long as they have a place to run away if they do fight (assuming theyre not both very aggressive)
Not necessarily, I'd imagine Betta males in the wild would choose to avoid each other rather than fight so in a tank this big that could replicate their natural environment, they would just swim away from each other. Betta males fight in small tanks because of confined space.
Betta fights used to be a thing. Well they still are, but the point is bettas were once bred almost exclusively to be aggressive little fucks. At this point though you probably could house two or three bettas in this tank just fine. They fight for territory, so if they have more than they care to defend they just kinda flare up at each other and then swim away.
also you might want to lower the water height. it will put stress on him to swim that high to get air. and put things for him to rest on near the top attached to the glass by suction cups and floating plants he can rest on at night and during the day. and a few cups cut in half for blowing bubbles in atached to the glass at the top and also a few homemade coconut caves :) they love those!!!
ah ok great :) i know they do get tired swimming to the surface so thats good you have floating debris for him( they prefer shorter distances to swim up and down for air)
want info on thai plants? i noticed they go nuts once they see their native thai plants (in a good way)
Howlibu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:58 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, at the moment he is just hiding behind a rock. He changes which rock he hides behind frequently though. I am hoping he builds the confidence to come out some more!
I must have spent about ยฃ3000 at this point. It will actually cost significantly more, with the price of fish, plus the ongoing cost of fish food and electricity.
sujini2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:37 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a goooorgeous tank! What kind of tank and stand is that? Could you post a link? Thanks in advance!
Have you ever considered a female sorority? My sister has a group of 13 living together. She breeds bettas so she has been able to find the right ladies to get along with each other for a successful sorority tank.
PETA broke into a friends house, stole his dog, then put it to sleep.
He had videos of the people's faces, van, and plates. He was sitting there when the cop ran the plates came back registered to a local peta chapter. They easily found out who the 2 in the video were.
Honeat question, if you planted this heavy enough, ams was able to get each betta to prefer their own side.. Could you possibly keep two males in here?
Very heavily planted. Like its a damn forest in there kind of shit.
salgat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:42 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sad thing is that this is still considered small for its natural habitat. People don't realize how small aquariums are compared to the real thing. 5 gallons is like a tiny glass cage.
Yes, but fish don't have the same emotions as humans. They won't be depressed and feel longing for the vast cruel wilderness with its various biotic restrictions. The wild isnt just a big tank, it is extremely stressful.
salgat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:08 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even fish can demonstrate stress and boredom due to small tanks. Mind you I'm not saying 5g is too small for a betta.
A wild betta will stake out about a square meter of territory, and this tank has a footprint close to double that.
salgat ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Territory is not the same as habitat. My point is that these things live in thousands of gallons, which gives perspective on how small these tanks actually are. I'm not saying they can't live fine in these tanks or that this is an issue.
also be sure to change out 10% of the water weekly. and add drops to treat the water weekly. im assuming the tank already has already been prepped with nitrite/nitrate colony ?
Well ofcourse do water changes prevent old tank syndrome, which is just raised NO3 and TDS levels which have slowly been creeping up. Don't understand where you got the 10% for a 300g tank with one betta though?
And what is that prepping of the "nitrite/nitrate colony" you are talking about?
With 1 single betta a water change would more than likely never be needed in a tank this size. Obviously also depends on outside factors but I wouldn't be doing anything with that tank for months if I had a single fish of that size.
Exactly. I was just calling out that person why tries to act like an expert. We have enough of those so-called experts that cause people to come to our subreddit and to forums asking for help because they've been misled. It's everyone parotting eachother of something they once heard without actually understanding why it was said.
it seems to be a common thing here these days, i had a guy tell me a tiny 1cm dead fish that was stuck behind a filter would kill everything in my 80gal yesterday...
the prepping of the nitrite/nitrate colony was referring to cycling the tank that's all (sorry for the wording if that caused confusion)
as for values, I was referring to water level values (and hence the 10% change in water level but again i dont know what that weekly change would be with a 300 g tank)
You didn't respond to me, but to OP. So I just saw this.
Also, you don't get a nitrite and nitrate colony, but a bacteria colony, which consists of nitrosomonas and nitrospira (and some others, but in lower concentrations). It seems like you mostly parrot what you've once read.. Please understand the subjects you are giving advice on before actually giving advice. Using weird concepts like nitrate/nitrite colony (as if you're growing NO2 and NO3) will only confuse new people and it still seems to confuse you. Please don't do this, we have enough issues with bad information as is.
hi as stated i made a mistake in wording lol. all i meant was cycling the tank which as you correctly pointed out was about nitrosomibas and nb (thanks for that clarificarion btw)
no misinformation here. ask away and i will share my info i gained ...no parroting i promise!
I think they look pretty. No idea of the betta's opinion.
hyene ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:19 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Betta's love to build bubble nests, which are destroyed by bubblers. but bubblers are great for aeration/stagnation so maybe keep one, or move them both to one side of the tank so betta has a quiet spot on the other side. when i have bettas i usually make sure they have a spot where they can build bubble nests in a quiet corner with some moss or floating plants.
You built that tank for BETTA?? Ohhhkay. Seems like a waste for just bettas. I have a 55 gallon tank with lots of community fish and the betta is fine.
Other fish will join him eventually, but i wanted to have one happy betta first!
drteq ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 00:39:28 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*
It seems like you're cycling a new tank with a betta? It is swimming around / twitching which looks bad to me.
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Keep downvoting me, but my concern with cycling has nothing to do with the ammonia load from one fish. From my experience the tank itself fluctuating between the nitrate/nitrite battle still causes massive issues during this time unless properly monitored. Have killed many fish in many tanks and was simply pointing it out. So .i.
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drteq ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest if the OP has been on this sub long enough to know about the betta-tank-size circlejerk, OP knows about cycling.
With a tank that big, you could probably dump in a school of tetras and it wouldn't matter. Fish-in cycling works with larger tanks. Imagine cycling that by dumping in large amounts of pure ammonia daily...fuck that
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:16:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rofl. How can you judge that?
Oooh the tank is clean, mustn't be cycled OP IS LITERALLY SATAN
send me a private message and i will give you the name of the healthiest food to feed your betta and also the plants to get for him. also what i used to treat and test the water weekly. good luck! :)))
FatGecko5 ยท 2434 points ยท Posted at 22:43:24 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly you're better off just buying lake superior for your betta, he would be a lot happier in that much space
NuclearElevator ยท 310 points ยท Posted at 03:40:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Caspian is larger, but I think it's too saline by the Iranian coast.
jordgubbe_head ยท 170 points ยท Posted at 04:46:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too cold, you would need a huge heater. Just think of the electric bill!
ixijimixi ยท 123 points ยท Posted at 05:03:39 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There goes my suggestion that OP just rent Europa
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[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 14:43:56 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bit.
But you can save a lot on the electric bill if you just pay the large upfront fee of moving it closer to the sun, thus avoiding the need to pay for heating constantly.
ixijimixi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:55:37 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe just make a deal with Io
typical83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:21 on October 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Despite the incredible vulcanism, the average surface temperature on Io is still way too cold for pretty much any Earth life.
NettleGnome ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:18:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many countries in Europe has Europa as a name for the continent. Sweden for example.
Sventertainer ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:31:44 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can we reroute Yellowstone's magma chamber?
theideanator ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:36:13 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention that UP power is ridiculously expensive.
jordgubbe_head ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:19:52 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, I actually live in the western UP. It's incredibly expensive!
Plus we're having another power plant shutting down, so it'll likely be getting more expensive soon...
MaDrAv ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:24:23 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fellow Yooper checking in just because =]
jordgubbe_head ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:00 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yay! I love seeing more Yoopers! =3
theideanator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:01 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a troll who goes to Tech. The UP is fucking amazing.
jordgubbe_head ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:52 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a flatlander who goes to tech! I love it here, never want to leave
theideanator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:21 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. It is such a shame that there aren't any good jobs in my field in the area.
Diplomjodler ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 09:32:21 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously! OP is a monster for keeping the poor thing in such a tiny tank!
Bazzzaa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:26:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The staining that will occur from those bubbles are not worth it. If you need to incorporate movement use an impeller.
Matacks607 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:13:42 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would bubbles cause straining?
Bazzzaa ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:50:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That tank looks like it has a structural frame at the top and I hope it has a glass cover to protect the LED lighting. Every time a bubble reaches the surface and pops it will splash those with water. That water contains trace elements that will remain on those pieces. Multiplied millions of times that will build up a scale that will stain.
Matacks607 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:06:36 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The horror!!
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:07 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed the tank does have a glass cover.
Bazzzaa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea it must or those lights would quickly become a fire hazard. I don't like bubbles personally I don't think they are natural and I have a saltwater mixed reef tank. If I had any bubbles I would soon have a problem with salt creep. If you are looking for motion you could use impeller pumps. If cost is not a factor get eco tech mp10 or mp40. They have variable motion. If cost is a factor get a couple of koralia nano impeller pumps.
Blecki ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:29:17 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dunno but they do look stupid.
tjsaccio ยท 423 points ยท Posted at 22:27:46 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
300 gal? whistles nice.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 22:29:48 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. 102" ร 30" ร 24" (LรHรW)
liedel ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 03:13:10 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have to worry about the weight of the tank affecting your house?
5illy_billy ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 03:34:32 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine you have to. That's 1.2 tons of water right there (8lbs/gallon x 300 = 2400 lbs)
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 08:32:19 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It weighs even more than that, if you take into account the stand and glass itself.
IvanIsResting ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 09:11:26 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yo can you become meh sugar daddy? I bet you have a pool :C
StellisAequus ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 09:20:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah it's in the gif
IvanIsResting ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:22:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 12:07:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Although i do have a rather large natural pond filled with goldfish and some koi.
StellisAequus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:25:22 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
O post the koi! I love koi
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 08:38:20 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://gfycat.com/SneakyGorgeousFieldmouse
Here you can see the goldfish, after just being fed. Unfortunately, the koi were hiding.
StellisAequus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:44:49 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Op that's a gorgeous hiding hole, thanks for the reply.
BloodyLlama ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:37:52 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're not sitting directly on a concrete foundation then just stick a pillar (a 6x6 would probably be fine) under it and you'll be good.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 08:30:12 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No worries. Concrete floor.
gxmoyano ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:30:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just so you know most residential concrete floors are designed for an extra load of 200 kg/m2 / 40 psf.
BloodyLlama ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:42:46 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In practice they can handle a lot more than that generally, your insurance company just isn't going to pay up if it starts failing. If you wanted to be really anal about making sure the floor could handle it you could just make a big (~ 8'x8' would be easy) square of 2 layers of 3/4" plywood and it would do a good job of spreading out the weight.
AppleBerryPoo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:07:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not if it's in the basement!
Harperhampshirian ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:26:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd imagine that's why most tanks are wide and not tall; spread the load.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:30:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only if you live in some third world country where houses are built with wood
Dinguskhan91 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 04:49:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my house is made of wood in australia :(
relationship_tom ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 05:02:25 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As is the vast majority in Canada/US. I think they're shitposting.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:21:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's something even little kids know... from the Three Little Pigs story and all
atomfullerene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing is, actual third world houses are quite often built with concrete block, because the cost of labor is lower. It's first world houses that are more often built with wood.
laridaes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:00 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My house is concrete as well and it is nothing fancy.
GavinZac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:42:47 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
BloodyLlama ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:38:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most houses are built with wood. It's relatively cheap, easy to work with, and easy to modify in the future.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:46 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Metal shed master race.
Raltie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:51 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta look at the PSI more than anything. A small contact with the floor, like four 2x4 legs, would most certainly do damage to anything not concrete.
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 921 points ยท Posted at 23:46:27 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that this is a shitpost but:
With a little blackwater extract and a fuckton of plants you could probably breed wild bettas in there.
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[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:31:34 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Will you please elaborate a little on what you did? I'm assuming Indian Almond leaves or oak leaves, and lots of driftwood, right?
I'm looking into going the blackwater route myself.
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[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:36:41 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well thanks for that. I am already running out of space and wife's patience with two 20-gallon tanks and a 2-gallon jarrarium, can't imagine even more buckets filled with water around here.
Mostly I want to make my water a little softer and more acidic than it ends up being right now, to see if I can get my cherry shrimp to breed and to keep my Betta fish happy and healthy.
Thanks for all the info!
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:05:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just got my hands on an RO unit but it needs a few parts before I can hook it up.
I actually need to get a big post together to ask a few questions on water chemistry to further my own understanding of it, in the mean time I'll just be happy with 7.4 PH
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even for me! I was out of the hobby for just ten years, and in that span of time undergravel filters went from being a good option to being almost completely nonexistent!
mr_jawa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:31 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gods, I'd be happy with tap water at 7.4 pH. Mine leaves the tap at 240 gH and 8.6 pH and 44 ppm of nitrates. I love African cichlids so there's that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:35 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eugh, that's some pretty nasty water. The nitrate part, anyway. Oof.
Got any good pics of your tank?
mr_jawa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, 90gal. About 320lbs of base rock. 3 Peacocks, 2 orange leulupis, 3 julidichromis, 3 livingstonii (yeah I know, wrong lake), 1 19 year old eupterus cat.
http://imgur.com/a/bYtXf
BillieRubenCamGirl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:27:46 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*
Just get some Indian almond leaves and put them in your tank.
They leach tanins that dye the water.
They're really really great for Bettas too. The micronutrients they leach are wonderful for Bettas, and best replicate their natural environment. A lot of Betta keepers use them to help heal torn fins.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:34:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's my next step, just need to get to the aquarium store. Hoping to collect a lot of pesticide-free oak leaves this year too for my shrimp tank.
BillieRubenCamGirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:49:51 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:) have fun!
sunisai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you can just do the bucket method. you can get the leaves, and the driftwood, and place them in a bucket of dechlorinated water. did that in the passed when we where breeding bettas. it worked really well. to make the extract. you really only need enough water to just cover the leaves and wood. and just lightly add as it evaporates. in about 2 weeks, you should have some nice blackwater, that is strong enough to put in bottles for the extract. and you can control how dark the water gets. might not* be as cheap as buying the extract, but safer imo, because chances are you will know whats in it. :)
CrypticCorn ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 00:19:47 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd have much more success getting 10 20 gallons and breeding10 different species of wild betta haha
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 00:25:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's if you want to be a dedicated betta breeder.
Personally I just want to replenish stock.
CrypticCorn ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 00:37:23 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As it is I'm working on setting up my 5 gallon for my first pair of wild bettas so I'd have a ways to go before attempting either of those plans haha
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:01:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't 5 gal a little small? Unless you're keeping coccina complex bettas.
CrypticCorn ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:25:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what I'm planning! 2 coccinas and some shrimp
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:38:53 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't want to rain on your parade, but what shrimp are you getting? Coccinas have a low pH requirement (5), apparently they get sick easily at higher pH.
CrypticCorn ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:58:44 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't put too much thought into the specific shrimp yet because I care more about the bettas but it's my understanding that both the coccina and neocardina shrimp will do well at 6 which is what I'm aiming for
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:06:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
6 is actually too low for neocaridina and 6 is at the high end for coccina.
Why not go for pugnax instead? Those are close to splendens in hardiness.
CrypticCorn ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:28:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
6 is what I'm currently aiming for because I'm not sure I can make it lower and still have a kh high enough to be stable. If I lower it too much then I'll ditch the shrimp idea but I'd rather it be on the high end of ideal and stable than swing around. I'm still experimenting though and I need to watch it happen to really understand how all those parameters interact with each other. It will be a while before anything is added so while I have a general livestock plan now I'm not married to it and it may change as I mess around with things.
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:21 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great to hear. I hope you succeed.
roofied_elephant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:35:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even know how I'm here but holy fuck I read this whole thing like a fucking novel... I'm sorry if I'm breaking any rules, I just couldn't not say anything.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:50:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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heebath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:37 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really just basic water chemistry and doing your due diligence as a pet owner. You have to provide the correct conditions for the species you want to keep.
Most people don't consider the pH or hardness of their water, but it should absolutely be the first thing they consider. In fact, it's commonly accepted in the hobby that everyone should own a test kit or strips for testing your water...it's just that not everyone does, unfortunately.
You want your pet to thrive, not just survive. That starts by giving them the best possible living conditions most suitable for their species.
CrypticCorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a lot of science behind keeping a fish in a tank. I'm working on making sense of it haha. this is the resource I've been using. I'll add that for 90% of aquarium fish I won't bother messing with ph
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:38 on June 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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CrypticCorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:24 on June 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha! It just draws you in, doesn't it?
CrypticCorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:18 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a lot of science behind keeping a fish in a tank. I'm working on making sense of it haha. this is the resource I've been using
solinaceae ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:15:18 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I bred betta splendins I always did it in a 5g. The female was usually in a hurricane glass, and I'd periodically release her under supervision. The small size worked so she was forced to interact with the male, but still had enough hiding places in the plants.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:08:08 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PotassiumTriiodide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:22 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pocket type much?
TheGute ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:34:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My betta rubra have bred 7 or 8 times in my 15 gallon and my pallifinas have bred in my 55 gallon. So I'm sure a 300 would be great!
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:10:23 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably aware, but since you've bred rubra, I might as well bring it up anyway.
Essentially, B. rubra has a close relative, B. dennisyongi, that is often mistaken for rubra. As a result, aquarium examples of rubra could be dennisyongi or hybrids.
To distinguish them, read this paper: http://lkcnhm.nus.edu.sg/nus/pdf/PUBLICATION/Raffles%20Bulletin%20of%20Zoology/Past%20Volumes/RBZ%2061(1)/61rbz323-330.pdf
Also, do you mind sharing your strategy to breed them? I'm planning on keeping pugnax.
TheGute ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:49:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually hadn't read about that, I'll have to look into it. Thanks! And I don't have a super regimented method. I keep a pair in a 15 gallon with some driftwood and a ton of moss. I boil alder cones for a supply of black water and then just let them do their thing. I let the fry stay in with the parents and I get a decent survival rate
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:58:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you keep moss alive? Mine barely grow at all. They don't die, but they don't grow either. I may have to go for indian almond leaves for black water it seems.
TheGute ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:11 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just dose flourish excel and use a finned stingray light. I've used Indian almond leaves from time to time, but I prefer alder cones just because I can go outside and get them for free lol
meantism ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:48:41 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then sell them in little plastic tubs at the mart!
myweed1esbigger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:19:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they wild if they're bread in a tank?
Pickie_Beecher ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:58:10 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donut know.
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:26 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, technically no. But wild betta is used to refer to any betta that isn't domesticated B. splendens.
treycartier91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:34 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is any fish ever really "domesticated"?
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:39:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, B. splendens found in the shop have better stamina and are much more aggressive than their wild counterparts, so it is possible to argue that B. splendens has been domesticated somewhat.
has_a_bigger_dick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:50 on August 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are they like that because they were actually bred to fight or some shit?
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:24 on August 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. B. splendens and B. smaragdina are the traditional fighters of thailand, and B. splendens was bred even harder for aggressiveness.
atomfullerene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:16 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Goldfish and koi are the classic example, but really lots of aquarium fish are properly domesticated in the classic sense...color variation, behavioral differences from wildtypes, adaptations to surviving and breeding in captivity.
IggySorcha ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:08:10 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zookeeper/educator here- A captive animal is still a wild animal, unless it's a domestic species. Contrary to popular belief, tamed/=domestic. That said, all the fancy breed fish we have now fit the definition of domestic.
aDeadSoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:31 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He needs some plants closer to the water level, honestly.
HELP_MANBABIESGOTME ยท 497 points ยท Posted at 00:22:22 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their native habitat is a rice paddy so until you can replicate that size, its animal abuse
/s
But seriously, you kept zooming out and i expected it to stop 3 different times. What a massive tank. Im jealous as fuck.
MeanMug337 ยท 506 points ยท Posted at 22:12:49 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, with a tank that size you'll have to do 500-1000% water changes twice a day, I would recommend looking into a bigger tank. /s
SexyMrSkeltal ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 06:24:13 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously speaking though, how often would you actually have to clean this size of a tank if you only had a single fish in it? I can't imagine the little bugger makin' enough poop to dirty it up anytime soon.
adcas ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 06:29:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throw some water lettuce on top and you'll never need to, honestly. Look up Walstad tanks, they're badass!
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:02:05 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit now I want a walstad tank
laridaes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:29:04 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is my future!goal. I have the perfect place for it, just not the $$ to shell out just yet. (I have learned so much from this thread lol).
CatManFoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:38 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm triggered
f0rkz ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 00:05:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In all seriousness, what else is going in there?
[deleted] ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 00:32:34 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seconding this, hoping OP tells us. This is a bomb-ass space and I hope there's going to be a couple big schools of something or other.
Were it mine, it'd be Cardinal Tetras and Cory Cats.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 08:35:57 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what is going in there
cynta ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:12:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, I would love to see some pictures once you've got all the tetras in, a school that big would be awesome.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:21:36 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cardinals possibly next week. Will be sure to update!
yaknowthatoneguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:51:29 on June 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, he stole my idea. I want to do they same with my 110 but funds are low and its just sitting in my garage at the moment.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:19:58 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow. I sincerely hope you post a lot of pictures in the future. I think I'm most excited about the kuhli loaches LOL.
atomfullerene ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:43 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like a whole bowl of noodles
kko228 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So excited for those bleeding hearts, they look so bad ass in larger schools.
-WISCONSIN- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100 Cardinal Tetras! :)
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:56 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to look amazing!
BirdLadySadie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:22 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of brick did the site shit when you put the Betta in there as well? NOT COMPATIBLE NOT COMPATIBLE TOO AGGRESSIVE?!?!?
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:12 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those angelfish are not going in for quite a while... The betta can be moved out before then.
BirdLadySadie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:29:25 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I know! I just like how upset it gets when I mess around with combos just to see stocking percentage.
mini4x ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:57:34 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
50 dwarf corys and 50 cpds
ISettleCATAN ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:02:00 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes!!! You need some red though. Harlequin Rasbora or cherry barbs? But Barb's don't school I'm told.
_OP_is_A_ ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:10:57 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From /r/all... I seem to have gotten separated from my group. We usually talk about computer parts and methods to keeping cats off counter tops.
Could you please point me back to safety? Thanks!
Flail77 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 13:47:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NOOO.
Dive into our hobby and watch us waste large amounts of money on fish.
jej1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:17 on June 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cherry barbs
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:14 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be pretty neat. I think I'd throw in a bunch of cherry shrimp too.
KaraWolf ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:22:07 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP but I did a 125 gallon tank like that with a betta in it. Other occupants included; marble hatchets, rummy nose rasboras, neon green rasboras, lemon tetras, cardinals and a red tailed shark. Annnd that was maybe 1/2 stocked when I had to take it down :( was wondering if cories would play nice with the shark. The schools were amazing to watch.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:44:52 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds amazing. I remember my parents' 55-gallon from when I was a kid, they had a school of 30 neons and a bunch of mollies in there. The neons would school and split all the time--watching them is probably what got me into the hobby in the first place!
KaraWolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:12:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really was. All corners of the tank had some kind of activity. And hide and go seek with the shark was fun to play on guests. Up till that tank I hadn't had propper schooling species- they were all schoaling and low numbers. 14 rummy nose rasboras let me tell you! Tight school everywhere except for that ONE guy whos a little slow so when HE catches up everybody gets turned around and now the whole things turned back around. Word to the wise-rummys do NOT like pure cold water changes. Oops. Didn't lose any but learned my lesson there! The neon green rasboras swarmed like bees. Seemed kinda meh but I ended up with only 5 :( all my schools were supposed to be 12+. I know a guy who did a 75 gallon neon tank. That thing was mesmerizing to watch. XD
anguas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 180 has a betta in it. And rainbows, tetras, etc!
Plumbus4Sale ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:43:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throw some Rummy Nose Tetras in there too for them to be schooling through the tank.
DJBoost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:08:39 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cardinal Tetra and the Cory Cats is a great name for a band.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:47 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Building a big ass shrimp colony.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 08:35:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what else is going in there
As the angelfish will probably try to eat the smaller fish, i will rehome them once they grow to that size.
FishInferno ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:48:53 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100 Cardinals. Damn.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:30:58 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
14% over stocked, you scum! Also is the tank drilled? I didn't see any filters. If you are doing a sump, lets get a peak at Dat set up.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:34:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2 FX6, hidden in the corners. Plenty of filtration capacity to handle 14% overstock.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:37:49 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. Nice set up.
GavinZac ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:43:13 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Otters
cvega88 ยท 240 points ยท Posted at 22:22:40 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The tanks seems to be a bit overstocked but you may be able to get away with adding a couple of snails for clean up crew.
alaskafish ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:13:12 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just buy a pleco. They're eat the poop.
/s
BirdLadySadie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:03:25 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sucker fish*
elemexe ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 05:06:07 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No he's gonna drown in all that water
witchgem ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 04:37:44 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You fool, they grow to the size of the tank
otp1144 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 08:09:35 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'd keep one
KjoeLjan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:34:28 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesnt their tail usually drop like a sad, wet feather when they're out of the water?
Mediocre photoshop otherwise though.
86413518473465 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:15 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dude in the back is holding it up.
maccachin ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 00:56:17 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn that's a nice tank, please post pics when you're finished stocking it
Or not, you could just have him be in there and he'd be the most spoiled betta in the world and hopefully live like 10 years to thank you lol
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:37:28 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will do.
This is what else is going in there
trshtehdsh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:57:05 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so jealous. Good looking list.
jroddie4 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:20:38 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
where's the sucker fish
I was promised sucker fishes
Quidfacis_ ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:55:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're the sucker, fish!
jroddie4 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:08:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH NOOOOOO
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:39:02 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He will be joining them soon enough.
https://gfycat.com/ScaryWelcomeGosling
That is an old video, he has grown quite a bit since then...
BirdLadySadie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like a little sturgeon!
sureletsrace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:19 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh wow he is absolutely beautiful.
itspotatohhhhhhhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:03 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is that?
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:28 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chinese algae eater.
itspotatohhhhhhhh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like it
AsRiversRunRed ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 06:08:37 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you actually take my suggestion and put a single beta in there?
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 08:55:10 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I mentioned you in an earlier comment!
AsRiversRunRed ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:47:28 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ holy fuck
B_Huij ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 22:07:55 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not even close. You need one that is at least 5 gallons.
ballz27 ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 23:32:10 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know in the wild, they have the whole lake to themselves. This will not do :)
But seriously, very nice tank. Wow
Devilishlygood98 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:53:48 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me laugh way too hard to be honest
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:56:03 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too small. Clearly animal abuse. A pond is the min size per betta
Faolan360 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:56:52 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just a really nice looking betta on top of that.
I_Once_Was_lesson25 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:26:44 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try to add 1 or 2 more gallons and you'll be good.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:10:27 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks to /u/AsRiversRunRed for suggesting the idea!
_RexDart ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:53:52 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gotta know more. How long's the betta going to be the sole fish? I wonder what their behavior is like in a tank that size... does he explore the space?
Latte-Fun ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:57:07 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I mean, how do you even feed him? How do you alert him of an upcoming feeding so he can find the food?
Captain_Taggart ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 02:45:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For my dumber/blind fish, I have a turkey baster that I use to blow food right in their face.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats alot deeper than a turkey baster can reach.
JenniiXCore ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:26:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what your arms are for
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:42:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am going to feed him flakes with a pair of long tweezers.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:53:42 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
isn't it bad for you to stick your hands/arms into the water?
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:42:21 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not at all. (as long as there is no soap residue, ect.)
-Oish- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:51 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u/punkypears lol
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:32:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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JosVermeulen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No name-calling.
punkypears ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:13 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's my friend don't worry :)
lordtuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:03 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rinse your arms with cold water for 1-2 minutes and you're fine
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lordtuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:03 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I'm good
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๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:49 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have left some pellets on the bottom for him to find, although i am going to feed him some flakes with a pair of long tweezers.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:40:46 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He is still getting used to such a huge tank.
This is what else is going in there, in time
AsRiversRunRed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:18 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ you're welcome
PrincessSnowy_ ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:24:41 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks overstocked tbh
INeededACoolerName ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:24:17 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just want to see more videos of him swimming around and being happy in there
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will take more over time!
TRGB ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:06:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You betta believe it!
bignose703 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:14:46 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even PETA can't be mad about that.
JaxenGrey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:24:35 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should crosspost this over at /r/bettafish. They'd find it just as hilarious.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Done.
Lilsully81 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:28:58 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
very nice aquascape
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nowhere near finished!
zipybublelipz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:02:23 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you this made me laugh quite loud and obnoxiously
Bid325 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:16:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like the happiest beta fish on the planet
Redebo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:48:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That'll do pig. That'll do.
MetaByte7 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:29:51 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere that with a tank of this size or more, you can actually have 2 male bettas, so long as they have a place to run away if they do fight (assuming theyre not both very aggressive)
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:45:06 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Just going to keep the one.
TheGenesect ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:28:36 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a video on YouTube where a guy has a 500(?) gallon tank with 2 males and a 1 female. It's heavily planted and has a ton of other fish too.
treecko4ubers ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:49:52 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still a bad idea.
CrownTheKingSlayer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:40:57 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily, I'd imagine Betta males in the wild would choose to avoid each other rather than fight so in a tank this big that could replicate their natural environment, they would just swim away from each other. Betta males fight in small tanks because of confined space.
PotassiumTriiodide ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:07:18 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And wild bettas are generally not the deranged lunatics store bettas are.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:49:36 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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2074red2074 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:13:28 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Betta fights used to be a thing. Well they still are, but the point is bettas were once bred almost exclusively to be aggressive little fucks. At this point though you probably could house two or three bettas in this tank just fine. They fight for territory, so if they have more than they care to defend they just kinda flare up at each other and then swim away.
EvilDetectingDog ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:59:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Selective breeding both for colour and aggression
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:10:03 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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BirdLadySadie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:50 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heh
Torachi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:21:03 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that's one heck of a tank.
oxygenvoyage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:08 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol nice. Super spoiled. ๐๐ป
TeddyV ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:00:08 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a Betta Paradise!! Great Job! So how often do you do water changes?
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever they are needed. (not very often at this point!)
happuning ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:11:49 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u/adcas u/how_fedorable think it's big enough?
adcas ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:51:16 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jfc no don't you know bettas need 5000 gallons and real heritage strain rice to feel at home
/s
dogowner32 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:46:56 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should give that betta buddies, with a tank that large you could have 25+ male betta buddies /s
2074red2074 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:24 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You probably could have two or three though.
equestrian123123 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:02:39 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can we get a beta cam on this tank?
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:23 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not. Although i might look into it...
nanozeus2014 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:39:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also you might want to lower the water height. it will put stress on him to swim that high to get air. and put things for him to rest on near the top attached to the glass by suction cups and floating plants he can rest on at night and during the day. and a few cups cut in half for blowing bubbles in atached to the glass at the top and also a few homemade coconut caves :) they love those!!!
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:53:11 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen him swim to the surface with no difficulty whatsoever, he could easily rest on a piece of the driftwood if he needed.
nanozeus2014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:09:50 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah ok great :) i know they do get tired swimming to the surface so thats good you have floating debris for him( they prefer shorter distances to swim up and down for air)
want info on thai plants? i noticed they go nuts once they see their native thai plants (in a good way)
Howlibu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:58 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got a list?
TheMedusasCascade ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:20:25 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pffffft this made me laugh
dilpickle98 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:08:52 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, gtfo
ellierowen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:18 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, he must be such a happy boy. This is so crazy huge and uncommon it warms my heart. :)
somethinglikesalsa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:07:15 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I guess.
Greenmoldycows ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:57:42 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna need updates on this little guy..
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:46:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There will be plenty!
nanozeus2014 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:20:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and i thought my 20 gallon was big for my betta lol
youre doing it right!!
now all you need are thai aquatic plants (for example an onion plant) from florida nurseries (online shipped)
your betta will behave very differently and be extremely happy and active once you put real thai plants in the tank
nanozeus2014 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:45:38 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the prepping i meant as cycling before putting in the betta (sorry for the wording)
im guessing because its such a large tank he wouldnt need to replace 30 gallons weekly
Juts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:34:39 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sheeet i hope that one sturdy fucking cabinet.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:58:16 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope so too!
https://i.redd.it/g14k4nfg6f1z.jpg
Here is the frame early in construction (more stregthening was added)
fukmeded ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:02:36 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are truly a sick person, the tank should be at least twice that size!
aliceunknown ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:08:55 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A little on the small side but if you upgrade soon, I'll turn a blind eye.
SchwiftySqaunch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:56:18 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People on this sub get so butt hurt about bettas its kind of ridiculous. Cheers man thats a beauty of a tank.
sunshinesiren03 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:54:16 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could probably put two or three Betta in, and they would never see each other.
Scales-and-tails ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:06:12 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. I bet that little guy absolutely adores that tank!
dorianrose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's gonna get lost, lol.
BirdLadySadie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:16 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want you to video him in there for hours. I'd watch every minute in earnest.
Somali_Pir8 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:27:45 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
T H I C C
unculturedtrash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:35 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's gotta be one happy fishy.
dirtybitsxxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:02 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of branches are those?
fuzzysqurl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:22 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be multiple kinds but its probably something like manzanita.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:16 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sandblasted manzanita.
dirtybitsxxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
liz236 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yes
HettySwollocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:05:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome! I wouldn't be surprised if you could multiple male bettas in there after adding some more plants.
nanozeus2014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i mean cycling the tank
and changing 10% of the water is recommended weekly as a best practice for freshwater tanks
dank_imagemacro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:22 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I plugged it into aqadvisor (with a generic filter for 300 gallons) and got a recomended water change schedule of 0%/week...
http://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php?AquTankName=&AquListBoxTank=Choose&AquTankLength=96&AquTankDepth=24&AquTankHeight=30&AquListBoxFilter=User+Defined&AquTextFilterRate=300++&AquListBoxFilter2=Choose&AquTextFilterRate2=N%2FA+&AquFilterString=betta&AquListBoxChooser=Betta+%5BMale%5D+%28Betta+splendens%29&AquTextBoxQuantity=&AquTextBoxRemoveQuantity=&FormSubmit=%3C+Remove&AquListBoxSelected=1+x+Betta+%5BFemale%5D+%28Betta+splendens%29&AlreadySelected=200909300016%3A1%3A%3A%2C200909300017%3A1%3A%3A&FilterMode=Display+all+species&AqTempUnit=C&AqVolUnit=gUS&AqLengthUnit=inch&AqSortType=cname&FilterQuantity=2&AqJuvMode=&AqSpeciesWindowSize=short&AqSearchMode=simple
nanozeus2014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:54 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
excellent. i think with your setup since its so large you prolly dont need to change the water since you have low ammonia levels in so much water
dank_imagemacro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:29 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not my tank, but OP's (I didn't know what filter OP was using so just plugged in a generic 300g)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:46:12 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On god if it ain't this size or close to it people will down-vote you for it lmao!
TheToxicTurtle7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:04:15 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wanna see more, see how he behaves in the tank. I've always wanted to see a betta in a huge tank
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, at the moment he is just hiding behind a rock. He changes which rock he hides behind frequently though. I am hoping he builds the confidence to come out some more!
TheToxicTurtle7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:26 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could actually probably add another 1-2 male bettas if your plants grow out enough or add more visual barriers
MilkPudding ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:23:15 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got my first really big tank, a 90gal, and you're making me feel like scum for putting fish in anything smaller than a 300 LMAO.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:23:57 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
me irl
nanozeus2014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:27:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cool cool :)
AsteroidMiner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:49 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's frickin huge for a betta that I used to catch in rice paddy fields when I was a lot younger.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:02:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OP wants to be able to sleep with the fishes...
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:03:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fish tank is in my bedroom, so i guess you could say that!
CHlMlCHANGAS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:09:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Real talk though, he's so pretty!
PUSClFER ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:13:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got here from /r/all. How much would an aquarium of that size cost? It looks pretty as fuck, but I suspect it's equally expensive.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:02:28 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I must have spent about ยฃ3000 at this point. It will actually cost significantly more, with the price of fish, plus the ongoing cost of fish food and electricity.
sujini2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:37 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a goooorgeous tank! What kind of tank and stand is that? Could you post a link? Thanks in advance!
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:14 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
300 gal tank. 102" ร 30" ร 24" (LรHรW)
I designed the stand myself, although i was not actually the one that put it together.
https://i.redd.it/g14k4nfg6f1z.jpg (early stand construction)
sujini2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:15 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. It turned out so perfect!! Thanks!
keithfa26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:08 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You 100% deserve a RopeFish for this tank OP!
kevin87g ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it is JUST big enough.
Sofalumpkins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever considered a female sorority? My sister has a group of 13 living together. She breeds bettas so she has been able to find the right ladies to get along with each other for a successful sorority tank.
trshtehdsh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:52 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He looks like a happy boy, for sure! Keep us updated on this :)
Buckalaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate you so much. Your tank is amazing.
God_loves_irony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:31 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sarcasm belittles us all. By the way, bettas are a bit too delicate for that size bubbler.
alaskafish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Realistically, if you were to keep this 300 gallon for bettas, could you have more than one in the tank?
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iheartbettas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:32 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The luckiest betta ever!
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:18 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Highly likley!
He is exploring the java fern currently!
https://i.redd.it/5m9otf7s5h1z.jpg
Cat_agitator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:57 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did it reddit
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:29 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my most popular post. Ever. Keep a look out for updates in the future!
Nirvana9832 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:03 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quality post
desucca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:05 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's a decent summer cottage I guess...
Redhead_exterminator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:51 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha big do dem fuckers geet
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a whole lot bigger than he is now, really.
laridaes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:03 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cruelty. Such cruelty. :( Poor little guy. cries
distilledpondwater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:42 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 7 days
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:55 on June 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will have another great update by then!
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dripness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:37:39 on June 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you need more plants imo
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:18 on June 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will be adding more plants as time goes on, as well as the current plants spreading.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:09:05 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask a vegan. They'd rather see him dead in a garbage van than "imprisoned" in a fish tank.
source: am a sarcastic vegan ๐
truckerslife ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:28:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PETA broke into a friends house, stole his dog, then put it to sleep.
He had videos of the people's faces, van, and plates. He was sitting there when the cop ran the plates came back registered to a local peta chapter. They easily found out who the 2 in the video were.
Peta lawyers got them off.
Police said it wasn't uncommon.
SorryAboutLiving ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:08:10 on June 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
KingOfMesopotamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No
nanozeus2014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:21 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also dont put any hollow tubes in his tank because he will get stuck in them and driwn. thats what happened to my betta :(
nanozeus2014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:42 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i do think the water column should be reduced though
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:56:58 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If he shows signs of struggling, there is another, smaller tank ready for him.
nanozeus2014 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:10:55 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
definitely jeep him in that glorious palace. he loves you for it :)))) !!!
nanozeus2014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:00 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*keep ๐
ApexGh0st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:41 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much would a tank like that cost?
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:36 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Current spend is around ยฃ3000. Will be significantly more after the cost of fish and the ongoing cost of food and electricity.
ApexGh0st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:24 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow I bet it will be worth it though :) EDIT, how do you check that the cabinet it's on is strong enough to support all the water?
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:57:44 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best way is to just overbuild/overstrengthen the cabinet, therefore you do not have to worry!
stonecats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:10 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*
don't use air-stones in a planted tank - all you end up doing is out-gassing what little in water diffused co2 fish can generate.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:59:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not running co2 on this tank. All (most) plants will be low light plants
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:23 on June 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely not
Scratch_King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:34 on June 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honeat question, if you planted this heavy enough, ams was able to get each betta to prefer their own side.. Could you possibly keep two males in here?
Very heavily planted. Like its a damn forest in there kind of shit.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:47 on June 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am afraid i do not know the answer to that. Maybe if there were multiple females, to avoid competition? idk.
Rainbow_Guppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:14 on September 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is one spoiled rotten betta
salgat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:42 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sad thing is that this is still considered small for its natural habitat. People don't realize how small aquariums are compared to the real thing. 5 gallons is like a tiny glass cage.
sarahmagoo ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:02:02 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But in their natural habitat they don't use ALL of the space they have, they set up smaller territories within it.
salgat ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:59 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't change how much room they have to swim and be simulated.
sarahmagoo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:13:20 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then I'd say that's the difference between keeping one in a small bowl vs a 5 gallon tank.
Luquitaz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:41:27 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me, the betta doesn't care. You're anthropomorphizing them too much.
MirthSpindle ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:56:00 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but fish don't have the same emotions as humans. They won't be depressed and feel longing for the vast cruel wilderness with its various biotic restrictions. The wild isnt just a big tank, it is extremely stressful.
salgat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:08 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even fish can demonstrate stress and boredom due to small tanks. Mind you I'm not saying 5g is too small for a betta.
MirthSpindle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:14:32 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course they can. But i doubt the fish are sad that they are in a tank as opposed to in the deceptively large expanse of wild aquatic environments.
No excuse to put fish in unsuitable aquariums though.
show_me_ur_fave_rock ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:55:47 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A wild betta will stake out about a square meter of territory, and this tank has a footprint close to double that.
salgat ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Territory is not the same as habitat. My point is that these things live in thousands of gallons, which gives perspective on how small these tanks actually are. I'm not saying they can't live fine in these tanks or that this is an issue.
TheToxicTurtle7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:10 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have probably also become more tolerant over the years of breeding them in small aquariums
Xro ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:56:17 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:17 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Captain_Taggart ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:46:57 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's when you modify how you feed them.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:50:08 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feeding him flakes with long tweezers.
Noshiba6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:49 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just added one to my 55g planted community. I think the pellets remind him of his cup because he only eats flakes with the tetras.
nanozeus2014 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:46 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also be sure to change out 10% of the water weekly. and add drops to treat the water weekly. im assuming the tank already has already been prepped with nitrite/nitrate colony ?
JosVermeulen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:13:58 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would he need to change 10% weekly with a betta in a 300g tank? And what do you mean by "prepped with nitrite/nitrate colony"?
nanozeus2014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:31 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
replacing 10% of the water prevents old tank syndrome :
http://m.drsfostersmith.com/pic/article.cfm?articleid=1466
(not sure if he needs to do it weekly in such a large tank though)
JosVermeulen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:39 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well ofcourse do water changes prevent old tank syndrome, which is just raised NO3 and TDS levels which have slowly been creeping up. Don't understand where you got the 10% for a 300g tank with one betta though?
And what is that prepping of the "nitrite/nitrate colony" you are talking about?
nanozeus2014 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:47:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.ratemyfishtank.com/blog/changing-the-water
JosVermeulen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhm, do you actually understand where these values come from, or are you just parotting what you read on websites without understanding the context?
And once again, what is this prepping of the "nitrite/nitrate colony" you are talking about?
Or is this all something you read somewhere without actually understanding it?
keithfa26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:30 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With 1 single betta a water change would more than likely never be needed in a tank this size. Obviously also depends on outside factors but I wouldn't be doing anything with that tank for months if I had a single fish of that size.
JosVermeulen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:01 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. I was just calling out that person why tries to act like an expert. We have enough of those so-called experts that cause people to come to our subreddit and to forums asking for help because they've been misled. It's everyone parotting eachother of something they once heard without actually understanding why it was said.
keithfa26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:23 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it seems to be a common thing here these days, i had a guy tell me a tiny 1cm dead fish that was stuck behind a filter would kill everything in my 80gal yesterday...
JosVermeulen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:55 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Got a link to that?
keithfa26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i actually deleted it after when the last comment came in
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aquariums/comments/6evj0u/stuck_dead_fish/
JosVermeulen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:46 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that dude didn't know the size of your tank or the size of your fish.
keithfa26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:10 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
possibly but im sure i wrote in the description (maybe not)
nanozeus2014 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:21:36 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the prepping of the nitrite/nitrate colony was referring to cycling the tank that's all (sorry for the wording if that caused confusion)
as for values, I was referring to water level values (and hence the 10% change in water level but again i dont know what that weekly change would be with a 300 g tank)
JosVermeulen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:07:05 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*
You didn't respond to me, but to OP. So I just saw this.
Also, you don't get a nitrite and nitrate colony, but a bacteria colony, which consists of nitrosomonas and nitrospira (and some others, but in lower concentrations). It seems like you mostly parrot what you've once read.. Please understand the subjects you are giving advice on before actually giving advice. Using weird concepts like nitrate/nitrite colony (as if you're growing NO2 and NO3) will only confuse new people and it still seems to confuse you. Please don't do this, we have enough issues with bad information as is.
nanozeus2014 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:50 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hi as stated i made a mistake in wording lol. all i meant was cycling the tank which as you correctly pointed out was about nitrosomibas and nb (thanks for that clarificarion btw)
no misinformation here. ask away and i will share my info i gained ...no parroting i promise!
JosVermeulen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:25:07 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nah i'm good
IKnowWhoYouAreGuy ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:10:42 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I one had a breeding harem of Bettas in a 2 gallon cube and they were quite happy. Anything is possible with a fuckload of live flora...
areyouawhoreornot ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:13:54 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bettas don't need bubblers.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:49:33 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they look pretty. No idea of the betta's opinion.
hyene ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:19 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Betta's love to build bubble nests, which are destroyed by bubblers. but bubblers are great for aeration/stagnation so maybe keep one, or move them both to one side of the tank so betta has a quiet spot on the other side. when i have bettas i usually make sure they have a spot where they can build bubble nests in a quiet corner with some moss or floating plants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufslxrwLifg
flaglerite ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:45 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You built that tank for BETTA?? Ohhhkay. Seems like a waste for just bettas. I have a 55 gallon tank with lots of community fish and the betta is fine.
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:38:50 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other fish will join him eventually, but i wanted to have one happy betta first!
drteq ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 00:39:28 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)*
It seems like you're cycling a new tank with a betta? It is swimming around / twitching which looks bad to me.
EDIT:
Keep downvoting me, but my concern with cycling has nothing to do with the ammonia load from one fish. From my experience the tank itself fluctuating between the nitrate/nitrite battle still causes massive issues during this time unless properly monitored. Have killed many fish in many tanks and was simply pointing it out. So .i.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:16:09 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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drteq ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still looks brand new/empty and one fish.
Captain_Taggart ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:48:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest if the OP has been on this sub long enough to know about the betta-tank-size circlejerk, OP knows about cycling.
trash_dragon ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:05:25 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it was uncycled it would take a ridiculously long time for ammonia to reach detectable levels, especially with plants in the tank.
opheliakitty ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:22:35 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even without the plants. It's like the equivalent of me taking a shit inside a football stadium.
mimefrog ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:34:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me more ...
otp1144 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:12:39 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
50yd line or end zone?
opheliakitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:04 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
End zone all the way, baby.
giant_rat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:53 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With a tank that big, you could probably dump in a school of tetras and it wouldn't matter. Fish-in cycling works with larger tanks. Imagine cycling that by dumping in large amounts of pure ammonia daily...fuck that
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:16:40 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rofl. How can you judge that?
Oooh the tank is clean, mustn't be cycled OP IS LITERALLY SATAN
๐๏ธ catcatcatcaty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:48:43 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do not worry, i will be taking established filter media from my other tanks.
drteq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:11:48 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great!
nanozeus2014 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:36:18 on June 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
send me a private message and i will give you the name of the healthiest food to feed your betta and also the plants to get for him. also what i used to treat and test the water weekly. good luck! :)))