rlgl ยท 1765 points ยท Posted at 19:13:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I recall correctly, didn't they run like a half-year-long "Preserve your free 15gb by clicking OK" campaign? I am quite certain, because I still have my 15gb, and I kept it by opening the link and clicking one button.
[deleted] ยท 617 points ยท Posted at 20:56:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 22:55:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never bought a windows phone but still have 30gb. Are you sure it was a deal for windows phones?
Nope, it was 15 for signing up, then 15 more if you set up auto camera upload. But technically as soon as you set up a Windows phone the backup is enabled, whereas you have to go into settings and check a box for iOS and Android.
Not talking about backups, talking about OneDrive. And since windows phone uses OneDrive for the backup, they get the 15 gig bonus without having to hit extra buttons.
holy smokes. did you email it to everyone in the company? Dropbox had something similar until recently. I had like 20 gb and they reduced it to like 9 or so gb...
Hah. I realize how that reads, its more that I'm incredulous as to how. Your post prompted me to check and see how much I have...I have no idea how I have do much one drive storage though.
No worries. Your username allows for a certain amount of arrogance and braggadocio in your comments. Just a perk of being the world's greatest secret agent.
joneSee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:27:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Microsoft must be old, that IS exactly what they meant. Sometimes EvilCorp TM just can't kill dead competitors enough. Have you heard about the deal for Lotus 1-2-3 users?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:32:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I can't wait till people start complaining that they weren't warned and missed the deadline for a free Windows 10 upgrade.
Caster1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what there is a dead line?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if you're joking...
fisch09 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:56:34 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also have options for permanent upgrades through bing rewards. At least a couple months ago they did.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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fisch09 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out bing rewards you get points for searching with bing after so many you can cash out. If you do the max every day you can get 5 dollars a month in amazon.
Actually your're right. The loyalty bonus apparently is staying since it doesn't have a label saying it will go away.
"The storage limit for all free OneDrive accounts will become 5 GB. If you currently have a free account with a 15 GB storage limit, that limit will reduce to 5 GB. All new free accounts will have 5 GB storage. The 15 GB camera roll storage bonus will also be discontinued for free accounts. These changes will start rolling out in early 2016.
The Android Moto G had something like this but 50GB with Google. They rescinded a year later and left me "Over limit" on everything over 15GB. Couldn't upload anymore until I dropped under.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:10:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cjrobe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:55 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did that but it only extended the expiration date. Mine still shows 25GB of the 30GB will expire by Aug 10th. Are you sure your Microsoft account page for OneDrive doesn't give an expiration date for each additional storage bonus? I'm nearly certain once that expires it'll go back to 5GB, at least for me.
Onedrive isn't a backup solution and doesn't advertise itself that way. It's a way to synchronize your useful stuff so it's available on all devices.
If you think any backup solution for a computer involves the cloud then I don't think you get the point. Do you have any concept of how long it takes to download a computer worth of information?
Plus, it doesn't matter what you want. Servers cost money. So they're going to offer what they can afford and charge what they need.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like a desperate move to get people to stick and subscribe to any Microsoft service. Frankly after these moves on their part I've quit considering OneDrive for cloud storage and have disabled it entirely from Windows.
I have my Onedrive attached to a live.com email account that I never look at. I went into it just now because of this thread, and it has zero emails. I have no idea how I was supposed to know this was coming.
turns out there wasn't an email. it was just word of mouth. Kinda shitty.
SaltTM ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 23:09:04 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the point, Microsoft knows this else they wouldn't have done this in general. Those that cared for their space got reminded for like a year, every news outlet covered that news, etc... reminders leading up to it and lol it's peoples own fault for not paying attention. I think this ultimately lead up to this point because people abusing the unlimited space (literally uploading terabytes of data) and they wanted to regain some hard drive space.
Though I believe they did not email you regarding it because that's too easy. I never got an email about it, found out via twitter/news outlets.
This comment needs to be higher. Not Microsoft's fault op missed the bazillion notifications this was going to happen and missed his opportunity to prevent it.
Edit: wasn't the top comment when I posted this. Glad it took its rightful place.
SVTBert ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:08:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I genuinely do not have any emails on my Microsoft account informing me of this.
Me too. I got the email saying it would be reduced from 15GB to 5GB but I could keep it all if I claimed 1 year free Microsoft office or something. I tried to claim but it said it wasn't available in Australia :(
I said notifications to start with. That would include the popups they do in their "notification" place on the bottom left, and not be exclusively emails. I then had a sentence about how I got Microsoft student emails that I ignore.
You asked "when aren't emails notifications" and I was confused as fuck because I never said they weren't until I replied because I had no clue what the fuck you were getting at.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ME:
I've never gotten an email from Micrsoft telling me about windows or office needing to be updated...
You have to login and do an additional click that they randomly added in. Random stipulation or: Your photos and shit you added before this stipulation are held hostage, pay us now.
That's not the point. It's disingenuous. A form of theft by deception. Like those 'free with rebate' deals you get on electronics but you have to mail in this barcode that the company knows a certain percentage of people will accidentally throw out.
"Oh well it should've been easy to mail a letter/click a button the fault is with you" might mean that they aren't legally liable for anything---but everyone should point out that it is dishonest business practice. The equivalent of neener neener I'm not touching you. Microsoft is a shitty company (for numerous reasons not just this one) and ought to be punished by consumers not using their products whenever possible (which isn't always because they are an anti-competitive monopoly in certain markets).
I mean, when companies rip people off with 'free' rebate offers they are required to state that to need to mail in a barcode or whatever. The fact that they write this in plain text means that no one has grounds to sue them. It doesn't alter the fact that they are disingenuously hoping someone will miss it.
It's almost like you expect that the sort of 'I covered my ass technically' excuse holds any water outside of the context questions of legal liability. As though that flys IRL to also convince those pointing out shitty behavior to change their minds. They are holding people's data hostage for money. It's dishonest. These sorts of dismissive excuses are why people hate lawyers.
I presume it was a free promotion that was utilized way more than they expected, so they decided to slash storage for people that weren't using it or didn't care in order to make it reasonable to continue the program. It wasn't much of a hoop either. I clicked a link in one of several emails I received, took less than 10 seconds. It's not like it was some 2 hour registration with a bunch of personal data, or a monthly requirement to keep clicking links to keep it active.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:51 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People used the free space one drive initially offered to store terabytes of illegally shared material. From what I remember.
A promotion says "you get stuff for a limited amount of time", you take it, then after 6 months it says "well, you can keep it even longer, but click here for that". If you don't click, why the hell do you think you should get anything for free? In what fairyland do you live?
riffdex ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:52:57 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which was a valid complaint against MS when they went through with cutting the plans originally. Why did MS promise us 15 GB if they were unsure of their ability to maintain this obligation? For the record I still have my 15 GB.
I agree, but why would they take it away for not clicking to a website? Just give it to everyone.
jlu97 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:27 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it costs money, and Microsoft a corporation which certainly wouldnt want to waste the minimal ammount of it. I'm not saying it is correct, but that is certainly the reason.
Never got that email or noticed anything about it until they put up a notice when I went to store something "Oh hay you've got 5GB now GL - micro shit" or I would have clicked it
They sent three emails earlier this year. You've already missed the boat.
Jedielf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:13 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was forced to 5gb too, from 15gb. I got plenty of warning. but I still think they are scumbag. I wasn't going to start paying, which is what they wanted. so I had to find a new source to store the excess of 5gb. Plus I even pay yearly for my email.
Xanza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
didn't they run like a half-year-long "Preserve your free 15gb by clicking OK" campaign?
Yes, they did. I ended up getting between 2 and 5 emails about it, too.
Yup, and I actually called MS customer service and told them an issue and the dude gave me 3 free months of 50GB to give me time to move my 25GB out... I guess I am the sucker though because I ended up storing like 35GB now and just gave in and paid the $2 for the 50GB per month, just to have everything in sync all the time. I swear, one day I am going to clean up my onedrive account and cancel the service, but 2 bucks a month was really nothing, so why not. And that is how MS got me hooked into OneDrive
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. I bought the amazon thing for like $5 at christmas where it's usually $50 one year, but fortunately I never used it much.
cd29 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:44:07 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could have swore I had like 25GB free from M$ for awhile. They had Microsoft MyPhone, Windows Mobile cloud sync for everything. Contacts, files, call history, texts, pictures were available online. They also had a LogMeIn-esque service after Vista launched, which was a beta invite-only program that they bundled with my SkyDrive.
Then they went all Azure/OneDrive/Office365/Outlook.com and discontinued MyPhone and their 'Sky' suite. I was sent an e-mail saying I could get all of my files on a DVD set and mailed to me since they had to switch. I opted in and probably paid for the DVD service, but never got them. The only thing I got was an early sign-up and claimed a sweet outlook.com address.
Also, they don't delete anything if you somehow missed that and are over the new limit. They just don't let you upload anything new until you're back under.
So, basically, the OP is 100% full of shit.
KieferO ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 22:34:58 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What really bugged me about that scene, though, was the spacebar. I use spaces, but I don't use the spacebar to insert them (and I definitely don't do 8-space tabstops. That's completely unreadable). I use the tab key like everybody else, and have my IDE translate 1 tab = 4 spaces (2 spaces if I'm doing xml or json).
Spaces master race!
Ohrion ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:10:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree so hard. I cringed along with him while she pushed space 8 times over and over. What modern UI doesn't do auto-spacing/auto-tabulation?
Yup But I am a sucker for HD so I go full res. Not having friends helps me save space for more photos. So it works itself out.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:28:41 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, I have lots of pictures of you.
etinaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was the same way. But that Pied Pier shit is so good, that after comparing side by side, I saw ZERO difference.
cjrobe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:17:13 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon Prime Photos gives you unlimited space for photos of any size, including RAW. I think they're a bunch of idiots for offering that but I'll take advantage of it for now.
the other "safe" like, "all my stuff is gone, because the feds seized the servers" which is what happened last time. I can't weigh in much on that this time, it is meant to be better this time round, but like any "cloud" service, your stuff is only as safe as the parent company...
Aww, if only our CEOs stopped going to info brunches and getting glossy brochures, the outsourcing might stop :(
4 years time, it will be inhouse again, I can bet, but I can't imagine the pain of getting the info back in...
Im guessing you're misunderstanding what each component means. They're nothing mutually exclusive about this if you work to least privilege.
wedgie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:35 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Naw, I'm joking more or less. I use Dropbox as one of my backup sources (nothing much I have is very confidential, and if I do need to backup something remotely that is sensitive, I encrypt it myself), but I know that several services exist that follow proper protocols and standards and meet specifications.
I think eventually they were able to put the files from the mega servers up for a last time download basically or am I confusing that? But I guess on that front you're right, they seem to be more at risk of sweeping law enforcement action
safe as the parent company
Well but not really if they don't have the key they can't leak anything, unless a hacker or law enforcement manage to change out the client software somehow to obtain your key through mega servers.
I think what he is really trying to say is that if they are taken down again, its likely their cloud servers will go down too and so you will lose your files.
The chances of something like that happening to google or microsoft are slim to none.
I mean as far as availability, not content. Also as far as any kind of responsiveness or service. If there is any kind of issues, you will be one of millions. Your complaints won't be worth a damn.
Even as a paying client you will be the bottom of the barrel compared to their enterprise clientele. Working through some enterprise channels, even those are very stratified, and in major issues unless you are at the top you are ignored.
SLAs are of no teeth, what good is saving a few $$ on the month when you missed critical things within your org? It sucks for IT as they look like the bad guys for a what really was a possibly a poor financial decision, they can't influence the external vendor and just feebly log another incident...
again, what I mean is, what happens when you go to login and you get a "Service not available" screen like so many did back with the previous mega debacle? Sure, use your backups. Problem is, a lot of people found out back then what a backup really is - those using it for non-nefarious reasons that is...
Remember, your 1st "copy" elsewhere is just maybe a copy. Your backup should never be a permanently synchronised and online thing like dropbox is (ransomware will happily encrypt that too, and before you are aware of it) and an untested and unverified backup is just a hope and wish rather than a real backup.
There are too many stories, mine included of the backup that was empty, or unreadable, or didn't scoop up everything...
When you mentioned the cops, I thought you were worried about incriminating evidence.
When it comes to "what if I lose my files?" Oh heeeell no, I don't trust any of this "cloud" bullshit for backups. The only backup I use is me, myself, and my NAS.
These clouds are so you can share files with others easily.
It seems fine to me, and if I have anything really important I double back-it up anyways. I'm also using google photos to backup stuff. Just don't forget your password for mega, the system is encrypted to the point where they claim they literally can't do anything but delete the account (requires email verification so someone can't just do it to smite you) if you lost it and the 'master encryption key' file.
Alternatively just make multiple google accounts and then you can easily have access to 60 GBs (if you have an android device or a friend with one, under 'accounts' in settings there is an option to make a new google account and you can rattle them off pretty quickly). They used to prevent you from logging into drive.google.com on a pc with multiple accounts at the same time, but they appear to have stopped doing that.
I've used it for a while, until files I deleted months ago started popping up again in my drive. It messed up my order of files as a lot of things that I update over time suddenly had all the previous versions dotted around which was a huge pain in the ass, and proves they don't delete your data even when you empty your trash bin. Good for storage that doesn't matter all that much like movies, but don't trust it with anything else.
That's neat that they do it automatically for sure. I've actually got an app on my phone called IFTTT that I've configured to also automatically take any picture I take or upload to Facebook directly to my Google Drive account as well. I don't have to do anything, it's all behind the scenes stuff.
It should be noted that the Google CPP guide is NOT a guide that everyone should adhere to. Google's C++ policy translates to, "We were C coders and hated and/or didn't understand C++, and now we're paying for it out the ass with code rot." IIRC, It's even mentioned in the document itself.
They don't use exceptions, for example. Which is outright insane to say blanketly. It makes sense for consoles (many CPUs of which don't even support them), it makes sense for the real-time OS for the Mars Rover (no exceptions, no iostream, no templates, use memory pools for allocations, no operator overloading except new/delete). It does not make sense for general purpose GUI code.
Ranzear ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 23:11:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People who don't confuse presentation with representation.
Tab character is only one byte and you can display it as however many spaces you want on your own goddamn client without fucking up display on other clients.
Yes. Except MOST of the time programmers use both tabs and spaces together. You then guess at the presentation. It's a really stupid argument. If anyone is worried about spaces taking up extra space then I'd say they haven't done much coding on team projects.
What I meant was it is human nature to use spaces and tabs. MOST of the time there will be some spaces and some tabs used for indentation. You use spaces between keywords/variables/tokens/etc. Then you use tabs to flesh out the layout. It's impossible not to do this because you have to use spaces.
You end up with spaces and tabs on the same line. That can't always be fixed easily on different clients. You then have several people "fixing the layout". Spaces can only be a single spaces. There is no problem. Pretty much every environment also has a "use tabs as spaces" option. Use it and never have to screw with tabs again.
Every project I've ever worked on has had a NO TABS rules in the standard. I don't see any argument against it to be honest. Feel free to give me one.
I'm saying use tabs for indenting and spaces for alignment.
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bkuhns ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:06:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Specifying presentation is one thing. Forcing it is another. I want to flip out every time I open a source file at work who's author decided 2 spaces are enough indentation. I can only assume they prefer this so their 15-scope indented code fits horizontally on their screen. Anyway, my brain can't handle that, I have to concentrate so much harder on following the indentation to understand the code. If 2 spaces work for you, great, but why punish me when my brain prefers 4?
Okay, so let's solve this argument once and for all, okay? WE'RE GONNA GO IT! Specify the presentation of the structure of the code using tabs (bare with me). If you want to vertically align things within the structure, use spaces. Yes, really. Now if I have a 4-space tab setting, everything renders fine and the in-line vertical alignment is preserved because that's done with spaces. If someone else decides 3-space tabs are where it's at, the same file will still render perfectly!
I've been doing this for years and have converted several of my co-workers. They've never looked back!
Yeah, but then you have to manage tab stop settings in all of the different tools you use, your editor, your differ, the command line, indexing results, etc. 4 spaces is 4 spaces, whether I'm looking at it in Visual Studio or Vim or Windiff or catted on the command line or whatever. But tab could be 4 en-spaces in one, 8 in another, etc.
I seriously can't tell a difference between their converted photos and mine original. I have a huge library backed up on Photos is crazy. And the best thing is that you can search it using all of these insane Google image recognition algorithms.
Also, if you're in college and your college uses the Google email service, you might also have the unlimited google drive storage bundled with the email service that your college provides to its students.
Domsdey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a legit college and somebody made a slight effort, you are probably on the Google Apps for Education edition and you indeed have unlimited storage.
I am not well informed about the administration colleges, but I bet you're right. I thought that I would try to be as clear and cautious about the potential for the unlimited drive storage, though.
They give you unlimited storage with no compression if you pay for their Apps product. Which also allows you to use gmail for your personal domain name.
Domsdey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you pay for their Apps product.
If you pay for the Unlimited edition for their business product and have more than 4 users.*
If you are on the $5 edition you get 30GB, if you are on the $10 edition AND you have 4 or less users, you get 1TB.
Interesting, I must have gotten grandfathered or there must be a glitch for me. I have unlimited everything but I only have one user on my account -- me. I did get the account a long time ago, though.
Domsdey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure it's unlimited? Check here: https://www.google.com/settings/storage
To my knowledge there never was a version that would allow you to have unlimited storage with just one user, I could be wrong though.
I work for a phone company. Anytime we put up a demo phone that qualifies for the free storage I login with my Gmail, claim my free storage then wipe the phone. I'm at like 250 gigs of drive space. Although some of that is expiring sometime soon. I think it's good for like two years.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:17:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus: you can get 1TB free if you review several stores, add photos on Google Maps, etc.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:33:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait how does this work because I would love me some Google drive space that is free
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:41:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First off, you go on Google's Local Guides page and sign up.
Then all you have to do is open the Google Maps app and go in the Contribute tab, then you can give specifications on certain shops/restaurants, give reviews (you must write a review to get points, a rating alone doesn't work), send photos (tip: on Android, once you take a photo of a store with your normal camera app, you can press the Share button and select Google Maps to contribute a photo), etc.
You gain one point per contribution, which take time to earn I tell you, but once you have 200 points, you reach Level 4 and obtain the Google Drive space!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So like in a year or two that is a nice 100GB of space. Thanks for the information.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like the mobile one. I have to dig for pics. It uploads them before i get yo name them. I cant put them in folders like ms. I cam created albums by searching and adding one at a time. I have thousands of pictures. MS makes it easy. Google gives me headaches
Salisen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:43 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's debatable how long they'll offer unlimited storage for once they try to compress pictures of your mum though!
Flickr understand this already - they forgo compression completely and allow for 1 TB of storage for free.
dmsayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:19 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or if you become a Google Guide with the Google Maps app, you get more free storage perks if you become a higher level Guide (adding reviews, answer questions about establishmets--like, "Is there handicapped parking here?" Etc.
It's not compression. They resize your picture smaller. Jpegs are already compressed, which is why lossless compression like zipping them or raring them doesn't reduce the size at all.
ohpuic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:13:28 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also unlimited for uncompressed photos if you have a nexus device.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:00 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol Google isn't on your side
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:53:53 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only downside imo is, that Google Drives also takes that space for your emails :/
yomerol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:06:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And sells the info for reports, ads, etc., not that I care that much, but is annoying that Google sails with that GGG flag, but behind the scenes is more evil than IBM and Steve Jobs together.
Gabe_b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:37 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If being an anonymomized data point of the price I have to pay for free ubiquitous storage in perpetuity then I guess that's a cross I'm willing to bare
FloppY_ ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:23:52 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The reason those unlimited options are disappearing is because of guys like that one Redditor who uploaded several terabytes to the Dropbox servers just because he could.
He made a thread about how he ruined Dropbox Unlimited for everyone a few months back, but I can't seem to find it now. I think it was an AMA.
Well, if he exposed that "unlimited" really didn't mean unlimited, then nothing really got ruined for anyone now did it?
FloppY_ ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:45:45 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't, it really was unlimited until they contacted him in order to make him stop and changed their subscriptions.
Bratmon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:20 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he clearly hit some kind of limit.
FloppY_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:46 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe in the same way as getting thrown out of a 24/7 all-you-can-eat buffet, because you just don't leave is hitting the limit.
But it is not like they put up a number for when you aren't able to upload more stuff.
Bratmon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just because the limit was hidden doesn't mean it didn't exist.
2scared ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:02 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Then it's not fucking unlimited. Unlimited means you can either store a byte or beyond petabytes. In other words, there is no limit to the size of things you can upload. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about this.
I'm so fucking pissed that reddit is siding with microsoft on this one. Their fucking marketing department wrote checks that technical department couldn't cache cash and it's somehow paid user's fault? What the fuck man.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:13:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
How about explicitly stating this in the plan description? I don't want to use a service that has unwritten rules about it's usage. Example: pay $X get 100gb cloud storage - absolutely fine, pay $Y get unlimited* cloud storage! *rules and conditions apply, service may be terminated if we think you are using it unfairly - some bullshit right there.
But when you have people uploading 10+ terrabytes each, that's going against the intent of the unlimited plan...
Wait, why? You just said the intent was to backup your PC. Some PCs have 10+ terabytes of storage. Most cheap PCs come with 1-2T on a spinning disk.
In other words:
The point of an unlimited plan is so you can use your drive and not have to worry about running out of space.
Only you can't do that, because if you happen to have a large enough amount of space to back up -- or if Microsoft didn't update this to keep up with the times as people get more and more storage -- then you find there really was a limit. Worse, everyone blames you for finding the limit, instead of Microsoft for dishonestly calling it "unlimited".
In fact, from what you're describing, the limit is apparently "Once you have tens of terabytes." So the much saner thing for them to do would've been to set a limit of, say, 5T. Most people will never approach it, so it's still functionally unlimited, but at least it's explicit now.
Or, they could go the other route: Acknowledge that there will be the occasional outlier, and support them anyway. Backblaze claims unlimited storage, and as far as I know, people really are backing up multiple terabytes to them without complaint. It turns out there aren't all that many people who have that much storage on a single machine, and the amount of positive PR you'd get from covering those people anyway probably outweighs the cost. And if you're afraid of someone just using this as a cheap alternative to AWS for an actual business, you can deal with that by saying this backup is only for personal use, and offering a separate tier of support for businesses.
So the problem isn't that you can't have unlimited, even their basic notion of unlimited that you're hinting at here. The problem is they didn't deliver that, they panicked and immediately limited people when it got bad. That's a shitty bait-and-switch and is at best naive on their part, and they get no sympathy from me for that.
Think of it like this, we all pay for roads (Socialism, OMG!) would you be OK with a 4 lane highway going to a dead end town of 50 people?
Nobody ever promised unlimited roads. That's the issue.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:04:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sounds like they were following the intent perfectly -- using the service and not worrying about space.
It was unlimited and then Microsoft amended their terms.
That would've actually been more honest than what they did, which was to slowly start enforcing the limit before it was ever announced anywhere.
Gmail did unlimited right, back in the day -- they just set the limit to more storage than people had ever gotten with free email, and then kept increasing it over time so most people never had to delete a single email. That would've been the smart thing to do here, if Microsoft didn't want to provide something unlimited.
Their fucking marketing department wrote checks that technical department couldn't cache in...
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...technically...sort of correct? Their technical department evidently couldn't store this guy's data, even temporarily, so I guess they couldn't cache it. Still...
and it wasn't like someone went and used a whole TB and Microsoft was like "hey wait", iirc someone was using close to, or over 100TB and had gotten the unlimited plan on sale to begin with.
Wonder how long will it be until Amazon stops their offer
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FloppY_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the vast majority of users will never need more than the 1TB that most services offer right now and I'm sure the offers will increase along with file-size in the future.
We have phones that record 4K video. With that in mind an hour of 4K video on an iPhone could be like 20GB (is actually a little more). So that 1 TB is just 50 hours of 4K video on an iPhone.
But sure, I know most people don't shoot 4K yet (but will since it will be more and more common). With 1080p that's the default for most people, that's 8GB an hour. So 125 hours of 1080p video.
If you take a couple videos on Birthdays, Christmas and other Holidays, or when you are on vacation, you can reach that 1TB without much effort.
I agree that today maybe it's enough but most because people aren't yet used to backing stuff up on the cloud and so on. When it gets more common and most videos end up there, it won't be enough.
As you said, the tiers will probably increase but still that 1TB isn't THAT much space anymore.
FloppY_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dunno, I think he was successful in some of his court stuff. A Chinese investor bought up (took over) Mega though, but the service has been great and no compromise on the security features, so, whatevs!
It is definitely an interface that hides my favorite features. I feel like there is a lot I could do if I understood it better but I have been poking away at it.
My current source for new things I would like is the New to Prime - Songs Recently Added to Prime list. You have to scroll down a ways to get to it on the New to Prime page. Within the first twenty different musicians I usually find a song I love, and often it is a band I had not heard of.
I also like the way you can see lyrics for a lot of songs by clicking on the bar in the middle of the song's page. You can read through them by holding and dragging or rewind to a specific section by clicking on it.
NeoCoN7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It might be different in other countries but Amazon video is shit in the UK.
On a lot of older shows you'll get the first season or two free then the rest you have to rent/buy despite having a prime account.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:36 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. $60/year is probably worth it for me to back up 5TB worth of files. Problem is it will take me forever to upload and/or download that. Guessing they won't allow me to use their snowball appliance for a consumer account?
I have never had a refund refused on Amazon, to be honest. Always a very hassle free process. To get other things done, you might need to stay on hold for a long time, but you'll probably get what you want.
I've been using Amazon for over a decade now and had prime almost since it came out. Their customer service has gone downhill in the last year.
I took me 3 online chats and 3 phone calls to get a refund for an item I never received.
They kept trying to ask me if I checked for the item or asked my neighbors if they received it when their own tracking number showed it was never shipped. When I explained they never shipped it and the tracking number shows this they just kept asking if I had received it in broken English.
I had to ask for a supervisor and the supervisor wouldn't send a replacement, only a refund. It was bizarre.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:14:37 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend had a prime trial and forgot to cancel. She contacted Amazon and they immediately cancelled it and refunded her money. So I don't get the hate.
I'm considering Amazon. You can get united storage for 60 bucks a year, or unlimited photo storage (uncompressed unlike Google photos) for like 10 bucks a year.
Seems cheap. I'd rather pay a nominal fee than accept all these compromises.
SaltTM ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:10:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They actually sent an email
I never got one, only found out via news outlets and twitter. I don't recall anyone I know got an email regarding it either. That'd be too easy lol, since they didn't want you to opt-out of the shrinkage.
I didn't get one either, for what it's worth. Never had anything in the junk folder on that account, so there's no way I could have missed it. Feeling pretty lied to at the moment.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the spam mail folder only stores messages for a limited amount of time so that may be why.
SaltTM ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:12:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no reason to delete that email without reading it especially when I have shit stored on their servers lol - I didn't get it and it definitely didn't get caught in my spam filter.
Khiva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah just chiming in to say I got no emails about this either.
I opened up my email and nothing from them. So myself and others didn't get an email.
Thankfully I don't use the email or OneDrive for anything (except logging into the Windows Store) so it's no real loss, but it's pretty crappy on them for not sending out emails to everyone about it.
I migrated all of my pictures to Amazon Cloud since that's the bulk of my storage. I use ODrive as my desktop sync and Amazon Photo as my auto mobile upload. It's working great. I wrote about it here:
I read something from the CEO lately, which mentioned 15% - 17% of all US households have a prime account. Prime Day (starts July 12) last year was bigger then Black Friday in term of sales figures for them last year - a sale only for Prime members.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:56:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dont forget that sweet deal on a whole barrel of lube!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:08:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cheap gummy bears solved my stomach issues
erishun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Prime Day is just Amazon's "clear out the warehouses" firesale.
It's a lot of stuff from third party "Fulfilled By Amazon" that wouldn't sell and were forefeit/abandoned by the sellers. It's also Amazon's stuff that wouldn't sell too!
It's like Woot. It's a bunch of garbage products that nobody wants in relatively small quantities.
Only because their black friday sales were pretty shit too.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:23:10 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:22 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After you get it for 30 days you have to wait a whole year before doing the trial again. You don't think people haven't used there trial yet?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:51:46 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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riffdex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:57:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't dispute that it's possible. I dispute the premise that many people are actually bothering to do that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even need a new card. I've used the same card 10+ times and I use a 10-minute mail.
riffdex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if somebody wants to take the time to do that more power to them (although I would imagine Amazon won't let this continue forever).
I wouldn't personally try it but I am more concerned about potential action taken against my Amazon Seller account, if they discover what I am doing. (As all packages ordered on those accounts would be sent to the same mailing address as my Amazon Seller account)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm considering getting a prime membership just because of prime video and music. I don't order from Amazon too often and it doesn't take long to make a new account.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok then don't pay for amazon get 12 emails and 12 cards. There you go free forever. Lets see how that works out
riffdex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No doubt they would cut you off if you kept abusing the system. They can see what address all the accounts are shipping to...
Could you post the message for us to look for the email? I can't find any such message. My only message about this literally gives me a free one year 365 account with 1TB of 'free' storage.
The 'free plan bonus' is going away, and so is the 'camera bonus'. I think the scumbag MS holds true. I have PRIME + a Fire Phone that came with a LOT of bonuses so I'll take a look at their storage. It would be nice to know what the hell happened with those MS emails though...
Thank you for the heads up! I did not get that email though. I would not be too surprised if it turns out like you say. It's a shame though. It definitely hinders the consumers confidence in the reliability of their offers.
I pay a monthly rate of $10-per. With it, I get the entire office suite as well as a terabyte of OneDrive space. The best part is that I can share that subscription with five other people (they each get their own TB as well as their own Office suite). Frankly, for what I'm getting, I'm happy to pay the $10/month.
Yes. And they offered additional space for other reasons I can't remember, I have 30 GB total.
ctoan8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:36 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 130 GB, of which 100 GB is from purchasing a Samsung Galaxy, so previously I had 30 GB and I can't remember the reasons either. They didn't cut the storage to 5 GB, I'm not aware of this cut until now. What I find ironic is that I bought a Lumia phone, and they upgraded my storage to 1TB, but then they cut the storage even to Lumia purchases, and now by buying a Galaxy phone, I got more storage than my previous purchase of the Lumia.
Way back in the days of SkyDrive you actually got 25 Gigs by signing up. Eventually they reduced that to 7 for new accounts and ones that didn't opt out. Some time later they increased the base to 15 with a 15 gig bonus for the camera roll.
While I am happy with my now 40 Gigs of free storage (25+15) I'd be a lot happier with the service if I didn't have to constantly check that Microsoft doesn't cut my storage.
From what I understand OneDrive is currently at its worst offering of all time, which is odd because I would have expected their offer to either grow or stay the same to continue to beat out the competition like Google or Dropbox.
Honestly it seems like a push for them to get more people on Office 365 since that includes 1TB of space. Like others have already posted I opted in for the one year free Office 365 that was emailed out and will likely cancel before it renews and see what the market is like then.
True but to be fair, I could see myself sending emails from Microsoft to my spam folder. If a company only emailed me when it was something important fine, but that's not the world we live in.
It's also kind of ridiculous to expect everyone to click the button in their email. Like what good does that even do? Oh, it does give Microsoft an excuse like you posted to try to pull this off.
You don't have to read through each email. They have subject lines that are clear as to what info it contains. This particular email's(the many they sent) was "Important Changes to your One Drive account"
If your One Drive storage was of importance to you, that should have been enough information to push you to give it at least a cursory glance.
Not so fun fact: I've read my email, and microsoft didn't offer to keep previous level of space. Guess this is geography based decision they made. Not from US or EU.
I went through the process to keep my 30 GB, but when I login I have a message at the top that I'm being downgraded to 5GB. I chatted with customer service and they said I would lose the space that I opted to keep. I'm not sure if the rep put any effort into her reply, but like I said, my account tells me I will be dowbgraded.
SnOrfys ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:18:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: If MS was perfectly capable of letting anyone who wanted, keep their space, they could have easily left things as they were and honored the implied intent of the original offer. Instead, more negative billing practices and holding people's data hostage.
I don't use OneDrive, so I don't really care, but it's silly to think that everyone should have to constantly monitor their e-mail, just in case some company decides to renege on their offers and start billing you.
I can't remember where I got it all.. I think Windows Live OneCare offered some, there was a freebie offer, and the Windows Phone freebie was 100 GB iirc. I'm in my bathtub pouring free ram sticks on myself right now.
you are one of those "Winxp 4 lyfe" guys aren't you?
ohbarf ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:44 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. XP was a good OS but I have had good success with 7. Win 10 simply didn't offer enough to get me to switch and as time has gone by I think not switching has proven to be good for what I want out of my PC.
Sure, I could switch to Linux, but it isn't as simple as a lot of raging people try to make it sound. Linux also has shortcomings as far as what I want out of a PC.
I may give Linux a try though. You know, for science and all. I don't see it being an improvement over what I have now though.
_Aj_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:57:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Call me a whiskey with an orange wedge, but im still not trusting enough to put that many gb on a free server somewhere.
If people were using "too much space" then, by definition it was never unlimited.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 23:54:26 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's a planned excuse for M$. Hype it with unlimited knowing full and well that you WON'T provide that . Let a couple people pull this stunt and use it to SEVERELY neuter the capacity. Wait even longer, then neuter it, again, but make it OK, b/c you have an announcement that says "if you want to keep it" (as if someone's going to actively refuse extra space).
No one is going to read emails from M$ (spam folder automatically for the wise) and I imagine many never logged into their account to see the warning.
This is typical shit head business practices. Hype it, then cut service down, then kill the service and hope some people pay.
Fuck you if you're an apologist.
I never used this BS service in my life. Fuck dropbox, too, they're WORSE (liars and thieves).
The big problem with flash drives is that if you lose it, your data is gone.
Jamdawg ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:53:05 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True but its a quick fix to get them off of one drive without paying.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:59:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alternatively you can purchase a hard drive that has more than 16gb free storage and copy your documents to a folder there. From there you can upload to Google drive or Dropbox
No company will just shut down their servers without warning customers. Especially not large companies like Google, Microsoft or Dropbox. This simply won't happen. If they end their service just download all your data and switch to another provider.
They announced this change months in advanced and asked you to log on and "claim" your space to keep it so they could do whatever they're doing with their storage solution. If you didn't do that, it is your fault.
damstr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:57:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I logged in today for something and I noticed they now offer office 365 for free for a year with 1TB of storage. Not a fix but some people may find it helpful.
I still have my 30. For a good like six-eight months they let you opt in to keep your high storage because people were storing illegal movies and such on it. They're not scumbags simply because you either signed up too late, or missed the several emails that helped you.
[deleted] ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 19:26:30 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Infinite. They aren't deleting data, just dropping the cap. If youre over the cap you cant upload more until you remove content to drop below it again.
If after 9 months you are still over quota, your account will be locked. That means that you will not be able to access the content in your OneDrive until you take action.
If after 6 more months you fail to take action, your content may be deleted.
Ive been using onedrive when it first came out and was called skydrive and it was unlimited gigs, but of course some people were taking advantage of that and they started putting caps. They would randomly give away free space since then and i have free 250 gigs for life right now, but i dont even use 1% of that.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also used since Skydrive. Thats why this irks me.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 23:44:19 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because using an unlimited service as if it's unlimited is taking advantage? Yeah no.
it is when you are obviously abusing the service and uploading hundreds of TB of junk.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In some countries it's illegal to advertise somethings as unlimited when it's not. Take data caps on isps in my part of the world... Calling shit unlimited and then saying "subject to fair use" is an obvious contradiction and is considered false advertising. Side with your corporations definition of "unlimited" it's all good. I switched he'd to something faster and was happy to pay for it so idgaf either way
You can never have something be truly unlimited, a crazy thing is on earth called finite resources. NOTHING can ever be unlimited because we don't have infinite resources to do it...
You were sent multiple messages from MS allowing you to keep your 15gb allowance for free. You neglected them and now you have 5gb.
And now you have the nerve to make this disingenuous meme? This is why MS haters usually fucking suck. They are either misinformed or ignorant.
Khiva ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:47:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never got a single email about this - just one in April saying "lol we're taking away OneDrive" and then another one just recently reminding me that lol they're taking away OneDrive.
The thing that annoys me is that the Pictures folder (which my camera automatically copies into) is linked to OneDrive. I put something in Pictures, it ends up in OneDrive. How can I use the Pictures folder without all this OneDrive drama giving me headaches?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will state that my computer is only a few months old and I did not receive and email from Microsoft about the changes to one drive with any option to remain at 15 gb. I received an email a few weeks after I bought the computer that it was shrinking. I am not super upset, but slightly annoyed as the default save on my computer is to onedrive.
Then use libre. It's not as good, but for most purposes, it's good enough against Microsoft office.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 12TB NAS, but the convenience of the auto-upload-everything from my photos really helped with some of the videos I take of my kids. I do the backup, but having them everywhere with Onedrive was great. (My NAS is firewalled for obvious reasons)
I just keep my stuff locally and have a backup. Why does everyone these days feel the need to store stuff online.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I can have the small videos of my kids on hand but not locally stored on my device. They take up tons of space for ~30-60sec vids. Onedrive allowed me to pull them up whenever.
One drive deleted a very important file of mine. It was a spreadsheet I worked on a few months. Not only did they delete off their (cloud) system they 'synced' the change to all of my local systems which also deleted it. When I went back to reference it after a few months of not looking at it I found that it was gone. The support emails about stretched 3 weeks and culminating with an engineer from the team basically saying, "We're sorry but you're not getting your file back. It's gone."
On one hand they ruined hundreds of hours of work. On the other hand they gave 1 TB of storage free.
Edit: I do still use Onedrive but I now do weekly manual backups Amazon's Cloudrive which as far as I can tell is the best deal in terms of storage. It's completely unlimited for something like $60 / year.
My MS office subscription which gives me over 1 TB of memory. Just expired. I just logged into one drive and it says im 200gb over limit. Are they going to delete my ish if I don't renew?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, you'll just have to download it and move elsewhere
604zx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I recall correctly, didn't they run like a half-year-long "Preserve your free 15gb by clicking OK" campaign? I am quite certain, because I still have my 15gb, and I kept it by opening the link and clicking one button.
I use owncloud on custom hosting that backs up to an internal server.
None of this, "Oh but we changed our minds and free isn't free anymore" bullshit.
Kapps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:58 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed, except with Seafile to an off-site server. I don't care if something happens to the server, the very nature of these syncing services is that the content is in multiple locations. If one goes down, you can just upload it to a new server unless somehow all your computers and the server go down at the same time.
I use Seafile over owncloud though because owncloud was slow and buggy for me. It feels like it actually polls for changes rather than just automatically uploading any changes or something.
villan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:49 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this with online.net and it costs about 6 euro a month for 500gb. Started out with Owncloud, but now just use BT Sync.
Why. You mean apart from their infuriating tight assed approach to their products? How about getting a $800, 16GB phone, but not able to access the files on PC without their proprietary, crappy softwares. Backup files ? sure, use the iCloud service but wait, its only 5GB free. Pay $0.99/m to get more. KMA I say. I am an Android guy through and through but made the mistake of buying my wife an iphone because she wanted one. Now she's counting days for when her 18 months contract will be over so she could get rid of it.
Apple products, biggest fucking ripoff in the world.
mnl1121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a dumb meme. 1. You could have kept all 15gb if you read your email like others are saying and 2. They don't delete your photos, you just can't upload any more until your under your limit.
BigJ76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:09 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tried Onedrive, didn't really care for it. Not sure why, just didn't strike me. Dropbox is good, been using that for a while. Might even switch to Google Drive just for reasons
I'm a pretty big Dropbox fan. There's not really any reason for me to switch to one drive because I have almost as much free Dropbox space than I would get by paying Microsoft for OneDrive.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:12 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 28, and I despise gmail, always have. I hate the whole idea of "tagging" email vs. sorting it into separate folders using customized rules (which are a lot more powerful IMO). With Outlook my inbox (which is the very first thing you see when you open your email) is basically only personal emails from friends/family, everything else gets automatically sorted out. Outlook just feels so much more powerful, and makes so much more sense to me.
Oh and fuck conversational sorting, email is probably the worst way to have a conversation, that's what texting or skype is for. One thing I really love about Outlook is that I can see details about what's in any particular email at a glance using category colors, like this. What you're looking at is emails from a paid market analysis service, with different authors sending different kinds of analysis. So from the example you can see that any email from EWT.net written by Avi has a purple icon on it, and any email with a 24 hour chart has a black icon on it.
At the end of the day it's all about preferences though, and people use email for different purposes which could change those preferences.
edit: Ok so filters = rules, labels = folders, and conversation view isn't the work of Satan. I get it now, but there's still a lot of things I prefer about Outlook.
You can sort email into different folders and tabs using filter rules in GMail too... I do it for my work email so only client emails are in the main inbox, and anything else goes to other, like account info or promotions and shit like that which is related to software I used for work.
And the conversation type system is good.. what's not to like about it? You're able to instantly see what was said before without switching between tabs and looking for the previous emails. It lets an email flow, it's been a big aid for freelance work.
You can sort email into different folders and tabs using filter rules in GMail too
Ok I feel stupid I guess you can do the same thing, I didn't realize filters = rules & labels = folders. I also just figured out that under labs you can get a preview plane just like Outlook has, which is awesome. I don't know how people survive without a preview pane.
There are still a few other things that bother me about gmail:
The color category labels in Outlook is still an absolute necessity for me, and I don't see any equivalent in gmail.
Outlook has a desktop client, which is nice for a number of reasons. One of them being because I can use the alt-tab keyboard shortcut to quickly swap back and forth between web browsing and email. The ctrl hotkeys for tabs in chrome aren't really super comfortable to use when you have more than 5-6 tabs open, which I do 90% of the time.
The gmail categories function is definitely a completely different idea from the outlook function, and it also seems superfluous/redundant and you can't get rid of it (only hide it). Which brings me to my next point.
A whole lot of default system labels which can't be removed, only hidden, which makes the hidden area ugly and messy.
The first one is pretty important, the other three are just kind of just me being nitpicky, but still.
And the conversation type system is good.. what's not to like about it? You're able to instantly see what was said before without switching between tabs and looking for the previous emails. It lets an email flow, it's been a big aid for freelance work.
See now that's where I can imagine conversation view would be useful, where you're sharing a lot of detailed information about an ongoing project or job. I guess my problem was that I didn't really have a need for it so I didn't have a chance to see how it might be useful.
The color category function in outlook is completely different (see my example in my original post).
Like I said when I sort things I want them out of my inbox, so I would use the skip inbox function on every filter. That's just color coding the equivalent of a folder, which is redundant if you're using the skip inbox function on your filters anyway.
You can't use Outlook desktop app with your Gmail account? I though it allows email addresses from other servers?
You can but gmail labels don't play nice with outlook, it's messy because labels and folders are not exact equivalents.
Also why would I use gmail.com instead of outlook.com, if I'm using the outlook desktop client anyway.
3/4. Why would how the hidden area look matter? It should have no affect on your actual usage of the app.
It seems to me the whole point of a hidden area is to hide labels you don't look at very often, but still use (otherwise why not just delete them?). So it's cluttered with all sorts of labels that you actually never use. A really nitpicky point admittedly, but even little annoyances can add up.
It seems to me the whole point of a hidden area is to hide labels you don't look at very often
Nah, for that make a Label called something like "Meh" or whatever you want, and then you make your not often looked at labels as sub-labels of that. Hiding is so you don't even see them, basically like deleting, but non-destructive.
Outlook just feels so much more powerful, and makes so much more sense to me.
Technically, it sort of is. The back end of outlook.com email is an Exchange server, the tech for which is owned by Microsoft. Every other webmail is IMAP.
The average user wouldn't notice the difference, but there's a reason why companies with custom domains typically use Exchange for their internal email.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:32 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Labels in Gmail are folders (actually show up as folders in Outlook 365) and with rules you can just do things like "IF attachments > 10MB THEN Skip Inbox and Label Big Files"
This is a super simple rule and is exactly the same as the age old Outlook rule "IF from Sender/Words in message THEN Move to Folder"
So basically the thing you hate about Gmail is exactly the same as the function you like in Outlook.
fx32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Outlook was a mailclient, and has transformed/merged into a webservice -- both indeed quite powerful, out of necessity to get a grip on the chaos of inbound crap when you need to manage mail professionally.
Gmail has always been webmail, with a slightly different intention, aimed at providing a simple personal solution. It has a decent spamfilter, labels are less organized but it works pretty well paired with the good search algorithm Google has. I personally actually prefer Inbox (from Google) over the default Gmail interface, as it kinda forces me to keep on top of things, quickly swiping/snoozing/answering mails on my phone.
In the end though, I kind of despise email as a concept. It takes up too much attention, it's an endless unwanted queue, and the protocol is old and outdated. I get that mail is a necessary evil in many cases, but I'm happy that many companies are shifting towards "IRC 2.0" chat solutions like Slack/Hipchat/Rocketchat.
A lot of companies run exchange servers and they really work best with outlook, esp. if you also include meeting organization and calendars.
Nothing most personal users use but at least at my employer outlook is the standard (together with lync) and used each and every day and you don't get a choice to use something else.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:06:35 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have over 1 TB of space, probably grandfathered in or some bullshit. I'm only up to 56 GB used currently and I use it fairly actively too. My pictures automatically upload into the drive when I connect to my home WiFi.
Hell if I know what I'd store in it to fill it up to capacity though...
Dropbox, 40gb. Free. (At least I got that when I bought my last phone a couple years ago, might have been part of a campaign... but surely they still have similar campaigns... and I already had Dropbox btw, so this was not a "new registers only" type of thing).
Actually going to look now, I currently have 52.25GB total space. And thats on the free, basic account. Which is pretty good if you ask me.
Huh. Well this wasnt that type of "promotional" deal I guess. It was preinstalled when I bought my Galaxy S5 which is a couple years ago now if not more. And it was just something like "log in and start using Dropbox and we'll give you 40gb extra space for free" (though thinking about it maybe it was 50, cause I dont see how else I would have gotten 52.25 total). And there was no time limit or anything like that, cause that would surely have lapsed by now. And since I was already using Dropbox anyway and had intended to install and use it on the phone regardless, for me that was just free extra storage without needing to do anything for it, which was sweet because before that I think I had just 2GB.
Yeah I think it was some sort of campaign when I bought my Galaxy S5, which was a couple of years ago now. It had the Dropbox app preinstalled and if I logged in I got 40gb extra space for free. Or maybe it was even a bit more than that seeing as how I now have 52.25 total and Im not sure how I would have gotten those extra 12.25 then.
I had a separate issue that appears to happen to a certain % of folks: my onedrive "sync" decided to delete ALL my local files, which it then started to update with the cloud.
I managed to save most things, and I still use OneDrive cloud since I pay for it. But absolutely went back to manual sync.
I still have 10.1 TB in my Onedrive (the 10 I got for my Office-subscription and .1 from my Samsung tablet).
I was under the impression that the limit would be lowered to 1 TB when they changed the limits but, as I said, mine is still 10.1 TB, which is enough for me at least...
I get one terabyte and I get to install the full MS office suite on 5 computers for 10 bucks a month. I also always get the latest version, so when office 2019 or whatever comes out I get all 5 of those updated at no extra cost.
Damn Microsoft and their unreasonableness. Stupid cloud providers and their expectation that people pay for service.
Shraker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking thank you, buy external and be much happier with your life
Just buy a 128GB thumb drive (~$20). Don't trust your backups to the internet, no matter how reputable the company may be / seem, nor how non-incriminating the data is / seems.
WHy would you back up your data to someone else's computer? I mean I use google drive for ease of access, but I have my own drive for backup.
Degru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Off-site backups are good to have if your house burns down.
Not that Onedrive or Google Drive are good choices for this. There are many cloud backup providers that have way better options. Unlimited storage, strong encryption, and they also let you send them a hard drive with the initial data if your upload speed is slow.
Why does this have so many upvotes. OP was a moron and its his own fault that he lost out on it, not Microsoft's. I mean I know we hate microsoft and all, but upvoting a moron doesn't balance it out.
Avlix ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:50:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cough external drive cough
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:45 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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manwelI ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:53:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care to expand for us laymen please?
peedit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:52:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! All I found doing a quick (not thorough) search was some complaints to Micro Soft help desk where no one answered any questions of the support personnel responding, so it was unclear if there was actually an issue with OneDrive. I usually just use OneDrive to sync between my devices but this definitely makes sure I won't be using it to back up anything.
Thanks!
Kzzinn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:40:05 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait when is Microsoft lowering its limit to 5GB??
ohbarf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:48:33 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Have fun Xbox players! That play anywhere will probably need that space too.However, Microsoft just lowered expectations for play anywhere too, so meh.
Kzzinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:16 on July 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When is the OneDrive limit changing though?
ohbarf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:12 on July 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure. I just read their plan for subscription services. Well, as little as they're willing to say so far.
the idea behind this is so when you are no longer a student you hopefully have a lot of data hostage and will just go for a paid skydrive option. MS have been working hard with unis to ensure students get lifetime suitable accounts rather than just "student" accounts for a reason...
It's probably already said in the comments, but they sent out an email allowing you to click through and opt in to keep your storage. If you didn't do that, you would lose it. so.. check your emails better next time :)
Still a scumbag thing to do. Surely Microsoft knew there are people who wouldn't read that. It wouldn't be a scumbag thing if they didn't try to charge them to keep it and instead just deleted the extra 10 gigs.
They are trying to charge them for it. That is how money entered the discussion to begin with. OP didn't offer to pay money for it, Microsoft told them they had to pay for it or it would be deleted.
OK, I thought you meant trying as in actively trying to charge the OP for services without their consent. I understand what you are saying now but still, there were emails around a year ago and articles all around the internet I remember seeing about it. OP literally had to be away from the internet and their emails for a year to not know about it.
My theory is OP just wanted to to create a meme for sweet sweet Karma.
Well I can't speak to OP's motives for posting, but I agree that Microsoft is still a scumbag for offering a set amount of storage, then lowering it and trying to charge for 2/3 of what they previously offered free.
Microsoft. They offered a free service and people took them up on it. It's Microsoft's responsibility to put limits on it, not the people they offered the service to. They sent out an email, lowered the amount of storage and then tried to charge for a portion of it. If they had simply deleted the excess after the notification, rather than attempting to charge for it, then I wouldn't think it was scummy. The problem is not that they scaled back, but that they scaled back and tried to charge for something they originally offered free.
The money grab is why Microsoft is still the scumbag.
That's fine if you see it that way, but it's not how it is. The few that took advantage of the situation are the scumbags and therefore caused the rest of us to suffer the consequences. There were emails sent to the email address of the OneDrive account, on screen notfications if you had an msn email account, notifications online within the OneDrive account, on the OneDrive app, and numourous online articles addressing what you needed to do and the link you needed to visit if you wanted to keep your "existing upgraded online storage for free". There's only so much a company can do without the user eventually accepting responsibility for their own actions. I know, it's an odd thing to accept in today's world. Plus, I realize how satisfying it is to find any reason to blame Microsoft for something.
If a group of people found a way to spam Reddit with 100,000 messages a second, causing them server trouble and possibly monetary hardship due to increased server traffic and upgrades and whatever else, which causes Reddit to limit our near infinite ability to post as much as we want, whenever we want, to something like 10 times a day with a 5 minute interval in between posts, then implements a paid program to post without restrictions, I wouldn't label Reddit as a scumbag. I'd blame the ones who took advantage of the situation as the scumbags. Being the cause of it all. It's not the same type of scenario, but the concept is similar.
Also, they didn't attempt to charge for something they took away. They offered a solution to keep your existing expanded storage if A) you didn't opt in to keep the upgraded expanded storage and B) you actually need extra storage beyond what the new cap would be. I'm pretty sure, anyone that used the free expanded storage, used it enough to see at least one of the many notifications that were given out within the year before they changed the policy.
I don't know why you're making this into an argument. It's an opinion. I'll address your comment, though.
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That's fine if you see it that way, but it's not how it is.
Yes, it is. Microsoft offered something for free. Then they scaled it back. Then they charged money for something that was previously free (10 of the 15 GB). This part is not opinion. That's how it is. If you disagree with my opinion that this makes Microsoft the scumbag in this situation, that's your opinion.
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There were emails sent to the email address of the OneDrive account, on screen notfications if you had an msn email account, notifications online within the OneDrive account, on the OneDrive app, and numourous online articles addressing what you needed to do and the link you needed to visit if you wanted to keep your "existing upgraded online storage for free".
I don't disagree with any of this. EDIT: Except that you didn't get to keep it for free, they gave you a year to react to it.
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There's only so much a company can do without the user eventually accepting responsibility for their own actions. I know, it's an odd thing to accept in today's world. Plus, I realize how satisfying it is to find any reason to blame Microsoft for something.
This is completely immaterial to what I'm saying. Microsoft could have deleted anything above the 5 GB and have been done with it. I'll bold this so it stands out to you, because it is the entire point of my comments and it's my opinion. They didn't have to try and charge people for something that was previously free. That is a scumbag move.
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Also, they didn't attempt to charge for something they took away. They offered a solution to keep your existing expanded storage if A) you didn't opt in to keep the upgraded expanded storage and B) you actually need extra storage beyond what the new cap would be.
They offered a solution which they charged for. When it was free to use previously. Your example "A" doesn't bother me, but "B" does. Because it was free. You consider people using Microsoft's free service freely as taking advantage of it. People took them up on what was offered. Suppose you say, "hey man, use this grocery cart for free" If I say, "sure, thanks" and then proceed to fill the cart, I haven't taken advantage of you or the cart. If you try to charge me to use 2/3 of the cart after I've already started using it, that's a scumbag move.
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For the examples you posted of people using 75 TB of space, if something is "unlimited" it cannot be taken advantage of in the sense that you claim it was. You can't use too much because it's unlimited. TBH, the entire unlimited part is really beside the point. That's not even what OP posted about. I'm just discussing it with you because I think that was also a scumbag move. The difference between what you're talking about and what OP is talking about is this:
The unlimited storage that was offered with OneDrive was used as a selling point to get people to subscribe to Office 365. A fact which makes it even more of a scumbag move, IMO. "Unlimited" was reduced to 1 TB of storage, which should really suffice for the needs of most people, but it's not what they were offered to begin with. As such, this is unethical at best. This is known as bait and switch for anyone that subscribed when it was supposed to be free.
OP was talking about the free 15 GB of storage that was reduced to 5 GB of storage. This was not a result of people storing 75 TB because the max they could use already was 15 GB. This was Microsoft scaling back on a service they offered for free. What I didn't realize is that there already were paid storage plans in place prior to scaling back. This makes it a little less scummy to me, now that I know that, but it's still a scumbag move, in my opinion. The concept really isn't that far off from a drug dealer getting you hooked for free.
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Here is a link that outlines the changes that Microsoft made if you want to use it for reference.
I'm not really trying to argue, just trying to lay out the facts. I respect your opinion or anyone elses. Sometimes opinions are based upon other peoples reactions, and sometimes they are based upon facts. From my perspective, I've been involved with this specific OneDrive scenario since before they offered the free storage. I currently have 8.88 GB used out out 130 GB of free storage. I remember signing up for the initial free storage, having to sign up with Bing (for an additional 100GB, then awhile later, finding out they were taking it all away. Then reading about how users were backing up tons of stuff and taking advantage so that was the reason it was going away. They then offered an opportunity to keep all that free storage just by opting in. And if a customer didn't do that, a way to still keep the additional storage so they wouldn't just lose all their data they stored if needed.
I understand anyone looking from the outside for the first time, can see this as a scumbag move. Although having a bit more insight into the situation I can realize what was done and why. So, with no disrespect, it feels your opinion is based upon uninformed misconceptions. Which was fueled by the OP's post.
Checking the current top comment, and it reiterates the ability to conserve your free storage. So again, it seems OP's meme was created either in sarcasm, or misinformation. Which is very common. Without an inside perspective or more information, we can only make a speculated opinion, which isn't based on fact. Not trying to change your opinion, but for me, I'd much rather base my opinion on true facts than uninformed speculation.
Microsoft offered something for free. Then they scaled it back. Then they charged money for something that was previously free. This part is not opinion. That's how it is.
You see.. if the situation was black and white, this would be correct. It is also misinformed. It is basically saying Microsoft bait and switched everyone for no reason, other than to get you to sub to their service by offering free storage, then arbitrarily taking it away like candy from a baby. But it isn't true. You linked me the blogpost and I linked you an article explaining what happened which caused them to scale back their service.
Microsoft could have deleted anything above the 5 GB and have been done with it.
This is what I would call a scumbag move. Hey buddy you know all those family photos you have? Well ya. it's 10 GB, sorry buddy, we're going to randomly delete half them starting right.. now and you have no option to keep any of it!! Instead there were choices so consumers wouldn't lose all of it. Which wasn't because MS decided to be scumbags and for no reason scale back the service.
Then reading about how users were backing up tons of stuff and taking advantage so that was the reason it was going away.
This affects the people with the Office 365 subscription service only. People utilizing the 15 GB of free storage were limited to 15 GB. That's it. Again, not opinion, just fact. They implemented a 1 TB limit for the subscribers and that solved that. There was no reason to downgrade the free service to 5 GB. Furthermore, it's not taking advantage of a situation if you utilize what is offered. It's not. So it was still a scumbag move.
I understand anyone looking from the outside for the first time, can see this as a scumbag move. Although having a bit more insight into the situation I can realize what was done and why. So, with no disrespect, it feels your opinion is based upon uninformed misconceptions. Which was fueled by the OP's post.
Honestly, you're just trying to make yourself sound more informed. You're not. See, I went online and looked it up. There is no ambiguity with what happened. You have no more knowledge about what happened than what is in either of those links, because there's no more knowledge to be had. So don't get it twisted, because while I'm more than willing to concede you have every right to a different opinion, if you start trying to imply anything other than the facts, I'm going to call you out on it.
Checking the current top comment, and it reiterates the ability to conserve your free storage. So again, it seems OP's meme was created either in sarcasm, or misinformation. Which is very common. Without an inside perspective or more information, we can only make a speculated opinion, which isn't based on fact. Not trying to change your opinion, but for me, I'd much rather base my opinion on true facts than uninformed speculation.
We don't need to use a Redditor's comment to determine whether or not you could "conserve your free storage." That is outlined in the link I posted. No, you could not. You had up to 1 year to do whatever you wanted to do with any data that exceeded 5 GB. After that you had to upgrade to a paid service, or lose the data. None of that is opinion, that is fact. Go read it if you disagree.
You see.. if the situation was black and white, this would be correct. It is also misinformed. It is basically saying Microsoft bait and switched everyone for no reason, other than to get you to sub to their service by offering free storage, then arbitrarily taking it away like candy from a baby. But it isn't true. You linked me the blogpost and I linked you an article explaining what happened which caused them to scale back their service.
It is quite literally black and white. It is spelled out in the link I posted. I'll say it again. Microsoft offered a free service. Then they scaled it back. THIS HAPPENED. There's no shade of gray here, that is exactly what happened and they make no bones about it. The blog post is from OneDrive. It is official. It is not misinformed, it is on the site. Click the link. No one said that Microsoft scaled back for "no reason." What I am saying is that Microsoft offered something free. Then they scaled it back. Then they charged money for something that was previously free. The reason that YOU offer for them scaling back HAS NO BEARING on the 15 GB to 5 GB change. That only applies to the Office 365 subscribers that had unlimited storage. A reduction to the unlimited storage to 1 TB (also a scumbag move) was implemented to solve the problem that you describe. Why do I think that was a scumbag move? Because if you don't want people to treat it like it's unlimited storage, don't offer them unlimited storage.
Hey buddy you know all those family photos you have? Well ya. it's 10 GB, sorry buddy, we're going to randomly delete half them starting right.. now and you have no option to keep any of it!!
This is not what I'm saying. You're building a straw man. They notified everyone, as you already stated, to which I've already said I agree with (because it's obviously a fact), with plenty of time to remove any data in excess of 5 GB. At the end of my last comment I noted, "What I didn't realize is that there already were paid storage plans in place prior to scaling back." This is the only thing I didn't understand at the beginning of this conversation. That changes things a bit, but I still think it's a scumbag move. That's my opinion. You have a different opinion about that. Fine that's great. We can leave it at that.
Everything in this comment is simply me repeating myself. At this point, unless you have something new to add to the discussion, I'm done. I'm not going to argue facts that either you don't understand or you're twisting. I've posted a link from an official source that VERY CLEARLY outlines what happened.
The only thing left out is what we think about it. I'm secure in what I think and I understand exactly what I read. You can pretend that I don't understand if you want to try to look superior, but anyone with half a brain that does the research will recognize that's what you're doing. I'm not interested in that conversation.
Yeah, I remember when I started using the OneDrive, it was quite clear that only 5gb would be free and the extra 10gb was a free trial. I don't use it so I never opted to keep the extra space. I just made sure I never exceeded 5gb worth of storage. And I'm even the kind of guy who misses that stuff and is poor at planning for when those types of specials end.
Seems like OP failed on this one. Everyone in the thread has verified that Microsoft was quite clear about the 15gb. Sorry, OP, this one is on you.
dgpoop ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:28:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tryna cash in on the microsoft circle jerk eh? fuck off
Has Microsoft always been this low? I mean i know they have always been kind of shitty (as all large companies are). But it seems like i am seeing Microsoft do shit like this more and more.
egeek84 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:51:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did this to me with Office 365, "Hey sign up for this and we'll give you unlimited for life! We're serious!" 6 months later, I get the email "Ohh yeah about that, sorry some of you guys actually thought we were serious when we said that and used all the data we were advertising so umm yeah we can't offer that anymore, byeeeee!" I ended up cancelling Office 365 cuz that's really the main reason why I signed up for it too.
Onedrive was slow and refused to work when I needed it to. Word docs took minutes vs seconds on dropbox. The office integration was great, but not good enough for me to keep using it.
Bummer that this is happening, even if OP did miss the popup or whatever promo.
I've got 30 GB for free from Google Drive for being an early adopter.
Fuck yeah. #sorrynotsorry
I was looking around for some extra space because it's full and I was like "Dropbox, they were the first, they've gotta have lots of space, right?" 2 GB. I was like, "WTF? I've got videos from my cellphone that are bigger than that."
I'm going to upgrade to the 100 GB Google Drive one of these days. It's practically free at like $2 a month. That's insanely cheap when you think about how much a 100 GB hard drive used to cost just 10-years ago. Adding the fact that Google Drive is a cloud service with dedicated off-site backups, if it weren't for how shitty our internet service providers are in the USA (Fuck you, Comcast), you could almost do away with any on-site storage and never EVER worry about hard drive crashes taking down your personal and work data.
When I start my business, their 1 TB for $10 / month, 10 TB for $100 / month, would pay for itself in one server collapse.
I'm stressing all of this because over the last three months, I've been doing NOTHING but recovering numerous failed computer systems with incomplete (SQL only), or completely non-existent backups where 99% of all critical business documents, forms, receipts went down with the server. It happens all the time.
Fun fact: A RAID1, mirror, doesn't protect you when both copies are corrupted. Opened up the case, and almost every capacitor near the CPU was blown. So it was blowing who-knows how many corrupted bytes into those poor partitions.
Last week a client lost both master file tables on their partition (read: FUBAR) so as a last resort I had to run PhotoRec which reads every block in RAW mode and tries to find files. It's an amazing tool written by amazing people. But the problem is, the file table contains all the filenames. So even if I save your important invoices, they're going to be in a sea of 10,000's of other PDFs all named "21102.pdf", "21103.pdf", "21104.pdf". So enjoy scrolling through a sea of thumbnails to try and find the document you actually need.
Here's one more everyone misses: If an important document is on a workstation, and that workstation dies? It doesn't mean jack shit if the server is getting backed up. PUT EVERYTHING IMPORTANT on a network drive located on the server, for the love of God. "But I've got backups!" doesn't mean anything if your IT rep is too stupid to capture your important files.
Lastly: OFF-SITE BACKUP. A backup that sits in the same room as the server, or same building, might as well not be a backup. If a fire hits, you're screwed. If a robber hits, you're screwed. If a power surge hits, you may be screwed.
Those are all issues that cloud-backups do really well. And most companies don't really push 1-10 TB of data--at least not data that's actually business critical.
I had 30 gig, pretty pissed Microsoft has downsized me to 5. I was happily backing up my phone images, and using this service. After receiving my notification, its taken me a while to get over it.
I also understand microsofts claim to people who were abusing the system and backing up Tera bytes of info.
ss0889 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:24:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2 bucks for 100 gb on google drive. you can just set your entire c:\users[your username] folder as your sync drive and keep your downloads or w/e elsewhere.
personally i just have an e:\google drive folder that gets everything saved. dont bother saving music because its by default always backed up to multiple places. google photos backs up everything in e:\photos and movies have no backup apart from buying on blu-ray.
Since I'm getting cut to 5gb as well I looked into other providers. Google Drive definitely is enticing but I dislike how uploaded files count towards your limit. Amazon allows for unlimited photos no matter how they get on there. Unfortunately they don't have a nice desktop sync app. Odrive seems to be the solution though; I wrote about it here:
Big chains get Microsoft for nothing. Fry's can sell a laptop with Windows 10 for 75 dollars. If I want to build my own computer I have to pay 200'for Windows? Like WTF? I hate OSX or whatever apple uses and it seems Microsoft is just trying to copy their OS. I don't want a monthly bill to use their software. I don't want to freaking upgrade every year. Microsoft has basically forced me to use a shitty OS that doesn't even work right. If I could I would build a system that runs on Windows 98. Too bad you can't get drivers for anything for that OS. I just want to turn my computer on and use MY software. Not use half my processing power to serve me bate and switch offers from Microsoft every day. Thanks for the free upgrade to Windows 10 BTW. Now if you could just make it compatible with my video card in my Alienware computer, that would be great!
It's all about the cash-cow with microsoft. And Bill Gates has more money than he or his offspring could ever think to spend! Guess that's how you run a successful company though...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:08:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what they will do with Windows 10 later on. Hey your OS is free! Oh you want to change (insert commonly changed thing here)? Well that'll be tree fiddy please.
This will get buried, but personal cloud storage is also a great option. I have a WD MyCloud. It plugs into my router, and I have cloud storage that I can access from anywhere.
They got fucked honestly they used to give unlimited but some dick went and uploaded a few hundred terabytes and they stripped it and made it lower and lower. Google and one drive are still the best two but Google is going to win this one
![Scumbag Microsoft [OneDrive]](https://i.redd.it/wniaakh5598x.jpg){kind=link}
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rlgl ยท 1765 points ยท Posted at 19:13:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I recall correctly, didn't they run like a half-year-long "Preserve your free 15gb by clicking OK" campaign? I am quite certain, because I still have my 15gb, and I kept it by opening the link and clicking one button.
[deleted] ยท 617 points ยท Posted at 20:56:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 22:55:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never bought a windows phone but still have 30gb. Are you sure it was a deal for windows phones?
glowinghamster45 ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 23:01:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it was 15 for signing up, then 15 more if you set up auto camera upload. But technically as soon as you set up a Windows phone the backup is enabled, whereas you have to go into settings and check a box for iOS and Android.
emeraldcocoaroast ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:08:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When setting up an iOS device, backup is automatically enabled unless the user chooses not to use iCloud.
glowinghamster45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not talking about backups, talking about OneDrive. And since windows phone uses OneDrive for the backup, they get the 15 gig bonus without having to hit extra buttons.
emeraldcocoaroast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:48 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh got it, my mistake!
primetimemime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:44 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but they're talking about using OneDrive to backup photos
Koutou ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:51:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people got grandfatherer on old plan. I have 25GB because I clicked on a link like 5 years ago.
nonangryblackguy ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 00:05:02 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
330GB I used to work for microsoft http://imgur.com/nLBfuDC
nofap32 ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 00:20:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He even worked for Microsoft and doesn't put any data in OneDrive.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:36:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do I make up for it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what could you be uploading that adds up to 1 tb ?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:29:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Important files, I swear.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how did you get soo much data ?
Koutou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Office 365 gives you 1 TB.
stormarsenal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That must be a lot of shows! I've seen some 400 titles, still my collection is half that.
nonangryblackguy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:12:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hardly use cloud storage anything in there was automatically backed up or a few important documents
bjbyrne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I have 30GB. Maybe because I was a DOS 3.3 customer?
Edit: My first MS product was MS Basic for an Atari 1200XL circa 1982. I still have it.
ungratefulanimal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy smokes. did you email it to everyone in the company? Dropbox had something similar until recently. I had like 20 gb and they reduced it to like 9 or so gb...
nonangryblackguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They used to give out free storage codes. Also I had Windows phone
kdotdash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 205gb free. Telstra gave it to me in Australia.
ungratefulanimal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard of telstra
kdotdash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's our biggest ISP in Australia. They offer bonus's with plans etc.
TILiamaTroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just checked mine, 8.92 GB used of 1.12 TB
No clue how I have some much storage
pinkbutterfly1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:49 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Office
lotsum20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some will say it's photoshop
nonangryblackguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fine I know the truth
lotsum20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:28 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice answer. Saving that one. It eases and placates the bullshit. Only dumb fks will continue. Respect (nods ;)
So anyway...
anothercookie90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:46 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 265 GB through various 100% free promos they've run in the past
http://i.imgur.com/TSIRFl0.png
CodnmeDuchess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:36 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 1.03 Terabytes...
quiteCryptic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratz..
CodnmeDuchess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hah. I realize how that reads, its more that I'm incredulous as to how. Your post prompted me to check and see how much I have...I have no idea how I have do much one drive storage though.
nonangryblackguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:33 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you go to one drive and click on your account it'll be near the bottomo
fox_eyed_man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No worries. Your username allows for a certain amount of arrogance and braggadocio in your comments. Just a perk of being the world's greatest secret agent.
nonangryblackguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's nice. Did you pay for it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a subscription to Office 365 which grants you 1TB.
nonangryblackguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:48 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh that's great mine is permanent though. I also get to have a msdn account
CodnmeDuchess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely not
NoFussFred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:13 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Want to sell?
nonangryblackguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:26:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's linked to my Xbox account which I have Xbox live until 2019
NoFussFred ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:32:11 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah all good:)
alexiz424 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:16 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
130GB because I clicked on some shit Microsoft sent me. http://imgur.com/0zWQxPc
Edit: forgot to add link.
the_harakiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even older grand father here. Got 40 GB
nancam9 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:33:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I must be old, I read that as 30GB for WordPerfect customers ...
:P
Deathjack059m ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:01:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your not the only one who though wordperfect
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[F3] FTW!
joneSee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:27:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Microsoft must be old, that IS exactly what they meant. Sometimes EvilCorp TM just can't kill dead competitors enough. Have you heard about the deal for Lotus 1-2-3 users?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:32:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I can't wait till people start complaining that they weren't warned and missed the deadline for a free Windows 10 upgrade.
Caster1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what there is a dead line?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if you're joking...
fisch09 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:56:34 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also have options for permanent upgrades through bing rewards. At least a couple months ago they did.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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fisch09 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out bing rewards you get points for searching with bing after so many you can cash out. If you do the max every day you can get 5 dollars a month in amazon.
ElimAgate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
~$14.3333333333333 if you do everything all month long, maintain gold etc.
fisch09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that is highly accurate, I just don't like when people talk in terms of the high bar value.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:51:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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hpstg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:55:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happy customer with 40GB. I got 10 extra for having an old Hotmail account.
RubberFanny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:45 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea same, I have 45GB free
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's going away too...
hpstg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:13 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:06 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Actually your're right. The loyalty bonus apparently is staying since it doesn't have a label saying it will go away.
"The storage limit for all free OneDrive accounts will become 5 GB. If you currently have a free account with a 15 GB storage limit, that limit will reduce to 5 GB. All new free accounts will have 5 GB storage. The 15 GB camera roll storage bonus will also be discontinued for free accounts. These changes will start rolling out in early 2016.
GarbageCanStan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Early 2016? We are half way through 2016. Am I missing something?
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:10 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The roll out date is July 27 2016.
halfsammich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:11 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I got 10TB free when I emailed them
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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anothercookie90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it was 30 GB for anyone who downloaded the app at the time of the promotion.
ForgotUserID ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Android Moto G had something like this but 50GB with Google. They rescinded a year later and left me "Over limit" on everything over 15GB. Couldn't upload anymore until I dropped under.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:10:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cjrobe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:55 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The screen looked like this when he got the 50gb.
No idea how you could miss the 2 years part.
cjrobe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:33 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bull. It very clearly said the 50GB was not a permanent storage upgrade. Reading is fun.
http://www.bgr.in/news/heres-how-to-get-50gb-free-google-drive-space-with-the-moto-g/
BeetusZero ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:37:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*customer
mario0318 ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 23:28:55 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I did that but it only extended the expiration date. Mine still shows 25GB of the 30GB will expire by Aug 10th. Are you sure your Microsoft account page for OneDrive doesn't give an expiration date for each additional storage bonus? I'm nearly certain once that expires it'll go back to 5GB, at least for me.
mMaple_syrup ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 00:30:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My account shows the exact same thing you are describing.
Microsoft has it clearly written out on this page: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/OneDrive-storage-changes-FAQ-ea9a86b6-d78e-42ac-af54-fefa22ce5324?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US
SaggyNipplez ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:23:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This should be top comment lmao
themailboxofarcher ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:41 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you want them to just keep throwing money at your forgotten documents forever? Puhlease. Of course they're gonna take it away eventually.
throwawaythatisnew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't really get the point of a back up solution, do you?
themailboxofarcher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:27:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Onedrive isn't a backup solution and doesn't advertise itself that way. It's a way to synchronize your useful stuff so it's available on all devices.
If you think any backup solution for a computer involves the cloud then I don't think you get the point. Do you have any concept of how long it takes to download a computer worth of information?
Plus, it doesn't matter what you want. Servers cost money. So they're going to offer what they can afford and charge what they need.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mario0318 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:13 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like a desperate move to get people to stick and subscribe to any Microsoft service. Frankly after these moves on their part I've quit considering OneDrive for cloud storage and have disabled it entirely from Windows.
cheez_au ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:11 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get all the bonuses!
Limitr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:02 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I just checked my account. It simply say's I've got 15 of 30GB of data. No-where does it say it'll expire.
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And I got the email that has been described. By memory it said nothing about only extending the data limit temporarily.
StealthRabbi ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 22:54:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but people don't read
hen_vorsh ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:13:57 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I never even received an email or any notification. Went back and checked my email and spam folder, nothing. Looks like this was only by word of mouth.
FountainsOfFluids ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:46:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have my Onedrive attached to a live.com email account that I never look at. I went into it just now because of this thread, and it has zero emails. I have no idea how I was supposed to know this was coming.
TheManThatWasntThere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:08:41 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iirc it was only sent to people using more than the new limit, so it was only sent out to those using more than 5gb
rager123 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:05:59 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm not 100% certain but I think it was click here or fill this form in and get upgraded to 15 GB.
nidrach ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:23:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You had to log in once.
BottledUp ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 00:14:04 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THE HORROR
andraxo123 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:12:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hodor
Wahsteve ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:37:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:(
plato1123 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:00:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean the name was a reference to Microsoft screwing their customers out of one drive capacity this whole time?! No fucking spoilers ass-hat!!
andraxo123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:59 on July 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
calm down , how was that a spoiler
plato1123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:17 on July 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
//joke
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nevermimnd your logic.
SnOrfys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:06 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In most people's defense, with the amount of spammy bullshit practices that MS has been adopting, I don't read their mails either.
StealthRabbi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
turns out there wasn't an email. it was just word of mouth. Kinda shitty.
SaltTM ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 23:09:04 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the point, Microsoft knows this else they wouldn't have done this in general. Those that cared for their space got reminded for like a year, every news outlet covered that news, etc... reminders leading up to it and lol it's peoples own fault for not paying attention. I think this ultimately lead up to this point because people abusing the unlimited space (literally uploading terabytes of data) and they wanted to regain some hard drive space.
Though I believe they did not email you regarding it because that's too easy. I never got an email about it, found out via twitter/news outlets.
zacker150 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny. I got 3 emails.
SaltTM ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, I got 0.
cold_iron_76 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:06:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got multiple emails. I don't believe you.
Kansas_cty_shfl ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 23:11:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This comment needs to be higher. Not Microsoft's fault op missed the bazillion notifications this was going to happen and missed his opportunity to prevent it.
Edit: wasn't the top comment when I posted this. Glad it took its rightful place.
SVTBert ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:08:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I genuinely do not have any emails on my Microsoft account informing me of this.
mercels-denu ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:12:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. I got the email saying it would be reduced from 15GB to 5GB but I could keep it all if I claimed 1 year free Microsoft office or something. I tried to claim but it said it wasn't available in Australia :(
Firefoxray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check your spam
SVTBert ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:04:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't have posted about not receiving an email without checking spam/junk first.
dam072000 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:06:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk Microsoft throws out a lot of random unsolicited notifications. No I don't want to upgrade the OS or the Office suite for the 50th time.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:09:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never gotten an email from Micrsoft telling me about windows or office needing to be updated...
dam072000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I said notifications. I get an email from Microsoft Student that I ignore.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since when aren't emails notifications?
dam072000 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:53:33 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since windows added a "notification" thing that pops up repeatedly on the bottom right?
Edit: You were the one that said you were getting informed by Microsoft of updates and OS changes.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't all of a sudden make an email a notification.
No i'm not. In fact I said the exact opposite.
dam072000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:34:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's like you flipped your argument 180 degrees.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:02 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm try re-reading and pay close attention to who says what.
dam072000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:51 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I said notifications to start with. That would include the popups they do in their "notification" place on the bottom left, and not be exclusively emails. I then had a sentence about how I got Microsoft student emails that I ignore.
You asked "when aren't emails notifications" and I was confused as fuck because I never said they weren't until I replied because I had no clue what the fuck you were getting at.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ME:
You:
Which implies emails aren't notifications.
I'm sorry you're unable to follow a conversation.
dam072000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:11 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Notifications aren't exclusively emails...
You: I never got a square.
Me: I said quadrilaterals.
You: I didn't get a square so quadrilaterals weren't sent.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:33:16 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:01:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The "hoop" was basically to verify you were still a living human.
SwaggadelicBaby ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:55:41 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There were no hoops, you logged in and that's it
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:03:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Zebidee ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, my thumb drive doesn't care how long I leave data on it, and it doesn't get hacked at random.
grrrriggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You paid for your thumb drive. You didn't pay for your one drive account.
EveryNightIWatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When has onedrive been hacked?
thefig ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:25:04 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or people who leave it there forever cause they forgot they put it there and dont use the service
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So thats like one hoop?
Occupier_9000 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...That's a hoop...
Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything with accounts requires signing in, how else would they know which account it's for?
Occupier_9000 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have to login and do an additional click that they randomly added in. Random stipulation or: Your photos and shit you added before this stipulation are held hostage, pay us now.
AbbaZabbaFriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And why is that so hard? Are you that lazy?
Occupier_9000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:55:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not the point. It's disingenuous. A form of theft by deception. Like those 'free with rebate' deals you get on electronics but you have to mail in this barcode that the company knows a certain percentage of people will accidentally throw out.
"Oh well it should've been easy to mail a letter/click a button the fault is with you" might mean that they aren't legally liable for anything---but everyone should point out that it is dishonest business practice. The equivalent of neener neener I'm not touching you. Microsoft is a shitty company (for numerous reasons not just this one) and ought to be punished by consumers not using their products whenever possible (which isn't always because they are an anti-competitive monopoly in certain markets).
AbbaZabbaFriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol whatever man they gave CLEAR warning of what was happening. Should they call everyone up and make sure they understand?
Occupier_9000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:18:03 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, when companies rip people off with 'free' rebate offers they are required to state that to need to mail in a barcode or whatever. The fact that they write this in plain text means that no one has grounds to sue them. It doesn't alter the fact that they are disingenuously hoping someone will miss it. It's almost like you expect that the sort of 'I covered my ass technically' excuse holds any water outside of the context questions of legal liability. As though that flys IRL to also convince those pointing out shitty behavior to change their minds. They are holding people's data hostage for money. It's dishonest. These sorts of dismissive excuses are why people hate lawyers.
Kansas_cty_shfl ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:59:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I presume it was a free promotion that was utilized way more than they expected, so they decided to slash storage for people that weren't using it or didn't care in order to make it reasonable to continue the program. It wasn't much of a hoop either. I clicked a link in one of several emails I received, took less than 10 seconds. It's not like it was some 2 hour registration with a bunch of personal data, or a monthly requirement to keep clicking links to keep it active.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:51 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People used the free space one drive initially offered to store terabytes of illegally shared material. From what I remember.
BottledUp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:51 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A promotion says "you get stuff for a limited amount of time", you take it, then after 6 months it says "well, you can keep it even longer, but click here for that". If you don't click, why the hell do you think you should get anything for free? In what fairyland do you live?
riffdex ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:52:57 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which was a valid complaint against MS when they went through with cutting the plans originally. Why did MS promise us 15 GB if they were unsure of their ability to maintain this obligation? For the record I still have my 15 GB.
deadaim_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:45 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, but why would they take it away for not clicking to a website? Just give it to everyone.
jlu97 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:27 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it costs money, and Microsoft a corporation which certainly wouldnt want to waste the minimal ammount of it. I'm not saying it is correct, but that is certainly the reason.
RedditCommenter1 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:52:35 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, the comment should be lower. Microsoft has no right to assume you'll read their spam.
Jedielf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:21:41 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't preventable for me. I had 15gb, now I only have 5gb or I have to pay.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:55 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, I did that but mine says food until 7/26
edmazing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:28 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never got that email or noticed anything about it until they put up a notice when I went to store something "Oh hay you've got 5GB now GL - micro shit" or I would have clicked it
vlasvilneous ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:35:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cant do all that, make it voluntary!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:35 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the point? "Click this button and we don't change anything - ignore it and fuck you"
Why even bother? Microsoft's PR game needs some help.
Danta1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where do i find this link?
cheez_au ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They sent three emails earlier this year. You've already missed the boat.
Jedielf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:13 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was forced to 5gb too, from 15gb. I got plenty of warning. but I still think they are scumbag. I wasn't going to start paying, which is what they wanted. so I had to find a new source to store the excess of 5gb. Plus I even pay yearly for my email.
Xanza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, they did. I ended up getting between 2 and 5 emails about it, too.
18_INCH_DOUBLE_DONG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I pay for the larger size now. Cheap as shit for the peace of mind
THEMACGOD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still have my 40.
groovyreg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 130GB. Not sure how... https://imgur.com/0DbC22W
GeneticsGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, and I actually called MS customer service and told them an issue and the dude gave me 3 free months of 50GB to give me time to move my 25GB out... I guess I am the sucker though because I ended up storing like 35GB now and just gave in and paid the $2 for the 50GB per month, just to have everything in sync all the time. I swear, one day I am going to clean up my onedrive account and cancel the service, but 2 bucks a month was really nothing, so why not. And that is how MS got me hooked into OneDrive
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. I bought the amazon thing for like $5 at christmas where it's usually $50 one year, but fortunately I never used it much.
cd29 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:44:07 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could have swore I had like 25GB free from M$ for awhile. They had Microsoft MyPhone, Windows Mobile cloud sync for everything. Contacts, files, call history, texts, pictures were available online. They also had a LogMeIn-esque service after Vista launched, which was a beta invite-only program that they bundled with my SkyDrive.
Then they went all Azure/OneDrive/Office365/Outlook.com and discontinued MyPhone and their 'Sky' suite. I was sent an e-mail saying I could get all of my files on a DVD set and mailed to me since they had to switch. I opted in and probably paid for the DVD service, but never got them. The only thing I got was an early sign-up and claimed a sweet outlook.com address.
Einlander ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:06 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a touch pro 2 with myphone installed. And sky drive desktop was interesting. Then they kept moving their services.
CANT_ARGUE_DAT_LOGIC ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MICROSOFT.
STOP TRYING TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING HAPPEN, THEY AREN'T GOING TO HAPPEN:
SINCERELY, A GOOGLE USER.
DrPepper86 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:49 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very happy with my OneDrive.
Not to mention the TB of space I (and four of my family members) have included with my Office365 subscription
CANT_ARGUE_DAT_LOGIC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spoken like a true 20-something.
DrPepper86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 30, actually
hayfever76 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was s lllooonnnggg series of warnings earlier this year that some people were losing some of their space. But it was no surprise.
Zubutatu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:08:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you dont use over 5GB they send you a email
dradam168 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, they don't delete anything if you somehow missed that and are over the new limit. They just don't let you upload anything new until you're back under.
So, basically, the OP is 100% full of shit.
KieferO ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 22:34:58 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://xkcd.com/1150/
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Instagram
PVTPistol ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:36:45 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never a more relevant xkcd.
charm803 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:32:06 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am always in awe that people always seem to find the relevant xkcd.
SanJoseSharts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the "smart smugness" of Xkcd. Not saying theyre bad comics but they come off like the people who "win" long internet arguments
emoposer ยท 1158 points ยท Posted at 18:51:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google Drive gives you 15 GB for free.
dhshawon ยท 471 points ยท Posted at 19:03:04 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And occasionally more if you do the privacy check thing. Good guy Google.
Also, Google Photos gives you unlimited storage if you're willing to do compression (quality is still great after compression).
emoposer ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 19:06:06 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, Google Drive/Photos are the real life Pied Piper (not sure if it's middle out though).
etinaz ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 20:16:15 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure they line them up and
strokecompress two at a timeYeahTacos ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 20:31:52 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really does depend on the girth of the file.
hawksking ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 20:39:22 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why does it say 0 KB used?
Dekklin ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 21:10:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where's the download button.
GhostOfBarron ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 21:29:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Skynet.
thenamedone1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:36:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Traiklin ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:11:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why is my 36gb game only 345kb? That's amazing compression!
Wandertramp ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:23:15 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So my pictures are on everyone's computer?
Anonymo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:04 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes and No
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And maybe
UncleNorman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cloud storage.
etinaz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's because it's 3D content
DMann420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:41 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unnecessary. It's so small you cached it into 1 bit when you loaded the page.
erishun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1 bit! Your file is either "0" or its "1".
That's amazing compression!
BeastftMiddleEast ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:00:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much data can one man manipulate at once?
pimp-bangin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:35:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this comment, I'm super bored right now and this reminded me that I'm only halfway through season 2
CJ090 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 23:04:21 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pfft I bet you use spaces too
PMPhotography ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:07:24 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, why would anyone use spaces?! It's wrong?!
boxsterguy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:38:51 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What really bugged me about that scene, though, was the spacebar. I use spaces, but I don't use the spacebar to insert them (and I definitely don't do 8-space tabstops. That's completely unreadable). I use the tab key like everybody else, and have my IDE translate 1 tab = 4 spaces (2 spaces if I'm doing xml or json).
Spaces master race!
Ohrion ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:10:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree so hard. I cringed along with him while she pushed space 8 times over and over. What modern UI doesn't do auto-spacing/auto-tabulation?
TheMexicanRobot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:29:28 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I died when he down the stairs. "I tried to skip 8 steps"
donkeedong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You use an IDE? Join the vim master race, you pauper
boxsterguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:36 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use both. I'm no emacs loser.
thelightshow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:25:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it really doesn't matter anyway.
aceman1011 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:43:19 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must have never used Python before....
kinkysnowman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:45 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No I don't!
Edit: Tabs don't work on reddit, time to delete my account. No karma in the world is worth having to deal with spaces, ughh!
pimp-bangin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you I use spaces and I'm proud of it
bobsp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slacker
Squirrelbacon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:49 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuuuuck. Jealous you have that much more to watch
pimp-bangin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel this way about anyone who hasn't watched the latest season of Game of Thrones
emoposer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too often people forget how awesome TV is.
zikronix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:22 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same!
wOlfLisK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:04 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well considering how Google is part of the inspiration for Hooli... Not sure Pied Piper is the best one to use.
Sharpopotamus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:18:55 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know it's Google and not Apple? Idk, the Gavin Belson/Steve Jobs parallels seem pretty strong
eastsideski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hooli is supposed to be Google, but Belson is based on Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff
wOlfLisK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hooli is an amalgam of a bunch of companies, mostly Google and Apple with a bunch of evilness thrown in for good measure.
Artyloo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:33 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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etinaz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is both Google and Apple
NoFussFred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean wanking off two dudes at once compression?
zf420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:49 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And Google Play Music lets you upload 50,000 songs for free, no subscription required.
WestsideStorybro ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:43:49 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup But I am a sucker for HD so I go full res. Not having friends helps me save space for more photos. So it works itself out.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:28:41 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, I have lots of pictures of you.
etinaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was the same way. But that Pied Pier shit is so good, that after comparing side by side, I saw ZERO difference.
cjrobe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:17:13 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon Prime Photos gives you unlimited space for photos of any size, including RAW. I think they're a bunch of idiots for offering that but I'll take advantage of it for now.
WestsideStorybro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I know because I also back my PC up to the amazon cloud. Google handles the phone.
zycamzip ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:41:36 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mega - 50gb free nuff said
lobster777 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:41:48 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is mega safe to use? I remember megavideo did not turn out so well
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:14:08 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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xSociety ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:28:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't even aware that happened.
CANT_ARGUE_DAT_LOGIC ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 03:09:39 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chinks ruin everything.
Kazumara ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:00:18 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have a setup such that only you can ever decrypt the data, they don't hold the key, so arguably it's better than the rest of them.
Unless I misunderstood what you mean by safe.
askjacob ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:08:58 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the other "safe" like, "all my stuff is gone, because the feds seized the servers" which is what happened last time. I can't weigh in much on that this time, it is meant to be better this time round, but like any "cloud" service, your stuff is only as safe as the parent company...
PythagorasJones ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:23:46 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Confidentiality, Integrity and Availability. The classic InfoSec CIA triad.
wedgie ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:04:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pick two if you aren't your own backup system.
321System123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:12:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NAS HEROES!
askjacob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aww, if only our CEOs stopped going to info brunches and getting glossy brochures, the outsourcing might stop :( 4 years time, it will be inhouse again, I can bet, but I can't imagine the pain of getting the info back in...
PythagorasJones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:15:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im guessing you're misunderstanding what each component means. They're nothing mutually exclusive about this if you work to least privilege.
wedgie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:35 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Naw, I'm joking more or less. I use Dropbox as one of my backup sources (nothing much I have is very confidential, and if I do need to backup something remotely that is sensitive, I encrypt it myself), but I know that several services exist that follow proper protocols and standards and meet specifications.
Kazumara ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:34 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think eventually they were able to put the files from the mega servers up for a last time download basically or am I confusing that? But I guess on that front you're right, they seem to be more at risk of sweeping law enforcement action
Well but not really if they don't have the key they can't leak anything, unless a hacker or law enforcement manage to change out the client software somehow to obtain your key through mega servers.
Esscocia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:25:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think what he is really trying to say is that if they are taken down again, its likely their cloud servers will go down too and so you will lose your files.
The chances of something like that happening to google or microsoft are slim to none.
Kazumara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But that's exactly what my first two sentences adressed
askjacob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean as far as availability, not content. Also as far as any kind of responsiveness or service. If there is any kind of issues, you will be one of millions. Your complaints won't be worth a damn.
Even as a paying client you will be the bottom of the barrel compared to their enterprise clientele. Working through some enterprise channels, even those are very stratified, and in major issues unless you are at the top you are ignored.
SLAs are of no teeth, what good is saving a few $$ on the month when you missed critical things within your org? It sucks for IT as they look like the bad guys for a what really was a possibly a poor financial decision, they can't influence the external vendor and just feebly log another incident...
holocaustic_soda ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:31:08 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your files will be safe, because even the feds won't be able to crack into your child porn collection.
askjacob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
again, what I mean is, what happens when you go to login and you get a "Service not available" screen like so many did back with the previous mega debacle? Sure, use your backups. Problem is, a lot of people found out back then what a backup really is - those using it for non-nefarious reasons that is...
Remember, your 1st "copy" elsewhere is just maybe a copy. Your backup should never be a permanently synchronised and online thing like dropbox is (ransomware will happily encrypt that too, and before you are aware of it) and an untested and unverified backup is just a hope and wish rather than a real backup.
There are too many stories, mine included of the backup that was empty, or unreadable, or didn't scoop up everything...
holocaustic_soda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you mentioned the cops, I thought you were worried about incriminating evidence.
When it comes to "what if I lose my files?" Oh heeeell no, I don't trust any of this "cloud" bullshit for backups. The only backup I use is me, myself, and my NAS.
These clouds are so you can share files with others easily.
lobster777 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Encryption is always good. I will check it out. Thanks!
qwertty69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:32 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I lost my porn on megavideo.. I still feel like crying sometimes
Byeforever ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It seems fine to me, and if I have anything really important I double back-it up anyways. I'm also using google photos to backup stuff. Just don't forget your password for mega, the system is encrypted to the point where they claim they literally can't do anything but delete the account (requires email verification so someone can't just do it to smite you) if you lost it and the 'master encryption key' file.
Alternatively just make multiple google accounts and then you can easily have access to 60 GBs (if you have an android device or a friend with one, under 'accounts' in settings there is an option to make a new google account and you can rattle them off pretty quickly). They used to prevent you from logging into drive.google.com on a pc with multiple accounts at the same time, but they appear to have stopped doing that.
cutestrawberrycake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:20 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've used it for a while, until files I deleted months ago started popping up again in my drive. It messed up my order of files as a lot of things that I update over time suddenly had all the previous versions dotted around which was a huge pain in the ass, and proves they don't delete your data even when you empty your trash bin. Good for storage that doesn't matter all that much like movies, but don't trust it with anything else.
emerikanbloke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:14 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It also uploads images automatically.
Hiphoppington ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:00 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's neat that they do it automatically for sure. I've actually got an app on my phone called IFTTT that I've configured to also automatically take any picture I take or upload to Facebook directly to my Google Drive account as well. I don't have to do anything, it's all behind the scenes stuff.
Technology kicks ass.
CammRobb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:43 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IFTTT, IF This, Then That is pretty fucking cool, I use it to put amazon/ebuyer purchase emails into an evernote list.
morpheousmarty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:33 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google photos will do that for you and is an overall better interface for handing photos. But you do you, just thought I'll put it out there.
Hiphoppington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:55 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably right. I've just got so much caught up in that app.
Ullror ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:42:32 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google uses tabs instead of spaces
fafasdf ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:47:58 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://google.github.io/styleguide/cppguide.html#Spaces_vs._Tabs
Lies.
DirtBlockHouse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:11:02 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2 spaces? My brain can't process that properly!
Katastic_Voyage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:11 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It should be noted that the Google CPP guide is NOT a guide that everyone should adhere to. Google's C++ policy translates to, "We were C coders and hated and/or didn't understand C++, and now we're paying for it out the ass with code rot." IIRC, It's even mentioned in the document itself.
They don't use exceptions, for example. Which is outright insane to say blanketly. It makes sense for consoles (many CPUs of which don't even support them), it makes sense for the real-time OS for the Mars Rover (no exceptions, no iostream, no templates, use memory pools for allocations, no operator overloading except new/delete). It does not make sense for general purpose GUI code.
Here's one article debunking their guide.
Ohrion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm OK with this.
Kairus00 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:23:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tabs <3.
JamEngulfer221 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:21 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eww. Who does that?
Ranzear ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 23:11:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People who don't confuse presentation with representation.
Tab character is only one byte and you can display it as however many spaces you want on your own goddamn client without fucking up display on other clients.
lithiumdeuteride ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:15:23 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy codes.
Ullror ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:29:02 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That guy fucks.
The_Punniest ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:44:14 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, he codes.
Ullror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My bad I thought we were still doing Silicon Valley jokes >.>
cahphoenix ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:45:28 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Except MOST of the time programmers use both tabs and spaces together. You then guess at the presentation. It's a really stupid argument. If anyone is worried about spaces taking up extra space then I'd say they haven't done much coding on team projects.
TotallyManner ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:03:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not for indentation alone, I would hope.
cahphoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:52 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For indentation alone?
What I meant was it is human nature to use spaces and tabs. MOST of the time there will be some spaces and some tabs used for indentation. You use spaces between keywords/variables/tokens/etc. Then you use tabs to flesh out the layout. It's impossible not to do this because you have to use spaces.
You end up with spaces and tabs on the same line. That can't always be fixed easily on different clients. You then have several people "fixing the layout". Spaces can only be a single spaces. There is no problem. Pretty much every environment also has a "use tabs as spaces" option. Use it and never have to screw with tabs again.
Every project I've ever worked on has had a NO TABS rules in the standard. I don't see any argument against it to be honest. Feel free to give me one.
TotallyManner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:35 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm saying use tabs for indenting and spaces for alignment.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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bkuhns ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:06:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Specifying presentation is one thing. Forcing it is another. I want to flip out every time I open a source file at work who's author decided 2 spaces are enough indentation. I can only assume they prefer this so their 15-scope indented code fits horizontally on their screen. Anyway, my brain can't handle that, I have to concentrate so much harder on following the indentation to understand the code. If 2 spaces work for you, great, but why punish me when my brain prefers 4?
Okay, so let's solve this argument once and for all, okay? WE'RE GONNA GO IT! Specify the presentation of the structure of the code using tabs (bare with me). If you want to vertically align things within the structure, use spaces. Yes, really. Now if I have a 4-space tab setting, everything renders fine and the in-line vertical alignment is preserved because that's done with spaces. If someone else decides 3-space tabs are where it's at, the same file will still render perfectly!
I've been doing this for years and have converted several of my co-workers. They've never looked back!
We can have our cake and eat it too!
piedmontchris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:57 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Name checks out
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The number of people in the industry who don't understand this is shocking.
boxsterguy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but then you have to manage tab stop settings in all of the different tools you use, your editor, your differ, the command line, indexing results, etc. 4 spaces is 4 spaces, whether I'm looking at it in Visual Studio or Vim or Windiff or catted on the command line or whatever. But tab could be 4 en-spaces in one, 8 in another, etc.
CheeseGratingDicks ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:38 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sir are a heathen of the worst order.
fx32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:06 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, 3 spaces is better! And LFCR at the end of the line!
piedmontchris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote b/c sarcasm. I hope...
fx32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot a double space after your period.
TheTurnipKnight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously can't tell a difference between their converted photos and mine original. I have a huge library backed up on Photos is crazy. And the best thing is that you can search it using all of these insane Google image recognition algorithms.
Nic3GreenNachos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:04:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, if you're in college and your college uses the Google email service, you might also have the unlimited google drive storage bundled with the email service that your college provides to its students.
Domsdey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a legit college and somebody made a slight effort, you are probably on the Google Apps for Education edition and you indeed have unlimited storage.
Nic3GreenNachos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not well informed about the administration colleges, but I bet you're right. I thought that I would try to be as clear and cautious about the potential for the unlimited drive storage, though.
chakalakasp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:22 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They give you unlimited storage with no compression if you pay for their Apps product. Which also allows you to use gmail for your personal domain name.
Domsdey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you pay for the Unlimited edition for their business product and have more than 4 users.*
If you are on the $5 edition you get 30GB, if you are on the $10 edition AND you have 4 or less users, you get 1TB.
chakalakasp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:27 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, I must have gotten grandfathered or there must be a glitch for me. I have unlimited everything but I only have one user on my account -- me. I did get the account a long time ago, though.
Domsdey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure it's unlimited? Check here: https://www.google.com/settings/storage
To my knowledge there never was a version that would allow you to have unlimited storage with just one user, I could be wrong though.
chakalakasp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it definitely is. "You're using 2.53 TB" "Everyone at [my domain] can use unlimited storage!"
Domsdey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Odd. Can you send me a screenshot of your Billing page (no personal information in there) - here? Or just let me know what it says in there?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:04 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Domsdey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:13 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their prices are per user per month. Yes, you can register 5 users, but then you would be paying $50 per month.
docatron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are we talking middle-out compression?
RubberFanny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
next they'll make a video chat app using said compression!
JediBurrell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't compress if you are a part of the Nexus Master Race.
shouldbebabysitting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean? I'm on Nexus and got a prompt to choose compress or limited space.
marshedpotato ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:21:37 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i bought a phone that came with 50GB of google drive. returned the phone and got the free storage XD
giganticprune ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:18:26 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work for a phone company. Anytime we put up a demo phone that qualifies for the free storage I login with my Gmail, claim my free storage then wipe the phone. I'm at like 250 gigs of drive space. Although some of that is expiring sometime soon. I think it's good for like two years.
Hiphoppington ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:03:55 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like that's probably frowned upon but I'd do it too.
cold_iron_76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:02 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:17:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus: you can get 1TB free if you review several stores, add photos on Google Maps, etc.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:33:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait how does this work because I would love me some Google drive space that is free
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:41:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First off, you go on Google's Local Guides page and sign up. Then all you have to do is open the Google Maps app and go in the Contribute tab, then you can give specifications on certain shops/restaurants, give reviews (you must write a review to get points, a rating alone doesn't work), send photos (tip: on Android, once you take a photo of a store with your normal camera app, you can press the Share button and select Google Maps to contribute a photo), etc.
You gain one point per contribution, which take time to earn I tell you, but once you have 200 points, you reach Level 4 and obtain the Google Drive space!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So like in a year or two that is a nice 100GB of space. Thanks for the information.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome, I wanted to be helpful.
LovableContrarian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:54:34 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
100 gb now.
These guys were all in a space race, now they are needing their plans.
efbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still got a couple of weeks to get to that 200 points.
extra_coco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't remember if it is a week or 2 left of the 1 tb offer they sent me an email recently so make sure to finish up if you have not already :)
extra_coco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was right here is the info on still getting the big storage amount about 10 days left
styles662 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:53 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Several... Its 500 which i determined was too much for two years of extra storage.
rivermandan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also, you can store up to 50 thousand mp3s for free
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:57 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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dhshawon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The web interface really sucks. But on mobile, it's one if the best.
mayavision ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like the mobile one. I have to dig for pics. It uploads them before i get yo name them. I cant put them in folders like ms. I cam created albums by searching and adding one at a time. I have thousands of pictures. MS makes it easy. Google gives me headaches
nacho_balls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Png
Salisen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:43 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It's debatable how long they'll offer unlimited storage for once they try to compress pictures of your mum though!
Flickr understand this already - they forgo compression completely and allow for 1 TB of storage for free.
dmsayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:19 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or if you become a Google Guide with the Google Maps app, you get more free storage perks if you become a higher level Guide (adding reviews, answer questions about establishmets--like, "Is there handicapped parking here?" Etc.
TonedCalves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not compression. They resize your picture smaller. Jpegs are already compressed, which is why lossless compression like zipping them or raring them doesn't reduce the size at all.
ohpuic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:13:28 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also unlimited for uncompressed photos if you have a nexus device.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:00 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol Google isn't on your side
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:53:53 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only downside imo is, that Google Drives also takes that space for your emails :/
yomerol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:06:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And sells the info for reports, ads, etc., not that I care that much, but is annoying that Google sails with that GGG flag, but behind the scenes is more evil than IBM and Steve Jobs together.
Gabe_b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:37 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If being an anonymomized data point of the price I have to pay for free ubiquitous storage in perpetuity then I guess that's a cross I'm willing to bare
thehydralisk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:15:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also an upside, don't have to mess about with paying separate Gmail and drive storage.
jaseface05 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:31:30 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it's only 2 bucks a month for like 100 gigs of space!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:12:14 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Like_A_Wet_Noodle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:53 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? Is it $2 for 1TB now?
bobby3eb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no i was wrong
SanityInAnarchy ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:13:55 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not even the worst part: OneDrive used to have an "unlimited" option.
Google Drive still does.
FloppY_ ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:23:52 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The reason those unlimited options are disappearing is because of guys like that one Redditor who uploaded several terabytes to the Dropbox servers just because he could.
He made a thread about how he ruined Dropbox Unlimited for everyone a few months back, but I can't seem to find it now. I think it was an AMA.
Edit: ITT idiots arguing semantics.
Xenomech ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if he exposed that "unlimited" really didn't mean unlimited, then nothing really got ruined for anyone now did it?
FloppY_ ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:45:45 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't, it really was unlimited until they contacted him in order to make him stop and changed their subscriptions.
Bratmon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:20 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he clearly hit some kind of limit.
FloppY_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:46 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe in the same way as getting thrown out of a 24/7 all-you-can-eat buffet, because you just don't leave is hitting the limit.
But it is not like they put up a number for when you aren't able to upload more stuff.
Bratmon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just because the limit was hidden doesn't mean it didn't exist.
2scared ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:02 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Then it's not fucking unlimited. Unlimited means you can either store a byte or beyond petabytes. In other words, there is no limit to the size of things you can upload. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about this.
RocketMan63 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:47:37 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your right, that's why they had to correct it to say something else. There's no such thing as unlimited storage.
erishun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:41:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You're not wrong, you're just an asshole."
l27_0_0_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm so fucking pissed that reddit is siding with microsoft on this one. Their fucking marketing department wrote checks that technical department couldn't
cachecash and it's somehow paid user's fault? What the fuck man.[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:13:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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robot_librarian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:20:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of a highway to 50 people, that bridge to nowhere in Alaska is being funded again .
l27_0_0_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about explicitly stating this in the plan description? I don't want to use a service that has unwritten rules about it's usage. Example: pay $X get 100gb cloud storage - absolutely fine, pay $Y get unlimited* cloud storage! *rules and conditions apply, service may be terminated if we think you are using it unfairly - some bullshit right there.
SanityInAnarchy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:50:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, why? You just said the intent was to backup your PC. Some PCs have 10+ terabytes of storage. Most cheap PCs come with 1-2T on a spinning disk.
In other words:
Only you can't do that, because if you happen to have a large enough amount of space to back up -- or if Microsoft didn't update this to keep up with the times as people get more and more storage -- then you find there really was a limit. Worse, everyone blames you for finding the limit, instead of Microsoft for dishonestly calling it "unlimited".
In fact, from what you're describing, the limit is apparently "Once you have tens of terabytes." So the much saner thing for them to do would've been to set a limit of, say, 5T. Most people will never approach it, so it's still functionally unlimited, but at least it's explicit now.
Or, they could go the other route: Acknowledge that there will be the occasional outlier, and support them anyway. Backblaze claims unlimited storage, and as far as I know, people really are backing up multiple terabytes to them without complaint. It turns out there aren't all that many people who have that much storage on a single machine, and the amount of positive PR you'd get from covering those people anyway probably outweighs the cost. And if you're afraid of someone just using this as a cheap alternative to AWS for an actual business, you can deal with that by saying this backup is only for personal use, and offering a separate tier of support for businesses.
So the problem isn't that you can't have unlimited, even their basic notion of unlimited that you're hinting at here. The problem is they didn't deliver that, they panicked and immediately limited people when it got bad. That's a shitty bait-and-switch and is at best naive on their part, and they get no sympathy from me for that.
Nobody ever promised unlimited roads. That's the issue.
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SanityInAnarchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like you didn't read my post.
More than 75tb, apparently.
Sounds like they were following the intent perfectly -- using the service and not worrying about space.
That would've actually been more honest than what they did, which was to slowly start enforcing the limit before it was ever announced anywhere.
Gmail did unlimited right, back in the day -- they just set the limit to more storage than people had ever gotten with free email, and then kept increasing it over time so most people never had to delete a single email. That would've been the smart thing to do here, if Microsoft didn't want to provide something unlimited.
SanityInAnarchy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...
...technically...sort of correct? Their technical department evidently couldn't store this guy's data, even temporarily, so I guess they couldn't cache it. Still...
l27_0_0_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoops, my bad.
TheManThatWasntThere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:52 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and it wasn't like someone went and used a whole TB and Microsoft was like "hey wait", iirc someone was using close to, or over 100TB and had gotten the unlimited plan on sale to begin with.
l27_0_0_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:45 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/DataHoarder
Not in this case, but there are people who legitimately want to store hundreds of TB of data for their own purposes.
TheDeadlySinner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:14:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's like piling every last bit of food at a buffet on your plate, then getting angry when they kick you out.
DigitalCatcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder how long will it be until Amazon stops their offer ...
FloppY_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the vast majority of users will never need more than the 1TB that most services offer right now and I'm sure the offers will increase along with file-size in the future.
DigitalCatcher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:45 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully the users over at /r/DataHoarder won't ruin that for us.
cuentanueva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We have phones that record 4K video. With that in mind an hour of 4K video on an iPhone could be like 20GB (is actually a little more). So that 1 TB is just 50 hours of 4K video on an iPhone.
But sure, I know most people don't shoot 4K yet (but will since it will be more and more common). With 1080p that's the default for most people, that's 8GB an hour. So 125 hours of 1080p video.
If you take a couple videos on Birthdays, Christmas and other Holidays, or when you are on vacation, you can reach that 1TB without much effort.
I agree that today maybe it's enough but most because people aren't yet used to backing stuff up on the cloud and so on. When it gets more common and most videos end up there, it won't be enough.
As you said, the tiers will probably increase but still that 1TB isn't THAT much space anymore.
FloppY_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is enough if you don't shoot video.
cuentanueva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also enough if you don't use it.
I was saying that people are using more and more storage. Files are getting bigger and people use them more and more. It adds up.
fastpacman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:15:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why or how but I have 115gb google drive storage. I'm using less than half a gig.
LysergicLark ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:48:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do too and I got mine from a cellphone offer. Specifically HTC One M8
anothercookie90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm one of those people that return things they buy... I have like 5 years of 100 GB google drive space left.
Kakkoister ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:51:04 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mega gives you 50GB for free.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:52 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how is kim .com doing by the way ?
Kakkoister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:57 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dunno, I think he was successful in some of his court stuff. A Chinese investor bought up (took over) Mega though, but the service has been great and no compromise on the security features, so, whatevs!
docnotsopc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:07:09 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus you can make more than one Google account. I have a few for more storage. Plus there's dropbox
hirschizer ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:40:26 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have Amazon prime you grt unlimited no compression.
zycamzip ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 21:42:36 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so not free
Impstrong ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 22:18:18 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but a lot of people already pay for prime primarily for the shipping and dont use all of the other extras.
TheAndrewBen ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I literally found out in March that Prime gives you free music to download offline. I assumed it was like Pandora or something.
vivaenmiriana ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:32:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i literally found out just now. thanks!
oddfuture445 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:36 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not bad selection either, also check out the Amazon video. UI is a little weird but still some good shit.
vivaenmiriana ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:40:23 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i use amazon video all the time. i like period dramas and it has a lot more in my opinion than anything else.
BallisticBurrito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:19 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you get a amazon tablet you can download stuff off of video and watch it offline elsewhere. Makes the nightly slog at work much more livable.
Hirotsugu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:39 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can do that on non-Amazon devices too. I was able to download Amazon Prime movies/shows to my Shield and G4.
BallisticBurrito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:11 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I put the amazon video app on my Nexus 9 and couldn't get it to do that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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michaelfarker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:51 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is definitely an interface that hides my favorite features. I feel like there is a lot I could do if I understood it better but I have been poking away at it.
My current source for new things I would like is the New to Prime - Songs Recently Added to Prime list. You have to scroll down a ways to get to it on the New to Prime page. Within the first twenty different musicians I usually find a song I love, and often it is a band I had not heard of.
I also like the way you can see lyrics for a lot of songs by clicking on the bar in the middle of the song's page. You can read through them by holding and dragging or rewind to a specific section by clicking on it.
NeoCoN7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It might be different in other countries but Amazon video is shit in the UK.
On a lot of older shows you'll get the first season or two free then the rest you have to rent/buy despite having a prime account.
anothercookie90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The UI is horrendous keeps me from using the app. I just wanted to pause the video not fastforward rewind or look up who is in the damn show.
m1sta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:28 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Checkout Halt and Catch Fire and Mozart in the Jungle if you haven't already.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:43:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Creeplet7 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:47:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never said it was free.
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shhyguuy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:29:46 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://amazon.com/clouddrive
or http://amazon.com/photos to go directly to your photos
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:36 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. $60/year is probably worth it for me to back up 5TB worth of files. Problem is it will take me forever to upload and/or download that. Guessing they won't allow me to use their snowball appliance for a consumer account?
SirBaronVonDoozle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:04 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I have prime and never knew that thanks!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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hirschizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like Google drive for collaborating and files. But since I have prime I use that for photos.
imagine_amusing_name ยท -52 points ยท Posted at 21:34:04 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The only thing that Amazon compresses is your credit card if you ask for a refund.
edit: woohoo downvoted by an Amazon customer service bot less than 10seconds after posting!
2nd Edit: there's a vote war going on. I keep refreshing my comment and its fluctuating from -60 to -40 then back again etc.
TARE_ME ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 21:54:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the comment just wasn't that funny?
michaelrulaz ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:58:28 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am a real person and I'm downvoting you. Amazon is an amazing service that has always given me refunds even when it's my fault.
TheDedicatedDeist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have never had a refund refused on Amazon, to be honest. Always a very hassle free process. To get other things done, you might need to stay on hold for a long time, but you'll probably get what you want.
AJRiddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:00 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been using Amazon for over a decade now and had prime almost since it came out. Their customer service has gone downhill in the last year.
I took me 3 online chats and 3 phone calls to get a refund for an item I never received. They kept trying to ask me if I checked for the item or asked my neighbors if they received it when their own tracking number showed it was never shipped. When I explained they never shipped it and the tracking number shows this they just kept asking if I had received it in broken English.
I had to ask for a supervisor and the supervisor wouldn't send a replacement, only a refund. It was bizarre.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:14:37 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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rangemaster ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:58:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend had a prime trial and forgot to cancel. She contacted Amazon and they immediately cancelled it and refunded her money. So I don't get the hate.
Pickledsoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
checked my bank account and found out i forgot to cancel my trial, got a refund easy peasy
once i pay off my credit card im gonna go get that membership again
Cory123125 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:36 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bought something. Didnt do what I wanted it to do even though it didnt claim ton do that thing. Returned it. They payed shipping.
vlasvilneous ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 20:34:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.solvusoft.com/en/file-extensions/file-extension-grt/
I_Am_From_Mars_AMA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:38:10 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have google fiber, you also get like a terabyte of storage on drive.
LovableContrarian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm considering Amazon. You can get united storage for 60 bucks a year, or unlimited photo storage (uncompressed unlike Google photos) for like 10 bucks a year.
Seems cheap. I'd rather pay a nominal fee than accept all these compromises.
Anyone tried Amazon?
KILLSBITCHES ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've used it since it was announced that it was free for prime members. 7.7GB and 6900 photos so far and no issues.
Genetic_Heretic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:21 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1.99/month for 100 gigabangers. Great deal.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:30 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a one drive account and now when I try to access it, it no longer exists. Really fucking annoying a not sure what to do.
Giggybyte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and there's tons of promos that increase your storage space (like when you get a new phone).
if that's still not enough, you can make a new account and share a folder with your main account.
trclocke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also 1TB free for 2 years if you're a lv4 local guide in the next week or so. Only takes an hour or so of dicking around to get to level 4.
GroovingPict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:23 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have over 50GB on Dropbox. Free, basic account.
Mojammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:20 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One Drive gave me 115gb for free
DoctorSalad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the mobile app crashes LITERALLY every time you try to access your pictures. I've tried 30+ times and it still won't do it. So pick your poison.
d_smogh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google photos gives you unlimited decent quality photo backup. GGGoogle
glisp42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1 TB if you have Fiber.
MyButtt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:37 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Google Drive gives you 20GB and Google Photos gives you unlimited (downsized to a 13 megapixels which I'm OK with).
misspeelled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:44 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also got 100 more for buying a Chromebook!
asianrage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
....but it's connected to your Gmail account.
MintPaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got a Chromebook last year and though I scored hard with the 100gb drive storage for 2 years. Then I realized that costs less than $48.
emoposer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon gives you unlimited storage for roughly the same price.
Stakoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm I have 19GB just for setting up the 2 factor security thing two years in a row.
tittywagon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:49 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to store or use anything connected with those crooked, spying ass-clowns. I don't care how cheap it is.
Irycias ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:28:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google drive deleted couple of my videos when I tried to move some video from my phone.
PainfulByte ยท 479 points ยท Posted at 19:16:33 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They actually sent an email a while back for you to opt-out of this space shrinkage... So... You snooze, you lose.
I still have my 15GB. Didn't pay nothing.
But I use Amazon drive. 50$ per year and it's unlimited storage for photos and videos.
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Glitch29 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:46:26 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Naw. It cost him nothing, but he still refuse to pay.
HD_ERR0R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:41 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha yea self five
Helios-Apollo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahahahahahaha I'm dead inside
SaltTM ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:10:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never got one, only found out via news outlets and twitter. I don't recall anyone I know got an email regarding it either. That'd be too easy lol, since they didn't want you to opt-out of the shrinkage.
PsychoticRobotPanda ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:39:20 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't get one either, for what it's worth. Never had anything in the junk folder on that account, so there's no way I could have missed it. Feeling pretty lied to at the moment.
TehJohnny ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:10 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit, they sent everyone an email, your spam filter caught it or you deleted it w/o reading it.
hen_vorsh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:28:37 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have never deleted an email. Here is what I have as far as onedrive emails.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the spam mail folder only stores messages for a limited amount of time so that may be why.
SaltTM ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:12:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no reason to delete that email without reading it especially when I have shit stored on their servers lol - I didn't get it and it definitely didn't get caught in my spam filter.
Khiva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah just chiming in to say I got no emails about this either.
dennisisspiderman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I opened up my email and nothing from them. So myself and others didn't get an email.
Thankfully I don't use the email or OneDrive for anything (except logging into the Windows Store) so it's no real loss, but it's pretty crappy on them for not sending out emails to everyone about it.
pixelrage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's $60, not $50.
Soenneker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:35 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I migrated all of my pictures to Amazon Cloud since that's the bulk of my storage. I use ODrive as my desktop sync and Amazon Photo as my auto mobile upload. It's working great. I wrote about it here:
https://blog.soenneker.com/how-ive-solved-my-cloud-storage-dilemma-1537817c9f39#.xvrinqryf
zycamzip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:14 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read something from the CEO lately, which mentioned 15% - 17% of all US households have a prime account. Prime Day (starts July 12) last year was bigger then Black Friday in term of sales figures for them last year - a sale only for Prime members.
darknavi ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 21:50:26 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Prime Day sucked last year. What an overhype.
powerfunk ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 22:25:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pssshh you're just salty you missed out on the great savings on shoelaces and USB cables.
MURDoctrine ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:32:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy gets it. I got some dope ass zip ties.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:56:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dont forget that sweet deal on a whole barrel of lube!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:08:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cheap gummy bears solved my stomach issues
erishun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Prime Day is just Amazon's "clear out the warehouses" firesale.
It's a lot of stuff from third party "Fulfilled By Amazon" that wouldn't sell and were forefeit/abandoned by the sellers. It's also Amazon's stuff that wouldn't sell too!
It's like Woot. It's a bunch of garbage products that nobody wants in relatively small quantities.
powerfunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But with less mildly clever t-shirts.
OnlyMath ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:08:49 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They had some decent deals on SSD's if I remember right.
aoethrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dreaming of half priced echo's for this year....doubt it though
beaglemaster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:20:48 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only because their black friday sales were pretty shit too.
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:22 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After you get it for 30 days you have to wait a whole year before doing the trial again. You don't think people haven't used there trial yet?
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riffdex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:57:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't dispute that it's possible. I dispute the premise that many people are actually bothering to do that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even need a new card. I've used the same card 10+ times and I use a 10-minute mail.
riffdex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if somebody wants to take the time to do that more power to them (although I would imagine Amazon won't let this continue forever).
I wouldn't personally try it but I am more concerned about potential action taken against my Amazon Seller account, if they discover what I am doing. (As all packages ordered on those accounts would be sent to the same mailing address as my Amazon Seller account)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm considering getting a prime membership just because of prime video and music. I don't order from Amazon too often and it doesn't take long to make a new account.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok then don't pay for amazon get 12 emails and 12 cards. There you go free forever. Lets see how that works out
riffdex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No doubt they would cut you off if you kept abusing the system. They can see what address all the accounts are shipping to...
LoonyLog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
12 houses
A_Bumpkin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Open a new P.O. box every month.
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok you got me to laugh, but that would be like ban your address pro tip
anothercookie90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have an account I share with 4 other people, through old grandfathered prime settings you could invite "family members" to share an account.
We each pay $20 and get free shipping for the year but I own the main account so I get all the other freebies too.
douglasr007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but the benefits do come to people who are Amazon cardholders
It's seldom but it's nice.
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get anywhere from same day to 2 day delivery on my prime orders.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:57 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not just pay for Prime?
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pixelrage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:44 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't have cloud storage, cloud storage is entirely separate (Amazon Drive).
ZombieBarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you post the message for us to look for the email? I can't find any such message. My only message about this literally gives me a free one year 365 account with 1TB of 'free' storage. The 'free plan bonus' is going away, and so is the 'camera bonus'. I think the scumbag MS holds true. I have PRIME + a Fire Phone that came with a LOT of bonuses so I'll take a look at their storage. It would be nice to know what the hell happened with those MS emails though...
PainfulByte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, I can't locate it since I most likely deleted it once I opted-out.
Here's my account storage status though
I totally forgot that I was at 30GB of free space.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like other uses have said, no email here.. the only email I got was an offer for Office365 for a year. No offer to keep 15gb.
just_another_spoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://imgur.com/0NORp0n
This is the only email I got about it.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
same, thats the one
timmy12688 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:32 on July 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$50
baummer ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:47:45 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
They are backing out on this though.
EDIT: Source: got this email in May
PainfulByte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the heads up! I did not get that email though. I would not be too surprised if it turns out like you say. It's a shame though. It definitely hinders the consumers confidence in the reliability of their offers.
novaMyst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
baummer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:41 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://imgur.com/a/NtyZR
novaMyst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm darn, thanks though
PainfulByte ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:05:52 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I was not aware of this. I'll check.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:52:56 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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pawnsdeleone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:54:47 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's redundantly backed up and cloud available. Do that with a single drive.
peedit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:14:07 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Be confident in your contents privacy on a cloud. It's also limited to photos and videos. A drive is the better option.
pawnsdeleone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:16:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Until it fails
imagine_amusing_name ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TAKE THAT BACK..there's nothing wrong with a lovely mid-morning/afternoon/evening nap.
robotqueef ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 19:46:10 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they sent me an offer for free office 365 for 1 year that includes 1tb of storage so that the transition from 15gb to 5gb is smooth tho.
WuTangWizard ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:37:08 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Until that year is up
morpheousmarty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean if you're willing to pay this was never an issue.
Grenne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:57 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, same here
DrPepper86 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:35:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I pay a monthly rate of $10-per. With it, I get the entire office suite as well as a terabyte of OneDrive space. The best part is that I can share that subscription with five other people (they each get their own TB as well as their own Office suite). Frankly, for what I'm getting, I'm happy to pay the $10/month.
ohwowlol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you use office for 5 years, you've paid $600 for it. Not exactly what I'd call a good deal.
TheDeadlySinner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:37 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, you're ignoring the 6 TB of storage they get for those five years. Which is a better deal than any other cloud storage that I can think of.
manskies ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:02:02 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't it initially 15GB then it went down to 5GB, but it stayed at 15GB if you signed up for something saying you wanted to keep your 15GB?
TehJohnny ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:27:23 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. And they offered additional space for other reasons I can't remember, I have 30 GB total.
ctoan8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:36 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 130 GB, of which 100 GB is from purchasing a Samsung Galaxy, so previously I had 30 GB and I can't remember the reasons either. They didn't cut the storage to 5 GB, I'm not aware of this cut until now. What I find ironic is that I bought a Lumia phone, and they upgraded my storage to 1TB, but then they cut the storage even to Lumia purchases, and now by buying a Galaxy phone, I got more storage than my previous purchase of the Lumia.
cheez_au ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
140GB free here. Such scumbags
proudcanadianeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It feels good being grandfathered in, I have 10.1TB total in mine.
TehJohnny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeez lol
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 23:56:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Until they cut yours, too.
TheVexedGerman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:03:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Way back in the days of SkyDrive you actually got 25 Gigs by signing up. Eventually they reduced that to 7 for new accounts and ones that didn't opt out. Some time later they increased the base to 15 with a 15 gig bonus for the camera roll.
While I am happy with my now 40 Gigs of free storage (25+15) I'd be a lot happier with the service if I didn't have to constantly check that Microsoft doesn't cut my storage.
From what I understand OneDrive is currently at its worst offering of all time, which is odd because I would have expected their offer to either grow or stay the same to continue to beat out the competition like Google or Dropbox.
crazyl999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly it seems like a push for them to get more people on Office 365 since that includes 1TB of space. Like others have already posted I opted in for the one year free Office 365 that was emailed out and will likely cancel before it renews and see what the market is like then.
anothercookie90 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:44:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They cut it because people on unlimited storage were "abusing" it, and the rest of us limited users got fucked as a result.
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BlastingGlastonbury ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 23:17:17 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what irks me. People bitch and moan about things like this but it's ridiculously simple to read what they send you and prevent this.
joshuams ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:56:22 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True but to be fair, I could see myself sending emails from Microsoft to my spam folder. If a company only emailed me when it was something important fine, but that's not the world we live in.
TheSlimyDog ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:06:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In that case you shouldn't feel entitled to what they're giving you.
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Rpbns4ever ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah we accept it, it sucks he's complaining.
MrMadcap ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 01:25:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not? Companies like Microsoft spam us all the time. The overwhelming expectation should be that they would always end up in the spam folder.
Dan_Of_Time ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make a Microsoft folder and check it every other day. Skim trough to find anything important.
b6d27f0x3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:00:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's just underwear....
Papshmire ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:14:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why it's important to listen to those IRS phone calls. It's so simple. People who ignore them end up going to jail by not paying their taxes.
gologologolo ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:41:10 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also kind of ridiculous to expect everyone to click the button in their email. Like what good does that even do? Oh, it does give Microsoft an excuse like you posted to try to pull this off.
Z0idberg_MD ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would rather not read 10 years worth of shit emails just on the off chance a single email has something I might want to read.
BlastingGlastonbury ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:52 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to read through each email. They have subject lines that are clear as to what info it contains. This particular email's(the many they sent) was "Important Changes to your One Drive account"
If your One Drive storage was of importance to you, that should have been enough information to push you to give it at least a cursory glance.
SanJoseSharts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:32:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, just like "EXCEEDING DISK QUOTA" emails and 6 months later you get users "Whaaaauhh I dont actually check my email! You cant charge me!!"
FloppY_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a few friends with a 3000 email backlog on their accounts, I don't know how they deal with it, but they do.
fakeyouverymuch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:07:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not so fun fact: I've read my email, and microsoft didn't offer to keep previous level of space. Guess this is geography based decision they made. Not from US or EU.
crunkm0nk3y ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:25:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went through the process to keep my 30 GB, but when I login I have a message at the top that I'm being downgraded to 5GB. I chatted with customer service and they said I would lose the space that I opted to keep. I'm not sure if the rep put any effort into her reply, but like I said, my account tells me I will be dowbgraded.
The_Jerk_Store_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:45:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For a limited time (ie the storage would still expire)...
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:26:39 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like other uses have said, no email here.. the only email I got was an offer for Office365 for a year. No offer to keep 15gb.
XboxUncut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:35 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait till Windows 10 isn't free anymore....
SnOrfys ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:18:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: If MS was perfectly capable of letting anyone who wanted, keep their space, they could have easily left things as they were and honored the implied intent of the original offer. Instead, more negative billing practices and holding people's data hostage.
I don't use OneDrive, so I don't really care, but it's silly to think that everyone should have to constantly monitor their e-mail, just in case some company decides to renege on their offers and start billing you.
SanJoseSharts ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:30:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read the Terms and Conditions then
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:08:33 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They aren't supposed to delete, you just can't upload
Klathmon ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:34:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah they won't delete, they just won't let you upload more until you are under that limit
crazyisthenewnormal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The most recent email says after a certain period of time they will delete.
BJUmholtz ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 21:39:14 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sitting on 130GBs.. you should've replied to the email they sent to save your extra storage space.
butthurtpants ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:56:28 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto. Tfw people blame companies for their own mistakes.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:37:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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BJUmholtz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is your level free?
StillsidePilot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:10 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got office 365 so no.
BJUmholtz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:52 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't remember where I got it all.. I think Windows Live OneCare offered some, there was a freebie offer, and the Windows Phone freebie was 100 GB iirc. I'm in my bathtub pouring free ram sticks on myself right now.
ltdan4096 ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 23:09:34 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is absolutely 100% user error.
ohbarf ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 23:50:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Installing windows 10 was a massive mistake. He shouldn't have done that in the first place.
xblindguardianx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:53:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you are one of those "Winxp 4 lyfe" guys aren't you?
ohbarf ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:44 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. XP was a good OS but I have had good success with 7. Win 10 simply didn't offer enough to get me to switch and as time has gone by I think not switching has proven to be good for what I want out of my PC.
Sure, I could switch to Linux, but it isn't as simple as a lot of raging people try to make it sound. Linux also has shortcomings as far as what I want out of a PC.
I may give Linux a try though. You know, for science and all. I don't see it being an improvement over what I have now though.
_Aj_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:57:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Call me a whiskey with an orange wedge, but im still not trusting enough to put that many gb on a free server somewhere.
Warshire0621 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:34:05 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You actually had an opportunity if you still wanted to keep the 15gb but you missed it. I currently still have the free 15gb free.
Apetao ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:19:34 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it was unlimited till some jerks ruined it for everyone. - storing 75 TB etc. http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/11/03/microsoft-is-killing-unlimited-onedrive-storage-because-some-users-stashed-too-many-movies/#gref
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:06 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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teraflux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but even 200GB would have probably been fine, just not in the range of multiple terabytes.
ohwowlol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:39 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you even 4k bro?
age_of_cage ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 23:51:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it was never unlimited then.
teraflux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was unlimited, now it's not.
age_of_cage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If people were using "too much space" then, by definition it was never unlimited.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 23:54:26 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's a planned excuse for M$. Hype it with unlimited knowing full and well that you WON'T provide that . Let a couple people pull this stunt and use it to SEVERELY neuter the capacity. Wait even longer, then neuter it, again, but make it OK, b/c you have an announcement that says "if you want to keep it" (as if someone's going to actively refuse extra space).
No one is going to read emails from M$ (spam folder automatically for the wise) and I imagine many never logged into their account to see the warning.
This is typical shit head business practices. Hype it, then cut service down, then kill the service and hope some people pay.
Fuck you if you're an apologist. I never used this BS service in my life. Fuck dropbox, too, they're WORSE (liars and thieves).
SanJoseSharts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes these liars and thieves are giving you free space to begin with
FiercelyFuzzy206 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:25:36 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? They had a sign up where you literally click a button saying I want to keep my data and they don't downgrade you to the 5g.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:57 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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FiercelyFuzzy206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it cost them money? Its either remove it for everyone (bad) or give it away to people who pay attention (god).
teraflux ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:15:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're one of those "The customer is always right" people
Jamdawg ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:44:24 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a 16gb flash drive.
emoposer ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:50:48 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The big problem with flash drives is that if you lose it, your data is gone.
Jamdawg ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:53:05 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True but its a quick fix to get them off of one drive without paying.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:59:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alternatively you can purchase a hard drive that has more than 16gb free storage and copy your documents to a folder there. From there you can upload to Google drive or Dropbox
Sneaky_Man ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:42:50 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or put it in the bank
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:05:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine if banks offered to keep your data. Like on a memory stick in ahuge vault with ur name on it.
Charged for like ยฃ1 a yr for 100gb. If they lose it you get ยฃ100,000.
They'd be some expensive vaults. But if they kept them save each vault could make a bank so much money lol.
aegist1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just described a business model for an online data backup service.
I think he meant more like a safety deposit box.
EqualWin ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:07 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or just buy 1tb flash drivers for 2$, that ppl sell in the streets
wagon153 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean the ones that are 4gb that have their firmware edited to make them look like 1tb?
EqualWin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.vincentchow.net/images/fakependrive.jpg
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:25:57 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhhh data doesn't get deleted when the caps drop. You just can't upload more until you take stuff off it.
OP is full of shit.
Brave_Horatius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:19 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check the t and cs. They reserve the right to delete it after a year.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly if you haven't backed up your data in a year you deserve to lose it
johnghanks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:39 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But then you'd have two drive
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:59:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's not saved in 3 different places it's not saved.
The_Eerie_Red_Light ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SnOrfys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two is one and one is none.
ReBurnInator ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:30:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The big problem with third party data storage services is if they decide to shut down or change their service options your data could still be gone.
Redshift_zero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for reminding me to grab my stuff off of box.net. I can't imagine they'll be around too much longer. They have been really quiet lately.
emoposer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:48 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google is not going to permanently shut down within your lifetime. I almost guarantee it.
ReBurnInator ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:16:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google may not shut down, but they have shut down apps and services in the past. There's no guarantee that Google Drive will last a lifetime.
emoposer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the cloud seems to be the future so I'm fairly certain that is one service they won't eliminate.
TheDeadlySinner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:41 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, you actually think Google would shut down Google drive with zero warning and cut everyone off from their data for no reason?
ReBurnInator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did I say that? Because I don't recall saying that.
thekerub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No company will just shut down their servers without warning customers. Especially not large companies like Google, Microsoft or Dropbox. This simply won't happen. If they end their service just download all your data and switch to another provider.
ruiner8850 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:58:46 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get 2 and keep them in different places.
morpheousmarty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:48 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With bittorent sync you could make several copies, and with true crypt you could protect the copies.
TehJohnny ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:26:16 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They announced this change months in advanced and asked you to log on and "claim" your space to keep it so they could do whatever they're doing with their storage solution. If you didn't do that, it is your fault.
damstr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:57:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I logged in today for something and I noticed they now offer office 365 for free for a year with 1TB of storage. Not a fix but some people may find it helpful.
DrPepper86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough, the plan I'm on is sort of the opposite:
$10/month for Office365 plus 1TB of OneDrive space and 60 Skype minutes a month (which, admittedly, I never touch)
Sebleh89 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:51 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still have my 30. For a good like six-eight months they let you opt in to keep your high storage because people were storing illegal movies and such on it. They're not scumbags simply because you either signed up too late, or missed the several emails that helped you.
deadbird17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:18 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just back up on your own 2nd drive and ftp that shit.
KarmaUK ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:24:48 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A good plan, but still useful to have an off site backup in case of fire, burglary or other disaster. Or just that hard drive going pop.
J4CKR4BB1TSL1MS ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:42:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much time do you have to move them elsewhere?
[deleted] ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 19:26:30 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Infinite. They aren't deleting data, just dropping the cap. If youre over the cap you cant upload more until you remove content to drop below it again.
OP is full of shit.
PolarNavigator ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 22:13:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite.
From here
jaab1997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:46 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still a shit load of time...
teraflux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
J4CKR4BB1TSL1MS ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:38:36 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a great policy if true.
BrazenRain ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:25:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP is always full of shit.
buzzbros2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:08 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, not quite.
Glitch29 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:38 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. /u/shdarren is full of shit.
Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
there was also a 6 month period or so to say "No let me keep 15 gb free"
nonstickpotts ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:09:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ive been using onedrive when it first came out and was called skydrive and it was unlimited gigs, but of course some people were taking advantage of that and they started putting caps. They would randomly give away free space since then and i have free 250 gigs for life right now, but i dont even use 1% of that.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also used since Skydrive. Thats why this irks me.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 23:44:19 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because using an unlimited service as if it's unlimited is taking advantage? Yeah no.
Finaltidus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it is when you are obviously abusing the service and uploading hundreds of TB of junk.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In some countries it's illegal to advertise somethings as unlimited when it's not. Take data caps on isps in my part of the world... Calling shit unlimited and then saying "subject to fair use" is an obvious contradiction and is considered false advertising. Side with your corporations definition of "unlimited" it's all good. I switched he'd to something faster and was happy to pay for it so idgaf either way
Finaltidus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can never have something be truly unlimited, a crazy thing is on earth called finite resources. NOTHING can ever be unlimited because we don't have infinite resources to do it...
Choedan_Kal ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 23:46:10 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Man shut up OP.
You were sent multiple messages from MS allowing you to keep your 15gb allowance for free. You neglected them and now you have 5gb.
And now you have the nerve to make this disingenuous meme? This is why MS haters usually fucking suck. They are either misinformed or ignorant.
Khiva ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:47:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never got a single email about this - just one in April saying "lol we're taking away OneDrive" and then another one just recently reminding me that lol they're taking away OneDrive.
The thing that annoys me is that the Pictures folder (which my camera automatically copies into) is linked to OneDrive. I put something in Pictures, it ends up in OneDrive. How can I use the Pictures folder without all this OneDrive drama giving me headaches?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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fakedoctor11 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:49 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will state that my computer is only a few months old and I did not receive and email from Microsoft about the changes to one drive with any option to remain at 15 gb. I received an email a few weeks after I bought the computer that it was shrinking. I am not super upset, but slightly annoyed as the default save on my computer is to onedrive.
FuckTheClippers ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:13:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could just buy a hard drive for the price of a few months and never pay for it again
jaab1997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:16 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then use libre. It's not as good, but for most purposes, it's good enough against Microsoft office.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 12TB NAS, but the convenience of the auto-upload-everything from my photos really helped with some of the videos I take of my kids. I do the backup, but having them everywhere with Onedrive was great. (My NAS is firewalled for obvious reasons)
will9630 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:36:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey OP your End User is showing
NatronOrDie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:01 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bought two 5TB external hard drives at costco and they each came with a 2 year 200GB onedrive code.
DiggingNoMore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:53 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just use my 2TB external drive for backing up my data...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea how; but my one drive account has 130gb.
DevoxNZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity I checked the capacity of my one drive. It's 130GB. I've never paid a cent, nor can I remember signing up to any promotions.
TheElusiveFox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean i get the microsoft hate as much as the next guy but do you read your e-mail?
Bathplug ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:34:08 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just keep my stuff locally and have a backup. Why does everyone these days feel the need to store stuff online.
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I can have the small videos of my kids on hand but not locally stored on my device. They take up tons of space for ~30-60sec vids. Onedrive allowed me to pull them up whenever.
RigasTelRuun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:55 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Redundancy. Back up is no good if your house burns down with the back up inside.
CSMastermind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
One drive deleted a very important file of mine. It was a spreadsheet I worked on a few months. Not only did they delete off their (cloud) system they 'synced' the change to all of my local systems which also deleted it. When I went back to reference it after a few months of not looking at it I found that it was gone. The support emails about stretched 3 weeks and culminating with an engineer from the team basically saying, "We're sorry but you're not getting your file back. It's gone."
On one hand they ruined hundreds of hours of work. On the other hand they gave 1 TB of storage free.
Edit: I do still use Onedrive but I now do weekly manual backups Amazon's Cloudrive which as far as I can tell is the best deal in terms of storage. It's completely unlimited for something like $60 / year.
glassuser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:48 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should have set up file history on at least one computer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:27 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You deleted it
robertxcii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even if they didn't, anyone who had owner permissions could've deleted it.
stella_tigre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:19 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cloud =nope. Unless it's backed up on my own media. Nope nope nope
mayavision ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:55 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My MS office subscription which gives me over 1 TB of memory. Just expired. I just logged into one drive and it says im 200gb over limit. Are they going to delete my ish if I don't renew?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, you'll just have to download it and move elsewhere
bignicky222 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:08:04 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most likely.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:33 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bs
Flux85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:46 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not save that locally on a USB drive? I will never, ever trust cloud services for backing data up. Local copies all the way.
glassuser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:31 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why not both?
LinkRazr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah OP. You fucked up. Not them.
604zx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:53 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I recall correctly, didn't they run like a half-year-long "Preserve your free 15gb by clicking OK" campaign? I am quite certain, because I still have my 15gb, and I kept it by opening the link and clicking one button.
darthcoder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:48 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use owncloud on custom hosting that backs up to an internal server.
None of this, "Oh but we changed our minds and free isn't free anymore" bullshit.
Kapps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:58 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed, except with Seafile to an off-site server. I don't care if something happens to the server, the very nature of these syncing services is that the content is in multiple locations. If one goes down, you can just upload it to a new server unless somehow all your computers and the server go down at the same time.
I use Seafile over owncloud though because owncloud was slow and buggy for me. It feels like it actually polls for changes rather than just automatically uploading any changes or something.
villan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:49 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this with online.net and it costs about 6 euro a month for 500gb. Started out with Owncloud, but now just use BT Sync.
merelyjim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:33 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but who trusts Microsoft in the first place? After all this time...
๐๏ธ redspidr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Convenience really
fpsfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Apple is a bigger scumbag in this regard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:42 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why
fpsfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why. You mean apart from their infuriating tight assed approach to their products? How about getting a $800, 16GB phone, but not able to access the files on PC without their proprietary, crappy softwares. Backup files ? sure, use the iCloud service but wait, its only 5GB free. Pay $0.99/m to get more. KMA I say. I am an Android guy through and through but made the mistake of buying my wife an iphone because she wanted one. Now she's counting days for when her 18 months contract will be over so she could get rid of it.
Apple products, biggest fucking ripoff in the world.
mnl1121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a dumb meme. 1. You could have kept all 15gb if you read your email like others are saying and 2. They don't delete your photos, you just can't upload any more until your under your limit.
BigJ76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:09 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tried Onedrive, didn't really care for it. Not sure why, just didn't strike me. Dropbox is good, been using that for a while. Might even switch to Google Drive just for reasons
cgimusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:05 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a pretty big Dropbox fan. There's not really any reason for me to switch to one drive because I have almost as much free Dropbox space than I would get by paying Microsoft for OneDrive.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:12 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Cole7rain ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:21:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm 28, and I despise gmail, always have. I hate the whole idea of "tagging" email vs. sorting it into separate folders using customized rules (which are a lot more powerful IMO). With Outlook my inbox (which is the very first thing you see when you open your email) is basically only personal emails from friends/family, everything else gets automatically sorted out. Outlook just feels so much more powerful, and makes so much more sense to me.
Oh and fuck conversational sorting, email is probably the worst way to have a conversation, that's what texting or skype is for. One thing I really love about Outlook is that I can see details about what's in any particular email at a glance using category colors, like this. What you're looking at is emails from a paid market analysis service, with different authors sending different kinds of analysis. So from the example you can see that any email from EWT.net written by Avi has a purple icon on it, and any email with a 24 hour chart has a black icon on it.
At the end of the day it's all about preferences though, and people use email for different purposes which could change those preferences.
edit: Ok so filters = rules, labels = folders, and conversation view isn't the work of Satan. I get it now, but there's still a lot of things I prefer about Outlook.
Kakkoister ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:56 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can sort email into different folders and tabs using filter rules in GMail too... I do it for my work email so only client emails are in the main inbox, and anything else goes to other, like account info or promotions and shit like that which is related to software I used for work.
And the conversation type system is good.. what's not to like about it? You're able to instantly see what was said before without switching between tabs and looking for the previous emails. It lets an email flow, it's been a big aid for freelance work.
Cole7rain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:27 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok I feel stupid I guess you can do the same thing, I didn't realize filters = rules & labels = folders. I also just figured out that under labs you can get a preview plane just like Outlook has, which is awesome. I don't know how people survive without a preview pane.
There are still a few other things that bother me about gmail:
The first one is pretty important, the other three are just kind of just me being nitpicky, but still.
See now that's where I can imagine conversation view would be useful, where you're sharing a lot of detailed information about an ongoing project or job. I guess my problem was that I didn't really have a need for it so I didn't have a chance to see how it might be useful.
Kakkoister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:35 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/9VwqUArJzG8?t=1m44s
You can't use Outlook desktop app with your Gmail account? I though it allows email addresses from other servers?
3/4. Why would how the hidden area look matter? It should have no affect on your actual usage of the app.
Cole7rain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The color category function in outlook is completely different (see my example in my original post).
Like I said when I sort things I want them out of my inbox, so I would use the skip inbox function on every filter. That's just color coding the equivalent of a folder, which is redundant if you're using the skip inbox function on your filters anyway.
You can but gmail labels don't play nice with outlook, it's messy because labels and folders are not exact equivalents.
Also why would I use gmail.com instead of outlook.com, if I'm using the outlook desktop client anyway.
It seems to me the whole point of a hidden area is to hide labels you don't look at very often, but still use (otherwise why not just delete them?). So it's cluttered with all sorts of labels that you actually never use. A really nitpicky point admittedly, but even little annoyances can add up.
Kakkoister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, for that make a Label called something like "Meh" or whatever you want, and then you make your not often looked at labels as sub-labels of that. Hiding is so you don't even see them, basically like deleting, but non-destructive.
glowinghamster45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:55 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, it sort of is. The back end of outlook.com email is an Exchange server, the tech for which is owned by Microsoft. Every other webmail is IMAP.
The average user wouldn't notice the difference, but there's a reason why companies with custom domains typically use Exchange for their internal email.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:32 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Labels in Gmail are folders (actually show up as folders in Outlook 365) and with rules you can just do things like "IF attachments > 10MB THEN Skip Inbox and Label Big Files"
This is a super simple rule and is exactly the same as the age old Outlook rule "IF from Sender/Words in message THEN Move to Folder"
So basically the thing you hate about Gmail is exactly the same as the function you like in Outlook.
Killed_by_forklift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:28 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which version is that?
fx32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Outlook was a mailclient, and has transformed/merged into a webservice -- both indeed quite powerful, out of necessity to get a grip on the chaos of inbound crap when you need to manage mail professionally.
Gmail has always been webmail, with a slightly different intention, aimed at providing a simple personal solution. It has a decent spamfilter, labels are less organized but it works pretty well paired with the good search algorithm Google has. I personally actually prefer Inbox (from Google) over the default Gmail interface, as it kinda forces me to keep on top of things, quickly swiping/snoozing/answering mails on my phone.
In the end though, I kind of despise email as a concept. It takes up too much attention, it's an endless unwanted queue, and the protocol is old and outdated. I get that mail is a necessary evil in many cases, but I'm happy that many companies are shifting towards "IRC 2.0" chat solutions like Slack/Hipchat/Rocketchat.
dolphins_unleashed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should try inbox. It's Google's alternate gmail interface and it's pretty much totally different.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:50:24 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Daepilin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:16:48 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More often than not it's company policy...
A lot of companies run exchange servers and they really work best with outlook, esp. if you also include meeting organization and calendars.
Nothing most personal users use but at least at my employer outlook is the standard (together with lync) and used each and every day and you don't get a choice to use something else.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:06:35 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Daepilin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I must be old :(
Granted I use more than 1 account personally and none of them is from gmail so there is that I suppose
DrewChrist87 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:00:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I use Box and Dropbox.
Edit: what's wrong with Box and Dropbox?
https://www2.box.com/pricing/personal
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:10:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:25:27 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MS has supported 2FA for a year now
MidEastBeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have over 1 TB of space, probably grandfathered in or some bullshit. I'm only up to 56 GB used currently and I use it fairly actively too. My pictures automatically upload into the drive when I connect to my home WiFi.
Hell if I know what I'd store in it to fill it up to capacity though...
schmak01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:38 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess this is if you don't have other services? I have 1.5 TB with Office365 and W10M.
prestonbrownlow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
backing up your pictures is to create a copy and store it somewhere else. if anything was deleted it would be a copy, a copy that onedrive owns.
Odesit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:56 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I now realized that when they gave 100 GB for free if you used dropbox, was only for a year :(
GroovingPict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:14 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dropbox, 40gb. Free. (At least I got that when I bought my last phone a couple years ago, might have been part of a campaign... but surely they still have similar campaigns... and I already had Dropbox btw, so this was not a "new registers only" type of thing).
Actually going to look now, I currently have 52.25GB total space. And thats on the free, basic account. Which is pretty good if you ask me.
theflintseeker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dropbox reduced my space from 25gb to 4 after my "promotional period" ended.
GroovingPict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:20 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Well this wasnt that type of "promotional" deal I guess. It was preinstalled when I bought my Galaxy S5 which is a couple years ago now if not more. And it was just something like "log in and start using Dropbox and we'll give you 40gb extra space for free" (though thinking about it maybe it was 50, cause I dont see how else I would have gotten 52.25 total). And there was no time limit or anything like that, cause that would surely have lapsed by now. And since I was already using Dropbox anyway and had intended to install and use it on the phone regardless, for me that was just free extra storage without needing to do anything for it, which was sweet because before that I think I had just 2GB.
StillsidePilot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:01 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Last I checked I had less than 10GB total.
GroovingPict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:40 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think it was some sort of campaign when I bought my Galaxy S5, which was a couple of years ago now. It had the Dropbox app preinstalled and if I logged in I got 40gb extra space for free. Or maybe it was even a bit more than that seeing as how I now have 52.25 total and Im not sure how I would have gotten those extra 12.25 then.
theflintseeker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:46 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dropbox did the same thing with education accounts. You got a ton of space by being at a university, then they took it away.
IsoscelesDex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:32 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a separate issue that appears to happen to a certain % of folks: my onedrive "sync" decided to delete ALL my local files, which it then started to update with the cloud.
I managed to save most things, and I still use OneDrive cloud since I pay for it. But absolutely went back to manual sync.
maliciousa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:24 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't delete anything for 15 months. And, you were sent emails for months on this.
I run my own cloud service for my family now, 4 TB of storage is awesome.
Probatus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
4TB that's adorable.
maliciousa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:10 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just what I have now. Expandable to 24.
Reymarcelo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is mega still giving 50gb for joining?
MaxSan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/maidsafe
milkandcoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:46 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 40gb free no idea how but I do
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:59 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's worse is they gave me an extra 15Gb for buying an Xbox One....apparently it goes away as well.
PerAkerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:58 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still have 10.1 TB in my Onedrive (the 10 I got for my Office-subscription and .1 from my Samsung tablet).
I was under the impression that the limit would be lowered to 1 TB when they changed the limits but, as I said, mine is still 10.1 TB, which is enough for me at least...
Mayimbe007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:15 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Corporate customers are now alloted 5TB/user for OD4B.
aebelsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just use Drive it gives u 115 gb
Glockenspielintern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use mega https://mega.nz/
50gb free & secure
Shraker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buy an external and never deal with these fuckers again. Offline is the best line
lllkiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you couldnt take the 3 seconds to proofread your already shit meme you fucking monkey
tomanonimos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're equally a scumbag for not following simple instructions and blaming Microsoft for it.
NCC987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I don't use the cloud, I keep several external drives. 1 terabyte is going for like 50 bucks these days.
TogaLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get one terabyte and I get to install the full MS office suite on 5 computers for 10 bucks a month. I also always get the latest version, so when office 2019 or whatever comes out I get all 5 of those updated at no extra cost.
Damn Microsoft and their unreasonableness. Stupid cloud providers and their expectation that people pay for service.
Shraker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking thank you, buy external and be much happier with your life
kernunnos77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just buy a 128GB thumb drive (~$20). Don't trust your backups to the internet, no matter how reputable the company may be / seem, nor how non-incriminating the data is / seems.
segregatethelazyeyed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here you go cheap ass
jjm239 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just like Microsoft too, to be absolutely unable to write. Oh wait, no, you're just stupid.
intrepidone66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:21 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you even consider dealing with online drives at all?
Necrodox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not MS's fault you can't confirm your 15 gigs, asshole.
158mmHE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:39:51 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really have no right to complain when you're getting it for free. Beggars can't be choosers, and all that.
askjacob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:28:09 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Offer a service, then deliver it. Bait and switch still needs to apply here.
158mmHE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:04 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did deliver, I used it. They didn't promise to offer it in perpetuity.
tycllns ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:53:45 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean if they say one thing to get people to sign up then do another, it's kind of their fault for lying.
158mmHE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where did they lie? They didn't promise it to be available in perpetuity as far as I'm aware.
roy20050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:43 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dropbox does the same shits its just to give a taste of premium.
Netprincess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:25 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never let anyone control your shit.
androidlegionary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:41 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have a USB drive or external harddrive that could store 15gbs?
bstyledevi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:52 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna comment on how you just needed to read your email about this, but nevermimnd.
thearss1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:55 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you not know this was going to happen.
mecrosis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHy would you back up your data to someone else's computer? I mean I use google drive for ease of access, but I have my own drive for backup.
Degru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Off-site backups are good to have if your house burns down.
Not that Onedrive or Google Drive are good choices for this. There are many cloud backup providers that have way better options. Unlimited storage, strong encryption, and they also let you send them a hard drive with the initial data if your upload speed is slow.
Sambucca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dropbox did that to me, dropped from 100 to 5gb just like that
anothercookie90 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:46:16 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you were likely on some promotion from a Samsung device.
FastRedPonyCar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:09 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw this on mine. I promptly moved everything over to my google drive and gave them 10 bucks a month for 1.25 TB of storage.
SackOfrito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:10 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does this have so many upvotes. OP was a moron and its his own fault that he lost out on it, not Microsoft's. I mean I know we hate microsoft and all, but upvoting a moron doesn't balance it out.
Avlix ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:50:39 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cough external drive cough
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:45 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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manwelI ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:53:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care to expand for us laymen please?
peedit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:52:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cry about it.
ShredLobster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:33:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're getting the service for free you ungrateful little shit. Have some fucking respect and appreciation.
formerfatboys ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OneDrive also has an unfixed bug for the last year where it randomly deletes certain files for no reason and moves then to the recycle bin.
Beer2Beer1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:15 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a source for this? This seems like a really huge deal.
formerfatboys ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:16:34 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a couple of different forum posts out there where people have been trying to resolve this for over a year.
Here's a video demoing it.
https://youtu.be/G0Nt9WN0IW8
Basically, check your recycling bin (especially if you're syncing your phones pictures) and be ready to be pissed.
Beer2Beer1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! All I found doing a quick (not thorough) search was some complaints to Micro Soft help desk where no one answered any questions of the support personnel responding, so it was unclear if there was actually an issue with OneDrive. I usually just use OneDrive to sync between my devices but this definitely makes sure I won't be using it to back up anything. Thanks!
JadesterZ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:16:27 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mega gives you 50gbs free. No strings.
statist_steve ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:11:31 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like they're trying to be the Zune of cloud storage services.
ImOP_need_nerf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:30:35 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to capitalism.
Kzzinn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:40:05 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait when is Microsoft lowering its limit to 5GB??
ohbarf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:48:33 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Have fun Xbox players! That play anywhere will probably need that space too.However, Microsoft just lowered expectations for play anywhere too, so meh.
Kzzinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:16 on July 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When is the OneDrive limit changing though?
ohbarf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:12 on July 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure. I just read their plan for subscription services. Well, as little as they're willing to say so far.
searchin4somewhere ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:47 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now Im glad I never actually use my one drive
Johnny_CUMLATELY ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It could be worse, you could have to use one drive for business
mekio_san ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:48:46 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You get 2 tb of space with office 365. If you're a student sign up. Tis cheap
askjacob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:59 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the idea behind this is so when you are no longer a student you hopefully have a lot of data hostage and will just go for a paid skydrive option. MS have been working hard with unis to ensure students get lifetime suitable accounts rather than just "student" accounts for a reason...
cs_major ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Name I haven't heard in a while.
askjacob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oops :)
mekio_san ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:10 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Granted o365 is only 5 bucks a month. hell eat one less value meal and you are all good, or I don't know... copy your data to your local docs.
Ketherah ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:43:12 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon prime gives you unlimited photo storage.
stukasteve ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:00:02 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. I get free from yahoo 1000GB. That's 1TB. My sister pays for Go Daddy. She gets one gigabyte.
toekneeg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:02:10 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's probably already said in the comments, but they sent out an email allowing you to click through and opt in to keep your storage. If you didn't do that, you would lose it. so.. check your emails better next time :)
shrubberynights ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:06:05 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still a scumbag thing to do. Surely Microsoft knew there are people who wouldn't read that. It wouldn't be a scumbag thing if they didn't try to charge them to keep it and instead just deleted the extra 10 gigs.
toekneeg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:12:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They aren't trying to charge them and it will be just deleted. It's the user's choice to pay for it or not. If they don't want to, it gets deleted.
shrubberynights ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:15:11 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are trying to charge them for it. That is how money entered the discussion to begin with. OP didn't offer to pay money for it, Microsoft told them they had to pay for it or it would be deleted.
toekneeg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:28:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK, I thought you meant trying as in actively trying to charge the OP for services without their consent. I understand what you are saying now but still, there were emails around a year ago and articles all around the internet I remember seeing about it. OP literally had to be away from the internet and their emails for a year to not know about it.
My theory is OP just wanted to to create a meme for sweet sweet Karma.
shrubberynights ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I can't speak to OP's motives for posting, but I agree that Microsoft is still a scumbag for offering a set amount of storage, then lowering it and trying to charge for 2/3 of what they previously offered free.
toekneeg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:45:43 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd agree, if there was no reason they did this. But to make a valid opinion don't we need to know the other side of the story? A little research and it can easily be found that users backed up numerous PCs and stored entire movie collections and DVR recordings. In some instances, this exceeded 75 TB per user or 14,000 times the average. (http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-downgrades-free-onedrive-storage-5gb-discontinues-unlimited-storage-options)
I'm sure this inflated the cost to run the servers more than expected. So, who was the scumbag in this scenario now?
shrubberynights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Microsoft. They offered a free service and people took them up on it. It's Microsoft's responsibility to put limits on it, not the people they offered the service to. They sent out an email, lowered the amount of storage and then tried to charge for a portion of it. If they had simply deleted the excess after the notification, rather than attempting to charge for it, then I wouldn't think it was scummy. The problem is not that they scaled back, but that they scaled back and tried to charge for something they originally offered free.
The money grab is why Microsoft is still the scumbag.
toekneeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:27 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fine if you see it that way, but it's not how it is. The few that took advantage of the situation are the scumbags and therefore caused the rest of us to suffer the consequences. There were emails sent to the email address of the OneDrive account, on screen notfications if you had an msn email account, notifications online within the OneDrive account, on the OneDrive app, and numourous online articles addressing what you needed to do and the link you needed to visit if you wanted to keep your "existing upgraded online storage for free". There's only so much a company can do without the user eventually accepting responsibility for their own actions. I know, it's an odd thing to accept in today's world. Plus, I realize how satisfying it is to find any reason to blame Microsoft for something.
If a group of people found a way to spam Reddit with 100,000 messages a second, causing them server trouble and possibly monetary hardship due to increased server traffic and upgrades and whatever else, which causes Reddit to limit our near infinite ability to post as much as we want, whenever we want, to something like 10 times a day with a 5 minute interval in between posts, then implements a paid program to post without restrictions, I wouldn't label Reddit as a scumbag. I'd blame the ones who took advantage of the situation as the scumbags. Being the cause of it all. It's not the same type of scenario, but the concept is similar.
Also, they didn't attempt to charge for something they took away. They offered a solution to keep your existing expanded storage if A) you didn't opt in to keep the upgraded expanded storage and B) you actually need extra storage beyond what the new cap would be. I'm pretty sure, anyone that used the free expanded storage, used it enough to see at least one of the many notifications that were given out within the year before they changed the policy.
shrubberynights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:26 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't know why you're making this into an argument. It's an opinion. I'll address your comment, though.
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Yes, it is. Microsoft offered something for free. Then they scaled it back. Then they charged money for something that was previously free (10 of the 15 GB). This part is not opinion. That's how it is. If you disagree with my opinion that this makes Microsoft the scumbag in this situation, that's your opinion.
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I don't disagree with any of this. EDIT: Except that you didn't get to keep it for free, they gave you a year to react to it.
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This is completely immaterial to what I'm saying. Microsoft could have deleted anything above the 5 GB and have been done with it. I'll bold this so it stands out to you, because it is the entire point of my comments and it's my opinion. They didn't have to try and charge people for something that was previously free. That is a scumbag move.
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They offered a solution which they charged for. When it was free to use previously. Your example "A" doesn't bother me, but "B" does. Because it was free. You consider people using Microsoft's free service freely as taking advantage of it. People took them up on what was offered. Suppose you say, "hey man, use this grocery cart for free" If I say, "sure, thanks" and then proceed to fill the cart, I haven't taken advantage of you or the cart. If you try to charge me to use 2/3 of the cart after I've already started using it, that's a scumbag move.
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For the examples you posted of people using 75 TB of space, if something is "unlimited" it cannot be taken advantage of in the sense that you claim it was. You can't use too much because it's unlimited. TBH, the entire unlimited part is really beside the point. That's not even what OP posted about. I'm just discussing it with you because I think that was also a scumbag move. The difference between what you're talking about and what OP is talking about is this:
The unlimited storage that was offered with OneDrive was used as a selling point to get people to subscribe to Office 365. A fact which makes it even more of a scumbag move, IMO. "Unlimited" was reduced to 1 TB of storage, which should really suffice for the needs of most people, but it's not what they were offered to begin with. As such, this is unethical at best. This is known as bait and switch for anyone that subscribed when it was supposed to be free.
OP was talking about the free 15 GB of storage that was reduced to 5 GB of storage. This was not a result of people storing 75 TB because the max they could use already was 15 GB. This was Microsoft scaling back on a service they offered for free. What I didn't realize is that there already were paid storage plans in place prior to scaling back. This makes it a little less scummy to me, now that I know that, but it's still a scumbag move, in my opinion. The concept really isn't that far off from a drug dealer getting you hooked for free.
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Here is a link that outlines the changes that Microsoft made if you want to use it for reference.
toekneeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not really trying to argue, just trying to lay out the facts. I respect your opinion or anyone elses. Sometimes opinions are based upon other peoples reactions, and sometimes they are based upon facts. From my perspective, I've been involved with this specific OneDrive scenario since before they offered the free storage. I currently have 8.88 GB used out out 130 GB of free storage. I remember signing up for the initial free storage, having to sign up with Bing (for an additional 100GB, then awhile later, finding out they were taking it all away. Then reading about how users were backing up tons of stuff and taking advantage so that was the reason it was going away. They then offered an opportunity to keep all that free storage just by opting in. And if a customer didn't do that, a way to still keep the additional storage so they wouldn't just lose all their data they stored if needed.
I understand anyone looking from the outside for the first time, can see this as a scumbag move. Although having a bit more insight into the situation I can realize what was done and why. So, with no disrespect, it feels your opinion is based upon uninformed misconceptions. Which was fueled by the OP's post.
Checking the current top comment, and it reiterates the ability to conserve your free storage. So again, it seems OP's meme was created either in sarcasm, or misinformation. Which is very common. Without an inside perspective or more information, we can only make a speculated opinion, which isn't based on fact. Not trying to change your opinion, but for me, I'd much rather base my opinion on true facts than uninformed speculation.
You see.. if the situation was black and white, this would be correct. It is also misinformed. It is basically saying Microsoft bait and switched everyone for no reason, other than to get you to sub to their service by offering free storage, then arbitrarily taking it away like candy from a baby. But it isn't true. You linked me the blogpost and I linked you an article explaining what happened which caused them to scale back their service.
This is what I would call a scumbag move. Hey buddy you know all those family photos you have? Well ya. it's 10 GB, sorry buddy, we're going to randomly delete half them starting right.. now and you have no option to keep any of it!! Instead there were choices so consumers wouldn't lose all of it. Which wasn't because MS decided to be scumbags and for no reason scale back the service.
shrubberynights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:36 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sigh.
This affects the people with the Office 365 subscription service only. People utilizing the 15 GB of free storage were limited to 15 GB. That's it. Again, not opinion, just fact. They implemented a 1 TB limit for the subscribers and that solved that. There was no reason to downgrade the free service to 5 GB. Furthermore, it's not taking advantage of a situation if you utilize what is offered. It's not. So it was still a scumbag move.
Honestly, you're just trying to make yourself sound more informed. You're not. See, I went online and looked it up. There is no ambiguity with what happened. You have no more knowledge about what happened than what is in either of those links, because there's no more knowledge to be had. So don't get it twisted, because while I'm more than willing to concede you have every right to a different opinion, if you start trying to imply anything other than the facts, I'm going to call you out on it.
We don't need to use a Redditor's comment to determine whether or not you could "conserve your free storage." That is outlined in the link I posted. No, you could not. You had up to 1 year to do whatever you wanted to do with any data that exceeded 5 GB. After that you had to upgrade to a paid service, or lose the data. None of that is opinion, that is fact. Go read it if you disagree.
It is quite literally black and white. It is spelled out in the link I posted. I'll say it again. Microsoft offered a free service. Then they scaled it back. THIS HAPPENED. There's no shade of gray here, that is exactly what happened and they make no bones about it. The blog post is from OneDrive. It is official. It is not misinformed, it is on the site. Click the link. No one said that Microsoft scaled back for "no reason." What I am saying is that Microsoft offered something free. Then they scaled it back. Then they charged money for something that was previously free. The reason that YOU offer for them scaling back HAS NO BEARING on the 15 GB to 5 GB change. That only applies to the Office 365 subscribers that had unlimited storage. A reduction to the unlimited storage to 1 TB (also a scumbag move) was implemented to solve the problem that you describe. Why do I think that was a scumbag move? Because if you don't want people to treat it like it's unlimited storage, don't offer them unlimited storage.
This is not what I'm saying. You're building a straw man. They notified everyone, as you already stated, to which I've already said I agree with (because it's obviously a fact), with plenty of time to remove any data in excess of 5 GB. At the end of my last comment I noted, "What I didn't realize is that there already were paid storage plans in place prior to scaling back." This is the only thing I didn't understand at the beginning of this conversation. That changes things a bit, but I still think it's a scumbag move. That's my opinion. You have a different opinion about that. Fine that's great. We can leave it at that.
Everything in this comment is simply me repeating myself. At this point, unless you have something new to add to the discussion, I'm done. I'm not going to argue facts that either you don't understand or you're twisting. I've posted a link from an official source that VERY CLEARLY outlines what happened.
The only thing left out is what we think about it. I'm secure in what I think and I understand exactly what I read. You can pretend that I don't understand if you want to try to look superior, but anyone with half a brain that does the research will recognize that's what you're doing. I'm not interested in that conversation.
Itsdanjae ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:18:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea idk dude, but they offered to let you keep plenty of free storage a while ago, and I've got 30 GBs for free
Drewcifer236 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:18:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I remember when I started using the OneDrive, it was quite clear that only 5gb would be free and the extra 10gb was a free trial. I don't use it so I never opted to keep the extra space. I just made sure I never exceeded 5gb worth of storage. And I'm even the kind of guy who misses that stuff and is poor at planning for when those types of specials end.
Seems like OP failed on this one. Everyone in the thread has verified that Microsoft was quite clear about the 15gb. Sorry, OP, this one is on you.
dgpoop ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:28:54 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tryna cash in on the microsoft circle jerk eh? fuck off
mMaple_syrup ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:34:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: People think they will still have their 15GB.
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/OneDrive-storage-changes-FAQ-ea9a86b6-d78e-42ac-af54-fefa22ce5324?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US
majoroutage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:27 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not often you see companies downsizing a data storage product like that.
Fuzz-Muffin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:45:57 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what i can read from the comments, you are the Scumbag customer here.
RawrCola ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:46:56 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You had the option to keep it all and more for free and you chose not to and are now complaining? That's just dumb.
indecks77 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:48:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
google drive > *
Superdingo500 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:54:38 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I highly recommend Office 365 #secondhardrive
D1V5H4L ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:08:11 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
anyway how i can get my stuff from onedrive to google drive easily and cost free? I regret choosing hotmail over gmail.
jarediscool1997 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:22:20 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has Microsoft always been this low? I mean i know they have always been kind of shitty (as all large companies are). But it seems like i am seeing Microsoft do shit like this more and more.
dansedemorte ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:26:00 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yep, already trying to monetize all them "free" windows 10 installs.
gazmatic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:27:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not true
egeek84 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:51:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did this to me with Office 365, "Hey sign up for this and we'll give you unlimited for life! We're serious!" 6 months later, I get the email "Ohh yeah about that, sorry some of you guys actually thought we were serious when we said that and used all the data we were advertising so umm yeah we can't offer that anymore, byeeeee!" I ended up cancelling Office 365 cuz that's really the main reason why I signed up for it too.
getdeclue ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sick Microsoft ransomware
ShitFlingingApe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:39 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just use Flickr.
hiro24 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:12 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could always set up your own multi-node mesh network backup system for free with bittorrent sync. Benefits:
milehightechie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:46:03 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if its a backup, hopefully you still have your originals
Patches67 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:01:39 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assumed it was shit from day one.
drome265 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:03:10 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Onedrive was slow and refused to work when I needed it to. Word docs took minutes vs seconds on dropbox. The office integration was great, but not good enough for me to keep using it.
Bummer that this is happening, even if OP did miss the popup or whatever promo.
Katastic_Voyage ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:09:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've got 30 GB for free from Google Drive for being an early adopter.
Fuck yeah. #sorrynotsorry
I was looking around for some extra space because it's full and I was like "Dropbox, they were the first, they've gotta have lots of space, right?" 2 GB. I was like, "WTF? I've got videos from my cellphone that are bigger than that."
I'm going to upgrade to the 100 GB Google Drive one of these days. It's practically free at like $2 a month. That's insanely cheap when you think about how much a 100 GB hard drive used to cost just 10-years ago. Adding the fact that Google Drive is a cloud service with dedicated off-site backups, if it weren't for how shitty our internet service providers are in the USA (Fuck you, Comcast), you could almost do away with any on-site storage and never EVER worry about hard drive crashes taking down your personal and work data.
When I start my business, their 1 TB for $10 / month, 10 TB for $100 / month, would pay for itself in one server collapse.
I'm stressing all of this because over the last three months, I've been doing NOTHING but recovering numerous failed computer systems with incomplete (SQL only), or completely non-existent backups where 99% of all critical business documents, forms, receipts went down with the server. It happens all the time.
Fun fact: A RAID1, mirror, doesn't protect you when both copies are corrupted. Opened up the case, and almost every capacitor near the CPU was blown. So it was blowing who-knows how many corrupted bytes into those poor partitions.
Last week a client lost both master file tables on their partition (read: FUBAR) so as a last resort I had to run PhotoRec which reads every block in RAW mode and tries to find files. It's an amazing tool written by amazing people. But the problem is, the file table contains all the filenames. So even if I save your important invoices, they're going to be in a sea of 10,000's of other PDFs all named "21102.pdf", "21103.pdf", "21104.pdf". So enjoy scrolling through a sea of thumbnails to try and find the document you actually need.
Here's one more everyone misses: If an important document is on a workstation, and that workstation dies? It doesn't mean jack shit if the server is getting backed up. PUT EVERYTHING IMPORTANT on a network drive located on the server, for the love of God. "But I've got backups!" doesn't mean anything if your IT rep is too stupid to capture your important files.
Lastly: OFF-SITE BACKUP. A backup that sits in the same room as the server, or same building, might as well not be a backup. If a fire hits, you're screwed. If a robber hits, you're screwed. If a power surge hits, you may be screwed.
Those are all issues that cloud-backups do really well. And most companies don't really push 1-10 TB of data--at least not data that's actually business critical.
Magnemmike ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:22:51 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had 30 gig, pretty pissed Microsoft has downsized me to 5. I was happily backing up my phone images, and using this service. After receiving my notification, its taken me a while to get over it.
I also understand microsofts claim to people who were abusing the system and backing up Tera bytes of info.
ss0889 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:24:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2 bucks for 100 gb on google drive. you can just set your entire c:\users[your username] folder as your sync drive and keep your downloads or w/e elsewhere.
personally i just have an e:\google drive folder that gets everything saved. dont bother saving music because its by default always backed up to multiple places. google photos backs up everything in e:\photos and movies have no backup apart from buying on blu-ray.
Soenneker ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:26:34 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since I'm getting cut to 5gb as well I looked into other providers. Google Drive definitely is enticing but I dislike how uploaded files count towards your limit. Amazon allows for unlimited photos no matter how they get on there. Unfortunately they don't have a nice desktop sync app. Odrive seems to be the solution though; I wrote about it here:
https://blog.soenneker.com/how-ive-solved-my-cloud-storage-dilemma-1537817c9f39#.xvrinqryf
juancastim135 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:28:30 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I remember the days Skydrive gave me 25GB, thank god never used it! #dropboxfan
NewYorkJewbag ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:34:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
photos.google.com
Unlimited free storage
stukasteve ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:50:44 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big chains get Microsoft for nothing. Fry's can sell a laptop with Windows 10 for 75 dollars. If I want to build my own computer I have to pay 200'for Windows? Like WTF? I hate OSX or whatever apple uses and it seems Microsoft is just trying to copy their OS. I don't want a monthly bill to use their software. I don't want to freaking upgrade every year. Microsoft has basically forced me to use a shitty OS that doesn't even work right. If I could I would build a system that runs on Windows 98. Too bad you can't get drivers for anything for that OS. I just want to turn my computer on and use MY software. Not use half my processing power to serve me bate and switch offers from Microsoft every day. Thanks for the free upgrade to Windows 10 BTW. Now if you could just make it compatible with my video card in my Alienware computer, that would be great!
Redbullsnation ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:07:46 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got 100 gigs from Dropbox for free because I downloaded and uploaded shit using their app
aliensxist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:32:23 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all about the cash-cow with microsoft. And Bill Gates has more money than he or his offspring could ever think to spend! Guess that's how you run a successful company though...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:08:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what they will do with Windows 10 later on. Hey your OS is free! Oh you want to change (insert commonly changed thing here)? Well that'll be tree fiddy please.
MNTwins420 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:00:54 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This will get buried, but personal cloud storage is also a great option. I have a WD MyCloud. It plugs into my router, and I have cloud storage that I can access from anywhere.
A_Pointy_Rock ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:10:42 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to break it to you, but WD is lying to you. That's not what "the cloud" is.
MNTwins420 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:18 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a personal cloud. It's my data stored on my device that I can access from anywhere that I have internet access.
A_Pointy_Rock ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:16:56 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a networked hard drive - a nas, not the same thing. "The cloud" is a series of servers with integrated redundancies.
MNTwins420 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:19 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either way, it works the same for me. I access files in there the same way I do for Onedrive and Dropbox.
A_Pointy_Rock ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:21:20 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just remember, if it dies, so do the files - that's all. The main difference.
MNTwins420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:09 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do make a different MyCloud that supports multiple swappable hard drives so you can use redundant back ups. But yes, I understand.
cisxuzuul ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:25:26 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never forget. Microsoft will eventually fuck you.
mgoathome ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:02:06 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention how flipping slow onedrive syncs files.
Landanbananaman ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:12 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They got fucked honestly they used to give unlimited but some dick went and uploaded a few hundred terabytes and they stripped it and made it lower and lower. Google and one drive are still the best two but Google is going to win this one
mactroneng ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:50 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scumbag Microsoft already limited unlimited storage, is this any surprise?
lipplog ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:33 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What?! That can't be legal. They won't even let you retrieve your files? How is that different than a hacker holding your files hostage?
sadsfae ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:50 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flickr gives you 1TB of picture/video storage for free, hard to beat that.
itsagoodtime ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:45 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
gmail / google drive still gives you 15gb for free.
contracteryin ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:28 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this was hella annoying. I had 30G from them for free.
Still gotta move all my crap, I clock out early August.
karowhat ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:27 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You spend way too much time looking at life through your camera. Especially if that's all online storage.
Grudgecrown ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:17 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Switched to Google Drive. Never looked back
PillarOfWisdom ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 20:56:03 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the typical type of shut MSFT has always done. They are not faithful to their customers at all.
"I won't be Zune'd again."
joh2141 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:23 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Microsoft sucks. Just ask dunkey.
jokersleuth ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:21:06 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dropbox and Google Drive for life.